1 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,280 Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. 2 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,240 I'm Scott and I'm Jack and we just watched episode of The Real 3 00:00:21,240 --> 00:00:26,040 Housewives of Orange County. Part 1 of the Season 19 reunion. 4 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:29,840 Yes, I realize I should have. Usually I try to say that in my 5 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,680 little intro, but I'm just not on my game today. 6 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:37,400 Woom woom, it's been a long day. It's been it's been a long day. 7 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:42,640 It's a long week. It has been and I'm I'm glad 8 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,960 that it is over. Tomorrow's Friday when you get 9 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:49,800 to enjoy the weekend. By being busy and. 10 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:53,280 Like, hey, we're in high demand. It's nice, nice to have friends 11 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:54,640 that want to be around you. Yes. 12 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,360 So it's a very good thing. Anything on the Bravo con front? 13 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,360 We we got we got our day 2 and day three. 14 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:07,480 So I've come to terms, you know, I've gone through the stages of 15 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:12,760 grief with the Kyle and Eric of it all with the photo OPS, 16 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,800 right? But yeah, we're we'll be fine. 17 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:20,160 We also realize, so we have VIP, we might have mentioned that 18 00:01:20,160 --> 00:01:22,600 we're not bragging. We just, you know, paid stupid 19 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,200 money. So here we are with VIP. 20 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,680 But a lot of people who are general admission really got 21 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,080 screwed with photo OPS and didn't get any. 22 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,480 So I feel bad the other day, like whining about like, oh, I 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,400 didn't get so and so. But and also I have the 24 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,720 opportunity to see people in the VIP lounge, which they don't. 25 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:43,800 So it's the system is not. It's not perfect. 26 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:49,200 It's not perfect, but yes, we have basically our day one is 27 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:55,080 Tamara and Katie back there, We'll see Ariana and Riley, and 28 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:59,360 then day 2, Melissa and Joe, Gorga and Heather and Whitney. 29 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:05,480 And then day three finally got Kyle with Kathy and Portia. 30 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,520 Yeah, not Kyle's daughter. Daughter Portia. 31 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Portia. Portia Williams Yes, I am glad 32 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,840 you could recount all that because if you had just put a 33 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,720 gun to my head and asked me what are our photo OPS, I would have 34 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,680 been like Kyle and Kathy. I would not have. 35 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,480 Been sitting here, Kathy Voice, yeah. 36 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,320 I would have been, I don't know. So yeah, thank you for having a 37 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,720 good memory. Yeah, it's 1/2 of a marriage 38 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,240 needs to have one because I'm going to be getting gradually 39 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:38,560 worse as we get older. Do some exercise, we both keys, 40 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,720 I mean do some sudoku, I don't know so. 41 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,080 You're always trying to get me to exercise. 42 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,720 Just pick my brain or my body. Mind both. 43 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:47,840 Both. I just want, I just want to free 44 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,200 my mind. Well, the rest will follow. 45 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,680 Don't be so shallow. This is the color blind. 46 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,640 Don't be so tough. Trust, I had that. 47 00:02:55,920 --> 00:02:59,160 I know that I know he knows. It all the time, the funky 48 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,640 Divas. So yeah, so yes, we're think 49 00:03:02,640 --> 00:03:06,120 we're going to place, you know, it's we should remember the fun 50 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,760 of it all. And, you know, even if people 51 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:13,160 were in a Bravo con group and a lot of people are saying, you 52 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,800 know, look, you may not have gotten any photo OPS or the ones 53 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,600 you wanted, but there's so many opportunities even beyond the 54 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:20,760 VIP, right? Two people, the bizarre, you 55 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:24,080 know, like just randomly just walking around. 56 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,120 And really for people who aren't going to Bravo Con and feel like 57 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,280 they're missing out, one, you kind of are. 58 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,640 But two, at the end of the day, you're really, it's really, 59 00:03:31,640 --> 00:03:33,520 really not like. Especially when they're playing 60 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,360 the panels on Peacock well. Yeah, but even there, when 61 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,080 you're there, like the one thing that was really cool for me when 62 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,840 we went last time was just like that. 63 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,080 The moment we're like, wow, that's actually them in real 64 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:45,760 life. But then after seeing like your 65 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:49,040 8th or 9th Bravo liberty, you're like, oh, that that's them in 66 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:51,320 real life. They're just people who happen 67 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,840 to this is their job. You know, well, yeah, it's like 68 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,680 when we ran into Angie and it's like, Oh yeah, it's Angie. 69 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,480 She's running across the bizarre floor in her heels, you know? 70 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,200 And she's like, oh, hi guys, so nice. 71 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,040 Got to fight in Angie. So no. 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,160 So it's it's nice, it's nice to see them as regular people. 73 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,760 It kind of does help in one regard when watching the show to 74 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,120 realize like this is reality show. 75 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,200 But at the same time, it does also kind of cement the fact 76 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:21,600 that the show is produced and, you know, that they are just 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:25,240 regular people and that, you know, the production puts them 78 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:28,760 into these extraordinary circumstance and circumstances. 79 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,960 So yeah, it's it's definitely Bravo Con's worth going. 80 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,200 But I I'm trying to remember that like just to stop and 81 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,400 breathe. And in a group chat today, 82 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,400 people were Eric was clearly drunk at the airport, but he was 83 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,360 texting about my tattoo, which says there is time. 84 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,680 And he's like, it's he's like I he's like, I use it all the 85 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,160 time. Like I'd remind people all the 86 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:49,640 time, there is time, don't worry about it. 87 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:50,480 And. They're gonna make a comment 88 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,840 about like he was at the airport and he was delayed or something. 89 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,400 No, but that's another thing we need to worry about with Bravo 90 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,280 Con with their airports reducing their flights. 91 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,720 But I imagine like that's going to fall eventually. 92 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:04,960 You know, the airports need to tell that to the airlines and 93 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:06,960 the airlines need to go ahead and figure out which flights 94 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:09,040 they're cutting. So before we even get on the, 95 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,280 you know, go to the airport, we should know what to. 96 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:13,240 Expect for sure, yeah. We're not going to like walk in 97 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,960 and be like, sorry, no, no, no tickets to Bravo Con. 98 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,200 Yes. So, yeah. 99 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:21,000 And because we're not going to drive, well, we would if we had 100 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,840 too old, but that's it's a long ass drive. 101 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:25,640 And long ass, Yeah, I've done it once. 102 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:27,200 Because we're not taking a new car. 103 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,960 We would take, we would end up taking a new car. 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,840 So. Anyway, but the reunion episode 105 00:05:33,840 --> 00:05:37,000 1. I think it was a good start. 106 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,840 Certain things amused me. Certain things frustrated me. 107 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:44,760 You've come a long way on that already because you did not want 108 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,520 to watch this. Yeah. 109 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:48,440 In the car, you're like, I don't even want to watch this. 110 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,480 It's. Not like clips I'd seen earlier 111 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:52,320 in the week. I was like, I feel like certain 112 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,160 people were not going to take accountability. 113 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,040 Certain people were going to skate by and others would be 114 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,400 blamed for everything, you know? So far it seemed that's true, 115 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,040 that Jen is just going to try and skate by in all of this. 116 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:08,000 I hope in the episode 2 when Matt comes out, he raring to go, 117 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,960 that I hope that something sticks because she can't rely on 118 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,840 this pretended amnesia, as Teddy would say about Erica. 119 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,000 Right. Like you gotta, like you said, 120 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,760 these things own up to it. I didn't call you a Connor as 121 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,280 well. Actually, you did, Yeah. 122 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,080 So everything just seems to be like, I don't remember. 123 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:28,000 I don't remember, you know, it's just like bringing me. 124 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,440 Like. Yeah, girl, who else she was to 125 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,240 bring into it? There was, I feel like there's a 126 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:37,280 meeting to like, for sure, of course, among certain people, 127 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:39,920 certain factions, because they were like really prepared to 128 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,920 defend one another. Well, OK, I know we're jumping 129 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,600 ahead, but when Gretchen comes out on stage finally, the amount 130 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,200 of ass kissing that they were. God, you're so. 131 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,440 You're so beautiful. Oh my, I can't believe it. 132 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:57,120 Elsa, you could be a model. Yeah, I was just like it. 133 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:59,000 Was a drag race, but. Oh, was it? 134 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,800 You look like Linda Vandalist. Oh, right. 135 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:03,960 Yeah, it was just a little too like. 136 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,600 Like like I love how you dress Heather Dubrow. 137 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,240 You do not like how this tacky chick dress. 138 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,400 You would never choose these things like. 139 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,160 But I mean, stop it. She has this point of view and 140 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,760 da da da da. I'm like, oh, whatever. 141 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,320 Like I love it for you, right? Yeah, love this tacky shit for 142 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:25,160 you. I mean, I did like the least in 143 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,920 regard to the way Gretchen dresses Emily, which is like, I 144 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,520 find it entertaining. It's like, not the best 145 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,640 compliment, but at least she's being real about. 146 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,280 It I'm entertained by this, Yeah. 147 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:35,920 House on the Prairie look you got going on. 148 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,600 I'm entertained by this whole costume thing that you're doing 149 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,520 so. Just like I'm entertained about 150 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,960 Slade being on the board for the Liberace Foundation. 151 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:50,200 Yeah, what's the absolute? She at least explained how it 152 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:55,400 worked and Andy was like, okay. I think see some receipts about 153 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,960 that. Yeah, that was, but also it's so 154 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,720 random. How can you lie about that? 155 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,960 Right, so backing up, I did enjoy the way that Andy said 156 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,760 hello to all the ladies was starting with the outside of the 157 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,080 couch with Shannon. At the end of the cow. 158 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,960 Right. And then and then moved over 159 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:17,960 ignoring Katie and went to Heather and then moved over to 160 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,560 who is next. Emily. 161 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,280 Yeah, Emily and then over to Gina and then finally, and then 162 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,160 I think before Jen, it was back to Katie. 163 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,080 I was like, that's kind of shady, like just go with the 164 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:31,560 ends. But I guess it makes some. 165 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,400 Sort of symmetry. And it's never like, you know, 166 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:36,440 like boom boom, boom. It's like, no, it was so so it. 167 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,320 Was just, it was just it was noticeable that like, OK, I'm 168 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,159 just to ignore Katie even though she's on the other end of that 169 00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:44,840 couch, but they got her. To feel very, I don't know if it 170 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,040 was a put on, I would hope not. He seemed to feel very warmly 171 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:52,480 towards Katie. And, you know, when at the end 172 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:55,280 of her segment when he said, you know, is there a way? 173 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,760 Is there a path forward? And she said, I hope so. 174 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,560 And he's like, I hope so too because I think he realizes 1. 175 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:04,760 And also he pointed out the audience supported her very 176 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,600 much. So at the lie detector test for 177 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:08,920 him to point that out, he says something. 178 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,960 Yeah, I agree. So I understand that fans have a 179 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,960 very strong point of view on. Her I'm I so the Katie of it 180 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:19,760 all, I dressed the same way. Like he he even went through and 181 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,000 so far or they some went through and was saying like she said a 182 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,560 lot in her confessionals, but she never really said things to 183 00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:28,200 the women. And it's like, I do wish that 184 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,560 she would have been more. And even Katie was like, yeah, I 185 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:32,160 wish I had been a little more vocal, too. 186 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,880 But like, even in that moment, and I'm forgetting my point 187 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:37,920 right now. He, you know, he seems to be 188 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:39,440 giving her all the opportunities in the world, though. 189 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,280 Is there any way forward? She should have been like, don't 190 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:44,440 ask me. Ask these crazy ladies. 191 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:45,680 Right. I would have kept filming. 192 00:09:45,680 --> 00:09:49,600 Yeah, like it wasn't my choice. They pushed me out and so I 193 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,040 didn't have anywhere to go. Yeah, literally, they told me. 194 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,760 They told her that she could not go to Amsterdam. 195 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,520 Yeah, you know, she shouldn't, could not go here and not go 196 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,200 there. That would have been the time 197 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,560 for her to be like, I would love to have been filming, but these 198 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:03,840 heifers. And with Yes and when Tamra did 199 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,640 film with her, Emily like lost her mind. 200 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,800 Like how dare you betray me? I bet she's pissed about that. 201 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:11,400 With Tamara, I bet that's going to come out. 202 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,840 I'm sure it will. The thing is, you know, yes, 203 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,600 it's about them moving forward with her. 204 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,080 She is willing. She was willing to come and 205 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:22,400 like, you know, be thrown. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm do. 206 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:25,200 Right under that bus numerous. Times there's a dance on the hot 207 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,960 coals. But like, I don't think she was 208 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,200 running away. Could she have handled things 209 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,560 differently? For sure. 210 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,040 And she's. Not a rookie mistakes for first 211 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,240 and second season. And I think she's, you know, 212 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,960 apologized for it. I don't think she was malicious 213 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,560 in it. I don't understand Emily's point 214 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:44,520 of view of like, have the ball say it to my face. 215 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,240 I mean, what are you trying to say? 216 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,240 I mean, she's trying to say that she exactly what Emily did say 217 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,920 is that she felt that Katie was using all these bloggers, for 218 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,480 lack of better term, to fight her battles, which I don't think 219 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:03,680 that's what was happening. I mean, unless, unless Katie 220 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:06,400 really thought she was going to be slick about it and be like, 221 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,720 you know, I'm just putting this out there and then we can talk 222 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:10,480 about it. And I then I don't get the blood 223 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,760 on my hands, which could be. I think like, let's go back. 224 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:16,360 I think Katie, she messed up with the whole Heather thing and 225 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,680 like, hang your hat on that and the paparazzi stuff. 226 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,200 And from then on, people weren't trusting of her. 227 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,160 And then so she was like, well, these bloggers, they want to be 228 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,080 my friend. They want to talk to me. 229 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,480 They care about my point of view. 230 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:31,000 And then she you know, or like, I'm just being gossipy about the 231 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:34,840 whole Emily Heather babysitting debacle. 232 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,480 So, you know, I'm just going to go with that. 233 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:42,840 I don't think it was I want to get at Emily for because trust 234 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:46,440 she had reasons to get at Emily after that reunion thing, which 235 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:50,080 Emily, yes, apologized for last year's reunion. 236 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,520 But really it was like, but I was trying to prove this. 237 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,440 It doesn't matter what you were trying to prove. 238 00:11:54,680 --> 00:11:56,520 You were focusing on the fact that this woman was in a 239 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,600 homeless shelter because that's the only place she had to go to 240 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,160 and that she lost physical and legal custody of her kids, which 241 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:05,480 is a very embarrassing, horrible time in her life to prove a 242 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,560 point. What? 243 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:10,280 There's no point worth that. If we're saying kids are off 244 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,440 limits, don't talk about my kids. 245 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,200 Don't talk about her kids being away from their mother. 246 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,720 Yeah, and she's trying, Emily was trying to make the 247 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,120 differentiation that like, you know your kids, I wasn't know 248 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,840 what your kids are talking about you and like your circumstances. 249 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:26,480 It's like, yeah, but that is directly wrapped in and what 250 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,520 happened to her kids. Subsex is I'm a bad mother 251 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:31,160 except right happen. And then ultimately see, I think 252 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,320 had if Katie had come with the energy of like, why do I have to 253 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:37,760 prove myself to you? Like with so many things, I 254 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,120 think that would have been. Right. 255 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,440 It's the final line between like taking accountability and 256 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,600 apologizing, but also being I'm not a doormat. 257 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:46,840 I'm not going to sit here and let you like. 258 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,800 And Emily so fucking condescending, like just so 259 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,640 condescending with like, well, Katie, if you had done this. 260 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,320 Well, Emily, if you had done that, yeah, yeah, like, it's. 261 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:01,160 And for you to be surprised that people would think that you 262 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,240 rigged the test. Look at your behavior, right? 263 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Look at your choices. Of course. 264 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,080 Look at how you were cackling with Gina about like we're going 265 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,560 to get her like you wanted to out this girl. 266 00:13:12,560 --> 00:13:16,040 You do not like this girl for whatever reason, and it's bad 267 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,560 optics. And yes, she might have lied 268 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,280 about things. Yes, she might have been shady 269 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:24,920 talking to bloggers, but you are being a straight up asshole and 270 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,800 the way you handled and reacted to her shows a lot about you and 271 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,560 your character Emily and like just the meaningless woman and 272 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,480 making her feel like shit. And the audience isn't buying it 273 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:37,200 and they're turning on you, right? 274 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:40,400 So realize that and take accountability for that and look 275 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,200 at your action and yourself in the mirror. 276 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,920 And to think that we reached out to Emily's people to try to get 277 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,800 her on this nest. My how quickly things change. 278 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,760 Invitation rescinded. No, we'll still have any 279 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:55,560 housewife on here except Teresa. I will talk to Teresa. 280 00:13:55,960 --> 00:13:58,880 I would, I would talk. To we have to have a moment, if 281 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:02,840 it happens, to take a picture of Teresa for our friend Tony. 282 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,800 Yes, if we can you. Can't be there. 283 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,000 We will be his surrogates and like, we will be like our friend 284 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,640 Tony loved you gonna get a picture. 285 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:12,840 You might even like maybe FaceTime him. 286 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:17,480 Oh God, maybe. Maybe I would, Emily. 287 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:18,400 Rod up. Sorry. 288 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:19,120 You did. You did. 289 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,720 You need some water? Yeah. 290 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,600 I think Katie's trying. And I think that's the problem 291 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,960 is the first half the season, Katie came in trying to be 292 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,840 humble and trying to not throw herself at the women's mercy, 293 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:35,280 but just to be like, I know I screwed up. 294 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:38,320 And I think that went so far. Only so far. 295 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,840 And I think had she switched gears and been more assertive 296 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,560 and more insistent instead of just saying, like, throwing her 297 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,160 hands up and like, well, I can't convince you guys. 298 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,440 And I think that's kind of what's going on in this first 299 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,640 episode of the reunion is she's just being like, you're right, 300 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,880 you know, But she's not standing up for herself as far as I 301 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,360 think. She went back at Emily when she 302 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,680 like brought Jen, tried to hold her feet to the fire. 303 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:03,960 I think it'll be much more interaction next episode. 304 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,600 I think she'll definitely come and Gretchen be like, no, you 305 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,360 said these things. I think Matt will be there. 306 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,800 That's why Matt's there to say no Slade, I have proof of 307 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,480 everything you know, the Slade has said to me about, you know, 308 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,280 2 on the line, this whole thing. Correction. 309 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:22,320 Hearing her well, we checked our phone records. 310 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,400 It's like. I spent thousands of dollars on 311 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:32,560 the cyber. So I kind of First off, my note, 312 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,080 Shannon needs to her hairline and her makeup needs to be 313 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:38,480 blended better. I used to. 314 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:40,880 Start with the positives. I used to date a girl who didn't 315 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,080 ever blended in her makeup around her chin line. 316 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,560 Like her cheeks and everything. It was awful. 317 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:47,200 It was awful. Let's start with I used to date 318 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:51,120 a girl. But no, so I've always been 319 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,560 really sensitive to it and the fact that like we would always I 320 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:57,120 wouldn't, but a lot of our mutual friends whenever like she 321 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,240 would walk in the room and you she had like a visible line. 322 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:01,920 They would just we'd started doing doing this, rubbing our 323 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,480 cheeks like this. Like look at her chin line. 324 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:10,800 You know you were 422, No 20. One say like 12 Oh. 325 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,480 No, no, no, like. You're dating girls at 22. 326 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,480 I came out when I was 22, so I dated her probably up until I 327 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,760 was maybe 20, maybe a little bit until I was 21. 328 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:23,040 I gotta say, aside from 2 prom dates, everyone I've dated girl. 329 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,440 Well, this is the girl that when we were 20, we weren't yet 330 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,160 legal. We went to Reno and we got a 331 00:16:30,160 --> 00:16:33,040 room with a silver legacy, and she was thinking, all right. 332 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:34,120 Right, right, right, right. We're. 333 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,080 Gonna get lucky. And then we had we had champagne 334 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,280 brought to the room and I had to pretend to be sick so I wouldn't 335 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,240 have to have sex with her. It was fantastic. 336 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:44,440 Stay true to yourselves everyone. 337 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,040 Live your most authentic life. How we missed national coming 338 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,120 out. There it's sometime in October. 339 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,280 So yeah, I think we did. So, Shannon, look. 340 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:56,480 Let's start with the positive. Shannon's very, very beautiful. 341 00:16:57,280 --> 00:16:59,360 Like she like she is. Yeah. 342 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,200 That is not a flattering hairstyle. 343 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,840 It's the hairstyle you wear when you're putting on your makeup to 344 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:05,240 get your hair out of your way. Right. 345 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,280 And then you leave it and you're like, oh, this is a little like 346 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,440 toddler. Yeah. 347 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,359 I think someone said this is like going to Sunday school. 348 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,079 Yeah, it's a little bit. It's just, it's just not. 349 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,720 I don't understand why she would do that and what hair person 350 00:17:18,839 --> 00:17:20,440 thought that was a good idea? Yeah. 351 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,680 And then I also feel like they could have, and I'm trying to 352 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:25,440 walk delicately here. I think they could have done 353 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:29,240 something better about her nose, like the makeup around her nose. 354 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:33,040 It was very shadowy. It just yeah, what she was 355 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:34,800 because she was mainly in profile, right? 356 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:38,440 And knowing that, I think that they could have done something 357 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,120 to soften that. And maybe they did. 358 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:42,880 I mean, maybe this is the best they could have done, but it was 359 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:43,640 like, oh. OK. 360 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,240 And compared to last year, which I didn't love that dress, but it 361 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,280 was a much better dress and the hair was much better and it felt 362 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:54,560 like it was just a better moment than what she's serving here. 363 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:57,480 Right. I mean, if she is making the 364 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:01,520 transition into being daughtery old being like I'm kooky and I 365 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,320 can't do things, you know, And then she's she's succeeding. 366 00:18:04,560 --> 00:18:06,600 It's just she likes that 60 silhouette. 367 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,360 Like someone told her one day that that was good and she just 368 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:10,240 like. Went with it. 369 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,120 Or but quickly going through. Yeah. 370 00:18:13,120 --> 00:18:15,360 Don't love Shannon's look? Oh, but before we get off, 371 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:16,960 Shannon. Oh, I was going to say 372 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:18,200 something. Oh, never mind. 373 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:19,480 I can't remember what it was. Go ahead. 374 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:20,560 Oh, I'm sorry. No, it's fine. 375 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,840 It'll if we have plenty of time. Yes. 376 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,120 So we're going through our looks. 377 00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:29,680 Yes, Don't love Shannon, Emily, the hair is too heavy. 378 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,720 Oh, way too heavy. I like the dress. 379 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,760 I like that gold thing on the dress and the hair is too heavy. 380 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:38,040 Like she's just worn her like her natural hair. 381 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:42,560 Her natural hair, like what she had in all her Yeah, in the Wife 382 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,000 Swap, her hair was perfect. Yes, or even like her 383 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,520 confessional hair, the extensions that don't look like 384 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,040 extensions, right? Understand what? 385 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,520 She's it's just made it look like too Jessica Rabbity, like 386 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:51,880 it was like too. Pageanty. 387 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:55,200 Yeah, like it like her head and with the hair especially just 388 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,560 fills the entire. Frame. 389 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:00,640 It was like old school, like 1980s Alabama, like pageant 390 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:01,760 queen. Yeah, I can say. 391 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,360 She needed like a little tiny crown that you need to put pins 392 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:05,760 in. I think it's unfortunate that 393 00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,120 they never showed any of the really standing up. 394 00:19:08,360 --> 00:19:10,560 Like they were all just sitting down from the beginning. 395 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,880 Like they got up here and there, but like we never really got to 396 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:16,080 see many of them moving. Whereas like, you know, all the 397 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,320 other reunions we've had lately, everyone's like backstage coming 398 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:20,320 to this stage. Right. 399 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:22,080 Oh yeah, Miami. They were like doing jumping 400 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,760 jacks. So not being able to see, only 401 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:26,680 seeing them sitting on the couch was a little bit much. 402 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,840 Because Heather Dubrow and her $49.00 Amazon dress. 403 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,400 For a little plain Jane, that is not a reading dress. 404 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,480 When she started complaining about it being hot, I wanted to 405 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,880 be like, it's probably all that polyester you're wearing, lady 406 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,120 so. Is anyone else hot? 407 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:43,080 No, we're wearing expensive fabrics. 408 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:48,720 Right, We're wearing stuff that breathes so, but. 409 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,520 Think about that next time. Bro, I like the shoes. 410 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,160 She's like, am I the only one with, you know, hot flashes? 411 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,760 Like I guess so. You're gonna get into Beverly 412 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,160 Hills and that dress girl. Yeah, and then Gina, who I 413 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,560 thought looked amazing in the photos we saw, looked rather. 414 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,640 Plain sitting there standing up. I agree, yes, very much so. 415 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,880 Terra Rose is just fine. I like the colour, which is 416 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,720 fine. And then Jen is just safe, 417 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,080 right? Her slips were very shiny. 418 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Very, very. Yeah. 419 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:23,440 You can see your reflection for her lips, very shiny Katie's. 420 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,600 Katie's dress. Freaking smoke show. 421 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,840 Like just gorgeous upon gorgeous. 422 00:20:28,920 --> 00:20:30,760 I can't wait to see her in person because I know I'm going 423 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,240 to be blown away how pretty she is. 424 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:38,560 I was just amazed. Like from head to toe, like it's 425 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:39,200 just amazing. Yeah. 426 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,720 And then when they bring, when they bring out Gretchen and 427 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,720 everyone's like, oh, she's wearing pink. 428 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,440 Oh, she and Tamara are wearing pink. 429 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:47,720 Do you notice that? It's like, yeah, like you said, 430 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,240 there's a color. Theme you know it was also 431 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,280 wearing pink Katie yeah I think he would ignore her Emily, but 432 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,480 Shannon but she exists them. Yeah, I do have to say that 433 00:20:56,480 --> 00:21:00,640 having Heather and Gina wearing similar tones right next to each 434 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:03,240 other makes it a little, like, uninteresting to watch. 435 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,560 We'll also see like the whole red couch until Gretchen gets 436 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,440 out there, right? Why do they not mix up the 437 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,200 colours? Yeah, like we're finally going 438 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,520 for the theme, but we're not positioning people in the right 439 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,600 way, right, To like, really showcase the theme well. 440 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,520 Right. And of course the theme, which 441 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,880 we didn't realize cuz one Andy didn't tell us like he does all 442 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,960 the time. Amsterdam that's we're in. 443 00:21:22,120 --> 00:21:24,000 Amsterdam, yeah. I was like, why is this? 444 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,160 Oh, we're in Amsterdam, Yeah. Yeah. 445 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,080 So maybe that means there's really lots of stuff to cover 446 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,240 that we're not getting this fillard of like notice ladies, 447 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,760 we're in Amsterdam, right, You know, So that'll be good. 448 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,160 Yes. So we're done. 449 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,160 I was talking about Shannon. Shannon I. 450 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,440 I'm wondering if, I mean, I don't, is she giving up? 451 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,920 Is she just like, oh whatever, this is who I am? 452 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,560 She's not giving up. I will say. 453 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:51,720 Everyone's gonna say she's being a mean girl, but I. 454 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,720 I'm. I'm a horrible person. 455 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,480 I'm sorry. I'm living for Tamara. 456 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,840 Just being like, shut up. I was going to say as well also 457 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,120 because it's just, it's so like Shannon doesn't know what to do 458 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:03,720 with it. She's like, what? 459 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,160 You can't talk to me like that? And it's like what? 460 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,440 I am talking to you like that. There's no director saying cut, 461 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,240 I can't talk to her like that and just let it go. 462 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,720 And like Tamara's mocking her, which it's not fun. 463 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,960 She doesn't need to do that. So I'm going to shut up and 464 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,280 being like, you're at the end of the couch, stay there like. 465 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,360 Yeah, it's. So petty and so small, and I 466 00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:29,200 like it. Yeah, people aren't aren't going 467 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,680 to be very nice to Tam. Oh. 468 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,040 No, it's fine. So it's fine. 469 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,120 Came for Queen Shannon. Queen of what's not Sheba? 470 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,040 I mean, Shannon explained. I mean, I thought it was good 471 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,240 and I thought it was a stick where Tamara said, well, you 472 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,760 recorded someone too. And. 473 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,000 Tamara and Shannon's like, we're not going to talk. 474 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:52,760 It's like, first of all, Tamara, someone took some good notes for 475 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,760 her because she was ready back in 20 and 15. 476 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:01,240 He told Bronwyn, Bronwyn of all people, that you had alcoholism 477 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,520 in your family. And Shannon was like, I don't 478 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,680 know what to do with that, but it's. 479 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,160 I wonder if Teddy Walters did some research for her and. 480 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,000 I think it's more to say like just Tamara's assistant. 481 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:16,200 No, probably like. Look to the archives AKA Peacock 482 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,840 or just when I read it and like file or googled what's an 483 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,760 instance When Shannon wrote and the whole thing she recorded 484 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,240 Vicki because she wasn't know she was going to be safe with 485 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,400 her boyfriend. I was like. 486 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,280 Oh, and then I deleted it. I mean, I see that's the sort of 487 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,480 explanation though you need to have where it just like this is 488 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,120 what happened. This is what I'm telling you and 489 00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:37,600 done. And like, I'm not going to 490 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,040 justify it with any more explanation. 491 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,640 Done. Because the whole like it gets 492 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:45,160 so murky with like Katie recording Shannon and and did 493 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,360 Gretchen. Sorry, I did Alexis hearing it's 494 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,000 just so muddy. It's very, very. 495 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,240 Well, and again, it's this bullshit of Jen not 496 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,640 acknowledging that. She has pretend them. 497 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,000 It's so irritating. I don't know you're talking 498 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:01,520 about you're bringing me into this me. 499 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,840 She was like a man, like she clutched her pearls. 500 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,200 And I'm like, you can't afford any. 501 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,720 No, stop. Sorry, I'm horrible. 502 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,200 I'm horrible tonight. Next next week though. 503 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:15,760 Next week, I think we're running Jensen. 504 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,280 You're right, Jens, get some more. 505 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,400 Holding our feet to the fire. Yeah, hopefully. 506 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,920 She's kind of Teflon this season because she was erring on the 507 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,480 side of I'm holding, and rightfully so, sometimes holding 508 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,320 Tamara to the fire and like, no, you said these horrible things, 509 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,640 do better. The thing is about this, and I'm 510 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,640 of course very team Tamra. Yes, you need to do better. 511 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,040 You're acknowledging the problem, but now you need to fix 512 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,440 the problem. So when we talk about therapy, 513 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,080 it's still a process to say that it's still a process. 514 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,800 I'm going to slide back. I'm sorry. 515 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:54,400 I will apologize when I go off the rails, but you just can't be 516 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,560 like I'm, I'm doing it. It's like you gotta make some 517 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:00,160 headway. Well, I mean, that's what Andy 518 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,080 was talking about when it's like, you know. 519 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,240 Proving my point over again. What I wasn't liking about Tamra 520 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,640 in this particular instance is that she kept doing this, well, 521 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,440 like, like, name it. She was like doing. 522 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,040 She was. She was like, well, like, what 523 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,440 did I say? And it's like, First off, I am 524 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:19,920 just driven nuts by people who expect me to have to have 525 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,400 encyclopedic knowledge of your behavior. 526 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,760 Yeah. It's not my job to remember 527 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,520 everything You did. If you did something that pissed 528 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,520 me off, I can tell you a couple things, but it's not up to me to 529 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,200 like, prove to you you've been an ass, right? 530 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,960 And I guess. That was not good. 531 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,240 Yeah, no. It wasn't. 532 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,960 And so that was bothering me that she like what? 533 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,520 And she did it multiple times and it's like she even did it to 534 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,160 Andy and it's like. Like what? 535 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,480 Give me an. Example, it's like, girl, I 536 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,640 could, I could have production do that for you. 537 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,160 You want to wait. Or tape. 538 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:53,840 Yeah, it's like that's what he should have done. 539 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,000 Is like, let's take a break and then we'll come back and then 540 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,560 I'll tell you what it's. In footage. 541 00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,520 So. Cameras best of yeah. 542 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,720 A little bit much. And then even he, you know, was 543 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,520 like, well, you just proved our points. 544 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,480 Like you just slung mud right over there after saying like, 545 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,280 you don't sling old mud, right? You're not. 546 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,880 The thing is, yeah. You can't combat Gretchen 547 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,080 slinging old mud by slinging your own old mud. 548 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:18,080 You have to be like, why are you doing this Gretchen, It was 18 549 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,440 years ago. And leave it at that. 550 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,400 Don't say, don't go tit for tat with her. 551 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:25,040 I was very pleased. When the question was asked, how 552 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,120 does what Gretchen Tamara said about Slade, how did that 553 00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:33,040 prevent from getting a job? And again, that's one of those 554 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,920 frustrating reunion questions that doesn't ever really get 555 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,480 answered. Like Gretchen was just kind of 556 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,640 like shrugged it off. But she's made such a huge deal 557 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,960 about that's Tamara's the reason. 558 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,640 And I'm just like, oh, see, that's the sort of thing I want. 559 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,880 I want them to just release all the footage so I can see them 560 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:58,000 arguing or maybe they get into it so that way we can see what 561 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,120 the real like is. No one in their right mind can 562 00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:04,280 say that Tamara Judge prevented Slade from having a job and when 563 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,760 she made the point. Was it? 564 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,360 It wasn't because he got arrested, which I don't even 565 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,600 recall that 'cause I don't write tabs on Slate smiley, but also 566 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:15,040 same Slate. Smiley. 567 00:27:15,120 --> 00:27:17,000 Like must we guy? Smiley. 568 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,240 It just writes itself. The the the nickname, yeah. 569 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,360 And see there see. Tamara would have been better 570 00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,280 off just by not even bringing that up because it just seems so 571 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,800 petty. And you know, it's I'm starting 572 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,800 to feel like I don't know, 5050 on this Gretchen or Shannon 573 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,760 keeps accusing Gretchen of like plotting all these things to 574 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,960 like coming in hot on the season, which I just firmly 575 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,800 believe Gretchen did come in. Yes, yes, but for sure. 576 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,680 And more and more, it's like it seems Tamara was ready to 577 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,840 address it and was going to do it whether Gretchen did it or 578 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,480 not. But it was reactionary it. 579 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,440 Wasn't, you know, it wasn't at that hot pot meal, It wasn't. 580 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,800 Gretchen sat down. Tamara said. 581 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,480 You right. Right, tried to get my. 582 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,880 Daughter turned against me and da da da da like she it just so 583 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,960 had Gretchen come. In clean, that's what. 584 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,560 Everyone has said about Gretchen, you had the audience, 585 00:28:09,360 --> 00:28:11,960 God knows why the audience support behind you because 586 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,400 people hate Tamara and they wanted to know against her 587 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,200 whatever. And instead of, like, just 588 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,640 standing there and letting Tamara, you know, tie her own 589 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,400 rope. Right you that you came. 590 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,600 Up with all this old shit that no one cares about and you just 591 00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,960 made it seem that you were stuck in the past and you were coming 592 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,040 for her. Yeah. 593 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:34,640 You know when you say things like I. 594 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,400 There's so many things I can say about you, but I've kept my 595 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,400 mouth shut. OK, one, you haven't kept your 596 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,240 mouth shut 2 elaborate, please. Right. 597 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,320 So they both proved their own points about how they, you know, 598 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,440 aren't willing to move forward. But I honestly do think that 599 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,400 they had Gretchen just stuck with what happened to the beach. 600 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:56,800 You know, we're going to move forward. 601 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,920 We're only going to be besties where it's going to like just 602 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:04,560 try to be fine and coexist. But she slid back very easily. 603 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,920 As much as she says like, I didn't have that intention. 604 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,240 Perhaps you didn't, but you had that in your pocket, ready to 605 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,480 throw out the fact that she allegedly slept with that dude 606 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,960 in the studio. And then Slade just was ready to 607 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,960 go too. You both are sitting on ready to 608 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,440 attack Tamara. So you you're you're equally 609 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:25,560 guilty. I like how Gretchen was. 610 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,440 Was like, I didn't mean to do that. 611 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,920 And then Heather was quickly quick to be like, no, no, that 612 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,600 was. And then Tamara was like, the 613 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,680 hell it wasn't. Yeah, the bullshit, but. 614 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,640 See, I would have. I would have. 615 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,560 Again, I think Tamara would have been better off not having 616 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,600 brought up. She did that 12 years ago at 617 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,760 Vicky's or during that one party or whatever. 618 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,920 If she kissed, there's so many things she could have pointed 619 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,640 towards of like, and maybe she didn't analyze it the way that 620 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,240 the rest of us have, but like she could have really pointed 621 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:56,840 towards the fact that you brought this up and then, you 622 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,320 know, Slade was so willing to jump on it with you. 623 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,800 And like it seemed to be, she could have said like, let's 624 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:03,680 watch the. Entire season and see how many 625 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,720 times you bring up things. Let's go to that one 626 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,720 professional when you have a list ready. 627 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,400 Yeah, like no one said, please make a list. 628 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,520 You had that ready, like from Got years ago, right? 629 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,280 Right. All the things that Tamra has 630 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:19,400 done that makes you a better person than her? 631 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:20,600 I don't know. I think a producer does. 632 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,240 That a producer. May have asked her. 633 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,000 Could you make a list? No, they were like. 634 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,520 No, she was sitting on Ready. She enslaved me and sitting on 635 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,960 Ready. And yeah, yeah, I. 636 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,240 It's not a good, not a good. It's not a good luck. 637 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,480 We skipped over Katie and Gina kind of talking about stuff. 638 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,960 I like that, Gina. Realized I'm not going to go 639 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,760 down this road of trying to prove I'm not a racist. 640 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,360 I just need to say if I was problematic, I'm sorry that made 641 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,240 you feel that. Although I think it was funny 642 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,440 when she said I'm sorry I triggered A trauma and she was 643 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:51,560 like, you didn't trigger a trauma. 644 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,840 You're not that important, you know you. 645 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,320 Just I thought it was. Problematic. 646 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,160 There's problematic and there's trauma. 647 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,600 You were just problematic and you made me feel a certain kind 648 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,040 of way. I wish you'd gone into more 649 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,680 detail about the fact that they were just because it was YSL or 650 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,680 whoever. It's the person who's currently 651 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,840 the creative director for that line. 652 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:17,360 It's all connected that she was wearing Asian connected designs, 653 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,000 Right, Right. So, yeah, yeah. 654 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,440 But. Right, but Gina was very quick 655 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,480 to fall on that sword, and it's good for her. 656 00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,760 No, I think so. You would have looked. 657 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,520 Like a problematic white woman. Had you not, although she did 658 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,560 the? Thing that I hate the most, 659 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,480 which is iffing an apology right, it's just been. 660 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840 Like I was, but I don't think she thinks she's wrong. 661 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,880 And I think Emily is saying to her, you weren't wrong. 662 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,480 You weren't. And I like the that even Katie 663 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,360 said I'm not calling you the R word, which I was. 664 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,080 I was like the. R word like the one that we're 665 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,560 not supposed to say no, the other one? 666 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,360 Oh, the other one. Yes, I'm not trying to say. 667 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,080 That and she's like I'm yeah they both were very clear in 668 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,520 their attention so I don't I mean the apology was might have 669 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,080 just been said to be said yeah but at. 670 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,600 Least she said it. And she was smart to do that, 671 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,440 Yeah, but. Again, Tamara was apologizing to 672 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,880 about things. I'm sorry that I said that. 673 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,680 And it doesn't mean a lot of this crap doesn't mean stuff. 674 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,360 It's, well, even the Emily. Was like, I'm sorry if I, you 675 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,120 know, made you feel certain in that way. 676 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:27,080 So I'm looking forward to more of like Tamara versus Emily like 677 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,080 that. Little moment. 678 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,440 In the preview she talks about You're not on my show and. 679 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:33,880 You're on my network, Yeah, or whatever. 680 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,600 Yeah, you are. Because when you weren't with 681 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,720 tanked. And Legally Blonde is on their. 682 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,240 Network, it's under their umbrella. 683 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,160 We look ahead, We look for now I. 684 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,280 Think that'd be very petty? If she kicked her off the 685 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:52,640 network, I mean that. Unnecessary, but I wonder if 686 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,880 that's also why like that was the weak moment too, was when 687 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,680 Tamara started to come for Emily, like tried to make a 688 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,880 thing between Emily in this episode and didn't really 689 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,640 materialize because Tamara couldn't think of exactly what 690 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Emily had said throughout the season. 691 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,600 More so like you were shady and you're. 692 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,600 Confessional. Oh yeah, that's what we're. 693 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:14,080 All supposed to be. But yeah, I mean, we, we noticed 694 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,200 it that Emily was definitely like being buddy buddy with 695 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,840 Gretchen and and Heather and like saying some really, I think 696 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,240 bold things about Tamra and like Tamra not being a good friend, 697 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,040 not beyond the whole. I don't trust her. 698 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,600 There was other things that she said which I thought was 699 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,600 surprising because I thought because of their connection with 700 00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,240 the podcast and I've been pointing it out. 701 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,920 Yeah. That that was strange. 702 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,440 So. It's, it'll be interesting to 703 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:41,320 hear what's come of that. It's also interesting because, 704 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,280 and I don't know, maybe it's because it's part of the season 705 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,760 or whatever, but that's the sort of thing that you'd expect to 706 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,480 have heard on 2TS and we haven't, well, because Tamara 707 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,560 doesn't. Talk about the show, about 708 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,160 anything with OC. That's true. 709 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,680 Yeah. Just to remove any questions 710 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,360 about it. Yeah, I think it will be up to. 711 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,280 Teddy and Erica to speculate what that was about. 712 00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,320 We should. Ask them to speculate. 713 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,679 Yes, I. Would I'd like to know more. 714 00:34:08,679 --> 00:34:12,520 About that, just because it was weird, especially it was weird 715 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:16,320 that Emily was filling in so much on the two TS and then just 716 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,920 did not. So it's like, well, and no, she 717 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,400 doesn't. Fill down for two on two TS and 718 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,199 quite some time. I know, but that's what I mean. 719 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:23,320 Is like they. Well, because, but no. 720 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,080 But she branched. Off like they were, she was very 721 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,679 much in the family, like she and Teddy had that pop culture show 722 00:34:27,679 --> 00:34:30,080 right? That went away and then they 723 00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,080 kept her on with legally brunette. 724 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,560 So she's very much still a part for now of the I'm just saying, 725 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,360 I'm saying. You're saying that things went 726 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:40,760 away. I'm just saying, well, remember, 727 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,760 they went away for a reason, that's all. 728 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:44,040 Oh, no, I don't think so. I. 729 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,400 Mean the pop culture show is kind of wack. 730 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,760 It was. I didn't enjoy it very. 731 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:52,239 Much it works better to have. Teddy and they found the right 732 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,880 mix with Teddy and Erica. They tried with Teddy and Alexia 733 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,280 and they tried with Teddy and Emily. 734 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,360 I think it just worked. Teddy and Eric, because they're 735 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:02,760 actually friends. Yeah. 736 00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,920 So I forgot about Alexia. She always sounded like she's in 737 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,320 the middle of a Oh my gosh tunnel. 738 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,400 On those OC recaps when she was just like, it wasn't good. 739 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:13,800 No, it was not. It was not. 740 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,680 Good. So sorry we really derailed into 741 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,600 two teas in the pod, iHeartRadio and discover prior audition for 742 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,960 iheart. I mean, we'd be so. 743 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:29,840 Lucky, you know, we're the 199th ranked after show podcast in the 744 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,320 in the US Give us a chance I mean. 745 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,040 Come on if. Only we can get our damn theme 746 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,840 song cleared. I mean hope. 747 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,680 I hope we don't wake up if I wake up tomorrow. 748 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,320 I'm going to have a problem with Spotify. 749 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,400 It's been an issue where? You know, even though we bought 750 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:49,800 rights to our theme song that it's been pulled by Spotify for 751 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,720 like rights via leave. Episodes. 752 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:55,040 Yeah it's 4 episodes now and if it happens for 1/5 and I've 753 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,000 already reached out to them and they're like nothing you can do 754 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,600 except keep appealing and I'm like well you expect me to 755 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,600 appeal every episode? It's so ridiculous. 756 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,520 Hello and how? The rights I don't know, I. 757 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:06,880 Did I listened? I know. 758 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,400 I wanted. To know the rest. 759 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,520 So I bought the rights. It was how? 760 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:16,960 Bizarre. So God, yeah, I mean, we might 761 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:20,760 be finding a new podcast host or provider or whatever because 762 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,240 Spotify is driving me nuts because it's also all of these 763 00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:26,720 damn platforms all exist in the in the ether. 764 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,760 Like you can't talk to anyone real. 765 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,040 And even when you talk to someone real, I'm like, there's 766 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,840 99% chance this is an AI chat, told AI. 767 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,520 What do you need? Yeah, I'm like, oh, cannot. 768 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,600 No, it's not. Angie, I am an upstanding. 769 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,400 Oh my God, I got to be I. Am a pillar of the community, 770 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,400 yeah, so got to meet that. Anyway, did we get all the 771 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,160 women? I feel like we missed. 772 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:48,720 Certain things I mean, Heather really didn't have. 773 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:50,720 Anything. Jen didn't have anything. 774 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,800 Jen just sat there. Yeah, they talked about the 775 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,160 kids. Everyone did. 776 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:56,240 Oh, Emily's whole. Thing. 777 00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,160 Oh yeah, that was I didn't quite totally. 778 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,200 I'll stem from strep. Yeah, I looked at it. 779 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,560 But I think it's, I want to say it's funny, but the fact that 780 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,360 there's a syndrome called PANDAS, I looked it up, It's 781 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:15,360 some neurological syndrome that comes about from strep or a 782 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:19,520 pneumococcal infection that is such a dark. 783 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:24,160 Like roads, yeah, that's a go down, but I mean reading. 784 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,960 Through the brief memo moments I did while we're watching the 785 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,280 show. I mean, it does describe 786 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,160 everything. She's describing that like, you 787 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,000 know, he was doing well and suddenly not and then very 788 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,600 sudden, yeah. Yeah, so interesting. 789 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,280 And it's, it's scary for sure, for sure. 790 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,000 But they talked about, they did the packet about everyone's 791 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,760 kids, including Jen Greens. Yeah. 792 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,640 And then that led into. Tamara and Sydney I would not 793 00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:51,720 have. Brought that up because Cindy 794 00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:54,160 doesn't like her to talk about her on her show I would have 795 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,560 said you know what we yes we recently reconnected and it was 796 00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,360 great and not go into details right You know because she's 797 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,320 brought talked about this on the show on on on 2TS and I'm like I 798 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,320 just I would cherish these moments that you're making some 799 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,760 headway and just not discuss it so you continue to make headway 800 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,240 I I kind of want. Brittany's daughter to meet 801 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:19,960 Sydney Brittany. Yeah, and then they can. 802 00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,880 They can come on the show together and then like read 803 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,080 their moms for filth be great. That's like a a. 804 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:30,640 A Bad Girls Trip mother daughter edition That's oh, that'd be 805 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,000 kind of cute. Though except Gia and Teresa 806 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,200 would be on it. No way. 807 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,560 No way around. Yeah, when Kim and. 808 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,720 Ariana. Oh, that'd be cute, yeah. 809 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,520 Be fun. Yeah. 810 00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:42,160 Hey, Bravo. Are you listening? 811 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:46,760 No, they're not listening. That's the problem. 812 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,200 I know, bravo. Why? 813 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:54,880 Not bravo. Can you hear me, BB? 814 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,240 Can you hear me? You're funny. 815 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:01,480 All right, so then I think we've gone through everybody. 816 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:03,600 I feel like I. Always feel like we're 817 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:04,920 forgetting. Something we need to find a 818 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:05,640 better way. Really. 819 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,640 Do you much except? I'm quippy, that's what she 820 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,680 does. I'm in a cheap. 821 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,240 Dress and I'm quippy, you said she was starting to look a 822 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:19,120 little. Witchy not on camera. 823 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:22,960 Well, you did. It was the. 824 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,480 It's the. The hair color, it's the, it's 825 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,320 the angle I think as well it was. 826 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:29,960 A little heavy on the. Yeah, it's the, it's the angle. 827 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:31,800 Because they're shooting her like straight on camera. 828 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,960 It's not like I threw you under the bus. 829 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,440 I just threw you at the bus. God. 830 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,800 But yeah, we we got to find a better way to end our podcast 831 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,560 because I feel like I'm like, not you. 832 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,280 I think you're spectacular with it. 833 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:49,240 I always feel like we're missing something. 834 00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:51,280 And so I drag it on like a bad SNL skit. 835 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:53,760 I'm just like, let's keep going. Well, there's certain things. 836 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,440 Yeah, like we. Like after it's like we didn't 837 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,920 let's talk about this. But you know, I think we got 838 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,400 basically let's go down the list, let's to semi. 839 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:06,600 OK, we got through, you know, Katie interviews with everybody, 840 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:11,920 specifically Emily, you know, the the polygraph, Jen denying 841 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,560 everything. Oh yeah, the polygraph I think. 842 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,840 Was a bunch of bullshit that they didn't like lean into it 843 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,880 harder that like 1 like that. Those two people, even though 844 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,440 Andy was like they're the only ones that will be like on TV. 845 00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,360 They're very unprofessional, those people, right? 846 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,560 Yes, and that. Like, I think Katie could have 847 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,280 stood up and said more and they could have made a much bigger 848 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:33,480 deal over the fact that, like, So what if she failed? 849 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,880 Like other people failed questions and, you know, like 850 00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:37,200 they never brought up. Yeah. 851 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,680 Exactly about Heather in Beverly Hills and like they just made 852 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,880 this. Huge deal over how Katie failed 853 00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,240 everything and it's like so the IT was very pointed. 854 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,200 Yeah, that they were like we this is all just other everyone 855 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,520 else just window dressing. The main event is to take down 856 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,320 Katie, right? Right. 857 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,560 You know. Oh, they didn't know. 858 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,240 The questions ahead of time, it's like, yeah, but you could 859 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,000 have just said anything that Katie says she lied about. 860 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,640 Yeah, you know, it was so. And it's like I didn't need to 861 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,640 take a. Do a take a test as you were 862 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,880 lying well, but you made this whole song and dance Emily 863 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:10,080 right? But you did. 864 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,200 You had it anyway. Bugs. 865 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:13,080 Bugs. Bugs. 866 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,560 I still like her for some. Reason I don't know why I just 867 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,640 do no I. Just do. 868 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,000 Nope, she's lost my. Trust SO. 869 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,960 Yeah, yeah. So yeah, the Katie of it all. 870 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,840 We've got the Emily of it all. Shannon was just told to shut up 871 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:31,640 many times. She cries like I'm going to cry 872 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,760 this one time. Holding you to that Shannon, 873 00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,000 holding you to that Tamara. That was sweet, what she said 874 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,440 about her father. Though oh for sure for. 875 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,400 Sure, although I mean. I don't know, I I does she have 876 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,000 siblings? I don't know. 877 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,400 She might you should have because she remember that. 878 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:53,080 She was saying they had to act on a normal family thing even 879 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:55,280 though their mom was about to file the papers. 880 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,120 So so that's. Sure, they love to hear the fact 881 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,560 that their father only lives to see Shannon. 882 00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:04,400 Also, the part of it like, that's such a drama. 883 00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,360 Like Sophie. But like. 884 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,680 Also, it could be like, like, couldn't that just be hyperbole? 885 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,960 Like Jeff, I'd I'd live to see you. 886 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,680 Like I'd live to come home. And well, also to your smiling. 887 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,320 Face, it's the same. It's like I'll. 888 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,920 Take a lie detector test. It's just the same whenever he 889 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,920 said you brought it up like, yeah, you. 890 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,040 Know as you know, Katie. Said I think I'll wear pink 891 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:27,760 today. Well, that started the theme 892 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,520 that we all do it. And Katie said she's going to 893 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,080 wear pink and here we are. Yeah. 894 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,760 Like weak sauce. Weak sauce. 895 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:37,960 No, I'm not denying that way Shannon is saying is valid. 896 00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,480 I think just the way she says it. 897 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,280 Oh yeah, Her dramatics and her, you know, frustrations and you I 898 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:48,000 no for a fact. I don't know for a fact, but I 899 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:51,600 feel it in my gut that Shannon went to production because I can 900 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,440 see her being a person who goes to production and says I don't 901 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,720 feel comfortable with Katie. I don't want her to be on the 902 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:58,560 show anymore. Not that she was going to get 903 00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,600 her kicked off, but I think it she thought voicing her opinion, 904 00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:04,920 it's going to move something. It's going to shift something 905 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,800 and rallying the other girls. Obviously it it did something 906 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,880 because we didn't see Katie for the back half of the season, as 907 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,440 Annie pointed out. So you do have, you do have 908 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,920 strength if you say it enough times and if you get enough 909 00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,760 people to do it. Because obviously production 910 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,960 isn't making you film with this girl and work it out because 911 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,600 this is the show we got. Yeah, so. 912 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,400 I wish the. Other thing that they would have 913 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,520 said, you know, people really rallied behind Katie and women. 914 00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,400 How do you people, how people didn't rally behind you and 915 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:40,720 thought that you were being really horrible towards Katie? 916 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,640 Yeah, because that's the one does not exist without the 917 00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,200 other, right, Right. So oh. 918 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,040 God well. You don't need to go through the 919 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:51,520 rest of the women. I think we've covered it all. 920 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,520 Yeah. I mean, like Gina. 921 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:53,200 Like she. Didn't really. 922 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,240 I'm sure she'll get out with Travis Vidal next episode. 923 00:43:56,560 --> 00:44:03,640 Heather and her acting stuff and and the direction is she we 924 00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:05,640 talked about. Yeah, we've talked about her. 925 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,840 But we'll talk about her more next week, I'm sure, and the 926 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:10,400 week after. So until next time, well, next 927 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:10,560 time.