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Welcome to the episode of 
Husbands Watching Housewives. 

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I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we 
just watched an episode of The 

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Real Housewives of Orange 
County. 

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Yes, at a Hee Haw. 
What a round up. 

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You know, I'm I'm letting you. 
Go through all the rest of the 

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the thesaurus. 
You know that's. 

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What you're all? 
Down you meant. 

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Hee Haw ho down Yee Haw howdy. 
Yes, all the above. 

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Yes, I think it's time for the 
obligatory If you're just now 

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finding us, we thank you for 
finding us. 

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some combination of that. 

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Get us at our website, 
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and all that stuff. 
We are just two gay guys married

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to each other. 
We're saying like a man and. 

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We are, we are two men, two men,
but we're two, we're two 

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husbands married to each other 
and we watch housewives and we 

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talk about it. 
So thanks for joining us. 

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If this is not your first time, 
thanks for continuing to listen.

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I was reading, watching some 
other stuff on podcasts and 

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there was people saying like, 
you should get your listeners 

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involved and like read their 
comments on the podcast. 

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And I'm like, oh, well, I guess 
we could do that, but that just 

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feels so like morning radio DJ 
to make me that. 

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I'm just like, I don't. 
Know we also don't have like a 

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you know, we have comments 
typically on our TikTok, you 

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know, wait, maybe not typically,
but like that's where you would 

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normally find them. 
We don't usually get comments 

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like in Spotify or or or Apple 
or whatever, so. 

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Our laptop is doing weird 
things, but we're all good. 

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Yes yeah, exactly. 
So that's the thing. 

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We're. 
But you know, maybe we should do

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1 episode where we, you know, 
read some viewer viewer mail. 

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I would love some viewer mail. 
Shootusanemailhusbandswatchinghousewives@gmail.com

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I think even 
scott@husbandswatchinghousewives.com

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works and Jeff too. 
About the website. 

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People would have to know how to
spell your name though. 

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Geoff. 
At 

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husbandswatchinghousewives.com. 
Correct, correct. 

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So this episode, oh and then 
also for those of you who may 

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not have heard in previous 
episodes, we did some crossovers

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with We Wine Whenever and with 
Bestie Approved. 

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So go check out their podcast, 
give them a listen. 

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They are both some great 
podcasts and some funny people. 

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Yeah, that's where you can find 
our Miami episode and our. 

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Tarmac. 
Because we watched the Miami 

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reunion, the Potomac premiere. 
Yes, we might do all of our 

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premieres with Bestie Approve. 
We're going to get that going. 

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I gotta get him to send me a 
copy of that episode so I could 

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put it up on our feed. 
But. 

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We don't have. 
That Yeah, but it's all right. 

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It's all good. 
It's. 

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OK, we'll get there. 
But. 

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Should before we get into the 
episode, should we talk about 

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how I was wrong? 
I mean, can you say that? 

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Can you speak that into? 
You already are speaking into a 

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microphone. 
Into a microphone, yes. 

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How exactly were you wrong? 
You know, so I really thought I 

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had it down with the the seating
chart for the reunion, but I did

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not. 
I was off, not horribly off. 

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I got the positioning right of 
like, you know, who's on what 

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couch at this. 
The positions they were in was 

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incorrect. 
I think everyone though got that

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a little bit wrong. 
I think bravo was for a loop. 

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Yeah. 
So if you haven't, so basically 

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the seating chart was on one 
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First off, hold on. 
If you haven't yet, go to our 

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TikTok and watch the video. 
When Jeff is proudly declaring 

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that he got this right, so then 
later Ron, you can see how he's 

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wrong. 
I was so ready to be right and I

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had like my like whole Bobby 
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I told you so dance ready. 
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Told you so told. 
Can't do it now. 

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Can't do it? 
Do it. 

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But you also get, you also get 
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He's in the video. 
So he'll probably pop up here 

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during the podcast today, like. 
Scratch that. 

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Probably scratch something. 
He's eating cords right now. 

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Don't eat cords. 
Don't eat cords. 

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But anyway, you meanwhile talk 
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Reunion seating, So the seating 
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Let's talk about, oh, I would 
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The space of the scene in chart,
which was, you know, whatever, 

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that's your choice. 
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Tamra, Gina, Heather and then 
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And the other side was Jen, 
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the end. 
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Tamra and Katie would be 
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And people were quite miffed. 
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would be either front of the 
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second seat. 
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have been bumped up a bit more. 
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that she's not around for most 
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So she may not have a lot to 
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Yeah, they would go on the whole
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And she just like, got, you 
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But so, you know, hopefully 
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to when Drew got the last seat 
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And now she, you know, still did
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one of her best. 
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this, you know, made Katie, you 
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she really needed, I think fight
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next week, next. 
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Next week, I mean, yeah, yeah. 
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fighting for her position being 
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I don't know Shannon's love 
fight in her. 

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I think she really like got it 
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you know, first seat and like 
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by anger and John and Alexis, 
but I don't know she has it to 

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do so. 
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storyline going on. 
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It makes sense why she I thought
she would be like second seat. 

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It makes sense why she's at, you
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And it would be in seat because 
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not be out there the entire 
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She. 
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If Lexus couldn't be, then 
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Although that's true, but 
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all out there all the time. 
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like a very special case. 
That's true. 

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They're like beyond friends, 
especially Marisol. 

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So yeah, the the ghost producer 
of Miami. 

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So yeah. 
Anyways, that was her choice. 

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I was wrong. 
Let's move on. 

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Sorry, that cat. 
What? 

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What is he doing? 
I hear noise like metal. 

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With the mic stand. 
I forgot the mic stand's over 

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there. 
OK, All right, Sorry. 

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We promised. 
The mic stand the mic, What do 

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we call that? 
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these things used to be on. 
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Got it, Got it. 
Yeah. 

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All right. 
But yeah, this episode, where 

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did it start? 
Every time gets me. 

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It was picking up from the party
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like a flash forward and then 24
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So basically it was a Katie 
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Can we just get into a Katie 
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I thought there'd be a lot. 
More to it, like they could have

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had at least two more than one 
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And it was just a lot of 
vagueness. 

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I have to imagine that we're 
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To refer back. 
To it later. 

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Text messages. 
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She mentioned because they had 
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message from Slade to Matt. 
I really saw part of it, I think

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she mentioned. 
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Camera or Katie did like way, 
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more of that. 
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see because there's way more 
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feel, with Gretchen and Slade. 
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whole the thing was to go and 
find out what really happened. 

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Like, I don't feel satisfied 
that we got that information. 

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Yeah, because and also too, like
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that she's like what they like, 
like Katie telling her more 

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stuff. 
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come out and I think it's just 
Tamara waiting to use it. 

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Yeah. 
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conversation. 
And then she'll drop the bomb in

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Amsterdam. 
See, I mean, I, I it's perfect. 

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Tamara. 
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You know. 
Literally like the season ends 

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in. 
See, I'd much rather it not be a

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big gotcha moment. 
I'd much rather it just be like,

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no, this is what I found out. 
And then just have it be kind of

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a, you know, I'm above it all, 
but Tamara is going to drop. 

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It at the minute there was how 
to like, yeah, be dramatic about

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it, yes. 
And I think, yeah, doing another

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trip because like we see in the 
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like, Gretchen is like freaking 
out and like, crying or 

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attempting to cry because, you 
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So I feel like. 
Because the Botox, what you mean

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right? 
Yes, the fillers, I don't want 

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to talk about looks, but it's a 
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movement. 
Absolutely saw yeah in that 

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scene. 
We'll get to with the bow. 

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Her wagon train. 
Left so yeah. 

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So look for it's the episode 
title. 

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It has to be like getting your 
covered wagon. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So back to the Oregon Trail. 

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So yeah, so we need to see more 
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I think we will. 
Tamra and Katie, let's get to 

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it. 
Do we need to see more of Jen 

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and Shannon and a dog psychic? 
No, hell to the no, as Turei 

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would say. 
I mean, I thought that like, 

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psychics were one thing. 
I mean, between Miami's whole 

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dog brothel and then now we have
a dog psychic, I think that the 

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housewives ideas are running 
low. 

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Right, the activities. 
I would like a pet psychic, you 

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know, to know what, but I don't 
know if I would necessarily 

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bully. 
Well, the same way that, like, 

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you know, I wouldn't necessarily
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was at like a holiday party and 
there was oh. 

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I did not like better tarot 
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And he came back for another one
of our party. 

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Oh, really? 
It was just lame. 

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Oh, yeah. 
It was like, oh, he's so great. 

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And I'm like, it was lame. 
I had to like, direct him like 

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no. 
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If you know the tarot, you 
should just be able to say like 

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this is happening, you're going 
to quit your job and find 

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something better. 
I'm just saying that if I were 

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at an event like with my dogs 
and they're having to be a pet 

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psychic there, then I'd be like,
all right, let this is fun. 

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Like I don't have to go out of 
my way. 

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It's no skin off my back to go 
figure this out, you know? 

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Again, I'm we're taught this 
just speaking for two of us, I 

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believe we're tired of the 
Shannon shtick. 

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They're like, oh, oh, now you're
oh, oh, you're crapped. 

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Oh oh. 
Oh, oh gosh, and I know did 

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they, oh gosh, did they need to 
show? 

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I don't need to see the dog 
poop. 

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We're eating cookies too. 
I was like thanks, I'm trying to

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get my Milano a cookie and I'm 
seeing this dog crap. 

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Thanks, Bravo. 
No. 

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Anytime, Jeff says bravo. 
Oh my God, it was too much for 

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like 1 bag. 
That's why we don't have dogs. 

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Yeah, and that's why we have a 
little robot. 

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Yeah, I think, oh, we should get
Little Robot to sponsor us. 

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Oh my God, we love little robot.
We've converted so many people 

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to little robots. 
I mean, this is this is not a 

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paid advertisement, but if you 
are still scooping your litter 

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box, what the hell is wrong 
with? 

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You. 
That's so antiquated. 

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I mean, I know it costs a lot of
money, but. 

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It's worth it. 
It'll pay it. 

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Itself back. 
It literally spins it all and 

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drops in a little basket and you
take it out at the end of the 

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week. 
Yeah, it's great. 

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Yeah, we had friends who tried 
not to spend the money on it and

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they got some other electrical 
like Tumblr of cat litter, and 

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all they said is it was like you
got poop everywhere, like it 

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didn't work. 
So just save yourself. 

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Get the litter robot. 
It's great. 

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Litter Robot 4 because Litter 
Robot 3 is really loud. 

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You have to get like the latest 
one. 

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Yeah, silent. 
Oh, that should be coming soon. 

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I got the little the litter. 
Oh, it's mine. 

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What it is? 
It's so it's an attachment that 

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goes on the back of the little 
robot that dispenses litter into

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the machine so that it never 
gets too low. 

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It's called a Hopper. 
Yeah just a hopper. 

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Love it so it's gonna wait it's 
gonna be good it's gonna be good

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can't wait and then on top of 
that I we do we might need to 

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buy another one in general cuz 
the inside of our little robot's

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really torn up but that's a 
whole different story so. 

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Of cars, little robots we come 
here to talk about. 

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Yeah, I'm wondering, well, I 
guess I would say, what if 

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they've ever tried to make a dog
litter robot, but dogs don't 

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poop in litter. 
So they. 

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Know they would just have to 
have like a yard that turns 

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itself upside down. 
Basically it's like dog is left 

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and then spins and then pooped. 
But yeah, with us getting this 

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new cat, there's a whole like we
also realized that. 

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So our our old cat Maeve, rest 
in peace and our older cat Gabs.

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They were are really good cats. 
Like they don't knock stuff off 

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counters, they don't clot 
furniture. 

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They they are. 
Really. 

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They also were mature cats like 
when we got them like Maeve was 

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like 7 and Gabs was. 
Two but so Momo's 1:00-ish. 

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We don't know exactly but 
anyway, he's been clawing at 

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stuff and he's also really 
energetic kitten like behavior 

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still. 
So I realized today, and I told 

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Jeff when we had our Christmas 
tree, which we always do the day

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after Thanksgiving, that cat's 
going to climb right up that 

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fucker, just right up the center
of it. 

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And he's going to be swatting 
that, you know, the Christmas 

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balls, all that stuff. 
It's going to be a pain in the 

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ass and we. 
Have a lot of lovely ornaments 

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that we do not broke, broken. 
So we need to like have this 

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anchored and like deter him. 
There's a cat spray deterrent. 

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It doesn't work. 
I I mean none of that stuff 

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works. 
My mom used to spray that stuff 

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all over the house to make. 
Times have changed. 

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That was like in the 1900s. 
Oh, get out of here. 

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I'm going to read your IMDb. 
David Bedor Yes. 

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So no, that's just the thing. 
We're spoiled that we had very 

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well behaved cats. 
And so that was the other thing 

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is I've always toyed around with
the idea of we should get a dog.

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But then seeing Shannon Medor 
pick up a bunch of dog shit 

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makes me like, no, I'm not. 
I don't think we want a dog. 

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And Jim has so many dogs too, 
like. 

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It was interesting what she was 
saying, that some of the dogs 

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were hers, then Ryan had dog and
now that one dog is the one they

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got together. 
That was the missing piece of 

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the puzzle. 
Well, I mean, it's nice that 

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they had something together, you
know, because I mean, she moved 

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into his house, I think. 
There are a lot of missing 

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pieces of that puzzle. 
I mean, I feel like yes, I think

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that puzzle came missing a few 
pieces. 

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Old chips, a little broken, a 
little wilted. 

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Yeah. 
So was there anything else Jen 

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really did this episode other 
than towards? 

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Kiss. 
Kiss Gretchen's ass. 

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Shannon was always kissing 
Gretchen's ass. 

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We'll get to that. 
Well, see, that's what I was 

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thinking as well, talking about 
the reunion. 

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I mean, I think Gretchen, the 
Gretchen, the only thing Shannon

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has her way back is to become 
the enemy of my enemy is my 

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friend, I think. 
But it's so, and she thinks 

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she's doing what Tamara did. 
But Tamara legit had a 

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friendship with Alexis. 
They were in a bad place. 

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They, you know, do you? 
Want to go check that out? 

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We can go. 
Just take a break. 

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I can edit this slip. 
Our cat just jumped down our 

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spiral staircase pretty damn 
far. 

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So is he OK? 
He's fine. 

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Did he land? 
Did he go all the way down to 

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the first floor? 
OK, All right, Our, everybody, 

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we, they can't hear you, but 
it's OK, We have a. 

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Sorry. 
So we have a spiral staircase up

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to the loft which which every 
one of our friends with children

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comes over here and says, dear 
God, that's a child death trap. 

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Our cats, you know, cats like to
balance on things and play, you 

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know, Acrobat. 
And he just jumped from our 

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ledge to the spiral staircase 
and. 

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I thought he jumped down way 
further too. 

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The thing is, there's a gap 
between the ledge and the spiral

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staircase that like you could 
fall and plummet. 

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But he was like, I can get, I 
can do this. 

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Luckily, cats just like us don't
want to die, so they, they, you 

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know, survival instincts. 
I want to see the video of this 

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because I literally my jaw 
dropped and I just like did I 

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witness that? 
I've never seen that's like 

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almost as bad as like gabs. 
Well, he ran down the Christmas 

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tree. 
No, when she like jumped from. 

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Over here I'll get some the. 
Christmas tree was way scary 

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because I saw that happen. 
Yeah, I'll get some video of 

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what we're talking about so the 
listeners can reviewers can see 

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in the style staircase. 
Why is it different what 

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Shannon's doing? 
Shannon thought that she's doing

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the same thing as oh, but. 
Oh, but because like it just she

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would just be obviously Tamara 
did not befriend Alexis to hurt 

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Shannon, right? 
She just like naturally they 

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became friends. 
Whatever, they're still friends.

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John Jansen and Alexis are still
together. 

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It's not all about a plot 
against Shannon. 

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Believe they got married on a 
Friday. 

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Maybe that was the only day they
could get the venue. 

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I mean, look, I don't love, I'm 
not kind of trying to be bitchy,

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but like, I don't do a Friday 
wedding. 

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I mean, do a Friday wedding. 
Yeah, it's cheaper. 

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I know. 
Not that like we need to save 

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money, but. 
I don't know. 

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But like also like a Friday 
wedding just kind of says to 

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your guests that like, I don't 
really care if you make it or 

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not. 
Well, people have stuff that 

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they need to do on Fridays. 
They go to work and everything 

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that's like then they get them 
off work. 

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It's like, or you're going to 
expect half your friends to take

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the entire day off work. 
Like whatever. 

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Like I guess if they're really 
your friends and you're getting 

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married, they do it. 
But it's also what, her third 

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wedding? 
Third marriage? 

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You're right, There's a Yeah. 
So I get in his probably second 

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or third so. 2nd. 
Maybe. 

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I mean, we felt very strongly, 
as many people do, about their 

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first wedding, so. 
Sure, but it was a big 

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production. 
It's like she had like an actual

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like Kimosabe like situation as 
opposed to Emily's well like 

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arts and crafts. 
It does. 

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It does seem that like that 
cowboy hat that that apparently 

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there's a market of customized 
cowboy hats all over. 

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I wanted to have a party where 
there's like actually, no, I 

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don't need to do Western theme. 
I'm fine with the Western theme.

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I don't need to do Western 
theme. 

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It's up there flappers now and 
like we're in 20s, let's just 

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let's find other things. 
Right. 

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So for. 
Like murder mystery. 

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I could. 
Have you ever actually done a 

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real murder mystery party? 
No. 

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Like I did one once. 
I want to say like the year 

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after I graduated high school 
with Kevin and some people over 

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to a party, and it was actually 
really fun. 

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However, it's every murder 
mystery party that I've ever 

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heard of. 
And this one in particular, the 

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way someone gets murdered is 
just incredibly unlikely. 

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And like, you have to just be 
like, oh, well, of course he 

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stepped into the bathroom and 
there's water on the floor and 

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there's a wire, of course. 
And there's things that you just

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have to like make up or assume. 
It's always implausible. 

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So no one figured out who the 
hell got murder? 

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Half, I think. 
We're going down a rabbit hole, 

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we are. 
But let's. 

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Let's read you that. 
But yeah, in any event, yeah, I 

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Friday. 
Weddings. 

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Friday weddings, Shannon, 
whatever, whatever. 

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Camera's actually friends with 
Alexis. 

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Correct. 
That's the the main story, Yes. 

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The covered wagon scene, Yeah. 
So basically it's, you know, 

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it's juxtaposing Alexa. 
Sorry. 

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Woo. 
Gretchen meeting with Emily and 

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then Tamra and Gina and Heather,
Heather, which I thought was a 

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good scene. 
But yeah, so basically the 

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Gretchen, Emily part of it, it's
just like, you know, a man like 

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Tamra just can't take criticism.
She can't be called out da, da, 

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da. 
And then it like, somehow, like,

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somehow like, evolves into like,
this is all your fault, says 

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Gretchen to Emily. 
And Emily, of course, is like, 

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Oh no, we will miss on the 
Prairie. 

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Yeah, I mean, I both Gretchen 
and I'm sorry, both Gina and 

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Emily are confusing the crap out
of Maine because they're being 

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so wishy washy about what 
they're actually like, I guess 

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how they feel about Tamara, 
right? 

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Because Gina's over there 
sitting with Tamara and being 

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all like, oh, you know, I'm, 
yeah, I support you and oh, and 

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oh, oh. 
Gina was like, that's like, run 

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her a warm bath, right her hair 
and say it's OK, like. 

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But then turn around and agree 
with everyone about how Tamara 

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can't be trusted and about how 
Tamara overreacts and da da. 

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Da da, da. 
Well, in the flashbacks, like 

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Tamara in the Bush. 
Yeah, with Gina, someone is 

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hilarious. 
But too, it's like she's like it

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clicked to me. 
You know, this is like just like

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that time when you were in the 
Bush and like you're having a 

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bad year. 
And you know, I like the 

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sentiment of you're going 
through a lot and you're not in 

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your right mind necessarily, and
so you're not at your best. 

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You're not your. 
Best, Yeah, I shouldn't say your

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right mind. 
You're not your best. 

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And so like I don't want to pile
on and I want to be there for 

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you. 
Even if I disagree with your 

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reactions, I understand that 
they're not. 

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They're not coming from nowhere.
Is what like what I got from 

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what she No absolutely it. 
Just it, I mean, she definitely 

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like was practicing that in 
front of a mirror before she got

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in the car to meet Tamara. 
So like she says to Travis. 

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Yeah, she was like, how does 
this? 

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Sound, honey. 
And went over it, which is fine 

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if that's that's clearly what 
she wants to convey and she 

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conveyed it well. 
It's just that I wish she would,

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I don't know, be more 
consistent. 

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She's. 
Yeah, she's basically like I see

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you spiraling and I want to 
help. 

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But yes, you're true, just true.
She it should be more. 

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I don't know. 
I think just. 

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I think also. 
Where's that grace in the moment

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Like she's she's giving it to 
Tamara when Tamara's like all 

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calm down. 
But in the moment she's just 

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piling on with everyone else is 
how they were realized. 

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But she's. 
Like you should go. 

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But really, that was a pad party
though. 

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Yeah, so. 
But the fact they showed. 

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Those clips of of her she stayed
behind true to like help out 

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Tamara. 
I'm like, you know, I want to 

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give you a hug. 
I appreciated Gina and what she 

448
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,680
was doing and but yes, they it's
it's a little back and forth 

449
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,440
with both her and Emily in the 
verge right. 

450
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:05,640
So the Emily. 
Side of things like she's 

451
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,400
sitting there being all like 
like Tamara this Tamara's bad 

452
00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,600
duh duh, duh like I can't 
believe that you know but then I

453
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:14,920
I can't tell and I think I know 
the answer. 

454
00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,600
I can't tell where the line gets
drawn is when Gretchen starts 

455
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:24,000
saying that Tamara's making a 
bigger deal out of it than it is

456
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,720
That's when Emily is like no, 
but you're the one who brought 

457
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,560
this all up you're the one who's
doing well. 

458
00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,400
That was like. 
At the party I think the line it

459
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,720
got flipped around when Gretchen
said this is your fault got good

460
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:40,480
but like she skipped backwards 
to you told Tamara what I said 

461
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,800
about her the song and they 
start fighting about that she 

462
00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:45,920
meant that's what she was 
talking about because I. 

463
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,920
I I think Emily got really, 
truly pissed off at Gretchen 

464
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:51,960
when she was like, Gretchen was 
like, you know, I never brought 

465
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,680
up any of this and but you did. 
Yeah, and Emily was like but. 

466
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,960
You did. 
I heard you with my own ears. 

467
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:59,720
You had stopped. 
Yourself as she made a song 

468
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,520
where she sounded like crap, 
that'd be one thing. 

469
00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:06,120
But then you segue to she 
screwed said guy from said boy 

470
00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:08,880
band and you know, we can call 
Slade. 

471
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,040
He'd back me up. 
And then you, like, flipped it. 

472
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,920
No, no, That was all Slade. 
Yeah, like you forget there's a 

473
00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,440
camera from your face. 
Yeah. 

474
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,040
The one you've wanted so much 
for so long to get back on the 

475
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:18,840
show. 
Yeah. 

476
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,240
Remember, it's there. 
It's capturing everything you're

477
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,600
saying. 
I really do. 

478
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:28,240
Like Emily, when she's, I don't 
know, I think when she's being 

479
00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,520
at our breaking. 
Point and telling you to go back

480
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:31,840
here. 
No getting your converted wagon.

481
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,080
I do like it when Emily. 
Gets called out and she. 

482
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,480
Yeah, she does get really, 
really sharp and feisty, like, 

483
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,840
you know, the last season with 
Alexis Blino. 

484
00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:40,400
Laurie, what are you even doing 
here? 

485
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,040
You're just a friend. 
She. 

486
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,880
I. 
That was the best. 

487
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:45,920
But then I liked what she said 
about Gretchen. 

488
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,280
Go back to your covered wagon. 
Because she did. 

489
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:49,800
I mean, that was quite an 
outfit. 

490
00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,760
And then even Gretchen's 
explanation of like, I just like

491
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:57,880
girly things and. 
Well, OK, whatever, ma'am. 

492
00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:02,320
Yeah, whatever. 
Yeah, I just wish that Gretchen 

493
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,720
or I'm sorry, I wish that Emily 
was a little bit more authentic 

494
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,320
or consistent with her 
authenticity. 

495
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:12,520
The same way I about about Gina.
It's just she seems to be like 

496
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,040
when Tamara's around, she's very
pro Tamara. 

497
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:19,040
When Tamara's not around, she's 
very like, Tamara's a problem. 

498
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,960
Well, how do you feel then? 
About how Heather reacts, 

499
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:26,400
especially in the scene, which I
felt was they didn't get to, 

500
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,680
they didn't get anywhere when 
she meets. 

501
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:29,560
Gina and them. 
Yeah. 

502
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,000
Yeah. 
Like she tries to express 

503
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,480
herself. 
And the Tamara kind of shuts her

504
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,600
down. 
And then they just like, you 

505
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,880
know, stop talking about it, I 
feel. 

506
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,920
Like, I don't know, I felt like 
Tamara, even though she shut it 

507
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,680
down like was let's heard what 
Heather was saying of like I did

508
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:48,040
explain this to you before. 
You didn't want to hear it. 

509
00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:51,200
And then like, oh, you're being 
condescending and I I think I 

510
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:51,920
know. 
Well, that's just. 

511
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,400
That's just Heathers voice, 
yeah. 

512
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,280
Yeah, but I, I think I think 
they're going to be fine in a 

513
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,120
good place. 
And, and I think Gina being 

514
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:02,160
there to kind of say, you know, 
Heather really cares about you. 

515
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:04,360
You guys are actually friends. 
It's also interesting to hear 

516
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:07,480
them say like you guys are 
actually friends beyond this 

517
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:08,000
reality. 
Show. 

518
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,040
But I also understand what 
Tamara's saying. 

519
00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,160
You know, You said you're afraid
of me. 

520
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:12,680
You said that you don't trust 
me. 

521
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:16,360
Then why are we even friends? 
Are we just show friends? 

522
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,560
Are we real friends and I 
wonder? 

523
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,120
Like if she were to have the 
conversation, you know, that's 

524
00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:24,000
what Shannon did to me. 
You know, we were friends until 

525
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,920
I wasn't on the show anymore, 
and then and then behoove her. 

526
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,040
Right, to be friends with me 
then. 

527
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,120
She wasn't. 
Yeah. 

528
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,400
So. 
That'd be interesting to hear. 

529
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:37,040
Yeah, I feel like we should. 
Well, we've mentioned Emily is 

530
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,000
go mention the Innocence 
Project. 

531
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,440
I think it's a great. 
Project. 

532
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,920
I think this the stats on that 
are just horrible. 

533
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,560
Absolutely, you know, and I 
think doing, you know, what she 

534
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,000
can to help and raising that 
money for that, for that man to 

535
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,920
like, you know, better himself 
and help his family. 

536
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,160
I think that was great and that 
they raised the money and it was

537
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,480
actual, you know, sometimes you 
just throw out like charity and 

538
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,720
you know, see like where it's 
going, the money, it's just 

539
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,440
like, oh, it's it's for 
whatever. 

540
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,800
And this is like, no, this is 
what he needs in order to go to 

541
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,920
school. 
And I thought it was. 

542
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,800
I thought it was great, I feel. 
And we can cut this out if you 

543
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,880
want to. 
I feel like a little confused by

544
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,720
it because we hear all the time 
that Emily is very conservative 

545
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:24,600
and leans very, you know, 
conservative politically. 

546
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,000
But yet here she is talking 
about, you know, how the 

547
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,760
criminal justice system is 
screwed up and how all these 

548
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,240
people are innocent. 
You know that she said like 4 to

549
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,440
5%. 
You know, those are statistics 

550
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,240
of people in jail. 
Are there wrongly? 

551
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,360
And so it just doesn't seem, it 
doesn't feel to me like a very 

552
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:46,360
conservative sort of talking 
point to say that the people 

553
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:48,120
that are in jail don't belong 
there. 

554
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:49,920
You know what I mean, right? 
It's very. 

555
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,800
Interesting and. 
Then also the fact that like 

556
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,560
that's not something that if she
truly is conservative and votes 

557
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,560
for a conservative, you know, 
administration, that that's 

558
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,600
something that they would all be
at all be prioritized, they're 

559
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,000
going to say. 
You know who's in jail belongs 

560
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,800
in jail. 
That's that's they have that 

561
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,040
salute, they have that. 
Whole thing of like, well, you 

562
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,240
must have been doing something 
wrong if you got arrested, you 

563
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,280
know, that whole thing. 
So it's just interesting to me 

564
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:14,520
that no, I hadn't thought about 
that. 

565
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,920
Yeah, yeah. 
So. 

566
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,440
But yeah. 
You can't speak in absolutes 

567
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,160
like not everyone who is in 
prison deserves to be there, 

568
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,320
right? 
Things happen and you know, 

569
00:26:23,320 --> 00:26:26,680
evidence gets lost or it's used 
against someone who shouldn't 

570
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,760
and it's just it's not so black 
and white and right, you know, I

571
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,240
just. 
And yeah, the. 

572
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,760
Same way conservatism and 
liberalism isn't all black and 

573
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,000
white and everything. 
So I mean you two things can be 

574
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,520
true at the same time etcetera. 
It's an. 

575
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,800
Interesting point of view. 
Yeah, you know the other thing I

576
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,120
thought. 
About it, when they had the two 

577
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:46,120
guys over to her house to kind 
of talk and get some data points

578
00:26:46,120 --> 00:26:48,360
or whatever. 
It was kind of awkward watching 

579
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:50,680
Emily talk. 
It reminded me of Luann giving 

580
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,360
those girls makeovers. 
Wasn't that Luann? 

581
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,320
Yeah. 
How do you know? 

582
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,880
That that was like season 1. 
No, no, no. 

583
00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:58,080
She. 
Had brought him back like in 

584
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:01,080
towards the end of old New York.
Oh. 

585
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,840
Couple I think I'm thinking of 
like when she met with like the 

586
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,480
children and yeah, there was. 
One where it was like what? 

587
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,120
It was like this. 
Underprivileged. 

588
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:09,840
Youth, they, they need 
makeovers. 

589
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,600
And so it was like completely 
Luann being like, no, I think it

590
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,320
was. 
Like in the vein of like, you 

591
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:18,240
know, women who need they've 
been, oh, they were home. 

592
00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,640
They were or in the. 
Shelters. 

593
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:21,640
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 
yeah 'cause it it was. 

594
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,600
It was Lu Ann because. 
Lu was just a little oblivious 

595
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,800
in the way like Lu Ann would 
talk about it and be like, well,

596
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,280
like it was almost like, no, 
your problems are solved. 

597
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,800
I gave you a makeover and it was
like, no, I can get a job. 

598
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,600
And like, get an apartment and I
feel like Emily. 

599
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,160
Was doing her best to navigate 
the conversation, but I think 

600
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,440
there are a few things where she
was making it like when she 

601
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,000
said, you know, knowing that you
went through this, like it makes

602
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,400
me feel like all my problems are
nothing and right. 

603
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,720
Oh, so inspiring to you. 
That could have been. 

604
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,920
Worded better. 
Yeah, ma'am. 

605
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,480
So it did. 
Yeah, it. 

606
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,360
Just kind of made me feel like 
OK, but again, I mean, good on 

607
00:27:58,360 --> 00:27:59,440
her though. 
Exactly. 

608
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,240
Yes, No, it's a good thing to be
involved with. 

609
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Yes, which then we get. 
To the whole charity Hoedown, 

610
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,440
not a yeehaw, A Hoedown. 
And I'm glad they actually, they

611
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,000
raised the money and that 
wasn't, you know, that was 

612
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,240
separate from the drama that 
played out. 

613
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,200
What do you like about Gina? 
Like giving the 5000 and then 

614
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,760
like when Terry Dubrow walks up.
What is the layers like? 

615
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,680
Can a bitch have a moment? 
'Cause that's just a genuine 

616
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,400
like, oh great, he's gonna walk 
up and be like like do the whole

617
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,480
Kenya thing like, oh, 25,000 
right, I forgot that Kenya. 

618
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,000
'Cause didn't she do that? 
Just like, oh, how much we're 

619
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,520
trying to raise. 
Oh, I'll give that. 

620
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,720
You know, it was at someone. 
'S yeah, like party and yeah 

621
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,120
yeah, yeah, anyway. 
Like the thing Scott remembers. 

622
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,280
I know. 
Well, so we just like Terry, say

623
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,200
like, oh, you're 50,000 for the 
Trevor Project, right? 

624
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,480
Which also also great, 'cause 
I'm glad that they showed that 

625
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,240
that was good too. 
But no, I you're right about 

626
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:54,640
that. 
Though that that scene with 

627
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,200
everyone there at the ice cream 
shop or whatever, the cookie 

628
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,760
shop that could have been filmed
whenever. 

629
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,960
Well, no, because we. 
Actually, we saw like a scene 

630
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,320
later on where Emily and Tam are
talking and she says I met with 

631
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,960
Katie. 
Oh, so it did happen around the 

632
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,880
same time because I was like, it
seems weird. 

633
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:11,760
I just felt like maybe. 
They threw that in there because

634
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,760
like, well, this would be a good
spot to put Heather's, you know,

635
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,360
charitable, right? 
Isn't it like a? 

636
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,880
Charity, but no, it actually 
happened around that same time. 

637
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,600
Yeah, it was like all. 
The same week. 

638
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,600
It was a very busy week for 
them. 

639
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,880
Very. 
Yeah. 

640
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,000
So yes, the the Hee Haw Ho 
Downs, which was going. 

641
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,880
Fine, you know, until Gretchen 
and Slade showed up. 

642
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:33,360
Of course they showed up last. 
And as I mean, if, if God, what?

643
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,840
If Jen and. 
Ryan are like cowboy Barbie and 

644
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,920
Ken like what are Gretchen and 
Slade like Midge and would 

645
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,400
skipper. 
And the other Ken? 

646
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,520
There, Yeah, like Ken's only 
named Ken, There's no other 

647
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,320
names. 
Like there was Mage, there was 

648
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,960
Skipper. 
Skipper. 

649
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,480
That was where it. 
Gave me did you say? 

650
00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:01,560
Skipper, skipper Hey skipper. 
So. 

651
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:08,760
Yeah, I, I want, yeah, I, I not 
a big person on theme parties in

652
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,720
general. 
And then the amount of costume 

653
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,160
they were. 
I like what Shannon wore to 

654
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,400
that. 
I mean, if you're going to go 

655
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,720
into it, that's over the top. 
Oh, I'm sorry. 

656
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:20,120
Shannon, now we can get to it. 
And she's obsessed with you, 

657
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,440
Gretchen. 
No, Tamra is not obsessed with 

658
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,040
Gretchen. 
Shannon, stop trying to fit the 

659
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,200
narrative that it works for you.
Just be like, I hate Tamra and 

660
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,480
move on. 
Like this. 

661
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,040
Little like, or the whole like 
we're supposed to like, you 

662
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:34,920
know, acting. 
Everything's normal. 

663
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,640
And then she quit again. 
Yeah, you are. 

664
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,360
Because she's one of the stars 
of the show. 

665
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,800
Yeah. 
How many times did you watch? 

666
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Yeah. 
Also don't act like. 

667
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,720
You haven't gone out like that. 
You were like all up in. 

668
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:49,120
Video village like crying 
Shannon like just stifle. 

669
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,640
Keep it quiet, so. 
Yes, they were ones like, 

670
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,240
they're trying to like, you 
know, mind their business. 

671
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,560
And then being Tamara and Eddie,
like, we'll be on the side of 

672
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,120
the room. 
And then like Jen Hass, like 

673
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,880
Tamara met with Katie. 
It was about Slade. 

674
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,440
Oh, go get her. 
None of that made. 

675
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,280
Sense to me I mean clearly once 
more you know it's obvious 

676
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,000
Gretchen was drunk like she 
drank quite a not quite a bit, 

677
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,520
but yeah and so she was feeling 
a little liquid courage and was 

678
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,600
like ready to confront her. 
But then even all the reasoning 

679
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,880
of like, you know, oh, I need to
bring, you know, Slade with me. 

680
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,440
It's like, First off, Slade is 
not on the show. 

681
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:34,440
Do not he's not a friend of. 
He's your life partner, yes, 

682
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:39,320
he's miked, yes he's invited to 
this, but like he, we know that 

683
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,760
he and Tamara are like oil and 
water, so why are you trying to 

684
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:48,440
make this happen besides that? 
The whole thing Tamara has no 

685
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:52,080
incentive to make right with 
him, Marian, he's not part of 

686
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:53,640
the show she tried to make right
with. 

687
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,720
You and you like and this is 
what you keep. 

688
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,160
Doing so like you know you need 
to. 

689
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,600
You need to make your 
relationship with Tamara work, 

690
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,120
and you need to quit blaming 
your life partner and quit 

691
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,520
blaming other people and take 
accountability for what you're 

692
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,080
doing, what you're trying to do.
And she won't. 

693
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,480
She won't and also like you 
don't need to all be good 

694
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:17,160
because there's no way in hell 
that Tamara and Eddie and 

695
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,040
Gretchen is later going to have 
like a couple's nights. 

696
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,280
So it's just like as Co workers 
you and Tamara have to get along

697
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,120
but you keep messing that up 
intentionally because you are 

698
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,080
obsessed with Tamara and you 
keep wanting to throw these 

699
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,480
daggers. 
And then you're like. 

700
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,480
No, like why is, you know, like 
it's a lot of. 

701
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,840
Gaslighting of of Tamara's 
behavior, not the camera doesn't

702
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:42,000
have questionable behavior. 
It's just that, like, it's not, 

703
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,600
I don't see, I can't see the way
Tamara's acting meshing up with 

704
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,920
the story that Gretchen is 
trying to tell, No. 

705
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,000
And. 
It's and the times that Tamara. 

706
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,520
Has reacted to Gretchen. 
It seemed warranted, you know, 

707
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200
overreactions. 
Little reaction but. 

708
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,800
Warranted, but. 
Like if someone is saying. 

709
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,800
That I was having an affair. 
And then like, then you're all 

710
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,800
saying like, I know so much 
about you, right? 

711
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,960
What do you think she's gonna 
do? 

712
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,360
Be like, no, please don't 
Gretchen. 

713
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,240
Anything not be nice. 
Ohh, I wonder. 

714
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,880
I wonder. 
What would happen if Tamara 

715
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,880
tried to actually just kind of 
kill Gretchen with kindness and 

716
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:19,080
just be like, and not in a 
mocking way, but like, be like, 

717
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,400
you're OK, You're right. 
I'm a horrible. 

718
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,720
I'm a horrible person. 
I'm very sorry. 

719
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,760
Did it, You know, like what? 
Gretchen would be standing there

720
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,360
with her jaw half open. 
Like what? 

721
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,760
Huh. 
No, she wrote with Evan now. 

722
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,760
She's mocking me now. 
She's like, you know, not being 

723
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,480
real. 
It's they're not going to ever 

724
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:37,720
wake each other, so they just 
need to stop and by Yeah. 

725
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:39,440
And I. 
Think the reason that is, is as 

726
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:44,280
much as there's, I'm sure you 
know, BS on both sides. 

727
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,400
I think Tamara's BS is more 
rooted in truth than Gretchen's.

728
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,760
And so that's why they're never 
going to work, because Gretchen 

729
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,840
continues to insist that her 
truth is the real truth, which 

730
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,400
it's not, and she's holding on 
to. 

731
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,760
Truth from years and years ago 
that you know no one cares about

732
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,000
it. 
Like you and Slater. 

733
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,320
Than the ones who care about 
this beef and it's old. 

734
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,199
It's like it's the beef from 
like Jen. 

735
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,320
Jen cares. 
Because she, you know, doesn't 

736
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:11,880
have any. 
Because it suits her exactly. 

737
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,120
Because it suits her narrative. 
Again, they all belong on the 

738
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,679
same couch. 
Good, good. 

739
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,760
You make it seem like. 
One couch is beautiful and the 

740
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,440
other one's shitty. 
You all belong on the same 

741
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,760
couch, not a wayfarer. 
Couch, not a couch. 

742
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:31,440
Here to find a Bravo comment. 
But it might have a radial couch

743
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,440
I. 
What do you think about Tamara 

744
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,400
calling Gretchen trash? 
Is it wasn't that didn't that 

745
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,679
create problem on another 
franchise referring to someone 

746
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:41,280
as trash? 
I feel like there's so. 

747
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,440
Many people have been called 
trash I know, but maybe it was 

748
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:44,320
Potomac. 
Where? 

749
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,840
Candace called someone trash. 
Candace is probably gone A. 

750
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,280
Lot of people trash. 
But I remember some one of the 

751
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,560
times it was a problem and so 
like I, I feel like maybe it was

752
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:59,600
just like at the time, like, you
know, the I'm. 

753
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,120
Yeah, I'm not going to call 
names. 

754
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,360
I just think that they just act 
horribly and I don't understand 

755
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,360
their objective and they just 
are going about everything in 

756
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,080
the wrong way on the show, 
Gretchen and Slade so and they 

757
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,360
just, they showed their asses by
like running after Tamra and 

758
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,400
saying like, run, bitch, run. 
Like Allah, Forrest Gump, like 

759
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,640
you just looked horrible. 
You're shouting out this charity

760
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,720
event and you're drunk and you 
are the messy one. 

761
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,720
And then when she flipped out on
Emily, the wrong person to flip 

762
00:35:30,720 --> 00:35:34,360
out on girl, like she'll just 
swat you like a cat. 

763
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,800
It's just no, what are you 
doing? 

764
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,120
What are you doing, Gretchen? 
And I'm shocked that they're all

765
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:46,000
going to end up like, on the 
same group trip, you know, 

766
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,200
without Katie. 
Without Katie, they wanted. 

767
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,080
To go, but they wouldn't let her
go. 

768
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,080
That's so dumb. 
Yeah. 

769
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:55,840
I think so, yeah. 
It was a good episode. 

770
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:57,160
It was. 
Yeah, it was a good episode. 

771
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,400
We've talked about everyone 
talked about the reunion. 

772
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:02,480
Yeah, we talked about how. 
Wrong. 

773
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:03,880
You were about the seating 
charts. 

774
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,800
So God, I can't believe I'm 
married to you. 

775
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,120
I'm not changing. 
It what I have here is like it 

776
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,960
should be the correct order. 
Yeah, I'm not changing it. 

777
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,240
Yeah, I mean, there's so. 
Many thumbtacks that need to 

778
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,640
move but. 
You know what? 

779
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,160
If you can't be a star at the at
the front of the couch, you 

780
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,280
should be a star at the end of 
the couch and and B. 

781
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,800
Davis as Alice. 
That's how it works, right? 

782
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,560
It's the and be the and be. 
The good and I love that I 

783
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,920
showed you that Katie posted 
that picture of the gutter and 

784
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,000
there's like my home for today 
shooting the reunion. 

785
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,840
Yes, go to the gutter, Katie. 
I wonder. 

786
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,840
She did. 
I wonder. 

787
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,440
How well tastefully the gutter, 
you know. 

788
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:42,600
Well, I think you know just. 
Like, I'm not going to take your

789
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,280
crap scorched earth. 
Is what scorched earth it needs 

790
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,560
to be like? 
Well, if this is my one and only

791
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,680
chance to get the truth out 
there, I'm getting it out there.

792
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,280
I'm not holding any punches. 
I'm going to make sure that like

793
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,280
everything that needs to be said
is said yes. 

794
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,840
I'm into. 
That I wonder if they moved her.

795
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:00,880
Like away from Tamara. 
So they like Tamara couldn't be 

796
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,000
like, you know, whispering 
things like no, no, no, we can't

797
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,120
do that. 
No, that could be. 

798
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,280
Like coaching her. 
Which, you know, she's got AI 

799
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,920
hope she flies on her own and 
she does a great job. 

800
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:17,480
I would want her to come back 
and you know, I would be People 

801
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,920
will be quite upset if she 
doesn't come back. 

802
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:22,040
I was gonna say like a. 
Lot just the comments on that 

803
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,520
Bravo's post about seating 
chart. 

804
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,880
People were so upset. 
She's at the end of the day. 

805
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,360
And like, yeah, yeah, people 
were not having it. 

806
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,960
I. 
I mean I never believe people in

807
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,840
their they're like if that 
happens, I'll never watch the 

808
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,040
show again yeah, you're gonna 
watch the show. 

809
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,360
I mean there's people this 
already like this season's been 

810
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,520
so bad I stopped watching It's 
like yet you're still following 

811
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,840
right on Instagram, OK, or you 
hate watch. 

812
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,240
I mean some. 
People just say like I get all 

813
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,840
my information from because I'm 
not watching the show so I get 

814
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:49,360
it from Instagram or Reddit 
whatever. 

815
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,200
I believe that they should be 
getting it from husbands. 

816
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,880
Watching Housewives? 
Just let's do our recap. 

817
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,640
Yeah, you. 
Don't need to watch. 

818
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:55,160
Yeah, you don't. 
I mean, you should watch. 

819
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,360
Yeah, You know, we want to 
support. 

820
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,760
But if you're not going. 
To watch the show and you just 

821
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,680
need a quick update, then yeah, 
just save your finger from 

822
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,560
scrolling and just go to 
husbandswatchinghousewives.com. 

823
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,000
Yeah, or wherever you get your 
podcasts. 

824
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,880
We give you the non recap. 
Recap and you feel like OK at 

825
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,920
all we go through all the. 
Women and make sure you know how

826
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,080
we feel about them, yes. 
And we don't feel good about. 

827
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,280
Gretchen. 
I don't I really don't I I I 

828
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,880
just don't. 
So if you had. 

829
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,200
To pick a favorite of the 
episode, who would you pick? 

830
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:24,240
A favorite person? 
Yeah. 

831
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:25,440
Who? 
Who's VP? 

832
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,720
Yeah, who is your? 
MVP of this episode I. 

833
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,320
Mean it's always, not always 
because sometimes I'm like girl,

834
00:38:32,720 --> 00:38:37,120
but typically it's Tamra. 
So I think it might have seemed 

835
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,840
like, as Kretchen was trying to 
say, if you're running away from

836
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,000
something that means you're 
guilty. 

837
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,560
No, it means that you're moving 
yourself in the situation so you

838
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,800
don't commit homicide. 
That's a good thing. 

839
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,280
That's gross. 
Yeah, Yeah, that's just. 

840
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,320
I think they're leaving. 
The situation with Eddie and 

841
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,960
just being like, I don't need 
that. 

842
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,240
You know, she's not quitting. 
You shouldn't say that she'd 

843
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,240
quit, right? 
So I think, you know, for that 

844
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,160
you're not quitting. 
And it's not like she left. 

845
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,040
The party early like all of the 
stuff that already happened 

846
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,080
right you know it was sure 
she'd. 

847
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,280
Donated, right, You know, and 
she's like, now we now it's time

848
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,000
to go. 
Home. 

849
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,960
I'm glad they didn't show Eddie 
flipping the bird in the actual 

850
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:13,640
episode they've had her talk 
about. 

851
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,360
It yeah, which just makes sense,
but I'm sure. 

852
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,600
In the extended Peacock version,
it'll be there or whatever. 

853
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:18,560
Oh, there you go. 
So. 

854
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,040
It'll be there for. 
Them like double. 

855
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,200
Or. 
Hear you my MVPI think was Emily

856
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,960
in this episode. 
Oh, Emily's, Yeah. 

857
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,560
Because again, I. 
I, I, it gives me hope when 

858
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:33,520
she's not totally kissing 
Gretchen's Gretcher's ass, like 

859
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,680
when she's, when she's able to 
turn kissing, I think. 

860
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,080
It's just like I'm getting along
with my Co worker. 

861
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,440
Yeah, but like. 
There's been a lot of times 

862
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,840
where I think she's kind of 
swallowed the truth just to let 

863
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:47,760
Gretchen get her narrative 
across. 

864
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,880
And I I'm liking when she like 
is standing up to her a little 

865
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,320
bit even though if she walks out
and comes back in 5 minutes 

866
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,000
later like we learned in that 
one scene. 

867
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,680
So but yeah, no. 
I think she had a strong 

868
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,280
showing. 
I agree, definitely. 

869
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:02,400
Well, I think. 
Well, we covered everything. 

870
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,480
Do we have anything else we want
to talk about or should we talk 

871
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,160
about it next time? 
I think until next time all. 

872
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:06,520
Right.
