Welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we just watched an episode of The
Real Housewives of Orange County.
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I was reading, watching some other stuff on podcasts and
there was people saying like, you should get your listeners
involved and like read their comments on the podcast.
And I'm like, oh, well, I guess we could do that, but that just
feels so like morning radio DJ to make me that.
I'm just like, I don't. Know we also don't have like a
you know, we have comments typically on our TikTok, you
know, wait, maybe not typically, but like that's where you would
normally find them. We don't usually get comments
like in Spotify or or or Apple or whatever, so.
Our laptop is doing weird things, but we're all good.
Yes yeah, exactly. So that's the thing.
We're. But you know, maybe we should do
1 episode where we, you know, read some viewer viewer mail.
I would love some viewer mail. Shootusanemailhusbandswatchinghousewives@gmail.com
I think even scott@husbandswatchinghousewives.com
works and Jeff too. About the website.
People would have to know how to spell your name though.
Geoff. At
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So this episode, oh and then also for those of you who may
not have heard in previous episodes, we did some crossovers
with We Wine Whenever and with Bestie Approved.
So go check out their podcast, give them a listen.
They are both some great podcasts and some funny people.
Yeah, that's where you can find our Miami episode and our.
Tarmac. Because we watched the Miami
reunion, the Potomac premiere. Yes, we might do all of our
premieres with Bestie Approve. We're going to get that going.
I gotta get him to send me a copy of that episode so I could
put it up on our feed. But.
We don't have. That Yeah, but it's all right.
It's all good. It's.
OK, we'll get there. But.
Should before we get into the episode, should we talk about
how I was wrong? I mean, can you say that?
Can you speak that into? You already are speaking into a
microphone. Into a microphone, yes.
How exactly were you wrong? You know, so I really thought I
had it down with the the seating chart for the reunion, but I did
not. I was off, not horribly off.
I got the positioning right of like, you know, who's on what
couch at this. The positions they were in was
incorrect. I think everyone though got that
a little bit wrong. I think bravo was for a loop.
Yeah. So if you haven't, so basically
the seating chart was on one side.
First off, hold on. If you haven't yet, go to our
TikTok and watch the video. When Jeff is proudly declaring
that he got this right, so then later Ron, you can see how he's
wrong. I was so ready to be right and I
had like my like whole Bobby Adler.
I told you so dance ready. Yeah.
Told you so told. Can't do it now.
Can't do it? Do it.
But you also get, you also get to see our new cat, Momo.
He's in the video. So he'll probably pop up here
during the podcast today, like. Scratch that.
Probably scratch something. He's eating cords right now.
Don't eat cords. Don't eat cords.
But anyway, you meanwhile talk about the.
Reunion seating, So the seating chart, the ABS out.
Let's talk about, oh, I would love that.
The space of the scene in chart, which was, you know, whatever,
that's your choice. Bravo was to have on one side
Tamra, Gina, Heather and then Katie at the end.
And the other side was Jen, Emily, Shannon and Gretchen at
the end. So I thought that I thought that
Tamra and Katie would be together, but they were not.
And people were quite miffed. That she's at the end of the.
Yes, yeah, more than the myth, they really thought that she
would be either front of the couch at the first seat or
second seat. Yeah, no, I agree she should
have been bumped up a bit more. The only logic I can think of is
that she's not around for most of the season, right?
So she may not have a lot to talk about.
Yeah, they would go on the whole Amsterdam trip that's coming up.
And she just like, got, you know, pushed out and it sucks.
But so, you know, hopefully someone actually compared this
to when Drew got the last seat at the last Atlanta reunion.
And now she, you know, still did had a great reunion, probably
one of her best. And so maybe this will maybe
this, you know, made Katie, you know, fight more, right, Because
she really needed, I think fight for her position to come back
next week, next. Sorry.
Next week, I mean, yeah, yeah. Do you think Shannon will start
fighting for her position being at the end of the couch?
I don't know Shannon's love fight in her.
I think she really like got it all out last year when she was,
you know, first seat and like just, you know, so like fueled
by anger and John and Alexis, but I don't know she has it to
do so. Or really even much more
storyline going on. Like unless.
It makes sense why she I thought she would be like second seat.
It makes sense why she's at, you know, in seat.
And it would be in seat because Gretchen, fingers crossed, will
not be out there the entire time.
She. Yeah, I hope not so.
If Lexus couldn't be, then Gretchen should not be.
Although that's true, but although if on Miami, they're
all out there all the time. Well, the friends of Miami are
like a very special case. That's true.
They're like beyond friends, especially Marisol.
So yeah, the the ghost producer of Miami.
So yeah. Anyways, that was her choice.
I was wrong. Let's move on.
Sorry, that cat. What?
What is he doing? I hear noise like metal.
With the mic stand. I forgot the mic stand's over
there. OK, All right, Sorry.
We promised. The mic stand the mic, What do
we call that? Yeah, that's the thing that
these things used to be on. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's got it.
Got it, Got it. Yeah.
All right. But yeah, this episode, where
did it start? Every time gets me.
It was picking up from the party and yeah, it was basically it's
like a flash forward and then 24 hours earlier.
So basically it was a Katie meeting with Tamara.
Can we just get into a Katie meeting with Tamara?
I thought there'd be a lot. More to it, like they could have
had at least two more than one scene.
And it was just a lot of vagueness.
I have to imagine that we're going.
To refer back. To it later.
Text messages. Yes.
She mentioned because they had like there's a big tech text
message from Slade to Matt. I really saw part of it, I think
she mentioned. Some.
Camera or Katie did like way, way weeks ago, so they we'd see
more of that. Okay, so that's what I'd like to
see because there's way more that needs to be exposed, I
feel, with Gretchen and Slade. Yeah, like I feel like if Tamras
whole the thing was to go and find out what really happened.
Like, I don't feel satisfied that we got that information.
Yeah, because and also too, like we see in the in the flash four
that she's like what they like, like Katie telling her more
stuff. And I feel like that's going to
come out and I think it's just Tamara waiting to use it.
Yeah. And they'll flashback to the
conversation. And then she'll drop the bomb in
Amsterdam. See, I mean, I, I it's perfect.
Tamara. Yeah.
You know. Literally like the season ends
in. See, I'd much rather it not be a
big gotcha moment. I'd much rather it just be like,
no, this is what I found out. And then just have it be kind of
a, you know, I'm above it all, but Tamara is going to drop.
It at the minute there was how to like, yeah, be dramatic about
it, yes. And I think, yeah, doing another
trip because like we see in the trailer, there's a scene where,
like, Gretchen is like freaking out and like, crying or
attempting to cry because, you know, Yeah.
So I feel like. Because the Botox, what you mean
right? Yes, the fillers, I don't want
to talk about looks, but it's a lot of, there's not a lot of
movement. Absolutely saw yeah in that
scene. We'll get to with the bow.
Her wagon train. Left so yeah.
So look for it's the episode title.
It has to be like getting your covered wagon.
Yeah, yeah. So back to the Oregon Trail.
So yeah, so we need to see more of that.
I think we will. Tamra and Katie, let's get to
it. Do we need to see more of Jen
and Shannon and a dog psychic? No, hell to the no, as Turei
would say. I mean, I thought that like,
psychics were one thing. I mean, between Miami's whole
dog brothel and then now we have a dog psychic, I think that the
housewives ideas are running low.
Right, the activities. I would like a pet psychic, you
know, to know what, but I don't know if I would necessarily
bully. Well, the same way that, like,
you know, I wouldn't necessarily hire a tarot reader myself if I
was at like a holiday party and there was oh.
I did not like better tarot reader.
And he came back for another one of our party.
Oh, really? It was just lame.
Oh, yeah. It was like, oh, he's so great.
And I'm like, it was lame. I had to like, direct him like
no. But.
If you know the tarot, you should just be able to say like
this is happening, you're going to quit your job and find
something better. I'm just saying that if I were
at an event like with my dogs and they're having to be a pet
psychic there, then I'd be like, all right, let this is fun.
Like I don't have to go out of my way.
It's no skin off my back to go figure this out, you know?
Again, I'm we're taught this just speaking for two of us, I
believe we're tired of the Shannon shtick.
They're like, oh, oh, now you're oh, oh, you're crapped.
Oh oh. Oh, oh gosh, and I know did
they, oh gosh, did they need to show?
I don't need to see the dog poop.
We're eating cookies too. I was like thanks, I'm trying to
get my Milano a cookie and I'm seeing this dog crap.
Thanks, Bravo. No.
Anytime, Jeff says bravo. Oh my God, it was too much for
like 1 bag. That's why we don't have dogs.
Yeah, and that's why we have a little robot.
Yeah, I think, oh, we should get Little Robot to sponsor us.
Oh my God, we love little robot. We've converted so many people
to little robots. I mean, this is this is not a
paid advertisement, but if you are still scooping your litter
box, what the hell is wrong with?
You. That's so antiquated.
I mean, I know it costs a lot of money, but.
It's worth it. It'll pay it.
Itself back. It literally spins it all and
drops in a little basket and you take it out at the end of the
week. Yeah, it's great.
Yeah, we had friends who tried not to spend the money on it and
they got some other electrical like Tumblr of cat litter, and
all they said is it was like you got poop everywhere, like it
didn't work. So just save yourself.
Get the litter robot. It's great.
Litter Robot 4 because Litter Robot 3 is really loud.
You have to get like the latest one.
Yeah, silent. Oh, that should be coming soon.
I got the little the litter. Oh, it's mine.
What it is? It's so it's an attachment that
goes on the back of the little robot that dispenses litter into
the machine so that it never gets too low.
It's called a Hopper. Yeah just a hopper.
Love it so it's gonna wait it's gonna be good it's gonna be good
can't wait and then on top of that I we do we might need to
buy another one in general cuz the inside of our little robot's
really torn up but that's a whole different story so.
Of cars, little robots we come here to talk about.
Yeah, I'm wondering, well, I guess I would say, what if
they've ever tried to make a dog litter robot, but dogs don't
poop in litter. So they.
Know they would just have to have like a yard that turns
itself upside down. Basically it's like dog is left
and then spins and then pooped. But yeah, with us getting this
new cat, there's a whole like we also realized that.
So our our old cat Maeve, rest in peace and our older cat Gabs.
They were are really good cats. Like they don't knock stuff off
counters, they don't clot furniture.
They they are. Really.
They also were mature cats like when we got them like Maeve was
like 7 and Gabs was. Two but so Momo's 1:00-ish.
We don't know exactly but anyway, he's been clawing at
stuff and he's also really energetic kitten like behavior
still. So I realized today, and I told
Jeff when we had our Christmas tree, which we always do the day
after Thanksgiving, that cat's going to climb right up that
fucker, just right up the center of it.
And he's going to be swatting that, you know, the Christmas
balls, all that stuff. It's going to be a pain in the
ass and we. Have a lot of lovely ornaments
that we do not broke, broken. So we need to like have this
anchored and like deter him. There's a cat spray deterrent.
It doesn't work. I I mean none of that stuff
works. My mom used to spray that stuff
all over the house to make. Times have changed.
That was like in the 1900s. Oh, get out of here.
I'm going to read your IMDb. David Bedor Yes.
So no, that's just the thing. We're spoiled that we had very
well behaved cats. And so that was the other thing
is I've always toyed around with the idea of we should get a dog.
But then seeing Shannon Medor pick up a bunch of dog shit
makes me like, no, I'm not. I don't think we want a dog.
And Jim has so many dogs too, like.
It was interesting what she was saying, that some of the dogs
were hers, then Ryan had dog and now that one dog is the one they
got together. That was the missing piece of
the puzzle. Well, I mean, it's nice that
they had something together, you know, because I mean, she moved
into his house, I think. There are a lot of missing
pieces of that puzzle. I mean, I feel like yes, I think
that puzzle came missing a few pieces.
Old chips, a little broken, a little wilted.
Yeah. So was there anything else Jen
really did this episode other than towards?
Kiss. Kiss Gretchen's ass.
Shannon was always kissing Gretchen's ass.
We'll get to that. Well, see, that's what I was
thinking as well, talking about the reunion.
I mean, I think Gretchen, the Gretchen, the only thing Shannon
has her way back is to become the enemy of my enemy is my
friend, I think. But it's so, and she thinks
she's doing what Tamara did. But Tamara legit had a
friendship with Alexis. They were in a bad place.
They, you know, do you? Want to go check that out?
We can go. Just take a break.
I can edit this slip. Our cat just jumped down our
spiral staircase pretty damn far.
So is he OK? He's fine.
Did he land? Did he go all the way down to
the first floor? OK, All right, Our, everybody,
we, they can't hear you, but it's OK, We have a.
Sorry. So we have a spiral staircase up
to the loft which which every one of our friends with children
comes over here and says, dear God, that's a child death trap.
Our cats, you know, cats like to balance on things and play, you
know, Acrobat. And he just jumped from our
ledge to the spiral staircase and.
I thought he jumped down way further too.
The thing is, there's a gap between the ledge and the spiral
staircase that like you could fall and plummet.
But he was like, I can get, I can do this.
Luckily, cats just like us don't want to die, so they, they, you
know, survival instincts. I want to see the video of this
because I literally my jaw dropped and I just like did I
witness that? I've never seen that's like
almost as bad as like gabs. Well, he ran down the Christmas
tree. No, when she like jumped from.
Over here I'll get some the. Christmas tree was way scary
because I saw that happen. Yeah, I'll get some video of
what we're talking about so the listeners can reviewers can see
in the style staircase. Why is it different what
Shannon's doing? Shannon thought that she's doing
the same thing as oh, but. Oh, but because like it just she
would just be obviously Tamara did not befriend Alexis to hurt
Shannon, right? She just like naturally they
became friends. Whatever, they're still friends.
John Jansen and Alexis are still together.
It's not all about a plot against Shannon.
Believe they got married on a Friday.
Maybe that was the only day they could get the venue.
I mean, look, I don't love, I'm not kind of trying to be bitchy,
but like, I don't do a Friday wedding.
I mean, do a Friday wedding. Yeah, it's cheaper.
I know. Not that like we need to save
money, but. I don't know.
But like also like a Friday wedding just kind of says to
your guests that like, I don't really care if you make it or
not. Well, people have stuff that
they need to do on Fridays. They go to work and everything
that's like then they get them off work.
It's like, or you're going to expect half your friends to take
the entire day off work. Like whatever.
Like I guess if they're really your friends and you're getting
married, they do it. But it's also what, her third
wedding? Third marriage?
You're right, There's a Yeah. So I get in his probably second
or third so. 2nd. Maybe.
I mean, we felt very strongly, as many people do, about their
first wedding, so. Sure, but it was a big
production. It's like she had like an actual
like Kimosabe like situation as opposed to Emily's well like
arts and crafts. It does.
It does seem that like that cowboy hat that that apparently
there's a market of customized cowboy hats all over.
I wanted to have a party where there's like actually, no, I
don't need to do Western theme. I'm fine with the Western theme.
I don't need to do Western theme.
It's up there flappers now and like we're in 20s, let's just
let's find other things. Right.
So for. Like murder mystery.
I could. Have you ever actually done a
real murder mystery party? No.
Like I did one once. I want to say like the year
after I graduated high school with Kevin and some people over
to a party, and it was actually really fun.
However, it's every murder mystery party that I've ever
heard of. And this one in particular, the
way someone gets murdered is just incredibly unlikely.
And like, you have to just be like, oh, well, of course he
stepped into the bathroom and there's water on the floor and
there's a wire, of course. And there's things that you just
have to like make up or assume. It's always implausible.
So no one figured out who the hell got murder?
Half, I think. We're going down a rabbit hole,
we are. But let's.
Let's read you that. But yeah, in any event, yeah, I
Friday. Weddings.
Friday weddings, Shannon, whatever, whatever.
Camera's actually friends with Alexis.
Correct. That's the the main story, Yes.
The covered wagon scene, Yeah. So basically it's, you know,
it's juxtaposing Alexa. Sorry.
Woo. Gretchen meeting with Emily and
then Tamra and Gina and Heather, Heather, which I thought was a
good scene. But yeah, so basically the
Gretchen, Emily part of it, it's just like, you know, a man like
Tamra just can't take criticism. She can't be called out da, da,
da. And then it like, somehow, like,
somehow like, evolves into like, this is all your fault, says
Gretchen to Emily. And Emily, of course, is like,
Oh no, we will miss on the Prairie.
Yeah, I mean, I both Gretchen and I'm sorry, both Gina and
Emily are confusing the crap out of Maine because they're being
so wishy washy about what they're actually like, I guess
how they feel about Tamara, right?
Because Gina's over there sitting with Tamara and being
all like, oh, you know, I'm, yeah, I support you and oh, and
oh, oh. Gina was like, that's like, run
her a warm bath, right her hair and say it's OK, like.
But then turn around and agree with everyone about how Tamara
can't be trusted and about how Tamara overreacts and da da.
Da da, da. Well, in the flashbacks, like
Tamara in the Bush. Yeah, with Gina, someone is
hilarious. But too, it's like she's like it
clicked to me. You know, this is like just like
that time when you were in the Bush and like you're having a
bad year. And you know, I like the
sentiment of you're going through a lot and you're not in
your right mind necessarily, and so you're not at your best.
You're not your. Best, Yeah, I shouldn't say your
right mind. You're not your best.
And so like I don't want to pile on and I want to be there for
you. Even if I disagree with your
reactions, I understand that they're not.
They're not coming from nowhere. Is what like what I got from
what she No absolutely it. Just it, I mean, she definitely
like was practicing that in front of a mirror before she got
in the car to meet Tamara. So like she says to Travis.
Yeah, she was like, how does this?
Sound, honey. And went over it, which is fine
if that's that's clearly what she wants to convey and she
conveyed it well. It's just that I wish she would,
I don't know, be more consistent.
She's. Yeah, she's basically like I see
you spiraling and I want to help.
But yes, you're true, just true. She it should be more.
I don't know. I think just.
I think also. Where's that grace in the moment
Like she's she's giving it to Tamara when Tamara's like all
calm down. But in the moment she's just
piling on with everyone else is how they were realized.
But she's. Like you should go.
But really, that was a pad party though.
Yeah, so. But the fact they showed.
Those clips of of her she stayed behind true to like help out
Tamara. I'm like, you know, I want to
give you a hug. I appreciated Gina and what she
was doing and but yes, they it's it's a little back and forth
with both her and Emily in the verge right.
So the Emily. Side of things like she's
sitting there being all like like Tamara this Tamara's bad
duh duh, duh like I can't believe that you know but then I
I can't tell and I think I know the answer.
I can't tell where the line gets drawn is when Gretchen starts
saying that Tamara's making a bigger deal out of it than it is
That's when Emily is like no, but you're the one who brought
this all up you're the one who's doing well.
That was like. At the party I think the line it
got flipped around when Gretchen said this is your fault got good
but like she skipped backwards to you told Tamara what I said
about her the song and they start fighting about that she
meant that's what she was talking about because I.
I I think Emily got really, truly pissed off at Gretchen
when she was like, Gretchen was like, you know, I never brought
up any of this and but you did. Yeah, and Emily was like but.
You did. I heard you with my own ears.
You had stopped. Yourself as she made a song
where she sounded like crap, that'd be one thing.
But then you segue to she screwed said guy from said boy
band and you know, we can call Slade.
He'd back me up. And then you, like, flipped it.
No, no, That was all Slade. Yeah, like you forget there's a
camera from your face. Yeah.
The one you've wanted so much for so long to get back on the
show. Yeah.
Remember, it's there. It's capturing everything you're
saying. I really do.
Like Emily, when she's, I don't know, I think when she's being
at our breaking. Point and telling you to go back
here. No getting your converted wagon.
I do like it when Emily. Gets called out and she.
Yeah, she does get really, really sharp and feisty, like,
you know, the last season with Alexis Blino.
Laurie, what are you even doing here?
You're just a friend. She.
I. That was the best.
But then I liked what she said about Gretchen.
Go back to your covered wagon. Because she did.
I mean, that was quite an outfit.
And then even Gretchen's explanation of like, I just like
girly things and. Well, OK, whatever, ma'am.
Yeah, whatever. Yeah, I just wish that Gretchen
or I'm sorry, I wish that Emily was a little bit more authentic
or consistent with her authenticity.
The same way I about about Gina. It's just she seems to be like
when Tamara's around, she's very pro Tamara.
When Tamara's not around, she's very like, Tamara's a problem.
Well, how do you feel then? About how Heather reacts,
especially in the scene, which I felt was they didn't get to,
they didn't get anywhere when she meets.
Gina and them. Yeah.
Like she tries to express
herself. And the Tamara kind of shuts her
down. And then they just like, you
know, stop talking about it, I feel.
Like, I don't know, I felt like Tamara, even though she shut it
down like was let's heard what Heather was saying of like I did
explain this to you before. You didn't want to hear it.
And then like, oh, you're being condescending and I I think I
know. Well, that's just.
That's just Heathers voice, yeah.
Yeah, but I, I think I think they're going to be fine in a
good place. And, and I think Gina being
there to kind of say, you know, Heather really cares about you.
You guys are actually friends. It's also interesting to hear
them say like you guys are actually friends beyond this
reality. Show.
But I also understand what Tamara's saying.
You know, You said you're afraid of me.
You said that you don't trust me.
Then why are we even friends? Are we just show friends?
Are we real friends and I wonder?
Like if she were to have the conversation, you know, that's
what Shannon did to me. You know, we were friends until
I wasn't on the show anymore, and then and then behoove her.
Right, to be friends with me then.
She wasn't. Yeah.
So. That'd be interesting to hear.
Yeah, I feel like we should. Well, we've mentioned Emily is
go mention the Innocence Project.
I think it's a great. Project.
I think this the stats on that are just horrible.
Absolutely, you know, and I think doing, you know, what she
can to help and raising that money for that, for that man to
like, you know, better himself and help his family.
I think that was great and that they raised the money and it was
actual, you know, sometimes you just throw out like charity and
you know, see like where it's going, the money, it's just
like, oh, it's it's for whatever.
And this is like, no, this is what he needs in order to go to
school. And I thought it was.
I thought it was great, I feel. And we can cut this out if you
want to. I feel like a little confused by
it because we hear all the time that Emily is very conservative
and leans very, you know, conservative politically.
But yet here she is talking about, you know, how the
criminal justice system is screwed up and how all these
people are innocent. You know that she said like 4 to
5%. You know, those are statistics
of people in jail. Are there wrongly?
And so it just doesn't seem, it doesn't feel to me like a very
conservative sort of talking point to say that the people
that are in jail don't belong there.
You know what I mean, right? It's very.
Interesting and. Then also the fact that like
that's not something that if she truly is conservative and votes
for a conservative, you know, administration, that that's
something that they would all be at all be prioritized, they're
going to say. You know who's in jail belongs
in jail. That's that's they have that
salute, they have that. Whole thing of like, well, you
must have been doing something wrong if you got arrested, you
know, that whole thing. So it's just interesting to me
that no, I hadn't thought about that.
Yeah, yeah. So.
But yeah. You can't speak in absolutes
like not everyone who is in prison deserves to be there,
right? Things happen and you know,
evidence gets lost or it's used against someone who shouldn't
and it's just it's not so black and white and right, you know, I
just. And yeah, the.
Same way conservatism and liberalism isn't all black and
white and everything. So I mean you two things can be
true at the same time etcetera. It's an.
Interesting point of view. Yeah, you know the other thing I
thought. About it, when they had the two
guys over to her house to kind of talk and get some data points
or whatever. It was kind of awkward watching
Emily talk. It reminded me of Luann giving
those girls makeovers. Wasn't that Luann?
Yeah. How do you know?
That that was like season 1. No, no, no.
She. Had brought him back like in
towards the end of old New York. Oh.
Couple I think I'm thinking of like when she met with like the
children and yeah, there was. One where it was like what?
It was like this. Underprivileged.
Youth, they, they need makeovers.
And so it was like completely Luann being like, no, I think it
was. Like in the vein of like, you
know, women who need they've been, oh, they were home.
They were or in the. Shelters.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 'cause it it was.
It was Lu Ann because. Lu was just a little oblivious
in the way like Lu Ann would talk about it and be like, well,
like it was almost like, no, your problems are solved.
I gave you a makeover and it was like, no, I can get a job.
And like, get an apartment and I feel like Emily.
Was doing her best to navigate the conversation, but I think
there are a few things where she was making it like when she
said, you know, knowing that you went through this, like it makes
me feel like all my problems are nothing and right.
Oh, so inspiring to you. That could have been.
Worded better. Yeah, ma'am.
So it did. Yeah, it.
Just kind of made me feel like OK, but again, I mean, good on
her though. Exactly.
Yes, No, it's a good thing to be involved with.
Yes, which then we get. To the whole charity Hoedown,
not a yeehaw, A Hoedown. And I'm glad they actually, they
raised the money and that wasn't, you know, that was
separate from the drama that played out.
What do you like about Gina? Like giving the 5000 and then
like when Terry Dubrow walks up. What is the layers like?
Can a bitch have a moment? 'Cause that's just a genuine
like, oh great, he's gonna walk up and be like like do the whole
Kenya thing like, oh, 25,000 right, I forgot that Kenya.
'Cause didn't she do that? Just like, oh, how much we're
trying to raise. Oh, I'll give that.
You know, it was at someone. 'S yeah, like party and yeah
yeah, yeah, anyway. Like the thing Scott remembers.
I know. Well, so we just like Terry, say
like, oh, you're 50,000 for the Trevor Project, right?
Which also also great, 'cause I'm glad that they showed that
that was good too. But no, I you're right about
that. Though that that scene with
everyone there at the ice cream shop or whatever, the cookie
shop that could have been filmed whenever.
Well, no, because we. Actually, we saw like a scene
later on where Emily and Tam are talking and she says I met with
Katie. Oh, so it did happen around the
same time because I was like, it seems weird.
I just felt like maybe. They threw that in there because
like, well, this would be a good spot to put Heather's, you know,
charitable, right? Isn't it like a?
Charity, but no, it actually happened around that same time.
Yeah, it was like all. The same week.
It was a very busy week for them.
Very. Yeah.
So yes, the the Hee Haw Ho Downs, which was going.
Fine, you know, until Gretchen and Slade showed up.
Of course they showed up last. And as I mean, if, if God, what?
If Jen and. Ryan are like cowboy Barbie and
Ken like what are Gretchen and Slade like Midge and would
skipper. And the other Ken?
There, Yeah, like Ken's only named Ken, There's no other
names. Like there was Mage, there was
Skipper. Skipper.
That was where it. Gave me did you say?
Skipper, skipper Hey skipper. So.
Yeah, I, I want, yeah, I, I not a big person on theme parties in
general. And then the amount of costume
they were. I like what Shannon wore to
that. I mean, if you're going to go
into it, that's over the top. Oh, I'm sorry.
Shannon, now we can get to it. And she's obsessed with you,
Gretchen. No, Tamra is not obsessed with
Gretchen. Shannon, stop trying to fit the
narrative that it works for you. Just be like, I hate Tamra and
move on. Like this.
Little like, or the whole like we're supposed to like, you
know, acting. Everything's normal.
And then she quit again. Yeah, you are.
Because she's one of the stars of the show.
Yeah. How many times did you watch?
Yeah. Also don't act like.
You haven't gone out like that. You were like all up in.
Video village like crying Shannon like just stifle.
Keep it quiet, so. Yes, they were ones like,
they're trying to like, you know, mind their business.
And then being Tamara and Eddie, like, we'll be on the side of
the room. And then like Jen Hass, like
Tamara met with Katie. It was about Slade.
Oh, go get her. None of that made.
Sense to me I mean clearly once more you know it's obvious
Gretchen was drunk like she drank quite a not quite a bit,
but yeah and so she was feeling a little liquid courage and was
like ready to confront her. But then even all the reasoning
of like, you know, oh, I need to bring, you know, Slade with me.
It's like, First off, Slade is not on the show.
Do not he's not a friend of. He's your life partner, yes,
he's miked, yes he's invited to this, but like he, we know that
he and Tamara are like oil and water, so why are you trying to
make this happen besides that? The whole thing Tamara has no
incentive to make right with him, Marian, he's not part of
the show she tried to make right with.
You and you like and this is what you keep.
Doing so like you know you need to.
You need to make your relationship with Tamara work,
and you need to quit blaming your life partner and quit
blaming other people and take accountability for what you're
doing, what you're trying to do. And she won't.
She won't and also like you don't need to all be good
because there's no way in hell that Tamara and Eddie and
Gretchen is later going to have like a couple's nights.
So it's just like as Co workers you and Tamara have to get along
but you keep messing that up intentionally because you are
obsessed with Tamara and you keep wanting to throw these
daggers. And then you're like.
No, like why is, you know, like it's a lot of.
Gaslighting of of Tamara's behavior, not the camera doesn't
have questionable behavior. It's just that, like, it's not,
I don't see, I can't see the way Tamara's acting meshing up with
the story that Gretchen is trying to tell, No.
And. It's and the times that Tamara.
Has reacted to Gretchen. It seemed warranted, you know,
overreactions. Little reaction but.
Warranted, but. Like if someone is saying.
That I was having an affair. And then like, then you're all
saying like, I know so much about you, right?
What do you think she's gonna do?
Be like, no, please don't Gretchen.
Anything not be nice. Ohh, I wonder.
I wonder. What would happen if Tamara
tried to actually just kind of kill Gretchen with kindness and
just be like, and not in a mocking way, but like, be like,
you're OK, You're right. I'm a horrible.
I'm a horrible person. I'm very sorry.
Did it, You know, like what? Gretchen would be standing there
with her jaw half open. Like what?
Huh. No, she wrote with Evan now.
She's mocking me now. She's like, you know, not being
real. It's they're not going to ever
wake each other, so they just need to stop and by Yeah.
And I. Think the reason that is, is as
much as there's, I'm sure you know, BS on both sides.
I think Tamara's BS is more rooted in truth than Gretchen's.
And so that's why they're never going to work, because Gretchen
continues to insist that her truth is the real truth, which
it's not, and she's holding on to.
Truth from years and years ago that you know no one cares about
it. Like you and Slater.
Than the ones who care about this beef and it's old.
It's like it's the beef from like Jen.
Jen cares. Because she, you know, doesn't
have any. Because it suits her exactly.
Because it suits her narrative. Again, they all belong on the
same couch. Good, good.
You make it seem like. One couch is beautiful and the
other one's shitty. You all belong on the same
couch, not a wayfarer. Couch, not a couch.
Here to find a Bravo comment. But it might have a radial couch
I. What do you think about Tamara
calling Gretchen trash? Is it wasn't that didn't that
create problem on another franchise referring to someone
as trash? I feel like there's so.
Many people have been called trash I know, but maybe it was
Potomac. Where?
Candace called someone trash. Candace is probably gone A.
Lot of people trash. But I remember some one of the
times it was a problem and so like I, I feel like maybe it was
just like at the time, like, you know, the I'm.
Yeah, I'm not going to call names.
I just think that they just act horribly and I don't understand
their objective and they just are going about everything in
the wrong way on the show, Gretchen and Slade so and they
just, they showed their asses by like running after Tamra and
saying like, run, bitch, run. Like Allah, Forrest Gump, like
you just looked horrible. You're shouting out this charity
event and you're drunk and you are the messy one.
And then when she flipped out on Emily, the wrong person to flip
out on girl, like she'll just swat you like a cat.
It's just no, what are you doing?
What are you doing, Gretchen? And I'm shocked that they're all
going to end up like, on the same group trip, you know,
without Katie. Without Katie, they wanted.
To go, but they wouldn't let her go.
That's so dumb. Yeah.
I think so, yeah. It was a good episode.
It was. Yeah, it was a good episode.
We've talked about everyone talked about the reunion.
Yeah, we talked about how. Wrong.
You were about the seating charts.
So God, I can't believe I'm married to you.
I'm not changing. It what I have here is like it
should be the correct order. Yeah, I'm not changing it.
Yeah, I mean, there's so. Many thumbtacks that need to
move but. You know what?
If you can't be a star at the at the front of the couch, you
should be a star at the end of the couch and and B.
Davis as Alice. That's how it works, right?
It's the and be the and be. The good and I love that I
showed you that Katie posted that picture of the gutter and
there's like my home for today shooting the reunion.
Yes, go to the gutter, Katie. I wonder.
She did. I wonder.
How well tastefully the gutter, you know.
Well, I think you know just. Like, I'm not going to take your
crap scorched earth. Is what scorched earth it needs
to be like? Well, if this is my one and only
chance to get the truth out there, I'm getting it out there.
I'm not holding any punches. I'm going to make sure that like
everything that needs to be said is said yes.
I'm into. That I wonder if they moved her.
Like away from Tamara. So they like Tamara couldn't be
like, you know, whispering things like no, no, no, we can't
do that. No, that could be.
Like coaching her. Which, you know, she's got AI
hope she flies on her own and she does a great job.
I would want her to come back and you know, I would be People
will be quite upset if she doesn't come back.
I was gonna say like a. Lot just the comments on that
Bravo's post about seating chart.
People were so upset. She's at the end of the day.
And like, yeah, yeah, people were not having it.
I. I mean I never believe people in
their they're like if that happens, I'll never watch the
show again yeah, you're gonna watch the show.
I mean there's people this already like this season's been
so bad I stopped watching It's like yet you're still following
right on Instagram, OK, or you hate watch.
I mean some. People just say like I get all
my information from because I'm not watching the show so I get
it from Instagram or Reddit whatever.
I believe that they should be getting it from husbands.
Watching Housewives? Just let's do our recap.
Yeah, you. Don't need to watch.
Yeah, you don't. I mean, you should watch.
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But if you're not going. To watch the show and you just
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We give you the non recap. Recap and you feel like OK at
all we go through all the. Women and make sure you know how
we feel about them, yes. And we don't feel good about.
Gretchen. I don't I really don't I I I
just don't. So if you had.
To pick a favorite of the episode, who would you pick?
A favorite person? Yeah.
Who? Who's VP?
Yeah, who is your? MVP of this episode I.
Mean it's always, not always because sometimes I'm like girl,
but typically it's Tamra. So I think it might have seemed
like, as Kretchen was trying to say, if you're running away from
something that means you're guilty.
No, it means that you're moving yourself in the situation so you
don't commit homicide. That's a good thing.
That's gross. Yeah, Yeah, that's just.
I think they're leaving. The situation with Eddie and
just being like, I don't need that.
You know, she's not quitting. You shouldn't say that she'd
quit, right? So I think, you know, for that
you're not quitting. And it's not like she left.
The party early like all of the stuff that already happened
right you know it was sure she'd.
Donated, right, You know, and she's like, now we now it's time
to go. Home.
I'm glad they didn't show Eddie flipping the bird in the actual
episode they've had her talk about.
It yeah, which just makes sense, but I'm sure.
In the extended Peacock version, it'll be there or whatever.
Oh, there you go. So.
It'll be there for. Them like double.
Or. Hear you my MVPI think was Emily
in this episode. Oh, Emily's, Yeah.
Because again, I. I, I, it gives me hope when
she's not totally kissing Gretchen's Gretcher's ass, like
when she's, when she's able to turn kissing, I think.
It's just like I'm getting along with my Co worker.
Yeah, but like. There's been a lot of times
where I think she's kind of swallowed the truth just to let
Gretchen get her narrative across.
And I I'm liking when she like is standing up to her a little
bit even though if she walks out and comes back in 5 minutes
later like we learned in that one scene.
So but yeah, no. I think she had a strong
showing. I agree, definitely.
Well, I think. Well, we covered everything.
Do we have anything else we want to talk about or should we talk
about it next time? I think until next time all.
Right.