1 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,680 Welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. 2 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:19,960 I'm Scott. And I'm Joe. 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,600 And we just watched the season 19 premiere 19 of The Real 4 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,720 Housewives of Orange County yes. How is it that I know there's 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:29,600 the season number and like I just. 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,360 I know well, I was on the screen every time we like that's. 7 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,760 True like. Fast forwarded or pause I. 8 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:38,120 Also, I also looked it up because I had to get the artwork 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,480 for editing this episode together. 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:41,880 So like, I need a Season 19 thing. 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:44,000 And yeah, so I got it. I made sure. 12 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:45,920 But also I thought they were making a big deal, that it was 13 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,240 like the 20th season. It's 20. 14 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,200 There's gonna. Yeah, yeah. 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,360 Weird like that it's like 20 years but like it's only been 19 16 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:56,680 seasons. I guess that's because they 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,560 cross years. Sometimes I don't know. 18 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,000 I don't. Oh, right. 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Yeah, it's like 3 years. And they also had like had a 20 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,319 little bit of a pause with those. 21 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,200 I don't know. But it's not, it's not one of 22 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,000 the ones where I'm like, I know every single season because I've 23 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,360 been, I've not been watching every single season and I'm like 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,160 Beverly Hills or Atlanta or whatever. 25 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:18,200 True. Anyways, OC, excellent season 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:19,720 premiere. Yeah, it was a very good season 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,400 premiere. I, I was a little nervous about 28 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:28,200 watching this after we started watching Miami because Miami 29 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:32,160 where we don't have any sort of basis or any horse in the game 30 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:35,920 or whatever, dog in the race, whatever the expression is like 31 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,200 this one. I feel like, oh, well, we know 32 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,080 who the players are and they haven't changed. 33 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,840 So they're like a new, There's no new wife, there's no one. 34 00:01:43,960 --> 00:01:46,040 Well, there's a new well friend. Come along. 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,560 But but still like this episode at least and I don't even when 36 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,000 does she come in. I don't even know. 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:53,520 I'm glad. I'm glad it wasn't this episode. 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Yeah, yeah. But like, there's no one new, 39 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,240 there's no Alexis this season like right off the bat to get 40 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,640 things kicked off. So it's pretty much picking up 41 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:04,120 where we left off from last season. 42 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,040 So there's nothing really truly unexpected. 43 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,919 So I didn't know how I would feel like I felt like I needed 44 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,120 to be more on top of it than I am with Miami because Miami I 45 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,520 can just sit back and watch and be like, OK, this is cool. 46 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,480 All right, Alexia Dido and then no. 47 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,000 And Marisol said that. But this I feel like I should 48 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,800 have more opinions and I don't really. 49 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,040 No, I have thoughts. Yeah. 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:31,200 I feel like, like you're saying I feel more connected to the 51 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,800 show and to these women. And like, you know, one of my 52 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,440 favorites is on the show. And so I was more anxious about 53 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:41,280 like, oh, because I I care more about them and I know them 54 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,080 better. And so it just, yeah, it made 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,680 me, I mean, I was already like a little anxious today in general. 56 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:50,960 So, but like, I was like really excited about it. 57 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,160 I'm, you know, still like, have enthusiasm and yeah. 58 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,240 I just feel like because we know who they are, we should have be 59 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,120 able to be a little bit more insightful about it. 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,680 But you know, when it comes down to it, it's still Housewives 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,920 show but. We have insight. 62 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:06,480 We were talking about it a bit during the commercials. 63 00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:08,880 Be insightful. No, we have to like, we're not 64 00:03:08,920 --> 00:03:11,240 here to break the mold. It's like offering, you know, we 65 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,000 know what we do. We offer opinions we have, you 66 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:14,800 know. Yeah, I'm not. 67 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,400 I'm not trying. So you know a lot. 68 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:19,960 You know, like you. Know it's like my new like calm 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:25,680 it down so. My MY1 take away and I I know 70 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:27,680 I'm be proven wrong that's why I don't want to say it. 71 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,240 I feel really bad for Katie. I don't know why I feel so bad 72 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,960 like it feels like a pile on and it just feels like I don't know 73 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:40,600 when when Katie explains her actions, at least the ones we've 74 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:44,960 seen so far, it seems logical. Let like this person reached out 75 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,880 to me and they said that they had the same experience. 76 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:52,160 And so like I wanted to back up my kid who is being attacked so 77 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,680 I directed her to the right place to do that. 78 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,320 But the more and more I see it happening, even by the end of 79 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:03,800 this episode, I just feel like Katie isn't she's a little too 80 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,080 stoic. Like she's like, it's as though 81 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:12,000 she knows something is that her behavior isn't right or that 82 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,800 she's trying just something doesn't feel right. 83 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,880 But at the same time, the women, I think they're really coming 84 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,120 after her heart and with or without reason, I don't know. 85 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,040 Gina is definitely putting herself in the middle of it all 86 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:31,200 for I guess assuring herself another season. 87 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,160 I don't know, it seems a little early to be playing that game, 88 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,760 but like Gina's being in the middle of all this and I don't 89 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,520 understand why. Because Gina brought her on and 90 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:45,640 so I feel she feels responsible for the havoc she has. 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,200 Not like with the whole idea of, you know, she's my friend. 92 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,440 They weren't like really close friends, but she was connected 93 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,920 to her. I'm so used to there, I'm so 94 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,200 used to there being that whole just being BS that like, oh, we 95 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,280 brought, I brought her on. She's my friend, no. 96 00:05:02,280 --> 00:05:07,760 Let me finish the thought. She's connected to her, SO it's 97 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,040 like you were associated with this person. 98 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:12,600 It's something to do with like the BS of like she was my 99 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,520 friend. I met her and like mom and mommy 100 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,280 and me. That's bullshit. 101 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:21,200 It's more so you brought this havoc into the friend group and 102 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,280 now I'm pissed at you. Especially when she started 103 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:26,160 saying things that oh, but Heather said that Katie told me 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:29,120 that you're only friends with me because you want my real estate 105 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,360 contacts. So and also because Katie is 106 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,920 hurting her best friend Emily. Gina especially is going to get 107 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,560 involved because it Emily matters to her. 108 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:43,520 Yeah. So think that's why she's so 109 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,960 she's really pissed off on behalf of herself and also on 110 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:52,120 because of her best friend. If Katie was targeting mainly 111 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,560 Tamra, it wouldn't not the Gina doesn't like Tamra. 112 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,320 It just wouldn't be the same situation. 113 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,760 But you come from her best friend who's going through a 114 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:05,720 difficult period in when you know with her kid, then it's 115 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:09,400 going to amp her out because as we saw in the flashbacks, Gina 116 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,440 has been there. So that's why I think she's so 117 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:15,840 fired up about it. My feeling is I do not like a 118 00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:18,520 pylon. It's very uncomfortable to watch 119 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:22,440 one person be singled out that way. 120 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:28,280 And I'm sure it's a possibility that we it will be proven that 121 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:32,240 she is a liar because things aren't adding up. 122 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,480 And it's beyond even like, you know, I'm looking correctly at 123 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:40,000 Drew over here, Drew's lies as well. 124 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,040 But it's they're harmless, you know? 125 00:06:42,280 --> 00:06:44,640 Or white lies. Yes, I'm I'm cousins with 126 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Michael Jordan. Katie is spinning and spinning 127 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,960 and spinning. And I said to you, I said this 128 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,440 to you. She's getting in over her head 129 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:56,320 and she's drowning and the spinning and the lies. 130 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,560 And I don't think she's a bad person. 131 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,280 I don't think it's being malicious. 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,320 I don't quite know her motives. I don't think that that's, and 133 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,240 that's it. It's just she's really dug 134 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,320 herself in deep. And I don't blame them for not 135 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,120 trusting her, you know, so, but I do. 136 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,080 It's for me, it's just uncomfortable to watch. 137 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,920 And I, you know, I'm not. Yeah. 138 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:20,360 It's just I like it. I feel like when Emily and Gina 139 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:23,760 sat down with her and I did like, like that ambush moment of 140 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,360 it where even Katie was like, whoa, hey, I was not expecting. 141 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,720 Any professional she's like what the F Gina? 142 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,040 But Gina was right. Like it would have given her 143 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,600 time to prepare and everything. But I, I do feel, I don't know, 144 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:42,680 I feel like Emily and Katie kind of agreed that like even after 145 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,440 Jen's party, that was like, hey, you brought my kid into it. 146 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,520 So I was pissed off. You broke that by bringing up my 147 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,720 kids at the reunion. I was pissed off. 148 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:53,520 And even Emily was like, that's fine, but that's not how you go 149 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,080 about doing it. So it seems like they're almost 150 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:59,440 upset with Katie for not abiding by these unwritten rules of 151 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,280 being a housewife. Yeah, I feel like they made 152 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,880 peace at the finale party and then they started watching the 153 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,000 episodes back and things started coming out and whatever, 154 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,720 whatever, whatever. And then we said it last year, 155 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:19,600 last year, last year, Emily came in loaded for bear at Katie and 156 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:24,800 the things that she dug up about her and her custody issues and 157 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:29,240 whatever didn't it's like it didn't. 158 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,840 She should have done it. Yeah, yes. 159 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,159 It's going so low when it has nothing to do with your point. 160 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,440 The point should just be you lied about what my boy said 161 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:42,000 about Heather not and why did you lose custody of your kids? 162 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:45,320 It's that tit for tat makes you you're bringing it down to her 163 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,120 level. Just if you're in the truth, I 164 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,200 always say this, live in your truth, be in the truth. 165 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,920 It's just it's the truth. You don't need to like to dig so 166 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,920 deep and ruin someone and I so it's two things. 167 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,040 Emily shouldn't have done that with Katie, but Katie shouldn't 168 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,960 have directed the nanny, the ex nanny to the podcast and 169 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:12,520 basically decided to hear let me CC you on this e-mail. 170 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,440 You're connected. I agree, but I also, I don't 171 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:20,400 know part of me, and it's a very small part of me kind of is 172 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,600 rooting for Katie in that. It's only that, Oh, I'm sorry, 173 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:28,760 I'm not housewifing the way that you want me to housewife. 174 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,640 I'm housewifing my own way and that is by being a little extra 175 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,880 dirty in like exposing all this bullshit behind the scenes in an 176 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,840 Internet by being real of. What bullshit is she really 177 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,520 exposing? That well, then Emily's trying 178 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,440 to hide the fact that this actually happened, that like 179 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,520 this, that Katie's daughter didn't make this up, that her 180 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,240 kids did say this. The nanny is saying that this 181 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:56,840 happened. I think there could be reason 182 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,720 why that nanny is an ex nanny. Well, that's also true too, 183 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:01,920 yeah. But I don't think it would be 184 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,240 one thing if there was bullshit to expose. 185 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:09,200 I haven't seen that, so I can't be on Katie's side with that. 186 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:13,280 I think she should have just left it at I was pissed. 187 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,600 So I got revenge on you by directing your ex nanny to a 188 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,440 podcast so she could talk horribly about you just be a 189 00:10:21,560 --> 00:10:22,640 just own that. Yeah. 190 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,640 As far as the Tamra stuff of I can, I don't know why I never 191 00:10:27,640 --> 00:10:29,440 spoke to that person. I don't know their name. 192 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:32,760 But then I know these bloggers names and it's just she's too. 193 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:38,040 This is also a problem. She's too entrenched in the 194 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,320 outside of housewives. Yeah, yeah. 195 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,840 Working with bloggers, going on podcasts, what have you. 196 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:48,440 You just need to the show should be the show. 197 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,840 And you adding drama and pulling it from social media and 198 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,840 bloggers, it just gets it so dirty and muddled. 199 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,520 And I don't want to see that. I just want to say you have a 200 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,280 beef with Emily because of XYZ with Heather, XYZ not. 201 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:07,000 And then I spun some shit with a podcaster and a Blogger and, you 202 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,880 know, I got I'm Dming people. She's just too deep in it. 203 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,760 Yeah. And she's drowning herself. 204 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:14,160 It's it's not. Good. 205 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,240 She got her Housewife Season 1 orientation from the entire cast 206 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:18,480 of New Jersey. Yeah. 207 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,520 So it was directly from, yeah. From Jenny Jazz, yeah. 208 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,680 But no, I mean Margaret too. She's healthy as well there. 209 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:26,760 You're right. That's very. 210 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,280 That's a very. Very. 211 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,000 She's not, she's still, she's not housewiving, right? 212 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,360 She's just not. There's one thing to be said 213 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:36,520 about doing it your own way. There's another way about 214 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:39,400 There's another thing to be said about doing it the dumb way, and 215 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:40,680 she's not doing it in a smart way. 216 00:11:40,680 --> 00:11:43,520 I I, I agree with you there. I guess what I'm trying to say, 217 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:47,880 though, is that like, there's a very nuanced difference between 218 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:52,440 the way Emily's talk talking trash and making her look bad. 219 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,480 And it's in the way that Katie's chosen to go about it. 220 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:00,040 But they're both, at the end of the day, really low. 221 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:05,000 And so why, like to pick nits and like, make all these, you 222 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,000 know, nuances about, oh, well, you went low in a way that we 223 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,960 just agreed we don't go low. No, you went low, so I went low 224 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,160 with you. But anytime it involves kids, 225 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,480 like on both ends, like I said, it's just you just. 226 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,520 But you get what I'm saying? I told you what you were saying. 227 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,280 Yes. Yeah. 228 00:12:21,560 --> 00:12:25,080 So. But I can, yeah, I feel bad, but 229 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:28,560 I'm also like, I'm feeling bad from a distance because I think 230 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:31,720 this is really going to blow up even further into her face. 231 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:33,680 OK, Bette Midler, from a distance. 232 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,600 From a distance. From a distance. 233 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,280 Katie looked like my. Friend, God is watching you, 234 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,440 Katie, God is watching you from a distance. 235 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:52,960 So. We started out, oh, it was the 236 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,720 Katie. Oh, it was, wasn't it? 237 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,480 It was Katie and Shannon going shopping. 238 00:12:58,880 --> 00:12:59,760 Cars. Car. 239 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,920 I didn't understand that too. I have 5-6 years and I want 240 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,280 another one. You mean? 241 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,320 Since she had them in the past is what she was saying. 242 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,040 Got it. So she keeps getting another 243 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,080 one. She keeps updating it. 244 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:13,760 Not she has a fleet of BMW news. I don't think so. 245 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:17,160 OK, I all I know is I definitely want to make sure our next 246 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,040 dramatic like breakdown of what's going on in our friend's 247 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:23,520 life is is done at a car dealership like. 248 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,120 I'm sure too, She and Shannon probably took some pictures for 249 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,000 social media and you know, I they sure they like. 250 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Come down to Donaldson BMW where the housewives fight, whatever. 251 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,600 The While We're Here, I thought we could talk about Emily, 252 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:43,600 because what is that car door? Where I mean where they must be 253 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,760 really running out of like destinations to be all like, 254 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,120 hey, I'm going to get my I need someone to fill the air in my 255 00:13:49,120 --> 00:13:50,800 tires. How about we go to the BMW 256 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,040 dealership? Let me call service ma'am. 257 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,040 Also to hear a grown woman be like, is there someone who can 258 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,880 put air in my tires? Like, yeah, it's called you go 259 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:06,560 to or go to the TikTok shop and get that thing that I felt 260 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:11,280 scandal for and. Is has had Earl like left her 261 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,200 life by then. Probably. 262 00:14:13,680 --> 00:14:15,440 Was it Earl? Yeah, Earl, even still involved. 263 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,480 With they visited each other and then they just grew apart. 264 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,840 That was the the ending of Love Hotel. 265 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,880 What was the timing with relation to the filming, do you 266 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,760 know? Had to be before. 267 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:26,640 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. 268 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,680 I think she probably went to Love Hotel straight after the 269 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:32,040 reunion and then. Oh, yeah, Yeah. 270 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,240 So Earl never taught her how to put air in her tires. 271 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:36,960 Yes, I've told you this in the past. 272 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:42,400 I in high school, this girl was dating a friend of mine and she 273 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:46,440 said and she I can't do her voice. 274 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,560 So that like making it extra no, even though she's not that 275 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:53,120 whiny, but she's like, she was just all like, oh, at lunch 276 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,960 today, will you teach me how to pump gas? 277 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,520 And I was like, are you kidding me? 278 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,040 Teach you how to pump gas? Like if we were from like Oregon 279 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,040 or New Jersey, where you weren't allowed to do that, fine. 280 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:06,400 We're from California, do you not? 281 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:07,200 Look. Oh do. 282 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,800 You not look at your parents when they do it, OK? 283 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,600 You go out there, you open the thing, you put like, it's not 284 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,600 that hard. Can you pump your own gas in 285 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,760 Jersey? Jersey was one of the states. 286 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,000 I don't know if they still can. I know the pandemic changed a 287 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,400 lot of that for Oregon and Jersey. 288 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:21,600 Right, I would be and it. Might have just been certain 289 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:23,840 counties in New Jersey that wouldn't allow you to do it. 290 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:26,680 I don't remember the details, but yeah, it was always a trick 291 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:28,680 going to Oregon for work where I was like, oh, right. 292 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,680 I I'd be wait, I'd be late for the airport and like I gotta 293 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,760 wait for this guy to pump my gas. 294 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,360 I feel like, yeah, I've seen that before. 295 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:40,640 Maybe when we were in Portland, yeah, way back when, 2018. 296 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Yeah, they definitely had to pump our gas then. 297 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,320 But anyway, yeah, not knowing to put air in your tires, MRR, I 298 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,040 mean, not had put the right amount of air, that's excusable, 299 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:50,760 but you should at least be able to put air in your tires. 300 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,680 It's pretty standard ugly. So. 301 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaking of air, Gina connected with the wind. 302 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,120 What was that even did? She paint with all her colors of 303 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,080 the she may. Have that. 304 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,440 She liked the wind. Did. 305 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:07,360 Was she blowing kisses in the wind? 306 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,600 So many winds. So where did she connect with 307 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,440 the wind she would abolish? She went to Bali. 308 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,400 Why? Did she abolish? 309 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:16,560 Probably to think and you know, she was in turmoil last season. 310 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,600 I'm not making fun of it because there was a lot of shit going 311 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,680 down with traps. His ex making them past it but 312 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,080 now OK. Did you and I both not gasp? 313 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,680 We let out the gayest gasp ever when we were like, and then we 314 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:30,120 decided to move back in together. 315 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,360 We're not going to go. What do you mean? 316 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,040 Yeah, like after everything you put us through last season. 317 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,720 You put us through. You had to get away. 318 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,000 You had to separate for your children because of the toxicity 319 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,840 of Travis's ex so that you couldn't be together or live 320 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:48,800 together, and now you're living together. 321 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,800 And you renovated your kids room to give them more space and then 322 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,680 you move them. And then you left. 323 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,400 I know you're a real estate agent, but come on. 324 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:58,320 I mean, I actually. I like eat the backsplash in her 325 00:16:58,360 --> 00:16:58,880 ass. Very. 326 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,200 Nice. Yeah, it was very nice. 327 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,880 I have to say I'm very happy for her. 328 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:08,040 I do think that the conclusion she came to was a very natural 329 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:10,800 and at least in my mind, natural an adult. 330 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,720 Like I shouldn't be sacrificing my own happiness because of this 331 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:17,079 other person's. Right. 332 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:21,280 She could. I could lose Travis and it's not 333 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:25,119 worth it. But on the other hand, that X is 334 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,800 always going to be in their lives because of the children. 335 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,920 Until they're 18, I mean. This is a restraining order we 336 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,520 don't know about but. I'm sure other stuff will come 337 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,800 out, yeah. Yeah, but no, I mean, I'm very 338 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,880 happy for them, even though in Paris is kind of boring. 339 00:17:39,120 --> 00:17:40,840 But maybe he'll be more exciting. 340 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,200 I. Mean he's. 341 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:45,240 Not that I need him to be exciting. 342 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:49,560 No, no, he just needs to be reliable and and come in and and 343 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:51,760 then run his finger. Across the the counter. 344 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,240 And I'm masculine, a very masculine mask. 345 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,080 Totes mask. Totes mask. 346 00:17:56,360 --> 00:17:58,200 Totes mask. So I mean, that's really what 347 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:01,320 was going on with Gina other than, you know, being the center 348 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:02,680 of. Like the Katy? 349 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,280 The diplomat or trying to she. Was in the center where she 350 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,000 definitely was like she was the she was a moderator. 351 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,640 And all these things. She was the Whitney. 352 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:12,360 She. Was in the center of the circle 353 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:14,200 jerk trying to make all these things happen. 354 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,960 Let me tell. You I know now she was the 355 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,160 Whitney, she of the narrating, the whole Katy stuff and my baby 356 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,960 Whitney, I mean Whitney from Salt Lake, which is coming back. 357 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:27,040 Mormon wives, Yes. Yeah, that was that was OK. 358 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,360 Bravo. Thank you for letting us know. 359 00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:30,960 It's coming back. But you could have put in at 360 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:35,080 least a a bit more effort just to show a little budding flower 361 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,200 coming out of this. Well, there are. 7 if you notice 362 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,000 them because seven house was. Oh, I didn't notice that. 363 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,200 Interesting. Yeah, you were paying way too 364 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,000 much attention. Someone was pointing it out on 365 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,000 Instagram. You here, I thought you were 366 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,560 just being more observant than me. 367 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:52,560 It was really that hot up here, did you? 368 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,320 You're like, oh, it's not that hot downstairs. 369 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,160 The air conditioning is like Arctic. 370 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,600 We came upstairs. It is enough enough here. 371 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,080 It's not, I mean, it's just the, the air is not moving. 372 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,640 What were we saying? Who knows? 373 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,560 We're done with Gina. Gina, we're talking about 374 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,440 Heather. No, but we can talk about 375 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,080 Heather. I mean, Heather, basically, we 376 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,360 found out that the house that was going to make her a Real 377 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:20,440 Housewife of Beverly Hills was going to take too long to 378 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,800 renovate and they might as well just give it up now and. 379 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:27,960 It seems your storyline is renovations and houses and and 380 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,000 not being in OC unless she's working. 381 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:35,880 Yeah, yeah, that sucks what they did to the house. 382 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,400 Like to them, I mean, that's probably a tactic that's way 383 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,880 more prevalent out there is, oh, we'll go ahead and demolish 384 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:43,040 everything and then be like, oh, we're over budget. 385 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:45,000 And you're stuck with us now because why would you want to 386 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,520 change? You know, Right. 387 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,480 Well, do they know the rows were like, we just leave this. 388 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,400 Yeah. But like, who? 389 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,480 Who's gonna buy that? I guess someone who wants a 390 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,600 deal. And someone who wants a complete 391 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:58,840 renovation and comes in with their own person and. 392 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,280 You know, yes. Because they basically stripped 393 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,800 it down. Now they just have to build it 394 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:04,200 up. So that's true. 395 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,640 That's. They probably ran all along, but 396 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:09,840 yeah, that was seems to be Heather's only real. 397 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:15,240 Right. So Emily's story is, it's sad 398 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,440 for sure with her son. Yeah, sad's not the right word. 399 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,520 I mean, it's definitely. It's sad for her as a mom. 400 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,120 Yeah. I felt for her when she was 401 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:26,320 crying to Gina and, you know, just feeling like you're not 402 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:31,360 doing what you can to protect your child in this case, being 403 00:20:31,360 --> 00:20:34,880 like making sure they're eating and having nutrition. 404 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,280 And you know, it's just, it's, I'm sure it must be tough. 405 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,320 Oh no, I'm sure. I think why I'm saying is like 406 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,880 sad is like there's there's like there would be nothing they're 407 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,680 they're doing about it. Like they're definitely. 408 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,440 Right, right. They're being, they're being, 409 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,440 yes, yeah. But we see trailer, though, that 410 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,560 she and Shane are at odds. Even in this one scene, he was 411 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,960 like, oh, it's all mental. Like he's came to snap out of it 412 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,840 and start eating. That's always the worst when 413 00:20:57,840 --> 00:21:00,080 someone just all like, oh, it's all up here. 414 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,760 It's. Yeah, if that that's right, 415 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,680 that's why it's an issue is that it's all up here. 416 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,000 We need to, you know, do something about. 417 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,680 That well, but he is, you know, he's Mormon at the end of the 418 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,080 day, so. I don't know what that has to do 419 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:13,800 with it. I mean, I'm sure. 420 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,240 Sometimes we like, you know, just like it's. 421 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:19,400 Let God take care of it. Or yeah, it's like it's mind 422 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,320 over math. Sorry. 423 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,480 You want to get these? Not heavily. 424 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,240 I'm gonna. Get these golden tablets, 425 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:28,600 they'll tell us what to do. Put on my undergarments. 426 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,920 Let's let's see, let's see what Demi has to say about it from. 427 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,840 From Disney World, Disneyland. From Disneyland. 428 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I was like from Mormon wise. 429 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,840 Oh yeah, she was at Disneyland. No, it is, it is very, it's a 430 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,040 very unfortunate and it's, you know, it's. 431 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:47,520 I've never heard of the disorder. 432 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,640 You know, that's, I wonder how prevalent it is and. 433 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,360 Well, what's interesting when she later on said that like that 434 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:57,400 goes hand in hand often with being on the autism, autism 435 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,280 spectrum. Which I totally was like oh that 436 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,040 makes sense. It does especially, you know, 437 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,120 because you always hear about people, you know, being very 438 00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:08,840 sensitive to sound or smell or taste and and then you find out 439 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,120 like, Oh well, he never or texture, you know, So that's 440 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:13,280 thing is like, oh, well, that would make me really dislike 441 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,600 food right away. Like if I was very particular 442 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,240 about a certain smell or taste or texture, like I'm not putting 443 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,680 that in my mouth. Get that away, you know. 444 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,880 So you're like, you have too much smell like too like walking 445 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,280 into a restaurant probably would be hard for him because it's 446 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,560 like so much food smells at once. 447 00:22:28,120 --> 00:22:30,920 I often, you know, because you're somewhat of a picky eater 448 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,880 or you have been known to be 1. I often, when I first started 449 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,640 dating you, I was just very much like, oh, God, I wasn't like, 450 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:40,240 like, rolling my eyes, but I was like, he's exaggerating, blah, 451 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,440 blah, blah. But now I do feel like a lot of 452 00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,480 it is related to your sense of smell. 453 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,880 Yeah. Because like, you can smell like 454 00:22:47,120 --> 00:22:50,080 rotting chicken a mile away and be like, you're like, well, 455 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,240 it'll be an empty chicken container in the garage, and 456 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,280 you'll be in the house and be like, if something smells bad, 457 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,440 like, what the Hell's going on? So I definitely think for you 458 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,000 that, like smell and and then for anyone, smell and taste go 459 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,560 hand in hand. But I think you have an acute 460 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,840 sense of smell. So that makes it so that like 461 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,080 you don't necessarily want to eat things that other people 462 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:10,760 would, right. So I imagine if that was 100 463 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:15,560 times or X times more powerful for whatever reason, that you'd 464 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,440 definitely be like, yeah, white rice, please. 465 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,640 Yeah. Maybe a little bit of soy sauce, 466 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,920 yeah. Yeah, but imagine if soy sauce 467 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,640 made you nauseous or really set you off. 468 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,040 So no, it's it's unfortunate and I'm, I know we're 469 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,360 oversimplifying and apologies to anyone who's who is really 470 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:33,600 dealing with us. We're not trying to be 471 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,840 insensitive, but like trying to wrap our, you know, non right 472 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600 disordered brains around. Yeah, it's, it's interesting for 473 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,920 sure. And to see that that Gina had a 474 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,520 similar experience with her child and it's just it's, you 475 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:51,120 know, tough raising kids in the way to do the best for them, I'm 476 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:53,200 sure. And then something's out of your 477 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,280 control. You can't easily fix it. 478 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,240 That must be really rough. One thing I thought they're 479 00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,880 twins, right? Yes. 480 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:01,760 So that was something that I was thinking about it. 481 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,520 I had mentioned it while we're watching, but like, it must also 482 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,360 be interesting to have twins and they seem to be identical twins. 483 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,360 They seem to be so yeah, it's. One of those things where like 484 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,120 you'd, and I know this isn't true again, but like you'd, it's 485 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:19,280 one of those case studies I'm sure where it's like what causes 486 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,400 1 twin to develop one thing and not the other. 487 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,720 And I know there's biological differences perhaps. 488 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,240 Not exact. Exactly. 489 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,520 So it's just interesting and I think that must also weigh on 490 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,080 her as well as like, well, everything's fine with him. 491 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,360 So what's what happened over here? 492 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,760 Just must amplify it even more and. 493 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,520 You go to like a what did I do or what didn't I do scenario and 494 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:44,400 yes. There's like, oh, I must have 495 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,960 dropped him on his head when he was, you know, just stupid 496 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,440 things like that that really probably don't have any relation 497 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,560 to do with, you know what, what's causing this. 498 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,960 So, yeah, it's sad, but they're going to go into it more and 499 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,120 we're going to learn a lot I'm I'm sure. 500 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,280 But you're right. Seth was being very, not very 501 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:04,320 dismissive. That's Seth. 502 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,680 Shane. Shane being just you, you had to 503 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,040 think about it. For the idea was like, that's 504 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,400 not exactly the stuff. Around slave, Yeah, yeah. 505 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:15,120 He was being like, this is easily fixed and we just got to 506 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:18,320 like, you know, eat the wheat beans and I or paid him 20 bucks 507 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,760 to like eat this burnt crap. And, you know, I don't think 508 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,160 he's taking it as seriously as she is. 509 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,600 But he could also just be trying to be reassuring and like, you 510 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,440 know, hey, it's not as big of a deal and maybe it turns out that 511 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,080 it is. Maybe he comes around, but maybe 512 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:33,520 takes a lot to get him to come around. 513 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,520 Well, she's saying in the People magazine using an article that 514 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,840 they had to go into therapy, you know, the maybe both she and she 515 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,040 and the entire family. So it's definitely we'll see 516 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,960 that play out so. Speaking of seeing therapy. 517 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,040 Oh wow, I just like, stepped right into that. 518 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,640 I really just did. Our girl Tam. 519 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,080 No, our girl Tam. Yeah. 520 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,080 The thing that's the hardest about watching this is that 521 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,800 because we listen to two TS in a pod and we are fans of the of 522 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,280 the pod, we were listening when it happened and we were kind of 523 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,120 part, not part of it. Like we we knew this in real 524 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:06,600 time. I. 525 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,640 Really remember our reaction to that where we just like, I know 526 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:13,000 we were driving to work. Well, we'd, we'd heard about it 527 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,440 and so we saw it on like Tik Toker and social media that 528 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,280 morning that people were coming for her. 529 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,680 So we listened to that. Episode like what her? 530 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,360 What, what, what the big deal was. 531 00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,800 And yeah, she stepped in it. But the thing that I feel worse 532 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,240 about is that I feel like in the time since that happened, you 533 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:33,040 know, since this is all filmed, she's kind of been through it 534 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,920 and she's kind of answered what needed to be answered. 535 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,960 And now this being. Now it's really starting from 536 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,840 scratch again. I remember that time when Tamara 537 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,120 she was on the spectrum and everyone hated her and people 538 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:49,320 were on the spectrum like lost their their shit on her and. 539 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,400 And so there's a whole number, a whole new pool of people that 540 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,040 are who didn't know about this because. 541 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,520 They're not going to get your social media. 542 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:57,320 Yes, yeah. And then on top of that, there's 543 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,920 going to be people that are just Tamara haters to begin with or 544 00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:01,800 use an opportunity to be like. Yeah. 545 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,520 Oh, Tamara. It's so. 546 00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,840 It's so, it's so. It's like, it's like calling 547 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,520 Kyle vile, like you're not. It was clever the first time. 548 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,960 Now it's not anymore. Yeah, but we still enjoy it when 549 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,360 people call call them tree stumps. 550 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,320 Well, that was just, I mean, yes, that was a classic 551 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:23,200 Margaret. Yeah. 552 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:27,160 My thing with and looking at her, you know, as much as I like 553 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,960 Tamra, I think the good thing is that she's in therapy and she 554 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,120 realizes there's a problem. She's trying to fix it. 555 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,600 My one thing, and I hope this improves is that she just takes 556 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,000 and she's going to hate this Teddy. 557 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,960 She's going to hate this like she's listening to this take 558 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,560 more accountability. Like, yes, these bad things 559 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,520 happen to you, whether it be Simon or your daughter or other 560 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:56,320 people coming on the show really to attack you, but you control 561 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,560 all you can control is your reaction. 562 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,200 And when your reactions come so hard, you have to be able to say 563 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:06,360 like, I was wrong for that. Like she did it on the they 564 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,120 were. I was listening to them recap 565 00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:12,240 the valley and she was saying they're talking about Janet and 566 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,720 saying that, you know, she's like, I've been there. 567 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,600 You know, I've been playing in the villain and trying to move a 568 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,440 story and there are times I just did things just to move story 569 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,760 and I acknowledge it and, you know, apologize for it. 570 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,680 And that wasn't right. And so she needs to can continue 571 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,280 to do that, acknowledge like her part in this and how she is 572 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,880 reacting to someone coming at her or to these difficulties in 573 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,800 her life. You know, it's, it's good 574 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:44,400 because it explains so explains a lot of who she is and not 575 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,720 trusting people thinking they're going to leave her or turn on 576 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,720 her. But you also have to be like, 577 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,560 but I didn't react well. And now I'm learning how to and, 578 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,360 and, and, and the first step is being in therapy. 579 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,040 And she's been there for a few months. 580 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,560 And so, you know, there was, and I'm sure it was a much longer 581 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:01,840 session. We didn't get everything. 582 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,200 Yeah. So maybe she did say more things 583 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,360 than I remember. The therapist is the therapist 584 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,320 is like, but what could you have done better? 585 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,240 You know, like Erica's therapist, like she really will 586 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,920 say point out. Yeah, but you know, what about 587 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,760 you? Like what are you doing to 588 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,520 rectify this? What I'm more what I'm worried 589 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:29,560 about is that two things like I tend to I believe that Tamara's 590 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:31,600 genuinely. Going totally. 591 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,840 Totally. Like it would be the weirdest 592 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,280 long game. Like when we were offseason, I 593 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:39,320 started doing a therapy and talking about my podcast so that 594 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,920 when we started filming again, dah dah dah dah dah. 595 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,040 Like plant of the seeds, Yeah. Say what you will about all 596 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,320 these, you know, you know, machinations that people think 597 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,240 housewives do. No one is that smart. 598 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,320 No to. Be like I'm going to start doing 599 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,320 this. I mean, unless she has like APR 600 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,120 team or something but who's going to do? 601 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,480 I don't believe that for a minute. 602 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,040 So I, I, I worry that people are going to be coming for her over 603 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,720 genuinely trying to deal with her shit. 604 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,320 Yes, and then prove herself. Yes, and and adding you know who 605 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,560 in a bit will only compound that. 606 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,920 Right, which doesn't make it any better. 607 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,400 But that being said, I agree with you that she's just, she's 608 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:23,720 not just she's putting a lot on. I'm in therapy and it's like, 609 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,720 OK, that's good that you're in therapy, but you. 610 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:31,560 Can't if you learn from therapy and what do you need to let go 611 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,480 of? Like like letting go of how 612 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,400 deeply hurt you were by Simon or by your daughter, etcetera, 613 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,040 etcetera. Not that I've ever been in 614 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,560 therapy. Sam. 615 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,840 So I probably am talking, well, I'm definitely talking out my 616 00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:48,440 ass, but I feel like sometimes people who are in therapy, it's 617 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,360 it's like they're like rich people. 618 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,800 It's like wealth whispers if you're in therapy and it's 619 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,560 actually working, you don't need to talk about it. 620 00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,640 It should be soft. Like everybody, Yeah. 621 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,680 Like I don't need. It's like you're not vegan, 622 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,040 you're not in Barrys Boot camp, you're not doing CrossFit. 623 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:04,680 I don't need to hear about it every time. 624 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,960 So like, if it's really working, I'm not saying keep it to 625 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:09,480 yourself, we're happy to hear about it. 626 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,840 Let's share about it. But it doesn't need to be your 627 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,080 entire storyline, so to speak. And I am worrying that this 628 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,880 entire season is going to be, well, I'm in therapy and it's 629 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:20,640 like. Well, but it's going to be other 630 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,520 stuff when you know, once. Gretchen gets. 631 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,240 There exactly. And then also fighting you. 632 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,760 Won't even say her name. I'll say her name. 633 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:33,520 She's right there. Her face is just the work she's 634 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,160 done like in the makeup she has like in this clips I've seen so 635 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,440 far. I'm just like it just seems 636 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:45,480 puppity and and not in a not. In a good Madam way, not a good 637 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,000 Madam other other gay way. Way no. 638 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,600 So see our TikTok for that. If you're wondering what I'm 639 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,440 talking about, yeah. So anyway. 640 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:56,600 So, yeah, so I, I looking forward to see where this goes 641 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,840 with Tamra. And Speaking of Tamra, who like 642 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,240 can't exist without Tamra freaking Jen, yes, like I love 643 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,880 when the editors were like put like an image of Tamron. 644 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:13,160 Jen cannot talk about anything except for like screwing Ryan, 645 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,800 their wedding, how much sex they have, and then Tamra and how 646 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,320 Tamra's come after them and they're her targets and then. 647 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:26,640 Just to make again making another housewife your soul, 648 00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:28,080 kind of. Your reason? 649 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,920 Reason to be on the show just like and maybe it won't stay 650 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,320 that way all season, but seeing how she probably pairs up with 651 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,160 Gretchen. She okay, so everyone he was 652 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,800 saying last year that Tamara brought Alexis on to her Shannon 653 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,360 one, let's reiterate people let's go back. 654 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,760 They were already talking to Alexis before she started dating 655 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:52,640 John Jansen. It worked out well for them that 656 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:56,040 she did start dating John Jansen, but it wasn't Tamra 657 00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,640 executing a move to try to hurt Shannon period. 658 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,200 Meanwhile, on the flip side, Jen, as she said in the in the 659 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360 trailer, sent an SOS to Gretchen. 660 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:12,760 Oh my God, Tamra help and Gretchen like saw the the bat 661 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:18,400 signal and like come came running cause here's the I say 662 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,600 here's the thing a lot why hasn't Gretchen come back until 663 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,560 now? Production didn't want her. 664 00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,960 Where was Gretchen when Tamara wasn't on the show? 665 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,440 Why wasn't Gretchen brought back then? 666 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:38,960 Because Gretchen without Tamara, nothing happening so. 667 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,640 Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, and Jen making her whole 668 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,640 story about like, how Tamara's hurt her. 669 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:45,960 Lame. What else are you doing? 670 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,000 Are you gonna open that yoga studio again? 671 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,080 Are you? Have you paid back your your 672 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,280 debts like? Yeah. 673 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:53,840 Are you getting married in a bikini? 674 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,160 Oh, that's so fascinating. Like she is. 675 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,440 So she is as dull as she is pretty. 676 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,520 I guess you're calling. You're very pretty then. 677 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,760 She's very pretty but very dull. Way too tan calm down on the 678 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:11,360 Tanner girl the. Thing that I'm I guess I don't I 679 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,639 don't want to fault Jen yet because I think you're right. 680 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,520 I I want to say like, Oh well, her wedding will be part of her 681 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:20,719 storyline, you know, fine. But I think that she will be 682 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,480 embroiled in the midst of a lot of the interpersonal drama with 683 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,000 the other women, which is something I'm always asking for. 684 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,360 I'm always saying like, I'd rather have housewives be part 685 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,960 of the drama with each other than to be out there on their 686 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,000 own. So as long as she doesn't remain 687 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,040 A1 Tamer pony, I'll be fine. Like if she can move on and like 688 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,639 be part of the drama with others, cool, I'm into it. 689 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:47,480 But if it does end up being all in service of like, you know, 690 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,159 Oh, I showed you Tamara then. You're not showing me anything, 691 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:52,960 girl. Also, I think she's going to 692 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,920 drop Katie hard. Seems like she already has. 693 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,280 Yeah. The fact that she's like, well, 694 00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:59,600 I don't remember saying. How do you not remember calling 695 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,240 someone to call an artist? Yeah. 696 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:05,880 How do you not remember that if? You are so like, Oh well, like I 697 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,720 don't. I remember saying that and then 698 00:35:07,720 --> 00:35:11,920 you just went along with saying it like, you know, like I. 699 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,600 You were talking some shit. I yeah, I know. 700 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,480 Yeah. It's like in Real Housewives of 701 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:17,800 New York. Like we were out on the patio 702 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,280 talking shit about each other. I probably. 703 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:25,560 That's The thing is again, even if I'm like in a like torrent of 704 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:29,200 like trash talking about a friend, if called on it, I'm 705 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,320 like, well, I don't remember saying that specifically, but I 706 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,160 probably did like. But con artist is so strong. 707 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:36,800 It's not like, oh, I didn't like her dress or I think she which 708 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,360 that was bitchy con artist. Yeah, yeah, it's a really hard 709 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,960 label to put on somebody. Yeah. 710 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,800 So if we're to not remember that, it's like. 711 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,440 And the reason you would call someone that, you'd have to have 712 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,400 some backup to that. It's not just like, oh, then she 713 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,560 cut me off in traffic one day. She's a con artist. 714 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:57,040 It's like, no, there's a reason you would call someone a con 715 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,040 artist. So, yeah, you're right. 716 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:02,080 She's so, so, so flaky. So flaky. 717 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:03,520 Yeah. I don't. 718 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,000 I don't. I don't get her. 719 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,280 And also what she said about Katie of saying that. 720 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,280 What? Basically saying that Katie says 721 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,160 a lot of bullshit but she lets it go because they're friends. 722 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:19,600 That's just really weird, you know? 723 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,600 Like, I accept it. I know she's probably lying, but 724 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,640 you know. One thing I noticed she. 725 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,120 Bought me a coffee. One thing I noticed when they 726 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:32,800 went to Shannons rehab, I mean Shannon Spa, was that a lot of 727 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,640 them hadn't seen each other since filming. 728 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:38,200 Yeah. And so I think that very, it 729 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,200 kind of drove home to me a little bit like, oh, I let a lot 730 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,480 of stuff go because we haven't seen each other and she's my 731 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:48,080 only ally on the show other than maybe Shannon. 732 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,120 But Shannon seems to drop them both pretty quick it seems. 733 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,720 I think Shannon, like they, they did social media for Bravo, they 734 00:36:57,720 --> 00:36:59,680 paired them up and Shannon and Jen together. 735 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,600 So I think they're cool. It's like Katie, who was by 736 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,040 herself and Gretchen was by herself. 737 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,600 Got it. So yeah, I just think John's 738 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:11,680 gonna go with the popular team and I don't think she has a lot 739 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,040 of loyalty. Well. 740 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:15,920 I mean, she doesn't necessarily need to either. 741 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:19,200 I mean, yeah. And then to be acting all like, 742 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,480 you know, shocked that, you know, I thought Tamara and I 743 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,480 were friends. Like did you? 744 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:27,080 OK, and this whole story I do not believe this for a second 745 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,600 that Tamara was like I was at at Brian's talking about like 746 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,680 screwing him or like she was showing him her her boobs like I 747 00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:37,520 just. I believe that a form of that 748 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,960 may have happened where it was just like it wasn't even 749 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,480 flirting. Or maybe just joking. 750 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,920 I just don't believe Jen. Oh, believe Jen. 751 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,920 I believe women, but I don't believe Jen all. 752 00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:51,960 Right. Fair. 753 00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,880 No, I mean, I think there's a shred of truth to it. 754 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,280 Like, I don't think Jen would just make that up. 755 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,160 Ryan would have he told her we've said this before, like 756 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,400 true she I'm sure Ryan just like the other day on Miami when like 757 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,880 Jodie interrupted Lisa's confessional. 758 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,480 I'm sure Ryan is sitting off to the side be like hey baby bitch 759 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,920 to that. Hey babe, don't forget about 760 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,800 that. Yeah, like Ryan's taking the 761 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:20,160 notes for her too, so she can regurgitate it in her 762 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:21,800 confession. No, they were talking about it 763 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,800 on 2 TS. Some people are not good at 764 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,760 confessionals and they use like their glam or friends or 765 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,160 whatever like sitting there to give them stuff to. 766 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,280 Remind them. Or just to, like, give them, 767 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:35,280 like, witty comebacks. Yeah, yeah. 768 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,360 I was telling Jeff that when we first started the podcast, I, 769 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,560 when we were watching the show earlier, we first started the 770 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,240 podcast, I, we wouldn't share our thoughts that when we came 771 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,520 upstairs that it'd be like fresh and we go, let me go. 772 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:51,960 But then after we've done 100, well, this is our 56th episode 773 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,560 of our second year. OK. 774 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,880 So I think we have like 190. We're going to be here our 2nd 775 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,560 200th episodes. And we should. 776 00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,120 Get a cake and we should get a cake. 777 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,400 I don't remember all the stuff. So like I find if we talk about 778 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,240 a little bit before, oh right, I remember that. 779 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,640 Yeah, it doesn't like, you know, ruin. 780 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,720 No, it doesn't ruin anything. It makes me wonder though that 781 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,000 like, maybe he's just there reminding her. 782 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,000 Like, yeah, remember. Reminding her. 783 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,880 Again, if we. Puppeting her. 784 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,720 We're not going to say that like there's this brilliant 785 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:24,360 machination of like manipulation of, you know, oh, I have a 786 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,440 storyline I'm going to work on. Ryan isn't going to be smart 787 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:31,320 enough to be like. Brian far enough or he's smarter 788 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:35,080 than. Don't say it. 789 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,600 Don't say you're going to get us in trouble. 790 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,160 Yeah, I would say I think Jen is easily LED. 791 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,520 That's what I'm saying. True. 792 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,920 Whether it be Ryan or Gretchen or the mailman, I think it's 793 00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:50,600 just yeah. I mean, yeah, she didn't she 794 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,360 live in Utah, If we've seen things. 795 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,920 The Mormon wives. No, I mean I'm serious. 796 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,680 Well, it's her nothing. Easily. 797 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,120 I think she said like her husband was pretty control. 798 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,120 Yeah, I can't. It's at all. 799 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,320 No, and I really don't mean that any like knock on Jen. 800 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,800 I'm just saying that like, you know, it it, it if you're in a 801 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:10,280 marriage and someone just takes care of everything, like she 802 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,080 didn't know how to pay bills. And right, she didn't have like 803 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,320 a checkbook or yeah, yeah it. Makes sense that there could be 804 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:17,880 like, oh, I just do whatever he tells. 805 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,400 Not whatever he tells me, but like he's mentioned it. 806 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:21,920 Yeah, that makes sense. I'll go go with. 807 00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:24,400 That so it's funny because again, she had so much more 808 00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:28,840 story with all of that in the fallout from because last year 809 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,840 was her second season, right? Yes. 810 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,880 Yeah, she had more to talk about and trying to figure her stuff 811 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,760 out and the bills and, you know, the whole stuff with Gina and 812 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,760 the house and and all that and being evicted and so and. 813 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,320 Now she was and Katie. Exactly. 814 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,720 Sorry, I didn't mean to cut you. Off No, that's the. 815 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:52,880 That's OK, we got to that point. Sorry, I've been cutting an 816 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,320 awful lot, but I know I'm really. 817 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,320 Oh, in the beginning I was when I was trying to make that point 818 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:58,880 about Katie. And yes, I was. 819 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:01,880 That's why I said listen to my point, all that my furniture. 820 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,920 But no, that was totally fine. You see, when I married two 821 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,960 people, Oh my. He's so. 822 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:07,520 He's so. Controlled. 823 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,560 He's just like, he's just like Ryan. 824 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,160 Disgusting. She did a disgusting tonight. 825 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:16,480 That's. So disgusting. 826 00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:18,960 Would you rather? Would you rather? 827 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:23,320 Would you rather have Ryan in his underwear or Terry Dubrow in 828 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,960 his underwear? Terry Dubrow and they would say 829 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,840 like Jesse from Valley in his tripping chores. 830 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,880 That's a hard one because I just think I'd rather have Ryan over 831 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,640 this droopy drawer. I'd take Jesse over Ryan. 832 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:39,680 Ryan has a lot of face. Ryan's face is what ruins it. 833 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,720 For me, it's extreme face. Yeah, and. 834 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,360 It's very Yeah, it's, it's, it's he's got beady eyes. 835 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,600 It's. It's a little reptilian. 836 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,080 That's get out of my head. The word I was the same. 837 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,960 How does me too mean? No, no, I'm not saying he's a 838 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,160 horrible looking person. I'm just saying I don't think 839 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,280 that Tamara was trying to get with that. 840 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,440 Well, but if you believe all these rumors that they're 841 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,040 swingers and like and. One of those rumors come out 842 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,720 when what's her name joins the show and they tried to say that 843 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:13,360 Tamara was having an affair. Yeah. 844 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,880 That's true. Again, coming in, she hasn't 845 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,120 gotten here and I'm already like smack talking this chick. 846 00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,640 Or so Shannon. Yes. 847 00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,440 Her daughter's cat has a beret done. 848 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:33,240 As you start a large cat, yes, her daughters are in various 849 00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,640 places. He settled her case with John. 850 00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,320 Jansen what you knew that after after the reunion, the. 851 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,880 Writing that I paid for girl. Also, if you think you're gonna 852 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,320 stick to a $16,000 bushes, you're crazy. 853 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,680 Do you know Alexis? Although I can't imagine, I 854 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,840 don't know. They're not gonna go like super 855 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,560 Yeah, you can have a perfectly fine wedding for less than that. 856 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,560 We had a perfectly fine wedding for less Much much. 857 00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,840 Less than that. But I'm just saying like if we 858 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,640 had a like if God forbid we ever had divorced, marriage number 2 859 00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:08,360 is not even getting half of what we got. 860 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,360 Oh my gosh, the energy, like the, the money, the love. 861 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,320 That's why we're like, we'll always be together. 862 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,520 Yes, that's why we'll always be together. 863 00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,880 But anyway, sure. Yeah, I don't really see nothing 864 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,000 else. I mean, she was just really 865 00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,160 trying. Trying to be Zen. 866 00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,800 Yeah, trying to be Zen, show that she's not drinking. 867 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,320 Oh, I made a joke crack about it earlier. 868 00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,520 But I really do believe, like people like after the last 869 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,360 reunion, even they were saying like when Shannon went to rehab, 870 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,240 it wasn't truly a rehab. It was just like a Wellness 871 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,120 Center, like a spa. And you think it was this place, 872 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,000 this gold door? Place, I mean it's one seems to 873 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,600 support the other, they wouldn't they seem to get a really. 874 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,200 Good brand. Deal out of the whole thing and 875 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,480 some publicity. I mean it. 876 00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,760 I had never heard of it and and but. 877 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,200 Also, I don't, you know, I'm not looking at Us Weekly for see 878 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,120 where Julia Roberts is going on her spine, nor are you looking 879 00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:08,640 for retreats in Escondido. Or San Marcos, but I'm sure they 880 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,120 seem like a blast to all other customers. 881 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,600 You may. Not want to come this day, 882 00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:13,480 right, Julia? Oprah. 883 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,080 Yeah, and then Jen, like, oh, Oprah. 884 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,960 Might be there, wasn't it Jen? It was, and her daughter didn't 885 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,000 know who Oprah was. And that's when you just say get 886 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,840 the to the YouTube girl. I mean, that's that if you're a 887 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,320 teenager. Today. 888 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,880 Maybe I could see why you wouldn't know. 889 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:34,320 But Oprah, like even the name Oprah, you don't hear that very 890 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,240 often. It's not like her name was Jenny 891 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,680 Jones. Like it's it's Oprah. 892 00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:44,160 So, Sally, Jesse Raphael. More Hypovic. 893 00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:49,440 Ricky, like you see somewhere, would have encountered that name 894 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,240 at some point, but maybe her children aren't into all that. 895 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,160 Yeah, Everly. Is that her name? 896 00:44:57,920 --> 00:44:59,680 Leigh. Oh. 897 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,360 That's that's a pretty name, but. 898 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,080 That whole anytime you put Lee as Leigh. 899 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:07,840 It's just, I don't know Lee as Leigh. 900 00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,720 But like when you're doing like Ashley Everly? 901 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,160 Child, I don't. I don't need that. 902 00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,280 We don't need it. No, Ashley spelled A. 903 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:22,120 SHLEYI mean if you're smart and beautiful and. 904 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,320 One of our best friends, obviously. 905 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,200 Obviously, probably her. I recommended. 906 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:34,320 Ashley, make your alter ego Ashley to their people. 907 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:34,960 Off. Yeah. 908 00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,680 When you're feeling saucy, you're like, well, they'll 909 00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:37,800 never. Know who I am? 910 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,960 I'm Ashley, sorry you're an ash league of your own. 911 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,800 So, but everything's kind of a pretty. 912 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,840 Name. I would never name our child 913 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,000 that that. No, I'm not yearning for that. 914 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,320 No, that's not good. That's not. 915 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:53,280 A contender? No, no, but it is the last. 916 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,400 Name. Someone's last name? 917 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,600 Oh, I got Yeah. Who? 918 00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:02,600 Probably a baseball player. Seems like a baseball player. 919 00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,880 Left a baseball player. We are losing the thread here. 920 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,240 Yeah, and I think we've pretty much covered everything. 921 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:15,360 Yeah, yes, being all the ladies. Yeah, again, it's a great start. 922 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:19,120 Yeah, we clearly have more. Opinions about this I look how 923 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:20,680 you started. Obviously I don't have a lot of. 924 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,120 Opinions. And we're like, let's go deep. 925 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:24,200 Yeah, we really do. I mean, we've gone for freaking 926 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,880 ever. Here, we're at 47 minutes. 927 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,280 Oh, gosh. So yeah, no, it's fine. 928 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,360 I mean, I again, I think, I don't know, let no one's 929 00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,080 listening now anyway. I mean, I don't think anyone 930 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:36,000 would get this far. But like you heard on that 931 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,800 earlier, Miami, we're not doing too good with our views on 932 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,400 Miami, which makes me think our views on our shows are 933 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,000 proportionate to the ratings and stuff. 934 00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,960 I'm not. I think we're being ghastly 935 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,720 about how great Miami is. That's all I'm saying because 936 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:53,440 like it is, seems to be a recurring. 937 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:56,920 Theme about Oh my gosh, Miami and then I'm like this, this is 938 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,800 what we're getting with. Miami, SO I'm open minded to it 939 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,000 and we're watching it, but like no for sure, but like I 940 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:06,320 genuinely. Enjoyed this episode and these 941 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,880 women, even the ones I don't necessarily like, I feel more of 942 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,680 a even if I'm not liking you, I'm not liking you strongly as 943 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,960 opposed to just being like, I don't like that Stephanie chick. 944 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,040 I get it. You're rich, right? 945 00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,600 But with this one, like, oh, yeah, I'm shaking a fist to the 946 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,720 sky. The OC Sky or Escondido. 947 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,240 That's where they were at the end. 948 00:47:26,240 --> 00:47:27,760 Yeah. All right. 949 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,960 Well, I mean, this is good. And then we're going to get 950 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,080 Atlanta back on the reunion, right on Sunday. 951 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:36,560 That'll be good. And then we're back to Miami and 952 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,040 then this. We had a cadence going. 953 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:39,200 I love it. Good. 954 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,560 We'll talk about it next time. It's all next time.