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Music. 
Welcome to another episode of 

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husbands watching housewives. 
I'm Scott. 

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Normally that would be Jeff, but
he's at work today. 

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I I took the day off to take 
care of some things in and out 

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of the podcast. 
But we recently watched an 

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episode of the Real Housewives 
of Miami, to be specific. 

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We watched the first episode of 
the reunion this season and we 

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were lucky enough to do it with 
we wine whenever another podcast

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and we hope that you do too. 

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their platform and even more 
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So it's always, always a good, 
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Enjoy the show. 
So then Julia drops the 

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bombshell that you know that her
and Adriana slept together in 

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the Hamptons and. 
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because I was an idiot who was 
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before in a commercial break and
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So I did not have it but. 
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Hi, welcome to WE Wine Whenever.
I'm Wendy. 

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I'm Kelly. 
We are here today with husbands 

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watching housewives Scott and 
Jeff. 

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Let's welcome them. 
Hello. 

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Thanks for having us, this is 
great. 

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Yeah. 
Thanks for joining. 

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Yeah, tell us a little bit about
yourselves. 

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Well, he's the original 
housewives fan between us when 

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we first started dating, I was 
like, oh God, Housewives guy. 

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And, and I was like, eventually 
I'm going to have to watch one 

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of these. 
And he, he got me introduced I 

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think with the Atlanta, one of 
the Atlanta reunions. 

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Yes, it was season 10. 
Yeah, and reunion, I think a 

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reunion is a good place for 
people to start when they 

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haven't really housewived 
before, because I think it's 

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really good to, because I just 
sat down on like, oh, that 

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girl's lying. 
Oh, that person. 

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And you could just easily see 
the mechanics going on. 

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I think sometimes that that 
really got me going. 

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And then you know from there, 
living together. 

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Yeah, we moved in together. 
We started watching all of them,

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basically. 
But funny enough, not Miami. 

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We just start. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, we kind of. 
Wondering because I thought you 

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mentioned in in one of your 
podcasts that this is the first 

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season you've watched Miami. 
Correct. 

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Yes, I watched the first two 
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day, and then I don't know about
the third. 

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And then when it came back on 
Peacock, we were just like, we 

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met too, but then we're like, 
we're not into that. 

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And so that just became like the
one we didn't watch, basically. 

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Yeah, it. 
Was kind of our thing for a 

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while. 
We'll watch all the Housewives 

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but not Miami. 
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last few months, you're at that.
You had that period where 

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there's no housewives at all. 
We're like, we got to watch it. 

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We got to give it a try. 
Yeah. 

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So basically the idea for the 
show, can't we just like we, you

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know, watch all the shows, Then 
we would talk about it in depth,

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like during and after. 
And so we're like, we should 

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maybe do a podcast. 
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went to Bravo Con in 2023, and 
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panel. 
We were just in line at the bar 

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talking about what we just seen 
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And this woman behind this said,
do you have a podcast? 

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Because you sound like, you 
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about. 
And we're like, no, we're just 

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two husbands, you know, who 
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And she's like, well, if you had
a podcast, I would listen 

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because, you know, you. 
Yeah, you sound really 

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knowledgeable. 
And so we that's. 

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Awesome. 
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with the idea of it and, you 
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let's do it now. 
Let's go ahead and get some mics

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and give it a go. 
And here we are now over 200 

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episodes. 
And then, you know, meet and 

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find, find people like you do 
this as well. 

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So it's all, it's great. 
I love it. 

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Yeah, it's a nice community. 
It is, it is, it is. 

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I mean, some of it we, we 
haven't met very many people. 

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I say we were saying before we 
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there's some people with some 
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So it's always nice to be able 
to find people that have have 

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some similar alignment but also 
different opinions about stuff. 

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So. 
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You just, you want to stay 
rational about it. 

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But but like our friend Lori, 
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like, there's nothing rational 
about these women. 

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I'm like, no, I get that, right?
We just have to stay rational 

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about it. 
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Yeah, I've seen him throw down 
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just scrolling Twitter or Reddit
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I just can't. 
I just can't. 

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I get so fired up. 
Then I'm like, why am I getting 

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so fired up? 
It's just the reality show. 

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Even like doing the pod like 
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and afterwards like listen to 
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I'm like, why was I so upset 
about what she said? 

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It's just the reality show, calm
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Oh yeah, I mean, I'm sure you've
realized I pop off very easily 

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about things and Wendy's like 
why you get so mad? 

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I'm like, I know and I don't 
know why. 

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Like it didn't happen to me. 
Probably mad at something going 

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on in my house and taking it out
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That's awesome. 
So we're going to talk about the

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Real Housewives of Miami Reunion
Part 1. 

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But before we dive into that, 
let's talk about the reunion 

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looks. 
So I have them up behind me. 

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Scott, which one was your 
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My favorite, honestly, I didn't 
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until I saw it on screen, was 
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It was really like seeing the 
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I was like, but I really liked 
just kind of like the the IT was

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a little ice skater Y without 
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It had the right amount of 
sparkle. 

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So that's my favorite. 
How about you, Jeff? 

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Mine was actually Alexia's like 
I don't normally like yellow but

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it looked really good on her and
the hair and the and the red lip

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and it was just a nice 
presentation all around. 

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I thought a. 
Little too plain for me, just 

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straight yellow dread. 
But it was a very statement. 

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It was very strong, yellow like 
a like a sunburst. 

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Right. 
If you're Andy, it was orange. 

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Yeah, so. 
Yes, yes, that's right. 

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To me and what Lexia's looked 
extremely painful up top. 

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It happens with a lot of 
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Looks like they're really 
squeezed in and I'm like, are 

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the girls OK? 
That's what I mean. 

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Like I don't know. 
And I don't know if Alexia's has

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fake boobs or not, but maybe if 
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bad. 
I don't know, it just looked 

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very painful. 
Never thought about that. 

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If fake versus real, I guess 
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Like maybe they're numb. 
I don't know. 

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If somebody could, if a listener
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that'd be great. 
Great. 

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Yeah. 
Trying to think about what's 

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yours fake. 
Boobs. 

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I'll ask them. 
Which one's your favorite? 

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I don't know if I have any. 
My favorite I I like Lisa's and 

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I like Kiki's. 
Oh, those are good. 

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Those. 
Are good, yes. 

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Yeah, I mean, Kiki, like that 
picture I don't think does it 

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justice, but obviously Kiki's 
stunning. 

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She really can't do any wrong 
with the fashion thing. 

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But yeah, I I thought she stood 
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And this is where Wendy comes in
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favorite, right? 
Oh no. 

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This is beautiful. 
No, no, no, actually, I said 

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Marisol's. 
Marisol's my favorite. 

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And Lisa was, I gave her number 
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She got my second spot because I
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But Larsa's, I heard on Anna's, 
Anna's podcast that she looked 

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that dress up. 
It was $176. 

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Her dress. 
Really. 

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Larsa's. 
Yes. 

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I don't remember where it was 
from. 

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I know, but I don't know where 
it was from. 

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But $176 reunion dress, I was 
like you it it showed. 

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It looked like $176 reunion 
dress. 

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I totally agree with that. 
Yeah, I've said it before. 

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Nobody can pull off a bodysuit 
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I mean, she's got the body for a
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Not at the reunion, right? 
Use it up a little bit. 

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Use it up. 
Yeah. 

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All right, so let's get on to 
the reunion. 

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The ladies arrive at 6:53 AM the
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Adriana shows up with her dog, 
her emotional support dog, 

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Basquiat. 
How funny was that? 

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When Andy was like, yeah, 
Adriana, I'm getting from 

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production, the dog has to go. 
Meanwhile, probably nobody was 

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in his ear. 
And he was like, I don't want 

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this dog on this set like. 
Someone's saying. 

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Someone is me. 
Exactly that someone is me Lars 

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is talking about. 
She doesn't do receipts for the 

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reunion. 
The only thing in her phone are 

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photos of her feet. 
OK, I I believe that she's the. 

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Only fans plug. 
In there. 

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Exactly, Julia is crying and 
emotional about all the social 

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media posts and then they flash 
the social media posts. 

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I mean, she was getting a lot of
hate on social media. 

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She definitely was. 
What are your thoughts on that? 

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Well, we're not the biggest fans
of Julia's this well, I'd say 

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this season, but this is our 
first season. 

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I really wanted to like her cuz 
I think when we watched the 

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first season back when they were
Miami returned, I really kind of

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liked her. 
But I was really disappointed 

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with kind of how just she went 
over all and you know, from the 

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water throwing and everything. 
I, I don't know, I think she 

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kind of deserves not all of that
stuff, but a little bit, I mean.

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A little bit of that I think 
hate to a certain, you know, 

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Housewives fans can be a bit 
toxic and a bit overboard. 

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So I think I don't hate anybody 
and no one should hate anyone. 

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You don't know these women. 
You may not, you may disagree 

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with them, but there's no need 
to name call or threaten or what

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have you. 
So I wouldn't go that far. 

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I would say I strongly dislike 
Julia and things that she said 

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as well as her wife, which we 
get to like for a minute. 

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We'll talk about that later. 
Yes, yes we will. 

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Yes, you know, it's yeah. 
There's no need to like, come at

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her so hard. 
So no, I think we can all agree 

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that she's has not been a good 
friend to Adriana. 

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This. 
No this season. 

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Or. 
Granny. 

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For that matter, no. 
No, of 100. 

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Oh, no, Absolutely. 
Absolutely. 

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That's how it started. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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Yeah, how about that flashback? 
To her going crazy and throwing 

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the chair at that one event 
where Anna. 

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Yeah, right. 
There's a history. 

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And here's the problem. 
There's definitely a history, 

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but that season it didn't work 
for production to show that side

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of Julia. 
So we didn't see it. 

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But this season, it works for 
production to show that side of 

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Julia. 
Production's really interesting.

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They're watching the show they 
want us to see of. 

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Course, yes, they really pick 
and choose what what gets the 

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the greatest segment. 
It's like, oh, you chose that. 

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OK, yeah, interesting. 
That changes the narrative, 

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yeah. 
It does, but yeah, yeah. 

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For. 
For Julia to show up and just be

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already, I mean, I guess she'd 
be right off the bat, like in 

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her feelings like that and just 
be so like already wound up. 

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It's a little bit, I don't know,
part of me is like she's 

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preparing things for later so 
she can have a defense of just, 

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you know, sorry. 
Things have been really, really 

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horrible for me where instead of
actually owning up to her 

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behavior, which, you know, she 
says she apologizes. 

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But I don't know. 
It's very hollow to me, all that

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stuff. 
Yeah, I agree. 

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I totally agree as well. 
Next we see Larsa brought her 

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boyfriend, Jeff Kobe. 
I don't know why she feels the 

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need to bring a boyfriend to 
every reunion to sit in the back

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and just support her, but he was
there. 

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Let me just let me just 
interrupt. 

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I apologize, but he supposedly 
he's a basketball. 

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Well, he is a basketball player.
He's a basketball player. 

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So my son and my husband loved 
the NBA. 

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Your sons love the NBA. 
So my son happened to be walking

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past. 
I said, Joe, have you ever heard

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of Jeff Kobe? 
He's like who? 

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I said Jeff Kobe. 
I think he played for the. 

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The only thing I could find on 
the Internet, something did say 

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he played for the Knicks one 
season, but then I couldn't find

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anything else. 
I don't know if he actually 

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played for the Knicks. 
I think he played in a Where's 

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he from? 
Haiti. 

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From Haiti farm league 
somewhere. 

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He just plays the minors. 
I. 

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Believe so. 
Maybe Larsa's just downplaying. 

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She's down grading her a famous 
athlete status. 

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So she's like, you know, the 
last one was a little too high 

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profile. 
We need a little lower profile 

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one this time. 
Exactly. 

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Paparazzi aren't going to, you 
know, catch him doing anything 

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illegal, right? 
At least in another country. 

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Yeah, Lisa's not going to want 
to follow him. 

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So it won't be a problem. 
It'll be it'll be OK. 

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Exactly, yes. 
Andy kicks off the reunion with 

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a shot of tequila for himself 
and the ladies, which I thought 

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was a little odd, and he did say
it's the first time they've ever

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done that, but I don't know if 
that's really the way to start 

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it. 
Just saying. 

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Well, Jeff was joking that after
the Beverly Hills reunion where 

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Garcelle just got up and walked 
away, he's like, we got to do we

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got to do the kind of the the 
kumbaya at the beginning of the 

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reunion this year. 
Maybe. 

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Absolutely. 
That's a good point, A good 

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point, but other housewives are 
like banned from drinking at all

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at Reunions Miami. 
They're doing shots ahead of 

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time. 
They're pre gaming. 

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They're pre gaming the reunion. 
Well, I think it's probably a 

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part of Marisol's contract that 
if it's there's not a shot at 

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the beginning, in the end she 
won't do it. 

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So because she got a cocky cart 
off to the side. 

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A cocky cart. 
Andy asks Adriana who has a 

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higher sex drive, her or 
Basquiat because she took her 

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dog to get that before he got. 
Fixed, I forgot about that. 

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I thought it was. 
Funny, so my daughter's favorite

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artist is Basquiat and I thought
he was talking about the artist.

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I'm like, why would he ask that?
I didn't realize that was her 

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dog's name. 
I thought. 

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I saw it in the episode but I 
forgot. 

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I thought it was the French 
boyfriend for a second. 

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I thought I thought he was 
talking about the French 

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boyfriend. 
He just disappeared. 

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Like they made out for 4 
episodes and that's the last we 

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saw of him. 
What did he do? 

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Disappear. 
It was the dog. 

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Yeah. 
I. 

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Forgot I forgot about. 
That last hurrah before she had 

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him neutered. 
She right, Right. 

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So weird to the Georgia brothel.
Thing, yes, that was. 

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Yes, I thought that was. 
I mean, I can't remember that 

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you brought it up. 
Right, I can't remember if I I 

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thought I googled if that was a 
serious thing that like existed 

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in Miami like a doggy brothel. 
But then you know you get into 

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some really bad search results 
after you search dog brothel. 

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And now it's on your history. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Hopefully my husband doesn't 
look at my search browser. 

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I did not. 
Let's see. 

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Then he brings up the Julia's 
coming up on her year with the 

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boys with her and Martina and 
that Lisa recently rang the 

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opening bell at NASDAQ for her 
new company split. 

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Well I'm here for that with 
Lisa. 

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I was so excited before the 
season started she was on 2 teas

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in a pod and she was talking 
about it and she was explaining 

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it and she actually understood 
what it was, which I'm sorry for

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Lisa I think is amazing because 
honestly prior to her talking 

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about it, I really didn't think 
she was the brightest bowl, but 

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she really knew what she was 
talking about. 

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00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,640
Right, right. 
No her apps that app idea 

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sounds. 
Great. 

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It's very smart. 
Yeah, like. 

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You'd think that there'd be 
something like that already, and

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then just to see that you're 
like, that's a smart thing to 

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have created. 
And the name is good too. 

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Yeah. 
The name's very good and I think

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there is something like I said, 
we live in Jersey and my 

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girlfriend went through a 
horrible divorce and it took 

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like 3 years and there isn't. 
There was an app that she was 

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using. 
I think that's a court judge 

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though. 
It's a court app. 

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The judge was Privy to it. 
The attorneys, any therapists or

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counselors involved are Privy to
it. 

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So. 
But the, the name of that was so

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clever. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
And if she can get it, you know,

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be used in courts and stuff like
that, that would be amazing. 

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I think what you're talking 
about was actually something 

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that Drew and Ralph on Atlanta 
talked about when they're going 

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through their divorce about 
like, and with the judge and the

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therapist, and now they're all 
on the sort of app to 

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communicate and, you know, 
saying what they couldn't, 

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couldn't do and whatnot. 
So that's interesting. 

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Yeah, very. 
Yeah, no, I was kind of rolling 

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my eyes at the whole idea of 
like, I rang the bell on the 

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NASDAQ and I rang the bell on 
the NYSE and I was just like, 

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that's like such a symbolic 
thing these days. 

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But like, and it's not like 
trade, I guess trading does 

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begin when with the gavel, but 
it's not like, you know, back in

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the 80s and 90s when it was all 
hell and mayhem once that 

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happened. 
But it's just a weird thing that

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both of them had that 
opportunity. 

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It was just something that I 
don't think about on a regular 

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basis, so. 
Right, Right. 

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Yeah, I agree. 
My sister's actually done that. 

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Has she? 
Yeah, I think my sister's done 

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that. 
She works. 

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She works in the finance 
industry in Manhattan and isn't 

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that terrible. 
She probably told us. 

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And we were like, oh wow, that's
really cool. 

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But now we know Gertie and Lisa.
Did it? 

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Yeah. 
Gertie did it right. 

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I'm excited that Gertie and Lisa
did it, though. 

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There you go. 
Yes. 

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Priorities. 
Priorities ancestors. 

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They know who I am. 
There you go. 

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We find out that Alexia, her 
divorce is final now. 

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And as of the taping of the 
reunion, she has no contact with

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Todd. 
But I mean, after the reunion, 

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everyone saw the video that Todd
put out. 

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Like what are your thoughts on 
that? 

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Which video was? 
Yeah, I don't think someone. 

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He's talking about so he put out
a video suing Bravo. 

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00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,200
Yes. 
Do you guys didn't see it? 

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00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,080
No, this is breaking news for 
us. 

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Yes, so he so that was after the
reunion film, after it filmed. 

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Yes, before it aired, after it 
filmed, he put out a video like 

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a 10 minute long video. 
And Todd is known for his videos

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about the truth of really what 
happened with him and Alexia and

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that he did not leave Frankie 
alone like she made it sound 

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like. 
And that Frankie's father is 

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very involved in Frankie's life,
which we've never heard. 

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And that he's been there for 
Frankie. 

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And he fought to get Peter and 
Frankie compensated on the show 

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and really a little bit more 
about what really was happening.

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And that he is. 
If you go to his Instagram you 

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can watch it still. 
Yeah, all. 

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Right. 
Yeah, I just kind of stay away 

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from all things Todd because 
just honestly, I'm just so tired

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of hearing about him. 
And so like, even in this 

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episode where she's like, oh, 
we're have no contact. 

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I'm like, but by the time the 
new season starts, are you going

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to be talking about him again? 
Is he going to be back in your 

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life? 
You're going to be having 

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nooners with him? 
Like I just. 

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Exactly. 
So over it. 

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Do you believe the Todd video or
what are your thoughts on that? 

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I believe the Todd video, I, I 
actually think Todd has more 

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credibility than she does, to be
quite honest with you, because I

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think with with her, it's all 
about her staying relevant on 

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Miami. 
She's not, she's not giving up. 

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She's not giving up that mojito 
even though she said would, even

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though she said she would. 
She's not giving up that mojito.

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She's not. 
And what he said on the video is

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right. 
So he wasn't shown in a very 

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good light last season. 
I mean, he it was his actions 

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and you know, production does 
what they do. 

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He not only, you know, left 
Alexia and and they're 

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separated, but he wants nothing 
to do with the show. 

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However, Alexia's whole 
storyline this season was him. 

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But that's not Bravo's fault. 
That's Alexia's fault. 

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That's Alexia. 
Yeah. 

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00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,400
For sure. 
She just kept making it all 

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about him and, you know, would 
have would have enjoyed more 

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about her separate from him. 
But you know, we don't always 

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00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:18,840
get that. 
I. 

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Think the part about their 
father was very interesting that

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how involved he is in their 
lives. 

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00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:27,840
But you don't ever hear that. 
Never. 

429
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:30,560
Not once. 
She's never once, right? 

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00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,000
No, from her. 
She's never once said anything 

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00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:37,520
about Frankie and Peter's father
on the show in a positive, you 

432
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:40,000
know, ever. 
Yeah, I don't think I've ever 

433
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heard anything out of her mouth 
about anyone other than Todd. 

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00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:43,840
You really. 
So you know. 

435
00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,160
And the other and the other 
husband who died? 

436
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:53,120
Herman yeah, and she does 
finally admit so. 

437
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,680
Wendy and I have literally both 
been watching Housewives since 

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00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,960
OC first season 2006. 
Like non, did you ever take a 

439
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:03,360
break? 
Were there some seasons you were

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00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:04,360
like Nope? 
Nope. 

441
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:05,840
Nope. 
I have. 

442
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,000
I didn't watch Atlanta for a few
seasons. 

443
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:11,360
You gave up on Atlanta and you 
never watched Dubai? 

444
00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:15,000
I never watched Dubai. 
You're OK. 

445
00:21:15,120 --> 00:21:16,720
Dubai was good though. 
I mean, it was I. 

446
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,000
Liked I liked Dubai. 
I liked it. 

447
00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,120
Was good. 
So that's what happened with us.

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00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,360
We would go during COVID, we 
walked every night with our 

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00:21:26,360 --> 00:21:28,680
other friend Lori, and we drank 
wine. 

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00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,480
I mean, really, we went to, we 
did work, we worked. 

451
00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,080
But come 5:00, it was walking, 
talking about housewives 

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00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,880
drinking wine was our life. 
And that's where we, Lori used 

453
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,720
to make fun of us. 
She was like, Oh my God, you act

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00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,680
like they're your friends. 
We're like, well, we've kind of 

455
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,360
feel like they are. 
We're vested. 

456
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:48,520
Except Teresa. 
She and I are not friends. 

457
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,800
Never happened. 
No, you're not a good place. 

458
00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:58,440
No, we are not in a good place. 
So then that's how we started 

459
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,160
saying we're, oh, we're going to
do a podcast. 

460
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,160
So I mean, can we if I can hand 
derail the conversation. 

461
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,320
I mean, if picking up that you 
know, you're not very happy on 

462
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,600
Teresa, does that mean your team
Melissa necessarily or is that? 

463
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,600
Percent. 
I always have been since she. 

464
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,080
Well, I will say this because I 
always do say this. 

465
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,520
I do think the christening was 
Joe Gorga's fault. 

466
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,160
Oh yeah, I can. 
See. 

467
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,600
OK, I can see that. 
However, everything that took 

468
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:28,200
place after that 100% Teresa's 
fault and Kim D but and I think 

469
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,280
that they were fine, and I've 
said this before, they were 

470
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,400
totally fine. 
And then Louis entered, and he. 

471
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,240
Effed. 
Yes. 

472
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:37,760
Disrupted it all. 
Yeah, Louis really, really 

473
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280
screwed up Jersey and. 
Many levels. 

474
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,600
So many levels. 
Many, many, many levels. 

475
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,560
Many, many, many levels. 
He's just so. 

476
00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,920
Creepy he is. 
And listen, it's out there. 

477
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,800
Like his sisters knew where her 
shore house was or wherever. 

478
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,560
I don't know if she still has 
that shore house in. 

479
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,920
She doesn't. 
What the Hell's her? 

480
00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:58,440
What the hell town is it? 
Whatever. 

481
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,720
Right outside of LBI. 
She was right outside of LBI. 

482
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:05,960
But her, his sisters knew where 
she was going to be and they 

483
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,680
told him and he went there and 
he stalked her and he haunted 

484
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,200
her down. 
Yeah, dude wants to be famous. 

485
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,400
Woo at all expenses. 
I was going to make a joke about

486
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,880
him being red but the lighting 
on me right now has me a little 

487
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,720
bit too. 
Red facing. 

488
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:22,560
No. 
I have no room. 

489
00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,760
You're. 
Fine, I can never make a joke 

490
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,000
about being red because every 
time I drink wine I get red. 

491
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,040
Excellent. 
Well, that is why we are we wine

492
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:33,960
whenever because whenever we 
talk about housewives, we drink 

493
00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:35,840
wine. 
It's only appropriate. 

494
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,440
Right. 
Alexia did finally admit that 

495
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,160
the Narcissist Party was about 
Todd. 

496
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,400
I swear she said that at the 
time that like she said 

497
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,840
something along the lines of 
like they were like we're going 

498
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,640
to forget about Todd and like da
da da da. 

499
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,520
And I just swear she mentioned 
it, but I could be imagining it.

500
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:51,960
I don't. 
Know. 

501
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:55,840
No, she definitely did. 
And then she did a 180 and was 

502
00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,200
like, this is about you girls. 
Yeah. 

503
00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:01,520
Yeah, sure. 
This narc party, which I still 

504
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,080
don't know that they knew what 
that really meant. 

505
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,920
They don't. 
They really don't. 

506
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,360
Narc Party. 
Red flag, yeah. 

507
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,040
Yeah, yeah. 
So then the first thing Andy 

508
00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,720
brings up is one of the things 
that the viewers really reacted 

509
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,160
to was the lack of reaction to 
the water toss. 

510
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,960
And then Alexia jumps in and 
says, well, looking back and re 

511
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,320
watching this, like I, I should 
have said something. 

512
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,000
The way that Julia disrespected 
Gertie was not OK. 

513
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,000
It was not all right. 
We have said this and I will 

514
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:32,200
continue to say this. 
There was not enough reaction. 

515
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,320
Gertie was done wrong and they 
did not stand by her. 

516
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:41,080
And I think that even when Andy 
brings it up in this reunion, I 

517
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,040
still don't think it gets the 
respect that it deserves. 

518
00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,880
And I still don't think they 
hear party. 

519
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,200
They all start talking about 
when it's happened to them, 

520
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:51,480
right, right. 
Like season this, it happened to

521
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,520
me. 
You threw a glass at me and you 

522
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:54,880
know. 
It's like, what about all? 

523
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,440
Made it about themselves. 
Yeah, yeah. 

524
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,640
And just still didn't even 
acknowledge the fact that like, 

525
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:03,400
yeah, this most recent time it 
happened to you and it was awful

526
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,880
and it shouldn't have. 
And they, none of them wanted to

527
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,520
take any ownership for the fact 
that they, you know, really 

528
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,280
rushed out and were just like, 
they didn't, they were just 

529
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,240
appalled that it was happening. 
I don't know. 

530
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,800
I'm at well it's so worked out. 
Dial, dial. 

531
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:20,440
I think they, yeah, I think the 
whole couch was just very irked 

532
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,960
and in the way that they had to 
talk about it, and they were 

533
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,760
very defensive and very quick to
want it, wanting to shut it 

534
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,400
down. 
But what's crazy is that when 

535
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:35,920
you see the lot, the unseen 
footage, they did reprimand 

536
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,960
Julie at the time, which I think
I don't understand why Bravo 

537
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:43,680
didn't show that because it 
changes the narrative a lot, you

538
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:45,280
know? 
So it's it's just really weird. 

539
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,640
The only thing I can think of is
that that it was kind of 

540
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,760
acknowledging that they the 4th 
wall. 

541
00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,120
I was acknowledging they were on
a show when they were having 

542
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:54,840
that conversation. 
But the way they choose so Willy

543
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,960
nilly these days when to 
acknowledge they're on a show 

544
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:58,800
and not. 
So why not add a little bit more

545
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,360
to that? 
Those two, it's like they just 

546
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:04,480
they still, even if they did say
something to her, they still all

547
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:08,280
sat with her and she was allowed
us to stay and they continued on

548
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,040
in a very awkward, I'm sure 
moment when they Marisol could 

549
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,160
have said, you know, this is my 
engaged no wedding party, 

550
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,240
whatever, whatever it was. 
I think you should go, Julia, 

551
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,200
you're obviously really 
emotional. 

552
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,520
You know, it's just it's not a 
good time and not a good look, 

553
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,960
But instead they're like, oh, 
let's just have her stay. 

554
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,040
And then it just went on from 
there. 

555
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,320
So I don't know, it just it was 
very messy. 

556
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,960
Even with the unseen footage, 
it's it's still very messy. 

557
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,960
And I don't think the people on 
that couch, the non Gertie 

558
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,240
couch, care about Gertie and I 
think they're highly annoyed 

559
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,960
about the situation. 
And yeah. 

560
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,920
They're definitely annoyed about
it. 

561
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,200
They're not. 
They they, they were clearly 

562
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,640
trying to ice her out. 
I mean, the response to her 

563
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,600
putting those texts up compared 
to the response of the water 

564
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:01,080
toss, I mean, the difference was
like, are you kidding me? 

565
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,000
And that's crazy. 
They were probably thinking 

566
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,880
about all the backlash on 
social, the rightful backlash on

567
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,880
social media, having Gertie's 
back. 

568
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,040
Like, yeah, that was bullshit. 
Absolutely. 

569
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,960
And that's where I was getting a
little heated just now is that 

570
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,400
they, when they, the the text 
reveal party, they get all 

571
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,920
worked up and like, that's just 
things you shouldn't do to your 

572
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,200
friends. 
And they all leave the party to 

573
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,720
console Julia instead of going 
back and reading the texts and 

574
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,400
seeing, like, to them, those 
texts could have told us who 

575
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,760
killed JFK and all, you know, 
the world's top secrets. 

576
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,560
And they wouldn't really with 
them because they were too long.

577
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,440
And they felt that it was, you 
know, betraying a secret, you 

578
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,280
know, just so ridiculous. 
Ridiculous. 

579
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:43,000
It was ridiculous. 
And then even when Andy asks if 

580
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,840
she's going to accept Alexia's 
apology, there was never an 

581
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:48,920
apology. 
And that's what Curly said. 

582
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,080
Like there was not an apology. 
How? 

583
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,600
How can you accept? 
And then she went on. 

584
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,640
This was the first time I got 
annoyed with Andy during this 

585
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,360
reunion. 
This was the first time because 

586
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:01,360
there were more. 
He just wants wants to move on, 

587
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,920
move on, move on, right? 
If you don't have time to do 

588
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,520
these reunions, then get 
somebody else to do it because 

589
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:08,160
you can't just rush through 
that. 

590
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:09,200
Right. 
Yeah. 

591
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,400
And that's what he did. 
And I'm glad that Gertie said, 

592
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,680
you know what? 
What apology. 

593
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,320
There wasn't an apology. 
And I'm glad that she wouldn't, 

594
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,720
wouldn't agree to say, yeah, I'm
just going to, I'm just going to

595
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,840
let this go because it shouldn't
be let go. 

596
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,880
It shouldn't. 
Yeah, I feel something about 

597
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,720
Gertie's response, like, well, I
agree with her playing it the 

598
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,880
way she did. 
It's still, it's not connecting,

599
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,000
I think the way that she was 
hoping it would because she just

600
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,720
seemed like she was, you know, 
her whole thing saying, oh, I'm 

601
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,920
just here to listen more than 
I'm going to speak. 

602
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,440
But then she didn't. 
And then she didn't. 

603
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,600
Oh, and especially the next 
segment when she just kept 

604
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,800
interrupting. 
Well, Adriana was trying to help

605
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,120
her, and she's like, no, no, no,
no, let me. 

606
00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,320
And then in comparison, Julia 
was very docile. 

607
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:51,880
And what do I need to do, 
Gertie? 

608
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,240
What do I have to do to get you 
to forgive me? 

609
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,920
And, you know, Gertie just 
seemed like more hyped up. 

610
00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,240
And I think maybe Julia did that
by design of like, I'm just 

611
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,120
going to sit here and be the 
nice one. 

612
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,720
And I apologize five times and, 
you know, yes. 

613
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:09,880
Patronizing. 
Patronizing. 

614
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,040
Yes exactly, I agree with you on
that and playing like the damsel

615
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,400
in distress. 
Like I don't buy it with any of 

616
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,040
these ladies. 
Not a damn one of them is the 

617
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,000
damsel in distress. 
No, not with that wet hair. 

618
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,320
That's what is with the wet 
hair. 

619
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Listen, we saw her at the at the
Virtual Reality Awards. 

620
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,840
We saw her in New York City, but
like 2 weeks ago, same hair. 

621
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,600
I'm like, what is she doing? 
I don't know it just it's. 

622
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,360
Dry the hair, dry the hair. 
Just dry. 

623
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,760
Yeah, I mean it was better than 
that one confessional look where

624
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,840
she had the two Squiggy lines 
coming down. 

625
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,000
She look like Squiggy from Happy
Day. 

626
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,120
What are? 
You understand? 

627
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,360
Blow dryer broke. 
She's got a team, she's got a 

628
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,720
team that's doing this to her. 
It's not even like she's doing 

629
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,680
it herself. 
Her team doesn't like her. 

630
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,720
Exactly. 
We're starting to get convinced 

631
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,080
that these girls glam teams are 
like, you know what? 

632
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,440
Now it looks great. 
You look great like Lisa Barlow 

633
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,920
and that. 
One smoky eye. 

634
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,120
All. 
You need, that's all you need is

635
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,680
1 smoky eye. 
It's the new thing. 

636
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,280
Everyone's doing it. 
Gigi had to eat it. 

637
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:15,120
Oh my God, one smoky eye. 
She would totally follow along 

638
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:15,960
too. 
She'd be like, yeah. 

639
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:23,360
Gigi Hadid, I love that. 
Can I say I know her if I do 

640
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,440
this? 
Because when I'm together with 

641
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,360
Blake and Ben. 
Oh, my God, that's so funny. 

642
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,240
What's next? 
So Kiki? 

643
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,920
Then Kiki jumps in and she said,
you know, at the event, you 

644
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,520
know, we were good. 
And then all of a sudden I hear 

645
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,200
that there's a problem and I'm 
being called a racist. 

646
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:47,760
Oh, I don't know how this got 
thrown into the reunion at this 

647
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:48,880
part. 
Like, Oh yeah. 

648
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,480
I feel like. 
Andy jumps in and and tries to 

649
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,800
explain like what what's going 
on on social media. 

650
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,840
Anytime Kiki was tagged in the 
post, they were saying that she 

651
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:03,120
was racist because of the way 
that she was trying to remove 

652
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,600
her from the situation. 
Saying that she looked like an 

653
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,440
angry black woman because she 
because the the way she was 

654
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,960
trying to get Gertie out of that
situation. 

655
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,680
She was acting as if Gertie were
the problem and Gertie was being

656
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,400
aggressive, which anybody 
watching that would see that 

657
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,840
that was not the case, right? 
I mean, that's that's not how I 

658
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,120
saw it. 
Gertie was not going to 

659
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:29,320
retaliate physically. 
She's wanted to have a you know,

660
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,440
they are, they were fighting, 
but she was not going to put her

661
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,080
hands on Julia. 
And the way that Kiki was trying

662
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,320
to pull her away as if she was 
trying to break up a fight. 

663
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,400
And there was no fight. 
Gertie sat there very calmly, 

664
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,080
wet after having water thrown on
her when she could have reacted 

665
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,760
so many other ways. 
So I would have, and so many 

666
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,000
other housewives IE Alexia, 
Marisol, Larsa would have had a 

667
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,600
much different reaction than 
Gertie. 

668
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,760
So Julia, absolutely. 
Julia would not be walking this 

669
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,800
earth if she had done that to 
Alexia, plain and simple. 

670
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,840
And if you're going to try to 
remove anybody from the 

671
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,640
situation, remove Julia. 
She's the one that just got 

672
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,480
physical. 
Yeah, exactly. 

673
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,560
With your friend. 
Right. 

674
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,960
Friend. 
Yeah, yeah. 

675
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

676
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,200
So. 
Yeah, I forgot about that. 

677
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:17,400
That was interesting. 
Like. 

678
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,520
Kiki's racist was like as random
as like Adriana's racist 

679
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,840
comment. 
Like during the finale party of 

680
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,400
like they're going to say I'm 
racist. 

681
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:26,760
I'm like, where did this come 
from? 

682
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,000
No one's saying that you're 
racist. 

683
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,320
We felt the same way, yeah, Like
we didn't see it. 

684
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,000
We're going to clarify something
and show us that something at 

685
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:39,000
the reunion that we haven't seen
before, which will be super 

686
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,200
annoying. 
We have not seen anything 

687
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,040
indicating that what you say 
Kiki called her a racist that 

688
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,760
that Kiki insinuated that 
Adriana was racist. 

689
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,000
Right. 
Or that the, or that social 

690
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,240
media was saying that Kiki was 
racist. 

691
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:53,600
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

692
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,960
So they might say like, oh, 
you're not supporting your 

693
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240
fellow black woman in this 
position. 

694
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,960
But I don't think that's that. 
That's not racist. 

695
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:02,920
That's just yeah. 
Right. 

696
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,320
Anyhow, I don't know when it 
gets. 

697
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,040
And for some reason to yell 
more, right? 

698
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:09,360
I know. 
And when it, when it gets like 

699
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,120
that for the audience, honestly,
it's very confusing. 

700
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:13,960
It's it's like, what are you 
doing? 

701
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,000
Like, why is this what the focus
is? 

702
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,960
Because then this isn't what it 
was about. 

703
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,440
It wasn't about that. 
And I'll be honest with you, at 

704
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,880
this point, I'm still trying to 
figure out how the hell 

705
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:25,080
Stephanie got in the first seat 
next to Andy. 

706
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,480
Yeah, we haven't even talked 
about her yet. 

707
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,920
And the first reunion, the first
episode's almost over. 

708
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,280
We haven't even talked to her or
about her yet. 

709
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,160
Well, I mean in her in her 
defense, I mean she spent the 

710
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,080
1st 4 episodes talking about how
rich she was and kind of giving 

711
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,960
the intro like hi, I'm new on 
the scene. 

712
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,400
She wasn't even in the 1st 2 
episodes I don't think. 

713
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:45,160
So she wasn't. 
You're right. 

714
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:47,200
So. 
I think chronologically we got 

715
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:49,120
to give her a little bit more 
time, but yeah, I don't think 

716
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,280
she still deserves first chair. 
I think, I think Massoud bought 

717
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:54,840
it. 
He bought her the first seat. 

718
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,080
Listen, he upgraded her. 
He upgraded her to the 

719
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:01,280
presidential seat, the 
presidential suite, and the 

720
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,280
first seat. 
And in all honesty, I don't 

721
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,240
think Alexia deserves the first 
seat either. 

722
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,679
Like I know she's the OG, but 
why? 

723
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,080
Because she's getting divorced? 
I don't know why she was there. 

724
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,679
It should have been Julia and 
Gertie. 

725
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,440
They Yeah. 
But then Julia would have been 

726
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,960
in the first seat. 
Right. 

727
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,199
Yeah, well. 
That's true. 

728
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,320
And they probably didn't want to
do that because of all the 

729
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,000
backlash on social media. 
She's yeah. 

730
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,719
That's a good point. 
They put Tamara there every 

731
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,560
time. 
So you know who else was always 

732
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,760
there? 
Teresa. 

733
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,280
I know. 
Teresa was only not first seat 

734
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,880
like that first season. 
That's the only other time she 

735
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,560
was not first seat. 
I think you're absolutely right.

736
00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:39,639
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

737
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:43,080
Because second season she was 
when she literally physically 

738
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:47,239
pushed Andy down and then after 
that Melissa came on and then it

739
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,760
was all about Teresa and 
Melissa. 

740
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:49,360
So you're. 
Right. 

741
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,719
Yeah, interesting. 
Wow. 

742
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,840
I don't think we'll have that 
problem anymore. 

743
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,760
Just another trivia. 
Just another question to add to 

744
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,160
our trivia game that we're going
to write. 

745
00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,840
One day Wendy and I are going to
write a Housewives trivia game. 

746
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:02,440
I would love it. 
We will. 

747
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,680
Play it all the time. 
So then Lisa says, well, we want

748
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,760
to hear like what Julia has to 
say. 

749
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,040
So Andy asks Julia, like, what 
made you throw the water that 

750
00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:14,840
night? 
And Julia, you know, she starts 

751
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120
well, you know, I understand, 
like watching the footage to 

752
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,880
Adriana, like brings you back to
this horrible place. 

753
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,280
You know, that was out of my 
character. 

754
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,600
It was slightly enhanced because
of alcohol, which I will say she

755
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,600
was. 
She was drunk, But that is no 

756
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:31,720
excuse. 
That's just no excuse. 

757
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:36,800
You know, nothing I did was 
planned or rehearsed. 

758
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,560
Well, I, I, I agree that that 
specific moment wasn't planned 

759
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,880
to rehearse. 
But I will say what you said at 

760
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:49,040
the end of this episode was 100%
planned and rehearsed. 

761
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,520
For sure, for sure. 
She workshopped that, yeah. 

762
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,400
Her big palm shell that she 
dropped. 

763
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,640
Yeah. 
Yeah, she, she was the cat. 

764
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,160
She had the Canary in her mouth 
the whole time and just waiting 

765
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,920
to open up and just let that 
thing out. 

766
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,560
So she was working on it. 
Yeah. 

767
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,280
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

768
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,560
Yeah, I think the the one true 
thing that she did say during 

769
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,560
that that first bit was 
basically that she she saw an 

770
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,560
opportunity to impress Alexia 
and Marisol and that's why she 

771
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:16,440
threw the water is she wanted to
be reactive. 

772
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,800
She wanted to like, get them to,
you know, pity, not pity her, 

773
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,720
but like, take her side. 
And that's, that's what got her 

774
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,480
throw in the water. 
She wanted her moment. 

775
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,880
And I think that's also what 
pissed her off is that Gertie 

776
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,600
called her out. 
You just wanted a moment, you 

777
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,040
know, So you've had it now. 
And now what you know. 

778
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,840
And now you look like a big 
Jackass. 

779
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,160
It backfired. 
And especially when Gertie 

780
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,400
remained as calm as she did and 
didn't react the way that Julia 

781
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,400
wanted, It didn't work out for 
her. 

782
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,280
So. 
Because if Gertie had reacted 

783
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,160
the way that Julia wanted, it 
would have been all about 

784
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,960
Gertie. 
Then she would for sure be the 

785
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,440
angry black woman who attacked 
Julia. 

786
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,640
And yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, you got it. 

787
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:55,920
That's it. 
That's 100% it. 

788
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,240
Yeah. 
Then Marisol brings up the fact 

789
00:37:01,240 --> 00:37:03,360
that she did take her to the 
bathroom. 

790
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,960
And then we see that footage 
where she, you know, she tried 

791
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,200
to talk to Julia and said that, 
you know, she didn't, that this,

792
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,600
you know, we don't do that. 
This is not acceptable. 

793
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:14,200
And then they just keep bringing
back up again. 

794
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,000
All the other times, all 
throughout this reunion, they're

795
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,520
bringing back up all the other 
times that this has happened 

796
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,920
with the ice bucket. 
And, you know, Marisol starts 

797
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:26,440
yelling at Gertie. 
You didn't, you weren't there 

798
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:29,320
with the ice bucket when Julia 
threw it at me. 

799
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,320
And Gertie said, show the 
footage. 

800
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:34,800
And they show the footage. 
And Gertie immediately got up, 

801
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,720
grabbed the ice bucket out of 
her hand like she was there for 

802
00:37:37,720 --> 00:37:39,440
her. 
And Marisol's still standing on 

803
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,120
this platform. 
Like, no, you know, you didn't 

804
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,920
stand up for me. 
Why should I stand up for you? 

805
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,880
Because that's what I mean. 
They made it. 

806
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,160
All about themselves, like they 
just did. 

807
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,320
Like what about when this one 
did this to me? 

808
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,480
And what about when this one did
this? 

809
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,480
OK, well, but the behavior was 
wrong then and the behavior is 

810
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,400
wrong now. 
So how about we try to stop the 

811
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,160
cycle and make someone 
accountable for their actions? 

812
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,000
Because they can't see that, 
like, that conversation was 

813
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,680
going nowhere. 
It was just going around in 

814
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,520
circles and like pointing 
fingers like the spider man meme

815
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,960
of like who did went wrong and 
and it was you know, and they 

816
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,760
were never going to get you a 
little and because they. 

817
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,280
Were trying to ice Gertie out 
and they were trying to, you 

818
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,840
know, make her feel separate 
from from everyone else. 

819
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,240
They they were doing the whole, 
it's just hazing of sorts. 

820
00:38:23,240 --> 00:38:25,240
Like, well, it happened to us, 
so it happened to you. 

821
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:27,720
It's not a big deal. 
It's like, well, you know, maybe

822
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:29,320
it shouldn't be happening to 
people. 

823
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,880
That shouldn't be a rite of 
passage on the housewives 

824
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,680
necessarily, as much fun as it 
can be to watch. 

825
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,120
But, you know, at least let it 
be a napkin, not a glass of 

826
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,200
water. 
Right, right. 

827
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,480
I mean, and I don't know how you
guys felt about Doctor Nicole, 

828
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,920
but we love Doctor Nicole and I 
think that that's, I think she 

829
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,440
was one of the classiest, you 
know, successful. 

830
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,680
She's a good housewife. 
Well, we saw her. 

831
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,000
Yeah, like her. 
She's we. 

832
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,120
Don't really know, we don't 
really know much about her but I

833
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,520
like that one scene when she 
went to lunch with Gertie and 

834
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,680
from what I've heard about her 
she found it's like everyone 

835
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:08,320
talks so highly of her and was 
so sad when she didn't come back

836
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,720
this season but understood why 
she didn't so. 

837
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,560
So she said that one of the 
friends, I believe it to be 

838
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,440
Marisol, basically hired a 
private investigator to follow 

839
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:24,080
her and her partner around to 
get dirt on them to use for the 

840
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,760
next season. 
I mean who? 

841
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:29,480
First of all, she sold her house
to Jeff Bezos mother, so she 

842
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:33,200
clearly doesn't need the money 
would put themselves in that 

843
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,800
position. 
But that's. 

844
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,240
So when you said hazing, you're 
absolutely right. 

845
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,880
They were not nice to doctor 
Nicole when she came on the show

846
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,960
because Alexia and Marisol and I
don't care how much money they 

847
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,200
have. 
They were very intimidated by 

848
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,640
her. 
They were jealous of her. 

849
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:49,320
I thought the. 
Difference was Stephanie because

850
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:54,200
she seems to have theoretically 
as much money as Doctor Nicole. 

851
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,080
She was a bit at least under 
control because she was Larsa's 

852
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,920
friend. 
So there wasn't as much of A 

853
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,680
threat. 
So Alexia and, and even though 

854
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:04,240
they have their, their shoes, 
Alexia Marisol with Stephanie, 

855
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,440
at the end of the day, they, you
know, they can keep her like 

856
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:12,520
calm in a sense, whereas Nicole 
was, from what I hear, wasn't 

857
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,480
having it. 
And they, I think that when you 

858
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,200
have a housewife who's going to 
like, try to challenge the 

859
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,560
status quo and the Ogs, they get
really threatened by it. 

860
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:24,000
She definitely challenged 
Alexia. 

861
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,120
Dr. Nicole definitely challenged
Alexia. 

862
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:27,880
And I was. 
She needs that second of it, 

863
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:29,240
yeah. 
But that's the thing too, it's 

864
00:40:29,240 --> 00:40:32,320
like if you realize if you 
really believe in like what's 

865
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,040
good for the show, you want to 
have different points of view to

866
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,840
make it interesting, you have to
like remove yourself. 

867
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,480
I think from I don't like this 
girl to like, but everyone, a 

868
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,520
lot of people do like her. 
She has fans. 

869
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,640
It's a different point of view. 
It adds drama to the show. 

870
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,800
Like this isn't best friend 
show. 

871
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:50,600
It's housewives. 
So right. 

872
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:55,160
So like, they try to, it seems 
to me watching Miami and how 

873
00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:00,360
they operate off camera, they 
try to play casting director and

874
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,640
ice people out and get people in
and it's like just sit back and 

875
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,920
be a housewife, you know, don't.
Produce and know your role, 

876
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,680
Marisol acts. 
You know, off camera. 

877
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,400
I think when she does these 
podcasts and stuff, Marisol acts

878
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,640
like she actually has something 
to do with the casting. 

879
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,640
Yeah. 
Well, I will she a friend of. 

880
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,880
She is a friend of, but after 
the big bombshell that came at 

881
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:27,800
the end about the Hamptons trip,
I went back and I rewatched that

882
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,560
episode. 
I watched the couple episodes 

883
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:33,240
from Season 4, and that was 
Doctor Nicole's first season. 

884
00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:37,160
And in the Hamptons, Marisol 
really started and I forgot, you

885
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,440
know, because I hadn't seen it 
in a while. 

886
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:42,280
Marisol really started in on 
Doctor Nicole saying that I 

887
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,080
heard that you did this, I heard
that you did that. 

888
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:49,840
And really it comes down to is 
that Marisol is very close with 

889
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,560
production. 
Marisol is the one who moves the

890
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:55,080
storyline along. 
Anna has said it, many people 

891
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,680
have said it who have worked on 
the show. 

892
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,840
Marisol and production are very 
tight. 

893
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:04,880
And Marisol did not want Doctor 
Nicole there because like you 

894
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,800
said, she was threatened by her.
She's successful. 

895
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,480
She's independent and she's 
articulate. 

896
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,520
And she, she did whatever she 
had to do and she immediately 

897
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,080
went after her. 
I mean, at the Hamptons house, 

898
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,280
she said to her, oh, let's play 
a game. 

899
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,400
Who at this table do you trust 
the least? 

900
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,120
Is that where that comes from? 
Yes, yes. 

901
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,240
OK, I've heard about that. 
OK. 

902
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,960
Yeah, Marisol said. 
We need to rewatch. 

903
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,000
That we shared. 
Yeah, yeah, you have to rewatch 

904
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:32,760
it. 
It's season 4 and we're watching

905
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,040
it. 
Yeah. 

906
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,240
Yeah, exactly. 
It's season 4 and she just 

907
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:41,960
starts out by stirring the pot 
and and trying to paint Doctor 

908
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,680
Nicole in a bad light. 
And Doctor Nicole comes back 

909
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,880
with, well, you know, Alexia 
said the only reason you got 

910
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,360
married to Steve is so that you 
were relevant. 

911
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,720
And Alexia's like, I didn't say 
that to you. 

912
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,040
And she's like, now she's trying
to come between me and Marisol. 

913
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,680
And we've been friends for 20 
years, you know? 

914
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,520
And then, of course, then she 
has Alexia going after Doctor 

915
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:08,120
Nicole because she stood up for 
herself. 

916
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,640
So you'll see. 
Larsa gets in on it, too. 

917
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,840
Larsa. 
Is it that season or the other 

918
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:13,840
season? 
Larsa says. 

919
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,400
I heard you slept at the whole 
hospital or something. 

920
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:17,600
Yeah. 
Larsa does. 

921
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,000
She said that. 
Yeah, she did A lot of people. 

922
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:21,840
Yeah. 
There's. 

923
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,240
A lot of ground to cover, you 
know, doctors, nurses, female, 

924
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:28,840
male. 
That's a lot of people, yeah. 

925
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,800
You know, all the franchises 
have have the similar problem 

926
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,200
where they're always trying to 
take down another housewife or 

927
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,760
another. 
And I know that's part of the 

928
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,320
drama for some people. 
I just would prefer if every 

929
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,040
every time they just made 
themselves more interesting. 

930
00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:45,080
Like don't just track the fact 
that you don't have anything 

931
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,640
going on other than the same old
shit over and over and over 

932
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,600
again. 
Just get something new so we can

933
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,120
focus on what makes you a good 
housewife and not what makes 

934
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,480
this other person necessarily an
allegedly bad housewife or 

935
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,400
boring or whatever it's like. 
Right. 

936
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,640
Like bring something to the 
conversation, yeah. 

937
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:04,600
Totally agree. 
And listen, Wendy and I have 

938
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,520
said it a million times, that's 
what Housewives was when it 

939
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,040
first started. 
It was just successful, you 

940
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:16,360
know, affluent women who were 
raising their families, some 

941
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,120
working, some not, some married,
some not, but they were just 

942
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:23,400
women with wealth and we got to 
see their lives. 

943
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:29,520
Gina Keogh was married to an ex 
ballplayer raising 3 kids in 

944
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:34,240
Cotto de Casa and opened up her 
whole home to us, you know. 

945
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:38,880
Meanwhile, her husband was an 
alcoholic their whole marriage 

946
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,040
and you know, got to learn that.
But she was such a good 

947
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,960
housewife, Gina. 
That's what we like to say. 

948
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,440
I swear I think Tamara's the one
who started this whole coming 

949
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,400
after the other housewives. 
But maybe I shouldn't put all 

950
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,080
the blame on her. 
I just remember, did you go to 

951
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,760
Bass Lake? 
Like, to me, that changed the 

952
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,960
whole game in Housewives. 
And we're still looking. 

953
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:04,880
We're still talking about it. 
Yes. 

954
00:45:05,240 --> 00:45:07,880
I didn't watch OC when we first 
started watching. 

955
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,200
He was like I like why don't we 
watch the OC? 

956
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,600
And he was like, he's like, I 
can't tell any of them apart. 

957
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:14,960
They all look exactly the same. 
I don't like anybody on the 

958
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:17,280
show. 
So we didn't start watching 

959
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,840
until Tamara came back. 
And the only reason is because 

960
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,640
we listened to two T's and when 
she's on her podcast she seems 

961
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:26,200
very, very reasonable. 
But then when she gets on the 

962
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,840
show, she gets into on screen 
Tamra mode and it just gets a 

963
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:31,640
little wackadoo if you ask me. 
But. 

964
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:35,200
But yeah, we still defend it. 
It's funny you say that because 

965
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,920
Wendy and I think we agree on 
this. 

966
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,480
Tamra came on Season 3, you 
know, guns blazing, and by the 

967
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,320
time they got rid of her, I 
think it was time for her to 

968
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,240
take a break. 
I was not a fan of Tamra. 

969
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:50,560
By the time they got rid of her,
I was happy to see her go. 

970
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,920
However, then I started 
listening to two teas in a pot 

971
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,320
and I'm like, Oh my God, like 
this is like a different Tamara.

972
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,760
Like I'm really enjoying her. 
Right. 

973
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,280
She's likable. 
Better back on the show and I'm 

974
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,000
like, Yep, same old Tamara. 
Yeah, they're just Tamara. 

975
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,080
Those lights must come on. 
And she just must just. 

976
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,200
Something happens in her brain 
and. 

977
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,400
I think that's what it is. 
So I think that's what it is. 

978
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:15,720
Yeah. 
Now she she thinks she's doing 

979
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:18,960
her job, so you can't. 
You got to give her credit for 

980
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:20,800
being a good employee. 
Yes. 

981
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:27,240
She gets employee of the year. 
So basically the Julia and 

982
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:31,640
Gertie storyline is that Gertie 
is not going to accept the 

983
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,000
apology and she's not putting a 
Band-Aid on it. 

984
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,680
And I'm glad that she's not. 
I'm glad that she's not going 

985
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,600
to. 
Yeah, I'm glad that she's not. 

986
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,760
Apologies for the sake of 
apologizing. 

987
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,880
I get that they need to move on,
but sometimes you can just tell.

988
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,600
It's like this is going to be 
brought up again 20 more times. 

989
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,160
Like I'd rather just sit with it
and go through it then have to 

990
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,360
pretend we're over it just for 
it to come back three weeks from

991
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,240
now and we gotta, you know, go 
through it all over again so. 

992
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,880
Or just say we'll try again at 
some point. 

993
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,480
We're not in the place to 
forgive. 

994
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,880
But, you know, we're open to 
trying again, right? 

995
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,360
That's honest, yeah. 
Yeah, exactly. 

996
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,400
So then we move on to Stephanie,
and Andy starts out with 

997
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,920
Stephanie flaunting her wealth. 
That was really the big 

998
00:47:15,240 --> 00:47:18,440
storyline, the viewer said. 
Stephanie is plain focused. 

999
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,880
Emphasis on the plane. 
I like a good pun. 

1000
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,160
And Stephanie's response is, I 
thought it was very odd. 

1001
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,400
She's like, well, you know, like
a football player when he wins 

1002
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,920
the Super Bowl, like, he wears 
his rings because he's proud of 

1003
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,000
what he's done, and I'm proud of
what I've done. 

1004
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:40,240
What I think we should all agree
that housewives should never use

1005
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:44,880
analogies, right? 
Because they are unsuccessful 

1006
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,640
every time. 
Yeah. 

1007
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,960
Every time. 
It's the the Jackie Accord. 

1008
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,360
Yeah, it just it never lands. 
Yeah, that Jackie 1 was bad. 

1009
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,440
No. 
No, this one wasn't great 

1010
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,280
either. 
No, no, but I mean, I, I feel as

1011
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,520
though, like they obviously 
brought her on the show and 

1012
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,480
said, you know, we need to give 
you a, a very digestible 

1013
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,360
personality for the first few 
episodes. 

1014
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:11,200
Like we need to give you a 
persona to follow. 

1015
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,880
And I think she's kind of being 
screwed by production in a sense

1016
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,240
that like they definitely amped 
up her wealth, told her to talk 

1017
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:20,080
about it. 
I think that she could have in a

1018
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:22,360
instead of choosing that 
analogy, she could have said 

1019
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,680
something, you know, much more 
diplomatic of like, look, you 

1020
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,320
know, I, I was new, I was 
nervous. 

1021
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:29,080
I just talked about my wealth a 
lot. 

1022
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,440
But I enjoy my life, I have a 
great life and I want to express

1023
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,440
that on the show and you know, 
yadda, yadda, yadda. 

1024
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,480
And my business. 
But it gets a little tacky. 

1025
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:40,160
You. 
Know, I don't know if you guys 

1026
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:42,840
remember this, but do you 
remember when Dana Wilkie was on

1027
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:45,640
Beverly Hills that one season as
Taylor? 

1028
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:51,240
$25,000. 
Yes, and she got so much heat 

1029
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,200
for that. 
And then Andy brought her out on

1030
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,960
the reunion and it was like a 
very honest moment. 

1031
00:48:55,960 --> 00:49:00,960
She was like, listen, I was very
excited to be around you women 

1032
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:05,480
and I knew how much you had and 
I, you know, wanted to fit in. 

1033
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,520
Like it was such an honest 
moment. 

1034
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,760
Like if you didn't like her 
before, you had no choice but to

1035
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,160
like her after that. 
So I agree. 

1036
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,760
I think if Stephanie kind of 
came in and was like, listen, I,

1037
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:19,800
you know, I was happy to be here
and I, you know, I was a little 

1038
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,200
nervous. 
It would have maybe landed a 

1039
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,320
little bit better, but I got. 
Carried away. 

1040
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,400
Yes, exactly. 
I got carried away. 

1041
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,840
I think she's coming back. 
I don't think there's a question

1042
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:31,920
she's coming back. 
I think so too. 

1043
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,400
Yes, yes. 
I like her, she said. 

1044
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,440
What she did learn from watching
the show is that her tone comes 

1045
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:41,320
across as harsh and that, you 
know, she attributes that to the

1046
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,480
fact that she works in a 
predominantly male field and 

1047
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,720
that she can't be soft spoken 
and quiet. 

1048
00:49:47,720 --> 00:49:50,240
But she also learned that she 
can treat friends as 

1049
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:53,200
transactional. 
And I think that that, you know,

1050
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,520
I think that's good insight for 
her. 

1051
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,360
I think that, you know, she's 
excited for her sisters to 

1052
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:03,040
actually watch the show because 
they will see that it's not just

1053
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,280
them that don't like her. 
Her friends don't like her 

1054
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,080
either because of the way she 
is. 

1055
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:10,760
Like at least they'll, you know,
see that this is just, it's who 

1056
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,280
she's she is. 
It's not because of, you know. 

1057
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,120
Right that there she's not not 
being personal to them, it's 

1058
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,680
just this. 
Is right, it's just her 

1059
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:20,240
personality. 
So we'll see how that goes. 

1060
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:24,160
I'm not catch when when 
Stephanie was talking about, you

1061
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:27,720
know, having to be powerful in a
male dominated industry and 

1062
00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:31,480
Gertie was agreeing with her and
basically said like, I feel the 

1063
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,840
same way. 
Did you catch like Alexia and 

1064
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,560
Marisol's reactions to that? 
No. 

1065
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,480
Like they thought it was 
ridiculous that Gertie was like,

1066
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:41,400
I guess you know. 
Including herself. 

1067
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,280
Marisol did have a weird. 
Julia, too, had a weird. 

1068
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,080
You know, maybe it was Marisol 
and Julia. 

1069
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:46,440
Maybe. 
That. 

1070
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,520
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. 
And but that was also the moment

1071
00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,920
when when Gertie was over on the
other couch, just like kind of 

1072
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,040
interjecting every uh huh. 
She was, she was, she was 

1073
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,320
amening her a bit much. 
Yes, Yeah. 

1074
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:59,440
It's not your segment anymore, 
Gertie. 

1075
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:01,240
Yeah, let's. 
I know over time. 

1076
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,240
And now I don't like when they 
do that. 

1077
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:04,840
I really don't. 
Yeah. 

1078
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:09,880
Like silently agree. 
Yes, just not just not just not 

1079
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,680
just not. 
Then a viewer asks that they 

1080
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,360
don't believe that she met 
Masood at a basketball game, 

1081
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,680
that she was hired by the 
ex-wife as an assistant. 

1082
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,440
So she goes on to explain that 
she's never met Masood's 

1083
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,120
ex-wife, that that is not true, 
that he was actually separated 

1084
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,560
for eight years. 
And she said this on podcast. 

1085
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:33,240
Like, this is something she's 
been saying throughout the 

1086
00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:35,880
season before, you know, she 
even met him. 

1087
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,120
And then Adriana jumps in and 
says, until we were out to 

1088
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,000
lunch. 
And then you saw her. 

1089
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:44,560
And she's like, yes, but I 
didn't meet her. 

1090
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:47,240
So they were at a restaurant and
she saw Masood's ex-wife. 

1091
00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:49,240
And she's like, I don't want her
to see me. 

1092
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,160
And even when she said that, I, 
I read online that people were 

1093
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,080
still criticizing her saying, 
well, she should have. 

1094
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,840
How do how would she know if she
saw? 

1095
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,840
Of course she's going to know 
what she looks like. 

1096
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:00,240
I mean, are you? 
Guys, what she looks like. 

1097
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,480
Right. 
And why would she go up to her? 

1098
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,520
She's never met her before. 
Why would she? 

1099
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,880
Like they thought she should 
have went up. 

1100
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,400
I'm like, no, why would you do 
that? 

1101
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:11,560
I I don't think anything that 
she did about that whole 

1102
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,840
situation was wrong. 
And I believe her. 

1103
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:16,840
I believe that she's never. 
As well I hadn't heard that 

1104
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,680
rumor that she worked for the 
ex-wife so that was all new to 

1105
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,480
me. 
But if she said she didn't, then

1106
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:22,320
she didn't. 
And I'm a. 

1107
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,920
Standard how how many times 
there's just some little story 

1108
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:30,600
some fan concoct somewhere out 
of circumstantial at best 

1109
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,920
information that like turned it 
takes on a life of its own and 

1110
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,760
it just like how is this taking 
on so much? 

1111
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,760
It's so weird. 
But yeah, no, I totally believe 

1112
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:41,720
her. 
I she has no no reason to lie. 

1113
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,720
She doesn't have any reason to 
lie and his children I'm sure 

1114
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:50,200
are grown and maybe he had a 
very contentious divorce like I 

1115
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,000
mentioned before, my girlfriend 
who went through a three-year 

1116
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,920
divorce, like she can't wait 
until her youngest is 18. 

1117
00:52:56,920 --> 00:53:00,760
So it's like like. 
Yeah, dumb stop, man. 

1118
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:03,280
Yeah. 
Good luck in the future. 

1119
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:07,040
Maybe that's the kind of divorce
he had where it was like our 

1120
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,800
kids are grown. 
Like I'll see you at their 

1121
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,480
weddings, when their kids are 
born, when they have birthday 

1122
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,360
parties. 
But we don't need to speak 

1123
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,880
anymore. 
So why would she have to have a 

1124
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,400
relationship with his ex-wife? 
And then on top of that, does 

1125
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,520
his ex-wife really want to see 
his new wife? 

1126
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,560
Like, oh, thanks for coming up 
to me at a restaurant. 

1127
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,160
The highlight of my day, you 
know. 

1128
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:29,040
Exactly right, yeah. 
Highlights. 

1129
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,880
No, I know. 
So then Stephanie says the 

1130
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:34,320
biggest surprise she took away 
from the season is how much I 

1131
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:36,920
love every single girl here. 
I didn't really think I was 

1132
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,000
going to love them and I I 
thought that was sincere. 

1133
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,440
Also I think because she was 
open that she didn't have 

1134
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,600
friends before. 
That's true. 

1135
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:46,680
It felt a little ass kissy to 
me, though, to the to the other 

1136
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:48,480
couch. 
It felt a little too much like, 

1137
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:52,480
Oh, Alexi and Marisol and I are 
besties now, and as much as they

1138
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,120
went back and forth with her and
I like that she still calls them

1139
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,680
out, you know, it seems, but I 
just felt it was a little too 

1140
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,520
kiss assy on on that side of the
couch. 

1141
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,760
But you're right. 
I, I forgot that she was very 

1142
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,240
open about like, I don't really 
have friends, so it's nice to, 

1143
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:08,800
you know, be part of a group and
not necessarily be talking about

1144
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:10,960
my, my career all the time, you 
know, that sort of thing, which 

1145
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,240
seemed to be the primary focus 
of hers. 

1146
00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:18,240
Yeah, I think we're getting to a
point with Miami where the 

1147
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:21,960
newcomers think they have to 
kiss the ring of Alexia, like on

1148
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:25,440
Jersey, where people for a long 
time there thought they had to 

1149
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,160
kiss Teresa's ring. 
I think that's where we're 

1150
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,600
headed with Miami and it's not 
good. 

1151
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:33,680
No, I agree. 
And and what's weird is that I 

1152
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:36,800
don't think Alexia has the same.
I mean, while she's they call 

1153
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:39,400
her the Teresa clone, I don't 
think she has even half the 

1154
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:42,240
personality Teresa had and 
that's saying a lot like. 

1155
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:47,040
Nor the nor the fan support. 
I mean, you've never seen fan 

1156
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,160
support like Teresa has had, 
right? 

1157
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:52,120
So there's no, you know, she 
does not have that. 

1158
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,800
Yeah, so I'm just always 
confounded as to why everyone 

1159
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,600
think Alexia walks on water like
that. 

1160
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,720
I'm just like, I don't, I don't 
understand it so. 

1161
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,560
Yeah, how about when Lisa 
excused herself from the table 

1162
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:03,720
with Larsa when they were at 
lunch and goes in the bathroom 

1163
00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:06,440
and calls Alexia and says she 
said that you guys don't like 

1164
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,080
me. 
It's like, why are you calling 

1165
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,280
Alexia? 
Not valid to the conversation 

1166
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:17,160
you're having with Larsa. 
So next, Andy moves on to Lisa. 

1167
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,440
Everyone knows Lisa lives in 
Lisa Land. 

1168
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,160
Have you listened to what Jody 
said about controlling the chaos

1169
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:23,920
in your life? 
And she's like, yeah, I have a 

1170
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:26,200
therapist now. 
And that's been very helpful. 

1171
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,560
Like, I didn't realize that. 
Like, I don't want everyone 

1172
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:31,600
waiting on me. 
I didn't realize that I had such

1173
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,280
a problem with, like, 
calculating my time properly. 

1174
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,040
And I had mentioned to Kelly a 
couple episodes ago, she had 

1175
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,200
said on a podcast that she's 
actually, she hired like a coach

1176
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:45,200
to help her be on time more 
because she, you know, it was a 

1177
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:47,080
problem and she wants to address
it. 

1178
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,920
And I think, listen, I think 
that's growth. 

1179
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,560
You know, I think she is trying.
I think she is trying. 

1180
00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:57,600
And she also said, you know, 
compared to three years ago, you

1181
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:00,960
know, when she was first 
separated, like she's a totally 

1182
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,800
different person. 
And IA 100% agree with that. 

1183
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,360
When that whole thing went down 
with Lenny, she was a mess 

1184
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,520
because she wasn't used to being
on her own. 

1185
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:14,840
She she, she just was a mess. 
And now she reminds me of a 

1186
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:17,080
little girl, Lisa. 
She just. 

1187
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,200
Reminds me of a little girl. 
Right. 

1188
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,360
Yeah, I think that she has no 
bad intentions, right? 

1189
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,600
Because she's late. 
She's late because she's late. 

1190
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,960
Like she's not late. 
She's not calculating, you know,

1191
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,520
It just seems like this is too. 
I am and better for worse. 

1192
00:56:34,360 --> 00:56:36,160
That's it. 
That's that's a very good way to

1193
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,360
put it. 
She's not calculating and she 

1194
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:42,040
does not have bad intentions. 
There's not malice in her like 

1195
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,000
some of these housewives, right?
And the fact that it's been 

1196
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:49,440
brought to her attention and 
she's working on it and she's 

1197
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,960
trying to do better, I think, 
you know, that speaks a lot for 

1198
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,120
who she is, Andy. 
I'm wondering how we get a job 

1199
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:57,880
as a time management coach. 
I know, right? 

1200
00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:01,160
Crazy. 
It seems this is oddly specific,

1201
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,360
Like I'm sure just a life coach,
but you know. 

1202
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,320
Well, if you can have an 
accountability coach, yeah. 

1203
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:08,080
Very true. 
It's probably the same. 

1204
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,240
Are you on time for things? 
Is this something you want to 

1205
00:57:10,240 --> 00:57:13,120
look into? 
I'm actually on time. 

1206
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:14,440
I'm pretty good. 
On We're good On Time. 

1207
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:18,040
I hate being late. 
I don't like being late either. 

1208
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,480
I get like I feel bad. 
I get like anxiety. 

1209
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:24,280
Yeah, no, I'm a nail biter. 
When you can tell when I've been

1210
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,320
late, it's by the lack of 
fingernails that I have. 

1211
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:28,200
The lower they are, the more 
late I've been lately. 

1212
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,640
I can't physically. 
Now I got to make sure I'm on 

1213
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,160
time. 
All right, so Jody said Lisa 

1214
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,360
says Co parenting is not going 
well with Lenny and we kind of 

1215
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,920
move on from that. 
The next thing Andy brings up is

1216
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,280
Martina recently posted on 
Twitter surrogacy is just wrong.

1217
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,920
Sometimes you can't have it all.
And he asks Lisa what her 

1218
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,840
thoughts are on that because 
both of her children were born 

1219
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,400
via surrogate. 
And I think it's interesting 

1220
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:56,760
that he did that because 
obviously his children were born

1221
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,600
via surrogate as well and he 
couldn't put it coming from him.

1222
00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,720
So he had Lisa there to ask that
question. 

1223
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,400
I'm sorry, this was the second 
time I got annoyed by Andy 

1224
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,040
because he should have made it. 
He should have. 

1225
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:10,640
Yeah. 
I agree. 

1226
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,640
It was really quick, just like, 
you know, I don't agree with, 

1227
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,120
you know, Yeah, yeah. 
OK, moving on. 

1228
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,960
And then and also like he's, 
he's gotten, I think because of 

1229
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:24,360
whatever it was the whole, you 
know, lawsuit or whatever the, 

1230
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,560
the Leah, what's her face from 
New York? 

1231
00:58:26,560 --> 00:58:27,840
McSweeney. 
Thank you. 

1232
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:30,440
Yeah, he's gotten so like, oh, 
that's an HR problem. 

1233
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,520
So he's gets really, really 
diplomatic in the largest air 

1234
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,960
quotes you can imagine about 
like not wanting to be 

1235
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,400
confrontational because he's, 
you know, I, you know, I'm, I'm 

1236
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,320
in a position of power. 
So I can't really have an 

1237
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,360
opinion about this. 
And it's like, no, I mean, I 

1238
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,240
think where it's important have 
the opinion about it. 

1239
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,520
I mean, this is very, very 
important to him and his, you 

1240
00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:53,840
know, his life and you know. 
And many other housewives have 

1241
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:57,400
used have had the surrogate. 
So, you know, it's just very 

1242
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,640
offensive. 
And for just Julie to say like, 

1243
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,920
I disagree and oh, OK, Well, 
thank you for saying that, 

1244
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:03,800
Julia. 
I mean it's. 

1245
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,560
Yeah, totally brushed over it. 
Totally brushed it all. 

1246
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,880
And to put it all on Lisa, to 
have either to make it an issue 

1247
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,840
or not was kind of not right of 
him either. 

1248
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,280
I mean, I think he could have 
whatever she said, at least 

1249
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,240
chimed in and said, you know, 
hey, I think it's screwed up 

1250
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:20,680
too. 
But maybe it's already obvious. 

1251
00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:22,960
I mean, maybe there's hours of 
Radio Andy where he's talked 

1252
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,120
about it and he doesn't feel 
like he needs to go on the 

1253
00:59:25,120 --> 00:59:26,160
record anymore. 
But. 

1254
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,600
I do think he brought it up at 
Watch What Happens Live with 

1255
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:31,360
Julia. 
I do think that they discussed 

1256
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,760
it on What Happens Live, but I 
don't know if he made it 

1257
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,000
personal about himself. 
Like I just felt like he should 

1258
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,480
have had a personal opinion on. 
Agreed. 

1259
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:42,880
Yeah, I totally agree. 
And then he moves on to Julia. 

1260
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:45,760
We saw that you asked Derek to 
be the boy's godfather. 

1261
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,440
Did you and Martina ask anyone 
to be the godmother? 

1262
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:51,400
And she's like, well, not yet. 
And then he said, well, did you 

1263
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,560
guys consider Adriana? 
And she's like, no, she was not 

1264
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,920
considered. 
But I'm sorry, Adriana, you'd be

1265
00:59:56,920 --> 01:00:00,880
the godmother of Basquiato. 
Please do not that. 

1266
01:00:00,880 --> 01:00:03,280
Was hysterical. 
That was so funny. 

1267
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,160
We, we have two cats and we're 
always like, oh, you're a good 

1268
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:10,320
little cat. 
Dad's like, no, we are cat 

1269
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,240
owners. 
We, we have two pets. 

1270
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,960
They're not our children. 
They're not this. 

1271
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,040
We get the people of their 
animals and we love ours, but we

1272
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,320
don't need a godparent. 
For our animals, we do. 

1273
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,800
Not Oh my gosh, I am so glad to 
hear you say that because some 

1274
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,400
of these cat owners are crazy 
and Kelly and I are not. 

1275
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,840
We are not pet owners. 
We say we have children and 

1276
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,560
that's enough. 
We have children. 

1277
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,320
Like I'm sorry, that's enough. 
We're not pet owners. 

1278
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,160
We don't get it. 
We do not get. 

1279
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,760
It like we love our cats, but 
like there's a limit. 

1280
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,720
Right. 
And I'll tell you what, I would 

1281
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,480
love a pet. 
I hear people talk about their 

1282
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:48,880
vet bills. 
I'm like $3000 because your kid 

1283
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:51,560
needs insulin. 
Like, Oh my God. 

1284
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,800
Yeah, I could never. 
Yeah, we just came off the tail 

1285
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:59,360
end of one of those bills. 
So our cat passed recently, but 

1286
01:00:59,360 --> 01:00:59,960
yeah. 
I'm. 

1287
01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:01,960
Sorry. 
Yeah, it's sad, but but we're 

1288
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,040
good. 
We're in a good place now. 

1289
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:08,400
Yeah, but yeah. 
And also, what show was it where

1290
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,320
she's dying? 
Her damn dog was at Atlanta 

1291
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,720
where she was like. 
Kelly dying, Yeah. 

1292
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:15,480
Kelly, Yeah. 
Everyone get kidnapped. 

1293
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:21,400
So he's easily identifiable. 
Yes, yes, that that's what 

1294
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,480
that's. 
Craziness. 

1295
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,200
So. 
But hey, not only is he pink, he

1296
01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:27,720
has fake lashes. 
That dog is miserable. 

1297
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,840
He's not going to get kidnapped.
He's going to, God forbid, walk 

1298
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,720
the wrong way because he can't 
see through the lashes and get. 

1299
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,600
God, but yeah, know Adriana as 
godmother of those children. 

1300
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:42,120
It was like a dagger to the 
heart. 

1301
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,800
So Andy brings up the first time
we met Julia and Adriana were in

1302
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,480
2021 when they got friend 
engaged, which also happens in 

1303
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,920
the Hamptons by the way, in 
season 4. 

1304
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,040
Because I saw that I was like, 
wait, what? 

1305
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,520
Who? 
When they showed the clip, I had

1306
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,280
to shield my face. 
I was, I was just. 

1307
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:05,000
That was the most cringe worthy 
moment and I can't, I cannot 

1308
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,200
imagine watching it when it 
happened the first time. 

1309
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:09,560
Oh my God. 
It's like worse than me you. 

1310
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,440
Should watch that episode 
because Julia gets very, very 

1311
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,440
ill. 
She's hungover. 

1312
01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:18,120
She's hungover but she will not 
admit it. 

1313
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,160
She won't admit it. 
And the night before is 

1314
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:25,760
supposedly when the first 
intimate encounter happened. 

1315
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:32,120
Yes yes. 
So Adriana brings up that she 

1316
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,320
was upset that Alexia saw the 
boys before she did. 

1317
01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:39,960
Andy seems that Julia's close 
friendship with Marisol and 

1318
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:44,560
Alexia is what catapulted the 
demise of her friendship with 

1319
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:48,920
Adriana. 
I mean, I don't really think 

1320
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,040
that that's the case. 
I know that that's what Adriana 

1321
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:53,760
is saying is because she got 
close to them. 

1322
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,760
I think it's just Julia's 
behavior in general, like the 

1323
01:02:56,760 --> 01:03:00,640
fact that she wasn't there for 
her and that, you know, she 

1324
01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:05,200
didn't get to see the boys 1st. 
And but don't you think that's a

1325
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,000
result of her getting closer 
with Alexia Marisol? 

1326
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:12,640
Don't you think that off camera 
in between seasons, Alexia 

1327
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,560
Marisol probably reached out to 
Julia and we're like, listen, 

1328
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,320
we'd love to get together. 
I mean, it could be just started

1329
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,720
kind of pulling her in and. 
Pulling her in. 

1330
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:25,640
And she's like, oh, the popular 
girls like me now. 

1331
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,400
Exactly. 
She's got the pick me energy. 

1332
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,920
Yeah, it definitely could be 
Heather of Salt Lake City. 

1333
01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,280
With Lisa Barlow. 
God, yes. 

1334
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:36,520
I know we're. 
Going to need a whole another 

1335
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,080
hour if we're going to start 
talking about that. 

1336
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,320
Lisa was popular in high school 
and she's actually talking to me

1337
01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,240
right now. 
Do you not understand all of 

1338
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,080
Salt Lake's obsession with 
being, like, besties with Lisa 

1339
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,600
or Jen Shaw or whatever the 
case? 

1340
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,080
I don't get it. 
Yeah. 

1341
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:52,880
Yeah. 
OK. 

1342
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:56,720
Crazy. 
So what do you think about the 

1343
01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,360
bombshell shell? 
So then Julia drops the 

1344
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:04,320
bombshell that you know that her
and Adriana slept together in 

1345
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:06,520
the Hamptons. 
And do you think it's true? 

1346
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,200
So I had it ruined for me 
because I was an idiot who was 

1347
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:12,440
scrolling on his phone a moment 
before in a commercial break and

1348
01:04:12,440 --> 01:04:15,080
I was like, damn it. 
So I did not have it. 

1349
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,360
But he he. 
Clutched his purse. 

1350
01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:19,240
Yeah. 
Big gay gasp. 

1351
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,640
Yeah, yeah. 
You were like whoa, my God. 

1352
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:27,880
I didn't see that coming at all,
so kudos to her for that was a 

1353
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:31,560
good bomb drop. 
I don't know if I believe it 

1354
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,560
because I don't believe much 
that comes out of Julia's mouth.

1355
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:38,640
I couldn't tell by Adriana's 
reaction if I should believe it.

1356
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:40,320
If she was, I don't know. 
I don't know. 

1357
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,880
The only reason I believe it is 
from scenes from next week or 

1358
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,760
clips that I've seen since 
Adriana's speaking very 

1359
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:47,120
candidly. 
And I think she says something 

1360
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:48,760
like that's not what started 
this. 

1361
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,560
And then it could be magical 
editing where we're led to 

1362
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,400
believe she's talking about some
sort of intimate encounter. 

1363
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:58,160
But I I tend to believe that it 
happened, but I don't know that 

1364
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:01,040
it maybe happened to the degree 
that Julie is making it out to 

1365
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:03,000
be. 
Like maybe they made out a 

1366
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,400
little bit, maybe a little bit 
of this or that, but like Julia 

1367
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,600
really is over hyping it. 
I think that's my gut instinct 

1368
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:12,400
on that. 
Yeah, Do you believe it? 

1369
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:17,280
Thought my thought is if it 
happened in 2021, why is it all 

1370
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,840
of a sudden a problem now in 
well when they were filming this

1371
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:25,600
in 2024 and now 2025? 
Like what's changed? 

1372
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,080
Like what's changed? 
Well, that's a good point. 

1373
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:30,440
Yeah. 
Why? 

1374
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,160
Yeah. 
Why all of a sudden like no if? 

1375
01:05:32,280 --> 01:05:35,160
That did happen, right? 
If that did happen, what what 

1376
01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:36,320
does that, what does that 
change? 

1377
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,200
Because she's saying, like, what
you don't know is that we slept 

1378
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:42,080
together. 
OK, so you slept together. 

1379
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,120
What does that have to do with 
what is going on right now 

1380
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:48,080
between you 2? 
Right, because it seems like it 

1381
01:05:48,080 --> 01:05:50,000
seems like we slept together one
time. 

1382
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:54,360
Not that we've been having an 
ongoing affair, but she does. 

1383
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,720
Say in the relevant, right, 
right. 

1384
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,080
How is it relevant? 
Like what does it have to do 

1385
01:05:59,080 --> 01:06:02,040
with what's going on right now? 
I just think it's deflection. 

1386
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,600
Whether she slept with her or 
she didn't sleep with her, who 

1387
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,200
cares? 
What does it have to do with 

1388
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,800
what's going on right now? 
I mean, unless she's gonna spin 

1389
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,400
some sort of jealousy narrative 
in the next episode that, you 

1390
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:12,880
know, oh, you know, I didn't 
give any. 

1391
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,720
I didn't spend more attention on
you. 

1392
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,160
And I started giving it to other
people. 

1393
01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,640
And you liked it when I, you 
know, flirted with you and gave 

1394
01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:20,160
you attention. 
And, you know, that's the only 

1395
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:22,040
thing I could think that might 
make it relevant. 

1396
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:23,800
But you're right. 
You're absolutely right, it 

1397
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,480
isn't relevant. 
I hadn't thought about that 

1398
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,120
until just now. 
That's a really good point. 

1399
01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:29,160
That just means. 
I told Wendy. 

1400
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,960
I told Wendy last week. 
My third eye was open. 

1401
01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,720
I thought that that was what 
Julia was going to say. 

1402
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:39,840
I really thought that that's 
what she was going to say. 

1403
01:06:40,200 --> 01:06:41,720
I don't know if I believe it, 
though. 

1404
01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,680
I thought it. 
Was going to be something to do 

1405
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:47,960
with like the boys or something.
I didn't yeah, I did not see 

1406
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,640
this coming. 
I think it she definitely got a 

1407
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:55,080
moment from it, you know, so 
maybe this is yeah at they want 

1408
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:56,680
a moment for themselves at the 
reunions. 

1409
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,400
They're like ass back. 
So maybe that was her like, 

1410
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:05,320
boom, look, that's what I'm. 
Thinking, yeah, so, so now 

1411
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:08,360
production will be like, well, 
you know, now we know this about

1412
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,280
them, so we have to see how they
interact next season. 

1413
01:07:11,960 --> 01:07:15,240
Oh, see it play out. 
Yeah, with especially with 

1414
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:19,000
Martina because and Wendy and I 
have said this before, like we 

1415
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,320
really think Martina likes being
on this show. 

1416
01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:26,880
We think Martinez really 
enjoying her spousal role in in 

1417
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,520
Miami. 
Yeah, I agree with that. 

1418
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:32,880
She never seems to be like other
like other other spouses seem to

1419
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:36,240
be like either begrudging 100% 
or they love the spotlight. 

1420
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:39,960
She seems to just like be very 
casually there and just really 

1421
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:43,080
at ease with being on camera, 
whereas if she didn't like it, 

1422
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:44,440
it. 
Would show for sure. 

1423
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,200
Yeah. 
And she would go along with 

1424
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:53,720
whatever tale Julia's spinning. 
So then would they go to we see 

1425
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,400
them in couples therapy next 
season? 

1426
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,640
Oh, I hope not. 
That would be interesting. 

1427
01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:03,280
Part of me does believe it 
though, because I think Julia is

1428
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,200
a very flirty person. 
I have no idea what goes on in 

1429
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:09,880
their marriage, but I do believe
the Captain Sandy story from 

1430
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:12,440
that cruise. 
I do believe that she was trying

1431
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:15,280
to get Gertie not to come to 
wherever she was coming because 

1432
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:18,479
she was going to. 
It was the Captain Sandy dinner.

1433
01:08:19,319 --> 01:08:20,840
So she don't want a witness 
there. 

1434
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:24,800
Yeah, so part of me does kind of
believe that maybe she did have 

1435
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,200
something with Adriana. 
I mean Adriana is very flirty 

1436
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:29,399
person too. 
Not that that means you would 

1437
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:31,640
sleep with a married woman, but 
I'm just saying. 

1438
01:08:32,040 --> 01:08:34,120
Right. 
Maybe that's what Gertie, Gertie

1439
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,479
and Adriana were talking about. 
The details don't matter 

1440
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:37,479
anymore. 
Maybe they were. 

1441
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,120
All three of them know something
about the Captain Sandy table. 

1442
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,840
Right, right. 
Because yeah, like Adriana was 

1443
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,840
like, you got to talk about the 
cruise and Courtney was like, 

1444
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:50,200
no, it doesn't matter. 
And but Adriana was very adamant

1445
01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:51,960
and like, come on, talk about 
the cruise. 

1446
01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,120
I'll back you up. 
Don't you think that that 

1447
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,319
because at some point Adriana 
hands Julia box, something in 

1448
01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:02,439
that box could have something to
do with Captain Sandy Could? 

1449
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:05,160
I don't know why, it's just so 
dumb in my head. 

1450
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:06,720
I always just think there's a 
dead animal in it. 

1451
01:09:06,720 --> 01:09:09,200
The way the way the reaction is,
when she looks at it, she's 

1452
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,279
like. 
And it's a very ornate box. 

1453
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:14,960
Yeah. 
It was a very pretty box. 

1454
01:09:15,359 --> 01:09:18,319
A dried squirrel or something 
that's I don't know why I'm so 

1455
01:09:18,319 --> 01:09:21,640
dumb. 
It seems like something bad, 

1456
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,160
like something bad in the box. 
Yeah. 

1457
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:27,359
Yeah, I guess. 
Well, I mean, I guess they did 

1458
01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:28,840
their job. 
We want to know what happens in 

1459
01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:31,080
the next episode. 
And now they have a reason to 

1460
01:09:31,080 --> 01:09:34,279
have three reunion episodes out 
of a season that probably didn't

1461
01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:36,000
need them. 
Yeah, that's gonna be a, that's 

1462
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,359
gonna be a 2 Fer. 
Yeah. 

1463
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,200
Aren't you surprised they 
dropped this in the first 

1464
01:09:41,200 --> 01:09:43,880
episode and did it? 
Not if there's not, if there's 

1465
01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,160
bigger stuff coming. 
That's true. 

1466
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,600
That's true. 
I think that there's bigger 

1467
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,160
stuff coming. 
Yeah, the next episode could 

1468
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,399
very well be like, did that 
really happen? 

1469
01:09:53,399 --> 01:09:56,040
And she's like, well, no. 
And then they just quickly move 

1470
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,440
on from this and make a nothing 
burger out of it. 

1471
01:09:58,440 --> 01:10:00,280
And so it's like, I hope that's 
not the case. 

1472
01:10:00,280 --> 01:10:03,920
I hope there's some meat to this
and there's some more discussion

1473
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,840
and it's not just some throwaway
accusation or. 

1474
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:11,000
Yeah, like Adriana's denying it 
and Julia saying it's true. 

1475
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,320
Like, yeah, we need more than 
that. 

1476
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:16,200
Like, And then why, if she was 
gonna do this, why didn't she 

1477
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:18,760
bring Martina on? 
Like, let's get Martina involved

1478
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,720
in this. 
Yeah, someone had to stay home 

1479
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:24,800
with the boys. 
She's home with the boys by the 

1480
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,520
way. 
What are your thoughts on this? 

1481
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,840
People are like up in arms about
the fact that they changed the 

1482
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:33,080
boys names. 
Which is the guy also hadn't 

1483
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,160
heard about until it got 
mentioned in relation. 

1484
01:10:36,160 --> 01:10:40,200
The reunion. 
The reunion, it's a little Yeah,

1485
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:41,840
I. 
White savory, is that what 

1486
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:44,240
you're trying to say? 
It does seem a little like we're

1487
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,440
to the rescue and we're going 
to, you know, erase your 

1488
01:10:46,440 --> 01:10:48,360
previous life. 
Right, right, right. 

1489
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,560
Right, kind of, you know, and. 
This is who you're going to be 

1490
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:52,360
going forward now. 
Right. 

1491
01:10:52,440 --> 01:10:55,600
And we're going to tell that to 
you and not let you be who 

1492
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:58,400
you've been, you know, so. 
Well, I kind of want to know 

1493
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:00,000
what their names were before 
this then. 

1494
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,120
For sure, I know, but I don't 
think she said it was for 

1495
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,040
security reasons. 
She said it was for security. 

1496
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,680
Reasons. 
But OK, that's bullshit. 

1497
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:11,360
I think that's bullshit. 
I mean well if it's a closed 

1498
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,000
adoption though. 
Right. 

1499
01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,760
If it's a closed adoption and 
you don't want anybody ever 

1500
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:19,800
coming to find them. 
I mean, Martinez got a pretty 

1501
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,600
famous last name. 
So if you know the boy's first 

1502
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:24,040
name. 
Yeah, figure it out. 

1503
01:11:24,040 --> 01:11:27,080
I mean, if it is truly just 
quote UN quote a stage name, you

1504
01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:28,760
know for the sake of the show, 
fine. 

1505
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,600
But if they're but you're. 
Legally. 

1506
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:32,440
They legally. 
Change them and that seems 

1507
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:34,560
really really. 
Because they're, they're like, 

1508
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,680
not little babies. 
They've been known exactly. 

1509
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:39,120
Names. 
I mean. 

1510
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:40,520
For quite. 
Some time 3. 

1511
01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,640
Yeah, right. 
Little it's it's little sauce. 

1512
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,640
It's sauce. 
Yeah, so. 

1513
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:49,640
That's the one thing I want to 
know more because I don't like 

1514
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,920
Julia, but I do want to know 
about the whole thing with her 

1515
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:56,280
daughters and, you know, the 
fallout and like, why they're so

1516
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,920
upset and because she really 
kind of just danced around and 

1517
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,080
like, oh, these, you know, we 
have a falling out. 

1518
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,920
I'm like, let's get more into 
that. 

1519
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:04,960
Why were they so upset about 
this adoption? 

1520
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:08,240
And totally agree. 
We need more on that. 

1521
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:11,080
Yeah, that's the other thing 
that that comes out in Season 4 

1522
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:14,240
that I totally forgot about. 
So Julia mentions that, you 

1523
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,840
know, she had lost a baby. 
So she has three children with 

1524
01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:19,880
three different fathers that she
never married. 

1525
01:12:20,440 --> 01:12:22,600
So her two daughters. 
Oh, I didn't realize. 

1526
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:24,520
That there's a third. 
That she lost. 

1527
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,800
She lost. 
She lost. 

1528
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,520
She had a baby that she lost 
because of the nanny. 

1529
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,680
But all three of her children 
had different fathers, none of 

1530
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,280
which she married. 
I didn't realize. 

1531
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,160
I mean, I thought the 2 girls, 
the two. 

1532
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:41,680
She mentioned it on season. 
Yeah, she mentioned it on season

1533
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,520
4. 
I was like, oh, I forgot that. 

1534
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:47,200
Yeah. 
There's so much about Julia like

1535
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:50,160
below the surface. 
Yes, well, that's. 

1536
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,320
What I'm saying? 
That's what I'm saying. 

1537
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,000
I think that there's more. 
I mean, listen, she's a 

1538
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,360
beautiful woman. 
She obviously was a model. 

1539
01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:59,760
And yeah, you know, I think 
that, you know, maybe there's 

1540
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,440
some sort of trauma that came 
from her childhood over in 

1541
01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:05,520
Russia with, I don't know, You 
know, I think that you're right.

1542
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:08,040
I think there's a lot about 
Julia what we don't know. 

1543
01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,440
Anger issues, Trauma makes sense
too. 

1544
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,200
Yeah, for sure. 
Not that I'm saying it'd be nice

1545
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:16,440
to for her to share some of 
that, but you know, again, 

1546
01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:20,600
getting to know her more, right,
you know, at some level or 

1547
01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:22,960
another would be very 
interesting as opposed to, you 

1548
01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:25,240
know, mudslinging. 
It'd be real. 

1549
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:27,360
Yes. 
Yes, yes, yes. 

1550
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,920
Yeah, your real reality. 
Because we say this all the 

1551
01:13:30,920 --> 01:13:32,680
time. 
Like, we don't treat our friends

1552
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,720
like this. 
Yeah. 

1553
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:38,200
Like, this is we had to take a 
dirt up on Wendy from when she 

1554
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,480
was 19 years old. 
And you know this is not how 

1555
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,200
women behave in friend groups. 
Yeah, I know. 

1556
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:45,720
We ask ourselves that all the 
time. 

1557
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:49,200
Like, do you have any friend in 
the world who would react like 

1558
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,760
that or do this or do that? 
Hire API, yeah. 

1559
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,560
Yes, exactly. 
You have the time. 

1560
01:13:55,200 --> 01:13:59,800
Or the money, if you're from New
Jersey, you do not hire private 

1561
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,840
investigators to look into 
anybody. 

1562
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:07,920
You just smile and wave and let 
them go on their business, go 

1563
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:10,440
about their business. 
Well, that's our other thing is 

1564
01:14:10,440 --> 01:14:13,000
like there's so many Pete times 
on these shows where people it's

1565
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like, what's it matter to you 
what this person did or did not 

1566
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do? 
And it's like, OK, so she that 

1567
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,240
Adriana and Julianus Julia slept
together. 

1568
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:24,360
Who cares? 
Fine. 

1569
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,720
Like what's it matter that that 
happened? 

1570
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:29,280
And so like, until you can bring
it back around and give us a 

1571
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,080
reason why we should really care
other than like, OK, hot gossip,

1572
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,680
you know, then don't. 
So. 

1573
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,360
The only thing is, is if unless 
Adriana was like, listen, Julia,

1574
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,680
if you're really, you're really 
going to be friends with Alexia 

1575
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,240
and Marisol, now you're really 
going to do this and go down 

1576
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:46,800
that road. 
I'll, I'll let it out that you 

1577
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,040
and I had an affair while you 
were married to Martina. 

1578
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,040
Unless that's what happened. 
But it doesn't seem like that's 

1579
01:14:52,040 --> 01:14:54,240
what happened. 
No, it seems like there's 

1580
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:57,960
something else that at the 
finale party that Adriana like 

1581
01:14:57,960 --> 01:15:00,600
kind of threatened. 
Like I could, I will take this 

1582
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:02,440
to the grave, but I could say 
it. 

1583
01:15:02,440 --> 01:15:05,560
And so there's something beyond 
this sleeping together thing 

1584
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:11,120
that she has on on Julia, which 
I hope she drops it. 

1585
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:12,760
Yeah, we'll have to wait and 
see. 

1586
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,120
Episode. 
So. 

1587
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:16,280
We're going to have to wrap 
this. 

1588
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,000
Up. 
Yes, yes, we did. 

1589
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,680
I know. 
Supposed to be 45 minutes. 

1590
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:23,480
I know I've been, I've been 
watching Kelly the whole time, 

1591
01:15:23,480 --> 01:15:26,240
wondering does she get Nancy 
over there like it's well over 

1592
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:30,440
45 minutes. 
I knew it was going to go longer

1593
01:15:30,440 --> 01:15:32,200
with four of us. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1594
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:34,680
No, this has been wonderful. 
This is great. 

1595
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,000
Yeah, this was a lot of fun. 
We'll definitely do this again. 

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01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,600
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