1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,440 You know, I could do it. Like I just have the opening 2 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:06,120 play over us talking about random stuff and then it'll just 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:08,400 slowly fade. But then people who are 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:10,120 listening will wonder, why aren't they starting yet? 5 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Yeah, let's just do it a normal, yeah. 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,920 And then we can explain to them that we're having copyright 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,880 issues with their music, and that's why they're hearing this 8 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,520 conversation right now. Welcome to another episode of 9 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,240 Husbands Watching Housewives. I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we 10 00:00:22,240 --> 00:00:24,560 just watched an episode of The Real Housewives of Salt Lake 11 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,240 City. Sure did. 12 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,840 Yes, and. Before the boat. 13 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:31,400 The pre boat episode Pre. Boat episode. 14 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,840 Yes, it was a good episode. Yes, a lot of surprises. 15 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,120 Definitely surprises. I'd never thought I'd hear Mary 16 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:43,200 talking about farts in my life. It was a a fart, a fart fest, a 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,960 fart fest before before. We go down that spiral. 18 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:49,960 For those of you who are joining us, thank you very much. 19 00:00:50,480 --> 00:00:53,080 Please like, follow, subscribe. It really does help. 20 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,640 But beyond all that, we are experiencing an issue with our 21 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,400 theme song right now. We got it off of our production 22 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,560 platform for free, but they're having some rights issues so our 23 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:06,920 song is missing. So if you're wondering, like, 24 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,120 where's the song I like that gets me in the mood for the 25 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,720 husbands watching housewives, well, it's not there. 26 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,360 Hopefully we can resolve this quickly and we can bring the 27 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,760 song back because you know when we chose this a year ago. 28 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:20,520 Two years ago, almost. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 29 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,920 January 20. 24 yeah, we're like, oh, that's just such like a fun 30 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,360 little song and you know, like go and it hasn't been an issue, 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,440 but now it's an issue and two episodes have been pulled from 32 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:32,200 Spotify, right. So if you're looking for the 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,240 Miami episode or the last OC episode. 34 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:38,960 Yeah, that's why you can't find it unless you're outside of any 35 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:41,960 major country in the world. If you're in Sweden, I think you 36 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:43,440 can see. It it's, well, it's like they 37 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,080 pulled it from California. Well, that's Canada, sweetheart. 38 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,800 CA is Canada. Oh so. 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:55,200 It's all the US is missing. Oh yeah, Japan, US, France, UK 40 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,080 and Canada. What about Australia? 41 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,840 And I think it's an Australia. Stuff OK, because we really got 42 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,400 to like buck up our numbers. I don't understand why we're 43 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,920 doing so poorly in Australia, but that's a good point. 44 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:08,960 Yeah, we just discovered also the podcast charts, which, you 45 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,240 know, of course they're a thing. They try to, you know, chart 46 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:12,640 everything and monetize everything. 47 00:02:12,640 --> 00:02:16,640 But we did not understand like we one of our first viewer 48 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:19,600 listeners was in Australia and we're going to can't believe we 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,560 have listeners in Australia. And so I think we've lost sight 50 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,760 of our Australian contingent. And this is not just to, you 51 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,800 know, Curry their favor. But yes, please listen, tell 52 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:31,280 your friends. But no, it's really exciting to 53 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:34,680 have, you know, people listening to us in different reaches of 54 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:36,480 the world. It's very interesting. 55 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,880 It's just like, oh, how did you find us? 56 00:02:38,920 --> 00:02:43,240 But every I mean, there's so much people can find out there, 57 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,440 You know, they're just like having to be searching and but 58 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:48,520 for to make. Yeah, to make us your preferred 59 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,160 choice. Like we're still confused in 60 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,000 general, but you know, it's awesome. 61 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:53,600 Thank you. Australia is great. 62 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:55,440 I've never been. Same. 63 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:56,520 Oh. I thought you had been. 64 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,680 No, I just knew I was on that cruise and there were like a ton 65 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,440 of like Aussies and Aussie, Aussie, Aussie. 66 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,560 Got it. So now you just lost to some 67 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,880 viewers by doing that thing. I could have done way more, you 68 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,720 know, more, but I just, I, you know, I don't want to like blast 69 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:17,320 people's eardrums so. Yeah, don't do that. 70 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,880 Yeah, so sure they would do. I feel bad calling them viewers 71 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:22,200 because really we're first and foremost a podcast. 72 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,440 They're. Listeners, listeners. 73 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,920 There was a podcast I used to love from probably the early 74 00:03:26,920 --> 00:03:29,240 days of podcast was Mike and Tom Eat snacks. 75 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,760 And they were purely a podcast. Yeah. 76 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,440 But they would always call their listeners viewers. 77 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:35,880 And they're like, I know they're not viewers. 78 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,360 They would just purposely do that. 79 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,480 And now whenever I do it by mistake, I'm like, oh, I'm not 80 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,480 trying to RIP off mates. But it was it was a good 81 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,200 podcast. I recommend. 82 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:47,800 Yeah. Anyway, Oh, this episode. 83 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,720 Where did it begin? They just picked up, right? 84 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:52,920 Well, suppose it was the next day. 85 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,840 And so Heather was eating her whipped cream. 86 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Oh, yeah, it was. Yeah, it was Angie. 87 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,000 And yeah, Angie and Heather are making coffee in the. 88 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:03,440 Morning. Yeah, some coffee talk. 89 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,120 Yeah, I that was cute. I thought it was very. 90 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Cute. It was cute. 91 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,640 It was cute. I was really like, I was like, 92 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:11,160 is that whipped cream? And it was. 93 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,320 I thought it was that like coffee whipped Creamer like that 94 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,240 they that. Was on 2TS. 95 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:17,640 That was on 2TS which we got which was delicious. 96 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,320 Do we still have that? No, I threw it away because it 97 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,600 doesn't hold very well. Like it's not like it goes bad, 98 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,800 but it doesn't come out as whippy and creamy. 99 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,840 Visited the first two times. So before you knew it, you're 100 00:04:27,840 --> 00:04:31,120 just putting like a lump of like sugar in your coffee. 101 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,280 I'm like, I don't really need that. 102 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,800 So and then on top of it, I love my coconut Creamer, right? 103 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:38,080 And I didn't need the Toll House cookie Creamer. 104 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,440 Toll House, Yes. Nestle Toll House, Yeah. 105 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:44,360 But it was delicious. I would recommend it and they 106 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,280 make generic versions of it so that's why I thought. 107 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,880 But also I don't know anyone who just puts straight up whipped 108 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,640 cream in their coffee so I'm hoping. 109 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,720 Well, you know, Mormons and sugar. 110 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,920 Well, that's well, she's a bad Mormon, so. 111 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,560 Well, but you still, you can't take the sugar out of the 112 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,320 Mormon. You can take the Mormon. 113 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,040 By the way, we didn't know right that Heather has a whole. 114 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,840 Three-part special. Coming out on Bravo about, you 115 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:13,720 know, surviving or like, is it? It's surviving Mormonism. 116 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,920 The title's like, yeah, like leaving Mormonism or. 117 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,520 It's not like being escaping, yeah. 118 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:19,400 Basically, it's like getting out of the Mormon church. 119 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,040 Like we have our own Leah Remini. 120 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:22,720 Exactly. Everyone was saying it was like 121 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:23,680 Leah. It was like let you Remini. 122 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:24,800 Yes. I didn't put that connection 123 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,480 together till right now. Yes, well, you weren't on Reddit 124 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:30,440 when they're all like this seems like Leah Remini and I was like 125 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:33,040 go watch go clear and I say yes, go watch, go. 126 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,200 It's a good going clear. That's a good one. 127 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:39,600 Yes, but I digress. So yes, they were like catching 128 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,720 up on the what happened? With a full beat. 129 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,720 With a full beats. Like woke up, decided let's do 130 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,680 blue coffee and I'm just so fresh. 131 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,920 Pajamas and a full beat. Yeah, yeah. 132 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,480 Let's talk about what happened last week. 133 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:56,640 I like that Heather was going between Angie and Lisa. 134 00:05:56,640 --> 00:06:03,560 And you know, I think I think there's room for Angie to get 135 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,040 past this because I think she doesn't really care about Lisa. 136 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,000 I don't think Lisa cares as much about Angie and his friendship. 137 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,720 I don't really understand like, what relationship Lisa cares 138 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,120 most about aside from her children. 139 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,840 Like, because I feel like John could be tossed aside too. 140 00:06:16,840 --> 00:06:20,680 I mean, seemed to be that way I. Mean Lisa is about her kids and 141 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,760 about Lisa, yeah. Yeah, yeah. 142 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,920 We should also preface this by the fact that Comcast was acting 143 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,080 up again. So we had a lot of skipping 144 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,040 going on. So we, I got the, I think we got 145 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:35,080 the majority of things, but it did make it awkward, especially 146 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,360 in the later scenes with Lisa and John where I was like, oh, 147 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,560 he's really digging into her. Yeah, when we get to that whole 148 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,800 thing and it's this, this I guess the typical we've grown 149 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,720 apart. You're not listening to me, 150 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,360 Lisa. Is some somehow in a cowboy 151 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,960 confessional? I want to know who advised that? 152 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,160 I mean, it was a look. I don't know if it's my favorite 153 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:57,440 look. I mean, did she just go to the 154 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,960 Cowboy Carter concert and was like, you know what? 155 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:01,840 I'm. Gonna wear this more than once. 156 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,120 I need to accept I got this belt buckle. 157 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:06,800 I'm wearing it. I love that. 158 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,880 I was a little confused. I kept and this is I shouldn't 159 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,280 notice these things, but I couldn't tell if like her 160 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,000 nipples were pointing through the leather or if the leather 161 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,480 was just pointed right there like in such a way because I was 162 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,440 thinking otherwise. How thin is that leather like 163 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:21,920 that's? I didn't notice her nipples. 164 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,560 I was just really focused on the hat and her her beat was great 165 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,800 and hair was great. I think maybe she's that too 166 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:31,200 because like she never does really very much with her hair. 167 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:34,680 When she does a little braid situation, it's not great. 168 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,400 So she else wear a hat. But it looked, I mean, it was 169 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:41,280 ridiculous as a confessional with the belt buckle and the and 170 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,920 the and the burlap dress. But from here up I enjoyed it. 171 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Yeah. Yes, I think it was a good look 172 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,880 overall. Before we get into her and John 173 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,560 though, do you, what do you feel like? 174 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,960 Do you think Angie was actually like regretful of her behaviour 175 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,600 the day before? I think so because she really 176 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:02,040 lost control and she wasn't, and I think it was a specifically 177 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,080 with Mary and how that affected her. 178 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,520 That's what she probably regrets most, right? 179 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Like that's a friendship that she really cares about. 180 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,720 So not necessarily that she went in love with Lisa because she 181 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,640 didn't like the whole like talking about her hot stupid 182 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,600 wolf brand bullshit. I'm sorry, talking about your 183 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,320 kids brand that you don't even give a crap about, right? 184 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,120 That was really nothing compared to what she said last year, as 185 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:29,760 we noted last episode. And so it wasn't as low as one 186 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:31,200 could go. And things that she was pointing 187 00:08:31,200 --> 00:08:33,760 out were things that are already out there about the allegations. 188 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,600 So she was inventing, inventing Superman or Superman. 189 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,880 She was just saying like, this is what I read. 190 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,400 I heard you stole this card. So. 191 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,640 Whatever interesting. I, I, it very much read to me 192 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,640 like some drunk regret. Like I don't think she was like 193 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,800 blacked out or anything, but I feel like she definitely was, 194 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,040 would have controlled herself or behave, you know, I think had a 195 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,200 better control over her emotions and everything. 196 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:03,720 She's not red. Yeah, exactly. 197 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,120 Never like saw anything else. Yeah, and I think she knew that. 198 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,480 And so I think she was genuinely like, beyond just Mary, I think 199 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:15,000 she was just like, I think both ashamed, not ashamed, but I 200 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,720 think she was just more like, I could have tactically handled 201 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:19,840 that better. Like, I wish that I would have 202 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,680 remained more composed so that I could have, you know, kept 203 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,000 things tighter. But also, the more composed you 204 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:29,600 are, you could have made Lisa look more unhinged, right? 205 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,520 So I think she regrets it for both reasons, for both tactical 206 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,760 and actual. Like it was, I was kind of 207 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,680 embarrassed at my own behavior. And so I think that was actually 208 00:09:38,680 --> 00:09:42,520 kind of nice to see again, another housewife kind of owning 209 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,560 their stuff. It's like Lisa Rinna was there. 210 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:47,560 Like there, there's their sorority mom or something for 211 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:50,320 this this. Mother, Yes, I want you to own 212 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:52,360 it, girls. She's off there, off camera. 213 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:53,840 Own it, Angie. Own it. 214 00:09:54,200 --> 00:10:00,040 Own it, baby. Did you see that name? 215 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,480 That tune clip with her talent? We should. 216 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:03,600 Why aren't we watching that show? 217 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,000 Sinclair was saying that like, well, no, he's not. 218 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:07,480 She's talking about how they're on the weakest link. 219 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:09,760 Like Joe, Gorga and Melissa are on Weakest Link and. 220 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,640 Weakest link is still a thing. It's celebrity weakest link. 221 00:10:12,680 --> 00:10:14,360 Oh, weird. And they say they have, like, 222 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,080 she had the Glee kids on there at one point. 223 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,240 So she had, like, reality stars. Yeah. 224 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:19,800 We should watch that. Is it still? 225 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,880 It's on Fox and it's Jane Lynch. Oh, that makes that's why she 226 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,120 had the Glee people. Yeah, I say, Is the old host 227 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,520 still alive? Oh, that's a good question. 228 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:28,800 That was what, like 20 years ago? 229 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,680 Something like that. Yeah, probably not. 230 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:34,240 She was probably old back then. She's like in her 60s. 231 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Brad probably seen old yeah, she'd be in her 80s and she's 232 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:38,760 probably like, actually in her 60s. 233 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,160 Yeah, she's like we. Were just we were just out of 234 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:42,160 it. She did. 235 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:45,400 So yeah, back. So was that the next thing that 236 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,400 happened was John and Lisa? Yes. 237 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:52,520 That was interesting. I mean, he like, I think he was 238 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:54,000 really nervous. That's why he was smiling so 239 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,640 much, because he like just didn't know what to say and. 240 00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:59,480 Or we didn't. Do we have that out of order? 241 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,200 Because it wasn't Mary and Angie next. 242 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,520 No, Mary and Angie are after OK. Yeah. 243 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:05,600 It was because it kept freezing up. 244 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:12,400 And then, yeah. So I think that he was speaking 245 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,880 the truth of whatever I say is wrong and what you say is right. 246 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:20,160 And that's the issue that we, that's our impasse. 247 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,480 And so, yeah. And I feel like he was actually 248 00:11:23,560 --> 00:11:26,600 kind of doing it as delicately as he could, you know, and 249 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,600 actually say, like, you know, there's one thing that she said 250 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:31,920 and I can't, I'm going to screw it up. 251 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,000 I'm going to butcher it all together. 252 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:38,040 But she was basically saying, he is saying something like, you 253 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,160 just criticized me. And he said something like, 254 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,040 well, right, I'm trying to tell you why I'm not getting along, 255 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,760 why we have problems. And then she was just 256 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,160 immediately dismissive of it. And he kind of rolled his eyes 257 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:50,680 of like, well, right, right there. 258 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:54,160 Like, that's the problem. Well, I can't even tell you how 259 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,720 I'm feeling. Well, as she said, I'm made of 260 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:57,960 glass. You have to shoot me like I'm 261 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,320 made of glass and my feelings get hurt very easily. 262 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,560 But then you can't really have a constructive conversation. 263 00:12:05,560 --> 00:12:07,720 So I, I, I enjoyed that about her. 264 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,320 Like I, I felt what she was saying in that, that moment of 265 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,680 like, she comes off as this badass and so she wants her 266 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:20,440 person to treat her delicately, but at the same time like she 267 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:24,040 doesn't act delicately or she doesn't allow him to, you know? 268 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,120 I wonder when cameras are down if like how they really are with 269 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,040 each other. Right. 270 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:33,720 I, I don't imagine it's terribly different than they are on 271 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,760 camera. I mean, for him to say some of 272 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:37,640 the things he said, like if we were to go back and really 273 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:40,440 rewatch that, that's some, you know, it's kind of some crappy 274 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,320 stuff to I would never want to hear you say. 275 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,040 That about he was like he was digging at her a bit and you 276 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:47,480 know. But I don't think it was like a 277 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:49,640 fun digging. It was like in a yeah, no, like 278 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,240 you're asking. And now I'm going to tell you 279 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,840 like these. This I'm going to tell you about 280 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:56,120 yourself, right? And you don't want to hear it. 281 00:12:56,680 --> 00:12:58,000 Right. And that's I think the problem, 282 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:01,000 that's definitely the theme of the episode, is that like Lisa 283 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,400 won't own up to her own shortcomings. 284 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,800 And no matter who's telling her, you know, and then no matter how 285 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:11,280 good of a intention it is, she just won't own up to it. 286 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,800 Yes, so. Accountability. 287 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,560 She doesn't know how to take it. No, no, it's sad. 288 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:20,680 But yeah, I mean, again, if if you were telling me those things 289 00:13:20,680 --> 00:13:24,720 and telling me that like, you know, I disregard the things 290 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:27,160 that you, I would my, my, my own heart would be broken. 291 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,240 I just don't know how. Like just, I can't fathom. 292 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,960 But, but you know, we haven't been married for 18 years. 293 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:38,400 Or how long It's like, yeah, but there's still, this is a matter 294 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,520 of the amount of time. There's still, you know, basic 295 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,080 tenets. Right. 296 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:44,000 Right of marriage? I'd say Mormonism. 297 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,920 Remember, it's Mormon 2.0. Yes, yes. 298 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:50,000 I wonder how she feels about how they're special. 299 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,320 Yeah, I'm sure she'll she'll dig up some dirt on it, Yes. 300 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:59,640 So then the next. Bit was Angie and Mary. 301 00:13:59,680 --> 00:14:02,480 Which, OK, thank God they got over it. 302 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,880 Yes, I was worried that like they weren't going to resolve it 303 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:12,200 and what Angie was, what Mary was saying was very correct. 304 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:16,400 Angie got so upset she couldn't see anything beyond her and even 305 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,560 her really good friend couldn't calm her down that she was 306 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:22,640 lashing out at her good friend and it was just like not. 307 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:26,400 It was very unlike her to Mary, and so it was interesting to 308 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:31,040 hear Mary speak such truth. And I think also there was 309 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,400 definitely a part of, you know, where she says, you know, 310 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,440 Angie's been so chill. Like she's just normally so 311 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,600 chill about things. So for her to be so focused on 312 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,280 Lisa and kind of getting Lisa to like her, it just kind of like 313 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,720 probably came up very phony and fake to Mary. 314 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,720 Well, I think it's only with that it's like the when they 315 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,360 fell out, it was like became her mission to like take Lisa down. 316 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:57,920 Right. Right, in a sense. 317 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:02,920 And so I've because I've heard that, you know, Angie also gets 318 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,960 involved with like bloggers and people outside the show and, you 319 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:11,640 know, trying to find dirt. And so but I. 320 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,760 Believe Angie when she says like she is responding to the bully. 321 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,240 Like in Angie's mind, she's not like, and I think that's part of 322 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,600 the problem for sure, is that she's just not going to sit idly 323 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:26,960 by and let someone besmirch her good name because she is a 324 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,280 pillar of the community. So. 325 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Well, it's kind of similar to like, you know, the Gretchen 326 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,880 Tamra thing of like Gretchen thinking like, I need to fight 327 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,960 fire with fire. It's like, no, you don't, but 328 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:41,240 you don't need to come at Lisa like Lisa, stay who you are, you 329 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:42,720 know? You know that what she's saying 330 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,320 is bullshit. It's hard to like, yeah, when 331 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:48,560 you're in this environment to, like, think that way, but you 332 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,480 kind of have to. I don't know, like I agree with 333 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,880 you. I, I agree with the whole Tamara 334 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,720 and Gretchen analogy that like, I don't think it works in that 335 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:59,720 case. I don't think, I guess it's 336 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,080 probably just a degree of acceptance at that point. 337 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,760 Like I think I've come to accept that like Tamara's never going 338 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,960 to like accept whatever Gretchen has to say. 339 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:10,000 So don't come out of the same way. 340 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,440 I think Lisa isn't all that up there yet. 341 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,600 Like I, I think, OK, I don't know. 342 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,560 It's I guess is what I'm saying, Just like, well, no, I couldn't. 343 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,240 I leave by and have Lisa keep talking trash about me without 344 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:23,720 giving it back. And just like, oh, that's Lisa. 345 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:26,800 Like I think that's BS. That's true because that's kind 346 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,160 of what what Heather was saying that, you know, we can't just be 347 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:30,960 like, oh, that's Lisa. Like after a while it's like, 348 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:32,560 no, that's bullshit, right, right. 349 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,880 So but there's has to be like a a middle, middle point of light. 350 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,440 I'm not going to stoop to her level, but I'm also not going to 351 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:43,080 act like it's not happening and I'm going to stay true to myself 352 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,480 and not act out of character because that's what Mary kept 353 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:49,360 hitting the point home. You're acting out of character. 354 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,680 You got this woman, this one that's got you so flipped around 355 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,320 that you're focusing on things that don't matter and you're not 356 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:57,800 being yourself. Right, right. 357 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,960 So that was really sound advice. And then they just start talking 358 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:05,440 about farting and Angie's just trying to keep it together. 359 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:08,960 Like I, I this is a serious discussion. 360 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:11,240 I thought for sure Mary was going to be like, oh, are you 361 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:12,160 laughing at me? And like. 362 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:14,440 I didn't get. Out of there, but. 363 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,280 It's not funny. You made fun of my fart like I 364 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:18,680 farted. You made fun of my fart. 365 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,400 I mean, when they put the context of the dog farting in 366 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:24,920 there, I was like, I couldn't tell if Andrew was laughing 367 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,079 because like, oh, now you're blaming your fart on the dog? 368 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:29,400 I'm. Celia But I I really do I I 369 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,280 believe Mary in that case where she was like Mary farted that 370 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,280 one time and then other things happened and Angie just kept on 371 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:37,800 harping on it and like, oh, is that you? 372 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,840 Mary, 'cause I. Was that same go? 373 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:41,320 Yeah. But I would have done. 374 00:17:41,360 --> 00:17:42,440 This. But there is not that friend 375 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,040 that you can joke with like that. 376 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,520 But I think that's the weird thing though, that you're also 377 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,440 not expecting Mary to be like, oh, I farted. 378 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,280 And when she does, you're like, oh, apparently we can make fun 379 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,440 of that. Do you know that you're being 380 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,320 filmed right? Like Kate? 381 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,680 Because she wasn't in a full beat and she was farting so. 382 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,320 Yeah, that and that was interesting that she wasn't 383 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,240 wearing full makeup or I don't think it'll be, I think there's 384 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,920 minimal makeup at that, probably just normal everyday makeup, 385 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,720 right, but. Anyway, interesting, but yes, 386 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,800 they got to a good place. Glad they got moved past it. 387 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:18,160 Angie took accountability, apologized and I saw like what I 388 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,160 was saying last week about Mary being triggered by Angie anger. 389 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:25,200 She's voiced that. So not to be like I was right, 390 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,960 but I was right. I find it a little bit weird. 391 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:30,280 I don't, I don't necessarily believe the severity of it. 392 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:33,720 Like oh, I I only find friends once every 20 years like this. 393 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,680 I was like, I don't know. Once ever, like it's like a 394 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:40,720 Slayer is born. I got to understand like every 395 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,880 20 years. Yeah, I mean, I, I can see that 396 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:46,480 like in the context of this show, that Angie's probably the 397 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,640 most one that, you know, Mary gets along with the best. 398 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:51,560 Totally. And feels like she has a true 399 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:54,640 ally with the show. So maybe she's exaggerating the 400 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,560 importance of Angie's friendship. 401 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,440 But it does seem like a little bit of an overstatement of how 402 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:03,680 great friends they are. But maybe they are, I don't 403 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:04,680 know. You're lucky. 404 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,840 Yeah, Right. Basically, that's what she was 405 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,920 saying, right? The other thing that she said? 406 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:13,360 Was I'm gonna UN memorize your Yeah. 407 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:18,400 Since I would love to UN memorize a lot of people's 408 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:20,480 existence. Oh God, and that was a great 409 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:25,640 line. Yeah, you know, it's, it's funny 410 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,120 you hold a grudge on such a way that I'm pretty sure that you 411 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,000 have essentially unmemorized some people's existence. 412 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,520 No, because if I did, I won't be holding the grudge. 413 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,800 Oh, that's true. I don't know, like a grudge. 414 00:19:38,360 --> 00:19:41,280 I like holding a grudge. It makes me feel warm and fuzzy 415 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,880 at night sometimes. Like it also keeps me centered. 416 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:47,240 And like, because I do, I forgive people way too easily, 417 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,400 Yes. But then when I don't forgive 418 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,960 them, I do not forgive them. So like, I don't know, Like I, I 419 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:56,960 feel when I decide it's time for a grudge, it's like, OK, I need 420 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:58,760 to, I need to remain centered on. 421 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,800 People like say someone who didn't attend a wedding who you 422 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,760 still are in somewhat communication because I live 423 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,520 like. But that's like, that's the most 424 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,760 wise thing. We aren't, we run in the same 425 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,560 circles. I just can't ignore them. 426 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,960 I mean, I have to keep filming with them, so to speak, you 427 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,440 know? You couldn't start a whole new 428 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,400 group chat, so that would be inconvenient to the I. 429 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,720 Think I think they've already started a whole new group chat 430 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,960 without me is the fun part so I'm that one. 431 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,400 But. Well, screw that. 432 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,440 I don't mind, but you know, it's not like they exclusively use 433 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,880 that, so that's all right. I mean, I guess we all have 434 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:32,200 different group chats, but I know I'm sure we're not part of 435 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:32,600 that. Why? 436 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,160 Exactly right. Who cares about that? 437 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,760 We care about that deep in our heart. 438 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,560 Yeah, but like, if you're gonna be that way, then it's just not 439 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:45,560 a solid friendship and you've grown apart, you know? 440 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,920 Yeah. Well, we haven't unmemorized 441 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,560 their existence. Yet no, I have not. 442 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,160 We're going to see them in December. 443 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:59,880 So anyway, moving on, after the Mary and Angie scene was Todd 444 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,240 and Bronwyn getting ice? Cream. 445 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,720 Oh gosh, yes. I don't I, I. 446 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,280 There was really much that scene. 447 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,240 Other than her specifically saying don't eat my cherry and 448 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,200 then he eats her cherry which I can't tell if he was doing to be 449 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,000 funny or if he just accented he. Just didn't realize. 450 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:18,440 He didn't realize he wasn't trying to be funny. 451 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:20,080 I don't think Todd's a very funny person. 452 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,080 I think he can be funny. He's not completely oblivious 453 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,480 exactly in his own way. I just hate seeing. 454 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,960 I like that he's filming and like being present. 455 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,400 I can tell like he's doing it begrudgingly in a sense of like, 456 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,840 well, I need to combat like the sense that I don't respect you. 457 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,240 Like I need to be on right? Because I was really harsh last 458 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:41,120 season. Yes, I forgot about that. 459 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,520 The same time, he's not really demonstrating how much he 460 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,920 respects her. Well, he doesn't respect this 461 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,680 whole show and he doesn't understand like why you can't 462 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,360 just write these women off because they are your her 463 00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:53,800 coworkers. Just like he can't write off 464 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,040 people in business that he might not just right, right. 465 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,640 But like for him that's real money, that's real life. 466 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,560 This is like some BS reality show. 467 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,920 He doesn't understand like why his wife wants to be on it, 468 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,240 especially now if we get to the end and when this shit starts 469 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,920 coming up. So let's. 470 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:11,880 Just talk about that now. Get Bronwyn out of the way. 471 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:13,080 Group them together. Yeah, yeah. 472 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,800 Yeah, I mean, so like the I I remember vaguely hearing about 473 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,760 the whole identity theft, Grand Theft thing, but it never 474 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:19,960 nothing really a. Couple weeks. 475 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:21,440 Ago, but nothing really came out of it. 476 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,480 No. Well, they're filming. 477 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,200 I remember here reading about it, Yeah, but nothing really 478 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:26,880 came out of it. So I assume nothing really 479 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,720 happened. Well, she's saying that things 480 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,560 were dismissed. So it's like there's two things, 481 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,720 as she said, there's like an eviction and some other BS that 482 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,360 she did in college when she left BYU. 483 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:42,520 And then there's this whole, you know, like accusations of and a 484 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:47,200 theft and whatever that she says were dismissed and the case was 485 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,440 sealed. So she cannot talk about her 486 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:51,920 involvement. Seems really convenient to me, 487 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,920 but. I'd go with. 488 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,080 It, I mean, I'm no, I'm going to go with it because I like her, 489 00:22:55,080 --> 00:23:00,000 but it does seem like there's something but at the same point, 490 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,600 like how or yeah, I don't know. It doesn't seem like she's going 491 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,320 to be lumped. I wouldn't lump her on the fire 492 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:06,960 with Jen. I was. 493 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,160 Going to say she's not Jen's shot. 494 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,200 Yeah, no Norwich, yeah. So. 495 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,680 Was it something questionable? Probably, but also like how he 496 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,000 reacted and like how she was just very much like I know this, 497 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:19,640 you know, doesn't reflect well on you. 498 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,920 Like I think it was a very I thought that was a good 499 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:25,000 exchange. Like understand it's a good way 500 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,240 to explain or not explain, but like deal with your spouse of 501 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,000 like I know that like you're not thrilled about this. 502 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,600 Right, but. Here's the reality of it. 503 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,800 What are we going to do, you know? 504 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,600 And like his, his whole thing of like, don't go on the trip. 505 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,400 Well, it's like if you don't go on the trip, you look guilty. 506 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,840 She has to like get her point of view across otherwise they're 507 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,640 going to write it for her, IE with the Lisa stuff at the 508 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,800 beginning of the season. Oh, very true. 509 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,240 Very, very true. So she just needs to like, you 510 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,440 know, although she'll be able to say say much about it, she can 511 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:03,960 at least say that was dismissed. I am not a fraudulent person and 512 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,480 that's all I can say. Right, and prevent them from 513 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,960 saying other stuff. I don't know. 514 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,320 I would need to see more evidence to see to think that 515 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,000 Lisa started this or like perpetuated it. 516 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,720 That's what I don't get. That was a really weird jump for 517 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,400 them to go. It's convenient though. 518 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,200 I mean, think about they made-up, but also we thought 519 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:26,960 Lisa and Angie made-up. True. 520 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,840 Lisa could just like one day just be like, I thought I was 521 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,640 cool, but now I'm not cool and now I'm going and now I'm going 522 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,480 to or like she was looking for information and she got cool 523 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,560 with the person and then the information came in and she's 524 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,560 like, well, I paid for this or the. 525 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,480 Information. I was already out there and she 526 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,320 couldn't stop it right. So you can't stop the money 527 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,880 train. Why don't you go the distance? 528 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,000 It's gone. Right. 529 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,960 So my problem with that, though, is that it's very convenient for 530 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,800 like now that Heather is ramping up this, well, I don't know, 531 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,400 Like we all know that Lisa does this sort of thing and like even 532 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,360 she's getting married, trying to get married at the turn, you 533 00:24:58,360 --> 00:25:01,160 know? Heather was really activating 534 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,560 for some, well, when to Lisa's face she was saying you can be a 535 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,440 crappy friend, you can go just as low, you know, making Lisa 536 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,560 cry. And again, she's crying from 537 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,600 Lisa's episode. And, you know, she was just 538 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,600 like, basically saying like, I love you, we're friends, but 539 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:22,960 like, I'm calling you out to your face. 540 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,440 And she still wouldn't hear it. She still wouldn't have. 541 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,840 Like no. How dare. 542 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,320 You you know, And then she thought she should go to 543 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,000 Meredith, who's just going to run and take this back to Lisa 544 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,680 next episode. I'm sure, Oh I'm sure that like 545 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,760 Heather was like smack about her saying she's a shitty. 546 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,160 Friend But with the whole Bronwyn thing, like my, my worry 547 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,000 is that Heather and Bronwyn we'll get next week, we'll get a 548 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,360 last week, Heather and Bronwyn sat down and we're talking about 549 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:47,760 Lisa and how she digs stuff up on people and which would give 550 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,600 Bronwyn the right opportunity to say this is what Lisa does. 551 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,040 This is Lisa's fault. Like you would. 552 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,600 It's just interesting that, like, Heather is going to be 553 00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,320 leading the charge of, you know. The anti Lisa charge. 554 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:02,680 Yes, yes. Well, I we were talking about 555 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,720 it, it has to be because she can only take this empty nest thing 556 00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:07,360 so far. She knows that's the case. 557 00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,960 And she knows the last couple seasons she's just been kind of, 558 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,840 I mean, she's stirred the pot, but she really hasn't been the 559 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,720 center of attention. She's just been. 560 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,800 She was the center of attention, which she was part of it was 561 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,360 being against Lisa, right? And people really liked that 562 00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:24,280 counterpoint, right? And then she hopped on the Lisa 563 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:28,880 train and now for some reason she's off the train and. 564 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,640 And I like that she's playing both sides because she's like, I 565 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,920 want to be on the train, but I just, you know, there's 566 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,720 problems. This is a bad train. 567 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,760 It's hard to like, see past your faults, right? 568 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,560 And I like that she, I like that she's saying it's Lisa's face. 569 00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,520 I like that she's. Being upfront while shopping 570 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,880 that weird store though that. Poor girl, that poor. 571 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,920 She's like girl. Like girl was like 16 if she was 572 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,840 a day. She might have been like 19, 573 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,520 like college age fresh, but still at the same time like 574 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,400 every time you could, they only showed her every time they 575 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,080 bleeped out. Lisa saying see you next 576 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,840 Tuesday. Is that what she was saying? 577 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,400 Yes, I was. She was. 578 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:11,120 In public, throwing the sea bomb around and I'm just like, oh, 579 00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:13,960 that poor girl, like I mean. That's even worse. 580 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,120 Yeah, I mean, I can tell they had the IT seemed like they 581 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,720 distorted themselves. They keep having people walk 582 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,200 behind them. But I think there were other Co 583 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,320 workers or employees who have to watch these two. 584 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,680 And you know, it'd be one thing if they were all like, Oh my 585 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:28,720 God, I can't believe that we're watching a housewives fight. 586 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:30,800 But they were just like, Oh my God, is she really saying that? 587 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:32,800 Jesus, how dare you say that? Definitely Father. 588 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,240 Definitely father indeed. And then Lisa like with like her 589 00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,040 wad of cash. Who carries around that much 590 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,240 cash? Nobody does. 591 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,280 I mean, you know what happened. Like actually she's telling me a 592 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,800 story. First season of Jersey, like 593 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:51,040 Teresa was like out shopping and she had a wad of cash like that. 594 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,760 And she later said the producers, like, made her do 595 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,800 that because they wanted to be like, oh, look at my jersey in 596 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,680 my. So I think it's like. 597 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,200 I don't know it's. Weird that I'm not saying that's 598 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,960 the same thing with Lisa, but it's just weird for her to be 599 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,840 like, look at my hundreds and let's just be like, I'm so rich, 600 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,160 right? Oh right, I'm not having money 601 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,760 problems if I was having money problems. 602 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,200 Although to me, if you're having credit problems, that's the only 603 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:13,280 reason. You would be paying with cash. 604 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,160 But you would only be paying with cash, so. 605 00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,280 Like, unless did you really actually take that guy's credit 606 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,760 card? I I don't know, it's a double 607 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,520 blood bladed sword on that, but like it didn't seem really phony 608 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,400 and fake to me. Like, oh, look at all this cash 609 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:25,880 she kept playing with. It doesn't. 610 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,240 It like, are you going to Magic Mike after this? 611 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,360 Are you wearing pants? Yeah, yeah. 612 00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,480 And are you tipping hundreds she's making? 613 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,880 A really weird leather outfit. She's in the weird leather 614 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:35,600 outfits. Yes. 615 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,240 Meredith, I have to say, stood up pretty well to scrutiny and 616 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,480 just her like you'd think, I would have thought she would 617 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,600 have maybe taken Heather's, picked up what Heather's putting 618 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,400 down. Because Meredith and Lisa are 619 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,800 like, it's US against the world, basically. 620 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,360 Yeah, I mean. They know a lot of stuff about 621 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,800 one another. They made a truce. 622 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,400 I don't think they're. Lisa profusely apologized a 623 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,160 couple years ago. For calling her in a family 624 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,680 Trash posers and I think yeah, they basically they made a pact 625 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,720 and they're sticking to it and and yeah, they just don't want 626 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,760 they if everyone comes for them. They want to know at least they 627 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,760 have each other. So I do not think Meredith will 628 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,720 will not will go against Lisa. I don't think that's fun. 629 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,600 I don't like that. It's alliances. 630 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,160 It's Housewives. I suppose Whitneys only 631 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,760 involvement was filling out the reference sheet for the yacht. 632 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,800 Right, I know that was a thing. I would love to make sense 633 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,520 sheets. Yeah, like you have your own 634 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,600 writer for being on the boat that would be. 635 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,680 Almost. I'd be like, I like pancakes and 636 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,160 scrambled eggs and sausage. When I when Heather was filling 637 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,080 it out, I was like, OK, I like their breakfast focus. 638 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,600 Like I never wouldn't have thought To me, you know, I'm not 639 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,920 a big buffet person. Like I enjoy a buffet. 640 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,680 Like when there's a trip and we're going to be there for like 641 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,200 a couple hours hanging out, whatever. 642 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:59,120 But like the idea of having like 4 different types of breakfast 643 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,480 and one breakfast sitting, I'm just like, that's wasteful. 644 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:02,880 I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't eat. 645 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,920 I feel like they were just they were going to bring them a 646 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,000 plate. Right, that's what I thought, 647 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,480 but not like it's. Going to be like a buffet where 648 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,960 you keep going back. No, I know, but like still. 649 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,480 Nothing for. Different, like she had a plate 650 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,280 of four different things. Like, I'm not necessarily going 651 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,440 to want to eat like, like huevos rancheros with French toast with 652 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:19,800 all those other things, you know? 653 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:21,560 And now and Mary's not going to eat all those berries. 654 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,880 It is probably very wasteful. But I'm sure, right, If we watch 655 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,440 Below Deck, we would know what happens to the remainder of the 656 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,600 food. Well, I mean, I think they're 657 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,680 probably going to get us with this crossover if it's really 658 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,320 truly a crossover. Totally, totally. 659 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,400 So although then we're going to get to know what boat people 660 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,040 are. It'll be OK. 661 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,120 I did feel when they were coming down on Mary for like, you 662 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,240 haven't filled this out yet. I really feel like Mary just 663 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,960 wanted someone else to fill it out for her and she got what she 664 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,000 wanted. Don Perion. 665 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:52,160 Three 3000 times Don Perignon. 2000, 2003, yeah. 2003. 666 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,320 Don perion parfait Like put that down, Parfait what? 667 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,560 Kind of parfait. Like there could be plain 668 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,800 yogurt, could be strawberry parfait. 669 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,440 Yogurt, they said. Yogurt Parfait. 670 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,840 I know, but what kind of yogurt? I don't know, just. 671 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,080 Plain yogurt with lots of blueberries. 672 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,200 Can you talk about the Brittany of it all? 673 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,520 Oh, I forgot about. That was so unexpected. 674 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,840 Expected prefer to have a whole scene by herself without another 675 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,960 housewife with her daughter. Her daughter got a confessional. 676 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,120 I was like what is going? On That's because her daughter 677 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,720 walked in with the homework assignment all ready to go. 678 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,520 I was afraid that her daughter would be very intimidated by 679 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,960 being on film, but she's like, if you're going to do this, 680 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,120 we're going to do this, right? And she read. 681 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,920 When she was saying, like the last time you did this, you 682 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,240 brought Jared with you and then you started making out in front 683 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,800 of me, I thought the next thing in her mouth was, and now you 684 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,360 brought these fucking cameras with you. 685 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,960 Like, how serious? How serious? 686 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:48,320 How are you? This is how we have a 687 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,120 conversation. You have to like have. 688 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,280 A reason, yes. Yeah, like I would feel like she 689 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,240 was, you know, you're using me for a story. 690 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:56,840 Right. And I really thought we were 691 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,120 going to get some of that, or at least the the. 692 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,680 If she had broken the 4th wall and said it would really be, 693 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,600 would we be meeting here? Would we be meeting here if this 694 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,760 wasn't happening? Yeah. 695 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,440 Would you care? Unless she wanted to show 696 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,040 something on camera. And I can't imagine that that 697 00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,800 did not get said and we just did not see it because everything 698 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,640 else seemed to have gotten said. She was really like giving it to 699 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,080 her. You know, I don't understand. 700 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:26,520 I'm not I, I think that she, Brittany loves her children. 701 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,840 I don't understand, though, choosing somebody over them, 702 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,200 unless it's something to do with Mormonism, or if it's just like 703 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,360 needing to have the security of a man feel like he failed your 704 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,960 first marriage and you have to like, you know, try to. 705 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,800 Make up for compensation. Yeah, yeah. 706 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:42,920 Yes. I don't get that. 707 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,640 The fact that she was such a great mom, according to her 708 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,120 daughter, and then she really. See, that's what made me think 709 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,600 that, like it's the security part of it, because when she was 710 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:56,040 secure, when she knew she was being taken care of, yeah, and 711 00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,200 she had these kids, she felt like she was free to do all 712 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,440 those things. But it seemed like the minute 713 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,800 that the divorce happened, and I don't know why the divorce 714 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,400 happened, we got any detail as to why she and her. 715 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,520 I also didn't know that she remarried after. 716 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,320 I didn't know. I thought it was like the one 717 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:11,800 marriage. Yeah. 718 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,800 So that's new to me, so. She's a twice divorced right 719 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Mormon. Right. 720 00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:21,280 And so to me, that's how it reads to me is that like she 721 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,800 once she didn't have that security, she couldn't think 722 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,960 about anything else. Like it to me, it just really 723 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,640 reeks and not in a bad way. I really try not to say this in 724 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,640 a judgmental way, but it like it just seems to me that she was 725 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,720 needing to know she was going to be taken care of so she could 726 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,160 take care of others and without that. 727 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,400 But so like as long as she gets into the second marriage and 728 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,280 she's taken care of but why is she drop her kids? 729 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,560 It could be that like he was insecure, like it wasn't the 730 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,320 same dynamic. She felt like she had to keep 731 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:54,880 giving all of her attention to him to keep that security so and 732 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,720 obviously that she. Needs to like, dig really deep 733 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,240 because she did not have an answer for her daughter and she 734 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:00,840 needs to like figure that out if she's going to have a 735 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,360 relationship with her daughter. Yeah, yeah, I think Olivia would 736 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:04,240 agree. Yeah. 737 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,440 So she seemed very level headed, very smart. 738 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,360 Pretty Does it expect her to be so tall? 739 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,520 Very tall. Or is it that Brittany's so 740 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,400 short? She's so short and all that hair 741 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:16,679 just overwhelms her. Yeah. 742 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,159 I think, I mean to be objectively honest about this 743 00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:23,440 thing, I don't think Brittany would have gotten her own scene 744 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,360 had her daughter not been as assertive and like clear spoken 745 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,120 as she was. Yeah, like it was just like, you 746 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,480 know, kind of more awkward and right, or just like putting a 747 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,199 Band-Aid on it, like, yeah, let's do something again, you 748 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:37,440 know that it. Just seemed like a very genuine 749 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,800 scene, like the fact that they were both crying and like, you 750 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,199 know, she called her out on her shit and and wasn't really 751 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,080 pulling any punches. I feel like that's really got 752 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,239 that seen through because that's, I think honestly it felt 753 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,800 like an actual piece of reality TV. 754 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,320 Also, too, it's like, we just know Brittany usually is, you 755 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,320 know, the Jared thing or like, you know, wanting the attention 756 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,000 and like, you know, I have an announcement. 757 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,120 So she's usually the butt of the joke. 758 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,440 So to see her, like, have a real scene. 759 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,360 Yeah. And was very interesting. 760 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,480 I almost felt bad for her. I mean I did feel bad for her 761 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,080 but that like she just didn't it. 762 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,480 Wasn't respond rating? She was just, I don't know, 763 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,920 Olivia. It's like, how do you not know? 764 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,960 I don't know, I feel like she knew and she just didn't want to 765 00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,600 say. She just didn't want to, you 766 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:27,800 know, verbalize it like she has to, she has to, she has to have 767 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,440 insecurities. She just doesn't want to tell 768 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,320 her kids or talk about her, you know, just exposed to the world 769 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,680 especially. So I think she knows, but it's 770 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,040 hard to talk about. Hard to articulate it, yeah. 771 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,480 It's sad, but hopefully you know. 772 00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,280 I want to see more of Olivia and to see where this goes. 773 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,760 And I hope that she talks about it with Whitney. 774 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,560 And she's like, see, I told you, I shook you in that plant store 775 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,320 and I said, put down the cactus and you, you know. 776 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,600 Olivia just wants to be on Next Gen. 777 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,560 NYC, she says. Like, oh, I'm going to be a 778 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,520 daughter of a housewife. I moved to New York. 779 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,760 I'm moving in with Alexa with Ariana. 780 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,160 Ariana, now that we're going to be have roommates. 781 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,200 My good friend Brooks. No, I'm kidding. 782 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:12,560 I don't. I don't think this can happen. 783 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:15,360 But yeah, so many things happen in this episode. 784 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,920 So many things are we forgetting. 785 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,440 Where are they? No, I mean, Meredith, other than 786 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,440 the conversation with Heather, really didn't have anything 787 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,880 other than the fact that she's driving now. 788 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,360 Saying like. Wow, cars. 789 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,200 Cars have really come a long way. 790 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,880 I. Think, she said. 791 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,480 Driving has really come a long way. 792 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,960 It wasn't even cars. It was. 793 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,160 I was like, OK. Has it? 794 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:35,800 Did the did the wheel get reinvented? 795 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,800 Weird. I don't think so. 796 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,760 Yeah, and that was everyone. Yeah, it was mainly A Bronwyn 797 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,160 only had scenes with Todd except for that flashback. 798 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,040 Yeah. We got the yeah, we at the end 799 00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:49,600 with like Whitney and Angie and Mary. 800 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,480 So yeah, I think. It was all good. 801 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,520 I think we've covered it all, so should we talk about it next 802 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:55,520 time? Till next time.