1 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,520 Welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. 2 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:19,720 I'm Scott. And I'm Jeff. 3 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,920 And we just watched episode of The Real Housewives of Orange 4 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,520 County. Sure did. 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:27,320 Yes, Episode 333, just in case you thought it was four. 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,880 Yeah, exactly. Now it's a pretty good episode. 7 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,240 Yeah, it was good. Yeah, like every episode. 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,240 I can't remember how it began, but. 9 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,160 Every time we do this. I know it's like one of us 10 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:40,680 should take notes. We were smart enough to take 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,920 notes about what we thought our title of the episode should be. 12 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,360 Which yes. Two guys doing haiku. 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:49,200 Heather Dubrow. She really? 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,360 I mean. Really knows how to be silly. 15 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:53,800 Like. She really she's a wack. 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,720 It's a wink and a nob nob and like. 17 00:00:57,320 --> 00:00:58,520 A nod. A wink and a. 18 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,920 Nod. Nod, nod, I say. 19 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:02,640 Nob. You said nob, Yeah. 20 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,720 He'll not he'll. Yeah, it's a wink and a nod and 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:10,120 A and some camp and some. A girl in the champagne glass. 22 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,400 Never seen that before. No, we've seen the girl wearing 23 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,360 the champagne dresses, right? It's a bit. 24 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,840 But yeah, it was very like, almost told Hollywood. 25 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,240 I'm glad she pulled back and didn't go Old Hollywood. 26 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,160 I have to say, for all the Flack the people are giving her for 27 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,880 celebrating her birthday two months later, I mean, two months 28 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,240 is a bit late. And I think Emily has it right. 29 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,480 Just call it a party. But, you know, if I was born 30 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:36,680 that close to Christmas and New Year's, I too would want to, you 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:39,600 know, save it for a time when people aren't burnt out on 32 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,840 partying. Because after Christmas and New 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,560 Year's, people are just like, oh, I'm so tired. 34 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:46,240 And even Heather mentioned a lot of people are doing Dry January, 35 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:48,040 so they want to go to a party, right? 36 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,600 And so like, yeah, I, I'm all for it. 37 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,120 Like if I had a kid who was born around then we would celebrate 38 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,080 their birthday, then a small little family thing and then a 39 00:01:56,080 --> 00:01:58,400 big party like in this. I have to say, it's like with 40 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,400 the event space, like she said, it was going to cost so much. 41 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,280 I think all the money went into the event space it seemed. 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:07,320 Yeah, like unless the haiku guys are very expensive. 43 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,360 I mean, I mean, some haiku people, they charge, they charge 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,400 per word. Well then it wouldn't be as 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,680 expensive, would it? I never liked tycoons. 46 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,640 I never liked poetry driving it in in. 47 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,920 High school, yeah. It's never been my favorite 48 00:02:21,920 --> 00:02:25,080 thing either. And also the haiku thing. 49 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,080 And especially because everyone is throwing clapping because 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,720 they're trying to figure out the syllables. 51 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,160 Oh, that whole thing. No. 52 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,840 That venue that they had the party at, I would need to look 53 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,960 up where it was. It looks really familiar and it 54 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,920 makes sense that it's an old televangelism kind of place. 55 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,680 But those curtains that were set up makes me wonder if the entire 56 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,160 place was gaudy and had that like. 57 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,080 I think it was probably gaudy. It was all everywhere. 58 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,800 Get out. But with it, with the curtains 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,040 up like that, it just made it look like it was another, you 60 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,200 know, like it could have been in the basement at the Hilton, you 61 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:02,960 know, like it. Didn't I was like, where are we? 62 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,440 Yeah, so they wouldn't that mirror room and like explore the 63 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,720 place. I I was like, what, What's going 64 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,800 on? Yeah, it could have been, you 65 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,160 know, at the gym, you know, it could have been anywhere. 66 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:13,680 They just put up curtains and you know, oh, here you go. 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,160 It could have been a tent outside. 68 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:16,440 It's really they they dress it up. 69 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,760 But but yeah, it was nice. I think we started off with 70 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,320 like, I hope it was the first scene, but it was. 71 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,000 Was Heather showing up to meet Kate and. 72 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,760 No, not Katie. Jen and Shannon for lunch. 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Yes. So they can bitch about Katie. 74 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Yeah. I was like a lot of cross 75 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:38,280 cutting. So it was that and then like. 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,080 It was Katie and Gina at doing the head the massage place. 77 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:47,560 Another scalp massage, massage, and then Tamra and Emily. 78 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,400 They're just talking about one another. 79 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:51,960 The consensus was Katie's a liar. 80 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,680 Tamra's been stirring stuff up and then we get to like kind of 81 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,920 talking about her party and not wanting Ryan there because he's 82 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:04,680 so litigious and, you know, she and losing her shit. 83 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,440 Yeah, she really went. From the fact that those people 84 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,880 next to him were like can you not, you crazy person? 85 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:15,760 Yeah, she really went from zero to like really upset, which 86 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,360 makes me think she might have actually been a really upset 87 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,360 about it, but. Look, I understand what she's 88 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,800 saying, You know, about like, you know, buying, paying for 89 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,880 lawyers she can't afford and you know that. 90 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,520 Well, and that Heather really is choosing Tamara by even asking 91 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,880 that question, but at the same time, I mean you just. 92 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,480 Got She's known Tamara for years. 93 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,840 Just got here. Girl, you just got here. 94 00:04:36,840 --> 00:04:38,960 You're in La Boo. Your La Boo Boo boyfriend just 95 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,760 got here and just stop it. Of course you're not going to be 96 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,960 chosen over her. Yeah, like you. 97 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:47,320 And then you accuse her of basically like licking Tamara's 98 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,000 butt and it's like her being afraid of her. 99 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,320 And I said this to you and I'm going to say Heather. 100 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:54,960 And I'm not even like, I like Heather. 101 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,160 I'm not like, you know, like insane about Heather. 102 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,000 Heather is Heather effing Debro. She's not afraid of anybody. 103 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,840 Like she was brought back to this show. 104 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,320 She left on her own accord and she came back on her own accord 105 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,040 probably after they threw like a buck a load of money out at her 106 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,360 because Tamara had left the show and he had somebody else to 107 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,960 balance it out. So she's not like running scared 108 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,120 from Tamara and afraid to like invite someone else who Tamara 109 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,640 doesn't like to her party. She's just saying, I actually 110 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:25,720 probably wouldn't want to invite, but I want to be a 111 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,480 bitch. And so you can't bring your 112 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:32,040 boyfriend who's a tool donkey, but. 113 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,640 A tool donkey. It comes out, I don't know these 114 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,320 are. Magical ways to not swear. 115 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,160 Is that what it is? Yes, a douche nugget. 116 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:45,240 Yes and douche sauce. So she doesn't want money, but 117 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,000 she like has to put it this way and like virgin to lose her her 118 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,480 shit. It's like I understand like if 119 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,000 it was Katie saying this to you, but it's Heather, 1 of Tamra's 120 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,840 good friends, right. Do the math, girl. 121 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:58,720 You're not going to rank higher than that. 122 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,680 Yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's a good bugs me. 123 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,920 Well, and then moving, I think it's a good time to talk about 124 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,480 her whole family update where they're like talking to her kid 125 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:14,800 about joining the Marines and then cosigning a loan for USC 126 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,240 for his brother and. Like I didn't know. 127 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,000 So basically we're saying that Jen's ex-husband got her son 128 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:28,680 Dawson to cosign a loan for her other son to go to college, and 129 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:30,720 now this kids are going to be on the hook if something goes 130 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,720 wrong. Yes. 131 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,360 Why are you blowing up your ex-husband we've had issues with 132 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:41,440 in the past when you. Yeah, he doesn't. 133 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,240 It's doesn't seem like the white the the just moves and then I 134 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,000 don't know, like you had to remind me that Ryan has a is. 135 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,000 A father. He has one child. 136 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:50,200 Yeah. A. 137 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,760 Child of his own, but just hearing he just seemed like the 138 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,680 least paternal person I've seen on television in a very long 139 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:00,800 time. Goof goof Easter goof. 140 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,880 I want to know when we're done with this I want you to tell me 141 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,240 what words you're really trying to use. 142 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:06,280 I. Don't know what words I'm trying 143 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,200 to use. Yeah, it just. 144 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,840 And then he shows up at the party at the end wearing a 145 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,880 hoodie and jacket combo, like sneakers, like he's Mark 146 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,400 Zuckerberg from 2003. Like I don't understand the 147 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,720 look. I don't understand the. 148 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,600 That is where Zuckerberg would do that, yeah. 149 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,400 The tan like I don't know why the man is so overly. 150 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,480 That tan they're both so overly tan, it's like they're gonna do 151 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,440 a bodybuilding competition. Yeah, and maybe do they do 152 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,640 bodybuilding competition? No, that was Tamra. 153 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,640 But I mean, Jen's trying to steal her life, so maybe she is. 154 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:43,160 I think Theresa did it first and Tamra, whatever, they're overly 155 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:47,000 tan, overly it's and that that whole I understand. 156 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:50,680 It's like, I need a story. So you know this whole thing 157 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,080 with Dawson and da da da. I mean, I think that that. 158 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,480 That is her family life, that is her story. 159 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:56,560 I get it. I just, I get because I just 160 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,720 don't like her so much. It's just making me like just 161 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:02,520 picking every little thing. I kind of, I don't know, I kind 162 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:06,680 of enjoyed the scenes and I kind of wish that there was not more 163 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,320 of that, but I wish that she was more. 164 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,040 I don't know. I think it sounds typical like 165 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:14,920 housewife thing. She is clearly a really good 166 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:18,720 mother, like she and she it's it's nice to see her like she 167 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,640 excels at being a mother. Yes, and I don't think she 168 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,480 excels at being a Real housewife of Orange County. 169 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,480 So it's nice to see her doing well with something, you know, 170 00:08:27,480 --> 00:08:30,240 You know what I'm saying? Someone said that she was like 171 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:33,799 the future of OC. Well, whoever said that was 172 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:35,480 wrong. Yes, he is. 173 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:40,880 He is. So I don't think she can do it. 174 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:45,120 She's not cut out for this life. Well, I mean, I, I don't know 175 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:46,560 that's, that's a little bit much. 176 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,320 She'd be a good friend of I think, but I don't think she's 177 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:53,320 like 1/2. I don't know unless she starts 178 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:56,360 stirring the pot other than by denying she was places, you 179 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,040 know, because that seems to be the one thing that she doesn't 180 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,600 remember girl. And then when I. 181 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:04,000 I'll get some ginkgo, I know. And then like, I think Emily and 182 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:05,960 Gina were like, no. She tends to forget things 183 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:07,080 though. Like Heather said that. 184 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Yeah. Heather's like, I believe 185 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:13,080 Alexis, yeah. Yeah, it just, yeah, I don't. 186 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,600 And again, I, I want to see her do what she does well, and it, 187 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,360 it seems to be being a mother, but she does seem like she's 188 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,480 caught in headlights whenever she's interacting with the women 189 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,480 or like, I don't know, she just doesn't seem confident with 190 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,120 herself. I'd like to see that happen. 191 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:30,960 Right. I mean, yeah, we interesting to 192 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:35,240 see her all sit down, Tamron. She's just so yeah, I don't know 193 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:40,040 how how to how to phrase it, but like, it bugs, it bugs. 194 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:45,280 Shannon's whole thing was like this episode was, I know all 195 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,600 these guys in love hotel and they're my friends, Wink wink. 196 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,080 They went. They went bowling with. 197 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,160 Adam. Adam And then that was Emily and 198 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,840 Shane and then Travis and Gina where they were, right. 199 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,600 And then Gina was sitting there giving giving Adam the third 200 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,440 degree. I was I thought she was being 201 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,840 funny, but she was not. I think she was very dead 202 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:04,440 serious. Yeah. 203 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:08,640 And then the, the, the, just the back, the going at it over and 204 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:10,400 over and over and like, I wonder how long they were actually 205 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,520 there. And if it wasn't like 4 hours, 206 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,680 then she was like every 10 seconds sort of. 207 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,160 Are this, are you a night owl or do you drink a lot? 208 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,200 Do you have? A4O1K. 209 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:22,040 It was just like calm. What's? 210 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,040 Your ear. Calm it down. 211 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,240 Yeah. So for Travis to be like, hey, 212 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:28,560 dial it back. And then she's like, yeah, yeah, 213 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:29,400 I'm being intense. You're right. 214 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:33,480 I am being and. Then she brought Earl to not 215 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,560 Earl, not Earl. Paul, not Paul. 216 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,760 Giselle's cats. Yeah, yeah, I forget his name. 217 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,080 I do too. Paul. 218 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:43,600 I know it's Paul. It's not Paul. 219 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:47,200 Anyway, but she's brought that guy, Yes, but they're just 220 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,480 friends though. No, he's a very good man. 221 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:50,960 Yeah. He's like, yeah. 222 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,280 What else was that? Everything that happened. 223 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,960 No, no, no, no, there was. So Emily's. 224 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:06,600 No, Tamara, sit down with Heather and you know she really 225 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,640 is going through it. Oh yeah, yeah. 226 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,120 That's therapy in the teddy of it all, and you know. 227 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:17,120 Yeah, and I think that's even. She's bringing up her daughter 228 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:20,640 on camera, which is something that she tends not to do. 229 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,400 Like, I think it lends some legitimacy to the, you know, 230 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,400 actual. Yeah. 231 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,160 Work she's doing. I think the daughter of it all 232 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:31,760 should just not, I mean, she shouldn't bring it up and I 233 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,160 think no one else should bring it up, right? 234 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:34,800 Because her daughter does not want to be brought up on the 235 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,200 show. And I think it's real that I 236 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:40,560 don't think, you know. I mean, I don't know all the 237 00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:44,560 details, but I think she's deeply hurt by it and trying to 238 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:46,320 to deal with it. Yeah, yeah. 239 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:48,840 So but yeah, that was really sad. 240 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,880 But she's just like, you know, I'm kind of just, I'm getting 241 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,840 through and they're trying to make it through and, you know, 242 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:56,800 like focused on Teddy and, you know, worrying about her and. 243 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,920 It was interesting to see because they were showing clips 244 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:03,120 from last season where she, you know, put on the FBI hat. 245 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,480 Tamara was very performative last season. 246 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:07,320 Tamara. Was intense last season. 247 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:09,520 I'll say again, very performative. 248 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:11,760 I don't know if it was intense. But it wasn't the whole stuff 249 00:12:11,760 --> 00:12:14,560 with Shannon when she like kept calling her an alcoholic she 250 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,760 lost her shit on. Yeah, that's true. 251 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,320 But it just seemed, it just seemed like theatrics for the 252 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,080 sake of theatrics. Well, the FBI hat thing for 253 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,240 sure. Yeah, but I think this season 254 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,640 she's definitely calmer, whether that's by design or by, you 255 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:31,000 know, it's just naturally coming about because. 256 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,240 You also get, I think, well, with the teddy and the therapy, 257 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,800 and you get a lossy thrown at you, you're going to calm it 258 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,280 down when Heather was like, you're so calm. 259 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:41,800 And it's like, yeah, I wonder why? 260 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,560 No, but I, I like seeing it because I think that with all 261 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:47,600 the housewives, especially in Orange County, when they are 262 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,000 trying to be like activated and on all the time, they just go. 263 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,080 They go Like Shannon at the end, she's just not making any sense. 264 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,680 Just going like and throwing. Just everything's coming out of 265 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:00,160 her mouth left and right. It's like just being calm and 266 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,000 like being normal and real about things. 267 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,920 I think is gonna give things a little bit more of an even keel. 268 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,000 I think so too. It's like, I think, you know, 269 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,280 she hopefully is pivoting from last year and learn from it and 270 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,120 will do better. And it's like, and it's it's 271 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,360 housewives. You can't always take the High 272 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:18,840 Road. You can't always, like, go high 273 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,280 when they go low. Shut up's gritty. 274 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,680 Yeah. But you know, sometimes it 275 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,160 behooves you to do so to show you're the better person. 276 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:32,240 Yeah. Maybe not next next week, 277 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,160 because she's going. To well, not every week can be a 278 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,160 winner, yeah. Yeah, for you, but I was just 279 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:43,720 thinking with the whole like Shannon, Katie thing, every day 280 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:47,200 for Shannon is a tirade. Every episode is a tirade. 281 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,480 So. And you're being recorded right 282 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,120 now. I understand. 283 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,520 I'm not playing dumb. I get what she's saying about 284 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,480 secretly recording. We're not expected to be 285 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:00,720 recorded at a gallery shoot. But you are this level all the 286 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,640 time, lady. So it's just, I don't know. 287 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,880 I just, I it's, it doesn't seem like that huge of a deal or 288 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,480 whatever, but. I think the way that the other 289 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,720 women were spectating and like, oh, no, I I I think, I think 290 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,080 Shannon's about to make a break for it. 291 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:18,960 Yeah, like her reputation, even amongst that circle is that 292 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,520 she's reactionary and she's going to have a fit and she's 293 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,920 going to run off. I can't be here anymore. 294 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,480 Like the fact that they can predict it and to the point 295 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,440 where they're making inside jokes about it that are no 296 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,520 longer that inside. They're on camera now. 297 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,720 And they're like all there was Heather, Gina and Emily and 298 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,400 Gretchen, who are all like, oh, oh, is she? 299 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,360 I know she's doing that thing, you know, So yeah, it's not a 300 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,400 surprise anymore. And I think it's that thing 301 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,680 that's what eventually it's hard for Katie to be taking her 302 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,800 seriously because she's just like, I've apologized and like, 303 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,440 you know, I've explained and now you're just being ridiculous 304 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:55,600 because like, oh, that's illegal. 305 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,080 And it's like. Well, and there's a couple of 306 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,920 things like, yeah, I'm not a Shannon fan by any means, but I 307 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,720 and I, I just said you're always in a tirade. 308 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,960 I get what she's saying. I don't think it's that huge of 309 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,880 a thing. I also understand her secret 310 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,800 point of view of Katie saying throwing in a butt to her 311 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,880 apology should just be like, I'm sorry, just like she said to 312 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:20,720 Gina and Emily, I'm so sorry I hurt you and leave it. 313 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,480 But I think that the fact that she's excusing it and like 314 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:24,920 saying well, da da da, da, da da da. 315 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:30,520 But the moment Katie when she said I never played it for 316 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:34,240 Alexis girl. But didn't she already say she 317 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,040 played it for Alexis? I can't remember the live. 318 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,040 I know either can she is the problem. 319 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:42,640 Oh we forgot about that. The Katie's whole family scene 320 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,480 about her son moving back. And that was sweet it. 321 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,320 Was nice, yes. See, again, she does well at 322 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:50,960 being a mom and being the family. 323 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:56,000 And I think she explained also, you know, kind of what a good 324 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,040 rebuttal to what Emily brought up at the reunion that like I 325 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,840 did what was right for my kids at the time. 326 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:03,120 And I think because of all these decisions I made, letting him 327 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,120 stay in Georgia and letting my other son stay in Georgia or San 328 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Diego rather than the other one in Georgia, it's what they 329 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,800 needed to be to be happy. And so even though it's not what 330 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,040 have made me happy, I did it for them. 331 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,080 I mean, it's good to see her be a good mother and. 332 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:21,040 Also been going along with that, had she stopped there at 3 Union 333 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,800 and explained what happened with being homeless and whatever, she 334 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:26,880 would have been I think kind of in the clear. 335 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:32,120 But the fact that she kept going to blogs and, you know, content 336 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:36,840 creators behind the women's back then, she like, got deep into it 337 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:41,720 and it got real murky. So because honestly, like, she, 338 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,360 Emily looked like an asshole. Yeah, when she brought up that 339 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:48,280 stuff at the reunion. But then for Katie, like, go and 340 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:52,040 talk to a Blogger about Emily's kids, it's like. 341 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,080 So the fact that we're only three episodes in and then Katie 342 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,800 seems to be getting it from every angle. 343 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,600 It's a pylon and that's a little bad for her. 344 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,400 But I mean, and it seems like she's kind of going to be taking 345 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:07,119 it up with Tamara because she thinks Tamara kind of made it 346 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:10,400 worse on her behalf. I mean, Tamara, yes, bringing up 347 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,800 the the whole recording of Amy she but you know. 348 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:16,280 But I mean, I do you think that there's any hope, do you think 349 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,119 that Katie will survive this season? 350 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,880 And do you think that like there's a chance that she'll be 351 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,960 back next season? It's only the third episode. 352 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:29,320 So I have to I have to think that there is enough ahead of us 353 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,960 where like just like with Beverly Hills last season that 354 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:36,280 once they got off, you know, Kyle texting PK for the 100th 355 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,880 time that it shifted and everything kind of lightened up 356 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,320 and changed to a different topic. 357 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,680 So do we think we're going to be hearing about Katie all season 358 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,160 long or do we think that this is going to move to something else? 359 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:46,680 I. Think it'll be all season long 360 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:50,360 and I think, I don't, I think it's not confirmed, but she 361 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:55,400 might not have been at the big trip to Amsterdam, so and no one 362 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,160 wants to have anything to do with her right now. 363 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,800 So I don't know if she's long for this world. 364 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,720 No, see, that's. I think she's putting herself in 365 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,480 an Alexis spot and no one wants to film with you or having to do 366 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,200 with you. It is doesn't feel organic for 367 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,360 you to come back. Yeah, I don't think it's going 368 00:18:12,360 --> 00:18:13,640 to happen. Yeah, that makes sense. 369 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,440 Yeah, but I don't like that. It's such a pile on. 370 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:20,800 And I wish, funny enough, that one person who's not really 371 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,360 piling on as much is Heather. Yeah, and it started with her. 372 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:26,640 Oh yeah? Well, she made those nice jabs 373 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,880 that I hired A photographer, which is different than hiring 374 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,560 paparazzi, yes. I think Heather is doing smart 375 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,600 thing. I mean, like, I'm just going to 376 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,560 sit back and watch this play out because I've already said in my 377 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:39,120 piece and she looked like a fool when she tried to come at me and 378 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:41,920 I'm going to let it happen. She can come to my party, but 379 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,480 these other tricks are going to destroy her and I'm going to 380 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,640 keep my cans clean. Back to Shannon freaking out 381 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:52,000 about being recorded. I don't like my I think Katie is 382 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,920 showing utter the utmost amount of patience with Shannon because 383 00:18:56,120 --> 00:18:58,120 it is not. And that's kind of where Katie 384 00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:01,840 starts to break from being apologetic is it is not the same 385 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,320 thing. I am not on the same level as 386 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:08,920 the man who sued you threatened to release video of you from his 387 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:11,440 Ring doorbell, like with a bloody face and all the like. 388 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:12,920 None of that. Like I that. 389 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,600 How is that the same thing? It's not. 390 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:18,560 If anything, Katie was being just being bitchy, honestly. 391 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:20,360 Yeah. She was like, look at this crazy 392 00:19:20,360 --> 00:19:23,760 ass chick losing her mind. I'm going to record this, share 393 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,480 it with my husband, maybe some friends. 394 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:28,600 We're going to gossip about it. Had a little Kiki. 395 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,480 I'm not going to use this in a litigious way, right? 396 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,040 I'm not going to try to entrap you. 397 00:19:34,360 --> 00:19:36,640 It's not illegal. It was just bitchy. 398 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,120 Yeah. And it wasn't someone who said 399 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:41,560 that like she wasn't going to use, like it couldn't have 400 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,760 bothered, couldn't have been used. 401 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,280 Alexa said it. Alexis was on the Carlos King 402 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,640 show and she said whatever, yeah, yeah, she said that and. 403 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,080 She confirmed that. She heard it. 404 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:55,800 So for Katie not to say I didn't play for Alexis. 405 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,000 Keep digging, girl. Like I want to be on your side. 406 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,280 I like him on one hand, but I'm also like, you are just effing 407 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,200 up left and right. I mean, I think you're. 408 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,040 On. I mean, with so many things on 409 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:11,720 these shows, like if the problematic issue was just like, 410 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:14,160 sorry, I did that, but I was just being bitchy. 411 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,320 I was just doing it to be petty. I'm sorry. 412 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:18,800 Yeah. Like, I think so many people 413 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,600 would just get past it. And especially because, like, 414 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,160 when have you not done something like that? 415 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:26,240 Exactly. Like let judge not lest they be 416 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,680 judged or camera judged, Yeah. Yeah, so. 417 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,800 Sorry, the cat is being really cute, you're never going to. 418 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:35,400 Be able to pick her up I will this. 419 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,400 Chord's in the way though I got. A whole microphone. 420 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,360 Yeah. Katie, I just there's I I don't 421 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:46,320 know. Yeah, it's not it's not good. 422 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,080 O. I'm I'm still trying to put my 423 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:54,440 finger on what makes OC like just these three episodes more 424 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:57,360 interesting than the 5 or 6 episodes we've seen of Miami. 425 00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:58,680 I think it's clearly because we're more. 426 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:00,360 Engaged with the women because we know them better. 427 00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:03,240 We've watched now two seasons of them together. 428 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,400 Yeah. You know, that's probably it has 429 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:06,680 to be. And we know like this sort of. 430 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,680 Thing it's like, you can say like, oh, what the Hell's going 431 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,680 on with like Gina and her hair? And maybe I was just thinking 432 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,240 that, you know, what's going on with her hair. 433 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,200 Her extensions are. Weird, I don't you are. 434 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,200 Oh, you're like the. Extension Spotter. 435 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,080 I really am I. I smiled it with Tam, she needs 436 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,800 to do some more blending at certain parts that she puts in 437 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:31,320 the back of her head. And then Jenna's always like, I 438 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:35,120 don't know. So yeah, yeah, you were like. 439 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:38,920 The critique of extensions. I love it and Shannon should not 440 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,560 pull. Her hair back that way, it's not 441 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,080 good. She needs hair around the face 442 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:43,960 to frame. I would agree with that. 443 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,520 Yeah, tag lines. Notice we didn't bring them up 444 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,720 at the top. Because they're. 445 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,280 Kind of the most boring tag lines we've heard in a long 446 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,280 time, wouldn't you say? Life is hard, and so are. 447 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,880 My ABS shut up, I mean. One, screw you for having ABS, 448 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:04,440 and then two, like, do you really want to be reduced to 449 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,520 being pretty? I mean, yeah, it's an 450 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,440 accomplishment. And yet if you, you know, you 451 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:12,600 were a smoke and a smoke show 45 year old, you know, or however 452 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,640 old she is, yeah, you'd brag about it. 453 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:15,920 But she's our age. Yeah. 454 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,600 So 40. 5 So you know, but to make that your tagline, and I 455 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,240 know that production chooses it for you sometimes, but like but 456 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,920 you have to like they give. You a few to work with and that 457 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,880 was the best one like I'm. Not your cup of. 458 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,720 Tea, but I'll bring you espresso martini. 459 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,680 That's your best one. I'm clunky. 460 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:34,280 It's very. Clunky and worthy. 461 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:35,800 And I mean it would have been. Better. 462 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,320 I don't they're trying to make the tea rhyme with martini, but 463 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,040 like it would have been better if like I may not be a cup of 464 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,840 tea, but I'll bring you a stiff drink would work 10 times 465 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,400 better, right. You know, so but espresso 466 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,040 martini. But I also don't like that they 467 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,280 make Emily's always have to do something about food or drink. 468 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:52,600 Yes. What's that? 469 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,040 About, I mean, just because she's. 470 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:57,240 The big girl like I don't that's what that's how it comes off and 471 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,320 I don't like that being the implication her theme. 472 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,320 I mean I. Know she's. 473 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,480 She's a little light hearted about it and she jokes about, 474 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,680 you know, the Taco and everything and always being 475 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,440 hungry and or handy. I say I want. 476 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,080 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. 477 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,880 So you know, was having a Taco was having. 478 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:12,360 A Taco? Yeah. 479 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,680 So, you know, that's fine if she's not bothered by it. 480 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,800 I'm not bothered by it. But at the same time, like, the 481 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,040 optics aren't the best. It's like food. 482 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,960 Is like her in this town. Yeah. 483 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,760 And that's not a good. That's not a good. 484 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,080 I don't like no. But I'm unless she's trying to 485 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,000 take back the, you know, take back the, the empowerment of it, 486 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,200 the narrative, the narrative and. 487 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,520 Then Shannon. 'S was the whole like the only 488 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,880 dogs in my life would be golden retrievers, and it's like that's 489 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,240 probably the most creative, but then like you're just reducing 490 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,080 yourself to crazy dog lady. That's not, but it's. 491 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,840 Like you're releasing yourself to like, I choose bad men and. 492 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,600 Think about that. That's her theme. 493 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,040 I choose bad man. Yeah. 494 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,360 And. Then there is that whole, you 495 00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,920 know, idea of a golden retriever boyfriend and who just wanted 496 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,000 follows you around and does whatever you say and that that's 497 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,680 also doesn't seem that's what she. 498 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,040 Wants does seem to. Like who can let her? 499 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,200 Be the the star, right? And so you're trying to tell me. 500 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,760 Earl, who is seen like the perfect golden retriever 501 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,640 boyfriend, probably like grew A backbone and and I think they. 502 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,600 Just weren't meant to be. No, they're. 503 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,960 I think Earl dodged the bull when I say it that way. 504 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:19,720 Earl. Earl. 505 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,960 Goodbye. Earl, what's that? 506 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,320 Dixie Chick Solomon. No, don't know. 507 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:28,360 It it was a goodbye. Earl had to die. 508 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,880 No, I, I think I know. What you're talking about there 509 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,240 and then more tag lines. There was Heather in the hills. 510 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,000 Which may only makes me. Think she was trying to be on 511 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,440 Beverly Hills and it didn't work out or is she aiming for that? 512 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,880 Like I think ultimately she. Wants to be on Beverly Hills. 513 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,960 Like I was reading that Terry, like his practice now is 514 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:52,000 primarily in Beverly in LA OK. So this is like this, like her 515 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:55,120 weekend job or something Like. Yeah. 516 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,600 And then there's Gino. I may work in real estate, but 517 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,560 I'm not buying what you're selling. 518 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:04,320 It's like. One, it's not like you're world 519 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,680 renowned real estate agent. No, it's not. 520 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,040 Like you're Rick Hilton. And you're on not Rick. 521 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,440 Hilton. Or Mauricio. 522 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,840 I'm just saying like. You're not someone who is like 523 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,760 you don't. You didn't come from, Yeah. 524 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,240 You're. You're not even, you know, one 525 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:24,160 of our local real estate agents. You keep, you keep recommending 526 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,280 Jen to people and then she doesn't pay her bills. 527 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,160 Like, how do you call yourself a real estate agent? 528 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:29,400 You're not totally. Kidding. 529 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,000 I love. Gina, but it's. 530 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,120 Like that's. A weird thing. 531 00:25:33,120 --> 00:25:34,080 I like Tamara. It's about the. 532 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:35,240 Reflection. It could have been awarded 533 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,160 better, yeah, but I liked it. Just overall boring. 534 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:40,440 Tagline, yeah. But I guess. 535 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,400 After him, Katie with. All Katie's. 536 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,080 Oh yeah, my truth. Yeah. 537 00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:51,240 Which, all right, I guess, but it's still kind of flat, yeah. 538 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,760 But. After 19 years, they've their 539 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,520 wells running dry, I mean. To basically go from like, I 540 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,920 think Vicky's original tagline was like, I don't want to get 541 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,800 old. And that was the tagline. 542 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,920 So they've evolved. They've evolved and they're. 543 00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,880 They're supposed to be sassy and, you know, a little double 544 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,120 entendre. And so, you know, I guess it's 545 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,360 only some it's. Really hard to eat every year 546 00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:15,880 with your tag life. We should talk because. 547 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,200 We're the ones who never think about our own tags. 548 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,320 We've had we've. Had some if I was some, but we 549 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,720 need to think of more. Especially if we're going to 550 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,560 Bravo concert because it always comes up. 551 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,880 We also need to think of good questions to ask at panels 552 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,720 because we will not, we will not be the people that ask if you're 553 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:32,720 in a desert. Island. 554 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,800 And you could and you could have so and so and so and so. 555 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,360 Who would you choose? Yeah, we're not doing that. 556 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,760 If you could bring back any housewife, who would you choose? 557 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,080 If you could do. Another franchise which Oh my 558 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,200 God, who would you bring on your? 559 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:48,760 Ultimate Girls trap? Yeah. 560 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,160 No, no. No. 561 00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,080 So we'll talk. I would say like, what do you 562 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,200 think is your best and worst reunion? 563 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,480 Look no. That's what I. 564 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,880 Wanted to go with, that'd be good. 565 00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:03,560 That again, yes, somewhere, I forget what context, I was a 566 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,040 podcast, I think I did an old episode of This American Life 567 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,600 where they were talking about like the way to ask questions 568 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,960 like that will always get a response when you ask like this 569 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,440 giant open-ended question of like, what's your best reunion? 570 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:18,920 Look, he's like, oh God, you're on the spot. 571 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,640 And like, I can't think back that far. 572 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,280 So I had to figure out what that was because there's a way to ask 573 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,600 the question or like you give them options and like they can 574 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,280 quickly choose one or the other, right? 575 00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,280 And then that way they're not like, oh God, no. 576 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:31,840 So I think that's the key to it as well. 577 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,080 I think I mean. I'm sure they must have like a 578 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,280 bass they're like they felt the most comfortable in and they 579 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,720 thought they looked hot and right so but someone's. 580 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,480 Like all of them. I, like, read all the time. 581 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,800 Yeah, except Giselle. She won't say that. 582 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,760 Oh, remember. Like, we noticed that, like 583 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,440 Alexia, we didn't bring it up last night. 584 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:51,480 Alexia was wearing the same dress. 585 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,160 Oh yeah, but in reverse. If she's bringing the black 586 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,040 version of Giselle's white version from her reunion, Yeah, 587 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,880 yeah. And then I think Gina tonight 588 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,160 was wearing a Moogler that hadn't have been a they look 589 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,480 like a Moogler. Yeah, but like Long yeah, things 590 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,040 I. Never thought I'd know about 591 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,360 women's fashion. I know. 592 00:28:06,360 --> 00:28:08,720 Thanks to housewives I know. So. 593 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,280 But yeah, this is a good episode. 594 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,240 I think a perfectly good episode 3. 595 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,520 Like I think it gave it move things forward. 596 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:17,760 It gave us some moments, not moments. 597 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,920 That's some comedy to it. I think that's what Miami's 598 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,440 missing overall is the blend. Miami's Miami so far has just 599 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,000 been like one note. That's what I was saying 600 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,560 yesterday. And it it just seems to be like 601 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,720 a flat note. This has ups and downs and has 602 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,280 oops, this is happening. And then like they're getting 603 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,160 along. They're not getting along. 604 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:37,120 You know, we're. Yeah. 605 00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,080 So I'm liking it. All the notes. 606 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,040 So anything. That we're missing so far. 607 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,040 I'm talking to everybody, you know, we don't even talk. 608 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:48,320 To everybody. Yeah, we should can. 609 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,160 You take her down, Why is she up to? 610 00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:54,360 She's in that headline. With her hooked. 611 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,360 Oh God, I didn't want to. I didn't want to hear about 612 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,280 breaking his penis. No. 613 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,360 And now you've just put that image back inside. 614 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,080 Sorry, Slate is so. Gross. 615 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,920 They're so we didn't even talk about her at all. 616 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:07,920 This is This Is Us talking about her. 617 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,680 So gross that whole conversation like. 618 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,480 And we and we like talking about penis, but we don't want to talk 619 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,720 about his not Slade's penis. Though, Yeah, no thanks. 620 00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,040 I'm looking forward to next week. 621 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,120 If you don't know, I'm not going to spoil it for you, but believe 622 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,320 I know who Tamara brings. Oh yeah, that'll. 623 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Be good. Yes, that'll. 624 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,400 Be so good, So good. All right, well. 625 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,240 Should we talk about this next time? 626 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:31,000 Until next time.