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Welcome to another episode of 
Husbands Watching Housewives. 

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I'm Scott, I'm Jeff, and we just
watched an episode of The Real 

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Housewives of Orange County. 
We sure did. 

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Or in urn Vine, Oh. 
Well, that's. 

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Orange. 
It's Urn County. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, so I'm a big movie theater

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dork. 
Like, that's my other thing. 

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Stay tuned. 
I'm gonna have a whole podcast 

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about our cinema tour. 
It's free. 

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But I noticed one of the 
establishing shots that they 

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showed the Irvine Spectrum, and 
I know for a fact that that 

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theater's been remodeled and 
does not say Edward Cinema's 

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onto the back of it anymore. 
So I was like, wait a minute, 

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this is old footage. 
Well, because the building, said

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Edwards. 
But the sign said Spectrum. 

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Well, no, because that's where 
it's located, but the it's Regal

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Cinemas, so they put a whole 
Regal sign on it now it's no 

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longer, says Edwards. 
So just it has to be old 

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footage, but I'm just a big dork
that way. 

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So before we get on to the show,
how are you? 

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What's new with you? 
Anything going on? 

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But not really just like work 
and stuff. 

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I'm glad that the week is coming
to a close. 

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We have like brunch with friends
this weekend. 

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Yeah. 
Not really just it's been a slow

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week at work, but it will that 
will change as we get to the end

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of the month, which I'm kind of 
glad September is over because 

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I'm just kind of so. 
Rash, we wake you up when 

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September ends. 
No, but there's this great Barry

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Manilow song called When October
Goes. 

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I just love. 
I don't think I know that song. 

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Yeah, it's like, I don't think 
he released it. 

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And there was like, more so in 
the 80s after, you know, he 

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wasn't like, as big. 
Oh, OK. 

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But it's a great song. 
It's beautiful, yeah. 

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It's I something I don't envy 
you about your job is that you 

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have one of those jobs that like
is dependent upon the time of 

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the month. 
Like you have the first the 

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month is busy. 
The end of the month is busy. 

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I even though I work for the 
accounting department, like I 

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don't really have that schedule.
So like I'm not used to this. 

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And also because I work for an 
accounting department where we 

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like are closing the books 
everything like right now I'm 

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working what's today, the 25th. 
So like right now is our end of 

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the month for inventory, but 
like I really won't be doing 

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anything until the middle of 
next month. 

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So it's just really weird. 
So yeah, I've, I've always been 

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because coming from movie 
theaters where like every week 

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was the same thing over and over
again, it's weird to go to a 

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monthly thing. 
And then, yeah, I just, I don't 

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have that mentality of like, oh,
the first month would be busy. 

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Yeah, it's certain things like 
kick in and like, you know, 

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certain times of a year, like, 
Oh my God, you know, invoice 

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this person for the whole year 
when they have all these 

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locations and like, right. 
And then until I forget because 

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which I did like, oh crap, let's
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September, but whatever, it'll 
figure itself out. 

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Well, no one knew about that 
until you No one found out, 

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right? 
And you still got the money. 

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Well, I was saying to my Co 
worker, I'm like I because 

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they've been slow of getting us 
what we need in order to, you 

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know, get our money, whatever. 
And I was like, well, I can't 

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get on my high horse about it 
because I forgot and I should 

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have done this two months ago. 
So really they could take their 

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time because I'm the one who's 
behind. 

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I really hate not being able to 
get on my high horse because I 

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like it up there. 
It's really nice, good air. 

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It is good air up there. 
I do like it. 

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Yeah, so, and one other thing 
I'm really excited about, Well, 

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not well, yes, very excited 
about a good thing. 

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One last good thing about 
September is Mariah's album 

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comes out tomorrow. 
I'm a huge Mariah fan. 

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Mariah Carey. 
I just call it Mariah. 

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They were. 
A first name basis like that, 

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right? 
Pretty much, yeah. 

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It's like her first album in 
seven years, and so it's gonna 

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drop. 
So does that tomorrow. 

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It's dropping on a Friday. 
That's a new thing for the music

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industry. 
Oh, I. 

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Always. 
I want it back on Tuesday. 

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Always Tuesdays and now it's on 
Fridays and so yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I think they find out. 
No, I think it's like from 

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Friday to Friday because then 
you find out how it did the 

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following week and whether it be
singles on the top 100 or the 

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Yeah. 
So very excited. 

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I've heard like some she's 
released some single. 

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She's releasing another single 
tomorrow too with Will Packham. 

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Packham will pack. 
Yeah, yeah, Anderson Pack. 

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Anderson pack. 
Yes, yeah. 

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Will pack. 
I don't know. 

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I don't. 
Know, I don't know. 

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This is how little I know about 
the current music industry. 

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Because he's big. 
Because he's like, yeah, with 

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Bruno Mars. 
Yeah, I want to say Chris and 

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Nick always talk about Anderson 
Pack. 

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Like, yeah, like, he's a big 
producer and big, big, big. 

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Name like he produced, I want to
say he produced that Bruno Mars 

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Lady Gaga song. 
You know that like, wow, Graham.

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Edward I mean, I I have, I have 
even less less up to date 

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musical taste. 
I like weird weird depressing 

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teenage pop. 
Well, yeah, like I said, usually

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for me, aside from like Beyoncé 
or Taylor, I don't really know a

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lot of people. 
Like I think I just found out 

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who Tate McRae was the other on 
the VMAs the other week. 

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I know that Las Culturistas talk
about her all the time. 

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Yeah. 
Like, and Matt Rogers, like just

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love sort of pieces. 
I, I think after we listened to 

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one of their episodes, I looked 
up who Tate McRae was and I was 

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like, I, I don't get. 
It I thought she I for some 

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reason in my head, I was 
confusing her with Morgan 

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Wallen, who is a man, who's a 
country singer, Tate McRae, 

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it's. 
Oh yeah, is have. 

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Some boots and some guns. 
Yeah, no, you're not. 

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You're not wrong with. 
That So I was like, oh, OK. 

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And then she's like, you know, 
doing her old, like, dance in 

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the sand and the cold routine. 
There's two things as as I get 

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older that I like, I try to 
like, I try my best and I don't 

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want to become I'm already a get
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oh, one of them. 
What the hell? 

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What are you doing in the moon? 
This You're not supposed to be 

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here. 
I'm not going to can or Karen 

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out on somebody that like I'm 
not that bad, but the two things

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I'm 1 is like I'm not going to 
be resistant to fashion style. 

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Like just because just because I
have a shirt that's older than 

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some of my friends, like doesn't
mean I can't still buy new 

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trends and like get into it 
because that's what makes as an 

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older person you look old is 
that you're not wearing whatever

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it is that looks new. 
But, you know, it's that balance

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between, you know, not looking, 
dressing your age, basically. 

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Yeah. 
So like dressing respectively 

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for your age but not dressing 
old for your age. 

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So it's like, you know, you can 
embrace a new trend as far as it

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will go for, you know, your body
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thing. 
So I'm trying to do that. 

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I try to do that with that damn 
Ben Sherman stuff that I 

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ordered, but it's never showing 
up. 

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It occurred to me that it's 
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Oh, OK. 
And so things aren't coming to 

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the US from the UK, so. 
Oh, that that thing I got from 

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Greece that's so got lost I had 
to like reorder it. 

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Right, so I don't know, I I'll 
figure it out or I got to go 

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back and check the credit card 
statement. 

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Maybe I was never charged by the
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really wanted those clothes. 
The other thing is musical 

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tastes like I'm trying not to 
just get locked into or locked 

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out of new music. 
Like at least be open minded to 

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it. 
But I'll tell you this, Tate 

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McRae can't do it well. 
I was going to say I'm the exact

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opposite of here. 
I am in my Eddie Bauer shirt 

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that I could wear went to, you 
know, an old person events. 

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I was going to say Country Club,
golf course, whatever. 

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Very Dad going to a picnic. 
And I'm cool with that look. 

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No, and that's true. 
It is Eddie Bauer. 

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Eddie Bauer is made for dads and
like older guys in their 40s. 

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But I think that's a useful look
though. 

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I. 
Mean, I mean it's like how you 

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style it and you know, rent 
pants. 

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I'm wearing shorts, but it it 
does lean lean that and I'm 

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totally cool with that, right. 
If you wear to get a. 

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If you wear that with like cargo
shorts and New Balance, then we 

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have a problem. 
I wouldn't. 

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I don't have New Balance. 
I wouldn't wear cargo shorts. 

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Yeah, like I not that I'm like I
wouldn't wear cargo shorts as 

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the guy who like was wearing 
cargo shorts like 2 years ago. 

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Yeah, yeah, me, I'm talking 
about. 

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No, Yeah, I know who. 
I know who you're talking. 

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About OK And the other thing, 
yeah, with music, I'm again, I'm

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like, I'm very locked in. 
Certain things will will come 

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through, you know, mainly that's
been tailored the last few 

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years. 
But for the most part I'm like, 

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I don't know. 
And even more so, it's things 

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like new things for me are old 
songs that I've never heard 

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before. 
And I'm like, that's a damn good

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disco song. 
What you say? 

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That's the theme song to Angie, 
a sitcom that lasted one season 

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starring the girl from the 
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Fever. 
Sure, Angie Pascal. 

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Or you know what I'm talking. 
About. 

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I don't know. 
Yeah, OK. 

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No, you shouldn't. 
That I wanna. 

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I thought you were talking about
Donna Pascal from. 

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It is Donna. 
Donna Pascal from Out of This 

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World. 
Yes, Sada Pascal had a show 

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called like Angie and I played 
this song for you that one more 

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like one time we're going to 
that open house and like, yeah, 

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it's so great. 
And it was the theme song. 

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And I don't know how like it got
on my radar and Spotify, 

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Spotify, it's just like, this 
guy looks old. 

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Shit. 
So. 

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And it did. 
And I'm like, this is an amazing

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song and I just it's called like
Best of Both Worlds or like 

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something World, but it's called
Race. 

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And then Donna Pescao sings it. 
No, no, no, she's oh, OK, she's 

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on there. 
It was the theme song for for 

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show Angie and it lasted like 
maybe less than a season. 

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And this amazing song came from 
that. 

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I was gonna say Donna Pescao 
sort of has that kind of, well, 

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I don't know, like just very 
campy vibe about her. 

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So I can't imagine her singing a
song and if it was like all I'm 

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singing Angie theme, you know, 
or something like that, you 

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know? 
Is she Shannon Medor? 

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Yes. 
Oh, good call back. 

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Let's bring it back to the show,
are we? 

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Well, no, I was thinking he was 
very ashamed that, you know, hit

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movements. 
But yes. 

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I thought you were like enough 
about us. 

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Like this does is a good segue 
to singing housewives singing. 

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Oh, what does that have to do 
with this show? 

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I don't understand. 
So the theme was singing and 

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daughters. 
The first was like happy time 

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with our daughters and we're 
bonding. 

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And the second act was like, I'm
going to gut you like a fish and

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shoot you with this pellet gun 
that's really bad like a fish. 

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If it works out, that's what 
people do. 

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They got fishes. 
That's true, but it was more 

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like on the sheet with this 
Pelican that. 

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Well, that I'm surprised that 
didn't. 

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That wasn't even a joke that 
they made. 

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I mean, for a second I was like,
tamper's gonna whirl around and 

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it's like Bang, Bang. 
I think any anyone who has gun 

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etiquette knows anything in gun 
and shaped. 

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You don't turn and pointed 
anyone. 

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Yeah, a water gun, barely. 
And that's only if it's 

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fluorescent green and 
transparent and doesn't look 

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like an actual gun. 
That was like looked like a 

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Glock, but. 
Well, yeah, it's not that I know

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what a Glock really looks like, 
but. 

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It's just like a bigger gun. 
I mean, heavy weapon, right? 

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I think we at some point we 
should go shoot a gun. 

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Yeah, like somewhere, just cuz, 
you know, just to. 

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I'd be up for that. 
I've never shot 1. 

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You never shot 1. 
I've shot, you know, actually 

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shooting my dad. 
Like I've shot rifles and I've 

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shot pistols before, but like I 
haven't as an adult. 

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Like I was a little, you know, 
gay 13 year old and he was like,

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wanna go shoot? 
And I'm like sure. 

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No, I was like, honest to God, 
we go to the shooting range and 

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I'd be sitting there. 
I remember I was reading like 

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the history of soap operas, like
while we're at the shooting 

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range, probably somewhere out 
here in the back roads of town. 

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I don't know. 
Which is weird to think that was

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right here in town, but but 
yeah, no, I totally remember 

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reading like all about the 
history of Guiding Light. 

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You told me that, but I I don't 
think you put it together with I

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was just shooting range with my 
dad. 

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I'd take off my ear, the 
earphone, and then what? 

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No, I'm good, I'm good. 
Put it back on and just keep 

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reading reading about the 
powers. 

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This shooting and and what and 
gun combo is going to get us a 

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whole new audience. 
It might. 

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I'm having a little bit of Deja 
vu, including the fact that I 

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mentioned I'm having Deja vu. 
It's a circle. 

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It's a circle. 
It's a full circle, so. 

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I was saying, like the 
daughters, the lovely daughter. 

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Yes. 
So today is National Daughter 

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Day, which worked out well for 
this episode because there was 

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like, let's spend time with our 
daughters. 

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I have to think that that was 
planned. 

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I think that someone was like, 
oh, it's going to air on 

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National Daughter Day. 
They. 

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Usually know when it's going to 
air and then putting well, I 

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guess they but I mean who's 
looking for National Daughters 

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Day? 
I don't know. 

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It's like national tequila today
at. 

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Work, we used to look for 
everything like, oh, today's 

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National Tortilla Day, we better
make a burrito special. 

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I was like, oh God, as though 
someone's like sitting there 

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waiting at Instagram, Like I 
sure hope that restaurant chain 

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has a has a burrito special 
today. 

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I wasn't going to go, but now I 
will. 

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It was just that I just sat at 
those meetings there, fucking 

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hated it. 
It's just like, oh, today's, 

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today's National. 
It'd be like today's national 

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golden retriever day. 
Let's have a let's, we'll have, 

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we have a golden beet salad 
today for National. 

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I'm like, oh, really? 
That's how we're going to do it.

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It was the worst anyway. 
Corporations. 

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Right. 
So yes, it was both your 

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daughter time. 
So basically it was it. 

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Was cute, I did like that. 
Yeah, I was like, you know, 

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Shannon talking to her daughter,
Heather talking to her daughter.

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And then you have the scenes 
with Jen and her daughter, who 

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seems really, you know, mature 
and, you know, lovely and with 

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it and, you know, expressed. 
They don't really. 

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They did a Jen's first season. 
Talk about her kids. 

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Yeah, yeah, talk. 
About her ex-husband, but they 

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don't really go into it and the 
relationship that that he has 

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with the kids. 
It's just, you know, so it's 

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interesting to hear that she out
of some sort of out of this idea

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of like, you know, there's this 
notion and that it's always 

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going to be, you know, my 
parents are the ones to married 

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and to have them my mom getting 
married to somebody else. 

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That's just probably would be 
weird if like all your most of 

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your life, you've just known 
them as this unit and now you 

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have to accept this new unit in 
your mom's life. 

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And you know, she's saying to 
you that I married my best 

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friend, whereas with your dad it
was just like we were parents, 

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which which happens. 
And her daughter is of the age 

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or she could hear something like
that, you know, like 16 or so. 

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Maybe, yeah, maybe a little 
older. 

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You know, I didn't even think 
about that. 

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Like my mom never got remarried,
but also my parents were always 

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divorced as long as I could 
remember. 

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So I don't know how that. 
My dad got remarried. 

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Might, but yeah, but I mean. 
I think it would be interesting 

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if your mom had gotten remarried
and bringing someone else into 

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your life, but she had a. 
But since she had a lot of men 

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in her life, she did have a lot 
of long term boyfriends. 

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Like she's with a guy for like 
10 plus years so for that. 

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They could have gotten. 
There, I mean, I mean, you could

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put a little cry, cry a little 
thing on the screen, say it's 

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his life partner. 
I mean that's you know, but but 

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yeah, no. 
So there were a lot of yeah, it 

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just it was sort of thing that I
think for a lot of people, the 

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whole idea of marriage is so 
official and so, you know, final

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in some ways so that I can see 
that like especially, you know, 

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coming from, I gather there come
from a conservative background, 

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you know, Oklahoma and 
everything and that her 

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daughter, you know, OK, the idea
and that's why she teared up the

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idea of you actually being 
married to someone who's not my 

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dad other than dad, you know, 
clearly threw her for a loop. 

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So it was interesting to see. 
Interesting to you, like Jim was

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saying, you know, I really want 
to be married. 

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I want to have a a partner, I 
want to be a part of a unit. 

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And you know, you could say that
you don't necessarily have to 

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get married for that, but if you
want to, then you should be able

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to. 
Gretchen could say that, but 

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yeah, no, you're. 
You're It's just like we're 

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married, but we're not. 
Absolutely right. 

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And she wants to be married, but
she can't. 

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Backing up the whole Shannon and
her daughter's call. 

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Who was that guy she was 
talking? 

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Some random gay OK. 
So that was a random gay yes 

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case for half a second I was 
watching and I was like, is this

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some guy that she's seeing? 
And then if so, that's a lot of 

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balls to be like. 
And I brought magnums, Mrs. 

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Bedor. 
This is like I was like. 

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That's why Shannon was like, I 
don't need to hear that. 

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Right. 
But I mean, I guess it's more 

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palatable for does Shannon do 
this? 

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A. 
Little yes, she's I was like. 

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I don't have to point. 
You're gonna have to point. 

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This out all the time or now 
I'll just I'll live like that I 

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don't. 
Just notice. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
I got a little confused about 

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that because at first I thought 
it was just some guy that she 

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was kind of casually dating. 
And then they were just like, 

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oh, see, I'm taking care of your
daughter, huh. 

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Well. 
Because they were very, they 

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were like Sophie's friend, blah 
blah, blah, right. 

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So they are very quick to be 
like, no, this is probably a 

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homosexual. 
He did, yeah. 

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I mean, he had that sort of like
flirting with someones mom. 

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Homosexuality. 
But both the value of this. 

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Yeah, it's the only things you 
can get away with. 

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So then it was them, the two of 
them. 

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And Sophia. 
And Gretchen, Sophia. 

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Woah. 
And Tamara. 

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And Tamara. 
Did Heather not have a Heather 

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called her daughter called her 
daughter in. 

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Paris the cat. 
Yeah, yeah, sorry. 

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Sophia and Tamara, they would go
to the music school in LA. 

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In LA, yes. 
I love flashbacks to little 

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Sophia. 
Oh yes, I like she's no Gia 

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Judice, I'll tell you. 
I mean, that song that she's 

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saying was not memorable. 
She's not waking up in the 

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morning, She's not not waking up
in the morning. 

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Not going to be a hit. 
Single, no, but I like yeah, 

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like their little relationship. 
And I think consumers said 

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before, Sophie has a lot of 
anxiety. 

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So for her to be considering 
moving away from home and just 

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being seen to be really OK with 
it, that's pretty, you know, 

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it's yeah, yeah. 
She's made a lot of stuff 

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forward. 
Yes, for sure. 

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Yeah, kind of nice. 
We have to segue because in and 

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the scene, Sophia's blonde and 
then and it's a confessional and

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she has like short dark hair and
it's like, whoa, OK, that's a 

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switch. 
And then we have to delicately 

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talk about Tamara's boobs. 
Confessional look. 

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You mean Tamara's boobs? 
Yeah. 

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Not necessarily. 
Because we don't talk about 

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looks. 
So let's. 

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We don't, yeah. 
It's not her boobs, it's just 

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more the structure in the 
necklace. 

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Like, yeah. 
And necklace draws attention to 

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the boobs. 
Basically she had her boobs done

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because there was an issue with 
the boobs and so she like got 

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like AI think a very small. 
A medical issue like the the the

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musculature wasn't where it was 
supposed to be. 

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Yes, and like where the implant 
what or like whatever, right. 

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So there's a whole big thing and
she didn't tell anybody. 

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And then she was saying this on 
2 TS that, you know, she was 

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shooting this confessional and 
the producer was like, obviously

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it was like you had your boobs 
done again, right. 

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And Tamara hadn't told Sophia 
and since Sophia found out that 

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way. 
But yes, they are very 

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noticeable because it's one of 
the the classic, I'm wearing a 

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blazer without a shirt look that
housewives love to do. 

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Yeah, and it's like, OK, this is
a lot of your boob. 

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I think that thing that's, I 
don't know, like this is going 

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to be I'm not this isn't any 
like I don't know, this isn't a 

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rag on Tamara at all. 
I think this is just more of a 

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comment on aging, I think in 
that I think the way that her 

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breasts are, there's like a 
weird crease somewhere that like

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I, I don't know if that's made 
by the, IT has to be by the fact

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that they're fake boobs and so 
like. 

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Freshly done. 
Freshly done. 

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So it just looks like they're 
there's like boning in her body 

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that shouldn't be there, but 
like it definitely looks. 

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I think maybe they weren't 
settled. 

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Yeah, you know, because like she
just had it done so recently. 

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But at the same time, like, you 
know, there's only so you're 

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only going to look so good at 
even at any age. 

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Also too, it's like she wasn't 
wearing a bra so maybe like they

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were taped and pushed up in a in
a way. 

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Something weird? 
Yeah, it was it, It's, it wasn't

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the best. 
It's not the most attractive. 

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No, the color's great and her 
hair and makeup are green. 

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Yeah, but it's like in some in 
some moments, they're shooting 

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her from like neck up and I. 
Was like, yeah, keep doing that.

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Yeah, keep doing that. 
And I was. 

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Wondering because I'm just like,
yeah, as much as a gay man can. 

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Just like my eyes are drawn to 
her boobies. 

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But. 
I'm Vicki. 

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So sorry, thank you. 
We listen to Vicki's part of 

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Vicki's podcast, Lexus, and she 
didn't say. 

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Yes, after blocking smack about 
Vicki's podcast, we listened to 

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Vicki's podcast. 
It was fine. 

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It was fine. 
I didn't know Christian was 

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southern. 
That southern, especially. 

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Y'all. 
While we're talking about it, 

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Jen and her breast situation, 
she clearly has implants as 

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well. 
And I think she's lost a lot of 

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weight, but naturally that her 
breasts are hanging on her in a 

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way that she's like having a 
weird concave situation and her 

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cleavage. 
And it's something that I never 

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really as a gay man, I don't 
really look at breasts. 

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So I don't really consider like,
because, and also a gay man like

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who grew up in the nineties, 80s
and 90s, like I'm used to the 

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whole idea of like, oh, fake 
tits are great, you know, and 

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everyone was like always into 
like big giant fake breasts. 

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And so you don't really think 
about what happens to big giant 

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breasts as someone's body 
changes. 

444
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,320
Well, it's like, because you 
have this notion that you know, 

445
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,920
they're going to just stay the 
same because they are, they're 

446
00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:23,200
not real. 
So they're not going to age with

447
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,440
you, but like the skin around 
you, you know, a skin around the

448
00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,880
area, right, right. 
It's just, I don't know all the 

449
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,360
facts, but like, it doesn't make
sense that as your body changes 

450
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:34,160
as you get older, right? 
You you know nothing holds up, 

451
00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:36,360
but even a facelift isn't going 
to hold up forever. 

452
00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:38,000
Right. 
But I think it's just, it's that

453
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,520
sort of thing where you think, I
think as someone who's never had

454
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,960
it, you know, and, and you know,
fate, plastic surgery or 

455
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,880
anything like that, like you, 
you think, oh, well, you're 

456
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,840
going to send all this money to 
have this done. 

457
00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,280
It's going to make you perfect 
and it'll last forever. 

458
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,960
And then it doesn't. 
So that if you don't really 

459
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:56,160
think about that, and I'm sure 
what we're talking about now, 

460
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,440
like I feel like we're just like
doze in the wood, just walking 

461
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:02,880
out and like realizing something
that I'm sure half the people in

462
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:06,080
the world who, who goes through 
Plastic street, they like, yeah,

463
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,000
no shit. 
Or they themselves are like, 

464
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,760
yeah, that was the drawback. 
Like I too thought I'd be 

465
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,880
perfect forever. 
And then I was like, wait, I got

466
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,440
to do this again in 10 years. 
Like I could barely afford it 

467
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,080
the first time. 
Well, yeah, it's like you got to

468
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:21,000
get like, you know, going for a 
checkup every 10 years or so 

469
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,000
when they have boobs. 
It's just things you don't think

470
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,160
of because you think like, oh, 
it's going to last forever 

471
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,400
because, but it's not, yeah. 
No, I mean, I was going to, I 

472
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,920
was going to have that butt 
implant, but not anymore. 

473
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:33,880
The BBL. 
Yeah, I just definitely going to

474
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,480
do it. 
But some Larsa butt, yeah. 

475
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,320
But no. 
Don't need it, no. 

476
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,360
Don't need all that maintenance.
No, it's looking at things I 

477
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:43,360
don't want. 
It's a personal scene with 

478
00:22:43,360 --> 00:22:46,520
Gretchen Slade. 
Yeah, you are a friend of. 

479
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,480
I know they're trying to 
establish or, you know, go back 

480
00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,960
off of what she revealed, what 
they both revealed last week. 

481
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,280
But it was so set up. 
And obviously these, whenever 

482
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,000
they had these conversations 
with like husbands or life 

483
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:04,000
partners and the wives or 
friends, it's all set up. 

484
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,840
Like, what did you do last 
night? 

485
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:10,360
But they have an agenda, plain 
and simple. 

486
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,680
And she wanted him to say that. 
He wanted to say that. 

487
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,800
The one honest thing he says in 
this entire conversation is that

488
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,440
he's still bitter about Tamra. 
Well, no shit. 

489
00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:22,760
Yeah, that's. 
Quite obvious you are, I do. 

490
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:27,760
Believe that the whole whatever 
they wanted to have happen, I 

491
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,920
think that it got away from 
Gretchen. 

492
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,120
I think Gretchen didn't want it 
to be as escalated as it got 

493
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,800
because I think Gretchen shows a
lot of like, I think she's 

494
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,320
genuinely embarrassed that like 
she that it got there. 

495
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,320
I don't think that like I think 
she tried to get, she knew it 

496
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,360
was going to get towards there. 
I think she was hoping that it 

497
00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,680
would just be like, we're going 
to go ahead and insinuate 

498
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,520
something happened, but we're 
not going to go ahead and say 

499
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,160
that something happened. 
And I think I. 

500
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:56,600
Don't know. 
She was really quick to say 

501
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,800
affair. 
She was very quick to say that. 

502
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,760
I know, but that's what I think.
I think maybe she was like, oh, 

503
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,320
she had an affair and she's 
going to leave it at that and be

504
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,840
like, well, I'm not going to say
anything more. 

505
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,120
And then Slade went ahead and 
was like, and then they were 

506
00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:11,760
recording and Rodenbaugh. 
He he put too much on it right 

507
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,400
that it was, but they were 
eventually going to ask the 

508
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,000
details of like, how do you know
she had an affair? 

509
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,760
And the only reason you would 
know that is because you 

510
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,840
allegedly heard this audio of 
her screwing this guy because 

511
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:26,320
they were messing around in the 
studio and like, oh, the mic's 

512
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:27,280
still on. 
Oh my God. 

513
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,760
I. 
Do like that when it gets retold

514
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,360
the Tamara it's told as though 
and I I never thought that this 

515
00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,160
is the case and correct me if 
you did. 

516
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:40,960
I don't think they made it seem 
like Slade has a recording of 

517
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:44,760
them screwing. 
Which no, because he never said 

518
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,120
he always like I heard it. 
I don't have a recording. 

519
00:24:47,120 --> 00:24:49,360
He made that very clear. 
But it make it makes it seem 

520
00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:52,240
like when they retell Tamara 
that like he has a copy of it 

521
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,920
listens to right regularly. 
That's what that's on Emily 

522
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,640
because she didn't convey this 
story right. 

523
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,200
Girls, you gotta. 
There's also too. 

524
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,120
She'd been drinking as well, so 
she's in all the details. 

525
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:02,760
But still really creepy to think
that he's just like, oh, and I 

526
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,760
kept this because oh like. 
Listen to it. 

527
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:08,240
Yeah, No, I do think you're like
it got bigger than it was, but 

528
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,400
like she has been Tamara. 
Yeah, as pissed Gretchen off for

529
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,640
so long and she's been ready to 
reveal this because Tamra 

530
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:21,960
exposed her affair when Gretchen
was with her fiance Jeff. 

531
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,240
Yeah. 
And quickly that's how Gretchen 

532
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,680
got so when towards the end she 
got so pissed off when she 

533
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,240
started talking about that. 
And you could tell if that's the

534
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,960
motivator. 
For like the that's when she 

535
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,000
like when she lost her cool and 
I think that's the real you. 

536
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,720
So yeah, I don't know. 
It's just we'll, we'll get more 

537
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,680
to it at the end, but it's just,
oh, I didn't need to see them, 

538
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,040
the scene of them and like 
talking about this crap. 

539
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:51,240
The one thing and I don't again,
I, I don't have AI have barely a

540
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,160
pot to piss in with our life, 
but I do like to see Gretchen 

541
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,520
and Slade at home because their 
house is very small compared to 

542
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,240
to everyone else's. 
And it's fine. 

543
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,480
It's nothing wrong with it. 
I'm they have a nice life for 

544
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,960
themselves. 
But like, you know, well, we, 

545
00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:11,680
you know, it looks like they 
have rooms like they don't have.

546
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,440
When you're a single income 
household. 

547
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,520
But they don't have like, formal
living room, formal dining room.

548
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,720
They have like all the rooms you
need to live in a house. 

549
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,280
They have, you know, family 
room, eating area, kitchen. 

550
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,560
It's not like they live in this 
lavish place like, you know, 

551
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,240
Emily does. 
Or even Emily's house by 

552
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,840
comparison, which is pretty 
normal, is still much larger. 

553
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,960
Or Heather's, I think as we were
talking about Heather. 

554
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:34,680
'S well, no, no. 
Heather, of course, lives in a 

555
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:35,800
giant. 
Yeah, yes, that's what I'm 

556
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:36,280
saying. 
Like but. 

557
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,120
I'm saying like even people who 
live in a quote UN quote modest 

558
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:42,000
house, even Gina's place looks 
bigger than Gretchen's. 

559
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,600
So that's, you know, it's 
interesting to see. 

560
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,400
The thing I didn't like is that 
they have a stupid little word 

561
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,320
art by the staircase. 
It says like wifey and husby or 

562
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,560
something like that. 
You are not a wifey. 

563
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,760
You've never been a wifey. 
Well, you never will be a wifey.

564
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:57,600
To Slade. 
No, she's not. 

565
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,280
She's never been married. 
She was only engaged and he 

566
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,320
died. 
Okay, yes, but off of Gretchen, 

567
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,160
I don't really don't want to. 
Talk we're gonna have to get 

568
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,080
back to unfortunately later on. 
No, let's. 

569
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,720
Stop this episode right now, no 
more Gretchen. 

570
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,400
Well, The thing is, and I don't 
know if we need should we bleep 

571
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:15,240
this about who the boy band 
singer. 

572
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,640
Feel like everyone on the 
Internet's saying it. 

573
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,840
Yeah. 
And we can just. 

574
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,280
Allegedly what the. 
Internet's saying. 

575
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,800
Is that the guy that she that 
Terma allegedly had the affair 

576
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,680
with was Jeff Timmons from 1983?
And rewinding it every time they

577
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,360
blur their mouth. 
They say it fast enough like you

578
00:27:34,360 --> 00:27:37,640
could say Jeff Timmons. 
And also the fact that every 

579
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,320
time they say it, that Jeff 
Timmons and it just seems like 

580
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,720
the cadence is right. 
Were they really afraid that 

581
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:43,920
Jeff Timmons was going to suit 
them? 

582
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,720
Well, I think, I think that's 
bleeped out. 

583
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:50,240
I think it's bleeped out more 
for he's not involved in this. 

584
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,120
He's not asking to be involved 
in this, right? 

585
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:55,520
It's more more of a courtesy. 
He's a public figure of sorts, 

586
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,600
you know. 
Like, does she even was it even 

587
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:02,560
this guy that like, 'cause not 
to get skipped too out of too 

588
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,120
far ahead. 
But like Tamara says, you know, 

589
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,440
I recorded the song. 
It was, it was being funny. 

590
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:12,000
I know that I knew this boy band
guy in my neighborhood and so, 

591
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,680
you know, but whatever. 
But like it never got released. 

592
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,880
I don't have an audio permit, 
you know, whatever. 

593
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,520
The fact that others were like 
saying it, and Tamara didn't 

594
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,680
seem to deny that she knew this 
person. 

595
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,680
Yes. 
And so whatever. 

596
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,920
Because she's something to hide.
Because she's saying she didn't 

597
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:28,880
have an affair. 
Right. 

598
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,760
And even if she. 
But she was very quick to say 

599
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,640
when I was presented, I was 
working it with with Simon. 

600
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,520
Simon I was with Eddie, which 
can still be an affair if she's 

601
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:39,680
even though they weren't 
married. 

602
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:44,800
If she it could be said that she
was cheating on Eddie with this 

603
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,800
dude. 
So we're bouncing all around and

604
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,800
we're like, like, that is 
different for us. 

605
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:53,640
But here's the thing. 
What does it matter? 

606
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:58,240
Does why does Gretchen care? 
Why does anyone care even if 

607
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:04,560
even if Tamara screwed half of 
Orange County, what business of 

608
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,080
anyone's is it so? 
And the only reason I get to it 

609
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,040
is that like it's some sort of 
moral high ground when you have 

610
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:14,920
this whole like especially if 
you're religious, it's. 

611
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,840
Not that. 
I know, but like, is it though 

612
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,480
where it's like, oh, you're not 
living a Christian life? 

613
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:23,240
It's not that at all. 
It's all about payback for for 

614
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,480
Tamra saying that Gretchen was 
having an affair. 

615
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,200
It has nothing to do with 
Gretchen's current situation and

616
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,840
how she views Tamra. 
It's more so you did this to me.

617
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,400
You made-up all these allegedly 
made have all these lies about 

618
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,040
me, and now I'm going to do the 
same to you because I have all 

619
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,960
this information because people 
send the all these things. 

620
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:44,240
News flash, people send 
housewives a bunch of stuff in 

621
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,960
DMS, on Twitter, whatever, 
trying to get onto the show. 

622
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,040
So this idea of like you're not 
special, Tamara could say 

623
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,760
everyone sends people send me 
something about Shannon, about 

624
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,200
Heather, about Gina. 
You decide what you use or not, 

625
00:29:58,200 --> 00:29:58,600
right? 
Right. 

626
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,640
So she's chosen. 
And this whole idea of like you 

627
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,560
don't want it's so mirrors marks
of like, you don't want to know 

628
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,600
what I know about you. 
I could just expose her right 

629
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:09,600
here and take you down. 
That's why like Tamara's like, 

630
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,160
go ahead and say it then. 
Yes. 

631
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,600
And then even if they're 
confessional, go ahead and say 

632
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,120
it and she doesn't say it right 
because she has nothing. 

633
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:18,000
The the moment it's passed a 
little bit because I didn't want

634
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,640
to interrupt you. 
But what Tamara should have said

635
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,440
was everyone sends things to 
Katie and. 

636
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,480
Then Katie pops up. 
You're right. 

637
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:27,920
Bang Bang. 
Did someone say my name? 

638
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,120
Someone name Someone name. 
That would have been really good

639
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,240
if she'd be like, well, people 
send things to Katie and look 

640
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,720
where it gets her. 
You know, everybody was like the

641
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,640
whole prank of, you know, when 
they rolled up Katie and stuff. 

642
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,000
Oh, hey, guys. 
It was like roll the window, 

643
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,200
roll the window. 
Oh God. 

644
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,480
So lame. 
So yeah, I mean, I guess we can 

645
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,160
back up to them going to the 
self-defense Club. 

646
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,880
Well, as we talk about Tamara 
and Eddie, oh, cuz there's the 

647
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,000
Tamara Eddie scene versus the 
Gretchen and Slade scene. 

648
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,280
And yeah, but like, I like it. 
Eddie was like Sharon's time, 

649
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,560
like Gretchen's evil, like 
Shannon's just a little 

650
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,080
wackadoo. 
Gretchen will steal your soul 

651
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,480
like. 
Yeah, he's just like, well, 

652
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:16,680
whatever, you know? 
But also, like, I think Tamara 

653
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,960
and Shannon actually have been 
friends and probably, you know, 

654
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,560
besides, you know as much. 
As many years. 

655
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,280
As much as we say that a lot of 
these women are friends only on 

656
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,680
the show, and evidently like a 
lot of their friendship was for 

657
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,720
the show, they clearly have 
spent time off the show 

658
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,560
together. 
Maybe not as much as like real 

659
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,080
friends would do, they weren't 
like hanging out all the time. 

660
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,960
But I. 
Think they were like as Tamara's

661
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:42,880
is that they were talking all 
the time and that's why I was a 

662
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:47,320
bit draining, you know whatever,
don't talk about that because 

663
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,120
it's all like oh, Tamara's the 
bad one as if Shannon is like 

664
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:54,040
this Angel but whatever well. 
Shannon's recovering. 

665
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,920
She's licking her wounds, 
getting her strength back. 

666
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,480
Why? 
She's doing lick your gabs. 

667
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,360
Look at her wounds. 
Like a cat, she's like. 

668
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,920
Anyways, I'm not trying to like,
you know, throw whatever at 

669
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,640
Shannon, but it's just it's so 
it's not actually no, what we 

670
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,200
should talk about before we get 
into the freaking. 

671
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,320
Self-defense class, yeah, is. 
Actually, this was the ultimate 

672
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,320
defense class. 
Yeah. 

673
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:21,120
See, when Gina said I don't, 
Shannon was making this as she 

674
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,600
finally got to a mountain out of
a molehill. 

675
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,040
You mean a mole out of a 
mountain hill or a mountain set 

676
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,800
of a mountain side? 
And like any Yosemite, I don't 

677
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,320
know, like Shannon was making it
seem as if Tamara's like your 

678
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,760
father's an alcoholic. 
He specs back. 

679
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,560
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Engineer's like it didn't happen

680
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,320
like that. 
And I think she wasn't trying 

681
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,680
to. 
She wasn't going after you. 

682
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,840
But Shannon wouldn't hear it. 
And when Shannon said if anyone 

683
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,640
else said that, I would've been 
pissed to lies. 

684
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:49,560
Yeah, yeah. 
If Shannon said it, if Shannon 

685
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:52,440
said it, Nope. 
He'd be totally like, guys, no, 

686
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,840
that's not how it happened. 
Shannon was thinking, had Katie 

687
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,880
said that, I would have done the
same thing because that's. 

688
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Probably had Katie breathed air,
Shannon would have lost her her 

689
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,600
mind. 
You'd. 

690
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,200
Say it, I already swore a lot. 
No, I say shit all the time. 

691
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,680
I know every episode, every 
episode lately we've just been 

692
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,320
marking explicit. 
I'm just not. 

693
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,920
I'm over it. 
Yeah, I don't know, like last 

694
00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,320
episode when I was like dropping
too many F bombs. 

695
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,960
It's like I don't need to. 
That's true. 

696
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:18,240
Yeah. 
You and your gutter mouth. 

697
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,480
So gutter. 
So can we talk about the whole 

698
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,640
self-defense thing? 
I'm going to 1st off the fact 

699
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,120
that their logo flash so so 
heavily on the camera every 

700
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,320
every cutscene. 
A lot of. 

701
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,840
Branding, a lot of branding. 
Clearly they promise these 

702
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,480
people let us do this and we 
will advertise the F out of you.

703
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,400
But just in general, that whole 
thing just felt so Orange 

704
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:45,240
County, like Orange Curtain 
Orange County, like it was very 

705
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,400
it's felt very conservative in 
the way that like we're going to

706
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:51,520
do a self-defense class and just
kind of the the logo, the font, 

707
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,760
everything about that insides 
just look like women. 

708
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,400
You should be afraid. 
We're going to go ahead because 

709
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,320
you're right, you're meek. 
You're meek women, you have to 

710
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:01,760
learn how to take care of 
yourself. 

711
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,520
It's not even like you're meek, 
it's just the world is so scary 

712
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,240
and bad that you need to write 
yourself. 

713
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:07,320
Right. 
It wasn't like. 

714
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,040
Like scary and bad. 
Not that I'm saying things can't

715
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,400
bad can't happen everywhere, but
right, Scary and bad isn't 

716
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,639
really going to come to certain 
parts of Orange County. 

717
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:17,080
Well, no, I'm not saying that I 
feel the way Heather reacted to 

718
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,880
a lot of it. 
Like you're like, you know, 

719
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,920
honey, don't, don't think your 
money's gonna solve everything 

720
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,400
right down to it. 
I pray nothing, you know, 

721
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,040
happens. 
But, you know, just kind of 

722
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,440
tempting fate with that or like,
oh, my money will take care of 

723
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:30,239
me. 
You're my 12. 

724
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,000
I wouldn't say anything. 
I would never. 

725
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:37,080
But what I'm like, I just feel 
like on other franchises, if 

726
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,480
they did it like in New York, 
didn't they do a self-defense? 

727
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,280
They did the boxing and on. 
Right, Leah or the. 

728
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,679
Boxer and everything. 
And Leah. 

729
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:45,760
Right? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

730
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,560
They would always do it more of 
a women's empowerment thing and 

731
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,760
it. 
But like this didn't seem like 

732
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,880
women's empowerment at all. 
Like even the housewives didn't 

733
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:55,800
phrase it really like that. 
Yeah. 

734
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:59,680
It was more for like, you know, 
the world's a scary place in 

735
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,320
which the world is a scary 
place. 

736
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,800
I'm not denying that. 
But to like really lean in on 

737
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,360
the fear side of things was just
like really a different feeling 

738
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,280
for me. 
I mean, even like just the whole

739
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,600
the setup of like, let's test 
how you're going to react to the

740
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,880
situation. 
That's just really weird to do 

741
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,400
that to somebody. 
You know, you really could have 

742
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:20,160
scared someone shitless in that 
moment. 

743
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,480
But also too, and not to blame 
anyway, but like roll up your 

744
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,520
window. 
My window is never down. 

745
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:31,920
My oh so yeah. 
Windows are never down. 

746
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,520
Rolled up their windows down. 
So it makes me wonder if they 

747
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,760
like rolled like if the driver 
rolled them down and like and 

748
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,760
locked. 
Unlocked it. 

749
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,160
Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah, I. 

750
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,720
Put on the child safety lock so 
no one opened that door and like

751
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,280
hit the guy with it. 
I just love that. 

752
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,960
Damn, was like, take Gina, Yeah.
I mean, the fact that they, she 

753
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,920
reacted so quickly, just like 
jumped over Gina, like, yeah, I 

754
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,400
mean. 
Camera's not playing, no. 

755
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,160
No. 
And I like that Shannon, like 

756
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,120
was kind of reacting. 
I was like, wait, this is for 

757
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,280
the show. 
Like her idea of like and then I

758
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,480
kick him and he kicks my he 
grabs my leg and pulls me out 

759
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,240
the window. 
I'm like, what could happen? 

760
00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:09,160
And it was fun to watch. 
But yeah, if, if you ever, if 

761
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,200
you ever do that to me, if. 
You ever do that to me? 

762
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,520
I don't like surprises, period. 
I don't want a surprise party. 

763
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,520
I don't want a surprise fake 
mother carjacking. 

764
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:17,800
Yeah. 
Can you imagine? 

765
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,440
Can we talk about Gretchen's 
stupid Lara Croft? 

766
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,400
Look at how oh I accidentally 
went for this. 

767
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:28,120
That parade was so bad, so 
easily detached. 

768
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,640
Let's pretend, let's pretend for
a moment that she said for one 

769
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,800
second, I'm doing a self-defense
class. 

770
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,600
I need an outfit. 
Hey, I'm going to go to my 

771
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,680
closet and get this full. 
I'm. 

772
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:41,160
Going to say say hey Siri. 
I'm going to go to my closet. 

773
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,600
This this bodysuit. 
OK, All right. 

774
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,560
Yeah, all right. 
And then I'm going to put on 

775
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,320
this holster. 
Oh, I look kind of like Laura 

776
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,160
Croft. 
Do I have a giant ass braid 

777
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,600
somewhere that looks like the 
Lara Croft braid? 

778
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,360
Hey glam team. 
Yeah, like how did you 

779
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,800
accidentally do get the fuck out
of here? 

780
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,680
No one falls into that braid. 
Yeah, like no the. 

781
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,880
Chainmail kind of around it, 
yeah. 

782
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,080
No, no, no, no. 
That was so bad. 

783
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,520
I do like the Tamara was like, 
well, I, you know what could be 

784
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:14,840
happening. 
I'm sure there's a costume 

785
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,440
involved and. 
Or I've always said it's like 

786
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:18,920
Lara Croft. 
Amazon. 

787
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:21,640
Yeah, Croft. 
I Croft. 

788
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,240
Yes. 
Amazon, I wasn't getting the I 

789
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:27,120
wasn't sure if she was saying 
like Amazonian Laura Croft or 

790
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,360
like. 
No Amazon like this is the cheap

791
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,280
version of Angela. 
Shine or Shane or whatever how 

792
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,480
you say Shane. 
Shane. 

793
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,400
Yeah, it would have been that. 
Amazon. 

794
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,280
It was costume. 
It was, it was a little, it was 

795
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:40,640
a little, it was a little 
spirit. 

796
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,000
Yeah, I would have said spirit 
Halloween. 

797
00:37:43,720 --> 00:37:47,680
I would love to see Bronwyn on 
Salt Lake do a Lara Croft. 

798
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,120
You know, like because Bronwyn 
wouldn't do like a full on 

799
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,800
costume, she would do like 
costume adjacent it. 

800
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:57,520
Would be a better like it it. 
It was a little cheap. 

801
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:58,720
It was a. 
It was a. 

802
00:37:58,720 --> 00:38:00,240
She looked great. 
I mean if. 

803
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,480
No, her body is great. 
Yeah, this is the outfit and the

804
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:04,680
braid. 
And it was. 

805
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,920
It was the well, yeah, the poof 
of it. 

806
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:11,880
It wasn't like like Laura Croft 
is like slicked back with the 

807
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,600
hair, but she had like a poof. 
Like I don't even know she. 

808
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,400
Can't get that one out from that
stupid pink look where she has 

809
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,720
well. 
She also just loves like that 

810
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:22,680
wisp. 
She can never let go of that 

811
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,600
wisp. 
And she loves like it's. 

812
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,600
Yeah, she's constantly touching 
her hair. 

813
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,120
Watch it you'll you'll never be 
able to Unsee it. 

814
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,480
How much Gretchen will touch 
that hair anyways? 

815
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,400
Keep my eye. 
Yeah, so they get there. 

816
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:41,680
They do split into teams. 
Elf defense Elbow elbow on gun. 

817
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:46,000
Cover cover your 12 Shannon. 
You know as much as I thought 

818
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,800
for immediately Shannon would be
like no, I'm not doing this. 

819
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:49,960
I'm going to go sit over here. 
She. 

820
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,760
Got really into it. 
She got really doing. 

821
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,720
She does. 
I think in a lot of those 

822
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,200
activities get into it. 
I always expect her to be more 

823
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,840
like kind of Ramona in a lot of 
those regards where she's like, 

824
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,040
I'm whatever and like kind of 
half assing it, right. 

825
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,080
But she gets into it and I, I 
was, I was actually kind of a 

826
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,800
little proud of her. 
I think, yeah. 

827
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,200
Had it been like wall climbing 
like she thought it was? 

828
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,560
She really probably like, OK, 
I'll climb this wall, right? 

829
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,880
You know, she does it. 
I think maybe she's probably got

830
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,200
a lot of guff about like weaving
scene and going to video village

831
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,560
so much last year. 
I always think about the first 

832
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:24,320
year we watched OC when she like
they went scuba diving or 

833
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,600
whatever snorkeling and she had 
like fall backwards off the 

834
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:27,880
boat. 
Oh yeah. 

835
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,600
Her arm up and everything. 
Right, good with that. 

836
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,280
I just remember, like, she's a 
good sport when it comes to 

837
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,280
these little activities, and it 
made it, it's surprising to me. 

838
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,760
Like I I figured she'd just be 
someone to be like, oh, I'm not 

839
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,160
doing that. 
But, you know, she did. 

840
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:42,960
It was good. 
Who knows? 

841
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:48,960
Yeah, I liked it. 
So finally, you know, producers 

842
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,160
like go Emily, go, right? 
And she tells Gretch or tells 

843
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,560
Tamara the whole story about 
what Gretchen was was saying. 

844
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,840
And I feel like at first 
Tamara's like this shit again. 

845
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,960
And then she's like really 
started thinking about it and 

846
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,680
was like, Nope, not today, not 
today. 

847
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:11,120
And then actually, let's back up
a second, Emily. 

848
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,880
The best thing that Emily said 
in that scene was everything 

849
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,880
that Gretchen told us was 
unprovoked. 

850
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,560
And she accuses Tamara bringing 
up bullshit when she is sitting 

851
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,120
here bringing up bullshit 
unprovoked and giving all the 

852
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,440
the grimy details and like 
couldn't wait for it. 

853
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:31,920
And then you cut to Jen. 
Oh, and her confessional saying,

854
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,080
you know, I've done Gretchen for
a bit of time now and I don't 

855
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,680
last thing she wants to do is 
talk about Tamara. 

856
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:42,520
Lies, lies, lies. 
Cue the the lies, the lies, the 

857
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:47,480
lies of of I had to fly my head.
I'm tired. 

858
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,440
I. 
Don't know what you're talking 

859
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:50,240
about. 
Candy. 

860
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:51,200
That's her. 
That's her. 

861
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,040
Me. 
And the lies. 

862
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:58,120
Lies, lies. 
Jen, Why would you set up such 

863
00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,640
an obvious lie? 
Do you? 

864
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,440
Want to do that again so we can 
actually like, cut things out? 

865
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:09,320
Yes, okay, okay, again, take 2. 
The lies, the lies, the lies. 

866
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:13,480
Obviously Gretchen has told you 
many a thing about Tamra. 

867
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:18,680
You have talked about Tamra. 
You can like like got together 

868
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,480
to conspire against Tamra. 
I can't imagine there's a time 

869
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,040
where Gretchen and Jen have sat 
down together and. 

870
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,520
Not talked about Tamra. 
Your whole initial meeting was 

871
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:31,040
you said you reached out to 
Gretchen and said Tamra SOS and 

872
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,040
she got on the phone with you 
right away. 

873
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,760
Your whole relationship has been
built on hating Tamra, right? 

874
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:38,840
Like, why do you think making 
us? 

875
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,440
Why are you gaslighting me? 
Do you? 

876
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,480
Think they're at dinner and 
they're like Tamara, Tamara, 

877
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,200
blah blah blah blah that I call.
Hmm. 

878
00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:49,600
OK, so what's new with you? 
Nothing but you know, Tamara 

879
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,280
said. 
This. 

880
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,160
That's exactly exactly. 
Exactly. 

881
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,360
Exactly. 
They have nothing else, No. 

882
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,760
And if they do, I'd love to know
about it. 

883
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:59,840
I'd like to hear about it. 
But this deep friendship like. 

884
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:02,760
This deep friendship of just 
this year. 

885
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,520
That sounds a foursome that I 
was like don't want to imagine 

886
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,920
with the with Ryan and no, not, 
no, just like them sitting 

887
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,560
together because they all hate 
Tamara so much. 

888
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,440
Freaking Ryan was saying when he
said, you know, I admire Shannon

889
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,400
that, you know, she's setting 
boundaries with Tamara and I 

890
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,080
couldn't do it. 
I just like peaced out, dude. 

891
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,800
Tamara's not looking for you. 
Tamara's not trying to like 

892
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,800
whatever. 
Tamara doesn't know you exist 

893
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,800
anymore. 
That's the fun thing about all 

894
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,000
this. 
Is it like, I mean, even when 

895
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,800
they're filming, you know, I 
can't imagine that Tamara's or 

896
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:38,000
anyone. 
I can't imagine Tamara, Heather,

897
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,280
Gina, Emily are going home being
like, oh, I wonder what they're 

898
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,640
talking about. 
But I get the feeling Gretchen 

899
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,720
and Jen are kind of having that 
conversation. 

900
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,280
Because what else do they have? 
A show that. 

901
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,760
Yeah. 
I mean, at least Jen has her 

902
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:52,360
kids and like they're. 
Right. 

903
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,960
No, I think a lot of, I mean, 
yes, they obviously have like 

904
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,520
children in like lives, but I'm 
saying like really what? 

905
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,480
When I say that, I mean at least
Jen is like feet her kids are 

906
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,880
getting featured on the show and
like they have storylines and 

907
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,480
like that's being part of her 
life on the show as well. 

908
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,400
Whereas Gretchen being a friend 
of we get to see her daughter 

909
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,400
yesterday getting put on a lot 
of sunscreen. 

910
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,880
When you're that blonde, you 
must need a lot of. 

911
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,440
Sunscreen. 
A lot of sunscreen you'd catch 

912
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,200
on fire. 
Yeah, but yeah, so I mean, it's 

913
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,280
good. 
I, I like to see it and I'm, you

914
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,240
know, glad we're meeting other 
parts of Jen's family other than

915
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:32,560
and even though we met them. 
Before no it is yes boy I think 

916
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:36,160
meeting your daughter and needs 
to know her was really good and 

917
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,040
I she's how many kids should 
have like 6? 

918
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,760
5 or 6. 
Five and then. 65 in the adopted

919
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,600
1. 
Right, which you know, we. 

920
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,440
Shouldn't I know we shouldn't? 
Qualify that. 

921
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,440
Yeah, yeah. 
So 6 kids, but yeah. 

922
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:55,520
So then Gretchen eventually. 
Well, Tamara's like, Nope, not 

923
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:57,400
going to do it. 
And then like brings it up at 

924
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,920
the table and you're saying that
Gretchen seemed really 

925
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,840
embarrassed and like she could 
look her in the eye. 

926
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,160
She. 
Wouldn't look her in the eye 

927
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:05,720
like. 
And tried to like, throw it at 

928
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,280
Emily and Emily's like, no, no, 
no, no, girl. 

929
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,360
Like we weren't provoking this. 
OK, you. 

930
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,760
And then even Heather, I like 
that Heather stepped in and was 

931
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:17,880
like, OK, it started off silly. 
Yeah, we were just talking about

932
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,760
it. 
And then her, her single came 

933
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,800
up. 
And then she then she was like, 

934
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,040
oh, did you know Tamara's tried 
to sing a song? 

935
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,560
And it started off all goofy. 
We wanted to hear the song. 

936
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:32,280
And then she, you know, and so I
liked that Heather was kind of 

937
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,080
trying to diplomat the 
situation. 

938
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,280
Because she's friends of both of
them. 

939
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,400
Right. 
And I think it was, I think it 

940
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:42,200
was legitimately true that it 
what did start off goofy and 

941
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:45,480
then Heather or Gretchen took 
that opportunity to be like, oh,

942
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:49,400
and then allegedly Jeff Timmons.
Yeah, it could have been like 

943
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,800
listen to like how bad Tamara 
sounds. 

944
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,680
We even Tamara was like, I 
sounded bad, right? 

945
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:55,920
But instead it went to a 
malicious place, right? 

946
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,640
That's what freshman Slay do. 
So you and I talked about this 

947
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,120
as well. 
You mentioned it. 

948
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,760
You're the keen one who spotted 
it. 

949
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:07,200
Like Tamara did get ahead of all
this in all, in every sense, in 

950
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,960
every step of the way. 
So when she mentioned like, yes,

951
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,840
I knew someone in a boy band and
I sang, I was awful. 

952
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,680
Like I don't think I was good. 
So she got ahead of that. 

953
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,040
She was able to like, or at 
least the editors put that in. 

954
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,640
So she could be like, I'm aware 
that this exists. 

955
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,080
And then she also got ahead of 
the whole. 

956
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,960
Notion of that it could have had
something, something could have 

957
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:32,800
happened with me and this guy 
right when she said because she 

958
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,320
said. 
I was broken up with. 

959
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:37,360
Simon and I had just started 
seeing Eddie. 

960
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,680
Eddie. 
So if you try to throw at me 

961
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,840
that I had an affair, that's not
true, right? 

962
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,400
Although again, as I said 
earlier, it could be considered 

963
00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,040
cheating because she was with 
Eddie. 

964
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,600
But again, what's it matter to 
Gretchen? 

965
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:54,960
Tamara could cheat on 100,000 
men and it has nothing to do 

966
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,760
with Gretchen unless she was. 
The thing about this, everything

967
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,640
is from the past. 
There's nothing like currently 

968
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,080
that Gretchen herself, the other
woman of of course, Shannon. 

969
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,000
Shannon could point to things 
that Tamara's done to them 

970
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,040
recently. 
Everything that Gretchen points 

971
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,720
out happened a decade ago or a 
decade ago. 

972
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:17,480
We had to rewind to pause and 
see what that that. 

973
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:20,520
Article was 2014, yes. 
Then what? 

974
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:24,760
It doesn't matter anymore. 
Like you say you want to move on

975
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,760
at the beach and then pop jump 
to LA and you're talking shit. 

976
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,880
And now this time now you're 
threatening. 

977
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,840
Like, I could say so much more 
than say it than say it. 

978
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,040
Yeah, but also like, do you No 
one's saying you need to be 

979
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,280
friends. 
They say you saying you need to 

980
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:40,920
coexist. 
That's what you're saying for 

981
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:43,680
yourself. 
You made a made-up on the beach,

982
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,240
but then you just keep 
progressing. 

983
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:49,040
You can't help yourself that you
hate her so much and Tamara's 

984
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,720
not doing the same thing. 
Tamara wasn't then Temecula 

985
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:55,120
saying, you know, I have this, 
someone sent me the story about 

986
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,880
Gretchen from like back in 2012.
But actually going back stopping

987
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:02,720
for a second because I don't 
know like the whole back story. 

988
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:07,040
I probably if I go and read it, 
I can figure it out of this guy 

989
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,800
that Tamara claims that Gretchen
was hooking up this guy, 

990
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:15,520
cheating on her fiance with him.
Then they she got caught and 

991
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,360
then it was like no, this guy's 
talking to me. 

992
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,800
And then she talked shit about 
him, He talked shit about her. 

993
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:21,920
They sued each other. 
It got into a mess. 

994
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,440
Whereas Gretchen phrases it as 
this guy who she was not having 

995
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,600
an affair with but who was 
obsessed with her and was 

996
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,840
stalking her and sued her and 
then she won. 

997
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,520
So I don't know all the details 
except for what I just spouted 

998
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:40,520
out, but regardless, it was 
decades ago, I don't care. 

999
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:49,560
Yeah, yeah, like also if you're 
yeah, like you might be pissed 

1000
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,200
off about it, it may sting, it 
may hurt. 

1001
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,480
Your pride may have fallen 
because of that. 

1002
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,040
Like you may be really upset 
about it, but best what is the 

1003
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:00,800
best revenge of life well lived 
like? 

1004
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,680
It's not it's it's that, yes, 
but it's also you now have the 

1005
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:08,240
ability to control the narrative
about who you are in your 

1006
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:11,120
current life and what you want 
to talk about. 

1007
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,480
But when you tie yourself to the
past and these old beefs, then 

1008
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:20,840
you were stuck there and you're 
allowing your story to revolve 

1009
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,520
around Tamra, right? 
So as much as you hate Tamra, 

1010
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:27,840
you are making Tamra the center 
of your world and your existence

1011
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,000
on the show. 
So what does that do for you? 

1012
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,840
And why would we want to have 
you stick around when you're not

1013
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,800
bringing anything new to the 
table as a housewife? 

1014
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,320
Well, I mean, she wants to do it
because it gets her paycheck 

1015
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,600
clearly, obviously. 
But to answer your question, I 

1016
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,360
think maybe the the hope of 
bringing this up is that it'll 

1017
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:52,080
create a new beef that can then 
be modern and carry on. 

1018
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:55,640
But there isn't any new It's 
just like I'm mad at like 

1019
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,160
Tamara's mad because you're 
trying. 

1020
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,080
You're lying about things that 
happened, supposedly happened 

1021
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:03,840
years ago. 
So there's no if Tamara had done

1022
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,000
something to Gretchen right this
second, there's the issue, 

1023
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:09,280
right? 
But she didn't. 

1024
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,680
So would it be better than for 
Gretchen to just yeah, I guess 

1025
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:13,920
you're right. 
It would be better for Richard 

1026
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,800
to not bring up the past and 
anything and just kind of if she

1027
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,840
was looking for, she could set a
trap that would like be a 

1028
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,680
moderation. 
She could wait for something for

1029
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,080
Tamara to be her own worst enemy
and create a drama that she 

1030
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,760
could say, see, see, like this 
happened yesterday. 

1031
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,080
And yeah, but when you're 
relying on your whole basis of 

1032
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:39,480
hating Tamara being something 
from 2013, what do you where do 

1033
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,680
we go? 
You're right, because she does 

1034
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,600
start doing that with a lot of 
like, you know, when she hears 

1035
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,520
about the whole Shannon dad 
thing. 

1036
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,560
Yeah, that sounds like Tamara. 
You know, she kind of gives. 

1037
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,240
I don't know if she said that 
exactly, but like, when things 

1038
00:49:51,240 --> 00:49:54,360
like that happen, Gretchen will 
pipe in real quick and be like, 

1039
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:55,880
Oh yeah, see, that's why we 
can't. 

1040
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:57,840
Trust as well Jen yeah as well 
Jen. 

1041
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:01,000
Yeah Jen did a shitty job of 
like trying to like be in 

1042
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,440
Gretchens corner. 
You prove nothing, Jen. 

1043
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:06,360
Gretchen does not want to talk 
about Tamara. 

1044
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:09,560
That's all I know. 
I just like you're going to get 

1045
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,680
hit by lightning, honey, and you
look good in that confessional. 

1046
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,320
That'd be a shame. 
I know. 

1047
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,120
It's really one of your best 
looks. 

1048
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,640
The the you were saying as we 
sat down that like, you're like,

1049
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:24,320
I just wish there was more show.
Well, each time it ends, I'm 

1050
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:27,000
like, I want to know more. 
Like I want to see more like. 

1051
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,400
I want the previews with Tamara 
being mad at. 

1052
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,880
Heather and Emily. 
Yeah, I want to see that. 

1053
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:34,880
It was cute. 
It was cute. 

1054
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,040
You guys should have been here. 
Jeff sat down and he was like, 

1055
00:50:37,240 --> 00:50:38,560
it's like, I just want more 
show. 

1056
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,280
I want more show. 
And he's like pretty. 

1057
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,320
He's doing their job exactly 
like he was. 

1058
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:44,600
Just good on you. 
He was just. 

1059
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:47,560
So hard and he's like, good, 
good for you doing what you're 

1060
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:52,000
supposed to do show. 
That's why we need screeners, 

1061
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,640
yeah. 
We need to work on that, really 

1062
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,560
do. 
We got to get our PR team 

1063
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:56,680
revved. 
Up rights. 

1064
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:58,640
Come on PR team. 
Oh, he doesn't listen to this. 

1065
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,080
Horrible, horrible. 
Entire camping trip with someone

1066
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:07,120
with APR background and he said 
oh I could probably do but I'm 

1067
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,680
like then do. 
It do it show me. 

1068
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,640
And he's not even listened to 
our show once. 

1069
00:51:11,720 --> 00:51:14,840
I got to guilt that mofo right? 
Anyway. 

1070
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:20,680
Heavy on the MO. 
Very heavy on the MO, sometimes 

1071
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,920
on the foe. 
I wish you enjoyed eating pho 

1072
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,000
because I could make another 
faux joke, right? 

1073
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:29,640
Anyway, I you know. 
Did we cover all the bases? 

1074
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:32,160
We covered all the bases. 
Poor, poor Katie. 

1075
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,720
Come on. 
I know, OK. 

1076
00:51:34,840 --> 00:51:38,320
She Katie should have showed up 
like at the self-defense class. 

1077
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:41,120
They should have her come in and
be like an assailant and like, 

1078
00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:43,120
be like. 
Takes off the mask. 

1079
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:45,520
Yeah, be like, be like, then 
someone's coming at you, 

1080
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,120
Shannon. 
Then she takes off the mask and 

1081
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,760
Shannon's like, yeah. 
And like Dexter, you know. 

1082
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:52,560
No, that would not be good. 
No, but I mean like throws her 

1083
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:55,680
to the deck. 
Judo roll. 

1084
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,640
No, we're going to cut that out.
No, we're in that. 

1085
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,720
That's innocent. 
We don't promote violence. 

1086
00:51:59,720 --> 00:52:01,440
You're too paranoid. 
I'm not paranoid. 

1087
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,440
We just don't promote violence. 
I don't even decking anybody. 

1088
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,680
Tamara getting so close to 
Gretchen, like, I feel like 

1089
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,160
Gretchen needs to to like, use 
the self-defense and like put 

1090
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,520
out her elbows. 
Gretchen grabbed her wrists. 

1091
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,960
Real quick, yeah. 
Yeah, she was coming at Jen, but

1092
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:18,560
I didn't feel like she was in 
like touch her, but definitely 

1093
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:19,680
I. 
Went through the napkins. 

1094
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,320
No, I was going to say it was 
similar to the whole Jen Aiden 

1095
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:28,240
and Danielle Cabral glass in the
face. 

1096
00:52:28,240 --> 00:52:31,920
Yeah, that was one where it did 
seem like Jen was really coming 

1097
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,040
at. 
Oh, she she prepared that for 

1098
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,920
sure. 
But again, don't they don't 

1099
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,800
condone it should turn out 
elbows. 

1100
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:43,560
Oh, Katie, Katie should shut up.
And a better Laura Craft Croft 

1101
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:47,000
Laura Craft craft. 
Craft singles. 

1102
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:50,680
A better Laura Croft outfit and 
be like, yeah, screw you, 

1103
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:52,760
Correct. 
And they're like, Oh no, she 

1104
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,200
shouldn't have because, you 
know, we shouldn't do that. 

1105
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,960
Interconventional Gretchen got 
really close to like a high out 

1106
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,160
of like. 
Don't do it. 

1107
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:02,920
Don't do it. 
Don't do it. 

1108
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:07,920
Show your colors that horrible 
horrible outfit that she did 2 

1109
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:11,240
takes of because the hair is 
different and one of them it's 

1110
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:12,400
higher. 
Yeah. 

1111
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,280
Trying to get closer to Jesus. 
Try, try as you might try. 

1112
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:19,480
And all right, well, it looks 
like we got everything covered. 

1113
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,480
Yes, and suddenly much more 
tired now. 

1114
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:24,880
I know because we like all the 
adrenaline's pumped. 

1115
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,120
In the adrenaline, I know the 
adrenaline. 

1116
00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:28,280
I think, I think we had a nice 
little adrenaline pump. 

1117
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,080
And now I'm just like, OK, I'm 
ready to relax. 

1118
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,320
Yeah. 
So we got to go watch some Miami

1119
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:34,040
and then do an episode tomorrow.
It'll be all good. 

1120
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:38,720
Well, thanks for tuning in. 
Please, like, subscribe, find us

1121
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:40,560
on the internet's on the social 
media. 

1122
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:44,120
Husband's watching housewives 
everywhere you can think of an 

1123
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,400
on that note, we'll last say 
until next time. 

1124
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,160
Until next time.
