1 00:00:08,770 --> 00:00:11,370 Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. 2 00:00:11,370 --> 00:00:13,890 I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we just watched an episode of The 3 00:00:13,890 --> 00:00:15,730 Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. 4 00:00:15,850 --> 00:00:19,130 Sure did. Episode #2 of season 6. 5 00:00:19,450 --> 00:00:22,770 Seven Six Season 6/6. Yeah, so much. 6 00:00:22,770 --> 00:00:25,890 I realized we need to start putting the episode numbers in 7 00:00:25,890 --> 00:00:28,650 our descriptions and stuff because some people really want 8 00:00:28,650 --> 00:00:30,730 to just find out, oh, what episode are they talking about? 9 00:00:31,010 --> 00:00:33,130 Right. It's helpful because, you know, 10 00:00:33,250 --> 00:00:36,330 yeah, you can't always tell from our titles which what it, you 11 00:00:36,330 --> 00:00:36,880 know. Yeah. 12 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:38,600 And cannot sometimes are kind of a name. 13 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:41,760 For those of you who are happy to see us talking about Salt 14 00:00:41,760 --> 00:00:44,160 Lake, meaning see us on the YouTube, you got to go back and 15 00:00:44,160 --> 00:00:47,440 listen to our audio episode that we did with the Bestie approved 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,440 podcast. They they had us on their 17 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:52,000 podcast. I guess we were on each other's. 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,280 Podcast each other's Yes yes collab. 19 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,400 It was a collab. I like to call it a collab. 20 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,720 I don't know why, but it was a good episode. 21 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:03,720 It's, it's interesting doing stuff with other people just in 22 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,720 general like. Just getting another opinion, 23 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:07,720 right. And they're really, they're very 24 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:12,160 funny and like easy to talk to. And it's like, you know, they we 25 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,600 might disagree on things, but it's like, oh, it's I hear your 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,960 point of view and that that's actually a good point that I 27 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:19,240 wouldn't have thought of. So yeah, that's nice. 28 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,440 I felt a little off the entire episode, only in that, like, I 29 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:24,640 just felt like a fish out of water slightly because like, I'm 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,960 just so used to coming up here and like, you know, we're 31 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:29,800 married, so we already have a kind of routine amongst 32 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,760 ourselves. But I didn't realize, you know, 33 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,440 we've done over 200 episodes of this. 34 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,000 Has been 200. Now it's been yeah, over 200. 35 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:38,920 Really. I think we're like at 210 36 00:01:38,960 --> 00:01:40,880 something more than that. I missed 200. 37 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,560 Yeah. So I just have a routine and 38 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,000 kind of like a, a, a pace that I get into. 39 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:50,000 And so when there's someone else involved, I was like, so. 40 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:52,360 It does stir you off, Yeah. And it's like I felt and I'll 41 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,480 see what it's four people. So you're like worried about 42 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,160 like, oh, because I and accidentally interrupted because 43 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,840 it's going to happen because you're having, you're talking at 44 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:01,520 the same time. You don't mean to, right. 45 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,240 I mean, to cut somebody off. And I'm like, oh, crap. 46 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,640 You know what did you say? I, I Yeah. 47 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:07,440 Well, on the other problem, and we'll figure this out before we 48 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,680 do the next one, which we're planning on doing for the 49 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,240 Potomac premiere. So if you're the next one fan, 50 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:13,200 we're going to be doing that. What? 51 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:14,840 Fricking is that next week? Potomac? 52 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,320 October 5th, yeah. No. 53 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:19,360 Is that next week? October is next Wednesday. 54 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Oh, geez. I know. 55 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,000 So that Monday we're going to record right after the Monday 56 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,080 after Potomac, Yeah. What I realized is because we 57 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,560 only had it showing whoever was talking, you couldn't see the 58 00:02:28,640 --> 00:02:32,200 other people to see if they were like about ready to start next. 59 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,160 Time yes we should do the split screen even though like. 60 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:35,840 Yeah, even though we were cut off a little bit. 61 00:02:35,920 --> 00:02:37,440 Yeah, on our. Perspective, I still wanted to 62 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,720 see them yeah, we would know that someone's about to say yeah 63 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:44,960 make a good point so. But yeah, the if you loved the 64 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:48,120 first episode of Salt Lake, this second one was pretty damn. 65 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:49,200 I mean, it was so. Good. 66 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,680 It was good, Yeah. Yeah, it was good. 67 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Yes. I don't even know where to 68 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,680 begin. Well, we start with them at the 69 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,440 RV. Still, I wish they actually 70 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,200 slept in. They did well, or at least 71 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,680 showed them waking up there. I wish they'd made more of a 72 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,640 housewives deal over the sleeping accommodations. 73 00:03:06,640 --> 00:03:08,760 The fact that it looked like Meredith. 74 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,320 And who was that next? Ron Ronwyn just slept in a 75 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,520 recliner. I was just like, I don't what 76 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,840 like, like I want to see Luanne doing that like. 77 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,320 I feel like Tennessee and stuff I need to do something about. 78 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,080 I mean, they have that, that crappy motel, right? 79 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:25,800 Crappy. That's but, but if Luanne always 80 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:28,200 complained about being on the lower level, like imagine her 81 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,320 like, I'm not sleeping in a recliner, darling. 82 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,480 I'd rather have my own recliner than like. 83 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:36,640 Share a bed. Yeah, well, obviously if it's 84 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:40,360 you, it's yeah, but like it, yeah 'cause there's like yeah, 85 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Mary and Angie and then Whitney and Heather, of course, and then 86 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,600 Bronwyn and. Meredith just slept in the 87 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:48,320 recliners. Yeah. 88 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:50,840 And then where was Brittany? Was she just like on the ground? 89 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,400 She who knows she's in the in the driver, in the passenger 90 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,880 seat she can find. They're like blur witch can get 91 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,440 ya. I liked in the morning, that was 92 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:04,880 it, Heather who was like, let's go brush our teeth bound by the 93 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,480 river. And she's like, why will we do 94 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,720 that? Like, so we can talk shit about 95 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,080 everyone. Like that was to me, you'd be 96 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:14,040 like, let's get out of this tight, probably smelly. 97 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,040 Yeah, like RV right now and let's go out and let's talk some 98 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,279 shit. So I was disappointed that we 99 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,400 didn't get more of it. Right as they're like down by 100 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,760 the river. I My funniest, The funniest 101 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,800 thing was saying, of course they're not gonna let something 102 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,240 happen to us. It would be a liability for the 103 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,200 network. Yeah. 104 00:04:35,280 --> 00:04:38,120 I do like as much as she irritates me sometimes. 105 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,400 Meredith is pretty funny sometimes as well. 106 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:44,520 So what all else happened before Heather went and narked on 107 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,040 everybody with Lisa? Good Lord, man. 108 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,120 Like she couldn't wait to run and run her mouth. 109 00:04:52,240 --> 00:04:55,240 Yeah. And give her version of things. 110 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,240 Yeah, which weren't totally accurate. 111 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,840 Not, I mean, I wouldn't say they're not at all accurate. 112 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:02,040 It was just very, very, very colored. 113 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:06,440 In her favor before we get to that, it's her basically feeling 114 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,400 like Bronwyn's calling her a shitty mom and that around the 115 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,160 campfire. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 116 00:05:11,280 --> 00:05:16,080 Was until Heather got all in her feelings and her hateful Ronwyn 117 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,360 feelings. And I think it was a good 118 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,680 discussion about motherhood. And like, you know, Heather 119 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,120 doesn't talk a lot about her husband and you know, when he 120 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,840 left and like what happened and to hear her say he never had 121 00:05:27,840 --> 00:05:30,480 like an overnight with them and he never had any sort of 122 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:32,680 custody. It was strictly her. 123 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,920 And he just, I guess, provided, even though they were divorced, 124 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,200 provided for the the daughters. That was really interesting to 125 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,080 me, like about that relationship because she just doesn't get 126 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,600 into it. I think she wants to protect 127 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:48,240 that and protect her, her daughters and not speak I'll 128 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,000 about him. I don't know if you know this 129 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:53,840 about me, but I do love to play the devil's advocate sometimes. 130 00:05:55,280 --> 00:05:58,040 And I keep telling you, you're messing with that devil. 131 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,480 It's not going to be good. I, you know, I'm go ahead. 132 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:05,400 I'm going to say, look, I I'm not, I'm sure that Heather's 133 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,080 version of the custody and every. 134 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:08,200 Oh, that's that we're talking about. 135 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Yeah, that I'm saying is like it's quite common for the mother 136 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:16,760 to get full custody, yes. And so like depending upon how 137 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:20,000 you know, acrimonious, that means bad, right, acrimonious 138 00:06:20,280 --> 00:06:23,240 how their divorce was, it could have just been default that like 139 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,560 she got sole custody and then like, you know, it's possible 140 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,120 that she prevented him from having an overnight. 141 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,760 I'm just saying, like it's a common arrangement. 142 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,440 Now, I would also say devil's advocate the opposite way 143 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:40,360 Angel's advocate that he should have, you know, as a father, 144 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,280 tried harder to make those things happen, you know, And so 145 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,920 if he didn't do that, maybe he did not have the interest in 146 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,920 what Heather's saying. I wouldn't think that she would 147 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,280 have blocked him. Like this is me sticking up for 148 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:51,680 Heather. I don't think she would have 149 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,400 blocked him from being with the girls. 150 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,480 I think she would have like also wanted a break as she said, like 151 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:02,040 she basically was mothering these girls a lot of on non-stop 152 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:03,800 on her own. And it would be great to have 153 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,800 you taken them for a fun weekend while she just like, you know, 154 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,000 decompressed cause three daughters. 155 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:11,280 It's it's a lot, you know, and you're working. 156 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:16,040 Well, I guess she was I, I'd like to know the timeline when 157 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:17,840 she started beauty lab and all that. 158 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:20,360 You know she's talking about failures in the last episode, 159 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:22,600 but I can't. Imagine it happened overnight. 160 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,640 No sure was you know going on a while. 161 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:29,520 My guess is, you know also that he probably, you know, if 162 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:34,000 misogyny runs the way I think it probably does in that 163 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,240 relationship, I'm sure he was like, oh, you're done with me, 164 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,160 I'm done with you. I'm on to another woman and we 165 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,280 have, I have a new family now. You know, that sort of 166 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:41,680 mentality. Yeah, I don't know. 167 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,800 If he got remarried, I'd, I'd have to Google that. 168 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:49,640 I'd have to care more. But no, I think it was what 169 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,280 you're saying. You know, we're in the church, 170 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,320 the woman, right, stays behind and, you know, takes care of the 171 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,560 kids and he's the provider. So I think it just made sense 172 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,200 aside from like the normal, like my mother's getting sold 173 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,640 custody. Typically it was, you know, of 174 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,560 course, you didn't take the kids. 175 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,880 Why would I, right, right. But you would think joint 176 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,560 custody. But that's not how it worked in 177 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,080 any event, right? So that was really. 178 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,640 Derailed No, it was fine. That was her experience. 179 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:14,720 And then Bronwyn was sharing her experience and Heather just 180 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:17,720 thought that Bronwyn was shitting on her and it's she 181 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,000 wasn't. She was like, I understand where 182 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,720 you're coming from and like our similar upbringings in the 183 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Mormon church and like what these traditional roles that are 184 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,920 like put on us. But for me, my experience is 185 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,800 that I, you know, don't want to let go of my daughter yet. 186 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:32,960 And then she goes into better detail in her confessional. 187 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,880 And also, I felt when they met for lunch, she tried to explain 188 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:39,240 it, but Heather just wanted, Heather just wanted to have an 189 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,760 issue, right, You know, And it just couldn't be that. 190 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,880 I feel everyone else shared well. 191 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:47,200 And I think Heather shared well too. 192 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,920 But like, she just had to like, be bothered by Bronwyn. 193 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,800 Like, I wonder if Angie had said it or if Mary had, you know, or 194 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,280 Woody had said it. Like, you know, I'm not done, 195 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:58,880 but I don't know. I mean, it's one of those 196 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:03,280 situations where I feel like sometimes, you know, someone's 197 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,560 talking, someone's really in their feelings about themselves. 198 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,560 And that, you know, if you try to like bring up your experience 199 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:14,640 as a way to like, you know, commiserate and to sympathize 200 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,240 with them, they automatically Oh, well, now you're trying to 201 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,360 make it about you. And so that I think that's. 202 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:21,960 Just wasn't even that. It was like you're trying to 203 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:24,800 just make me look bad. Oh, I didn't really. 204 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,680 I don't think Bronwyn. Bronwyn's just been trying this 205 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:30,160 entire trip to be good with you, right? 206 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:31,760 And you are irritated her. Why? 207 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Because she's talking about your best Elisa Barlow. 208 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,360 And two, now you're thinking she's calling you a bad mother. 209 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,080 I don't see how what she said was could be construed as 210 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,760 calling her a bad. Mother, exactly. 211 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,920 That's what I am saying. Even before watching tonight 212 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:47,880 like I saw the a clip of her like at explaining it I was like 213 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,600 I don't know how from the cash backs they showed and everything 214 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,600 like what she said could be calling Heather a bad mother. 215 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,800 No, and then she like, you know, when they met, she went into 216 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,680 more detail. Like I feel like I haven't maybe 217 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:01,560 not done the best job of mothering. 218 00:10:01,560 --> 00:10:04,240 And that's why I'm still like hesitant to let Gwen go. 219 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,800 And then I wish she had said this in with the group Bronwyn 220 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,800 when she said, like, you know, my identity is wrapped up in 221 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,080 being Gwen's mom. And if she's not there, then 222 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,840 it's like, what do I do with my life now? 223 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,600 And, you know, and the thought of it all and I think, you know, 224 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,040 she, it wastes a lot of things that a lot of women feel, you 225 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:28,200 know, And so I don't know, Bron, Heather was just looking for a 226 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:29,680 fight. And Heather, that irritated the 227 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:30,960 crap out of the lab. Absolutely. 228 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,520 And then I mean, it's evident by how when she goes to meet Lisa, 229 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,560 she's just like, oh, let me tell you what happened. 230 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,440 And it yeah, I guess that happened, but like, she 231 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:43,360 completely missed. Me. 232 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:44,320 Excuse me. Let me. 233 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,240 Let me do this thing, thing, thing, thing. 234 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,000 What about Brittany? Yeah. 235 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,160 Like where you're saying where was, you know, Brittany had your 236 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:52,600 back. She was staunchly defending you. 237 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,640 She got in a fight with Whitney to defend you. 238 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:57,440 No. Heather was like, oh, no, it's 239 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:58,920 just me. Meredith was silent. 240 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:00,640 It was just me. Yeah, girl. 241 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,160 Bye. It wasn't just you. 242 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,960 Like like. And even for, even for comedic 243 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:08,120 value, you could be like, Oh yeah. 244 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:09,880 I was surprised, Britney chimed in. 245 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,040 Because I didn't know you two were so chummy, you know, even 246 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:12,800 that. But. 247 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:15,000 Instead, it's all like, no Lisa, it was just me. 248 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:18,320 I laid down my life for you. Like I was like, no Brahma, 249 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,880 please stop talking about Lisa. And she just slapped me and kept 250 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:22,560 going. And then she called me a bad 251 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:25,640 mom. Like I can't with Heather. 252 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,120 And that's I can't. I can't. 253 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,480 I can't. I can't do better, Heather. 254 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:30,920 Do better. Yeah. 255 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,600 You're an unreliable narrator. And I hate that in a novel, and 256 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,240 I hate that in a housewife. Stop it. 257 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:40,280 Stop it. So yeah, she meets with Lisa 258 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:42,360 and. And the smallest restaurant 259 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:43,800 possible. Good Lord, that was like 260 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,920 someones like backroom. Yeah, like I. 261 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,080 It's also one of those restaurants, I feel what it's 262 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,960 called. It's saturated, painted, where 263 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,400 like every surface is the same color. 264 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:55,920 It was like all that, like dark blackish blue. 265 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:58,360 It felt like like a lot like black trapes and like the weird 266 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,840 like. It was just too much. 267 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,760 And then, yeah, and that waiter's eyes. 268 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,520 Was that the right waiter? Yeah, they're a little buggy. 269 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,120 They're a little buggy. Sorry, fellow. 270 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:08,560 Yeah, you know, Yeah. That was your moment maybe. 271 00:12:08,560 --> 00:12:10,400 The lighting was just bright. I was more into the ladies 272 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:12,600 behind them, like the one lady who was like just looking them 273 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,680 up and down like. Well and since you pointed that 274 00:12:14,680 --> 00:12:17,040 out, there was another guy behind one of them who didn't 275 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,560 seem to be eating or doing anything. 276 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,960 Like he just sat there with his hand on the plate and like does 277 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,640 he moving at all? Which reminds me of moving. 278 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,080 You pointed out all the Reddit kerfuffle about Lisa's eye 279 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,720 being. My God, interconfessional it's 280 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:35,320 one has one is more lashed than the other and one is smoker than 281 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,200 the other. Like her glam was like, no, we 282 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,880 got to go glams like I'm not done like whatever, we got to go 283 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,160 and there she went. What? 284 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,400 And no one told her. What I couldn't get over was how 285 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:48,120 much she blinked in that scene. With, with, with. 286 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,520 Blinks non-stop. It was insane and and part of 287 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,000 me, I started watching it thinking like how often like is 288 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,320 her blinking increase with how much she's lying? 289 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,400 Like something like is there like a ratio of truth to blink? 290 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,880 Because dear God, she was like blooming. 291 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,680 And I was like, I started thinking for a moment if I was 292 00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:11,040 wearing a heavy eye makeup with false lashes, maybe I blink. 293 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,720 That much maybe it's did you get? 294 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,640 Something in there like. You're trying to make like, hold 295 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:17,600 your eye open, so you have to like keep blinking because 296 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,400 otherwise the way out the lash, we'll just shut it and you'll be 297 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,080 like, what do you mean, Heather? He was saying something about 298 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:25,960 me. I don't love that. 299 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:28,640 It was making me uncomfortable, like that sort of thing when 300 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,400 someone points out that like, you know, you're doing something 301 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,520 too much and you're like, am I Or like for that moment in time, 302 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,040 you're like, I don't know if I remember how to swallow right 303 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,680 now. Like, oh God, I'm dying. 304 00:13:38,680 --> 00:13:40,760 You know, I was like, oh God, am I doing how to blink? 305 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,280 Am I over exaggerating it? But yeah, that was creeping me 306 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,000 to. Fuck, it was so much. 307 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,840 That confessional was weird with the braids. 308 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:54,000 And then yeah, of course, like where she was like, well, I'll 309 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,680 talk about them and did it like sorry, let's rewind it because 310 00:13:57,680 --> 00:13:59,280 I'm yeah, and I think like too much. 311 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:04,160 I was watching one of the episodes back and the amounts of 312 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:05,640 time I was watching one of the clips. 313 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,760 We always say like it's. But it's too much to annoys me. 314 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,160 I'm annoyed by myself. That's good as long as you're 315 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,760 aware of it. Just do better. 316 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,040 But I did, I did. I didn't like that one episode. 317 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,960 I was said I'm going to hold myself accountable. 318 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:18,680 I. Well, it's all right, It's a 319 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:20,440 minor set back. OK. 320 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,240 Much, much. New season Mary show it's. 321 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:25,920 Like Mary Cosby's son, it's a mild set back. 322 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,960 We're going to get to that you. Just got to do better. 323 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:33,120 OK, so we're rolling it back. So Heather has told her version 324 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,360 of the events and Lisa is, of course, denying everything. 325 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,240 No, I'm not getting sued. They're all being dismissed. 326 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:44,520 You know, I like that Heather pointed out how Lisa said, oh, 327 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:48,560 my life is so different from you guys and the elitist attitude. 328 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,400 That's great that Heather can point that out, point out more 329 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:55,400 things happen. OK, this this bestie ain't ain't 330 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:59,840 so bestie, but just. I still don't understand 331 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,160 Heather's desire to be friends with. 332 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,680 I don't like speaking this absolutely, but I don't 333 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:08,000 understand her desire to be friends with the worst person in 334 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,720 the room like. I mean, right? 335 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,800 Right, just has this thing of of I need to be friends with 336 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:18,800 whoever the most volatile person is. 337 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:21,680 Maybe worst person in the room. Volatile is a good way of saying 338 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 yeah. Yeah, I just don't understand 339 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,200 the desire. And I feel like whoever I feel 340 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,440 as though who I'm trying to remove, like from the 341 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:33,520 vocabulary, feel as though whomever was going to be the 342 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:39,160 most, you know, controversial Heather would glom herself onto. 343 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,720 And I just, I'm curious where that comes from. 344 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,480 Maybe you know the person who's getting the most attention and 345 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,880 and you are more attracted to A to the light. 346 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Yeah. And also then you don't have to 347 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:53,880 try as hard. If you're part of a big family, 348 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,360 you know you're probably always seeking attention, and so you go 349 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,160 with whoever gets the most right. 350 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:02,760 So, but in this case, I, I don't understand, but still laying 351 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:05,840 down and it's really I'm, I'm devoted to you, Lisa. 352 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,440 And I was the only one who had your back. 353 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,280 And yeah, that whole, that whole launch was just very odd. 354 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,600 And Lisa did nothing to make me think these lawsuits are 355 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,960 frivolous. There's a lot of smoke there. 356 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,560 I mean if you have. A lot of smoke. 357 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:25,080 If you haven't listened to it, definitely anyone listening to 358 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,000 this should go check out the Bravo docket on those things. 359 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,120 I'm wondering if I need to do an update on them. 360 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,920 I think they should. I mean, I listened to it. 361 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,040 It was very informative. And I think that there it's, 362 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,360 it's nothing is black and white. I'm, you know, some of what 363 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,560 Lisa's saying is true. They got thrown out. 364 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,160 But I think some of what was it Angie or Bronwyn was saying that 365 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,080 someone was saying like the foundation of which she's saying 366 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,280 they should be thrown out is well, we never had a repayment 367 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,360 agreement. So therefore I, how could I be 368 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,200 late on it? So it's using these 369 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,240 technicalities that that that's, you know, saying, you know, how 370 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:03,960 did I default on a contract if we never had a contract? 371 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:08,680 And so it's really grasping at straws, which, you know, is what 372 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,119 legality is about. But I think if you're starting 373 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,480 to play that game, you know, you've done something wrong. 374 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,920 But at the same time, if you had an understanding that was 375 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,240 different for someone else, you never wrote it down, then yeah, 376 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,480 you have to do these sorts of things. 377 00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,480 So not defending her, but you know. 378 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:29,200 And also, you know, people Lisa saying, you know, Bronwyn's a 379 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,200 lawyer and you know, why is she looking into all this when? 380 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,120 Did Bronwyn being a lawyer come into or? 381 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:35,800 Going to college. Right. 382 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,480 Doesn't matter. She's an intelligent person. 383 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,000 She reads things. I mean, she reads Lisa. 384 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:45,840 That's what she does. One thing saying like I read the 385 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:47,160 newspaper. I was like, well, that's, you 386 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,200 know, reading. There's more. 387 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,720 What was that like a three column article at best? 388 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,360 In fact, she could point out things. 389 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,320 Someone she Todd got her those documents. 390 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:58,960 Probably she got her highlighter out and. 391 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,080 She probably listened to that episode of the Bravo. 392 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,080 Doc that too, but the fact that she could like quote so many 393 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:07,560 things of you know, John Barlow didn't know about the loan and 394 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,840 the guy brought in her text messages as as receipts right to 395 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,240 the to the the court case. Getting, getting down to it 396 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,120 without getting down to it. Lisa's I I just feel like when 397 00:18:20,120 --> 00:18:23,160 someone starts name calling, yeah, they're wrong. 398 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,080 They have nothing else that they can do. 399 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,040 They just start name calling. Which I was thinking back to how 400 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:31,960 because you were talking earlier, we were watching how 401 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,320 low Lisa goes and I was thinking, you know, the only 402 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:37,080 time she was like that was with Monica. 403 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,240 Yes, the two of them are really good at that, but that's also 404 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:42,160 neither of them had anything else to say. 405 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,280 So they would just start calling each other names like they. 406 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:48,440 Monica was better at it and a bunch of wrong 1 is good but it 407 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,000 doesn't go to the gutter, you know she just, she's just very 408 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,520 quick with her words. My problem with Bronwyn was at 409 00:18:55,520 --> 00:19:00,600 the end of the episode, it took her a little while to slip into 410 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,720 a you can call me whatever you want mode because she was really 411 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,160 going tit for tat towards the end of the arguing back and 412 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,680 forth. But then after like a few times 413 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:14,160 of Lisa going on about gout, Bronwyn was like whatever. 414 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:15,800 Like it's not going to bother me. 415 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:19,680 Like like what really switched for me was when she's like, I 416 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,800 love my husband and Oh no, I have to have sex with him. 417 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,040 Like you're making that sound like a. 418 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,920 Bad thing? Yeah, let's well, and there's, 419 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,960 there's more like there's so many layers to that. 420 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We can back out, yes, because I 421 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,720 think before we get at all. Well, there's a whole Whitney 422 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,200 and Bronwyn which we just basically discussed at Bronwyn 423 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,080 quoting things that and Whitney's just being so 424 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:43,240 surprised. Justin didn't know, John didn't 425 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:48,240 know. Oh, that's woo. 426 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:50,440 I also. So yeah, there was that. 427 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,080 But then the Whitney Justin scene of talking about. 428 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was just, that was very 429 00:19:58,400 --> 00:19:59,720 sad. That was sad, especially, you 430 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,720 know, we've met them like. I know, very sad. 431 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,000 They seem like nice people. But I mean, it seemed very 432 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:09,160 realistic, you know, and that's, you know, I think what's 433 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,960 interesting is especially us, us being in our 40s and doing 434 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,640 things that, you know, you know, doing this podcast, for 435 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,120 instance, not that this is, you know, anything groundbreaking, 436 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,160 but, you know, we're spending money on something that we want. 437 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,280 And that like, it would be really nice if it turned into 438 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,520 something, you know, and granted, they spent a lot more 439 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,440 and took a larger risk. It's something that I feel like 440 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:34,040 a lot of people in this age group do, especially it's now 441 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,800 this age, they, they, they take a risk on themselves and 442 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,560 sometimes it pays off, sometimes it doesn't. 443 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,080 And so I think it's a realistic to show that. 444 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,760 And I think Justin had a good realistic view of, like, you 445 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:48,320 know, we went all in and it just wasn't the right time for us. 446 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:50,560 I mean, this is a lesson for us to not do. 447 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,160 So I think with with us, there's definitely things, you know, we 448 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,080 talked about not loving our jobs at all times and like what if we 449 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:02,640 worked for ourselves? And it would be great to to try 450 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,560 to go on that venture, but it's also scary. 451 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,040 And to put all of our money towards that is also just, you 452 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,840 know, then to lose that, then it's just unimaginable, you 453 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,880 know, and you just for them, I just hope they're OK and that, 454 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:18,640 you know, I don't think there are any danger of losing their 455 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,760 house or not. But it's very scary to hear we 456 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,760 just put all of our savings into this now it's all gone. 457 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,160 Because I mean, no matter what you say, like I, I hope that 458 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,560 they're, you know, I'm sure that they protected themselves, all 459 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,640 the legalities and LLCS and all that stuff. 460 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,720 But at the end of the day, they still invested their own money 461 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,280 into this and probably other people's money that they've let 462 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,480 down and disappointed that they owe a debt of something to. 463 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,920 People who work for the Mood now are unemployed. 464 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:45,920 But you know, so they filed no bankruptcy. 465 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,040 They get out of that cool, but they're still out. 466 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,800 All the money they may have had prior to that that they could 467 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,960 have really done something with that they would rather not have 468 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,160 just lost. And also reputation and people 469 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,280 not wanting to take a risk on them again, right? 470 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,120 And it's just, it's a lot of layers. 471 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:03,080 And so, yeah. But again, so great that she is 472 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:06,080 being forthright and not trying to cover up and then have 473 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,400 another housewife expose her. Maybe that was all sort of 474 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,680 thinking, which is so twisted, you know, you have to think 2 475 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,280 steps ahead. Like I don't want another 476 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:17,760 housewife to get pissed at me and go do some digging and pull 477 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,680 this out and throw it in my face on camera. 478 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,400 I'm just going to just out myself basically, you know, But 479 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,280 also that's what's really happening in her life and that's 480 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:26,200 what you should be talking about. 481 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:27,280 What's really happening in your life. 482 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,800 Lisa, you just. Reminded me of that scene from 483 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:33,400 Clue where he's like I sort of. I knew someone would expose me 484 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,040 so I decided to expose myself. Please, Sir, there are ladies. 485 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Present. That's great. 486 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,960 While I derailed you there, I really feel like cuz Gab's been 487 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,360 coming up like every episode and just kind of chilling. 488 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,400 Yeah, we're doing some personal grooming. 489 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,120 I feel like we should get a cat Cam. 490 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,160 I could just intercut. Oh that would be so great. 491 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,960 Cuz I'm sure when we're talking about something boring like I 492 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,800 tend to do that people be like, oh, at least there's a cat on 493 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,360 the camera. That'd be delightful. 494 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,680 That, well, like one of our cameras that we use when we're 495 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,400 out of town, maybe. Oh, that could work. 496 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:04,840 Yeah. Yeah. 497 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:06,720 I don't know how to get, but we'll figure that out, yeah. 498 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,200 But anyway, so Oh yeah, the. Mary, the Mary, the Mary of it 499 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:12,760 all. Yes, which it feels like an 500 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:19,000 entirely different episode. Yeah, I'm happy please for the 501 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,040 updates. Grateful for the updates. 502 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,680 Sorry to hear. Also sad knowing when we know 503 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,800 that he just recently got arrested. 504 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,680 Right thing. Whatever. 505 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,560 The you know, I mentioned when we were watching it, like it's 506 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,480 difficult to watch. I don't want this to happen 507 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240 every episode. Like, I don't need this every 508 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,960 episode. What I don't like about it is 509 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,720 that clearly there's a lot of silence between them, and that 510 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,760 doesn't go well with me. Like, I don't believe in 511 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:47,280 silence. You've taught me a little bit 512 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:51,640 that silence isn't the worst thing in the world, but I just 513 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,320 feel like a situation like that, there's a lot going unsaid 514 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:55,760 between them. And I couldn't tell if it was 515 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,640 because they're on ATV show and they just didn't want to say 516 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,920 certain things or if that's the tack she's actually taking or 517 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:04,840 that they take with each other. Is that like, I'm going to tell 518 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,120 you this? I'm not going to say anything, 519 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,520 you know, I'm not going to say anything that's going to 520 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,240 dissuade you from telling me more. 521 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,040 Because what Mary was saying was very true, that like she 522 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:17,360 helicoptered so much that like she created, she feels she 523 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:19,520 created a situation where he can't let her down. 524 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:24,280 So obviously he comes in and he says, hey, I smoked weed today. 525 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,440 I know I'm not supposed to, but I did. 526 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:30,360 You know she probably wants to scream or something but doesn't 527 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:33,200 want to create a situation where he won't come back and tell her 528 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,680 what's going on. It's better to know what the 529 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:40,240 problem is than guess, right? Yeah, I also, I took her silence 530 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,920 as being very surprised and not knowing exactly how to react. 531 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,520 And also a little bit of what you're saying of not wanting to 532 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:49,480 say the wrong thing or like screaming at him, like, how 533 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:50,680 would you do that? You know? 534 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,720 She said earlier on in the episode that Robert Senior said 535 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,360 when he came back from rehab, they weren't going to babysit 536 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,280 him. And he's got to figure his way 537 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,720 out of this. And to extent, yes, he has to 538 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:07,760 help himself if he really wants help, if he wants to move on and 539 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,200 get beyond this addiction or live with the addiction because 540 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,320 you can't really get beyond it. But also too, he needs support 541 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,840 from his family. I don't know how many friends he 542 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,720 has or how I don't think we have any other family, right. 543 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,280 You know, Well, he was saying like his friends, he can't 544 00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,760 really be. That was really interesting to 545 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:30,360 me of the idea of you can't soothe yourself or do the same 546 00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:33,960 routines because that's bad, that's the addiction and you 547 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,960 can't hang out with friends you normally would who would support 548 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,480 you because they were the ones you used to party with, right? 549 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,080 So now you're just like stuck at home trying to be good and the 550 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:45,440 pressure. Then you relieve that by eating 551 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,000 a lot, right? And doing weed or probably the 552 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,520 weed let maybe leads to eating a lot with the munchies. 553 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,320 So that was really interesting. Interesting. 554 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,960 And that's why also people lean really hard into 12 step 555 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,560 programs, yeah, because they like don't have any other 556 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,400 support groups. So that's where they go. 557 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,000 And I'm sure you know, when you're his age, you're like, 558 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,520 well, I feel weird being in a support. 559 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,520 Group, right? Like that seems like something 560 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,360 older people go through and like, there's no place for him. 561 00:26:09,360 --> 00:26:11,000 There's got to be like a younger group. 562 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,360 Yeah, there, there surely is. But yeah, that's. 563 00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:18,200 You think that the rehab clique would give him These are places 564 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,800 you can go to once you leave here to they probably, yeah. 565 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,360 Yeah, I'm sure that they have, but at the. 566 00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:23,560 Same time. I mean, I still want to do it. 567 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,720 I you know the idea of going to any sort of support group. 568 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,080 Of strangers. Like even to this day, like I'm 569 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,080 a little bit more open to it now in my 40s because I'm just like, 570 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:38,320 well, life is weird, you know, like in my 20s and especially I 571 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,760 would have been like, no, I, I don't, I got this figured out, 572 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:43,200 you know, right. I'm not going to go tell a bunch 573 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,520 of I'm, you know, I would be a little too proud to do that. 574 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,680 But he doesn't. And like that's how you fall 575 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:49,840 again. And I just. 576 00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:52,920 The one, the one thing about, you know, him saying he's doing 577 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,480 weed and the one thing that like by no means, I don't know if 578 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,040 you're aware of this. I'm not an expert on addiction. 579 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,080 The one thing that I I resonates with me is that like, you know, 580 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,480 you can't let every set back be a failure. 581 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,240 You know it's. Just define you. 582 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,440 Right. It's just like you're going to 583 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,760 make mistakes since we're all learning what we're doing and 584 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,120 especially, you know, trying to get out from under, you know, 585 00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:19,960 addiction. You're going to have setbacks 586 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,160 and you know, just going to be something you know, you need to 587 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,600 account for and plan for. And just make sure you know when 588 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,440 it, when it happens, you pick yourself back up best you can, 589 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:30,600 you know. Yeah, it wasn't that long ago 590 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,480 that he was in rehab. So it's not, this is still very 591 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,520 fresh. He's still got a figure it out. 592 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:39,160 Two things about it though, I wonder like the way he kind of 593 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:43,640 casually said it was just like a lot of people don't see weed as 594 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,600 being an addictive thing or part of addiction or something that 595 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,240 leads to your addiction. So it's like the situation which 596 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:55,080 it's iffy because I get it like marijuana isn't necessarily 597 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,720 addictive, but like if you always smoked weed and then did 598 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,320 a bunch of heroin. Or cocaine or whatever, whatever 599 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:05,600 it is. Here to be like I'm high, you 600 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,160 know what sounds good right about now? 601 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,360 The other drug, you know, so that's very dangerous for sure. 602 00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:16,160 And so like, that's the people, the people that can have an 603 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,280 addiction and feel they can balance it. 604 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,760 And those that successfully do, I'm always like a little 605 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,520 apprehensive for them in that like, how long until this 606 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,680 escapes you? And that's just, you know, for 607 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,960 your own sake of not getting to the worst you've ever been 608 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,320 again, Like, I hope that that doesn't lead that way. 609 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,760 So like, I hope that they're not considering, well, I don't know. 610 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,760 I hope that they have a healthy relationship with whatever his 611 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,760 road to recovery is. And, you know, not for me to 612 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,080 judge. But the other thing, what did 613 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,040 Mary say? You just got to walk out of it. 614 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,360 Is that what she said? Isn't that what she said? 615 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,600 You gotta walk through it something like. 616 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,720 That, you know, I think she applies a lot of her sermons. 617 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,960 Yes, two things. And it's not always that cut and 618 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,120 dry, but you do, you know, it's nice to have like a little 619 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,280 motivating phrase, you know, for him, but there's a bit more to 620 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,920 it. But so then where do we get? 621 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,080 Is it get to the party? The The Socialite party. 622 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,720 The socialite, Amy. The socialite. 623 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,720 OK. Why did they make a big deal 624 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,440 about her if they weren't going to have her really on camera 625 00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,240 like she didn't have like. I feel like Amy doesn't want to 626 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,720 be on the show because maybe she is truly a socialite and. 627 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,640 But everyone at her party signed off on this. 628 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:31,880 Everyone was. Everyone signed a release. 629 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,440 There were no blurred faces. Everyone signed a release. 630 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,000 They all wanted to witness. Witness the circus for a night 631 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,920 but not be attached to it. My thought was they paid Amy to 632 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,960 host this. That production did is sort of 633 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,440 like a like a free day at college. 634 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,240 I feel production is a little cheaper than that. 635 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,480 No, I feel well. I mean not for not for a non 636 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,560 housewife. No, but I feel like they have to 637 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,520 rent an event space somewhere to do. 638 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,520 This no, when they when those girls when the full time 639 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,680 customers to a party that's out of pocket production doesn't pay 640 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,360 for that. So that was Amy's party. 641 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,600 She paid for it. I think she wanted oh. 642 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,040 Oh no, I agree with you. Amy paid for it, but I think 643 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,200 they probably someone paid her some money to be like hey, we'll 644 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:19,240 give you like 5 grand if you let us film there too and. 645 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,360 No, I think she agreed to it. I think she actually is friends 646 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,440 with some of them to a certain extent. 647 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,160 And I think, again, you know, you see it on TV. 648 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:33,440 She wanted it like no one would go into this, not an all cast 649 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,080 events having. Clearly everyone has watched the 650 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,720 show in that room. Everyone had watched the show. 651 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,160 They knew what was going to go down. 652 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,800 There's going to be some shit happening. 653 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:45,080 So they Amy was like, OK, I'll let this shit happen. 654 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,960 It'll be fun for my friends to like see it up close and 655 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120 personal, but then we can all have looks on our face like 656 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,440 these people. Feels like a trip to the reality 657 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,480 show zoo. Exactly. 658 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,560 And they can look down their noses at them like, Oh my God, 659 00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,680 how tacky Dick sucker. But you know, but. 660 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,840 See, but I feel like some of them, some of them, there's 661 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,480 definitely a benefit for the show. 662 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,320 They were laughing at them. But I don't know, not all of 663 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,520 them. A lot of them were. 664 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,720 There was a benefit to the show of some people going like, oh, 665 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,160 okay, this is what it's like. This isn't so bad. 666 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,160 And some people were snickering and being like, okay, you know. 667 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,840 I don't think any. I feel like they, they do a lot 668 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,880 of, or trying a lot of trying to cast for these shows. 669 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,400 So I'm sure they probably put out feelers to many of the women 670 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,200 in that room, right? But I feel a lot of them were 671 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,920 like hell no or their husband said hell no 'cause this is Salt 672 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,200 Lake. Salt Lake, you know. 673 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,120 I think this is a good, good chance for them to see what it's 674 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,480 about and be like, OK, maybe next time I'll say yes, that's 675 00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,880 what it's. Maybe it's possible, but I think 676 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,360 a lot of it was just like, it's a day at the zoo, Yeah, 677 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,480 basically. And Lisa gave them tacky 678 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,240 housewife. Anyone who says that Lisa, oh, 679 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,920 I'm sure there's so many people be like, oh, Lisa ate here. 680 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:01,760 She da da da. She had some great lines. 681 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,240 I didn't gasp a lot. I've seen that whole gout Dick 682 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,760 sucker in the trailer, but I wasn't expecting it. 683 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,280 I'd forgotten for a second. So when she said it, I was like, 684 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:14,640 Oh my God. But it was still tacky as fuck. 685 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,040 And the fact that she had to, I said fuck whatever. 686 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:20,600 It was an episode, episode. The fact that she had to go down 687 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,440 to that level, as you were saying earlier, down to the 688 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,320 gutter, proves you can't fight right, Right. 689 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,200 Also she couldn't stop saying it. 690 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,400 She's like oh gout Dick sucker. She said it 20 more times. 691 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,760 She worked on that, Yeah, she workshop that well. 692 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,560 And. From what Brahman was saying 693 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,000 yeah she prob Brahman said something five years ago about 694 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,960 probably made Brahman made the joke herself that like. 695 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,800 I made the joke about like Todd, I mean. 696 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,080 Old has gout and I have to suck his Dick. 697 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:53,440 It's probably something, she said, and then Lisa turned 698 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,240 around and used it on her. Five years. 699 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880 Later oh you're right, which I think she did mention his gout 700 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,400 last season too but let's can you wait sorry let's let's stop 701 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,760 here can you get gout in your Dick No, no OK, that's what I. 702 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:06,680 Thought well, I mean, you can get gout anywhere there's 703 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,440 inflammation of the joints. So right, there's no joints in 704 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,720 your Dick. I mean unless it counselor 705 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,960 connects, I don't know that joint joint. 706 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,080 I just love Whitney's. Like I didn't know I thought 707 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,640 gout was in the foot. Gout is typically in your feet, 708 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,600 in your like lower extremities, the way your blood pumps and 709 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:24,840 everything that has something to do with it. 710 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,080 My brother Adam has a lot of gout. 711 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,400 Oh that's fun. I mentioned gout but like about 712 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,800 him but. It made me think that maybe I 713 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,920 get the gout sometimes but I don't know. 714 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,920 I don't still have don't have enough body awareness. 715 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,280 To, but not your Dick. Your Dick is fine. 716 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,400 My Dick is great. So let's let's break down the 717 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,800 fight. We're not gonna cut that out. 718 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Yeah, your Dick is great. It's. 719 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,480 The breakdown to fight. Yes, basically. 720 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:54,280 Basically, Lisa comes into the party looking for the fight. 721 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,440 Bronwyn is also looking for the fight. 722 00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,200 Well, Heather promised her a fight, yes. 723 00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:01,320 So, I mean, Heather, Lisa was not wrong. 724 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,480 Yes. So basically. 725 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,520 So Lisa's confronting Angie, talking about Bronwyn. 726 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:08,360 Oh, no, no, no. Let's back it up. 727 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,880 A more freaking snitch, Brittany. 728 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,120 So then Bronwyn said da da da. And then Angie compared you to 729 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,159 Jen Shaw. Like Brittany? 730 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,560 Yeah. She's not gonna like you like 731 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,360 that. Just stop. 732 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,960 And you saw what happened when Bronwyn liked you for 5 minutes 733 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,920 last season, right? How well that went like you can 734 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,880 be tossed in the road and run over again. 735 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,280 So she. I liked how all the other women 736 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,480 were like, oh, they're talking about, oh, oh, she just said 737 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,440 like that, you know, wasn't that big. 738 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,920 It wasn't that big. Echoed it. 739 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,480 Echoed high heavens. Yeah, yeah. 740 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,920 So I'm sure they're all like, what? 741 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,520 What? So then she like Lisa is like 742 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,159 ready to attack Angie, who's and she's gotta get better at this. 743 00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:44,719 You know, she's like, well, well, let me explain. 744 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,239 And then Brown was like, no, no, no, no, it's about me. 745 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,400 And then for freaking Lisa to turn around like you're 746 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,880 dismissed like that elitist attitude. 747 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:57,680 We are all on the same damn show lady. 748 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,640 Like you cannot just dismiss me. We all getting paid. 749 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,880 I don't care if you are at Sundance with Blake and Ben, 750 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,040 what the fuck ever. We are all on housewives 751 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,360 together. So this attitude of I'm better 752 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,520 than you get. It's basically it's one step 753 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,400 like close to Britain. Who? 754 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:19,040 Vicky Gollinson saying get off my show. 755 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:21,920 Shut up, Lisa. Now, it'd be different if she, 756 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,480 Lisa, was talking to Brittany, because Brittany's just a friend 757 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,440 of Yeah, Brittany doesn't have the snowflake. 758 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,200 That's OK. We're all we're all for hazing 759 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,560 the friend. Rights like you can go now 760 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,040 you're not you only have a segment of the reunion I'm all 761 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,280 right forever full time right now there was bronwyn she should 762 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,920 have like stood back yes because she was again looking for the 763 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,560 fight right she came up to Lisa and said no, you want to fight 764 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,920 but but. Back up, back up, back up. 765 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:49,400 Yeah, So what was Angie doing? So Lisa came up and was trying 766 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,040 to have her have an own. Talk. 767 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,960 We knew talk and Angie was trying. 768 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,040 I was trying to, I would like to have seen where Angie was really 769 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,720 going to get with that. She was going to say basically 770 00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:02,960 saying, you know, I think she was eventually gonna apologize 771 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,640 for as she apologized at in the moment with the girls. 772 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,560 I should have said that, right? Yeah. 773 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,360 Yeah. And she was saying, you know, 774 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,360 all the losses, we're talking about it. 775 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,760 And then, you know, Jen, that like she was going to get there, 776 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:16,080 but she's thinking a while to get there. 777 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,360 She was making points, but not in a very quick fashion because 778 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,040 she's a. Little slow with that. 779 00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,440 Yeah, she's a little robotic. A little. 780 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,520 Bit. I am the outstanding citizen. 781 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600 It would have worked better on a one-on-one scene, right? 782 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,440 Like let me tell you, Lisa, why? I said. 783 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,600 I am so surprised that none of them, I thought Meredith, 784 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,600 Meredith tried to be like, well, maybe we should talk about that, 785 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,720 you know, together sometime because it's like, that room was 786 00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,480 so loud. Yeah, so. 787 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,880 So but yeah, you're right, I Angie would have apologized for 788 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,400 that, but I just don't know what her game plan was after that to 789 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:48,320 be like, well, we were talking about the lawsuits. 790 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,160 Like what was I going to say? They didn't exist like. 791 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,120 Right, right. But it was long for me to 792 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,120 compare Jin Sha. That I will agree. 793 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,520 She never should have brought Jin Shawn to it. 794 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,560 This totally. Also just kind of weak sauce of 795 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:01,400 a like someone who's not on the show shouldn't be brought up. 796 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,360 Just leave like no one wants to see Jin Shawn anymore. 797 00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,600 Actually, I want I shouldn't speak in absolute absolute. 798 00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,600 Andy Kohn doesn't see Jin Shawn anymore. 799 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,160 OK. And we don't and we don't. 800 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,280 Yeah, I don't need to see whatever. 801 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,800 So yes, so then Bronwyn inserts herself in the situation. 802 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,360 So yes, which? Isn't wrong. 803 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,720 Bronwyn was right for that to say, like, look, you're talking 804 00:37:19,720 --> 00:37:22,920 to everyone else about things that I was doing, yes. 805 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,640 So it's like, don't be blaming them. 806 00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,880 You're talking. About me to Heather right so and 807 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:32,240 now I'm here and now you want to dismiss me because at the end of 808 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:38,440 the day, much like Heather like sorry, Lisa knows how smart 809 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,480 Bronwyn is and like when you get into with her, she's going to 810 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,640 come at you just as hard like I'd like very intelligent I. 811 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,160 Like how Bronwyn had explanations to Heather about 812 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,280 like, well, I thought you guys were going to thought you were 813 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,960 going to be fine after the reunion and everything. 814 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,600 It's like, yeah, but Lisa. Kept going. 815 00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,840 Freaking Heather. Heather is aware of everything 816 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,160 that's going on in the housewife world. 817 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,040 Like, she is a like, a housewife and a fan. 818 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,920 She knew that Lisa was talking shit about Bronwyn online 24/7 819 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,640 after the reunion. But I think for her to be, like, 820 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,280 surprised, though, I don't understand. 821 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:11,320 I thought you want to be friends. 822 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,720 I wanted to be friends, Heather, until she started, like, talking 823 00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:15,320 me out. Yeah. 824 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,320 Yeah. And like, there was a resolution 825 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,520 after the reunion. But I love that Bronwyn was 826 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,600 present and able to say that. Like, yeah, I was willing to. 827 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,760 But then it never stopped. Like, I'm not going to sit down 828 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,920 and take it. And I'd be like, oh. 829 00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:30,600 Which is exactly what Heather does. 830 00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,400 Oh, Lisa, you're the best. Like. 831 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,280 But also, Heather does not like Bronwyn. 832 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,920 So she was like, sure, Lisa, go out, dog her out. 833 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,360 And then I'm surprised. Bron, why are you? 834 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,760 Don't gaslight. Heather was doing so much 835 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,360 gaslighting in that scene with Bronwyn. 836 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,760 I was like, just stop it, Heather. 837 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,160 You know what you're doing? You know what you're saying, 838 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,400 right? Stop. 839 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,560 We have the veneer. We're not. 840 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,960 We're seeing through the veneer like the veil is off. 841 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,600 We know who you are. You've proven that now for two 842 00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,120 seasons. Stop. 843 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,320 Do better, Heather. Again, I say it, do better. 844 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:03,840 We've. I'm back to the I love her, I 845 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:05,800 want her to do better. I do too. 846 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,960 I don't love her anymore. I like her. 847 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,160 But you know the love I felt for her in the first season? 848 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,600 No, she's no. So when someone shows you who 849 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,320 they really are, believe in the first time. 850 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,360 Anyways, So, yeah, back to the fight. 851 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,560 So yes, Ron Lynn, even though I wouldn't have gone this tack, 852 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,600 they're gonna say that she's thirsty and wanting to get 853 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,160 Lisa's attention. No, she's had some issues with 854 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,040 Lisa. So it does make sense in a sense 855 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,160 for her to like come at her and then Lisa claps back and then 856 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,720 they go start going at it. And then Lisa has to rely on 857 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:42,920 just the basis of things and calling her a gout Dick sucker. 858 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,680 And because that's all she oh, you didn't go to college. 859 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,120 Oh, you're dismissed And then calling her a pig. 860 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,720 You are now Monica Garcia. No. 861 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:54,120 I mean, I hate to say it as well, like, you know, when it 862 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,720 comes down to political rhetoric, you know, our 863 00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,360 commander in chief right now. That's how you fight. 864 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,880 That's how you fight, yes, Is you're like, oh, I don't have 865 00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,360 anything substantive to say, so I'm just going to call you a fat 866 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:05,640 pig. I'm going to start body shaming 867 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,960 you. I'm going to start, you know, 868 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,520 attacking your looks. I'm going to start. 869 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,360 Start imitating her. Oh, now you're going to think we 870 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,680 all know Bronwyn does the hair behind the ear, right? 871 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,240 Like thing like that's her thing. 872 00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:16,240 It's like probably a nervous. Threat of herself. 873 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,560 Yes, it's a nervous tick. So it just but like, again, it's 874 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,640 just when you have nothing else to rely on, you're going to. 875 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:22,880 Why? Do you want to decimate this 876 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:24,760 girl because you think she's a threat? 877 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,840 Anybody else like she like with Whitney, she's like whatever, 878 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,200 Whitney, you're trash. That's what Lisa's basically 879 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,120 said, right? And she said the same thing 880 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:34,480 about Heather. You're a good time girl, 881 00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:36,320 whatever in the past. Angie, you're this. 882 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,000 Meredith, you're that. You are this. 883 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,200 If I keep coming at you about things that are going on that 884 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,320 you're stressed out about in your life, you're not going to 885 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,480 sit down and take it. So from Lisa's perspective, 886 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,520 she's got to do something. But fight intelligently and 887 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,560 don't go for like the lowest of the low. 888 00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,440 Right, I was going to say like how, how could she handle it, 889 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,520 but I Rodman walking away is the way to handle that just being. 890 00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:59,440 Like whatever, walk away but it but it still she walked away 891 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,040 from episode 1 and now she's like I got to get back in there 892 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:03,280 but. Being like what? 893 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,840 But I think, you know, say what you will about Meredith. 894 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,000 Meredith disengages. And just like whatever I don't 895 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,080 need. It's not worth my time. 896 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:11,120 I'm not going to fight with you, right? 897 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:12,440 I'm not going to go into the gutter with you. 898 00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,720 Instead of being like, I dismiss you just being like whatever and 899 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:16,840 just. Dismiss yourself. 900 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,120 Exactly. I'm I can't with this 901 00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:20,680 conversation. Goodbye. 902 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,200 That's why Meredith, you know, when this all was going down, 903 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,960 she was like, I'm whatever, want to fight this out? 904 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,840 Not my fight. But yeah, just to like say those 905 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,640 things. It was just so gross. 906 00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,960 Like Ronwen's not a pig. She's not she's not someone who 907 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:36,360 needs to be dismissed like you are not. 908 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,240 This is not the Lisa Barlow show. 909 00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:40,720 I don't care. Yes, we did spend so many time, 910 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,520 so much time talking about her last episode. 911 00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:44,120 Whatever. She's a cast member. 912 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,520 Shit was going down there, all these lawsuits, you know, like 913 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:51,240 that's going to happen. So just, it just irritates me 914 00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:56,120 the feeling that Lisa can just like she has this idea that she 915 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,600 is so much better than that. Yes, the entitlement drives me 916 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,520 nuts. Entitlement drives everyone 917 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,600 nuts. But it's pretty with these 918 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,680 women. You're all on the same damn 919 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,640 level, right? Sundance Queen. 920 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:12,080 She isn't even in Utah anymore. Do you think do you think that 921 00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,000 she isn't in Utah? No, Sundance isn't going 922 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,640 elsewhere because they did it to themselves. 923 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,400 They did, but still sad there was a lot of economy for Utah. 924 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,400 It is, but you did it to yourself. 925 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,800 Right. Do you think that there's a way 926 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,320 that Lisa could have responded intelligently about the 927 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:31,520 lawsuits? No, because she goes for 928 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,960 emotion, she goes for fake crying, she goes to the lowest 929 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:37,440 low even we see in the next episode that with the trailer, 930 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,400 she's just, you know, with her big whiteboard of like, you're 931 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,480 all wrong and I'm right. And she just gets so aggressive, 932 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,880 which also makes me think then you doff protest too much. 933 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,320 Yeah. And there is something to these 934 00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,480 lawsuits. So if there was nothing to it, 935 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,760 like whatever, get off my Dick. See, that's kind of, again, I 936 00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:59,360 hate, you know, when it comes to, like, Beverly Hills. 937 00:42:59,360 --> 00:43:03,160 Everything Erica was going through, Erica wasn't vehemently 938 00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,480 defending herself from all the accusations. 939 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,120 Well, she that was a different case because she couldn't, but 940 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,280 that was about Tom and she would have made herself look guilty if 941 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,160 she had talked about. But the same thing Lisa could 942 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,720 take, the same thing. These are open lawsuits, the 943 00:43:15,720 --> 00:43:18,680 same thing Karen did on Potomac. Right. 944 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,320 These are it's that too. I'm not going to talk about it. 945 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,520 I'm going to let the justice system figure it out. 946 00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,640 And see. Takes the High Road, but she's 947 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,240 so. That girl couldn't find the High 948 00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:32,240 Road GPS like no, no she's not. Who is it? 949 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,400 I wrote Heather Dubrow. She's not Heather Dubrow. 950 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:36,960 Heather Dubrow would never say gout Dick sucker. 951 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:38,560 Heather Dubrow is classy. Lisa. 952 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,640 I don't know. I think Heather Dubrow would say 953 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,280 it, but only once. Not I can't run and she wouldn't 954 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,360 call someone a pig. She'd have a pinky race when she 955 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:48,280 did it though, so it'd be classy, yeah. 956 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,360 But she wouldn't say these things in that manner. 957 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,280 It just really grossed me out. It just no. 958 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,440 I agree. With you. 959 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,040 I agree so but no I love that Bronwyn stood her ground and 960 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,360 just like kept going back like no you got those lawsuits. 961 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,280 No does John know about this? Like she kept making points that 962 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,040 Lisa couldn't. No that's lying it's lies 963 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,280 they're just lying gout blah blah blah. 964 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,160 Like that's all Lisa had When Bronwyn was spitting facts, Lisa 965 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,880 was just spitting insults and one was losing her composure, 966 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,880 drinking, guzzling her drink. And Ron was like, it doesn't 967 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,120 matter how loud loud you yell, Lisa, it's not going to go away. 968 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,120 So I like Ronald for that. It was a great approach and I 969 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,960 think she handled it quite well. Yeah, I mean, I don't think, you 970 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,760 know, I don't think there's. How would they be friends after? 971 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,440 This you can't be friends anymore after this Yeah, I mean, 972 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,400 it's not like said, you know, I think it's. 973 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,480 Will we see them by the end of the season? 974 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,640 You know why they can't be rinsing anymore or why Because I 975 00:44:46,640 --> 00:44:48,600 was thinking about like, you know, I'll shut them down with 976 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,400 Heather and Lisa. At the end of the day, Heather, 977 00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,000 no matter how hard they were fighting, still wanted Lisa's 978 00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,920 approval as she has shown because she's moved on past all 979 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,840 that crap that Lisa did to her and now she's cool with her. 980 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,760 Bronwyn, I think, saw the light and was like, it doesn't matter 981 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,680 what I say, this woman is going to like. 982 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,160 I still think Bronwyn wants the approval or else why would she 983 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,360 be like putting herself? In here on a show. 984 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,600 OK, that's what I don't think she. 985 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:19,400 I think she is. No, it's like she said to 986 00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,760 Heather. I wanted to move forward, but 987 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,040 then she kept coming at me aggressively online. 988 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:27,680 So now I realize I can't. Bronwyn had that aha moment that 989 00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,560 Heather never did. So I think that's the 990 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,480 difference. And I don't think they they 991 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,040 could maybe coexist, you know, I mean, but it's never going to be 992 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,280 the same if they were truly friends. 993 00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,320 Are we going to see them like having a girls night out like in 994 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,040 whatever girls trip they go on this season? 995 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,640 Like, oh, we're having so much fun, the two of them. 996 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,040 No, no, I don't think so. I mean, you know, things can 997 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,520 happen. You know, who would have thought 998 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,480 that narrative would have been able to forgive Lisa for that 999 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,880 tirade And just heard? That tirade on TikTok because 1000 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,680 they try to sell the mugs that have it written. 1001 00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:03,560 In there. I thought of buying you that, 1002 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:07,840 but I mean, I don't need the, I don't need that profanity from 1003 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,480 Lisa Barsa. That was really, really, really, 1004 00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,760 really. Again, so low. 1005 00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:16,320 Yeah, she's fucked up. Half of New York, probably. 1006 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:19,280 True though. But also, if I was married, if I 1007 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,600 couldn't get past, you know, the things you said about my 1008 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,640 husband, the things about you said about my family, that we're 1009 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:26,120 all posers. Yeah, we will about me, but we 1010 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:29,280 bring my kids into it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. 1011 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,120 We are done. We're just coworkers. 1012 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,280 We can coexist. But I will always keep my eye on 1013 00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,760 you because you are a shady person. 1014 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:38,840 No. So. 1015 00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,680 But again, it's housewives. Got to resolve, got to move 1016 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,360 forward. But I I would not. 1017 00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:45,840 I would not understand. So. 1018 00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:47,120 So, yeah. I don't see. 1019 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,920 I don't. I think the path is whatever we 1020 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,480 can be in the same room together, but we're not gonna 1021 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:58,120 talk, you know, I think cuz as Todd says in the previous for 1022 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,560 next week, why would she want to be friends with her? 1023 00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:05,000 Like just no, no. Yeah, that's unforgivable, you 1024 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,960 know, Well. I mean, I, I have to imagine 1025 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,760 again that no matter how awful it is, like, you know, I have 1026 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,520 friends that I don't talk to right now that I, you know, wish 1027 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,840 we were good friends and I know how good it was. 1028 00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,120 And you know they're still there somewhere, even though if 1029 00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,880 there's complete pieces of shit now. 1030 00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,040 It's two things. One, how deep was that 1031 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,960 friendship really between Bronwyn and Lisa? 1032 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,640 And two, Lisa I don't think will ever truly apologize and take 1033 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:32,520 accountability for the nasty things she's done or said to 1034 00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,040 Bronwyn. So if you don't have that, that 1035 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,880 if Bronwyn's willing to move on, but you're not, Yeah, sure you 1036 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,360 got. I'm trying to think back and 1037 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,320 think of anything that Lisa's taking accountability for that's 1038 00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,880 like substantial and I don't, I can't recall. 1039 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,440 It I mean, I'm sure she did. And she did apologize to 1040 00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,080 Meredith about the tirade because it they at the reunion 1041 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:57,040 that year and she's, you know, gone to a better place at one 1042 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,000 point with Whitney and with Heather and whatever I didn't 1043 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,720 like Whitney tried to like bust in. 1044 00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:04,080 And Lisa was like, no, no, no, no, no, not even having that. 1045 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,720 No, you know, again, so dismissive. 1046 00:48:07,720 --> 00:48:10,360 It's just so irritating, so irritating. 1047 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,440 Agreed. Irritated. 1048 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:14,800 We have topped the wheels off of this. 1049 00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,000 Yeah, I think we mentioned everybody. 1050 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,120 I think we have no, I said. We could probably go on for a 1051 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,240 while because. They should be spinning our 1052 00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:21,840 wheels. Right. 1053 00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,680 And we don't need to do that, but it's a good episode. 1054 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:30,200 It was a good episode number. 2. Yes, that's thing with I mean, 1055 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,480 we'll see how the season goes, but last season proved there was 1056 00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:36,800 no filler with Salt Lake, so I hope this will be the same thing 1057 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,760 of just nonstop good episodes. Agreed. 1058 00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,240 Yeah well there wouldn't be a husbands watching housewives 1059 00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:45,480 episode if we didn't comment on how hot it is up here. 1060 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,400 So with all the. Drinking game. 1061 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,720 Yeah, I'm out of beer. So yeah, get another one. 1062 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,920 Follow us on all the socials. 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