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Welcome to the episode of 
Husbands Watching Housewives. 

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I'm Scott. 
And I'm Jack. 

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And we just watched an episode 
of The Real Housewives of Salt 

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Lake City. 
Yes. 

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We did. 
It was, I don't know how. 

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How could you call this anything
other than a filler episode, 

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right? 
Yeah, not a lot really happened.

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No, but I guess we had updates 
on things. 

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I think we just like, you know, 
rather than wrap up that fight 

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and at the clarity lunch they at
last week, they put it in the 

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top of this week and they got to
a good place. 

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And then there's a thing else to
do because there wasn't another 

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big event until next week. 
So it was more just individual 

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scenes and with family or, you 
know, two housewives like 

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Whitney and Brittany and is 
explaining things then, but not 

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a lot of actions like a lot of 
like talking about things. 

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Yes, a lot of I guess it was 
because Heather broke her peace 

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at the at the end of that 
Clarity lunch and then everyone 

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felt like all kumbaya up in the 
moment. 

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Yeah, at in the moment though, I
mean, well before she even got 

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there, it was, you know, Angie 
and Lisa going back and forth 

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about like franchises and what I
don't understand why Lisa's 

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feels the need to go after 
someone's business. 

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I guess because they she feels 
that they went after her and and

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whatnot, but just to say 
throughout things that she 

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doesn't know to be for a fact to
be true in order to get 

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someone's goat and get a 
reaction. 

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And then it does, it deflects 
from the moment the the what's 

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actually happening, which is 
talking about her situation. 

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But it's a stupid way, but it 
does. 

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She knows how to get them riled 
up and switched to a different 

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topic aside from her legal 
issues. 

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So, you know, good for her that 
she can figure that out. 

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But it's just, you know, I wish 
Andy Angie hadn't taken the 

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bait, you know, And but yeah, 
just the whole the about her 

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store and they're like, it goes 
into like, you know, the product

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that that I bet doesn't even 
like exist anywhere, right. 

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You know, I doubt she was out 
like heavily promoting wolf, Bad

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Wolf. 
Where the hell goes? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, I think it was, I think 

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it was actually kind of smart of
Angie to bring up. 

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I mean, I hate that it's 
associated with the kids line 

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the kids, because I think that 
was fair game. 

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Like, hey, instead of, you know,
worrying about all this stuff, 

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why aren't you out promoting the
brands you do have? 

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Like, you know, we put people 
invested in this. 

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Your time would be better spent 
doing that than doing this 

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stupid sign thing behind you. 
I think yeah, she had said done 

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that when maybe not called it C 
level and then because they're 

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they're ones like Oh no, now 
you're talking bad about her 

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child. 
It's like, no, it's about the 

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kids product. 
I also don't think that Jack is 

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like, you know, so devastated 
that his product's being talked 

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about because he doesn't really 
give a crap. 

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Right, right. 
Well, he's also on his. 

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Mission, Yeah, so. 
Yeah, he's not worrying about 

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the sales of his product from 
two years ago. 

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That was so long ago. 
I remember that they did that 

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photo shoot and yeah. 
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Can we, I mean, can we talk 
about Heather and like whatever 

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that speech was like, I don't 
know that that was like, I don't

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think it was like the most 
amazing speech ever, but it was 

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so, so full of herself, almost 
like, you know what I mean? 

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Full of herself. 
We're talking about Lisa. 

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Just about the whole situation, 
like she just seemed like she 

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was going to be the one to bring
everyone together and like, you 

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know, that she was going to say 
something that finally got 

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through to everyone, you know 
what I mean? 

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It's the way of being the voice 
of reason, basically, and 

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something you need to be said to
stop the fighting and because it

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wasn't productive, but also 
like, you know, we're talking 

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about vulnerability and you're a
fierce. 

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I thought it was more bullshit 
of like Lisa saying I love 

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everyone here and we've I fight 
so hard because I love you so 

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hard. 
And it's like, I don't really 

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believe that anymore because 
people you brought onto this 

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show who you say you love so 
much, you really done so much to

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decimate them. 
You know, being, you know, we're

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first Angie and now Bronwyn, so 
I know, and then Owen Meredith 

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too, like Kirsten was a best 
friend. 

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You know, I if anything, I 
wouldn't want to be Lisa's best 

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friend or like seek that 
friendship because ultimately 

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one day she'll flip on you and 
like eviscerate you. 

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And that's I would rather just 
be like, let's keep it surface 

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level. 
See, at the party, Kiss, kiss. 

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Yeah. 
But I'm not going to, like give 

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you anything that you can use as
ammunition against me down the 

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line. 
It's it's the Arsenal that that 

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all the franchises speak of. 
Yeah, Margaret's Arsenal, 

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Tamra's Arsenal, all this. 
Stuff, at least with Margaret's 

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arsenal, Margaret is like 
actually good with words and you

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know, can you know, it's she's 
really quick and she doesn't 

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just shout out like she's dug up
actual facts and then throw at 

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you from her arsenal. 
At least it's just like, yeah, 

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you own 1.5. 
That's a good number 1.5. 

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That's how many that's. 
Gonna get her good. 

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You don't even like own total 
half. 

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It's just one point. 
Total hole. 

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It's just one point. 
Yeah, yeah, you get the. 

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Gist I get the gist I I did like
I I wish it made more sense. 

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Angie's comeback of like you. 
You do French fries, I do 

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franchise. 
Well, she's talking about her 

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Wendy's deal. 
All right. 

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Yes. 
Things I'm too. 

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Smart. 
Yeah. 

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So that's what she meant. 
Like you do your Wendy's thing. 

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I'm like, have all these stores.
Yeah, like don't. 

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I'll worry about how I make my 
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and don't own. 
You do your thing. 

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I get it. 
And that. 

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Makes that was. 
That's why Mayor is like, oh, 

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that's good. 
I I mean, so giving Heather a 

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little bit of credit that like 
at least she did say, I think 

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the one thing that rang through 
to me was like, you guys just 

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aren't fun to be around. 
Like this is just tiresome. 

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And like you know who no ones 
going to want to do any of this 

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if you keep acting like this 
like we got to bring. 

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It back yeah. 
It's like the same the same 

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fight going around in circles at
one point, you know at least 

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Brown was like I I'm going to 
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even Whitney was like I need to 
remove myself in the situation 

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calm down then come back to the 
table and not ring her neck. 

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Yeah, so I like her whole she's 
like a toddler just got to wear 

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herself out. 
And it's true. 

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She like flipped out, did a lot 
of gestures and then she's like,

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OK, but I, I love you guys so 
much and I left hard and I fight

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hard. 
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And I got frustrated. 
No R frustrated. 

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I this again, I don't these sort
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and just she's declaring how 
vulnerable she is and all that 

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stuff like, oh, all of a sudden 
I'm going to say all the things 

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that you want me to say. 
So here I'm saying them. 

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And then what good did that do 
them the very next day or the 

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next week, whatever. 
She ends up sending her 

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assistant down to Andrew's. 
Store so that's the weird thing 

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skipping heaven and go back. 
They were in not like a good 

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place where they were like oh I 
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We fight so hard. 
Whatever. 

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Let's have a cheers. 
And then she must have thought 

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about it and was like, you know 
what? 

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I don't like what she said about
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So I'm going to get that product
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say like, I'm done with you 
taking my product back, but will

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now be on my dusty show. 
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And also like the fact that she 
didn't understand, like, it's 

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dusty because it's in the back. 
No one's. 

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Yeah, purchased it. 
And to make. 

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That the store is dusty. 
It's the product is dusty, Yeah.

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I'm sure she knows that but 
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say like I can send my clean. 
Shade here's my her sidebar. 

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Her assistant is so pretty yeah 
yes Sage. 

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I think that's why she has a job
because she's pretty. 

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I don't know about how she does 
with typing or whatever or tasks

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but like. 
I'm sure she's wonderful at 

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that. 
But yeah, but first and 

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foremost, I, you know, I didn't 
even register how pretty she 

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was. 
Very pretty, pretty gal, as 

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Angie said, is. 
That what Angie said. 

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I love Angie uses like old 
school phrases like I'm a pillar

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of the community, like she's I'm
a 60s housewife, that gal. 

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So yeah, I didn't I. 
Just noticed that she kind of 

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was like, I don't know when she 
said, yeah, I'm here to pick up 

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the stuff. 
Like it was just, it just seemed

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very kind of like. 
I love like the reaction of like

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Sean and Angie like excuse. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Oh, OK, that like and but again,
Angie never asked for any of 

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that, you know, and so for just,
it's the worst passive 

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aggressive thing that Lisa could
have done. 

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But again, it's like, we were 
fine. 

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And so why? 
What? 

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Between then and now? 
Who riled you up to the point 

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where you weren't fine maybe? 
Or did it like just ruminate in 

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your head and you're like, no. 
Maybe she went home and actually

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had a talk to with with John 
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believe should say that. 
Maybe he riled. 

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Her No John Barley can't roll up
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John Barley couldn't spell roll 
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Ohh John Bartlett not saying 
he's dumb I was saying he's just

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so passive got it. 
And he sucks at parking but like

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he's just. 
Can we talk about the parking? 

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Why is why is everything about 
Salt Lake showing everyone 

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coming up? 
It's like it's parking on Salt 

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Lake. 
It's like a slow MO walk on 

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Atlanta. 
I don't understand what's going 

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on. 
I don't need to see you arrive 

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at the event. 
I just, I'm just, you got the 

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event, I'm good. 
I don't need to see like how far

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away from the curb you are. 
Right on Potomac they do show 

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everyone driving up and like 
they're. 

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The G Wagon, not all that, yeah.
Exactly. 

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The the whole maneuver is what's
being captured in Salt Lake, and

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so that is it is. 
It's like they strike gold of 

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that one time with John Barlow, 
and they're like, we need to do 

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this every time. 
No. 

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And let's say, like, parking 
perpendicular to the curve. 

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No, not really. 
You don't need to show it all 

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the time. 
But yeah, I didn't understand. 

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And then I think it was funny 
showing the, like, hearing the 

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retelling of back and forth, 
Lisa and Angie, and having 

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Heather's reaction as the 
audience be like, Oh my God, she

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said that like, yeah, it's just 
so. 

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Yeah. 
Do you? 

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I feel like I'm jumping ahead 
again to Angie and Meredith 

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meeting. 
So I mean do. 

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You we can keep on Angie track. 
Yeah, I mean, I think the Angie 

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track's a good one to be on 
because like that's she got the 

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most through lines, I think. 
I I the thing, I don't think 

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that that's why this is a filler
episode, because that was their 

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like, ending of like, whoa, 
what's going to happen? 

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And she told Meredith that like 
Lisa was like trying to push her

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to talk smack about Meredith. 
I'm like, that's a really crappy

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ending. 
Yeah, it was pretty, yeah. 

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But I mean, I think it was a 
little bit much for, I mean, I 

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guess I liked it though. 
That's my problem with it is I 

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like that Angie was purposely 
stirring shit with Meredith and 

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especially, well, you know, I'm 
going to have to talk to her 

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about this. 
Oh yeah, Yeah, I do it. 

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Yeah. 
She. 

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Absolutely. 
Simply put me on that. 

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Yeah. 
She was so. 

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Made of it. 
Do you need to record this so 

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you can like get it right? 
OK. 

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Like Angie was suddenly a 
transcript. 

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My problem is that I feel like 
it's going to end up being, even

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though there will be some drama 
that comes out of it, it's going

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to end up being, well, that was 
three years ago or that was so 

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many years ago and then it's 
water under the bridge now. 

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You know that's. 
Sort of. 

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But as Meredith said, we were in
a fine place, she and Lisa. 

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Why was she encouraging someone 
to not be in a good place with 

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her and to dig up dirt on her? 
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Lisa's just going to deny it. 
Meredith will give her the 

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benefit of that because she's 
like known her longer than Angie

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and she and Angie have had more 
issues than she and Lisa as 

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Although again, I won't forget 
anyone for calling me a whore 

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and saying I screwed half from 
New York and talking about my 

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family. 
But but whatever, Meredith. 

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But Lisa didn't actually call 
Bronwyn a whore, She just 

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suggested that she has sex for 
money. 

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That's not at all what a whore 
is whatsoever. 

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Does she not know the definition
of whore or sex worker? 

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Because that's what she 
basically used. 

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Like I. 
Just I, Yeah, you. 

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Yeah, you're get you're getting 
to the same final destination 

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there of someone who has sex for
money. 

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Like whether you use these words
or not, you were suggesting that

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your friends are doing that, so 
your. 

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Married friend. 
And you're trying to. 

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Weaponize to make it a bad thing
for money. 

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Yeah, so she can buy sweaters or
Christian Siriano dresses. 

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Yes, that she actually buys 
whatever good for. 

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Yes, you wanted to go to the 
whole Lisa Bronwyn. 

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Well, I figure it's a good place
to go. 

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That, or we have to talk about 
Bronwyn and Muzzy. 

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We'll get there. 
Can we make it a drinking game 

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where every time she says Muzzy,
you gotta chew out a drink? 

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Muzzy Wuzzy was a. 
Mother. 

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She's a mother. 
All right, shut your mouth. 

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No. 
So it was a good conversation. 

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I'm glad Lisa finally took some 
accountability and actually 

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apologized, because lots of 
times people just apologize to 

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Lisa. 
Whether they stay in this good 

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place. 
I doubt it. 

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Maybe a couple episodes. 
I think it's a little bit cheap 

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though that I mean, I understand
why, like she had a reason or 

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excuse to do it, but I, I think 
it's a little cheap that she did

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it one-on-one and not in front 
of the other women. 

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I think they had to do that way 
because two people will jump in.

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I get it, but I. 
Gets lost in the song. 

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I wanted, I wanted the the 
entire crew to see Lisa 

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apologizing. 
Well, they'll she knows they'll 

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see it when they watch the I. 
Suppose. 

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I suppose. 
But yeah, I think it was good. 

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It would gotten too muddled and 
people would have dropped, 

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jumped in and you know, Britt. 
Brittany would have had an 

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announcement. 
Right. 

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Someone would have, like, hyped 
up Bronwyn. 

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Somebody would have hyped up 
Lisa. 

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Yeah. 
So now they had a conversation. 

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They, like, apologized. 
They actually hurt each other, 

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you know, admitted they hurt 
each other purposely or or not 

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on purpose and could start in a 
better place for now because it 

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will not last, just like Lisa 
and Angie, I'm sure, especially 

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when the Bronwyn stuff comes out
about her legal issue from the 

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past, you know, I'm sure Lisa 
will be leaving the charge on 

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that. 
So, but I'm glad that for just 

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this one moment, this one 
segment, Lisa took some 

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accountability because Bronwyn 
already has and you know, but 

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she gave a sincere apology. 
That's the difference. 

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I feel like Broadland is a 
sincere person. 

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And I think a realistic apology 
that she said, like, look, we're

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not going to be best friends, 
da, da, da. 

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But like, I'm not going to say 
these things moving forward. 

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Yeah, she set a very clear like 
goal of this is how I'm going to

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behave towards you. 
Husbands are off limits. 

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Grace are off limits, right? 
Yeah. 

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Which seems to be the they 
should just be handed that like 

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on a card when they get hired. 
Husbands are off limits. 

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Children are off limits. 
The thing is, husbands are not 

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off limits. 
Typically that's true, but kids 

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they must be because they they 
didn't ask to like be pulled 

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into this, right? 
Right. 

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So yeah, that was fine. 
Yeah, I guess we should need to 

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talk about Muzzy and. 
Well, we should go to Whitney 

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and Brittany. 
Oh, that. 

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Was in the plant store, right? 
I don't think you understand 

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what you're saying. 
It's your daughter, Brett. 

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Put down the cactus. 
That could have gone two 

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different ways. 
I mean, that kind of really 

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gone. 
Brittany could have. 

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And I'm wondering if she still 
might be like, you know, you 

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were really insinuating them a 
bad mother. 

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How dare you? 
That could take it that way and 

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express it that way, but Britt 
Whitney wasn't. 

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He was doing everything except 
calling her a bad. 

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She would through extra special 
care to not call her SO. 

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It was incredulous that Brittany
could be thinking about anything

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else aside from making it good 
with her daughter, you know? 

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And so who cares about Jared? 
You had a not so great 

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relationship with your daughter.
She's giving you a chance. 

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You should go along with that. 
So because it's your daughter 

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and that matters more than this 
dude who like sometimes is your 

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is your boyfriend, sometimes 
odd, sometimes you're engaged. 

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So it was just like, it makes 
sense. 

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But and and the Brittany's like 
seem to be thinking it's really 

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hard to make this choice. 
And I'm like, it's really not 

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because if she and Jared had a 
real solid relationship, I could

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see it being difficult. 
Like, oh, my daughter isn't like

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my significant other because it 
happens all the time, you know, 

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But it's not, it's very shaky 
their their relationship. 

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It always has been. 
So it just makes more sense to 

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choose your child all think we 
don't know the details though 

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that because she's just a friend
of and we don't get all the like

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what is happening? 
Why did you fall out? 

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You know, as it always have you 
always shows in men over your 

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daughter what happened with your
ex-husband. 

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It's just we need more details 
in order. 

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But it just for for Whitney, it 
was just like a girl, no? 

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Yeah, Like, this shouldn't, this
should not even be a 

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conversation. 
Exactly. 

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But I mean, I can see to an 
extent that, like, the most 

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serious thing, like the only 
place that Brittany can see 

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herself being in a serious 
relationship is with Jared. 

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It's not like she can like, 
close her eyes and be like, oh, 

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the likelihood of me being with 
anyone else is as strong as 

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Jared. 
So I can think in her mind, 

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she's like, I'm going to end up 
with Jared. 

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Like if I end up with anybody, 
you know? 

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And so it's kind of the thing 
where it's like they're going to

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have to get used to it, but at 
the same time, I don't think 

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that they're there right now to 
be able to say you have to get 

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used to it. 
Right. 

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I also like to have the ages of 
her daughters because that would

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give context as well, you know, 
like are these like angry 

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teenagers or are they a little 
bit older? 

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I. 
I think they're grown. 

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I want to say I. 
Feel like because Whitney said 

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something about grown, but then 
and then the trip, well, group 

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trip last year, I remember 
Brittany saying something like 

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she brought up like, oh, so and 
so did great, like we're talking

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again. 
And I thought maybe she's 

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something like a math. 
She did great on her in studies 

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in school. 
Maybe she's in college. 

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College could be OK. 
We'll look that up or we don't. 

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We'll just say that we do. 
Yeah, we need to do that. 

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The other thing that happened 
with Whitney was the stripper 

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pole getting reinstalled and 
reminiscing going down stripper 

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pole memory lane with. 
Also, as you said, like she is, 

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you know, once the dam open or 
broke, she was like every 

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episode my failed business 
failed. 

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Yeah, let's talk about our 
failed business. 

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And now God's giving me a chance
to bloom elsewhere with my 

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flower since it failed. 
Yeah, he really is wanting to 

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take accountability for her. 
Her failed. 

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I am Opus and odd. 
Like she was like let me show 

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you some bad checks. 
Like let me. 

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Here's some. 
Here's some red ink from every 

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PNL for the last night. 
You know, nine months. 

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Yeah, she was really. 
Really. 

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Yeah, wanting to owning it, like
even Lisa Arena would be like, 

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you've owned it, girl, it's OK. 
Let someone else own something 

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for a little while. 
Right, yeah. 

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So I when she said though, like,
you know, I need to go back, 

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like stay the course. 
I'm like, so what's the course 

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now? 
Like where, you know, I think 

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though I heard that she is 
bringing it back the whatever. 

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So I think I I don't know. 
I was, I was going to say maybe,

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maybe she's making such a big 
deal about it failing. 

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So she can be like, well, and 
that's why we're filing 

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bankruptcy for the business, you
know, because it failed 

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miserably. 
And then they can get a fresh 

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start, which is what bankruptcy 
is supposed to be for, if that 

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is indeed happening or you know,
maybe it's in case there's 

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something comes up about the 
alleged MLM and, and all that 

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about. 
Ohh right, she can. 

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Do you know about? 
Yeah, I knew this was a failure.

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MLM's don't work and. 
It failed, yes. 

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It does. 
You had said something and I 

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didn't pounce on it quickly 
enough to make a good segue into

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Mary sitting in the church. 
Oh, I forgot about Mary. 

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Yes. 
That whole conversation, I 

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understand that they were 
reiterating a lot of things that

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we kind of already knew. 
Or had heard or heard about or 

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wasn't. 
So basically the through line 

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was Mary got to church after her
grandmother died. 

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Her mother wanted to contest 
that she was removed from the 

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church by police at one point, 
stopped talking to Mary, 

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allegedly put out horrible 
stories in the press about Mary,

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and then most recently died. 
And so Mary, while, you know, 

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sad about her mother dying, you 
know, they obviously weren't 

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close. 
And it's almost like this 

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chapter's closed and maybe a bit
of relief that that energy isn't

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out there anymore, you know, but
also sad because it's your mom. 

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So I think that was. 
Right. 

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Yeah, that seemed to be about 
right. 

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I I did enjoy that. 
Cousin was his Big Bob. 

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George. 
Big Jim. 

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Big Jim, Big Joe Big. 
Joe. 

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I think Big Joe is like, 
sometimes Mary would say 

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something, he'd be called. 
He'd be like, yeah, uh huh. 

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He had. 
No, he didn't. 

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He didn't really know how to 
respond. 

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Right. 
Because he's like, yeah, you are

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saying the thing that we know 
happened. 

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But the audience is a no so 
audience. 

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This happened. 
So, but yeah, I didn't know that

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she that her church. 
I mean, I thought that she just 

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wasn't being part of like the 
church. 

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I remember. 
Like there was something where 

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it closed and that was well, 
it's we we don't know all the 

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because she wasn't on the show 
right Time capacity. 

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So we didn't get like the what 
exactly happened? 

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It may. 
Have been why she wasn't so she 

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wouldn't have to have that on 
the show. 

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Well, that's why she didn't go 
met with the reunion that year, 

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right? 
Her second year, because she 

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didn't want to talk about it. 
Because that's. 

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Yeah. 
Or Lisa brought that guy on the 

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show and then he mysteriously 
died. 

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Yeah. 
And. 

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That was, yeah, that whole it. 
Was being called a cult. 

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Yes. 
And what did she say? 

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The Heather and Palm Springs, 
what they call me a a 

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perversion. 
Yeah, I know a pornography. 

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Yeah. 
And she what was the word I? 

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Don't even remember. 
Now what was that? 

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Predator. 
Predator, yeah. 

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No, it was like it was Predator.
It was Heather like throat like 

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so sick. 
It's like, yeah, yeah, Predator.

450
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,600
I remember that. 
But yeah, it's weird because 

451
00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,160
Mary makes it seem like through 
that whole scene that like, oh, 

452
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,840
we were just closed for 
remodeling. 

453
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,800
I've had Big Joe, you know, 
working right, working on the 

454
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,240
pews for the last year and. 
Also, I'm sorry, every time you 

455
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,920
see a Big Joe, I think a big 
John from from golf, the wind, 

456
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,040
it's it's. 
Well, we'll just start calling 

457
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,320
him Mary's cousin just to 
prevent Joe confusion. 

458
00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,560
Joe So. 
But yeah, it's just like, no, 

459
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,960
girl, there was a scandal 
surrounding your church and, you

460
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,720
know, that was a focus of, you 
know, the reason why we didn't 

461
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,480
really instill. 
It's hard to, like you were 

462
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,600
saying, it's hard to kind of 
latch on to Mary being this 

463
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,800
queen of the one liners when, 
you know, in the back there's 

464
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,880
this kind of cloudy, you know, 
there's always this. 

465
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,880
Reputation. 
The thing is, we didn't 

466
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:55,000
necessarily like Mary that much,
you know, when in the first 

467
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,920
couple of seasons and now she's 
enjoyable, she's funny, and I 

468
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,360
like relationship with Angie, 
although that seems to hit a 

469
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:04,640
bump next week. 
But at the back, yes, in the 

470
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,800
back of your mind you're 
thinking, but there's nothing, 

471
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,400
not nothing. 
There's something not quite 

472
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,200
right about her situation. 
Be at the husband, be at the 

473
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,120
church, the alleged cults of it 
all. 

474
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,120
But seeing that now she's trying
to have us believe that her 

475
00:23:19,120 --> 00:23:21,160
mother planted all these 
stories, which. 

476
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,920
Oh, right, which? 
Right, I would say that like a 

477
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,000
lot of. 
She's dead, so she can't test 

478
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:28,920
this. 
A lot of the stories if her, a 

479
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,920
lot of those stories they 
referred to just seem to be the 

480
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,840
regurgitation of facts and kind 
of making the situation between,

481
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:38,200
you know, the fact that Mary 
married her step grandfather. 

482
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,160
Like just kind of pointing out 
this is something that's true 

483
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,360
and isn't it gross? 
And even even Mary would say 

484
00:23:44,360 --> 00:23:46,800
like, yeah, it's something 
strange, but like, you know, 

485
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:49,080
unusual but. 
There's my grandmother's wishes.

486
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,440
Yes. 
And, you know, it's come with 

487
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,760
its own set of pros and cons, 
you know? 

488
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,680
Right. 
She didn't. 

489
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,680
Yeah. 
So anyway, I don't want to start

490
00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,560
speaking for Mary by any means, 
but it was an interesting scene.

491
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:01,800
Very much so. 
Way too long. 

492
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,160
Yeah, and then they're going to 
like go to the church too, down 

493
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,600
in one episode. 
So I was in the trailer like I 

494
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,640
don't know her preaching and I 
guess the grand reopening of the

495
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:14,320
church but. 
On Beverly Hills, Erica remodels

496
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,520
for her. 
Her patio redecorates her house.

497
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:20,800
It has a party. 
Mary goes ahead and has a sermon

498
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,200
that's. 
Fantastic with Jesus. 

499
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,040
I love like the beginning. 
It's like Mary's grandmother and

500
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,720
Jesus. 
I want to see one. 

501
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,560
I'm sure someone already out 
there on the Internet has one of

502
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,320
Mary and Jesus, I'm sure. 
I'm sure. 

503
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,320
Thanks to AI, Yeah, that's 
crazy. 

504
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,920
So then, yes, the muzzy of it 
all. 

505
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,120
Muzzy Wuzzy. 
Yeah. 

506
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:49,800
Had a really bad opinion. 
I mean, she's really sticking to

507
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,280
her guns that like it was all 
about her that like. 

508
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,600
I was so affected by this. 
I had the shame and Daddy and 

509
00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:59,400
you know, because he was for a 
minute. 

510
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,280
I thought you were saying you 
were so affected by it. 

511
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,760
I'm like, really? 
You didn't seem so affected by 

512
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,120
it. 
Yeah, Muzzy. 

513
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:10,200
Like her because Rollins father 
worked in the and the temple and

514
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,840
yadda, yadda, yadda. 
And it's like, yeah, but at the 

515
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,320
end of the day. 
And then I had to like, you 

516
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:16,640
know, take care of your child. 
Yes. 

517
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,240
While Brahman worked to help 
support the child. 

518
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000
And when she threw out foster 
care, I was like, whoa, whoa, 

519
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,640
whoa, lady. 
Yeah, step too far. 

520
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,240
That's yeah, that's your 
grandkid. 

521
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,720
And yeah, the story that Brahman
told about, you know, the guy, 

522
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,400
oh, she had to buy something in 
there, you know, for her other 

523
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,360
grandchild. 
And she's like, no, like if that

524
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,800
went down like that, that's some
cold blooded shit right there. 

525
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,880
I'm sure she did go down just 
like that, yeah. 

526
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,240
And. 
The baby gap. 

527
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:49,160
Yeah, I can. 
Poor baby Gap employee. 

528
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,040
Like, oh, OK, put my foot in it.
Just ring her up, girl. 

529
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:57,240
Just bring her up. 
So I can see, especially from 

530
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,280
if, you know, all of that, you 
know, Bronwyn definitely has a 

531
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,600
need to, you know, feel 
celebrated by her mother. 

532
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,440
And like, you know, we were 
talking about it that, like, the

533
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,960
cat's out of the bag. 
It's 20 years later, the big 

534
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,640
Gwen exists. 
And I think that's probably what

535
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,280
still is irritating Broadwin, is
that, like, Gwen exists. 

536
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,480
Say what you will about all the 
bad things that got, you know, 

537
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:27,000
you feel got her here, You know,
can we all just agree that she's

538
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,480
amazing? 
And it seems that even Muzzy 

539
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,240
doesn't even do that. 
She's just kind of like, oh, OK.

540
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,360
It's like it didn't happen in 
the way you would want it to or 

541
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:39,600
in the timeline, but like you 
have this great grandchild and 

542
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,520
you know, you should just be 
happy for that and that's all 

543
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,440
that matters. 
That she's so wonderful. 

544
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,320
But that's just not. 
Blasi keeps wanting to dig up 

545
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:54,600
the past. 
I think she's trying to say, you

546
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,600
know, I don't know. 
I I lost that trick I think. 

547
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,880
She's trying to say she doesn't 
think that Bronwyn is a good 

548
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:02,440
mother. 
Like everything that she said 

549
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,440
was just basically like, you 
know, well, that's not what I 

550
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,560
would have. 
Brought I think Bronwyn failed. 

551
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,280
Yeah, like she can't get past. 
Fuck that. 

552
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,120
Bronwyn failed. 
She believed BYU. 

553
00:27:11,120 --> 00:27:12,960
She didn't know what she was 
supposed to do, which was not 

554
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:17,120
have premarital sex. 
She, you know, didn't raise Gwen

555
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:20,160
the way she should have. 
And you know, it all got foisted

556
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,640
back to Muzzy, supposedly to 
like take care of the daughter 

557
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:25,840
and. 
Did we know Bronwyn had sisters?

558
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,480
No, I don't think that I've 
heard that. 

559
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,480
Before who are pregnant at the 
same time but Mormons makes. 

560
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,680
Sense yeah, yeah and but 
probably older and married. 

561
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,120
Did it? 
Did it? 

562
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,880
Right, so I'm. 
So I'm assuming it's two sisters

563
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,360
then? 
I was assuming share. 

564
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:40,120
Both prey at the same time. 
Yeah. 

565
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,200
Interesting. 
So 3. 

566
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,680
No, I think it was just she was 
pregnant as the same as one of 

567
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:45,640
the other ones. 
Not but. 

568
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,040
She had both sisters. 
Oh, that's what I'm saying. 

569
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,080
That's OK. 
The timing of that different 

570
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,360
months, of course. 
Right. 

571
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,640
But so instead of that being a 
happy occasion, it was like 

572
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,360
happy for my other two 
daughters. 

573
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,200
But this is the disappointment 
and she just never let it go. 

574
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,560
I would like to see her. 
Let the mouse guy. 

575
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,480
Wonder if she has a relationship
with those sisters at all or if 

576
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,200
they're like, the sisters are 
living a completely different 

577
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,280
life and they don't even, you 
know, because I'd be wondering 

578
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,800
what their take on 'cause he is 
like, they all three girls could

579
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,160
just be like, yeah, Mom's crazy,
you know, or whatever their, 

580
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,480
their thoughts are. 
Or two of them could be like 

581
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,560
very much like, no, you're the 
black sheep. 

582
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,760
And here's why. 
Well, they're still like in the 

583
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,160
Mormon church. 
They could definitely could 

584
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,920
believe that. 
And you know, that was just 

585
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,320
doing the show. 
This is finally someone one of 

586
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,560
the housewives I would like to 
meet their siblings. 

587
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:37,240
Right, because it's it's 
important to the story and to 

588
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,400
what we. 
I want, I always want to know 

589
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,200
more about Bronwyn. 
I think she's really interested,

590
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,920
really layered. 
We're going to make a little too

591
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:49,960
much coming up, but I I feel I 
want to see that. 

592
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,080
And yeah, but yeah, with the 
with Muzzy, I just, I don't get 

593
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:56,880
where you're trying to go with 
this. 

594
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,520
Like, does she want Bronwyn to 
admit, you know, yeah, I really.

595
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,360
I was, I was horrible. 
I should have done these things.

596
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,640
I'm a bad person. 
I caused you so much pain. 

597
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,960
But I think even she did say it,
you know, she but he wouldn't be

598
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,680
satisfied. 
And then when she said this 

599
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,240
whole thing about like, I don't 
tell you you're wonderful and 

600
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,400
great because I don't want you 
to know it. 

601
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:20,720
Like I mean like not to get a 
big head or just you just want 

602
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:25,000
her in a box that you put her in
and not to get too above her. 

603
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,880
That's what it felt like, yeah. 
I don't want you to get above 

604
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,080
your station. 
I don't want. 

605
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:30,560
You to get above your place. 
Yeah. 

606
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,680
You're still the unwed mother. 
I don't care how many that 

607
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Simons you have now. 
And your rich husband and the 

608
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,560
house that I'm living in. 
I'm living in your house, Right?

609
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,320
Think about that, Muzzy. 
Yeah. 

610
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,040
You didn't buy this house that 
Todd bought this. 

611
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,880
That was kind of the tone I was 
getting from the whole 

612
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,720
conversation too, is that she 
didn't want to like, praise her 

613
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,560
too much to make her think that 
like the ends justify the means,

614
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,840
You know, that sort of thing, 
right? 

615
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,040
You're here where you are now. 
But like you, you know, this 

616
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,720
isn't good. 
How you? 

617
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:55,920
Fail. 
You still fail. 

618
00:29:56,080 --> 00:30:02,200
But it's like your husband who 
has dementia is in a great 

619
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,040
facility, I'm sure, paid for by 
Todd. 

620
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,040
You're living in a house paid 
for by Todd. 

621
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,800
This has all been arranged for 
you have been like, screw you, 

622
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:12,440
figure it out in California, you
know. 

623
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,720
Where the other two where the 
sisters? 

624
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,880
Right. 
Yeah, but like she didn't. 

625
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:21,200
And so, you know, these the kiss
Graham's ass, but you cannot be 

626
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,400
an ass to her. 
You know, it's just, it's, it 

627
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,720
takes so little. 
Well, I mean, that's how that's 

628
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,680
that's how high her convictions 
are about this whole matter is 

629
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,640
that she's still willing to, you
know, do all this and say all 

630
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,840
this given the circumstances. 
That's how strongly she feels. 

631
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:38,840
Right, that she cares. 
Yes. 

632
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,160
Yes. 
It's it's screwed up, but if you

633
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,080
ask me, but. 
That's her need to be light. 

634
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,840
So deep down, even though she's 
appalled by things her mother is

635
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,120
saying, she wants her 
validation. 

636
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,920
And after a while, he's got to 
be like, you know, one day she's

637
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,920
not going to be here and your 
dad won't be. 

638
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,320
Her dad's no longer here. 
So, you know, you got to 

639
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,400
validate yourself because I 
don't think you're going to get 

640
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,240
what you want from Muzzy ever, 
which is. 

641
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,920
Sad, Very sad. 
Yeah, just keep seeking 

642
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,760
something. 
You're not going to get it. 

643
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,880
But I mean, you just have to 
realize that you're not going to

644
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,320
get that and be able to be OK 
with that. 

645
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,560
Be OK with people not liking you
all the time. 

646
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,400
Make peace. 
So I'm sure she's in therapy and

647
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,680
she's, you know, looking into 
all this. 

648
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:24,560
But like, I hope she is because,
you know, I think she seems to 

649
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:29,480
be like a really good person and
she doesn't need to seek that, 

650
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,080
you know, violation from other 
people. 

651
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:37,080
It's interesting that Bronwyn is
choosing to make this part of 

652
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:38,760
the show. 
Like she could have easily just 

653
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:40,960
been like, you know, I'm not 
going to film around my mom. 

654
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,480
Or well, I think I don't think 
it's strategic. 

655
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,240
I think it this happened like, 
you know, she couldn't have 

656
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,000
planned, you know, her dad's 
condition and bring him out from

657
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,280
California. 
But also, too, you know, Todd 

658
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,680
isn't going to toggle film. 
Minimal though, yes. 

659
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,200
But Todd's like, I'm not going 
to play into your hands, like 

660
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,840
I'm not going to be able to 
watch what happens live. 

661
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,480
I'm going to be, I just said the
bare minimal just to like 

662
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,040
support you in this endeavour. 
Todd should be a bartender on 

663
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,720
Watch What Happens Live. 
Yes, never. 

664
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,160
But yeah, the fact that Todd's 
like I, I'm going to be working 

665
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,280
and then Gwen is like, I'm need 
to leave the house. 

666
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,040
Going to our bowling league. 
Not just to, like, have sex with

667
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:21,960
my boyfriend because I don't, 
but also I don't want to be on 

668
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,960
the show. 
Yeah. 

669
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,760
Yeah. 
So it's like Prom was looking 

670
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,120
around, like, all right, mom, 
let's do this. 

671
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,640
Yeah, no, I mean, I, I, I'm, 
we're not parents. 

672
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:35,200
So I mean, we definitely don't 
have the, you know, ability to 

673
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,800
speak on us Well, but I mean, I,
I tend to believe I was raised 

674
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,560
in the way that like my mom 
would rather know what was going

675
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,080
on than have to, you know, 
assume it's going on and never 

676
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,120
actually have the answer. 
So I definitely agree with 

677
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,200
Bronwyn on that. 
But I can also see the slightest

678
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:57,600
point from Muzzy about how like,
you know, that doesn't work 

679
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,880
though necessarily. 
Like, you know, they're not, 

680
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,720
there's still going to be things
they're not going to tell you, 

681
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,960
right? 
But also to, yeah, it also leads

682
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,000
into Bronwyn saying she, you 
know, feels like she has isn't 

683
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,960
done mothering and maybe she 
didn't do a great job. 

684
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,160
And I feel like she has so much 
guilt and so much that she 

685
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,880
places on her own shoulders, let
alone what people think about 

686
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:19,400
her. 
Yeah. 

687
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,880
Like she's just gonna. 
That's just not a way to live 

688
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,640
well. 
I mean, there's so much trauma 

689
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,160
surrounding, you know her, you 
know life. 

690
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,160
In the church. 
And everything coming up, I 

691
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,320
mean, it'd be hard not to. 
But you know, at some point, 

692
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,040
hopefully, yeah, she can let let
some of it go. 

693
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,200
Yeah. 
So. 

694
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Yeah, anyway. 
She's a great housewife and 

695
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,680
she's a she's a really 
interesting person to get to 

696
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,120
know better. 
Yeah, I, I think so, yeah. 

697
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,120
I mean, it's again, the fact 
that I'm kind of want to meet 

698
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,360
her siblings. 
I'm like, OK, I would not say 

699
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:54,280
that about Stephanie on Miami. 
Oh, right. 

700
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,120
Oh, right. 
Yeah. 

701
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,680
Although now I kind of ever so 
much more do after that last 

702
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,680
reunion episode. 
Well, she's OK with the 1 twin 

703
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,440
or the 1 twin will appear next 
season. 

704
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,240
Yeah, and it's like I have a 
message from the other twins. 

705
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:06,080
She still doesn't like you. 
I. 

706
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,239
Don't know we're starting about 
1 twin will appear 1 twin won't 

707
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:10,560
appear. 
It's sounding very soapy. 

708
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,400
Is is she going to play them 
both? 

709
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,679
Is. 
It going to be Kate Collins 

710
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,199
sister. 
No, it's just one. 

711
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:19,199
It's just, it's just Stephanie 
with the red hair and then one 

712
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:20,760
has black hair, one has blonde 
hair. 

713
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,800
Totally. 
And my sister. 

714
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Wouldn't that be that she's 
like, downright? 

715
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,120
Like that was for real. 
You're like, whoa, we hired a 

716
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,560
crazy house. 
She's just. 

717
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:34,760
Three different personalities. 
What's with the wig? 

718
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:36,880
What do you mean? 
I'm with Stephanie? 

719
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:42,120
I'm Simone. 
Oh, we got to watch some soap 

720
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:46,239
opera beyond the gates. 
So like, we're like, you know, 

721
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,600
applauding and beyond the gates 
and like, talking it up and yes,

722
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,080
still watch it. 
It's just that I think five days

723
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,800
a week is a lot. 
It's a lot. 

724
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:56,880
And it's like we're not 
teenagers anymore when we were 

725
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,520
just like, you know. 
Well, and. 

726
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Multiple shows. 
And there's so many other shows 

727
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,520
to watch. 
Now exactly. 

728
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,080
Not like it was in the 90s where
you had. 

729
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:06,520
So many changes. 
Exactly. 

730
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,040
And like, you know, you had 
yeah, you couldn't just watch 

731
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,960
100 different thing or you could
technically. 

732
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,880
Like we have shows like we 
forget like we have, we have 

733
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,880
streaming services that we 
forget that we have Apple that 

734
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:19,480
we're like, Oh yeah, we should 
get back to that. 

735
00:35:19,720 --> 00:35:23,960
By the way, aside from that, The
Lost Bus, Matthew McConaughey, 

736
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,200
America Forever movie, there's 
going to be this Jerry Stiller 

737
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,400
and Mira documentary on Apple 
like a five part docu series 

738
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,280
with Ben Stiller. 
Yeah, it sounds. 

739
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,600
So great A5 part Jerry Stiller 
and Mira documentary. 

740
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,320
I'm really good. 
It's like, you know, because 

741
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,880
it's like he did it with his 
sister, Amy Stiller. 

742
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,720
So I'm sure that's about her 
family. 

743
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,280
And they're going to get to 
like, you know how Ben Stiller 

744
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,680
and Christine Taylor broke up 
for a while and they got back 

745
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,480
together during Covic. 
And so I think it's like their 

746
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:59,560
entire family and their whole 
they're like Ed Sullivan like 50

747
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,960
times or some such like that. 
That's crazy. 

748
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,240
So. 
Well, I mean, I I look forward 

749
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,120
to it, if only to make use of 
our Apple TV Plus subscription. 

750
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,840
Yes, there's two things. 
We need to watch that. 

751
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,120
And apparently you're kind of 
warm on the morning show now. 

752
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:16,320
I could look into it, OK, 
because I just the fact that 

753
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:19,120
it's in season 4, there'd be a 
good a good band should we like 

754
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,240
really get into it. 
True, true, you know, but I 

755
00:36:21,240 --> 00:36:23,320
like, I love Reese, I love 
Jennifer. 

756
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:26,440
So all. 
Right, Yeah, you seem very anti 

757
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,800
morning show the first I. 
Was because it was seasons it 

758
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,920
didn't seem appealing but now? 
It keeps winning things and it. 

759
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,040
Doesn't really win things 
actually. 

760
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,360
They both get nominee, but it 
doesn't actually win anything. 

761
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,080
Right, because of that damn 
studio and shrinking, they keep 

762
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,360
winning things. 
Not even shrinking. 

763
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:46,440
Shrinking got a couple one or 
two things last year. 

764
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,120
I got the globes. 
I think they got something. 

765
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,360
Maybe, but again, a lot of 
nominations. 

766
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,080
But yeah, it's it's yes. 
I think we're just, we're just 

767
00:36:54,080 --> 00:37:00,360
more HBO Max, Netflix people. 
And I think Apple's lower on 

768
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:01,920
their totem pole. 
I think it's like for us, it's 

769
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:06,200
like a tie between Netflix and 
HBO Max really more yeah, a tie.

770
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,400
And then after that would be 
Hulu and then Apple. 

771
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:14,520
Oh, Prime and a Prime. 
Yeah, we haven't watched V 

772
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,720
Generation V. 
That's been out. 

773
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,280
That's been out for like a 
couple weeks. 

774
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:19,800
Now we should start watching 
that. 

775
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,600
Yeah, now that. 
Well, maybe. 

776
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,080
Now the things are being done. 
Well, next. 

777
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,160
Next week. 
Well, this week, yeah, yeah, 

778
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:27,840
yeah. 
So once we get that, once we 

779
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:32,800
like finish up the English 
teacher and we'll have some room

780
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,400
to have a series. 
Do you think every listener has 

781
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,080
this problem? 
Right? 

782
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,240
Yeah. 
He says there I sometimes think 

783
00:37:39,240 --> 00:37:41,080
I'm like, wait, what shows am I 
forgetting? 

784
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,360
I mean that's how do people have
time to rewatch Housewives. 

785
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,400
Exactly I. 
Don't understand the rewatching.

786
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,080
Although it won't be rewatched, 
it'll be an actual watch. 

787
00:37:50,240 --> 00:37:53,800
We should watch just that. 
That one, that Hampton strip. 

788
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,040
That's Wendy was telling us 
about. 

789
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,200
Yes, and we get into the whole 
the alleged Adriana Julia thing.

790
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,600
That should be our our homework 
for the Miami episodes. 

791
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,560
We need to watch that one so we 
have some more. 

792
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:08,360
Contacts in preparation maybe 
tomorrow, right, we just put it 

793
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,200
but it's like maybe two or three
parts yeah, big trip probably of

794
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,360
the season so we will do that 
and then we're ready for when we

795
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:16,760
record the episode probably 
Friday but. 

796
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,320
I don't know. 
Remember we just mentioned we 

797
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,680
have all those other shows to 
watch. 

798
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,520
So I mean old Miami episode, 
right? 

799
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,680
But. 
It gives us context as we were 

800
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,800
wrapping up the season on Miami,
which I'm glad that it's 

801
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,920
wrapping up again with me. 
By the time I get to ring, I'm 

802
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,400
like, let's get done with this. 
Yes, I. 

803
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,480
Agree and bring Beverly Hills 
back into our lives. 

804
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:35,440
I agree. 
Yeah. 

805
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,240
You know, we are really awful at
not mentioning the good stuff. 

806
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:41,160
We didn't bring up the good 
stuff at the beginning of the 

807
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,080
episodes, for instance. 
About our. 

808
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,400
Our yeah, like you know, cuz 
this podcast or if yeah, yeah, 

809
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,800
this is our first one of ours 
back, you know, cuz we did one 

810
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,800
with we wine whatever, which 
just posted today. 

811
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,360
So that's the Miami reunion. 
But then we did the premiere of 

812
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Potomac with Festi approved. 
So if you're wondering why there

813
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,000
is an epidemic episode that will
come out and it's we're on Vesti

814
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,480
Approves podcast. 
Love them. 

815
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,520
Such a fun time. 
Yes, we like just it's such a 

816
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,920
great vibe and like just talking
of Potomac and like other things

817
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:16,480
and yeah, they're just so funny.
Yeah, so funny and like easy to 

818
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,640
talk to and we really enjoy 
them. 

819
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,480
Yeah, yeah. 
And then Emma is like a little 

820
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,680
bit quiet, it seems sometimes. 
But then, yeah. 

821
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,960
And you're just like, you're 
like, whoa, was not expecting 

822
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,680
that. 
So no, it was definitely. 

823
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:32,960
And it's one of those things 
like when it's just my, it's a 

824
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,000
bias I have for sure of like 
when people are quiet but like 

825
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:39,320
that, they choose very carefully
what they're going to say so 

826
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,800
that when they do, you're like, 
oh shit. 

827
00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:43,880
She got. 
Me, yeah. 

828
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,840
And that's definitely, I think 
one of one of her good qualities

829
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,680
too. 
I like the Travis, you know 

830
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:53,320
challenges us with, you know 
other another point of view that

831
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,760
we're just like what okay, okay,
that's valid, that's valid you 

832
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:58,840
like her. 
I get it. 

833
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,440
Okay, yes, you know, it's just 
like he feels very strong about 

834
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,560
his. 
Opinions and I think. 

835
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,400
I think we need to do one more 
collab with them before he's 

836
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:08,920
just going to. 
We're going to lay into each 

837
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:10,360
other. 
I think it's just going to be 

838
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,840
like, how do you like her? 
Well, I was really like holding 

839
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,320
back. 
I'm like, oh, you're talking 

840
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,120
about Teddy. 
Oh, gosh. 

841
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,400
Achilles heel. 
Achilles heel. 

842
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,720
But I, I it was funny, though. 
Anybody else, I would be like, 

843
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,720
look, or I'd be like, Teddy. 
Here's the thing. 

844
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,320
Yeah. 
So, but no, we're very, very 

845
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,080
thankful for everyone who's 
reached out and we, you know, 

846
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,920
we've been able to make these 
collabs happen. 

847
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,800
It's a fun time getting to know 
more people in the podcast and 

848
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,920
community in this wonderful 
Housewives community as well. 

849
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:48,160
So you know, it's, it's, it's 
been a good time. 

850
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,400
So. 
But I'm glad to be back doing 

851
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:53,400
our own, even if we're tired as 
hell and hot. 

852
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:55,680
Cranky. 
Yeah, why is this loft so damn 

853
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:56,600
hot? 
So hot. 

854
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:58,040
Who do you? 
Who are you saying is cranky? 

855
00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,480
I'm sorry. 
I was cranky. 

856
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,000
I was cranky too. 
Yeah, I'm sorry, I was cranky 

857
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,160
earlier. 
No saying you also, I love you 

858
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:06,600
too. 
And you drop the mic, stand on 

859
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,040
your foot. 
So yeah, yeah, yeah. 

860
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,600
See, if we just done this in the
beginning of the episode, we 

861
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,600
could have had our Kumbaya 
moment, right? 

862
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,560
It's just like Heather wanted. 
Yeah. 

863
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,440
Then you know, then tomorrow 
I'll then mow you $600. 

864
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,400
Out of our joint account. 
Yeah, actually the car payments 

865
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,840
do, so I need you to. 
I need to send that to you, Yes,

866
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,440
yes. 
So what else now? 

867
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,000
I'm kidding. 
The life of a married couple. 

868
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Can you send me the car money? 
Thank you very. 

869
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,440
Much I'm like, did I just do the
Amex then we just do the more 

870
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:39,840
we. 
Did I know? 

871
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,240
Also, we got to talk about 
buying a new car. 

872
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:47,320
I I know I keep coming and going
on this, but the smoke, blue 

873
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,440
smoke came out of the exhaust 
pipe the other day. 

874
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,560
And wait, what? 
Yeah. 

875
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,400
I mean now on on the. 
Because I was, I had so many 

876
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,640
high hopes for my day off today.
I actually thought I might like 

877
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:02,520
go to one of the dealerships and
like work out a deal and but 

878
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,840
just not finalize it. 
Without. 

879
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:07,000
Me. 
Yeah, just basically find out 

880
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:11,040
like how much like that one we 
would both like it or something 

881
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,520
in that price range. 
What can you do for us? 

882
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,240
And then I just have it all 
ready to go and then talk to you

883
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,440
about it and then we just go in 
and sign and stuff like you're 

884
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,600
Teresa Judai, so just have you 
sign that thing. 

885
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,160
Nothing and bad will happen at 
all. 

886
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:27,280
Well as I've said before, like I
guess I will give it a curse or 

887
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:31,360
a glance and be like OK OK. 
But like most anything I my 

888
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,200
husband puts it in front of me. 
I will decide it and be like 

889
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:38,120
this is fine. 
Well, and half the things Notary

890
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,400
puts it in front of you, you're 
just like, OK, I'll sign there. 

891
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,760
Well, yeah, when we bought the 
house, it was like, I guess this

892
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,880
is OK. 
I mean, they wouldn't sell us 

893
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,040
wrong. 
I know, right? 

894
00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,280
I mean, they're a notary. 
They're not supposed to lie, 

895
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:49,000
right? 
You know. 

896
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,360
Well, there he doesn't give a 
crap. 

897
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,360
They're always like, I've just 
been brought here to have you do

898
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,400
this. 
You know, I don't know what's in

899
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:56,400
there. 
I don't know how if you're going

900
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,680
to be horse swindled. 
Horse swaggled. 

901
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,480
Horn swaggled. 
Horn swaggled. 

902
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,720
Anyways, now he's using old 
timey language Angie. 

903
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:14,200
Sometimes it works, but no, 
maybe this Sunday we will go and

904
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:17,360
look at cars. 
We should. 

905
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,600
There's nothing else going on. 
I don't want to, I don't want to

906
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,560
don't want to start over on car 
payments like that's just, but 

907
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,160
same time I just don't want to 
pay for the maintenance on this 

908
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,320
car as it gets older. 
Yeah, and I think, you know, if 

909
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,680
it was the right 'cause I have a
hard time letting go of things. 

910
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:40,240
I'm nostalgic and also it's a 
really pretty and for the most 

911
00:43:40,240 --> 00:43:43,480
part like durable car. 
But if we're going to run into 

912
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,760
issues with it down the line, 
then I can let it go. 

913
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,120
But it's also first call we 
brought back together, yadda 

914
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,360
yadda yadda. 
So it's hard to let that go, but

915
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,000
also doesn't make sense to have 
like 3 cars. 

916
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,520
So if we well. 
We'd get rid of red car, right? 

917
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,680
Right, it's a whole. 
See this is our. 

918
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:02,160
Problem. 
You don't get, I know, but this 

919
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,480
is our problem is that we keep 
going, we keep talking ourselves

920
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,120
in and out of getting a new car.
We just. 

921
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,920
Need it's just a lot to start 
over when we made so much 

922
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:14,400
progress in three years now 
paying off this credit card and 

923
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,280
you know but we want to have a 
reliable car is. 

924
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,600
That's the important thing. 
That's because. 

925
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,760
We live in. 
California, we need to drive all

926
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,880
the time. 
Exactly, exactly so. 

927
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,040
Let's bring it back. 
Oh yeah, Lake. 

928
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,520
Cars, because they're 
everyone's, they like, they like

929
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,640
parking. 
This would be parking. 

930
00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,320
I thought my dad will always 
like do this. 

931
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,720
Do like weird like he's? 
Driving a bus and he would 

932
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:43,000
silence as he like. 
Yeah, my mom would avoid 

933
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,880
parallel parking at all costs, 
which is why once I learned how 

934
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,880
to drive, she'd have me do it. 
And which is why she's a good 

935
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:49,440
parallel parking. 
Really good parallel parking, 

936
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,680
yeah. 
But it's also one of those 

937
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,520
things, you know, when your 
parents are like really, really,

938
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,840
really one way and you're just 
like, I'm never to be like that.

939
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,680
I made sure I could parallel 
park because she was, we can't 

940
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:00,840
go there. 
Why we have to parallel park. 

941
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,200
And I was just like. 
Well, I get really, you know, 

942
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,360
driving in the city, like just 
kind of tense. 

943
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,960
Like I, I, I don't know if I'm 
going to be able to get a good 

944
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:09,040
space. 
And then like, oh, I got 

945
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,800
parallel park and the pressure 
of like having people behind you

946
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,160
and, you know, just like, I 
don't want to like, yeah, I 

947
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,880
shouldn't try it. 
I'll I'll find something else. 

948
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,480
The one thing that's the worst 
in San Francisco is when you 

949
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,480
have to park on the left side of
a one way St. because you're so 

950
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:24,960
used to parking parallel parking
on the right. 

951
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,800
When you have to do on the left,
you're like what the hell? 

952
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,160
It's just really I would 
couldn't be able to, couldn't do

953
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,520
it. 
I think the car that we're 

954
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,360
looking at has an actual 
parallel parking assist 

955
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,720
function. 
Well, we have an assist function

956
00:45:37,720 --> 00:45:39,120
too. 
It's called a backup Cam. 

957
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,400
No, but there's one more like I 
think you press a button and it 

958
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,920
does the thing. 
It parks it for you, yeah. 

959
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:47,760
Wouldn't that be nice? 
It would be, I would not that 

960
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,520
may like drive it to the city 
all the time. 

961
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,000
I know, but we're we will end up
testing that out thoroughly 

962
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,240
because I don't trust the fact 
that they would actually do it, 

963
00:45:54,240 --> 00:45:57,040
but apparently it does. 
It's like cruise control but for

964
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,280
like parallel. 
Parks, yes, it's just crazy. 

965
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,560
And I'll tell you the only 
reason I want a new car is I 

966
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,360
want to have a memory button for
the seat position. 

967
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,280
That's really what I want. 
I've always wanted one and. 

968
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,400
The dual charger, apparently, 
and the moon roof that we're 

969
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,520
never going to use. 
I, we will. 

970
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:17,520
We will someday, So anyway, we 
should move on. 

971
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,200
Because we talked about all the 
women I. 

972
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,680
Think we have, Yeah. 
I think we were a little bit 

973
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,120
heavy or hard on some of them 
because we were a little bit 

974
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,840
cranky at the start of the 
podcast. 

975
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,800
Who listen? 
Yeah, a little bit. 

976
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,320
You know, she got to a good 
place finally. 

977
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,880
So I I applaud her for that, for
actually taking accountability 

978
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,840
and apologizing. 
So I'm OK with her. 

979
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,280
I'm sure next episode will be a 
different case. 

980
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,120
Yeah, in this moment, in this 
space, I'm OK with her. 

981
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:52,200
Yeah, yeah. 
That's all I can give. 

982
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,000
OK, that's all. 
You know what? 

983
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,480
I'm glad that's progress. 
You know, you and Lisa are in a 

984
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,960
good place for now. 
For now. 

985
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,480
Just like everyone. 
Yeah. 

986
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,400
Although then when I point out 
that she, you know, did that 

987
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:03,920
whole thing to Angie, just 
forget. 

988
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,160
Forget Lisa. 
I don't like her. 

989
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,880
Take your product. 
Take your Moon Wolf, your Wolfie

990
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:11,920
Stone Wolfie, whatever. 
Red Riding Hood and the wolf. 

991
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,360
I don't. 
Care and we'll talk about it 

992
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,520
next time. 
Till next time.