Welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we just watched episode of The Real
Housewives of Miami. Yeah.
And I don't, yeah, I don't see what people like in Miami.
I think that's what I'm coming down to.
I don't. I don't get what people see in
it. I let's see.
Yeah. I don't know.
I don't dislike it. I'm just not.
It's not as amazing. Right.
It's just there's some good parts, some good points, some
moments, but like. Like I think I was oversold is
definitely how I feel like everyone was saying, oh, it's
it's as good or better than Salt Lake some people.
Who said that? Weren't they?
You know what they were saying. Excuse me, who?
Said that I know this is so weird because like it just seems
to be the same things over and over again.
Not that the other franchises aren't the same things over and
over again, but like the the drama just doesn't seem like at
all. The height it's and we always
talk about like low stakes drama, but like kind of this
just isn't, this is no stakes. Trauma, yeah, like low stakes
trauma would be next Gen. NYC where it's just like, it's a
little petty. It's a little right, You know,
someone might get their feelings hurt, but barely really.
And then they just get over by the next episode.
This is just. This is Julia and Gertie going
at it back and forth, the same thing over and over again.
Lisa and Larsa going at it, same thing over again.
Everyone and I know every housewife show does this.
They promise they're going to get over it and they don't get
over it and they come back to it over all over again, which, OK,
fine, but it's like they're just what they're beefing about is
doesn't even seem to be like, what the hell are they even?
I don't. Think about, I think it's terms
of like Lisa and Larsa. I don't even know what the issue
is of you didn't support me with my breakup with Marcus.
You said bad things about my boyfriend and Jody.
You're lying about this. You're lying about that.
You're a narcissist. You're a narcissist.
You know, it just seemed. I don't know what the anger
comes from. You know, the clearest thing to
me was you were saying nasty things to me or, or, or texting
me angry things when I was going through my dad dying.
That's the clearest offense I can see.
Anything else just seems kind of like superficial, you know, like
Jody being friends with Marcus. Barely.
Yeah. Is cause for you to get so upset
and then slander Jody. I don't know.
Yeah, yeah, it just. Yeah, I'm not.
And then they get to a good place by the end of the episode.
For now. For now, as you say, this could.
Change, change. A dime.
And I think also because even though there are a number of
friends, you know, but there's only the six and you know, the
five in the new one, it just seems like their their drama is
just recycled. Well, because the friends don't
have drama with them, you know? Yeah, yeah, Marisol and Adriana
and kick your like, in and out and bring out their own natural
stuff, right? So yeah.
And so that just basically leaves it.
So it's this whole Lisa Larsa thing, Julia Gertie thing, and
Alexia out there being all like, I'm going to have a narcissist
party. So it was.
I mean, it's better than an old Hollywood party.
I'll start there. And I have to say that the red
flag game. Was actually pretty good, yeah.
It was actually like for for being a housewives game.
I was like, well, this isn't immediately, you know,
inflammatory into the situation. If if the red flags have been
spread out amongst more people, it would have been better
because then they really could have talked about more had this
been so like there would have been everyone would have gotten
red flags and they were everyone got in like, you know, shit
talked, but it's just purely was focused on Lisa and.
Lisa got defensive and just was went.
I went. Too 'cause it did seem like a
dogpile, yeah. Yeah.
Also, I think instead of calling it a game, they should have
called it an exercise 'cause if this thing was to be like there
to like learn about our everyone's narcissistic
tendencies, like even including your own and calling it an
exercise would be better than a game to seem like they're having
fun. There's no fun unleashed.
What also wasn't fun was those dumb sayings on the mirror.
It was like basically he took his Instagram and put it on
mirrors throughout this very pretty event space they were at.
But it was dumb. Like it was so dumb.
I mean, I liked. It the only thing you should
write on mirrors is your wedding date.
Say it. Didn't remind me of the the
wedding, our wedding mirror, but also, you know, not like we're
the first, certainly not the first to that we.
Stole it from the people who had the wedding when?
We went and looked at the yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, we totally still got it in the.
Garage. We should hang that up
somewhere. We should.
That's like, just like
collecting dust in the garage. We should.
Where should we put that? Well, the problem is it would go
with the wedding photo, which is right inside our front door.
And that just a little bit more a little too like hello that.
'D be a lot of self examination for people though.
I mean, I did think it was fun that the women were going
through and reading the you got to see.
The I just caught it, I just caught it.
He's holding up a mirror for them.
Wow. See, yeah, took you a little
while there, but at the same time, like they, none of them
were taking it. I mean, some of them were taking
it to heart, but many of them were not.
And, well, Lexi was like, oh, it's the gospel.
Like, oh, yeah, that's so me. Like everyone was like, oh,
yeah, that's me. Oh, no, that's me, you know?
Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, that's the
thing. I, I think the ones that were
able to say like, yeah, OK, we're all a little narcissistic.
They got so reflection assignment, you know.
I get it you. Seriously.
Not Yeah. No, I didn't.
I get it. I thought he just was putting up
stuff on on mirror. I didn't get that it was self
reflection. It doesn't.
It doesn't change the fact that it's still cheesy.
It's still. Cheesy and dumb.
Also it was like a lipstick on a mirror.
Like, like, yeah, it was lipstick.
Yeah, or it might have been. It was some lipstick looking
thing. It might have been like nail
Polish. What did we get?
Like some. We had a silver, we had a white.
Paint Marker. Paint Marker.
Yeah, so it was probably some lipstick colored paint marker,
but. That would be off putting if we
put that right at our. Yeah, it's really.
Weird, and I don't want to put it up up here.
Oh, I guess we could. I mean, where else could we put?
It that's the problem, we have to put it up here.
But yeah, man, we'll figure something out.
Maybe. We need a bigger out maybe.
I was just saying maybe we'll just clean our wedding date off
the mirror and we'll put some, you know, Instagram sayings on
there. No, we can't clear our wedding
date off. Maybe we'll just hang it in the
garage so whenever we pull in it, we'll see it hanging in the
garage. What you don't see is that we
have like our table assignment board up there above our wet
bar. Yeah.
See that by you, I mean, like the audience.
You, not you. I was.
Like, well, I was also. Why are you pointing at the bar?
Yeah, I was like, oh, okay, yes, we.
Just forget about it 'cause we don't really use that wet bar
ever. Well, it gets hot up here.
We know this is not an entertaining space.
It's not an entertaining space. Again, I was actually thinking
of getting or you know, 'cause we went looked at that open
House of the model, like our house.
I'm thinking maybe I should get an upstairs air conditioner.
Or a fan. We could have a fan like right
here. We should have a fan we.
Should have a fan. It wouldn't.
Oh my God, why have we not thought of ever thought of
putting in a ceiling fan? Everything else we've added to
this house and we've never thought the hot room.
Why not put a ceiling fan? And honestly, we want to put one
on this end and 1:00 on that end because we have the two can
lights in the middle of ruin the symmetry.
Yes, that's probably why I never thought of putting a fan up
there because. Next tomorrow when you're at the
office, Google, like, what would that take to put in the ceiling
fan? Next tomorrow I will Google that
Ceiling fans are rather inexpensive.
Just getting someone to come do it and they'd have to cut in the
ceiling and wire. Oh, we got to do that, Yeah,
but. You know it's worth doing.
We should have had ants. We should have had the people
who did our. Should have that construction
company do it, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, and then we would can stop complaining about it being
hotter than hey. I know.
Although maybe may see again cutting out the middle manage,
getting an air conditioner might be the right way to go.
We already have air conditioning.
We. Have air conditioning, we have
central air conditioning, but it does not work up here.
It needs to have like we need to have like 1 unit that just pumps
it up here and keeps it cool separately.
But I'll, I will look into our options.
So we will not bore our hair listening.
Yeah, these details. So it's yeah, we so we covered
the party. It started with the party.
I, I will say Lisa needed to take more accountability for
being late. I like her and all, but that was
just dumb. Like you were two hours late and
Stephanie ended up apologizing to her, which I thought was very
surprising. Right.
Good on her. But there should have been more
of an apology from Lisa, just as at the end of the episode, she
should have, taking more accountability as opposed to
saying, like, I'm sorry, I didn't know that you were
feeling that way. Just say I'm sorry for my
behavior, not like you caused my behavior because you didn't tell
me you were feeling a certain kind of way, right?
She really used to work on her. Apologies.
You know, even her interactions with Stephanie at that party
where the like they were clearly trying to like be gloss things
over and make nice it. What you said towards the end is
that they're really just all kind of vapid like.
Varsa and Lisa are so vapid. Yeah, and.
So vapid and like, the they're only really.
Yeah. I mean, narcissism really is the
key here. I mean, no, I don't, I don't
like throwing around the word narcissism.
And, you know, that's a serious personality disorder.
And like to sit there and just say, you know, they're tossing
it around like it's just like, oh, look at us.
We're narcissists. Like like there's Jax Taylor, an
obvious narcissist and then these there's just vapid
housewives who are really self obsessed.
Well, that's why it's all, I think it's all right to be self
obsessed to a point, especially when the way you make your money
is, you know, by being pretty and posting photos on Instagram
and endorsing, you know, and being on housewives or on the
Valley, whatever it is. That's fine to a point.
Like whatever. I think it's good.
It's one thing to be pretty, but it's like when you're so stuck
on being pretty, the fact that Larsa will actually says it too
is so any any moment it's like, oh, let me pick up my phone,
look at myself. I can't imagine that if I was a
gorgeous lady, maybe I'm like, oh, I look really damn good.
Look at my Tatas, look at my whatever, look at my butt.
But I don't think I would just pick up my phone at any.
Whenever some there's like a lull, right?
It's like, look at me and like, how many times can you look at
yourself in one day? I'm stuck on the idea of you
being a gorgeous lady now. Don't you just.
I want to describe women as gorgeous women.
These now. Gorgeous lady.
No, it's not even that. It's also that like they're,
it's the competition that like, it's not that they have to be
prettier than each other, it's just that like there's only room
for one of them to be pretty at a time.
And now it seems like it's just some weird unspoken competition
and it. Maybe that's Miami.
Maybe it is, there's just there's room enough for everyone
to do their own thing. I just don't know why.
Like everyone seems to be a little bit up their own.
Very much. More up their own and they
refuse to acknowledge that it's others can be up their own as
well, you know so. It's just they're not seeing
each other. They're not hearing each other.
I mean, they made some progress at the end when they said we
should communicate better. Yes, you should.
And I also because I didn't why I haven't watched.
I don't buy that they were ever best friends.
Yeah, they're like, it's really surprising.
Yeah, like I want to be best friends again.
Like if I were just sitting there, I don't know.
Maybe they had a common enemy. That might have been Yeah, that
could have been the case. Yeah.
So that's also the thing. I was like, I, I, I guess it's
true. Like if I were going, I had a
falling out with a friend and you know, I who I was close with
and we were having a conversation like that, I would
be like, I do want to be best friends again, or I do want to
be good friends again, but like to expect it to happen right
then and there again, that's maybe one of those things that I
think is the, you know, men are from Mars women or from Venus
situation that like is that a thing with women or is that just
something that we're led to believe from housewife?
Yes, a little bit of column A little bit of column B.
Because, you know, we have, I mean, it's so with the whole
Julian Gertie thing, which we're not going to get into because
the last three episodes we've gotten into it over and over
and. Over.
I mean, I was going to touch on it briefly.
Yeah, we'll talk on it briefly. But like, I liked how Gertie was
saying that. Like what I was wanting from my
friends was for them to support me and support us reconciling.
So then of course, Gertie goes overboard and tries to get
Larson. Yeah.
That was a lot. That was a little bit annoying.
And she was mediating and she was.
Interpreting right? And I get it because it was
starting to go South or left whichever direction you wanted
to go. When they just start, you know,
Larsa was going in the wrong way.
But at the same time, if that's the way Larsa's going to go at
it, then you got to let her fail or succeed on her and get.
To it. It's like they were rehashing a
lot of the same things, but at least maybe they could have.
They needed to be by themselves. And they finally got there.
Yeah. Because that's what wasn't
happening. It was always like these fights
at parties. Exactly.
But no with the Julian Gertie
thing. I just passive aggressive.
Polly, what do you do when your friend doesn't want to move past
an issue and they didn't apologize really fully for
hurting your feelings? That didn't happen, Julia.
And that's all I'm going to say. You're just one, being passive
aggressive until the guy made you say Gritty's name, and then
two, speaking. I'm not.
I'm tired Speaking, not facts. You're not.
You're you're Yeah, you're not. You're only telling your side of
the story, right? Which is like, this happened
after you assaulted Gertie and she was really peeved from grace
of assault. But that's what happened.
So I don't know. Her version of the truth is
really muddy. Yeah, very, very strange.
They're getting off of them though, the whole social worker
thing. I really think it's surprising
that they were allowed to have a conversation with a social
worker about their adopted children on camera.
It makes me wonder if it's actually the social worker
that's assigned to the case, or if it's just.
A a social worker. Good point.
But also makes me wonder, like, you know, is everything legal in
Florida? I mean, is that part of their
their latest political movement is, you know, we have no
regulations? I mean, definitely and yeah,
yeah, yeah, I I didn't that scene was really off putting me
it. Very seems very strange that you
know they would discuss the and again, it's a situation where I
thought with adoption you at least you know until everything
was final, you can't even show pictures, but maybe they're
showing pictures retroactively because it is final now.
Oh, you're true. You're right.
Yeah. Yeah, but it just either way, it
just seems, it just feels. Because they weren't on camera
like they always have been pictures.
We haven't seen them on camera. They weren't filming with them.
Right. Just seems really really strange
and doesn't feel quite right but.
It's something is off. There it also like if that was a
social worker, why wasn't Martina in there with them
that's. What I was wondering too, if
this is like a court appointed, you know, you have to have this
meeting and then you know, in order to move forward with the
adoption process. I'm guessing that was a social
worker. Yeah.
Not the social worker, No. Like it's something you know,
created just for the show. Just as I talked to Yeah.
And I thought what was a better scene was Gertie and Russell in
their therapy finally, like an actual real couples therapy
session that they're not tearing each other down.
It's not bullshit. They were actually having a
conversation about how they feel and you know, their post cancer
lives. And I thought it was really
interesting. I didn't know they were high
school sweethearts, anything really about them except for
what I've heard, You know, that he was very supportive and, and
obviously is. And I like when he said, I'm not
a caretaker. I'm not trying to be a
caretaker. I'm just really in awe of you.
And you know what? You've what you've, you know how
far you've gotten and you know, and surviving this.
Yeah, Yeah. So.
I agree with you. It's rare that there's an actual
like couples therapy session that you believe it might be
real, you know, but actually, you know, but also they're not,
they're they're not going to therapy, you know, to get over
something, you know, that's, you know, wrongdoing, right?
Basically like making sure they get back on track and they'll
get sidetracked. With doing the work so they
don't get off. Exactly.
Yeah. Like, so you cheated on me.
You're like you remember? This bill engine Aiden therapy
session with that. Oh God.
Weird therapist. I see.
I don't believe any of those. I don't believe any of the.
It's purely her story, whereas this I think was, was real.
And I think it was interesting how she had that epiphany of,
you know, why I'm triggered by certain things because of like,
how I, you know, what happened as a child.
And they're like, oh, good on you, you know.
Yeah. Like an epiphany, an epiphany, a
real epiphany in a conventional Who knew?
It happens from time to time. I forgot there was some Kiki and
some. For a second, for a second, that
one scene with her and her. Daughter.
And then what's her face? Adriana.
She's like studying for
something. Yeah, and then she's also being
horny for Australians. If I wasn't a Frenchie, I was
just like, I, I don't know why. Like on New York, it's
endearing. Like with Luanne and Sonia and
and everyone like flirt with the younger guys.
I was like, OK, that's endearing.
Also, like Adriana doesn't seem that like cougary.
I know she's I know she's going to be 60 this year, but it she
doesn't look it. Yeah, right.
So and she's also like seems like a a nicer person.
Maybe not some aerosol, but I think you know, the fact that
she has Gertie's back and she was really like supportive of
Lisa. I, I like her.
I wish there was more of her. I would want more Adriana than
and less Marisol. Oh really?
I'm I like? Her dislike Marisol but I feel
like I just I wouldn't want more right?
Right. Yes.
OK, I can see that. Yeah, yeah.
Get some of that. It's really interesting.
I've been hearing a lot of stuff lately about it was on News
Radio today. They were talking about how, you
know, oh, it's because recently they, they released a bunch of
stats about I think cities in the Bay Area and they're like
projected age demographics over the next 30 years and how
different regions of the Bay are going to get older.
And like, you know, places right now that are, you know,
basically filled with 40 and 50 year olds who have just bought
property. Well, they're not going to be
leaving that property likely. So in the next 30 years, these
places that are now considered kind of young and like mobile
are going to become old communities and things like
that. So Long story short, or sorry,
long story long, as they were saying, is they keep talking
about Wilford Brimley and how Wilford Brimley and Cocoon was
only 47 or something like that. What's.
Yeah. And how there's just in the time
from when Cocoon was a thing, of course, he was 47.
I think because of his looks he was supposed to be playing
someone older. I mean, we're taking a little
for like diabetes. Yeah, diabetes like.
Yeah. OK, he was, I think not even 50
when he was in Cocoon. That's what the radio was saying
and all that. And so the whole, the whole
concept of the way that people are aging these days, there's so
much better technology, there's so much health.
And just the kind of social view on aging is so different because
they were saying that like, you know, in the 80s, someone's 60
year old parents were like, well, I got 1 foot in the grave.
Whereas now you're 60 and you're like, well, I got 20 more good
years plus go through all that. So I might have a 10 year old.
Yeah, exactly. You know, people having kids
later, all that stuff has led to a whole different change of
what, you know, what you're supposed to be when you're 60,
right? So perception, it is definitely
interesting and. Is that a segue into Stephanie
and her and her husband? Oh I forgot that even didn't
even talk about that. The fact that her husband is 2
years younger than her father. That is mind blowing.
I can't imagine. Yeah.
Like if you were 84, wait, my dad's 85.
If you were 83, three. Yeah.
I just can't imagine. Cannot.
I just can't imagine. No.
Yeah. No, it was a real trip with my
ex. His mom is a two years older
than my oldest brother. So when so when my mom would
talk to her, it was always kind of like a daughterly sort of
things, but also at the same time like, well, we're both
parents situation. So it was always very trippy to
be like, oh wow, they're so close as age, but.
That's I realized there's a close man.
Yeah, that's my brother. And then, you know, what could
have been Once Upon a time, you know, my mother-in-law.
But that, you know, wasn't exactly the same thing as my
mother, you know, if they were, you know, that's.
Well, I told you about Catherine Zia Jones, how her father and
Michael Douglas were the same age roughly when they got
married. It's.
I mean, it's sort of thing where, like, you know, age
differences aren't as big of a thing when you're young.
I mean, it's a big thing when you're younger, but like when
you're both kind of in your middle age, it's not a huge
deal. Like I guess when there's a 25
year difference though, you're always kind of in a spot that is
is going to be a little awkward sooner rather than later.
Feel like 10 is like a big difference but like, you know,
25? Well, they say a generation is
starts at 12 years. And so that's where like if
you're 12 years different, you're kind of on the cusp of
like being in different generations.
So like you kind of start to perceive things and you perceive
time differently, you know, the way that, yeah, world events,
you know, gone by all that stuff.
So 12 would be weird, but so you double that and you're 24 years.
Well, it's, you know, with us, I think one thing we relate on so
many things because we're, so we're two years apart, right?
And we experience things, you know, the 90s, well, the 80s and
90s, whatever. And movies like we just have
this a lot of the same points of reference, right?
And you really don't have that one.
There's that much of an age difference.
Yeah. I mean, I think about that as
well. Like, I wonder if, you know, we
didn't have the shorthand of being able to be like, oh, the
90s, you know? Yeah.
Or the 2000s. Yeah.
You know, we'd find other things to talk about and we'd have
other things in common. And, you know, we just wouldn't
necessarily have those things in common.
But because of that, we're able to kind of, you know, use that
shorthand to keep talking about that.
But there's like music that you've never heard and I've
never heard that you listen to, but you know, etcetera.
Right. But on a lot of things that we
do, for sure, yeah, yeah, for sure.
I guess the whole point of that scene also is to say she's a
strange member from her sisters, as are her parents.
It feels like these the twin sisters have basically just gone
off on their little island and they don't talk to anybody else.
It was kind of catty what Stephanie said that like, you
know, they were already had a strained relationship with their
parents, but when they had, you know, when they had a falling
out with her, it got even worse with the parents because the
parents love her so much. That's it's kind of what I read.
Yeah. Like my parents think I'm
amazing. And so when my sisters got mad
at me, my parents got mad at that.
Also, it's like, you know, I'm so tough and they're so
sensitive and like they just, you know, need to toughen up and
was the like the parents. The parents are like they're
like like from another planet. It's like, or they're just
different and you're. Yeah, yeah.
No judgments here on their parenting, but.
Yes. I did think about that though,
like parenting, like telling a little kid not to cry, or like
don't. Cry.
That's how we have toxic males. I know, right?
And so it's one thing to be like encouraging.
It's just, it's always the right measurement of it though.
So it's like, it's one thing to be encouraging and be like,
call, you know, don't you? Don't, you know, you don't need
to cry right here. You can get through it depending
upon what it is like encouraging someone to, you know, keep their
composure and get through it. That's good.
If you're running a marathon and you're, you know, stepping on
glass or something, you know, I don't know, there's, there's,
there's an instance where like that sort of tough love, I think
is good. But if you know you're just
being a kid and you just start to cry and someone's like.
Don't cry. That's it's like, yes, you fell
off your bike, you know, you can get back on but if you need a
moment to compose yourself and yeah, I knew that hurt when you
fell on your, you know, off the bike, but let's, you know, clean
you up and get back on the bike. Yeah, not just like you can't
cry. It's like then you can't show
emotion. It's a whole therapy bill
waiting to. Happen.
I know so. Yeah, yeah.
And that's why you're not closer to your sisters.
We we won't be like that if we have kids.
No, we're we're, you know, we're not going to be the people that
are like completely like coddling, but.
Also no, there's got to be an in between of coddling and overly
tough love. Yeah, it's called good cop, bad
cop, right? Is that how that works?
That probably will help be how it goes because you know, you're
like Willy nilly, anything goes and I'm just like, Nope.
I am not Willy nilly, anything goes.
Well, I just come from a place of no SO.
That's true. And I come from a place of yes,
yes, I come from a place. So sure, why not?
I'm a, I'm a yes and and you're, that's why you don't do.
It And why would you do that? Why would I do improv?
That's very true. That seems horrible.
How have we talked about everybody?
We have talked about everybody. All right.
I think it's a good show. I am really tired.
I am tired, like my eyes are tired and I'm warm and I need to
not be in this room again. All right, well, let's, we'll,
we'll talk about all this next time.
Till next time.