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Welcome to the episode of 
Husbands Watching Housewives. 

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I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we 
just watched episode of The Real

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Housewives of Miami. 
Yeah. 

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And I don't, yeah, I don't see 
what people like in Miami. 

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I think that's what I'm coming 
down to. 

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I don't. 
I don't get what people see in 

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it. 
I let's see. 

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Yeah. 
I don't know. 

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I don't dislike it. 
I'm just not. 

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It's not as amazing. 
Right. 

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It's just there's some good 
parts, some good points, some 

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moments, but like. 
Like I think I was oversold is 

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definitely how I feel like 
everyone was saying, oh, it's 

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it's as good or better than Salt
Lake some people. 

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Who said that? 
Weren't they? 

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You know what they were saying. 
Excuse me, who? 

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Said that I know this is so 
weird because like it just seems

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to be the same things over and 
over again. 

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Not that the other franchises 
aren't the same things over and 

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over again, but like the the 
drama just doesn't seem like at 

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all. 
The height it's and we always 

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talk about like low stakes 
drama, but like kind of this 

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just isn't, this is no stakes. 
Trauma, yeah, like low stakes 

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trauma would be next Gen. 
NYC where it's just like, it's a

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little petty. 
It's a little right, You know, 

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someone might get their feelings
hurt, but barely really. 

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And then they just get over by 
the next episode. 

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This is just. 
This is Julia and Gertie going 

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at it back and forth, the same 
thing over and over again. 

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Lisa and Larsa going at it, same
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Everyone and I know every 
housewife show does this. 

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They promise they're going to 
get over it and they don't get 

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over it and they come back to it
over all over again, which, OK, 

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fine, but it's like they're just
what they're beefing about is 

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doesn't even seem to be like, 
what the hell are they even? 

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I don't. 
Think about, I think it's terms 

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of like Lisa and Larsa. 
I don't even know what the issue

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is of you didn't support me with
my breakup with Marcus. 

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You said bad things about my 
boyfriend and Jody. 

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You're lying about this. 
You're lying about that. 

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You're a narcissist. 
You're a narcissist. 

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You know, it just seemed. 
I don't know what the anger 

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comes from. 
You know, the clearest thing to 

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me was you were saying nasty 
things to me or, or, or texting 

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me angry things when I was going
through my dad dying. 

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That's the clearest offense I 
can see. 

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Anything else just seems kind of
like superficial, you know, like

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Jody being friends with Marcus. 
Barely. 

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Yeah. 
Is cause for you to get so upset

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and then slander Jody. 
I don't know. 

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Yeah, yeah, it just. 
Yeah, I'm not. 

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And then they get to a good 
place by the end of the episode.

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For now. 
For now, as you say, this could.

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Change, change. 
A dime. 

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And I think also because even 
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friends, you know, but there's 
only the six and you know, the 

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five in the new one, it just 
seems like their their drama is 

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just recycled. 
Well, because the friends don't 

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have drama with them, you know? 
Yeah, yeah, Marisol and Adriana 

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and kick your like, in and out 
and bring out their own natural 

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stuff, right? 
So yeah. 

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And so that just basically 
leaves it. 

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So it's this whole Lisa Larsa 
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Alexia out there being all like,
I'm going to have a narcissist 

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party. 
So it was. 

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I mean, it's better than an old 
Hollywood party. 

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I'll start there. 
And I have to say that the red 

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flag game. 
Was actually pretty good, yeah. 

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It was actually like for for 
being a housewives game. 

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I was like, well, this isn't 
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inflammatory into the situation.
If if the red flags have been 

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spread out amongst more people, 
it would have been better 

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because then they really could 
have talked about more had this 

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been so like there would have 
been everyone would have gotten 

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red flags and they were everyone
got in like, you know, shit 

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talked, but it's just purely was
focused on Lisa and. 

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Lisa got defensive and just was 
went. 

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I went. 
Too 'cause it did seem like a 

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dogpile, yeah. 
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Also, I think instead of calling
it a game, they should have 

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called it an exercise 'cause if 
this thing was to be like there 

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to like learn about our 
everyone's narcissistic 

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tendencies, like even including 
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exercise would be better than a 
game to seem like they're having

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fun. 
There's no fun unleashed. 

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What also wasn't fun was those 
dumb sayings on the mirror. 

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It was like basically he took 
his Instagram and put it on 

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mirrors throughout this very 
pretty event space they were at.

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But it was dumb. 
Like it was so dumb. 

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I mean, I liked. 
It the only thing you should 

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write on mirrors is your wedding
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Say it. 
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wedding, our wedding mirror, but
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the first, certainly not the 
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Stole it from the people who had
the wedding when? 

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We went and looked at the yeah, 
yeah, yeah. 

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Yeah, we totally still got it in
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Garage. 
We should hang that up 

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somewhere. 
We should. 

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We should. 
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collecting dust in the garage. 
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Where should we put that? 
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with the wedding photo, which is
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And that just a little bit more 
a little too like hello that. 

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'D be a lot of self examination 
for people though. 

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I mean, I did think it was fun 
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through and reading the you got 
to see. 

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The I just caught it, I just 
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He's holding up a mirror for 
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Wow. 
See, yeah, took you a little 

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while there, but at the same 
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were taking it. 
I mean, some of them were taking

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it to heart, but many of them 
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And, well, Lexi was like, oh, 
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Like, oh, yeah, that's so me. 
Like everyone was like, oh, 

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yeah, that's me. 
Oh, no, that's me, you know? 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, but I mean, that's the 

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thing. 
I, I think the ones that were 

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able to say like, yeah, OK, 
we're all a little narcissistic.

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They got so reflection 
assignment, you know. 

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I get it you. 
Seriously. 

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Not Yeah. 
No, I didn't. 

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I get it. 
I thought he just was putting up

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stuff on on mirror. 
I didn't get that it was self 

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reflection. 
It doesn't. 

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It doesn't change the fact that 
it's still cheesy. 

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It's still. 
Cheesy and dumb. 

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Also it was like a lipstick on a
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Like, like, yeah, it was 
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Yeah, or it might have been. 
It was some lipstick looking 

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thing. 
It might have been like nail 

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Polish. 
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Like some. 
We had a silver, we had a white.

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Paint Marker. 
Paint Marker. 

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Yeah, so it was probably some 
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but. 
That would be off putting if we 

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put that right at our. 
Yeah, it's really. 

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Weird, and I don't want to put 
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Oh, I guess we could. 
I mean, where else could we put?

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It that's the problem, we have 
to put it up here. 

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But yeah, man, we'll figure 
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Maybe. 
We need a bigger out maybe. 

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I was just saying maybe we'll 
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the mirror and we'll put some, 
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there. 
No, we can't clear our wedding 

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date off. 
Maybe we'll just hang it in the 

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garage so whenever we pull in 
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garage. 
What you don't see is that we 

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have like our table assignment 
board up there above our wet 

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bar. 
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See that by you, I mean, like 
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You, not you. 
I was. 

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Like, well, I was also. 
Why are you pointing at the bar?

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Yeah, I was like, oh, okay, yes,
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Just forget about it 'cause we 
don't really use that wet bar 

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ever. 
Well, it gets hot up here. 

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We know this is not an 
entertaining space. 

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It's not an entertaining space. 
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of getting or you know, 'cause 
we went looked at that open 

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House of the model, like our 
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I'm thinking maybe I should get 
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Or a fan. 
We could have a fan like right 

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here. 
We should have a fan we. 

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Should have a fan. 
It wouldn't. 

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Oh my God, why have we not 
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putting in a ceiling fan? 
Everything else we've added to 

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this house and we've never 
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Why not put a ceiling fan? 
And honestly, we want to put one

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on this end and 1:00 on that end
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lights in the middle of ruin the
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Yes, that's probably why I never
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there because. 
Next tomorrow when you're at the

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office, Google, like, what would
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fan? 
Next tomorrow I will Google that

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Ceiling fans are rather 
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Just getting someone to come do 
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ceiling and wire. 
Oh, we got to do that, Yeah, 

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but. 
You know it's worth doing. 

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We should have had ants. 
We should have had the people 

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who did our. 
Should have that construction 

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company do it, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, and then we would can stop
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hotter than hey. 
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Although maybe may see again 
cutting out the middle manage, 

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getting an air conditioner might
be the right way to go. 

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We already have air 
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We. 
Have air conditioning, we have 

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central air conditioning, but it
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It needs to have like we need to
have like 1 unit that just pumps

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it up here and keeps it cool 
separately. 

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But I'll, I will look into our 
options. 

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So we will not bore our hair 
listening. 

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Yeah, these details. 
So it's yeah, we so we covered 

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the party. 
It started with the party. 

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I, I will say Lisa needed to 
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being late. 
I like her and all, but that was

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just dumb. 
Like you were two hours late and

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Stephanie ended up apologizing 
to her, which I thought was very

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surprising. 
Right. 

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Good on her. 
But there should have been more 

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of an apology from Lisa, just as
at the end of the episode, she 

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should have, taking more 
accountability as opposed to 

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saying, like, I'm sorry, I 
didn't know that you were 

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feeling that way. 
Just say I'm sorry for my 

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behavior, not like you caused my
behavior because you didn't tell

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me you were feeling a certain 
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She really used to work on her. 
Apologies. 

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You know, even her interactions 
with Stephanie at that party 

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where the like they were clearly
trying to like be gloss things 

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over and make nice it. 
What you said towards the end is

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that they're really just all 
kind of vapid like. 

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Varsa and Lisa are so vapid. 
Yeah, and. 

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So vapid and like, the they're 
only really. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, narcissism really is the

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key here. 
I mean, no, I don't, I don't 

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like throwing around the word 
narcissism. 

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And, you know, that's a serious 
personality disorder. 

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And like to sit there and just 
say, you know, they're tossing 

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it around like it's just like, 
oh, look at us. 

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We're narcissists. 
Like like there's Jax Taylor, an

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obvious narcissist and then 
these there's just vapid 

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housewives who are really self 
obsessed. 

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Well, that's why it's all, I 
think it's all right to be self 

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obsessed to a point, especially 
when the way you make your money

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is, you know, by being pretty 
and posting photos on Instagram 

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and endorsing, you know, and 
being on housewives or on the 

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Valley, whatever it is. 
That's fine to a point. 

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Like whatever. 
I think it's good. 

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It's one thing to be pretty, but
it's like when you're so stuck 

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on being pretty, the fact that 
Larsa will actually says it too 

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is so any any moment it's like, 
oh, let me pick up my phone, 

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look at myself. 
I can't imagine that if I was a 

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gorgeous lady, maybe I'm like, 
oh, I look really damn good. 

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Look at my Tatas, look at my 
whatever, look at my butt. 

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But I don't think I would just 
pick up my phone at any. 

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Whenever some there's like a 
lull, right? 

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It's like, look at me and like, 
how many times can you look at 

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yourself in one day? 
I'm stuck on the idea of you 

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being a gorgeous lady now. 
Don't you just. 

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I want to describe women as 
gorgeous women. 

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These now. 
Gorgeous lady. 

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No, it's not even that. 
It's also that like they're, 

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it's the competition that like, 
it's not that they have to be 

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prettier than each other, it's 
just that like there's only room

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for one of them to be pretty at 
a time. 

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And now it seems like it's just 
some weird unspoken competition 

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and it. 
Maybe that's Miami. 

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Maybe it is, there's just 
there's room enough for everyone

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to do their own thing. 
I just don't know why. 

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Like everyone seems to be a 
little bit up their own. 

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Very much. 
More up their own and they 

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refuse to acknowledge that it's 
others can be up their own as 

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well, you know so. 
It's just they're not seeing 

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each other. 
They're not hearing each other. 

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I mean, they made some progress 
at the end when they said we 

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should communicate better. 
Yes, you should. 

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And I also because I didn't why 
I haven't watched. 

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I don't buy that they were ever 
best friends. 

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Yeah, they're like, it's really 
surprising. 

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Yeah, like I want to be best 
friends again. 

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Like if I were just sitting 
there, I don't know. 

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Maybe they had a common enemy. 
That might have been Yeah, that 

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could have been the case. 
Yeah. 

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So that's also the thing. 
I was like, I, I, I guess it's 

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true. 
Like if I were going, I had a 

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falling out with a friend and 
you know, I who I was close with

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and we were having a 
conversation like that, I would 

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be like, I do want to be best 
friends again, or I do want to 

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be good friends again, but like 
to expect it to happen right 

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then and there again, that's 
maybe one of those things that I

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think is the, you know, men are 
from Mars women or from Venus 

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situation that like is that a 
thing with women or is that just

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something that we're led to 
believe from housewife? 

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Yes, a little bit of column A 
little bit of column B. 

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Because, you know, we have, I 
mean, it's so with the whole 

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Julian Gertie thing, which we're
not going to get into because 

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the last three episodes we've 
gotten into it over and over 

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and. 
Over. 

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I mean, I was going to touch on 
it briefly. 

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Yeah, we'll talk on it briefly. 
But like, I liked how Gertie was

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saying that. 
Like what I was wanting from my 

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friends was for them to support 
me and support us reconciling. 

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So then of course, Gertie goes 
overboard and tries to get 

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Larson. 
Yeah. 

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That was a lot. 
That was a little bit annoying. 

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And she was mediating and she 
was. 

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Interpreting right? 
And I get it because it was 

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starting to go South or left 
whichever direction you wanted 

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to go. 
When they just start, you know, 

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Larsa was going in the wrong 
way. 

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But at the same time, if that's 
the way Larsa's going to go at 

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it, then you got to let her fail
or succeed on her and get. 

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To it. 
It's like they were rehashing a 

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lot of the same things, but at 
least maybe they could have. 

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They needed to be by themselves.
And they finally got there. 

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Yeah. 
Because that's what wasn't 

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happening. 
It was always like these fights 

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at parties. 
Exactly. 

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Exactly. 
But no with the Julian Gertie 

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thing. 
I just passive aggressive. 

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Polly, what do you do when your 
friend doesn't want to move past

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an issue and they didn't 
apologize really fully for 

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hurting your feelings? 
That didn't happen, Julia. 

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And that's all I'm going to say.
You're just one, being passive 

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aggressive until the guy made 
you say Gritty's name, and then 

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two, speaking. 
I'm not. 

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I'm tired Speaking, not facts. 
You're not. 

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You're you're Yeah, you're not. 
You're only telling your side of

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the story, right? 
Which is like, this happened 

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after you assaulted Gertie and 
she was really peeved from grace

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of assault. 
But that's what happened. 

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So I don't know. 
Her version of the truth is 

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really muddy. 
Yeah, very, very strange. 

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They're getting off of them 
though, the whole social worker 

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thing. 
I really think it's surprising 

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that they were allowed to have a
conversation with a social 

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worker about their adopted 
children on camera. 

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It makes me wonder if it's 
actually the social worker 

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that's assigned to the case, or 
if it's just. 

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A a social worker. 
Good point. 

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But also makes me wonder, like, 
you know, is everything legal in

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Florida? 
I mean, is that part of their 

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their latest political movement 
is, you know, we have no 

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regulations? 
I mean, definitely and yeah, 

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yeah, yeah, I I didn't that 
scene was really off putting me 

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it. 
Very seems very strange that you

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know they would discuss the and 
again, it's a situation where I 

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thought with adoption you at 
least you know until everything 

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was final, you can't even show 
pictures, but maybe they're 

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showing pictures retroactively 
because it is final now. 

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Oh, you're true. 
You're right. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, but it just either way, it

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just seems, it just feels. 
Because they weren't on camera 

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like they always have been 
pictures. 

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We haven't seen them on camera. 
They weren't filming with them. 

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Right. 
Just seems really really strange

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and doesn't feel quite right 
but. 

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It's something is off. 
There it also like if that was a

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social worker, why wasn't 
Martina in there with them 

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that's. 
What I was wondering too, if 

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this is like a court appointed, 
you know, you have to have this 

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meeting and then you know, in 
order to move forward with the 

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adoption process. 
I'm guessing that was a social 

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worker. 
Yeah. 

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Not the social worker, No. 
Like it's something you know, 

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created just for the show. 
Just as I talked to Yeah. 

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And I thought what was a better 
scene was Gertie and Russell in 

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their therapy finally, like an 
actual real couples therapy 

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session that they're not tearing
each other down. 

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It's not bullshit. 
They were actually having a 

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conversation about how they feel
and you know, their post cancer 

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lives. 
And I thought it was really 

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interesting. 
I didn't know they were high 

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school sweethearts, anything 
really about them except for 

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what I've heard, You know, that 
he was very supportive and, and 

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obviously is. 
And I like when he said, I'm not

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a caretaker. 
I'm not trying to be a 

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caretaker. 
I'm just really in awe of you. 

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And you know what? 
You've what you've, you know how

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far you've gotten and you know, 
and surviving this. 

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Yeah, Yeah. 
So. 

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I agree with you. 
It's rare that there's an actual

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like couples therapy session 
that you believe it might be 

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real, you know, but actually, 
you know, but also they're not, 

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they're they're not going to 
therapy, you know, to get over 

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something, you know, that's, you
know, wrongdoing, right? 

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Basically like making sure they 
get back on track and they'll 

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get sidetracked. 
With doing the work so they 

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don't get off. 
Exactly. 

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Yeah. 
Like, so you cheated on me. 

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You're like you remember? 
This bill engine Aiden therapy 

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session with that. 
Oh God. 

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Weird therapist. 
I see. 

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I don't believe any of those. 
I don't believe any of the. 

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It's purely her story, whereas 
this I think was, was real. 

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And I think it was interesting 
how she had that epiphany of, 

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you know, why I'm triggered by 
certain things because of like, 

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how I, you know, what happened 
as a child. 

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And they're like, oh, good on 
you, you know. 

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Yeah. 
Like an epiphany, an epiphany, a

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real epiphany in a conventional 
Who knew? 

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It happens from time to time. 
I forgot there was some Kiki and

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some. 
For a second, for a second, that

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one scene with her and her. 
Daughter. 

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And then what's her face? 
Adriana. 

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Adriana. 
She's like studying for 

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something. 
Yeah, and then she's also being 

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horny for Australians. 
If I wasn't a Frenchie, I was 

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just like, I, I don't know why. 
Like on New York, it's 

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endearing. 
Like with Luanne and Sonia and 

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and everyone like flirt with the
younger guys. 

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I was like, OK, that's 
endearing. 

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Also, like Adriana doesn't seem 
that like cougary. 

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I know she's I know she's going 
to be 60 this year, but it she 

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doesn't look it. 
Yeah, right. 

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So and she's also like seems 
like a a nicer person. 

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Maybe not some aerosol, but I 
think you know, the fact that 

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she has Gertie's back and she 
was really like supportive of 

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Lisa. 
I, I like her. 

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I wish there was more of her. 
I would want more Adriana than 

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and less Marisol. 
Oh really? 

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I'm I like? 
Her dislike Marisol but I feel 

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like I just I wouldn't want more
right? 

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Right. 
Yes. 

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OK, I can see that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Get some of that. 
It's really interesting. 

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I've been hearing a lot of stuff
lately about it was on News 

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Radio today. 
They were talking about how, you

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know, oh, it's because recently 
they, they released a bunch of 

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stats about I think cities in 
the Bay Area and they're like 

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projected age demographics over 
the next 30 years and how 

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different regions of the Bay are
going to get older. 

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And like, you know, places right
now that are, you know, 

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basically filled with 40 and 50 
year olds who have just bought 

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property. 
Well, they're not going to be 

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leaving that property likely. 
So in the next 30 years, these 

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places that are now considered 
kind of young and like mobile 

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are going to become old 
communities and things like 

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that. 
So Long story short, or sorry, 

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long story long, as they were 
saying, is they keep talking 

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about Wilford Brimley and how 
Wilford Brimley and Cocoon was 

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only 47 or something like that. 
What's. 

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Yeah. 
And how there's just in the time

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from when Cocoon was a thing, of
course, he was 47. 

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I think because of his looks he 
was supposed to be playing 

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someone older. 
I mean, we're taking a little 

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for like diabetes. 
Yeah, diabetes like. 

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Yeah. 
OK, he was, I think not even 50 

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when he was in Cocoon. 
That's what the radio was saying

430
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and all that. 
And so the whole, the whole 

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concept of the way that people 
are aging these days, there's so

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much better technology, there's 
so much health. 

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And just the kind of social view
on aging is so different because

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they were saying that like, you 
know, in the 80s, someone's 60 

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year old parents were like, 
well, I got 1 foot in the grave.

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Whereas now you're 60 and you're
like, well, I got 20 more good 

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years plus go through all that. 
So I might have a 10 year old. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
You know, people having kids 

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later, all that stuff has led to
a whole different change of 

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what, you know, what you're 
supposed to be when you're 60, 

441
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right? 
So perception, it is definitely 

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interesting and. 
Is that a segue into Stephanie 

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and her and her husband? 
Oh I forgot that even didn't 

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even talk about that. 
The fact that her husband is 2 

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years younger than her father. 
That is mind blowing. 

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I can't imagine. 
Yeah. 

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Like if you were 84, wait, my 
dad's 85. 

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If you were 83, three. 
Yeah. 

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I just can't imagine. 
Cannot. 

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I just can't imagine. 
No. 

451
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Yeah. 
No, it was a real trip with my 

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ex. 
His mom is a two years older 

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than my oldest brother. 
So when so when my mom would 

454
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,040
talk to her, it was always kind 
of like a daughterly sort of 

455
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:23,120
things, but also at the same 
time like, well, we're both 

456
00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:26,080
parents situation. 
So it was always very trippy to 

457
00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:27,560
be like, oh wow, they're so 
close as age, but. 

458
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,800
That's I realized there's a 
close man. 

459
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,120
Yeah, that's my brother. 
And then, you know, what could 

460
00:21:31,120 --> 00:21:33,200
have been Once Upon a time, you 
know, my mother-in-law. 

461
00:21:33,560 --> 00:21:37,000
But that, you know, wasn't 
exactly the same thing as my 

462
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:39,120
mother, you know, if they were, 
you know, that's. 

463
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,360
Well, I told you about Catherine
Zia Jones, how her father and 

464
00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:44,520
Michael Douglas were the same 
age roughly when they got 

465
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:45,400
married. 
It's. 

466
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,280
I mean, it's sort of thing 
where, like, you know, age 

467
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:52,120
differences aren't as big of a 
thing when you're young. 

468
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:54,240
I mean, it's a big thing when 
you're younger, but like when 

469
00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,440
you're both kind of in your 
middle age, it's not a huge 

470
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:58,920
deal. 
Like I guess when there's a 25 

471
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,800
year difference though, you're 
always kind of in a spot that is

472
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,400
is going to be a little awkward 
sooner rather than later. 

473
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:07,400
Feel like 10 is like a big 
difference but like, you know, 

474
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,560
25? 
Well, they say a generation is 

475
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,600
starts at 12 years. 
And so that's where like if 

476
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,640
you're 12 years different, 
you're kind of on the cusp of 

477
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:18,120
like being in different 
generations. 

478
00:22:18,120 --> 00:22:21,320
So like you kind of start to 
perceive things and you perceive

479
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,040
time differently, you know, the 
way that, yeah, world events, 

480
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,920
you know, gone by all that 
stuff. 

481
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:31,080
So 12 would be weird, but so you
double that and you're 24 years.

482
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,440
Well, it's, you know, with us, I
think one thing we relate on so 

483
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,040
many things because we're, so 
we're two years apart, right? 

484
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:42,280
And we experience things, you 
know, the 90s, well, the 80s and

485
00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:45,680
90s, whatever. 
And movies like we just have 

486
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,000
this a lot of the same points of
reference, right? 

487
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,080
And you really don't have that 
one. 

488
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,000
There's that much of an age 
difference. 

489
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,120
Yeah. 
I mean, I think about that as 

490
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:57,040
well. 
Like, I wonder if, you know, we 

491
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,520
didn't have the shorthand of 
being able to be like, oh, the 

492
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,560
90s, you know? 
Yeah. 

493
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,000
Or the 2000s. 
Yeah. 

494
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,640
You know, we'd find other things
to talk about and we'd have 

495
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,320
other things in common. 
And, you know, we just wouldn't 

496
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,120
necessarily have those things in
common. 

497
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:14,000
But because of that, we're able 
to kind of, you know, use that 

498
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:15,640
shorthand to keep talking about 
that. 

499
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,400
But there's like music that 
you've never heard and I've 

500
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,760
never heard that you listen to, 
but you know, etcetera. 

501
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,840
Right. 
But on a lot of things that we 

502
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,240
do, for sure, yeah, yeah, for 
sure. 

503
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,000
I guess the whole point of that 
scene also is to say she's a 

504
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,280
strange member from her sisters,
as are her parents. 

505
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,080
It feels like these the twin 
sisters have basically just gone

506
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,240
off on their little island and 
they don't talk to anybody else.

507
00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:42,800
It was kind of catty what 
Stephanie said that like, you 

508
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,960
know, they were already had a 
strained relationship with their

509
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,760
parents, but when they had, you 
know, when they had a falling 

510
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,680
out with her, it got even worse 
with the parents because the 

511
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,600
parents love her so much. 
That's it's kind of what I read.

512
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:55,640
Yeah. 
Like my parents think I'm 

513
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,920
amazing. 
And so when my sisters got mad 

514
00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,600
at me, my parents got mad at 
that. 

515
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,600
Also, it's like, you know, I'm 
so tough and they're so 

516
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,960
sensitive and like they just, 
you know, need to toughen up and

517
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,680
was the like the parents. 
The parents are like they're 

518
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,720
like like from another planet. 
It's like, or they're just 

519
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:14,440
different and you're. 
Yeah, yeah. 

520
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,920
No judgments here on their 
parenting, but. 

521
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,600
Yes. 
I did think about that though, 

522
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:26,200
like parenting, like telling a 
little kid not to cry, or like 

523
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:26,840
don't. 
Cry. 

524
00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:30,760
That's how we have toxic males. 
I know, right? 

525
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:34,400
And so it's one thing to be like
encouraging. 

526
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,960
It's just, it's always the right
measurement of it though. 

527
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,720
So it's like, it's one thing to 
be encouraging and be like, 

528
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,160
call, you know, don't you? 
Don't, you know, you don't need 

529
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,800
to cry right here. 
You can get through it depending

530
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,840
upon what it is like encouraging
someone to, you know, keep their

531
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,720
composure and get through it. 
That's good. 

532
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,840
If you're running a marathon and
you're, you know, stepping on 

533
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,200
glass or something, you know, I 
don't know, there's, there's, 

534
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,160
there's an instance where like 
that sort of tough love, I think

535
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,080
is good. 
But if you know you're just 

536
00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:01,720
being a kid and you just start 
to cry and someone's like. 

537
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,560
Don't cry. 
That's it's like, yes, you fell 

538
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,800
off your bike, you know, you can
get back on but if you need a 

539
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,960
moment to compose yourself and 
yeah, I knew that hurt when you 

540
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,760
fell on your, you know, off the 
bike, but let's, you know, clean

541
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,160
you up and get back on the bike.
Yeah, not just like you can't 

542
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,400
cry. 
It's like then you can't show 

543
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,520
emotion. 
It's a whole therapy bill 

544
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,080
waiting to. 
Happen. 

545
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,720
I know so. 
Yeah, yeah. 

546
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:25,680
And that's why you're not closer
to your sisters. 

547
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:28,840
We we won't be like that if we 
have kids. 

548
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,160
No, we're we're, you know, we're
not going to be the people that 

549
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:33,480
are like completely like 
coddling, but. 

550
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,880
Also no, there's got to be an in
between of coddling and overly 

551
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,760
tough love. 
Yeah, it's called good cop, bad 

552
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:41,520
cop, right? 
Is that how that works? 

553
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,440
That probably will help be how 
it goes because you know, you're

554
00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,240
like Willy nilly, anything goes 
and I'm just like, Nope. 

555
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,720
I am not Willy nilly, anything 
goes. 

556
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,000
Well, I just come from a place 
of no SO. 

557
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,000
That's true. 
And I come from a place of yes, 

558
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,240
yes, I come from a place. 
So sure, why not? 

559
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,480
I'm a, I'm a yes and and you're,
that's why you don't do. 

560
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,320
It And why would you do that? 
Why would I do improv? 

561
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:10,120
That's very true. 
That seems horrible. 

562
00:26:10,120 --> 00:26:11,520
How have we talked about 
everybody? 

563
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,040
We have talked about everybody. 
All right. 

564
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,760
I think it's a good show. 
I am really tired. 

565
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:20,520
I am tired, like my eyes are 
tired and I'm warm and I need to

566
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,040
not be in this room again. 
All right, well, let's, we'll, 

567
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,520
we'll talk about all this next 
time. 

568
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,320
Till next time.
