1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,520 Welcome to the episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:05,960 I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we just watched an episode of The 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:07,520 Real Housewives of Orange County. 4 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Yes, the penultimate episode of. The penultimate it has. 5 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,960 We do love a penultimate. Yes, they were in Amsterdam. 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,560 Day 2. Day 2, apparently of a million 7 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:21,080 days. When you heard Emily, you'd be 8 00:00:21,080 --> 00:00:22,680 like, I'll be home in three days. 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,440 It's like, are you counting the travel days? 10 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,640 Because I'm sure it takes a lot of time to get to Amsterdam and 11 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:31,360 maybe it might take a. A detour somewhere? 12 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,000 Yeah, because Shannon was saying that she was going to detour to 13 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,480 London or Paris to see her daughter, so maybe Emily's going 14 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:42,880 with her or some such. Maybe, perhaps, yeah, yeah, As 15 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,720 I, I was going to say, I do want to call it Amsterdam because I 16 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:48,080 just enjoy doing that all the time. 17 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,720 So I was trying to figure out where they were staying in. 18 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,520 Comparison. All right, if you're listening 19 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,200 to this episode, you already knew what We just figured out 20 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,720 the name of this episode on our podcast. 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:03,320 Damn, Gina. No. 22 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,280 Amsterdam. Damn, Gina got it. 23 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:07,920 Because Gina. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 24 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,600 She was unconsciously story shit in this one. 25 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,760 He was like, I'm living the story or I'm just falling down. 26 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:20,440 Right, I'm debating whether to just pick a new theme song for a 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,800 temporary theme song from our but I I don't want to. 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,080 I can't trust the music library from our platform. 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,840 No, and we have not heard back from our platform. 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:29,720 No, and that's making me nervous too. 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,160 Yeah. So they're like trying to figure 32 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,880 out what's going to happen. Or or. 33 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:37,840 My other worry is that there's just no one working there. 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,320 They're just like, whatever, hey, keep going. 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,440 We're on fall break. Yeah, I did. 36 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,920 I mean, we haven't noticed any other episodes being pulled, so 37 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:52,720 you know that that would be good if we see one drop off from. 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,400 But when I don't want to risk, I don't want to risk another one 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,160 dropping off, then I have to re edit crap. 40 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,880 So I'm just we're going to go music lists for now. 41 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:01,560 Did you actually listen to the last episode? 42 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:02,880 I didn't. I haven't. 43 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,040 I don't do it very often. Unless you're in the car with me 44 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,320 and I make you. Yeah, not make you I just like I 45 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:14,120 just I'm not usually when I'm by myself, I'm usually reading or I 46 00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,560 can't do it Maybe tomorrow when I'm working from home I can 47 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,680 listen to because that's why I listen to the podcast typically 48 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,440 because I think they would frown upon it in my office, but he. 49 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:24,920 Won't use headphones, that's why. 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,840 Well, I don't want to be like, you know, I can't imagine my 51 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,680 former Co worker would like have headphones in and probably maybe 52 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:33,480 listening to music or maybe a podcast. 53 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,280 And it's like, you gotta like, take them out, answer the phone 54 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:41,240 and, you know, yeah, I'm just, yeah, I think if I'm a solitary 55 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,720 office podcast listener. So I need to be in the Home 56 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,960 Office, being the office in our home. 57 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,120 Not your off, not your. Not my works Home Office. 58 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,240 No, no, no. Yeah, my work is one of those 59 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:57,640 companies that they work. This was before it was all like 60 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,920 a red flag of a toxic work environment when they're like, 61 00:03:00,920 --> 00:03:02,000 you know, we're like a family here. 62 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,120 That's why we call it the Home Office. 63 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,080 It's like our home, Yes. And then a few years later, 64 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,400 there weren't like that whole all those memes started up about 65 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,600 like when you work somewhere and they call it, you say you're a 66 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:13,800 family. That's a red flag. 67 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,440 So it's a dysfunctional family. Yes, they have stopped saying so 68 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,520 much that we're a family. I think also because they 69 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,520 realize it's a little patronizing, I think after. 70 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:25,440 Well, it's like we're a much smaller company than your 71 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,960 company where I work and we've never, they've never said that. 72 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,600 I think we're just like we're more like we're chill and we're 73 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:34,240 more laid back, but it's never like we're a family. 74 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,960 We don't kumbaya, we don't do team building exercises in the 75 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,600 escape room. We should maybe try doing that. 76 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Well, that wasn't the whole company. 77 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,000 That was just our department. So. 78 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,080 And I think that's because, you know, Ken, he was in town. 79 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,640 So yeah, anyway. Oh goodness. 80 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,920 OK, so housewife, where did it start? 81 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,760 Crap, now that you said that, sure, go ahead. 82 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,480 It's Day 2 in Amsterdam. They're waking up. 83 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:06,920 Shannon is a little bit having a after the space cake day and 84 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:08,680 trying to. Little come down, little pot 85 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,680 hangover. Will come down spilling her. 86 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:12,480 Was that wine juice? It looked. 87 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:14,960 Like or was this grape juice? It could have been tea. 88 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,200 I don't think it was great. It was very. 89 00:04:16,399 --> 00:04:18,640 Dark. It was very dark, so maybe it 90 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,920 was Coke a cola. Could have been Coca-Cola, yes. 91 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,240 Yeah. But I did because. 92 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,600 She like spilled her. She's like, really I? 93 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Didn't see, I thought it was wine because it looked a little 94 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,600 purpley. But like, who was wine like that 95 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,840 Urban that? Was my confusion as well, but 96 00:04:31,840 --> 00:04:34,040 unless their time zones were still off I don't know. 97 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:35,720 Yeah, but you're not in Italy, you're in hamster. 98 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,480 Now I know, right? So yeah, they're basically like 99 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,200 recovering from the day. And then they were gonna, oh, 100 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,280 they went to the tulips, right? Yeah, they ultimately went to 101 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,560 the tulips, yes. So it was them doing their hair 102 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,120 and getting ready and stuff like that. 103 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:50,960 Right. Without any. 104 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:52,400 I don't think anyone brought glam. 105 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,800 No, I don't think they did either. 106 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:54,160 Yeah. Yeah. 107 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,280 Because it was funny that Gina had that line about you find me 108 00:04:57,280 --> 00:05:00,120 a Q-tip and Emily was like, you expect me to find a Q-tip and 109 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,800 this disaster Aries. There are no Q-tips. 110 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,320 It was interesting seeing them kind of doing their own hair and 111 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,680 then like, I think they all came out pretty well, you know? 112 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:11,440 Well, except for Shannon. I think she's always going to be 113 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,560 challenged, but she's not a beautician, you know? 114 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,000 Right, right. So I think she's like a person 115 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,720 who's just used to having glam do it for her. 116 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,680 So yeah, yeah, yeah. It was. 117 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:24,520 She was thinking it came before the tulips. 118 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,000 It was really straight to the tulips, right? 119 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,840 You know, I think we're missing. Something but it got to the 120 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:33,640 lobby and it was like because they weren't really rehashing 121 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,800 the previous day because something really happened big in 122 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,640 day one except the the red light thing. 123 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Oh, OK, there we're I know where we're going. 124 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:43,440 OK all. Right. 125 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:43,920 Thanks. Thank you. 126 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,720 God, you're here. So they're towing through the 127 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:50,440 tulips. Oh, Gina and Heather do 128 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,120 mushrooms. Yes, they do. 129 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:54,560 They can't brand some colors. See how we call her? 130 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,320 That's true. Heather, like, being so like, 131 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,200 pro drug just because she's in Amsterdam is really amusing to 132 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,280 me. Yeah, She's like, I want to see 133 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:03,680 colors. Let's do some shrimp. 134 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,840 Sheena I mean, if there's ever a time to to see colors, it's it's 135 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:08,360 definitely there with the flowers and stuff. 136 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,360 I always think the only other place that might be fun would be 137 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,600 like if you were to go see the foliage change, like see the 138 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,520 fall leaves somewhere, that'd be cool. 139 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:16,720 But the. Thing is that when Heather's not 140 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,440 being highfalutin Heather or Fancy Pants, she can actually be 141 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,800 really a good time. You know, it's kind of like 142 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,880 people are saying you're not fun, you know? 143 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,080 Aside from her, like many years as a sitcom actress. 144 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:28,680 Shout out. Shout out. 145 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,120 She's not funny. Well, they kind of go hand in 146 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:34,200 hand. Yeah, that's very funny. 147 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:34,960 But. Shout out to who? 148 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,080 I ruin your joke. Heather Yeah, thanks. 149 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,720 Sorry, I was trying to say it and you're like, step, step. 150 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:42,560 Let me step on that joke. Yeah. 151 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:44,920 Shout out to Heather Paige Kent. Oh, yeah. 152 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:50,280 When she was a comedic actress. So no, they do the tulips. 153 00:06:50,280 --> 00:06:54,680 It was very pretty that definitely I would go there and 154 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:56,280 then. Apparently it was really hot. 155 00:06:56,280 --> 00:06:58,480 It did not convey to me how hot it was. 156 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:01,440 Yes, so oh, you're right, they did go straight to the tulips, 157 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,360 because then they did a weird little hot tub canal thing. 158 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,680 Which weird, it's so hot, why are you in a hot tub? 159 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,400 But we'll. I think just so it's not cold. 160 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:10,280 I mean, they probably let it get lukewarm. 161 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,480 I don't know, but but yeah, it was very pretty. 162 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:16,360 Yes, and Gina was really concerned about the friendship 163 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,080 of Jen and Shannon with the cloud of Alexis looming over 164 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,200 them. And it's just this whole I laugh 165 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:27,400 because I just know Alexis doesn't have so much to say 166 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,920 about it. That's the focus I listened to 167 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,040 for a bit. Whenever I'm like by myself. 168 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:35,200 And it's just her and Carlos. Just. 169 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:38,680 Alexis has a podcast. No, she she guessed she recaps 170 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:41,080 OC with Carlos King. I didn't know. 171 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 That and like she's having a field day lately 'cause they 172 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,600 keep talking about her, okay? And she's just so offended by 173 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,040 Jen not claiming. Her Why is this the first time 174 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:52,840 I'm hearing about you listening to the Carlos King recaps with 175 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,560 Alexis? I don't listen to the entire 176 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:55,840 thing. I'll just usually like maybe see 177 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,520 a clip and then maybe I'll, maybe I might listen to it. 178 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,440 I'll see, I'll see a clip on Instagram, which maybe, maybe 179 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Alexis is a lot. Yeah, as I say, this explains 180 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,720 why you could tolerate that two TS episode way more than I. 181 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,560 Like, I still am good. I'm in a good. 182 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:13,640 I don't know about Jen, but I'm in a good place with Alexis and 183 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,280 I enjoy her to a certain extent, but she also gets really hyped 184 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:18,680 up. She's very frantic. 185 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,000 Yes, yes. It's like a frenzy to get to get 186 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:25,560 the thoughts out. And I'm like, girl, yeah, dial 187 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,360 it down, dial it down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 188 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:29,880 Kind of like what Emily was asking of Gina. 189 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,440 Just dial it down. Quit. 190 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:32,760 Well, at least when Gina had an excuse. 191 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,919 Those drugging dude. Yeah, Alexis, that's just 192 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:36,240 normal. That's just Tuesday. 193 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,240 Yeah, that's true. But this whole idea of like you 194 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:42,520 can't be friends with Alexis or like you're hurting me if you're 195 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:46,480 friends with Alexis and Jin got so like hyped up. 196 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,640 Like what do you mean Shannon? Like she's been nothing but good 197 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:52,160 to me. That's like, why are you 198 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,720 throwing down for just because you're confronted it? 199 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Seemed like because. That flashback at Tamara's party 200 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:59,960 when she said, you know what, Shannon, I wouldn't go because, 201 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:01,600 you know, that could do something to us. 202 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:04,200 Like she was very resigned in that moment. 203 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,440 But then the second Gina challenges her and says, what's 204 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,120 this deal for you and Alexis? She's like, what do you mean? 205 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:14,240 How dare you search her name. I mean, Gina, Gina did kind of 206 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,960 set things up in a very messy way to not only say that like 207 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:23,000 she's is friends with Alexis that Jenna is, but also that all 208 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,520 the nice things that Shannon just did for her, Jen thought 209 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,480 were ridiculous. Yes. 210 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:30,440 Which was really harsh. That was really harsh because 211 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:32,680 that's hurting Shannon more than Jen. 212 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:35,040 I know. And then like, I like, I know 213 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,200 they showed us those scenes of like Jen and Gina kind of being 214 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,640 like acting confused. Like I don't even know why she's 215 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,760 throwing me this party because I don't even have a wedding date 216 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,400 yet. Exactly. 217 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,320 But it's still, I don't know. It seems very clear to me, well, 218 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,560 that Shannon just wanted to do something nice, whether it made 219 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:53,080 her feel better or it actually made Jen feel good. 220 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,320 Either way, it was a nice. I feel like she was like 221 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,960 celebrating this new blossoming friendship, this closeness with 222 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,440 Jen and that, you know, came out as well. 223 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,720 You don't may not have a date, but let's just throw a party for 224 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,240 your days because I I really like you more now than I did 225 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,800 last season. But I think for sure the whole 226 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,120 housewives of it all makes it difficult because they're like, 227 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,840 well, this seems phony. So is she really doing this to 228 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,480 be my friend or is she just doing it for her for some other 229 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,400 reason? I can see how, Oh yeah, to make 230 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,960 camera, you know, pissy or whatever. 231 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:28,680 So I can see how there's some, you know, second guessing about 232 00:10:28,680 --> 00:10:31,160 the reasons behind it, But at the same time, I feel like at 233 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,160 the end of the day, like they it seemed like a fine event. 234 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,640 And if they had fun at the time and they didn't think twice 235 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,720 about it after the fact, then why are they thinking twice 236 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:40,440 about it now? And. 237 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,840 Like it wasn't like full on shower. 238 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,120 Like they weren't, there weren't gifts, right? 239 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,240 Right. There weren't games. 240 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,600 There's Just Like It was a nice luncheon to celebrate your 241 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,280 ongoing engagements. Well, there is all that advice 242 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,320 that she got, all that sound advice. 243 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,640 Right, so sound, Yes, so sound like sounding. 244 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:03,280 No, that's not good advice. I don't know why. 245 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,480 I was wondering why you were going to even. 246 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:06,840 I knew you were going to do something like that. 247 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:08,800 I was like, no, why? I don't get where that's going. 248 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,880 No, I don't know. That's what Ryan deserves. 249 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:16,560 I. Don't know? 250 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:19,800 Goodness. I kid, I kid. 251 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,800 But yeah, it was a kind of like a pile on of Shannon. 252 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,000 And, you know, she was just like, wait, what? 253 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,760 I thought we were cool. And not only are you like, still 254 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,160 friends with Alexis, but you also think my party was crap. 255 00:11:31,560 --> 00:11:35,840 And I think if Jenna just explained it as I it felt 256 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,640 awkward to me being celebrated because that's not what I do 257 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,040 normally. It's my second wedding and, you 258 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:44,960 know, I'm just, you know, we're still trying to figure out even 259 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,640 a date to get married and it just seemed out of nowhere. 260 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,960 But I appreciate the gesture, but it wasn't something that I 261 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,280 would have thought of to do for myself. 262 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,480 I mean, it seems clear to me that if ever I were to be, if I 263 00:11:57,480 --> 00:12:01,520 were ever reborn a housewife of any county, I would need to make 264 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:05,160 sure that I beat people to the punch. 265 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,520 They're like, if I ever say anything, even just in a train 266 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,640 of thought, that I make sure that I just repeat it to 267 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:13,760 whomever it was about. Totally, totally. 268 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,840 I would. I mean, I have a decent memory, 269 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,360 you know, fairly good. And I would just be like, OK, I 270 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,640 said that to Emily. Now I have to make sure I say it 271 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,360 to Shannon. Right. 272 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,480 Exactly. Yeah, on camera, right. 273 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:30,360 Or at least like if I feel like maybe I said something shady 274 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,040 behind someone's back, I need to be like, kind of like what Emily 275 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:36,920 did with Tamara of just like, hey, just so you know, I said 276 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,160 that I didn't cure the most trustworthy person. 277 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:39,880 That's right. Thanks. 278 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:41,480 Though she was getting out of it, yes. 279 00:12:41,680 --> 00:12:44,320 You know, so because I think that's where it's bad because 280 00:12:44,560 --> 00:12:48,400 because then Gina took something that was, I think, genuinely 281 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,440 very innocent of just saying, yeah, like, I'm a little 282 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,160 confused. Like, you know, she didn't, I 283 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:54,720 didn't ask for this, but she threw it for me. 284 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,440 It's nice, I guess. But why, you know, and turned 285 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,720 into this whole like Shannon's doing something fake, you know, 286 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,360 and I. And also that Jen thought it was 287 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,800 crap and it was like that wasn't the that was. 288 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:08,040 So that's where I agree that Jen was like, I never said it was 289 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,560 ridiculous. Yeah. 290 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,480 And she, you know, she didn't. She rolled her eyes that maybe 291 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:14,400 it was a little bit over the top, but like. 292 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,120 So what? Who cared, right? 293 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:17,640 It wasn't. Yeah, So what? 294 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:18,520 So what? Who cares? 295 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,840 Yeah, she wasn't shitting on it, exactly. 296 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,160 So I can I can see that. Yeah, yeah. 297 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:24,560 And then, like preaching to the segue. 298 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,680 I had a really tough year. Where was my party? 299 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:31,120 Basically, it was like, ask your best friend Emily. 300 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,000 What? Where was that? 301 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,520 Where that was was was that Beverly Hills? 302 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,800 Someone was just. Oh, Erica was like, where's my 303 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,640 pizza party? Yeah, and. 304 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,080 Then they threw her. They threw her party. 305 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:41,800 That was cute. I like that they. 306 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:45,560 Took her to Chuck E Cheese. Yeah, it was nice. 307 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,520 Yeah, that's kind of what yeah Gina was doing. 308 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:52,440 Like, I survived so much and, you know, Travis and I are back 309 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:56,120 together and their kids are back together and where's my party, 310 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:57,480 essentially? Well, you need to make it more 311 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,520 of your storyline. I mean, make it more. 312 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,960 That's The thing is, I think with Gina and even with Emily to 313 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,080 a point, I think when they do have storylines, they just seem 314 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,040 so casual about them, even when they're like about serious 315 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,360 things, like just Gina comes off as though everything, you know, 316 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,760 everything be fine. You know, like, you know, Travis 317 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:19,160 and I moved. We don't live together anymore. 318 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,880 He moved out like that one season. 319 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:22,640 But she was still like, it's a bummer, but. 320 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:27,040 What she's trying sometimes, but it wasn't like they're not super 321 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,400 dramatic people, right in that way. 322 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,400 So I think that's what kind of goes against them in that 323 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,800 they're not like they don't get the attention that the high 324 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,360 maintenance oh. Like Shannon and Tam, right, 325 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,360 Right. They don't scream enough, so 326 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,920 they don't get the the main, the the maintenance totally. 327 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,880 So I don't get more coffee. Drink up, buttercup. 328 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:49,080 I just wanted to say that I don't know Tulip. 329 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,720 Yeah, my peas stay out of that. Onto the hot tub, Yes, which was 330 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,240 sorry. Are you dying? 331 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,680 Can you please not? No, absolutely I don't. 332 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,080 Know got a little froggy in your throat, Got to get that out of 333 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,400 there. Little Kermit. 334 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,320 All right. So they get to the hot tub on 335 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:11,200 the boat. I'm sorry, I'm thinking now of 336 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,640 the Kermit remark. I was like, I know there's a 337 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,080 really, really crude Miss Piggy joke about, yes, having a little 338 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,240 frog in her throat or something, but I I can't. 339 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:19,920 I'll figure out that punch line later. 340 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:21,880 University said it, yeah. Yeah, I think so. 341 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,200 Anyway, they get they get back to the canal and they end up 342 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,520 getting in their hot tubs, which to me looked like those little 343 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:31,760 bumper boats at the fair. And I was like, I don't know 344 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,720 that I want to be driving around in one of those in a canal. 345 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:40,520 In a canal when like literally Shannon was just like, yeah. 11 346 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,960 foot. Up here and just like I'm going 347 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,480 to the a man in the boat and it's like, but you're going to 348 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,360 fall out of the boat. I you're not the most, you know, 349 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,560 flexible person who and you're very danger prone. 350 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,200 Drink more water, go more pot. You just cough this. 351 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:55,160 We'll edit this out. Yes. 352 00:15:55,360 --> 00:16:00,080 So yeah, I wouldn't trust myself in a bumper boat on the canal. 353 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,080 Nor would I do with a boom operator and a cameraman. 354 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,120 And then that was confusing me because there was definitely a 355 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,000 full boat with five people on each thing. 356 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,800 And then they would show shots without the cameraman in it. 357 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:14,080 And in my head, I was like, how do they disappear? 358 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,720 Like, it even took me to way longer than it should have been. 359 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,480 Like, oh, they went back and filmed some shots of them 360 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,600 floating down the river without the camera people. 361 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:26,160 There are like 3 or 4 boats it seemed like, yeah. 3 or 4 boats. 362 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:29,920 Like the two that they were in and like there was one next to 363 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:30,880 them. Try like capture. 364 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:33,400 Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, capture some of the drama 365 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:34,280 too, Yeah. Yeah. 366 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,000 And with it being that hot out as because they were all saying 367 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,640 it was so hot, I'm having trouble comprehending that 368 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:41,760 because the one time I was in Amsterdam, it was like winter. 369 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,440 So I'm like, I can't imagine being there when it's hot, but I 370 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,600 guess it gets hot. That's what you deal with. 371 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:48,760 The tulips are. Yeah, I suppose that's what 372 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:54,120 makes the the tulips bloom. So sorry, I just wanted to make 373 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,640 a voice. There's not the yeah. 374 00:16:56,680 --> 00:17:00,680 Stop. So I did think, Oh no, I don't 375 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,920 want to watch this when Emily was like, I'm going to give it 376 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,599 one more try. And I I have to say, I think 377 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:09,520 that went better than I was expecting. 378 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:14,240 Yes, you and I were both the entire time up to the very end. 379 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,760 We're just like Tamra, just stop talking. 380 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,599 Don't say anything. Just let her say what she needs 381 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:23,079 to say and then you know you can get out of the boat. 382 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:25,920 Yeah, even if it's a load of BS, which I feel like it kind of 383 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,200 was. And which wire in the boat or at 384 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:29,880 the end? Both of it, yes. 385 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,080 All of it, Yes. Anything out of her mouth. 386 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,040 Yes, yeah, a slight discussion too. 387 00:17:34,120 --> 00:17:37,240 It's like, Oh yeah, yes. Yeah, yeah, I think that was so 388 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:39,880 when you when? Well, what exactly was said on 389 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:41,040 the boat? Do you remember what? 390 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,800 So basically she was saying, you know, I'm sorry if basically 391 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:47,520 there's a I'm sorry that I hurt you. 392 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,360 I'm sorry that I like regressed. I started they said, you know, 393 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:52,880 so the things about you and the musician. 394 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,680 I think it was like a blanket like I'm sorry for like going 395 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,320 back from our, you know, our beach truth. 396 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,600 Yes, exactly, exactly. Got it. 397 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,600 I enjoyed and I was like, again, I almost thought it was going to 398 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:09,760 fall apart when Tamara was like, I don't talk about you, you're 399 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,200 not relevant. Exactly. 400 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:12,640 I thought I was like, OK, well, we're done. 401 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,160 It's. Just like the bad phrasing, Like 402 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:18,040 really bad phrasing. But because what she was trying 403 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:22,240 to say, of course, was I. I haven't been, I haven't been 404 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:25,560 spending these last 18 years talking about our feud. 405 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,960 It only comes up when you're like, you bring it up like I'm 406 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,640 not looking for ways to actively, you know, hurt you, 407 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,760 right? It's just that you bringing it 408 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,920 to my doorstep and then I have to like say something, whether 409 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,840 it be on camera or on the pod or whatever. 410 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:43,680 But she's not intentionally trying to ruin Gretchen's life. 411 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,480 She's just talk tired of the whole conversation, right? 412 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:50,160 Like I think Gretchen left the show and Tamara was done with 413 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,600 her right, But Gretch, but Gretchen keep kept talking about 414 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,600 it before she got back to the show. 415 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,200 And then when she gets back to the show, it's all she can talk 416 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,040 about, right? So therefore, when you see that 417 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,600 conversation with Gretchen Slade and he's like, you know, there's 418 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,840 hurt on both sides and and if she's willing to let it go, you 419 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,360 know, you should. I'm like, this is such bullshit. 420 00:19:10,360 --> 00:19:12,880 You were taking a different track because you know what's 421 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:14,320 work we were doing isn't working. 422 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,760 Well, do you know, I just realized what he was saying if I 423 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,640 read between those lines. Yeah, he was saying if she's 424 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,960 willing to let it go and not remember or harp on the fact 425 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:27,080 that we accused her of drugging, then maybe we should just let 426 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,360 this go. Yes, maybe we should just 427 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:33,840 swallow all of our plans and just let this one go off and. 428 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,960 If she's not going to either, like, you know, complain to 429 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:41,840 Bravo, actively sue us, yeah, we should let this die down and say 430 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,400 it was a slip of the tongue, right? 431 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:45,960 She never said it. I I don't. 432 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,520 Or just call Katie a liar. That's what they're, Yeah. 433 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,480 I'm sure it was what I don't understand. 434 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,400 And and if we're jumping ahead, what did anything else happen in 435 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:56,800 the other boat? Nothing really happened to the 436 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,480 other. Just Shannon being drunk and 437 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,160 like, Shannon and Jen, like kind of making peace. 438 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:03,680 And you know, I'm sorry if you know, that hurt you kind of 439 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,640 thing, OK. Because what I don't understand 440 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,400 is, and I think that's what I don't know that any of the women 441 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:13,280 did, what happened between Gretchen leaving and being like, 442 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:16,560 OK and then going into the her room and like, what made her cry 443 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,200 and crying like. I think and I don't know if it 444 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,360 was January or not but she did seem like really she was very 445 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:27,520 quiet most of the day except when she was making content. 446 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,920 Side note, does she really make that much off of content? 447 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,720 Is like she an influencer? I don't follow her so I don't 448 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:36,000 know. I could check to see how they 449 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,520 follow her. She has but is that like she 450 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,880 says she's like 6 businesses? I mean, yeah, she must I. 451 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,880 Guess anyone could do it that. Just do a lot. 452 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:46,280 I mean, it's just sometimes it's just quantity, quantity, 453 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:48,480 quantity and like always going and just throwing. 454 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:49,280 A niche. Yeah. 455 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,160 And seeing what sticks and maybe she's doing different content 456 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,880 that can be reused for her different businesses and, you 457 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,240 know. 20% off yeah. Gretchen, 20. 458 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,280 I wish we'd hear more of that kind of locker room talk. 459 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,080 So to Yeah, Dallas wives likes fun. 460 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:06,120 And shame. Like, yeah, Gretchen's doing 461 00:21:06,120 --> 00:21:07,160 content again. Yeah. 462 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:09,800 And just to hear them being like, cuz it's a bit of a fourth 463 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,040 wall break, but I don't think really where they're just like 464 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,840 20% off Gretchen. And especially if that's like, 465 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,360 if she's doing it enough where the women are kind of making 466 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:22,200 jokes or kind of slightly trolling her behind the scenes, 467 00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:25,160 like it's happening enough where it's it's got to be part of her, 468 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,720 you know, everyday thing like, oh, great, here comes the 469 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,320 Gretchen. We're gonna have to pause and 470 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,080 let her do a, you know, an ad placement. 471 00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:34,320 Well, if you're like, I'm sorry, if you're an influencer, then 472 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,080 you're constantly making content. 473 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:39,400 So if you're a content creator, that's how you make money. 474 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:44,760 So Slate ain't bringing in a. So don't say that you're going 475 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,280 to start an 18 year old feud with with Gretchen. 476 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:48,200 It'll go on. Forever. 477 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:51,880 But yeah, I know. So yeah, she's very quiet. 478 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,480 Like before the boat and the tulips and the boat. 479 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:59,040 And I think she was just so like resigned to be like, OK, 480 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,160 whenever or she was acting. Either it's like, I'm very 481 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,560 resigned to like, I'm sorry, I don't want to fight anymore. 482 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,120 This is so tiresome. Or she was just taking a 483 00:22:08,120 --> 00:22:10,840 different, she's moving different because what was she 484 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,920 was doing wasn't working with Tamara. 485 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:18,520 So I don't know, like the tears, she did seem really downtrodden 486 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,640 by the time she got to dinner and like when she was crying 487 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,720 with Jen. But it's that's the thing. 488 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,160 It's like when you have somebody who has constantly lied. 489 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,800 It's hard to see, are you actually telling the truth here, 490 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,360 right? Is this real emotion? 491 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:32,960 Are you doing it for the cameras? 492 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,200 I don't know. Part of it reads to me that 493 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,120 perhaps, and I'm trying to think the best out of people as we 494 00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,360 talked in the car, I don't want to like talk about what I don't 495 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320 like about people. I think sometimes we can get a 496 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,360 little too negative. But I just don't want to give 497 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:48,480 the benefit of the doubt to Gretchen necessarily. 498 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:53,160 But if I'm going to start doing that, I feel as though she may 499 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,160 not believe anything that she was telling Tamra. 500 00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:02,120 I think she really feels that Tamara is not a good person, 501 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:06,840 that like Tamara has been out to get her and slayed every day of 502 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,920 her life since she left the show, and that Tamara has caused 503 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,280 irreparable harm to the two of them. 504 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:17,480 And so I think Gretchen agreeing to let it go is just really 505 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,160 rubbing her the wrong, wrong way. 506 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,640 It's like her instincts are saying don't do that, and yet 507 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,200 she's trying to do it. And I think that's what's going 508 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,520 on. Is that her conscience? 509 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,360 Oh, she's fighting with like, this is what? 510 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,840 This is all I know or all I've ever felt about Tamara. 511 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,800 And but I should feel differently because I want to 512 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,040 move on and I want to place on the show and this is all about 513 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,960 conflict resolution. But it's like she's hurt me so 514 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,640 much I can't let it go. I think it's the way it is. 515 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:49,960 Like she feels so hurt and is so in her mind, traumatized by the 516 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,400 experience she's had with Tamara. 517 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,440 She cannot. It's in her core now. 518 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,400 Yeah, she can't let it go. And I think being on the show 519 00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,640 and having to encounter Tamara and having this really, like, 520 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,240 brought up because I don't think honestly, like she and Slater 521 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,720 talking about this every day. Of course she got to the show. 522 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,760 I hope not. Yeah, before she came back to 523 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,240 the show. But I think it's like, it's 524 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,320 really like it's in her face. It's like can. 525 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,480 You imagine? Honey, can you hand me that ugly 526 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,480 bow? Oh, also, Tamara's a bitch. 527 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,440 Oh, thanks. All right, now. 528 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,440 Now a giant headband. OK, Do I look good? 529 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:25,320 Tamara's dumb. Higher hair, higher hair. 530 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,560 All right, More pink. Yeah. 531 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,280 Tamara's the devil. Let's pray for her. 532 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:30,880 I'll tell. You. 533 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,360 I know I really wanted to toss out the C word on that one just 534 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:34,960 for effect. But I thought you were about to 535 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,280 do it. I was like, Oh no, not next 536 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:38,800 Tuesday. No, not next Tuesday. 537 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,000 No, but no, I mean. It's like she. 538 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,800 Lived with it for so long that like she can't let go of it. 539 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,600 I mean it's like it's like when you just get so comfortable 540 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,600 hating somebody. There's no other way around it. 541 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,600 It's like it's just part of your everyday of like the fact that 542 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,320 my truth in my head is that person is bad. 543 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,600 And then it turn around and like find yourself saying the 544 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,680 opposite, like maybe he's not all bad and maybe I could get be 545 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,960 friends with her. It just it's got to really 546 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:07,520 screw. Well, we what she even said, you 547 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,840 know, like if the preacher said, like, do you have hopes for 548 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,880 like, you know, of this going well, Tamra moving forward and 549 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,760 she's like, no, if she didn't like change when she accepted 550 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,040 Jesus Christ into her heart, like how's she ever going to 551 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,320 change? And I'm like, why are you even 552 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,560 going there? You know, I just, it just, she 553 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,640 just can't help her. Let's see what that it all comes 554 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,240 down to though. I think the fact that Gretchen 555 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,880 won't even admit that there's even a possibility that Slade 556 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,600 has been a neglectful father in any way sense of the word. 557 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,920 Like in Gretchen's mind, that like the things Tamara said 558 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,760 about Slade are just patently false, right? 559 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,120 And they can't. Can't even. 560 00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:48,600 She hasn't even let on or acknowledge that there may be a 561 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,000 world where Slade should have done or could have done more for 562 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,240 his children. Although if she truly, truly 563 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,080 believed that, then she would be married to Slade. 564 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,200 Well, there's probably medic or financial reasons she's not 565 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,520 married. But I'm saying it's like you're 566 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,720 like, you know who he is. Yeah. 567 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:04,960 You know that there is this debt. 568 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,200 It's not like make believe, right, Because otherwise you 569 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,880 would be, you know, biblically, man. 570 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,680 Biblically. Oh, we'll get. 571 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,480 Oh, yeah, we'll get there. Yeah. 572 00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,040 So I mean, yeah, you're right. Absolutely. 573 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,640 It's just. I just, I just, you know, having 574 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,600 said all that, I just when she finally joined them at the 575 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,960 table, I wish that Tamara had just been like, again, OK, sure, 576 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:36,080 OK, you know, let's try again. But she was just so like, no, 577 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,920 like so adamant of like, I can't move forward. 578 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,040 And it's like, you're finally on a bit of a high, Tamara, and she 579 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,120 is down low. Like you can't keep beating her. 580 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:50,920 Then you seem like the asshole for beating this woman down when 581 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,760 she's like physically drained. I mean, I thought. 582 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,840 Whether it's an act or not, like just you kind of gotta be like, 583 00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,240 okay, what out Wes, what's going on the table? 584 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,400 I'm surprised Tamara kept it together as much as she did. 585 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,360 Like I thought she was gonna fly off the handle again and quit 586 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,160 five more times. I honestly did. 587 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:09,840 I think she's over the quitting. I believe that. 588 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:15,160 But so I'm happy that she didn't just unload on Gretchen and like 589 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:17,840 start a whole new thing. But I think she was warranted in 590 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,720 saying what she said about saying how come you're like, my 591 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,920 problem is you said we were past it and then you went ahead and 592 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,960 did all this stuff. And then if you were past it and 593 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,920 you did all this stuff, even if you were over it, then what were 594 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,800 you trying to confront me about at the cowboy party, right? 595 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,520 Exactly what was the point of that? 596 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,320 So it's like. Clearly you weren't letting it 597 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,760 go because you had an opportunity to let it go and 598 00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:44,600 then you chose to keep going. Or then in one breath at that 599 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:49,080 self-defense lunch when you said, you know, I'm sorry for 600 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,400 bringing up the whole thing with the musician, but then you, you 601 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,760 know, then you flip. You're like, I have so many 602 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,880 things I can say about you, right? 603 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,080 Like they say like don't, don't you, you know, make me say those 604 00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:01,160 things that I can say that I'm not going to say right now. 605 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,040 Typical housewife. It's just so like back and forth 606 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,280 with Gretchen and and I think that's why she's not a good, a 607 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:12,080 good housewife or a good friend of, you know, yes, So yeah. 608 00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,200 I'm sure it's a little more complicated than that. 609 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:19,760 I'm sure we're also seeing a very tailored version of her, 610 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,720 either by the editors or Gretchen or both. 611 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,680 Yeah, but she gave them only so much to work with and she came 612 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:25,840 back. Yeah, true. 613 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,840 We've we talked about true out of an item. 614 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,440 So very true. And then apparently the big 615 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,400 bump. So this is what I. 616 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,920 Well, there's more before the big bomb. 617 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,200 Is there more before the big bomb? 618 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,240 Well, the next weeks. Truly the big bombs. 619 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,640 For sure. I mean, they they went to the 620 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,120 mall. Oh yeah. 621 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,600 To the food court, Shannon and and and Jen did some 622 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,680 synchronized dancing. Which was weird. 623 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,680 I I feel so embarrassed sometimes when people are loud 624 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,480 in Europe and I'm just like, oh, how American can you be? 625 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,000 So not the European way. Yeah, I know. 626 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,240 It's like, then people are just staring. 627 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,240 You nearly knocked that girl's plate out of her hand. 628 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,080 And Shannon, it was crazy. Oh, my God. 629 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,760 I was trying to get by trying to eat. 630 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,840 Trying to matter, Owen Tamara nicely told Jen. 631 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,680 There's a story about you owing money. 632 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,240 Send it to her face. Like, I just want you to know, 633 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:16,320 here's a story about a lovely lady who was on her yoga studio. 634 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,840 Well, and I thought that was interesting too, because again, 635 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,120 this is just shows how delivery matters, because she could have 636 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,400 just been like, well, I don't know, I saw somebody that said 637 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,840 you or da da da da, but she said, Hey, you know, just so you 638 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,600 know, as part of I heart, we get all these notifications and 639 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,680 things that we're going to talk about on the show, And this is 640 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,000 one of the things that I got sent like was it what's going 641 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:35,960 on? So she didn't bring it to Jen of 642 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,280 like, you're still being horrible. 643 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,800 You don't pay your bills. What she could have used? 644 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,720 Or she didn't drop it at dinner, like, so I heard this thing, you 645 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:43,920 know, it was like. Right. 646 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,120 So she saw it. She turned to Jen. 647 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,360 This is what I saw. Is this true? 648 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,040 Jenna could explain herself. She's said this before about the 649 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:54,720 whole issue with the yoga studio and whatever. 650 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,400 Which is it still running the yoga studio? 651 00:29:57,400 --> 00:29:58,280 I don't. Know. 652 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,200 I don't know. I don't know either. 653 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,160 I don't even know remember the name of it. 654 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:07,880 It's cut Yoga. Not got yoga? 655 00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:12,280 So. But I think that yeah, now we. 656 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,080 Can get Yeah, yeah. So the whole bombshell is. 657 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,520 So this one I feel bad about is that clearly it's one of these 658 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,680 things that's going to fall in the space between. 659 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:29,720 So Tamra has agreed already to like, put it behind her, but 660 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,240 she's already opened the can of worms by showing Gina that. 661 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,440 Because she she showed Gina that way before the trip, right? 662 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,920 And then Gina shared it with Emily on the trip before we got 663 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,920 to the food court dinner of we're OK. 664 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:49,400 Right now, Now that I will say, feels as though that's planned 665 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,280 like that. Gino was like, oh, I'm going to 666 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,160 bring this up to Emily in Amsterdam because there's no way 667 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,800 like a week or two went by where she's like, I just can't stop 668 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,600 thinking about that post. She was really like, I'm so 669 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,800 concerned about it. And Emily's saying, you know, I 670 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,280 too feel a certain way about her now. 671 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,600 I can't stop thinking about that post. 672 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,960 And so the fact that like, Tamara showed that to Gina, and 673 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,320 then now Gina's showing it to Emily, I feel like the three of 674 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,960 them were just like, I know how we're going to take care of 675 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,000 Gretchen. This is how we're going to do 676 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,760 it. And then how, if it's what we 677 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:26,400 think it is, are any of them surprised? 678 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,360 How on earth? You know her social media 679 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,000 presence, You know. She's extremely conservative, 680 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,760 Yes, you know that. She they're. 681 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,080 Religious. Yes, you know that she's MAGA. 682 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,880 You know that she is all of those things and and probably 683 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,440 follows a bunch of people and not that they aren't themselves 684 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,880 some of them. That's perfect, too. 685 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,440 That's the other layer of it, yes, you know. 686 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:54,560 So it's like so I mean, unless the post, I mean, I don't know 687 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:56,400 the exact post that they're they're talking about. 688 00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,600 I've. Only heard about the post I've 689 00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,280 seen it like on Reddit they've talked about. 690 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,440 The post OK, so I mean unless you don't need to. 691 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,640 There's many. I don't know the exact one, but 692 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,720 there's been many things that they pointed out that she liked 693 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,560 or commented on that was very problematic, right? 694 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,000 Yes, I mean, did she like like a Martina Navratilova post? 695 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,520 I mean, is that what's going on They. 696 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,320 Did a collab. They did a clip probably, yeah. 697 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,600 So I mean that's confusing me as to why they would be shocked 698 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,960 that she might support what I'm assuming is an anti LGBTQ or 699 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,720 anti trans post. Because for Heather to get that 700 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,320 upset in the preview, it's clearly something about her 701 00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,680 children and their relation with the queer community. 702 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:37,680 Yeah. And for them to say, I don't 703 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,360 want to tell Heather, but I want to tell Heather, that's the 704 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,080 person who would most affect because she. 705 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:43,360 Yes. Yeah. 706 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,880 And so again, why that would be surprising for any for them to 707 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,480 think that Gretchen would be involved in social media that is 708 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:56,240 anti-gay or just less than pro gay, right, You know, is 709 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,440 surprising to me, especially when they themselves, I mean, 710 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,760 unless they're going to, unless if we had like an honest 711 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,600 conversation with all the Real Housewives of Orange County, if 712 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,080 the conservative ones were to be like, oh, no, I just vote 713 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,160 fiscally. Like I just voted for Trump for 714 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,240 the money. Like I, you know his So I don't 715 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,080 agree with his social policies like. 716 00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,480 And I just couldn't get behind Kamala. 717 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,920 Yeah. Yeah, which is probably their 718 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:17,840 other answer. Yeah. 719 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,040 Or they're like, you know, I wanted gas prices cheaper. 720 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,680 It's like. I wanted eggs are just too high. 721 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,200 It can't too high, Luke. Can't eat his eggs. 722 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:35,680 So what do you want me to do? OK, so anyway, so yeah, that's 723 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,760 where I'm just kind of like in my head I'm like, well, you know 724 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,880 that she's not going to be. She's liked a few anti-gay 725 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,160 posts, I'm sure of it, you know. So I'm curious to know what 726 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,440 exactly it is, how bad it is. We should, I'm going to do some 727 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,520 research after this, but I just don't know how that's shocking. 728 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:56,480 And I'm not looking forward to the fact that there's going to 729 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,920 be this whole thing about how Tamra caused all this. 730 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,400 Right, right. I feel like in the preview when, 731 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,560 when Jen's saying like something is amiss here, it's like she's 732 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,159 referring to like, but it's Tamara's not making this up. 733 00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:13,360 She's not fabricating this. She's, you know, not like this 734 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,719 isn't like AI, right, You know? But you know, Tamara could have 735 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,199 just been really calm and quiet about it, thinking like, yeah, 736 00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:22,520 I'll apologize now because I know what's coming next. 737 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:28,360 Oh, I'm sure. And I wonder if something about 738 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,480 something this came up during her meeting with Katie. 739 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,719 Oh, because I feel we're going to go back to that because it 740 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:42,000 was such a small snow and. Katie showed her the post. 741 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,520 Yes. Uh huh. 742 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,760 Because that would work timing wise. 743 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,000 I think when she saw. Yeah, I think you're right. 744 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,320 And they would explain why that's such a short meeting with 745 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,560 Katie. Because they're going to 746 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:56,360 flashback to it and. Then Katie's going to be the one 747 00:34:56,360 --> 00:35:00,120 who made this all happen, and then she'll be back next season. 748 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,080 Yes, because she's like, oh really, Gretchen? 749 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,440 How you like me now and then? Yeah, I think. 750 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:14,600 Feeling drugged now, OK. No, no, no, no. 751 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,080 I think, well, I'm of course see where it goes, but I'm also 752 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,560 surprised because they don't usually go there right on 753 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,080 housewives about anything because this is like political, 754 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:26,680 religious. It's just really. 755 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,840 But yeah, Oh yeah, it's true. It's really, it's something you 756 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,920 would see maybe on Beverly Hills, right? 757 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:36,040 But like OC, it's like kind of like this unsaid thing of that 758 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,480 how conservative they are, unless you're Vicky and you 759 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,240 bring it up on your podcast and you know. 760 00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:45,800 Yeah, I mean, unless it's just maybe it's something that's 761 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,040 really, really fucking awful, you know? 762 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,480 Yeah, could see, you know, and. And yeah, you're right, they 763 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,240 wouldn't normally bring that up and. 764 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,000 Because they just don't want to want to push away part of their 765 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:03,800 audience who, frankly, unfortunately leans that way, 766 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,960 leaves those things that Gretchen allegedly liked, you 767 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,840 know, or commented on. Well, it'll be interesting to 768 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,200 see how they do it without. Yeah, I mean, I, I'm afraid that 769 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,840 they're going to back off of it a little bit. 770 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,240 They're not going to give it like. 771 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,960 They're going to be very, I thought it's going to be very 772 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,120 focused on the LGBTQ of it all. And they are never going to say 773 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:27,920 MAGA. Oh no, no, yeah. 774 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,000 They're never going to get like deeped out into it. 775 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,080 Like this is who you are. This is who you like because you 776 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:36,320 can to others. I mean, it could also very well 777 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,840 have zero to do with, you know, conservative politics or, you 778 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,960 know, Republican. It could just really be about 779 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,400 the social aspect of. It social aspect of it and I 780 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,280 think it's just it's probably more religious. 781 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,000 Right. That's the question. 782 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,520 Yes, Biblical. Do you biblically believe this? 783 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,080 Yeah. So yeah, I mean, they could I'm 784 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,080 yeah, I'm sure that's how they get around it is that's more 785 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,800 about the social issue that it is about, you know, the how you 786 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,640 voted exactly, yes, but again. It's how. 787 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,320 You vote often in these days, we'll kind of be a litmus test 788 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,480 for how you feel about a lot of these other social issues. 789 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,000 Right. It's a very fine line. 790 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,360 It's very murky territory for housewives to get into, right? 791 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,880 But it is for somebody who just a few episodes ago, like 792 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,440 Heather, who, you know, was supporting the Trevor Project 793 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:29,760 and brought them on to the show and had a whole thing for them. 794 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:31,960 Like, this is what she strongly believes in because this is her 795 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,960 family. You know, it's not. 796 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,120 This is her children. Yeah, yeah. 797 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,560 So it's not like, oh, this is my friend who's gay or my 798 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:42,120 hairdresser. And it's like, this is my 799 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:45,480 children and you're Speaking of. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 800 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,240 Well, it's gonna be a great finale. 801 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:50,280 I know things like really got good in the sand. 802 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,760 Now we know why the trip ends in Amsterdam. 803 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,040 Because. Well, and also, Greg, Heather 804 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,160 hasn't done anything with her dad's ashes yet. 805 00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,640 So I feel, yeah, I feel like the next episodes will be very, very 806 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,280 emotional for Heather at the end of all this emotion. 807 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,640 This is going. To I bet they're spreading them 808 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,760 in the beginning of the episode and then they get to like, oh, 809 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,760 it's final dinner and then Gene is like, I can't hold on to it 810 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,320 anymore, Heather. I can't. 811 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,240 God. Oh, I feel bad. 812 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:19,240 Tamara's going to have a lot. Of fallout, though, for having 813 00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:22,320 brought well, I guess you're right, though, it's got to be it 814 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:28,880 has to be from Katie as well. Yes, so and that's going to it 815 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,120 was too short of a scene. I was like. 816 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,360 This is all we get. Like we haven't seen this woman 817 00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:33,840 in like weeks and now it's all we get. 818 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,080 There's gotta be a flashback to then bridge to the reunion and 819 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,920 it serves also up the. Ability to give Heather like an 820 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,000 inroad with Katie to get over it. 821 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,520 Like, oh, you know, thank you for, you know, it was hurtful 822 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,920 that to hear those things. But thank you for having my back 823 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,520 and, you know, letting me know that this person felt, you know, 824 00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,560 so disgustingly about my family or what are the pieces, right? 825 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,800 So it would give Heather an excuse to mend fences with 826 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:01,680 Katie. They are sitting next to each 827 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,000 other with Reunion. But that's just because that's 828 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,920 what it. But also it's interesting in 829 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,400 this episode, Heather said I don't think Gretchen's an evil. 830 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,040 She's an evil menace. And she's been nothing but nice. 831 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,800 And yeah, yeah, they're definitely. 832 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:17,920 Setting that up. Oh yeah. 833 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,320 Oh, oh, I. Can't wait to watch. 834 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,280 Me either, I just hope it goes. I, I hope I. 835 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,240 Hope our I hope our favourites are good in the exactly we just 836 00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:28,520 want. Tamara to come out clean. 837 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:30,360 Not just Tamara, but like, even like. 838 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,320 Heather, I mean it's our even Gina and like because I just 839 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,320 don't want that backlash of like, why would you bring this 840 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,480 up to me? Like, you know, like it's 841 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:41,120 hurtful to hear these things. Like I'd rather not know, but I 842 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:44,640 is no one else. Thought to bring it up to like 843 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,120 none of her friends like outside the show. 844 00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,520 Thought hey this Co worker of yours She's like unless the 845 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,840 people she knows outside the show are not looking for things. 846 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,800 Probably because unless you're on the. 847 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,160 Social's. Media, you're not really looking 848 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,680 for this, but it's also like how you know I have Co workers. 849 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,880 Who I'm sure are very conservative that I don't know. 850 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,720 And I just don't bring up their politics and I don't even think 851 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:08,160 about it. I'm just like, I'm here to do 852 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,000 this thing. And, you know, obviously we 853 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,480 don't have a creative, you know, presence like the Housewives do. 854 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,040 But you know, but also this is about like friendships. 855 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,840 And how you know? Yeah, I'm just saying, I guess 856 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,680 my. Other point as well was. 857 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,720 Also my. Friends don't give a shit about 858 00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:25,200 my coworkers. They're. 859 00:40:25,240 --> 00:40:26,960 They're just like, oh, that guy you work with? 860 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,480 You know, OK, cool. You know, so true. 861 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,080 What I my friends don't either. Yeah, unless I like I was 862 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,760 hanging out with like. Numerous, numerous. 863 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:37,920 The world. My coworkers. 864 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:41,240 Yeah, exactly, exactly. So well, I think we did a good 865 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:45,240 job talking about everything this time and we'll talk about 866 00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:46,400 it next time. Till next time.