Cool, awesome. Do you guys want to go first?
I mean, I guess so we could do the welcome to another episode
of Husbands Watching Housewives. I'm Scott and we have some
special guests with us today. We're also and.
We're their guests, Yeah, saw this.
Who's who's guest? We don't know.
I'm Travis. And I'm Emma.
And this is bestie approved. Yeah, it's all working out
that's like these, this is like our second collaboration ever.
So it's just, you know. Same.
A lot of learning, yeah. Like we've, we've been guests on
one other podcasts and like, I didn't even know that was a
collab. Like I think it was just us
being guests. I don't really I, I never got
the like the audio from that. No idea what happened with that.
I don't even know if it got published if I'm being honest,
but. I'm just talking.
And it's what we're best at. What's the last song that
everyone listened to? I don't know if I told you guys
about this, but like, this is something cute that Emma and I
do at the beginning of every episode.
What's the last song about the V listen to?
That requires me to know the names of the bands that I listen
to. I I'm pretty much at at the will
of Spotify, playing things randomly at me.
I'm like, oh, I like this song. OK, I love.
That what was. I.
Apparently I listened to Scarlett by Holly Humberstone
most recently. That's the what I'm into.
Jeff was probably listening to some disco fantasticness on.
The way to a podcast like On the Way Home.
So but before that, I think the last, gosh, what was the last
one? It was my like song, which is
like 500 or 600 songs. Just pick one, anyone.
Which ones your vibe right now? It's really like a mismatch or a
mash up of like I, I don't listen to a lot of current
stuff. So it's just like a lot of, you
know, maybe 70s or 80s or 90s or 2000s.
And so you're like an adult contemporary radio station.
Pretty much like there's like beautiful few people that I will
listen to, like encourage people, but it's really, you
know, far and few between. So it might have been some it
was an old song, but. What about you?
Guys, that was also old. It was Fade Into by Mazzy Star.
Oh, that's a good one. It's a good one.
It's on my list. Mine is fairly old, like 20-12
ish. Better than that.
The Dave Outie remix by or Yeah by Sub Radio.
Yeah, I lost on that one. Very gay, very gay.
Do you guys just like want to jump into the episode?
I feel like it was a pretty big episode.
Unless there's anything on anyone else's minds before we
jump in, 'cause I don't have given the current state of the
world, I don't feel like complaining about politics right
now like I. I yeah, no, same.
Same. Absolutely, yeah.
Getting into that episode is probably a better place to go.
Perfect. I was going to tell you
something. I just like read something
before I like hopped out of the car but.
What did you read? I mean Kimmel got a show
cancelled. Well, that Jimmy.
Did he get his show cancelled? Well, he got pulled
indefinitely. Definitely.
Yeah. It just happened.
Yeah, That's crazy. Everyone's favorite.
Yeah. Right, because I can tell you
the last time I watched Jimmy Kimmel.
I mean, that's true too. Same.
But I do enjoy him as a. Host.
I do too. And I enjoy free speech so.
But we can go like a whole down, like a whole sad Rd. about that.
So sorry. I had no idea.
That's crazy. It just happened.
I think I, I just saw it like I was off the stoplight, you know,
once I got off. Looking at your phone?
That's fine, that's cool. I got off the road, so I sent.
Tik Toks to Emma while I was driving before.
It's fun. Yeah, I have watched.
Him be in reverse and launch TikTok on his phone and it's
like godspeed I guess. Godspeed.
It's a real talent. Jesus, take the wheel.
Actually though, cool so. Guys.
So yeah, where? Where did the show start?
That's it. So every week, Scott says that
to me because I'm because. Well, I don't remember.
I don't remember shit. I really just don't remember a
thing at all. I'm like I know we just watched
that but like how the show started off and usually where we
end up by the end of the show 2 totally different places.
And so he'll say that and I'm like, oh, where did it start?
So that's kind of the cool thing that Salt Lake City has done the
last couple of years is they've like pretty well contained it
all inside of like a capsule episode.
They're not all over the place. It's not a ton of different
scenes. But we start and end on a
camping trip. Basically.
Angie K picks Mary up in a little RV for a little getaway.
And I guess they, like, they tricked all the other women into
getting on this RV excursion with them.
And I love that so much because I'm obsessed with the idea of an
RV trip. I've told him about this a
million times. Like I want so badly to like
drive across the country in an RV.
I've always wanted to do that too.
And I always thought like, oh, thanks a lot.
You know, MTV and road rules and all that stuff like this gave
me. I just always wanted to.
But of course, no challenges along the way.
I don't need those. I would do like one or two
challenges. Go ahead, Sir.
I would hate to be surprised by it though, like I need to know
being close quarters with nine other people before I launch
into it. There's no way I also feel like.
For that, yeah. Mary is allegedly Co hosting
this thing. I feel like she honestly just
said she would Co host so that Angie would tell her where the
fuck they were going. Oh, probably.
Well. That's accurate.
And then she didn't. And I, I love the way they
present like, but yeah, like I bought an RV three years ago
because my husband told me to. And now I just had the great
idea to like, take the women on this RV trip.
They had camping real plaster all over the front of this RV.
Like it was very clearly something done by production.
And it's fine. I I I can I can deal with the
illusion of some of it her. RV that they showed was not the
RV they were in either. No, it wasn't 100%, but so they
all show up. They or they, everyone shows up
at Beauty Lab and Laser, the holy place where Jen Shaw got
arrested. They're all waiting out front.
We find out that Angie, Whitney and Bronwyn aren't getting along
with baby gorgeous Lisa, which is, spoiler alert, why she's not
on the bus and. No, it's because she's working.
She has work to be done. She.
Is with Blake Lively OK? A Blake and Ben, But Blake and
Ben. Sure.
And to be fair, I did see pictures of them together on
Instagram. But like, OK, like whatever.
Whatever you need to tell yourself, baby.
Gorgeous. What else?
I couldn't tell. I couldn't tell from your notes,
like where Lisa Barlow like ranks and like your your
hierarchy of the Salt Lake housewives because you were you
had a lot of notes that were like, I love her.
I love her but also like I don't know if I can.
That's where I struggle so much. And Emma will tell you this, I,
I like the idea of Lisa Barlow. I imagine in real life she's
probably one of the most fun people to be around.
I think she's probably incredibly generous.
I think she's wonderful. I think she has a very, very
hard time not being the alpha dog in some cases.
And I that's, I think that's where you get a lot of the, that
her screaming at when you're lying, you're lying.
And like, I can't handle when someone needs to control a
narrative. And I think that's how she's
been presented on the show, for better or worse.
So I really, really want to like her.
I really want to like all the women.
I don't have a problem with anyone except for Brittany.
You, I'm sure you could tell from my notes that I cannot
stand Brittany. But everyone else I really,
really like. And I want to like Lisa.
Right. No, agreed.
I think I don't know. We're irritates lever living
snot out of us, but she's one of the ones that's supposed to you
know, you're I don't think you're supposed to worship
everything that she does. And I think that we're like, I'd
rather not, but she does a good job of doing what she needs to.
Do I don't know, I feel like you can look at a lot of people's
pages on Instagram, particularly Queens of Bravo.
You're supposed to worship Lisa and that she carries the show.
So I was glad she wasn't on the episode, but I knew they were
going to talk about her and I knew that everyone was going to
was going to say they can't go one episode without talking
about Lisa. Lisa's carrying the show even
not without being there. And I hate that narrative
because I think they all pull their weight and they all have
have something to add in its ensemble show.
And it's not just the Lisa show. Like there's no housewives or
there shouldn't be the housewives where it's just like
insert person's show. I agree, I think.
If anyone wasn't there, they would have talked about her.
It didn't matter who it was. Yes.
Yeah, I agree. And I think that's what I like
about this show is like, I think they are all equally matched in
this show. Like I don't think there's one
person that carries it. And there's like you, you can
make the argument about Mary in seasons what, 3 and 4 where she
was like not on the show and then she was a friend of like
I'll, I'll buy that with Mary. But like I also think she did
not want to be part of the the show and she had more going on
in her life cause we see what happened in season 5 with her
son. But like I I I think everyone
there really holds their own way.
Anyway, Brittany's back this year and I hate that, but part
of me does love that she saw this invitation and she took it
for face value and she showed up in a bikini under her coat and
she said I'm Britney Spears. Look at me like.
I loved that. Did she really?
Yeah. I loved her little fit.
Yeah, I kind of yeah. I enjoyed that.
That was the one thing I was like, OK, you're funny,
Brittany. The thing is about Brittany,
she's an actress, so I think she.
Is she is a Broadway girl? Yeah.
Yeah, she, I think a lot of this is like her acting and playing
the part of a housewife. And I wonder, I'm like, are you
really like this or are you just like giving a performance?
OK, so now that you're saying that out loud, like that
reframes my the entire way I think about her because like now
I'm just like, oh, she this is the whole like the the her
giving the toast and the her like.
I can't. Even say it last season about
Jared Osman. Like that, that, that whole song
and dance. Now that you're saying that, I'm
like, oh, maybe there is something to that.
You can see the acting. She's acting.
Because she's not that good at it.
I mean what? Bless her heart, bless her,
bless her little heart. They so they all get on the RVI
was so obsessed with all of it though.
Like I want to be on an RV so bad.
And they do a little flashback. Emma, have you, have you gotten
to the point in season 2 yet where Jen Shaw got arrested?
Yeah. OK, so they do the shot for shot
like reenactment of the, the SWAT team showing up and they're
like, and I, I want to know who all knew about this in advance?
Cuz like I could tell Heather was acting.
But the whole oh, the, they, they show up and like, and then
you realize they're strippers. Like I was fine with it, but
like up until the moment that I realized they were strippers, I
was so mad. I was like, I don't want this.
I don't like take this back. I don't want this on my
household. So yeah, but I.
Immediately knew they were strippers did.
You really? Yeah, the SWOT thing it gave
like FBI female body inspector. Vibe.
OK, so maybe I'm just like too naive, I don't know.
But like, one of those strippers is a little thick and I was
super into that. For like half a second I thought
like, wait a minute, is this an actual like, are the police out
there? Is there something like is the
is the RV in a no parking zone? I thought it'd be some crap like
that, but then I was like. I thought they were just like
showing up to like, oh, look, it's like we're we're doing a
funny little like bit like I, I thought that's what was
happening. But like the thick stripper,
really I was like, I'll take it. That's fine.
I do like Whitney though, I think she's so funny.
I liked Whitney a lot this episode.
And then that was like, that was a good set up.
Yeah, that was a good prank. It took me a minute with Whitney
on this episode cuz I was like, I think I had a bad taste in my
mouth from like the last couple of seasons on her healing
journey. Like I was just like, I don't
like, I don't, I don't need it. But like, I, I was really
surprised at how vulnerable she was able to be.
Like with everything that's gone on with the business.
And like I I was, I became a big fan of Whitney this this
episode. Well, she's on her.
She's on her filling journey. So her business failed.
She. Failed and.
On a filling journey. My favorite moment of the show
around that fire pit. We'll get to it later, but when
she says I'm not ready for a hug right now, that was my favorite
moment of the whole that. Was actually, I wrote that down
at some point. That was very good, she said.
I don't. Like she stopped talking.
She's like. It was the face she made for me.
I was like, yes, we're back. To be sobbing your eyes out and
be like get off of me. They get into Lisa not being on
the RV and and she says it's because she had a work thing.
But then we get a flashback to Lisa on FaceTime flat out saying
she doesn't want to spend the night with Bronwyn.
I how do you guys feel about Bronwyn?
Let me ask you this. I like Bronwyn a lot.
I think she bought a lot to the show last season.
I like anyone who can. I feel the other woman to a
certain extent. Maybe not Angie, maybe not
Whitney will just like back off when like Lisa comes at them.
And the fact that Bronwyn, I think it was when they were in
Palm Springs and she was just like, what was the line like?
You're doing your job like. You expect me to like ride your
Dick like it's my job. Like I was like, yes, yes, give
it to her. Like give me that head shake.
Like all that was was was good for me.
So the fact that Lisa's saying I don't want to be there because
Bronwyn's there, it's like really you've had bigger beefs
with like Heather and Whitney, like, why are you acting as if
Bronwyn is like the most is the worst thing ever?
So I thought that was just dumb like, and it's also it's well,
two things. One, it's your job.
I know you have a real job, but this is your job to go on this
cash trip. So I don't know what you're
thinking there. But then I also read, and this
may not be true, but you know, because it was on Reddit that
someone was saying that she was still in contract negotiations
when they started filming and so that's why she wasn't on this
episode. Did you see that?
Oh no, I didn't see that. I remember that.
I remember that being an issue when we heard they started
filming is that she wasn't yet finalized.
Interesting, was it? Wait, Bronwyn wasn't finalized?
No, she was trying to play hardball, I think.
Or maybe she successfully did. Yeah, interesting.
Because otherwise I feel like she would be like, I, I hate, I
may hate all these chicks, but I will at least show up because
it's my job. But if she's still trying to
negotiate to come back on the season, then you're not going to
appear and they're going to keep rolling with without you.
Well, that's the interesting thing.
And like Emma and I have talked about this.
We talked about this with Secret Lives of Mormon Wives, with
Taylor not going on with the cast trips.
We're like, that's a different beast from the housewives
because the housewives will just like cut you out.
Like they'll be like, OK, well you didn't want it that bad, so
friend up I guess. No call, no showed girlfriend.
Yeah, I think that's why, like, Heather was so pissed at Bronwyn
for not inviting her on that Palm Springs trip last year,
because she was like, I would come, but if you're not inviting
me, I can't come. Therefore I'm not in the
episode, therefore I'm not going to be paid for this episode.
And you're really screwing me. That's true.
Yeah. But so they get into that a
little bit and we get more into that a little bit later.
Because I think, I wonder if part of it was also like, she
just like didn't like didn't want to deal with the lawsuit
stuff because like, I, I don't think she wanted the same
treatment for better or worse, that Jin Shaw got it.
Cuz I'm, I mean, the way she, granted, it's a very, very
different situation, but the, the way that they just hung Jin
Shaw out to dry with the lawsuit stuff, I don't think Lisa wanted
to put herself in that situation where the woman could say
anything similar to that about her.
But I I think aside from Jen Shaw, Lisa always does this
thing we were just talking about where she's like so worried
about her image and like the PR of it all that she like, well,
things are pending. Maybe didn't want to have that
conversation. I'll buy that 100%, yeah.
That makes sense too. Yeah, yeah.
But we also get into a fight between Whitney and Brittany.
Yeah, Whitney and Brittany about fighting, about Whitney's
business. And I don't like Brittany
bringing this stuff up because I'm like, Brittany, you don't
have a business. I shut up.
I want to hear your mouth. I can't stand her.
And then we cut to Angie K drinking tequila straight from
the bottle. And I loved it so much.
But the fight de evolution because she started pouring
shots and then the girls start fighting and like then you see
her just. Devolved into like.
Streaming I kept trying to see like if there were if the bottle
kept going full, empty, full empty like during different cuts
just to kind of see like how consistently they were or were
not drinking, but I didn't really catch anything.
Yeah, this cast drinks like this cast.
It's, it's not like some of the women on Beverly Hills, and it's
not like I, it's not like some of the women in Potomac, like
this guy's drinks. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
I was surprised that, oh, sorry, I was.
Please go ahead.
I was surprised by Brittany's like, such, her strong defense
of Lisa. And they're like sisters now and
like, how dare you besmirch her name.
Whitney. I was like, what?
Where is this coming from? Brittany was trying to get a a
permanent spot as a as a housewife and not a friend of
that's what that was. I can definitively.
Talk. Yeah, that's where she would.
I don't think they're actually friends.
Let me tell you, I do not I I the, I think the only sisterly
thing that that Lisa Barlow has ever done to Brittany is looking
at Brittany and saying you do need Karastas, their matique
when they were when she was told she had high body count hair.
I do not think that they are that close outside of that.
Do you think any of them are? Action wise I.
I think Heather and Whitney are probably friends and I think
cousins. One, what'd you say?
Cousins that they are cousins. And I think that Angie and Mary
are very genuine friends. I don't think any of the rest of
them were that close. I think that they they all knew
each other peripherally. And I think that's what makes, I
think that's what starts to make for a really good cast on
Housewives is they know each other, but they are still
figuring each other out. I guess I don't.
Know, yeah, that makes sense. But the one that gets to their
campsite and I have a place like this, like a mile from my house,
like look, I was like this. I, I, I know this place.
I can smell this place. It's awful.
It's miserable. There's absolutely a school bus
outside of this place It. Is it was a rugged.
Yes. And then Mary just goes, I don't
like it and I love. I'm like, OK, Hostess.
Did you feel for any moment once they pulled up that like they
were just going to stop camping that at any moment they're like,
just kidding, we're going somewhere else.
I mean, forget the fact that you we saw the trailers and we knew
probably didn't happen, but did you think or hope for a moment
that maybe I. Maybe a cabin or something.
Honestly, I really didn't think they were going to campfire
dinner. Yes I do.
Are you weeping arrangements too?
Like how are they cramming them all in there?
Are they doing it like traders style where half of them are
going off to a hotel once the cameras stop?
Yeah, true. I don't believe they spent the
night there. I'll be real with you.
It was an hour away from home. I believe they probably either
like went to a Marriott that night or like went.
Like a DoubleTree? Yeah, yeah, I think a courtyard
suite. At least give them AJW come on.
One of these other tropes I don't love.
Brittany brought camcorders for the girls and why I think it was
Carol did this in New York when they all went to Turks and
Caicos. I don't need that.
Like you're surrounded by cameras.
Like it's OK, babe. Like, like we're watching you on
TV. It's OK, I.
Mean she was clearly trying to like take the narrative back
that like I'm the one she tried miserably like I'm the one who's
known as recording people and it's like why did you?
Bring Yeah, we know. Yeah, that's why we hate you.
Bring up your own dirt like that I was.
Like, yeah, it did. It did give us a good flashback
to Meredith going you, you need to go.
You're despicable. Like, because I will.
I love Meredith when she's activated and oh God it's good.
That angle was like you need to go.
You need to. Go.
I've had enough of you, beast. I love when they talked about
that later and Meredith goes we talked on the phone twice.
We went to dinner one time. You're not trying to think
about. How they were good friends.
So then we go back into Lisa not being on the trip, and then we
get a conventional from Heather, and then the women start to get
into some of the accusations and lawsuits, and they're 100% gonna
make Lisa Barlow the villain this season.
Yeah, absolutely. I didn't know anything about
these lawsuits actually. Like I don't follow her as
regularly as. I only do cuz I listen to the
Bravo docket about. All of them.
One time, so they really filled me in on it.
OK, I haven't heard that episode of the Bravo docket.
I do need to go back and listen to that cuz like I did right
down at some point, like this calls for a less research Mama
because I love nothing more than to like go Pete like a line by
line over a lawsuit. Like I, I'm applying to law
school. I'm so excited about that.
Like like this is like I'm obsessed with this stuff.
But I remember something about like they were suing the tequila
brand like one 'cause they have like two or three different
offshoots of Vita tequila and it's like one of them is like
Jack Henry spirits or something. I know they were in some kind of
litigation. I don't remember what for but
like. I think it all has to do with
like loans and things that John took out on behalf of the
company and vice versa. And it just, it's really
technical. If I recall, these are the same
ones. OK, Do you, do you think that
their entire life is like, and I, I hesitate to ask this like
in this way, but like, do you think that most of their life is
like on loans? Because like owning A owning a
liquor company does, unless it's like skinny girl, you are not
making that much money. Yeah, I'm pretty sure most
everyone on the show is on varying degrees of loans, but
that's, you know, how some people do it.
They're just, they learn to juggle all that back and forth
and. I think you're right.
I think they are living on loans because this isn't, you know,
José, José Cuervo. Well, I mean, it's you.
Know like yeah. To be fair, I mean, she does
have the marketing company. So like I, I'm not saying that
they're like destitute in their entire life as bankrolled by
credit cards. Like I, I don't want it to go
out that way, but like I, they, the way it is shown on the show,
they have money like, and so I'm like where I don't know, like I,
I hope, I hope it's not like the entire, the wheels falling off
of the entire operation. Well, from I don't see that
being the case, but. I think she's screaming about
her money all the time too, which is annoying.
Like it's a whole like wealth whispers, you know?
Situation. Money talks, Wealth whispers.
Yeah. Yeah, from what I tried.
Though no, sorry, sorry. Oh God.
No, I was just going to say it's the businesses that are being
sued. It's not her.
So like, OK, she probably has her Bravo money and whatever
money in her name. And she they might have been
bankrolling the businesses a little too tight.
You know, that might be all. Maybe.
Yeah, yeah, maybe. Her Wendy's money.
And she did have a a brand deal with Carousel Star Boutique,
too. Yes, and her hair is great.
I will. Let's if I had to say 3 nice
things about Lisa Barlow, it would be her hair.
Great. She's a great mom.
She's a great mom and. She's really pretty.
Yes. She's a hard fighter.
Scott, you put into the notes, can this please be Elisa Barlow?
I mean, and it I mean it's going to be, but I do worry that it's
somehow going to like flip it around later and at least has to
somehow become the victim of it all.
So I do want it to be just a full on takedown season.
I think though, because we're seeing this with OC you, it's
really a mistake to like for everyone to pile on one person
because the audience is going to just shift in that direction.
So if they were smart when this is playing out, they would
should be, you know, just like just here and there fighting.
Not like I don't need the entire cast to be against her, which
they won't like, you know? The entire cast isn't against
her because if you will remember, Heather defends Lisa a
little too hard. I know.
It reminded me of how she defended Jen Shaw within an inch
of her life. I agree and then the second
that, and this is I love Heather like I gun to my head.
Heather is one of my top five favorite housewives across all
of the cities. This is the one thing I don't
love about Heather is like I, I was listening to, I think it was
broad pros and they were talking about how Heather so desperately
wanted to be best friends with Lisa in the, in the first couple
of seasons And, and Lisa was so just mean to Heather and
Whitney, like a mean mean. And they, I, I think now she's
like got the chance and she's like, I'm not messing this up.
Like I'm going to be friends with Lisa and like, so I I don't
know. I think you're right.
I bet that doesn't make sense. I still don't understand why
they all need desperately to be friends with each other at all
like. Well, specifically Lisa Barlow,
we've had, we've talked. About this Before, like with
Jen, everyone needed to be friends with Jen Shaw.
Like, oh, I have to be her friend.
So what's so amazing about Lisa Barlow, you know?
My theory and like I'll buy this about Lisa too because like in
the first couple of reunions, Lisa does talk about and she
talks about it on Monica Garcia's reunion too, where
she's the reason that they brought the show to Utah.
Like she had friends in in production and casting and like
she's like come here and the the theory and Emma and I have
talked about this. The theory that I have about Jen
Shaw is that she was presented as the person this show is being
built around. And like if you if you know
she's she's in a lot of situations she had no business
being in. She's in a lot of scenes.
Like I mean, she's in basically all of the scenes in the first
season and the entire thing is built around her.
So I'll buy that like they like because you know, they do this
with every, every housewife city where like it's, it's not
housewives to begin with and then it becomes housewives.
I'll buy that. It was like a a thing about
businesswomen. And Jen Shaw was like the main
businesswoman. And they were like, Oh no, this
is housewives. Right, right.
So Karen Huger of Utah. Yeah, where it's, yeah.
Karen Huger was the grand Dom of what what it was supposed to be
like etiquette or something like that.
Yeah. So like I'll buy that that we're
in the same situation, but what else?
Oh, and then like Angie and I didn't like this Angie.
I let me just say I like Angie K as controversial as that, as
I'll like Angie K and. Controversial, I don't think.
Yeah, how was that? Some people she's fan, some.
People are so annoyed by her. Really.
I mean she is a pillar of the community, but other than that,
I mean what'd she do wrong? She's.
A very long face. You know, she's like 4 foot
nothing. We saw her in real life, and I
can, Yeah. Yeah.
She's in short, Yeah, Yeah. Yeah, but she did compare Lisa's
lawsuit stuff with the Gin Shaw situation, and I did not.
No, I should. She should not have gone there.
I don't understand like why even bring up Jin Shaw's like I was
like kind of like why are you even like bringing up Jin Shaw?
Like these are two separate incidences, 2 separate people
like incidences. That's not important.
Where'd you find out who actually punched her and gave
her the black eye? The story unravels.
But. Just like like someone said in
their confessional, they were like the state of Utah and the
United States of America are not concerned with Lisa Barlow.
Like don't even start. Meredith, the attorney did say
that. But what I, what I will say, the
fact that they keep bringing up Jen and the fact that they're
leaving this all and they're 100% bringing her back when
she's released from prison, 100%.
And I pray to, I pray to God they do.
I would disagree with that only because I don't think anyone's
willing to film with her. I don't think the network
necessarily likes her, and I think you can and can't get past
elder fraud. Yes, Yeah.
Like with Teresa, like, she's screwed herself.
But like, Jin Shaw was like, taking money from, like, poor
elderly people who didn't know any better.
So. Karen Huger had her 4th DUI
though and they picked Bravo, picked cameras back up to go
film her being released from prison.
I think Karen's a more sympathetic figure than Jin
Shaw. There's the fact like.
A lot. I agree.
I think a lot of viewers hate her too.
Like hate her. And also, Karen had like what,
seven seasons in her before she went to jail?
That's fair. Wrecked Theresa too, yeah.
Maybe I maybe I'm just holding on to like, and Emma will tell
you this about me, like I hold on to like the image of people
that I think they were and like that I that I loved about them.
Maybe, maybe Jim Shaw is just like just not coming back and I
and maybe that's fair. Well, we're notoriously wrong
for predicting things horribly so, you know, don't let that
prediction stand. I would love to see her because
I think it would be messy and it would be great television.
Do I think it's morally correct? No.
Fair what I what I do desperately want.
Do you remember the episode of Mob Wives where they were like
all getting together at the round table And I think it was
Rita comes in and goes Karen stand up and like just starts
running after her to beat her up.
That's what I want from Jen Shaw and Heather.
Where like where Like Jen Shaw comes in and she's like, so who
gave you the black eye? Heather would run so fast.
There should be like friend. I mean, maybe I'm going back a
friend of. But the $4 million necklace
comes up and I, I was under the impression and like, maybe I'm
an idiot, maybe I'm naive. I thought Bronwyn owned that
necklace. It comes out that she lied about
it. And what, what her, her, the way
she presents it, she didn't mean to lie like, oh, it's fine.
She didn't mean to lie, but the way it came off was that she was
lying and I was like, OK, at least she's owning it because
like she, I mean, she does say like I was going to buy another
necklace. I didn't think the women would
notice like this, that and the other.
And like I, I appreciated that because it felt like she came
clean about. I think with, sorry, I think
without was saying it, she said. I was doing, I made a rookie
mistake. I did housewives wrong in that
respect my first season and I was trying to like present
something that wasn't true and, you know, compromised her
integrity. Like the fact that she said
that, I was like, Oh my gosh, someone actually say that Say I
lied. It was wrong.
I went against like who I am just to impress these women and
then without saying it, but just to impress the audience and
like, you know, do housewives and be like this rich chick.
And, you know, I love that she owned it.
And, you know, like, just for anyone to admit they lied is
really rare on housewives. So I think between her and
Whitney, I was like, whoa, I think I'm returning to you.
And be like, the honesty on this episode.
Astounding. Of Bronwyn, because I am at like
the end of Season 2 right now, so I haven't watched 3-4 or five
and I yeah, so she's new to me. And I was like, oh, look at this
woman owning her shit, calling herself immature, admitting that
she did something for the cameras, OK.
So in general, you watch this episode just for us.
Yes. Oh wow, thank you so much.
I hope we didn't have major spoilers for this one episode.
Yes. And like, pretty much.
It's all been spoiled for me anyway because I'm on Twitter
too much. Yeah.
Jeff had to get off Twitter for the longest time.
He's like, why do I keep going on here?
It was just I I can't offer my. Twitter in public so.
Same for probably some more reasons why.
Yeah, yeah. But yeah, like, I, I, I guess I
don't get as much housewives Twitter anymore, which is good
because it was just too toxic. So I stick to other stuff, which
just makes me more happy. Reddit, fair.
Reddit is where I get my housewife stuff.
Well, that's that. Like even then I'm like, I need
to like avoid this because it's just not doing me any good.
I have my opinions, others have their other opinions.
I don't need to hear that. I'm just going to get fired up,
you know, So, yeah. Yeah.
We get Brittany doing her classic Ting Ting Ting like with
like the this is the reason I hate her.
I'll tell you right now. This is why I hate her and she
goes well, Jared and I got engaged in Emma.
I don't know if I told you about this, but Jared Osmond is Donnie
and Marie Osmond's nephew, and apparently in Salt Lake City,
being one of The Osmonds is a massive, massive, massive deal.
Like, God bless. He was so excited to be
connected to The Osmonds and they got engaged and then broke
up two weeks later and they're still dating.
It's so tiresome. It is beyond tiresome.
And it again, that's why it has to be her shtick, like she has
to be putting this on because there's no way.
There's no way. No one's actually like that,
right? I think, I hope not.
I think she's hopelessly devoted to to Jared.
Yeah, I think that's real. I guess the one, one of the few
real things about Brittany is that she is like obsessed with
this man and it's a really toxic relationship and that she's not
getting out. She's living her own Lifetime
movie. That has to be the fattest
fucking Dick then. I don't know why.
Like I mean. I don't know, something makes me
think otherwise. I just don't see it.
I never really thought about Osmond Dick, but I have to say.
I thought it was like a financial thing because again
new to Britney, hated her in this episode but from what I've
gathered she doesn't really have anything going for her so I
thought it was like AI need someone who has income to be
living with me type of thing. Maybe I don't, I don't know, but
I. Love these fresh takes.
Like I assumed Brittany had like Brittany was in a similar
situation to Heather after her divorce where she was just taken
care of because I mean like we get a scene in season 5 where we
go to her house and she's in a nice, nice, nice house.
So like, I just assumed that it was all from her accent.
Maybe it is from Jared. I, I don't know.
But like we, I assume Jared's probably taking care of like 5
other girls too because we find out that he's running around the
Lifetime Cafe with other women. And I also love.
That Whitney works out. At the same gym I do.
I also loved Whitney for being like that's weird because.
Yes, and she was so comfortable doing it too.
She was like, I'm diva. He's in the Lifetime Cafe all
the time and he's not on the machines.
He's not looking up a sweat. Honey, I love it.
I was shocked she said it like as if she was saying something
so casual like where she went to lunch yesterday.
She was like oh your your ex fiance introduces me to his
dates like. What?
I think that's how much we really don't think that
Brittany's serious that they're just like whatever like every
other other women. They will like kind of be
discreet at times with each other, but with Brittany
non-stop, they're just like whatever you crazy person
that's. Insane.
I also love that Scott, you called out in the notes, I like
you're jealous of the jealous of the publicity and the fact that
they still sell chicken salad. Lifetimes.
Chicken salad is so good. Actually, it is incredible.
So I, I bet that it is. So what the one of the companies
that I work for, we own luxury health clubs.
And so there we're always talking about lifetime.
We're like, oh, lifetime this lifetime that.
Like, oh, is it like lifetime? And we recently kind of paired
back our Cafe so we no longer make things like chicken salads.
And so when when they started going on about it, I was like,
well, that's what's going to make lifetime more successful,
that chicken salad. Incredible.
It's got like a little lemony to it.
It's very good. See, I miss, I miss when there
is quality food at the gym. Fair, I'll give you that.
We get to the obligatory We're going to do an activity scene.
Whitney, Meredith and Bron. I'm sorry.
Whitney, Heather and Bronwyn go kayaking and then Mary, Angie,
K, Meredith and Brittany go fly fishing.
Whitney forces Bronwyn and Heather into the same kayak and
I I this, I like Whitney because she's not afraid to get messy.
I like it. And, but like, at the same time,
I also feel like Bronwyn and Heather could be very, very good
friends. I think they are equally matched
like when it comes to intelligence.
And I think they're both so well spoken and I think they have
like very deep personal trauma and stories that they can share,
like to benefit, like the world. And I like them Better Together
than I like them fighting, I'll be honest.
Agreed. I think, I think last year we
were saying that like Heather might have been not threatened,
but like I think caught off guard by the fact that Bronwyn
is similar to her and is very intelligent and is very good
because Heather's really good in a a verbal back and forth and
Bronwyn gave it back to her. So I think she was like, oh, so
wait, that's my role. What are you doing?
And so I think that's OK her off of her.
But yeah, like me out of like, you know, the religious trauma
and, you know, similar experiences and, you know, being
smart and witty. Yeah, they should be a great
duo. And I, I don't, it was
uncomfortable when they weren't, like when everything Heather
went over to Bronwyn's house and they just had that very awkward,
awkward encounter and then being disinvited from the trip.
And there was just, yeah, I didn't like that.
So I like that they were forced to hang out and be in that
kayak. And I'll give Bronwyn the like
because I do buy that like, Heather likes to be in charge.
I don't love the way she presented it where she's like,
oh, it it turns out all you have to do is take a back seat and
like, do whatever. I didn't love that.
But like, I do think it was fair.
Yes. I, I do think Heather has a
control thing, but also I think she has confidence issues to the
point where maybe she's concerned that she'll literally
be booted from the show. That's OK, That's fair.
And this is me. I mean, obviously there's a lot
of contacts I'm missing, but from watching what I've watched
of her early on and now watching this, that's just kind of the
vibe I get. I love Heather so much and I I
feel like the person who doesn't understand how much Heather has
to offer is Heather. Yes, yes, yes.
She's always been that. So I read Heather's book.
I did too read both of them. No, I've only read the first.
One I read both of them. I forgot about the second one,
but she really talks about like, yeah, she is very much, you
know, I want to be liked. I want to be, you know, chosen.
And, you know, it comes from her, you know, family and being
in the church and all that. So, yeah, you're right.
Like he doesn't know how great she is.
And I think she got a lot of, she got a lot of attention and
she was like kind of the breakout star.
And she's really since season 1 become like the narrator of the
show. And I think she took a little
bit too far and then she people like flipped on her, the
audience and she wasn't as likeable in certain seasons,
3:00 and 4:00. So I think she's bounced back a
bit and five and now and six so far, it's on one episode.
So I like where she's going because I did not like Heather
after the whole Monica stuff. I was like Nope.
Nope, I was fine with the Monica thing.
I had a hard time in season 3 with her where it was.
I'm Ryder Divergent Shaw. I'm not talking about this black
eye. I'm not like I I struggled a lot
with that because I was like, you were so much better than
this. Like pull it.
Together and changing the story so many times and like getting
like potentially getting someone in on production in trouble by
like blaming it like it was just like it was bad.
It was bad. I can totally see that.
I just got the vibe. Do you remember when we were at
our nine to five how I just constantly, every day felt like
I was gonna get fired no matter how good a job I was doing?
The imposter center on thing, yes.
That's kind of what I get from her.
I can see some of that, yeah. 100%, yeah.
Now that you say that out loud, 100% yes it's the same thing.
And she was a big Housewives fan.
So like the Beyond Housewives, I think she's kind of like, whoa,
what am I doing here? Like, I love it here, but like,
what am I doing here? OK, you know?
That's fair yes, Meredith. So we we get the the scene and
then we get to Meredith and she looks so incredible in her
little fishing outfit with like the the like little toboggan hat
and everything. I think.
Oh. Yeah, I saw your note there and
I was like, wow. And I, we rewound it because I
was like, let me have a look at this.
So we paused it for like a minute and then I was like, it's
just a ski outfit. I think listen to me very
carefully. I think Meredith like could wear
like a flannel shirt and jeans and look like there's just
something about Meredith where like she is a canvas that an
artist paints on. I think she looks incredible no
matter what. I'm upset.
I worship the ground. She has had some fairly basic
confessional looks even in this episode.
One of them was very plain and she still rocks it.
That color blue on her and her confessional was so.
Are you? It reminded me a lot of one of
Lisa Barlow's very, very early confessional looks.
And I was like, oh, you're doing this right.
This is what it's supposed to look like.
You're. Talking about, yeah.
And cracking up, talking about how long until we catch a fish.
No, just give me an estimate to the point where the guy was
like, there's a reason we call it fishing and not catching.
And she was like, OK, but like. But like how long?
How long? So you had that and then you had
Mary going, well, you could just bring the fish back to life with
CPR, right? Like Mary?
What? What's that?
I think she was talking about catch and release but she didn't
know like right? How it works I don't know.
I don't know, nothing I could assume either is that she was
like, oh, you can just throw it back in.
It's like, well, not if you've already killed it.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like it was like she thought the fish already died if you had it
on a hook and you had to like resuscitate it to throw it back
like. And then the fact that she's
like, well, he's just wrong, Gusty.
She does that with a few things. It was like, it's this.
And then it was like, what was the like?
If you drink carbonated water, it hurts your ovaries.
Like there are just certain things that Mary.
Mary is the Lord and she believes Look.
It up it's. True.
Don't you dare. Google it professional and be
like they are so wrong. Can you believe they said that?
Can you believe these fishermen were trying to tell me about
fish? You don't know, Gusty.
You don't know. Gusty, I love her so much.
Also couldn't figure out his name and just gave up.
I loved that. Gusty.
Gusty could probably tell you about that.
After he said Gusty 16 times. At least you just call him
Bussy. Not Bussy.
The women all end up going out for a campfire and we find out
that Angie K was the worst food planner on God's green earth.
And Mary doesn't eat campfire food, apparently, because, like,
she doesn't like skewered things and there were no hot dog buns.
Or catch up or. Catch up for anything.
And it was like every question they asked Angie K, her eyes
just got bigger and bigger and bigger.
And she was like, oh. You'd think Camping World or
Campers World would have loaded that thing up with food for
them. You would think, you would think
production would have gone to like Meyer or like where I don't
know, I don't know what their stores are out there.
But like you would, you would think that they went to Kroger
with them and say, hey, like Angie, maybe pick up some hot
dog bonds or something like. They're like, no, let's let this
play out. Yeah, let's actually make Angie
go to the grocery store. Like, what did they even need
sliced bread for? That's my question.
Where did the bagels come into play?
It's all. Maybe the bagels are like for
the morning and Mary's like I would have eaten the bagel.
I love bread. So I would have like oh have a
snack and bagel. These women don't eat bread.
Mary did. Mary did.
That's fair. But they were also eating the
hot dogs like right off of the metal thing because they didn't
have any fun to the soul. Did they not have ketchup like I
was so. Amazing, we have.
Ketchup. And you said that, she said.
Oops. Like just eat your hot dog and
be happy. She said.
You're all so entitled to food, Yeah.
Scott, you put a note in here about Heather in the campfire
lore. Oh my God, my.
Swordsen was a real person. Yeah, but still, I just don't
need Heather Gay doing like another like, did you know this
Mormonism folklore tale like, and it just, I of course, if
anyone was going to do it was to be Heather Gay just being like
just so performative and just so like Mormon trivia.
I'm like OK. I love that the Bron was like,
Yep, I know. And I'm like, see you guys are
so aligned. I would have loved a ghost story
that didn't have to be Mormon, You know what I mean?
Like have a little campfire quarry that's not religious.
I don't know. I would argue about the.
Retaining. Oh, it just, Yeah.
That that gross story about training women.
Yeah. Yeah, it's like, if you like are
like out there and kissing boys or whatever, she's going to come
and take you away. What about the men?
What about the men who are like? I will tell you that is I didn't
see it through that lens, but like my religious trauma
probably doesn't allow me to so. It seemed like one stop away
from like, you know, a truck stop hooker story is what it
sounded like. Truck Stop.
I don't know, it just seemed like that was the whole
insinuation behind it, which I just didn't enjoy.
Yeah, it was weird. It was a weird.
Truck Stop, Hooker. Not true crime.
But it was. No, it was a folklore.
He just said that she's a real, real person.
Yeah. There's Molly Sorenson was
absolutely a real person. I googled it.
Like Lizzie Borden. Lizzie Borden, who like killed
her parents. Took a axe, took 30 wacks.
That whole weird. You don't know We're only ones,
OK? You need to dive into that old
campfire. Mama, let's research Lizzie
Borden, I guess. Yeah, she was a real person, but
now they're saying she like, haunts the ravine.
OK, OK. Yeah, she was in.
The school bus. I didn't know anything about
Lizzie Borden. I mean, I do like, it's OK.
It's not that great. I do love random creepy
situation. So the like huddling up and
like, OK, guys, let's go down these train tracks.
Like, I, I don't know, I thought that was kind of funny.
If you like it, I love it. The entire time I was doing that
I was like, I don't need the kitschy Blair Witch found
footage thing. I didn't need it.
But if you like it, I love it. I thought it was great use of
those camcorders they didn't need, Yeah.
Right if we're. Going to have them at least use
them for something good. Production lean.
Thank God. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Everyone kind of gangs up on Baby Gorgeous at the campfire
again and we get like 5 seconds of that and then Brittany goes,
Whitney, I was really offended by what you said that I do for
money. And I was like, shut up, this is
not for you. You've had enough time in this
episode. Well, and so are the other
women. They were all very much like we
don't need. This is not the time for this,
Brittany. Yeah, it's like Whitney's like
having a real moment and being honest and, you know, saying my
business failed, I lost a shit ton of money.
You know, I feel horrible about it.
I had to fire people. And, you know, it doesn't,
again, doesn't happen on Housewives.
Like just that honesty. And in the middle of all this
and Brittany's like, well, yeah, but back to me.
But this isn't the first time she's done that.
She did that in part of where? Where did they?
Was it part of Aorta that they went to?
Yeah. Puerto Vallarta when they were
down there and she was like, you guys, what about me?
I feel so left out. Shut up.
I think I sent that to you, Emma.
Where? Like she like that scene.
Britney was like, you guys, you're not supporting me.
I had some really great news about my daughter.
Shut up. Well, that right.
And then at the Audrey Hepburn party, she's like you guys.
Like she stood up and was like. That's where it was.
Yes, that's where it was. Yeah, yeah.
Brittany and the problem that I have with Brittany, I'm glad,
sorry. I just, I I couldn't believe her
timing because I understand the conversation they were talking
about where Whitney said you suck Dick for money and then
Brittany said you started in MLM.
I get that she's like conflating that, but for her to see this
woman crying about her husband being fully invested and having
to fire 30 people and then being like, well, I would still like
an apology. It's.
Comedically bad is what it is like the timing is so
comedically bad on and then we do get into and this is I really
appreciate this about Whitney because something I will give
Whitney she the the healing journey I could have done
without. But like she's very, very honest
and real about like everything she goes through.
And I don't think we're getting an act with with Whitney.
I think it's all real and I do appreciate that.
Yeah, no, I. Agree with that I agree, yes.
I like her, like in general I I think she has no filter and I
think she's just like saying what's on the top of her mind.
Wait until season 3 or 4 and tell me how much you like her.
But when it's all about the healing journey, like it's a
little like when it revolves around like I'm, I'm unpacking
all the trauma, like I, I won't take that away from her because
I think that's very real when she makes every situation about
that. That's what I struggled with.
Yeah, she definitely went a little overboard with it and and
just kept on, like when she tried to conflate whether she
was drunk or not, you know, being used in Heather's book,
that was kind of like, what are you talking about?
Like you've been trying to have a story.
Yeah. Fake outrage.
Fake. Outrage, but yeah.
But I do. I Whitney came back for me.
She came back for me last season and I'll take it.
What else? Did you like her red hair?
No. I love her as a blonde.
She's. So I do like her as a.
Blonde more for sure. Yeah, Yeah, I didn't.
Oh. Go ahead, she's gorgeous and can
do whatever but like the blonde suits her better.
I have said on our podcast probably 50,000 times that her
face should be plastered everywhere.
Her face should be studied. Stunning.
She is beautiful and her skin is always like glass.
Well, love her. She has made some.
An event at a drag event once, she was fantastic.
Really. Was she really?
Not perfect in person. Oh yeah.
It's just, it's, it was just like off putting how pretty she
was. I was.
I. Believe that?
Yeah. And this is one thing I also
believe about Whitney is you know how a lot of like women,
you and I have known people like this before where like they
collect gay people as friends and it's like, I have gay
friends. I wholeheartedly believe Whitney
is like, no, no, no, I'm, I'm an ally to the community and I
really do love gay men. I that's something I really
appreciate about. Yeah.
No, I would. I would, it's not like, oh, I
have to have a gay. It's like, no, these are
actually real people and they are my friends and not my
accessories, so. Yes, yes.
But they might also be my glam, OK.
Maybe, but like I, I would love to be Whitney's glam, I'll tell
you that, right? I would love to be Meredith's
glam, I'll tell you that, right? And maybe even maybe gorgeous as
glam. Well, that.
'D be a full time job for sure. Oh 100% because $60,000 a year
on glam. Yes.
Just on glam. Just on glam, she.
Doesn't go anywhere without her. I go to see I have glam and
Sandra pay. I have glam everywhere.
Oh my God, I love her so much. I have a cop somewhere that says
that like I got something from Bravo that was like, I have glam
everywhere I go. Anyway.
I did appreciate Winnie being vulnerable.
I also appreciated her pushing Brittany away, saying I don't
want you. I'm not ready for a hug right
now. And then and then you guys put
in a saying, what did Meredith do this episode besides come for
Brittany? Yeah, what did Meredith really
do like? So she's very non present in
this episode. I don't need her to do anything
besides come for for Brittany, but.
It was like that one moment coming for Brittany and that was
really about it. She's going to get along with
everybody for the most part. And she defended Lisa.
You know by saying every business takes I'm alone.
It makes me wonder if she's going to have anything major
storyline wise this season or if she's be kind of another
participant instead of. I'm sure she I would hope she
does. I was going to say I'm sure she
will. I hope she does because last
year was kind of a similar thing where she didn't have a lot
going on right like she had she had her bar mitzvah.
And now she has all the DJ money rolling in.
So you know I have a DJ. I hope that they talk about her
being a DJ. Well, they have to.
They absolutely have. They should have given her a set
out in the woods. That would have been a great
premiere. They should have let her have
the like do the new like theme music because you know who is
it? It's not in my Miami.
That's. Adriana.
Adriana, yeah, that's, that's her scene.
Like, that's her Miami song. Do you actually think that
Meredith Marks is mixing anything?
Because I believe she has someone doing that for her.
And she is going up there and pressing play and shaking our
little titties. And I love it.
And I'll watch every little video that I can find.
It's a lot of jumping and I'm like, good on her.
That's some. You know, good exercise 'cause
it's just like jumping jumping. She's got Guardia water.
Yeah, her two turntables in a microphone.
She's actually listening. To anything in the headphones.
She's. Talking probably exactly what's
coming out of the speakers, just a lot lower volume.
Just I love it. It's like this is a little too
loud. Brooke's putting it.
Down. And noise cancelling and she has
it playing really soft. Actually, Enya and the
headphones. Not Enya.
She's sailing away. Sail away, Sail away.
Oh Lord, so the women end up going.
On Meredith doesn't have to do anything this season.
She just needs to be Meredith. I got you.
I'm with you. That's all I need her to be and
here's the oddest to God's truth.
That's all I need any of the women to be is themselves.
Like it's they are all fairly entertaining.
And even Brittany, like if she just sits there and it's pretty
like I can handle that too, because I think she's one of the
most beautiful men in the world. That's what I hate about her
because I'm just like, like I wish I didn't like this about
you because I don't want to like anything about you.
But. I did just remember one more
Meredith moment this episode and it was so funny because she
literally almost said nothing the whole episode.
But she did find a way to plug her caviar.
She said. I know nothing about fish except
for that's where I get my. Cavity guys.
I forgot about that, yes. And I wish I liked fish because
like, I would, I wish I could eat Meredith's caviar like.
I wish I ate fish. They'll have caviar.
It doesn't taste like fish, it tastes like nothing.
Yeah, perfect. I I never hired caviar.
Yeah. Tastes like butter, kind of
like. Oh, perfect, I.
Haven't had caviar in a very long time, but yeah, that seems
to be what I recall. Butter.
Yeah, gorgeous. We, we support we.
Support lots of Gorga and all her cookie endeavors, but we
haven't gotten with the Meredith's Meredith's caviar
yet. Are Melissa's cookies good?
Yeah, yes, the cake is. I love the cake.
The coffee cake. It's it's very good.
We've had two so far. The cookies are, you know what
you'd expect? Kind of, but they're very, we
keep saying it, moist. They're very moist cookies.
And you don't. Do you not like the word moist?
Well, no, but. I feel like the Internet
doesn't. Yeah, we.
Hi Internet, the word moist is dusty.
Approved. I hope you're OK with that.
But yeah, the the coffee cake's delicious, yes.
Beautiful. Have you have you bought any of
the housewives merch? Do you have a anything that?
Emma will tell you that I single handedly, like, am the sole
supporter of the Skinny Girl brands in the state of Indiana.
Yeah, I forgot about Skinny Girl.
I was about to be like, no, not really, except for like 60
bottles of Skinny Girl. That's true.
That's really like, that's all I've really bought.
I I bought some. What did I buy from Countess
Louie? I like I stream her songs on
Apple Music because I I'm trash but you're sheets because money
can't buy you class. So we have 3 sheets.
We have three sets of Porsche's sheets.
Try saying that three times. I didn't know Porsche had
cheese. She has, yeah.
Pampered by Porsche. They're.
Really good sheets they're. Amazing.
Yeah, I'll Google that right now.
Pampered by Porsche, Yeah. The only other thing we thought
I thought of getting Jeff like a three Wick candle for Christmas,
but they were they were really expensive.
I'm like I'm at 80 bucks for a joke is not funny to me.
Yeah. Is it from Karen or from Wendy?
I wanted to get one of each just to make the the joke work.
So it could burn them both and be like the.
Seppos are still on the market because I was looking into that.
Actually, yeah. And I don't know that they still
sell them. I don't know that they were ever
on the market. Yeah, I think that was a
storyline could be right. These things are not that
expensive. No, they're not.
There's a good there. Yeah, a good price.
Oh, and I can buy them on Amazon, which means my papaw is
going to pay for it because my my Amazon is charged to his
credit cards anyway. What a day.
What, so you're a Papa? Yeah, my Papa.
My. Grandpa.
Yeah, OK, that's cute. It's it's really cute.
It's from Kentucky. Anyway, sorry, like sorry to be
the women go on a ghost hunt. Bronwyn was wearing a Gucci
beanie and the logo looks like the nasty pig logo.
I didn't see it until you wrote it and the notes, and then I was
like, oh, I see it. Because I saw it earlier and
thought that's a really weird logo.
But then when you see it kind of in the grainy video, I was
totally like, oh, 100% see what he's what he sees.
I feel like a problem with supporting nasty pigs, so I
think that's OK. 1000% she'd be like Oh yeah it's art.
And then they go on there like found footage, ghost hunt.
I think Meredith falls or something.
I hope she's OK. I'll kill myself if she's not.
And then we get a sneak peek at the rest of the season.
I get. So like I didn't, I guess I
didn't clock it, but Whitney at one point said that they go on
three trips this year. So they go to Greece, they went
on the RV trip and then there's like a below Deck crossover for
Down Under. So at some point they go to
Australia and I'm so excited. I'm also what I will say I I
never need to hear another word about Angie Castaneda's being
Greek. But like, I'm so excited that
she gets to go to Greece. Like I love that for her.
Like if she if they didn't, I'd be like, girl, like you're
missed, missed opportunity. Like you talk so much about it.
Like that is the girls trip. I'm so glad they're doing that.
And Greece has been beautiful. So right.
And then on the other side of like me being super excited
about like everything that's to come, it does see like it does
look like we get a little bit more about Robert Junior's
journey. This is in light of like he
literally just got arrested last week.
So like, that's wild. But like, I, I'm like, I want
him to be OK number one. But like, I'm so excited for
this season. Like my show is back.
I'm so happy all. Right, like there's I think I'm
Salt Lake. They all perform well.
Like there's never a filler episode.
It's just like really good intense camp and drama and fun
and and. The right balance of it all.
It's not like it's not getting dark like the other shows are
getting where it's, you know, being accused of drugging each
other, things like that. Right.
Just sucking Dick for Utah Jazz tickets.
But yeah. Oh, and then I didn't realize
Jeff wrote this in here, but like, he you wrote that like,
this is similar to Lisa's Bezos party where it's all like
contained and it's like a capsule episode.
So I I I agree. I think so smart of like, let's
put them all together because usually like the first episode
of the season is like, let's see what everyone's doing, been
doing since we last saw them. And I'm like, I don't need that.
Let's all be together on a cash trap and chaos will ensue.
And that's the entire episode. Like that's I think they
originated that I don't I haven't seen like every single
first season episode of every show, but I think like that's
pretty smart and and Salt Lake. 100% So based on this episode
and this episode alone, if you had to be friends with any of
the women from Salt Lake City, who would it be?
One person or. Just just any, any, or any of
the women. Or if you had to pick multiple,
that's fine too. I'd say Bronwyn.
I'd say Bronwyn, yeah, or Angie Primary.
Angie, Those are like my thoughts.
OK, I'd say Bronwyn, probably followed by Whitney.
I like what you do. I like so you part of you wants
to say Mary, right? You're like, oh, I'd hang out
with Mary, but you would be so goddamn confused the entire time
you're hanging out with her. You'd be like wait is.
This Emma does not want to say Mary.
I don't get her. Yeah, I don't, especially in
Season 2. I don't either.
It's off the rails. In Season 1, she left a bad
taste in my mouth and now I'm like through season 2 basically.
I'm like almost to the reunion and I'm like, wow, we just don't
click. I don't know.
Something really changes with her when she decides to actually
participate on the show. Like I don't know what they
explained to her, how much of A raise they gave her, but once
she starts really actually being present, she's amazing.
But those years where she's just like, would rather be doing
anything else, it was awful to watch.
It's awkward. Yeah, Yeah.
I'm gonna give you my answer in a second, but like, if you like,
if you look back and Emma, like, do you, do you remember a couple
of the episodes where Mary's in her kitchen and then Robert
Junior comes home after being gone for like 2 days and she's
like, where were you? Like, why didn't you answer your
phone? I promise.
In Season 4 that is was it? Is he season 4 or five?
That is going to make sense. And I think that'll put into
context why she was not present. Oh.
Yeah, I never even. Really.
Thought I never thought about that.
Because I was, I was about to say, being a good mom.
Controversial hot take here. Being a good mom is not enough
to make me like you on reality television.
There are lots of good mothers out there.
Give myself. I, I don't, I get, I get where
you struggle with Mary 100%. I just, I, there's something
about her that I really like and I don't know what it, I can't
quite put my finger. I I think she's just out of her
mind. I think that's what I like about
her. Yeah.
But Emma, who? Who would you want to be friends
with? Probably Heather or Meredith.
They were pretty quiet, but Meredith really had me on the
floor. It was clearly her first time
fishing, that was. Absolutely what I.
Need an ETA on this fish catching.
Where's, Where are the fish? For me, I think it would be God,
gun to my head. I, I think Angie.
I think based on this episode alone, I think Angie.
Really. I think, yeah, I think she like
Angie. Like, she's just, she's fun.
She's like. She's still she doesn't take
herself too seriously, even though she's a pillar in the
community. Yeah, she's willing to get messy
and you know, and, but she'll own up to it too, yes, Or just
downright gaslight you one way or the other, but no in between.
She's a business woman. She's all the things, yes, and
she's. Beautiful.
Well, you guys, this, I think this is a really cool crossover
experience. I think we had an absolute time.
I had a good time. I definitely had a good time I
it. Wasn't a good time.
Yeah, absolutely. I feel a little out of it just
because I've been home all day getting ready to go camping
tomorrow. So like I've just been kind of
in and out. But yeah, no, I had a really fun
time. Like, I think I love talking
about housewives, but I think I'd love to do another one where
we just like, talk about random stuff, like just, you know,
what's been going on Because like, that's what you normally
do on your show. Just like, let's have a let's
catch up. And I'm like, yeah, I like to do
that too. I love that this is.
Also burning down. Right.
This is also such a long episode for you guys too, because like
you guys just like usually clock it like 35 minutes at the most.
And I'm like, I looked down and I was like an hour and 15
minutes. But it's good because, like, I
think, you know, we are coming straight from the episode and
we're like, also sometimes a little bit tired and it's also a
little hot up here. So like, yeah, yeah.
Then that happened. OK, good night.
Till next time. So I think I like that you took
the notes and, like, walked us through it and the entire
episode I'm like, Oh yeah, that .0.
Yeah, yeah, may have said that, yeah.
And like I did warn you guys, like I take notes like an insane
person and I hope it lived up to like what?
That was great. I've tried taking notes before
and it just ends up being like little keywords and later on I'm
like, what the hell was I talking about?
So like, no, you're, you're, I appreciate you doing that.
That was great. Of course.
Emma, do you just rely on him or do you take your own notes?
If I added to this I think we might go insane.
This is a note for like a regular episode.
I'm along for the ride. I just I've decided that if I
put notes in there it would be far too long and I'm funnier in
the moment. I what I will say, and This is
why Emma is always been such an incredible like partner, like
walking through my life with me and Co host like with me.
She is so so, so so good at just letting me be is absolutely out
of my mind as I know I am. I just like as, as, as I clearly
am. Like I, I'm not going to say for
one second that I'm not like chaos, but she's, she does a
very good job of a controlling that chaos.
Like she knows when to rein me in.
And she's also so great about just being like, yeah, we'll see
where the vibe goes. Like we'll see what happens.
Like, he's so good at that. And it's good to have an
outline. I love an outline.
That's kind of what I treated as well.
So we we tend to rely on the pictures behind us.
So we go through and like we just make sure we touch up on
each of the housewives. And so sometimes we're like, we
talk about her yet and then. Yeah, a really jogging memory,
yeah. So we actually screw ourselves
and we're missing a set of pictures.
We're like, oh, who do we forget?
No. I love that.
OK, Jeff and Scott, tell us where we can find you.
Tell the listeners. Tell everyone.
No, we're just so happy we actually have our own website
now. So husband's watching
housewives.com. We'll give you all the stuff
there. So and then husband's watching
on TikTok and some form of that everywhere.
Else on Instagram, Instagram, all the places, yes, Spotify,
wherever. YouTube.
Wherever you get your podcasts. I'm very happy with our search
engine results. I I Google myself when I'm bored
at work. Now I'm like, oh, the husbands
are places. I love that it's nice.
I also want to make sure that people don't confuse us with
other, you know, husbands watching other things because it
could could get dirty if it gets to the wrong.
Site, yeah. Yeah, I think I've got a few of
those bookmarks, but. Where are they watching?
Yeah, no, we're watching The Real Housewives.
That's what we do, yeah. I love it.
Well, thank you so much for being here with us and thank you
for having such a fun time with us.
Like this has been so cool. This is fantastic.
I hope we can do it again so we can get into some more, some
more deep seated opinions and maybe some disagreements on on
where we get with different housewives that.
'D be fun, whatever you want. Because, like, we're very
similar in our beliefs. And so it's fun to hear, like
others like, OK, that's a valid point why you don't like her.
So yeah. Well, I've got a ton of those,
don't you worry. Let this season of Potomac start
and I'll have opinions for everyone.
I will too. Trust, trust you, me.
There's an open door for you to come on for the season premiere.
Potomac. What is it?
October 6th? I think whatever you want.
Do that because just like those other podcasts are on Teresa's
payroll and there were rumors that Robin Dixon was paying off
podcasts to if Giselle started paying me, I would have no
shame. She doesn't have to pay me.
She doesn't have to pay me at all.
Dear Giselle, don't you worry, you are bestie approved.
But yeah, thank you guys so much for being here.
We loved it. Do you guys have anything else
you want to blog before you go? No.
Not at all. Thank you for having.
Thanks for having us, and yeah, listen to it whenever we're at
your podcast. Woo Hoo.
Yes. Cool.