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Cool, awesome. 
Do you guys want to go first? 

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I mean, I guess so we could do 
the welcome to another episode 

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of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott and we have some 

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special guests with us today. 
We're also and. 

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We're their guests, Yeah, saw 
this. 

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Who's who's guest? 
We don't know. 

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I'm Travis. 
And I'm Emma. 

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And this is bestie approved. 
Yeah, it's all working out 

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that's like these, this is like 
our second collaboration ever. 

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So it's just, you know. 
Same. 

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A lot of learning, yeah. 
Like we've, we've been guests on

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one other podcasts and like, I 
didn't even know that was a 

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collab. 
Like I think it was just us 

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being guests. 
I don't really I, I never got 

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the like the audio from that. 
No idea what happened with that.

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I don't even know if it got 
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but. 
I'm just talking. 

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And it's what we're best at. 
What's the last song that 

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everyone listened to? 
I don't know if I told you guys 

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about this, but like, this is 
something cute that Emma and I 

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do at the beginning of every 
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What's the last song about the V
listen to? 

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That requires me to know the 
names of the bands that I listen

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to. 
I I'm pretty much at at the will

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of Spotify, playing things 
randomly at me. 

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I'm like, oh, I like this song. 
OK, I love. 

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That what was. 
I. 

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Apparently I listened to 
Scarlett by Holly Humberstone 

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most recently. 
That's the what I'm into. 

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Jeff was probably listening to 
some disco fantasticness on. 

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The way to a podcast like On the
Way Home. 

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So but before that, I think the 
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one? 
It was my like song, which is 

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like 500 or 600 songs. 
Just pick one, anyone. 

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Which ones your vibe right now? 
It's really like a mismatch or a

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mash up of like I, I don't 
listen to a lot of current 

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stuff. 
So it's just like a lot of, you 

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know, maybe 70s or 80s or 90s or
2000s. 

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And so you're like an adult 
contemporary radio station. 

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Pretty much like there's like 
beautiful few people that I will

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listen to, like encourage 
people, but it's really, you 

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know, far and few between. 
So it might have been some it 

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was an old song, but. 
What about you? 

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Guys, that was also old. 
It was Fade Into by Mazzy Star. 

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Oh, that's a good one. 
It's a good one. 

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It's on my list. 
Mine is fairly old, like 20-12 

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ish. 
Better than that. 

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The Dave Outie remix by or Yeah 
by Sub Radio. 

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Yeah, I lost on that one. 
Very gay, very gay. 

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Do you guys just like want to 
jump into the episode? 

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I feel like it was a pretty big 
episode. 

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Unless there's anything on 
anyone else's minds before we 

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jump in, 'cause I don't have 
given the current state of the 

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world, I don't feel like 
complaining about politics right

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now like I. 
I yeah, no, same. 

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Same. 
Absolutely, yeah. 

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Getting into that episode is 
probably a better place to go. 

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Perfect. 
I was going to tell you 

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something. 
I just like read something 

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before I like hopped out of the 
car but. 

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What did you read? 
I mean Kimmel got a show 

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cancelled. 
Well, that Jimmy. 

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Did he get his show cancelled? 
Well, he got pulled 

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indefinitely. 
Definitely. 

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Yeah. 
It just happened. 

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Yeah, That's crazy. 
Everyone's favorite. 

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Yeah. 
Right, because I can tell you 

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the last time I watched Jimmy 
Kimmel. 

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I mean, that's true too. 
Same. 

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But I do enjoy him as a. 
Host. 

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I do too. 
And I enjoy free speech so. 

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But we can go like a whole down,
like a whole sad Rd. about that.

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So sorry. 
I had no idea. 

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That's crazy. 
It just happened. 

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I think I, I just saw it like I 
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once I got off. 
Looking at your phone? 

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That's fine, that's cool. 
I got off the road, so I sent. 

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Tik Toks to Emma while I was 
driving before. 

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It's fun. 
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Him be in reverse and launch 
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like godspeed I guess. 
Godspeed. 

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It's a real talent. 
Jesus, take the wheel. 

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Actually though, cool so. 
Guys. 

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So yeah, where? 
Where did the show start? 

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That's it. 
So every week, Scott says that 

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to me because I'm because. 
Well, I don't remember. 

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I don't remember shit. 
I really just don't remember a 

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thing at all. 
I'm like I know we just watched 

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that but like how the show 
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end up by the end of the show 2 
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And so he'll say that and I'm 
like, oh, where did it start? 

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So that's kind of the cool thing
that Salt Lake City has done the

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last couple of years is they've 
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all inside of like a capsule 
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They're not all over the place. 
It's not a ton of different 

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scenes. 
But we start and end on a 

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camping trip. 
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Angie K picks Mary up in a 
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And I guess they, like, they 
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getting on this RV excursion 
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And I love that so much because 
I'm obsessed with the idea of an

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RV trip. 
I've told him about this a 

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million times. 
Like I want so badly to like 

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drive across the country in an 
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I've always wanted to do that 
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And I always thought like, oh, 
thanks a lot. 

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You know, MTV and road rules and
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me. 
I just always wanted to. 

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But of course, no challenges 
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I don't need those. 
I would do like one or two 

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challenges. 
Go ahead, Sir. 

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I would hate to be surprised by 
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being close quarters with nine 
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into it. 
There's no way I also feel like.

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For that, yeah. 
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this thing. 
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said she would Co host so that 
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fuck they were going. 
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Well. 
That's accurate. 

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And then she didn't. 
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present like, but yeah, like I 
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because my husband told me to. 
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idea to like, take the women on 
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They had camping real plaster 
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Like it was very clearly 
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And it's fine. 
I I I can I can deal with the 

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illusion of some of it her. 
RV that they showed was not the 

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RV they were in either. 
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all show up. 
They or they, everyone shows up 

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at Beauty Lab and Laser, the 
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arrested. 
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We find out that Angie, Whitney 
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with baby gorgeous Lisa, which 
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on the bus and. 
No, it's because she's working. 

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She has work to be done. 
She. 

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Is with Blake Lively OK? 
A Blake and Ben, But Blake and 

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Ben. 
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And to be fair, I did see 
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Instagram. 
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Whatever you need to tell 
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Gorgeous. 
What else? 

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I couldn't tell. 
I couldn't tell from your notes,

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like where Lisa Barlow like 
ranks and like your your 

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hierarchy of the Salt Lake 
housewives because you were you 

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had a lot of notes that were 
like, I love her. 

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I love her but also like I don't
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That's where I struggle so much.
And Emma will tell you this, I, 

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I like the idea of Lisa Barlow. 
I imagine in real life she's 

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probably one of the most fun 
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I think she's probably 
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I think she's wonderful. 
I think she has a very, very 

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hard time not being the alpha 
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And I that's, I think that's 
where you get a lot of the, that

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her screaming at when you're 
lying, you're lying. 

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And like, I can't handle when 
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narrative. 
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been presented on the show, for 
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So I really, really want to like
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I really want to like all the 
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I don't have a problem with 
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You, I'm sure you could tell 
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stand Brittany. 
But everyone else I really, 

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really like. 
And I want to like Lisa. 

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Right. 
No, agreed. 

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I think I don't know. 
We're irritates lever living 

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snot out of us, but she's one of
the ones that's supposed to you 

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know, you're I don't think 
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everything that she does. 
And I think that we're like, I'd

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rather not, but she does a good 
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Do I don't know, I feel like you
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pages on Instagram, particularly
Queens of Bravo. 

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You're supposed to worship Lisa 
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So I was glad she wasn't on the 
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going to talk about her and I 
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was going to say they can't go 
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about Lisa. 
Lisa's carrying the show even 

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not without being there. 
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because I think they all pull 
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have something to add in its 
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And it's not just the Lisa show.
Like there's no housewives or 

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there shouldn't be the 
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insert person's show. 
I agree, I think. 

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If anyone wasn't there, they 
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It didn't matter who it was. 
Yes. 

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Yeah, I agree. 
And I think that's what I like 

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about this show is like, I think
they are all equally matched in 

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this show. 
Like I don't think there's one 

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person that carries it. 
And there's like you, you can 

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make the argument about Mary in 
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was like not on the show and 
then she was a friend of like 

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I'll, I'll buy that with Mary. 
But like I also think she did 

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not want to be part of the the 
show and she had more going on 

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in her life cause we see what 
happened in season 5 with her 

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son. 
But like I I I think everyone 

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there really holds their own 
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Anyway, Brittany's back this 
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of me does love that she saw 
this invitation and she took it 

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for face value and she showed up
in a bikini under her coat and 

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she said I'm Britney Spears. 
Look at me like. 

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I loved that. 
Did she really? 

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Yeah. 
I loved her little fit. 

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Yeah, I kind of yeah. 
I enjoyed that. 

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That was the one thing I was 
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Brittany. 
The thing is about Brittany, 

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she's an actress, so I think 
she. 

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Is she is a Broadway girl? 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, she, I think a lot of this
is like her acting and playing 

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the part of a housewife. 
And I wonder, I'm like, are you 

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really like this or are you just
like giving a performance? 

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OK, so now that you're saying 
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reframes my the entire way I 
think about her because like now

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I'm just like, oh, she this is 
the whole like the the her 

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giving the toast and the her 
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I can't. 
Even say it last season about 

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Jared Osman. 
Like that, that, that whole song

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and dance. 
Now that you're saying that, I'm

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like, oh, maybe there is 
something to that. 

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You can see the acting. 
She's acting. 

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Because she's not that good at 
it. 

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I mean what? 
Bless her heart, bless her, 

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bless her little heart. 
They so they all get on the RVI 

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was so obsessed with all of it 
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Like I want to be on an RV so 
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And they do a little flashback. 
Emma, have you, have you gotten 

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to the point in season 2 yet 
where Jen Shaw got arrested? 

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Yeah. 
OK, so they do the shot for shot

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like reenactment of the, the 
SWAT team showing up and they're

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like, and I, I want to know who 
all knew about this in advance? 

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Cuz like I could tell Heather 
was acting. 

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But the whole oh, the, they, 
they show up and like, and then 

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you realize they're strippers. 
Like I was fine with it, but 

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like up until the moment that I 
realized they were strippers, I 

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was so mad. 
I was like, I don't want this. 

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I don't like take this back. 
I don't want this on my 

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household. 
So yeah, but I. 

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Immediately knew they were 
strippers did. 

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You really? 
Yeah, the SWOT thing it gave 

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like FBI female body inspector. 
Vibe. 

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OK, so maybe I'm just like too 
naive, I don't know. 

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But like, one of those strippers
is a little thick and I was 

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super into that. 
For like half a second I thought

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like, wait a minute, is this an 
actual like, are the police out 

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there? 
Is there something like is the 

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is the RV in a no parking zone? 
I thought it'd be some crap like

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that, but then I was like. 
I thought they were just like 

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showing up to like, oh, look, 
it's like we're we're doing a 

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funny little like bit like I, I 
thought that's what was 

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happening. 
But like the thick stripper, 

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really I was like, I'll take it.
That's fine. 

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I do like Whitney though, I 
think she's so funny. 

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I liked Whitney a lot this 
episode. 

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And then that was like, that was
a good set up. 

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Yeah, that was a good prank. 
It took me a minute with Whitney

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on this episode cuz I was like, 
I think I had a bad taste in my 

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mouth from like the last couple 
of seasons on her healing 

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journey. 
Like I was just like, I don't 

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like, I don't, I don't need it. 
But like, I, I was really 

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surprised at how vulnerable she 
was able to be. 

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Like with everything that's gone
on with the business. 

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And like I I was, I became a big
fan of Whitney this this 

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episode. 
Well, she's on her. 

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She's on her filling journey. 
So her business failed. 

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She. 
Failed and. 

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On a filling journey. 
My favorite moment of the show 

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around that fire pit. 
We'll get to it later, but when 

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she says I'm not ready for a hug
right now, that was my favorite 

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moment of the whole that. 
Was actually, I wrote that down 

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at some point. 
That was very good, she said. 

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I don't. 
Like she stopped talking. 

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She's like. 
It was the face she made for me.

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I was like, yes, we're back. 
To be sobbing your eyes out and 

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be like get off of me. 
They get into Lisa not being on 

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the RV and and she says it's 
because she had a work thing. 

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But then we get a flashback to 
Lisa on FaceTime flat out saying

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she doesn't want to spend the 
night with Bronwyn. 

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I how do you guys feel about 
Bronwyn? 

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Let me ask you this. 
I like Bronwyn a lot. 

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I think she bought a lot to the 
show last season. 

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I like anyone who can. 
I feel the other woman to a 

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certain extent. 
Maybe not Angie, maybe not 

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Whitney will just like back off 
when like Lisa comes at them. 

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And the fact that Bronwyn, I 
think it was when they were in 

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Palm Springs and she was just 
like, what was the line like? 

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You're doing your job like. 
You expect me to like ride your 

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Dick like it's my job. 
Like I was like, yes, yes, give 

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it to her. 
Like give me that head shake. 

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Like all that was was was good 
for me. 

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So the fact that Lisa's saying I
don't want to be there because 

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Bronwyn's there, it's like 
really you've had bigger beefs 

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with like Heather and Whitney, 
like, why are you acting as if 

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Bronwyn is like the most is the 
worst thing ever? 

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So I thought that was just dumb 
like, and it's also it's well, 

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two things. 
One, it's your job. 

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I know you have a real job, but 
this is your job to go on this 

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cash trip. 
So I don't know what you're 

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thinking there. 
But then I also read, and this 

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may not be true, but you know, 
because it was on Reddit that 

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someone was saying that she was 
still in contract negotiations 

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when they started filming and so
that's why she wasn't on this 

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episode. 
Did you see that? 

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Oh no, I didn't see that. 
I remember that. 

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I remember that being an issue 
when we heard they started 

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filming is that she wasn't yet 
finalized. 

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Interesting, was it? 
Wait, Bronwyn wasn't finalized? 

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No, she was trying to play 
hardball, I think. 

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Or maybe she successfully did. 
Yeah, interesting. 

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Because otherwise I feel like 
she would be like, I, I hate, I 

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may hate all these chicks, but I
will at least show up because 

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it's my job. 
But if she's still trying to 

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negotiate to come back on the 
season, then you're not going to

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appear and they're going to keep
rolling with without you. 

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Well, that's the interesting 
thing. 

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And like Emma and I have talked 
about this. 

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We talked about this with Secret
Lives of Mormon Wives, with 

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Taylor not going on with the 
cast trips. 

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We're like, that's a different 
beast from the housewives 

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because the housewives will just
like cut you out. 

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Like they'll be like, OK, well 
you didn't want it that bad, so 

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friend up I guess. 
No call, no showed girlfriend. 

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Yeah, I think that's why, like, 
Heather was so pissed at Bronwyn

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for not inviting her on that 
Palm Springs trip last year, 

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because she was like, I would 
come, but if you're not inviting

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me, I can't come. 
Therefore I'm not in the 

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episode, therefore I'm not going
to be paid for this episode. 

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And you're really screwing me. 
That's true. 

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Yeah. 
But so they get into that a 

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little bit and we get more into 
that a little bit later. 

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Because I think, I wonder if 
part of it was also like, she 

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just like didn't like didn't 
want to deal with the lawsuit 

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stuff because like, I, I don't 
think she wanted the same 

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treatment for better or worse, 
that Jin Shaw got it. 

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Cuz I'm, I mean, the way she, 
granted, it's a very, very 

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different situation, but the, 
the way that they just hung Jin 

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Shaw out to dry with the lawsuit
stuff, I don't think Lisa wanted

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to put herself in that situation
where the woman could say 

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anything similar to that about 
her. 

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But I I think aside from Jen 
Shaw, Lisa always does this 

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thing we were just talking about
where she's like so worried 

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about her image and like the PR 
of it all that she like, well, 

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things are pending. 
Maybe didn't want to have that 

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conversation. 
I'll buy that 100%, yeah. 

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That makes sense too. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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But we also get into a fight 
between Whitney and Brittany. 

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Yeah, Whitney and Brittany about
fighting, about Whitney's 

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business. 
And I don't like Brittany 

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bringing this stuff up because 
I'm like, Brittany, you don't 

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have a business. 
I shut up. 

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I want to hear your mouth. 
I can't stand her. 

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And then we cut to Angie K 
drinking tequila straight from 

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the bottle. 
And I loved it so much. 

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But the fight de evolution 
because she started pouring 

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shots and then the girls start 
fighting and like then you see 

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her just. 
Devolved into like. 

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Streaming I kept trying to see 
like if there were if the bottle

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kept going full, empty, full 
empty like during different cuts

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just to kind of see like how 
consistently they were or were 

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not drinking, but I didn't 
really catch anything. 

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Yeah, this cast drinks like this
cast. 

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It's, it's not like some of the 
women on Beverly Hills, and it's

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not like I, it's not like some 
of the women in Potomac, like 

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this guy's drinks. 
Yeah, yeah, I love it. 

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I was surprised that, oh, sorry,
I was. 

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I was. 
Please go ahead. 

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I was surprised by Brittany's 
like, such, her strong defense 

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of Lisa. 
And they're like sisters now and

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like, how dare you besmirch her 
name. 

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Whitney. 
I was like, what? 

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Where is this coming from? 
Brittany was trying to get a a 

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permanent spot as a as a 
housewife and not a friend of 

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that's what that was. 
I can definitively. 

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Talk. 
Yeah, that's where she would. 

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I don't think they're actually 
friends. 

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Let me tell you, I do not I I 
the, I think the only sisterly 

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thing that that Lisa Barlow has 
ever done to Brittany is looking

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at Brittany and saying you do 
need Karastas, their matique 

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when they were when she was told
she had high body count hair. 

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I do not think that they are 
that close outside of that. 

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Do you think any of them are? 
Action wise I. 

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I think Heather and Whitney are 
probably friends and I think 

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cousins. 
One, what'd you say? 

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Cousins that they are cousins. 
And I think that Angie and Mary 

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are very genuine friends. 
I don't think any of the rest of

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them were that close. 
I think that they they all knew 

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each other peripherally. 
And I think that's what makes, I

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think that's what starts to make
for a really good cast on 

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Housewives is they know each 
other, but they are still 

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figuring each other out. 
I guess I don't. 

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Know, yeah, that makes sense. 
But the one that gets to their 

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campsite and I have a place like
this, like a mile from my house,

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like look, I was like this. 
I, I, I know this place. 

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I can smell this place. 
It's awful. 

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It's miserable. 
There's absolutely a school bus 

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outside of this place It. 
Is it was a rugged. 

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Yes. 
And then Mary just goes, I don't

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like it and I love. 
I'm like, OK, Hostess. 

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Did you feel for any moment once
they pulled up that like they 

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were just going to stop camping 
that at any moment they're like,

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just kidding, we're going 
somewhere else. 

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I mean, forget the fact that you
we saw the trailers and we knew 

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probably didn't happen, but did 
you think or hope for a moment 

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that maybe I. 
Maybe a cabin or something. 

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Honestly, I really didn't think 
they were going to campfire 

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dinner. 
Yes I do. 

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Are you weeping arrangements 
too? 

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Like how are they cramming them 
all in there? 

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Are they doing it like traders 
style where half of them are 

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going off to a hotel once the 
cameras stop? 

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Yeah, true. 
I don't believe they spent the 

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night there. 
I'll be real with you. 

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It was an hour away from home. 
I believe they probably either 

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like went to a Marriott that 
night or like went. 

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Like a DoubleTree? 
Yeah, yeah, I think a courtyard 

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suite. 
At least give them AJW come on. 

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One of these other tropes I 
don't love. 

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Brittany brought camcorders for 
the girls and why I think it was

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Carol did this in New York when 
they all went to Turks and 

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Caicos. 
I don't need that. 

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Like you're surrounded by 
cameras. 

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Like it's OK, babe. 
Like, like we're watching you on

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TV. 
It's OK, I. 

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Mean she was clearly trying to 
like take the narrative back 

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that like I'm the one she tried 
miserably like I'm the one who's

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known as recording people and 
it's like why did you? 

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Bring Yeah, we know. 
Yeah, that's why we hate you. 

425
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Bring up your own dirt like that
I was. 

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Like, yeah, it did. 
It did give us a good flashback 

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to Meredith going you, you need 
to go. 

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You're despicable. 
Like, because I will. 

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I love Meredith when she's 
activated and oh God it's good. 

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That angle was like you need to 
go. 

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You need to. 
Go. 

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I've had enough of you, beast. 
I love when they talked about 

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that later and Meredith goes we 
talked on the phone twice. 

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We went to dinner one time. 
You're not trying to think 

435
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about. 
How they were good friends. 

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So then we go back into Lisa not
being on the trip, and then we 

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get a conventional from Heather,
and then the women start to get 

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into some of the accusations and
lawsuits, and they're 100% gonna

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make Lisa Barlow the villain 
this season. 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
I didn't know anything about 

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these lawsuits actually. 
Like I don't follow her as 

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regularly as. 
I only do cuz I listen to the 

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Bravo docket about. 
All of them. 

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One time, so they really filled 
me in on it. 

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OK, I haven't heard that episode
of the Bravo docket. 

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I do need to go back and listen 
to that cuz like I did right 

447
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down at some point, like this 
calls for a less research Mama 

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because I love nothing more than
to like go Pete like a line by 

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line over a lawsuit. 
Like I, I'm applying to law 

450
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,520
school. 
I'm so excited about that. 

451
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,920
Like like this is like I'm 
obsessed with this stuff. 

452
00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,680
But I remember something about 
like they were suing the tequila

453
00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:06,800
brand like one 'cause they have 
like two or three different 

454
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,720
offshoots of Vita tequila and 
it's like one of them is like 

455
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,360
Jack Henry spirits or something.
I know they were in some kind of

456
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,880
litigation. 
I don't remember what for but 

457
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,600
like. 
I think it all has to do with 

458
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,880
like loans and things that John 
took out on behalf of the 

459
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,640
company and vice versa. 
And it just, it's really 

460
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,400
technical. 
If I recall, these are the same 

461
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,040
ones. 
OK, Do you, do you think that 

462
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,960
their entire life is like, and 
I, I hesitate to ask this like 

463
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,720
in this way, but like, do you 
think that most of their life is

464
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,280
like on loans? 
Because like owning A owning a 

465
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:44,320
liquor company does, unless it's
like skinny girl, you are not 

466
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,120
making that much money. 
Yeah, I'm pretty sure most 

467
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,960
everyone on the show is on 
varying degrees of loans, but 

468
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,760
that's, you know, how some 
people do it. 

469
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,040
They're just, they learn to 
juggle all that back and forth 

470
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,920
and. 
I think you're right. 

471
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:02,120
I think they are living on loans
because this isn't, you know, 

472
00:25:02,120 --> 00:25:04,680
José, José Cuervo. 
Well, I mean, it's you. 

473
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,640
Know like yeah. 
To be fair, I mean, she does 

474
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,840
have the marketing company. 
So like I, I'm not saying that 

475
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,480
they're like destitute in their 
entire life as bankrolled by 

476
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,160
credit cards. 
Like I, I don't want it to go 

477
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:22,520
out that way, but like I, they, 
the way it is shown on the show,

478
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:28,400
they have money like, and so I'm
like where I don't know, like I,

479
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,360
I hope, I hope it's not like the
entire, the wheels falling off 

480
00:25:31,360 --> 00:25:34,400
of the entire operation. 
Well, from I don't see that 

481
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,040
being the case, but. 
I think she's screaming about 

482
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,600
her money all the time too, 
which is annoying. 

483
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,920
Like it's a whole like wealth 
whispers, you know? 

484
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,840
Situation. 
Money talks, Wealth whispers. 

485
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,640
Yeah. 
Yeah, from what I tried. 

486
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,000
Though no, sorry, sorry. 
Oh God. 

487
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,600
No, I was just going to say it's
the businesses that are being 

488
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,840
sued. 
It's not her. 

489
00:25:56,480 --> 00:26:02,120
So like, OK, she probably has 
her Bravo money and whatever 

490
00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:06,680
money in her name. 
And she they might have been 

491
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,520
bankrolling the businesses a 
little too tight. 

492
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,920
You know, that might be all. 
Maybe. 

493
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,680
Yeah, yeah, maybe. 
Her Wendy's money. 

494
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,240
And she did have a a brand deal 
with Carousel Star Boutique, 

495
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,640
too. 
Yes, and her hair is great. 

496
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:25,760
I will. 
Let's if I had to say 3 nice 

497
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,280
things about Lisa Barlow, it 
would be her hair. 

498
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,080
Great. 
She's a great mom. 

499
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,000
She's a great mom and. 
She's really pretty. 

500
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,920
Yes. 
She's a hard fighter. 

501
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,760
Scott, you put into the notes, 
can this please be Elisa Barlow?

502
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,440
I mean, and it I mean it's going
to be, but I do worry that it's 

503
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,160
somehow going to like flip it 
around later and at least has to

504
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,760
somehow become the victim of it 
all. 

505
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,800
So I do want it to be just a 
full on takedown season. 

506
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,760
I think though, because we're 
seeing this with OC you, it's 

507
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,480
really a mistake to like for 
everyone to pile on one person 

508
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,120
because the audience is going to
just shift in that direction. 

509
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,120
So if they were smart when this 
is playing out, they would 

510
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:10,280
should be, you know, just like 
just here and there fighting. 

511
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,400
Not like I don't need the entire
cast to be against her, which 

512
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,200
they won't like, you know? 
The entire cast isn't against 

513
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,160
her because if you will 
remember, Heather defends Lisa a

514
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,960
little too hard. 
I know. 

515
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:31,000
It reminded me of how she 
defended Jen Shaw within an inch

516
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,800
of her life. 
I agree and then the second 

517
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,880
that, and this is I love Heather
like I gun to my head. 

518
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,000
Heather is one of my top five 
favorite housewives across all 

519
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,120
of the cities. 
This is the one thing I don't 

520
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:50,680
love about Heather is like I, I 
was listening to, I think it was

521
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,080
broad pros and they were talking
about how Heather so desperately

522
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,160
wanted to be best friends with 
Lisa in the, in the first couple

523
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,800
of seasons And, and Lisa was so 
just mean to Heather and 

524
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:08,280
Whitney, like a mean mean. 
And they, I, I think now she's 

525
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,240
like got the chance and she's 
like, I'm not messing this up. 

526
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:14,040
Like I'm going to be friends 
with Lisa and like, so I I don't

527
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,680
know. 
I think you're right. 

528
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,840
I bet that doesn't make sense. 
I still don't understand why 

529
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,480
they all need desperately to be 
friends with each other at all 

530
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,400
like. 
Well, specifically Lisa Barlow, 

531
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:25,920
we've had, we've talked. 
About this Before, like with 

532
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,440
Jen, everyone needed to be 
friends with Jen Shaw. 

533
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,880
Like, oh, I have to be her 
friend. 

534
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,040
So what's so amazing about Lisa 
Barlow, you know? 

535
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:37,720
My theory and like I'll buy this
about Lisa too because like in 

536
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,680
the first couple of reunions, 
Lisa does talk about and she 

537
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,960
talks about it on Monica 
Garcia's reunion too, where 

538
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,120
she's the reason that they 
brought the show to Utah. 

539
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,480
Like she had friends in in 
production and casting and like 

540
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,040
she's like come here and the the
theory and Emma and I have 

541
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,000
talked about this. 
The theory that I have about Jen

542
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,920
Shaw is that she was presented 
as the person this show is being

543
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,320
built around. 
And like if you if you know 

544
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,680
she's she's in a lot of 
situations she had no business 

545
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,400
being in. 
She's in a lot of scenes. 

546
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,120
Like I mean, she's in basically 
all of the scenes in the first 

547
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:14,360
season and the entire thing is 
built around her. 

548
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,960
So I'll buy that like they like 
because you know, they do this 

549
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:20,880
with every, every housewife city
where like it's, it's not 

550
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,120
housewives to begin with and 
then it becomes housewives. 

551
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,840
I'll buy that. 
It was like a a thing about 

552
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,160
businesswomen. 
And Jen Shaw was like the main 

553
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,560
businesswoman. 
And they were like, Oh no, this 

554
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,200
is housewives. 
Right, right. 

555
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,120
So Karen Huger of Utah. 
Yeah, where it's, yeah. 

556
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,440
Karen Huger was the grand Dom of
what what it was supposed to be 

557
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,200
like etiquette or something like
that. 

558
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,360
Yeah. 
So like I'll buy that that we're

559
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,160
in the same situation, but what 
else? 

560
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,160
Oh, and then like Angie and I 
didn't like this Angie. 

561
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,120
I let me just say I like Angie K
as controversial as that, as 

562
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,320
I'll like Angie K and. 
Controversial, I don't think. 

563
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,640
Yeah, how was that? 
Some people she's fan, some. 

564
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,120
People are so annoyed by her. 
Really. 

565
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,840
I mean she is a pillar of the 
community, but other than that, 

566
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,920
I mean what'd she do wrong? 
She's. 

567
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,600
A very long face. 
You know, she's like 4 foot 

568
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,240
nothing. 
We saw her in real life, and I 

569
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,400
can, Yeah. 
Yeah. 

570
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:27,360
She's in short, Yeah, Yeah. 
Yeah, but she did compare Lisa's

571
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:31,520
lawsuit stuff with the Gin Shaw 
situation, and I did not. 

572
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,000
No, I should. 
She should not have gone there. 

573
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,240
I don't understand like why even
bring up Jin Shaw's like I was 

574
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,240
like kind of like why are you 
even like bringing up Jin Shaw? 

575
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,040
Like these are two separate 
incidences, 2 separate people 

576
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,040
like incidences. 
That's not important. 

577
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,520
Where'd you find out who 
actually punched her and gave 

578
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,520
her the black eye? 
The story unravels. 

579
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,760
But. 
Just like like someone said in 

580
00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:00,120
their confessional, they were 
like the state of Utah and the 

581
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,040
United States of America are not
concerned with Lisa Barlow. 

582
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:09,680
Like don't even start. 
Meredith, the attorney did say 

583
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,600
that. 
But what I, what I will say, the

584
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:16,960
fact that they keep bringing up 
Jen and the fact that they're 

585
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,280
leaving this all and they're 
100% bringing her back when 

586
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,400
she's released from prison, 
100%. 

587
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,000
And I pray to, I pray to God 
they do. 

588
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:32,680
I would disagree with that only 
because I don't think anyone's 

589
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,240
willing to film with her. 
I don't think the network 

590
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:41,160
necessarily likes her, and I 
think you can and can't get past

591
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,680
elder fraud. 
Yes, Yeah. 

592
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,360
Like with Teresa, like, she's 
screwed herself. 

593
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,560
But like, Jin Shaw was like, 
taking money from, like, poor 

594
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:53,320
elderly people who didn't know 
any better. 

595
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,760
So. 
Karen Huger had her 4th DUI 

596
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,720
though and they picked Bravo, 
picked cameras back up to go 

597
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,120
film her being released from 
prison. 

598
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,800
I think Karen's a more 
sympathetic figure than Jin 

599
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,520
Shaw. 
There's the fact like. 

600
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,080
A lot. 
I agree. 

601
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,120
I think a lot of viewers hate 
her too. 

602
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:17,360
Like hate her. 
And also, Karen had like what, 

603
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,720
seven seasons in her before she 
went to jail? 

604
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:23,920
That's fair. 
Wrecked Theresa too, yeah. 

605
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,880
Maybe I maybe I'm just holding 
on to like, and Emma will tell 

606
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,800
you this about me, like I hold 
on to like the image of people 

607
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,920
that I think they were and like 
that I that I loved about them. 

608
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,800
Maybe, maybe Jim Shaw is just 
like just not coming back and I 

609
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,040
and maybe that's fair. 
Well, we're notoriously wrong 

610
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,040
for predicting things horribly 
so, you know, don't let that 

611
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:49,200
prediction stand. 
I would love to see her because 

612
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,960
I think it would be messy and it
would be great television. 

613
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,320
Do I think it's morally correct?
No. 

614
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,520
Fair what I what I do 
desperately want. 

615
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,000
Do you remember the episode of 
Mob Wives where they were like 

616
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,880
all getting together at the 
round table And I think it was 

617
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,480
Rita comes in and goes Karen 
stand up and like just starts 

618
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:07,720
running after her to beat her 
up. 

619
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,160
That's what I want from Jen Shaw
and Heather. 

620
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,400
Where like where Like Jen Shaw 
comes in and she's like, so who 

621
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,240
gave you the black eye? 
Heather would run so fast. 

622
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:20,880
There should be like friend. 
I mean, maybe I'm going back a 

623
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,800
friend of. 
But the $4 million necklace 

624
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:31,640
comes up and I, I was under the 
impression and like, maybe I'm 

625
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,400
an idiot, maybe I'm naive. 
I thought Bronwyn owned that 

626
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,920
necklace. 
It comes out that she lied about

627
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,480
it. 
And what, what her, her, the way

628
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,920
she presents it, she didn't mean
to lie like, oh, it's fine. 

629
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,960
She didn't mean to lie, but the 
way it came off was that she was

630
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,360
lying and I was like, OK, at 
least she's owning it because 

631
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,840
like she, I mean, she does say 
like I was going to buy another 

632
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,240
necklace. 
I didn't think the women would 

633
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,600
notice like this, that and the 
other. 

634
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,880
And like I, I appreciated that 
because it felt like she came 

635
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,600
clean about. 
I think with, sorry, I think 

636
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,600
without was saying it, she said.
I was doing, I made a rookie 

637
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,719
mistake. 
I did housewives wrong in that 

638
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,679
respect my first season and I 
was trying to like present 

639
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:18,520
something that wasn't true and, 
you know, compromised her 

640
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:19,760
integrity. 
Like the fact that she said 

641
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,520
that, I was like, Oh my gosh, 
someone actually say that Say I 

642
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,000
lied. 
It was wrong. 

643
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,719
I went against like who I am 
just to impress these women and 

644
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,320
then without saying it, but just
to impress the audience and 

645
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,120
like, you know, do housewives 
and be like this rich chick. 

646
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,480
And, you know, I love that she 
owned it. 

647
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,000
And, you know, like, just for 
anyone to admit they lied is 

648
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,360
really rare on housewives. 
So I think between her and 

649
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,600
Whitney, I was like, whoa, I 
think I'm returning to you. 

650
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,120
And be like, the honesty on this
episode. 

651
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:55,719
Astounding. 
Of Bronwyn, because I am at like

652
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,560
the end of Season 2 right now, 
so I haven't watched 3-4 or five

653
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,600
and I yeah, so she's new to me. 
And I was like, oh, look at this

654
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:09,240
woman owning her shit, calling 
herself immature, admitting that

655
00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:11,600
she did something for the 
cameras, OK. 

656
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,000
So in general, you watch this 
episode just for us. 

657
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:19,040
Yes. 
Oh wow, thank you so much. 

658
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,920
I hope we didn't have major 
spoilers for this one episode. 

659
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,320
Yes. 
And like, pretty much. 

660
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,400
It's all been spoiled for me 
anyway because I'm on Twitter 

661
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,080
too much. 
Yeah. 

662
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,920
Jeff had to get off Twitter for 
the longest time. 

663
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:34,400
He's like, why do I keep going 
on here? 

664
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,560
It was just I I can't offer my. 
Twitter in public so. 

665
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:43,800
Same for probably some more 
reasons why. 

666
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:48,120
Yeah, yeah. 
But yeah, like, I, I, I guess I 

667
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,000
don't get as much housewives 
Twitter anymore, which is good 

668
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,480
because it was just too toxic. 
So I stick to other stuff, which

669
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,240
just makes me more happy. 
Reddit, fair. 

670
00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,120
Reddit is where I get my 
housewife stuff. 

671
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,160
Well, that's that. 
Like even then I'm like, I need 

672
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:04,520
to like avoid this because it's 
just not doing me any good. 

673
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,680
I have my opinions, others have 
their other opinions. 

674
00:36:07,720 --> 00:36:10,560
I don't need to hear that. 
I'm just going to get fired up, 

675
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,120
you know, So, yeah. 
Yeah. 

676
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:19,640
We get Brittany doing her 
classic Ting Ting Ting like with

677
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,640
like the this is the reason I 
hate her. 

678
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,720
I'll tell you right now. 
This is why I hate her and she 

679
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:30,120
goes well, Jared and I got 
engaged in Emma. 

680
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:35,520
I don't know if I told you about
this, but Jared Osmond is Donnie

681
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,080
and Marie Osmond's nephew, and 
apparently in Salt Lake City, 

682
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,000
being one of The Osmonds is a 
massive, massive, massive deal. 

683
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,440
Like, God bless. 
He was so excited to be 

684
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:52,120
connected to The Osmonds and 
they got engaged and then broke 

685
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,080
up two weeks later and they're 
still dating. 

686
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,240
It's so tiresome. 
It is beyond tiresome. 

687
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,840
And it again, that's why it has 
to be her shtick, like she has 

688
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,720
to be putting this on because 
there's no way. 

689
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,400
There's no way. 
No one's actually like that, 

690
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,040
right? 
I think, I hope not. 

691
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:14,040
I think she's hopelessly devoted
to to Jared. 

692
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,920
Yeah, I think that's real. 
I guess the one, one of the few 

693
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,200
real things about Brittany is 
that she is like obsessed with 

694
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:25,040
this man and it's a really toxic
relationship and that she's not 

695
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:26,600
getting out. 
She's living her own Lifetime 

696
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,520
movie. 
That has to be the fattest 

697
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,440
fucking Dick then. 
I don't know why. 

698
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,680
Like I mean. 
I don't know, something makes me

699
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,600
think otherwise. 
I just don't see it. 

700
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,520
I never really thought about 
Osmond Dick, but I have to say. 

701
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,360
I thought it was like a 
financial thing because again 

702
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:50,400
new to Britney, hated her in 
this episode but from what I've 

703
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,200
gathered she doesn't really have
anything going for her so I 

704
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,400
thought it was like AI need 
someone who has income to be 

705
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:03,200
living with me type of thing. 
Maybe I don't, I don't know, but

706
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,000
I. 
Love these fresh takes. 

707
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,480
Like I assumed Brittany had like
Brittany was in a similar 

708
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,440
situation to Heather after her 
divorce where she was just taken

709
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,280
care of because I mean like we 
get a scene in season 5 where we

710
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,600
go to her house and she's in a 
nice, nice, nice house. 

711
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,520
So like, I just assumed that it 
was all from her accent. 

712
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,320
Maybe it is from Jared. 
I, I don't know. 

713
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,040
But like we, I assume Jared's 
probably taking care of like 5 

714
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,840
other girls too because we find 
out that he's running around the

715
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:33,840
Lifetime Cafe with other women. 
And I also love. 

716
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,800
That Whitney works out. 
At the same gym I do. 

717
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,480
I also loved Whitney for being 
like that's weird because. 

718
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,160
Yes, and she was so comfortable 
doing it too. 

719
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,040
She was like, I'm diva. 
He's in the Lifetime Cafe all 

720
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,080
the time and he's not on the 
machines. 

721
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,840
He's not looking up a sweat. 
Honey, I love it. 

722
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:03,320
I was shocked she said it like 
as if she was saying something 

723
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,240
so casual like where she went to
lunch yesterday. 

724
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:11,560
She was like oh your your ex 
fiance introduces me to his 

725
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,240
dates like. 
What? 

726
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,920
I think that's how much we 
really don't think that 

727
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,000
Brittany's serious that they're 
just like whatever like every 

728
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,480
other other women. 
They will like kind of be 

729
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,840
discreet at times with each 
other, but with Brittany 

730
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,640
non-stop, they're just like 
whatever you crazy person 

731
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,120
that's. 
Insane. 

732
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,880
I also love that Scott, you 
called out in the notes, I like 

733
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,440
you're jealous of the jealous of
the publicity and the fact that 

734
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,520
they still sell chicken salad. 
Lifetimes. 

735
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,320
Chicken salad is so good. 
Actually, it is incredible. 

736
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,640
So I, I bet that it is. 
So what the one of the companies

737
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,120
that I work for, we own luxury 
health clubs. 

738
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,240
And so there we're always 
talking about lifetime. 

739
00:39:53,240 --> 00:39:54,640
We're like, oh, lifetime this 
lifetime that. 

740
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:58,160
Like, oh, is it like lifetime? 
And we recently kind of paired 

741
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:02,040
back our Cafe so we no longer 
make things like chicken salads.

742
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,840
And so when when they started 
going on about it, I was like, 

743
00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:06,960
well, that's what's going to 
make lifetime more successful, 

744
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,760
that chicken salad. 
Incredible. 

745
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,280
It's got like a little lemony to
it. 

746
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,560
It's very good. 
See, I miss, I miss when there 

747
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,440
is quality food at the gym. 
Fair, I'll give you that. 

748
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:23,000
We get to the obligatory We're 
going to do an activity scene. 

749
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,160
Whitney, Meredith and Bron. 
I'm sorry. 

750
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:28,160
Whitney, Heather and Bronwyn go 
kayaking and then Mary, Angie, 

751
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,720
K, Meredith and Brittany go fly 
fishing. 

752
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,320
Whitney forces Bronwyn and 
Heather into the same kayak and 

753
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:39,600
I I this, I like Whitney because
she's not afraid to get messy. 

754
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,640
I like it. 
And, but like, at the same time,

755
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:46,480
I also feel like Bronwyn and 
Heather could be very, very good

756
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,160
friends. 
I think they are equally matched

757
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,680
like when it comes to 
intelligence. 

758
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,280
And I think they're both so well
spoken and I think they have 

759
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:58,360
like very deep personal trauma 
and stories that they can share,

760
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:04,840
like to benefit, like the world.
And I like them Better Together 

761
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,720
than I like them fighting, I'll 
be honest. 

762
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,760
Agreed. 
I think, I think last year we 

763
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,320
were saying that like Heather 
might have been not threatened, 

764
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,360
but like I think caught off 
guard by the fact that Bronwyn 

765
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:21,760
is similar to her and is very 
intelligent and is very good 

766
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,400
because Heather's really good in
a a verbal back and forth and 

767
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,560
Bronwyn gave it back to her. 
So I think she was like, oh, so 

768
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,440
wait, that's my role. 
What are you doing? 

769
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,640
And so I think that's OK her off
of her. 

770
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,320
But yeah, like me out of like, 
you know, the religious trauma 

771
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:44,040
and, you know, similar 
experiences and, you know, being

772
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,480
smart and witty. 
Yeah, they should be a great 

773
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:48,080
duo. 
And I, I don't, it was 

774
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,520
uncomfortable when they weren't,
like when everything Heather 

775
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,280
went over to Bronwyn's house and
they just had that very awkward,

776
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,520
awkward encounter and then being
disinvited from the trip. 

777
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,560
And there was just, yeah, I 
didn't like that. 

778
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,320
So I like that they were forced 
to hang out and be in that 

779
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,680
kayak. 
And I'll give Bronwyn the like 

780
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,560
because I do buy that like, 
Heather likes to be in charge. 

781
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,920
I don't love the way she 
presented it where she's like, 

782
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,760
oh, it it turns out all you have
to do is take a back seat and 

783
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:20,360
like, do whatever. 
I didn't love that. 

784
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,360
But like, I do think it was 
fair. 

785
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,200
Yes. 
I, I do think Heather has a 

786
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,640
control thing, but also I think 
she has confidence issues to the

787
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,920
point where maybe she's 
concerned that she'll literally 

788
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,360
be booted from the show. 
That's OK, That's fair. 

789
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,880
And this is me. 
I mean, obviously there's a lot 

790
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,600
of contacts I'm missing, but 
from watching what I've watched 

791
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,000
of her early on and now watching
this, that's just kind of the 

792
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,640
vibe I get. 
I love Heather so much and I I 

793
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,640
feel like the person who doesn't
understand how much Heather has 

794
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:58,800
to offer is Heather. 
Yes, yes, yes. 

795
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:00,840
She's always been that. 
So I read Heather's book. 

796
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,960
I did too read both of them. 
No, I've only read the first. 

797
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:08,880
One I read both of them. 
I forgot about the second one, 

798
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,360
but she really talks about like,
yeah, she is very much, you 

799
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,520
know, I want to be liked. 
I want to be, you know, chosen. 

800
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:19,440
And, you know, it comes from 
her, you know, family and being 

801
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,000
in the church and all that. 
So, yeah, you're right. 

802
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,280
Like he doesn't know how great 
she is. 

803
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:30,200
And I think she got a lot of, 
she got a lot of attention and 

804
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:31,480
she was like kind of the 
breakout star. 

805
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:35,040
And she's really since season 1 
become like the narrator of the 

806
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:36,840
show. 
And I think she took a little 

807
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:40,480
bit too far and then she people 
like flipped on her, the 

808
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,840
audience and she wasn't as 
likeable in certain seasons, 

809
00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,040
3:00 and 4:00. 
So I think she's bounced back a 

810
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,800
bit and five and now and six so 
far, it's on one episode. 

811
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:55,600
So I like where she's going 
because I did not like Heather 

812
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,560
after the whole Monica stuff. 
I was like Nope. 

813
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,520
Nope, I was fine with the Monica
thing. 

814
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,200
I had a hard time in season 3 
with her where it was. 

815
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,280
I'm Ryder Divergent Shaw. 
I'm not talking about this black

816
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,360
eye. 
I'm not like I I struggled a lot

817
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:14,440
with that because I was like, 
you were so much better than 

818
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,840
this. 
Like pull it. 

819
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,320
Together and changing the story 
so many times and like getting 

820
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,280
like potentially getting someone
in on production in trouble by 

821
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,080
like blaming it like it was just
like it was bad. 

822
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,200
It was bad. 
I can totally see that. 

823
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,840
I just got the vibe. 
Do you remember when we were at 

824
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,920
our nine to five how I just 
constantly, every day felt like 

825
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:38,680
I was gonna get fired no matter 
how good a job I was doing? 

826
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,360
The imposter center on thing, 
yes. 

827
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,680
That's kind of what I get from 
her. 

828
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,800
I can see some of that, yeah. 
100%, yeah. 

829
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,440
Now that you say that out loud, 
100% yes it's the same thing. 

830
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,880
And she was a big Housewives 
fan. 

831
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,960
So like the Beyond Housewives, I
think she's kind of like, whoa, 

832
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:58,720
what am I doing here? 
Like, I love it here, but like, 

833
00:44:58,720 --> 00:45:00,760
what am I doing here? 
OK, you know? 

834
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:09,320
That's fair yes, Meredith. 
So we we get the the scene and 

835
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:13,040
then we get to Meredith and she 
looks so incredible in her 

836
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,720
little fishing outfit with like 
the the like little toboggan hat

837
00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:17,520
and everything. 
I think. 

838
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,960
Oh. 
Yeah, I saw your note there and 

839
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,000
I was like, wow. 
And I, we rewound it because I 

840
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,200
was like, let me have a look at 
this. 

841
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,800
So we paused it for like a 
minute and then I was like, it's

842
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:30,480
just a ski outfit. 
I think listen to me very 

843
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:33,440
carefully. 
I think Meredith like could wear

844
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,280
like a flannel shirt and jeans 
and look like there's just 

845
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,560
something about Meredith where 
like she is a canvas that an 

846
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,880
artist paints on. 
I think she looks incredible no 

847
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:46,040
matter what. 
I'm upset. 

848
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:49,640
I worship the ground. 
She has had some fairly basic 

849
00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,640
confessional looks even in this 
episode. 

850
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,800
One of them was very plain and 
she still rocks it. 

851
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:57,240
That color blue on her and her 
confessional was so. 

852
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,960
Are you? 
It reminded me a lot of one of 

853
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,000
Lisa Barlow's very, very early 
confessional looks. 

854
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,400
And I was like, oh, you're doing
this right. 

855
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,120
This is what it's supposed to 
look like. 

856
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,760
You're. 
Talking about, yeah. 

857
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,880
And cracking up, talking about 
how long until we catch a fish. 

858
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,280
No, just give me an estimate to 
the point where the guy was 

859
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,040
like, there's a reason we call 
it fishing and not catching. 

860
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:25,680
And she was like, OK, but like. 
But like how long? 

861
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,160
How long? 
So you had that and then you had

862
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,920
Mary going, well, you could just
bring the fish back to life with

863
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:35,360
CPR, right? 
Like Mary? 

864
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,080
What? 
What's that? 

865
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,720
I think she was talking about 
catch and release but she didn't

866
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:44,280
know like right? 
How it works I don't know. 

867
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,560
I don't know, nothing I could 
assume either is that she was 

868
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,160
like, oh, you can just throw it 
back in. 

869
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:51,280
It's like, well, not if you've 
already killed it. 

870
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:52,960
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

871
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,560
Like it was like she thought the
fish already died if you had it 

872
00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,120
on a hook and you had to like 
resuscitate it to throw it back 

873
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,960
like. 
And then the fact that she's 

874
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:04,200
like, well, he's just wrong, 
Gusty. 

875
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,360
She does that with a few things.
It was like, it's this. 

876
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,120
And then it was like, what was 
the like? 

877
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,840
If you drink carbonated water, 
it hurts your ovaries. 

878
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,600
Like there are just certain 
things that Mary. 

879
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,000
Mary is the Lord and she 
believes Look. 

880
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,800
It up it's. 
True. 

881
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Don't you dare. 
Google it professional and be 

882
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:28,480
like they are so wrong. 
Can you believe they said that? 

883
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:31,400
Can you believe these fishermen 
were trying to tell me about 

884
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,080
fish? 
You don't know, Gusty. 

885
00:47:34,240 --> 00:47:39,360
You don't know. 
Gusty, I love her so much. 

886
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,640
Also couldn't figure out his 
name and just gave up. 

887
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,440
I loved that. 
Gusty. 

888
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,400
Gusty could probably tell you 
about that. 

889
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:53,720
After he said Gusty 16 times. 
At least you just call him 

890
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:56,440
Bussy. 
Not Bussy. 

891
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,080
The women all end up going out 
for a campfire and we find out 

892
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,560
that Angie K was the worst food 
planner on God's green earth. 

893
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:11,160
And Mary doesn't eat campfire 
food, apparently, because, like,

894
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:15,120
she doesn't like skewered things
and there were no hot dog buns. 

895
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,720
Or catch up or. 
Catch up for anything. 

896
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:21,160
And it was like every question 
they asked Angie K, her eyes 

897
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,480
just got bigger and bigger and 
bigger. 

898
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,920
And she was like, oh. 
You'd think Camping World or 

899
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:29,200
Campers World would have loaded 
that thing up with food for 

900
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,000
them. 
You would think, you would think

901
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,320
production would have gone to 
like Meyer or like where I don't

902
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,320
know, I don't know what their 
stores are out there. 

903
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:39,240
But like you would, you would 
think that they went to Kroger 

904
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:43,000
with them and say, hey, like 
Angie, maybe pick up some hot 

905
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,320
dog bonds or something like. 
They're like, no, let's let this

906
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,920
play out. 
Yeah, let's actually make Angie 

907
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,040
go to the grocery store. 
Like, what did they even need 

908
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:58,160
sliced bread for? 
That's my question. 

909
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,480
Where did the bagels come into 
play? 

910
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,840
It's all. 
Maybe the bagels are like for 

911
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,640
the morning and Mary's like I 
would have eaten the bagel. 

912
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,520
I love bread. 
So I would have like oh have a 

913
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,280
snack and bagel. 
These women don't eat bread. 

914
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,680
Mary did. 
Mary did. 

915
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,400
That's fair. 
But they were also eating the 

916
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,960
hot dogs like right off of the 
metal thing because they didn't 

917
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,880
have any fun to the soul. 
Did they not have ketchup like I

918
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,040
was so. 
Amazing, we have. 

919
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:28,800
Ketchup. 
And you said that, she said. 

920
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:31,160
Oops. 
Like just eat your hot dog and 

921
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,400
be happy. 
She said. 

922
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,280
You're all so entitled to food, 
Yeah. 

923
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,560
Scott, you put a note in here 
about Heather in the campfire 

924
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,800
lore. 
Oh my God, my. 

925
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,680
Swordsen was a real person. 
Yeah, but still, I just don't 

926
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:50,040
need Heather Gay doing like 
another like, did you know this 

927
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:54,200
Mormonism folklore tale like, 
and it just, I of course, if 

928
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:56,880
anyone was going to do it was to
be Heather Gay just being like 

929
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,080
just so performative and just so
like Mormon trivia. 

930
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,080
I'm like OK. 
I love that the Bron was like, 

931
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,560
Yep, I know. 
And I'm like, see you guys are 

932
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:11,320
so aligned. 
I would have loved a ghost story

933
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:14,360
that didn't have to be Mormon, 
You know what I mean? 

934
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,960
Like have a little campfire 
quarry that's not religious. 

935
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,480
I don't know. 
I would argue about the. 

936
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:27,400
Retaining. 
Oh, it just, Yeah. 

937
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,840
That that gross story about 
training women. 

938
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,280
Yeah. 
Yeah, it's like, if you like are

939
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,640
like out there and kissing boys 
or whatever, she's going to come

940
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,760
and take you away. 
What about the men? 

941
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,320
What about the men who are like?
I will tell you that is I didn't

942
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,880
see it through that lens, but 
like my religious trauma 

943
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:48,160
probably doesn't allow me to so.
It seemed like one stop away 

944
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,240
from like, you know, a truck 
stop hooker story is what it 

945
00:50:51,240 --> 00:50:52,440
sounded like. 
Truck Stop. 

946
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,520
I don't know, it just seemed 
like that was the whole 

947
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,760
insinuation behind it, which I 
just didn't enjoy. 

948
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,280
Yeah, it was weird. 
It was a weird. 

949
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,080
Truck Stop, Hooker. 
Not true crime. 

950
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:09,160
But it was. 
No, it was a folklore. 

951
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,080
He just said that she's a real, 
real person. 

952
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,120
Yeah. 
There's Molly Sorenson was 

953
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,880
absolutely a real person. 
I googled it. 

954
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Like Lizzie Borden. 
Lizzie Borden, who like killed 

955
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,800
her parents. 
Took a axe, took 30 wacks. 

956
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,160
That whole weird. 
You don't know We're only ones, 

957
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:29,640
OK? 
You need to dive into that old 

958
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,760
campfire. 
Mama, let's research Lizzie 

959
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,240
Borden, I guess. 
Yeah, she was a real person, but

960
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:38,320
now they're saying she like, 
haunts the ravine. 

961
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,760
OK, OK. 
Yeah, she was in. 

962
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,600
The school bus. 
I didn't know anything about 

963
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:49,200
Lizzie Borden. 
I mean, I do like, it's OK. 

964
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:53,400
It's not that great. 
I do love random creepy 

965
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,320
situation. 
So the like huddling up and 

966
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,440
like, OK, guys, let's go down 
these train tracks. 

967
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,040
Like, I, I don't know, I thought
that was kind of funny. 

968
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,200
If you like it, I love it. 
The entire time I was doing that

969
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,800
I was like, I don't need the 
kitschy Blair Witch found 

970
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,280
footage thing. 
I didn't need it. 

971
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,520
But if you like it, I love it. 
I thought it was great use of 

972
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,800
those camcorders they didn't 
need, Yeah. 

973
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,920
Right if we're. 
Going to have them at least use 

974
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:20,520
them for something good. 
Production lean. 

975
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,920
Thank God. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

976
00:52:25,240 --> 00:52:27,960
Everyone kind of gangs up on 
Baby Gorgeous at the campfire 

977
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:34,960
again and we get like 5 seconds 
of that and then Brittany goes, 

978
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,240
Whitney, I was really offended 
by what you said that I do for 

979
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:41,280
money. 
And I was like, shut up, this is

980
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,440
not for you. 
You've had enough time in this 

981
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,440
episode. 
Well, and so are the other 

982
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,040
women. 
They were all very much like we 

983
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,240
don't need. 
This is not the time for this, 

984
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:51,000
Brittany. 
Yeah, it's like Whitney's like 

985
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:54,200
having a real moment and being 
honest and, you know, saying my 

986
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:57,400
business failed, I lost a shit 
ton of money. 

987
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,040
You know, I feel horrible about 
it. 

988
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,760
I had to fire people. 
And, you know, it doesn't, 

989
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:04,080
again, doesn't happen on 
Housewives. 

990
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:06,720
Like just that honesty. 
And in the middle of all this 

991
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,200
and Brittany's like, well, yeah,
but back to me. 

992
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:13,760
But this isn't the first time 
she's done that. 

993
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,560
She did that in part of where? 
Where did they? 

994
00:53:17,720 --> 00:53:19,160
Was it part of Aorta that they 
went to? 

995
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:20,920
Yeah. 
Puerto Vallarta when they were 

996
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,920
down there and she was like, you
guys, what about me? 

997
00:53:25,120 --> 00:53:27,080
I feel so left out. 
Shut up. 

998
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,240
I think I sent that to you, 
Emma. 

999
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:30,960
Where? 
Like she like that scene. 

1000
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:35,680
Britney was like, you guys, 
you're not supporting me. 

1001
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,160
I had some really great news 
about my daughter. 

1002
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:41,000
Shut up. 
Well, that right. 

1003
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,280
And then at the Audrey Hepburn 
party, she's like you guys. 

1004
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,280
Like she stood up and was like. 
That's where it was. 

1005
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:47,960
Yes, that's where it was. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1006
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,200
Brittany and the problem that I 
have with Brittany, I'm glad, 

1007
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,360
sorry. 
I just, I I couldn't believe her

1008
00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,360
timing because I understand the 
conversation they were talking 

1009
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:08,080
about where Whitney said you 
suck Dick for money and then 

1010
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:11,880
Brittany said you started in 
MLM. 

1011
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:18,000
I get that she's like conflating
that, but for her to see this 

1012
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:23,040
woman crying about her husband 
being fully invested and having 

1013
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,480
to fire 30 people and then being
like, well, I would still like 

1014
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,640
an apology. 
It's. 

1015
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:32,880
Comedically bad is what it is 
like the timing is so 

1016
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:40,080
comedically bad on and then we 
do get into and this is I really

1017
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,360
appreciate this about Whitney 
because something I will give 

1018
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:46,600
Whitney she the the healing 
journey I could have done 

1019
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:49,720
without. 
But like she's very, very honest

1020
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:52,600
and real about like everything 
she goes through. 

1021
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:57,200
And I don't think we're getting 
an act with with Whitney. 

1022
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:59,320
I think it's all real and I do 
appreciate that. 

1023
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,120
Yeah, no, I. 
Agree with that I agree, yes. 

1024
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:08,480
I like her, like in general I I 
think she has no filter and I 

1025
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,800
think she's just like saying 
what's on the top of her mind. 

1026
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,720
Wait until season 3 or 4 and 
tell me how much you like her. 

1027
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:22,080
But when it's all about the 
healing journey, like it's a 

1028
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:27,640
little like when it revolves 
around like I'm, I'm unpacking 

1029
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,880
all the trauma, like I, I won't 
take that away from her because 

1030
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:33,160
I think that's very real when 
she makes every situation about 

1031
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,600
that. 
That's what I struggled with. 

1032
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:38,200
Yeah, she definitely went a 
little overboard with it and and

1033
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,040
just kept on, like when she 
tried to conflate whether she 

1034
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,800
was drunk or not, you know, 
being used in Heather's book, 

1035
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,320
that was kind of like, what are 
you talking about? 

1036
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:48,360
Like you've been trying to have 
a story. 

1037
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,360
Yeah. 
Fake outrage. 

1038
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:54,360
Fake. 
Outrage, but yeah. 

1039
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,800
But I do. 
I Whitney came back for me. 

1040
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:58,720
She came back for me last season
and I'll take it. 

1041
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,240
What else? 
Did you like her red hair? 

1042
00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:07,600
No. 
I love her as a blonde. 

1043
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:08,880
She's. 
So I do like her as a. 

1044
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,640
Blonde more for sure. 
Yeah, Yeah, I didn't. 

1045
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:15,880
Oh. 
Go ahead, she's gorgeous and can

1046
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,760
do whatever but like the blonde 
suits her better. 

1047
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:23,600
I have said on our podcast 
probably 50,000 times that her 

1048
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:26,400
face should be plastered 
everywhere. 

1049
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,960
Her face should be studied. 
Stunning. 

1050
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,840
She is beautiful and her skin is
always like glass. 

1051
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:37,560
Well, love her. 
She has made some. 

1052
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,840
An event at a drag event once, 
she was fantastic. 

1053
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,120
Really. 
Was she really? 

1054
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:44,760
Not perfect in person. 
Oh yeah. 

1055
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,640
It's just, it's, it was just 
like off putting how pretty she 

1056
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:48,440
was. 
I was. 

1057
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,240
I. 
Believe that? 

1058
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,360
Yeah. 
And this is one thing I also 

1059
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,400
believe about Whitney is you 
know how a lot of like women, 

1060
00:56:57,960 --> 00:57:00,320
you and I have known people like
this before where like they 

1061
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,080
collect gay people as friends 
and it's like, I have gay 

1062
00:57:03,080 --> 00:57:06,520
friends. 
I wholeheartedly believe Whitney

1063
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:09,400
is like, no, no, no, I'm, I'm an
ally to the community and I 

1064
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,360
really do love gay men. 
I that's something I really 

1065
00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,080
appreciate about. 
Yeah. 

1066
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,440
No, I would. 
I would, it's not like, oh, I 

1067
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,240
have to have a gay. 
It's like, no, these are 

1068
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:21,640
actually real people and they 
are my friends and not my 

1069
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:24,440
accessories, so. 
Yes, yes. 

1070
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,920
But they might also be my glam, 
OK. 

1071
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Maybe, but like I, I would love 
to be Whitney's glam, I'll tell 

1072
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,160
you that, right? 
I would love to be Meredith's 

1073
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,120
glam, I'll tell you that, right?
And maybe even maybe gorgeous as

1074
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:36,720
glam. 
Well, that. 

1075
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,680
'D be a full time job for sure. 
Oh 100% because $60,000 a year 

1076
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,920
on glam. 
Yes. 

1077
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,040
Just on glam. 
Just on glam, she. 

1078
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:48,720
Doesn't go anywhere without her.
I go to see I have glam and 

1079
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:50,440
Sandra pay. 
I have glam everywhere. 

1080
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:54,280
Oh my God, I love her so much. 
I have a cop somewhere that says

1081
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,320
that like I got something from 
Bravo that was like, I have glam

1082
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,440
everywhere I go. 
Anyway. 

1083
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,600
I did appreciate Winnie being 
vulnerable. 

1084
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:09,040
I also appreciated her pushing 
Brittany away, saying I don't 

1085
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,240
want you. 
I'm not ready for a hug right 

1086
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:16,160
now. 
And then and then you guys put 

1087
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,640
in a saying, what did Meredith 
do this episode besides come for

1088
00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:22,160
Brittany? 
Yeah, what did Meredith really 

1089
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,560
do like? 
So she's very non present in 

1090
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,080
this episode. 
I don't need her to do anything 

1091
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,800
besides come for for Brittany, 
but. 

1092
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,520
It was like that one moment 
coming for Brittany and that was

1093
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,360
really about it. 
She's going to get along with 

1094
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,400
everybody for the most part. 
And she defended Lisa. 

1095
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,600
You know by saying every 
business takes I'm alone. 

1096
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:50,520
It makes me wonder if she's 
going to have anything major 

1097
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,040
storyline wise this season or if
she's be kind of another 

1098
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,160
participant instead of. 
I'm sure she I would hope she 

1099
00:58:58,160 --> 00:58:59,720
does. 
I was going to say I'm sure she 

1100
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:02,640
will. 
I hope she does because last 

1101
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,720
year was kind of a similar thing
where she didn't have a lot 

1102
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,960
going on right like she had she 
had her bar mitzvah. 

1103
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,280
And now she has all the DJ money
rolling in. 

1104
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,400
So you know I have a DJ. 
I hope that they talk about her 

1105
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,000
being a DJ. 
Well, they have to. 

1106
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,600
They absolutely have. 
They should have given her a set

1107
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:23,560
out in the woods. 
That would have been a great 

1108
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:27,440
premiere. 
They should have let her have 

1109
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,880
the like do the new like theme 
music because you know who is 

1110
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,160
it? 
It's not in my Miami. 

1111
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:37,520
That's. 
Adriana. 

1112
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:39,360
Adriana, yeah, that's, that's 
her scene. 

1113
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,400
Like, that's her Miami song. 
Do you actually think that 

1114
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,760
Meredith Marks is mixing 
anything? 

1115
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,560
Because I believe she has 
someone doing that for her. 

1116
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:52,400
And she is going up there and 
pressing play and shaking our 

1117
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,880
little titties. 
And I love it. 

1118
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,480
And I'll watch every little 
video that I can find. 

1119
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:02,120
It's a lot of jumping and I'm 
like, good on her. 

1120
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,840
That's some. 
You know, good exercise 'cause 

1121
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,160
it's just like jumping jumping. 
She's got Guardia water. 

1122
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,960
Yeah, her two turntables in a 
microphone. 

1123
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,000
She's actually listening. 
To anything in the headphones. 

1124
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:16,320
She's. 
Talking probably exactly what's 

1125
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,880
coming out of the speakers, just
a lot lower volume. 

1126
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:21,720
Just I love it. 
It's like this is a little too 

1127
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:23,360
loud. 
Brooke's putting it. 

1128
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,880
Down. 
And noise cancelling and she has

1129
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,440
it playing really soft. 
Actually, Enya and the 

1130
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:33,320
headphones. 
Not Enya. 

1131
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:38,120
She's sailing away. 
Sail away, Sail away. 

1132
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,200
Oh Lord, so the women end up 
going. 

1133
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,200
On Meredith doesn't have to do 
anything this season. 

1134
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:44,880
She just needs to be Meredith. 
I got you. 

1135
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:47,280
I'm with you. 
That's all I need her to be and 

1136
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:48,920
here's the oddest to God's 
truth. 

1137
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:51,280
That's all I need any of the 
women to be is themselves. 

1138
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,080
Like it's they are all fairly 
entertaining. 

1139
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,800
And even Brittany, like if she 
just sits there and it's pretty 

1140
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,120
like I can handle that too, 
because I think she's one of the

1141
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,040
most beautiful men in the world.
That's what I hate about her 

1142
01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:05,640
because I'm just like, like I 
wish I didn't like this about 

1143
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,280
you because I don't want to like
anything about you. 

1144
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,600
But. 
I did just remember one more 

1145
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,160
Meredith moment this episode and
it was so funny because she 

1146
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,320
literally almost said nothing 
the whole episode. 

1147
01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,040
But she did find a way to plug 
her caviar. 

1148
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,640
She said. 
I know nothing about fish except

1149
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,840
for that's where I get my. 
Cavity guys. 

1150
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:31,280
I forgot about that, yes. 
And I wish I liked fish because 

1151
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,040
like, I would, I wish I could 
eat Meredith's caviar like. 

1152
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:35,880
I wish I ate fish. 
They'll have caviar. 

1153
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,920
It doesn't taste like fish, it 
tastes like nothing. 

1154
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,040
Yeah, perfect. 
I I never hired caviar. 

1155
01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:43,920
Yeah. 
Tastes like butter, kind of 

1156
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,640
like. 
Oh, perfect, I. 

1157
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:48,560
Haven't had caviar in a very 
long time, but yeah, that seems 

1158
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:49,880
to be what I recall. 
Butter. 

1159
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,440
Yeah, gorgeous. 
We, we support we. 

1160
01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,120
Support lots of Gorga and all 
her cookie endeavors, but we 

1161
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,360
haven't gotten with the 
Meredith's Meredith's caviar 

1162
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,400
yet. 
Are Melissa's cookies good? 

1163
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,200
Yeah, yes, the cake is. 
I love the cake. 

1164
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,760
The coffee cake. 
It's it's very good. 

1165
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:09,840
We've had two so far. 
The cookies are, you know what 

1166
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,160
you'd expect? 
Kind of, but they're very, we 

1167
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,640
keep saying it, moist. 
They're very moist cookies. 

1168
01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:16,640
And you don't. 
Do you not like the word moist? 

1169
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,320
Well, no, but. 
I feel like the Internet 

1170
01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:19,040
doesn't. 
Yeah, we. 

1171
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,600
Hi Internet, the word moist is 
dusty. 

1172
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:24,040
Approved. 
I hope you're OK with that. 

1173
01:02:26,080 --> 01:02:28,240
But yeah, the the coffee cake's 
delicious, yes. 

1174
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,360
Beautiful. 
Have you have you bought any of 

1175
01:02:32,360 --> 01:02:34,720
the housewives merch? 
Do you have a anything that? 

1176
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,680
Emma will tell you that I single
handedly, like, am the sole 

1177
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,080
supporter of the Skinny Girl 
brands in the state of Indiana. 

1178
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,160
Yeah, I forgot about Skinny 
Girl. 

1179
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:49,480
I was about to be like, no, not 
really, except for like 60 

1180
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:50,680
bottles of Skinny Girl. 
That's true. 

1181
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,400
That's really like, that's all 
I've really bought. 

1182
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,200
I I bought some. 
What did I buy from Countess 

1183
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:03,920
Louie? 
I like I stream her songs on 

1184
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:10,040
Apple Music because I I'm trash 
but you're sheets because money 

1185
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:14,080
can't buy you class. 
So we have 3 sheets. 

1186
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:18,040
We have three sets of Porsche's 
sheets. 

1187
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:22,200
Try saying that three times. 
I didn't know Porsche had 

1188
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:24,080
cheese. 
She has, yeah. 

1189
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:25,560
Pampered by Porsche. 
They're. 

1190
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,400
Really good sheets they're. 
Amazing. 

1191
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:29,480
Yeah, I'll Google that right 
now. 

1192
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,080
Pampered by Porsche, Yeah. 
The only other thing we thought 

1193
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:36,640
I thought of getting Jeff like a
three Wick candle for Christmas,

1194
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:38,400
but they were they were really 
expensive. 

1195
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,000
I'm like I'm at 80 bucks for a 
joke is not funny to me. 

1196
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,200
Yeah. 
Is it from Karen or from Wendy? 

1197
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,800
I wanted to get one of each just
to make the the joke work. 

1198
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:49,200
So it could burn them both and 
be like the. 

1199
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:52,680
Seppos are still on the market 
because I was looking into that.

1200
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:57,160
Actually, yeah. 
And I don't know that they still

1201
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,720
sell them. 
I don't know that they were ever

1202
01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:04,400
on the market. 
Yeah, I think that was a 

1203
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,480
storyline could be right. 
These things are not that 

1204
01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:11,360
expensive. 
No, they're not. 

1205
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:13,120
There's a good there. 
Yeah, a good price. 

1206
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:15,960
Oh, and I can buy them on 
Amazon, which means my papaw is 

1207
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:20,360
going to pay for it because my 
my Amazon is charged to his 

1208
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:24,560
credit cards anyway. 
What a day. 

1209
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:28,480
What, so you're a Papa? 
Yeah, my Papa. 

1210
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,000
My. 
Grandpa. 

1211
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,040
Yeah, OK, that's cute. 
It's it's really cute. 

1212
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:38,240
It's from Kentucky. 
Anyway, sorry, like sorry to be 

1213
01:04:38,880 --> 01:04:42,440
the women go on a ghost hunt. 
Bronwyn was wearing a Gucci 

1214
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,440
beanie and the logo looks like 
the nasty pig logo. 

1215
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,640
I didn't see it until you wrote 
it and the notes, and then I was

1216
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,320
like, oh, I see it. 
Because I saw it earlier and 

1217
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:53,600
thought that's a really weird 
logo. 

1218
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,200
But then when you see it kind of
in the grainy video, I was 

1219
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:59,440
totally like, oh, 100% see what 
he's what he sees. 

1220
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,520
I feel like a problem with 
supporting nasty pigs, so I 

1221
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,600
think that's OK. 1000% she'd be 
like Oh yeah it's art. 

1222
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:13,000
And then they go on there like 
found footage, ghost hunt. 

1223
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:15,440
I think Meredith falls or 
something. 

1224
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,080
I hope she's OK. 
I'll kill myself if she's not. 

1225
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:21,640
And then we get a sneak peek at 
the rest of the season. 

1226
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,040
I get. 
So like I didn't, I guess I 

1227
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,120
didn't clock it, but Whitney at 
one point said that they go on 

1228
01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,560
three trips this year. 
So they go to Greece, they went 

1229
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,880
on the RV trip and then there's 
like a below Deck crossover for 

1230
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,640
Down Under. 
So at some point they go to 

1231
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:43,760
Australia and I'm so excited. 
I'm also what I will say I I 

1232
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,440
never need to hear another word 
about Angie Castaneda's being 

1233
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,480
Greek. 
But like, I'm so excited that 

1234
01:05:48,480 --> 01:05:50,600
she gets to go to Greece. 
Like I love that for her. 

1235
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,880
Like if she if they didn't, I'd 
be like, girl, like you're 

1236
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,720
missed, missed opportunity. 
Like you talk so much about it. 

1237
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:59,560
Like that is the girls trip. 
I'm so glad they're doing that. 

1238
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,440
And Greece has been beautiful. 
So right. 

1239
01:06:03,560 --> 01:06:06,240
And then on the other side of 
like me being super excited 

1240
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:12,280
about like everything that's to 
come, it does see like it does 

1241
01:06:12,280 --> 01:06:14,360
look like we get a little bit 
more about Robert Junior's 

1242
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,600
journey. 
This is in light of like he 

1243
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,360
literally just got arrested last
week. 

1244
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:25,240
So like, that's wild. 
But like, I, I'm like, I want 

1245
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,760
him to be OK number one. 
But like, I'm so excited for 

1246
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,200
this season. 
Like my show is back. 

1247
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:35,320
I'm so happy all. 
Right, like there's I think I'm 

1248
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:37,960
Salt Lake. 
They all perform well. 

1249
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,800
Like there's never a filler 
episode. 

1250
01:06:39,840 --> 01:06:45,480
It's just like really good 
intense camp and drama and fun 

1251
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,440
and and. 
The right balance of it all. 

1252
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:50,680
It's not like it's not getting 
dark like the other shows are 

1253
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,520
getting where it's, you know, 
being accused of drugging each 

1254
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:55,080
other, things like that. 
Right. 

1255
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:58,320
Just sucking Dick for Utah Jazz 
tickets. 

1256
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,400
But yeah. 
Oh, and then I didn't realize 

1257
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:07,080
Jeff wrote this in here, but 
like, he you wrote that like, 

1258
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,200
this is similar to Lisa's Bezos 
party where it's all like 

1259
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,160
contained and it's like a 
capsule episode. 

1260
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:16,000
So I I I agree. 
I think so smart of like, let's 

1261
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,120
put them all together because 
usually like the first episode 

1262
01:07:19,120 --> 01:07:21,240
of the season is like, let's see
what everyone's doing, been 

1263
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:23,800
doing since we last saw them. 
And I'm like, I don't need that.

1264
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:28,560
Let's all be together on a cash 
trap and chaos will ensue. 

1265
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,280
And that's the entire episode. 
Like that's I think they 

1266
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:35,720
originated that I don't I 
haven't seen like every single 

1267
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:39,440
first season episode of every 
show, but I think like that's 

1268
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:48,160
pretty smart and and Salt Lake. 
100% So based on this episode 

1269
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,280
and this episode alone, if you 
had to be friends with any of 

1270
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:54,000
the women from Salt Lake City, 
who would it be? 

1271
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,600
One person or. 
Just just any, any, or any of 

1272
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,280
the women. 
Or if you had to pick multiple, 

1273
01:08:00,280 --> 01:08:03,920
that's fine too. 
I'd say Bronwyn. 

1274
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:07,000
I'd say Bronwyn, yeah, or Angie 
Primary. 

1275
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:08,080
Angie, Those are like my 
thoughts. 

1276
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,360
OK, I'd say Bronwyn, probably 
followed by Whitney. 

1277
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,280
I like what you do. 
I like so you part of you wants 

1278
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,359
to say Mary, right? 
You're like, oh, I'd hang out 

1279
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:21,160
with Mary, but you would be so 
goddamn confused the entire time

1280
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,600
you're hanging out with her. 
You'd be like wait is. 

1281
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:24,640
This Emma does not want to say 
Mary. 

1282
01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:28,600
I don't get her. 
Yeah, I don't, especially in 

1283
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,040
Season 2. 
I don't either. 

1284
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,680
It's off the rails. 
In Season 1, she left a bad 

1285
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:36,920
taste in my mouth and now I'm 
like through season 2 basically.

1286
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:41,319
I'm like almost to the reunion 
and I'm like, wow, we just don't

1287
01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:44,520
click. 
I don't know. 

1288
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,800
Something really changes with 
her when she decides to actually

1289
01:08:47,800 --> 01:08:50,520
participate on the show. 
Like I don't know what they 

1290
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:53,319
explained to her, how much of A 
raise they gave her, but once 

1291
01:08:53,319 --> 01:08:56,399
she starts really actually being
present, she's amazing. 

1292
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:58,960
But those years where she's just
like, would rather be doing 

1293
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:00,720
anything else, it was awful to 
watch. 

1294
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,520
It's awkward. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1295
01:09:05,479 --> 01:09:08,279
I'm gonna give you my answer in 
a second, but like, if you like,

1296
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:11,680
if you look back and Emma, like,
do you, do you remember a couple

1297
01:09:11,680 --> 01:09:15,800
of the episodes where Mary's in 
her kitchen and then Robert 

1298
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,600
Junior comes home after being 
gone for like 2 days and she's 

1299
01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,399
like, where were you? 
Like, why didn't you answer your

1300
01:09:20,399 --> 01:09:22,760
phone? 
I promise. 

1301
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:26,399
In Season 4 that is was it? 
Is he season 4 or five? 

1302
01:09:26,399 --> 01:09:29,200
That is going to make sense. 
And I think that'll put into 

1303
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:34,080
context why she was not present.
Oh. 

1304
01:09:34,200 --> 01:09:35,040
Yeah, I never even. 
Really. 

1305
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,040
Thought I never thought about 
that. 

1306
01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:39,880
Because I was, I was about to 
say, being a good mom. 

1307
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:43,640
Controversial hot take here. 
Being a good mom is not enough 

1308
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,800
to make me like you on reality 
television. 

1309
01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,840
There are lots of good mothers 
out there. 

1310
01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:53,120
Give myself. 
I, I don't, I get, I get where 

1311
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:56,200
you struggle with Mary 100%. 
I just, I, there's something 

1312
01:09:56,200 --> 01:10:00,080
about her that I really like and
I don't know what it, I can't 

1313
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,800
quite put my finger. 
I I think she's just out of her 

1314
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:04,200
mind. 
I think that's what I like about

1315
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,800
her. 
Yeah. 

1316
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,320
But Emma, who? 
Who would you want to be friends

1317
01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,160
with? 
Probably Heather or Meredith. 

1318
01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,440
They were pretty quiet, but 
Meredith really had me on the 

1319
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:18,800
floor. 
It was clearly her first time 

1320
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:23,040
fishing, that was. 
Absolutely what I. 

1321
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:25,560
Need an ETA on this fish 
catching. 

1322
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:33,640
Where's, Where are the fish? 
For me, I think it would be God,

1323
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:37,320
gun to my head. 
I, I think Angie. 

1324
01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,760
I think based on this episode 
alone, I think Angie. 

1325
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,000
Really. 
I think, yeah, I think she like 

1326
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,760
Angie. 
Like, she's just, she's fun. 

1327
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,280
She's like. 
She's still she doesn't take 

1328
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,080
herself too seriously, even 
though she's a pillar in the 

1329
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,760
community. 
Yeah, she's willing to get messy

1330
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,520
and you know, and, but she'll 
own up to it too, yes, Or just 

1331
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,040
downright gaslight you one way 
or the other, but no in between.

1332
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:05,400
She's a business woman. 
She's all the things, yes, and 

1333
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:06,080
she's. 
Beautiful. 

1334
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:10,840
Well, you guys, this, I think 
this is a really cool crossover 

1335
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,800
experience. 
I think we had an absolute time.

1336
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,320
I had a good time. 
I definitely had a good time I 

1337
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,360
it. 
Wasn't a good time. 

1338
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:20,600
Yeah, absolutely. 
I feel a little out of it just 

1339
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:22,480
because I've been home all day 
getting ready to go camping 

1340
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:24,080
tomorrow. 
So like I've just been kind of 

1341
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:26,240
in and out. 
But yeah, no, I had a really fun

1342
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,080
time. 
Like, I think I love talking 

1343
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:31,960
about housewives, but I think 
I'd love to do another one where

1344
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:34,840
we just like, talk about random 
stuff, like just, you know, 

1345
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,960
what's been going on Because 
like, that's what you normally 

1346
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,520
do on your show. 
Just like, let's have a let's 

1347
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,360
catch up. 
And I'm like, yeah, I like to do

1348
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,480
that too. 
I love that this is. 

1349
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,200
Also burning down. 
Right. 

1350
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,560
This is also such a long episode
for you guys too, because like 

1351
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:53,240
you guys just like usually clock
it like 35 minutes at the most. 

1352
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,240
And I'm like, I looked down and 
I was like an hour and 15 

1353
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,280
minutes. 
But it's good because, like, I 

1354
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:01,400
think, you know, we are coming 
straight from the episode and 

1355
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:04,320
we're like, also sometimes a 
little bit tired and it's also a

1356
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,360
little hot up here. 
So like, yeah, yeah. 

1357
01:12:06,440 --> 01:12:08,120
Then that happened. 
OK, good night. 

1358
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:11,520
Till next time. 
So I think I like that you took 

1359
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,440
the notes and, like, walked us 
through it and the entire 

1360
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:15,960
episode I'm like, Oh yeah, that 
.0. 

1361
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,360
Yeah, yeah, may have said that, 
yeah. 

1362
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:23,480
And like I did warn you guys, 
like I take notes like an insane

1363
01:12:23,480 --> 01:12:26,480
person and I hope it lived up to
like what? 

1364
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:30,360
That was great. 
I've tried taking notes before 

1365
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,560
and it just ends up being like 
little keywords and later on I'm

1366
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:34,200
like, what the hell was I 
talking about? 

1367
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:36,720
So like, no, you're, you're, I 
appreciate you doing that. 

1368
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:38,520
That was great. 
Of course. 

1369
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:41,440
Emma, do you just rely on him or
do you take your own notes? 

1370
01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:45,920
If I added to this I think we 
might go insane. 

1371
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,200
This is a note for like a 
regular episode. 

1372
01:12:53,480 --> 01:12:57,920
I'm along for the ride. 
I just I've decided that if I 

1373
01:12:57,920 --> 01:13:04,480
put notes in there it would be 
far too long and I'm funnier in 

1374
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:08,640
the moment. 
I what I will say, and This is 

1375
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:14,280
why Emma is always been such an 
incredible like partner, like 

1376
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,760
walking through my life with me 
and Co host like with me. 

1377
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:25,400
She is so so, so so good at just
letting me be is absolutely out 

1378
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,520
of my mind as I know I am. 
I just like as, as, as I clearly

1379
01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,920
am. 
Like I, I'm not going to say for

1380
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,280
one second that I'm not like 
chaos, but she's, she does a 

1381
01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:36,200
very good job of a controlling 
that chaos. 

1382
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:37,640
Like she knows when to rein me 
in. 

1383
01:13:37,640 --> 01:13:43,720
And she's also so great about 
just being like, yeah, we'll see

1384
01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:46,080
where the vibe goes. 
Like we'll see what happens. 

1385
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:48,880
Like, he's so good at that. 
And it's good to have an 

1386
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:50,440
outline. 
I love an outline. 

1387
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:51,880
That's kind of what I treated as
well. 

1388
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,320
So we we tend to rely on the 
pictures behind us. 

1389
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:57,400
So we go through and like we 
just make sure we touch up on 

1390
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,240
each of the housewives. 
And so sometimes we're like, we 

1391
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:04,640
talk about her yet and then. 
Yeah, a really jogging memory, 

1392
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,240
yeah. 
So we actually screw ourselves 

1393
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,520
and we're missing a set of 
pictures. 

1394
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:08,760
We're like, oh, who do we 
forget? 

1395
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:12,080
No. 
I love that. 

1396
01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:14,880
OK, Jeff and Scott, tell us 
where we can find you. 

1397
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:16,600
Tell the listeners. 
Tell everyone. 

1398
01:14:16,760 --> 01:14:19,080
No, we're just so happy we 
actually have our own website 

1399
01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:20,400
now. 
So husband's watching 

1400
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,720
housewives.com. 
We'll give you all the stuff 

1401
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:25,640
there. 
So and then husband's watching 

1402
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:27,520
on TikTok and some form of that 
everywhere. 

1403
01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:30,960
Else on Instagram, Instagram, 
all the places, yes, Spotify, 

1404
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,120
wherever. 
YouTube. 

1405
01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:36,120
Wherever you get your podcasts. 
I'm very happy with our search 

1406
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,520
engine results. 
I I Google myself when I'm bored

1407
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:39,800
at work. 
Now I'm like, oh, the husbands 

1408
01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:42,920
are places. 
I love that it's nice. 

1409
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,600
I also want to make sure that 
people don't confuse us with 

1410
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,640
other, you know, husbands 
watching other things because it

1411
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,480
could could get dirty if it gets
to the wrong. 

1412
01:14:50,480 --> 01:14:53,680
Site, yeah. 
Yeah, I think I've got a few of 

1413
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:57,640
those bookmarks, but. 
Where are they watching? 

1414
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,720
Yeah, no, we're watching The 
Real Housewives. 

1415
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:01,840
That's what we do, yeah. 
I love it. 

1416
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:06,240
Well, thank you so much for 
being here with us and thank you

1417
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:08,560
for having such a fun time with 
us. 

1418
01:15:08,560 --> 01:15:11,320
Like this has been so cool. 
This is fantastic. 

1419
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,880
I hope we can do it again so we 
can get into some more, some 

1420
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,880
more deep seated opinions and 
maybe some disagreements on on 

1421
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,520
where we get with different 
housewives that. 

1422
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,920
'D be fun, whatever you want. 
Because, like, we're very 

1423
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:24,200
similar in our beliefs. 
And so it's fun to hear, like 

1424
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,760
others like, OK, that's a valid 
point why you don't like her. 

1425
01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,880
So yeah. 
Well, I've got a ton of those, 

1426
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:35,680
don't you worry. 
Let this season of Potomac start

1427
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,680
and I'll have opinions for 
everyone. 

1428
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,760
I will too. 
Trust, trust you, me. 

1429
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,120
There's an open door for you to 
come on for the season premiere.

1430
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,040
Potomac. 
What is it? 

1431
01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:51,480
October 6th? 
I think whatever you want. 

1432
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:57,840
Do that because just like those 
other podcasts are on Teresa's 

1433
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:02,040
payroll and there were rumors 
that Robin Dixon was paying off 

1434
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:06,680
podcasts to if Giselle started 
paying me, I would have no 

1435
01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,560
shame. 
She doesn't have to pay me. 

1436
01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:10,080
She doesn't have to pay me at 
all. 

1437
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:15,960
Dear Giselle, don't you worry, 
you are bestie approved. 

1438
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,440
But yeah, thank you guys so much
for being here. 

1439
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:22,520
We loved it. 
Do you guys have anything else 

1440
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,960
you want to blog before you go? 
No. 

1441
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:26,760
Not at all. 
Thank you for having. 

1442
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:30,240
Thanks for having us, and yeah, 
listen to it whenever we're at 

1443
01:16:30,240 --> 01:16:31,360
your podcast. 
Woo Hoo. 

1444
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:33,640
Yes. 
Cool.

