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Welcome to the episode of 
Husbands Watching Housewives. 

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I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we 
just watched an episode of The 

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Real Housewives of Orange 
County. 

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Yes, in Amsterdam. 
Yes, well, half in Orange 

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County, half in Amsterdam. 
That was heavy on the orange. 

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It was heavy on the heavy on the
orange indeed. 

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Yes. 
Yeah. 

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Well, before we get there, I 
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thank everyone for listening 
today. 

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I stumbled onto a little bit of 
a slow period during my after my

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lunch break and I was Googling 
around and like looking, I found

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like I found podcast charts and 
saw that we apparently rank on 

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the podcast and I was like, oh, 
crazy. 

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So that was a new thing. 
But then also I discovered we 

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have like comments and reviews 
places I didn't know existed or 

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I just don't check very often. 
And I have to say like someone 

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on our Apple, I think it was on 
Apple. 

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We have two reviews of our 
podcast there that are just 

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absolutely one of them is 
absolutely wonderful. 

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And so whoever left the one 
about us being, you know, nice 

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considerate people who with 
soothing voices. 

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Yeah, slow soothing voices 
thing. 

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I was like, oh really? 
No, it really made really made 

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our day. 
It's like a definitely a high 

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point in my boring work day, 
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And it's just so weird because 
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between all the social media and
then the different podcasting 

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platforms, there could be 
comments out there like on like 

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Pod Bean or some weird podcast 
platform I don't use. 

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Pod bean not to be confused. 
Love bean. 

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Yes. 
It's not to be confused with 

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Mauricio's love bean. 
So yeah, just in general. 

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Thank you everyone who is 
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It made me think of, I think, 
you know, we don't talk about 

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him very much, but our very 
first kind of follower and 

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commenter, not JD Nutmeg Bear, 
he's still out there. 

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He's still liking our videos. 
So hi. 

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Hi. 
How you doing? 

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How you doing out there in the 
Nutmeg state? 

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So anyway, no, I mean, it's the 
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know, we are building a little 
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it's, it's hard to remember that
when you know it, it just, it's,

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it's all starting to happen. 
I think like we're, we're 

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getting more and more traction. 
I think we'd like to focus on 

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like, oh, like this video, we 
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not looking at the, the, the 
listening of it. 

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All right? 
You know, people like, yeah, 

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leaving comments on Apple or 
other streaming stuff. 

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But yeah, we have a listener who
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and she's British. 
And so she has, you know, she 

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was talking about how, you know,
the English accent. 

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Everyone automatically thinks 
that you're, you know, posh and 

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intelligence. 
And hold. 

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TF Yeah, exactly. 
Oh yeah, yeah. 

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So yeah. 
But she like, comments on every 

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video and I'm like, it's so 
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And I feel bad 'cause I see it 
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I'm like, I really want to have 
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Witty to. 
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know, relevant. 
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agree with what you're saying. 
Like, yeah, and I feel like it's

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kind of a cop out 'cause, you 
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leave a comment, we should take 
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kind. 
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can like, love something. 
Or like give it a Care Bear. 

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Right, right. 
But yeah, it's really, it's 

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really nice and we appreciate it
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So like, subscribe, if you want 
to really surprise us, go leave 

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a review at Apple or at Spotify,
do something like that. 

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Because that's where I'm like, 
oh, it's exciting. 

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It could be good or bad. 
Like if you find fault with 

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something, you know, you have a 
constructive criticism, we will 

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accept it. 
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You don't want to live in a 
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I'm saying everything right? 
And everything is so hilarious. 

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Like for instance, people have 
rated our podcast like we had 

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like 24 ratings and I'm like, 
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We're like 4 1/2 stars. 
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this is just us doing this and 
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there right. 
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Apparently so. 
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Nice. 
Thank you. 

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Very, very nice. 
So back to Orange County. 

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We were talking about it that 
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that they the show ends in 
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Right, so there's only two more 
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apparently it ends on the trip I
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Right. 
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usually on the episode post trip
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on our lives and where my 
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And they did it more. 
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before the the Amsterdam trip 
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have her moment with Terry kind 
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up things, you know, about her 
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But also so just like, you know,
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the house, the house finishing 
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And then Gina and Travis with 
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home. 
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she's glad that she came back 
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together and they just have this
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head. 
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happy. 
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And they are so, like, not that 
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like, who's going to match my 
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They're so similar, Like, yeah, 
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I, I was trying when she was 
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thought he was, you know, so 
cute and fun at the western 

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party and everything. 
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him, I was like, oh, he is kind 
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In a When I say doofy, I don't 
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Approachable. 
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Yeah, like he's not like who's a
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Oh, I don't know. 
He it's The thing is, yeah, he's

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not like super drop dead and he 
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who like even thinks that he's, 
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But it makes it a little bit 
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He's not like, you know, he's 
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He's just like, I'm just a 
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I'm a dad. 
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I'm supporting her on the show. 
Rather not talk about certain 

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things, but here we are crying 
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Well, then I started thinking. 
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looked like without that beard. 
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I think the beard he would look 
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Agree but also like his when I 
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his mouth, his mouth just seems 
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it's accentuated by the beard so
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beard. 
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And that's how ain't oh, Crammy 
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meets freak, right? 
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Yeah, Freak matches Freak. 
Freak matches Freak. 

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Yes, yes. 
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get really anything. 
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that they have a diagnosis for 
Luke right, which didn't say 

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what it was. 
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card right right in season, but.
It's nice they have a plan and 

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they can take care of moving 
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They built a bear at the 
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Is there the whole thing you can
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Yeah, and I'm sure as a 10 year 
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friends are maybe going to see 
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hey, great, you have a 
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Yes, but it's fortunately it is 
sweet. 

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Yeah, it's so it's, you know, if
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Yes, for sure. 
Tamara and Eddie. 

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Yeah, that was steady. 
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A what I. 
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like started, We're together and
Andy like kept singing the song?

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Tamara and Eddie still going 
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I think it's a song. 
Did he just make it a song? 

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No, it's actually a song. 
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thing. 
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a nice dinner out and kind of 
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their plan, you know, like, 
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it should you should handle it 
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Did I see? 
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into like, weird how well. 
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should we now Sophia is going to
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Like leave the state, which I 
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If anything, they would go to 
Big Bear. 

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That's they talk about all the 
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about. 
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me when you do this and like we 
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fight. 
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had one good fight. 
Every six months. 

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And then he was saying that it's
when she's drunk and I'm like, I

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don't think she drink that much 
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So did like he tell on her or 
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show and she's like raging? 
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Well, I'm sure also. 
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often, maybe you know, whenever 
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a, you know, few glasses of wine
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It's really. 
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And that's when she decides to, 
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That actually kind of kind of 
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What he said is that it's not 
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he just, she just comes at him 
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when you know, she, he's not 
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And I think it was probably a 
lot of their fights, like, why 

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can't you just, like, let me in?
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just can't let the guard down or
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I, there's something he said 
that like I was like, Oh my God,

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if, if I responded to you the 
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would be a serious problem for 
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Like the way that she was just 
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it was very reasonable to me 
where he's like, you know, if 

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you just came to me and told me 
how you were feeling and didn't 

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wait until you were drunk, you 
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like, it's not going to happen. 
Yeah, it's like immediately, no,

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not going to do that. 
Yeah, and it's like part of me 

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was like, no, I'm not going to 
stop drinking. 

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Is that what you're saying or 
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I'm not going to actually come 
to you in a reasonable way. 

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That just imagine if I said that

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to you, No, I'm not going to be 
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Like where does that leave us? 
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guess. 
Well, because she said, you 

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know, one of our issues is that 
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And so. 
But if she's not willing to like

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meet him halfway and communicate
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But they seem to be fine. 
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Like they seem to have something
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everything. 
What I dislike about this is 

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that all the comments on Reddit 
and everything eventually get 

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into them talking about how Tam 
you tell Eddie hates her. 

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Oh my God, like oh poor Eddie. 
And I'm like, I feel like Eddie 

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is the type of person if this 
wasn't working, he would leave. 

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He would be like, I love you, 
but like it's not going to work 

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out like this idea again. 
It's that whole like I think I 

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know Tamara from watching 5 
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And their relationship and their
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And it's like you don't. 
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we've heard of her from her 
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what they've even shown you ads 
is that they have, they each do 

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their own thing. 
Like they're not connected at 

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the hip. 
So they go off and they do their

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own thing and they like to come 
together and do things together.

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But then they go off and do 
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you know, and that's, you know, 
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their thing is like very chill, 
like she's like she doesn't 

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leave the house very much. 
She doesn't have to. 

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She's in bed by 9 if not 
earlier, right? 

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So I think they're just kind of 
like a typical couple, but. 

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Is there anything else in OC? 
It was Gen. packing with Ryan 

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and his extremely tight shorts. 
I mean. 

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I mean, I didn't want to be 
looking and trying to check out 

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Ryan's business, but. 
Was it? 

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It was junk forward. 
He was very junk forward. 

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That's totally on purpose. 
I think Ryan is an overly sexual

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person with both himself and his
fiance and it's like calm it 

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down. 
Yeah, I think he dresses to the 

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left, if I had to guess on that 
one. 

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But yeah, I kind of wanted to 
rewind it. 

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Like I, I almost asked you to 
rewind it so I could be like, 

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let me take a closer look at 
that. 

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But then I was like, oh, it's 
Ryan. 

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EW. 
That's a lot of EW. 

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That's like what Junior was 
saying. 

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Like I think maybe he sexualizes
her too much. 

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It's like, yeah, he does. 
When it gets down to it, it's 

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like when everything out of his 
mouth is something about oh, I 

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want to, I want to bone you or 
whatever it's he might as well 

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be like a 13 year old going ooga
ooga. 

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You know it's. 
More like like an extra 

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unmarried of children, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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It's just we get it. 
And it's one thing like, you 

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know, yeah, we get it. 
You love her. 

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You think she's beautiful. 
Tell her that all the time. 

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But like, if if I were to walk 
around like all the time being 

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like, hey, why are you going to 
drop those pants? 

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Let me get that that ass, you 
know, you'd be like, get over 

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it. 
Like, you would be so grossed 

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out about it. 
And I just can't imagine that 

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Jen's just all like, Oh yeah, 
come on, baby, you know? 

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Like you're speaking my love 
language. 

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Rude, lewd comics not on camera.
But maybe she's into it. 

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I don't. 
Know I don't know so. 

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Yeah, but nothing else in DOC 
other than. 

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Oh, we got a Oh, Shannon. 
Called her. 

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Daughter And then like there was
that blip of like Slate and 

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Gretchen and just, you know, 
maybe we can you know, if you 

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could be fine with. 
Yeah. 

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All they do is talk about 
Tamara, her whole confessional 

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with like, this is my list of 
things. 

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The fact that, Oh my God, pull 
up a list. 

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First of all, the producer was 
saying like, what's the 

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difference between you and 
Tamara? 

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That producer knew about that 
list. 

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Someone told her, because she 
told somebody, I have a list. 

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So the fact that she could be 
like blah, blah, blah, here's my

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short list. 
And it went on for like 10 

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minutes. 
And I think if we were to go 

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back and look at that list, I 
think we could find a what about

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for every one of those points, 
yes, everything that she's 

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saying Tamara does or does not 
do and what makes her sets her 

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apart. 
I think we could say, well, 

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this, he did this, he did that 
for that. 

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Yeah, you didn't do exactly what
Tamara did, but you do similar 

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things. 
And this idea of like, she needs

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to fight fire Tamara. 
And that's like, or you can just

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not fight at all. 
Like Tamara, unless you're 

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coming at her, she's not gonna 
well, try to ruin your world. 

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Like you came back on the show 
of an agenda. 

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So if you hadn't done that, like
girlfriend needs some therapy. 

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And that's where I know and now 
we're jumping around, but that's

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where Heather was definitely 
like what? 

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Fight fire with fire? 
Like no, if you're anything, 

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you're just gonna you don't get 
Tamara pissed off. 

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Like going at Tamara with guns a
blazing is gonna be the problem 

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every time. 
Like I'm not saying you know, 

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you should have to put on kids 
gloves, but if your if your 

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whole idea is to manage Tamara, 
if that's what your goal is, 

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you're not going to manage 
Tamara by going at her just as 

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hard. 
This season would have been so 

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much different had Gretchen, 
one, not coming with an agenda, 

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but two, once they allegedly got
to a good place on the beach, if

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she hadn't gone back on that 
with, oh, yeah, she screwed so 

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and so in the studio, they would
have been totally different 

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season. 
Yeah. 

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And yet she just couldn't do 
that. 

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So I, I, I don't, I don't get 
her. 

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But we'll, you know, whatever. 
So they fly to Amsterdam. 

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Well, before that, we have to 
get to the Jen's not Bridal 

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bridal party. 
Oh. 

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I forgot. 
See that's how much. 

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Yeah, OK. 
Because it was like the wedding,

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not bridal shower party and then
all the personal stuff and then 

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Amsterdam. 
So I think that the ladies were 

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correct and that Shannon wanted 
to be like, look at what I did 

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for you. 
I threw this party and, you 

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know, even though you don't even
know when you're getting 

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married, I threw this thing on 
camera and I made sure, you 

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know, I'm mad that I didn't get 
the blush glass as much as it's 

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like, who's going to care? 
Well, I mean, she did pay. 

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I mean, she basically had a pull
she paid a lot of money for. 

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That well then she would get 
some money back. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Clear blush. 

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Does it really matter? 
I wanted to match her 

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tablecloth. 
I'm sure it would have probably 

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been prettier. 
I don't know. 

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I was in bashful. 
I do. 

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I do think that Tamara, not 
Tamara, I do think that Shannon 

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was doing that because it's just
kind of the right thing to do on

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one hand. 
And but also, yes, she did 

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definitely want to grandstand 
and be like, look what a good 

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friend I am. 
No one else is doing this. 

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I did, but I don't think it was 
necessarily planned as a dig 

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towards anyone in specific. 
I think it was more of a of a 

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look how good of a friend I am 
and look how you know I support 

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what's going on and like I do 
what's right. 

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I also necessarily think it was 
I'm trying to get it Tamara by 

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like being friends with Jen. 
I think it's just that whoever 

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is she deems as friend worthy, 
she like, it's like love bombing

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but with friendship, you know, 
it's like, oh, that's my person 

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now I'm gonna go home on earth. 
Jim's my person, you know? 

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And it's like cuz Shannon, cuz 
Tamara has Heather and Emily and

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and. 
Emily has Gina and Gina has 

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Emily and. 
And Katie can't do Katie. 

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So yeah, just my person. 
And we're gonna throw this 

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party. 
And you know, so if she's a good

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place with Tamara, then she 
would have thrown Tamara a 

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birthday party or something. 
But. 

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Yeah, it was really pretty. 
It was very pretty. 

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I don't think that they should 
wear any more lemon dresses on 

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Orange County because Jen. 
Jen wore better. 

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I'm just saying because wasn't 
that last season when Jen? 

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Oh, that whole dress they shook 
in the Ford. 

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Exactly. 
But that was a beautiful dress. 

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Not not that Shannon didn't wear
it well, but wear it well. 

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Shannon, wear a typical like 
shift yeah dress, yeah, yeah, 

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pretty much. 
And then of course, we thought 

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it was a private event. 
And they flipped the camera 

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around. 
They were like, what the hell is

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that? 
Like it was some restaurant and 

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they were on the green, but 
everybody else like under the 

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patio just. 
Yeah, and they're all wearing 

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high heels. 
And yeah, I keep cutting you 

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off. 
You're gonna say something. 

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No, I was saying they had the 
whole like marriage of ice 

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thing, which is whatever, 
whatever. 

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Might as well say like don't go 
to bed angry. 

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I did like that they were like, 
they made a point of, you know, 

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Heather's the only one who's 
never been divorced, right? 

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She's still married. 
And I didn't know Emily had been

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married previously. 
I didn't either. 

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So do they ever? 
I mean, maybe they talked about 

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him before we watched. 
I've only heard my thing. 

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Only thing I remember is that 
Shane's been married before 

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because he has like grown kids. 
Right, right. 

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That because they just like had 
his daughter's wedding recently 

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or some such So and and Emily's 
very cool with his kids. 

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Yeah, I guess that that makes 
sense though, because I mean, if

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Emily's probably in her 40s, 
right? 

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Emily's your age. 
My age. 

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So then, yeah, she had her kids 
10 years ago and so she had a 

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probably 15 year gap somewhere 
in, you know, since her 20s. 

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And we now know that she had 
issues with getting pregnant and

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her her sister was her 
surrogate. 

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I wish we'd been there. 
That story, that's fascinating. 

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Right, absolutely so, but. 
Yeah, and then the whole point 

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of the bridal party was like 
where we should go on a trip. 

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Where should we like I was 
collaborative there was. 

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Yeah, Bora Bora. 
The Maldives. 

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Pari. 
How about Amsterdam? 

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Well, my daughter was saying my 
Amsterdam is a good place to go.

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I I want to go back to when 
Shannon calls her daughter. 

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You said there was a maze. 
I was Shannon thinking about 

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when her daughter said she was 
going to a rave and she heard 

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it. 
Oh. 

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Maybe. 
Because that's the sort of 

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Shannon sort of like what's 
bumbling this that like I could 

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see happening. 
What's bumbling in Amsterdam? 

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Yeah, she's Dutch. 
She's also Dutch. 

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Yeah, I think so. 
Yeah. 

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Danish. 
Dutch. 

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It's Dutch because like, the 
episode title for them is going 

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Dutch. 
Oh, got it. 

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That's cute. 
Very cute. 

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We're. 
Not going to do that. 

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No, no, no, we're not. 
I didn't realize that the 

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episode that on Salt Lake was 
the Salt Lake City Superman. 

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That was that was the episode of
a Bravo when I was like, oh, 

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that's funny. 
Because it's so random, I was 

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saying, you know, the Beverly 
Hills Amsterdam trip is so 

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iconic. 
And if I was a tradition, I 

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would say I know there's only so
many places they can go, but I 

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would be like, maybe not 
Amsterdam. 

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Like that was like the whole 
they'll talk about my husband 

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and right and the glass throw 
and like beasts, like everything

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went down in Amsterdam. 
But you know, I mean, different 

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cast, different show and but 
you're right, they could have 

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gone to any number of cities 
that are right around. 

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They could have gone to Sweden, 
they could have gone to right 

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Brussels, right? 
Is Brussels the country or the 

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city? 
It's a city. 

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What country is it in? 
I'm horrible with world 

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geography. 
Horrible. 

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No. 
Anyway, it'll come to me later. 

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But you've been to Amsterdam? 
I've been to Brussels, Amsterdam

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and Paris. 
Yeah, Amsterdam was beautiful, 

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absolutely beautiful. 
I would love to go back. 

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I had a cold when I was there. 
Yes. 

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And they don't have cold 
medicine in the Netherlands like

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they don't have Dayquil or 
Nyquil. 

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I don't believe in it. 
No honestly, like I went to a 

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pharmacy like I remember I had 
to get up like hella early and 

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walk. 
It was very cold because there 

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in the winter and I walked like 
all the way over to a pharmacy 

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and I was like, do you have like
any Nyquil or Dayquil? 

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And they're like, what? 
Like they had no idea what I was

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talking about. 
And I Googled it. 

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I ended up like looking it up on
some expat website and they're 

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like, yeah, I have my family 
send me that stuff because their

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solution is just like, it's a 
cold. 

439
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:09,160
Live through it, you'll be fine.
That's not the American way. 

440
00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,920
Yeah, well, also I'm on 
vacation. 

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I don't want to feel lousy. 
And so I ended up getting, you 

442
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know, just ended up having a 
space shake and drinking. 

443
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Wouldn't you like concoct some 
stuff like you got like? 

444
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,240
Yeah, I I found some different 
things, like I found I think 

445
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they have cough syrup, but they 
don't have all the stuff that, 

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00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:27,800
you know, I just wanted Dayquil 
because Dayquil just fixes me 

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right up. 
But but yeah, I don't recommend.

448
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,680
And that's why now I always 
travel with Dayquil like in no 

449
00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,240
matter what. 
I don't care if it's expired. 

450
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,760
I have a little two things, a 
Dayquil and every one of my bags

451
00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:37,640
that I own. 
It's oh. 

452
00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,000
Really. 
Whenever we go on a trip. 

453
00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:42,400
Oh yeah, Oh yeah, there's one in
the bottom of my my work bag, 

454
00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,160
one of the bottle bottom of my 
laptop bag for this. 

455
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,280
And yeah. 
So take one and the sick of the 

456
00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:49,320
Bravo con. 
Oh yeah, just in case. 

457
00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,920
You never know. 
You never know those. 

458
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,720
People together. 
You never know when you're gonna

459
00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,400
end up in Amsterdam, and you 
need some someday, Quill so. 

460
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,880
Sure, words were never spoken. 
So when they got on the 

461
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,120
airplane, yeah, they flew 
JetBlue. 

462
00:21:01,120 --> 00:21:03,840
Is that what you concluded? 
Yeah, I didn't know that JetBlue

463
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,320
had so many like first class, 
business class. 

464
00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,120
I would have thought it would 
have to be, like, American or 

465
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,680
right. 
So I was like, really? 

466
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,000
And like those pods. 
Yeah. 

467
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:15,080
Like that's a thing. 
I mean, that was a really good 

468
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,040
ad for JetBlue because I was 
like, damn, it made me think, 

469
00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:22,360
especially on a 14 hour flight, 
like if we ever go to Europe, I 

470
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:25,080
mean, we got a, we got a spring 
for those pods. 

471
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,760
I would like a pod at least one 
of my life. 

472
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,000
Once in my life. 
Yeah, because I would also like 

473
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,200
to get to our destination and 
even though we'll be jet lagged 

474
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,720
as hell, like I would like there
to be a snowball's chance in 

475
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,560
hell that you actually may have 
slept. 

476
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,840
That's the thing, I never sleep 
on planes. 

477
00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:44,360
I went to Italy once and didn't 
sleep the entire way and it was 

478
00:21:44,360 --> 00:21:45,840
probably like 12 hours or 
something like that. 

479
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,680
And I just like. 
I don't know what I did but. 

480
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,760
Now did you not sleep at all or 
did you do? 

481
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,320
Your thing, I did my thing, I 
did my thing. 

482
00:21:52,360 --> 00:21:54,600
That's dosing thing, but like 
sitting up dosing. 

483
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,480
But I think when I got there I 
slept for a bit like a bit of a 

484
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,440
nap. 
I'm also not a napper, right. 

485
00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,240
So it's just like. 
Hard for you to recover. 

486
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,400
Yes. 
One little fact about Jeff is 

487
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,000
he's the original airline raw 
dogger. 

488
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,440
You'll read though, you'll bring
a book of course. 

489
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:15,200
But he doesn't doesn't like 
earphones, like they hurt his 

490
00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,760
ears, give him headaches and 
stuff. 

491
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,680
So like he will not put in 
earbuds or even wear earphones 

492
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:23,600
on the outside. 
So he will sometimes I will be 

493
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,800
like listen to music. 
We were on some flight recently 

494
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,960
where there was like screaming 
kids everywhere. 

495
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,720
And I'm like, whatever, I got my
noise cancellers on and and 

496
00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,080
you're sitting there like 
you're. 

497
00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:34,920
Just sitting there. 
I had my book though. 

498
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,520
Staring straight ahead, but 
yeah. 

499
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,080
But then he does this like thing
where he like gets sleepy and 

500
00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:40,720
he's not sleeping, but he's 
doing the whole like. 

501
00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:44,160
Well, The thing is like, I think
I I brought a book when I went 

502
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:47,360
to Italy, but I didn't, I wasn't
into it, so I didn't. 

503
00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:50,640
So I really was pretty much raw 
dog and I was like, let me just 

504
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,320
think about life. 
I just think about life. 

505
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,720
Yeah, couldn't, couldn't, I 
couldn't do that at all. 

506
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:57,840
So, but yeah, that's why we need
a pod. 

507
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,560
Definitely need. 
Yes, a little. 

508
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:00,600
Sleeping pod. 
That'd be nice. 

509
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,760
That'd be really nice. 
And when she mentioned she's 

510
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,560
like, oh, you just put your 
phone down and it charges. 

511
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,400
I'm like, we got that in our got
that in our car. 

512
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,400
Yes, yeah, dual. 
Chargers. 

513
00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:10,800
We paid extra money for the dual
charging. 

514
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,800
I'm so worried now with that 
though that like, you know, if 

515
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,520
you charge your phone too much, 
it starts to lose its charge. 

516
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:19,480
Like it won't hold it. 
I'm just so worried now. 

517
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,240
I'm worried about it too, 
because I do it like I try not 

518
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,160
to. 
I just like when I'm at work, I 

519
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,040
will charge my phone if it's low
because I worry about like being

520
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,200
not at home and so far from 
home, right, So far from home 

521
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,480
and not having a charged phone. 
So it's like, you know, it 

522
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,480
charges overnight, which 
probably like it finishes 

523
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,960
charging like way before I get 
up. 

524
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,600
So that's overcharging. 
And then I'm charging at work 

525
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,120
and I'm charging again. 
It's like it's a lot of charging

526
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:47,400
when you ride. 
You ride the bus though, so 

527
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,400
like, it's like you wouldn't 
want your phone to die. 

528
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,000
Exactly. 
Exactly. 

529
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,200
So you know what? 
Yeah. 

530
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,760
But now I feel better because 
the the old car didn't charge 

531
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,200
reliably and and even this one 
does. 

532
00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,600
It does. 
And even here at home. 

533
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,760
Well, and I also like it because
there's little lights that blink

534
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,480
that show you it's charging. 
The charger I use here at home 

535
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,880
sometimes doesn't charge for me.
And so I wake up in the morning 

536
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,760
and go, oh, I'm at 12%. 
But now I know in the car it'll 

537
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:11,840
charge. 
I'm like, I'm all, I'm all set. 

538
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,160
What a good it's. 
An investment? 

539
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,520
It really is investment. 
Sanitize things. 

540
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:20,720
Yeah, we learned there's a UVC 
sanitation compartment in the 

541
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,560
car. 
Like the the car dealer was 

542
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,440
like, oh, there's two glove 
compartments and they're like, 

543
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:25,960
well, that's whatever. 
And yeah. 

544
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,960
That was like, who needs that? 
Yeah, and one of them's like 

545
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,960
really small too. 
And I was like, OK, I guess 

546
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,960
we'll put the garage door 
opener, even though you can 

547
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,560
program the mirror to open the 
garage. 

548
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:35,920
It's amazing. 
It's so great. 

549
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,360
But yeah, so we read about it 
and apparently it's for people 

550
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:39,960
who want to just sanitize 
things. 

551
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,280
They put it in there, 10 minutes
later it's sanitized. 

552
00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,120
This is the given thing like 
during COVID. 

553
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,080
I I mean, the car was remodeled 
in 20 fours when they so I mean,

554
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,760
it's been a while, but yeah, 
maybe it is. 

555
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,080
I don't know if it's anything 
that actually works. 

556
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,160
I should look into it, but it 
because right now it just seems 

557
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:55,560
like it's voodoo science or 
something. 

558
00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:58,240
It's like, OK, sure it's 
sanitizes. 

559
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,320
It's like when they are in New 
Orleans at the Voodoo, right? 

560
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,400
Brought it back to see. 
Thank you very much. 

561
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,640
So they get to Amsterdam. 
It's the Amsterdam. 

562
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,360
It's a lovely town, all the 
canals of. 

563
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,120
Course Emily and Gina share A 
room. 

564
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,760
Because they have to. 
Yeah, wouldn't be a trip without

565
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,400
that. 
Right. 

566
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,200
It's like back when they like 
Shan. 

567
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,240
Sorry, Shan, Ramona and Sonya 
would always have to share a 

568
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:20,960
room. 
Oh yeah. 

569
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:24,400
Yeah, I didn't know that. 
Yeah. 

570
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,800
And then they put on their St. 
wear. 

571
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,600
Yeah. 
That was bizarre. 

572
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,040
It was. 
Like that's a lot of look, a lot

573
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,160
of like cameras. 
That's about the only one I 

574
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,000
liked. 
I mean, Heather's was. 

575
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,680
Emily in the cutouts was like, 
it was good. 

576
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,120
Like, yeah, really good, Yeah, 
looks really good. 

577
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:47,200
I Jen, was like too much with 
the hair. 

578
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,240
The crimped hair. 
Well, and then the way the cut 

579
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:51,680
behind, I know that's the whole 
point, is that the seam of that 

580
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,640
dress went right between the 
cheeks. 

581
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,360
Yeah, but then the lace and 
everything, it just looked a 

582
00:25:56,360 --> 00:25:57,680
little too a. 
Little Witchy. 

583
00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,520
Yeah. 
And also I think, I think it 

584
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,560
doesn't go from day to night 
very well. 

585
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,240
No it. 
Started off at night. 

586
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,320
Yeah. 
Stayed there. 

587
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,800
And they were like, in the day 
because they went on the whole, 

588
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,520
like, canal trip. 
And she's like, you know, got to

589
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,360
get my witchy poo look for 
later, right? 

590
00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:15,920
And yeah. 
The canal trip, but I I enjoyed 

591
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,800
the canal trip when I was there.
It's very pretty. 

592
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:19,800
I would like to do a canal trip.
Sure. 

593
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,720
I don't know what it is about 
water transportation. 

594
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,360
It's. 
Just, it's just so nice, right? 

595
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,400
It is. 
I like taking the ferry when I 

596
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:28,680
can, and you're just like, oh, 
look at this, we're on. 

597
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,440
Because that's the thing you do.
You're usually in a car or bus. 

598
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,640
So I'd like to be in like I'm on
the water and like there's some 

599
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,200
houses and right, scenic and 
yeah. 

600
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,600
So from the little trip there 
after they drove past Heather's 

601
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,040
dad's house. 
And then it leads to Emily out 

602
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,720
of nowhere. 
So, Shannon? 

603
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,960
Oh yeah. 
How, like you could play a 

604
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,040
drinking game? 
How many like times does Emily 

605
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,440
say can I ask a question? 
Can I ask a question? 

606
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,960
No. 
No, it's just going to end with 

607
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,840
stirring shit. 
That's all. 

608
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:02,400
It's going to end with don't. 
You think no, like I, Shannon 

609
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,920
and Tamara are not going to be a
thing anymore, so let's just let

610
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,920
them coexist in the same space 
without drawing attention to the

611
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,320
thing. 
And then did Shannon even 

612
00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,240
respond? 
It seemed like everyone else 

613
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,360
kind of got in the way for 
Shannon and really said 

614
00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:17,200
anything. 
Then Tamara did, she did it on 

615
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,600
purpose. 
She does not forgive Tamara. 

616
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:24,560
And you know, Tamara is and like
called her see you next Tuesday.

617
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,400
Never said like are you a see 
you next Tuesday? 

618
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,520
Like if I say that, does it 
matter if you're not a see you 

619
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,680
next Tuesday? 
Right, right. 

620
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,520
It's the same way that like, 
yeah, that's exactly what I said

621
00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:35,360
to you. 
It's like when people get all 

622
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:38,600
upset that like, oh, you, you 
know, you're calling, you know, 

623
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,560
you're saying, oh, like it's if 
someone were to call me a racist

624
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,760
white man. 
Yeah, I'm not worried about that

625
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,880
because I know I'm not a racist 
white man, right. 

626
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,400
So if you're not a see you next 
Tuesday, it shouldn't matter if 

627
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,840
someone calls you that 
repeatedly or evil or evil, 

628
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,600
because you're not. 
And especially, I do feel like 

629
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,480
when Tamara was saying that, 
that's what she was saying, 

630
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,840
like, well, are you one of 
those? 

631
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,160
No, you're not. 
So, you know, don't worry about 

632
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,840
it. 
Like if you're not one of those,

633
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,520
just yeah. 
Walk by, but in general, I just 

634
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,320
understand the point. 
Emily was trying to the fact 

635
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,080
they were talking about it 
earlier in the hotel room and 

636
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,920
she's like, now's my chance. 
And I'm like, I don't it's it 

637
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,800
was. 
Weird, I don't agree with. 

638
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:24,160
That it was like almost as bad 
as like her saying I said it on 

639
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:25,680
a trip. 
I don't trust you because it's 

640
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,400
kind of your party now. 
Maybe that's gonna be her thing.

641
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:35,040
She's like, I've just become the
awkward one when they're walking

642
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,680
around town because they go from
that party then to. 

643
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:39,080
Split up. 
They split up into. 

644
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,200
They do. 
Dildo decorating and then into 

645
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,480
space to the dispensary. 
Which is basically only to two 

646
00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,040
things to get Shannon the high 
as F, which she did because she 

647
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,800
kept nibbling on the space cake,
right? 

648
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,560
And you asked me if I would do 
if here's a little another fact 

649
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,960
about me. 
I have never done the marijuana.

650
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,320
Or any of the drugs? 
Not any of the drugs, but I've 

651
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:06,760
never smoked pot that was an 
edible like I've had Tamra's. 

652
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,640
No, you've had the THC like the 
yeah, it wasn't THC, You had the

653
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,280
CBD. 
It was a sleepy time. 

654
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,920
Yeah, you had the CBD for 
edible, but you should do that 

655
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:15,680
again. 
We should. 

656
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:16,680
Those were helpful. 
For sure. 

657
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,280
But no, I've never done. 
I just, it's not my thing and I 

658
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,880
don't think if I was in 
Amsterdam I wouldn't do it there

659
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,880
either. 
When I went to Amsterdam, I was 

660
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:30,080
a little irritated that it was 
already legal in America, at 

661
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,680
least medically at the time, if 
not recreationally in 

662
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,520
California. 
But because I did want to kind 

663
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,960
of have that 80s kind of 
European road trip movie of 

664
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,040
like, oh, we're in Amsterdam, 
it's legal, it's all good. 

665
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,080
But I didn't want to like, I've 
had better weed in my life than 

666
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:47,800
what they were selling in this 
dispensary. 

667
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:48,960
So I was just like, oh, 
whatever. 

668
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,880
Well, and then it's just so 
funny because like, it shouldn't

669
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,960
be a thing, but is it is kind of
crazy to see like Heather Dubrow

670
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,560
with a lit joint. 
I'm like on TV and I'm like, is 

671
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,520
that allowed? 
Because they would not have done

672
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:06,520
that in circa 20, 15 right with 
Beverly Hills, because it 

673
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,360
wasn't. 
Was we legal? 

674
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,440
In Elliot then in LA, yeah, 
probably medically at that time,

675
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,400
but it. 
Wasn't like a thing like it is 

676
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360
now, right? 
So it's just such a we've come 

677
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,320
so far. 
For sure, yes, before, even 

678
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:25,720
before Shannon had got the space
cake and that is of course out 

679
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:27,680
there. 
The the number one mistake with 

680
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,600
edibles is I'll just have a 
little bit more. 

681
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,520
I'm not feeling it, No then 
even. 

682
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,160
I know that. 
Then you're going to start 

683
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,480
feeling it. 
But even prior to her getting 

684
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:39,080
high, why does she walk around 
town like she's got a load in 

685
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,760
her pants? 
Like it looks like she pooped 

686
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,560
her pants and I just. 
I just don't understand. 

687
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,680
I just her toe was hurt. 
Oh, that's, yes, that's true. 

688
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,200
Because she did look like she's 
maybe walking back on her heels.

689
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,720
Yeah. 
And then just because she was 

690
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,240
just waddling. 
Well, the fact that, like, she 

691
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,600
wasn't even like she almost fell
out of the the van when they got

692
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,280
there originally, and then when 
they got to the restaurant, she 

693
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,520
fell out of the van. 
It's just her thing. 

694
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,920
God bless her. 
I just don't want her to break a

695
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,320
hip. 
Yeah, like she falls a lot or 

696
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,520
potentially falls. 
It's just I. 

697
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,600
Just remember when she fell out 
of the boat and bruised herself 

698
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,520
in that one season when they 
like went scuba diving or 

699
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,400
something. 
She had oh right, she fell 

700
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,360
backwards out of the boat like 
you're supposed to, but then 

701
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,400
like ended up hitting her head 
on the boat or something. 

702
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,880
Why do I remember these things 
like? 

703
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,920
After a while it's like, is this
just your thing? 

704
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,520
Like you're just danger parental
daft. 

705
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160
That was the same season where 
they were up in that weird tree 

706
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,000
house restaurant. 
Oh the tree and they had like a 

707
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,360
walk on the IT. 
Didn't have to walk on the rope.

708
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,120
They could have gone around, but
they're like, oh God, it was 

709
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,240
her. 
And Vicki, I think, wasn't. 

710
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:45,200
It Yeah. 
So Vicki came back in like a 

711
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,600
special appearance. 
Yeah, I'm like, that's weird in 

712
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:48,600
Mexico. 
Yeah, yeah. 

713
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,920
So. 
But yeah, I wish, I wish Shannon

714
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,240
was a little bit more graceful. 
Never even happened. 

715
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,320
So now the first thing is yeah, 
about getting Shannon high. 

716
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,160
The second thing was swinging 
them up is so they can talk 

717
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,280
about Alexis. 
And I'm sure Alexis is going to 

718
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:06,200
have a field day with this 
because she loves talking about 

719
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:07,640
the show. 
Yeah. 

720
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,800
Here's the thing, you can be 
friends with everybody, like Jen

721
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,520
being friends with Alexis. 
So actually let me let's back it

722
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,960
up. 
Alexis is on 2TS and she was 

723
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,960
talking about Jen and inviting 
her to the wedding and then 

724
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,880
basically disinviting her 
because they seemed to be 

725
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,880
growing apart. 
They weren't talking as much. 

726
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,400
But before that they talked all 
the time and you know, had a 

727
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,280
good friendship at even after 
Alexis left the show. 

728
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,080
So for Jenna to be like, I don't
really talk to Alexis that much 

729
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,760
is very interesting. 
And I'm sure Alexis will be 

730
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,040
like, let me produce the texts 
of all our conversations. 

731
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,760
But she to make it seem as let's
make it seem. 

732
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,160
But for her to be like telling 
Shannon, well, I'm not going to 

733
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,160
go because of you, Shannon, 
because that what it would do to

734
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:55,960
us. 
And I'm like. 

735
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:58,920
Yeah, that's a little bit. 
So dumb. 

736
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,840
You're grown ass women and in 
your 40s and 50s. 

737
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,160
Just because she's friends with 
Alexis, she's not like taking 

738
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,800
information back and forth. 
She's not Katie, you know, like 

739
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:12,800
so for Shannon to be like, I 
couldn't be friends with Jen, I 

740
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240
couldn't be close with her. 
If she's friends with Alexis, 

741
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,280
it's just dog. 
I mean, I think it's not, I 

742
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,920
think it's not reasonable for 
real friends to be like that. 

743
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:23,520
But I think as show friends, I 
think that's probably like 

744
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,960
probably par for the course is 
to be like, well, I'd, you know,

745
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,280
rather you not be friends with 
that. 

746
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,800
Person The thing is like it's 
not last season where Alexis was

747
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,680
doing well, seemingly doing 
everything to like take Shannon 

748
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,880
down with John Jansen. 
It's it's not a factor anymore, 

749
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,520
you know, so you yourself, 
yourself said like you could 

750
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,840
have him sister, like he's 
damaged goods. 

751
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,720
So let her be off with him and 
be happy. 

752
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,520
And they got married. 
So whatever. 

753
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,880
Shannon right. 
And just Jen could be friends 

754
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,680
with you both. 
So yeah, that's a weird 

755
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,200
situation. 
Very well, that's going to come 

756
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,360
up, I'm sure. 
Oh, I absolutely. 

757
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,160
What did you think about the 
penis decorating? 

758
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,680
That's kind of. 
Silly. 

759
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,440
I expected better. 
Like arts and crafts. 

760
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,880
It seemed very arts and crafty. 
I was expecting like sequins and

761
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,840
glitter and like a whole, like a
whole barrage of accoutrements. 

762
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,400
Glitter penis. 
Yeah, or like maybe lasers that 

763
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,960
would shoot out the sides or 
something. 

764
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,199
Just something more than just 
like I'm the throw this little 

765
00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:25,800
Garter and boa around it and 
give it googly eyes. 

766
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,360
I mean, it was basic. 
It was. 

767
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,080
I don't understand it. 
I did like all the women's 

768
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,320
response when Tamara was like, I
found this fun thing. 

769
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:34,600
We can all they're like, no, I 
think that does not sound fun at

770
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:34,880
all. 
That's. 

771
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,880
Weird. 
Well, they come to Amsterdam. 

772
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,080
It's a decorated Dick, right? 
I did Lancer. 

773
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,040
I would not I. 
Did like the purveyor she was. 

774
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:43,679
She was fabulous. 
She was great. 

775
00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,719
So and then they end up. 
Made at dinner. 

776
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,040
Eat at dinner, they order 
everything. 

777
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:53,760
Because they got the munchies. 
Shannon's all looped out, she 

778
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,120
drops her bread and she gets 
groped by Tamra. 

779
00:34:56,159 --> 00:35:01,440
Yeah, they showed Tamra's. 
Tamra's derriere derriere. 

780
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:02,480
Good derriere. 
Yeah. 

781
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,120
I mean for, yeah, I mean keeping
that thing tight. 

782
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,400
Right. 
Squats, Damn sure. 

783
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,000
And then they have a fun time. 
Yeah. 

784
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,400
Like, I thought I was like, 
where's the cliffhanger? 

785
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,000
But then it's like, oh, 12 
hours. 

786
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,520
Yeah, they had to do the 12 
hours later. 

787
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:19,600
But it was nice to see them like
just be being loopy and being 

788
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:22,440
fun and people like that. 
There used to be a balance in 

789
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,800
Housewives of being like silly, 
ridiculous, fun and then also 

790
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,400
fighting. 
You can't just be purely. 

791
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,520
Fighting, I'm not going to lie 
though, I mean, I think a lot of

792
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,560
that has to do with the fact 
that half of them were probably 

793
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,080
high, especially because 
especially if you get high 

794
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,960
enough, you'd sometimes you just
can't have anxiety. 

795
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,280
You're like, I know there's 
things I should be worried about

796
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,440
but I literally do not know how 
to do that right now but. 

797
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,040
Then they did like when Shannon 
like stopped and was like wait. 

798
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,160
That's true. 
But no, I think that's 

799
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,360
definitely part of it because 
there's times when like I've 

800
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,120
come home from work and just 
been like can't get my brain to 

801
00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,800
shut off and just be like, and 
I'm like, OK, maybe like a 

802
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,960
little 5 milligram edible, 
that'll that'll help. 

803
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,640
And I'm like, yeah, OK, now I'm 
OK. 

804
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,280
Now I'm not worrying about that 
thing. 

805
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,560
I can think about things and 
like really just start shifting 

806
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:12,800
my mind into more amusing things
than worrying about the things 

807
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,880
that I constantly worry about. 
So probably helpful. 

808
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,280
Yeah. 
Anyway. 

809
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:21,680
So yeah, 12 hours later, we've 
seen the preview, all hell seems

810
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,040
to break loose, and the big 
whatever happens, that word 

811
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,440
makes it so they end the season 
on the trip. 

812
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,480
Must be pretty big because. 
It's going to be the next two 

813
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,840
episodes. 
Yes. 

814
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,920
That's going to be interesting. 
And those 3. 

815
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:38,080
Yeah, I I normally you can tell 
something but this is weirdly 

816
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,760
edited together the scenes. 
And nothing is leaked out, which

817
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,800
is great. 
So I want to be surprised with 

818
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,320
the revelation. 
I think it's Gretchen related. 

819
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,520
It, I mean, it must be Gretchen 
related because that'll make it 

820
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,960
high stakes at low stakes 
because, you know, no one will 

821
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,640
get fired, just Gretchen won't 
come back. 

822
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:58,360
Yeah, exactly. 
No, I also like that Gina seems 

823
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,400
to be having some sort of 
conflict and a role in all this.

824
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,040
With Gretchen. 
Yeah. 

825
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,040
So that'll be interesting to 
hear with how that works out. 

826
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,920
So, but overall, yeah, I'd say 
it's a good episode. 

827
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,760
It was a lot of filler. 
I could have done a lot less 

828
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:14,640
personal story. 
Some of it was good. 

829
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,000
Someone was like, okay. 
But again, they needed to wrap 

830
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,160
up because we're not gonna get 
any of that right when they get 

831
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,560
back. 
We gotta like have their version

832
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,920
of Merce in the purse. 
Yeah, we're not yet. 

833
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,360
We haven't seen her spread the 
ashes. 

834
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,120
No, I'm sure that'll be next. 
Next week. 

835
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,400
If they blow it back on everyone
and then I'm like, so it's going

836
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,240
to pop up, Hey now that's what I
do. 

837
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:37,240
Hey y'all, so I don't. 
Know what you're doing over 

838
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:37,840
there. 
I don't know what. 

839
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,280
You're doing over there was 
spreading those ashes, but I 

840
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:41,480
don't. 
That was all those Murphs. 

841
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,280
I got I got this purse I'm going
to leave right over here there. 

842
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,640
It's going to pop up, Murse. 
Those are my purse. 

843
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,640
Very good. 
So is that it? 

844
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,000
We have her on. 
Yeah, yeah, I'm looking forward 

845
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,960
to the next two episodes. 
And then the reunion. 

846
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,440
Yes, yeah. 
You're right, we do need to get 

847
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,720
bigger pictures for these walls 
then you call it. 

848
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,000
This side, yes, that's a good 
side next time. 

849
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,840
Now that I know where the NBC 
Universal stash of photos is 

850
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,960
kept online and their media 
vault, I can make sure we get 

851
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,240
them cuz these we all just you 
just found on the Internet. 

852
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:22,080
This was, yeah, I just searched 
like, like OC shots and that's 

853
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,720
what I got and. 
Probably got them off of like 

854
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,240
other people's blog sites. 
I would feel bad doing that 

855
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,000
because, you know, I feel like. 
No, I would not. 

856
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,520
It wasn't from that. 
It was like these are like legit

857
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,480
don't come after me. 
Bravo, legit Bravo material. 

858
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,880
Oh, that's fine. 
I mean, that's what it's there 

859
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,400
for, right? 
OK, yeah, well, Bella, we've 

860
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,840
gotten that little technical 
blurb. 

861
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,160
I appreciate that. 
And we'll talk about it more 

862
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:42,840
next time. 
Till. 

863
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,200
Next time, we're sort of getting
tired.

