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Welcome to the episode of 
Husbands Watching Housewives. 

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I'm Scott. 
And I'm Jeff. 

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And we just watched an episode 
of The Real Housewives of Orange

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County. 
Yes, Spring Fling florals. 

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You, you, you were acting like, 
oh, you're like, oh, Lord 

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surprise Spring Fling. 
Floor I was doing. 

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What were you doing? 
Devil wears Prada like florals 

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for spraying. 
I didn't get it. 

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I thought you were being serious
and seriously Starky. 

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I was like. 
Oh, it was a very pretty party. 

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It was very pretty. 
It it got very ugly, but it was 

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very pretty like the setup and 
because I saw her Instagram and 

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she like posted like she also 
had like the amazing sprinkle 

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cake there and all the things 
and like it just looked like a 

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great setup. 
So yeah, no, it was very, very 

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pretty and the wisteria and all 
that. 

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I like that she just had a box 
of wisteria like from previous 

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party. 
She pulled it out. 

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It was just like, you know, I. 
Thought this was like from like 

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Amazon or something. 
Maybe it was I, I, I felt like 

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she just had a box of 
decorations and just like I had 

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wisteria and. 
I had wisteria equals party. 

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Yeah, I really I didn't. 
I liked camera's dress when I 

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first saw it, like in the 
reviews and everything. 

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But upon closer insection, there
were like cutouts in it that 

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were like against like a back, 
like a nude backing was very, 

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very tasteful. 
I really liked it. 

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There were times when she was 
bending over. 

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I thought we were going to get 
like an up the skirt shot. 

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It was or she's walking. 
Yeah, up the stairs. 

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Up those stairs, first of all, 
I'm like, how do you do that in 

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like those super high platforms 
like and don't like tumble down 

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the stairs. 
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going to get an up the skirt 
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I liked her little demure like 
Bree Van der Kamp sweater. 

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Over it. 
It was very cute and I liked 

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Emily's. 
I liked the floral dresses and 

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he. 
I did too. 

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I like, I was like, I bought 
this coat for now, I'm gonna 

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wear. 
I'm gonna wear it. 

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Clearly she could just return 
things to that boutique. 

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And I mean. 
I was her. 

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I wouldn't. 
I wouldn't. 

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Like, don't feed into it, honey.
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anything on camera. 
Sorry. 

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Probably not. 
Not a good. 

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And then Shannon's dress was 
good, although I think her boobs

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walked in the room before she 
did A. 

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Good 5 minutes before a good. 5 
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looked voluptuous, but I, I'd, I
don't think that dress fit her 

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right. 
I mean, I mean, and unless 

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that's what I mean, maybe it fit
her all too well, but you know, 

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it seemed very like it was 
relocating the ladies. 

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It was very put them in another 
zip code so. 

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They were down in LA. 
And they were, it was 

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flattering. 
But you know, I'm, I'm used to 

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Shannon being a little bit less,
less breasty. 

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Yeah, it is. 
It was because normally she 

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doesn't show that. 
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like a layered kind of blazer 
sort of look. 

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Good, right, Right. 
Or like lots of like a sweater 

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or like some sort of draping 
like blanket or something or in 

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blanket. 
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And some broken readers. 
So how did this one start? 

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It started with picking up from 
last week's episode with 

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Gretchen sitting down with Jen 
and talking about. 

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Oh, of course, because they had 
to give Gretchen some sort of. 

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Well, between that and like that
stupid photo shoot, it's like 

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they give some context of here's
the thing. 

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OK, tell me the thing. 
This whole I don't I don't care 

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as Shannon said, like, oh, I 
heard Gretchen apologize yes to 

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you. 
She said that she was sorry. 

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She felt bad about bringing up 
the whole thing, but this whole 

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like, oh, let's rally around 
Gretchen, why she's starting 

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these rumors and just like 
throwing it out there. 

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And she tried to like, she did 
not want this to come out. 

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Not because she cared so much 
about Tamara. 

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She didn't want the wrath of 
Tamara coming at her in her 

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ponytail. 
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like, oh, Tamara was real 
overreacting. 

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No, she was accused of having an
affair like screwing and singing

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with a pop star who they can't 
even say his name nor his group.

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I don't know. 
Bravo was scared and and just, 

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you know, all other it's like we
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beach at Chin's little lunch 
thingy. 

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And then like bam in LA, it's 
like she couldn't wait to word 

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vomit all this. 
So there's no poor Gretchen 

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here. 
Like, I mean, she Poe, according

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to Tamra, right? 
He's Siri. 

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All you get, all you get would 
be a bag of groceries. 

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But she's not poor Gretchen. 
Like Gretchen created the drama,

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tried to walk out of the drama 
and then was brought to her. 

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She doubled down of like, you 
don't want to know what I know 

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about you and. 
I wish. 

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I mean that again, we've talked 
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the past and I like that Tamra 
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this whole like, oh, I know 
something about you. 

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It's like, no, you don't. 
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either on TikTok or on on 
Instagram someone has the song 

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the. 
I saw someone posted the song 

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but like he tweaked it a bit and
like did like a little like some

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AI or or not AI but auto tune to
it and. 

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I didn't listen long enough 
because I was at work and it 

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usually stops me direct. 
No, I didn't listen long enough.

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But it was like her like 
starting to sing and when she's 

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like I don't like the way I 
sound like I don't want to do 

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this. 
Like she was just clearly her 

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being like this is just goofy. 
Not like, yeah, not. 

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Taking it seriously and then, 
you know, then all the moaning 

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and stuff. 
No, I'm kidding. 

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I didn't didn't hear the moaning
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It's it's the silliest story, 
this idea that they like got so 

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caught up in the moment. 
It's something that would happen

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like freaking like like models 
ink, Okay, and you know, like, 

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oh, I got so caught in the 
moment. 

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They didn't realize they were 
singing that they were screwing 

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and the and the mic was still 
going and it's recorded and then

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Emma Sam was brings it. 
So like, blackmail somebody? 

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Stop. 
Can we talk about Gina and her 

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absolute enthusiasm for the 
rumor? 

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And she's like, I mean damn. 
Like she's like the millennial 

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are not the. 
Best. 

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Yeah. 
I was going to say, is she not a

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millennial? 
I couldn't. 

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I don't know. 
Yeah. 

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She didn't tell us 10 times. 
We get it. 

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You're young. 
When she made that crack about, 

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I was in the 4th grade when you 
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was like, that's, that's 
unnecessary. 

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I mean, it was 30 years ago 
plus. 

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Yes, it is 30 years ago, but 
like it's just, it was rude. 

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She doesn't do shade very well. 
She's like, oh, look at me, I'm 

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doing shade 000. 
Heather's old old or Chanel 

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well. 
Before we get there because I 

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really like the way Gina handled
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fronted so but. 
But no, I think, yeah. 

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So basically they pick up, they 
talk about. 

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I love the flashback of Terrace 
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the way, I'm having a party, a 
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You're not invited. 
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she actually had a cake for her 
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be invited yes, which that's. 
Gretchen screwed as a person on.

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That yes, yeah, we'll, we'll get
into that case. 

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Tamara's not doing herself any 
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No, no, no. 
I like I, you know. 

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We'll get it there. 
Yeah. 

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We'll get there. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
And then it was the other thing 

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was then Shannon showing up with
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It was pottery art. 
Correct, okay, and they were 

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with broken readers and talking 
about the whole the recording 

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and it was also Heather could so
Shannon could say they were 

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talking smack about you at a 
Temecula. 

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True. 
That's the sole reason for this 

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little broken pottery scene. 
And then the metaphors that just

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like, like came off of Heather 
Zong. 

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Yeah, and then there was, oh, 
Jen and the tattoo with her 

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sign. 
That was scary. 

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That was scary. 
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you know, I guess I don't think 
I think it was maybe nerves and 

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also was he just overheated or? 
Nerves and I I think you know 

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your blood is being manipulated,
you know, and so you know or not

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in your blood, but you know 
it's. 

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It's his first tattoo thing. 
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chest. 
It wasn't above his heart 

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though, was it? 
It was kind of above his heart. 

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I. 
Guess OK, because it was on the 

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left side, yeah. 
Yeah, but you know, I don't 

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know. 
I don't, I don't know if you 

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know this, but I'm not a doctor.
I don't I don't know if this 

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works. 
I even play one on TVI. 

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Don't even play 1 on TV. 
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the bedroom. 
Really sorry. 

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Playing Doctor Joe had to make 
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Sorry. 
But yeah, I have to imagine that

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it's all somehow related. 
I I haven't the only person I 

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ever saw kind of go down for the
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And it was we were at the gym 
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the stairs and he'd clearly like
worked out way too hard on empty

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stomach and we were walking and 
and that's what kind of what 

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that reminded me of because he'd
like looked like Dawson was 

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started convulsing and stuff. 
Yeah, so he was shaking like he 

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was like having a seizure. 
Yeah, that was really scary. 

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But like, it was very similar 
when Kevin started passing out 

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because like we were talking and
then he just started saying 

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gibberish to me and yeah. 
And I was like, are you OK? 

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And like, he just stopped 
responding and was like totally 

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glassy eyed and then just kind 
of Star Trek style, like fell 

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down to his knees like clunk. 
And then like while he was on 

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his knees, like passed out and 
leaned backwards and it oh. 

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He didn't fall forward, no. 
Well, and it's also weird 

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because I'm trying to hold up, 
you know, 170 LB person and you 

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know, dead weight is dead 
weight. 

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It's really scary. 
So it was good at least in that 

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scene that clearly tattoo, it 
probably happens a lot of times 

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in a tattoo parlor. 
But so they were equipped the 

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smelling salts at a lollipop, 
you know that all the things for

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sludging and they were equipped 
to handle it. 

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But it's still scary 
nonetheless, especially to I 

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can't imagine watching your kid 
do that, you know, no matter how

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she was. 
Definitely freaking out. 

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I think there was like, it was a
much longer scene because it 

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seemed like a lot of cuts there 
and she was like very 

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disheveled. 
And, you know, it was, it was 

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very scary. 
There there were, I, I feel like

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a dirtbag. 
But every time they showed him 

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shirtless, I was kind of like, 
you know, kind of checking 

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things out a little bit. 
I was like. 

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There was much to check out. 
I'm not being she, I'm just 

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saying like, he's like, not my 
thing, right? 

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And also just a very slight 
young man, right? 

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Right. 
Yeah. 

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But I like that they, they like 
the camera would catch him like 

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at nipple like height, but then 
they would like go 00 and they'd

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zoom in just a little bit like, 
you know, like get the nipples 

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out of the frame. 
Yeah. 

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And like did it like 3 or 4 
times where it was like almost, 

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it was like unnerving almost 
'cause they're just like, it's a

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pretty ordinary shot. 
But then it was just a sudden 

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zoom just to like get get a 
little tighter. 

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And I was like OK, weird. 
Thing he's 1819. 818 or 19? 

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Yeah, he looks just like I 
forget how many sons she have 

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and they all have like son in 
their name, Harrison Grayson and

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Dawson, a lot of sons. 
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interesting that she said that 
her ex Will sat down with the 

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kids and said that guy Ryan is 
the one is the reason why you 

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and my and your mother, you, me 
and. 

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My mother. 
While your mother and I are not 

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together anymore, so not denied 
by Jen, you know no judgement 

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but. 
I thought a bit more like I, I 

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thought they were making more of
the point that like he kind of 

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started to poison the apple. 
Well, I thought it was more so 

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like what we've heard, you know,
from Tamara and any that they, 

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oh, maybe Tamara that they would
go. 

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Oh. 
Will and got together, Ryan and 

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Jen, Will and Jen, and it was 
just like she was obviously 

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cheating on Will. 
See, I didn't even I didn't even

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connect that. 
I thought it was more like they 

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were bringing it up to explain 
kind of that it was douchey of 

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him to be like trying to poison 
her kids against her. 

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Be like, oh, and that's Ryan. 
Well, mainly about Ryan. 

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But still, it's the choice that 
she made, you know, so. 

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Well, it's the choice she made 
and she's not great at making 

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choices. 
So it's Ryan like sleep 2.0. 

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True. 
I love how that one son was just

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like, I love the guy, I said. 
Whoa, whoa, that's going a 

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little bit too far. 
Yeah, yeah, that's like he's 

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your friend and step preacher. 
Step out of death, everyone 

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there. 
Jen and Ryan been together. 

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I mean, she's, this is her. 
Couple of seasons. 

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This is her third season. 
Third season, so they. 

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Were together at the start of 
her. 

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Yeah, at least a year before 
that probably, right. 

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So it's been a while. 
And, and if we have to guess, 

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probably even a little longer 
than that. 

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So it could be up to five years,
I guess. 

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Nothing to sneeze at. 
I just, I would like to hear 

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more so from Will because it's 
very skewed, you know, and I'm 

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just curious to see his point of
view and not that maybe he 

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wasn't the best husband, but 
maybe she wasn't the best wife. 

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It's going to be equal. 
I don't know, but it's just, 

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it's just so again, I don't 
think she's always a reliable 

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narrator, right, Or good at 
memory. 

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So. 
When Will shows up on the an 

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episode of The Edge then we'll 
know. 

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Then I don't know. 
Something shady is going. 

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Honey, I think even Terra 
wouldn't cross that line because

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she'd be accused of like just. 
Engineering that. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So then where does that leave us

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at the party now or is there? 
Oh. 

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Actually before like. 
Gina went to return a dress. 

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We already mentioned that, 
right? 

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Pick up a new one. 
Just can I just swap these out? 

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The Emily situation with her 
son, Oh yeah, yeah. 

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Not knowing he, I mean a lot of 
things going on with dyslexia, 

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ADHADHD. 
Those haircuts, yeah, maybe 

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those are trendy haircuts for 
kids their age. 

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I don't know. 
Yeah, I think you know. 

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They weren't. 
They weren't. 

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I mean, we were like, they're 
fine. 

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Yeah, They were models. 
Exactly. 

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It doesn't matter. 
Like if they were like, you 

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know? 
It was given. 

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It was given me like oh God, 
what's his name? 

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Tommy Lee Jones Too faced cause 
from one side it looked 

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completely normal. 
The other side shaved. 

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I was like, oh, OK, so. 
But yeah, it's a lot going on in

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the ill, in the eating disorder 
situation. 

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And he is not autistic, but 
exhibits certain, certain 

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traits. 
It was a lot going on. 

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And it just, you know, again, 
this whole thing of like, what 

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could I have done? 
Should I have taken it in 

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sooner? 
And, you know, you feel bad for 

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her that she, you know, is going
through this and you know. 

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It was interesting to hear. 
Her navigate it to hear. 

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Her say that, you know, Shane 
kind of shifted his approach on 

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things once they went to therapy
and like the therapist said, you

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know, maybe this isn't the best 
course for him and you know, 

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it's good to hear that he's 
responding properly. 

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That was interesting. 
Better to it. 

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That the other twin and she's 
like, I don't know if he's going

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therapy because he needs it or 
because he is like, hey, I'm 

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here too, right, right. 
You know, so everyone going. 

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On everyone can use therapy 
whether they need it or not. 

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I'm sure there's a benefit to 
it. 

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Yeah, it was just like, it's an 
it's, you know, the fact that 

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they're in the 4th grade, It's 
it's sad that they have to, you 

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know, right. 
But hopefully it's helps. 

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It helps. 
So sure. 

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There, Oh, there's a scene where
Tamara telling Eddie about the 

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whole situation and him just 
being like, what the hell? 

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At this point, I'm sure Eddie's 
like, why? 

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Why? 
No, Why do we even, like, try 

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with these people? 
Like, Eddie is Todd from Salt 

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Lake. 
Like, why would you be friends 

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with these people? 
Why is Shannon coming to our 

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house? 
Yeah. 

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Which takes me to me to Shannon.
This whole Shannon, Tamara's 

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juvenile. 
Tamara Da da da Tamara can dish,

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but she can't take it. 
None of you can dish it and take

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it. 
You all are hypersensitive, this

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idea that, you know, Tamara, 
which will get to the whole 

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thing, which I don't like 
something that Tamara did, but 

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like, just Shannon just like 
kept like jumping in like, yeah,

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that. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I'm like, I don't need the 
peanut gallery, but door. 

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I really don't just sit there. 
Eat your cake, show the nice big

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boobs and call a day. 
And then she was like, now I'm 

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gonna get in trouble. 
Yeah. 

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You knew what you were doing, 
right? 

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Exactly what you're doing. 
And I love that, Gina said. 

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So yes, the party happens. 
I don't know if it was a good 

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thing or a bad thing that Emily 
told Tamara before the party as 

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she's setting up for the party. 
I mean, that's one of the 

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situations where, like, you feel
like, you feel like this isn't 

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going to go poorly. 
Like, I'm going to say this. 

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She's going to, you know, I'm 
going to have her understand 

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that like, yeah, it's a concern 
of mine, but like, you know, 

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it's not like my biggest 
concern. 

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And she'd be able to smooth it 
over. 

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But then Tamara just went off 
the handle. 

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I think it's good. 
I don't know about the timing of

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it, but it's good that she said 
something before somebody else 

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said it, IE Gretchen true and 
that she used the exact words I 

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said I don't trust you because 
she sugar coated and said like I

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feel uncomfortable or I'm not. 
I am a reluctant to certain 

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things to you. 
Say I don't trust you as my 

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feelings, like Heather did. 
Yeah. 

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Which is still accurate. 
I. 

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Yeah, no, it's just, it's just 
dopey. 

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But no, I'm Tamra. 
Like I don't, I don't hear you. 

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And Tamra still didn't hear the 
story about the dad. 

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She still dismissed it. 
We'll get there. 

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But like, I, I don't know. 
So yeah, I'm glad that she said 

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everything verbatim and she 
wanted to talk it out. 

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I don't think she thought that 
Tamra would have such a visual 

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reaction and feel so betrayed. 
But also Tamra's in a shaky 

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place with what's going on, you 
know, at that time of filming. 

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So, and to to us, it makes 
perfect sense. 

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Like, let's talk this out. 
Like, why don't you feel that 

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you you can trust me with your 
personal stuff? 

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Why are you are you electing to 
to share like let's but has? 

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Tamara ever really been someone 
who would sit down and listen to

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a conversation like that without
starting to shout and scream 

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like that seems to be the issue 
that she's always had and why 

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she says she needs to go to 
therapy is to learn how to kind 

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of like. 
Well, it's two things that like,

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yeah, control the anger and also
not locking down and not letting

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people in. 
So that's the thing with 

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friendship. 
It's like you have to be able to

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hear certain things you don't 
necessarily want, don't want to 

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hear from your friend, but like,
let's talk it out and get to a a

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good place. 
But she puts down the wall. 

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That's exactly what she did with
Emily. 

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She put down the wall. 
I feel so betrayed, you know, 

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wouldn't engage, have an actual 
conversation and then stormed 

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out. 
So I don't know what she'd do 

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with that, and I wish she 
wouldn't have kept storming out.

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Yeah. 
That's really. 

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Quitting. 
Even just throwing around the 

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whole idea of quitting like you.
Only get one quit per season 1 

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folk. 
Quit. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, and and you know, even if 

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she's. 
Not so quick, but like, you 

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know. 
But even if she's, you know, 

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starting to realize or grasp at 
like, you know, having to 

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navigate the show and. 
Therapy. 

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Therapy and. 
A Teddy situation. 

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And that perhaps her mental 
health and the show don't help 

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one another. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like she's not going to get, as 
long as she keeps having to like

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go in and out of, you know, 
things for the show, She's not 

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necessarily going to improve in 
her mental health journey. 

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Like they're just going to keep 
being a not a burden, but you 

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know. 
It's hard. 

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It must be very hard to like, be
on like this for like 4 months 

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and yeah and like, yeah. 
But I see, I totally, and I 

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think you probably do too. 
I see. 

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I'm starting to see what the 
other women find so frustrating 

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and why they keep bringing up 
the double standard. 

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She can dish it out, but you 
can't take it. 

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So it's you know where it's like
at least when Tamara tries to 

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bring something to the women, 
the other women will hear most 

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time will hear her out and like 
try to like refute what she's 

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saying, whereas Tamara just 
denies it and shuts down and 

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refuses to talk about it. 
Which how are you supposed to 

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have a conversation about it 
when that's how someone goes? 

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So but you know, seeing how. 
Seeing her react this way and at

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least having her and that's what
it is. 

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Like you don't want to force 
someone to have a conversation 

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they're not willing to have. 
But like, what else? 

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What else are you going to do at
this point? 

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And so it's kind of. 
And it happened on camera, so 

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she's going to see it 
eventually. 

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That's what I'm saying. 
It's good that Emily said 

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something beforehand before 
somebody else said it. 

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And I don't think she was wrong 
in her feelings. 

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No, because she's seen how she 
saw how close Shannon and Tamra 

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were, and then once they had a 
falling out, like everything 

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came out on Tamra Zen about 
every horrible thing that you 

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could think of. 
Oh yeah, and Shannon last 

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season, yeah. 
So you see that and you're like,

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maybe I don't tell her things, 
you know, maybe I don't get too 

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close, maybe I keep it surface. 
But for her, I think she thought

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the people I'm closest with on 
right now in the in the best 

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place with Aunt Emily and 
Heather. 

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So that hear that from them is 
just rough. 

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So their feelings are valid. 
But I also understand like why 

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she didn't take it well. 
She couldn't receive it and 

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like. 
And also that they. 

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Would sink in. 
Also, they're doing it behind 

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her back, you know, kind of as a
kind of gossip and like. 

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Gretchen No laughs. 
Yeah, I'm sure that didn't. 

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Yeah, good. 
But but at the same time, like 

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she needs to listen. 
Like the one thing that like I 

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took away from a lot of her 
reaction. 

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I think more so when Heather had
the conversation with her 

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because Emily kind of did the 
same thing. 

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Like Emily was just kind of like
we got to talk about this. 

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Then when Tamara started acting 
like a child, I think Emily did 

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too. 
And like they both were just 

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sitting there pouting, 
decorating a cake. 

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Slapping stuff on your cake 
sucks. 

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And yeah. 
Yeah. 

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And then yeah, for Tamara to be 
like, Emily's cake's awful. 

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Like, oh, for God's sake, knock 
it off. 

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But I don't, I, I, I'm 
embarrassed for Tamara and the 

448
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,920
fact that, like, Heather had to 
start talking to her like a 

449
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,640
child, like you're not in a 
place to hear this now. 

450
00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:58,200
We'll have to talk about this 
later. 

451
00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,560
Like it's, it's, I'm very 
sensitive to that because I just

452
00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,480
hate it when people are like, 
you're hungry. 

453
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:04,760
You should eat something you 
know. 

454
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,360
Well, that's like that's like 
Heather's tone all the time, 

455
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:08,960
though, right? 
But everyone because she's 

456
00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,080
condescending, she's. 
Staring. 

457
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,480
And she just says that's what 
Gina meant to say. 

458
00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,080
Yeah. 
It's not that I don't think that

459
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,680
you're funny, it's that I think 
you're condescending as hell. 

460
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:18,160
Let's move it to that for a 
second. 

461
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:25,280
So she that's so butthurt about 
that whole acting thing, just 

462
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,400
like she did two seasons ago 
when Taylor brought it up about 

463
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:32,680
her IMDb for the 1900s. 
So I think in this case, I think

464
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:37,120
part of it is like, if they're 
such good friends like you and I

465
00:22:37,120 --> 00:22:40,600
know that she was on a sitcom. 
I've seen of the clip of her 

466
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,600
from like married children. 
Right. 

467
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:47,160
And whether you were in the 4th 
grade or not, like you, you know

468
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,640
who your Co workers are. 
You know what they do like 

469
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,400
especially? 
Well, so she rehashed this two 

470
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,160
seasons ago, Yeah. 
So it's like I think in that 

471
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,760
case, I think Heather was 
probably a little bit more just 

472
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,160
like. 
Where are we going through this 

473
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,640
again? 
No, we're just offended that 

474
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,040
like I thought, like, how do you
not know that about me? 

475
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,760
Like we've talked about this? 
Like, do you just like anytime I

476
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,880
talk about my career, do you 
just like write it off and like,

477
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,080
ignore it because like, that's 
not who I am right now? 

478
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,200
Well, I think because she's also
sensitive, because she is going 

479
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,480
back to something that she 
hasn't done in a while in a 

480
00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:19,960
class with people who are half 
her age. 

481
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,600
And then she then your friend is
making these age jokes 

482
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,080
interconfessional. 
But so, yeah, I get, you know, 

483
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,640
she's I'm doing this thing. 
I'm not necessarily comfortable 

484
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:31,400
with it. 
Stand up. 

485
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,680
You know what have you 
Gramblings? 

486
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,280
It's tough. 
And I don't need like you 

487
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,280
getting in my head and like, you
know, like amplifying these 

488
00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,320
insecurities I already have. 
So at one hand, I'm like, whoa, 

489
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,720
she's really sensitive. 
But I don't understand. 

490
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,520
I'm like, I get why she's 
sensitive because it's like 

491
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,560
you're saying, why are we going 
to this again? 

492
00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,880
It's a dumb conversation, you 
know? 

493
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,680
And so when Gina got her back 
up, like, I don't, I think Gina 

494
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,760
was making the point that like, 
Tamara can say whatever you 

495
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,960
want, but like, I say it and, 
you know, it's it's wrong. 

496
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,400
Like different rules. 
And it's like, yeah, because 

497
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,960
she's a little closer to Tamara 
than she is to you. 

498
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,480
I. 
Also, I also wonder if Heather 

499
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,120
thinks that Gina's genuinely 
funny and so I think that's more

500
00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:15,960
of like a. 
Oh. 

501
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,440
She's upset that Game doesn't 
recognize Game, so to speak. 

502
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:24,040
She is funny sometimes I think, 
but she definitely is. 

503
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,800
I feel like she's trying. 
Oh for sure, but I think of the 

504
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,920
group, I think that Gina and 
Emily are probably like the two 

505
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,400
funniest. 
Like they're definitely Lucy and

506
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:33,600
Ethel. 
Yeah, they're definitely the 

507
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,080
Comic Relief of. 
Right, because they don't 

508
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,320
necessarily have the dark. 
Right. 

509
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:41,200
And so I think in the day-to-day
when they're filming, I'm sure 

510
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:42,760
they're the ones who are like, 
well, what do I care? 

511
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:44,080
And Emily's like, give me a 
Taco. 

512
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,120
You know, they're always kind of
like different about things, 

513
00:24:46,120 --> 00:24:49,000
right? 
So I think that, you know, I, I 

514
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,880
could see, and I'm probably, I'm
definitely just applying my own 

515
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,640
judgement here is that Heather 
is probably like, well, she's so

516
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,800
easygoing and fun. 
Like, how could she not think 

517
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,240
that I'm funny, you know, and. 
And also too, whether it's 

518
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:04,480
acting or not, like Heather is 
also like goes for comedy inter 

519
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,920
professionals, right? 
So I mean, it was just it was a 

520
00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,280
weird thing to bring up and to 
like kind of double down on. 

521
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,440
And then she's like, oh, wait, 
you're going to class, you're 

522
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,080
going to get in there. 
OK, now I'm proud of you. 

523
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:19,200
Right. 
I, I like that they were able to

524
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600
start joking about it, at least 
towards the end where she called

525
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,880
because, you know, I'm So what 
it was like I'm so sincerely 

526
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,200
unfunny or whatever her exact 
words were. 

527
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:28,920
Yeah, Heather was you're. 
My funny friend. 

528
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,120
Yeah. 
Professor was like, now it's 

529
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,480
Heather's my funny friend. 
Yeah. 

530
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,440
So I mean, that that's good. 
I was happy to see that. 

531
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,160
But I was, again, I was happy 
that Gina was like, what? 

532
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:38,320
What do you mean? 
What? 

533
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,400
Like I don't think I don't know 
that you're a comedic actress. 

534
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,200
Like, sorry. 
Like, sorry. 

535
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,720
I didn't know that. 
Like, I like that she was not 

536
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,680
apologizing at first. 
She was just saying, yeah, I 

537
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,240
said that because you don't walk
around like saying, hey, I'm 

538
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,000
going to go star in a comedy 
show, you know? 

539
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,480
Well, they got super heated, 
like they are like getting like 

540
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,600
very close space wise and you 
know, yeah. 

541
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,800
And then I thought there's a bad
time for Gina to be like oh and 

542
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,280
then Tamara can say whatever she
wants because they were about to

543
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,080
RIP each others heads. 
Off exactly. 

544
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,440
It's like, no, now is not the 
time for to say. 

545
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,600
Tamara can say whatever she 
wants, but that was not. 

546
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,080
And that was rough. 
And it was good again that 

547
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,280
Heather was coming back and 
being like, no, you upset me. 

548
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,360
Like, you know. 
Right, the whole New Orleans 

549
00:26:22,360 --> 00:26:24,040
thing, which I thought they like
put that to bed when they went 

550
00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,680
to to lunch and like they had to
allow. 

551
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,240
Here's my problem. 
This is the same this whole like

552
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,000
conflict resolved like OK, I'm 
going to apologize so things 

553
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,040
move forward. 
You can tell some of the times 

554
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,840
people are still pissed off 
about it. 

555
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,200
So this whole idea of 
apologizing for the sake of 

556
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,920
moving on never works. 
And This is why every people get

557
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,000
the the bad rap of like you're 
just going to bring this up 

558
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,160
later when you're actually 
pissed off because you're never 

559
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,880
got over it. 
That's why I much rather just 

560
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,720
get it out of the way, talk 
about it, figure it out, and 

561
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,000
then that way later on the 
chances of me bringing it up and

562
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,800
still being pissed off about it 
are like it's considerably less.

563
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,920
Right, right. 
As you've learned in seven years

564
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,360
of of being with me, eight 
years. 

565
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:15,160
I wanted to pivot again, pivot 
to Jen and her bad messiness. 

566
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:16,920
Which which? 
Which one? 

567
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,800
Is with the following the pop 
star. 

568
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,880
Oh, like girl, first of all, she
gets so gaslighty and indignant 

569
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,640
with Tamara. 
Like why are you coming at me? 

570
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,560
Why do you have screenshots? 
I love Tamara or Tamara's 

571
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,600
responsive. 
I print it out because I'm old. 

572
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,000
That was her confessional. 
Unfortunate. 

573
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:32,520
Yeah, but no. 
But. 

574
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,040
It was, said it, but it was. 
Him yes, but that was good. 

575
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,160
But this whole like what do you 
mean like why are you so upset 

576
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:39,000
about this? 
Why can't I? 

577
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,280
I can follow whoever I want and 
then her confessional she says I

578
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,400
wanted to do it so he made me 
would tell me something then 

579
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,360
slide into his DMS like a normal
person girl like you don't like 

580
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:53,080
make it so obvious that you're 
now following him and don't 

581
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:55,000
like. 
Get upset when you're called on 

582
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,400
it, because that's exactly. 
What you're doing, she was doing

583
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,560
a Gretchen move of like trying 
to like get some dirt, and she 

584
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,120
did it in a crappy way because 
she's not good at this. 

585
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,880
That's not her housewife's 
string. 

586
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,600
No, no, no. 
Not at all. 

587
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,280
And it just it bugged me that 
this whole like, I'm I can 

588
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,480
follow whoever I want. 
I'm the innocent here. 

589
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,560
Like that just showed right 
there. 

590
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,760
When someone shows you who they 
really are, believe them. 

591
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,160
Like we know who Jen really is 
and there's dough in the woods. 

592
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,840
Like, I'm so sweet. 
It's not who she totally is, 

593
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:28,560
Right, Right. 
And I'm ready for that to come 

594
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,680
out. 
And I think Katie, hopefully the

595
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,600
reunion, like, really drags that
out. 

596
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,120
I was like, Oh no, no, no. 
Can we talk about how Emily 

597
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:38,760
starts freaking out about oh? 
I forgot, yeah, but. 

598
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,400
Kate, Tamara's and sit down with
Katie next week. 

599
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,320
Right on the trailer and Tamara 
brought it up that it was gonna 

600
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:46,000
happen. 
And this should brought up in 

601
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:47,880
the rather than saying it right 
the fact. 

602
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:49,840
But the fact that Emily was 
like, you know, you're gonna sit

603
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,720
down with someone who hurt her, 
who would hurt her. 

604
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:55,080
And then again, Tamara brought 
it up in a confessional later. 

605
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,200
Tamara should have said and 
could have said, you're all 

606
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,720
sitting down with Gretchen, who 
keeps doing this to me. 

607
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,640
Like why is that any different? 
Gretchen, who according to 

608
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,120
Heather, doesn't lie. 
She believes her truth, which is

609
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,760
just like that's and like Tamara
pointed out, are you saying 

610
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000
that's what Katie does? 
She lies so much she believes 

611
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,640
the lie and thinks it's her 
truth, Right. 

612
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,920
Like it isn't. 
That was a double standard, 

613
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,600
like, and the whole like Emily's
saying she hurt my family. 

614
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,040
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, your
family's fine. 

615
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,440
Your family's doing other issues
that Katie did not 'cause so 

616
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,000
focus on those issues and not 
what Katie's daughter said on a 

617
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:31,600
podcast. 
Like you're OK in that respect, 

618
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,880
right? 
So but no, she got really upset 

619
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,560
and was like now I'm upset and 
it's like. 

620
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,080
Well, I, I'm wondering, I'm sure
that was also like, I'm looking 

621
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,520
for a reason to be pissed off at
you now because I stepped in 

622
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,200
earlier again. 
Now we're even Stevie. 

623
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,720
I am so. 
It doesn't work that way. 

624
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,800
I think overall, like the whole 
party at the end, I think 

625
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:55,040
definitely Heather was, I did, I
think it was the best of getting

626
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,000
through to Tamara at least a 
little bit, even though it 

627
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640
doesn't seem that way. 
I think they'll recover and like

628
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,000
well. 
They're fine now we see. 

629
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Yeah, but I. 
I think Heather, I mean, Heather

630
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,560
is like, we should talk about it
later as much as Tamara's being 

631
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,800
a little baby about it. 
I mean, like, yeah, whatever. 

632
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,200
Just like they will sit down, 
they will talk about it, and 

633
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,800
that's probably the right thing 
to do. 

634
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,000
I think with Tamara, it's like, 
like I said, you should sit down

635
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,160
out or at that moment had the 
conversation, but she needed to 

636
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,000
digest it. 
Hearing the people she was 

637
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:25,720
closest to on the cast didn't 
feel the same about her when 

638
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,000
she's going through other crap 
and having Gretchen take her 

639
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:32,560
down just two days ago. 
So yeah, they need to give her a

640
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,200
bit of space like but the whole 
I don't agree with her like 

641
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,360
quitting 10 times in the 
episode. 

642
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,720
Have a great season. 
I can't do this anymore. 

643
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:45,320
It's like, no, no, no, no. 
Like keep it all inside. 

644
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,520
You say that to Eddie, he talks 
you off the ledge, as does 

645
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,640
Teddy, and then you come back 
the next day for filming. 

646
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,080
Right. 
And also like, yeah, you might 

647
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,640
be feeling like this is the 
worst thing you're ever gone 

648
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,640
through in your life. 
But like also, don't you know, 

649
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,280
there could worse things could 
be happening And like, I don't 

650
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,640
know, I just feel like she's 
keeps leaning on this. 

651
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,360
Everything horrible is happening
to her, as though horrible 

652
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:11,880
things don't happen to everyone 
else. 

653
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,240
Right, right. 
It's like, and it does come 

654
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,720
through a little selfishy of 
like, you know, I'm going 

655
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,000
through the worst things of my 
life and you're not helping me. 

656
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,160
And it's like, OK, well, I'm not
necessarily. 

657
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,160
I'm not on this earth to help 
you, Tamara. 

658
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,400
Right. 
But if you're my friend like you

659
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,440
know I. 
Can either for you, but you're a

660
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,760
bit. 
More grace, I think it's what 

661
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,080
you're trying to agree. 
Agreed. 

662
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:40,920
So yeah, 'cause I think there's 
more deeper stuff. 

663
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,200
I think the combination of like 
the therapy and the show and 

664
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,560
Teddy is just a really horrible 
concoction. 

665
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,600
I I think the for her. 
And I hope that in Season 20 

666
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,440
that you know she will do 
better. 

667
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:59,080
Right, you had pointed out that 
Bravo Con does not have an OC 

668
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,360
panic. 
Right. 

669
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,920
And I was like, things start. 
I was probably laying in bed at 

670
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,640
3:00 in the morning, like 
wondering, like, oh, I wonder 

671
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,280
we're going to do. 
But I wonder. 

672
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,680
They have to be planning 
something major for the 20th 

673
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,920
season, bringing people back or 
doing all sorts of different 

674
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,120
things like it's not. 
I can't imagine it's just gonna 

675
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,320
be business as usual like it 
will be for somebody. 

676
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,080
I think there's actually maybe 
it might be 1 of like the watch 

677
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:28,400
what happened lives episodes 
might be centered around OC OK, 

678
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,280
because of course you know. 
Oh, because they yeah, yeah, 

679
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,160
yeah, you're right. 
One of the live episodes. 

680
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Yeah, yeah. 
So I think, you know, they're 

681
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000
gonna have, I don't know, like 
everyone divided to bravo. 

682
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,120
Con they did that with Vicki the
two years ago they brought out 

683
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,840
the OG the. 
Lifetime achievement. 

684
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
Yeah, yeah, life. 
Lifetime achievement, which 

685
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,240
candy's getting it this year. 
Oh, very nice. 

686
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,880
So, yeah. 
So yeah, I think there will be 

687
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,560
some acknowledgement because I 
don't think they will be. 

688
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,240
They'll be a Bravo con next 
year. 

689
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,280
Should we get some tickets to 
that show? 

690
00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,840
I mean, you got that bonus 500 
accounts. 

691
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,600
I mean, come on, let's spend 
that money. 

692
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:08,560
Oh, that money's done, Spits. 
It's called the Amex, Yeah. 

693
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,320
It wasn't that big of a bonus. 
I it wasn't it would not be 

694
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,000
enough to cover 2 tickets to 
watch. 

695
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,120
It happens. 
No, not at all. 

696
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,000
Not even the nosebleeds. 
No. 

697
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:18,880
I wonder if there's anything 
available. 

698
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,640
I mean, we're already doing so 
much. 

699
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:22,880
I don't know if we need to do 
watch It Happens live. 

700
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,440
Maybe we just do Barry Manilow. 
Oh God. 

701
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,800
I mean, I'm not saying this to 
be mean, but we don't know how 

702
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,400
many years we'll have with Barry
and he's going to be in Vegas if

703
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,720
there's some cheap tickets. 
My problem is it's an. 

704
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:37,880
Experience. 
It is. 

705
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,040
It is for sure. 
But then my problem is like when

706
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,800
we went and saw Patti LaBelle, 
it was a little. 

707
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,080
It was an off night. 
I think she has better in her. 

708
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,880
I mean, that's the problem is I 
just don't, I don't know, like 

709
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,880
I, I would wonder like if we 
taking even away from Patty. 

710
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,280
Let's just say it let's we went 
and saw Madonna right now, 

711
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,360
right? 
We'd be like, is this Madonna at

712
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,400
her best? 
Well, you know, that's why we 

713
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,920
didn't jump to go see Madonna 
right when she was touring. 

714
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Was that two years ago? 
I. 

715
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,160
Think so. 
Yeah. 

716
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,400
I think I'd much rather have 
Barry Manilow in my head as just

717
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,120
the Barry Manilow from the Seven
cabana, that is. 

718
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,600
Yeah. 
And like, just let him live 

719
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,120
eternally like that, you know, 
maybe Barry Manilow from the 

720
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,360
Will and Grace fan of it. 
So that that I'll do. 

721
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,920
But we'll talk more about that 
though. 

722
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,520
Chris Prynne. 
It. 

723
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,920
Yeah, RIP. 
Yeah, now if it was like Barry 

724
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,000
Manilow and what's his face 
performing together? 

725
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,159
Johnny Mathis. 
No. 

726
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,440
Who's the other big Las Vegas 
guy? 

727
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,440
Oh, Wayne Newton. 
Wayne Newton. 

728
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:39,320
Yeah, Wouldn't that? 
I don't. 

729
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,679
Even know don't I even know any 
Wayne Newton songs? 

730
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,840
Only thing I know about Wayne 
Newton is that Balky was 

731
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,560
obsessed with him on 
persecutors. 

732
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:52,400
He's like Wayne Newton. 
Yeah, pretty good. 

733
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,159
Huh. 
So I know why. 

734
00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:57,680
Like he's, I was thinking. 
I don't think he does it like a 

735
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,240
sack with Barry Williams. 
Get out of here with Barry 

736
00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:02,960
Williams. 
Barry and Barry. 

737
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,480
You mean like Barry Brady? 
I was like, why would Barry 

738
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,440
Williams have? 
AI don't know he might sing. 

739
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,800
They sing on the Brady Bunch. 
I don't know. 

740
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,200
There was a variety special. 
Oh, who knows. 

741
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:20,840
But yes, it is interesting that 
there's no OC panel and I 

742
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,280
wonder. 
I think they're all going to be 

743
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:27,320
there though, and so just a 
different, different panels. 

744
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,040
Right, right. 
Different combinations? 

745
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Well, we'll see. 
Yeah. 

746
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,680
Did we cover that on the show? 
Was there any more? 

747
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,360
I am looking forward to you 
died. 

748
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,200
I know I saw that and that's 
back. 

749
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,240
I'm looking forward to seeing 
Katie. 

750
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,400
I think Tamara again is going to
be on the right side of history.

751
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,960
I am not looking forward to more
of Gretchen Slade and Gretchen, 

752
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,880
like chasing out. 
That's just gross. 

753
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:56,480
I'm singing now. 
I'll say it next week. 

754
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:57,760
Gross. 
Yeah. 

755
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,480
Grocers. 
The whole like you better run 

756
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,560
like they're just like what? 
As though she's like. 

757
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,920
Well, she has run out of a lot 
of things, but maybe it's, I can

758
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,760
either run or I could, you know,
come up at you. 

759
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:13,800
And by the way, Shannon, Tamara 
didn't grab Gretchen's wrist. 

760
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,360
Gretchen grabbed Tamara's wrist,
right? 

761
00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:18,680
It's a, there's a difference. 
It's a very big difference. 

762
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,960
But no, it's like, let me walk 
away or I'm gonna come and like 

763
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:23,800
out swinging. 
Not that I think that Tamara 

764
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,800
would really like, like, come 
out sweet. 

765
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,200
No, I think she might just get a
really a fingernail really close

766
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,480
to someone's eye. 
Clap. 

767
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,560
Well, she'd throw punch in not 
this Gina, but the other Gina's 

768
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,000
face. 
Jackie O right. 

769
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,640
Napkins, punk napkins. 
Yes. 

770
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Can't trust. 
So there's no object. 

771
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,640
You're fine. 
She's not going to like actually

772
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,520
like beat you with her fists, 
right, right. 

773
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,960
But if there's a napkin 
available. 

774
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,440
Something soft or wet she might 
She might come at you with it. 

775
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:56,360
So OK, well, that was an 
exciting show. 

776
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,480
It was. 
And I'll say one last thing, you

777
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,240
know, I love the cake making 
aspect of it because I love a 

778
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,440
cake. 
I was so anxious just watching 

779
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,680
it. 
I can't even imagine like being 

780
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:07,520
in that room. 
I would have really, it would 

781
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,520
have really killed my cake vibe,
but I would have taken my cake. 

782
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,320
Home Gina 100 times yes take the
cake no one's downstairs take 

783
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,600
all the cake are. 
You going to leave Tamara with 

784
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,840
like 10 cakes that she's not 
going to eat and she's not going

785
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,920
to eat sugar like that? 
You have kids, take them home, 

786
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,120
let the kids eat them. 
Yeah, would have been fine. 

787
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,880
Made me want to decorate a cake.
But like, I want to decorate a 

788
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,360
cake. 
Like I want to get like the bag 

789
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,680
and everything. 
Like, I liked how they had the 

790
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:34,400
little, you know, florets and 
flourishes and things like I 

791
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,960
want an icing bag. 
Like Sinclair? 

792
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:37,680
Yeah, Sinclair could teach that 
class. 

793
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,560
He taught us how to do a cake, 
Yes, although, you know, we need

794
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,240
the cake spinner. 
That's what that's really. 

795
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:45,240
The That was really cool. 
We should get it, yes. 

796
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,680
Well, we've seen him do it. 
He's spun the thing. 

797
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,520
He has one and you know so. 
He has all the things. 

798
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,640
We need all the things, you 
know, we need bigger house for 

799
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,480
all the things. 
That kitchen is only so big, you

800
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,400
will hold so many gadgets that 
we have. 

801
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,120
That peninsula is overloaded. 
Overloaded. 

802
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,600
When we moved into our house, we
moved in from our apartment in 

803
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,120
the city. 
So it's a one bedroom 1 bath 

804
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,200
apartment. 
Very big kitchen for. 

805
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,960
I know, it was so insanely big. 
When we moved into our kitchen 

806
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,880
here, which as far as like house
kitchens go, it's not a big 

807
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,320
kitchen, but we unloaded 
everything and Jeff just stood 

808
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:20,760
there like with some of the 
cabinets open. 

809
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,040
He's like we have an 
embarrassment of storage and 

810
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,160
like we were like it just we 
were just like, we will never 

811
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,760
fill this kitchen. 
And of course now filled, 

812
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,480
although there is still the 
Maple syrup cabinet, which is 

813
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,520
basically lives. 
Right. 

814
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:34,960
That's not. 
And we could, we could toss 

815
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,320
those bowls, those old bowls, 
and yeah, like that one's, but 

816
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,000
everything else is full. 
The stuff over the fridge, you 

817
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,080
know, with their old plates we 
could do, we could make some 

818
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,480
better use of some of. 
Them we don't need those things.

819
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,080
I don't know why we're we 
should. 

820
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:49,680
Yeah, we probably get rid of 
some of that. 

821
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,280
Yeah, but it's also do like we 
thought we'll never fill this 

822
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,080
garage and now it's totally. 
Well, now that I threw away a 

823
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,760
lot of that paint, we're good. 
We got more space. 

824
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,320
To put more stuff. 
Put more stuff. 

825
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,560
Let's get more stuff. 
Yeah. 

826
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,080
Or a bigger house. 
Yes. 

827
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,600
Yes, all these things, all the 
things. 

828
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,760
All right. 
Well, till next time. 

829
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:06,440
Till next time.
