Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we just watched an episode of The
Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
On a boat. On a boat below deck.
Below deck. Below deck so late?
SLC. SLC.
No, it's good. Do you want to know another fun
fact? This is our hundredth episode of
Season 2. What?
Yeah, I know. That's great episode for us to
be the 100th. Episode, I know technically it's
like our 225th episode or something weird like that
because but anyway, it doesn't matter.
It's still the fact that we've done 100 episodes this year, in
2025 is just that's nutty. Crazy in our year of the lower
2025. I know that's just so weird.
So I think it should also bear mentioning again.
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So anyway, this episode of Salt Lake.
It was wild. It was, you know, it was funny
watching it from the perspective of the Below Deck people.
Yeah, we'll get more of that when the season premieres for
them. We'll have to actually watch,
but they're just like they're killing each other, like what is
happening and it's like, oh, it's just another stuff.
They act as though they've never seen a Real Housewives show.
Like I don't think they have I think on of them.
I know they're on the network, but I don't think that they it's
one thing to know about it. It's one thing to beat in it.
Like imagine being in that fight where like Lisa Bartlett is
flipping her hair 10,000 times around Sunday.
Like, no, it's just that. No, it's just that you bet.
You better have my back. You better have my back.
I can't. I like she's just so like.
Yeah, she was. ACT made it on.
Yourself, honey. Yeah, yourself.
Well, she was very irritated about something.
I can't imagine what, but we have to start back on.
They weren't even they they. They get right to the boat.
Well, I mean they still we have to see them flying and stuff I
mean. Right.
It was like the airport. Yes, they always need that.
It's always so funny to see how much baggage people, literal and
figurative baggage they travel with.
Like really is Mary? She have so many outfits she
must and she's like why are my backs so heavy?
Well, cuz she packed them to the gills.
Yeah. I mean, I think it's interesting
that that's normally a situation where an other housewife shows.
They'd be like, well, isn't someone gonna bring these in for
me? Like they would have like a
Porter or something every. Every feels like every
housewives show when they're at at the airport, it's always them
bringing their own bags in interesting like to the airport.
They might get someone like help them out of the car, of course
from the trunk, but they are like really Wheeling to let the
check in right. And it's just funny for us to we
do not check bags. Yeah, I don't.
I would just hate it. Wasn't it Travis who was saying
he checks bags? Oh, I was on one of the episodes
of Bestie Approved. I was listening.
Oh like he purposely checks the bags?
Like he and Emma believe in checking bags.
Like they want to roam freely through the airport with no no
baggage. Just I don't know that feeling
and I don't want to know that feeling.
I do not want to wait at my destination to pick up my bag to
watch. Something spin around.
I lost bags twice. I don't want to have it to
happen again, even when we go to Bravo Con in two weeks, two
weeks from Thursday. But we will just share a single
bag, yeah. I'd much rather carry on and be
on my way. But that's also mainly because
the Oakland airport which I would fly in and out of for work
a lot. They are small airport but it
takes forever for the luggage to load.
The few times I had to check a bag I'm like never again.
And especially when you're travelling for work, when all
you want to do is get out of the airport and go home, you're just
like, I don't want to wait 45 minutes for my damn bag.
And I'll be so irate if we get that.
If anyone wants to volunteer, no, I don't want to volunteer.
You will take this bag out of my cold dead hands.
Well, we're on Southwest, so they're not going to do that.
OK, so we will find out. I was going to say if we were on
the other on Alaska I might upgrade us to 1st class.
It's funny I've seen some other people on TikTok who were
traveling and they're like it's weird.
I checked for my flight and they're like do you want to
upgrade for $45.00? I was like.
Never happened there. Yes, when we fly, maybe not for
Thanksgiving, but next time we fly Alaska, if that comes up,
we're doing it because it's just delightful.
It's delightful. I'll experience at one time.
Who would you want to sit next to on a flight?
Wouldn't be Brittany, I'll tell you that much.
That was, I guess, because Heather brought her on the show.
She deserved it. But of those ladies which I
have, Whitney, probably. Same.
Whitney. Whitney.
Yeah. That'd be a good flight should.
Be fun and easygoing and like let you sleep when you wanted
to. Sleep.
Exactly. And she would just be, yeah,
wouldn't be all up in your business at the airports when we
find out that Bronwyn is not going to be making the flight
with them. And they're like, you know, it's
so interesting to see, especially by the end of the
episode where they're just all just losing their shit.
It's interesting. And in previous episodes of
where they just pile on whoever has the headlines going.
It's really interesting to see it kind of how sensitive they
were at the beginning of the episode about like, well, I
mean, is she going to? I mean, I wouldn't show like
they were being very matter of fact about the whole.
Situation, right? Let's let her talk about it.
You know, we don't want to actually, we don't want to have
a repeat of what happened with Lisa.
And I'm surprised Lisa wasn't like, oh really?
So when but it with me. You're right, You know, I'll
give her that one thing. Yeah, she didn't get that same
that respect, but that consideration.
Yes, yes. It, it seemed to me that maybe
perhaps while they were at the airport, even though they knew,
you know, the cameras were there, they were just kind of
like, we're not really at work yet.
We haven't clocked in yet. We're at the airport.
We'll clock in when we get off that plane 15 hours from that
right? Right.
Yeah. So also, yay for Salt Lake
getting to go somewhere. I mean, I know normally it's
like we're going to go to Vegas, so we're going to go to
Wisconsin. Wisconsin.
Oh my gosh. Palm Springs.
And so now they finally, you know, get to go somewhere, I
don't know, legitimate. Wisconsin, that was like, that
was just last season. Was that last season?
Yeah, it was. Right.
First season, yeah. Yeah, so that's crazy.
So instead of Milwaukee, they're going to Below Deck in, I keep
one in say Nevis, but that's Potomac.
That's Potomac. Yeah, yes.
Where are they? There's some other island.
Something with the sea. Yeah.
Hawaiian Calhoun something Let's.
I want you to keep guessing so I can just look it up later.
It sounds right there. You sounded like you're doing.
No, it sounded like you're doing.
Mel speak. You're all Ka Wang Tay in the
wind, Wayne. Was your goodbye Tay in the wind
the Jodie Foster movie 1993 now if you haven't seen.
It 1993? I've never seen it.
Either 3 or 4. I've never seen now.
We have time tomorrow. We have time for so much.
We still need to watch big business one of these days.
We. Do need to watch big business
and yes. Did I share the story on the
podcast about my 12th birthday? Did I?
About beaches, I don't know if you did.
Yeah, real quick. Saying this because like,
Scott's birthday is coming up and we're excited.
And, and I don't know why I was recounting the story about how
when I was 12, like, I had a birthday party where a bunch of
us went to the movies and we went saw Beaches.
It was like 10 of us. And it's really one of those
tell us you're gay without telling us you're gay moments.
But also like, what respect? Like, my mom's dead, rest her
soul. But like what respectable mother
was like, yeah, let's bring the kids to see Beaches.
The 12 year olds, and this is the way that the other 12 year
olds wanted to go. Was it like a mix of guys and
girls? Yeah.
OK, it was. And so my only excuses it was
the 80s. And so it was probably one of
those things where just like, I'll just drop the kids off at
the movies, They'll be fine, you know?
Is that 88? 88 yeah, yeah.
And it really as walking distance to, you know, I mean, a
long walk from my house. But you know, when you're 12 in
the 80s, you could go walk in places.
I mean no one got kidnapped until later right?
So, well, yes, and. Back to Salt Lake.
Beaches. Beaches.
Birthday. It's such a also like, happy
birthday, let's go see a depressing movie.
Well, I mean when we my wings, I've probably been out for a
while since yeah. And then probably thing, and I
mean you forget that was really big with the 12 year old.
When you forget about Mayim Bialik doing a little tap dance
number on the boardwalk. That was where Mayim Bialik was
blossom. But she was still, you know, a
spitting image for a young Bette Midler.
Oh, it was perfect. Yeah, it was perfect casting
Cece. Yeah, Cece.
Yeah, yeah. I haven't seen Beaches in so
long. I think I always see it like
once all the way through. What?
It's one of those movies. You just know it, you know?
Yeah, I think I've still seen it like 9 times at least.
It's one of those movies that also whenever it's on, you'll
watch it. I wouldn't say that I'm like
that with like Lost Boys, but I wouldn't say beaches.
I'm like that with the Poseidon adventure.
Yeah. Especially if you get it before
the boat flips over. It's rare.
Very rare. Anyway, Speaking of boats
flipping over, they get to River Island, which looked like a
weird Hollywood set. It looked very pretty, very
pretty, but was huge like it was.
I want to go on that boat like the luxury despite having to all
share beds. Yeah, I love that.
But you know there's 8 of. Them can we also like Lisa
already right off the bat just being all like Angie's never
been on a yacht. I always.
Do dot and I understand like Angie, like ankle shaming Lisa?
Does she have big ankles? I mean, maybe also I just I feel
like. Is that where she wears those
chunky heels? I feel like Angie just in
general is kind of a tiny person.
Not that Lisa isn't like small framed, but like I yeah, I just
don't. I think that you could probably
hold Angie up to anyone and they would seem gargantuan by
comparison, so. It was a random dig.
It really was unexpected. Yeah, like Lisa being like Angie
poor was one thing, but Angie being like, look at those half
Earth. Ankles.
Yeah, Angie probably got like a those hooves.
Angie got some notes from Adriana in Miami, and Adriana
was like, instead of knees, I'm gonna go for her ankle.
I saw someone in a Haitian mortician costume and Kings of
Bravo posted it. Nice.
A Haitian mortician? He forgot about that, didn't
you, bitch? And you were to get him a coffee
maker. Say what we'll say about Miami.
That was actually a highlight of.
Oh, Adriana, 10 out of 10. Yeah.
So no notes, No notes. Let's sum up the Bronwyn thing,
if we can. I mean, First off, I I know why
does she have to show up in a costume like that every?
Time. It's so dumb.
I love Bronwyn, but I don't need the costume.
And that one I get. Before.
Like I get how it's on. Like it's on on the nose but the
girl sometimes on the nose is too on the nose.
We're like a sailor suit. Right.
Just because you have the perfect outfit doesn't mean you
have to wear it. Not every time.
Yeah, it was a. Little tweety bird too.
The yellow. Yeah, it was a little bit.
And then on top of that, it just like it squished her down in
some places. Not that we didn't get to see
everyone, all the ladies, you know, and their their
voluptuousness later, but like, that was not a flattering thing.
It also gave her that weird 'cause it looked like she's
wearing the rubber ducky life preserver thing.
It just gave her kind of that weird like shape.
It reminded me of like a, like a Miss Maisel, like Peekskill
mountain comedy routine or something.
It just seemed like she was in the middle of some weird, like,
1950s, you know, review. Catskills.
Yes, Catskills, Things of life. I was like.
So still upstate New York, upstate New York somewhere.
But yeah, so the Bronwyn thing, she shows up on a tender later,
they all like wave at her. And then she just basically says
that all the news, that's all the headlines that have been
spilled about her, some of them are really old and irrelevant.
And she completely owns up to not paying her when she was 19.
Yeah, what I got from it was that that she had that eviction
thing when she was 19 and had to leave BYU because she was
pregnant. And then she's evolved with the
case that she can't talk about because it was sealed and she
aided the police and she can't talk about her part in it
because it's sealed. But she does not have any
charges. It's true.
There are no mug shots from Brock and there's no actual like
she stole a car, Grand Theft Auto, identity, whatever.
What it reads to me is that she 100% saved her own ass.
Like she probably did some really shady shit and then she
was just like, well, I'm going to.
Get up, she like turned state witness.
Yeah, she turned witness on whatever.
So they're like all you know, we're not really after you.
We're after whoever it was you were working with and that's why
it's all sealed. Probably for her safety for her,
you know, part in the whole situation.
The mob. Yeah, could have been, I don't
know. But no, it just seems to me like
that. She definitely did something
bad. They had some evidence on her,
and in exchange for her testimony or her cooperation,
they probably, you know, looked the other way or at least gave
her, you know, not a pardon. That's not it.
But you know, the word, I'm the word.
It doesn't matter. A deal?
Yeah, they gave her a. Deal.
Yeah, they gave her a deal. So you know what that is?
I don't really care. And at the same time, like, I
don't know, like, who was it? It was Meredith.
I think it was like, you know, they're talking about, you know,
everyone's talking about who said what, but they're not
saying anything about what, you know, Bronwyn did or didn't do.
And it's just like, OK, that that old yarn.
But Meredith, why are you so quick?
Meredith seemed very quick to believe the things.
And, you know, I don't know. And it's like, yeah, But you're
like, by saying that, you're making it.
I mean, she did say, you know, it's probably worse than it
actually is, But she seemed to want to shuffle it to Bronwyn
and maybe away from her friend Lisa.
Yeah, yeah, that's for sure. So.
I mean, I think the speed at which everyone was very quick
just to like, it has to be Lisa, Like I'm because last week, last
week's episode where Bronwyn was suggesting to Todd that like,
you know, I think it might be Lisa.
Like you and I both were like that seems like a big stretch.
Right, because you're in a good place.
But it's like if you're talking about when she made the case of
when she's with Whitney, of when this thing, when we had our
breakdown and then things started appearing about me and
the press, you know, before the show even aired.
I mean, we're still filming at this point.
It seems a little suspect that you would think that, you know,
Lisa started the ball rolling. And even though they got to a
good spot, Lisa wouldn't have known they were going to get to
a good spot, right? Once you start the ball rolling,
you can't control it. And it's like, even though I
don't hate her like I used to, if you Lisa you still, it's too
late. The cat's out of the bag.
It's the same way on Orange County.
Tamara has already showed those posts about Gretchen to people,
right? And even though technically
they're supposed to be in a better place, the cat's already
out of the bag. This train is.
Leaving the state that come out, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it's definitely. It was just so funny that like
the least, it was like you better not be talking about me
and everyone's like no one's talking about you and even
waiting to be like no one's talking about you, but you look
guilty as hell. Yeah, and why Whitney wants to
chase her around the table and be like, you know, like I'm
going to touch you. It's like what?
What? I don't get that.
But. You know, it's like I'm coming
close. I'm coming close.
There's almost like I'm not touching you, am I bothering
you? I'm not touching you.
Am I healing you? I mean, I just think when it
comes down to it, if if one person says it quacks like a
duck, I'm like, OK. Or Swan.
Or so true in this case, the Swan.
Every single one of those women except Meredith.
Even Meredith is to the point of just being like, well, it could.
It could have been. I mean, there's no, you know.
All I have to say is Heather's eyes that Lisa towards the end
of like really it was just like just her eyes was like really
you're going to do, you're going to sit there and say that I make
really like like two things. If Heather's making it up good
for Heather, I'm not good for Heather, but good honor because
she's being really convincing about it and she got everyone
else. Like in a sense, like I do, I do
feel like Lisa's the way Lisa's reacting, especially towards the
end when she like goes calling John and everything.
It's like she does seem like she's being gas lit a little
bit. Like I'm sure there's an extent
that she's not involved in something, but she's been
involved with everything else. Like I, I just don't know where
she's drawing the line, but I felt a little bit bad for Lisa
in that she was just react, but she's having a reaction.
And I think, you know, especially the worst place to
have a reaction like that is on a boat.
Right. You can't go anywhere, you can't
leave the boat. And you don't want to, like,
start freaking out and like fall off the boat or have a boating
accident. Was on the edge of that like
what was that? Like a a raft or I.
Don't know the edge of the pad dingy.
I was 100. Why are you so close to that and
then when you know? The Whitney.
Brittany. Yeah, Over.
I was like, get away from her. Brittany, you're going to tackle
her. Over.
I mean, I have to say, like for women who say that they are, you
know, listening to each other, like whenever someone says get
away from me, I don't want to be around people don't touch me.
Every single one of them just crosses that boundary.
Like, you sure. You sure?
Yeah. Let me touch you now.
It's like, I literally just told you do not touch me.
Like it. I think that Whitney was OK
where she was, like, I'm going to step near you like she was,
but she didn't actually once or twice.
Maybe she did, but she didn't just like, start touching her
the minute someone said please don't touch me, you know?
So yeah, Brittany, here's what she wants to hear.
But hats off to Brittany for bringing up the for getting to
Meredith's face. Like.
Bronwyn was really messy with that shit, but you know.
Wait, so did we cover everything at the lunch before we move on
to the? Well, I mean who knows the order
of things. It all just got so messy.
It was basically like Lisa freaking out.
Then they went swimming. Angie got really sick throwing a
lot of Angie barfing. Have you ever been seasick?
No, thankfully. I've had altitude sickness,
which is not fun. And that was when I was
travelling from Denver to Cheyenne, WY, to look at movie
theaters. And that's probably the closest
I've ever come to just like any sort of bodily, like just,
you're sick for no reason and it is miserable because you're just
dizzy and you're like, I can't figure out why.
Like, like on a boat at least, OK, things are moving, but just
your body starts to betray you in such a weird way.
And you're just like, I, I'm you have no control.
It's just such a weird feeling. I ended up outside the library
in Cheyenne, WY, like sitting in a rental car with the door open,
just barfing into the gutter like every every few minutes.
So it was really nasty. So I have, I have a lot of
sympathy for for Angie and her. She just looks so miserable and
just like clutching on to like that dude face and like, I'm
gonna yeah. It's not a fun feeling.
No, it's not cool. So.
So yeah, then they get into, well, then they, you know, pull
understand, like what they hoped to gain by bringing Meredith
into the conversation. As if this is a Meredith two
seasons ago. OK, this is Meredith currently
I'm on team Lisa. We are bonded together and.
Whatever, I think Heather made it kind of clear that like she
thought that Meredith might come in and and say, and she did at
that time say, you know, while she's being very neutral about
it all, she was just saying that like, yeah, these things could
be Lisa, but you know, I'm not going to believe that they are
like. And I think Heather was hoping
to sway her and say like, you know full well that this is her.
This is like consistent everything that she's done to
you and to me and all of us. But my point is I don't
understand like why Heather thought of the shoot could
convince Meredith if anything because she's so close with Lisa
now it just seemed and I'm I find it very interesting on the
other hand that Meredith didn't run and tell Lisa that they were
gunning for her. See.
Like, because Lisa was genuinely shocked when it came out like
and she couldn't be faking that because she you know, and mirror
was like, this is what was being said.
And I'm surprised she didn't go running back before dinner and
saying, look, just so you know, heads up, I'm your friend and I
was not participating in this. And like own take ownership and
take claim the narrative before you got brought in before you
get brought into whatever. Heather and Meredith wants Lisa
to get caught, that's why. And that's why she didn't go do
that. She's hoping that Heather can do
it without her, and that's why Meredith left her out to dry.
I don't think at the dinner, I think Meredith still needs Lisa.
I don't want her. I don't think she wants her to
get caught. But she also isn't going to save
her ass. But she's going to make it very
clear that she was not leading the right, you know?
Yeah. But she didn't, you know, She
didn't stay to a point, like, you know, she didn't say that I
was defending you, Lisa. She was saying like, oh, no, I
told them that I didn't think it was you.
But she didn't say that like, no, she said I told them I'd be
disappointed if I found out it was you.
So that is not saying I was defending you, right.
So I mean, that's very much Meredith just being all like,
well, I don't know. And so, yeah, Meredith wants
Lisa to get God, that's that's for sure.
And again, I just think that all the eyes from Heather to Lisa
and even to Meredith to a point where is just like, you know,
like Heather knows Heather knows something that Lisa did and
she's just not saying it. And they're trying not to break
probably some unspoken pact or whatever.
And it's in the vault, yes. But Britney and Meredith, that
was worth it because. Why would Brittany confide in
Bronwyn? I thought.
I guess maybe she thought like, oh, just like some harmless
gossip until Bron was like, well.
Well, I I thought it was hilarious that, you know,
Brittanys changing the changing or in Bronwyn out there, the
camera on are being like, like, yeah, just what the hell.
Like why is she saying? That like you are miked.
It's a camera crew. Yeah, and just it's shitty that
Bronwyn was just so quickly like, da da da da da like, well.
She did it last year when she like dropped a dime on her I.
Know, but like Bronwyn, I don't know, Like Bronwyn's so clumsy,
just in general. She's just gawky about her her
her demeanor in general, and then she can't even stir.
By the way, yeah. She can't even stir the pot with
any sort of believability and just she's just like, whoa, here
we go. Here's the plot.
Here's the bad shit she was saying about you.
But I like that Britney didn't shy away from it.
I mean her, yeah, problematic to her use of the word seizure and
kind of. It was, you know, yeah.
It was like you just just say you freak out.
You go from zero to 80. There's zero to 100.
But the fact that Meredith was like, like people have seizures
my including. My.
Son. Yeah.
So it was like, it was like, oh, it's as if Britney like was
reading from the Meredith's Greatest Hits.
What was it like? There are children starving like
that, that whole yarn from three or four years ago.
With it was the Monica season, yeah.
There's children starving. It's like.
They're more important thing. Yeah, exactly.
It's like, OK. And I mean, Britney was right.
I mean, that's exactly what Meredith does, is she?
She goes from zero to 60. And she was like, she is
wackadoodle. Yeah.
And. And it's it's not normal.
I mean, and if the fact of the matter is that Meredith, if
that's her shtick and she's kind of like she uses that as a
defense or like whatever, just kind of like get herself out of
conversations, then she needs to reconsider it because it's, you
know, they're all, they're all caught on to it.
Exactly. I like that Brittany was
standing up for herself a bit more.
Yeah, saying like, this is what I said.
And like when she said like, you just need to disengage, I was
like, oh, OK. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I wish she would have called out Bronwyn on like, you
know, oh, I thought we were, you know, not that I thought we were
having a moment, but I thought that like, you know, this was
just harmless, you know, gossip, gossip and that, you know, we
were sharing our opinions about our friends and Co workers and
that like, you know, I'm not gonna wasn't gonna turn around
and say things that you said, but you know.
Well, I think Bronwyn's smart enough not to say anything bad
about this woman in front of Brittany because she knows she
can't hold water. Right, right, right.
I did enjoy this entire time while they're eating that Angie
and Mary were just downstairs chilling.
I like, I don't understand Mary being as germaphobic as she is.
The fact that like Angie was throwing up all over that room
and she's like, let me eat my meal down here.
I just. Like I think Mary saw it as an
opportunity to be like, I don't want to be upstairs with those
crazy ladies. I want to enjoy a meal right?
Even if his little barf in here. But also, you know, she didn't
want to leave Angie by her. That was that was very sweet.
I did love the like when the dinner was broad.
She's like, where's the rest of it?
Yeah. And then she but yeah, she's
like, I hope they're really enjoying all this food and they
show upstairs, no one's eating anything and.
I it was interesting, interesting how Heather just
quickly got to we think you're the source of the dirt.
It's like no pretense, like no Lube, just like.
Just like putting it in right now.
I really honestly think it's because they all know it.
They've all probably as. Mary said.
What did Mary say? She's.
Like, yes, we all Oh yeah, we all know it all knows her.
Yeah, and, and, and that they're just not going to beat around
the Bush anymore. And I, I honestly think it's
because probably, I don't know, there was a part, I don't
remember the specifics, but it was when Heather brought up the
whole idea of Angie talking, you know, digging up dirt on
Meredith, etcetera. It it seem as though Lisa had
asked all of them to do that before.
You're OK. That went down the wrong pipe.
No, we need, we need the correct pipe to be gone down.
That sounds a little dirty. Don't make you laugh.
I'm sorry. Oh sorry, it's just like last
episode where I was lost my boyfriend.
No more drinking. You got to stop drinking those
glasses of vodka during our our podcast.
You OK? Yeah, warm.
I don't know. You'd be all right.
Yes, yeah. Sorry, I I think it, I think
because the same way that I think Lisa's asked everyone to
dig up dirt on everyone else. And so I think that Lisa's asked
Heather to dig up dirt on someone in the in the group,
probably Bronwyn. Yes, and Lisa has people and
yes, because last year Heather was not in a good place with
Bronwyn and so. That's why I think a lot of
those glances back and forth were like, girl, you know what
I'm talking about. Cuz we talked about it.
We talked about like how we don't like Bronwyn and.
Right, yeah. That's the SNL girl girl.
I was like. Girl.
So I, I think that's has to be what's going on.
I that makes sense now. I don't understand and maybe
just cuz I don't, I'm not that dishonest of a person.
I just don't understand like how Lisa could react that way other
than I mean it has to be because she knows she's been caught.
Like just deny, deny, deny. And like she knows like her, you
know, she I just seems weird to me.
Like at that point, if everyone's there and you know
it, like why kid a kidder at that point just be like, yeah,
OK, I did it. Like she just seems like she's
causing more drama for herself by continuing to deny it.
And like, at the end of the day, like, I don't think the fans
care one way or another. I don't think that the lady is
really care one way or another. And I think that's what I think
Heather's true. And this is how convoluted I
think it's all getting. And Heather's right when she
says I'm being a friend to you right now by by calling you out
on your shit. Like I know that this is the
case. Like just stop denying it.
Just address this head on with Bronwyn.
Address this head on. Quit trying to like get behind
all underneath all of us and just tell it to our faces.
Right, If I didn't like you, I would just completely want to
obliterate you, but I, I don't, I know it's you and I can't lie
for you. I can't, you know, disregard it
or sleep it under the rug. And so I want to, we all want to
move forward and like be cool and be friends, right?
And so that's why I'm bringing this to your attention and
saying it to your face. The thing is with me and
actually goes with what Meredith said, I I totally believe this
could be Lisa. They don't have enough proof to
show that it is Lisa. So until you do break the 4th
wall, until Heather does say, well, we da da da, it's just,
it's just, you know, causation without correlation.
Causation is not equal. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A correlation is not equal causation.
Yeah, yeah. There's just, you know, it's,
it's circumstantial evidence. Right.
But it's also that same thing where, like, I don't know,
Heather could probably say how she knows and it will make Lisa
look even worse, right? Versus Lisa just saying that
it's happening and then it Lisa looks better.
Because really, Heather got very upset when she thought that Lisa
was accusing her of being a bad friend.
And I think as a viewer, you're like, while you're calling her,
you know, right, a dirt stir, a plot store and a dirt digger.
But it's like, you're right. There's so many more things she
probably could say, and she's protecting her with that.
And yeah. Yeah, and who knows, maybe
Heather knows some things that are out there about Lisa and
then, you know, besides the lawsuits and she's just like you
keep on this path, someones gonna say something about you
and then right Like you don't want any of that to happen.
Not that, you know, Heather would be the one to say it, but
you know, you keep pooking at Bronwyn and then Bronwyn has
Todd. I mean, they're not going to sit
back and relax and be like, OK, whatever.
They're going to start fighting back at some point, so.
You know Todd will get make it really ugly or else or Todd will
be like, see, you shouldn't have come back to the show, right?
Like it's your own fault. Right, right.
Yeah, that's probably what he would say.
That's. Probably you know and.
If he didn't, her mother would, I'm sure.
God, that probably, you know, the reason is why she didn't
come on the the the fight with them is that she and Tom are
probably still fighting about the whole thing.
And he was saying like, what are you effing doing?
You don't need the money. Like you're totally fine.
You don't. Why are you looking for like
this fame and this what are you trying to get from the show?
Because now it's harming me because now this shit that's
coming up about you is like being thrown at me now.
And that's he was probably much more pissed off camera than what
we saw in that one scene where he's like, what are you doing
right? Why would you go on this trip?
So. Yeah, and that's probably, I
mean, the, the specificity of like the, the things that were
leaked about her seemed like they would have to come from
someone who knows, you know, what they're talking about.
And it's probably Todd trying to get her off the show.
That would be the biggest. Like that would be like better
than reality on Tees. I know like if it was really
Todd doing all this. At the reunion, he's like
twirling his mustache. If someone finds out it is Todd
and he or he's just like, look, it was me.
Yeah, I just don't want you on the show.
He eats her cherry bitch. Oh.
So what twist? Yeah, I mean, it was a great
episode. I, we, I, I would go watch it
again. I feel like there's so much.
Things I missed because there was just so much going on and
like, even in the fight with like Heather and Lisa, I was
like, what are you saying, 'cause she's like one minute
she's like, fuck, screw you Heather.
And then just like crying to John Barlow.
I'm like, that's some whiplash of emotion.
Yeah, I mean, again, there's part of me that like, again, it
just feels like Lisa's being gas lit a little bit because for her
to react, she seemed very confused, like as to what?
But it can also be she's just confused as to what to do next.
Like I just don't know how to handle this now that like I if I
you know. Called out directly.
Right. She's like, I wasn't expecting
this, so I need to regroup and I'm regroup by calling John and,
you know, complaining to him and and, you know, figuring it out
from here. So I don't know, it just seems
like I don't like people cornered.
That's really disturbing to. Watch, it is like seeing her
flip out and like at the table and then run downstairs and I
don't touch me and then like being on her own on that little
like, yeah, bad thing. It was just like.
Yeah, I mean, I like the Whitney going down below deck and like,
getting a tour from everyone, Brittany and her thirst for, you
know, Captain Jason or whatever. Look, I think he's yes, a good
looking man, but like everyone's just like tripping over their
Dicks to like get Tim. Yeah, like fans included.
Like I remember like Bravo Con, I was like, Oh my God, he's the
second coming. And I'm like, he's an attractive
man, but I mean. Well, it's the same way, you
know, you put any, you know, any of the old original New York
OG's in front of any man. They're just like, Oh my God,
the same way like, you know, they put all the, the men, the
crew of the boat, like, just like, Oh my God, you're so
muscular. Like, no, he's wearing a
compression shirt. Exactly.
I'm sure he's got more muscles than me.
But at the same time, it's not like he's just taking off his
shirt and like filming softcore porn on a boat.
I mean, come on. It wasn't.
Yeah, like you know that Thunder from Dad under?
Yeah, he's. Just like normal looking dudes
who like have some muscle to them.
Yeah, dude with hair I would look like crazy like.
The floppy, goofy hair it. Wasn't even floppy, it was like
it was very hairsprayed in place.
Oh, I don't know that I noticed. It was the British guy who like
Britney's like, Oh yeah. Which is like, I develop, I
sell, I develop, I sell. He was like, Brittany bought.
Broken. It's also.
Weird to hear her call herself a developer like that.
Seems like a really weird thing she's.
An agent, right? She was an agent and now she's
the developer. Yeah, it sounded like she was
trying to make herself sound a little more.
You building houses, girl? Oh my God.
The Jared Unicorn We and then also the cucumber.
What was the cucumber that was with bag right?
Like no one's going to bring this isn't 1945.
No one's using a cucumber as a dildo are.
They. I hope not.
I don't know why. Any other things you can get
like on Amazon but? Why would you bring a cucumber
on an international trip? Or you know, it seems it seems
weird. You would think that like if
they were saying like, oh, if it's for like, you know, beauty
treatments, you can get that on a boat.
I'm sure there's plenty of it was just who would do that
except just to be funny, right? But really, because, you know,
they would, they couldn't show a a dildo.
They'd have to like blur that out, but a cucumber they could
they play. That was totally intentional.
No one would like no one's. But that was Whitney's bag,
'cause she's like the that's my bag with my valuables in it.
Oh, she. Was being funny that she was
totally being funny, 'cause Jason and she and Jason and
Heather are friends? That was, yeah.
That was funny that Heather was like, Oh no, we totally screwed
around. And like, she's like, did I
actually say that? Like delete.
Yeah, delete, delete. I mean, she did seem like a very
casual, It did seem like a very casual slip up, but also the
same time it could be very innocent like.
I mean they like made out of bravo right?
Or something. Remember right, I believe that
so they all looked amazing. I have to say like very much so.
I thought it felt bad for Andrew.
She's like I I'm feeling so sick.
I can't even suck in my gut. It was just like, oh, poor Ange,
you're. Not you're not big Ashy.
But but Heather looked amazing. I mean, for someone who, you
know, had, you know, been a, a larger lady, you know, and, and
had some feelings on the matter, she looked amazing.
And what I liked about all of them is that like they didn't
have a perfect body, but they were still just out there having
a good time. Like in a way that in a way when
I see myself like in photos with just, you know, my, my natural
tummy out there, like at the beach or at the pool, I'm just
like, I'd rather not see that. But you know.
You know that whatever we have to talk about, what's that, you
know? I don't know what you're talking
about. Yes, Heather looked great, but
her weave, her weave. I know she They've been out
swinging the water and it dried funny, but I.
Thought you would start talking crap about me and I was like how
dare you, it's my birthday soon. No, Heather's real hair ended
here at her neck. You can see it in the behind
shot because her camera's all over the boat.
Her weave came down to like her waist.
I just need to know how long her actual hair is because it was
just so weird to be like wait, wait, why does your hair stop
like as above, but like your weave is down past your boobs.
I don't know what's going on. It was bad, it was scraggly.
It needed to be in a ponytail as.
I say would you prefer like, not that you're a hair stylist by
any means, but would you suggest that if they're going to go on
trips, like where they're going to be swimming or their hair
gets wet, they just have their weave removed before they go?
No, I think you just need a swim cap perhaps.
Or you just need to like, slap a wig on when you go to dinner.
Or do like marry and just don't get in the water.
A head scarf, a head scarf will be perfect.
You're on vacation. It's an island.
Put on a headscarf like you're. It just really bugged me because
we got so many behind shots with her because she was like
falling, I'm falling after you. I'm falling like Lisa, I'm
falling. And all I could see, all I could
see was just that, that the the blending wasn't blending and.
We're going to have to do an episode where you just pick you
just go through everyone's bad weaves like from from last
couple seasons forward your favorite like your watch what
happens 5 of bad weeks. Basically watch what?
Watch what Husband's Housewives 50.
My God. Jeff's favorite bad weaves.
So much to choose from. Something I think we got through
everyone. I mean, there was so much stuff.
I I just want Lisa to own up to it if she's involved.
Just quit bullshitting bullshitters.
Yes, like it's it's season what, 6 now 6 Like, OK, it's been
years we've been accused. You've been getting accused of
doing all the things 7. Or seven?
No, no, it's 6/6. We'll find out later.
Yeah, but it's been years you've been getting accused of this
shit, just like if you've been doing it like at this point,
just own up to it and find new tactics.
She never will. Like she just is not going to
accept responsibility and culpability and yeah.
At the same time, I'm going to feel really, really stupid if
this is all something that Heather's manufacturing, because
it's not like we don't know better about Heather like
Heather. Made whole black eye thing,
Yeah, yeah, you could say. Like why are we trusting
Heather's word? The fact that every other
housewife, including Mary, is just all like, I mean, come on,
for real. Mary was really like, yes, you
do it, Heather, like we all feel this way.
They've had many conversation about Lisa Digny up dirt and for
her to like run off and be like, I've never did anything to any
of them girl. I mean, unless, unless she's
going to do this whole like it's self-defense because they did it
to me first. That's the only reason I fought
back. It's like.
No, it's not true. Because like this.
Well, yeah, yeah. No, it's not.
This is the really the one big thing.
It's something that the lawsuits were out there.
They were in like national newspapers.
So it wasn't Brittany who mouth 4 lawsuits?
Yes. The reaction shots and comments
like middle side comments can be so funny.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, the the shade is good
with them. I really am enjoying it.
But yeah, it's a good episode. I'm glad they gave us some
scenes from next week. I know I was trying to see if
everyone was in them. Lisa was there because it's the
scene where Meredith is talking with Mary and Mary is like,
you're bad friend and you're boring.
Yeah, at least there's just. They're like, oh, do.
You think Angie gets on her feet?
I didn't see much of Angie in those scenes so.
I hope so. All I could focus is on like,
the bloody dinner. The what?
The bloody dinner where they're all like, oh.
Yeah, it's also weird good timing, like it's Halloween soon
for us, so it's like it's good timing.
I think they knew that, but maybe they're just awful weak.
But you know, who knows? It's good when Meredith throws
the axe out in her. Head or whatever action.
So good. They just know.
I mean, they do camp well on the show.
They do. It's.
So campy. It's the campy show on Bravo.
It's good. Well, anything else we want to
cover? I think that's it.
All right, so we'll cover the rest of it next time.
Well, next time.