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Welcome to another episode of 
Husbands Watching Housewives. 

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I'm Scott. 
And I'm Jeff. 

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And we just watched the episode 
of The Real Housewives of 

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Potomac. 
Sure, Episode 2 season 10. 

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Season 10 ought to be an easy 
one to remember. 

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Season 10. 10 That's good. 10s 
Tens, 10s. 

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Yeah, I'm happy that Miami's 
reunion final episode is this 

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week because I couldn't get one 
less thing to remember. 

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It'll be. 
So 1 less housewives show until 

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we get. 
Beverly Hills, Yeah, exactly so.

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And then people are right. 
Bravo Con is right around the 

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corner. 
It really is. 

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It'll be 30 days as of Tuesday. 
Well, now that we've knocked 

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some things off our plate as far
as things we need to take care 

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of, I'm I can focus on that a 
little. 

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More yes, for sure, and the 
wristbands are coming soon. 

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Yes, I won't delete any more 
emails. 

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No, I I found the e-mail. 
I just right, Yeah. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, I ordered some clothes a 

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while back and deleted, but 
might have been the shipping 

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confirmation. 
They never showed up, but you 

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know, I got to stop deleting 
things. 

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So, you know, you get too much 
crap in your inbox. 

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You're just like, delete, 
delete, delete. 

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I didn't spend an afternoon 
unsubscribing to like, you know,

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those newsletters you. 
Get. 

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I like doing that too. 
Yeah, 'cause I'm just like, why 

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am I getting the same junk? 
Exactly. 

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And you're like, you know, you 
may be like what you bought from

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a store, like right, But you 
don't need to be reminded every 

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four days. 
Buy something else. 

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Exactly. 
I get a Banana Republic e-mail 

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every day. 
Yeah, I don't need that. 

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Don't need that at all, No. 
So we've had a busy weekend. 

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We'll get to Potomac shortly, 
don't worry. 

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But we. 
And also the big news. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But yeah, we've had a busy 

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weekend. 
We officially adopted our cat, 

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Momo. 
Momo, if you haven't seen him, 

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in one of our most recent tick 
tocks with Jeff seating his. 

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I was wrong. 
Failed but. 

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Failed. 
I was just like off by a couple 

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on both sides. 
His Orange County seating chart 

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prediction so. 
Yeah, mine was better though. 

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Yeah, ice cream ears should 
have. 

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Been going to say they should 
have consulted me but you know, 

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whatever, it's OK, it's fine, 
we'll make do. 

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But yeah, Momo's right here. 
If I can pick him up without him

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squirming in a bit, I will. 
But he's a big cat. 

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He's a big cat, He's a great, 
he's a big boy, he's sweet. 

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And he likes to claw furniture. 
Yeah, we're trying to get off 

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with that. 
You got him. 

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I got him. 
This is Momo. 

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Oh, Momo. 
He says, but yeah, oh, he's 

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going to jump off me and scar me
with his claws, I'm sure. 

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But yeah, he's a cute little 
boy. 

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We got him a friend, you know, I
think we told the story. 

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Yeah, we did, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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So we officially, because we 
were trying it out like he 

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wasn't we were worried about him
and Gabrielle are their cap and 

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now they're on they're they're 
in a good place. 

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Yep, they're playing they. 
Squash their beef they. 

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Squash their beef. 
Yeah, it was good. 

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They're playing, running around 
together. 

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So it's a good, it's a good 
situation using the Litter 

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Robot. 
It's yeah, yes. 

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We gotta work more on yeah, I 
gotta, hmm, we gotta just get 

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that older robot sponsorship. 
I could use. 

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We really should. 
We should promote this. 

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We've been using it for five 
years now. 

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Yeah, right. 
And we've, we've yeah, we've 

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converted many people, yes. 
So we'll, we'll, we'll work on 

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that. 
Yes. 

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And then we went to Sacramento 
yesterday, visited a good friend

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of ours, Shannon. 
That was a fun time. 

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Who's been on the pod before? 
Yeah, she has. 

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Yeah. 
She expressed how she, like, 

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really, she's got opinions, But 
she was a little embarrassed the

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first time we had her on the 
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She didn't know, didn't know 
what to say. 

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But now that we've done some 
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with other pods, we could just 
do one with her. 

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You know, she lives in 
Sacramento. 

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We can just do it like a Zoom 
call. 

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She's got some opinions. 
A lot of opinions. 

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Yes, yes, yes. 
But yeah, Sacramento's about two

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hours from us, so it's quite a 
trek. 

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It was a lot of drive. 
Yeah, it's a it's a drive. 

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But what's nice is like she 
always comes down here and which

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is nice of her, but like, you 
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around here. 
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see and. 
I hadn't been to Sacramento 

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since like 2016, and it's like, 
it's a cool place and we, you 

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know, yeah, there wasn't the 
best. 

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You had it. 
My dinner was great. 

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Yeah, I might. 
Sorry. 

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The place was great. 
My food wasn't like amazing I 

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mean, but yours was good. 
Because I had crab cake crusted 

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sea bass, which was the IT 
basically tasted like a fish 

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stick wrapped in in crab cake. 
It was delightful. 

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Delightful potatoes too. 
Yes, it was all around I 

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enjoyed. 
I had shoestring fries. 

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I hate shoestring fries. 
They're too thin. 

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You have to like put 4 together 
to make one real fry. 

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I don't understand the concept. 
I just want a full fry. 

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A real fry. 
And that's why you're more of a 

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steak fry guy. 
Exactly. 

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I see even the Wingstop fries we
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these shoestring. 
Wing stop. 

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They gave us like a pile of 
fries. 

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It was a pile of fry like are 
they frying? 

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Fry they competing Five guys for
the most number of fries. 

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It was, it was too much food. 
It was excuse. 

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Me and then yeah, today we went 
and we bought a car so. 

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Yes, after talking about it for 
like months and months talking 

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about the pod. 
I've been doing research upon 

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research like my entire like 
Facebook and Instagram feed is 

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nothing but like car ads and now
I get to tell them Nope bought 1

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so. 
It's hard letting of our old car

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because that was the first car 
we bought together and we got. 

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A little choked up, we did. 
It's so weird. 

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It's just like, it's an object, 
but it's like, you know, just 

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the same thing. 
If we moved out of this house, 

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it would be this first house we 
bought together. 

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It would be really tough to 
like, you know, there's so many 

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memories and like road trips 
with a couple of Rd. trips, you 

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know, it's just it's it was a 
great car, but you know, wasn't 

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ultimately going to work for us 
long term for a few reasons. 

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Well, it's a. 
Volkswagen, they're very high 

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maintenance and there's some 
rumors that the year we had had 

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some ongoing maintenance 
troubles after a certain amount 

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of mileage. 
And we'd much rather instead of 

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spending to have it fixed, like 
a lot of money to have it fixed,

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rather put that into a new car. 
So we had a new car, it's a 

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Hyundai, it's got the 100,000 
mile warranty, all that stuff. 

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So we'd be a little less worried
about driving it. 

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And, you know, I would just 
suck. 

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My biggest worry was that I 
would just suck that we're going

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to be in the future with, you 
know, money spending elsewhere 

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and then not being able to 
afford a car. 

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So now it's going to be good to.
Right away, something like. 

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Yes, exactly. 
Yeah, it's going to be reliable 

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forward thing and it's a hybrid.
Oh, I get to be Californian 

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finally and be like, look at me,
I'm saving the environment. 

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Californian. 
I know it's going to be great, 

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so. 405, yeah. 
But as everyone know, if you 

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haven't bought a car before in 
your life, it's not a fun 

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experience in that. 
Around a lot of two hour 

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experience. 
And they didn't have any, they 

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didn't have a vending machine 
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So we were getting we're so. 
Much time. 

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And the sales manager, he's 
like, oh, I got some crackers. 

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And he gave us like a thing of 
Ritz to eat, which is very nice 

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of him. 
I'm and we like, ate up those 

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Ritz, Yeah. 
That was it. 

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Saved my life at least. 
Ate left no crumbs. 

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Well, there were some crumbs. 
I hope someone grab those rits 

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because like they were. 
I think MO, I think the the 

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other sales guy. 
Because they were like ants in 

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his office. 
So I'm like that could have 

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definitely like we left them 
open. 

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I'm sure it. 
Yeah, not our problem. 

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Not wrong the other one we 
bought the car from you so. 

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But yeah, so our old car was 
blue car because it was a blue 

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car, and now we have a green 
car. 

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So we'll have green car. 
Yeah, be good. 

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Unless we want to give it a 
different. 

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Name. 
No, it's green car. 

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OK, All right. 
Just. 

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Check what it is. 
But yeah, so that's big news. 

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What's going on with us? 
The big news in our life? 

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No. 
One no, no. 

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Yeah, someday with that no. 
The Bravo news at all. 

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And the India of it all. 
Yeah, watching this episode was 

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a little bit tough because 
knowing what's gone down with 

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Wendy is just. 
So if you have been living under

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that Rock, You know the same one
where you don't know about what 

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other things we said, like if 
you're living under a rock and. 

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I don't know. 
I don't. 

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Know anyways I've. 
Been living under a rock 

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apparently. 
I don't know what else we're. 

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Saying so you're under the 
rocks. 

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So basically on Friday, the news
broke. 

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We were at home and we were like
texting each other, like, what 

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the hell for different rooms 
because we're those people. 

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But the fact basically that 
Wendy and Eddie were arrested 

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Thursday and about in regards to
insurance fraud. 

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So allegedly in my * Jones voice
they claim that they were robbed

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last year before season 9 
started filming and that they a 

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lot of handbags and jewelry got 
stolen what have you. 

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So they file insurance claims 
yadda yadda yadda. 

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Apparently the cops were 
suspicious from the get go 

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because it didn't seem like 
there was a break in and they 

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were monitoring them and they 
discovered that allegedly they 

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took the stolen good, the stolen
goods back to she returned them 

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to the stores. 
Yes, aside from one ring which? 

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She was then later wearing in 
social media. 

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And wears in the season. 
Oh yeah. 

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So there's that. 
And then also that's, yeah, 

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there's, it's like you're saying
they're committed insurance 

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fraud. 
And they got a. 

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False claim of robbery. 
And it was a whole press 

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conference on Friday with this. 
And there's like many, many, 

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many, like felonies. 
Yes, many charges, Charges. 

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Against yeah, so the the First 
things first is that the the the

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mug shots made it look like it 
was fake. 

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I too, I was scrolling through I
saw it online. 

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I was like, is this like for 
Halloween? 

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Yeah, you know. 
Cuz yeah, it was giving me some.

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What was it the US like? 
Us or someone was like that new 

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horror movie smile. 
Oh yeah, see that? 

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Because Wendy just had that 
weird smile that was. 

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It was a little eerie, like. 
Very eerie. 

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And almost like nervous 
laughter, but caught like in a 

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out of in a photo. 
And then the font, I realize now

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after the fact, the font on the 
article I saw was the typical 

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TMZ headline stuff, but that 
just made it look extra fake, 

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very fake. 
So I was like, and then with the

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other things that, you know, 
we've been seeing around lately 

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of, you know, so and so get a 
divorce, you know, wasn't wasn't

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your friend saying they saw. 
Oh, there was. 

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Something dumb on Facebook. 
Yeah, I was thinking about. 

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Shamia. 
It was assuming that she filed 

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for like hers and filed for 
bankruptcy and all this stuff. 

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But like, it wasn't, it wasn't 
reputable. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
So like, so obviously, yeah, I 

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had to check to make sure this 
was real. 

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And it it was. 
And I was like, oh, that's 

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awful. 
I I I just hate it because I 

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like Wendy a lot. 
We like Wendy a lot A. 

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Lot. 
And especially on the show, she 

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seemed to be like the most level
headed one of the bunch. 

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And really, I think it gets 
crapped on a lot by, you know, 

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fans and Co workers alike. 
And it just, it just sucks that 

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this is happening or that they 
might have done this and that 

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they could both be going to 
jail. 

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And you feel for their three 
young children and just, you 

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know, it's just it's very 
surprising. 

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Of all the people who I would 
thought this would happen to 

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across any of the housewives. 
It was not windy. 

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Yeah. 
It just seems so like she has 

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four degrees. 
He's a lawyer. 

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You know, they've started this 
business which they claimed was 

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doing very well, but apparently 
it was not doing very well. 

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Yeah. 
So it's like this other. 

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So it's it's that sad. 
It's also this idea of with 

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housewives of trying to maintain
this front, like we're so rich. 

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We have so much all these things
and trying to be relevant and 

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have the status because it's 
supposed to be an aspirational 

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show and you're faking it, you 
know, and it sucks. 

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It's like that. 
You have to feel like you need 

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to do that in order to stay on 
the show, you know, and it just.

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Yeah, I mean, who knows if that.
I mean, that's probably has. 

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I can't see how that wouldn't 
play a part in their motivation 

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behind it. 
But I mean, they could have. 

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They could have very well just 
needed money for, you know, 

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happy Eddie or for someone. 
That. 

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Could be or for keeping the 
business going a little longer. 

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And, you know, it's always one 
of those, well, I guess there's 

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no way you're going to pay back 
insurance fraud. 

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But it's always one of those 
things where it's, you know, the

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road to hell is paid with best 
intentions. 

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And she spent all that money on 
her talk show and she left her 

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position at right college. 
And So what, where was the money

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coming in from? 
And maybe it wasn't enough. 

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And that's what they did to. 
And also, I'm sure their kids 

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are all in private schools and 
they have a huge house. 

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So it's it's a lot of, it's a 
lot to maintain. 

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And it seems that maybe they 
didn't have the money to do so. 

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And so they resorted to. 
This, I mean, it's it's hard to 

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I mean, I don't want to even say
defend this because it's 

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indefensible, but you know, the 
thing that I'm going to really 

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dislike the most is it's already
happening is how how mean 

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Ashley's been about it and how 
kind of smug it's going to let 

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Ashley and Giselle and all the. 
Others. 

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Be about this. 
Well, it's ironically, you know,

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Giselle and when you're the 
best, the best, best, best place

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they've been in since when they 
started on the show. 

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So if this has happened two 
seasons ago, Giselle would have 

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yes, definitely like break over 
the cold. 

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So I'm curious to see what 
Giselle's reaction will be. 

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And also it's really funny how 
like Ashley is like, you know, 

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if you haven't seen, there was a
clip of Ashley at a singing gig 

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one. 
Of her gigs? 

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Yes, one of her singing people. 
Still let her sing. 

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And you know, she like was like,
oh, this is not news to us. 

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We've been known. 
And like, you know, she made the

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whole Zens going to the pen. 
And it's like, girl, like, you 

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don't know the full story, but 
also why are you so happy? 

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Yeah. 
For someone else's downfall. 

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Yeah, you. 
Know I mean I I get and that's 

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The thing is maybe they've never
really made it the storyline 

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that Wendy is fake or you know 
that she's you know pretending 

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to be something that she's not 
they. 

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Never seem like she's snobby and
pretentious and condescending to

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the other women. 
Right. 

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So I don't know, like what like 
when Ashley says, oh, we've 

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always known about this. 
It's like, I mean. 

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Whatever you know. 
Maybe you've known something 

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doesn't seem right, but you've 
never there. 

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But I think it doesn't. 
This doesn't somehow vindicate 

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Ashley in the world of 
housewives. 

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Be like I do it all along. 
I was saying it. 

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Is it? 
No, you're just being messy and 

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mean and kicking someone when 
they're down. 

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It's not like she was your 
nemesis this entire time. 

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And so you've had right to be 
like, you know, she tried to get

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me and now, like, you know, 
she's the one who's the bad one.

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And this isn't like a Tamara 
Gretchen situation. 

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Yeah. 
You know, So I don't understand,

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like, why she was just so like 
full of Glee and like just 

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singing about it. 
Basically. 

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She should not sing. 
And it's just it's just weird. 

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Like, you feel. 
I'm not. 

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I don't know her, but it seems 
you only someone who is 

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miserable would be happy about 
someone else's memory misery. 

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Right. 
Right. 

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So I don't understand that. 
Yeah. 

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And it just it's. 
Especially you're both mothers. 

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Do you want this right, right, 
right. 

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You know someone I say like when
when he should have committed 

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the crime allegedly, but still 
like this is the mother being 

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taken away from her kids, right,
potentially and you're just like

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and then. 
A pun and also on top of it to 

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be like Zen Zen Wen's gone to 
the pen. 

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It's like, no, she got bail. 
She's she's sitting at home 

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right now and she's there. 
She's not up at the, you know, 

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the state pen. 
She's if anything. 

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You've got this thing saying 
yeah. 

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Exactly. 
So yeah, it's just, it's grosses

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me out. 
And like, the same thing. 

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You know, if you had a friend 
who got into legal trouble, like

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truly a friend, like you would 
want the best for that. 

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You know, you'd want, you know, 
even if they've made a mistake, 

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you would still, like, hope that
you know by for whatever reason,

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logical or not, that it's not 
true. 

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And then when you find out it is
true, then you know, you go from

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there and it's like, again, they
make such a big deal out of 

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supporting each other and like 
you're supporting well, it's. 

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Supporting women, Yeah, it's 
such BS. 

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Yeah, it's not women supporting 
women. 

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It's maybe in other groups, but 
like not in this group. 

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Yeah, I don't, I don't like it. 
But you know, I mean, I I can't,

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you know, you want to say 
innocent until proven guilty, 

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but it seems like they've done 
they're good, built a good case 

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against Wendy and Eddie. 
So it's unfortunate, but she's 

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not the first housewife to make 
a mistake like this. 

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It's, you know, a serious crime 
for sure. 

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But you know, it's she wasn't 
defrauding old people. 

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It's not a Ginshaw situation. 
And yeah, she wasn't taking 

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advantage and putting people's 
lives in danger. 

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It's a pure case of greed, which
absolutely sucks. 

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And she has to take 
accountability for it, and she 

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should. 
If she did these things, if they

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both do those things, then they 
need to pay the price for it. 

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But I'm not going to be, even if
it was somebody who was like, if

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it was Ashley, who I don't like 
very much, I wouldn't be like, 

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yeah, she's going to be like 
that. 

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That's unfortunate. 
Shouldn't have done that. 

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But I'm not gonna do a 
cartwheel. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
So I'm, you know, it, it 

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concerns me how this is going to
affect the rest of the season. 

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You, you thought of something I 
hadn't thought of. 

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And especially now that they've 
cancelled the first episode of 

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the Wife Swap because it's 
episode. 

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But you were saying like maybe 
go back and re edit some of this

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season of Potomac just to maybe 
make Wendy less present in it, 

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kind of do what they did with 
Kenya last season on Atlanta, 

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you know? 
Well, that was like all together

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like taking her out and I think 
they will do that, but maybe 

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some because they always they 
always talk about the scenes of 

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being cuts. 
Maybe they'll be even more so 

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right What her story was going 
to be this year, right. 

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It's like from renting her house
so. 

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Oh well, so that's not gonna. 
Be AI know. 

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That's not a good sign. 
Yeah, and with the the whole 

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white swap of it all, I get why 
they cancelled that episode 

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because it was about, you know, 
her family and and you know the.

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The the decadent life that they 
live. 

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Versus like the, you know, not 
so much what the other family 

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she's swapping with. 
So it's just it's awkward for 

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everybody. 
Yeah, so I get that. 

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But it's something to be. 
Most awkward for Bravo, like for

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sure kind of showing that you 
know, hey. 

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Well, that's the thing too. 
It's like you have to think, you

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know, Bravo, these women feel 
compelled to have these rich 

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lives because that's what gets 
them on the show and keeps them,

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keeps them on the show. 
So is BB's not telling you to 

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cheat and lie and steal to have 
this rich life, but like, you 

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feel like you have to maintain 
that in order to be relevant on 

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Bravo. 
So it's like this snake eating 

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its tail situation. 
Is that the right way to? 

393
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Yeah. 
I think so, yeah. 

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I mean, it's, it's not a, it's 
not a, it's not difficult to get

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to that conclusion or infer that
from, you know, what they kind 

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of expect you to do. 
I mean, hopefully it doesn't 

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come down to that. 
I mean, as far as I, I, I hope 

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that whatever happens, I don't 
know. 

399
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I, I don't think it goes well 
for Wendy. 

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I don't think she's going to be 
coming back based on this alone.

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Like, I, it's so weird because 
so many other housewives have 

402
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done so much worse and kind of 
come back. 

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But I just think that Wendy's 
kind of been on a downward 

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trajectory as far as storyline. 
And then I think this is just 

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going to be like, well, it's 
easier for us to part ways. 

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A lot of people turned against 
her too, like after her first 

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season and she like got the, you
know, the glow up right, Right. 

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They felt that, oh, she's 
pretentious and she like, thinks

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she's better than everybody and,
you know, whatever. 

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00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:50,360
And, you know, you've heard like
my sister Danielle. 

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00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,880
See, I'll talk kind of about she
doesn't like her, so you. 

412
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Texted your sister about this. 
I am not. 

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Oh, you should. 
I want. 

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00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:57,800
You should. 
I texted my my Leslie. 

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Yeah, but not Danielle. 
Danielle. 

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No, but. 
Get her on the phone. 

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Give me an opinion. 
Yeah. 

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So yeah, other words but. 
And it's, it's just, it's 

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unfortunate all around. 
Like, and I guess again, I 

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really liked Wendy. 
I liked that she was a little 

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bit snobby. 
And I like that she's, you know.

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Has those 4° and is afraid to 
tell you about it. 

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Well, and also that she would 
just kind of like, all right, 

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Giselle, whatever, like and 
that's where she seems to be 

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even in this episode. 
Just be like, OK, if you're 

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going to say that winner is not 
going to bother me, you know, 

427
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And that's what I like about her
is that she's not putting 

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herself into business. 
That really doesn't affect her. 

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00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:39,760
Like the whole with this 
episode, you know, Qiana has a 

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beef with her and like she's 
just like, well, that's A1 sided

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thing. 
Like I'm not staying up at night

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worrying. 
Right, right. 

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And that's what I like. 
That's generally been her 

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attitude of like, OK, if you 
want to have a problem with me, 

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go ahead. 
I'm not going to waste my time 

436
00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:53,040
because this is nothing, you 
know? 

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It's all. 
I think it's worse, like when 

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you're aggressively coming at 
her, you know? 

439
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,600
Yeah. 
Like when Robin and Giselle like

440
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were throwing out the rumors 
about Eddie cheating and the 

441
00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,200
Nah. 
That season, you know yes then 

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she's like you're coming for my 
husband for my family and then 

443
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you know, but this like BS with 
Kiara and she's like, I don't 

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know what you're doing and I 
don't want any part of it right 

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right next right basically so 
next let's. 

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Yeah. 
Next, moving on to this episode,

447
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:24,920
this seemed to be the real time 
we get to meet more of Angel and

448
00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:25,880
Tia. 
Yes. 

449
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,040
Right. 
I prefer right now Angel. 

450
00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,640
I like Angel and I like her 
husband. 

451
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,000
That whole scene of them eating,
they seem very real and normal 

452
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,480
and like he actually seems 
engaged with her, like and 

453
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,960
interested in talking to her. 
By the way, if you know how to 

454
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,720
make a cat not scratch couches. 
As we watch is it? 

455
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:45,680
Yeah. 
Hey, mother. 

456
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,240
Hey Kitty, Get out of there. 
Thanks for listening to us 

457
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,360
discipline our cat. 
We have a couch up here that's 

458
00:20:53,360 --> 00:20:55,600
kind of a hand me down couch. 
You can scratch the crap out of 

459
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,920
that, but we we probably. 
The one discourage it, yeah, the

460
00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,600
one downstairs is like is. 
Not we got those little plastic 

461
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,800
things coming and we're going to
live like we're, you know, live 

462
00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,320
in a, you know, cat house, I 
guess. 

463
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,080
Anyway, in a cat house. 
I really enjoyed Angel and her 

464
00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,240
husband. 
I just liked also their whole, 

465
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,480
you know, their whole lives seem
really good and. 

466
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,880
I I don't know. 
I know they had family out here.

467
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,280
Obviously the show was out here.
I would not have left Colorado. 

468
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,840
That house looked gorgeous. 
You know, like they had a whole.

469
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:26,640
They still have a business out 
there. 

470
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,680
You, I mean, you called it. 
I mean, they're just, they're 

471
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,440
just renting in there to be back
here for the show, like. 

472
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,720
Right. 
Because I think if things don't 

473
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,040
go, yeah, she she's like, no, we
don't want to do this anymore or

474
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,920
Bravo's like, no, we don't want 
you to do this anymore. 

475
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,400
They can go back to that amazing
house in Colorado. 

476
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,360
Yeah. 
So I would have stayed there 

477
00:21:42,360 --> 00:21:44,440
like. 
And it also seems like I don't 

478
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:47,440
know much about the, you know, 
I'm sure you can get out in kind

479
00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,240
of the sticks in, you know, the 
Potomac area, but I don't think 

480
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,760
they're going to find land the 
way that they. 

481
00:21:53,120 --> 00:21:55,160
Are. 
No, not like that, No. 

482
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,080
Yeah, I know. 
If that's a priority where he's 

483
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,880
at least being realistic, like 
maybe 2 acres and she's like 5 

484
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:02,040
acres. 
I was like, you're not. 

485
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,680
I don't think you're going to 
find that unless you're going to

486
00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,120
out in the middle of BFE. 
So yes. 

487
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,080
But you know, we'll see. 
Yeah. 

488
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,720
I, we're, I'm just gonna stick 
with her, her party. 

489
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,480
I think that other women were 
being kind of too. 

490
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,640
They're they're being bitches 
about it. 

491
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,160
They're just being a little too 
like, man, man, man, man like. 

492
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,840
I'm gonna call you one bitch. 
You're being bitchy about it 

493
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:25,560
that. 
Is that better? 

494
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,800
I'm just saying like, you know, 
also, I'm sorry, Giselle walks 

495
00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:34,720
into this woman's house and 
starts disrespecting the vibe of

496
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,880
her house. 
Like the whole party was 

497
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,120
supposed to be like tranquility 
and like, we're just going to 

498
00:22:39,120 --> 00:22:41,200
hang out. 
And then just Giselle walks in 

499
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,560
there and is just like, being 
loud and boisterous. 

500
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,600
Like even saying like, you know,
we're not supposed to raise our 

501
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,000
voices. 
And she's like, Oh, well, you 

502
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,880
know, it's a housewife. 
Yeah, yeah. 

503
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:52,640
Then it's like I think Angel is 
a different vibe because she's 

504
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,720
this sounds horrible and shady 
but I'll say it, she seems 

505
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,800
actually generally happy. 
Yeah. 

506
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,720
Yeah, compared to these other 
women and she's really chill and

507
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:07,960
she comes from like they like a 
nature chill kind of vibe. 

508
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,360
And so they don't understand 
that in Potomac. 

509
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,360
And so they were like, what are 
you doing? 

510
00:23:13,360 --> 00:23:15,960
Why are we doing a sound bath 
and trust we don't? 

511
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,080
No one need sound bath. 
I was calling, I was calling it 

512
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,800
a Silkwood sound bath because 
no, we don't need. 

513
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,360
I'd rather have a Silkwood 
shower than another sound bath. 

514
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,400
Sound. 
But again, that'd be like 

515
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,680
walking up to someone you just 
met and just being all like, 

516
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,880
you're stupid, you like this 
man, like. 

517
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,680
And that's pretty much how it 
seemed Giselle was being and 

518
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,360
even the some of the other 
night. 

519
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,240
At the party, eat the food. 
It looked really good. 

520
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,400
Yeah. 
You know, amazing chill. 

521
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,840
You're not being asked to do 
anything. 

522
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,600
And then she also, like, disrupt
like started stuff right away, 

523
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:49,640
like. 
So what's the thing with you and

524
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,360
Kay? 
It's like, yeah. 

525
00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,600
And then not what this is about.
This is a tranquil. 

526
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,880
I know. 
But yeah, it's all you show. 

527
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,800
I don't know. 
It just seemed very, very rude 

528
00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:59,040
to me. 
Like in a way that I couldn't 

529
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,480
even comprehend doing. 
Like even to someone I really, 

530
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,040
really found irritating. 
Yes. 

531
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,240
I don't think I could just show 
up at their house and just start

532
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,200
like. 
Start mess. 

533
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,880
Yeah, and just just like 
crapping over what they think is

534
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,120
the way to have a party, you 
know, it's like. 

535
00:24:13,120 --> 00:24:15,200
Yeah, she didn't like, you know,
expect, expect you to like, you 

536
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,440
know, commit 100% and like, you 
know, do your own sound bath in 

537
00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:19,720
your own everyday life, which is
right. 

538
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,760
This is what I want to do. 
Just I'm like, you know, nice, 

539
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:26,240
tranquil a past the stone. 
Yeah, she she didn't expect you 

540
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:30,400
to get up and do it was Stacey 
scream out your fire demon or 

541
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,880
whatever the hell that. 
Was they say like thank God I've

542
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,720
saved this party. 
Whatever I got us though, so I 

543
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,240
was just Samantha so. 
Earlier in the episode, Giselle 

544
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:42,920
went over to Kiarnas and and 
they that's where Karen had told

545
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:47,160
her that like she had to chin 
check Angel. 

546
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:51,480
Which which metaphorically so 
like you didn't like. 

547
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:53,160
You didn't lay hands. 
I mean no you. 

548
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,960
Didn't lay hands and there was 
something stupid, yeah, like she

549
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,320
was taking. 
She was basically playing 

550
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,920
devil's advocate, right? 
Which I don't necessarily love 

551
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:01,600
all the time. 
I. 

552
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,920
Don't know you're talking about.
And saying like maybe like when 

553
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,000
you this, maybe that maybe like 
there's a reason why there was 

554
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,360
friction between the you 2 and 
Kay was like, no, you're my 

555
00:25:10,360 --> 00:25:15,240
friend, be on my side. 
And it's like, okay girl, OK, 

556
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:17,240
and then. 
When she doesn't have, I don't 

557
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,120
know, the spine to to stay come 
with that same energy. 

558
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:23,400
When Giselle brings it out, it's
like, you know you were 

559
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,120
posturing for Giselle because 
you're want to give Giselle the 

560
00:25:26,120 --> 00:25:28,640
energy she wants for being on 
the show. 

561
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,600
Like if you're going to do that,
then when Giselle brings it back

562
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,760
to you in front of this person, 
you. 

563
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,160
Need instead of being I forgot 
that I said shin check. 

564
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:41,320
OK, yeah, Shin check is a very. 
I'd never heard it before. 

565
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,280
I've heard it, but it's not 
something you hear all the time,

566
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,240
so. 
She has never heard it, that's 

567
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:49,840
for sure. 
She has never heard a lot of 

568
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,880
things, I'm sure. 
Yeah, yeah. 

569
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,320
What? 
Language, all they're speaking. 

570
00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:55,560
So. 
So it was just. 

571
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:57,720
It was a dumb fight. 
Yeah. 

572
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,720
Glad I didn't go beyond that. 
And like, Cage, like, we've been

573
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,800
friends 20 years, OK. 
You've been friends 20 years. 

574
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,480
So just like you then. 
Yeah. 

575
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,000
You know, she's not coming at 
you. 

576
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,560
She defended you at Ashley's 
just to glow up blue, Marty. 

577
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,000
So like, I don't get why. 
Yeah, playing Devil. 

578
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,840
It's actually. 
She wants to get Giselle's favor

579
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,240
and. 
Also, what else has Kay got 

580
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:21,560
going? 
On yeah, true. 

581
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,440
And then that will bring me to 
Tia, which we got to meet her a 

582
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,600
little bit more. 
And her myriad children. 

583
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,480
Right, four children. 
Four children there's. 

584
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,480
A lot of children. 
There's Giselle going over to 

585
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:33,760
Tia. 
'S yes, I. 

586
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,720
Don't know why I thought it was 
Wendy for a second, but it was 

587
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,800
because she's like, oh, I met a 
twin mother, you know, they've 

588
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,720
been through it. 
Fruit and fruit. 

589
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,880
It's like footballers wives. 
Did you ever watch football? 

590
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,680
No, no. 
Oh, so good. 

591
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:48,320
So good. 
Yeah. 

592
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:52,240
So I said this to Jeff. 
Tia reminded me of Kim Coles 

593
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,440
doing a bit. 
Like Kim Coles playing Sinclair,

594
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,960
playing English. 
Yes. 

595
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,840
Because it just seemed like, Is 
that really how you speak? 

596
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,320
And I'm, I, I, you know, and I, 
that's the one thing that I 

597
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,680
also, I, I, I hate falling into 
that kind of stereotype of 

598
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,560
everyone hears that British 
accent and thinks that 

599
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,240
everyone's just so immediately 
smart and posh and da, da, da, 

600
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,080
well. 
You say also lead with like, I'm

601
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,040
royalty, Yeah, like I'm the 
latest of some Prince in 

602
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,240
Nigeria, you know? 
Yeah. 

603
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,800
And then so like, the accent 
does throw, you know, does throw

604
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,360
us because we're American. 
But I'm sure, you know, if we 

605
00:27:26,360 --> 00:27:28,320
were English, we'd be like, 
whatever, it's an accent. 

606
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,880
But it's very, it's funny when 
people do a British accents 

607
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,920
either like very posh like that 
or it's like, you know. 

608
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:39,080
Like Govna, you know, yes, 
Shannon Bedor version. 

609
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,920
So yeah, I mean, I thought, I 
thought it was lovely. 

610
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,840
I liked her attitude. 
I think she is doing a good job 

611
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:53,000
telling us that she grew up very
privileged and very well spoiled

612
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,560
and pampered. 
Like her necklace means, you 

613
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,440
know, pampered from the womb or 
whatever. 

614
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,080
I could have without that and 
that her husband's from the 

615
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,240
South S South side of Chicago 
try saying that three times 

616
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,360
fast. 
And so they like level each 

617
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:10,760
other out and with these four 
kids and yadda yadda yadda. 

618
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:15,200
I don't, you know, I like not to
compare in contrast, but I just 

619
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:19,080
felt like more connected. 
We've seen more of Angel, right.

620
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,360
And also like, you know, just 
like personal scenes that we 

621
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:23,360
have, we've always seen Tia in 
relation to the other women. 

622
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,800
True. 
So we have to get to know her 

623
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,720
more and feel what her story is 
besides selling high end real 

624
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,680
real estate. 
I mean, I think it, I think 

625
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:34,520
it'll be interesting because, 
you know, again, I do like a 

626
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:38,000
housewife that is richer than 
God and like really doesn't need

627
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,000
the money. 
And I do feel like that both 

628
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,840
Angel and Tia do have that level
where they're just have more, 

629
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:46,240
more money than they actually, 
you know, need or at least 

630
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,320
access. 
To it that's kitchen seemed 

631
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,160
really small to Richard Richard 
than God. 

632
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,680
Well, true. 
All right, So maybe not that 

633
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,840
much. 
And we also didn't see like the 

634
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,920
full house, it just seemed like 
we were picking and choose any 

635
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,520
like a full rundown of the 
house. 

636
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,000
Need the tour? 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

637
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,240
We'll reserve that for later. 
Yeah, I'm going back, back over 

638
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:08,280
to Angel a little bit. 
I do feel that it's possible and

639
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,960
maybe just my hope, but I do 
feel it's possible that if Angel

640
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:16,560
and Giselle or Ashley were to 
kind of butt heads that I, I 

641
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,880
don't think that Angel would be 
nice about it. 

642
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,560
I think she would know he would 
stand up for herself and just be

643
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,320
like y'all are crazy because 
you're just. 

644
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,920
Well, we see like she's going up
against somebody in the trailer.

645
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,240
I don't know who, but I don't I 
wouldn't. 

646
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,440
She definitely had said she's 
cool and she seems down to 

647
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,760
earth. 
But I think if you mess with 

648
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,040
her, she will like come at you, 
like don't go there, right, 

649
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,000
right. 
So that's why she's like, no one

650
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:41,520
shouldn't check me. 
I don't do that. 

651
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Like I could see her. 
It's like swatting Kiara down 

652
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,680
like a family. 
We should talk about the third 

653
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:53,480
friend in the room, Cookie. 
Oh my gosh, like I I OK cookie. 

654
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,120
I mean, I she was in the first 
part of the episode. 

655
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,120
She's in the at the party too, 
right? 

656
00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:58,840
The bloom. 
Party. 

657
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,320
She's the Bloom party because 
Giselle rolled up to her and 

658
00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,800
said, yeah, you know, it's 
Karen's birthday coming up, 

659
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,560
whatever. 
I, I, I like that she's kind of 

660
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:10,560
our outlet, you know, our Kim, 
our, our Karen update, you know?

661
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,920
Right. 
Well, it's coming out like Joe 

662
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,640
said. 
I understand that Karen is only 

663
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,240
talking to a few people and it's
it's strategic and, you know, 

664
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,120
whatever. 
And it's basically Cookie, Ray 

665
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,800
and Raven. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

666
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,600
And her son. 
So totally makes sense. 

667
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,400
But yeah, I mean, we'll get to 
the end part. 

668
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,280
But like, yeah, Cookie, there 
was a lot of cookie. 

669
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:33,920
Yeah, I well, and then a lot of 
cookie. 

670
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,120
They even made the joke about 
their about her her cookies. 

671
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:38,960
Like the the camera was like a 
zoom. 

672
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,560
Because Ashley made that joke. 
Yeah, I saw all three of you. 

673
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,200
So. 
Like, calm down, cameraman. 

674
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,400
Yeah, yeah, let me get that. 
Let me get that zoom going. 

675
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,600
So, yeah, but I mean, it's good.
Good to know that they went to 

676
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,040
that restaurant and all about 
the French toast. 

677
00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Oh, I want to go to Thai Ho's 
now. 

678
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,120
I want some French toast to look
really good and like it's a cute

679
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,840
little like it's a small. 
Diner Place. 

680
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:08,440
Yeah, so I don't know why Kiara 
was wearing sequins. 

681
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,280
Like she's like dripping in 
sequins. 

682
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,200
Right. 
And like her in her. 

683
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,600
Yeah. 
What else did we? 

684
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,480
See. 
Like divorced, not divorced. 

685
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,360
I don't care. 
I just like Stacey. 

686
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,720
Carry on. 
Yeah, I. 

687
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Don't like? 
Yeah, I don't like the way in 

688
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,920
which Giselle pretended to be 
above it all at like, whatever, 

689
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,560
I'm over this. 
Like it's not relevant to me 

690
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:34,760
anymore because I don't want it.
Well. 

691
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,440
Because Giselle knows she's not 
going to break her, which I 

692
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,520
really like. 
Stacey is sticking to her truth.

693
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,560
Her truth and she's not going to
move away from that. 

694
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,200
So that's why I was like, that's
why she said like I don't care 

695
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,080
anymore because I'm not going to
shake her and she also isn't 

696
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:57,040
going to rile her up. 
I think Stacey calling Ashley 

697
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,160
the devil is as close as we've 
got to think Stacey like get 

698
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,840
riled up, which is pretty low 
key roll up. 

699
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000
So that's why I think Giselle 
moved on from it. 

700
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,640
But yeah, whatever she's got 
sneaky breath. 

701
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:12,680
Let's if I was her, I would get 
my agent on the phone and be 

702
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,520
like I need to do like Outwitz 
commercial something so I can 

703
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,160
make money off of this. 
And be like, thanks Ash. 

704
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,680
Exactly, and still have more 
money than Ashley. 

705
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,000
Yeah, yeah. 
Oh, we got to see Ashley getting

706
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,880
ready for the White House 
Correspondents dinner and that 

707
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,960
dress with her sister over. 
Rights. 

708
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:34,000
That seems to be maybe part of 
her story or sister being yeah 

709
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,880
or whatever. 
Probably to help take care of 

710
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,680
the kids I'm assuming. 
Rights right, which is going to 

711
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,040
college. 
I didn't realize that Dylan was 

712
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,560
so red headed that that kid had 
some red hair. 

713
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,200
Very much so. 
Both cute, cute kids. 

714
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,480
Thank you. 
Considering their fathers, 

715
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:53,200
Michael Barb, yes, but. 
Yeah, and then Josh, her other 

716
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,800
child, I mean, boyfriend, booty 
call, whatever. 

717
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,400
I don't know. 
I always stuck with dude from 

718
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,400
Love Hotel. 
Well, you you like older men. 

719
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,360
That's two years older. 
Well, yeah, I mean every like 

720
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,040
old men smaller than that I'm 
sure. 

721
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Not like you were a daddy chaser
or anything like. 

722
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:12,960
That. 
No, that's just. 

723
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,360
We weren't like a new. 
Some of the daddies. 

724
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,280
Sorry, we're we're getting all 
inside jokey here with people 

725
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,520
that you guys don't. 
Know have it like forever a day 

726
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,480
I'm OK with that you. 
Just send a link to the podcast.

727
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,160
I tried to invite him to the 
wedding and he was like blah 

728
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:33,120
blah blah I'm in Australia. 
Yeah, well, I'd stay in 

729
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,960
Australia too if I could, but 
yeah, it was kind of neat. 

730
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,720
Ashley looked really good. 
That dress was. 

731
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Really good. 
Whatever. 

732
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:42,920
End of sentence. 
Josh. 

733
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,000
Yeah, she was like very pretty. 
Yeah. 

734
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,400
Service is a crank and would say
beautiful gowns. 

735
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,040
Amazing. 
She was like holding on to his 

736
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,360
hand though. 
Yeah, he was not let that thing 

737
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,920
go. 
Like, can he just drive? 

738
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:55,840
Yeah. 
Like she's like. 

739
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,640
And I don't need their little 
like double entendre like and 

740
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:02,920
then. 
The white sheets Who has white 

741
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,880
sheets and outside of a hotel? 
Yeah, I don't know. 

742
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,199
I like some color on my sheets. 
Yeah, I agree. 

743
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,960
And our Porsche pampered by 
Porsche sheets. 

744
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,800
None of them are whites. 
No, they're not. 

745
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,639
We maybe should get a set. 
White sheet that's like inside 

746
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,280
the maturity. 
Apparently. 

747
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,480
I thought that was white 
underwear. 

748
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,440
I thought for sure she was going
to go rag him about his shoes. 

749
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,400
That the cameraman. 
Zoomed in on. 

750
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,679
And they showed. 
But then what was the other 

751
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:30,639
thing she said he needed to do? 
Oh no product in his hair like 

752
00:34:31,159 --> 00:34:31,639
first. 
Off. 

753
00:34:31,639 --> 00:34:34,679
He's a little sideshow, Bobby. 
He is, but I mean, I'm sure 

754
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,600
without all that product it's 
even crazier. 

755
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:37,639
You know, that's what I'm 
saying. 

756
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,120
It's a very it's a little 
sideshow. 

757
00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:42,719
But at the same time, like 
you're an older woman, don't be 

758
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,600
telling him how to like that 
just seems very mothering and it

759
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,800
just creeps me out a little bit.
Like I would never just be all 

760
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,440
like mentoring the person that 
I'm dating mentoring so weird 

761
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,040
Let. 
Me give you some advice, kid? 

762
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,560
Yeah. 
Well, you're my age when you're 

763
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,600
in lesbian as long as I've been.
It's like not that much younger 

764
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,920
than her, it's only like 5 or 
so. 

765
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,560
Something like that. 
But I guess it's 20s, she's in 

766
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,280
her 30s. 
Whatever. 

767
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,280
Ashley's gonna Ashley. 
Yeah, that's true. 

768
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,560
There's something oh, Stacey 
bringing up. 

769
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,840
So what Giselle was over was 
Giselle was Stacey, you know, 

770
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,440
showing something, a document 
itself. 

771
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,120
I was like, whatever, she made 
that up. 

772
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:26,920
If she says she's divorced 
letter be divorced. 

773
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,080
How's it affecting? 
I know, I like that. 

774
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:31,440
I actually tried to explain that
like you know, it's, you know 

775
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,480
very much about principle and. 
Girl, girl, you were on the 

776
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,560
wrong show if you're very about 
principle, okay? 

777
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,760
Like we're not about principle 
here. 

778
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,920
You. 
No, and also like I, I mean, I 

779
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,720
guess where you're right, 
Giselle's not like Stacey's not 

780
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:48,080
going to admit to it. 
She didn't has yet to admit to 

781
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,920
paying TJ, which they seem to 
have gotten this, you know, all 

782
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,840
the smoking guns they could for 
that and she's still like 

783
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,040
whatever, I don't know what 
you're talking. 

784
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,480
About also the track that she 
that she took of like, I don't 

785
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,280
know what you're talking about, 
so how can I speak on it? 

786
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:02,320
Brilliant. 
Yeah. 

787
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,440
Yeah. 
Because also you can't show her 

788
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:08,400
your receipts because you saw 
them allegedly at the essence 

789
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,080
like fair festival, what have 
you and and now but you didn't 

790
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,560
take a screenshot so you can't 
say like this is the document 

791
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,560
saying that TJ is suing her. 
Well, until they're re 

792
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,000
explaining it. 
Also, I was just like, that 

793
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,600
story doesn't sound very 
legitimate of like. 

794
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,000
So here you are at this essence 
ball, right? 

795
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,840
You're just here at this event 
and someone walks up to you and 

796
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:31,320
they call I've been looking for 
you. 

797
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,600
Let me show you these documents 
like you either knew that person

798
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,360
was going to be there. 
They knew you were going to be 

799
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,400
there. 
That had to have been 

800
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,040
coordinated. 
There's just no, I don't. 

801
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,880
I don't care how, I don't care 
how random their lives are. 

802
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,720
Small, worldly it is. 
No one's going to be all like 

803
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,720
Ashley Darby. 
Boy, did you? 

804
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,960
And why did you sit down at the 
right table today? 

805
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,920
Let me show you something you 
know. 

806
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,360
Also, too, it's like, so just 
because she's best friends with 

807
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:59,840
TJ, he sent her that document? 
Like, I don't understand. 

808
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,080
Yeah, the chain of events and 
whatever. 

809
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,520
Just messy, messy, messy. 
It's it's. 

810
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,200
I don't care. 
But yeah, I hope, I hope Ashley 

811
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,120
takes a page from Giselle and 
just says let's move on past 

812
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,360
this. 
But no, now she's trying a 

813
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,560
different way. 
Now she's saying that like she 

814
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,480
heard and that's the last scene.
Italia host. 

815
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,320
Oh right, I heard that that 
Stacey's trying to get Chris 

816
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:27,360
Samuels who is her friend 
Monique AKA one of the best like

817
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:30,720
Potomac housewives there's been.
You know my friend Monique, the 

818
00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:32,000
one who was on the show for five
years. 

819
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:34,000
Yeah, you know her. 
You know my friend. 

820
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,280
So they got divorced since when 
he's been off the show. 

821
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:44,800
And so Ashley is saying that her
friend said to her that Stacy 

822
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:48,560
was trying to get Chris's 
information from this friend. 

823
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,800
Maybe she was looking at him to 
be ATJ, you know, she was to pay

824
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,760
him to be her her boyfriend last
season. 

825
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,320
Chris says like football money. 
Well, you know, you can always 

826
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,120
use more. 
I mean no one says no to more 

827
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,440
money. 
I mean what the ask is? 

828
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,040
I mean. 
Can can you explain to me why 

829
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,040
Cookie, it would seem very 
weird. 

830
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:08,120
Cookie got a text. 
Oh, it's from Chris. 

831
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,200
Chris who? 
Chris Samuels. 

832
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:10,840
Oh, thank you. 
Chris Samuels. 

833
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,200
What the hell is that about? 
Are you not, like, how scripted 

834
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,920
are you? 
Yeah, Like, oh, well, now that 

835
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,640
you've brought up Chris Samuels,
now we have a good. 

836
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:20,200
I didn't. 
She didn't. 

837
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:21,960
We didn't even need that. 
She could have just said, like, 

838
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,160
you know, at my balloon ball, I 
heard this thing. 

839
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,440
Right, Stacey. 
There was a way to bring that 

840
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,200
around I didn't need. 
Cookie. 

841
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,800
Now I want to know why Cookie 
and Chris Samuels are texting 

842
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,840
together like I'm. 
Well, because like, Karen was 

843
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,800
good friends with Monique. 
And OK. 

844
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,360
Chris so makes sense, Cookie 
Karen's good for I don't know, 

845
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,320
I. 
Mean I will. 

846
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,280
I'll go with that. 
We'll see. 

847
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,880
Like you know, Cookie must know 
Cherise and Cherise was the one 

848
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,320
who brought Monique on the show,
so I don't. 

849
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:52,440
And then they turned on each 
other. 

850
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:56,440
But whatever, it was just. 
Again, I don't care. 

851
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,880
I don't need a Stephanie a 
Stephanie. 

852
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,640
I don't need a Stacey. 
Gotcha season. 

853
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,200
Like yes, they're just move on. 
They're throwing everything at 

854
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,640
her, trying to make it stick. 
And she's just like, and now 

855
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,400
we're going to see, well, I'm 
glad we're going to see Monique 

856
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,440
next week. 
She's now a friend of and 

857
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:13,000
they're going to sit down for 
dinner and really hash this out.

858
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,680
And I, I hope it doesn't go the 
way that we expected to go with 

859
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,560
like Monique getting pissed off,
like you're going after my 

860
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,720
ex-husband. 
Like if I was thinking, I'd be 

861
00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:22,240
like, I know how how she 
operates. 

862
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:25,200
I know how Giselle operates. 
I know how this show operates. 

863
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,040
I'm not going to make this my 
thing. 

864
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,920
So and also and it's her 
ex-husband. 

865
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,520
If it's your ex, you'd be like 
go ahead and have him right? 

866
00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:35,000
Right. 
That is, that is used Good. 

867
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,880
Exactly, like he's her ex for a 
reason, right? 

868
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,400
Like she's not trying to get 
back with him like. 

869
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,440
Stacey's feeding. 
Her ex and we don't know the 

870
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,720
timeline of like TJ and Chris 
and whatever, Yeah. 

871
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,280
It's just, it's just dumb. 
It seems like a reach. 

872
00:39:50,280 --> 00:39:52,640
Like I don't know why they're so
obsessed with Stacey. 

873
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,760
I mean. 
Why they're so focused on 

874
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,600
Stacey? 
Oh, I know they don't have 

875
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,240
storylines, right? 
Yes. 

876
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:02,160
They don't have anything on 
their own to talk about. 

877
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:05,640
But also they just I mean I 
never really wanted to think it 

878
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,320
was true. 
Like I never understood why they

879
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:14,280
were always so anti. 
No anti Wendy, like I didn't. 

880
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:17,680
And then anti Candace. 
Yeah. 

881
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,000
But like, they really do try to 
ice people out. 

882
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,400
They really like play, producer 
and casting. 

883
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,120
Yeah, if they don't want to sit 
at, you know, the the cool girls

884
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,280
table with Giselle, if they have
no interest in that, then then 

885
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,320
they want to if you're. 
Not going to bow down or play 

886
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,960
the game. 
The Giselle Giselle wants you to

887
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,000
play the game and now Ashley, 
because Ashley is like the new 

888
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,240
Robins Giselle. 
Then you're going to be iced out

889
00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,480
and it's so dumb. 
That's not what this show is 

890
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,600
about, right? 
It's about like, you have 

891
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,600
friction naturally, not like, 
why friction? 

892
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,880
She said. 
Something wrong to me now? 

893
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,840
I'm gonna like get rid of. 
Her and really, if we start 

894
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,640
talking about the numbers, sheer
numbers, we're gonna play this 

895
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,120
like it's, you know, traitors or
something. 

896
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,760
Really it's just Ashley and 
Giselle now with a little bit of

897
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,360
Kiarna like kind of on this 
team, like mean girl thing. 

898
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,880
Because like, Wendy doesn't 
care, right? 

899
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,400
Angel and TR are too new, right?
And then who else is there? 

900
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,480
There isn't. 
There isn't. 

901
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,000
Are they behind me? 
Who's behind me? 

902
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,720
Who else is there? 
Have I missed nobody else? 

903
00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:15,120
Yeah, well cuz we're on the 
8:00. 

904
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:17,280
Games. 
So I guess the majority of the 

905
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,520
cast is on Giselle's whole game,
but you know, without Wendy and 

906
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,320
then the new girls that. 
I think Tia will be on the side 

907
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,520
because she's Giselle's friend. 
I think she will be like, oh, I 

908
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,280
think Stacey's lying too. 
Yeah. 

909
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,120
I just. 
I don't. 

910
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,040
Why do you care so much? 
She is, again, she's not lying 

911
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,600
on you, Right? 
Stop trying to get this whole 

912
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,680
idea of like we care about it 
integrity or principles because 

913
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,160
you don't because you were 
married to Michael frickin 

914
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:47,040
Darby, the biggest liar. 
I'm on grinder doucheface that 

915
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,040
has ever been seen on housewives
so. 

916
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,680
He's the biggest doucheface on 
housewife. 

917
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,840
Not the biggest, not on Potomac.
OK, All right. 

918
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,320
Like there's still, there's 
still Slade that's a. 

919
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,800
Competition. 
No, Slade, I think is probably 

920
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:02,880
the biggest douche doucheface, 
but like, you do not care about 

921
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:04,920
integrity when you've been 
married for so many years to 

922
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:05,760
that man. 
Yeah. 

923
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,360
So just hush. 
Yeah. 

924
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,240
So I also, I think that if they 
were to just focus on something 

925
00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:17,840
else, if if Stacy's as big of a 
liar as they make her out to be,

926
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,720
she will go ahead and trip 
herself. 

927
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:21,320
Up exactly. 
So many other things let. 

928
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,600
Her lies will always come out. 
It will always come out. 

929
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,160
Let her do it to herself instead
of trying to get her, get her, 

930
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,120
get her every time, right? 
It's tiresome. 

931
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:31,000
Right, because apparently you 
allegedly played the long game 

932
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,440
with Wendy because you knew all 
along and now this has come out.

933
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,920
Yeah. 
So the smugness is going to be 

934
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,560
so. 
Awful. 

935
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,320
This smugness Giselle is so her 
smugness. 

936
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,520
The Bravo con panel is gonna, 
because they're both gonna be 

937
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,520
like, smug, smug. 
Yeah and Giselle's not even 

938
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,800
gonna say anything about it. 
She's just to be like smug and 

939
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,120
not say anything about how she 
knew or whatever. 

940
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,560
She's gonna have 0 details make 
it seem like she knows. 

941
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,280
All shade about, you know, and 
whatever. 

942
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,400
So lame. 
Is Robin gonna be it? 

943
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,000
Yeah, she is. 
Well, I think because of 

944
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,560
traders. 
Oh, Oh, yeah, yeah. 

945
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:08,320
That's. 
Whatever I was. 

946
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,480
Going to say. 
I think I hear you have to pay 

947
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,120
$20 though to get into her 
panel. 

948
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,320
And it ain't worth it. 
Yeah, sorry. 

949
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,120
Go behind that pay wall, honey. 
Not paying it. 

950
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:26,000
There was a scene with Wendy and
Stacey in the trailer Where? 

951
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,080
Where Stacey's like. 
I have to admit that I lied. 

952
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,240
And I thought that it was going 
to be her saying about the 

953
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,400
cannabis thing. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

954
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,200
But she didn't say it like, I 
wonder, like I clearly, unless 

955
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,720
it was a Frankenbite, she was 
like, I have to tell you that I 

956
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:43,840
lied in at the reunion. 
So I don't know what that was 

957
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,240
about. 
But in any case, the fact that 

958
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:51,040
she she just said like I got the
idea from you right, because you

959
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:52,760
didn't have the idea before you 
made that's. 

960
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:57,400
Why I like Wendy's so much is 
that she's like, OK, you have 

961
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,080
the business, good for you. 
Also, she's like, we're trying 

962
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,360
to work on our friendship, so 
I'm like, not going to be like, 

963
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:04,840
what the hell, right? 
What the hell with Eddie? 

964
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,960
Happy Eddie or happy Stacy? 
And what the hell with like, now

965
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,480
I'm back with my husband and 
this weird timeline with TJ. 

966
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,560
Yeah, she's like, I'm letting 
that go, you know, and just 

967
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,440
moving forward. 
Because also like, it doesn't 

968
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,680
change anything. 
It's not like, oh, you're mad at

969
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,400
me because I have my own 
cannabis line. 

970
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,480
I'll shut down today like. 
Right. 

971
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,160
And it's also like Stacy's not 
trying to like, steal Eddie's 

972
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,760
workers. 
That whole scene with Giselle 

973
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,960
meeting with that dude who just 
happened to be there. 

974
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:30,280
And so like, oh, you Remember 
Me? 

975
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:31,880
I was the one who said that 
Stacy approached me. 

976
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,600
I told her hell no, I don't want
to work with you. 

977
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,480
I didn't need that. 
I don't need this pylon. 

978
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,480
Don't make this a thing like 
Orange County with with Katie, 

979
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,320
like you don't want to do that. 
But these women, they're not 

980
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,800
seeing it. 
They're so because. 

981
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,960
It's what's worked for them 
every time. 

982
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:53,320
Right, and they're not seeing 
like when they're in it, it must

983
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,880
be like, oh, this is going to 
play so well on our but like 

984
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,520
when you what? 
And also, given their history of

985
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,280
ICE people out, it's like, do 
you not see what you're doing? 

986
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,920
Well, I mean that that's I think
nothing could be if they keep 

987
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,920
icing people out and they keep 
trying to do the same thing. 

988
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,520
I'm sure Bravo had a 
conversation what they're saying

989
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,920
like like, hey, you need to stop
doing this. 

990
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,080
And if she's. 
Not a producer. 

991
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,200
Does it again. 
Then I'm sure it's going to be 

992
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,680
like, OK, well, we're going in a
different direction, right? 

993
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:24,120
Although Giselle, she'll be 
around forever. 

994
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:28,120
Giselle was, yeah. 
Like, I don't know, I'd get to 

995
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,880
compare her to, but yeah. 
I just feel like if you take 

996
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,520
away all of her minions and it 
was just Giselle, maybe that 

997
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,280
would be good. 
But like, as long as she's got 

998
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,760
a, you know, a sidekick, I think
she's going to continue to do. 

999
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,840
This she will protect Ashley 
because without Robin. 

1000
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:47,480
Right. 
Yeah. 

1001
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,040
Right. 
So it would be interesting 

1002
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:54,560
though to see, Yeah, like I will
take Ashley over Robin too. 

1003
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,920
I don't need Robin to come back,
don't need it. 

1004
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,720
Don't really necessarily need 
Candace come back. 

1005
00:45:59,720 --> 00:46:01,960
I think she should be happy and 
doing her own thing. 

1006
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,760
It's probably too much. 
I think we probably will be 

1007
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:09,040
losing Wendy given given how 
this goes. 

1008
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,120
I mean, I know that Jen Shaw 
shot a whole season after being 

1009
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,200
accused within the show to the 
reunion. 

1010
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,320
So I don't know. 
We have to wait to see how this 

1011
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,120
plays out. 
Whatever, whatever. 

1012
00:46:21,720 --> 00:46:24,840
Yeah, it, I mean it could also, 
I mean, I could also see, and 

1013
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:27,960
this is pure conjecture, I could
also see Wendy taking the the 

1014
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,760
line of I was just doing what my
husband told me to do, 

1015
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,440
especially because they have 
that e-mail from him and. 

1016
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:37,440
Oh, that's so bad to like. 
Get towards their insurance 

1017
00:46:37,480 --> 00:46:40,960
maximum which does not look good
but. 

1018
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,800
Do they have the same exact same
charges or I feel like they're a

1019
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,720
little bit different? 
I think they're different 

1020
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:47,640
because they don't have as much 
evidence against him 

1021
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,920
specifically is the problem. 
Isn't when they both have filed 

1022
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,720
a a claim one and also both file
the reports to the police about 

1023
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:56,880
the robbery? 
Yeah, I would think so. 

1024
00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,760
I don't know, I didn't read. 
I didn't read in great detail. 

1025
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,440
But I bet you the Bravo doc, 
it's gonna have some good info. 

1026
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,360
Yeah. 
So I'm sure I'll keep an eye out

1027
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,760
for them when they when they 
have it. 

1028
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:06,880
So yeah, it'll be interesting to
see. 

1029
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:11,040
So overall good episode it. 
Was fine. 

1030
00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:15,680
I mean, I thought I like last 
week's bit better, but I think 

1031
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,880
it's whatever. 
They all can't be amazing. 

1032
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:21,000
I'm probably just excited that 
I'm awake right now for a Sunday

1033
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,600
night that I took that little 
nap did. 

1034
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:25,240
You take that little nap. 
It was like a nap, hey. 

1035
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,400
Buying a car is tough, okay. 
So you're on a dealership is 

1036
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,240
rough y'all? 
So rough. 

1037
00:47:31,240 --> 00:47:33,800
It's a it's, it's, it's a like a
third world country. 

1038
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,640
They need a vending machine. 
They need a vending machine. 

1039
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,200
They do. 
They kept offering me coffee. 

1040
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,200
I'm like, how much coffee do you
think I need? 

1041
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:41,920
It's 12:00 in the afternoon. 
I'm like, I'm going to be 

1042
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,000
buzzing around here and I would 
have just gotten jittery and 

1043
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,160
passed out on their desk. 
It would have been awful. 

1044
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,600
But yeah, no, no. 
I just think that I don't know, 

1045
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,720
I really liked, I liked Angel a 
lot. 

1046
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,520
Yes, I feel like good warm 
feeling. 

1047
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,800
Right. 
And I feel like the the new 

1048
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,640
ladies are giving good. 
I think if positioned correctly,

1049
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,400
if the editors don't edit them 
into oblivion, I think they will

1050
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,360
be a good addition to the show 
And I think they can do enough 

1051
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,520
hopefully have enough going on 
that because Karen does not have

1052
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,320
enough going on kind of sway the
pendulum her way. 

1053
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,120
But I think these two might. 
It's funny. 

1054
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,680
I feel like I feel like Angel 
has the ability to eclipse 

1055
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,080
Kiana. 
Oh yeah. 

1056
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:26,840
Oh yeah. 
Which would be interesting 

1057
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,600
because I would, I wouldn't. 
But I think she could also have 

1058
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,600
the ability to be like, I'm not 
going to put much effort into 

1059
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,120
this because I got a 2 million 
or $4 million house in Colorado.

1060
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,880
I want to get back to, you know,
well, they bought it for two, 

1061
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:40,520
but then they it's. 
Probably worth like so. 

1062
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,840
OK, so pretty. 
So pretty. 

1063
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,200
You've talked about like. 
I love Colorado. 

1064
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,680
Yeah, you like Denver? 
I love Denver, Co is the most 

1065
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,840
California State outside of 
California I've ever been to. 

1066
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:56,200
It just Denver itself is like a 
feels like California. 

1067
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,960
I've never been. 
I'd be curious about it. 

1068
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,560
Not in, but that's the cold 
weather though. 

1069
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:03,880
But it doesn't stick there. 
I mean it's. 

1070
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,840
Not like Chicago. 
Yeah, it's not like Chicago. 

1071
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:08,200
I mean, it does get cold and 
there is a winter and everything

1072
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:11,560
and it does get damn ass cold. 
But like it's not, you know, 

1073
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,120
you, it's not the worst. 
It's not you're not getting like

1074
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,040
lake and snow, ice, stuff like 
that. 

1075
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,400
But yeah, we would leave 
California. 

1076
00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:20,000
But I always think like, you 
know, if we were to, what would 

1077
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,520
be like a good alternative? 
So yeah. 

1078
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,560
I do Denver. 
So anyway, we're rambling now. 

1079
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,080
Yeah. 
So the next week's episode, I, 

1080
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,240
you know, it looked a little 
messy. 

1081
00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:31,520
I didn't know what they're 
trying to get for Get To with 

1082
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,400
that preview, just other than 
Chris Samuels and Monique. 

1083
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,560
Well, they show up. 
So yes, it's it's going to be 

1084
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:38,400
the pride episode. 
We're Ashley. 

1085
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,880
Oh, that. 
Makes her drag king thing again 

1086
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:43,880
and then Monique shows up and 
then they go to dinner and the 

1087
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,000
whole Chris Samuels of it all 
and whatever. 

1088
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,600
That'll be interesting. 
I'm just glad Monique's back. 

1089
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,280
I really enjoyed Monique when 
she was on the show, curiously, 

1090
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,360
like how she's changed, you 
know, post divorce and whatnot. 

1091
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:57,400
And yeah. 
Has she got a groove back? 

1092
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,960
All right, we'll, we'll talk 
about that next. 

1093
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,080
Time until next time, her 
groove.