1 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives. 2 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,680 I'm Scott and I'm Jack and we just watched episode of The Real 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,040 Housewives of Orange County. Or Temecula? 4 00:00:23,080 --> 00:00:25,880 Or Beverly Hill. Beverly, yes, but not Beverly 5 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:29,000 Hill. But that was a good show. 6 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,400 I enjoyed this episode. It wasn't, you know, I'm 7 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,040 enjoying. Parts of it and parts of it were 8 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,920 watching than others. Yeah, yeah. 9 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:39,400 For those of you just joining us though, I forgot to mention 10 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,600 this, I because I've been camping for the last few days. 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,240 I haven't listened to our crossover episode with Bestie 12 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,440 Approved, So I was. Like I listened to the first 13 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:48,600 half and I was good. Well, not the first half. 14 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,480 Like I think part of it, Yeah, I was busy working yesterday. 15 00:00:52,480 --> 00:00:54,000 Yeah, I see. I need some time to like 16 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,040 actually sit down with it. I'm just got back from camping 17 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,520 and so I'm just kind of a little out of it today and trying to 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,040 settle back in. Because it's Saturday, Yeah. 19 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,160 It's not. It's not Thursday. 20 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,239 It's not. Thursday and I post OC so we're 21 00:01:05,239 --> 00:01:07,960 just catching up because you were gone Thursday and Friday. 22 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,840 Yeah, I'm telling you, you were gone because you don't. 23 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,720 Remember. I don't remember. 24 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,200 Yeah, no, I totally actually do remember this time you make it 25 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:14,600 seem. What are you trying to say? 26 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,400 That I'm an alcoholic. Like, like my father, but don't 27 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,440 talk about my father. You know, so that whole thing, 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,400 yeah, I don't, I don't feel like Tamara was trying to get. 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Like. Anything shady, I think if 30 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,280 anything can because Shannon kind of made mention that like 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,680 she's gone through this and she's had a, you know, had a 32 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,320 rough childhood for XY and ZI think that is stuff that she 33 00:01:37,320 --> 00:01:41,440 probably had told Tamara about in the past and Tamara was just 34 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,600 trying to be supportive of. But then I guess bringing up 35 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,120 that whatever his face is drank a lot. 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:49,800 I. Was saying it's Dan the man, 37 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:51,560 that's that it's something showing the. 38 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,400 Machine, the machine, yes, yeah. So I can see bringing up on 39 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,680 camera was a little bit, you know, shady of sorts. 40 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,640 But it was shady, but it didn't need to happen. 41 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,360 I will say, OK, I love this whole thing. 42 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,440 I, if I was if I was Tamara, I wouldn't have said anything 43 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:06,760 about the dad. I would just listen to this shit 44 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:10,039 and tell her story, which was very, you know, sad about, you 45 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:12,840 know, her parents breaking up and whatnot. 46 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:14,320 I would just let her tell the story. 47 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,720 Don't add anything. Don't try to relate. 48 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,320 I think the one thing that Jen said it did make sense was that 49 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,040 Tamra is like someone's like, hey, hey, hey, and like the 50 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,400 person is not interested. So after a while, you said to 51 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,840 like, sit back and be like, not try so much, right? 52 00:02:30,920 --> 00:02:32,400 You know, I think she's tried enough. 53 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:34,280 I think she's apologized. I think she's taking 54 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,760 accountability. Shannon's not open to receive 55 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,440 it, so just let it be and try to work around her. 56 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,680 I liked Jen's analogy for sure. That it's like Tamara's like a 57 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,200 dude trying to pick up on him who doesn't want to be picked 58 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,800 up. Like, yeah, I get it. 59 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:52,320 I know you want to be all exciting, but I just want to 60 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,200 cook my little thing over here for breakfast. 61 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,200 Leave me alone. Right, like I'm trying to make 62 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,480 my hash brown muffin, right? He's like, I don't want to 63 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,520 engage. And you're over here tat calling 64 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:06,280 me of sorts of stuff so. Basically so yeah, there's just 65 00:03:06,280 --> 00:03:09,640 like, I mean, the recap of the relationship is like it's not 66 00:03:09,640 --> 00:03:11,760 going anywhere. And I think they just like just 67 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,200 stop. I I was fine with it. 68 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,720 Not I feel like they both last season like ended in a place of 69 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,320 like we're OK, but like this isn't going to go any further. 70 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:26,400 So I know camera's trying to like, you know, resolve, but 71 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,000 it's not resolving. So hopefully from here on should 72 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:32,960 just be like, let's keep it above surface like when Gina 73 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:37,880 said, Gina said, like I don't or someone is relaying with Gina 74 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,120 said I don't tell you my deep dark secrets of Tamara. 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,000 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, makes sense. 76 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,240 I wouldn't tell anybody on a reality show like deepest, 77 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,760 darkest secrets. But I think more said like, 78 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,360 let's keep this surface. Yeah, we're having fun. 79 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,800 We can relate about certain things, but we don't need to go 80 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,480 like into the trenches, right? Because you're like, we are 81 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,560 girls on a reality show together. 82 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,680 Let's. But I mean, Even so, like with 83 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,640 many regular friendships, like you have your friends that you 84 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:05,720 would actually tell stuff to and then you have some friends, 85 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,040 you're like, no, we're not like that exactly. 86 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,320 We're fun time. We have a fun time and that's 87 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,800 it. Right. 88 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,800 You're not capable of, you know, in digesting any of my, yeah, 89 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,000 deep personal information. I don't and I don't get with 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,399 that. Yeah. 91 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,600 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, I was. 92 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,960 It's so true that Shannon wasn't more irked by Gina because Gina 93 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:29,400 kept coming, not coming at her. But just like, I'm concerned. 94 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,480 I have concern. And I'll be like, what are you 95 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,400 trying to say? Like, do you kind of like go off 96 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,240 the deep? End. 97 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:38,320 Basically they say that they're worried about her becoming an 98 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,600 old lonely dog. Like, yeah, yeah, dog, woman, 99 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,400 alcoholic. Yeah, just like talking to her 100 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,440 dog and she's nothing else and she's going to like self harm. 101 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:46,840 Like I don't know what they were trying. 102 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:49,720 To like, I mean, yeah, they were making it seem like there was 103 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:52,120 something dangerous about. She has loneliness. 104 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,600 Rights that kind like it's the first sign of like, I don't 105 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:58,000 think she's depressed and they give me what she is. 106 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,000 She isn't sure of that. So she's in therapy. 107 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,240 Like just maybe you find one. For multiple times a week, mind 108 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:09,280 you, multiple times a week that clear as if to sell. 109 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:11,880 You know the way it works is you go more than once. 110 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,520 That's what that's what Shannon was saying. 111 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,280 OK, that could've been a Dang, you know, where is there with 112 00:05:17,280 --> 00:05:19,640 that? When do we say And I go multiple 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,520 times. I think it was interesting when 114 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:23,880 when Shannon said my therapist didn't want me to come. 115 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Oh, yeah. Like, so why was she like, but 116 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,960 it's my work thing. I have to come or could she be 117 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:31,240 like, I went up for my therapist. 118 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,200 I can't go on this Temecula trip to Tamara. 119 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,560 Well then they all the alternative was to hang out with 120 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,840 Gretchen and Emily and Heather then and right, I guess that 121 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:42,520 would have been a fun time for. To stay home with Archie called 122 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,600 a day, That's her happy place. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't think I 123 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:48,760 don't think it's cool of all the women to be all like to be. 124 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,800 Oh, poor Shannon. She just stays at home with her 125 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:52,840 dog and you know, it's like. But she's so lonely. 126 00:05:52,840 --> 00:05:54,640 She's not a man. What if that's what she wants to 127 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:56,760 do? Right after having so many bad 128 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,040 relationships in a row, I think you shouldn't. 129 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,400 Yes, ultimately it'd be great if she has companion, companion if 130 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,240 she wants that. But if she's in a place where 131 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:08,160 she's like, I just want to do my sudoku and watch TV and hang out 132 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,920 with my dog, then let her have that. 133 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,600 Unless they're seeing what we think of something we're not 134 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,920 seeing and that she is actually sad. 135 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,680 But if she's sitting at home going like oh I did that sudoku 136 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,280 in 3rd and this is 90 seconds, I'm good, she's rating all of 137 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:23,560 her sudoku. I am not professed sudoku. 138 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,760 I don't know how you. Would love Sudoku. 139 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,960 Yeah, you would love it. Simply go on the math. 140 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,520 It's no, no math involved, just the play. 141 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,920 You'd see the numbers. It's all just but the numbers. 142 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,760 Nothing adds up to anything. You can only use one or zero 143 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,480 through 9 in each row or each column. 144 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,680 And then you figure out and anyway, we'll, we'll do some 145 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:41,400 stuff there. OK. 146 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,440 It's a fun time. I used to do, I had a Sudoku de 147 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,200 puzzle on my desk at work and they were varying degrees of 148 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,720 difficulty, but I used to do 1 every morning before I started 149 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,400 work because it would kind of turn my brain on. 150 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,880 Other times it would just piss me off because I'm like a 151 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,000 goddamn Sudoku and I just throw it to the ground because it was 152 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,280 too complicated. Because there's some that just 153 00:07:01,280 --> 00:07:05,800 aren't fun because they make you like figure out like, oh, well, 154 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:07,320 this number could be this or that. 155 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,360 And I'm like, I don't want to play that. 156 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,200 I want to play the nice ones where it's easy to fall and 157 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,560 plays like, well that can't be a 7 because that's A7. 158 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:17,160 I not the same thing but I have this game on my on my phone 159 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,400 where it's like you see the differences and you're trying to 160 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,640 like point out the difference in like 2 pictures. 161 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:24,080 Highlights on your phone. Basically, yeah. 162 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,880 It's like this is sad face, this is happy face. 163 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Like that's a difference. You have to point out like 12 or 164 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:33,720 13 differences and then. I love, I love, man, good old 165 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:34,880 adult highlights. Yeah, it's good. 166 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,400 I used to play. I used to play one of those Find 167 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:40,200 It games on my iPad back when I used it a lot. 168 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,760 But then I found that they were doing like, they were just 169 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:46,600 changing the contrast of an image. 170 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,560 So they're like, there was a bit like, where is it? 171 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,440 You can barely see a line there. And I was like, oh, screw that. 172 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:54,040 I was like into paying to have like hints for the game. 173 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,120 And I'm like, no, not playing this game anymore where they're 174 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,400 like hiding things in plain sight by making them invisible. 175 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:01,720 You literally are like, I'm not playing this game. 176 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,680 Yeah, I'm. Literally, I said not doing it. 177 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:05,560 Not doing it at all. Not stay. 178 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,440 So. That was just a Michael litter 179 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:13,680 and then that show like back and forth driving Gina and Jen crazy 180 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:17,960 with back and forth. I think Jen and and even if 181 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:21,400 she's like smacker in her professionals, Jen is on a good 182 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,520 surface level OK with with Tamara. 183 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,040 Gina's totally fine. She talked about Travis and all 184 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:29,160 that old. Stories seems that Jenna Jen 185 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,400 though is trying to be like find any excuse to the fact that she 186 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,440 was like I don't know Gina. I think that could have been a 187 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:38,559 dig what Tamara said about her father. 188 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,080 Like it's Tamara, please, you know, and. 189 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:42,440 You're right. OK, I take that back. 190 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:46,440 Yeah, Jenna's suddenly. She really wants to, but I think 191 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:49,880 then she hears Tamara's response to like, OK, maybe, maybe not. 192 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,120 Which sort of and funny, like if everybody, if the other Gina and 193 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,440 Shannon were like, I am totally cool with Tamara, we're all 194 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,000 right, we're gonna be like crap now I'm right. 195 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,680 Doesn't like that, right? So whatever. 196 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:07,880 So meanwhile, in Beverly Hills, Heather Dubrow takes them from. 197 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,880 Heather Dubrow audition for Real House. 198 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:12,400 It's about Yeah and. They go to the Abbey. 199 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,440 I don't know how I feel about the Morrissey were having on a 200 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,360 Wednesday at 2:00 at like 8:00 PM. 201 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,360 Morrissey went to the Abbey. Like, were they going to go to 202 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:25,200 like, what's what else is there? The mother lode, isn't that one 203 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:26,000 of them it? Is. 204 00:09:26,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Like a Mickey's, of course they go to the FBI. 205 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:30,840 Get it? What? 206 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:36,240 Why was, why wasn't Oh God, Sutton there with all her? 207 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,240 Friends. Oh my gosh. 208 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:39,120 And Sutton now they're her friends. 209 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,520 They should crossover. Yeah, I. 210 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:45,520 Sounds like I don't do what I was saying. 211 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:51,280 I don't mind and there's a lot of question comes up about women 212 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,600 in gay spaces and whether or not that's, you know, a welcome 213 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,560 thing or not. And I'm a fine, I'm fine, I'm 214 00:09:58,560 --> 00:10:00,280 fine with it. Not that like I'm the end all be 215 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,320 all judge of whether. It depends on the women, the 216 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,480 group, the. Day of the week. 217 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,840 Day of the week and also what are you doing there? 218 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:09,120 Yeah, yeah. I mean. 219 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,320 I think in this context because it wasn't already crowded and 220 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,720 they weren't taking up space of other people, right? 221 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:17,280 I think it's cool have them let them have their fun. 222 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,960 You know, Emily can go ahead and ride the go go boy. 223 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,160 It's. Just weird. 224 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,240 This is not Chippendales like when they're like making a ray 225 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:26,760 and I'm like, these are go go boys. 226 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,760 You put the money down, the shorts you don't like make it 227 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,880 right. Yeah, don't objectify them like 228 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:32,920 that. No. 229 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,600 Gosh, no. No. 230 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,080 And then I think my other problem that I I can't 231 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:39,520 sugarcoat. I don't. 232 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,440 And Gretchen's even creepier when she's having fun, like when 233 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,600 she's all loud. Yeah, I'm just. 234 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,600 I can. I can't. 235 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,120 And then like you mentioned it, like at one point she sounded 236 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:56,240 like she was acting drunk, like she had something to drink, but 237 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,960 it sounded like she was definitely amping it up. 238 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,400 I think it's so she could be like, I don't know what I was 239 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:01,720 saying. I was drunk, you guys. 240 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,160 I don't normally drink like that. 241 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,200 It just seemed like too like what you would see on a sitcom. 242 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,080 Like no, I'm super drunk and I'm like having a random pillow 243 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:15,240 fight and I'm being loopy. Or at least or that's her purse. 244 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:18,240 Although now if I would, if I think bats are naked wasted, 245 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,240 that's how she acted too. So maybe that's just how she was 246 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,640 drunk, man. Maybe because not drunk? 247 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:28,040 But drunk, Drunk and then was was Fireball involved in Naked 248 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,360 Waste? Is that why they kept bringing 249 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,320 up Fireball? Or they just no, it was like we 250 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,840 she had many different drinks. OK, I I watched it, rewatched it 251 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,320 recently. It was like wine, Jimmy. 252 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,640 It was. I think that's probably what did 253 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,040 her in, like the mixing of alcohols. 254 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:41,880 Right, Right. Yeah. 255 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:46,400 And the mixing of the roofies. There were no roofies. 256 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:48,320 I don't. Know allegedly. 257 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,120 Cut it out. So yeah, it was just a little 258 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:55,520 weird to watch. And then yeah, how she again, 259 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,760 how she brought up this whole Tamra trying to sing a song like 260 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:02,680 track. I think it was, you know, this 261 00:12:02,680 --> 00:12:05,200 smell was not set up. It was like, oh, you know, da, 262 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,160 da, da, my song. I know I do a song. 263 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,240 Oh, and then, but nobody was asking for this. 264 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,480 As Ryan points out later, nobody. 265 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,240 There's naturally had a conversation about her and her 266 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,000 music. And that goes from, well, you 267 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,800 know, Tamra did a song and she sounded like a drowned rat. 268 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,560 How does that sound? OK, yeah. 269 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,760 Where did that come from? Oh, and by the way, she's she's 270 00:12:29,760 --> 00:12:31,160 in the studio. She was screwing. 271 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,880 Beeps out the name, but someone Emily knows of because she's 272 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:35,680 Gen. X. 273 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,760 Yeah. Emily is your age. 274 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,880 I mean technically I'm you're Gen. 275 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:41,160 X too. I am. 276 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,520 Yeah, I am, yeah. But we're the very tail end of 277 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:46,840 Jerry until like I I again, I like, I'm more, I like 278 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,280 considering myself Gen. Y. 279 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:53,560 But you know, it's not actually a Gen. because I'm between Gen., 280 00:12:53,560 --> 00:12:55,400 you know, I'm not millennial, but I'm all you know. 281 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,120 Definitely, definitely. Not millennial but I'm 282 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:58,200 definitely not Gen. X. 283 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,120 My brother, my brother qualifies as Gen. 284 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,880 X and he's born in like 1965 or something so. 285 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,360 Six months. I'm really like Portia, once 286 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,120 sick, she's like, I think 801981 that she's in the bowl of 287 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,000 millennial. And I was like, is that 288 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:11,480 millennial? I don't know. 289 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,240 I guess so, yeah. I don't know he is anyway. 290 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,560 Vance. I'm curious about who this 291 00:13:16,560 --> 00:13:19,760 person is. I like how much that it's 292 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,200 someone that at least if we'd heard their name. 293 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,840 We wouldn't know they. Are that we know who they are, 294 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,520 but it's also somewhat obscure enough that like Emily would 295 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:31,560 say, well, I'm of a certain age, so I know that person, whereas 296 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:34,000 you might say it to someone younger and they'd be like, 297 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,640 who's that right. So it makes me think like, did 298 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:37,800 did she like? And it was like big enough. 299 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,760 They had like both bleep and like. 300 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Not throw their mouth, yeah. Yeah, Gretchen's mouth. 301 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:44,640 So she would do with her filters. 302 00:13:44,680 --> 00:13:48,800 Does it look like it was? I was trying to figure out 303 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:50,600 whether it was one name or two names. 304 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:54,040 It sound like from a group, maybe she said the name, but I 305 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,040 think when Emily retooled and they bleeped her and it's like 306 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,880 so and so. So I'm like, are we talking 307 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:03,240 about Backstreet Boys? Are we talking about **NSYNC 98° 308 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:04,040 we can go? On and on. 309 00:14:04,040 --> 00:14:06,200 No, I don't think. I think that's not particularly 310 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:06,840 Gen. X. 311 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,120 Or well, OK, let's OK, you're right. 312 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,920 And you know what? OK, let's, let's do a little a 313 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,720 little sleuth, Fletcher on this. Yeah. 314 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,800 It would have been in the early 2000s because, like, Tamara was 315 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,480 on the show at the time. So it would have been probably. 316 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Yeah. So when if someone's Gen. 317 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:30,160 X and it's probably an 80s person, like in the Bon Jovi 318 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:34,480 realm raps, right. I wish we could actually hear 319 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,520 the song so we'd know like, the kind of. 320 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,000 Oh, like. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 321 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,640 It's probably a good poppy. So maybe not like a rocker, more 322 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,760 like a Tears For Fears. Is that too? 323 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,080 Long Oh, that's no, that's not. That's too poppy though, and too 324 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,280 alt alt poppy I I and in my head, I don't know why. 325 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,000 I feel like it's some sort of classic rock sort of guy. 326 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,960 Like Michael Bolton. That's not classic rock, 327 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,040 sweetheart. That is mom. 328 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:02,200 OK, That is mom. Pop my mom. 329 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,000 Listen to Michael Bolton. We listen to Michael. 330 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,600 And I did like me so, Michael. That was like, how am I just 331 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,520 living without you? Yeah, for him. 332 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,320 But yeah, I'm curious to know who would be. 333 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:17,160 And I know that that in it's complete BS for like, well, that 334 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,800 was Slade's doing. And also, Slade got his own 335 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,840 confessional wacky. It's like John Jansen getting 336 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:24,560 his own professional last year. We don't need that. 337 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,440 Yeah, it won't need that. Like it ran the pop up his doofy 338 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,960 ass face. Like, you know, I hate him, bro. 339 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:36,520 Or what he said basically like. It was like, I'm not gonna, 340 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:39,800 yeah, I'm not gonna talk about Tamara for the sake of talking 341 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,400 about her. But talking about her, like you 342 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:46,920 and Alexis, you and Gretchen would not be on this show if 343 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,440 Tamara was not. So I do, I do wonder how much of 344 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,480 A setup it was the next day for Emily and Heather to be asking. 345 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:57,040 So are you guys going to get married? 346 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,040 How do you hold your finances that. 347 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,280 Was some good grilling. It was and I, I don't know, I. 348 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:08,440 And the flashback, basically, she can't say it's not true 349 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,840 because she said it in this flashback that she does not want 350 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,720 to incur Slade's financial debt at the time and still up this 351 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,320 time is about him, you know, paying child support. 352 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:22,280 And she's very, very like careful about what she's saying 353 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:25,000 about this as. Opposed to 2012, right? 354 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,280 It's more like I want to be on my own. 355 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,720 Like I'm thinking she's thinking from like a feminist standpoint 356 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,840 of be like, I don't want a man to ever have control of me. 357 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:31,840 I'm going to have my own finance. 358 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,320 It's my own house, da da, da. But what is he contributing and 359 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,960 why are you not? Group, right, coming again, like 360 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:45,760 in that common sense or that common sense of the word of what 361 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,360 business of theirs is it? It's not. 362 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,760 And they're not trying to make it their business. 363 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,640 They're just wanting to know, curiously, how it works. 364 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:55,240 I love my other says it's not my business, but it doesn't make 365 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:58,240 sense to me, right, right. And especially when you add on 366 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,920 the layer of Jesus and how religious she is now. 367 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:04,880 And so you would think you'd want to, you know, have your 368 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:08,640 household together like mommy and daddy are married, whatever 369 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,400 that little bullshit of like we were married by an organic 370 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:12,839 minister in our own level ceremony. 371 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,400 You're not married. We're married. 372 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:17,880 We got an official. Yeah, when she when she says 373 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,040 that like marriage is only paper, I just want to be like, 374 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,560 oh, so then you probably have no problem with gay marriage 375 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,000 getting married done, so that's doesn't matter to you. 376 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,119 And that your group you're associated with trying to take 377 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,760 that right, right, right from us, yeah, so. 378 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,080 I'd be curious to hear how that how that goes. 379 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:36,080 But no, I mean, it did make me wonder because we've also been 380 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,480 really curious, like what what happened between Emily and 381 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,080 Tamara. Like last season, they seemed 382 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:44,800 pretty tight with each other and then now all of a sudden she's 383 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,640 buddy buddy Emily's like up with Gretchen. 384 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:50,000 But then this episode a little bit, if she was like also just 385 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,200 trying to kind of get back at her a little bit for Tamara, I 386 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,720 couldn't tell. I think it was more increasing 387 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,520 because like she's pointing out like this whole or really riding 388 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,640 heartless narrative of Heather being afraid. 389 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, Tamara can't 390 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,440 really have friends. She's very it's only about all 391 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,240 about strategy and playing chess, which, yeah, that's not. 392 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,960 I mean, it's true because even Tamara will say Tamara said this 393 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,240 episode. I don't like people, Tamara said 394 00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,480 on 2 TS. Like, I put walls up or even on 395 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,680 the show, but I put walls up. I'm very defensive. 396 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,280 That's just who I am growing up. And, you know, she's putting up 397 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,280 balls. So yeah, maybe it's probably 398 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:34,200 hard for her to have a lot of good close friends. 399 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:39,120 And you're not really helping the point, Emily, like saying 400 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:41,840 pointing out these things, but. I like that at least now there's 401 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:45,320 a little bit more of the other side of like Emily is trying to 402 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,920 like bring out like bull it and. That's good. 403 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,000 I like I like to say, yeah, it's good that she's not like I'm 404 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,720 leading on one side right. And I think yes to like say to 405 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,600 Gretchen, you know, like really No, it's like from the grilling 406 00:18:59,960 --> 00:19:02,480 the whole like you started this, right? 407 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,200 You just like we were sitting here minor in business and you 408 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:09,320 enslaved just like started like word vomiting all these things 409 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:13,360 about camera having an affair with like this random pop star 410 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:16,680 rock star, whoever. And it was recorded and like, 411 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,040 oh, there's audio, but we don't have the audio, but like we 412 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,760 heard the audio and you know, just Gretchen be like, oh, I'm 413 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,360 in trouble. Yeah, you are in trouble because 414 00:19:24,360 --> 00:19:26,120 you're starting shit. Uh huh. 415 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:29,720 Termo's willing to go forward with you and you are going 416 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,400 backward and then. She's like, I hope you guys 417 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,040 still bring this up, but I know you're going to. 418 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,160 Well, yeah, of course. That's on camera. 419 00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:36,400 Yeah. Chick. 420 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,560 Like what do you think? I wish I had a better knowledge 421 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:42,920 of 80's rock musicians because then every time we mention this 422 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,760 Tamra thing, I can be like, Oh yeah, then Tamra and Sting they 423 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,280 were sitting in. Excess. 424 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:56,920 Tamra and Tamra and Steve Perry. Could be it could be. 425 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,320 It wouldn't be he was. He was long not involved with 426 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,040 Journey by the time. Yeah, but but that's frilled 427 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:04,400 around. But like, it doesn't have to be 428 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,240 like him. Like he could have been 429 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:08,440 producing the track. True. 430 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,400 Yeah, I don't. Yeah. 431 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:15,960 God help us if Steve Perry had to produce Tamara Judges music 432 00:20:15,960 --> 00:20:18,480 track. Because like, I want to know 433 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,080 more of this back story. I want Tamara to explain like 434 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,760 why was she trying to record a song just because she was on 435 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,360 Housewives? Yeah, probably. 436 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:29,120 It doesn't make any sense going back a second to the Heather of 437 00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:34,360 it all that conversation, which I wish Tamara had like paused. 438 00:20:34,360 --> 00:20:37,000 And actually when they showed the flashback of Heather saying 439 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,560 you remind me of my father. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 440 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,880 And Tamra just dismissed it. Like, again, Tammy needs to shut 441 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,000 up sometimes and like, listen more to people because Heather 442 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,200 Ware told her you remind me of my father because of XY and Z 443 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,600 and said she had the conversation with Emily and 444 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,000 Gretchen where it would have been more meaningful, right. 445 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,920 With Tamra, Right. So yeah. 446 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:58,440 But I mean, that's kind of Heather's point though, and 447 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:01,360 everyone's point is that they have certain conversations with 448 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:02,720 cameras. Yeah, it's weird. 449 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,560 It's like, because it's like I put walls up because I'm afraid 450 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,720 of being heard. But then you're heard. 451 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,760 Then it gets to ammunition for putting the balls up. 452 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,080 But if you never put the balls down, then you can't ever be 453 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,560 true friends and it's easy for you to flip on something. 454 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:15,960 Never ending cycle. Exactly. 455 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:17,680 She's chasing her tails sometimes. 456 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:24,280 So, yeah, yeah. Well, next week, because that 457 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,920 looks like it's gonna be good. Next week is like the Gretchen 458 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,640 has that. Wonderful braided ponytail thing 459 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,800 going on. And a poof and a I know it's 460 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,520 very like 18th century, like, you know, like she should have a 461 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,440 collar up to here like a lady. I don't. 462 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,400 Know now when you give someone with a finger, do you have a 463 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,800 thumb outboard? No, yeah, I knew. 464 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,320 I just did. Because son, yeah, that's. 465 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,320 What I would do like before I control. 466 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,560 I would always do the thumb out. See that? 467 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,720 Oh yeah. Yeah, of this, but my I have a 468 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,880 friend he would always just do and he could could collapse his 469 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:00,760 index fingers. So when he gave the finger like 470 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,720 they were just it was just his middle finger sticking up, but 471 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,240 he would purposely keep his thumb in because he'd said it 472 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:09,960 just would do sheer that way. But yeah, just be honest. 473 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,560 I in front of me once because I could only I had to hold the 474 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,440 fingers down and let's look at what you do with my left hand 475 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:18,840 like that. Well. 476 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,400 I have four older brothers. I learned how to do it with both 477 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:27,040 hands just hey guys, flip the bird could also hit you in the 478 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,360 nose, the spine of a TV Guide. Like well trained with that. 479 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,080 Two guys are so thin nowadays and like, they're not, I know. 480 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,320 They have no binding to speak. Yeah, exactly like, oh, you can 481 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:38,160 make this. Sample. 482 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,080 Yeah. Oh, you. 483 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,280 Don't meet the staple right in the nose. 484 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,360 Owie. Yeah, no, those, those old TV 485 00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:47,320 guides especially, it was like the fall preview you. 486 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,480 Get. You get someone crack right and 487 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,960 then right between the eyes is one of those. 488 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,760 And it was such a satisfying impact noise too. 489 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:59,640 This spin on just whack right between their eyes. 490 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,200 Oh so good and I'm the youngest I'm the youngest brother and I 491 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:07,360 had that skill don't don't be thinking that I was picking on 492 00:23:07,360 --> 00:23:09,400 my old my younger brothers they're my older brother yeah 493 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,480 picking on them you're. Just fighting for survival. 494 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,040 Yes, exactly. It's Kitty. 495 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,240 You don't need to drink. Don't go to the bar, Kitty. 496 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:17,600 Why are you in the bar? Yeah, I'm gonna feed her. 497 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,720 Yeah. Well, this is good episode. 498 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:23,520 Yeah. We talk about everybody. 499 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,400 Yeah, I'm poor Katie. Oh man, we just talk about her. 500 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,320 Gina had a decent confessional. That was a great color on her. 501 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,160 Yeah. And her hair was blown out very 502 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:33,920 nicely. Yeah. 503 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,760 It was one of her best looks. She definitely redeemed herself 504 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,200 from like last year's I think Sunny even. 505 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,080 Situation and as much as we keep thinking we're going to see one 506 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,640 of Emily's nipples, we haven't yet. 507 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,760 So that's that's another one of our that's. 508 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,560 Why I'm wearing that dress? I'm like, am I seeing Ariel a 509 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:49,920 lot? Yeah. 510 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,120 Is there going to be like a little top of the nip slip? 511 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,680 Yes, and it's like top of the morning but your nipple. 512 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,920 All right, till next, until next time.