Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we just watched an episode of The
Real Housewives of Orange County.
We sure did. Yes.
And that was a bit of a let down, I'd say.
It wasn't all I'd say. Wouldn't say it's a let down, it
just was. It wasn't all that we were
promised. It was rough.
I didn't think it it, it went in a very obvious direction and I
thought there would be something more to it and we'll get to the
lie detector test of it all. But.
So the obvious direction was Persian New Year.
I didn't see that I. Didn't see.
Yeah. I just thought it was like, oh,
I'm like everyone over for like, you know, just like.
A part for a lie detector party. Yes, I didn't know it was also
going to be a surprise, but I guess that's, you know, you want
people so they're not going to be prepared.
But anyways they. Don't take a bunch of Xanax just
to calm themselves down and. I was like, damn it.
I I did like that they're like there's no alcohol here.
What's going on? Yeah, they're.
Like, oh, we get. It but neither here nor there
yes, I'm a little out of sorts today this week.
Are you out of well, it's so dumb.
So I haven't shaved in a little while.
Like I think I shaved last week. And part of it is my 30th high
school reunion is on Saturday, right?
And so like I want to be clean shaven for it and like I want to
get like I want to look the most me I can look.
The only want to shave once this week, is that why?
Well, so I only usually shave once and oh, there's a spider on
the ceiling over there. Oh, there is.
Let's pretend it's not there and we're talking, OK, Then we'll
kill it. I mean, we'll escort it out of
the house. Later, out of the house, it's
time for you to leave. No, shaving's always been a
really weird thing for me 'cause like, I don't, I don't like
having like shadow or growth or whatever.
What's it called? Scruff.
I don't like it.
I don't like it at all. But like, if I shave midweek,
then like I have to wait for it to get longer enough so I can
shave it again or else it's just like rubbing my face off, right.
And also the timing with work this week, like one of these
days on Tuesday we left for work.
I was, we were really running late, so I really didn't have
time to shave. And so I was like, ah, and I
all. And Wednesday I was like, Oh,
should I? And then today I was like, well,
now if I shave, I won't have enough, you know, growth to
shave again on Saturday. So now I'm just going to power
through and. I didn't know this at all, like
this is not something you shared with me well.
I you know, I The timing of shaving isn't necessarily
anything you really need to share with one's husband.
No, but you know me, I shaved once a month.
That's when I shaved my head. Yeah, I shaved my face and I
just like, grew this like, scruffy beard.
So I'm like, this is too much. And you know, this is too much
too. And you just.
This, this I can't I this is driving me nuts.
Like even when I had like, you know, a beard, I still kept like
the neck trimmed and everything is the last thing I want to be
is neckbeard don't want that at all.
And it just, it just it's driving me insane and I have to
get through tomorrow and then and then OK also, so my friends
help. As you know, we our catio, we
had a catio when we bought this house.
Our house came with a catio and it was basically a you're
looking at me like I'm crazy. No, I understand.
I know you to be truthful. You're not lying about this.
Thank you so much. The previous owners of this
house had cats, and they built a catio themselves.
The little DIY project, the one good project they did DIY.
Yeah. Get to that another day.
And they had their, they had their lure boxes out there.
And we used it not for that purpose, but for just our cats
to hang out there. And then it got dry rod and also
termites. Termites.
And so we tore it down a little bit before Maeve passed away.
And we got this temporary new one, which is kind of like now
the new one or the existing one. Yeah.
And you know, well, all cabs likes it.
So she's, you know, but. Long story short, all the wood
has been sitting in the backyard, which you know if
you're getting junky. If you're getting rid of
something because there's termites in it, then maybe don't
leave it in your backyard for another.
I didn't. Think about that.
For however many months. So I mean, I'm sure they're not
near the house, they're further from the house.
So I'm fine with. Anyway, my friends agreed to
help. He's got a truck.
You know, everyone has a friend with a truck.
He's much more than just a friend with a truck, but he also
happens to be a good friend with a truck.
So he's going to come by on the morning of the reunion and we're
going to go to the dump and get rid of all all this paint and
stuff and needles from when we had to give made medication.
I'm getting rid of all of it. I'm getting going to the dump.
Is it you're right anxious about this?
I'm anxious about that. I'm just because, well, one a
friend who, you know, I don't like the perception that like
we're you know, but I'm using my friend for his truck, which is
not true, which is not true, and he offers all the time.
It's just that, you know, I've had to be a little bit more
straightforward of like, hey, I really should use you and your
truck can when you go to the the dump and you know, so it's fine.
It's all good, but we're. Let's say, yeah, The thing is
like you're not just calling him up once a year for, like things
that you're trying to use them for.
We hang out quite a bit. We were at their house couple
weeks ago, you know. Well, like a month ago, yeah.
About they all blend together. And we're going to see them on
Saturdays, so I mean, it's all good.
Friend, yes, yeah. So it's all going to be good.
And then on top of it, I don't know what to wear.
And then like a lot of like there's, so there's a Facebook
group of the reunion and like there's a lot of activity in
there from a lot of people I don't recognize.
And I recognize a lot of people and these people.
I'm just like, who's that? Part of it is, of course, you
know, married names. So I don't recognize a lot of
the girls I went to school with because they're they're using
their married names now. So I'm like, who's that?
And then I have to like reach the back of my brain.
But it's also pointing out to me that though I know or that I
knew a lot of people in high school, I was not super popular,
but I knew who they were and they knew who I was.
And I've kept in touch with a lot of people just by living
back in my hometown and everything.
I don't know, a lot of people are gonna be at this reunion.
And so I'm really not dreading, but I'm really a little more
anxious about the the whole awkward Who are you?
Well, I think so much of this reunion and probably like large
social gatherings like this, people are going to get into
smaller groups. And so we'll know our friends
who still live here in town and we'll hang out with them.
And it's like, you have to like, there's no icebreaker game.
Like you have to go talk to somebody you haven't spoken to
in 30 years. That's like, true, true.
The thing about reunions, it's just you're not all going to get
together in Kumbaya. It's just, you know, it's not.
That's because that's not what high school was.
No, for sure. And then the other thing I'm
realizing and I'll, you know. Not that I would know because
I've never been to any reunion. Well, so that's The thing is I
think there's a lot of people who are going to be coming to
this because they didn't go to either of the other two.
The 10 or the 20? So that means that like there's
me, people who just haven't, I haven't seen literally in 30
years. So it's not like it's going to
be a bunch of people that I saw ten years ago and 10 years
before that. It's me, people I have not seen
in 30 years. That's.
Crazy 13. Years and it's also you start
thinking about that I was I was 1730 years ago like that's just
so. Weird.
It's so weird. It's so weird.
Like that time, you know, we're two years apart and it's just so
bizarre to think it's been that long.
But. Yeah, the world is letting me be
an adult for all this time and no one stopped me.
I'm just like. And also, it's so weird, like
we're adults and we like, want a house and, you know, we're
making plans for the future and right, It's just bizarre.
At some point I just keep expecting someone's gonna walk
in and be like, Nope, sorry, you, you weren't allowed to
graduate, you need to go back to.
You weren't allowed to graduate. You're not supposed.
To have all this. That diploma back that you have
over there. Oh, it's so it's, oh, yeah.
It's just such a weird thing. So yeah, I'm a little anxious
about that. The shaving, getting the
backyard, you know, taken care of and, and just kind of, you
know, it'll be nice once it's all taken care of.
I'll feel better on Saturday after the dump run.
So also I don't know how the dump works.
Yeah, I don't even. Like and so he'll know like he's
gone to the dump a lot. Not like he hangs out at the
dump, but he. Jumps like a truck truck.
Well, he has a truck, I mean, so he drives it to the dump and he
doesn't have termites laying in his backyard.
Or maybe he doesn't I. Forgot about the whole termites
of it all. Yeah.
So, you know, I haven't jumped, but yeah, I'm excited just to,
it's funny because like I don't normally like social situations,
but I'm like, this is so interesting, this high school
reunion. That's not my high school.
And like, so I don't have to worry about it.
I just have to like be there like, oh, hey, I'm Jeff, I'm the
husband. But to like meet these people
who I've heard about and like, oh, you're the 1:00 and you're
that story. And you know what I think?
I think you're fortunate in that you have enough of our friends,
partners and wives that will be there and you can just hang out
with them and kind of have like the wives club over there and
be. Like, well, same with that is
that so many of are not so many, but there is a good amount of
friends who still live here in town or I've met them in other
situations. And so it's not like I'm going
in totally blind, like not knowing anybody.
That would make me feel very awkward and like.
But the fact that I know so many people, not so like a good
number of people who become my friends through you, you know,
I. Do want you to fuck with people
though. I do want someone to just be
like, like, oh, do I know you like?
Oh yeah, we totally. We had.
To. Come on.
Unlike certain people know see, I'm a bad liar.
I really am. I just can't.
I can't do it. So.
I think you could. Just you see, now actually
knowing that because before I was saying like I would probably
be very anxious in a lie detector test and I would pale,
fail pale. But now I'm like, I wouldn't
take one to see like because I cannot lie so.
I mean, lie detectors are I mean, they're obviously not
reliable. They're not admissible in court,
right? Like any you know, it just they
just detect your change in behavior.
And if you, you could do the same thing by looking at
somebody and just seeing like, you know, with their eyes
remain, you know, or if they're just answering questions in a
natural manner. So it's just really, really
bizarre. But anyway.
Anyways, before I ever see we get to that, the Potomac trailer
came out today that. Makes me nervous too.
Now I'm. Shizzy makes me nervous.
What were your thoughts on the trailer overall?
The specifics. Well, I think I might have to
start with with specifics. I don't need any more Drag King
Ashley just oh God, top of the list.
Don't need it. Don't want it.
Don't don't got it it. Makes me cackle.
Like in that one scene in the trailer when she's talking to
Stacey, it's like you're weird and she's been full drag king.
Yeah, you are not a good drag king.
It's. Weird to me, I don't see, here's
The thing is Ashley in the whole Dragon King situation is that it
makes me feel like a hypocrite of sorts because I mean, I've, I
guess I've seen some good drag kings before, but you just I
just don't, I don't know, I don't lose myself in the
illusion of a drag king. Every drag king I've ever seen,
I'm like, that is a woman dressed as a man.
Whereas there are some drag Queens where I've just been
like, Oh yeah, that's an illusion, That's an illusion.
So maybe I've just not seen good drag kings so that my bar is too
low, but I just think that Ashley's even lower on that.
But I feel like a complete asshole for like just scoffing
at Drag king. Look, OK, so The thing is, yes,
she's, she is queer, Yeah. She's like, you know, being very
passionate and sincere about being a drag king.
I think that's what it is. Yeah.
The sincerity, but also a mix of like, I'm doing this for the
show, yes, that makes it just like.
I think I would feel 10 times better if I if Ashley was
posting Dragon King photos when they're not filming.
And if she wasn't on the show to begin with, would she be doing
this correct? I don't know.
So that was my one thing. I the other thing I'm not
looking forward to a Stacey pylon.
I hate a pylon as we'll get to. It's just for some reason
Giselle and Ashley decided they don't like Stacy very much.
So Giselle and I'm sure other people start, you know,
trickling into it. And it's like, why are you so
bothered by her? Because the things that you're
pissed off at her, you know the TJ of it all.
And then it's going to get into the lying about being a
competing weed lie. And you know, Eddie, it doesn't
concern you. You don't care about these other
people, but you want to out this chick.
And I don't know. And also coming off of this with
Orange County, with everyone piling on Katie, yes, and then
last season with everyone piling on Mia and everyone like, and
everyone on Potomac just trying to ice out everyone every.
Season it's happened to Wendy. Wendy up in the Candace before
happened to Monique. Who's coming back?
I'm just really tired of it and I don't want to see that happen
again. So if that ends up being which
I'm afraid it's going to be the majority of the season and.
It's at least like one or two people who are like cool with
her, whether that be like Wendy or whoever.
I just it's just it's just never good when everyone is against
one person, right. It's very awkward and it.
Especially because I can hear, I can hear Giselle now if she
didn't say it in the trailer, because at some point I just in
the trailer, I was like, oh, I just kind of stopped watching
when I was watching, but I stopped paying.
Attention checked out. Yeah, I can just hear Giselle
saying like the same thing that they're saying to Katie, like,
well, how can we trust you? Like you lied about, you know,
this weed line. And it's like, what are you
possibly gonna do that's gonna are you going on QVC anytime
soon, Brazil? Are you gonna be like, I'm just
already not into it? And the I think, I think the
fact that she and Ashley so quickly gang up like on her in
the trailer, I'm not in. Jarna says something to her as
well. I'm glad to see Karen is back.
Yeah. We'll see.
You know what she does? Yeah.
She was. She was in the trailer about as
much as she was in last season. Pretty much, yeah.
I thought it was funny when, you know, Stacy pointed out.
You don't have a husband but and that we see Stacey's husband in
the trailer. Yeah, yeah.
Oh, and then hearing that that's the whole thing that like she's
apparently trying to get back together with him.
But then she's also trying to get together with Chris Samuels.
And then like Monique pops in. Yeah, I am interested in the
Monique Giselle, sit down. And I know it'll be more so I'm
sure Monique apologizing and then Giselle taking any
accountability for this shit she said about Monique for several
seasons, right? Because that's Giselle doesn't
take accountability. Yeah.
So again, I'm already looking forward to that.
Tia, I'm interested about, interested in.
Is that her name? I can't remember.
There isn't Tia. There's Tia in an Angel.
Yeah, Tia's the one with the the accent.
The one that I see is like reminded me of Kim Cole's
putting on a bad accent. It.
Really felt kind. Of bad.
I really felt like I was watching like a weird episode of
Living Single and it was like Kim Cole's got like a What was
her character's name? So, Sinclair, Yeah.
Sinclair got like, topped with her hand in the cookie jar and
she's like, am I taking the cookies?
That's really what I thought it was.
And she put like, oh, and then wanders off camera.
She says you're like and we're taking the biscuits, yes.
Exactly, I said. Sinclair would probably say
cookies. She would.
She wouldn't know she. Wouldn't have the exactly.
Yeah, I forgot. Yeah, there's her.
There's the other New Girl, Angel and.
That's gonna be confusing since Giselle's.
Daughter's name? Angel.
Yeah, I'm. Sure, it'll be a hijinx of
hilarity. Just bring it up at least 20
times. Well, I like in the trailer,
just just, I was like, I have a friend and it's like, OK, 'cause
he lost Robin, now you have to replace her.
This British lady got it all right.
Well, and then I used to. They're all coming for her for
whatever reason anyways. It's yeah, it was, it was very
chaotic, the trailer and I think it was a lot of things like
throwing together without context.
Yeah. And we'll as it goes on, like,
oh, this is what they were talking about.
But for now, it's just like, I think like shucking things.
We're shucking things like reads like snap, snap, you know?
The Internet seemed to be losing their crap over the Karen
letter. Like like the.
Whole Oh my God, I. Was like, I don't want, I don't
want a gimmick. That's what I don't want.
I don't want a gimmick to like the trailer.
I don't want a gimmick to. Potomac has always been very
gimmicky. Very much so.
But usually it was Karen and her party except for gimmick.
We were like, last year's trailer was like like the 1950s
housewife. They said.
They always do have to have like a gimmick to say that.
I don't need that. Just I don't need a trailer.
I think everyone aside from the letter, they're losing their
minds over Mauricio randomly popping up.
Oh, I don't think I know. You didn't know.
I didn't think you did because like I was like, we haven't
talked about this. Well, you should have mentioned
something. Ratio pops up and they're like
she didn't. He had Giselle hug and they're
like, oh, good to see you. And it's like everyone's like,
what are you doing here without Kyle for Exia?
Is he selling Giselle's house? No, they're also in like western
gear so maybe it's when they go on their.
Trail. Perhaps they run into them
somewhere? Maybe selling agent agency party
in Virginia. I don't.
Know so that means salt lakes coming back on the 16th.
When is Potomac coming back? October 5th.
So a couple.
Weeks later, so we Sunday, OK, we're going to have a nice
schedule again of everything. Again, they could have left
Miami on Wednesday, but maybe they say the ratings have been
doing well again after OC. But Miami will be wrapping up
soon so we won't have 4 like by October.
I don't think we'll have 4, right?
I like 3 fours too much. I was so worried because I'm
going camping that one day I'm leaving on a Thursday.
Right. So you're gonna.
We're gonna. We're gonna miss.
OC in. In Miami, but I'll be back that
Saturdays. Right, right Record.
Yes. But damn it, I thought I had
that all time differently. I thought I had it timed so that
one of the shows would be done. Well, we're gonna, so we'll have
like the debut of Salt Lake, so we'll record that.
Would be the night before. Yeah, I'll just have to edit it
before I leave. Oh good, I'll have time to edit.
It on Wednesday yeah, yeah. And then, totally unrelated but
related, Secret Lives of Mormon Wives comes out the week of
Bravo Con that Thursday. Oh well, that's a few months
later. We have to hear.
That well, it's supposed to be September, but then it's like,
wait, November? That's weird.
But so anything going on with you or do you want us to talk
about Orange County? Nothing is going on with me,
nothing really like exciting. Nothing exciting so just
planning your work Christmas party.
You know, yes, it's early, but you have to do these things
early and grab a venue. So we looked at 1:00 today and I
liked. So we'll see if my boss likes
it. And yeah, that's my thing.
It's a nice from my perspective, it's a nice refreshing change
and you're smart to have started earlier because normally it's
like November 15th and you're about to play.
We've got to plan a Christmas party.
I. Feel like last year I, I might
have been October, I looked into, yeah, I'd have to look at
the emails. But yes, he was like, what?
It's so early. I'm like, it's really not.
Some people like plan a year and a half.
Some people plan at the previous holiday, yeah.
Well, you're lucky because like your work, you have a venue that
you own, and there's the two of that you.
Have that lucky I get to go to the same place for everything
all the time. Yeah.
No, it's actually comforting at some point.
No, that's cool. Yeah, I'm I, you know, I'm most
proud because you for the longest time are like, I'm not
planning the Christmas card. I'm not doing it.
And then you're like reluctantly doing it.
I think it was your success last year of playing the really good
one that you liked that everyone.
Was my favorite so far, Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. And once you were like, I'm
listening to myself, I'm not listening to others.
I was talking to other people on my team and he was saying like,
how did you end up doing this? I'm like, well, because I just
I'm the one who pays for stuff. So I they're like, you should
pay for this party When I was like, as the years have gone on,
this is my 4th 1. I just like doing it because I
like being in control and I like picking things.
And so no one can like say bupkis because I'm like, I
picked it. Well, my boss can say no, I want
this venue. But you know, I'm like.
It's just nice to like, control something.
Right, but I think you would be absolutely gutted if one of your
coworkers was like, I hate that place.
That was dumb. You would just.
And I'd be like, you'd plan it yourself.
Fuck them off. And then you're fired, OK.
Say it, forget it, write it, regret it.
So I would tell him to his face. Fuck off.
But not your boss, just a Co worker.
Not my boss, my coworker. You can, yeah.
Scratch. So, okay.
Yeah, that's me. That's us cat over there rolling
around. Yeah, cats.
Doing okay. Gaps is Gavin, Yeah, we're
talking about you. Yeah, OC.
Orange County something. How did this begin?
It started with weren't they going to meet Kiki Monique that
that happened. It was a bunch of, like, random
scenes we got. OK, so we're talking about the
random scenes, Heather, Basically the whole scene, Like,
I'm with my family. We're playing poker like we
normally would. The kids are like, why are we
here? Yeah.
Not that they don't love each other, but they're like, we
don't usually do this. This is family game night isn't
a thing, but it was basically just to establish.
Hasn't sold the house yet. Spoiler alert, House is sold
already. Oh, it is.
Yeah. The Josh sold it, yeah.
Good for that. Did they sell it for a good
amount of money? I can't remember.
Probably. So I'm sure she'll break even.
I'm sure she doesn't need the money.
I think Heather's going to be OK.
She won't be house poor. Yeah, I guess that it's reverse
if you're saying I know what you're so.
Yeah, her family is lovely. That part I did like, you know,
she had a biopsy, so she had a Band-Aid on her nose.
Well, actually mentioned it, and that was Heather.
Yeah, Shannon had her father seen.
God. Damn cringe.
Yeah, I ever, ever, ever have. I would never.
I would. Restaurant.
I would be so horribly secondhand embarrassed, so I
would never do that. Yeah, it was so weird.
And Cran, I don't. I don't even like having like
telling the restaurant it's someone's birthday.
Well, your birthday or my birthday.
I don't like it, friends. I'll do it too because then I I
can just say, well, it's not me. But yeah, I don't even like when
the restaurant has to no, just it's like, no, no one, no one
who's working at a restaurant is saying like, you know what I
hope happens today? I hope I have to say happy
birthday to at least 10 people. I don't make.
I'm ready to clap. Yeah, no, no, no.
And then they said that other, other part of the scene was
Shannon telling her dad that she's not sure if she's going to
trust Tamron, her dad. I mean, like, Yep, Uh huh.
Yep. I'm 96.
I don't care. And then like, I guess talking
about how he's, he flirts with all the women's.
Lovely. I mean, he did look pretty good
for 96. I would have.
I would have guessed younger. It was like 80s.
I mean, I just think in my mind, 96 is just yeah, like.
There's some people in 90s that they're just.
Like in my mind, right In my mind, by the time I'm 80, I'm
going to be bedridden. So 96.
No, you can't. We need you. 96 I'll I will I
will be a coffin so. No.
So we need you. OK, but no, what is it about it?
I think it's just about him, he. Gene, the Machine.
Gene the also, it really bothers me that she does that to men's
names that rhyme. No, that was or I think Earl
that gave himself that Earl. Earl the Pearl?
Yeah, I don't know, Maybe she's got some daddy issues.
I mean, she probably does. But it was a lot of issues.
But that bothered me. But also her dad kind of was
giving me Hugh Hefner vibes. Oh I could see it, but not
creepy and not a horrible person.
I I I'll go with not a horrible person, but I'd say a little
creepy. I'll say he was creepy, he was
just older. He just didn't seem, he didn't
seem, he didn't seem like the kind old man that gives you
candy. Well, else didn't seem like an
asshole who's like trying to get into the drama be like, no, you
should not trust that Tamara. He's like, yeah, I get it.
It's hard. Like he's basically like a
glaring and like being her talk to only for a certain amount of
time. He's like, look, I'm older here.
I don't have. We ever seen Shannon go over to
Jean's house? Has she ever gone to visit her
dad? I want to see.
Yeah, there was a scene last year because she was talking
about John Jansen with. Over at his house, I can't.
Remember his house It was but they had a scene I.
Remember, I remember there was one, but I kind of want to see
where Jean lives. I kind of want to see like, does
he live in like? Is this the living?
That was my one question, yeah. Or it's like a like an old, like
a retirement community. Yeah.
Or just in 96. You need someone to help you
with your pills. Maybe he's got a nurse who comes
in and you. Know, yeah.
So or, or I guess also what I'm wondering is like because he
lived like in a time capsule of a house.
A time capsule. This is my house from the 70s,
you know. Is doing a time capsule
collection with Sutton. Yes, that's just a capsule
collection. Oh, it's whatever Sutton was in
the time capsule. He.
Does indeed. So anyway, yes, Shannon and Jean
the machine. What are the random scenes?
There was. I meant to remember them.
But those were like the. Those were the big.
Ones the basic ones, so was no. Jen and her kids talking.
That was nothing. The the bowl cut on her one her
kids have a certain. Hair.
Aesthetic and I'm it's. Midwestern, because that's where
they're. Right.
Utah. Utah, Yeah.
Either way, I, I don't, I know. I've seen pictures of their
father like on the Internet or something.
They always, always blurt out. Not on the Internet.
On the Internet. Yeah, on the Internet.
Yeah, yeah. But I can't.
Every time I see their kid, I actually, I won't say.
Every time when there's more than one of her kids in the same
room, I'm like, who do they take after?
But then it's a hard game to play because some of them are
adopted and you know all that stuff.
Only one's adopted only one the. Honest.
All right, Either way, yeah, I don't need her.
I don't need to talk the kid talk.
To no SO. We got to see Gretchen and Slade
taking down a chandelier over the tub and not being
electrocuted. We get the big, not big, but the
more significant scene would be the Kiki of it all.
Oh, right. Yes, here's the thing, I believe
Kiki that Katie spoke to her. I don't know why Katie's saying
she's not. She's just admit I spoke to Kiki
and I told her what Gretchen told me, like let go of one lie
to prove, you know, that someone else is lying.
So what I don't. And then, well, we'll get to the
jam thing in a second. But so Kiki reveals this and
then Gretchen like really, really, really, really tries so
hard to cry and she feels so betrayed.
And the acting was horrible. The acting is horrible because I
even though Katie is a liar, I believe for certain certain that
Gretchen said that she went to the hospital and she felt like
she was drugged. I believe that happened because
she said it in the damn Sprinter with Tamra and Shannon, Yes.
So you're not going to get me off that?
I don't think I'm ever going to be able to.
Yeah. And.
I hope it comes out later on. I hope Tamra's just sitting on
this and that she didn't say it for a reason I don't know to be.
Continued Maybe the to be continued is Katie leaves and
then Tamra brings. It up, I think maybe when we get
there. But like, yeah, I, I Gretchen
was totally acting. She's a horrible, horrible
actress, horrible actress, very pretty.
Too many too much of A beat like that was some full face and
those eyelashes were like gonna jump out and grab you like that
spider she oh God, that's home respond.
Well, we'll never know. She Gretchen had Trixie Mattel's
makeup on. Like it was it was Trixie makeup
because I was noticing like even the harsh line where like the
eye makeup stopped. I was just like, whoa, like
that's clearly like someone took a ruler and like airbrushed to
the. Ruler, so much makeup on, looks
so much like Trixie that a member of her political party
would not let her talk for children or do story time.
Good one, good one. You had to refine that one, work
on that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
For Bravo Comp. Whip that out some witty like.
Would be like that. Been banned from going to
libraries. Talk to children.
You can't figure that's it. That's it.
Those eyelashes were kind of. So so.
Yeah, so and then the Gina thing, I it did happen.
They did the flashback. Thank you, producers.
They definitely like dug through and found that.
I don't think Katie was trying to paint Gina as a waitress as
AI would. Rather Gina paint her as a
waitress. Where is that Hun?
I got your cannoli. No, I don't think she's.
Southern covered, Sorry. She wasn't trying to paint,
paint Gina as a racist. She just thought it was a bit
offensive how Gina phrased it. And then you hear Gina's point
of view, which is like very much like she got her back up.
She was like, no, no, no, I was mad at this girl and da da da,
like, why are you mad? Because I think she's trying to
say Katie was putting it out there that she was only going to
wear Asian designers, being the first Asian woman on OC or just
being an Asian woman in general. She was going to support other
Asians and then made a big point of it and then she does making
it seem that she got tried to be like all big time and wear fancy
designers like Balmain and whatever and then that kind of
discounts her wearing Asian designers.
But it doesn't it's not her lying about that.
It's not her trying to be something else.
She just wasn't going to just strip where only Asian
designers, right. So, and I think I don't know,
yeah. My problem with this whole thing
is that Gina, I think you're right.
That was a complete thing. But what Gina should have just
done is not get up on her soap box.
Yeah, my horse and just said I was being messy.
I was trying to say like, oh, I thought you were only going to
have Asian designers because that's.
Exactly what she what she meant. Spirit of what she was doing,
which is fine. It's totally fine to be like I
was giving her shit for not wearing Asian designers.
But the Kiki say, like Katie said that you were racist, no?
I mean, I believe, I do believe Katie in saying that, like
probably the way that Gina said it was a little aggressive.
Or tone deaf. Right.
Exactly. Like, I mean, when it comes down
to aggressions, it was more than a microaggression, but I don't
think that it was like intended. I don't think there was intended
to be a, you know, like race of racistly aggressive, right?
It was just more like, you know what I'm saying?
Exactly what you're saying, Yeah, More pure.
No, I don't think she no, no, I don't think Gina was being
racist. I don't think she was trying to.
Katie was trying to paint her that way.
She just thought it was very it was offensive to her.
And as she explained to her confessional, growing up in
prominent white communities, people can say things that
don't, let's say that not their intention to be hurtful, but it
can be hurtful. And she's entitled to that
feeling, right? So unless Kiki is saying had
said straight up, yeah, she told me that you're the white lady
who's like, it's not the racist thing.
But she didn't say it that way, right?
Right. You know who did say that thing
that's dude on that TikTok video?
The guy who said like, oh, I helped Katie out and then she
like did he said that Katie said that?
Gina said that she smelled like kimchi.
Oh God. So, and whether that's shoe, who
knows? Again, there's so many, so many
spinning, spinning. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hard to, like tell who's being truthful, right?
But anyways, the main take away from that scene was Gretchen is
a horrible actress. Yes.
I mean, I could tell you that the other week when she walked,
had to walk away from Tamara and Shannon, like, I can't believe
they said that. Or even like in the when she's
in the back of the cab, she's like, I did go to the hospital.
I felt sick. The hospital?
Sorry, you're reminding me of some inside joke that we have.
What is it? Hospital?
No, it's it's Barack. No, Barack.
Oh, no, Yeah, you're right. It is.
It's What's your face as Michelle Obama.
It's Viola Davis playing Michelle Obama in that TV
limited series about first ladies and she really put it on
with like, Oh no Barack and like the voice that like Michelle
really do. But Viola, who was an amazing
EGOT winning actress, but it's it was a little much.
Much it was. It was very school marmishing,
Conda said. No, Barack, we do not.
We don't do that. Oh.
No, Oh no, Oh no. To this day we still that was
like what 3 that was during like.
That's during like post like right?
After the 2021, it was still about four years later.
Oh, no, we're going to be telling that to our children.
Oh, no, Oh no, We, we don't touch the hot stones.
We. Don't do that.
Oh, no. Oh no.
I don't know. So yeah.
Basically, we get to the party, right?
Yes, which I didn't know Shane. I mean, we didn't watch some
years of OC. Yeah, So we we learned that
Shane was half Persian. Probably so.
Probably. So it's probably been on the
show before, but we're like, OK, OK.
And it's Persian New Year. Yeah, I didn't.
I when I, I mean, yeah, it did seem a little performative.
Like felt like Emily needed an excuse to have this party and so
she was. Like I'm having a get together,
you know? I also right, I also would have
been like, OK, Persian New Year and her mother-in-law was there,
but her mother-in-law was not there.
So what was it like? I'm going to throw this and then
later on when you bring her the leftovers, what's going on?
I don't. Because the old point was her
father in law's, you know, not feeling well.
So I need to do a big thing at the mother in law's house.
So she's like, I feel like I need to do something for just my
coworkers. Yeah, my friends.
Seemed strange. And that involved also egging
her own house. Yeah.
I didn't quite understand to the ward.
Off screen I mean it seems to be one of the traditions.
I don't know what that's about. I wish I could have explained it
more. I also wanted to know does it
have to be raw eggs because that shit stains.
Yes, have you? Ever.
Have you ever egged? No, I never egged someone's
house. Gross.
That'd be very. I mean, growing up in the
suburbs like this, you know, and then the I grew up in the.
Suburbs I do that's. Still, you know how wholesome
this town is in this. Town we at Google's house is
good. I I I toilet papered and I egged
once and only once, but my brothers.
Oh, my brothers, sure. They, they were prolific Eggers
and toilet papers. And the point where, like my
mom, my mom would have to stop buying eggs like before the
weekend, because if she bought like eggs, like on a Friday,
tonight, they'd be gone and we'd have no eggs until she would.
I'd be so mad if I was a. Yeah.
Also, this is the other thing in this in this town, when you
graduated junior high, they used to have shaving cream fights
down at the Community Center at the heart.
Yes. So all the 8th graders would go
down and like you'd have like you just did a shaving cream
fight. I remember my brother coming
home like that day just head to toe covered in shaving cream and
by the time I got graduated 2 years later they stopped it.
They wouldn't allow it anymore. Someone like slip and fall.
I don't know. Or maybe someone just, you know,
ate too much shaving cream. But yeah, yeah, that's how
wholesome this town is. This town, I swear.
So anyway, it's great. Where were we?
Egging the egging. People.
Yeah, so. Your whole thing who's very
anxious like about this party because I knew this we all knew
the setup and so it's like everyone would arrive and it's
like Kays arrives and it's like this is very awkward no ones
talking to Katie really and it's like there's waiting for like
this bomb to drop because. She was wearing that sweater.
If she had, maybe it was cold in there because the dress was
super cute. Was she showed up without that
sweater? Yes.
She looked really cute and clearly she was like I need
something. Yeah, there's the AC is like
pumping to keep all this food cold.
Yeah, for the Persian New Year, that Simmons crank.
Simmons. Simpsons.
Simpsons, The Simpsons crank their AC and they're just nuts
with that shit and. They started feeling nauseous
and I was like, oh, it was bad. I mean, she was definitely,
Katie was laying it on thick. I mean, even before she knew
there was going to be a lie detector, she was just like, I'm
so nervous to be around everybody and like, Oh well.
I'm nervous too. I mean like at the last get
together they basically are like we think you're lying, you're a
lying liar who lies and I mean, so perhaps what are you doing?
She's. Getting drinks from the wet bar,
What do you want to do? What does she turn on the water,
start striking out of it? And you know crazy.
We had that sink installed and I think I've used it like 5 times.
I never use it. I don't use it.
Yeah, also. Because there's no way to dry
anything we don't have like maybe if we installed like a
towel rack and we had a dish towel up here, maybe, I don't
know. Or if we like cleared away for
you to actually use that wet bar because we just like just throw
everything there. I always meant to get shelves to
put the liquor on. Oh, that's right.
But then we put that thing above.
It well, we can still take that down.
Oh, I love that there. Well, we can move it, it, it
fits perfect, fits perfect. There's other spots for it
anyway. That's the theme chart from our
wedding, by the way. Yes.
By by the way, but no, the whole Katy thing, I feel like there's
a difference between like in housewives style, like I think
many other housewives would show up in that awkward situation.
I would be one of them, a housewife if I were and just be
like, what's up? Like and just like run ahead
first into the problem where she was sitting there quietly
avoiding the situation. And I think that that may be the
difference between a lot of the way people handle shit.
I think she needs to, especially after reunion, which I sincerely
hope she will be there, that she really comes in prepared and not
just letting them all. Because it can be really hard
when everyone's against you to assert yourself.
And regardless of how you feel about Katie, it's not fun as a
viewer just to watch everyone pile on somebody and then
they're just sitting there getting pummeled.
It's just, you know, the equivalent of like, The Walking
Dead when freaking like, right dude face who used to be on
Grey's Anatomy, like pummeled Glenn to death with a baseball
bat. Spoiler alert.
Sorry. I've never even seen Walking
Dead. Well, that's the last time I saw
Walking. I saw Walking Dead because it
was so gross. But you know, you're right.
You are. Yeah, you're right.
You can. No, I don't.
Know I forget his name anyways but the whole thing is though is
that if that's the way Katie's gonna be now yeah she's gonna be
just very. And I, if she's just gonna be
like, OK, I can't do anything about this.
She's not gonna be any different at the reunion.
I don't think she's gonna come into the reunion guns a blazing
and I don't. She has to.
That's really especially if you're gonna go down.
You're not getting back ass back next season because everyone is.
Almost everyone is saying they won't film with you, then you
have nothing to lose. Well, I don't know if you saw
already like social media while we were watching it, I saw like
they're saying that the next like most half the season
doesn't have Katie in it. Well, I think for sure she
didn't go on the trip to Amsterdam, right, So.
But they're saying like the because the woman didn't want to
film with her, like the producers like whatever scenes
they were in, they've like she's kind of edited.
She's been kind of given the the the Meili situation where
they've kind of removed her from stuff because like the story is
just not going to be involving her, which I hope isn't true.
But at the same time, unless she's going to be an advocate
for herself and really stand up, which I'm still mixed about
because I think it's bullshit that she would have to.
I think just being, I think the fact that she has an orange
should guarantee for some sort of, you know, position there
that the other women should respect.
Like it's not their show. It's.
It is out, but, you know, but that's what they do when you
have like a group dynamic like that, you can force somebody
out. Yeah.
And it's really, it's it's gross.
It's just, yeah. I don't see where she could go
with them and they would have to like sit down, but that's what
the unions for. But they would have to sit down
and actually have a conversation where not everyone's yelling at
one another or yelling at her and just saying like you're a
liar. Like let's get this out like 1
by 1. These issues you have or these
instances you want to call her out on and she can explain
herself, OfferUp any receipts, you know, any proof and just you
know, we can move on. You don't want to move on with
her. You know, I was, it was just
when Emily said you should go, I was like, like, now she's
dismissing her, you know, like, because normally someone would
be like, I'm going to go, but she's like, you know, you should
go, Katie. And it's like the optics aren't
good here. Yeah, I they.
Really aren't and I'm not trying to say anything about anyone,
it's just they're not good. Yeah, but you know, at the same
time, you know, that could be the just.
It's just how it is I. Understand exactly like it that
would. Do.
Whether it was, you know, Gina or whether it was.
Right. It's just, but it just, it just
feels like everyone's just like trying to bury this person.
Yeah. And I don't think she is evil.
I was just like, hey, Gretchen, I don't think she's evil.
She. Prayed.
Didn't you see that happen? Oh my God, seeing Slayed
freaking smiley Slimy what the hell his name is.
Pray God's going to get you for that.
They have to pray just to make it today.
OK, that's right, they pray. That's a good call back.
That or call back so. They're.
So foolish. OK, so let's let's break down
the tests. All right?
Katie fails. We know.
Miserably. Miserably.
That sucks. Gretchen is totally fine.
That was a surprise. I was like.
So again, that's why lie detectors are bullshit.
They're bullshit. They're not admissible in court.
You're right, as everyone said on the.
Internet and it's easy to beat them, it's just by remaining if.
You're a good liar and you can be calm.
Or if you believe what you're saying.
Exactly. And she clearly.
Believes. And also all it takes, not that
I've ever been through one, but I, you know, all it takes I
think to is just to believe the lie or to latch on to like a
specific detail of like, like if the question was, did you go to
the hospital after? You could believe, well, I
didn't go to the hospital. Someone drove me to the
hospital. I didn't take myself there.
Right. So if you think so hard that,
well, I didn't go to the hospital, someone took me there,
then that's what you're concentrating on, then you're
not lying. You wouldn't nothing would
happen. You're just kind of focusing on
this detail. And we all know the Real
Housewives of everything hash over these.
The exact word that was used. Like I didn't say this, I didn't
say that, you know, as you know, I didn't say fatty photo.
I said, you know. It's semantics.
You're right, you're right. And so I think that's how she
can justify it even even I think that's how a lot of liars and
people who are fast with the truth justify it in general.
Like, well, I didn't say no, I didn't go to the hospital.
I said no, I didn't drive myself, you know, or whatever.
That because again, I fully believe she said this to them at
Mastro's. So either she lied in the cab
with Tamra and Shannon or she's lying or confessional lying now
with the women saying she didn't do it.
So either way, there's a lie here and I I don't know either.
I'm going to maintain, and I think you'll agree, Gretchen is
a lying liar who lies and that I'm irritated that Jen is
allowing it to happen. The Jen thing, so she was so
irate, like I, I feel bad and I'm like that I trusted her and
da da da da, and I thought she was my friend and you know, like
I don't believe you. I don't believe you.
I feel like you're dropping ship to a better friend who actually,
no, I shouldn't say that. I just think she is aligning
herself with Gretchen because she's like, you're my better
friend. I'm going to be cool with you.
There might be small trade motives about, you know,
placement on the show. We both hate Tamara, you know?
But like, I just don't think Jen's being totally truthful or
it's pretend amnesia. I think, yeah.
I mean, I think Jen also, I did like her answer about why she
failed the question about Ryan. I think that she might be just a
little too meek, which is weird because she doesn't seem like a
meek person. Not when it comes to Tamra, no.
Right. But I feel like she's used.
I don't know. I feel like she's just trying.
She doesn't want to go against people.
Well, she was me, you know, like we last year with her with her,
you know, marriage and and not really having asserting herself
for having a lot of power. So I I don't.
I think because everyone's against Katie, it's easier for
her to be like, OK, this is the right thing to do, right?
I think that if everyone was against Gretchen, then she'd be
like, OK, I'm against Gretchen. I don't think so.
I feel like she would, would follow.
She would, you know, protect her friend more.
I don't know. I mean, unless she's like looked
at Gretchen and said we can make some really awesome tik toks
later. I you know.
That's the other I got these sound effects.
Well, that's the other alternative is which I hate to
think is like, what if they are just genuinely racist and
they're just like, we don't like this Asian lady.
Like it's awful to think right? But if that's their underlying
motivation, I will trust Gretchen till the cows come home
versus support. By we you mean certain Gretchen
or everybody? I mean, I was thinking, I don't.
Think everyone is racist? I think when I was saying
earlier the optics are bad, the optics are bad.
Let's be real, for all these white women, yo, sure, coming
against this one Asian woman, right?
The first Asian woman ever ought to see, right.
So that's what I'm saying. I'm not saying they're doing it
because she's Asian. I'm just saying it looks really
bad when that's what you're doing here.
Like aside from Mean Girls of it all, what it is, it's it's it's
not a good luck. When you said that for all of
them coming at the first date, I was thinking of New York with
all of them coming at the first black woman at Ebony, that was
that was painful to take. I mean, really, when they're
throwing, when they throw a woman of color into these
groups, it doesn't it, it ends up somewhere like this.
Except Bose, she was fine. Well, Anna Marie flocked, so
boasted. Anna Marie.
Anna Marie talked about esophaguses, so.
Bose could. Suppose Bose could just wander
in. Wander.
Bose did an amazing job. I don't want to discount what
she's done, and I don't. I like Anna Marie too.
We liked her until she got real Martina like.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Very true. Yeah, yeah.
So we are really getting off of the weeds.
No, no, I like these weeds like I think, well.
I got some weeds in the backyard.
You could take care. Of oh, I do those weeds.
You want fair, go to a carnival, right?
No, but I mean, it's crazy. OK, so the other tests are
Shannon was basically truthful about everything.
Yeah, Yeah. And then Tamara.
Tamara. She like wasn't lying, but like
she. Wasn't she qualified her answer?
It was supposed to be yes or no and then that one.
Was like I don't know if I spoke to Slade's ex or she spoke to me
further. But she ultimately said yes.
Yes, she said, yes. I I had communication with
Slade's wife. Right, who we know is basically
is said and it's not from Tamara, it's Slade's ex that
Slade was a deadbeat dad. Yeah, period.
That was period question with the Tamara didn't make this up.
OK, yeah, whatever. And then the autism thing, which
again, she should have said yes or no.
No one said I was on the spectrum.
I left with that. My doctor said it could be there
are symptoms that lead to a possibility, but she didn't say
straight up you're on the spectrum.
So she should have done better with that answer.
Yeah, she definitely should. But like, obviously the focus is
on on Tamara. They're going straight for
Katie, done with Tamra, and then Emily's was like.
Although people are going to latch on to that and won't.
Oh my God, people like latch on to like hating Tamra, like they
like a baby latches onto a nipple.
I swear to God, and now I'm Phaedra.
I just gone onto a nipple. We're.
Mixing franchises like crazy. Tonight, there was Heather's
Would she rather be a Real Housewives of Beverly?
I love that she actually said yes.
Yeah. She's like the commute guys.
No, you split the hand with Kyle and Dorit and and Bose.
We get it. They should give her like a walk
on a couple episodes. Like have her be a friend.
Like mess with people that. Would be awesome if she was an
an orange holder and a friend of over on Beverly Hills.
That'd be really nice. Cynthia would be like, wait a
second. She's like, I made the wrong
negotiations. So and then the the paparazzi
thing, which everyone ignored that because they're so focused
on Katie, she did call the paparazzi.
Oh, they said she failed. Yeah, paparazzi.
Yeah, yes, obviously. I like Jen's answer.
For once, Jen said something like that made sense.
Yeah, just say I want to be like, yeah, I'm freaking Heather
Dubrow. I call paparazzi.
They come running right? Like, oh, Matt.
Whatever, Gina. 'S was BS right?
What was Gina's? About Travis's balls.
Oh no. She used Heather for Oh yeah
contacts. I didn't like how kumbaya the
two were. Oh, I wouldn't have believed it
even if you. Yeah, I was like.
Someone was like, but you asked the question.
Yeah, right. Yeah, that was funny.
Well, yeah, of course. I asked.
Yes. And then Emily's just like, do
you think you're a better lawyer than Shane?
And she's like, yeah. That's dumb.
And then something else. Oh, did you?
Oh talk did? Someone asked.
Oh. Did you talk shit about Heather
in front of your kids? No Katie in front of your kid.
No. Did you talk about shit about?
Front of your. Kids.
Because Katie's just the one that repeated it, right?
OK, finished up. No favors.
But yeah, then it gets down to Katie and she's lying out of her
lies and. You need to leave.
That was ridiculous. That was really so awkward.
And then she's outside, you know, breaking down with the
producer. Yeah, I just don't like the
pylon of it all. And also just, I don't know,
it's still produced television, might be reality, but like they
could have made that polygrapher say whatever they wanted, be
like, hey, whatever, just let's you know, it's her first time on
a reality. Well, now we know that she did
say it was about Katie, that, you know, she's so full of shit,
like, Oh yeah, because she failed everything.
So Katie needs a friend and I think the only one that it could
be would be Tamara. So.
And that's if she reveals the Gretchen thing.
And she will. I mean, she's going to.
She has to. Yeah, and hopefully in the Part
2 that's what happens. Is she?
I can see it now actually. Katie's out.
It's really shitty that Tamara didn't say it sooner, right?
But that's also why I do think that maybe it's it's not a
concentrated effort, but like, we don't like it is a pylon for
Katie because like, OK, Tamer can be like, OK, I don't have to
worry about this now. Now I'm going to go ahead and
bring up, well, Gretchen, how come in the back of the, you
know, Van, you said you did go to the hospital and Shannon
would be like, Oh, yeah, you did.
I would hope Shannon would say that.
So just don't say it in your confessional.
Say it in the moment, right? You know, the other thing with
Gina and Emily, they were practically like, yeah, we're
going to get her. You know, like when.
Yeah, Gina said the Gretchen, we have a plan like, yeah, this is
not, you know, I. Love it when you're a little
Gretchen, your little Gina voice comes out.
Yeah, I'm a plan. I sold this.
I spoke about the meatball. Oh God, Which I forget whose
dog's name is Meatball on this earth happens.
For a minute I was like, is that Tamra's dog?
No, Tamra's is Oh. Yeah, it's like I want to say
buddy or something. Or bully no.
No, that's our friends old dog, right?
But yeah, I can't remember. Right, I got this on Instagram.
Do you follow it? I do not.
I'm surprised you follow every other damn thing in the world.
No, there's a leap from Tamaras dog to Cheesecake Factory, my
friend. Okay, and I can't argue your
Cheesecake Factory following has gotten us reservations.
Yes, by the way, we still need to have my your birthday.
We haven't until the 5th. After we go buy a car on Monday.
We're not going to buy a car on Monday.
What makes you think we're not going to buy a car on Monday?
That's a big purchase, okay. Well, we need one check engine
light. I mean, I don't know that the
check engine light just came on. Of course, when I'm trading in
the car, it's not there. I don't know you're talking.
Oh my God, we're not buying a car on Labor Day.
I think we are buying a car on Labor Day.
We need we that. Scares.
Me, we need to go look at a new car.
This will. We need to look at a new car,
yes. Either we get the low end that
we can totally afford or we go ahead and we splurge and we get
the highest end because they're having some great sales in the
2025 models and we could also get it at 0% interest, which
would be fantastic. I just, you know, it's a big
purchase and we're saving money for other things.
Agreed. And it just makes me nervous of
like spending money in that direction.
Greed. And also it's even though our
cars giving us troubles, it's our first car that we bought
together. It's hard to like, let it go.
I mean, I don't mean to roll my eyes.
That's your reason to not buy a new.
Well, and it's, you know, I want to like give another try, but
then it like keeps literally failing us.
We're not failing. It's not failing.
It's. Been fine it's just the the the
the check engine light. It keeps coming up with this
stupid like catalytic converter cooler system doesn't work,
which is just dumb because it doesn't need to happen like
everyone on the line says you can just have that disconnected
and it won't happen again. But.
Regardless, we lost the audience, so we're not sorry.
We're going to look at a car and we'll we'll see.
We will see. I think we lost the audience
like 45 minutes ago. This was like a wild episode.
It has been all. Over the place, yeah.
But we have covered everybody, that's for sure, numerous times.
I really hope we see Katie again before the reunion.
I, I'm worried we won't. I'm, I, I don't need to see her
just have hanging out with abandon.
I don't need that. And and Matt.
Matt, I need her to be involved with the women.
Someone's gonna have to talk to her like.
Can Gina go get tea with her? Gina wants something to do with
her. Emily wants something to do with
her, Shannon said. Gretchen is like, you're the
worst person ever. I can't ever trusted you.
Jen's abandoned her. So, Tamara, you're right.
There's, like I told you, like from the get go.
So it's Tamara's the only one who would be the one to be like,
OK, let's sit down and actually talk about something.
And that's when like, Katie will probably throw something out
there that's crazy and Tamara will take it back to the group
and. Yeah.
Yeah, All right. Well, sorry Katie, we tried.
Yeah, but we don't know. We don't know what's going to
happen. We haven't seen the mid season
trailer yet. True.
You know, I just hope it's more drama spread out and not focus
on one person. I feel like after next week's
episode we'll get the mid season trailer because next week will
be episode 8. This week this is 8.
I thought it was 7. 7 was last week.
You're right, this is 8, so yeah.
Yeah. I mean, because then it's will
be the trip and the yeah. The trip, so yeah, after next
week up. So I think we'll get yeah, the
mid season because we're mid season.
Okay, okay. Well, OC, I guess they're
delivering. They are.
They are delivering, but again, this episode was a little
disappointing, I think, because it was predictable as to what
would have happened. Like what happened?
What do you think happens? Happens, You know, right?
They're like Katie's a big liar and they don't address the
Gretchen line. Yes, which I need.
I guess that's keeping me tuned in for next week.
Yes. So till next.
Time till next time.