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Welcome to another episode of 
Husbands Watching Housewives. 

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I'm Scott and I'm Jeff, and we 
just watched an episode of The 

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Real Housewives of Orange 
County. 

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We sure did. 
Yes. 

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And that was a bit of a let 
down, I'd say. 

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It wasn't all I'd say. 
Wouldn't say it's a let down, it

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just was. 
It wasn't all that we were 

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promised. 
It was rough. 

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I didn't think it it, it went in
a very obvious direction and I 

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thought there would be something
more to it and we'll get to the 

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lie detector test of it all. 
But. 

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So the obvious direction was 
Persian New Year. 

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I didn't see that I. 
Didn't see. 

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Yeah. 
I just thought it was like, oh, 

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I'm like everyone over for like,
you know, just like. 

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A part for a lie detector party.
Yes, I didn't know it was also 

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going to be a surprise, but I 
guess that's, you know, you want

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people so they're not going to 
be prepared. 

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But anyways they. 
Don't take a bunch of Xanax just

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to calm themselves down and. 
I was like, damn it. 

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I I did like that they're like 
there's no alcohol here. 

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What's going on? 
Yeah, they're. 

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Like, oh, we get. 
It but neither here nor there 

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yes, I'm a little out of sorts 
today this week. 

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Are you out of well, it's so 
dumb. 

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So I haven't shaved in a little 
while. 

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Like I think I shaved last week.
And part of it is my 30th high 

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school reunion is on Saturday, 
right? 

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And so like I want to be clean 
shaven for it and like I want to

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get like I want to look the most
me I can look. 

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The only want to shave once this
week, is that why? 

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Well, so I only usually shave 
once and oh, there's a spider on

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the ceiling over there. 
Oh, there is. 

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Let's pretend it's not there and
we're talking, OK, Then we'll 

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kill it. 
I mean, we'll escort it out of 

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the house. 
Later, out of the house, it's 

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time for you to leave. 
No, shaving's always been a 

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really weird thing for me 'cause
like, I don't, I don't like 

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having like shadow or growth or 
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What's it called? 
Scruff. 

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Scruff. 
I don't like it. 

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I don't like it at all. 
But like, if I shave midweek, 

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then like I have to wait for it 
to get longer enough so I can 

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shave it again or else it's just
like rubbing my face off, right.

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And also the timing with work 
this week, like one of these 

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days on Tuesday we left for 
work. 

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I was, we were really running 
late, so I really didn't have 

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time to shave. 
And so I was like, ah, and I 

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all. 
And Wednesday I was like, Oh, 

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should I? 
And then today I was like, well,

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now if I shave, I won't have 
enough, you know, growth to 

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shave again on Saturday. 
So now I'm just going to power 

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through and. 
I didn't know this at all, like 

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this is not something you shared
with me well. 

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I you know, I The timing of 
shaving isn't necessarily 

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anything you really need to 
share with one's husband. 

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No, but you know me, I shaved 
once a month. 

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That's when I shaved my head. 
Yeah, I shaved my face and I 

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just like, grew this like, 
scruffy beard. 

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So I'm like, this is too much. 
And you know, this is too much 

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too. 
And you just. 

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This, this I can't I this is 
driving me nuts. 

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Like even when I had like, you 
know, a beard, I still kept like

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the neck trimmed and everything 
is the last thing I want to be 

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is neckbeard don't want that at 
all. 

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And it just, it just it's 
driving me insane and I have to 

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get through tomorrow and then 
and then OK also, so my friends 

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help. 
As you know, we our catio, we 

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had a catio when we bought this 
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Our house came with a catio and 
it was basically a you're 

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looking at me like I'm crazy. 
No, I understand. 

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I know you to be truthful. 
You're not lying about this. 

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Thank you so much. 
The previous owners of this 

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house had cats, and they built a
catio themselves. 

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The little DIY project, the one 
good project they did DIY. 

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Yeah. 
Get to that another day. 

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And they had their, they had 
their lure boxes out there. 

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And we used it not for that 
purpose, but for just our cats 

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to hang out there. 
And then it got dry rod and also

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termites. 
Termites. 

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And so we tore it down a little 
bit before Maeve passed away. 

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And we got this temporary new 
one, which is kind of like now 

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the new one or the existing one.
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And you know, well, all cabs 
likes it. 

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So she's, you know, but. 
Long story short, all the wood 

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has been sitting in the 
backyard, which you know if 

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you're getting junky. 
If you're getting rid of 

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something because there's 
termites in it, then maybe don't

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leave it in your backyard for 
another. 

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I didn't. 
Think about that. 

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For however many months. 
So I mean, I'm sure they're not 

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near the house, they're further 
from the house. 

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So I'm fine with. 
Anyway, my friends agreed to 

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help. 
He's got a truck. 

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You know, everyone has a friend 
with a truck. 

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He's much more than just a 
friend with a truck, but he also

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happens to be a good friend with
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So he's going to come by on the 
morning of the reunion and we're

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going to go to the dump and get 
rid of all all this paint and 

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stuff and needles from when we 
had to give made medication. 

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I'm getting rid of all of it. 
I'm getting going to the dump. 

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Is it you're right anxious about
this? 

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I'm anxious about that. 
I'm just because, well, one a 

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friend who, you know, I don't 
like the perception that like 

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we're you know, but I'm using my
friend for his truck, which is 

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not true, which is not true, and
he offers all the time. 

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It's just that, you know, I've 
had to be a little bit more 

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straightforward of like, hey, I 
really should use you and your 

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truck can when you go to the the
dump and you know, so it's fine.

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It's all good, but we're. 
Let's say, yeah, The thing is 

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like you're not just calling him
up once a year for, like things 

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that you're trying to use them 
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We hang out quite a bit. 
We were at their house couple 

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weeks ago, you know. 
Well, like a month ago, yeah. 

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About they all blend together. 
And we're going to see them on 

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Saturdays, so I mean, it's all 
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Friend, yes, yeah. 
So it's all going to be good. 

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And then on top of it, I don't 
know what to wear. 

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And then like a lot of like 
there's, so there's a Facebook 

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group of the reunion and like 
there's a lot of activity in 

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there from a lot of people I 
don't recognize. 

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And I recognize a lot of people 
and these people. 

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I'm just like, who's that? 
Part of it is, of course, you 

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know, married names. 
So I don't recognize a lot of 

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the girls I went to school with 
because they're they're using 

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their married names now. 
So I'm like, who's that? 

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And then I have to like reach 
the back of my brain. 

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But it's also pointing out to me
that though I know or that I 

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knew a lot of people in high 
school, I was not super popular,

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but I knew who they were and 
they knew who I was. 

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And I've kept in touch with a 
lot of people just by living 

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back in my hometown and 
everything. 

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I don't know, a lot of people 
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And so I'm really not dreading, 
but I'm really a little more 

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anxious about the the whole 
awkward Who are you? 

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Well, I think so much of this 
reunion and probably like large 

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social gatherings like this, 
people are going to get into 

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smaller groups. 
And so we'll know our friends 

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who still live here in town and 
we'll hang out with them. 

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And it's like, you have to like,
there's no icebreaker game. 

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Like you have to go talk to 
somebody you haven't spoken to 

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in 30 years. 
That's like, true, true. 

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The thing about reunions, it's 
just you're not all going to get

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together in Kumbaya. 
It's just, you know, it's not. 

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That's because that's not what 
high school was. 

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No, for sure. 
And then the other thing I'm 

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realizing and I'll, you know. 
Not that I would know because 

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I've never been to any reunion. 
Well, so that's The thing is I 

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think there's a lot of people 
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this because they didn't go to 
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The 10 or the 20? 
So that means that like there's 

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me, people who just haven't, I 
haven't seen literally in 30 

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years. 
So it's not like it's going to 

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be a bunch of people that I saw 
ten years ago and 10 years 

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before that. 
It's me, people I have not seen 

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in 30 years. 
That's. 

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Crazy 13. 
Years and it's also you start 

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thinking about that I was I was 
1730 years ago like that's just 

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so. 
Weird. 

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It's so weird. 
It's so weird. 

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Like that time, you know, we're 
two years apart and it's just so

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bizarre to think it's been that 
long. 

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But. 
Yeah, the world is letting me be

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an adult for all this time and 
no one stopped me. 

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I'm just like. 
And also, it's so weird, like 

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we're adults and we like, want a
house and, you know, we're 

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making plans for the future and 
right, It's just bizarre. 

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At some point I just keep 
expecting someone's gonna walk 

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in and be like, Nope, sorry, 
you, you weren't allowed to 

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graduate, you need to go back 
to. 

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You weren't allowed to graduate.
You're not supposed. 

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To have all this. 
That diploma back that you have 

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over there. 
Oh, it's so it's, oh, yeah. 

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It's just such a weird thing. 
So yeah, I'm a little anxious 

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about that. 
The shaving, getting the 

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backyard, you know, taken care 
of and, and just kind of, you 

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know, it'll be nice once it's 
all taken care of. 

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I'll feel better on Saturday 
after the dump run. 

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So also I don't know how the 
dump works. 

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Yeah, I don't even. 
Like and so he'll know like he's

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gone to the dump a lot. 
Not like he hangs out at the 

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dump, but he. 
Jumps like a truck truck. 

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Well, he has a truck, I mean, so
he drives it to the dump and he 

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doesn't have termites laying in 
his backyard. 

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Or maybe he doesn't I. 
Forgot about the whole termites 

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of it all. 
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So, you know, I haven't jumped, 
but yeah, I'm excited just to, 

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it's funny because like I don't 
normally like social situations,

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but I'm like, this is so 
interesting, this high school 

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reunion. 
That's not my high school. 

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And like, so I don't have to 
worry about it. 

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I just have to like be there 
like, oh, hey, I'm Jeff, I'm the

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husband. 
But to like meet these people 

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who I've heard about and like, 
oh, you're the 1:00 and you're 

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that story. 
And you know what I think? 

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I think you're fortunate in that
you have enough of our friends, 

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partners and wives that will be 
there and you can just hang out 

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with them and kind of have like 
the wives club over there and 

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be. 
Like, well, same with that is 

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that so many of are not so many,
but there is a good amount of 

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friends who still live here in 
town or I've met them in other 

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situations. 
And so it's not like I'm going 

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in totally blind, like not 
knowing anybody. 

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That would make me feel very 
awkward and like. 

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But the fact that I know so many
people, not so like a good 

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number of people who become my 
friends through you, you know, 

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I. 
Do want you to fuck with people 

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though. 
I do want someone to just be 

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like, like, oh, do I know you 
like? 

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Oh yeah, we totally. 
We had. 

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To. 
Come on. 

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Unlike certain people know see, 
I'm a bad liar. 

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I really am. 
I just can't. 

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I can't do it. 
So. 

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I think you could. 
Just you see, now actually 

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knowing that because before I 
was saying like I would probably

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be very anxious in a lie 
detector test and I would pale, 

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fail pale. 
But now I'm like, I wouldn't 

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take one to see like because I 
cannot lie so. 

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I mean, lie detectors are I 
mean, they're obviously not 

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reliable. 
They're not admissible in court,

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right? 
Like any you know, it just they 

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just detect your change in 
behavior. 

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And if you, you could do the 
same thing by looking at 

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somebody and just seeing like, 
you know, with their eyes 

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remain, you know, or if they're 
just answering questions in a 

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natural manner. 
So it's just really, really 

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bizarre. 
But anyway. 

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Anyways, before I ever see we 
get to that, the Potomac trailer

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came out today that. 
Makes me nervous too. 

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Now I'm. 
Shizzy makes me nervous. 

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What were your thoughts on the 
trailer overall? 

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The specifics. 
Well, I think I might have to 

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start with with specifics. 
I don't need any more Drag King 

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Ashley just oh God, top of the 
list. 

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Don't need it. 
Don't want it. 

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Don't don't got it it. 
Makes me cackle. 

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Like in that one scene in the 
trailer when she's talking to 

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Stacey, it's like you're weird 
and she's been full drag king. 

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Yeah, you are not a good drag 
king. 

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It's. 
Weird to me, I don't see, here's

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The thing is Ashley in the whole
Dragon King situation is that it

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makes me feel like a hypocrite 
of sorts because I mean, I've, I

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guess I've seen some good drag 
kings before, but you just I 

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just don't, I don't know, I 
don't lose myself in the 

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illusion of a drag king. 
Every drag king I've ever seen, 

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I'm like, that is a woman 
dressed as a man. 

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Whereas there are some drag 
Queens where I've just been 

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like, Oh yeah, that's an 
illusion, That's an illusion. 

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So maybe I've just not seen good
drag kings so that my bar is too

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low, but I just think that 
Ashley's even lower on that. 

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But I feel like a complete 
asshole for like just scoffing 

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at Drag king. 
Look, OK, so The thing is, yes, 

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she's, she is queer, Yeah. 
She's like, you know, being very

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passionate and sincere about 
being a drag king. 

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I think that's what it is. 
Yeah. 

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The sincerity, but also a mix of
like, I'm doing this for the 

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show, yes, that makes it just 
like. 

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I think I would feel 10 times 
better if I if Ashley was 

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posting Dragon King photos when 
they're not filming. 

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And if she wasn't on the show to
begin with, would she be doing 

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this correct? 
I don't know. 

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So that was my one thing. 
I the other thing I'm not 

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looking forward to a Stacey 
pylon. 

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I hate a pylon as we'll get to. 
It's just for some reason 

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Giselle and Ashley decided they 
don't like Stacy very much. 

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So Giselle and I'm sure other 
people start, you know, 

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trickling into it. 
And it's like, why are you so 

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bothered by her? 
Because the things that you're 

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pissed off at her, you know the 
TJ of it all. 

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And then it's going to get into 
the lying about being a 

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competing weed lie. 
And you know, Eddie, it doesn't 

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concern you. 
You don't care about these other

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people, but you want to out this
chick. 

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And I don't know. 
And also coming off of this with

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Orange County, with everyone 
piling on Katie, yes, and then 

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last season with everyone piling
on Mia and everyone like, and 

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everyone on Potomac just trying 
to ice out everyone every. 

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Season it's happened to Wendy. 
Wendy up in the Candace before 

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happened to Monique. 
Who's coming back? 

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I'm just really tired of it and 
I don't want to see that happen 

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again. 
So if that ends up being which 

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I'm afraid it's going to be the 
majority of the season and. 

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It's at least like one or two 
people who are like cool with 

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her, whether that be like Wendy 
or whoever. 

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I just it's just it's just never
good when everyone is against 

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one person, right. 
It's very awkward and it. 

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Especially because I can hear, I
can hear Giselle now if she 

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didn't say it in the trailer, 
because at some point I just in 

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the trailer, I was like, oh, I 
just kind of stopped watching 

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when I was watching, but I 
stopped paying. 

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Attention checked out. 
Yeah, I can just hear Giselle 

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saying like the same thing that 
they're saying to Katie, like, 

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well, how can we trust you? 
Like you lied about, you know, 

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this weed line. 
And it's like, what are you 

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possibly gonna do that's gonna 
are you going on QVC anytime 

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soon, Brazil? 
Are you gonna be like, I'm just 

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already not into it? 
And the I think, I think the 

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fact that she and Ashley so 
quickly gang up like on her in 

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the trailer, I'm not in. 
Jarna says something to her as 

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well. 
I'm glad to see Karen is back. 

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Yeah. 
We'll see. 

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You know what she does? 
Yeah. 

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She was. 
She was in the trailer about as 

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much as she was in last season. 
Pretty much, yeah. 

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I thought it was funny when, you
know, Stacy pointed out. 

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You don't have a husband but and
that we see Stacey's husband in 

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the trailer. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Oh, and then hearing that that's
the whole thing that like she's 

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apparently trying to get back 
together with him. 

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But then she's also trying to 
get together with Chris Samuels.

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And then like Monique pops in. 
Yeah, I am interested in the 

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Monique Giselle, sit down. 
And I know it'll be more so I'm 

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sure Monique apologizing and 
then Giselle taking any 

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accountability for this shit she
said about Monique for several 

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seasons, right? 
Because that's Giselle doesn't 

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take accountability. 
Yeah. 

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So again, I'm already looking 
forward to that. 

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Tia, I'm interested about, 
interested in. 

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Is that her name? 
I can't remember. 

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There isn't Tia. 
There's Tia in an Angel. 

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Yeah, Tia's the one with the the
accent. 

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The one that I see is like 
reminded me of Kim Cole's 

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putting on a bad accent. 
It. 

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Really felt kind. 
Of bad. 

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I really felt like I was 
watching like a weird episode of

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Living Single and it was like 
Kim Cole's got like a What was 

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her character's name? 
So, Sinclair, Yeah. 

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Sinclair got like, topped with 
her hand in the cookie jar and 

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she's like, am I taking the 
cookies? 

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That's really what I thought it 
was. 

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And she put like, oh, and then 
wanders off camera. 

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She says you're like and we're 
taking the biscuits, yes. 

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Exactly, I said. 
Sinclair would probably say 

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cookies. 
She would. 

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She wouldn't know she. 
Wouldn't have the exactly. 

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Yeah, I forgot. 
Yeah, there's her. 

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There's the other New Girl, 
Angel and. 

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That's gonna be confusing since 
Giselle's. 

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Daughter's name? 
Angel. 

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Yeah, I'm. 
Sure, it'll be a hijinx of 

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hilarity. 
Just bring it up at least 20 

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times. 
Well, I like in the trailer, 

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just just, I was like, I have a 
friend and it's like, OK, 'cause

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he lost Robin, now you have to 
replace her. 

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This British lady got it all 
right. 

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Well, and then I used to. 
They're all coming for her for 

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whatever reason anyways. 
It's yeah, it was, it was very 

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chaotic, the trailer and I think
it was a lot of things like 

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throwing together without 
context. 

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Yeah. 
And we'll as it goes on, like, 

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oh, this is what they were 
talking about. 

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But for now, it's just like, I 
think like shucking things. 

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We're shucking things like reads
like snap, snap, you know? 

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The Internet seemed to be losing
their crap over the Karen 

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letter. 
Like like the. 

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Whole Oh my God, I. 
Was like, I don't want, I don't 

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want a gimmick. 
That's what I don't want. 

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I don't want a gimmick to like 
the trailer. 

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I don't want a gimmick to. 
Potomac has always been very 

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gimmicky. 
Very much so. 

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But usually it was Karen and her
party except for gimmick. 

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We were like, last year's 
trailer was like like the 1950s 

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housewife. 
They said. 

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They always do have to have like
a gimmick to say that. 

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I don't need that. 
Just I don't need a trailer. 

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I think everyone aside from the 
letter, they're losing their 

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minds over Mauricio randomly 
popping up. 

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00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:44,600
Oh, I don't think I know. 
You didn't know. 

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I didn't think you did because 
like I was like, we haven't 

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talked about this. 
Well, you should have mentioned 

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something. 
Ratio pops up and they're like 

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she didn't. 
He had Giselle hug and they're 

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like, oh, good to see you. 
And it's like everyone's like, 

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what are you doing here without 
Kyle for Exia? 

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Is he selling Giselle's house? 
No, they're also in like western

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gear so maybe it's when they go 
on their. 

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Trail. 
Perhaps they run into them 

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somewhere? 
Maybe selling agent agency party

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in Virginia. 
I don't. 

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Know so that means salt lakes 
coming back on the 16th. 

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When is Potomac coming back? 
October 5th. 

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October 5th. 
So a couple. 

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Weeks later, so we Sunday, OK, 
we're going to have a nice 

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schedule again of everything. 
Again, they could have left 

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Miami on Wednesday, but maybe 
they say the ratings have been 

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doing well again after OC. 
But Miami will be wrapping up 

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soon so we won't have 4 like by 
October. 

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I don't think we'll have 4, 
right? 

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I like 3 fours too much. 
I was so worried because I'm 

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going camping that one day I'm 
leaving on a Thursday. 

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Right. 
So you're gonna. 

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We're gonna. 
We're gonna miss. 

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OC in. 
In Miami, but I'll be back that 

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Saturdays. 
Right, right Record. 

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Yes. 
But damn it, I thought I had 

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that all time differently. 
I thought I had it timed so that

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one of the shows would be done. 
Well, we're gonna, so we'll have

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like the debut of Salt Lake, so 
we'll record that. 

400
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Would be the night before. 
Yeah, I'll just have to edit it 

401
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before I leave. 
Oh good, I'll have time to edit.

402
00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:09,920
It on Wednesday yeah, yeah. 
And then, totally unrelated but 

403
00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,440
related, Secret Lives of Mormon 
Wives comes out the week of 

404
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Bravo Con that Thursday. 
Oh well, that's a few months 

405
00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:16,960
later. 
We have to hear. 

406
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That well, it's supposed to be 
September, but then it's like, 

407
00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:20,960
wait, November? 
That's weird. 

408
00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:25,880
But so anything going on with 
you or do you want us to talk 

409
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about Orange County? 
Nothing is going on with me, 

410
00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:31,800
nothing really like exciting. 
Nothing exciting so just 

411
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planning your work Christmas 
party. 

412
00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,400
You know, yes, it's early, but 
you have to do these things 

413
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early and grab a venue. 
So we looked at 1:00 today and I

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liked. 
So we'll see if my boss likes 

415
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it. 
And yeah, that's my thing. 

416
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It's a nice from my perspective,
it's a nice refreshing change 

417
00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:51,720
and you're smart to have started
earlier because normally it's 

418
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like November 15th and you're 
about to play. 

419
00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:55,880
We've got to plan a Christmas 
party. 

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00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:57,160
I. 
Feel like last year I, I might 

421
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have been October, I looked 
into, yeah, I'd have to look at 

422
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the emails. 
But yes, he was like, what? 

423
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,120
It's so early. 
I'm like, it's really not. 

424
00:19:03,120 --> 00:19:04,840
Some people like plan a year and
a half. 

425
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,120
Some people plan at the previous
holiday, yeah. 

426
00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,880
Well, you're lucky because like 
your work, you have a venue that

427
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you own, and there's the two of 
that you. 

428
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,560
Have that lucky I get to go to 
the same place for everything 

429
00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,160
all the time. 
Yeah. 

430
00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,440
No, it's actually comforting at 
some point. 

431
00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,400
No, that's cool. 
Yeah, I'm I, you know, I'm most 

432
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proud because you for the 
longest time are like, I'm not 

433
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planning the Christmas card. 
I'm not doing it. 

434
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,440
And then you're like reluctantly
doing it. 

435
00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,280
I think it was your success last
year of playing the really good 

436
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one that you liked that 
everyone. 

437
00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:36,840
Was my favorite so far, Yeah, 
yeah. 

438
00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:38,520
Yeah, yeah. 
And once you were like, I'm 

439
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,760
listening to myself, I'm not 
listening to others. 

440
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,840
I was talking to other people on
my team and he was saying like, 

441
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,560
how did you end up doing this? 
I'm like, well, because I just 

442
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I'm the one who pays for stuff. 
So I they're like, you should 

443
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pay for this party When I was 
like, as the years have gone on,

444
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this is my 4th 1. 
I just like doing it because I 

445
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like being in control and I like
picking things. 

446
00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:01,960
And so no one can like say 
bupkis because I'm like, I 

447
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:04,120
picked it. 
Well, my boss can say no, I want

448
00:20:04,120 --> 00:20:06,440
this venue. 
But you know, I'm like. 

449
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,320
It's just nice to like, control 
something. 

450
00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:12,800
Right, but I think you would be 
absolutely gutted if one of your

451
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,720
coworkers was like, I hate that 
place. 

452
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,040
That was dumb. 
You would just. 

453
00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:18,240
And I'd be like, you'd plan it 
yourself. 

454
00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:22,120
Fuck them off. 
And then you're fired, OK. 

455
00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:26,480
Say it, forget it, write it, 
regret it. 

456
00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,600
So I would tell him to his face.
Fuck off. 

457
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,680
But not your boss, just a Co 
worker. 

458
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:34,040
Not my boss, my coworker. 
You can, yeah. 

459
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,160
Scratch. 
So, okay. 

460
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,320
Yeah, that's me. 
That's us cat over there rolling

461
00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,360
around. 
Yeah, cats. 

462
00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:46,440
Doing okay. 
Gaps is Gavin, Yeah, we're 

463
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:50,000
talking about you. 
Yeah, OC. 

464
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,560
Orange County something. 
How did this begin? 

465
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,200
It started with weren't they 
going to meet Kiki Monique that 

466
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,160
that happened. 
It was a bunch of, like, random 

467
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,480
scenes we got. 
OK, so we're talking about the 

468
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,240
random scenes, Heather, 
Basically the whole scene, Like,

469
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,960
I'm with my family. 
We're playing poker like we 

470
00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:07,480
normally would. 
The kids are like, why are we 

471
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:07,920
here? 
Yeah. 

472
00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,520
Not that they don't love each 
other, but they're like, we 

473
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,160
don't usually do this. 
This is family game night isn't 

474
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:13,920
a thing, but it was basically 
just to establish. 

475
00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,720
Hasn't sold the house yet. 
Spoiler alert, House is sold 

476
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,640
already. 
Oh, it is. 

477
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,320
Yeah. 
The Josh sold it, yeah. 

478
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,200
Good for that. 
Did they sell it for a good 

479
00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,640
amount of money? 
I can't remember. 

480
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:24,800
Probably. 
So I'm sure she'll break even. 

481
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,040
I'm sure she doesn't need the 
money. 

482
00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:27,920
I think Heather's going to be 
OK. 

483
00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,120
She won't be house poor. 
Yeah, I guess that it's reverse 

484
00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,480
if you're saying I know what 
you're so. 

485
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:40,600
Yeah, her family is lovely. 
That part I did like, you know, 

486
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,760
she had a biopsy, so she had a 
Band-Aid on her nose. 

487
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,320
Well, actually mentioned it, and
that was Heather. 

488
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,880
Yeah, Shannon had her father 
seen. 

489
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,560
God. 
Damn cringe. 

490
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:55,200
Yeah, I ever, ever, ever have. 
I would never. 

491
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,440
I would. 
Restaurant. 

492
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,560
I would be so horribly 
secondhand embarrassed, so I 

493
00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,760
would never do that. 
Yeah, it was so weird. 

494
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,920
And Cran, I don't. 
I don't even like having like 

495
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:08,760
telling the restaurant it's 
someone's birthday. 

496
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,680
Well, your birthday or my 
birthday. 

497
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,320
I don't like it, friends. 
I'll do it too because then I I 

498
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,840
can just say, well, it's not me.
But yeah, I don't even like when

499
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,440
the restaurant has to no, just 
it's like, no, no one, no one 

500
00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,760
who's working at a restaurant is
saying like, you know what I 

501
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,320
hope happens today? 
I hope I have to say happy 

502
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,120
birthday to at least 10 people. 
I don't make. 

503
00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:31,160
I'm ready to clap. 
Yeah, no, no, no. 

504
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,760
And then they said that other, 
other part of the scene was 

505
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,760
Shannon telling her dad that 
she's not sure if she's going to

506
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,840
trust Tamron, her dad. 
I mean, like, Yep, Uh huh. 

507
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:42,120
Yep. 
I'm 96. 

508
00:22:42,120 --> 00:22:45,440
I don't care. 
And then like, I guess talking 

509
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,960
about how he's, he flirts with 
all the women's. 

510
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:50,520
Lovely. 
I mean, he did look pretty good 

511
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:51,520
for 96. 
I would have. 

512
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,840
I would have guessed younger. 
It was like 80s. 

513
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,880
I mean, I just think in my mind,
96 is just yeah, like. 

514
00:22:58,560 --> 00:22:59,880
There's some people in 90s that 
they're just. 

515
00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:03,240
Like in my mind, right In my 
mind, by the time I'm 80, I'm 

516
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,400
going to be bedridden. 
So 96. 

517
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,080
No, you can't. 
We need you. 96 I'll I will I 

518
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,240
will be a coffin so. 
No. 

519
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:18,040
So we need you. 
OK, but no, what is it about it?

520
00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,120
I think it's just about him, he.
Gene, the Machine. 

521
00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:25,440
Gene the also, it really bothers
me that she does that to men's 

522
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,320
names that rhyme. 
No, that was or I think Earl 

523
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,400
that gave himself that Earl. 
Earl the Pearl? 

524
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,800
Yeah, I don't know, Maybe she's 
got some daddy issues. 

525
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,520
I mean, she probably does. 
But it was a lot of issues. 

526
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,960
But that bothered me. 
But also her dad kind of was 

527
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:42,160
giving me Hugh Hefner vibes. 
Oh I could see it, but not 

528
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,880
creepy and not a horrible 
person. 

529
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,120
I I I'll go with not a horrible 
person, but I'd say a little 

530
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:48,640
creepy. 
I'll say he was creepy, he was 

531
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,520
just older. 
He just didn't seem, he didn't 

532
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,360
seem, he didn't seem like the 
kind old man that gives you 

533
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,000
candy. 
Well, else didn't seem like an 

534
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:57,240
asshole who's like trying to get
into the drama be like, no, you 

535
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,240
should not trust that Tamara. 
He's like, yeah, I get it. 

536
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:00,560
It's hard. 
Like he's basically like a 

537
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:04,800
glaring and like being her talk 
to only for a certain amount of 

538
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:06,560
time. 
He's like, look, I'm older here.

539
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,000
I don't have. 
We ever seen Shannon go over to 

540
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,120
Jean's house? 
Has she ever gone to visit her 

541
00:24:11,120 --> 00:24:13,080
dad? 
I want to see. 

542
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,400
Yeah, there was a scene last 
year because she was talking 

543
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,240
about John Jansen with. 
Over at his house, I can't. 

544
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,360
Remember his house It was but 
they had a scene I. 

545
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,880
Remember, I remember there was 
one, but I kind of want to see 

546
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,560
where Jean lives. 
I kind of want to see like, does

547
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:26,920
he live in like? 
Is this the living? 

548
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,800
That was my one question, yeah. 
Or it's like a like an old, like

549
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,400
a retirement community. 
Yeah. 

550
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,600
Or just in 96. 
You need someone to help you 

551
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,200
with your pills. 
Maybe he's got a nurse who comes

552
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,240
in and you. 
Know, yeah. 

553
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,520
So or, or I guess also what I'm 
wondering is like because he 

554
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,400
lived like in a time capsule of 
a house. 

555
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:47,480
A time capsule. 
This is my house from the 70s, 

556
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:49,320
you know. 
Is doing a time capsule 

557
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,680
collection with Sutton. 
Yes, that's just a capsule 

558
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,240
collection. 
Oh, it's whatever Sutton was in 

559
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,240
the time capsule. 
He. 

560
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,280
Does indeed. 
So anyway, yes, Shannon and Jean

561
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,200
the machine. 
What are the random scenes? 

562
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,040
There was. 
I meant to remember them. 

563
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,920
But those were like the. 
Those were the big. 

564
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,200
Ones the basic ones, so was no. 
Jen and her kids talking. 

565
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,800
That was nothing. 
The the bowl cut on her one her 

566
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,360
kids have a certain. 
Hair. 

567
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,240
Aesthetic and I'm it's. 
Midwestern, because that's where

568
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:21,160
they're. 
Right. 

569
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:22,720
Utah. 
Utah, Yeah. 

570
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,720
Either way, I, I don't, I know. 
I've seen pictures of their 

571
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,600
father like on the Internet or 
something. 

572
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,920
They always, always blurt out. 
Not on the Internet. 

573
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:32,600
On the Internet. 
Yeah, on the Internet. 

574
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,320
Yeah, yeah. 
But I can't. 

575
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:36,520
Every time I see their kid, I 
actually, I won't say. 

576
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,960
Every time when there's more 
than one of her kids in the same

577
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,800
room, I'm like, who do they take
after? 

578
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,680
But then it's a hard game to 
play because some of them are 

579
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,960
adopted and you know all that 
stuff. 

580
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,560
Only one's adopted only one the.
Honest. 

581
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:50,120
All right, Either way, yeah, I 
don't need her. 

582
00:25:50,120 --> 00:25:51,480
I don't need to talk the kid 
talk. 

583
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,040
To no SO. 
We got to see Gretchen and Slade

584
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,600
taking down a chandelier over 
the tub and not being 

585
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:04,680
electrocuted. 
We get the big, not big, but the

586
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,040
more significant scene would be 
the Kiki of it all. 

587
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:13,840
Oh, right. 
Yes, here's the thing, I believe

588
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,040
Kiki that Katie spoke to her. 
I don't know why Katie's saying 

589
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,880
she's not. 
She's just admit I spoke to Kiki

590
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,600
and I told her what Gretchen 
told me, like let go of one lie 

591
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,040
to prove, you know, that someone
else is lying. 

592
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,960
So what I don't. 
And then, well, we'll get to the

593
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,320
jam thing in a second. 
But so Kiki reveals this and 

594
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,080
then Gretchen like really, 
really, really, really tries so 

595
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,400
hard to cry and she feels so 
betrayed. 

596
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:45,120
And the acting was horrible. 
The acting is horrible because I

597
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:51,560
even though Katie is a liar, I 
believe for certain certain that

598
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,600
Gretchen said that she went to 
the hospital and she felt like 

599
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,680
she was drugged. 
I believe that happened because 

600
00:26:55,680 --> 00:27:01,440
she said it in the damn Sprinter
with Tamra and Shannon, Yes. 

601
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,760
So you're not going to get me 
off that? 

602
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,320
I don't think I'm ever going to 
be able to. 

603
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:05,680
Yeah. 
And. 

604
00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:09,040
I hope it comes out later on. 
I hope Tamra's just sitting on 

605
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,920
this and that she didn't say it 
for a reason I don't know to be.

606
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,320
Continued Maybe the to be 
continued is Katie leaves and 

607
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,560
then Tamra brings. 
It up, I think maybe when we get

608
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,960
there. 
But like, yeah, I, I Gretchen 

609
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,600
was totally acting. 
She's a horrible, horrible 

610
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:29,400
actress, horrible actress, very 
pretty. 

611
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,160
Too many too much of A beat like
that was some full face and 

612
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,240
those eyelashes were like gonna 
jump out and grab you like that 

613
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,200
spider she oh God, that's home 
respond. 

614
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:44,640
Well, we'll never know. 
She Gretchen had Trixie Mattel's

615
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,520
makeup on. 
Like it was it was Trixie makeup

616
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,160
because I was noticing like even
the harsh line where like the 

617
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,480
eye makeup stopped. 
I was just like, whoa, like 

618
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,760
that's clearly like someone took
a ruler and like airbrushed to 

619
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,320
the. 
Ruler, so much makeup on, looks 

620
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:01,800
so much like Trixie that a 
member of her political party 

621
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,920
would not let her talk for 
children or do story time. 

622
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,480
Good one, good one. 
You had to refine that one, work

623
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,520
on that one. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

624
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,800
For Bravo Comp. 
Whip that out some witty like. 

625
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,720
Would be like that. 
Been banned from going to 

626
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,120
libraries. 
Talk to children. 

627
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,280
You can't figure that's it. 
That's it. 

628
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,880
Those eyelashes were kind of. 
So so. 

629
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,480
Yeah, so and then the Gina 
thing, I it did happen. 

630
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,440
They did the flashback. 
Thank you, producers. 

631
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,240
They definitely like dug through
and found that. 

632
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,120
I don't think Katie was trying 
to paint Gina as a waitress as 

633
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:44,520
AI would. 
Rather Gina paint her as a 

634
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,240
waitress. 
Where is that Hun? 

635
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,520
I got your cannoli. 
No, I don't think she's. 

636
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,760
Southern covered, Sorry. 
She wasn't trying to paint, 

637
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,880
paint Gina as a racist. 
She just thought it was a bit 

638
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,400
offensive how Gina phrased it. 
And then you hear Gina's point 

639
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,680
of view, which is like very much
like she got her back up. 

640
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,440
She was like, no, no, no, I was 
mad at this girl and da da da, 

641
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,960
like, why are you mad? 
Because I think she's trying to 

642
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,560
say Katie was putting it out 
there that she was only going to

643
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,440
wear Asian designers, being the 
first Asian woman on OC or just 

644
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:18,480
being an Asian woman in general.
She was going to support other 

645
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,520
Asians and then made a big point
of it and then she does making 

646
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,800
it seem that she got tried to be
like all big time and wear fancy

647
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,000
designers like Balmain and 
whatever and then that kind of 

648
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920
discounts her wearing Asian 
designers. 

649
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,520
But it doesn't it's not her 
lying about that. 

650
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,320
It's not her trying to be 
something else. 

651
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,600
She just wasn't going to just 
strip where only Asian 

652
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,400
designers, right. 
So, and I think I don't know, 

653
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,800
yeah. 
My problem with this whole thing

654
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,200
is that Gina, I think you're 
right. 

655
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,440
That was a complete thing. 
But what Gina should have just 

656
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,200
done is not get up on her soap 
box. 

657
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,400
Yeah, my horse and just said I 
was being messy. 

658
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,280
I was trying to say like, oh, I 
thought you were only going to 

659
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,320
have Asian designers because 
that's. 

660
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:05,840
Exactly what she what she meant.
Spirit of what she was doing, 

661
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,360
which is fine. 
It's totally fine to be like I 

662
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,240
was giving her shit for not 
wearing Asian designers. 

663
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,720
But the Kiki say, like Katie 
said that you were racist, no? 

664
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,280
I mean, I believe, I do believe 
Katie in saying that, like 

665
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,120
probably the way that Gina said 
it was a little aggressive. 

666
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,560
Or tone deaf. 
Right. 

667
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,400
Exactly. 
Like, I mean, when it comes down

668
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:31,240
to aggressions, it was more than
a microaggression, but I don't 

669
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:35,200
think that it was like intended.
I don't think there was intended

670
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,400
to be a, you know, like race of 
racistly aggressive, right? 

671
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,480
It was just more like, you know 
what I'm saying? 

672
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,160
Exactly what you're saying, 
Yeah, More pure. 

673
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:49,040
No, I don't think she no, no, I 
don't think Gina was being 

674
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,040
racist. 
I don't think she was trying to.

675
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,360
Katie was trying to paint her 
that way. 

676
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,680
She just thought it was very it 
was offensive to her. 

677
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,480
And as she explained to her 
confessional, growing up in 

678
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,680
prominent white communities, 
people can say things that 

679
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,120
don't, let's say that not their 
intention to be hurtful, but it 

680
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:08,040
can be hurtful. 
And she's entitled to that 

681
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,280
feeling, right? 
So unless Kiki is saying had 

682
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,080
said straight up, yeah, she told
me that you're the white lady 

683
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,440
who's like, it's not the racist 
thing. 

684
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:18,000
But she didn't say it that way, 
right? 

685
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,920
Right. 
You know who did say that thing 

686
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:22,960
that's dude on that TikTok 
video? 

687
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,640
The guy who said like, oh, I 
helped Katie out and then she 

688
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,280
like did he said that Katie said
that? 

689
00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:32,600
Gina said that she smelled like 
kimchi. 

690
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,840
Oh God. 
So, and whether that's shoe, who

691
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,840
knows? 
Again, there's so many, so many 

692
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,840
spinning, spinning. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

693
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,440
Hard to, like tell who's being 
truthful, right? 

694
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,760
But anyways, the main take away 
from that scene was Gretchen is 

695
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,440
a horrible actress. 
Yes. 

696
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:55,880
I mean, I could tell you that 
the other week when she walked, 

697
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,800
had to walk away from Tamara and
Shannon, like, I can't believe 

698
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,240
they said that. 
Or even like in the when she's 

699
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,880
in the back of the cab, she's 
like, I did go to the hospital. 

700
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,400
I felt sick. 
The hospital? 

701
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,360
Sorry, you're reminding me of 
some inside joke that we have. 

702
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:16,480
What is it? 
Hospital? 

703
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,080
No, it's it's Barack. 
No, Barack. 

704
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:21,880
Oh, no, Yeah, you're right. 
It is. 

705
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,840
It's What's your face as 
Michelle Obama. 

706
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:28,640
It's Viola Davis playing 
Michelle Obama in that TV 

707
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,840
limited series about first 
ladies and she really put it on 

708
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,520
with like, Oh no Barack and like
the voice that like Michelle 

709
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,400
really do. 
But Viola, who was an amazing 

710
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:43,240
EGOT winning actress, but it's 
it was a little much. 

711
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,400
Much it was. 
It was very school marmishing, 

712
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,960
Conda said. 
No, Barack, we do not. 

713
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:47,880
We don't do that. 
Oh. 

714
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,840
No, Oh no, Oh no. 
To this day we still that was 

715
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,480
like what 3 that was during 
like. 

716
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:56,840
That's during like post like 
right? 

717
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,680
After the 2021, it was still 
about four years later. 

718
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,040
Oh, no, we're going to be 
telling that to our children. 

719
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,720
Oh, no, Oh no, We, we don't 
touch the hot stones. 

720
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,280
We. 
Don't do that. 

721
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,080
Oh, no. 
Oh no. 

722
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,040
I don't know. 
So yeah. 

723
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,600
Basically, we get to the party, 
right? 

724
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:20,800
Yes, which I didn't know Shane. 
I mean, we didn't watch some 

725
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,280
years of OC. 
Yeah, So we we learned that 

726
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,480
Shane was half Persian. 
Probably so. 

727
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:26,800
Probably. 
So it's probably been on the 

728
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,600
show before, but we're like, OK,
OK. 

729
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,320
And it's Persian New Year. 
Yeah, I didn't. 

730
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,720
I when I, I mean, yeah, it did 
seem a little performative. 

731
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,040
Like felt like Emily needed an 
excuse to have this party and so

732
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,040
she was. 
Like I'm having a get together, 

733
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,120
you know? 
I also right, I also would have 

734
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,800
been like, OK, Persian New Year 
and her mother-in-law was there,

735
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:49,960
but her mother-in-law was not 
there. 

736
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,200
So what was it like? 
I'm going to throw this and then

737
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,200
later on when you bring her the 
leftovers, what's going on? 

738
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:56,840
I don't. 
Because the old point was her 

739
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,840
father in law's, you know, not 
feeling well. 

740
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,120
So I need to do a big thing at 
the mother in law's house. 

741
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,560
So she's like, I feel like I 
need to do something for just my

742
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,840
coworkers. 
Yeah, my friends. 

743
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:09,840
Seemed strange. 
And that involved also egging 

744
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:10,880
her own house. 
Yeah. 

745
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:13,639
I didn't quite understand to the
ward. 

746
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,679
Off screen I mean it seems to be
one of the traditions. 

747
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,199
I don't know what that's about. 
I wish I could have explained it

748
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,280
more. 
I also wanted to know does it 

749
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,040
have to be raw eggs because that
shit stains. 

750
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,159
Yes, have you? 
Ever. 

751
00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,040
Have you ever egged? 
No, I never egged someone's 

752
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:27,719
house. 
Gross. 

753
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,960
That'd be very. 
I mean, growing up in the 

754
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:32,840
suburbs like this, you know, and
then the I grew up in the. 

755
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:35,760
Suburbs I do that's. 
Still, you know how wholesome 

756
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,639
this town is in this. 
Town we at Google's house is 

757
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,360
good. 
I I I toilet papered and I egged

758
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,520
once and only once, but my 
brothers. 

759
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:48,600
Oh, my brothers, sure. 
They, they were prolific Eggers 

760
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,840
and toilet papers. 
And the point where, like my 

761
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,239
mom, my mom would have to stop 
buying eggs like before the 

762
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,880
weekend, because if she bought 
like eggs, like on a Friday, 

763
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,280
tonight, they'd be gone and we'd
have no eggs until she would. 

764
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,080
I'd be so mad if I was a. 
Yeah. 

765
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:06,280
Also, this is the other thing in
this in this town, when you 

766
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:10,800
graduated junior high, they used
to have shaving cream fights 

767
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,160
down at the Community Center at 
the heart. 

768
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,840
Yes. 
So all the 8th graders would go 

769
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,560
down and like you'd have like 
you just did a shaving cream 

770
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,080
fight. 
I remember my brother coming 

771
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,000
home like that day just head to 
toe covered in shaving cream and

772
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,880
by the time I got graduated 2 
years later they stopped it. 

773
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,600
They wouldn't allow it anymore. 
Someone like slip and fall. 

774
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,520
I don't know. 
Or maybe someone just, you know,

775
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:38,160
ate too much shaving cream. 
But yeah, yeah, that's how 

776
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:43,400
wholesome this town is. 
This town, I swear. 

777
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,800
So anyway, it's great. 
Where were we? 

778
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,440
Egging the egging. 
People. 

779
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,000
Yeah, so. 
Your whole thing who's very 

780
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,440
anxious like about this party 
because I knew this we all knew 

781
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,840
the setup and so it's like 
everyone would arrive and it's 

782
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,560
like Kays arrives and it's like 
this is very awkward no ones 

783
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,080
talking to Katie really and it's
like there's waiting for like 

784
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,800
this bomb to drop because. 
She was wearing that sweater. 

785
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,680
If she had, maybe it was cold in
there because the dress was 

786
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,840
super cute. 
Was she showed up without that 

787
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:13,840
sweater? 
Yes. 

788
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,000
She looked really cute and 
clearly she was like I need 

789
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,720
something. 
Yeah, there's the AC is like 

790
00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:19,600
pumping to keep all this food 
cold. 

791
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,880
Yeah, for the Persian New Year, 
that Simmons crank. 

792
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,920
Simmons. 
Simpsons. 

793
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:28,280
Simpsons, The Simpsons crank 
their AC and they're just nuts 

794
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,400
with that shit and. 
They started feeling nauseous 

795
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,720
and I was like, oh, it was bad. 
I mean, she was definitely, 

796
00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:36,080
Katie was laying it on thick. 
I mean, even before she knew 

797
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,800
there was going to be a lie 
detector, she was just like, I'm

798
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,240
so nervous to be around 
everybody and like, Oh well. 

799
00:36:41,240 --> 00:36:43,240
I'm nervous too. 
I mean like at the last get 

800
00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:46,360
together they basically are like
we think you're lying, you're a 

801
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,120
lying liar who lies and I mean, 
so perhaps what are you doing? 

802
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,200
She's. 
Getting drinks from the wet bar,

803
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,960
What do you want to do? 
What does she turn on the water,

804
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,320
start striking out of it? 
And you know crazy. 

805
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,800
We had that sink installed and I
think I've used it like 5 times.

806
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,160
I never use it. 
I don't use it. 

807
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,080
Yeah, also. 
Because there's no way to dry 

808
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,040
anything we don't have like 
maybe if we installed like a 

809
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,560
towel rack and we had a dish 
towel up here, maybe, I don't 

810
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,800
know. 
Or if we like cleared away for 

811
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,120
you to actually use that wet bar
because we just like just throw 

812
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,560
everything there. 
I always meant to get shelves to

813
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,000
put the liquor on. 
Oh, that's right. 

814
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,440
But then we put that thing 
above. 

815
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,120
It well, we can still take that 
down. 

816
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:22,640
Oh, I love that there. 
Well, we can move it, it, it 

817
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,000
fits perfect, fits perfect. 
There's other spots for it 

818
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:26,600
anyway. 
That's the theme chart from our 

819
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,600
wedding, by the way. 
Yes. 

820
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,960
By by the way, but no, the whole
Katy thing, I feel like there's 

821
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:35,320
a difference between like in 
housewives style, like I think 

822
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,520
many other housewives would show
up in that awkward situation. 

823
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,320
I would be one of them, a 
housewife if I were and just be 

824
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:45,880
like, what's up? 
Like and just like run ahead 

825
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,080
first into the problem where she
was sitting there quietly 

826
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,840
avoiding the situation. 
And I think that that may be the

827
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,200
difference between a lot of the 
way people handle shit. 

828
00:37:57,240 --> 00:38:01,720
I think she needs to, especially
after reunion, which I sincerely

829
00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:10,000
hope she will be there, that she
really comes in prepared and not

830
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,600
just letting them all. 
Because it can be really hard 

831
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,560
when everyone's against you to 
assert yourself. 

832
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,800
And regardless of how you feel 
about Katie, it's not fun as a 

833
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,280
viewer just to watch everyone 
pile on somebody and then 

834
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:24,800
they're just sitting there 
getting pummeled. 

835
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,440
It's just, you know, the 
equivalent of like, The Walking 

836
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,560
Dead when freaking like, right 
dude face who used to be on 

837
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,480
Grey's Anatomy, like pummeled 
Glenn to death with a baseball 

838
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,280
bat. 
Spoiler alert. 

839
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,040
Sorry. 
I've never even seen Walking 

840
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,360
Dead. 
Well, that's the last time I saw

841
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,400
Walking. 
I saw Walking Dead because it 

842
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,320
was so gross. 
But you know, you're right. 

843
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:48,000
You are. 
Yeah, you're right. 

844
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:49,480
You can. 
No, I don't. 

845
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,840
Know I forget his name anyways 
but the whole thing is though is

846
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,000
that if that's the way Katie's 
gonna be now yeah she's gonna be

847
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,600
just very. 
And I, if she's just gonna be 

848
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,160
like, OK, I can't do anything 
about this. 

849
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,720
She's not gonna be any different
at the reunion. 

850
00:39:02,720 --> 00:39:05,040
I don't think she's gonna come 
into the reunion guns a blazing 

851
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:05,760
and I don't. 
She has to. 

852
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:07,400
That's really especially if 
you're gonna go down. 

853
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,880
You're not getting back ass back
next season because everyone is.

854
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,440
Almost everyone is saying they 
won't film with you, then you 

855
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,200
have nothing to lose. 
Well, I don't know if you saw 

856
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:20,040
already like social media while 
we were watching it, I saw like 

857
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,840
they're saying that the next 
like most half the season 

858
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,440
doesn't have Katie in it. 
Well, I think for sure she 

859
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,960
didn't go on the trip to 
Amsterdam, right, So. 

860
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,160
But they're saying like the 
because the woman didn't want to

861
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,720
film with her, like the 
producers like whatever scenes 

862
00:39:33,720 --> 00:39:35,920
they were in, they've like she's
kind of edited. 

863
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:40,120
She's been kind of given the the
the Meili situation where 

864
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:43,280
they've kind of removed her from
stuff because like the story is 

865
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,280
just not going to be involving 
her, which I hope isn't true. 

866
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,320
But at the same time, unless 
she's going to be an advocate 

867
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,880
for herself and really stand up,
which I'm still mixed about 

868
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:53,960
because I think it's bullshit 
that she would have to. 

869
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,160
I think just being, I think the 
fact that she has an orange 

870
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:01,520
should guarantee for some sort 
of, you know, position there 

871
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:03,000
that the other women should 
respect. 

872
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:05,480
Like it's not their show. 
It's. 

873
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,120
It is out, but, you know, but 
that's what they do when you 

874
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,080
have like a group dynamic like 
that, you can force somebody 

875
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,000
out. 
Yeah. 

876
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,920
And it's really, it's it's 
gross. 

877
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,240
It's just, yeah. 
I don't see where she could go 

878
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,880
with them and they would have to
like sit down, but that's what 

879
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,360
the unions for. 
But they would have to sit down 

880
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,000
and actually have a conversation
where not everyone's yelling at 

881
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,560
one another or yelling at her 
and just saying like you're a 

882
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,280
liar. 
Like let's get this out like 1 

883
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,160
by 1. 
These issues you have or these 

884
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,200
instances you want to call her 
out on and she can explain 

885
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:44,320
herself, OfferUp any receipts, 
you know, any proof and just you

886
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,480
know, we can move on. 
You don't want to move on with 

887
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,200
her. 
You know, I was, it was just 

888
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,680
when Emily said you should go, I
was like, like, now she's 

889
00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:00,000
dismissing her, you know, like, 
because normally someone would 

890
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,840
be like, I'm going to go, but 
she's like, you know, you should

891
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,440
go, Katie. 
And it's like the optics aren't 

892
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,320
good here. 
Yeah, I they. 

893
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,600
Really aren't and I'm not trying
to say anything about anyone, 

894
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,880
it's just they're not good. 
Yeah, but you know, at the same 

895
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,640
time, you know, that could be 
the just. 

896
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:21,120
It's just how it is I. 
Understand exactly like it that 

897
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,800
would. 
Do. 

898
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,640
Whether it was, you know, Gina 
or whether it was. 

899
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,600
Right. 
It's just, but it just, it just 

900
00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:30,080
feels like everyone's just like 
trying to bury this person. 

901
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,360
Yeah. 
And I don't think she is evil. 

902
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,120
I was just like, hey, Gretchen, 
I don't think she's evil. 

903
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:37,720
She. 
Prayed. 

904
00:41:37,720 --> 00:41:41,880
Didn't you see that happen? 
Oh my God, seeing Slayed 

905
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,480
freaking smiley Slimy what the 
hell his name is. 

906
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,120
Pray God's going to get you for 
that. 

907
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,640
They have to pray just to make 
it today. 

908
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:58,280
OK, that's right, they pray. 
That's a good call back. 

909
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,960
That or call back so. 
They're. 

910
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,280
So foolish. 
OK, so let's let's break down 

911
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:05,520
the tests. 
All right? 

912
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,560
Katie fails. 
We know. 

913
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,080
Miserably. 
Miserably. 

914
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:13,080
That sucks. 
Gretchen is totally fine. 

915
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,520
That was a surprise. 
I was like. 

916
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:16,760
So again, that's why lie 
detectors are bullshit. 

917
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,520
They're bullshit. 
They're not admissible in court.

918
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:19,960
You're right, as everyone said 
on the. 

919
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Internet and it's easy to beat 
them, it's just by remaining if.

920
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,440
You're a good liar and you can 
be calm. 

921
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:26,520
Or if you believe what you're 
saying. 

922
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,240
Exactly. 
And she clearly. 

923
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:31,680
Believes. 
And also all it takes, not that 

924
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,800
I've ever been through one, but 
I, you know, all it takes I 

925
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:39,040
think to is just to believe the 
lie or to latch on to like a 

926
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:43,960
specific detail of like, like if
the question was, did you go to 

927
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,320
the hospital after? 
You could believe, well, I 

928
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,480
didn't go to the hospital. 
Someone drove me to the 

929
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,560
hospital. 
I didn't take myself there. 

930
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,080
Right. 
So if you think so hard that, 

931
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:59,920
well, I didn't go to the 
hospital, someone took me there,

932
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:02,480
then that's what you're 
concentrating on, then you're 

933
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,720
not lying. 
You wouldn't nothing would 

934
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:06,240
happen. 
You're just kind of focusing on 

935
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:08,320
this detail. 
And we all know the Real 

936
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,560
Housewives of everything hash 
over these. 

937
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:14,440
The exact word that was used. 
Like I didn't say this, I didn't

938
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,320
say that, you know, as you know,
I didn't say fatty photo. 

939
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,480
I said, you know. 
It's semantics. 

940
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,200
You're right, you're right. 
And so I think that's how she 

941
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,800
can justify it even even I think
that's how a lot of liars and 

942
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,440
people who are fast with the 
truth justify it in general. 

943
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,960
Like, well, I didn't say no, I 
didn't go to the hospital. 

944
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,680
I said no, I didn't drive 
myself, you know, or whatever. 

945
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,320
That because again, I fully 
believe she said this to them at

946
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,040
Mastro's. 
So either she lied in the cab 

947
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,000
with Tamra and Shannon or she's 
lying or confessional lying now 

948
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,600
with the women saying she didn't
do it. 

949
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:56,160
So either way, there's a lie 
here and I I don't know either. 

950
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,400
I'm going to maintain, and I 
think you'll agree, Gretchen is 

951
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,960
a lying liar who lies and that 
I'm irritated that Jen is 

952
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,840
allowing it to happen. 
The Jen thing, so she was so 

953
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:14,200
irate, like I, I feel bad and 
I'm like that I trusted her and 

954
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,800
da da da da, and I thought she 
was my friend and you know, like

955
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,080
I don't believe you. 
I don't believe you. 

956
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,640
I feel like you're dropping ship
to a better friend who actually,

957
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,440
no, I shouldn't say that. 
I just think she is aligning 

958
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:34,680
herself with Gretchen because 
she's like, you're my better 

959
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,880
friend. 
I'm going to be cool with you. 

960
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,880
There might be small trade 
motives about, you know, 

961
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,600
placement on the show. 
We both hate Tamara, you know? 

962
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,880
But like, I just don't think 
Jen's being totally truthful or 

963
00:44:47,880 --> 00:44:53,360
it's pretend amnesia. 
I think, yeah. 

964
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:58,000
I mean, I think Jen also, I did 
like her answer about why she 

965
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,280
failed the question about Ryan. 
I think that she might be just a

966
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:07,320
little too meek, which is weird 
because she doesn't seem like a 

967
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,920
meek person. 
Not when it comes to Tamra, no. 

968
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,400
Right. 
But I feel like she's used. 

969
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,680
I don't know. 
I feel like she's just trying. 

970
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,920
She doesn't want to go against 
people. 

971
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,240
Well, she was me, you know, like
we last year with her with her, 

972
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,880
you know, marriage and and not 
really having asserting herself 

973
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,720
for having a lot of power. 
So I I don't. 

974
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,720
I think because everyone's 
against Katie, it's easier for 

975
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:36,000
her to be like, OK, this is the 
right thing to do, right? 

976
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,040
I think that if everyone was 
against Gretchen, then she'd be 

977
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,200
like, OK, I'm against Gretchen. 
I don't think so. 

978
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,480
I feel like she would, would 
follow. 

979
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,000
She would, you know, protect her
friend more. 

980
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,640
I don't know. 
I mean, unless she's like looked

981
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,800
at Gretchen and said we can make
some really awesome tik toks 

982
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,440
later. 
I you know. 

983
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,240
That's the other I got these 
sound effects. 

984
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,040
Well, that's the other 
alternative is which I hate to 

985
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:05,840
think is like, what if they are 
just genuinely racist and 

986
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,120
they're just like, we don't like
this Asian lady. 

987
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,040
Like it's awful to think right? 
But if that's their underlying 

988
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,480
motivation, I will trust 
Gretchen till the cows come home

989
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,160
versus support. 
By we you mean certain Gretchen 

990
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,480
or everybody? 
I mean, I was thinking, I don't.

991
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,240
Think everyone is racist? 
I think when I was saying 

992
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:26,960
earlier the optics are bad, the 
optics are bad. 

993
00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,160
Let's be real, for all these 
white women, yo, sure, coming 

994
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,680
against this one Asian woman, 
right? 

995
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:36,040
The first Asian woman ever ought
to see, right. 

996
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,600
So that's what I'm saying. 
I'm not saying they're doing it 

997
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,960
because she's Asian. 
I'm just saying it looks really 

998
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,040
bad when that's what you're 
doing here. 

999
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,960
Like aside from Mean Girls of it
all, what it is, it's it's it's 

1000
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,960
not a good luck. 
When you said that for all of 

1001
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:55,560
them coming at the first date, I
was thinking of New York with 

1002
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,560
all of them coming at the first 
black woman at Ebony, that was 

1003
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,680
that was painful to take. 
I mean, really, when they're 

1004
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,960
throwing, when they throw a 
woman of color into these 

1005
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,640
groups, it doesn't it, it ends 
up somewhere like this. 

1006
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:16,320
Except Bose, she was fine. 
Well, Anna Marie flocked, so 

1007
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,040
boasted. 
Anna Marie. 

1008
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,360
Anna Marie talked about 
esophaguses, so. 

1009
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,000
Bose could. 
Suppose Bose could just wander 

1010
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:24,960
in. 
Wander. 

1011
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,560
Bose did an amazing job. 
I don't want to discount what 

1012
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,000
she's done, and I don't. 
I like Anna Marie too. 

1013
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:34,320
We liked her until she got real 
Martina like. 

1014
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:35,640
Yeah, that's true. 
Yeah. 

1015
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:36,800
Very true. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1016
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,920
So we are really getting off of 
the weeds. 

1017
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,920
No, no, I like these weeds like 
I think, well. 

1018
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:43,760
I got some weeds in the 
backyard. 

1019
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,080
You could take care. 
Of oh, I do those weeds. 

1020
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,200
You want fair, go to a carnival,
right? 

1021
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:53,040
No, but I mean, it's crazy. 
OK, so the other tests are 

1022
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,440
Shannon was basically truthful 
about everything. 

1023
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,320
Yeah, Yeah. 
And then Tamara. 

1024
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,680
Tamara. 
She like wasn't lying, but like 

1025
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,480
she. 
Wasn't she qualified her answer?

1026
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,240
It was supposed to be yes or no 
and then that one. 

1027
00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:11,760
Was like I don't know if I spoke
to Slade's ex or she spoke to me

1028
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,200
further. 
But she ultimately said yes. 

1029
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,280
Yes, she said, yes. 
I I had communication with 

1030
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:20,120
Slade's wife. 
Right, who we know is basically 

1031
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,360
is said and it's not from 
Tamara, it's Slade's ex that 

1032
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:27,600
Slade was a deadbeat dad. 
Yeah, period. 

1033
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,040
That was period question with 
the Tamara didn't make this up. 

1034
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:36,400
OK, yeah, whatever. 
And then the autism thing, which

1035
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,200
again, she should have said yes 
or no. 

1036
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,880
No one said I was on the 
spectrum. 

1037
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,920
I left with that. 
My doctor said it could be there

1038
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,760
are symptoms that lead to a 
possibility, but she didn't say 

1039
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:47,960
straight up you're on the 
spectrum. 

1040
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:49,960
So she should have done better 
with that answer. 

1041
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,160
Yeah, she definitely should. 
But like, obviously the focus is

1042
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:53,320
on on Tamara. 
They're going straight for 

1043
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,040
Katie, done with Tamra, and then
Emily's was like. 

1044
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,440
Although people are going to 
latch on to that and won't. 

1045
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,640
Oh my God, people like latch on 
to like hating Tamra, like they 

1046
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:03,120
like a baby latches onto a 
nipple. 

1047
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,040
I swear to God, and now I'm 
Phaedra. 

1048
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,120
I just gone onto a nipple. 
We're. 

1049
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,360
Mixing franchises like crazy. 
Tonight, there was Heather's 

1050
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,560
Would she rather be a Real 
Housewives of Beverly? 

1051
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:18,520
I love that she actually said 
yes. 

1052
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,720
Yeah. 
She's like the commute guys. 

1053
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,880
No, you split the hand with Kyle
and Dorit and and Bose. 

1054
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,960
We get it. 
They should give her like a walk

1055
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:29,880
on a couple episodes. 
Like have her be a friend. 

1056
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,120
Like mess with people that. 
Would be awesome if she was an 

1057
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,000
an orange holder and a friend of
over on Beverly Hills. 

1058
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:37,360
That'd be really nice. 
Cynthia would be like, wait a 

1059
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,680
second. 
She's like, I made the wrong 

1060
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:44,280
negotiations. 
So and then the the paparazzi 

1061
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,880
thing, which everyone ignored 
that because they're so focused 

1062
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,840
on Katie, she did call the 
paparazzi. 

1063
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,320
Oh, they said she failed. 
Yeah, paparazzi. 

1064
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,480
Yeah, yes, obviously. 
I like Jen's answer. 

1065
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,480
For once, Jen said something 
like that made sense. 

1066
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,520
Yeah, just say I want to be 
like, yeah, I'm freaking Heather

1067
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,400
Dubrow. 
I call paparazzi. 

1068
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,200
They come running right? 
Like, oh, Matt. 

1069
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,840
Whatever, Gina. 
'S was BS right? 

1070
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,320
What was Gina's? 
About Travis's balls. 

1071
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,560
Oh no. 
She used Heather for Oh yeah 

1072
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,840
contacts. 
I didn't like how kumbaya the 

1073
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,280
two were. 
Oh, I wouldn't have believed it 

1074
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,320
even if you. 
Yeah, I was like. 

1075
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,400
Someone was like, but you asked 
the question. 

1076
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,360
Yeah, right. 
Yeah, that was funny. 

1077
00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:23,560
Well, yeah, of course. 
I asked. 

1078
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:28,760
Yes. 
And then Emily's just like, do 

1079
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,040
you think you're a better lawyer
than Shane? 

1080
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,680
And she's like, yeah. 
That's dumb. 

1081
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,720
And then something else. 
Oh, did you? 

1082
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,040
Oh talk did? 
Someone asked. 

1083
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,640
Oh. 
Did you talk shit about Heather 

1084
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,560
in front of your kids? 
No Katie in front of your kid. 

1085
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,120
No. 
Did you talk about shit about? 

1086
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:45,840
Front of your. 
Kids. 

1087
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,920
Because Katie's just the one 
that repeated it, right? 

1088
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,280
OK, finished up. 
No favors. 

1089
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:54,840
But yeah, then it gets down to 
Katie and she's lying out of her

1090
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,960
lies and. 
You need to leave. 

1091
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,920
That was ridiculous. 
That was really so awkward. 

1092
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:04,480
And then she's outside, you 
know, breaking down with the 

1093
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,440
producer. 
Yeah, I just don't like the 

1094
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,120
pylon of it all. 
And also just, I don't know, 

1095
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:14,320
it's still produced television, 
might be reality, but like they 

1096
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:18,280
could have made that polygrapher
say whatever they wanted, be 

1097
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:21,600
like, hey, whatever, just let's 
you know, it's her first time on

1098
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,560
a reality. 
Well, now we know that she did 

1099
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:26,800
say it was about Katie, that, 
you know, she's so full of shit,

1100
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,880
like, Oh yeah, because she 
failed everything. 

1101
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,360
So Katie needs a friend and I 
think the only one that it could

1102
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:36,600
be would be Tamara. 
So. 

1103
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,480
And that's if she reveals the 
Gretchen thing. 

1104
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,080
And she will. 
I mean, she's going to. 

1105
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,760
She has to. 
Yeah, and hopefully in the Part 

1106
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,760
2 that's what happens. 
Is she? 

1107
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,280
I can see it now actually. 
Katie's out. 

1108
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,720
It's really shitty that Tamara 
didn't say it sooner, right? 

1109
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:57,240
But that's also why I do think 
that maybe it's it's not a 

1110
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:01,400
concentrated effort, but like, 
we don't like it is a pylon for 

1111
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,040
Katie because like, OK, Tamer 
can be like, OK, I don't have to

1112
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,560
worry about this now. 
Now I'm going to go ahead and 

1113
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,840
bring up, well, Gretchen, how 
come in the back of the, you 

1114
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:13,160
know, Van, you said you did go 
to the hospital and Shannon 

1115
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,280
would be like, Oh, yeah, you 
did. 

1116
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:16,160
I would hope Shannon would say 
that. 

1117
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,720
So just don't say it in your 
confessional. 

1118
00:52:17,720 --> 00:52:23,400
Say it in the moment, right? 
You know, the other thing with 

1119
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,760
Gina and Emily, they were 
practically like, yeah, we're 

1120
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:28,600
going to get her. 
You know, like when. 

1121
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:33,120
Yeah, Gina said the Gretchen, we
have a plan like, yeah, this is 

1122
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,080
not, you know, I. 
Love it when you're a little 

1123
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:37,240
Gretchen, your little Gina voice
comes out. 

1124
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:40,280
Yeah, I'm a plan. 
I sold this. 

1125
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:46,480
I spoke about the meatball. 
Oh God, Which I forget whose 

1126
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,880
dog's name is Meatball on this 
earth happens. 

1127
00:52:49,240 --> 00:52:51,160
For a minute I was like, is that
Tamra's dog? 

1128
00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:55,960
No, Tamra's is Oh. 
Yeah, it's like I want to say 

1129
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,120
buddy or something. 
Or bully no. 

1130
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:00,520
No, that's our friends old dog, 
right? 

1131
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,240
But yeah, I can't remember. 
Right, I got this on Instagram. 

1132
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:05,600
Do you follow it? 
I do not. 

1133
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,520
I'm surprised you follow every 
other damn thing in the world. 

1134
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,320
No, there's a leap from Tamaras 
dog to Cheesecake Factory, my 

1135
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,960
friend. 
Okay, and I can't argue your 

1136
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,160
Cheesecake Factory following has
gotten us reservations. 

1137
00:53:18,160 --> 00:53:21,960
Yes, by the way, we still need 
to have my your birthday. 

1138
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,600
We haven't until the 5th. 
After we go buy a car on Monday.

1139
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:28,520
We're not going to buy a car on 
Monday. 

1140
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,440
What makes you think we're not 
going to buy a car on Monday? 

1141
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:34,120
That's a big purchase, okay. 
Well, we need one check engine 

1142
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,560
light. 
I mean, I don't know that the 

1143
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,600
check engine light just came on.
Of course, when I'm trading in 

1144
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,400
the car, it's not there. 
I don't know you're talking. 

1145
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,040
Oh my God, we're not buying a 
car on Labor Day. 

1146
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:44,120
I think we are buying a car on 
Labor Day. 

1147
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,240
We need we that. 
Scares. 

1148
00:53:46,240 --> 00:53:48,120
Me, we need to go look at a new 
car. 

1149
00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,600
This will. 
We need to look at a new car, 

1150
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:52,160
yes. 
Either we get the low end that 

1151
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,520
we can totally afford or we go 
ahead and we splurge and we get 

1152
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,880
the highest end because they're 
having some great sales in the 

1153
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:02,800
2025 models and we could also 
get it at 0% interest, which 

1154
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:06,520
would be fantastic. 
I just, you know, it's a big 

1155
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,400
purchase and we're saving money 
for other things. 

1156
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,840
Agreed. 
And it just makes me nervous of 

1157
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,120
like spending money in that 
direction. 

1158
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,400
Greed. 
And also it's even though our 

1159
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,600
cars giving us troubles, it's 
our first car that we bought 

1160
00:54:20,600 --> 00:54:22,840
together. 
It's hard to like, let it go. 

1161
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:24,760
I mean, I don't mean to roll my 
eyes. 

1162
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,520
That's your reason to not buy a 
new. 

1163
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,960
Well, and it's, you know, I want
to like give another try, but 

1164
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,160
then it like keeps literally 
failing us. 

1165
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,240
We're not failing. 
It's not failing. 

1166
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:34,160
It's. 
Been fine it's just the the the 

1167
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:36,920
the check engine light. 
It keeps coming up with this 

1168
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:40,920
stupid like catalytic converter 
cooler system doesn't work, 

1169
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,800
which is just dumb because it 
doesn't need to happen like 

1170
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,160
everyone on the line says you 
can just have that disconnected 

1171
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:47,280
and it won't happen again. 
But. 

1172
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,600
Regardless, we lost the 
audience, so we're not sorry. 

1173
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,040
We're going to look at a car and
we'll we'll see. 

1174
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,000
We will see. 
I think we lost the audience 

1175
00:54:56,000 --> 00:55:02,440
like 45 minutes ago. 
This was like a wild episode. 

1176
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,160
It has been all. 
Over the place, yeah. 

1177
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:09,720
But we have covered everybody, 
that's for sure, numerous times.

1178
00:55:09,720 --> 00:55:12,160
I really hope we see Katie again
before the reunion. 

1179
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:16,800
I, I'm worried we won't. 
I'm, I, I don't need to see her 

1180
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,280
just have hanging out with 
abandon. 

1181
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:19,880
I don't need that. 
And and Matt. 

1182
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,400
Matt, I need her to be involved 
with the women. 

1183
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,320
Someone's gonna have to talk to 
her like. 

1184
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:27,240
Can Gina go get tea with her? 
Gina wants something to do with 

1185
00:55:27,240 --> 00:55:28,680
her. 
Emily wants something to do with

1186
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,120
her, Shannon said. 
Gretchen is like, you're the 

1187
00:55:31,240 --> 00:55:33,160
worst person ever. 
I can't ever trusted you. 

1188
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,920
Jen's abandoned her. 
So, Tamara, you're right. 

1189
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:40,480
There's, like I told you, like 
from the get go. 

1190
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:44,520
So it's Tamara's the only one 
who would be the one to be like,

1191
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,480
OK, let's sit down and actually 
talk about something. 

1192
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:48,640
And that's when like, Katie will
probably throw something out 

1193
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,200
there that's crazy and Tamara 
will take it back to the group 

1194
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,000
and. 
Yeah. 

1195
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:58,000
Yeah, All right. 
Well, sorry Katie, we tried. 

1196
00:55:58,240 --> 00:56:00,440
Yeah, but we don't know. 
We don't know what's going to 

1197
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,000
happen. 
We haven't seen the mid season 

1198
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,160
trailer yet. 
True. 

1199
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:09,240
You know, I just hope it's more 
drama spread out and not focus 

1200
00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,680
on one person. 
I feel like after next week's 

1201
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:14,360
episode we'll get the mid season
trailer because next week will 

1202
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,680
be episode 8. 
This week this is 8. 

1203
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,800
I thought it was 7. 7 was last 
week. 

1204
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,560
You're right, this is 8, so 
yeah. 

1205
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:23,880
Yeah. 
I mean, because then it's will 

1206
00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,560
be the trip and the yeah. 
The trip, so yeah, after next 

1207
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:27,840
week up. 
So I think we'll get yeah, the 

1208
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:29,600
mid season because we're mid 
season. 

1209
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,680
Okay, okay. 
Well, OC, I guess they're 

1210
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:33,960
delivering. 
They are. 

1211
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,440
They are delivering, but again, 
this episode was a little 

1212
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:39,440
disappointing, I think, because 
it was predictable as to what 

1213
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,160
would have happened. 
Like what happened? 

1214
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,320
What do you think happens? 
Happens, You know, right? 

1215
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,000
They're like Katie's a big liar 
and they don't address the 

1216
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,280
Gretchen line. 
Yes, which I need. 

1217
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,240
I guess that's keeping me tuned 
in for next week. 

1218
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:51,520
Yes. 
So till next. 

1219
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,400
Time till next time.
