Welcome to another episode of Husbands Watching Housewives.
I'm Scott. And I'm Jeff.
And we just watched a lot of Bravo liberties at Bravo com.
I was like, we just watched. Oh yeah, yes.
We didn't just watch anything, we spent the all day long.
And we did a whole 9 to 5, like doors open at 9:00.
We left a little bit after 530. Yeah, so it's been a day.
It's been a day and a half, almost.
To quote Marlowe today, drained. Exactly.
But in a good way. Yeah.
Yeah, it was. A really good day.
I am regretting bringing only one pair of shoes.
You should have smacked me when I said I'm only bringing one
pair. Try my shoes after we're done
with this I should and see like if they will fit you.
'Cause I got little blisters forming.
Oh my pinky toes. I have band aids, have a lot of
band aids. Why do you have a lot of band?
AIDS because there were shoes I was going to wear wing on Sunday
that might hurt the back of my heels.
Well, I'm going to just probably wrap them around my pinky toe
and I'll be, I'll be fine. But yeah, I am exhausted.
Like today. It's a it's a lot.
It's a lot, but it was a lot of fun.
I mean, not to be, you know, not to downplay it.
A lot of fun. It was so much fun.
Yeah, like again, I yesterday I was like, I'm so anxious and I'm
like, I was like anxious about this is like, you know, super
fun. Like once you get into it,
you're like, oh, I'm in it. And then you like walk up and
you're like everyone's here and everyone being like there's so
many fans and like the lines are so long.
Not for VIP. That's the one thing about VIP.
It's like you're like. Yeah, let's talk about that.
Do you think VIP so far is worth the difference between GA?
From 2023, you know, it depends. I mean, the benefits are getting
into places sooner, getting closer sometimes, right?
The old times with the Beverly Hills panel, you know you have
to get there super early if you want like super close up seats.
But we're still closer than we would.
Those are than GY for sure, for sure.
And then there's the lounge, which we'll get to in more
detail later, but just, you know, nice.
Yeah, but. Also, there's quicker.
I mean, I think we got to the photo OPS earlier so we didn't
have to really wait in line, but it seemed like you could get to
the front of the photo OPS sooner because you're VIP and
all. That, yeah.
So it is like a fast pass like like Disneyland situation, but I
don't know. I feel like some of the people
we talked to today. So one of the things that I
really enjoy about Bravo Con is that you're really there with
your people and there's really few people you could start a
conversation with and have them look at you funny.
They'd just be like, yeah, cool, let's talk about it.
Like they want to know what, what do you like?
What shows do you watch? So when you're waiting in line
for stuff, that really is kind of the fun thing.
And when we finished eating lunch, you know, we sat down at
a table with people already sitting at it.
It felt I was telling Jeff. It reminded me of like kind of a
cruise where you, you know, you're on, you're on a ship with
people and you're like, well, we might as well get to know each
other so. We're Speaking of boats like
from day moment one, we walk in and we meet the Above Deck
podcast. Oh yeah, so while we were
waiting in line, we, you know, banter with people and
everything and yeah, we met the Above Deck podcast, which we
don't watch Below Deck, so, you know, we're not seeking that
out, but they're so nice and just, you know, striking
conversation. They liked shirts we were
wearing 'cause we were wearing our very friends shirts.
They're. Like 2 friends who like do their
podcast from like as ones in Ohio.
I think it. Was in Philadelphia, maybe I
forget, but either way, it was just so nice just to like, you
know, meet people naturally and talk about stuff.
And so they were wonderful and they put it, they put us in
their stories. Thanks guys, appreciate it.
Then I had to figure out how to post a story because I've really
done it before. I've done it like only a couple
times and it's so I know. I know some people only look at
stories and I'm like I am more of a static poster.
I am too, yeah. I don't want to like have our
memory or our memories from this trip go away like I want them.
So we might have to put a bit together.
A big actual Instagram post, right?
But to quote Sutton from the Beverly Hills panel, y'all know
I don't know how the the Instagram works.
Yes, I think she blocked me. Yeah, I'm.
Not sure, unfriended me. Sutton on Garcelle, well, she
unfriended me and she blocked me.
And then everyone turns in like, wait, she blocked you?
Well, I mean, is that what how it does, how it happens?
Yeah. She was really like, someone
teach me the Instagram didn't make laugh.
But no, I got a feeling some of the people we talked to today
when I was, you know, we were just sitting down with them,
they were also VIP. Like for us, it was a really big
deal to go VIP because it's, it's, it's an investment.
Like it's more money. Like you're already GA, you're
already spending a lot of money, like more than you're
comfortable, especially for all three days.
And so for us to have done it, we just had to know that we're
probably not going to do it again in, you know, 2020 and
when they probably have another one of these.
So this is our chance for a while, you know, So I got the
feeling with some of those people that they're just like,
whatever this money, that's nothing to us.
So we just drop this money and. We're like, oh, it must be nice.
Yeah. We like kind of like we hammered
how I really think about it and like, you know, for those
reasons that you just said, like, you know, that's why we're
doing it. But it's if we were to do in
2027, it would probably be GA and I don't think we'd do all
three. Days, I don't think all three
days, yeah. We like shoot for like 1 day to
do everything and beat the people, have the photo OPS that
we want to have and just yeah. Because honestly, like today, I
feel like I got enough. I got enough Bravo to be like,
that was nice, right? I mean, tomorrow's just to be
more of the same. It will also be nice.
It'll also be fun, but. You know, there's a lot of
interactive stuff that you can do, you know, you can see like
all like there's old reunion dresses and just like, you know,
the Bunny of course is there and like little pieces of history.
And then you go to like the Wayfair houses and it's like
this is Shamia's house, Melissa's house, and they're
gay's house. And then like, you know, Shamia
was there actually. And so and then it's like you
can do it like your own, like you're in a confessional.
You can do, you know, like a little, you know, like an
opening scene. So it's really cool to, like be
in this, this housewife, you know, situations.
Yeah, Yeah. But I don't know if we're going
to do them tomorrow because we already did like most of them
today. Well.
Yeah, and if we don't go in early, then there might be lines
and everything again. But no, I mean it's definitely
fun. The traders thing, yeah, yeah,
we. Have some good photos, we'll
definitely have to put those up. But no, the first thing when we
got inside, we went through. They do have like, a lot of the
Housewives reunion looks set up on mannequins throughout.
I mean, it's kind of neat because you get to see them and
some of them I was really impressed, like even in person,
like, oh, that's a really pretty dress.
But yeah, some of them I was like, oh, that, that's what that
looks like. Yeah, because they're not all
designers. Some of them are like just made
by someone locally. Not that like to downplay that,
you know, support local businesses, but it's like
they're not all like, you know, Armani or, you know, like these
big designers. So, but it's kind of like, OK,
that's interesting. But the same way when you see
like when they release the photos of all the ladies for the
reunion in their reunion looks you're like, Oh, well, that
probably looks better on on, you know, when it's moving or it
looks better on camera than it does in a photo, You know, in a
photo, like I'd want to see it. I felt like the other way
around. Some of these things they look,
I was like, oh, wow, that looks way better on camera than it
does in person. As in person you're like, oh,
that's just really some sort of fabric sewn to other fabric.
Some of it looked kind of cheap, but then you're like, oh, but I
remember seeing that on people. Like I hate saying this, that
dress that. I think it was Bose's dress that
we saw in her little Wayfair room.
I was like, oh, that looks kind of cheap in person.
I don't. Think it looks I think.
It's more construction of it in person better than you can on
TV. And so I was like, oh wow, on TV
that looked absolutely amazing. And in real life, I'd be like, I
would never guess that that would be a.
Dress well, annoying brothers. That probably wasn't very cheap,
no? Who agreed?
Like this is me throwing hella shade.
And why am I saying hella far? From the Bay Area.
Yeah the stress that looked cheap was freaking Gretchens in
person and whoever put Gretchens dress next to Kyles reading
dress should be fired. No, no, not fired, not fired.
Reprimanded heavily. Yeah, have a talking to.
Like just, I had like, I, I'd been asked like crop that
picture because I only invited Kyles, but they're still close
together and there's like. Yeah, I'd say that's an example
though as well. Like I honestly feel that
Gretchen that dress on Gretchen from this last the current
reunion looked better on Gretchen than it did in person.
They. Looked really like greenish.
Was she? Was she going for a wicked
thing? She probably would.
God. Probably.
And then on top of that, like I think that's another example,
like the boning and everything on TV it looks a little
luxurious and everything, but in real life you're like, oh,
that's just cheap. You know, I don't want to cheap
isn't the right word, but it just looks like run-of-the-mill.
It just looks more like, oh, that's a dress, right?
You know, you can say cheap with Gretchen, they don't have a lot
of money. But that's, I don't, you know, I
don't want to insult the designer.
I'm not trying to. Again, I'm not trying to say
like it. They chose to work with her.
Stop it. But anyway, that was a really
interesting fun thing. And then they we, we got to take
a picture with the wax museum Andy.
That, that, that was creepy. We have to post that because
it's like you come around the corner, you're like, oh, it's
Andy. That's Andy.
They should have had because they have him sitting in his
little chair and they had only one other chair.
They should have had two chairs set up so we could have fought
over who was first chair, right? And it would have been you,
honey. You're always first chair in my
life. You're the first chair my
clubhouse. Oh God.
So I'm sure someone had a wedding where they've said that
before. Oh my God.
Bravo holic wedding. Yeah, I'm surprised there isn't
a wedding going like that. That's the next step of Bravo
Khan is someone has their wedding there.
Or someone's going to like, like, some guy's going to
propose to his girlfriend there and everyone's going to lose
their shit. And it's going to be like at the
photo op. Can you imagine?
Like, I'm sorry, sorry, Kyle, before we do this photo op and
he takes the ring out and like, the room would just, like, lose
their shit collectively. Like, yeah, someone should do
that. Yeah, like take your your
girlfriend to the her happy place and then propose to her
and right or your boyfriend, right.
Right, your girlfriend's girlfriend there, right in front
of their. Favorite Bravo celebrity?
Yes, that'd. Be awesome so.
Senior Bravo celebrities. Oh, Speaking of our first photo
op, Oh yes, wasn't I know we talked about other on TikTok,
but it was really just such a one.
So you're in the room. Let's set the stage.
I think you know, for people who aren't there, you know, it's
like you're in this very nicely air conditioned room.
Thank God. It's a giant tent, like a giant
wedding tent, like an, like an old Native American gaming
casino tent. That's really what it is.
It's, I mean, I felt like I was at a, a gaming casino from like
1998, so. I never sprained though it's.
Gigantic, but it's well air conditioned.
Air condition because it's very humid today, it will probably be
even worse tomorrow with. Rain, yeah.
But there's like, separate stages set up.
And it's just so funny that whoever made the choice, again,
who made these choices, I don't know.
But you have Tamara and Katie in one stage, and then boop, boop,
boop 2 down is Camille and Gretchen, which, by the way,
that combo, God help you. Yeah, sure.
Yeah. We met some lovely, lovely
couple who were like, yeah. Or it's, you know, it's Gretchen
and Camille. That's our photo op.
And we're like, Oh yeah, we were.
We were trying to be like, oh, oh, OK, that's a choice.
But. And then he said, I know people,
people don't like Gretchen right now.
She's not too popular. We're like, yeah.
But it made it clear that he was really doing it for the Camille.
Yes, because he said if you wanted to get the Camille Denise
photo op, which is tomorrow, which I'm sure would, I would,
you know, that's a good. One it makes it I I I could
forgive him that because I was like, oh, he's just like an old
school Beverly Hills fan and he wants the Camille and you know,
he just. Feels.
Trust me, I used to love Camille.
It used to be my favorite. I who?
Are you? Let's get a divorce.
We've had this one when I favored Camille over Kyle.
It was early days. I didn't know why it was you.
Were young then. We all make foolish mistakes.
It was 20. It's 2009 and they're 2010.
Were you 20 then? Were you in your 20s then?
No. 2010. Oh, 15 years ago?
Yeah, you were. You were 31.
Yeah, I'm like, how old am I? So.
Anyway, oh so yeah, so our fruit, our foot op again, I know
we went over this and our TikTok.
It was such an interesting, it was a crazy fun moment to
literally like, you know, dude, we're walking and he goes to
greet Tamara and I'm Katie and she just turned to me and
instantly just said, I knew you from TikTok and I was just like,
what? What?
Ma'am, yes, I am on the TikTok and you know, then she gestured
to Matt, her husband. He was like around the corner
and you know, Matt, it's from TikTok and he's like, you know,
thank you so much for what you do And I was like, thank you for
what you do. And I was like, you were great
last night on the on the show, you know, and they were just
really lovely and just so nice. But like for like, take my hands
and her hands. I was like, can you Chanel, are
we having a moment? It reminded him I Chanel Ayan
moment pro 2023, which is like like this look in your eyes,
like I see you shaking your hands and we're having a moment
and I was like, I'm going in with a Katie Janella.
It's. Just really bizarre because like
it was like, you know, you have these meet and greets and you
just, you know, like Tamra was very much like, oh, thanks guys.
You know, and you know, nothing against it, but Katie actually
like recognized us from TikTok, from videos that we've posted,
you know, of the podcast and supporting them.
And we had just put out one yesterday.
Maybe that's the one she saw most recently.
Yeah. But it was pretty damn awesome
just running into people who know who we are is just like,
OK. And there's again, we're not,
we're we're we're not nobody, but we're not anybody.
Yeah. So for sure, yeah, for sure.
So that was definitely a nice start to the day having, you
know, Katie know who we are and, you know, that sort of thing.
And just just, I don't know. Yeah, I can.
I can see the thrill that people have.
Oh for sure, like totally made the day.
You know, I think we just from then on we so we went to the
lounge quite a bit. So, yeah, the VIP lounge is
something that everyone tells, says, and I don't know that it's
untrue, but they're saying, oh, if you don't get your photo op,
don't worry, It's a lot of the Bravo liberties will be in the
VIP lounge. And what I like about the VIP
lounge is, you know, there's a lot of.
Lot of space, a lot of. Space a lot of bars with not a
lot of lines. It's not busy.
It's quiet and it is very loungy, so it's kind of dim in
there. Very dead in.
There and it's chill ish compared to the rest of Bravo
Con. And as a 48 year old, I'm like,
I could go for a nice quiet room where we can just sit and chill
and not have to like what's going on, what's going on.
And there were some people in there taking photos like Zach
was in there. We got our picture with not
Riley with Ariana. Which is good, because we had to
miss that photo op, right? Because it coincided with the
Beverly Hills panel. Right.
Ariana from Jen NYC? Yes.
Not apparently Ariana from Vanderpump Rolls.
Ariana Arias. See, that's how much I don't
know. If you keep insisting, I know,
but I don't know. Everyone knows because of
scandal. We all know scandal.
I don't. I mean, I know of it.
I just wouldn't. I didn't know who the players
were. Yeah, well, she also looks a
little bit different because she she dark hair, by the way.
She went very dark and then Teresa went very light.
Teresa's very, very blonde, which she's done before.
And I'm I don't care for it. It's all right.
I mean, it's definitely not what I think of when I think of
Teresa. No, it's like you think of dark
hair and like that's been her thing because I'm like, why are
you going so blonde? It's a whole new her because
she's making up with Melissa and Joe.
Hell is frozen over. Oh, it's truly frozen over.
Truly one thing. Also like, and I think I
remember this about last time we were here.
You forget how tiny the housewives are.
Like a lot of the, a lot of the women are just small people.
And, you know, that's the sort of thing like TV loves, I think,
you know, exaggerated features and I think small people with
big heads sometimes because it just films better.
I guess that's the rumor in here anyway.
But it is truly like Larsa. Like you think of.
Oh, yeah, we saw Larsa a little bit in the corner of one of the
activities she was doing. And, you know, she's taking
photos of people. But like, you especially, I
think this is also because Larsa is like, known for having this
voluptuous, curvy body. And then you see her in person
and she's like all of what, 5-2 if we're lucky, you know, And
then on top of that, like she's not like proportionate.
She's proportionately small to the rest to her height.
So it's not like she's 5/2 with this giant, you know, curvy ass.
She's 5/2 with a curvy ass for a woman who's 52.
You know, it just was really, it's really interesting.
But there's so many people that like you were saying with Jia
from. Jia is like minute right?
Like Jiju dice is like so tiny and she was standing next to
Emmer. Oh, what's her face from NYC?
Yes. The tall model, yes.
I can never remember her name. Yes, but.
She's so pretty in person, but like literally like Gia barely
got to her shoulder. She didn't even get to her
shoulder. My difference was alarming.
But then Jeff was saying that Gia Judice is more she's.
Better. Yes, very much so.
Yeah, and I think that's kind of a rare thing to say about a lot
of people, you know, is that you like you, they're on TV and
they're larger than life and like they're done up and just to
I'm not that they're not been up here, but to see them in person,
you're like, wow. It is.
It was funny, yes. And like, yeah, like Katie was
stunning. Tam was very pretty.
I was like Teddy, who looked great.
It was so nice to to see her there and like to see her get
such a warm welcome because that would not have happened two
years ago, right? So let me let it just be sad.
I loved Teddy before. Yeah.
Let's begin with. So let's talk about the panels
we went to. We went to the Potomac panel.
That was the first. That was the best one of the
day. That was really good for sure.
That was good. So the first year we went, a lot
of the questions that like would get asked by the I don't know,
I'm jumping, but no, I was going to say it by the audience.
We're always like these really generic housewives questions of
like if you were stranded on a desert island and you can only
bring 1 housewife with you, who would you bring?
And I think that of the panels we attended today, the questions
were a lot better. Some of.
Them. Some of them were absolute shit
just for the spite behind them. We'll get to that.
Definitely better questions from.
The audience, what's the Potomac one?
That first one was the first or second one.
But like literally the person asked, you know, about, you
know, can you speak to the experience of being, you know,
basically black woman on Bravo and being housewives and in this
very white housewives world? And I think both Giselle and
Wendy answered it and they were gave very intelligent responses.
And, you know, Giselle said, like, I'm not trying to knock
the network. They definitely support us, but
we are very aware that we are, you know, black women on this
network. And so I don't think there's
necessarily a favorite to somebody that's like, you know,
just in terms of like you were saying before of like what
they're marketing towards and like who they're marketing for.
It's just it just seems that like the black women, the black
franchises don't get the same amount of, you know, respect put
on their name as the others, you know, and they they made sure to
like mention, you know, Atlanta coming before them and Wendy
mentioned, you know, married to medicine, you know, so people
like these franchises kind of just get like locked and is
like, oh, the black girls. But it's like they bring in a
lot of audience. People were really excited to
like see the Potomac women, you know, and sometimes you know,
that's not them. They're like, they have a lot of
great seasons and they might have been like lost their way a
couple of seasons of recent seasons, you know, but like it's
they're strong cast part of their way back.
And it was also a very lively panel and even when they were
shading each other, which was definitely add definitely.
Often. Yes, and it felt very like and
people being shut down. I loved Wendy shutting down
actually. Like Nope, you talk shit about
me at my lowest and I'm not going to just.
Talk to you backstage because I don't want to Right, right.
And for Ashley to be like, OK, that's fine.
It's like yeah, Ashley, you basically are like joyous about
her going sorry, Joy full about her going to prison.
Yeah. And since going to the pin.
That was one of the questions someone asked is was.
Basically glad someone asked. Yeah, someone asked.
You know, Wendy, how do you feel about or Ashley?
Like, Ashley, do you feel bad for having saying what you said?
Yeah, something good? It was because, you know, when
Wendy's, you know, legal issues were announced, Ashley kind of
gloated about it in one of her live performances.
Like we always knew about this like.
So Ashley did apologize publicly on stage, but Wendy, Wendy was
well. It was funny that like Stacey
and Wendy Boopes or I think mainly Stacey was saying she's
right here because Ashley was apologizing to the audience, not
turning to her right to apologize to Wendy, which is
that's why you can't really with Ashley.
It was. Wild.
I mean, I do think I do. I do love Wendy.
I don't want to like. It was surprising.
Sorry to cut you off. No, you're good.
Surprising to see her there. Like I knew she was on the
schedule because she went off for a bit and she came back and
I was like, I am very surprised she's at this panel because as
Zuri, the moderator was saying, a lot of people would have been
like, I'm going to just bow out and stay home until this all
plays out. So for her, I think it's
probably a conscious effort and you know, that work.
I seem to be really behind her. Andy supports her.
So she definitely was like, I'm going to go there with my and
she said, you know, Chen high and these are allegations and I
can't speak to them. And I think maybe you well,
maybe it's also too like you look more guilty if you hideaway
right, right. So that's probably that was
another thought. So it was just, and she wasn't
supposed to do any photo OPS, just that panel.
So it was, I think it was really good for her and smart for her
to like to do it. At the same time, I don't
necessarily like the, you know, I well, I like, I I think the
support and people supporting her through this hard time is
good. I think at the same time,
though, it's a little cagey to just everyone being so like
Wendy's great, Wendy's wonderful and not kind of well, because I
understand, I understand you can't go ahead.
You know, it is innocent till proven guilty.
And so it's hard like from APR perspective to to be like, you
know, well, chances are she is involved in something and this
didn't just come out of thin air.
So I get it. It's just a difficult line to
walk for sure. And so it's a little bit weird
for everyone to be like. But it wasn't everyone.
I noticed the response wasn't as loud and like boisterous that
she was like, of course you are not guilty.
We love you Wendy. It wasn't the same.
I'm not trying to compare the situations, but Shannon came to
the Bravo con right after Purge 3 Y and everyone was like
tripping over themselves to support her and cheer for her.
But I think it also speaks to how much people might like her
versus Wendy. Right, right.
You know, as we've talked to people who would think that we
would, would love Wendy and they're just like, I don't like
her. And she's like up her own ass
and she's always been snotty and did it on and I'm like, oh,
that's surprising. So the audience reaction, it
wasn't like yes, like it wasn't that strong as.
Because I think it was also like what I'm I'm coming with is
like, like, yeah, good for. OK.
It's just like, are you not reading the same news?
We're reading like that's. Well, I mean, she's right, you
know, if we're going to play devil's advocate, they are just
allegations and nothing has been proven.
There hasn't been a a trial, you know, they've been charged.
But like anyone could be charged.
So she's not going to jail tomorrow and she hasn't admitted
guilt, neither she nor Eddie. So it's just, you know.
No, I agree. I agree.
Yeah, that was just that was like, oh, OK, we tried to rush
the stage to get pictures. It was.
We got some. We got some.
I got the. I got to tell Angel I'm, I'm
she's, I think Angel is my favorite of the season.
So. Oh, really?
Yeah. And I got to tell her like, you
know, because she just seems to be the most real and kind of
like, this is who I am. And I like in, you know, I'll be
disappointed if I find out that's not who she is.
And she really is just putting on a persona.
But I feel like she's really just trying to be herself and
the other men are just like. That's not good enough, Yeah.
It's not good enough. There was a lot of friction
between her and Ashley. Oh yeah.
So I'm sure, I guess we'll see play out in the season just to
see how they how they get to here.
Yeah they show Gave a sneak peek at the mid season trailer.
Oh, that was so good. Yeah, so good.
I was like, it's all just going down in that lake.
And they talked about the glass group trip, which is like as
when he said catastrophic. So like yes.
Very good. Yes, really good word to that.
I was going to say ta da da. I can't remember.
It's all right. Something that Stacy took
picture. Oh, everyone was so happy that
Monique was back. Oh yeah.
Like she got the loudest cheers. She did.
They were just like, Oh my God, when he's back, like they just,
they're just so excited. And yeah.
Yeah. No, it was good.
And then I, Monique was also, she had a lot of good things to
say because she was, you know, kind of, you know, talking about
how she in the time since she left and came back, like the
show has changed a lot and she thought she'd just kind of fall
right back in. But she's like, oh whoa, even
for me, this is not the same thing.
Right. This is not like how we used to
do it when I did it, you know? So she was like a little caught
off guard by that. It was nice to hear.
It was nice to hear someone say like the show you're watching
now has changed in so many ways that like, it's unrecognized to
me. Right, which is like bound to
happen. And it was also nice to hear her
say like, no, like, I'm still focusing on my kids and like,
I'm not all yeah, I'm not all about.
This like was sometimes I think there was a great Monterey where
some questions were kind of like, I don't know, why are you
focusing on that? Like when she asked Monique, are
we going to see you dating? And it's like, no, I'm not one,
I'm a friend of two. I'm not there.
I'm just we're focusing on focusing on Co parenting with my
ex with these three kids we have right 3/2. 333.
And then when she asked, when Zuri asked Stacey about TJ, I'm
like, that is so last season. That's so last reunion.
Like why are you trying to like Stacey's not going to be like,
well, yes, let me pull out the contracts or.
Anything. Enough time's passed here.
Here you go. Here's all.
Right, here's the dirt. I paid him X amount of money.
No, like she was like, I can't speak to what TJ is thinking or
whatever, 'cause he's not, I'm not him, right?
Right. So.
And somebody honestly asked why and I'm like, first of all, we
don't need honest interaction. Thank you SO.
So yes, love the Potomac panel. The Beverly Hills panel.
I love Beverly Hills, it's my favorite franchise.
It was an awkward. Panel.
It was awkward because the First off they showed us like an
extended sneak peek of the news. Of I thought it was being an
extended trailer. I turned to you and I was like,
that trailer that we saw originally seemed short.
Yeah. So I was like, oh, this is going
to be more the trailer. And so we're like, Oh no, it's
the 1st 15 minutes, which we didn't need.
We didn't need because the 1st 15 minutes of a new season is
establishing where everyone's AT and it's a little dull, right?
You know, it's not a group scene.
No one's like fighting, you know, just like Kyle and her
daughters and you know, Sutton's mother's there and they love
each other and, you know, like to meeting with both.
Give an update on PK. And an Hermes blanket.
A $2000 Hermes blanket. So yeah, like why are we?
I only saw Rachel styling Kathy and I'm like I didn't need any
of them it. Started the panel off to kind of
a snooze as well. The energy was really low.
So people laughed. Yeah.
So, but when the ladies came out and everything, it was great.
It was wonderful. And talk about someone getting
the loudest applause. Rachel Zoe.
People were losing their minds over Rachel Zoe.
Absolutely. Losing their mind.
Like more than any like I thought, you know, Kathy would
be getting the huge applause and all.
That you would think. But no, it was Rachel Zoe, hands
down. Like it was they were.
So deafening, so excited. You know, she was like, oh gosh,
you know, I, I enjoyed the Rachel's O project back in the
day and I'm it's cool that she's coming on the show, but I wasn't
like, Oh my God, this is life altering.
But, you know, hopefully she's great.
Yeah. I don't feel like any really of
the questions or stuff that the moderator put out there were
that. He was just like the best
moderator either. I don't think so.
I mean, yeah, basically like the big thing there seems to be some
sort of rift with Erica and Kyle versus Dorit.
Something happens in the group trip to Rome that makes that all
happen. And Dorit and Kyle were in a
good place and they took free ships back and it was very
awkward panel because I think that I was telling to you saying
this you the difference is I don't necessarily there's
pockets of friendship with Beverly Hills.
I actually believe Erica and Kyle are very close in their in
their friends bows and threats or threat now and Rachel, but
it's just like no one there's not like aside from that, like
really crossover friendships where they feel like there's
more of that and more of a like understanding.
And I hate to use this word because it's ever used
sisterhood with Potomac, you know, and so that made for an
awkward panel with like, you know, also the questions are
awkward, like Sutton talk about Garcettland, how she basically
dropped her ass, right, because you, you know, left three.
It was just really awkward. And then even like he, you know,
he asked Sutton what happened to Avi.
And then it was kind of like which?
I'm sorry, it's Avi, not her husband.
Right? Like why are we so focused on
Avi? Right.
And it was. That was the cliffhanger in the
15 minutes that we saw. Like I don't really care.
And it was a little awkward, her response too, because she's
obviously not trying to be like, I can't his ass, but like, well,
I didn't need an assistant anymore.
And that's what he was hired to do.
So I don't have him, you know. I don't believe, though, that
Sutton Struck does need assistance.
Oh no, I don't believe she can make her own.
Desk something happened. That was what she said.
Why I make my own dentist appointments.
It's like, can you so? No, she's like, I can buy my own
flower. No, stop it.
The opening, the very first scene.
Just spoil it for you. Of Beverly Hills this season.
Is Sutton on a horse? Yeah, so like, gleefully like.
So I feel like we're going to get another Sutton Horse season
out of this. It'll be it'll be wonderful.
And Kyle can be like, what did you do this season?
You got a horse. Oh, what did you do this season?
You rode a horse. Right.
And Teddy can be like nice form. So the audience questions Jeff.
Jeff does not like to talk about this because it happened last
time around too, right? So here's the thing, this guy,
we know his name because he's in the Bravo group that we're in
the fixed group. I'm not going to name his name.
But if you man with the scarf at last at the 2023 reunion, said
Kyle. Why, sorry, sorry, reunion Bravo
con Kyle, why are you keep trying to like thrust Teddy upon
us? Why are you trying to make fetch
happen? So anything's wrong with that
one. Like, you have this moment to
ask a question to Kyle Richards and you're asking about Teddy
Milliken. So you hate Teddy so much, but
you're asking about Teddy. You're making your moment about
Teddy. OK, Sure you do.
You, Boo. And then secondly, to use fetch,
Right? Right.
Like did he say fetch? I don't remember being honest,
but like it was that was the implication like.
I think why are you trying to? Teddy happened.
Why are you doing fetch? Yeah, basically it was just like
it was. So it was.
And her answer, then, was Teddy's my friend.
No, she was like, Teddy's already happening.
And then and other people were like, you know, I like Teddy,
right? And Anna Marie was like daddy
because their sons played football, right?
So today, so today, cut to today.
And this dude shows up trying to like build off like I'm the one
wearing the same fucking scarf. I gotta drop the F bomb.
And just like basically try to question Kyle's existence.
Like Kyle, what what else can you be as the senior OG?
What else are you basically? It wasn't even senior OG.
The question was as the most senior cast member of the show,
right? You know, You know, what do you
still have left to offer the audience?
Basically going off of what you would see online from people who
are hates Kyle saying like what else is Kyle giving us?
Why is Kyle on the show? Like she gives us nothing, Like
she's just coasting? Right.
I'm being Kyle. And also, I think trying to
suggest like, are you going to be honest about what's going on
with your relationships and all this stuff?
But basically what it comes down to is like you're questioning
why is Kyle on the show and just saying, you know, like a a
shady, bitchy kind of way. And it's like, what are you
doing? What do you hope to get from
this? Right, one of the questions at
the Potomac panel, someone asked, someone asked Ashley.
If because Ashley, someone asked Ashley, can she cite something
specifically that Giselle has done to have her back, to have
Ashley's back that wasn't self-serving to Giselle?
Yes. And I was like.
Oh yeah. We were welcome.
So that's a great way to like be critical and shady of another
right person is that they did it right, Not the one where Giselle
was even like who is that hoe? Yeah, she's like, excuse me?
And Giselle was having fun with it too.
She's like, like, what do you mean, you know, self-serving?
And the one was like cursing Giselle.
She was like calling her name. She was basically just like, you
know, right, Saying the quiet part out loud.
It was really funny. Whereas this guy's pretty much
like, you know, bitch, why are you on the show?
Exactly. I'm going to come to this panel
and like, criticize this woman. Like what are you doing?
And I mean, I mean, I guess. What is your purpose Sir, except
to ask dumbass questions? At front of someone who feels,
so, you know, adamant about this, that they're going to go
ahead and spin all the hats. Off this is when we're going to
use. ARF sauce this.
Is where we're going to use the term low hanging fruit in the
correct way. What low hanging fruit that
you're going to be like a typical Reddit little biatch and
say, sorry, not to criticize everyone on Reddit, but like,
you know, the typical Reddit who hate Kyle.
And there's like, I'm going to say this really a shady thing in
the Kyle like to her face. Look at me go and it's like,
what? What are you doing?
Yeah. Because the audience is like, we
don't support this. Yeah, and then, you know, Kyle
had of course a non answer to it because it's like, you know,
what do you expect her to say? You know she.
I don't think she caught it. Yeah, Erica caught it.
Erica clocked it for sure. And was like, yeah.
And then the second person who also said he was out, he was
saying, you know, something with respect of how they talked last
night about. It was, oh, it was it was the
basically who would you leave behind and that sort of thing,
and asked to read who would she leave behind, thinking that
she'd say Kyle and. Oh, that wasn't it.
But no she. Based someone else.
That's what they were talking about last night at Bravo and.
Right. Yes, so.
Yeah, but it was the way he was phrasing it was critical of
Kyle. Then like he shipped.
It was just like, what are you doing?
Like the questions solved. The panel was awkward.
It was just like it was not a good moment.
Everyone looked great though. Absolutely.
So spoiler didn't get a photo with Erica, didn't see the
lounge because she's like not going to the lounge.
Got a close up shot of her, but we didn't get opposed to go
together. Totally fine.
She looked phenomenal. She's also wearing like a rubber
dress. Pretty.
Yeah, she was not going to get down like, because what happens
is that at the end of these panels, people will like, go to
this friend of the stage, well, the the Bravo liberties and
like, Crouch down and take photos.
People rush the stage as if they're like, like starving and
like this is the loaf of bread. Yeah, they're going to be
throwing bread to us here. I was going to say like, it's
the encore of a concert, but OK, we're starving.
They're starving, they eat bread like they're just like rushing
in a polite way. No one's going to get like, you
know, mowed down trample. But it's just like whoa.
And it's like you kind of like you'd get stuck in it and you
can't get close. And Erica, like you said, it was
like, I ain't honey, I'm not getting down there on this skirt
and these heels. But she looked amazing so.
As we were walking out, someone was like, I don't know, Erica
seemed, Erica seemed kind of mean.
And I was like, I didn't know what to say with that because
she didn't seem mean. She seemed a little bit.
I just wanna be there. Maybe she.
Was a little bit over it, you know, but I was like, oh, maybe,
you know, she's wearing. She's kind of course to then.
Yeah, it was just really tight. She was kind of not feeling
that. But yeah, but she looked, she
looked great. They all looked good.
Yeah, so everyone looked great. I got great pictures.
They all were. They all, after their panel,
lined up with their backs to the audience to take a group photo.
So I have a picture of everyone's backs to us, which is
kind of nice. And then Tilly turned around.
Tilly was great. Yeah, she was.
I would love to get a picture of Tilly that would.
Have been good, I know. So.
The only other panel we went to after that was much later in the
day we went to the Bravo Editors panel.
That was. Great.
That was really, really. Informative.
Yes, it was 4 different editors from multiple franchises,
multiple different shows throughout Bravo, even Top Chef,
you know. Like one who had like was on
Season 1 of New Jersey. Yeah, yeah.
You know, like one who, like, edited the table flip, you know,
but they like been done various Bravo shows and, like, seasoned
editors and, you know, really cool.
Like, you know, two women, two men and three people of color.
It was just really like, you know, it was just, I point that
out because it's like, you just don't expect that because you
just, you know, just think it's a very white world behind the
scenes. But it was really nice to see
them. And they were like, just, you
know, that we're Bravo fans and like, you know, this is what it,
this is the process and, you know.
That was a very well run panel and I think that because a lot
of the questions I was formulating in my head because I
was not well attended panel, I thought oh, I could go ahead and
get in line and ask some because I was really interested.
Like what each of the editors would feel like their feather
and their cap was for, you know, their editing.
And they actually asked, like, that was part of the
presentation. Like, we're going to show clip,
like the scenes that they feel are their best work with Bravo.
Yes. And so that was interesting to
see like one of the guys, you know, he told the story about
how, you know, they wanted to cut the hunky Dory out.
Oh, right, Beverly Hills. And he was like, he had to play
kind of play stupid work politics and just be like, oh, I
I know you like you ignored them telling him to take it out, left
it in. And it turned out to be this
huge phenomenon, you know, kind. Of for Kathy Hilton and like,
yeah, to launch Kathy Hilton. And like that might have been
left on the editing floor. Right.
And he's also the guy who's responsible for, you know, your
ugly leather pants, all that stuff.
So there's things that could easily have been edited out if
someone didn't see value to them or have a true belief in what
they were doing. Like if they were just showing
up at work and be like, oh, I had a reality TV, whatever.
Yeah, but no, they they love it. They also were saying, you know,
we're not out to give people. There is no villain at it.
We're not. We're giving, we're given
material and we work with that, but we're not trying to take
anybody down and or paint them in a negative light.
It's just like what we're giving and I'll see.
It's like they're not there's story producers and executive
producers. So I think the direction that a
character might be taken in is really more so up to them.
So some of the editors trying to like, right, you know, pin
pinhole someone, pigeonhole someone as you're the bad guy
this season. Right.
But they did even go so far as to say, like, when they do see
someone kind of getting edited, you know, produced in a bad way,
they'll try to show both sides because one of the ladies was
she edited the COVID seasons of Atlanta when when Marlo was, you
know, actually. A Teach at home.
And so like she was saying like, you know, things she wanted to
give Marlo like a good opportunity, like a good chance,
you know, and not she. Was so excited about being a
housewife. I had expectations and that it
didn't really go the way she thought it was going to go.
Yeah. And so, like when it was kind of
dissolving around, it's still like, well, you know, I want to
put her in the best light because this is her time to
shine. Like, you don't want to like,
have it be all like just crap around her and like really edit
her in such a way that it's like womp, womp.
What did you expect, you know? So then she gave that moment,
you know, of, you know, Marlo had her now iconic line of like,
you know, today trained me that that woman edited that, that
that singing, you know, and it was just really very interesting
to like see what they and we talked about like, you know,
putting, you know, how difficult can it be to like work with like
cell phone footage and when cameras go down and like, that's
all you have to work with. Reunions are tough.
The the one thing that they kept talking is that, you know, we
can't edit you in a certain way if you didn't say it.
Like if the footage doesn't exist, we you know, but we
always hear about that in a lot of reality TV that they can and
will create with Frankenbytes and like different audio and
like. Well, they're saying that we
create with like confessionals. Like Frank gave the example of
like editing my life on the D list.
And Kathy's father had died and obviously they couldn't be there
like in the hospital, at the funeral, whatever.
So he relied on like the storytelling coming from Kathy
and her confessional race. So it's like, if, if something's
not happening on screen, you have to like, and I think that's
also up to the producers to prod the woman to talk about it and
the confessional explain what's going on.
And then the editors can take that that material and like,
make it so we can understand it. But I'm getting at the point
though that I'm sure there are times when they're like, well,
we really do want to make this person look like they said this
because we know that they did, but we just couldn't use that
footage or whatever. So we're going to go ahead and
construct it out of this footage, kind of like doing
plastic surgery, so to speak, with, you know, with camera
footage, so. I think there's thing that I
think. No, I don't think that they did.
That's what I'm saying. I don't think they talked about
that when I'm sure that's something that probably does go
on. I don't think that was really
touched on, which is if I had had a question that that's one
that I would be interested in asking about.
Frankenbytes basically. Right.
Even though they would have said that's not something they could
do, I think it's also not always up to them.
Right, exactly. And I think it's something they
probably they prefer not to do, but I'm sure it does happen.
Right now, yeah, I think it's like they're not the executive
producer. They don't really, they don't
have final cut. You know, they they one was
saying, like I tried to give like a they call fat cut.
So of all this information, all this, all this footage, you
know, and then let them choose what they're going to take out
from it. But she's like, I want to give
as much as possible. So they both seen they both all
four of them were just seeing like really interesting people.
And like it was like, oh, wow. And everyone had great questions
and SC Cup had great questions as the moderator and like she's
just being a fan was like asking things that people wanted to
hear, you know, wanted to know the answers to.
Yeah, it was really good. So it was really well put
together. Like that was that and Potomac
were were great. Panels.
Yeah, I wish Beverly Hills had been better, but.
Yeah, it is famous down to the yeah.
So I think the rest of the day was just us walking around like
the bizarre going back to the lounge and.
Trying to catch. Different people.
The bizarre is where you just, like, see everyone selling their
wares, but it's like people will do a lot of photo OPS.
So you. Yeah, we saw.
It must have been either after or before we saw Teresa and
Louis at her. Booth.
Yeah, that Joe came over and took a picture with them.
Oh, probably. Yes, yeah.
At one point there was like all the men of Bravo or something
where had a stage. It was, that was the jersey
guys, the Jersey guys, it was like Polly and Joe and Joe.
All I know is we were walking over to see what's going on and
I just saw Joe Gorga like shirtless walking off stage and
I was like, well, what's going on over there?
And then like later on, we see on on the Instagram, the
Instagram like him hugging Teresa Louie.
And I'm like, I guess you kind of have to like I can see like
making up with your sister, but like Louis is.
Yeah, it's much. Yeah, especially with recent
videos that have come out, we'll just get that they claim is AI
by the way, they they think that's we're going to think
that's AI. That's not AI, No, no.
So. Anyhoo, it was a long day.
I'm glad we did it. We get to do it again tomorrow.
What's our first thing we're doing tomorrow?
Did we might do the well we I think we could do the traders
panel because we have our photo op with Joe and Melissa, OK, at
11:45 or something like that. So that happened.
So we'll get in there, maybe early, walk around a little bit
and then go to the the photo op. There, Yeah, there's also like
another panel that happens at 11 and we'll see clear that up the
Atlanta panel's tomorrow. And we have our Porsche photo
tomorrow as. Well, that Porsche Sunday, so.
Who's the afternoon photo? Heather Whitney.
Right.
So I think the only Housewives panel that were the Miami's one
is tomorrow, but we're not going to do that because that
coincides with Heather and Whitney.
So I think it was just going to be Atlanta in terms of panels
for us. But he's a good moderator.
And then, yeah, if nothing else is going on there, we can come
back and take a nap, maybe. I don't think so.
I think it's like, well, there's going to be an Ask Andy because
we missed the Ask Andy, which I'm actually OK with because
apparently Jeff Lewis showed his ass.
No, no, it's a fair speech. I was.
Like really he did. Why are you not mentioning that
till now? I don't want to see Jeff.
Lewis's ass? No.
She yes. And now that you say that.
I get the the Monica comment. Right, Right.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is like building off when
he made about her in 2023. Like why are you targeting this
woman right? Such an asshole.
Crazy so well, that was our very long winded recap of the day
today. Yeah, thanks for listening and
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If we talked to any of you at the conference today, it was
wonderful and it truly is great just being able to walk up to
people who are kind of in your camp and just talk to them about
all this stuff. It's it's very freeing, almost.
It was nice to have someone actually say I listen to your
podcast, right? Or like, we are wearing our
shirts. We were like, it's a great
shirt. We got that so many compliments
on the shirt and the fact that there's AQR code, which is
Scott's idea. And it was just like it, you
know, people, it stood out and like it was it was someone said
great marketing. No notes that.
Was very nice. Well, anyway, thanks for
listening and thanks for watching and we'll talk about it
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