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Discretion is advised. Between 1978 and 2001.
At least 65, women disappeared, from Vancouver's, downtown
Eastside, the disappearances of women, a Vancouver's downtown
Eastside began to accelerate the mid-1990s and ended.
When Robert Pickton was arrested in February 2002.
After a tip at Picton, had an unregistered gun on his farm
police raided it. It's believed the first time he
killed was 1991. He became a fully functional
serial killer in 1995 and Robert Pickton stepped up.
His Pace to murder almost every six weeks throughout 2001 but he
wasn't the only active serial killer, the RCMP task force
project even-handed was not only to consider the women missing
from the downtown Eastside. But also, the hemlock Valley,
murders of three sex trade workers, whose bodies were found
on a Logging Road and Agassi BC. As well as a case is an
unidentified Jane Doe. Who's half skull was found in
1995 and Mission her half skull in an ankle bones.
Is All That Remains. That tells us that she's ever
lived. There's also was a cluster of
murders on Vancouver Island and Robert Pickton was just one Of a
growing list of monsters who were considered Prime suspects
in the disappearances of the Vancouver.
Sex trade workers in the years before his arrest.
A long list of suspects who have previously sexually assaulted
abused or murdered sex workers, a list of 600 and all Michael
Stephen Leopold who confessed to his psychiatrist that he planned
to enslave and possibly kill. Prostitutes.
He had a dungeon in his basement and was declared a dangerous
offender by the BC court, and was given an open-ended prison
term. Leopold was sentence in 2002. 11
years in prison, for aggravated assault taken into account, the
thirty four months, spent in pre-trial, custody the trial
judge found, he was a sexual sadist and likely to reoffend
but did not deem him. him a dangerous offender, because he
didn't believe Leopold met the so-called brutality test for
example, Leopold n38 had no prior convictions for violence
or brutality. The three appeal court judges
unanimously overturn, the trial judge ruling and declared
Leopold, a dangerous offender and then substituted an
intermittent sentence. He will have his first parole
hearing after he served seven years required by law, but he
can be detained indefinitely. Leopold attacked a 33-year old
sex worker in the industrial area of The downtown Eastside on
September 14th. 1996. He later told a Vancouver
psychiatrist by his defense lawyer, that the attack was a
trial run for a fantasy. Had to enslave and possibly kill
prostitutes. He even made a special dungeon
room in his basement with a dead bolt on the door, he told the
doctor Leopold's confession to the Dr. Royal Shaughnessy in
itself, was a subject of a Supreme Court of Canada
challenge in 1999. The doctor went to court to get
permission to breach confidentiality to reveal the
details, the high court upheld. A lower Court ruling that
O'Shaughnessy could testify about Leopold's true intentions
of his Ultimate Fantasy before the crown heard from the
psychiatrist. It was agreed to a sentence of
two years. Less a day, Keith Hunter,
Jasperson was born on April 6th 1955 in Chilliwack, British
Columbia Canada at age 35. He was 6 feet, 7 .5 inches and
he weighed 240 pounds, Jasperson began, working toward a goal of
joining, the RCMP, but suffered an injury while training.
That ended this endeavor. He sought work as an interstate
truck driver after relocating to Cheney Washington Jasperson.
Soon realized that his job afforded him, the opportunity to
kill without being suspected. He worked as a long-haul truck
driver traveling widely across North America, murdering various
women in the process. Nicknamed, The Happy Face Killer
for The Smiling cartoon signatures on letters.
He sent to police Jasperson was jailed for a Washington murder
in March, 1995 At one point, he claimed 160 murders describing
his female victims, as piles of garbage dumped on the side of
the road. He later recanted those
statements convictions and Washington State.
Wyoming removed him, permanently from circulation.
Once again, there was no links between him and the happy face
murderer and the vanishing sex workers of the downtown
Eastside. As many urban legends in rumors
of sex workers being used in snuff movies and violent
homemade. Amateur pornography videotapes,
these rumors were violent street, gangs were tar.
Doing women on the downtown Eastside lot of times usually if
they occur some kind of drug debt and brute lot of reports of
extreme brutality happening to these women when they owe money
money to Violent Predator, drug dealers.
There was also a rumor of a violent street gang that was
into human trafficking. They said that these women were
being murdered and hauled Away by long distant truck, drivers
August 1999, Calgary Sun articles, by Trevor green, who
later wrote a book called bad date and 2001, it's about Lost
Girls of the downtown Eastside, how The Disappearance Has are
tied to a sex slave. Slaughter involved ships in the
harbor, reported that women were being entice, on Boards of
international, Freighters with the promise of liquor and drugs.
Once on board, these women were in prison sexually used and then
tossed overboard, when the ships were out in open ocean.
Police, spokeswoman and Drennan said, we occasionally had
reports of prostitutes taken on board of ships and passed around
and abuse. We spoke to many of these women
as we can. We smoke into cab drivers that
may have taken the women to the boats.
An Outreach worker on the downtown Eastside.
Also stated that some of her clients sex workers.
Have told stories of being held prisoners on freighters one girl
was on a freighter last year. The crew loaded her up on some
pretty strong heroine and would not let her go a friend who was
watching out for her went and got in the crews face to Let Her
Go made a big commotion until they let her leave December
12th. 2001 Witnesses told. Police that Green River Killer
suspect. Gary Lee on Ridgeway spent time
in and around Vancouver, were 45 women I've disappeared.
Ridgeway. Neighbor.
Said he and his wife, Judith, constantly traveled and their
motor home to British Columbian. Oregon following ridgeway's
arrest Canadian investigators. Visit authorities in Seattle to
gather information about the suspect Vancouver.
Detective Jim McKnight said police and RCMP have taken
statements from Vancouver. Sex worker says that they
recognize Ridgeway. Some indications, he was in b.c.
McKnight told Seattle, King TV. I can't be too specific because
we don't know for sure. Yet the Vancouver
disappearances, which victim wise is very similar to the
Seattle cases that began in 1984 about the same time that the
green Rivers killing ended. Police said they're
investigating 600 potential suspects. 100 are considered
high priority, including Ridgeway Gary Leon Ridgeway,
became the Green River Killer, who's one of the deadliest
convicted serial killers? He claimed to have killed as
many 80 women. Many of them were sex workers in
Washington during the 1980s and the 1990s, and 2003, he pled
guilty to forty eight murders. The hemlock Valley murders in
1995 three, women were found dead in a remote Bush and
British Columbia's Fraser Valley.
They were found within two months of each other cause of
death was homicide by strangulation.
It's believed they were murdered by the same person.
The killer has never been identified or found 30 year old
Tracy, a lodged a was found on August 12, D5 she was last seen
on August 10th and Vancouver's downtown Eastside at the Waldorf
Hotel. Tracy was struggling with crack
cocaine. Addiction August 12.
Tracy was found nude on a trail near Morris Valley Logging Road
in an area of Agassi, British Columbia Tracy was sexually
assaulted and strangled to death.
She was a mother of a young child at the time.
Two weeks later said, September 2nd 24 year old, Tammy pipe was
found north of Lougheed Highway. Number 7, Tammy also battled
substance abuse. And to support her habit.
She worked in the sex trade and she also worked as an exotic
dancer. She was last seen at the
Vancouver, Cobalt Hotel on Main Street, August 30th, 1995,
October 21st, the nude and partially decomposed body.
A of 35 year old Victoria, Yonkers was found, north of
Lougheed Highway. Number seven on Sylvester Road
near Mission BC. She was rolled down a 25-foot
embankment on a dead end on a Logging Road.
It was determined. That Victoria was dead, at least
30 days before she was found. She was last seen September
11th, 1995 at the social assistance office on Hastings
Street. When it was time for her to pick
up her. Check on September 25th, she was
a no-show on Thursday. April 17th 1997.
A skeleton was found in North Vancouver, the skeletal remains
of a Vancouver missing sex worker was found on Mount
Seymour. Mary Lynn gauri who was 30 when
she went missing and July. 1995 was likely killed by someone who
picked her up. Her remains were found near an
area where people used to dump their garbage, a short walk from
the road halfway up Seymour Mountain at the time of her.
Disappearance The Vancouver Police.
Believe that lagari might have been picked up by a serial
killer. Please said that five?
Sex workers disappeared in 1995. Three of their bodies were found
near Agassi and Mission. Ligardi was identified through
dental records. Carrie Gordon 26 was a mother of
one when she vanished from the Naima BC.
In April 1997, the murder of Kerry Ann Gordon.
Barely received any significant or adequate media attention.
Her body was found on the shores of little lillooet lake near
Pemberton and the spring of 1998 for those who are not familiar
with Vancouver Pemberton would be on the What's called the Sea
to Sky Highway. Probably about a 30 to 40
minute. Maybe an hour drive from
downtown Vancouver. Three men walking along the
shores of little lillooet Lake discovered her remains and March
18th 1998. RCMP reported that carries body
has been there for some time. Her body was dumped in the water
and posed at the high water. Mark, during the Spring
flooding, the remote spot is related is located about 30
kilometers South of Highway 99 next to a forest who road that
leads to the Baptist Smith Indian reserve on the day.
That Carrie went missing. Her ex-husband says she was on
her way to smoke a joint with a friend before heading back to
Nanaimo to pick up her. Welfare check.
But police have checked with taxi companies and unable to
find any records of Gordon taken a cab Carrie's.
Mother said, the last time she saw her daughter alive was in
January. 1997, she'd come home from Christmas and New.
Year's before returning to Nanaimo, where she was trying to
cut ties. Eyes to drugs in the downtown
Eastside. She had a son and she was hoping
to regain custody from her him by her act from her ex-husband.
She was all over Nanaimo, trying to straighten her life out.
She was trying to get her life together.
Her family, firmly believes, she was free of drugs and no longer
working the streets. Please have tribe track down the
last person to see her alive. Who now lives in Toronto, he
told investigators that she went to get Her welfare, check.
The check was on the frigerator on one day and then gone the
next. So in my opinion, carries death
fits into these. Hemlock Valley murders because
they all had ties to the downtown Eastside including her.
And then they were taken to very remote locations.
So from mission to Agassi to Mount Seymour to Pemberton
during the investigation, please developed a long list of
possible suspects by reviewing serious sex, assaults of women,
especially sex workers. The review LED them to one
particular suspect who was identified in 1995 as Ronald.
Richard Mick, Carly a roofer from mission.
One of the things that caught us investigators attention was make
Carly picked up a prostitute at Vancouver's, Astoria Hotel in
July of that year and drove her to the hemlock Valley where she
was beaten raped and dumped from his truck just A few kilometers
from where Tracy, Elijah days. Body was found the woman,
reported the incident to police and McAuley who had a similar
record of violent offenses, was arrested in September 1995,
convicted of rape and 1996 declared a dangerous offender
and jailed indefinitely during the investigation.
Please develop the long list of possible suspects by reviewing
serious sex. Assault of women especially sex
workers the review, LED them to one particular suspect who is
identified in 1995, Ronald Richard McCauley a roofer from
Mission BC. One of the things that caught
investigators attention was that Macaulay picked up a sex worker
at the Vancouver Astoria Hotel. Well, in July of that year and
drove her to the hemlock Valley where she was beaten raped.
And then dumped from his truck just a few kilometers from where
Tracy Elijah T's body was later. Found, The woman reported the
incident to police and McCauley. Who had a record of similar
violence? Offenses, was arrested in.
September 1995 convicted of rape in 1996 declared a dangerous
offender and jailed indefinitely.
He surfaced pretty quick and he looked really really good said
Mick Carl. Who was the lead investigator on
the Tracy, Allah, Judy and Tammy.
Pipe homicides, the things Mick. Carly had done to the victims.
In the rape cases were very similar to what was been done to
the murder victims. Met Carl said, he also lived in
the area and had a vehicle consistent with the suspects.
And he was known to frequent the downtown Eastside and higher sex
workers. Hers.
In addition McCarley once told a parole hearing that he had been
arrested for two rapes and attempted murders.
In the early 1980s, he would have become a serial killer such
as Clifford Olson. I thought we had her guy met
Carl said, but despite the circumstantial evidence police
had, never had enough to lay murder charges against me.
Carly the semen discovered at the crime scene in 1995.
Had been degraded by bacteria. The police were initially unable
to test it as years. Past technology improved the
laboratory eventually use new techniques to retest the sample
and police discovered with DNA evidence that it was confirmed
that one person was Associated. At least, two of the women prior
to their deaths. The finding also A possibility
that two men might have been involved in the murders, but
unfortunately for police to results, had confirmed
investigators had the wrong name on the top of their suspect
list. Ronald Richard McCauley, wasn't
there, man. After all, he looked the best.
So he pursued him mccarl said and we found out, it wasn't
going to be him. We were all disappointed.
The DNA results was a Fuckin turn of events for the RCMP
because investigators considered McCarley a suspect not only in
the lodged a pipe and Yonkers homicide but also in The
Disappearance of murder of four other women as well.
Mary Lee Geary Catherine Conan Les, Catherine night and Dorothy
Spence all disappeared from the downtown Eastside the same year
as the valley murder Hours. Lynn Gary's remain were found
two years later in North Vancouver but bodies of gonna
land has night and Spence have never been found.
And their names are currently on a list of 45 other women who
vanished from the streets over the past two decades, the RCMP
did not consider McCarley a suspect and disappearances of
women, who vanished after September, 1995 I've because he
was in custody from that point onward, but now that he has been
cleared, it means the real killer could be responsible for
three Valley murders. If you look at some of them,
you'll see some consistencies Mick, Carl said, where were they
missing from and what were they doing prior?
When they went missing and who were their Associates?
There. We got to be a couple more.
There got to be some person responsible for my personal
belief, is that Vancouver isn't the only hunting ground The
person is probably hunting all over Vancouver Island up in the
interior Highway of tears and across the border given that
possibility. Senior investigators met in
Kelowna to discuss cases of murdered, missing sex trade
workers from around the province, the valley murders,
the Vancouver, missing women, the murders of women on
Vancouver Island and the Interior Highway of Tears, were
all part of the agenda in the end.
Make Carl said, investigators agreed on the need for a Joint
Force Team assigned exclusively to those files.
The feeling he said is that they shouldn't work on anything else
so they can stay focus and pursue it until the conclude it.
One of the theories is that the killer has either lived in the
area. Was a logger, a fisherman a
hunter familiar with the region or perhaps been incarcerated at
one of those correctional facilities in the Fraser Valley
and became familiar with the area while on a work release
program. Make Carl said investigators
hope to find a way to use computers and combined police
prison parole records with the list of Voters.
Fishermen and loggers in the region.
Anything look tronic that we can get is going to be pulled and
sorted, then we will try and give it parameters and see what
name comes up. Most frequently, whoever comes
up most frequently gets targeted first and What we've been
looking at now, basically, creating a list of the best
people to look at and going and finding them and try to follow
up with them. The problem is that the computer
program has yet to be developed, that could handle such a massive
amount of information. RCMP inspector Keith Davidson a
psychological profile, who helped develop the RCMP computer
system for tracking serial offenders And he's currently
trying to find a way to use computers to assist in the
investigation of the valley murders and the missing women.
Make Carl said that the RCMP recently brought profilers from
Ottawa when a peg to visit Mission and the Agassi crime
scenes. This was done to get a better
idea. What type of person we should be
looking for and make sure we have covered off.
All the list of possible. Suspects mccarl said he's in
regular contact with the missing woman's task force, which has
been reviewing all the sexual Salts and attempted murders and
murders of women in the sex trade around the province.
So far, the review turned up, a list of more than 600 potential
suspects. Deborah Jardine was a compulsive
note-taker, The Habit began years ago when she was taking
her daughter to specialist looking for answers to a
baffling string of medical problems.
So when Anjali Darlene, went missing for downtown's
Vancouver's, downtown Eastside. Side and November of 1998.
Her mother took note of what the authorities were doing the
finder from her home and Spar would be see mr.
Jardine jotted down the time sedate the names of each
officer. She spoke to and transferred,
her work to a journal. Eventually, those notes would
form the blueprint for a formal complaint against The Vancouver
Police. Alleging failure to properly,
investigate Angelina's disappearance.
The complaint was a ejected in 1999 by the office of police
complaint commissioner, but Miss Jordan appealed but that too was
dismissed by the same office. Her daughter was named as one of
the 50 women who may have fallen prey to a serial killer, mr.
Dean's, meticulous records. Provide a window into the
mindset of The Vancouver Police during the late 1990s, when When
the number of women who vanished began to soar my daughter is
gone and no one ever investigated it.
Mr. Dean said in a telephone interview from Spar would, it's
a real crime. Liberal MLA Tony Buhler said,
Miss Jardine's account shows how the police misread.
The warning signs of a possible killer in the downtown Eastside.
They also underscore the need for a public inquiry.
Mr. Bowler also said that Angela Disappearance in 1998, when she
was 27 occurred around the time. That Kim Ross, Mo a Vancouver.
Police, profiler wrote a report warning that a serial killer
might be stalking sex workers, the report was never acted upon
and mr. Ross Mo contract was not renewed
mr. Bowler also launched a
complaint. With the police complaint
commissioner calling for an inquiry, the Surrey Newton MLA
and Miss Jardine's failed attempt to get the police.
To consider Foul. Play was likely experienced by
dozen of relatives of missing women.
I can't imagine what it must be like to lose a loved one.
And then realize that nothing is being done about it.
Mr. Bowler said among other things.
Mr. Dean's, records. Show that the police did not
call her after Angela's vanished.
It was Miss, Chardon who finally contacted detective, Al Howlett
of the missing person Squad in January of 1999.
Then two months have passed since Angela was last seen and
mr. Dean asked, pull asked why
police didn't notify her detective replied.
That Angela was an adult and later, he told her he believed
that Angela may have moved to the United States to start a new
life at the same time. That the missing person
detective was playing down. Angela's disappearance beat
Constable. Dave, Dixon who worked the
downtown Eastside told her that scores.
A women were Vanishing in 1999 of January.
Constable Dixon said in his East Hastings, Street office wall was
plastered with photos of missing women.
Her notes also show that police did not search Angela's hotel
room or interview, her social workers or friends in the weeks
after she disappeared. I don't know what the hell was
going on, mr. Dean said, I mean, number one,
no one seemed to care that Angelo was missing number two.
The police didn't certainly care because they never notified Us.
Number three, I have a constable that work.
In the downtown Eastside telling me, it was like a serial killer
was on the loose, taking women Vancouver.
Police spokesman, Scott dream. L said, police would not comment
on mr. Dean's.
Complaint saying it was confidential, mr.
Deane. Like other relatives of missing
women thinks her daughter was being ignored.
Because Angela was a drug-addicted sex worker, who
lived in a run-down Hotel on Skid Row.
Today, she believes Angela is dead and likely slain.
She says that she was particularly frustrated.
When police tried to suggest that Angela may have left town
to begin a new life, that response told her that police
were not serious about investigating her daughter's.
Disappearance anyone who knew Angela knew she wouldn't be
capable of something that complicated.
Angela was mentally handicapped Out and had the intellect of a
ten-year-old. Her mannerisms and reactions
were impulsive and child. Like her mother said mr.
Dean said her daughter's life was plagued with mental and
emotional problems. But Jardine's put on July 18 in
a care home, centered in kastigar BC but later that year,
she ran away and drifted to Vancouver's downtown Eastside in
February of that year The Joint RCMP.
Vancouver Police task force on missing women charged Robert
William Pickton of Port Coquitlam with two counts of
first-degree murder. Since then police laid for more
murder charges against a 52-year.
Old pig farmer. A paper trail Angela.
Jardine has been missing since November 20th, 1998 her mother
Debra immediately that's taken an effort to find her daughter
1998, November 10th. Angela called her mother and
Spar would be see from her caseworkers office, Angela, said
she got her hair cut and her caseworker.
Elaine McQuaid has taken photos and would send them to mr.
Jardine. November 20th, Angela was last
seen at a day-long conference on drug use and harm prevention in
the downtown Eastside. She wore pink dress and high
heels At 4 p.m. she approached Liz Evans, who worked at the
Portland hotel where Angela lived Angela kissed her goodbye
and left. It was a last known sighting of
Angela December, 16th, Miss McCoy, a called mr.
Jardine and told her Angela hasn't been seen in weeks mr.
Dean wrote down Miss mcquaid's, exact words as a parent.
You have the right to know your Ders, missing.
She quoted December 20th. Mr. Dean called Miss McQuaid a
few times before Christmas. But she left for holidays,
December 25th, when Angela didn't call or appear at
Christmas to Jardine's feared. The worse residents and Spar
wood began circulating photos of Angela.
And the Jardine's Church set up a trust fund to pay for posters
1999. January 18th, mr.
Dean called Miss McQuaid and asked for a phone number for
her. Police officer in charge of
Angela's case. Miss McQuaid gave her the number
of the downtown Eastside Community.
Safety office or Constable Dave Dixon worked, mr.
Jardine called the office summer 19th.
Constable Dixon returned. Mr. Dean's call.
He said he knew Angela and he said it was unlike her to
disappear. He said, Angelo is now among
several women who vanished from the downtown Eastside, he said
he believed there was many more he Gave mr.
Dean the name the number of detective L Howlett in missing
persons mr. Jardine phone, detective
Howlett. He returned her call the next
day. She identify herself and asked
why the police never called about Angela's, disappearance
detective how it replied. It was because Angela was an
adult. She asked him to fax her a copy
of the missing person poster. Detective Howlett replied that
it was still being made. February mr.
Jardine made several calls to the police.
The Portland Hotel were Angela lived and the downtown Eastside
agencies. She said, she repeatedly
expressed concerns that police. Weren't looking for, Angela
February 3rd, detective Howlett called mr.
Jardine to say, there's been sighting of Angela in the
neighborhood and this was delaying the investigations.
It turned out that some people were Mistaking Angela for Serena
Abbott's way, another woman and the neighborhood Jardin disputes
a resemblance eventually miss a bus way vanished as well.
She's now one of the six women, Robert Pickton is accused of
killing or was convicted of killing mr.
Dean called Crime Stoppers three times.
On the first two occasions. She was told that Angela was not
in the data banks of missing person on the third try, mr.
Dean spoke to an officer who had once lived and Spar wood and new
Angela. He located her file and entered
Angela's name into the data. Bang February 15th, mr.
Jardine called Mark Townsend. Who managed?
The Portland Hotel were Angela lived.
Mr. Listen said, that police had not searched her room.
Mr. Deane cited. This fact and her police
complaint alleging. It showed the police didn't
properly investigate. Angela's Disappearance in
response to mr. Jardine the police complaint.
Commissioner's Office explained this was because the Portland
Hotel staff had been through the room and did not find anything
amiss. Mr. Dean argued, that the hotel
staff. Staff aren't trained to look for
missing persons. July 28 mystery our Dean filed,
the complaint to the office of police complaint.
Commissioner allegedly, that The Vancouver Police Department
neglected, its Duty by failing to invest her daughter's.
Disappearance 2002 her. DNA would eventually will be
discovered on Robert pickton's pig farm and Port.
Coquitlam. 39 year old transgender sex worker Named
Shauna said, I knew one of them. Her words are revealing.
She knew Serena Abbott's way. One of the last to disappear on
The Killing Fields of the downtown Eastside.
She was the one they found her dental plate.
She's been beaten by a date once and they knocked her teeth out.
So that's why they have this Dental plate.
They found it out there. A deep scar runs her runs under
her right. Eye a date.
Hit me in the face three times with a piece of metal pipe,
fractured my cheekbone. In three places, the orbital
bone was mush. She proudly turns her head
around and shows what a great Good job.
The plastic surgeon did rebuilding her shattered face.
Willie Pickton, Shawna remembers him.
He had long brown hair. That was about shoulder length.
She said he had a mustache, a goatee ish kind of beard.
He was known as a weird date. A guy to be careful about.
I seen him driving around several times in a camper even
around the transgender stroll. She said, she heard that he
takes The girl's back with Promises of an eight ball of
rock heroin or crack. He'll tell them they'll get $150
to service him and his buddy, they also found bras cellphone
surrender has asthma inhalers that belong to some of the
missing women and that was just what they uncovered above ground
beneath. The mud and debris is of the
Pickton. Farm police have told the
families, they're uncovering a massacre.
The relatives cannot even bear to think what has been fallen on
their loved ones. They know about a powerful wood
chipper that was found on the farm and forensic Specialists
spent hours in February searching the pig Barnes.
They've heard from former visitors on the farm that they
remember Willie proudly pointing to the Vats where he used to
boil Slaughter pigs. They also learn that the owners
of the meat, rendering plant near downtown Eastside, have
told the police that the pickton's have been delivering
Pig entrails for more than 20 years.
They know that the company has been asked to search the records
and check the dates of picked This delivery what horror be
felled on these women. Now it's up to the forensic
scientist to tell their story Earthmovers with.
Huge claws at huge, mounds of landfill that cover.
The property heaps of dirt hides, clues of missing, women
dump trucks, carry, loads to white tents, where the soil is
shifted and placed on for conveyor belts.
A specially trained team of 91 police officers Ologist
anthropologists have searched for the tiniest bits of human
remains DNA evidence. They already found two hundred
thousand pieces of DNA evidence. The painstaking work is expected
to last four years. The farm site has been divided
into two 216 search grids of 20 meters each.
The RCMP says since June Of 2002 when archaeologists students
were brought to assist on the site. 12.5 grids have been fully
examined, geologists estimate. There are about a hundred and
sixty five thousand. Cubic meters of surface soil.
That must be shifted and search and that does not include soil
below the surface. It is so surreal Debbie is
working on a gas line across the street from the farm.
She stands in her orange coveralls and hard hat, and
capable of truly comprehend. What is being Unearthed on the
farm? She lives in Port Coquitlam.
Most her life and she knows the Pickton brothers, and even
partied at the roadhouse at the, in famous piggy Palace that ran
on their property. Just around the corner.
Dave Pickton was often friendly and generous.
She says As well, Willy was quiet and kept to himself.
Their late mother, sold unpasteurized milk from the farm
piggy Palace had a reputation of wild parties.
That Drew Partiers and sex workers to the dance hall, were
a five-dollar entry ticket. Got you a pig roast dinner?
She only knew that it was a popular local hangout after the
regular bars have closed. She said she been there out once
or twice at the invitation of Dave, Picton and saw many of her
neighbors now, she wonders, she gazes at the heavy equipment
digging at the silent Earth. She remembers doing some work
near the farm sometime ago, and going for a walk on the
property. And she was quickly, confronted
by snarling dogs, and the angry arrival of the Picton brothers,
and a pickup, there are really put off by me being there.
She said, now this this doesn't actually seem true, but it does
go with that feeling. I had that day.
That something was going on at the farm with all the dogs.
Eggs and their friggin sign Dave Pickton.
Has insisted that the body parts and the other Discovery.
Other discovered by the police were planted and have nothing to
do with Willie. Debbie says the talk around town
that Willie if guilty could not have acted alone, people think
other people were involved. Willie doesn't seem that smart
to do it on his own. He must have needed some help.
Both brothers had run in with the law before.
Dave Pickton was convicted of sexual assault in 1992 and was
fined. Brother, Willie was also known
to police and 1997, he was charged.
The attempted murder after a couple driving along Dominion
Road were found bleeding and handcuffed partially closed.
Sex trade, worker staggering near the farm.
Miss Anderson her. Her name has been changed under
a protection. Been told.
Willie Pickton has repeatedly stabbed her with a brown?
Handled kitchen knife. Pickton was charged with
unlawful confinement and tempted murder and aggravated assault.
Picton insisted that. She attacked him first in a
robbery attempt and had a stab wound to prove it.
The charges were stayed. An aunt of one of the missing
women said she called them three years ago but they dismissed the
tip newspaper reports about another woman.
Who told police she saw bags of bloody clothing and a trailer at
the farm. Bill Hitchcock, a former
employee of pickton's also went to the police in 1998, after he
was told by a friend that she has seen a collection.
Action of purses IDs that were kept in the trailer on the
property yet. Nothing was done and women
continue to disappear. So we're going to continue on
with this tomorrow. Tomorrow, I'm going to go over
the Robert Pickton evidence and also, we're going to get into
the 1997 knife fight, that William Pickton was charged
with, but the crown prosecutors decided to drop those Charges.
So I want to appreciate everyone's patience while I've
been working on getting these podcasts out.
I've been writing this series for about seven months and
because of the dark nature and the heavy nature of this
content, I also read a lot of like positive thinking and
affirmations that kind of stuff. So, you know, keep the keep me
sane, you know, like the the Stuff is pretty, pretty hard to
research. And I had to take long breaks
sometimes especially at the really upsetting content that
I'm going to get into. There's there's some stuff
that's pretty heartbreaking. So I decided that every podcast
I'm going to leave with something positive.
So I'm going to read, you know, a poem, something uplifting
something to end things on on a strong happier.
Positive note, this is called, never too late.
It was written by Doris Santa Jack.
It's never too late to be who you want to be.
It's never too late to change your thoughts and beliefs and
perceptions. It's never too late to be
optimistic enthusiastic and happy.
It's never too late to have a great attitude.
It's never too late to be more adaptable in every situation.
It's never too late to embrace unavoidable change rather and
fight it. It's never too late to forgive
yourself and others. It's never too late to learn to
grow. And be good to ourselves along
the way. It's never too late to get
unstuck it's never too late to change the ways and try new
things. It's never too late to expand
your mind and believe in perceptions equal to your
reality. It's never too late to in
corporate a sense of humor and all things which happens around
us. It's never too late to see the
good in everything. It's never too late to remember
that every Obstacle you meet in life can be seen as a block or
an opportunity. It's never too late to learn
from our mistakes and failures there.
Just signs of what did not work for us.
It's never too late to listen, to get to know your children.
It's never too late to fill your heart with love for yourself and
others, including strangers and animals.
It's never too late to be fun and adventurous and Phil excited
about life. It's never too late to make new
friends to enjoy who support your true self.
It's never too late to heal yourself from all the hurt and
pain. It's never too late to laugh out
loud at least once a day. It's never too late.
To heal Old Wounds and enjoy life to the fullest.
It's never too late to be a Survivor who loves surviving.
It's never too late to accomplish those dreams and
desires that you're were your first love.
It's never too late. To feel every good emotion.
You ever wanted to feel? It's never too late to feel sexy
and beautiful and celebrate your uniqueness.
It's never too late to let go of the past and not worry about the
future instead. Learn to live and enjoy the
present moment. It's never too late to love
yourself, truly so that you won't need approval from others.
It's never too late to live up to your own expectations.
It's never too late to be a best friend to yourself first.
It's never too late to think outside the box and be open to
new ideas. It's never too late to bring
balance to work and play. Never Too Late to enjoy sex and
be more playful. It's never too late to live
freely and every way possible. It's never too late to be the
best you that you can be. It's never too late to fill
this. Life has been worth it as you
continue to learn and grow. It's never too late to want the
best for yourself and think Thoughts with no limitations.
It's never too late to dream, big and know that you deserve
it. It's never too late to focus on
the good instead of the bad. It's never too late to learn.
Fear has no place in our minds and heart.
It's never too late to know, true love.
Which can be found through work or relationships.
It's never too late to use our minds and Imagination to create
our lives. It's never too late to know, and
understand, we all connected and never too late to pay attention
and be aware of ourselves. It's never too late to get the
most out of life and truly experience.
Feelings of happiness for no reason.
At all, it's never too late to appreciate and be grateful for
everything. It's never too late to feel
truly loved and appreciated it's never too late to release any
guilt anger or resentment in her bodies and mind it's never too
late to let go of anything that does not align with our higher
self. It's never too late to go after
what you really want in life. It's never too late to say those
things. You've always wanted to say
never too late to see the beauty in the world and the beauty and
others. It's never too late to fill our
heart with love until it overflows with joy.
It's never too late to be true to yourself now.
And always it's never too late to live by your own rules for
your own wants. It's never too late to, truly
learn to enjoy all the lessons of the world.
We live in. In.
It's never too late to live your life with no regrets.
It's never too late for a new beginning.
It's never too late to always focus on the end result which
you want. There's still time to be whole.
The sooner you start the longer, you will have to enjoy the
outcome.