1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,600 Welcome to Vancouver, True Crime. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:04,500 I'm very honored, a very special guest for the second time. 3 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:07,100 Constable man to stayed. We're going to talk about the 4 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:09,800 safety going to have a conversation about the changes 5 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:11,500 of the city. Very honored to talk to you. 6 00:00:11,500 --> 00:00:17,400 Amanda how you been busy great. It's been a crazy last couple of 7 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:21,100 months, with everything that we've been seeing in the media 8 00:00:21,100 --> 00:00:24,900 and the policing world. It's been busy, but I'm good. 9 00:00:25,500 --> 00:00:28,400 Thanks for having me today, Mark, I interviewed you was it 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,300 last summer? I know it seems like just 11 00:00:31,300 --> 00:00:34,100 yesterday but I'm sure it was months ago and some today, by 12 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:37,800 the way, all thank you. The kind of soft glow. 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,100 I remember just before entering you, there was the ground will 14 00:00:43,100 --> 00:00:46,000 Street machete attack which was never something I never 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:50,400 happened. There's been increased drug, use 16 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,500 the drug Supply, the toxic drug Supply, and there's like this 17 00:00:53,500 --> 00:00:56,500 kind of perfect storm that's going on it, plays out in the 18 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:59,200 public and then course, you're on the front line and you're the 19 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,600 one that has to deal with these calls and then there's a public 20 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,600 scrutiny as must be. I like a very dramatic time to 21 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:10,600 be a police officer. Dramatic is not the right word, 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:15,300 but it's Austin is probably the correct turned also in the media 23 00:01:15,300 --> 00:01:17,700 with these violent attacks on random stranger. 24 00:01:17,900 --> 00:01:22,200 Jackson and weapons being used. We're also seeing officers 25 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:23,500 dying. We're all. 26 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:29,100 Yeah, big shot. I just came back last week from 27 00:01:29,100 --> 00:01:32,300 a funeral for a Monte Rio Rancho police officer that was killed 28 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:36,100 in the line of duty three officers were shot on that. 29 00:01:36,100 --> 00:01:39,100 Call was a complete outright Ambush, right? 30 00:01:40,900 --> 00:01:45,200 I can't really provide too many details about what transpired, 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,200 but from what I understand, it was a Just a check won't be in 32 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:54,500 call or these, I'm not sure there's been a couple or actual 33 00:01:54,500 --> 00:01:58,500 suspect called the police themselves and lured officers 34 00:01:58,500 --> 00:02:00,000 there. I don't know if that's the case 35 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,200 in this one, this particular incident but three officers 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:07,900 attended to check a while being and as soon as they got there, 37 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:09,000 they will shop. All three of them. 38 00:02:11,300 --> 00:02:16,200 Yeah, so it's not only scary for a regular citizens of the city 39 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,800 but it's very far. And to say that it I mean this 40 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:23,500 is what we signed up, I get that we when I wanted to be a police 41 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:26,500 officer, I remember being nine years old and thinking I'm going 42 00:02:26,500 --> 00:02:29,600 to change the world, I'm going to make it and now I'm at such a 43 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,900 weird thing to want to do, but that is never changed. 44 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:36,200 I've always wanted to make a difference and I've always 45 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,000 wanted to help people if you get into policing, a don't want to 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:40,300 help people. You doing it for the wrong 47 00:02:40,300 --> 00:02:42,100 reason. I'm sure, you know, the, the 48 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:44,800 risk and everything you're doing it more or less just for a 49 00:02:44,808 --> 00:02:47,500 paycheck, you're putting your neck on the line to the, again, 50 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:50,400 the There's a saying you know every call you have no idea what 51 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,600 you're walking into exactly. And so in the back of my mind, 52 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,700 every time I put my uniform on, I think there's a possibility 53 00:02:59,700 --> 00:03:03,200 today that I may not come home, and there is a possibility that 54 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:08,000 I may have to use deadly force and I never used to really think 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,600 about that means always sort of a possibility like in the back 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,800 of my mind. But now every time I put on my 57 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,200 uniform, I think. Okay. 58 00:03:15,500 --> 00:03:20,900 Today is a new day. Yes, I prepared for what the day 59 00:03:20,900 --> 00:03:25,100 could brighten and all these officers that are being killed 60 00:03:25,100 --> 00:03:29,100 in one duty, it's happening, either attending call or a 61 00:03:29,100 --> 00:03:32,200 gaming console Hong was shot and killed in its morons. 62 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,600 He was getting coffee or of course, they were on a 63 00:03:36,700 --> 00:03:39,800 motorcycle course and he was just going to two morons to get 64 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,100 coffee and donuts or his team members and he was shot and 65 00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:47,700 while I was standing in line. So oh my god, do we have here? 66 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:51,800 More paranoid may be good because we have to eat. 67 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:53,700 It's yeah. But you don't know if someone 68 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:55,700 approaches, they might just say, hey, you know, you're doing 69 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:58,600 great or my hand broaching you and Kaboom, we were talking a 70 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:00,700 little bit. Before we started the podcast 71 00:04:00,700 --> 00:04:03,600 that the randomness is something that I'm not used to. 72 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:05,300 I've been in the city for a long time. 73 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:09,500 I've been in the city since the 1977 those are balancers stupid. 74 00:04:09,500 --> 00:04:13,500 Stop drinking idiots, shithead males and alcohol is not a good 75 00:04:13,500 --> 00:04:16,200 mix trouty testosterone. That kind of stuff. 76 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,899 But this is a new thing. Thing, I really believe it's 77 00:04:18,899 --> 00:04:22,700 tied in mental health and unpredictable nest. 78 00:04:22,700 --> 00:04:24,900 And then the intention. You have no idea what someone's 79 00:04:24,900 --> 00:04:26,900 intentions are. Now, you just said you're 80 00:04:26,900 --> 00:04:29,700 putting on your uniform, am I going to get critically injured 81 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:30,700 it? Something, you know, or have a 82 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:33,100 violent incident or you're going to have to use deadly force? 83 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:38,200 That's very sober, very soon comment, but I see quite often 84 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,600 I'm called him intently comments on posts where we're heading and 85 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,600 officers, we New Orleans. Well, you signed up for this. 86 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,000 Well, this is, this is part of your job. 87 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,900 It is to an extent, but I don't sign up to get murdered in a no, 88 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:55,900 no, he'll know. When I started, I wanted to help 89 00:04:55,900 --> 00:04:58,500 people and I still want to help people like that 9 year-old 90 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:00,800 Boyle that haven't been hopes and dreams of changing the 91 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:02,300 world. I still want to do that. 92 00:05:02,300 --> 00:05:07,200 And yeah it is part of the job but it's kind of sobering the 93 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:13,600 fact that we We are seeing more and more violent and I used to 94 00:05:13,608 --> 00:05:16,600 think all, you know, I'm glad we don't live in in the state. 95 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:21,700 Yeah, I mean slightly out of control and people are being 96 00:05:21,700 --> 00:05:23,300 shot and killed every single day. 97 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:29,200 Regular citizens, police officer equal just Being shot or sad. 98 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:32,100 And I used to think, oh, we're so lucky that we live in Canada, 99 00:05:32,300 --> 00:05:36,200 and I think that I still think that, but now we're starting to 100 00:05:36,207 --> 00:05:38,600 see a little bit of trickle-down. 101 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,700 I always think that we're about 45 years behind Seattle and I 102 00:05:43,707 --> 00:05:46,700 think whatever's happening sort of, on that flight of the 103 00:05:46,700 --> 00:05:51,000 boulder thing, about 45 years, we'll start to see coming 104 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,200 similar incidences and similar demographics. 105 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:57,600 And the way the world is and the way that that City used is, 106 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,200 Regressing. So it does make sense and it's 107 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:06,400 it's a scary thought. But we go out there every day. 108 00:06:07,700 --> 00:06:11,500 Trying to make a difference and we go out there wanting to help 109 00:06:11,500 --> 00:06:15,200 people. And if I can do my part, by 110 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:21,000 making people feel safe by giving them some kind of edge or 111 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:25,300 some kind of, just very basic. Safety advice on how to keep 112 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:26,800 yourself. Safe, not only on the transit 113 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,100 system, but just in general, and especially for women, especially 114 00:06:30,100 --> 00:06:36,800 women, because we're sort of as women taught from a very young 115 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:40,500 age - I don't make a scene be polite. 116 00:06:41,300 --> 00:06:44,800 He and were also taught a very young age that if a boy hits 117 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,800 you, he likes you. Like you're on the school 118 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,800 ground, right? And yeah, the bully it comes in, 119 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,400 you know, pushes you over. Oh no, your he just likes you at 120 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:56,500 least just trying to flirt with me because they like, well, we 121 00:06:56,500 --> 00:06:59,000 don't, we don't need that, we don't know. 122 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,300 And and I'm here to stand with all the women because I've been 123 00:07:03,300 --> 00:07:06,100 there. Yeah, obviously identified 124 00:07:06,100 --> 00:07:09,300 women, I am a woman. And we all have shared 125 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:12,200 experiences. I can help from a tactical 126 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:15,800 perspective or even just from a woman's perspective on how to 127 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,400 keep yourself safe. Then I'm going to shout it from 128 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,400 the rooftops because I'm very passionate about it. 129 00:07:21,900 --> 00:07:25,200 Good for you. Let's talk first than about 130 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:29,100 security systems that one should be aware of what are the some 131 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:31,100 advice for them when they're traveling? 132 00:07:31,100 --> 00:07:33,900 Throughout Metro Vancouver? Yeah, absolutely. 133 00:07:33,900 --> 00:07:37,400 So the first thing I always tell people is be prepared. 134 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,600 So know where you're going. If you're taking the trade and 135 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,900 you've never taken the train before or you're trying to plan 136 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:47,000 your route, know what you're saying, what are the TransLink 137 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,000 website? And you can do the trip planner 138 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:52,800 and you can find exactly where you need to go and how you need 139 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,400 to get there. And this is super important if 140 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,300 you're traveling at night because at night, the trains are 141 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:01,800 a little bit longer in between, it's all you want to make sure 142 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,100 you're utilizing your time effectively, and you don't want 143 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:07,500 to sort of you don't have to hang out. 144 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,800 Out on the platform or in the station for any longer than you 145 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,600 have to do them then don't. So that's why I always recommend 146 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:17,300 that you do your trip planner so you can maximize your time. 147 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,300 And if you're traveling to Great, make sure that everybody 148 00:08:21,300 --> 00:08:23,400 knows where you're going. Make sure everywhere and 149 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,200 destination in mind or especially for parents with 150 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,400 young children, we see this a lot where Mom and Dad will get 151 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,799 on the train and then they don't really manage the time properly. 152 00:08:34,799 --> 00:08:37,700 And then before, you know, the doors are closed and your child 153 00:08:37,700 --> 00:08:39,799 is still on the platform and the train. 154 00:08:39,900 --> 00:08:43,000 Oh my god. Oh, oh, oh yeah. 155 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,400 Watching you too old. Oh yeah. 156 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:50,100 So, I always want to make sure that to tell parents that you 157 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:52,200 have a plan with your kid, will carless of the age. 158 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,600 Make sure they know their name, their phone number, your name, 159 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,900 and if they can't remember, either not old enough to render 160 00:08:56,900 --> 00:09:00,800 that like a wristband or something in a pocket or 161 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,500 something that identifies them. Apple are cake. 162 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:07,100 I love an apartheid, slapping are a and everything you need. 163 00:09:07,100 --> 00:09:12,100 Yeah, make sure that child knows either stay put and come back 164 00:09:12,100 --> 00:09:16,000 around well, whatever destination that you had 165 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:17,000 planned. If they're old enough to 166 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,500 comprehend, if whatever destination, you had planned, 167 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:21,900 say, you are at Waterfront and you're going to Stadium. 168 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,000 Then you can say, if we ever get separated just leaving it Julian 169 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:28,000 for young children, I would say, make sure you just teach them to 170 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,000 stay. Put you want them to know that 171 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,400 they're safe where they are and to look for sky. 172 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,000 It ended, so you'll see a Transit employee wearing a 173 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,300 bright yellow bass. That's a Sky Train on it. 174 00:09:39,300 --> 00:09:42,300 Those people can help you or police officer, of course, and 175 00:09:42,300 --> 00:09:47,100 then we can reinvent them. It happens a lot, a lot on and I 176 00:09:47,108 --> 00:09:50,500 think I would I would terrify me like, oh my God, is he laid our 177 00:09:50,500 --> 00:09:54,500 old? We're constantly reuniting 178 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,000 parents and children, so it doesn't, you're not going to 179 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,500 avoid it, you know, kids are kids are funny. 180 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:03,300 They, there was constantly trying to test. 181 00:10:03,500 --> 00:10:07,500 You write running away. Always say that the first, like 182 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:10,600 five years of a child's life is yarn suicide watch because like 183 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,900 they're constantly just running into Track Em. 184 00:10:12,900 --> 00:10:15,800 Oh yeah, I'd already say why should get into everything she 185 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:19,700 loved to get behind the television of all the wires - oh 186 00:10:19,700 --> 00:10:21,600 God. Yeah those, my son is more 187 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,200 clingy. Like he's not really like, he 188 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,600 doesn't really get us up am. Oh my God, my daughter would say 189 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,600 anything and everything like yeah, no. 190 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:34,000 He's yeah. Who their mom and dad are or 191 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,700 some of the contact and then who to ask for help? 192 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:41,400 That's super important. Another good tip is be aware, I 193 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,700 can't stress this enough. Be will matter where you are, be 194 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:49,000 aware of your surrounding. So Gone are the days where you 195 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,200 can just put your earphones in and then listen to your music or 196 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:57,600 your podcast or watch on Netflix will be, you have to be aware, 197 00:10:57,700 --> 00:11:01,300 you have to know especially if you're walking on the street. 198 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,000 It was cars. If you're on a train, just know 199 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:11,100 who's around you. And I always say have an Escape 200 00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:14,400 Plan. Yeah, and that's not necessarily 201 00:11:14,500 --> 00:11:16,600 a negative thing and I'm going to get a tax. 202 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:19,900 So I always have to have an escape plan and needed in in the 203 00:11:19,900 --> 00:11:24,400 way that just being aware and knowing ya being prepared and 204 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:28,200 having having a root out solar necessarily an Escape Route, I 205 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,300 call an Escape Route for tactical reasons, but having a 206 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,400 Way out. Yeah, if you will, ya know where 207 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:43,000 you're going to a restaurant? Nowhere, your exits are and I'm 208 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:46,100 because I'm a police officer, I'm hyper aware of everything. 209 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:50,700 And I, and I, and I truly like a crazy person when I go places. 210 00:11:50,700 --> 00:11:53,300 I know who was in the restaurant, I know where the 211 00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:54,700 exits are know where the bathrooms are. 212 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:57,800 I don't, I don't sit, we have a window a little bit live in the 213 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,200 room. Yeah. 214 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,300 And he something feels off and I'm, and I'm not there. 215 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:06,600 Yeah, so I'm always aware of what's around me and even in 216 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,100 the, it Clickety is just, you know, just make eye contact with 217 00:12:10,100 --> 00:12:11,400 people around you. You don't have to have a 218 00:12:11,408 --> 00:12:13,100 conversation, somebody, if you don't want. 219 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,400 Well, I'm not asking you to do that and asking to make sure 220 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:19,400 that, you know, where your exits are here on the SkyTrain, very 221 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,000 important to know the safety features. 222 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,000 So if you've never looked for them before, if you get on the 223 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,100 train, the next time you're there, you're going to Basra sea 224 00:12:26,100 --> 00:12:28,700 baths, just have a look around. Just, just look for the yellow 225 00:12:28,700 --> 00:12:30,900 strip. Super importantly, I will strip. 226 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:33,600 It's In all Sky train cars. It's all fall on the city bus. 227 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:37,500 So it's it's yellow strip that runs along the window of all 228 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:40,100 three cars and that's a silent alarm. 229 00:12:40,300 --> 00:12:44,000 So when you push that the silent alarm, that goes to the 230 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,000 operation control center for translating, and they are in 231 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:49,800 direct radio communication with the sky Train attendant. 232 00:12:49,900 --> 00:12:53,600 And then, we also have in our Dispatch Center and we have a 233 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:57,200 radio that we can hear the SkyTrain attendance when they're 234 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,200 dispatched. So they'll send the sky Train 235 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,500 attendant or Canada. Attended depending on what part 236 00:13:02,500 --> 00:13:07,200 of the system that you're on and wherever station there at 237 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,100 they'll send someone at the next available station to check it. 238 00:13:10,300 --> 00:13:13,200 So you don't even have to say anything you can just if you are 239 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,700 uncomfortable, someone's making you feel uncomfortable. 240 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,500 There's you know, it is said that may, I don't know. 241 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:24,100 Lead to something more. You can always push it. 242 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:28,100 Like they're that the other day, we had someone who's concerned 243 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:30,700 about someone passed out on the train and that's pretty common. 244 00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:33,500 And You could be your, she could be pops out for many different 245 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,700 reasons, but if you just, you don't want to get involved. 246 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:38,400 That's fine. You don't have to check on 247 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:42,600 someone for not asking you to do first aid, but just know that if 248 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,700 you push that yellow button, that yellow strict that someone 249 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:49,100 will come and do it for you. So we get a lot of people pass 250 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:52,100 are then trained, whether it's service tired from a long day at 251 00:13:52,100 --> 00:13:54,900 work, or it could be drug induced, or it could be an 252 00:13:54,908 --> 00:13:56,700 evening. And we have a lot of elderly 253 00:13:56,700 --> 00:13:59,900 people, that Isaac mean, that get lost weight. 254 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:04,800 That it's So if you'd ever just worried about somebody, it's 255 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,100 more than fine to push that yellow button. 256 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,900 And also another good thing is knowing our text. 257 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:12,900 Remember, we have a text service, right? 258 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:16,600 So, if you just put that in your phone before you even leave, and 259 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,500 you can just text us, anytime you feel unsafe or your, your, 260 00:14:21,500 --> 00:14:24,400 you have a Transit concern, or do you want us to check on 261 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,800 somebody? You just send a text to eight 262 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,100 seven, seven, seven, seven. Seven series takes that number 263 00:14:30,100 --> 00:14:31,200 and it goes straight to our dish. 264 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:34,600 Infection or so. We'll be speaking with a 265 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,700 dispatcher who is Direct contact with us. 266 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:40,800 So if there's something that is not right, or you feel and say, 267 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,600 Obviously you could something in progress, I could someone safety 268 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:46,900 is in Jeopardy, right away or that, I'm a progress. 269 00:14:46,900 --> 00:14:51,000 You would call novel one. That's not indisputable, but if 270 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,100 it's something that you're not really sure. 271 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:55,200 Maybe I should call, maybe I shouldn't call just text. 272 00:14:56,100 --> 00:15:00,400 It is no hot, no harm in being wrong, be prepared, right? 273 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:02,300 And again better Safe than sorry. 274 00:15:02,300 --> 00:15:05,000 And unfortunately, it's like, some of these headlines were 275 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,700 talking about, you know, who knows if they, maybe they'd 276 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:11,400 press that button and maybe, you know what I mean? 277 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,200 80 maybe could have should have would have, but just having 278 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:16,900 awareness and information that is better, right? 279 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,700 Welcome. And sometimes of you press the 280 00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:22,600 yellow stripe and then this guy trying attendant gets on the 281 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,500 train but they're still a little bit afraid to speak up depending 282 00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:29,100 on the situations with the text. Even just you can speak without 283 00:15:29,100 --> 00:15:32,900 speaking and nobody will be. We're at all, if there's a 284 00:15:32,908 --> 00:15:36,900 suspect on the train that you're just, we don't want to alert to 285 00:15:36,900 --> 00:15:39,500 the fact that you are contacting the police. 286 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:41,700 You can just text you just like every other paths, right? 287 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,000 I mean, it's such a really cool. Yeah, that way to like 288 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,100 specially, if someone's worked up, you eat, it's more discreet. 289 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,800 And especially these climate where, you know, back in the day 290 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,400 back in the day, it would be, oh, I'm going to call the police 291 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,900 and then that would just sort of stopped by Behavior but actually 292 00:15:58,900 --> 00:16:01,200 incidences where it's actually made it. 293 00:16:01,700 --> 00:16:06,400 I just kind of sets a person off of, just take your own safety 294 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:11,200 into account and people often ask me you should I should I 295 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:13,800 made a sugar video that they assault or should I do it? 296 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,000 Should I take it out and take pictures and while that does 297 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:20,400 help us with the investigation to have video or photos? 298 00:16:20,900 --> 00:16:23,700 Just think about your safety. So I wouldn't want you to do it. 299 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:25,700 If you check the tizen, seriously, abusive and you're 300 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:27,900 going to make things first. Yeah, if you're going to make 301 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:31,100 the suspect even angrier and they may come for you sometimes. 302 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:34,500 The best is really just taking a step back and trying to get 303 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:37,400 yourself out of the situation again with this mental health, a 304 00:16:37,408 --> 00:16:40,000 drug-induced psychosis. There's probably nothing. 305 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,700 You can say that's going to going to help. 306 00:16:43,300 --> 00:16:47,100 Oh yeah especially with dragons and beasts it closes and it's 307 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:52,900 not really Much, you can still try and raise me and do your, 308 00:16:52,900 --> 00:16:58,300 the escalation techniques. But with Michael health, I want 309 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:01,000 people to not be afraid of people with mental health. 310 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,300 It's not the whole parking. No, no. 311 00:17:04,099 --> 00:17:07,099 There's a lot of times, they, you know, crazy guy that 312 00:17:07,099 --> 00:17:08,700 yelling. We're talking to himself. 313 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:10,500 He said, he just really can't help it. 314 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,900 Yeah, we're station with that person. 315 00:17:13,900 --> 00:17:16,500 You'd find that you probably wouldn't feel unsafe but 316 00:17:16,700 --> 00:17:20,099 everyone's so afraid right now that they just 911 immediately 317 00:17:20,099 --> 00:17:22,800 when they see someone freaking out which is fine, you can still 318 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,300 all we're not saying go call, but just know that not every 319 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:28,200 person who suffers from mental health, is it? 320 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,100 No, it's situations. You have to use your best common 321 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:34,100 sense for each situation. I wanted to ask you something 322 00:17:34,100 --> 00:17:37,000 and then maybe you can explain. So I got I got a lot of comments 323 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:40,400 when I posted it and within the last two months you guys did a 324 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:43,900 pretty major like drug bust and gun bust and stuff. 325 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:47,400 I'm and and lot of people that commented to me like oh I didn't 326 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,000 know Transit Police had this. Authorities that if he can 327 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:53,200 explain to the listening audience, like the role of the 328 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,800 of your police force and the kind of the jurisdictional 329 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,100 powers that you guys have and things like that. 330 00:17:58,100 --> 00:18:00,800 Because it seems like they seem to be confused that you guys 331 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,500 were able to bust the a bunch of guns and drugs. 332 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,200 We get that a lot. What would be always dedicated 333 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:11,200 to Transit Police Force in Canada, the one and only we have 334 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:15,300 the same. So what we do is we Kelis the 335 00:18:15,300 --> 00:18:17,900 transit system, so in and around the transit system, but we are 336 00:18:17,908 --> 00:18:20,800 designated In the province of British Columbia. 337 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,400 We train at the Justice Institute with all of the 338 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,500 municipal police departments in the Lower Mainland. 339 00:18:25,500 --> 00:18:30,200 So all our training is the thing we have jurisdiction across all 340 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,400 the PC. So night just on the train are 341 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,900 not just on the buses. So we are giving him police 342 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:40,300 officers. So if we are policing the system 343 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:45,500 or were out in our police car and we witness a crime, yes, the 344 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:49,700 no matter where we are, we will investigate a date that crime 345 00:18:49,900 --> 00:18:53,800 and that is our roles. But it's always well, we work 346 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,600 mostly on the SkyTrain sometimes on the buses and see that. 347 00:18:58,100 --> 00:19:01,200 That is our Focus. We are still others. 348 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:06,100 And yes, yes, we have all the same Powers as a regular police 349 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:07,700 officer or jurisdiction, free flexor. 350 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:10,600 So yes, we can pull you over. Yes, we can see it guns. 351 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:16,500 Yes, we can do a search warrant and we can do, you know, gang 352 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:18,900 activity. We work very closely. 353 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,600 Lie with our jurisdictional placing partners. 354 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,200 And we have lots of officers from our department that are 355 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,900 seconded to Specialty sections. So gang task force The csto 356 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,900 traffic, we have a whole bunch of different officers that are 357 00:19:33,900 --> 00:19:37,500 working with, you know, they call the police, the rcep, all 358 00:19:37,500 --> 00:19:40,500 kinds of. We have to now that just finish 359 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:45,100 the undercover course. So we've got lots of really 360 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:47,700 great officers with the huge skill sets. 361 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:51,700 So that's this funny. That people say, still say that 362 00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:54,400 and I don't think it's ignorant. I think it's just they don't 363 00:19:54,400 --> 00:20:00,200 understand Greg. Even my mom asked me the same 364 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:16,200 thing and all that good stuff. 365 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:31,100 Action at occur on the system. So on the train in the station. 366 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:34,700 So what they were doing is these drug dealers were utilizing the 367 00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:37,700 transit system to carry their and deal their drugs from point 368 00:20:37,700 --> 00:20:39,800 A to point B and you think about it, it's genius, right. 369 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,600 Because you're not an equal cover way more ground. 370 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,200 So yeah, that's how that investigation started. 371 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,200 And that took months and months of undercover work, we did a 372 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:55,700 long search warrant and we, you know, discovered gang members 373 00:20:55,700 --> 00:20:58,800 from the PC. Gang conflict were involved and 374 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,300 along people higher up. So and that's investigation is 375 00:21:01,300 --> 00:21:04,100 still ongoing, but that's how we see those those guns. 376 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:08,400 And drugs is yes, we have the same Powers as a jurisdictional 377 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,400 police service, but that file started on the transit system. 378 00:21:12,700 --> 00:21:17,500 Not the first thing. Well, and we were talking a 379 00:21:17,508 --> 00:21:21,100 little bit before we started and we're having a conversation 380 00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:23,600 about the escalation of violence. 381 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,200 And there's been some major headlines on the SkyTrain to 382 00:21:26,208 --> 00:21:28,200 what are you guys doing? It says we're adding new 383 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:29,400 programs or I think. Yeah. 384 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:33,700 So during that time what we did is we pulled all officers that 385 00:21:33,700 --> 00:21:37,300 were in specialty units and we put them in uniform and we 386 00:21:37,300 --> 00:21:40,100 flooded the system. We have them on buses, we had 387 00:21:40,100 --> 00:21:44,200 them on SkyTrain, we have them in station while actively making 388 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,500 and what we do our officers. Do proactive patrolling. 389 00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:51,300 We were able to learn the system with more bodies with more Force 390 00:21:51,300 --> 00:21:55,400 officers. And that's not necessarily going 391 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,400 to prevent all crime. We are Realistic about that. 392 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,200 But people want to see police officers. 393 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,500 They want to see them on the trains. 394 00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:04,000 They want to see them at the station. 395 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,400 They want to see him on the buses. 396 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,400 And that's what we did. We had a lot, a lot of overtime. 397 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:13,300 Call-outs we had, you know we had lots of people on the system 398 00:22:13,300 --> 00:22:16,300 and it did it work visible deterrent. 399 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:21,300 Yeah, I think it did work. I think the tribes of system is 400 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,200 a safe place to be and it's designed to be safe with lots of 401 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,900 features to help keep you safe. And I think, Think we've seen 402 00:22:27,900 --> 00:22:32,700 sort of a Slowdown in, in the amount of violent crimes that 403 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:35,500 have been happening, and if you think about it, thousands of 404 00:22:35,508 --> 00:22:37,400 people ride that train every day, bro. 405 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:42,700 And a lot of times it's hyped up in the media, as, oh, another 406 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:49,400 stranger assault on translating. But the nature of our job is, He 407 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:50,900 salts are always going to be random. 408 00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:54,500 Yeah, strength is around your packed in with thousands of 409 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:57,000 straight years. So it's not shocking for us to 410 00:22:57,300 --> 00:23:01,500 to see, stranger assault, but I think because of our presence 411 00:23:01,500 --> 00:23:04,900 and, and because of our officers out there, you know, looking 412 00:23:04,900 --> 00:23:08,000 hard and engaging with the public, I think we've made a 413 00:23:08,008 --> 00:23:11,200 difference. And I think, with the decrease, 414 00:23:11,300 --> 00:23:13,200 in the amount of violent offenses, that we've seen in the 415 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,600 last couple weeks, I think that's terrific, that's Works. 416 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,300 We've also So we're really excited about a new program that 417 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:25,100 we created called our cutie safety officers. 418 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:30,800 So this program is we can roll it out in January and weirdly 419 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,900 enough hiring process. Hopefully we're going to have 420 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,800 the goal we have seven right now but the goal is to have 12 421 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,400 Community safety officers going to training and the rolled out 422 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:46,000 the next fall. So what a community safety 423 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,300 officer is is it's not a police officer. 424 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,900 Officer and it's not a security guard. 425 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:55,900 So these people are are people that are like the eyes and ears 426 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,700 of kind of, it's like an extra layer of security and protection 427 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:03,700 on the traffic system. So people are going to have a 428 00:24:03,700 --> 00:24:07,700 visual representation of feeling safer and secure so they'll be 429 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:11,100 able to respond to sort of low-risk called that don't 430 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,700 require the attendance of a police officer of a full-fledged 431 00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:17,800 police officer will be doing crowd control. 432 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:22,900 Fair Postmates Community event. Let's see them out and about on 433 00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:25,400 the train. So really excited to be rolling 434 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:30,400 that out and helping people not only feel safe, but right have 435 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,100 more of a presence in Stockton a warrant. 436 00:24:33,100 --> 00:24:35,200 The questions I want to ask you because a lot of times, you 437 00:24:35,208 --> 00:24:38,300 know, the nature of my platform. I get people that contact me 438 00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:40,900 after, you know, after something happens, right? 439 00:24:40,900 --> 00:24:43,800 So in sometimes they're actually the direct victim of the crime. 440 00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:47,200 So I wanted to ask you about, what if they're available, what 441 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:50,100 kind of like program Alms or resources are available for 442 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:53,700 victims of crimes of these, your victim of the crime. 443 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,400 First of all, we really encourage people to report. 444 00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:01,000 A lot of times, we'll see posting a post on social media 445 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:04,300 where someone says this happened to me, or I was sexually 446 00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:09,800 assaulted, or someone assaulted me or just anything and they're 447 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,100 just trying to bring awareness, but it's really important that 448 00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:16,300 they report it to the police because not only does it help 449 00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:19,200 us. Deploy our officers correctly 450 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,600 because we deploy our space-time statistics because we have 180 451 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,400 kilometers and we have over 1,800 square kilometers to 452 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,200 believe so and about two thousand buses. 453 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,100 So it's it's a lot. So I'm deployment is based on 454 00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:37,300 statistics, so if you don't report it, we don't get accurate 455 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:40,200 statistics. So I think that's super 456 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,100 important. And if you are a victim and you 457 00:25:43,100 --> 00:25:46,800 need someone to talk to you, we have taken Services, there's a 458 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,800 trained. They're paid and they're also 459 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,100 volunteer positions. They're not police officers 460 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:55,500 there, they're just strictly there for you to assist you 461 00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:58,600 super the court process. If that's what you decide to do. 462 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,700 If you just need someone to talk to, they're there to listen. 463 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:06,400 And always I always suggest always reach out to your own 464 00:26:07,100 --> 00:26:10,900 health care practitioner whether that be a medical doctor or 465 00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:14,300 mental health. It's okay to ask for help, it's 466 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:17,300 okay that you're not feeling comfortable. 467 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,700 Well, and it's okay. But you need to be able to reach 468 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:23,700 out to try and get that help that you need. 469 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:28,000 For sure, one of the things I wanted to ask because again, you 470 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,200 know, we talked a little bit about this to you know the kind 471 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,700 of the nature of policing though where you're kind of under more 472 00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:36,400 of a microscope and you do this, it's not right to do that, it's 473 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,700 not right. So I guess the question is like 474 00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:41,400 how do you balance? You know, being assertive, but 475 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,600 showing empathy and in these really and sometimes these very 476 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,300 tough situations like it's a real tight rope. 477 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:51,100 Yes! This how ya as a police officer 478 00:26:51,100 --> 00:26:52,700 because it's almost like this Balancing Act. 479 00:26:52,700 --> 00:26:54,900 If you're too heavy-handed you're going to Under the 480 00:26:54,908 --> 00:26:56,900 microscope. And if you're not heavy-handed 481 00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:59,800 enough, you might put you yourself might be put in danger. 482 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,100 So it's like that balance of assertiveness and empathy. 483 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:09,600 And think that is something that most police officers already 484 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,200 possess. I think it's something that's 485 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,900 pretty evident in the hiring process. 486 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,900 I know our recruiting team does a really great job at weeding 487 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:22,100 out people or or highlighting people who have this scalar show 488 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,600 the possibility that they might have that. 489 00:27:24,700 --> 00:27:32,600 It's this extra empathy for me, personally, I always say that 490 00:27:33,100 --> 00:27:36,500 the Amanda that you get in uniform, is the same amount of 491 00:27:36,508 --> 00:27:39,000 that you get out of you. So who I am at? 492 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,600 Work is who I am off duty while we're never really off duty but 493 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:43,700 you know what I mean? Yeah. 494 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:45,900 So I don't have to pretend to be anybody. 495 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,500 I don't have to pretend to be more aggressive. 496 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:54,100 I don't have to pretend to be super sort of, I think. it 497 00:27:54,100 --> 00:27:56,300 really just comes with experience and seeing the 498 00:27:56,300 --> 00:28:01,000 natural ability and I think it's one of the things that I I 499 00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:07,200 really pride myself on doing a lot of You kind of learn as you 500 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:13,200 go along and of course not every all will you'll have the ability 501 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,400 to sort of put your listening ears on and you know sit down 502 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,000 and have a real conversation with somebody. 503 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,900 I try and do that as often as possible. 504 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,800 Of course there are a lot of events where you are. 505 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:30,300 Go go go and you things are very Dynamic, but I think just 506 00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:35,800 remembering that people are people and I'm one of those 507 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,900 people. I always remember when I first 508 00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:48,000 started, That I was always told. You're going to meet people on 509 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,600 the worst days of it. Yeah, that's true. 510 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:56,500 And while I may have dealt with this exact scenario 100 times 511 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,200 even maybe 10 times. I say it. 512 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,200 It's the first time for them it maybe they'd never even spoken 513 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,400 with and talk to before. So I always remind myself don't 514 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,300 get complacent don't just treat it like oh God this is the tent 515 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:14,000 tent pole, the same thing, let's just get this over with. 516 00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:19,300 I think that is where a lot of Officers may go wrong a little 517 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:22,100 bit and not to say that my place in style of any better than 518 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:24,500 about system. But I think most of us are very 519 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,400 compassionate and empathetic, and I do remind myself every day 520 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,400 that, you know, what this person is really having a tough day and 521 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,900 the very worst day of my life, for sure. 522 00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:42,500 For me, it's just a dick. So I have to remember to treat 523 00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:48,900 each person into Hanabi and As a human in that moment, not just 524 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:52,200 another call, I think they for sure. 525 00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:54,400 Okay. We talked a little bit to this 526 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,500 kind of the nature to the serve, our society. 527 00:29:57,500 --> 00:30:01,800 No, there's more distrust for authority and police in general 528 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,000 and in certain like guess some groups that are more 529 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,200 marginalized. There's more of a distrust that 530 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,100 build-up can you think of times where you're able to build 531 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:13,300 Bridges through dialogue? Or it started off as distrust, 532 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:16,100 but you were able to kind of break through that. 533 00:30:16,300 --> 00:30:19,900 Wall of mistrust. I mean, this happens, every day. 534 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:25,700 This is an even more. So now, the negative light that 535 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,400 people have shown on police officers. 536 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,200 So for me, this happens, every day to think of something 537 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,100 specific. I remember I was living by 538 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:41,300 myself, and if you don't know, we working Partnerships here at 539 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,700 Transit place. So there's always two people to 540 00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:46,000 look far. So I was working by myself and 541 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,300 I, And I went to a call, I think it was it. 542 00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:54,500 Well, I'm being stationed in the west and I was talking to these 543 00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:56,600 people. They were alcohol involved. 544 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,900 So they were a little bit loud, a little bit of this, but 545 00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,700 nothing really criminal. So I'm just trying to get them 546 00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,800 to sort of settle and then go on their way because the last thing 547 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:06,900 I want to do is take you to jail. 548 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,000 So if you can just sort yourself out right and carry on then 549 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,900 carry on and I go give me a reason because if you can't 550 00:31:14,900 --> 00:31:17,400 behave yourself in public. If you're too intoxicated than 551 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,000 you will have to be arrested and I wasn't talking to these 552 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,300 people. I noticed Sort of the corner of 553 00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:26,100 my eye. A tear is that young men who 554 00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:29,600 sort of standing about 12 feet away and of course I'm always 555 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,600 looking officer safety to make sure that we don't stand behind 556 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,900 me because again I'm alone which is not a big deal but I just 557 00:31:37,300 --> 00:31:39,000 don't want any behind their safety. 558 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,400 Yeah of course. Well he says creeping sort of 559 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,900 closer and closer and so I'm thinking Hmm. 560 00:31:46,500 --> 00:31:49,000 This is Lisa's. Not it's not. 561 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,800 I don't like it. I don't like anything so I Send 562 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,400 these people on their way and I turn around and he's probably 563 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,600 about six feet away from, you know, and he's just staring at 564 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:00,200 me and so I think, okay, so maybe he needs something, so I 565 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,000 asked him. I said, are you okay? 566 00:32:02,100 --> 00:32:03,200 Do you need? Do you need any help? 567 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,900 And it would be just looked at me and he wants, it's hard to 568 00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:10,900 describe that look. So we looked at me and then he 569 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:16,100 looked down and at my Taser and then he looked back at me and 570 00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:20,400 that is usually a red flag. Yeah. 571 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,100 Because I want to check it out. My equipment usually. 572 00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:28,500 Oh, yeah. Well, this is not gonna go. 573 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:32,100 Well, I don't think so. I again, try and get out of him 574 00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:33,900 when he needs. I said, are you okay. 575 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:39,200 Do you need me to help you? And I could tell that he was 576 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,500 probably suffering some kind of mental health, or he was 577 00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:46,800 struggling in some way and he said to me, I need help. 578 00:32:46,900 --> 00:32:48,300 And I said, okay, that's perfect in here. 579 00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:50,000 What do you need to? What can I help you with? 580 00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:54,300 And he said, I need to go to the hospital, which usually means 581 00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:58,200 that they're having some kind of Crisis and when we apprehend 582 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,100 someone under the mental health act that have to either be a 583 00:33:01,108 --> 00:33:03,700 danger to themselves. So they either want to I'm in 584 00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:05,000 sales. So they want to enhance 585 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:10,300 endurance so I Had a conversation with him and I 586 00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:12,200 said, I'm going to be frank with you. 587 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,200 You're making me real nervous, looking at my equipment and he 588 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:19,200 said, I'm really sorry, I'm sorry. 589 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,800 And so I said, like, you and I could be sorry, like, I want to 590 00:33:21,808 --> 00:33:23,900 help you, you're not in any trouble, right? 591 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,200 So just building that Rapport brain, you know, letting him 592 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,300 know that yesterday you might be in a crisis or you might be 593 00:33:32,300 --> 00:33:35,600 having some very intrusive thought but I'm here to help. 594 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,300 I, I don't want. Take you to jail. 595 00:33:37,300 --> 00:33:41,300 I don't want to, you know, strap you down and inject medication 596 00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:42,900 into you. Like I just want to make sure 597 00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:44,100 that you get the help that you need. 598 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,800 So he said, yeah I want to go to the hospital so I said, I'm 599 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:48,300 against fine, that's good. I have a car. 600 00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:51,300 I can take you there. So we walked down to the police 601 00:33:51,300 --> 00:33:53,900 car and anybody that gets into my place. 602 00:33:53,900 --> 00:33:57,600 Bar has to be searched for it. Obviously, lose her Seco. 603 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:02,600 I give my good sir. We're kind of like look good but 604 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,700 I'm still sort of apprehensive. So I tell him, you know, for 605 00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:08,000 safety. I was handcuffed people that 606 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,000 rolling Block like this car and he said, okay, so I then got his 607 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,800 name and everything, and when I ran him on the police database, 608 00:34:14,900 --> 00:34:17,500 it turns out he is suicide by cop. 609 00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,900 Oh my God. He suffers from severe mental 610 00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:25,500 health, and tries to usually beat this officer into using 611 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:30,600 deadly force. And there is It comes also note 612 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,900 on this file that then, you know, and multiple opposite 613 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:36,699 response is required or recommended for dealing with 614 00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:38,199 this. It felt like God. 615 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,500 I was like, wow. Well and I was actually pretty 616 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:46,100 impressed with how I was able to sort of just communicate with 617 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:48,100 him. Yeah we thought second of all 618 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,500 he's a police officer but just as a human and I think that's 619 00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:52,600 super important is determined. Oh yeah. 620 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,000 The wrong approach. That could have been a time 621 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,800 bomb. I need and I could have been 622 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,000 everything that he wanted it to be. 623 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,800 But yeah we really do. I wanted to be like I could 624 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,000 sense that he just wanted someone to help him, but he 625 00:35:03,008 --> 00:35:05,700 didn't know how to ask for it. So that's fine. 626 00:35:05,700 --> 00:35:07,000 That's fine. We made it to the hospital. 627 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:12,500 I took him out of the police car and on handcuffed, and he wasn't 628 00:35:12,500 --> 00:35:15,900 in custody for anything, so like I wasn't required to go with 629 00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:18,000 him. But he looked at me and he said, 630 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,900 will you come with me? And I said, of course, I'll come 631 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:24,900 with little go to the ER together and he told me about 632 00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:30,000 how he is using drugs, he didn't know how to stop and he'd been 633 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,100 doing it for a long time. And this mental health suffered 634 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:35,100 and I said, you know what, you make sure that you go in there 635 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,800 and you're honest with the doctors and you get the help. 636 00:35:37,900 --> 00:35:40,600 You eat right? You need proper mental, health 637 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,200 care. And you know what? 638 00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:48,100 And I remember saying this because It's just still sticks, 639 00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:50,400 it's been years, I think it sticks in the back of my mind 640 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:52,100 and I just get, I just look in the eyes. 641 00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:55,400 At least I said, you know what I believe in you, I believe in you 642 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,300 because maybe you don't, no one else that maybe didn't have fun 643 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:02,300 name of the. He doesn't have friends, but I 644 00:36:02,300 --> 00:36:04,100 believe in you, I believe you can change. 645 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:07,700 I believe you can take a healthy and don't ever forget that. 646 00:36:08,100 --> 00:36:12,000 I believe me, well, he said and I never thought about it. 647 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,800 I left and I didn't you kill it again until months? 648 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:22,100 At least six months later. Another officer called me and 649 00:36:22,100 --> 00:36:25,700 said, do you know this person and he gave his name? 650 00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:28,400 I said, you have a deal with him like six months ago. 651 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,300 He said I ran into him and he said to me I want you to tell 652 00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:36,300 Amanda that you changed. That she changed my life. 653 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,500 Oh well, I found out for him that he quit drugs. 654 00:36:40,900 --> 00:36:45,700 Oh my God, that's good. He had housing. 655 00:36:46,500 --> 00:36:51,400 Wow, Well, that's good. Success story that's amazing and 656 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,500 specially of saying he wanted suicide by cop my God. 657 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,900 It's like the probably you're the worst case scenario. 658 00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:00,000 That's amazing. We know we live in this though. 659 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,500 We live in this, you know Vancouver it's a very diverse 660 00:37:02,500 --> 00:37:06,400 City during so many considerations cultures races 661 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,100 Creeds and things like that and and how does he feel like the 662 00:37:10,100 --> 00:37:15,800 the police force accommodates that the diversity of the city 663 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,600 of the different? The mall Multiple different 664 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,200 considerations of all the different communities even. 665 00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:24,500 I think diversity is so important, especially for a 666 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:28,300 police service. So for us, we really look at 667 00:37:28,300 --> 00:37:31,700 diversity and recruiting section and I think it's super important 668 00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:34,500 to represent the community that you pleased. 669 00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:38,200 So if you look back, you know, years and years and years are, 670 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:41,300 usually what you, what, you envisioned, when you think of a 671 00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:46,400 police officer is a white male. Paul white male, no other 672 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,700 languages just out there. Releasing an entire police 673 00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:53,400 force, full of them and we are so lucky here at translates to 674 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,900 have such a diverse amount of officers with ethnic groups 675 00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:01,900 languages women. I always promote women in 676 00:38:01,900 --> 00:38:04,800 policing because were a long time. 677 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,600 We were always told, you know why? 678 00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,000 Even a Mana. You got to be one of the guys, 679 00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:10,500 right? Did any of these other people? 680 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:12,700 I said and I'm here to tell you that you don't need to be any of 681 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:13,600 those things. Whoo. 682 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,200 Doggy Be anything because as a police force, there are so many 683 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,500 rules that we can bill and especially as women we have so 684 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:27,600 many innate abilities. That, that lend us to really 685 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:32,900 great policing whether he dies, collation, communication, that 686 00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:34,500 was always told, no, you can't have. 687 00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:36,600 You can't show any emotion, you can't. 688 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:40,500 But to me, I mean, why wouldn't I, why wouldn't I be re-enacted 689 00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:44,000 the people that I'm, you know, helping like complaining. 690 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,400 Victims like oh, why can't I show emotion? 691 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,700 Why can't, if they're sad, why can't I be sad? 692 00:38:48,700 --> 00:38:53,500 So I think with having differ City in a police force, you're 693 00:38:53,500 --> 00:38:59,200 able to help people in such a big way because he may be that 694 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,200 officer speaks their language on way. 695 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,900 I understand the Customs or tradition that of that culture 696 00:39:06,100 --> 00:39:10,200 that are really super important in an investigation or even just 697 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,800 invite. If someone is afraid to call the 698 00:39:11,808 --> 00:39:14,700 police for cultural region, reasons are Maybe they want to 699 00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,300 speak to someone who speaks Korean and you have all wet and 700 00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:22,400 it's so it's so interesting to see how well we can police with 701 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:29,100 all of these even lgbtq S2. Plus like we write, we love it. 702 00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:32,700 We think it, I think it makes such a great diverse Place 703 00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:34,100 apartment. And we're really lucky here to 704 00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:38,100 have all of those things. That's amazing, that ties into 705 00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:40,300 the next question. You're obviously you're a woman 706 00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:45,400 and and my platform as I said not, Ali, but I have a large, 707 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:49,300 you know, female audience and and so there might be women, 708 00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:51,800 listening that may want a career in law enforcement. 709 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:57,100 What advice would you give them? I would say even if for me it 710 00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,000 was something I always wanted to do ever since I was a child but 711 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:04,000 maybe for you it's sort of been in the back of your money. 712 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,000 Maybe you're doing a different career or maybe you've always 713 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,000 thought, you know what? I want to be a police officer 714 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,800 but maybe I'm not too old. Why not? 715 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:12,700 Why can't you be, you know, I don't do it. 716 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,300 Well, it can go for your dreams, you know, if you have an 717 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:19,800 ambitious. Personality or that you're, you 718 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,400 know, wanting to make a difference in the world or, you 719 00:40:22,408 --> 00:40:26,700 know, help people or chase that guys, I mean, when I was young I 720 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:29,300 just wanted to chase bad guys and change the world, right? 721 00:40:29,300 --> 00:40:31,400 Like that. That was just my allergy drag a 722 00:40:31,408 --> 00:40:35,200 car really fast like this iron and for young people who are 723 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,300 thinking about getting into faith in young women, you know 724 00:40:38,300 --> 00:40:42,100 what, make the right decisions? Volunteer with a community case 725 00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:46,400 station pick your friends appropriately, you know, don't 726 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:47,200 do drugs. Bugs. 727 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:49,200 I mean you hear that sometimes? Yeah, I'm drunk. 728 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,600 Like, we're all young and down me. 729 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:54,000 I'll make students day were and we're not hiring police officers 730 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,600 and are perfect, because know that, how would they even 731 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,000 connect with people, right? Well called, they have no idea 732 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,000 what struggle is or what? If they've never lived on their 733 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,700 own or even though they've never seen, you know, it's some sort 734 00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,400 of native experience in there like so won't ask you for you 735 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,500 want them. Relatable. 736 00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,200 You want people to people will relate only first? 737 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:16,800 Yeah, and I always tell the women. 738 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,100 Never, you know, we don't think you're too short or, you know, 739 00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:23,000 you're not fast enough or you're not strong enough for me. 740 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:28,000 If policing is not about physical strength or yes, you 741 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,000 will get into fights, that's unavoidable. 742 00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:33,700 Yes, you have to have some sort of wherewithal Returns what we 743 00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:36,100 train you. So really, I think it's super 744 00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:39,500 important to have other skills. Sure, nothing should Define 745 00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:41,800 yourself at or not. You're a good candidate based 746 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,500 on, you know, can I fight? I mean, that's the biggest small 747 00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:46,800 portion of what pieces and I think. 748 00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:50,200 We need to focus on the things that and the attributes at that, 749 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,800 were trying to emphasize the, are you good communicator. 750 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,500 All right, Elaine dishes. Are you a hard worker? 751 00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,000 Do you want to make a difference along? 752 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,100 Like think if you are any of those things or you're curious, 753 00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,900 go for it. Check out, you know, whatever 754 00:42:02,900 --> 00:42:06,900 Police Department not only, are you suitable for them, but are 755 00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:09,000 they suitable for you? So you don't associate 756 00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:12,900 researcher departments by now, which department stands out to 757 00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:16,600 you and just see just, you know, go on a ride-along requested. 758 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:18,400 Esteban the ride along and see it. 759 00:42:18,500 --> 00:42:21,300 This thing, it's for you, I think go for it. 760 00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:24,400 I think the more women the merrier I can shout from the 761 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,000 rooftops about ones if you like it. 762 00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:30,600 What is the the basic qualifications is to be 763 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,300 considered? Well for us apprecia. 764 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,200 Particle will be different for US. 19. 765 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:40,800 Of course, I school diploma. You have 30 credit, not just 30 766 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,400 post-secondary credit, but say you have, you know, 20, 767 00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,000 post-secondary credits and then you also have relevant work 768 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,600 experience. They're they're negotiable. 769 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:55,200 So You have to be a permanent resident, you have to have a 770 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,800 good driving abstract, you have to be able to pass a physical 771 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,900 exam. So we call it a Pulpit which is 772 00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:05,200 the police officer. Physical abilities tasks to run 773 00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:12,700 run that we have to do an intake interview polygraph There's a 774 00:43:12,707 --> 00:43:15,000 whole bunch of things that they just boarded the website and 775 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,700 just look up what the minimum qualifications. 776 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:23,100 Are you can see if you fit that bill but but no, it's a 777 00:43:23,107 --> 00:43:25,800 competitive process. So you want to make sure that 778 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,000 you not only fit those qualifications but he may exceed 779 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,500 and all you may have something that Is outstanding or 780 00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:34,900 something? That's not on that list. 781 00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:36,200 That you think? Oh, I don't know if that's 782 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,500 important. It's important, try to unfold 783 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,000 and a lot of people think. Oh, my post-secondary is not 784 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,700 Terminology that's fine. Blue we have sweet. 785 00:43:45,700 --> 00:43:49,300 Just hired a guy who was a climber in a different way if 786 00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:52,400 you have passed paramedics, we have nurses. 787 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,300 We have people who were servers, you know, that this Soul such a 788 00:43:56,300 --> 00:43:58,200 diverse group of people who have worked at it. 789 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,500 Like there's a farmer like there's so many different 790 00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,900 different people who have different life experiences and 791 00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:07,300 just in don't don't discount what you're like experience is 792 00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:11,000 based on just a list, you know. I think you want it bad enough, 793 00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,300 you will get It awesome and then maybe this list ended on this. 794 00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:19,800 Like again, let's get back to the ended on the safety thing. 795 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,700 Where what are some of the like, for, what would you advise? 796 00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:27,000 We just give people in general, about common sense safety when 797 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,300 they're out and about in the city. 798 00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:32,300 Like yeah. So again know your surroundings 799 00:44:33,700 --> 00:44:36,300 Make sure that you're aware of who's around you. 800 00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:41,800 If you're on the train, they'll the safety features yellow 801 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,200 strip. We also have any qualms on the 802 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:47,400 train, so you can actually enter column and speak directly to 803 00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:51,900 Communications that are texting service. 804 00:44:51,900 --> 00:44:53,800 Have that text number in your phone. 805 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,900 Another one that's really important and often overlooked 806 00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:01,200 is, if you're on the train, There's a train number like it, 807 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,400 right? And old and the top sort of 808 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,800 thing the car. And then it's also the doors 809 00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:09,500 that number will identify what car you're on. 810 00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:12,400 So like if you're texting and you say, you know, there's a 811 00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:17,300 crazy guy or the one passed out on train to 15, right, know you 812 00:45:17,300 --> 00:45:21,700 can press the system so that you get off the train and he still 813 00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:24,400 on the train. We can see if all generated 814 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,400 buses have a number to write about this. 815 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,100 Yeah. And they were both the driver 816 00:45:32,500 --> 00:45:35,100 right there and then they're also on the outside of the bus 817 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,900 at the front of the back. Okay. 818 00:45:36,900 --> 00:45:40,000 Wonderful, man. That it was, it was my pleasure. 819 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,700 Having you is for the second time. 820 00:45:41,700 --> 00:45:45,400 Hopefully, won't have to wait a year to have you on again and 821 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,400 pleasure was all mine, and I truly enjoyed this conversation. 822 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,000 I think you're doing an amazing job, and I think you're a real 823 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,200 credit to your police force. Truly enjoyed this conversation, 824 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,300 and thank you so much, thank you. 825 00:45:56,300 --> 00:45:59,900 That means a lot. Okay, cool. 826 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,600 I'll hold you to that. Yeah. 827 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,900 Okay, thank you so much. I'm gonna so I'm going to, I'm 828 00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:07,800 going to edit this part out, but I'm just going to say. 829 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,400 Yeah. So give me about a few days, 830 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,200 edit this. I got a little bit in the 831 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,300 pipeline but then I'll course I'll tag you in kind of stock. 832 00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:18,600 Funny and great marketing. Okay, well thank you so much. 833 00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,700 Okay, we'll take care. Enjoy your day again thank you 834 00:46:21,707 --> 00:46:22,400 so much.