1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,600 Account add me with her name and I said hi babe, she says hey, my 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:08,400 social was deleted. And I said, oh that's weird. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,840 And I will tell you that she'd had that that one Instagram for 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:15,600 years and years and years and years. 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:19,640 So her whole life was on there. Every picture of her and her 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:24,880 son, every picture of her, all her travels, thousands of 7 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:30,020 friends, everyone seen her. She was so popular, you know, 8 00:00:30,020 --> 00:00:33,540 and she had multiple businesses. So she shared a lot of her 9 00:00:33,540 --> 00:00:37,620 businesses on that page as well and she had tons of followers. 10 00:00:37,620 --> 00:00:40,420 And I said, Oh no, why did they delete you? 11 00:00:40,420 --> 00:00:45,100 And she said I I'm not sure that was the So with this first new 12 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:49,060 Instagram and then we we chatted a little bit and I said did you 13 00:00:49,060 --> 00:00:51,700 get my birthday message? And she said no, babe, my social 14 00:00:51,700 --> 00:00:54,660 got deleted and I said okay here, I'll go into it and I'll 15 00:00:54,660 --> 00:00:55,940 screenshot it and I'll send it to you. 16 00:00:55,940 --> 00:01:01,200 So that's what I did. And in that message was, hey, 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:02,880 did he do it in front of your son? 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,640 And she didn't reply to that. She just replied, Aw, I love you 19 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:07,760 so much. Thanks. 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,080 Thank you my Angel. And we've had it a little bit 21 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:18,440 And then a couple days had gone by and again this new P0V 0X0 22 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:20,840 account was adding me and I said, what the heck is going on 23 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:22,720 here? And so I messaged her and I said 24 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,600 I'm not, I don't feel comfortable what is going on. 25 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,000 They wouldn't keep. Just this is not random. 26 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:33,040 Somebody is is doing this to you that knows you and she says no 27 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:38,240 babe, you know it, it's just I've I've broken the laws on 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:42,360 Instagram And here she sends me a screenshot of the deactivation 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:45,040 from Instagram saying, hey, we've deactivated your account 30 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,840 for this reason and it basically says I still have it. 31 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,400 It says for not following the the rules. 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:56,200 Guidelines, yes. And so I I still said I'm not 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:59,040 buying it. But it did say that the e-mail 34 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,520 was from the day before and I don't know what, Maybe someone 35 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,560 had been reporting it. I don't know how Instagram 36 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,040 works. I'm not good with social media 37 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,240 at all. Do you think someone was May who 38 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:12,520 was making these fake accounts? You think they weren't making 39 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:14,880 fake accounts? She was really making the new 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,440 account. Oh. 41 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,880 OK, OK, someone was having her accounts deleted. 42 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,080 Oh, OK. That's strange. 43 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,760 And she truly, I don't know if she truly thought it was. 44 00:02:23,920 --> 00:02:27,800 It was Instagram saying that she did something wrong and so then 45 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:29,680 she said to me it's my IP address. 46 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:30,720 What? What? 47 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,440 So just to back up for a SEC, she said she had it when 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Instagram started. So she had it for years, Yes. 49 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:41,080 And did she ever post anything that would be over the top that 50 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:42,840 would get her in trouble? The community guidelines and 51 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,720 your memory? No. 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:45,720 No. God no. 53 00:02:46,140 --> 00:02:49,300 If yeah posted anything, it was crying out for help writing sad 54 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:52,860 messages, little quotes about how just like this cat go on 55 00:02:52,860 --> 00:02:55,700 forever and you just keep being strong and stuff like that. 56 00:02:55,740 --> 00:02:57,540 Never. So generally, she's Instagram 57 00:02:57,540 --> 00:03:01,020 record her life, yes. What she was doing, her trips, 58 00:03:01,020 --> 00:03:04,780 her family, her friends, the places that she went to. 59 00:03:05,500 --> 00:03:08,300 She wasn't posting like crazy content that would put her in 60 00:03:08,300 --> 00:03:11,500 the crosshairs of Instagram and your memory. 61 00:03:11,810 --> 00:03:13,130 Okay. So that's strange. 62 00:03:13,130 --> 00:03:15,530 That's strange. But her main account though her 63 00:03:15,530 --> 00:03:18,290 main account that she had for the longest time, is deleted, 64 00:03:18,410 --> 00:03:26,570 deleted, and every picture of her being abused is now black. 65 00:03:26,890 --> 00:03:30,250 It shows that there's a photo there coming from her end, but 66 00:03:30,250 --> 00:03:32,530 it's black and it has a white arrow on it and you try and 67 00:03:32,530 --> 00:03:34,450 click on it and it does nothing. Weird. 68 00:03:34,450 --> 00:03:39,010 That's so strange. So, and everyone's saying, oh, 69 00:03:39,010 --> 00:03:41,250 we can never get those back. And you know, that's in the 70 00:03:41,250 --> 00:03:43,770 detective's hands now. And they're trying to figure all 71 00:03:43,770 --> 00:03:45,570 this out because her phone's been stolen. 72 00:03:46,250 --> 00:03:48,770 Oh, so now also her phone's missing, right too. 73 00:03:48,810 --> 00:03:53,930 Yes, right. So she gets this new Instagram 74 00:03:53,930 --> 00:03:59,290 and she's, hey, I'm in Thailand and I said, oh, where's your 75 00:03:59,290 --> 00:04:02,010 baby? And she said he's with me. 76 00:04:02,010 --> 00:04:05,690 And I said I just sent her that like evil eye hand and I said 77 00:04:05,690 --> 00:04:09,080 wow, how amazing. I said babe enjoy. 78 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:10,240 I love you so much. What? 79 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,160 Was the timeline of this though just for the audience? 80 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,880 I understand the timeline of the events of what you're talking 81 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,079 about right now, What kind of time stamp it? 82 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,840 I wanna say in the middle of May she went. 83 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,120 Okay I. Can get the previous before she 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,080 passed away. Then she had only been home like 85 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,680 5 days or a week at this point when she passed. 86 00:04:32,840 --> 00:04:39,290 Okay from the Thailand trip. And and then one of the charges 87 00:04:39,290 --> 00:04:42,970 that Danny was stalking, So he, in your opinion or 88 00:04:43,490 --> 00:04:46,850 understanding, he was actively stalking her. 89 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:49,730 Oh, harassing her left and right. 90 00:04:50,170 --> 00:04:54,890 Wow, OK, so from my understanding, he didn't get 91 00:04:54,890 --> 00:04:57,970 bail, so he's currently locked up, yes? 92 00:04:58,290 --> 00:05:00,290 OK. And then there was some issues 93 00:05:00,290 --> 00:05:02,210 with the family of regarding the child. 94 00:05:02,250 --> 00:05:05,680 Yes, in court. It is all over the news that his 95 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:12,800 family was there supporting him. Sadly enough, you know you can. 96 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,240 You can believe your family, your blood, whatever you want to 97 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,080 call it. But it doesn't make it right. 98 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,800 Or in my opinion, it makes it very strange that his family, 99 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:28,240 his mother, wouldn't reach out to Tania's mom to say hey, so 100 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,280 sorry about the loss of your daughter and our daughterinlaw, 101 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:34,120 you know? Anything I could do, please let 102 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,200 me know. But his family's full of abuse. 103 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,240 His mother is abused by his father. 104 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,640 She's probably scared of her son and and this is now what we're 105 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:46,160 left with. But yes, the the the child. 106 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:48,960 Tanya's son at Danny's son as well. 107 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,640 So where is the child living now? 108 00:05:54,640 --> 00:06:00,360 Done with Danny's mother. OK, so the grandma. 109 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:04,440 The grandma has the custody of the child at the currently, yes. 110 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,920 This got large media attention. Australia. 111 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:11,200 There was a candlelight visual in Australia. 112 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,680 She was a very beautiful woman. Everyone loved her. 113 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,240 She had a great personality. A lot of people are heartbroken. 114 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,400 The community's heartbroken. They all came together. 115 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:21,040 They had a beautiful candlelight visual. 116 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:26,200 You held one in Surrey and there's been an outpouring of 117 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,400 grief and support. What's next then? 118 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:35,110 No, I've talked to a lot of her friends there, her mother and 119 00:06:35,110 --> 00:06:39,470 father here. I guess what's next is her dad 120 00:06:39,470 --> 00:06:44,550 is currently in Australia working with the detectives and 121 00:06:44,550 --> 00:06:47,830 the police. Just gather the last bit of 122 00:06:48,110 --> 00:06:51,350 evidence of her life, you know, figure out what the next step is 123 00:06:51,350 --> 00:06:55,710 legally. They are obviously looking at 124 00:06:55,710 --> 00:07:01,030 the police in this situation because of the response time and 125 00:07:01,030 --> 00:07:05,430 the the lack of, I guess you can call it care or putting her on a 126 00:07:05,430 --> 00:07:09,190 priority. So I'm not sure. 127 00:07:09,190 --> 00:07:13,830 I'm just waiting to hear. I'm still gathering evidence. 128 00:07:14,150 --> 00:07:17,070 People are messaging me saying, hey, this is the conversation 129 00:07:17,070 --> 00:07:19,550 Tanya and I last had. She had reached out saying like, 130 00:07:19,630 --> 00:07:22,830 hey, I'm with the narcissist and I'm trying to leave and I'm back 131 00:07:22,830 --> 00:07:24,670 in Vancouver now to gain my strength. 132 00:07:24,670 --> 00:07:27,550 And it actually did gain her her strength and she moved out. 133 00:07:28,130 --> 00:07:33,290 And so, yeah, I think, you know, from my understanding, again, 134 00:07:33,290 --> 00:07:36,650 not being a detective, they are working hard. 135 00:07:37,450 --> 00:07:39,810 We're trying to have patience, you know, to act. 136 00:07:39,810 --> 00:07:42,210 This seems like, hey, this is like, so obvious. 137 00:07:42,210 --> 00:07:43,850 Like what do you mean you haven't charged him? 138 00:07:44,330 --> 00:07:47,770 They really have to make sure they have a solid open shut 139 00:07:47,770 --> 00:07:50,410 case, yes. So I think that's where we're 140 00:07:50,410 --> 00:07:54,050 at. And again, I'm just trying to 141 00:07:54,050 --> 00:07:58,140 give support to everyone that loved her so dearly and 142 00:07:58,140 --> 00:08:01,100 especially her parents who are now left without their child. 143 00:08:02,460 --> 00:08:04,420 Well, Amber, she's lucky to have you as a friend. 144 00:08:04,420 --> 00:08:08,180 I'm sure she's shining down and supporting you from above like 145 00:08:08,180 --> 00:08:12,860 an Angel. This is an awful tragedy and the 146 00:08:12,860 --> 00:08:15,540 worst possible outcome. Absolutely the worst possible 147 00:08:15,540 --> 00:08:18,140 outcome. I wanna touch on a couple things 148 00:08:18,220 --> 00:08:21,990 before we end this conversation. We've done some media interviews 149 00:08:21,990 --> 00:08:25,910 and they felt that they weren't very accurate and reporting on 150 00:08:25,910 --> 00:08:28,910 what you had to say and maybe you can clear that up. 151 00:08:29,030 --> 00:08:33,590 Yeah, so definitely of the Australian news, they actually 152 00:08:33,590 --> 00:08:36,830 were here for the candlelight in Vancouver and were absolutely 153 00:08:37,190 --> 00:08:39,030 amazing. I feel that they're 154 00:08:39,030 --> 00:08:42,830 knowledgeable, they care, they were very helpful. 155 00:08:43,309 --> 00:08:46,960 I feel like they got a good message across and the global 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,880 was kind of, I wasn't very happy with it, It what it is, what it 157 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,000 is like they had stated that I was holding a a candlelight when 158 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:58,240 in reality I was actually doing more of a rally against domestic 159 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,480 violence and that was never put on the news. 160 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,440 And the time that I was holding it was never put on the news. 161 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,600 It just said, hey, you know, she's going to be holding a 162 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,360 candlelight for Tanya in Surrey at Holland Park tomorrow. 163 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,120 Right. But let me say what time Okay, 164 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,920 that's that's an important fact, right? 165 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,200 Yeah, because someone go over there, when are they supposed to 166 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,560 come if they wanted to attend? So that could have, that could 167 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:21,120 have helped bringing more people. 168 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,760 Yes. And again, I never had Facebook, 169 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,400 I've never spoken publicly, I've never done any of this. 170 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,160 Or you're. Doing an amazing job. 171 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,140 Thank you. So having to get a Facebook, 172 00:09:33,140 --> 00:09:37,100 having to try and add these groups, I was writing the the 173 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:40,060 Surrey Women's Abuse Center and doing all these things, trying 174 00:09:40,060 --> 00:09:42,580 to reach out to whoever I could to get her story out there, to 175 00:09:42,580 --> 00:09:46,660 get help, to get people to come and and protest against domestic 176 00:09:46,660 --> 00:09:49,540 violence. That didn't happen, but you know 177 00:09:49,540 --> 00:09:52,980 what, the people that loved her, they were there and 178 00:09:52,980 --> 00:09:54,460 unfortunately something couldn't make it. 179 00:09:55,140 --> 00:09:58,780 We are going to be holding another event for her more more 180 00:09:58,780 --> 00:10:01,660 towards domestic violence. I have one of her friends that's 181 00:10:01,660 --> 00:10:03,700 reached out and is is willing to help me. 182 00:10:04,580 --> 00:10:08,260 So we're going to do that. But in in specific the Daily 183 00:10:08,260 --> 00:10:10,620 Hive. They were the last person to 184 00:10:10,620 --> 00:10:14,980 contact me and this was just a couple days ago. 185 00:10:14,980 --> 00:10:18,860 They contacted me saying hey Amber writing a report on this 186 00:10:19,140 --> 00:10:22,260 story. We hear you know Tanya and we 187 00:10:22,260 --> 00:10:23,860 would just like to clarify a couple things. 188 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:26,340 Can we please speak to you? And I said yeah, no problem. 189 00:10:27,530 --> 00:10:31,610 Little did I know they had already published a their side 190 00:10:31,610 --> 00:10:33,290 or whatever they thought was true. 191 00:10:33,690 --> 00:10:36,530 I have people calling me, texting me freaking out, crying, 192 00:10:36,530 --> 00:10:39,050 saying Oh my gosh, like what have they done? 193 00:10:39,050 --> 00:10:42,010 Like they've completely twisted the story as like basically this 194 00:10:42,010 --> 00:10:46,970 girl was traveling to Australia and with her son and she got 195 00:10:47,210 --> 00:10:50,410 killed and now she didn't have travelers insurance and or life. 196 00:10:51,910 --> 00:10:53,870 What? Yeah, life insurance. 197 00:10:53,910 --> 00:10:55,910 And it's like so. Let's put back that up again so 198 00:10:55,910 --> 00:10:57,470 there cuz I didn't read the article. 199 00:10:57,470 --> 00:10:59,230 I remember you sent me the screenshot. 200 00:10:59,590 --> 00:11:02,390 I'm not trying to be disparaging, but their take on 201 00:11:02,390 --> 00:11:05,590 it or twist on it was she traveled to Australia, didn't 202 00:11:05,590 --> 00:11:08,830 have travels insurance and then met some guy and got killed. 203 00:11:09,030 --> 00:11:12,830 It's basically what everyone's saying and the comments are just 204 00:11:12,830 --> 00:11:14,950 horrid. It's people that are uneducated 205 00:11:15,150 --> 00:11:18,880 hide behind a computer. Just yeah, and. 206 00:11:19,560 --> 00:11:21,240 Tell me about trolls. Ha ha. 207 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,480 We could have a four hour conversation about trolls. 208 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,560 They're probably abusers theirself. 209 00:11:25,560 --> 00:11:28,280 And this is what them off. It's just disgusting behavior. 210 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:33,160 So I had written her, so she called me and I had a 211 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,360 conversation with her. She seemed lovely, she really 212 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,720 did. She seemed very empathetic. 213 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,240 Listened to my side, prayed, said I I really hope you know, 214 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,840 justice is served. Da da da da da this that the 215 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,940 other she has never written anything that I said. 216 00:11:46,940 --> 00:11:51,780 She has not made a new post. She posted this thing basically 217 00:11:51,780 --> 00:11:55,500 with a picture saying Tanya's family is raising funds for a 218 00:11:55,500 --> 00:11:57,500 burial for Tanya. What? 219 00:11:58,540 --> 00:12:02,060 No actually we we didn't. Her family never even. 220 00:12:02,060 --> 00:12:04,500 And it says her family started a GoFundMe. 221 00:12:04,500 --> 00:12:05,820 Her family didn't start a GoFundMe. 222 00:12:06,140 --> 00:12:08,980 Her family has never met or knows who the person that 223 00:12:08,980 --> 00:12:12,440 started that GoFundMe is. You know, bless her heart and I 224 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,120 pray that you know that is one of her best friends and she is 225 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,840 just. Listening to Go Fund Me in 226 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,920 Australia, I think you've talked about doing a second one local 227 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:24,240 and maybe explain what the go Fund me here and what it's for 228 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,080 and what with the potion, you know, getting that all set up by 229 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,040 tomorrow. I was just waiting to hear more 230 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,640 from what's going on in Australia. 231 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:37,040 But at the end of the day, you know, her parents are left with 232 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,640 memories of her and then their grandson. 233 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:43,160 And they really want to make sure that Zayn does have a 234 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,880 little bit of a hopeful future. It's going to take a lot of 235 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,640 therapy. It's there's circumstances that 236 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,680 need to be figured out. But this isn't easy for a child, 237 00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:54,640 right? So you want to try it, you know, 238 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:58,680 do what Tanya was doing and and raise some money to give to him 239 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,920 for when he's, you know, give him, make him a trust fund and 240 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,600 give it to him when he's older so that he has a little bit of 241 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,520 help, the help he's never going to have from his mother. 242 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:13,640 And it's directly, you know, for that reason her parents are 243 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,800 going to be going into some debt. 244 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Well for sure it's international, right? 245 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,800 The travel to Australia must be super expensive and then having 246 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,200 to get a lawyer that's couldn't untangle the international 247 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,240 aspect of it, the Canadian to Australian jurisdiction. 248 00:13:32,230 --> 00:13:35,390 Recovering the body and bringing it home, the burial, the 249 00:13:35,430 --> 00:13:39,230 funeral, the memorial, and then, like he said, therapy for the 250 00:13:39,230 --> 00:13:41,590 child. This child has witnessed 251 00:13:41,590 --> 00:13:44,550 something that no child should ever witness. 252 00:13:44,550 --> 00:13:47,630 And that in itself is monster. What, Left for over 20 hours 253 00:13:47,630 --> 00:13:50,510 with his mother's deceased body? Unacceptable. 254 00:13:52,110 --> 00:13:54,510 It happened on his birthday. You know, that day for the rest 255 00:13:54,510 --> 00:13:55,390 of his life. He's. 256 00:13:55,470 --> 00:13:57,110 How can you be happy? How can you? 257 00:13:57,190 --> 00:13:58,990 Oh my. God, though, every birthday now 258 00:13:58,990 --> 00:14:00,910 is going to be tainted. So there's a there's a lot of 259 00:14:00,910 --> 00:14:04,150 things just the way it was worded, the way it was presented 260 00:14:04,150 --> 00:14:07,870 was basically and every comment says like, oh this living a high 261 00:14:07,870 --> 00:14:10,750 lifestyle and and you can't even get life insurance when you have 262 00:14:10,750 --> 00:14:12,710 a kid and blah blah blah traveling. 263 00:14:15,670 --> 00:14:17,230 Even she did get travel insurance. 264 00:14:12,910 --> 00:14:15,430 Maybe you should have got travel insurance and it's like but. 265 00:14:17,230 --> 00:14:19,510 How would travel insurance saved her life? 266 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:21,070 That's that's the question I want to know. 267 00:14:21,390 --> 00:14:23,750 Well, they're saying that her family wouldn't have to be 268 00:14:23,750 --> 00:14:25,750 raising money for funds for her burial. 269 00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:28,630 But The thing is, is travelers traveling. 270 00:14:28,750 --> 00:14:32,420 That was her address. Right, yeah. 271 00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:35,540 Because as far as I know from what you're saying, she was a 272 00:14:35,540 --> 00:14:38,860 resident of Australia and she's. And just for the audience, to 273 00:14:38,860 --> 00:14:40,540 Claire, for the audience. How long did she live in 274 00:14:40,540 --> 00:14:43,260 Australia? For 10 years. 10 years. 275 00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:45,820 When you live somewhere for 10 years, you're not buying travel 276 00:14:45,820 --> 00:14:47,380 insurance. They wouldn't even give it. 277 00:14:47,420 --> 00:14:50,420 To you probably kind of landed immigrant status for in Canada. 278 00:14:50,420 --> 00:14:52,780 That would have been like the status that she would have had 279 00:14:53,060 --> 00:14:55,620 if she was Australian and met someone here. 280 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,000 Until she got, she got her citizenship. 281 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,640 The the classification is a landed immigrant status, right? 282 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,040 So I don't think she would even qualify for travel insurance. 283 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:06,880 This is my rudimentary understanding. 284 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:09,520 Maybe some expert can set me straight. 285 00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:13,440 But yeah, I know the comments are are always concerning, Like, 286 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:17,160 even on my Facebook page I, you know, I did a post for her and 287 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:19,040 people were like, oh, so glamorous. 288 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,000 Yeah. And I just delete like. 289 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,000 What does that have to do with it? 290 00:15:22,310 --> 00:15:24,710 And you're just jealous because she was a more attractive than 291 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:26,190 you? Yeah, and you know what? 292 00:15:26,230 --> 00:15:27,950 I We loved that glamour about her. 293 00:15:27,950 --> 00:15:31,230 She was a true trendsetter. She was a fashionista. 294 00:15:31,230 --> 00:15:35,590 She loved being beautiful. And she was, until the very last 295 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:37,990 second of her life that. Shouldn't matter. 296 00:15:37,990 --> 00:15:40,910 And you know, again, like people saying, oh, but did she do drugs 297 00:15:40,910 --> 00:15:43,390 and drink It meant well, even if she's like I said to you and 298 00:15:43,390 --> 00:15:46,190 began this podcast. If she was drinking Jack Daniels 299 00:15:46,190 --> 00:15:48,390 for 24 hours straight and then 8 ball. 300 00:15:48,820 --> 00:15:50,940 Oh yeah, that gives her the right to get beat up and killed. 301 00:15:50,940 --> 00:15:53,180 Yeah, right. Regardless the fact of the truth 302 00:15:53,180 --> 00:15:55,780 of what actually happened here. Totally. 303 00:15:55,820 --> 00:16:00,020 So this is a vicious we all, you know, do things that I'm sure a 304 00:16:00,020 --> 00:16:02,780 lot of people don't approve of. But to each their own. 305 00:16:03,620 --> 00:16:04,780 For sure. And you know what? 306 00:16:04,900 --> 00:16:07,220 A people are allowed to live their lifestyle the way they 307 00:16:07,220 --> 00:16:10,300 want without judgment, as long as they're not hurting people. 308 00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:13,180 In this case, she got hurt by someone that couldn't control 309 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:15,020 themselves, and she'd obviously this. 310 00:16:15,020 --> 00:16:18,430 To recap for the audience. She moved away. 311 00:16:18,430 --> 00:16:21,150 She got her own place. This guy was actively stalking 312 00:16:21,150 --> 00:16:22,550 her. He was very dangerous. 313 00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:25,950 Obviously she made a call. They couldn't find where she 314 00:16:25,950 --> 00:16:27,950 was, they couldn't help her and it was too late. 315 00:16:27,950 --> 00:16:31,350 For all the narcissistic abuse podcasts I've made all the 316 00:16:31,350 --> 00:16:34,950 guests I interviewed. This is the ultimate worst 317 00:16:34,990 --> 00:16:38,630 outcome. And This is why I feel more like 318 00:16:38,990 --> 00:16:42,070 energized to even go even deeper into the subject and try to 319 00:16:42,070 --> 00:16:43,950 understand more about it. Because. 320 00:16:44,610 --> 00:16:47,010 This shouldn't have happened. Now there's a child without 321 00:16:47,010 --> 00:16:50,290 their mother and parents who lost their beautiful daughter 322 00:16:50,290 --> 00:16:52,090 and you who lost your beautiful friend. 323 00:16:52,090 --> 00:16:54,930 So you know it's it's the worst absolute outcome Paul. 324 00:16:54,930 --> 00:16:58,570 You know, and I I I must get this in the media's attention as 325 00:16:58,570 --> 00:17:03,650 well that the night of the this horrific incident happened one 326 00:17:03,650 --> 00:17:06,810 of her good girlfriends was actually at her place until 8:30 327 00:17:06,810 --> 00:17:09,650 PM. She called for help around 11:42 328 00:17:10,010 --> 00:17:13,050 and you know she's given a statement and she's she's 329 00:17:13,050 --> 00:17:16,690 cooperating. But her testament is that Tanya 330 00:17:16,690 --> 00:17:18,890 was in a great mood and that like they were having so much 331 00:17:18,890 --> 00:17:21,849 fun and she they would like nothing there. 332 00:17:21,849 --> 00:17:25,690 There was an 8 balls of coke and stuff going on that night. 333 00:17:25,690 --> 00:17:28,050 She had her son and they were just having a great night. 334 00:17:28,050 --> 00:17:33,050 She left around 8:30 PM and then unfortunately he attended that 335 00:17:33,170 --> 00:17:36,530 that unit so. Yeah, I know. 336 00:17:36,530 --> 00:17:39,170 It's just just truly terrible. Is there anything any other 337 00:17:39,170 --> 00:17:43,140 statement or anything you'd like to make just against the cycle 338 00:17:43,140 --> 00:17:45,780 of abuse domestic violence? Like people need to educate 339 00:17:45,780 --> 00:17:48,420 themselves. Any victim suffering like I pray 340 00:17:48,420 --> 00:17:53,460 people start reaching out there is help you you just we got to 341 00:17:53,460 --> 00:17:56,660 get over the the bump of being scared because I think that's 342 00:17:56,660 --> 00:18:00,460 what holds a lot of us back. We think that the consequences 343 00:18:00,460 --> 00:18:02,820 are are going to be worse than the actual help. 344 00:18:04,700 --> 00:18:08,580 So yeah, I'm I'm devastated for her, for her family. 345 00:18:09,650 --> 00:18:13,530 Most importantly her son. We can't get tiny back and 346 00:18:13,530 --> 00:18:17,930 that's what's driving me to keep fighting and and pray for for 347 00:18:17,930 --> 00:18:20,450 justice so her family can somewhat heal. 348 00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:23,170 You'll never heal from there's a piece of you that will have some 349 00:18:23,170 --> 00:18:25,650 peace knowing that someone is held accountable. 350 00:18:25,690 --> 00:18:28,450 I really appreciate you speaking to me Mark. 351 00:18:29,450 --> 00:18:33,250 This hasn't been easy as the days go on I'm I'm she know she 352 00:18:33,250 --> 00:18:35,850 really is the one giving me the strength and that's who she was. 353 00:18:35,850 --> 00:18:39,560 The strongest, most beautiful, caring, loving mother I'd ever 354 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,520 met. She's she's here with me because 355 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,160 there's no way I've lost people in my life and I've never gone 356 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,600 on the news. I've never done these things. 357 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:51,840 I, you know, I I lay down, I cry, and I just, I move on with 358 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,240 life. I will not move on until until 359 00:18:55,240 --> 00:18:57,800 this is this is dealt with properly. 360 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,520 For sure, and you know, like I said to you know, for someone 361 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:04,220 who you know I. Who experienced the loss and, 362 00:19:04,220 --> 00:19:07,140 you know, went through the whole roller coaster of emotion and 363 00:19:07,140 --> 00:19:09,980 spectrum of grief and stuff. I can't emphasize this. 364 00:19:09,980 --> 00:19:11,460 You're doing an amazing job, Amber. 365 00:19:11,460 --> 00:19:13,380 But please don't forget yourself. 366 00:19:13,380 --> 00:19:14,820 Care. Take care of yourself. 367 00:19:14,820 --> 00:19:17,300 Take time for yourself. Do the things that are important 368 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:19,700 to you because they will renew you and then you'll be stronger 369 00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:22,060 for the fight. I'm extremely sorry for 370 00:19:22,060 --> 00:19:24,940 everything you've been through and I admire your strength and 371 00:19:24,940 --> 00:19:28,300 determination to get justice. There's has to be a good outcome 372 00:19:28,300 --> 00:19:29,420 of this. There's always has to be a 373 00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:32,520 silver outline. Her death should have been 374 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,760 preventable. Maybe it can help spread 375 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:40,000 awareness and prevent someone else from having to be in the 376 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,880 situation. Domestic violence can happen to 377 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:44,720 men. It can happen to women, but 378 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:48,320 obviously it happens some more women and man or a woman out 379 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,360 there or whatever your gender that you identify with. 380 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,360 It's important to get help and for your safety. 381 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,840 The earliest signs, even though it's hard at the earliest stages 382 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,840 of red flags, listen to red flags, listen to your gut 383 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,160 instinct. In my situation, I wish I had 384 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,120 time to to back up and see the picture. 385 00:20:07,120 --> 00:20:10,320 But in in my case it was a such a crazy tornado. 386 00:20:11,090 --> 00:20:13,690 That it was just like you just feel like you're in a world 387 00:20:13,690 --> 00:20:16,290 when, and I think in a lot of these situations, it's similar, 388 00:20:16,290 --> 00:20:18,930 right? And it's quite overwhelming to 389 00:20:18,930 --> 00:20:21,930 the person until it's too late for other people who've been 390 00:20:21,930 --> 00:20:25,610 through this and maybe they're just recovering from the trauma. 391 00:20:26,090 --> 00:20:27,130 Do yourself. Work. 392 00:20:27,290 --> 00:20:29,650 Build yourself. Do things that are important to 393 00:20:29,650 --> 00:20:32,010 be the best version of that you can be. 394 00:20:32,010 --> 00:20:34,730 Especially if you have kids and family, other people that rely 395 00:20:34,730 --> 00:20:39,020 on you, right? Well, thank you so much, Mark. 396 00:20:39,020 --> 00:20:40,820 And I look forward to speaking to you again with you. 397 00:20:41,180 --> 00:20:43,660 Yeah, for sure. You can come on the platform as 398 00:20:43,660 --> 00:20:45,140 well. This story will progress. 399 00:20:45,140 --> 00:20:48,020 And yeah, my platform is completely open. 400 00:20:48,020 --> 00:20:51,260 My platform's your platform, Amber Okay, I appreciate it. 401 00:20:51,860 --> 00:20:53,780 So, yes, I appreciate you very much. 402 00:20:53,940 --> 00:20:55,180 No, we'll speak soon. Okay. 403 00:20:55,180 --> 00:20:55,860 Thanks. So much. 404 00:20:55,860 --> 00:20:57,700 Have a lovely day. You too. 405 00:20:57,780 --> 00:20:58,380 Take care. Bye.