Welcome to the Vancouver. True Crime podcast, in this
episode of True Crime. Gangster stories with David V.
He talks about how his life and organized crime.
Directly impacted his family. I call this episode Family
Matters. So one quick thing I would like
to address is, I get the occasional comment and why do I
have such a person, like David be on the podcast?
Some people very disapprove of the things he's done in his
lifestyle choices. And I understand why they could
feel that way. But for one it is a true crime
podcast and second of all he is a living source.
That's willing to come on the podcast and talk openly and
candidly about his lifestyle and give first-hand accounts.
Of a life and characters that movies are made out of and books
are written about and Netflix series and documentaries.
And we as a society are fascinated with criminals and
Mafia characters and gangsters and you know the thousands and
thousands of books and movies have been written by these
people. Being a true crime podcast.
It's for me it's an honor to find someone who is a Breathing
source of of this world who's willing to come and talk openly
and candidly about his experiences.
And for me, it's fascinating, I don't approve of the things he's
done, but the David I know, has been a good friend.
He's been a very positive person and he lives a very peaceful
quiet lifestyle, and he's hoping that his message will help
people. Maybe change out of this
lifestyle. So if out further Ado, let's get
in on if the episode. Thank you so much.
Hi David. It's good to talk to you again
and how you been. I'm doing fine and yourself.
Oh, not too bad. Busy with the kids school is
almost finished looking forward to Summer.
And so in this podcast I thought we'd talk about your family and
how, you know, your lifestyle and All the stuff that, you
know, you're all the all the earlier life events and how it
affected them. Okay.
Yeah and I think it's also good when you know, for the listener
to understand that at the end of the day, no matter what you get
into our don't get into. It's your family that's going to
stick beside you and your family is going to help you through
these dark and challenging moments and they have with you.
Your family were very loyal to you.
They've helped you through some pretty amazing situations.
You know, some of the stories you've told me, it says blows my
mind and and and so I think the listeners Love to hear about
this. Yeah.
Yeah, it's push. So True Blood is thicker than
water man. That's saying is so so true.
Yeah, blood is thicker than water.
It still it's your family. Who's going to stay with you to
the end? Yeah.
Why don't you tell a little bit about your family?
Almost heart for your mother. Your mother has a very
interesting background. Yeah, my mother.
She she's from an island called Malta and my mother was a nun.
She I was a nun for 15 years. That's amazing.
Yeah, prior to being that she was a, her mother was very
dysfunctional to her. Very abusive.
Yeah. And migrate up my great-uncle,
my great-uncle was my mother being a dysfunctional family
with her with her mother. Being very abusive, my
great-uncle being a bishop took her took my mother out of that
situation and put her into a Convent and my mother being in
the calm that she became a nun. She was known for 15 years and
yeah, she ended up getting sick. She ended up getting sick in
Malta and my uncle, my great-uncle decided to send her
to Canada and I range and the range of marriage and that ended
up being dysfunctional to right? And yeah, so that he ended up
stealing a kidnapping, her son at home and taking off.
Yeah. Yeah.
He was three years old as his name's Tony where my
step-brother and took off with him to England.
Anyway, she left her stranded and the next door neighbor was
happens to be my father. Yeah, yeah, yeah sure.
A woman of course and he's knowing you know, the
circumstances and that she's stranded and of course hey
pretty lady and I'll take care of you.
And yeah that's how I came to be awesome.
I think the / being a nun, was a positive experience that she
talked about her a lot or is this something that she didn't
really want to talk about? No it was just positive because
my mother. Yeah sure it was part of her
identity man. Truly was part of her identity.
There was time. There was times.
I'd be I'd be waking up in the middle of night.
My mother be on her knees. Someone holy water on me.
Great, what's going on? Oh, wow, you know I'm just
trying to get you to be back. So your uncle was a saint.
Let's say that's cool. We'll talk about that a little
bit. Oh yeah.
They have a feast for them once a year to song elaborate who he
was? Yeah.
Every year they have this massive Feast for with fireworks
and the people on the streets. Just it's quite a celebration,
I'm honored. Yeah, I'm very honored man
knowing my grandpa was a bishop, you know, as a bishop and a
saint, but the Pope the pope, you know, it's not just Vigorous
a thing. So the thought about remember
you told me a story about when you were in a cafe with your
mother? That was a cool story.
Yeah. Your ionian cash?
Yeah. Yeah.
Downtown Toronto. I was with my mother.
I had to had to do a pickup and usually I do a pick up his large
amount of money and when I go, I usually pack a gun with me at
all times. So I'm with my mother and I go
down to the bar and I meet somebody there and he hands me a
big wad of cash. I slip it on my, my jacket
pocket and, you know, shakes and say, yeah, okay, thank you.
See you later la la la. So since my mother come on let's
go grab a booth over there. I need to sit down.
Counselor money. I'm also.
Okay, so we go and grab a booth and sitting down and pull out
this big wad of money and I started counting on the on the
on the table. You know, this is a rest, this
is a bar, you know, you know, And the buyer knows me, the
waitress, everybody knows me. I'm just like America.
They all know me. So anyways, I got all this cash
on this table and my mother. She says to me.
She's Gillian no nurse. She says three David David.
She says no we don't get upset with me here.
She says I know you're a tough guy and everything she says but
there's like three four guys over there and they're looking
at you right now, counting all that money shit.
Yeah, yeah she is. Rob you and I started laughing.
She's always so funny I said, my don't worry about it.
I says, are you going already come and Rob us?
I'll be shooting them. My mother, my mother.
She looks at me. What shoot him?
What she goes? Well, will you shoot him?
What's what do you got a gun? Yeah, of course.
I got a gun man. She goes.
No, I said yeah. Of course, I got that gun and
I'm talking crazy. She was, will show me the gun,
so I'm not. Come on.
She's not show me this again. No, my mother.
If I don't show her this gun, it's not going to stop.
So that's okay. So I said here, I had it in my
boot. It's in a holster.
It's all right. Anyways, so I'm tapping her her
leg just to let her feel as she's just no no no, I don't
want to see it. I wanted to see it.
Oh geez! Alright, so I take it out of my
home lean down and take it out of my boot and I pass it to her
under the table and she has in her hand and she scurries off to
the washroom. She can't back up and she passes
it to me and her face is like white as a ghost.
And I said, are you happy now? She goes.
Yeah, okay. Okay, Souza's.
I said was I'm finished counting the money now.
So I are you are you, are you satisfied every week?
You're safe. And she says, yeah, I'm
satisfied. It's hilarious.
So, yeah. I totally like shock was that
the first time she ever seen? Like a, like, a gun on you, or
just in general? Or yeah.
Because I was, you know, I was just about 20 years old at that
time, I've I just left the gas work.
So it's not the to, Then and, you know, I kind of froze,
branching out. I was actually working with
Bill. We're working with Bill a little
bit that and yeah, it's just branching out.
And this was all new to my mom. Like, you know, she didn't know
I was, you know, you know, I was, you know, like a pot and,
you know, hash and this and that.
But she didn't know how the extent of my weight like big
bulbs. Deep your and maybe just for the
audience. So the listeners is totally I
ought to The Listener who bill is, well, go with the Colombian
cartel. I work for Bell was his
bodyguard in his Confidant and yeah, I saw I did a lot of work
for him. I sold a lot of drugs for him
and I did a lot of work for him. I was his bodyguard and I did
pick up cash like, you know, like that this time I go pick up
a lot of cash for him. I drop off a lot of cash for
him. You know, like pick up people
for him. You know what I shoot people for
me. I still yeah I did a lot of work
for bills. Yeah also too.
I remember I remember you were told were talking on the weekend
and when you move back home after the whole the dynamite
that's in the the one of the first podcast we did where you
talked about your apartment getting dynamited.
Yeah. That was at Mike's place the
exposure. Uh yeah, right.
Midnight at that. How did that?
You know, just I'm just saying it's just like that's a
conversation like hey Dad, I got to move home.
My place. Got blown up.
Yeah, you know. Yeah.
You know. You know.
So here I am. I got you know, I need a place
to stay right? And we're also really, you know,
I got, I go see my dad, I says I have a lot of heat on me, lot of
a lot of heating or so I had to leave little for another why I
can't be doing a lot of stuff that I was doing.
I just couldn't write, I couldn't just go get an
apartment. Because I have to pay rent there
and and you know and I'm a hustler, right?
And I was being watched now. So I can't do a lot of shit that
I was doing. So I had to lay low.
So the only thing I could lay low is going to my dad's place.
So I go to my dad and said, hey Dad, you know, can I can I stay
here for a while, please? He looks at me said, oh no they
research. I'm not gonna get bombed or
anything. Am I hard?
Yeah, of course, yeah. I have so much police watching
me right now. Dad, I said they're going to be
watching this house and you're going to have to think of house
on the Block. Anyways, he's, of course, my dad
said, yes, you know. So I stayed with my dad, you
know, till things cool down the. Yeah, he got busted, man.
Is he, who would you again, your father, my father, you know,
come on. Yeah.
Of course. They would.
You can come stay with me? Yeah, it was good.
He was there for you, no matter. No matter how, you know, that's
a pretty extreme circumstance. Are you do?
They comedy people have to move home because they're placed on
blowing up with dynamite. That's like that in itself is
mind-blowing, right? Okay.
Could you not feel he is here's a here's a son.
Yeah, his friends are contacting him to tell him to turn on the
TV can use, you know. Yeah and then he said you know
he's going to work and he's people in the newspaper reading
newspapers are just on the front page you know like yeah that's
all it's about us. Yeah.
My dad is a European guy to boot, you know, he's just, you
know, very hard core work. Kahala kind of guy he never
stole of thing in his life. You know it just a good man and
yes, I'm very solid, you know. Yeah, very subtle.
Good about a good-hearted, man. But the love you have for me was
my God, now's and as an adult, you know.
I appreciate it, right? I can understand it before.
I was young Stars, very selfish, very naive, you know, now as an
adult and who I am. No, I understand this right.
Had so much love for me. Tell me a story.
Once when you are driving, you got pulled over by the cops and
your mom's in the car and she was holding for you to maybe
break out of that situation. That that was a crazy situation.
Right? Again here I am.
I'm working for built for the Colombian cartel and what the
situation is. I meant I had to transport Bank,
to Vancouver, a lot of cocaine to Vancouver which I did and now
I had to transport this cocaine from Vancouver to Edmonton so
I'm driving it back to Edmonton and then at that time again I'm
only 20 21 and I just had a beginner's license at that time.
It called the 365. And I had a friend with me.
Who had a license. He was on the passenger side,
and my mother was in the backseat and then the backseat,
my mother was sitting on a few kilos of cocaine.
Wow. Yeah, a whole lot of other, the
whole lot of cash and I had some guns on in the backseat also.
Now my mother knew all this. You know, she knew all this.
So anyway, we're you know, we're driving, I'm driving and I'm
Stone on heroin. You know, both of us.
Me and Buddy and I'm Square. Both scratching like we're
scratching my crazy high on heroin.
My mother goes to me David. You got fleas or something.
Oh my God. Ha ha ha.
I go. No.
My, I don't think she goes. Why are you scratching so much?
You guys are scratching. Like monkeys.
I says, it's a drugs. It says it makes you do this.
She does. Then this is enjoyable.
I said, well, yeah, it's got other benefits to it and
anyways, so we're driving. I'm Don't fire Jasper's
celebrate that the siren there's lights, police are pulling me
up. Want me to pull over and all my
son. My mother she's freaking out.
She's I said ma relax, just relax and then I had a big bag
of this heroin on me and I take it up with my out of my pocket
and I sit here, my hang on to this to please pass it to my
mom. And she puts on her bra in her
bra for me, right? So anyways, she's so we pop the
police come. They come over and yes, you
know, he says, yes, a license and so on registered creation.
And I just pull up this beginners license, I had and the
ownership of the car, which was my buddy next door.
Next to me was his car. So, soon as I pull out the, the
beginners license, the the attitude of this police officer
changed completely. So he says to me, he says, oh, I
see You just started your to learn how to drive.
Oh, yeah, officer just, you know, just beginning.
Yeah, he said, well, this is what you did wrong so now he's
explaining what I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, he
looks, he sees my mom in the back seat, buddy in the the guy
in the front seat, you know, he's clean cut to, you know, and
yeah, he just tell you, he just told me, he's just give me the
right like what I did wrong and what I should do.
Next time to not make that mistake and I thank him very
much and he handed me the my beginners license and he sent me
on my Merry way and yeah and I can and my mother my gosh, you
must have been sweatin the five or six pounds off her man
almost. Yeah before movement for ladies
give her a heart attack. Yeah yeah for women you know
she's yeah and it's the funny thing is she wasn't going to
pass me the heroin back. Wow.
Yeah if you can pass this stuff is no good.
For you. Yeah, yeah.
It's not like she was a good mother though.
Yeah. God bless her soul.
Yes, she was my peers. My best friend to my best
friend. That's cool.
So when you were locked up, you know, of course, you know, when
we talk about in your pot and up in the previous podcast and you
guessed about 17, 18 years and combine like all together.
And, and again, what we talked about a lot in the other
podcasts and you broke this down really well, is Is your friends.
Barely visit you when you're in there, you know, and it's your
parents coming in yapping you and putting money on your books
and things like that. And exactly, not yet on your
family told you about me. But in this circumstance, your
mom helped you out and any kind of an unconventional way.
Yeah. Little like I said, my mom, my
mom is my mom so solid man. Like, you know, she'd do
anything for me, anything and everything poem.
And you got to figure this. All I was a tyrant count of
Kingston, right? That's where the The potential
is were in that town, you know? So my mother's traveling from
Vancouver you know she fly out to Toronto and from Toronto she
busted out to to Kingston then she stay at the John Howard
house there. She knows sometimes I have
trailer visits and she you know she come for trailer visits and
you know she come you know for what was once a year.
She'd come every year or every second Year and she will stay a
week two weeks, you know, and in Kingston from he envies and
after the trailer of pmv's our family visits for three days in
a trailer just you and your family are you and your wife,
whatever it is. And after that Creator visit you
know you know because she still have more time, she still come
and visit me long to instill in Kingston, right?
And Mom would always bring in my mom, would always bring me like,
large, large dope, beeping Large, don't see her.
Yeah, man. Her husband Jimmy, he died of
cancer, and he never took his bed like most of his medication.
He never took it right answer. And I thought, yeah, I'm talking
Hard Men. You know, if you know anything
about cats. Yeah.
They get their patient hope. Yeah.
They give them heavy, medic. Yes, large, strong medication.
And she bring and she'd bring me like thousands of pills.
And, and one pill in that jail. Dale and different strengths to
boot, right? And every strength is, it was
worth more money. The stronger, the more money,
you know. 100 mg pill. You know, you you get 45, people
high on that one pill, right? Right.
So, you know, that one pillow? Yeah, that one pill.
I'm selling for like $150 for a pen.
Wow, so yeah, my man. Yeah.
So when my mom came first time, she came with a package with Is
morphine's. She's aware in the visiting room
and you know she's she's she's she's used to think you're
bringing in a year. These people is intimidating
place. This Collins paper.
Yeah, yeah. You got cars with machine guns,
walking around five foot four, black hair, beautiful woman and
you know, even her old age, she never looked her age.
Very classy, you know. So he's, you wouldn't suspect a
woman like that to bring drugs anyway so, you know so yeah, mum
mum mum, she actually, she had the shoes solidness.
She was solid. My God bless her soul.
But anyway, so I mean, I mean visiting room with my mom and my
mom, you know, she speaks to me now Morty, she says, you know,
she says that I brought you that, you know, I said, oh good,
thank you very much, man. And she goes, how you want me to
bring a pass this to you? Are, you won't have a good.
I do this. I says, oh, don't worry about
that. I says, I'll let you with no one
to pass to me and make long story short.
She passes it to me. So that after, you know, we had
a visit, you know, I had to do with, you know, we have our ways
of bringing it in and I took care of that situation and after
I visited your mom a kiss and it was, it was the morning time and
she's just walk up and see you in the afternoon.
Umm, sure Mom, of course. So I give my good kiss me a hug
and a kiss and I'll see you in the afternoon.
So I go back to the back into the jail within my.
Do, you know few hours I made about a thousand dollars each?
Yeah. Yeah.
Easily. And that's, this is from
lunchtime. Now, I revisit visit those
you're going back to tell, there's a count right there,
there's a count. And then now there's lunch.
And then it's called work up. So you from within that time and
then within that time and that's true and that fast I made a
thousand dollars, maybe break down the the crazy cost of, you
know, drugs on the street compared inside like and and
maybe some people get an idea like how expensive they are when
you're inside. Well, now we're talking now.
The now we're talking about nineteen eighty to eighty-five
now, right? But now I'm sure it's even
crazier now, right back when I was doing time in 1985 AC3 oil
pave, you get a pastry or oil papers to get it, you know, I
mean because oil pay roll a cigarette paper, right?
Right. Well the joint, yeah, read those
papers, you would have to spend a whole carton for three of
those. Wow.
And that would be like, heroin on it.
Like the condo, not just oil, like oil, like hash oil.
Yeah. Okay, okay, yeah.
What are ya? A whole carton would buy that or
five volumes with back. Then we would buy you a carton
would buy you five dimes five pills right.
And how much it's a card that's a lot of money.
You know. Car a the cigarettes.
Yeah. So you know like and the pills
that I had morphine pills that's you know they're really care
when you're injectable and you know back that's that's for four
flaps. So that's that's about that's I
can solve. That for anywhere $150, for that
one pill, even more if I wanted to.
So, anyways, I made a thousand dollars quick, very quick and so
I go back to the visiting room, and my mother comes to comes
into the visitors room. She sits down with grab a copy.
I says, Mom, it's just I got some money for you.
She goes, you got some money for me.
I said, yeah, I got someone. She goes, well, how much money
you have a? I said, well, I got you a
thousand dollars, because that's a thousand dollars.
Wow, where'd you get that money from Dollars, I says why you
know, people didn't feel have money either that kind of I sold
some pills such as a b b tomorrow.
Next visit, don't really even more money for, you know, Isis.
That was just, you know, I had to work fast for you but anyways
she was she was that she couldn't believe it just
couldn't believe it. So yeah, you know I set her up
because she was at the I told, you know, because there was In
the Kingston, you can go do these tours on the boat there,
they thought they'd go around the island and that and you can
have the dinner on these boats and there's music.
Yeah, I told her to go on that to go enjoy yourself.
You know, I don't think Haitian little vacation, like, you know,
you brought me all this. All this good smell that spill.
All this money tell his do for me and it's helping me so much.
Let's at least I can do, is show her a good time, right?
So yeah. So, so, while she was there, I
want you. Here for that week.
I put thousands of dollars in her in her purse almost made her
happy. Oh yeah made a very happy made
me very happy because I was so happy.
I could do that for her, you know.
Yeah, so yeah. So she's so she got the quite
the quite a lesson of how things worked in the institution.
Right? Right.
Yeah. Sounds like, Chad nerves of
Steel? No.
You know what my mother was?
She was Actually an addict herself.
She was a, she was a, she did volumes my mother.
She was addicted to ton of Threes And volumes, you know.
Yeah, as you know, you can't have you the Casual kind of
addict, right? You know, she had two little
pain here her. She would her nerves were a
little bothered. She take a Valium here and she
was doing it. So she was an addict bottom
line. She was an addict you did this
for years. So when my mother was with do
something, she'd pop a couple Rhyme, she get herself.
She get herself off all pilled up.
Oh wow yeah, God bless her. She got hers going on pilled up.
And then once she was ready to do something, she she was ready
and she did it, you know, even her family visits, you know, my
God, you know, these were visits when you came in for the three
days and she come in large I'm talking I don't have packages
like man. Yeah man I I was big guy, had
blonde and I had I was doing good.
I tell you that when my mom came to see me every year that time I
was set, I was set. She really helped me on large
man, let's just go regardless of circumstances.
It's it's amazing that she, you know, was there for you, you
know? Yeah, you know, I get who was
also there for me, my mother. I mean I had I had a girl that I
remember I was I'm not the person that I am.
Now, right, I was, you know, I was headed this girl, there were
she used me? I used her, you know?
And she, I just used her for dope, you know, she'd bring me
my package, has he come? You know, I, you know, we fool
around, you know, give her her thrilled, make her feel special,
and then the center offer her way, right?
But, you know, it was nothing compared to my mom, which my mom
brought me. Right?
Right. Yeah, this is huge.
It was Huge number that you told me a funny story about your dad
and you held his vacuum cleaner hostage, just kind of a funny
story. I heard all that was, that was a
time. I had had a, I had a extorted
somebody and it got really ugly between me and this being this
person here that I had extorted for somebody.
You end up getting a little Brave, still to pray for his own
good. Anyways, so couple of guys I was
have downtown I was in a club called Checkers me and a couple
people with me. One of them guys was my
brother-in-law Jamie and here comes a couple of good people
that I knew and they said, hey Davey is in the the guide the
guy that I they're they're talking for the guy that I
extorted there. See. - and then you guys went
you meet up with him and straighten this out, you know?
Because what I did is when I extorted him and got the money
that I had to get from them, I took his jewelry to you had some
expensive expensive jewelry on on the like confiscated on them
and was to him. It was very sentimental.
I didn't know that I just saw the I just saw you know Flash
and they were telling me that you know sentimental and you
know you like them back and give me I thought I had with him.
I ain't get nothing. You know, and these two guys I
had respect for, right? So they, you know, they had it
must have had a deal with this guy to come, you know,
straighten this out with me. So I said, okay, I'll go talk
with the guy, but yeah, so me and my brother-in-law had and I
had this Italian guy with me, we will go, they go to his car
there and on the outside of the car.
But the guy, I'm with my brother-in-law's, he's smart.
He stays with by my side, but the guy he made Italian guy.
He goes inside the guy, hits the gas, And takes off with the
dude, right? So my oh my God, and I see a, he
takes a takes off, and he's parked on about a block down the
street, where I, where we were talking.
So I'm running toward me. My brother-in-law were running
towards this car, where it was parked and I, you know, start
cursing at B for taking off like this and grab my friends.
Get out of the car, you asshole. So what soon as he gets out of
the car, In the both 10 feet behind me.
Hey, you are assholes and all you can hear is gunshots and
bullets, wine, you know, bing bing bing.
And we're running now. And you can just hear the
bullets hitting, you know, glass and wow, who was shooting?
Well, that's the thing. If you did the, the they had it
all planned out to the car and he was going to stop there.
And then they were going to shoot it, it was a setup.
It was a setup but I like I wasn't going in the car.
No better to going in somebody's car, but the guy I was with he
he didn't, he was just like I said, a stupid anyway, so weak.
I got it. We, we got out of there safe.
So anyway, so not, I tell my friend, who the guy I said,
okay, drive me, I knew some, you know, some bikers I said, take
me to the to some people that I know, which were bikers, right?
So I'll go down there and I had and I The Groovy that I had I
ended up selling it for a bunch of weapons, right?
I called you dear. I have a bunch of for gear,
right? Anyway.
So I said, I think it's now I could myself as, like I'm really
pissed and I don't worry, I don't want this on me.
Anyways, no more because now, this is gonna be evidence in
case I kill this guy, right? I don't want this no more this
just jewelry. So I'm using this for come for
money, right? So I buy all this weapon tree in
that monition and all this stuff.
Really need. I have a, I bought.
So anyway, so I serve as soon as I had everything I said to my
buddy, okay, I'll take me to take me to my house, my dad's
place. So you drive me there and it was
late at night and So I, you know, I caught a key and I go
down to the creek told because I my Dad's sleeping I thought and
I go to the basement and I stashed it, you know, in the
basement right. You know, I'll go back up the
stairs and I closed the piston door and I creep back outside
and I go to the car and say, okay let's take out downtown,
you know, I did what I had to do.
So, come morning time. So come Morning time comes.
I'm on my way to my dad's house, to pick up my my gear, so I can
go take care of business. So I have my friend with me and
we drive on over to my dad's place.
We parked the car. We've we both had them come with
me. So we go inside into the house,
I had them, stay at the front door, and there was my daddy's
in the kitchen sitting down having us copy this morning.
I chose to my dad, you know. Hey Dad, how you doing, buddy?
I'm okay. It's okay cool.
You know? So anyways, I go down to the
basement and Looking for the, you know, to get the gear and
and it's not there. And I'm like, what the hell?
And it's not there. So don't want to means one
thing. My dad found it.
Oh no. Oh yeah. so as I go back up the
stairs, nice, is that Where is it?
It was where's what I said? You know what I'm talking about.
Where is it? And he's playing stupid.
My dad. Now there's a reason and and I
go, where's the, where's where's that?
Where's that bag? You know what I'm talking about
that, where is it? He's, I don't know what you're
talking about, and, you know, he's playing playing dumb to me.
So while I see it, vacuum cleaner.
Has this vacuum cleaner that he just allowed.
It was a filter Queen. You pay like $500 for think.
My mom had a filter clean too. She loved it too.
And I take off down the hall with him.
I died. Hey, you Mafia bastard.
Where you going my vacuum cleaner?
I took my buddy open the door, so we we, we scurried out the
door and I got his vacuum cleaner.
I throw in the car and I take off with the vacuum cleaner, so
I we go a couple blocks. I said, pull over.
I want to use a phone back, then it was payphones.
So I go to a pay phone and I said, I phoned my dad up as his
dad, says he said, yeah. Hey, you Mafia bastard.
Bring me back my vacuum cleaner. I said, Dad.
I said I'll give you your vacuum cleaner but I want my stuff
back. I said you're playing stupid.
I used to hope. He says, listen David.
You bring me back my vacuum cleaner.
You understand? As that I'll bring it to you, I
have no problem being but I want it back.
This is I will give it to you but you have to come alone,
okay? I said, okay, I'll come along So
anyway so we dragged me by tell my buddy to drive me back to the
house. I said you stay here.
Okay. He said yeah so I grabbed the
vacuum cleaner. No I don't you guys go to the
house first and I said, okay he says you got my vacuum cleaner.
I said yes. That he says, I don't see it.
That's, it's at the cars. Don't go get it.
I said that, if I get it, you're going to give me my bag.
He says, yes, I'll give it to you.
I promise. This is okay people to come
along. I said, okay, okay, now I wasn't
getting Coming alone at first, right?
So I go back to the car. I go.
Grab the vacuum cleaner. I bring it to the house, it's
just lock the door, that's okay. I locked the door and I give me
his vacuum cleaner and a big exchange.
He gives me the open it up. Check to make sure everything is
there. So yeah, okay, so I opened it up
and know what they're all. Clean.
Wow. Here they are.
All oiled dwell my heart just melted.
He says, David David, he says he's to call me these man.
He used to call me Mafia bastard, right?
Because because that's what he is, is linking was beside my
friends, right? He says this, you Mafia bastard.
He's and I don't know what you're going to do with this
stuff. He says, he says you're going to
kill somebody. I don't know.
He says and you brought somebody here and they and if you guys
get a Arrested. He's going to tell the police
that I gave you all this weapons, right?
Okay. Where'd you get the gun?
What I was even thinking, you know, mister, mister intelligent
here, you know, I felt like that.
He'll man, right? I said, I was so apologetic to
my dad. I said, yeah, Dad, I'm so so
sorry. And you know what?
I gave you old, man? A hug and a kiss.
And you know what? He was, he was almost at, you
could see the tears in his eyes. He was so concerned about me, he
says, please be careful. I'll be real careful.
I'll tell Kate that. It's no big deal, but yeah, it
was. But I tell you is, he was quite
a trip overseas. Vacuum cleaner, man, I tell you,
he loved that vacuum cleaner. But you know what, man?
He loved me more because he had those guns.
Whose guns were shiny clean man. They were like
brand-spanking-new. Yeah, my I was my heart melted
man, my heart melted. Yeah, you know, I can tell he
was absolutely right. He was absolutely not, I was not
thinking, I was not thinking I was, you know, I was had so much
pressure going on, you know, I had, but I was just running out
of bullets. Flying over my God, your day
before, you know, I mean, I mean, like, I was the weird
dodging bullets, man. You can see Pottery breaking
from the missing me, you know? And yeah, I had a lot on my mind
that day, man. And I wasn't thinking just
seeing all these my Yeah, just wasn't thinking my dad was doing
the thinking. God bless his soul.
Yeah. So it, but it was quite a story
over those vacuum cleaner. Those, it was, it has come it.
Had its comments? Come on, tell me it's comedy,
but but again, he was looking out for your best interest and
and himself that. Yeah, of course, yeah.
More than me. I would, you know, I wouldn't
want anything to happen to my father, you know, that's a yeah.
So, No, no, he did the right thing, man.
He did the right thing. And yeah, I never forget this
story when I was never get to store.
I'm glad I was able to say it for sure your boxing match.
Your you dedicated day that fight to your dad when you break
down the circumstance of training for the fight, all the
obstacles that you had overcome and then ultimately winning.
You know, the wash. Well yeah, well remember this
just happened this incident with the back.
Happened in 1988 34 somewhere on that.
And now I'm doing I just finished doing time to.
I just finished doing 12 years in the penitentiary and I'm
getting ready for a fight. A Commando Challenge fight, u.s.
u.s. military versus The World Elite military.
So this is me. Yeah, this is supposed to be a
military personnel. Active military personnel.
Annelle, right? And gnana and non active
Personnel military personnel. Fighting against each other,
right? April it was a Pay-Per-View
event and I got on this fight card because this guy knocked
out a Canadian and the promoter wanted somebody to Revenge this
loss for Canada right now. Yeah.
So anyways, so I'm training for this fight and this was in the
summer time of July. No June, I was trained.
This, why I got the nod for the fight in June?
And the fight was in August, August 10th, or something like
that. My dad's birthday was July 22nd.
So, come July 4th, I get a phone call.
I was in Vancouver that my father had passed away my crown
says thank you. And yeah, I had to, I had to
stop training and had to go to church.
Toronto and take care of my father and my father, his last
wishes was to be buried back in Malta.
Well, that's where he was born. And that's where my mother was
from and when you know, same island.
So my mother, I had brought my mother with me to Toronto and we
did showed my father there and to family and friends there.
And and then I flew his body to Malta.
And when I was a multi, you know, I did my road work and,
you know, I still trained on the weights but no boxing just kept
myself, strong and that right. And now lets, you know, Late
July and the I had to get back to Vancouver.
I figured well, you know, I can do a week of sparring there
then, you know, I can make my way to North Dakota because
that's where the fight was in North Carolina, right?
If there's an army base there and a big place.
That's where we were fighting in the Pay-Per-View. they're so I
flew back to Vancouver and I did a week of training in Vancouver
and then once the might, you know, ready to fly out to to a
North Carolina and all that I, you know, I made my way to the
border and because I didn't leave from Vancouver because I
had a criminal record of course. And I want to see if I would be
able to make it. So I planned a to go on a bus
and then if I made it and I have it might take it would be in the
airport in Seattle, which I met, right?
So anyway so I made it to Seattle I mean I made it to
North Carolina I was there for a week doing promotions and I did
the fight to I ended up knocking this guy out and 56 seconds of
the first round. Wow.
Yeah. Is it was a big deal.
He sent me a video of him going to post it on my Vancouver.
True Crime, Instagram page so the listeners can watch that
clip. Good good.
Yeah it was it sad. Don't blink like I said I
knocked him out in 56 seconds so yeah it's good.
I had a lot to I wasn't at first wasn't gonna go to this fight,
you know. I but it with my good friend
recall, God bless his soul. He, you know, he he he told me,
he said, Davy says you go. He says, he's because if we
don't go, Dave, you're gonna Somebody man because he knows
me, you know, she says you need a release right?
It's a good out well for you. Yeah, he said you can go hurt
this guy legally buddy, he was roughly right.
You know I needed to I need her to go hurt somebody.
You know, I need to go hard somebody that's because that's
who I was back then. I was, I had mental issues and I
needed to hurt somebody and I did go hurt somebody.
I heard this guy knocked him out in the first round.
And the strange thing was get home before the fight, you know,
after the fight before the fight, we said after the fight
because we were there for a week.
So we've got the meat ever each other.
And, you know, because we're promoting this fight and this
guy's name was Jacob Sellers and the day before the fight that
they had, that they have the fight he says to me, hey, and
the loser, buys the beer. I said, yeah.
Okay. Loser buys the beer.
So anyways, so we're at the bar at the end of the night and he
says to me. No Dave.
He says Get a scar on his face. He got in a car accident and he
had a big scar on his face. He said, he says, you know, what
I do when I got in that car accident and my head hit the
steering wheel. Oh God this.
Yeah, he says the punch was harder than that.
The blow from the steering wheel.
He said wow, and even at the bar he says I'm still screwed up.
My mommy says I'm sorry. I still he I he was concussed
right. Right.
Yeah, I can cus this guy. And you'll see that she
wouldn't. You see it on the way I dropped
this guy Ray to his knees man. This guy was a tough Marine man.
Top murmuring, what weight class was it this was 100 and light.
Heavyweight high was 107 33 pounds, and this guy was 173
pounds, but he looked like he was about 200.
This guy was all muscle man, right?
Yeah, I remember remember the clip, yeah.
He was a big, dude. Yeah, he's just big to like with
me, will give me. Full conference.
I was gonna knock this guy out was the day, we are the fight.
We got to train, we got to go loosen up, you know, you little
bit, you know, and I was in the lobby and he came and I go, hey,
buddy, I just have a good workout.
He goes. Yeah, I just spent three
hundred, sixty five pounds for four reps.
Wow. And I and I think exactly what.
Yeah. And and the expression on my
face, he thought I was doubting him, right?
Right? But you should know.
I did I did. And I said, oh, I believe you,
but my thing was, how stoked? Yeah.
It's wrong training for for boxing.
Quebec you right before? Especially right.
Yeah, I knew I was not going to mouth.
Yeah, I knew I was not going to mount because today he was the
way he was punching. He was punching.
Because, you know, when you're not that your arms and you're
pressing and he was punching like that.
Yeah, I mean, I like to do is come straight down.
It'll which I did and he come running into it on top of it and
he came in, he got hit hard. So yeah, that was, yeah.
So that was like, that was for my dad, that fights, you know,
you know, I always, I was hard on myself for a while because my
dad was really concerned because I just got out of the
penitentiary, that was my first fight in boxing fight in 14
years. And here I am.
Here, I am stepping in a Pay-Per-View event, right?
And this is Guy just finished talking out of marine, right?
And my dad, you know, he loves me, man.
He's a damn. I know you're tough and, you
know, you know, but, you know, it's just, you haven't fought
for 14 years and he know, he started.
My dad was an alcoholic, he drank beer, and and was because
he would love me so much, and all he knew was, was to drink
and he started drinking whiskey, you know, to to, because of his
emotions and his nerves worried about me, right?
He drank whiskey and it, I told them it just said, yeah and I
took it to heart thinking it was my fault which wasn't my small
lot of guilt around his death. Yeah, there was guilt there,
right? Anyways.
Yeah, so yeah, I I, it made me feel good.
That I know he saw in heaven. I know he's there.
So yeah. Thanks for sharing the story.
You know, you sure. You've been very generous of
like, you know, sharing you know really deep emotional and
personal. Personal stories on this podcast
and you know, listeners really love it and in there you know, I
get a lot of feedback and it when I even when I post that I'm
going to do a podcast with you, people are pretty excited about
it. So people are, you know, they're
like, they're liking your stories and and I really
appreciate you taking the time of you know, doing this and it's
really cool. Thank you.
Well, it's my pleasure. You know, if there's one thing I
want out of this and in this podcast, if I could help, Some
one person, man, you know, like, listen, buddy, you know, they
are not. I'm not doing this to promote
myself as I was up this bag, dude.
And I, you know, some kind of hero.
No, no, no, amen. I survived a nightmare man.
And I said, I put my family to shit, you know I'm saying?
Yeah, and they still stuck with, you really stuck with me.
That's what the show is about, but there was this podcast
about. So I'm trying to tell you,
people, if you're out, if you're doing anything stupid, like I
was Doing up there then. Hey, man.
Listen, when you go down, when you get a few, if you get
killed, that's if you don't get killed or you don't get
crippled. If you don't know D, you know,
get out of it while you can. Yes.
You know, I get out of it while you can because you know what?
It's your own your no way to study.
You know, no way everybody says they love you because you got a
Dopey bag there and they're all your friends because you got a
bag and you got money and you're buying the drinks.
When all that is gone. Yeah.
You're by yourself. You're by yourself.
They're not going to come and see you in jail.
Then I had to come see you in the hospital.
It's just your family. Yes, it's just your family man,
so don't do it. Don't believe this.
This lie about your feet, people telling you, they love you and
they'll die for you and it'll kill for you.
That's all bullshit. Yeah.
Don't believe that people. Okay, don't believe that all my
friends. Most Any of my friends that were
down with me? They get their hands.
There's not there's only one or two alive.
Everybody is dead. Yeah I like talking a lot of
Crews. I've been with a lot of Crews.
Yeah. I've been in this thing.
You know, the time crew the Portuguese crew, the Greek crew
the French Cruise. You know.
I've been with a lot of Crews. You seen a lot of seen a lot
yet. Seen a lot that I done a lot.
Yeah, I'm a true survivor. You know, God has a plan for me.
And this is part of this plan, I believe is this podcast.
So I just want to put that out there, Matt.
And if anybody you're listening to me, if you can get out of
with your get out, get out of the why you can prefer, you
know, that's all I got to say. God bless you all man.
Well, thank you David. I really appreciate your time
and I look forward to continuing doing this with you.
It's my honor. Thank you, my pleasure, thank
you. God bless you, my friend, God
bless you out there, you take care.
Yeah.