1 00:00:00,500 --> 00:00:04,500 Welcome to the Vancouver. True Crime podcast, in this 2 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:07,600 episode of True Crime. Gangster stories with David V. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,200 He talks about how his life and organized crime. 4 00:00:14,300 --> 00:00:19,200 Directly impacted his family. I call this episode Family 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,100 Matters. So one quick thing I would like 6 00:00:22,100 --> 00:00:26,900 to address is, I get the occasional comment and why do I 7 00:00:26,900 --> 00:00:31,900 have such a person, like David be on the podcast? 8 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,500 Some people very disapprove of the things he's done in his 9 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:40,900 lifestyle choices. And I understand why they could 10 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:44,900 feel that way. But for one it is a true crime 11 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:49,700 podcast and second of all he is a living source. 12 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:56,100 That's willing to come on the podcast and talk openly and 13 00:00:56,100 --> 00:00:59,800 candidly about his lifestyle and give first-hand accounts. 14 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:07,100 Of a life and characters that movies are made out of and books 15 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:11,500 are written about and Netflix series and documentaries. 16 00:01:11,500 --> 00:01:16,800 And we as a society are fascinated with criminals and 17 00:01:16,900 --> 00:01:21,100 Mafia characters and gangsters and you know the thousands and 18 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:23,900 thousands of books and movies have been written by these 19 00:01:23,900 --> 00:01:26,700 people. Being a true crime podcast. 20 00:01:26,700 --> 00:01:31,500 It's for me it's an honor to find someone who is a Breathing 21 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:36,700 source of of this world who's willing to come and talk openly 22 00:01:36,700 --> 00:01:39,500 and candidly about his experiences. 23 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,500 And for me, it's fascinating, I don't approve of the things he's 24 00:01:43,500 --> 00:01:49,200 done, but the David I know, has been a good friend. 25 00:01:49,300 --> 00:01:54,700 He's been a very positive person and he lives a very peaceful 26 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,000 quiet lifestyle, and he's hoping that his message will help 27 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:04,700 people. Maybe change out of this 28 00:02:04,700 --> 00:02:07,500 lifestyle. So if out further Ado, let's get 29 00:02:07,500 --> 00:02:09,800 in on if the episode. Thank you so much. 30 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,800 Hi David. It's good to talk to you again 31 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:18,600 and how you been. I'm doing fine and yourself. 32 00:02:18,700 --> 00:02:21,500 Oh, not too bad. Busy with the kids school is 33 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:23,400 almost finished looking forward to Summer. 34 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:30,200 And so in this podcast I thought we'd talk about your family and 35 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:36,500 how, you know, your lifestyle and All the stuff that, you 36 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:39,400 know, you're all the all the earlier life events and how it 37 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,700 affected them. Okay. 38 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:45,900 Yeah and I think it's also good when you know, for the listener 39 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:50,800 to understand that at the end of the day, no matter what you get 40 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,900 into our don't get into. It's your family that's going to 41 00:02:53,900 --> 00:02:57,000 stick beside you and your family is going to help you through 42 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,300 these dark and challenging moments and they have with you. 43 00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:02,000 Your family were very loyal to you. 44 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,600 They've helped you through some pretty amazing situations. 45 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,800 You know, some of the stories you've told me, it says blows my 46 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:13,700 mind and and and so I think the listeners Love to hear about 47 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,000 this. Yeah. 48 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,500 Yeah, it's push. So True Blood is thicker than 49 00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:21,100 water man. That's saying is so so true. 50 00:03:21,900 --> 00:03:23,500 Yeah, blood is thicker than water. 51 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:25,900 It still it's your family. Who's going to stay with you to 52 00:03:25,900 --> 00:03:27,600 the end? Yeah. 53 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Why don't you tell a little bit about your family? 54 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,600 Almost heart for your mother. Your mother has a very 55 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,000 interesting background. Yeah, my mother. 56 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:41,600 She she's from an island called Malta and my mother was a nun. 57 00:03:41,700 --> 00:03:47,000 She I was a nun for 15 years. That's amazing. 58 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:51,600 Yeah, prior to being that she was a, her mother was very 59 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,800 dysfunctional to her. Very abusive. 60 00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,200 Yeah. And migrate up my great-uncle, 61 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:10,000 my great-uncle was my mother being a dysfunctional family 62 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,200 with her with her mother. Being very abusive, my 63 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:18,100 great-uncle being a bishop took her took my mother out of that 64 00:04:18,100 --> 00:04:22,400 situation and put her into a Convent and my mother being in 65 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:27,500 the calm that she became a nun. She was known for 15 years and 66 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,900 yeah, she ended up getting sick. She ended up getting sick in 67 00:04:32,300 --> 00:04:39,400 Malta and my uncle, my great-uncle decided to send her 68 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:45,800 to Canada and I range and the range of marriage and that ended 69 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:52,300 up being dysfunctional to right? And yeah, so that he ended up 70 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:55,800 stealing a kidnapping, her son at home and taking off. 71 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:56,700 Yeah. Yeah. 72 00:04:57,100 --> 00:05:00,400 He was three years old as his name's Tony where my 73 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,800 step-brother and took off with him to England. 74 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:08,200 Anyway, she left her stranded and the next door neighbor was 75 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:11,800 happens to be my father. Yeah, yeah, yeah sure. 76 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,600 A woman of course and he's knowing you know, the 77 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,300 circumstances and that she's stranded and of course hey 78 00:05:19,300 --> 00:05:21,000 pretty lady and I'll take care of you. 79 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,800 And yeah that's how I came to be awesome. 80 00:05:24,700 --> 00:05:27,700 I think the / being a nun, was a positive experience that she 81 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:29,700 talked about her a lot or is this something that she didn't 82 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:34,000 really want to talk about? No it was just positive because 83 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:37,400 my mother. Yeah sure it was part of her 84 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,900 identity man. Truly was part of her identity. 85 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,000 There was time. There was times. 86 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,200 I'd be I'd be waking up in the middle of night. 87 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:50,400 My mother be on her knees. Someone holy water on me. 88 00:05:51,100 --> 00:05:56,000 Great, what's going on? Oh, wow, you know I'm just 89 00:05:57,300 --> 00:06:02,200 trying to get you to be back. So your uncle was a saint. 90 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:06,000 Let's say that's cool. We'll talk about that a little 91 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,900 bit. Oh yeah. 92 00:06:08,900 --> 00:06:13,400 They have a feast for them once a year to song elaborate who he 93 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,700 was? Yeah. 94 00:06:15,700 --> 00:06:19,400 Every year they have this massive Feast for with fireworks 95 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,700 and the people on the streets. Just it's quite a celebration, 96 00:06:25,100 --> 00:06:27,300 I'm honored. Yeah, I'm very honored man 97 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:30,800 knowing my grandpa was a bishop, you know, as a bishop and a 98 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:37,900 saint, but the Pope the pope, you know, it's not just Vigorous 99 00:06:37,900 --> 00:06:43,300 a thing. So the thought about remember 100 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:48,200 you told me a story about when you were in a cafe with your 101 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,300 mother? That was a cool story. 102 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:53,600 Yeah. Your ionian cash? 103 00:06:54,100 --> 00:06:55,700 Yeah. Yeah. 104 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,700 Downtown Toronto. I was with my mother. 105 00:07:00,700 --> 00:07:05,700 I had to had to do a pickup and usually I do a pick up his large 106 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:09,900 amount of money and when I go, I usually pack a gun with me at 107 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:15,200 all times. So I'm with my mother and I go 108 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:19,400 down to the bar and I meet somebody there and he hands me a 109 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:24,900 big wad of cash. I slip it on my, my jacket 110 00:07:24,900 --> 00:07:28,300 pocket and, you know, shakes and say, yeah, okay, thank you. 111 00:07:28,300 --> 00:07:31,700 See you later la la la. So since my mother come on let's 112 00:07:31,700 --> 00:07:34,800 go grab a booth over there. I need to sit down. 113 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,200 Counselor money. I'm also. 114 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:42,400 Okay, so we go and grab a booth and sitting down and pull out 115 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:45,400 this big wad of money and I started counting on the on the 116 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,100 on the table. You know, this is a rest, this 117 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:55,200 is a bar, you know, you know, And the buyer knows me, the 118 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,500 waitress, everybody knows me. I'm just like America. 119 00:07:57,500 --> 00:08:00,200 They all know me. So anyways, I got all this cash 120 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:02,800 on this table and my mother. She says to me. 121 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,200 She's Gillian no nurse. She says three David David. 122 00:08:06,700 --> 00:08:09,000 She says no we don't get upset with me here. 123 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:13,500 She says I know you're a tough guy and everything she says but 124 00:08:13,700 --> 00:08:16,600 there's like three four guys over there and they're looking 125 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,000 at you right now, counting all that money shit. 126 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:25,200 Yeah, yeah she is. Rob you and I started laughing. 127 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:28,900 She's always so funny I said, my don't worry about it. 128 00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:30,700 I says, are you going already come and Rob us? 129 00:08:30,700 --> 00:08:33,900 I'll be shooting them. My mother, my mother. 130 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,799 She looks at me. What shoot him? 131 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:37,100 What she goes? Well, will you shoot him? 132 00:08:37,100 --> 00:08:39,500 What's what do you got a gun? Yeah, of course. 133 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:41,400 I got a gun man. She goes. 134 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,400 No, I said yeah. Of course, I got that gun and 135 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,100 I'm talking crazy. She was, will show me the gun, 136 00:08:47,900 --> 00:08:49,200 so I'm not. Come on. 137 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,200 She's not show me this again. No, my mother. 138 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,700 If I don't show her this gun, it's not going to stop. 139 00:08:57,100 --> 00:08:59,900 So that's okay. So I said here, I had it in my 140 00:08:59,900 --> 00:09:01,200 boot. It's in a holster. 141 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,500 It's all right. Anyways, so I'm tapping her her 142 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:07,400 leg just to let her feel as she's just no no no, I don't 143 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:09,100 want to see it. I wanted to see it. 144 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,400 Oh geez! Alright, so I take it out of my 145 00:09:12,500 --> 00:09:16,500 home lean down and take it out of my boot and I pass it to her 146 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:20,500 under the table and she has in her hand and she scurries off to 147 00:09:20,500 --> 00:09:24,100 the washroom. She can't back up and she passes 148 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:27,900 it to me and her face is like white as a ghost. 149 00:09:28,900 --> 00:09:30,800 And I said, are you happy now? She goes. 150 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,000 Yeah, okay. Okay, Souza's. 151 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:35,000 I said was I'm finished counting the money now. 152 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:39,400 So I are you are you, are you satisfied every week? 153 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,300 You're safe. And she says, yeah, I'm 154 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:43,900 satisfied. It's hilarious. 155 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:45,700 So, yeah. I totally like shock was that 156 00:09:45,700 --> 00:09:49,700 the first time she ever seen? Like a, like, a gun on you, or 157 00:09:49,700 --> 00:09:51,800 just in general? Or yeah. 158 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,500 Because I was, you know, I was just about 20 years old at that 159 00:09:55,500 --> 00:09:57,600 time, I've I just left the gas work. 160 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,600 So it's not the to, Then and, you know, I kind of froze, 161 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,700 branching out. I was actually working with 162 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:08,100 Bill. We're working with Bill a little 163 00:10:08,100 --> 00:10:11,000 bit that and yeah, it's just branching out. 164 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,600 And this was all new to my mom. Like, you know, she didn't know 165 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:19,400 I was, you know, you know, I was, you know, like a pot and, 166 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,100 you know, hash and this and that. 167 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:24,100 But she didn't know how the extent of my weight like big 168 00:10:24,100 --> 00:10:26,200 bulbs. Deep your and maybe just for the 169 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:28,600 audience. So the listeners is totally I 170 00:10:28,608 --> 00:10:33,000 ought to The Listener who bill is, well, go with the Colombian 171 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,900 cartel. I work for Bell was his 172 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:40,300 bodyguard in his Confidant and yeah, I saw I did a lot of work 173 00:10:40,300 --> 00:10:42,100 for him. I sold a lot of drugs for him 174 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:48,500 and I did a lot of work for him. I was his bodyguard and I did 175 00:10:48,500 --> 00:10:51,100 pick up cash like, you know, like that this time I go pick up 176 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:54,800 a lot of cash for him. I drop off a lot of cash for 177 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,100 him. You know, like pick up people 178 00:10:58,100 --> 00:11:02,000 for him. You know what I shoot people for 179 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,900 me. I still yeah I did a lot of work 180 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:08,700 for bills. Yeah also too. 181 00:11:08,700 --> 00:11:12,300 I remember I remember you were told were talking on the weekend 182 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:17,900 and when you move back home after the whole the dynamite 183 00:11:17,900 --> 00:11:21,700 that's in the the one of the first podcast we did where you 184 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:24,800 talked about your apartment getting dynamited. 185 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:27,600 Yeah. That was at Mike's place the 186 00:11:27,900 --> 00:11:29,400 exposure. Uh yeah, right. 187 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,000 Midnight at that. How did that? 188 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,100 You know, just I'm just saying it's just like that's a 189 00:11:33,108 --> 00:11:35,600 conversation like hey Dad, I got to move home. 190 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,000 My place. Got blown up. 191 00:11:37,500 --> 00:11:39,300 Yeah, you know. Yeah. 192 00:11:39,300 --> 00:11:40,600 You know. You know. 193 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,600 So here I am. I got you know, I need a place 194 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:45,900 to stay right? And we're also really, you know, 195 00:11:45,900 --> 00:11:50,000 I got, I go see my dad, I says I have a lot of heat on me, lot of 196 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:54,000 a lot of heating or so I had to leave little for another why I 197 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,000 can't be doing a lot of stuff that I was doing. 198 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 I just couldn't write, I couldn't just go get an 199 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,400 apartment. Because I have to pay rent there 200 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,700 and and you know and I'm a hustler, right? 201 00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:05,600 And I was being watched now. So I can't do a lot of shit that 202 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,800 I was doing. So I had to lay low. 203 00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:10,200 So the only thing I could lay low is going to my dad's place. 204 00:12:10,700 --> 00:12:14,300 So I go to my dad and said, hey Dad, you know, can I can I stay 205 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:18,400 here for a while, please? He looks at me said, oh no they 206 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:19,800 research. I'm not gonna get bombed or 207 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:20,900 anything. Am I hard? 208 00:12:25,300 --> 00:12:33,900 Yeah, of course, yeah. I have so much police watching 209 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:36,400 me right now. Dad, I said they're going to be 210 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,200 watching this house and you're going to have to think of house 211 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,200 on the Block. Anyways, he's, of course, my dad 212 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,700 said, yes, you know. So I stayed with my dad, you 213 00:12:44,700 --> 00:12:51,100 know, till things cool down the. Yeah, he got busted, man. 214 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:54,000 Is he, who would you again, your father, my father, you know, 215 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:55,200 come on. Yeah. 216 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:55,900 Of course. They would. 217 00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:58,500 You can come stay with me? Yeah, it was good. 218 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:01,100 He was there for you, no matter. No matter how, you know, that's 219 00:13:01,100 --> 00:13:03,200 a pretty extreme circumstance. Are you do? 220 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,200 They comedy people have to move home because they're placed on 221 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,600 blowing up with dynamite. That's like that in itself is 222 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:10,500 mind-blowing, right? Okay. 223 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:15,000 Could you not feel he is here's a here's a son. 224 00:13:15,300 --> 00:13:18,500 Yeah, his friends are contacting him to tell him to turn on the 225 00:13:18,500 --> 00:13:23,400 TV can use, you know. Yeah and then he said you know 226 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,000 he's going to work and he's people in the newspaper reading 227 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,300 newspapers are just on the front page you know like yeah that's 228 00:13:31,300 --> 00:13:33,500 all it's about us. Yeah. 229 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:36,800 My dad is a European guy to boot, you know, he's just, you 230 00:13:36,808 --> 00:13:42,900 know, very hard core work. Kahala kind of guy he never 231 00:13:42,900 --> 00:13:46,500 stole of thing in his life. You know it just a good man and 232 00:13:46,500 --> 00:13:50,000 yes, I'm very solid, you know. Yeah, very subtle. 233 00:13:50,300 --> 00:13:54,300 Good about a good-hearted, man. But the love you have for me was 234 00:13:54,900 --> 00:13:58,000 my God, now's and as an adult, you know. 235 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,900 I appreciate it, right? I can understand it before. 236 00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:06,800 I was young Stars, very selfish, very naive, you know, now as an 237 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:10,300 adult and who I am. No, I understand this right. 238 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,800 Had so much love for me. Tell me a story. 239 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:19,300 Once when you are driving, you got pulled over by the cops and 240 00:14:19,300 --> 00:14:22,500 your mom's in the car and she was holding for you to maybe 241 00:14:22,500 --> 00:14:25,700 break out of that situation. That that was a crazy situation. 242 00:14:25,700 --> 00:14:27,200 Right? Again here I am. 243 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:30,600 I'm working for built for the Colombian cartel and what the 244 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,300 situation is. I meant I had to transport Bank, 245 00:14:34,300 --> 00:14:39,900 to Vancouver, a lot of cocaine to Vancouver which I did and now 246 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:46,500 I had to transport this cocaine from Vancouver to Edmonton so 247 00:14:47,300 --> 00:14:51,000 I'm driving it back to Edmonton and then at that time again I'm 248 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:56,700 only 20 21 and I just had a beginner's license at that time. 249 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,500 It called the 365. And I had a friend with me. 250 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,000 Who had a license. He was on the passenger side, 251 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,600 and my mother was in the backseat and then the backseat, 252 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,000 my mother was sitting on a few kilos of cocaine. 253 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,900 Wow. Yeah, a whole lot of other, the 254 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:19,100 whole lot of cash and I had some guns on in the backseat also. 255 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:23,200 Now my mother knew all this. You know, she knew all this. 256 00:15:23,900 --> 00:15:27,900 So anyway, we're you know, we're driving, I'm driving and I'm 257 00:15:27,900 --> 00:15:30,500 Stone on heroin. You know, both of us. 258 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:33,900 Me and Buddy and I'm Square. Both scratching like we're 259 00:15:33,900 --> 00:15:35,800 scratching my crazy high on heroin. 260 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,000 My mother goes to me David. You got fleas or something. 261 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:41,000 Oh my God. Ha ha ha. 262 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:42,300 I go. No. 263 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:44,900 My, I don't think she goes. Why are you scratching so much? 264 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:46,700 You guys are scratching. Like monkeys. 265 00:15:47,300 --> 00:15:49,900 I says, it's a drugs. It says it makes you do this. 266 00:15:50,300 --> 00:15:51,900 She does. Then this is enjoyable. 267 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:55,100 I said, well, yeah, it's got other benefits to it and 268 00:15:55,100 --> 00:16:01,100 anyways, so we're driving. I'm Don't fire Jasper's 269 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,500 celebrate that the siren there's lights, police are pulling me 270 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:07,200 up. Want me to pull over and all my 271 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,600 son. My mother she's freaking out. 272 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,500 She's I said ma relax, just relax and then I had a big bag 273 00:16:15,900 --> 00:16:19,600 of this heroin on me and I take it up with my out of my pocket 274 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,000 and I sit here, my hang on to this to please pass it to my 275 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,300 mom. And she puts on her bra in her 276 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:29,800 bra for me, right? So anyways, she's so we pop the 277 00:16:29,808 --> 00:16:32,600 police come. They come over and yes, you 278 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,000 know, he says, yes, a license and so on registered creation. 279 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:40,500 And I just pull up this beginners license, I had and the 280 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:43,000 ownership of the car, which was my buddy next door. 281 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,100 Next to me was his car. So, soon as I pull out the, the 282 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:51,100 beginners license, the the attitude of this police officer 283 00:16:51,100 --> 00:16:56,600 changed completely. So he says to me, he says, oh, I 284 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,400 see You just started your to learn how to drive. 285 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:02,200 Oh, yeah, officer just, you know, just beginning. 286 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,099 Yeah, he said, well, this is what you did wrong so now he's 287 00:17:05,099 --> 00:17:09,500 explaining what I did. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, he 288 00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:13,500 looks, he sees my mom in the back seat, buddy in the the guy 289 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:17,400 in the front seat, you know, he's clean cut to, you know, and 290 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:21,099 yeah, he just tell you, he just told me, he's just give me the 291 00:17:21,099 --> 00:17:23,599 right like what I did wrong and what I should do. 292 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:27,800 Next time to not make that mistake and I thank him very 293 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:32,000 much and he handed me the my beginners license and he sent me 294 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:39,400 on my Merry way and yeah and I can and my mother my gosh, you 295 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,600 must have been sweatin the five or six pounds off her man 296 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,100 almost. Yeah before movement for ladies 297 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,400 give her a heart attack. Yeah yeah for women you know 298 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,300 she's yeah and it's the funny thing is she wasn't going to 299 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:54,000 pass me the heroin back. Wow. 300 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,700 Yeah if you can pass this stuff is no good. 301 00:17:56,900 --> 00:17:59,300 For you. Yeah, yeah. 302 00:17:59,300 --> 00:18:00,800 It's not like she was a good mother though. 303 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:02,300 Yeah. God bless her soul. 304 00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:05,200 Yes, she was my peers. My best friend to my best 305 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,100 friend. That's cool. 306 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,600 So when you were locked up, you know, of course, you know, when 307 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,700 we talk about in your pot and up in the previous podcast and you 308 00:18:15,700 --> 00:18:20,100 guessed about 17, 18 years and combine like all together. 309 00:18:20,500 --> 00:18:22,900 And, and again, what we talked about a lot in the other 310 00:18:22,900 --> 00:18:28,000 podcasts and you broke this down really well, is Is your friends. 311 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Barely visit you when you're in there, you know, and it's your 312 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:35,300 parents coming in yapping you and putting money on your books 313 00:18:35,300 --> 00:18:41,800 and things like that. And exactly, not yet on your 314 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:46,200 family told you about me. But in this circumstance, your 315 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:50,300 mom helped you out and any kind of an unconventional way. 316 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:55,100 Yeah. Little like I said, my mom, my 317 00:18:55,100 --> 00:18:58,600 mom is my mom so solid man. Like, you know, she'd do 318 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,400 anything for me, anything and everything poem. 319 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,100 And you got to figure this. All I was a tyrant count of 320 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,400 Kingston, right? That's where the The potential 321 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,900 is were in that town, you know? So my mother's traveling from 322 00:19:11,900 --> 00:19:17,800 Vancouver you know she fly out to Toronto and from Toronto she 323 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:24,300 busted out to to Kingston then she stay at the John Howard 324 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:27,200 house there. She knows sometimes I have 325 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:31,100 trailer visits and she you know she come for trailer visits and 326 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,300 you know she come you know for what was once a year. 327 00:19:35,300 --> 00:19:39,500 She'd come every year or every second Year and she will stay a 328 00:19:39,500 --> 00:19:43,400 week two weeks, you know, and in Kingston from he envies and 329 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,000 after the trailer of pmv's our family visits for three days in 330 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,000 a trailer just you and your family are you and your wife, 331 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,100 whatever it is. And after that Creator visit you 332 00:19:53,100 --> 00:19:56,800 know you know because she still have more time, she still come 333 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:01,200 and visit me long to instill in Kingston, right? 334 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,700 And Mom would always bring in my mom, would always bring me like, 335 00:20:04,700 --> 00:20:08,800 large, large dope, beeping Large, don't see her. 336 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,100 Yeah, man. Her husband Jimmy, he died of 337 00:20:13,100 --> 00:20:17,600 cancer, and he never took his bed like most of his medication. 338 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:21,600 He never took it right answer. And I thought, yeah, I'm talking 339 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,000 Hard Men. You know, if you know anything 340 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:23,900 about cats. Yeah. 341 00:20:23,900 --> 00:20:26,100 They get their patient hope. Yeah. 342 00:20:26,100 --> 00:20:30,900 They give them heavy, medic. Yes, large, strong medication. 343 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,200 And she bring and she'd bring me like thousands of pills. 344 00:20:35,500 --> 00:20:40,100 And, and one pill in that jail. Dale and different strengths to 345 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:44,200 boot, right? And every strength is, it was 346 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,800 worth more money. The stronger, the more money, 347 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:51,700 you know. 100 mg pill. You know, you you get 45, people 348 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:53,700 high on that one pill, right? Right. 349 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:56,400 So, you know, that one pillow? Yeah, that one pill. 350 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,600 I'm selling for like $150 for a pen. 351 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,500 Wow, so yeah, my man. Yeah. 352 00:21:02,500 --> 00:21:07,900 So when my mom came first time, she came with a package with Is 353 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:11,300 morphine's. She's aware in the visiting room 354 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:16,400 and you know she's she's she's she's used to think you're 355 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,000 bringing in a year. These people is intimidating 356 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:20,500 place. This Collins paper. 357 00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:24,200 Yeah, yeah. You got cars with machine guns, 358 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:34,600 walking around five foot four, black hair, beautiful woman and 359 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,900 you know, even her old age, she never looked her age. 360 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:41,600 Very classy, you know. So he's, you wouldn't suspect a 361 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,600 woman like that to bring drugs anyway so, you know so yeah, mum 362 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,100 mum mum, she actually, she had the shoes solidness. 363 00:21:51,500 --> 00:21:54,000 She was solid. My God bless her soul. 364 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:58,300 But anyway, so I mean, I mean visiting room with my mom and my 365 00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:01,300 mom, you know, she speaks to me now Morty, she says, you know, 366 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,000 she says that I brought you that, you know, I said, oh good, 367 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,000 thank you very much, man. And she goes, how you want me to 368 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,400 bring a pass this to you? Are, you won't have a good. 369 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:13,100 I do this. I says, oh, don't worry about 370 00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:15,500 that. I says, I'll let you with no one 371 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:18,100 to pass to me and make long story short. 372 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:23,700 She passes it to me. So that after, you know, we had 373 00:22:23,700 --> 00:22:27,100 a visit, you know, I had to do with, you know, we have our ways 374 00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:30,600 of bringing it in and I took care of that situation and after 375 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,700 I visited your mom a kiss and it was, it was the morning time and 376 00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:36,500 she's just walk up and see you in the afternoon. 377 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:41,400 Umm, sure Mom, of course. So I give my good kiss me a hug 378 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,500 and a kiss and I'll see you in the afternoon. 379 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:49,200 So I go back to the back into the jail within my. 380 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,600 Do, you know few hours I made about a thousand dollars each? 381 00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:55,200 Yeah. Yeah. 382 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,400 Easily. And that's, this is from 383 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,500 lunchtime. Now, I revisit visit those 384 00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:03,500 you're going back to tell, there's a count right there, 385 00:23:03,700 --> 00:23:06,400 there's a count. And then now there's lunch. 386 00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:10,900 And then it's called work up. So you from within that time and 387 00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:14,600 then within that time and that's true and that fast I made a 388 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:21,100 thousand dollars, maybe break down the the crazy cost of, you 389 00:23:21,100 --> 00:23:24,200 know, drugs on the street compared inside like and and 390 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,400 maybe some people get an idea like how expensive they are when 391 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,900 you're inside. Well, now we're talking now. 392 00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:35,600 The now we're talking about nineteen eighty to eighty-five 393 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,000 now, right? But now I'm sure it's even 394 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:46,400 crazier now, right back when I was doing time in 1985 AC3 oil 395 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,400 pave, you get a pastry or oil papers to get it, you know, I 396 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,800 mean because oil pay roll a cigarette paper, right? 397 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,700 Right. Well the joint, yeah, read those 398 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:57,800 papers, you would have to spend a whole carton for three of 399 00:23:57,800 --> 00:23:58,800 those. Wow. 400 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:00,400 And that would be like, heroin on it. 401 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:04,200 Like the condo, not just oil, like oil, like hash oil. 402 00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:06,500 Yeah. Okay, okay, yeah. 403 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:09,600 What are ya? A whole carton would buy that or 404 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:13,500 five volumes with back. Then we would buy you a carton 405 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,100 would buy you five dimes five pills right. 406 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:17,700 And how much it's a card that's a lot of money. 407 00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,200 You know. Car a the cigarettes. 408 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,500 Yeah. So you know like and the pills 409 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:25,200 that I had morphine pills that's you know they're really care 410 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:32,600 when you're injectable and you know back that's that's for four 411 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,200 flaps. So that's that's about that's I 412 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,500 can solve. That for anywhere $150, for that 413 00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:40,100 one pill, even more if I wanted to. 414 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:45,900 So, anyways, I made a thousand dollars quick, very quick and so 415 00:24:45,900 --> 00:24:49,200 I go back to the visiting room, and my mother comes to comes 416 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:52,100 into the visitors room. She sits down with grab a copy. 417 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:54,500 I says, Mom, it's just I got some money for you. 418 00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:56,000 She goes, you got some money for me. 419 00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:59,800 I said, yeah, I got someone. She goes, well, how much money 420 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:01,400 you have a? I said, well, I got you a 421 00:25:01,408 --> 00:25:03,700 thousand dollars, because that's a thousand dollars. 422 00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:08,600 Wow, where'd you get that money from Dollars, I says why you 423 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,000 know, people didn't feel have money either that kind of I sold 424 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,600 some pills such as a b b tomorrow. 425 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,500 Next visit, don't really even more money for, you know, Isis. 426 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:21,900 That was just, you know, I had to work fast for you but anyways 427 00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:24,400 she was she was that she couldn't believe it just 428 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:28,000 couldn't believe it. So yeah, you know I set her up 429 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:33,100 because she was at the I told, you know, because there was In 430 00:25:33,100 --> 00:25:36,200 the Kingston, you can go do these tours on the boat there, 431 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,300 they thought they'd go around the island and that and you can 432 00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:42,600 have the dinner on these boats and there's music. 433 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:45,700 Yeah, I told her to go on that to go enjoy yourself. 434 00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:49,600 You know, I don't think Haitian little vacation, like, you know, 435 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,600 you brought me all this. All this good smell that spill. 436 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,900 All this money tell his do for me and it's helping me so much. 437 00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:58,800 Let's at least I can do, is show her a good time, right? 438 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:02,100 So yeah. So, so, while she was there, I 439 00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:03,500 want you. Here for that week. 440 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:07,300 I put thousands of dollars in her in her purse almost made her 441 00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:10,200 happy. Oh yeah made a very happy made 442 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:11,800 me very happy because I was so happy. 443 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,200 I could do that for her, you know. 444 00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:18,800 Yeah, so yeah. So she's so she got the quite 445 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:24,700 the quite a lesson of how things worked in the institution. 446 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,700 Right? Right. 447 00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:27,400 Yeah. Sounds like, Chad nerves of 448 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,900 Steel? No. 449 00:26:28,900 --> 00:26:31,900 No. You know what my mother was? 450 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,400 She was Actually an addict herself. 451 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,000 She was a, she was a, she did volumes my mother. 452 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:41,000 She was addicted to ton of Threes And volumes, you know. 453 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,200 Yeah, as you know, you can't have you the Casual kind of 454 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,100 addict, right? You know, she had two little 455 00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:51,500 pain here her. She would her nerves were a 456 00:26:51,508 --> 00:26:53,700 little bothered. She take a Valium here and she 457 00:26:53,700 --> 00:26:55,700 was doing it. So she was an addict bottom 458 00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,100 line. She was an addict you did this 459 00:26:57,100 --> 00:27:01,500 for years. So when my mother was with do 460 00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:04,000 something, she'd pop a couple Rhyme, she get herself. 461 00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:06,900 She get herself off all pilled up. 462 00:27:07,100 --> 00:27:10,900 Oh wow yeah, God bless her. She got hers going on pilled up. 463 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:16,000 And then once she was ready to do something, she she was ready 464 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,200 and she did it, you know, even her family visits, you know, my 465 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,700 God, you know, these were visits when you came in for the three 466 00:27:23,700 --> 00:27:28,700 days and she come in large I'm talking I don't have packages 467 00:27:28,700 --> 00:27:34,400 like man. Yeah man I I was big guy, had 468 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,700 blonde and I had I was doing good. 469 00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:41,600 I tell you that when my mom came to see me every year that time I 470 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,600 was set, I was set. She really helped me on large 471 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,100 man, let's just go regardless of circumstances. 472 00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:52,900 It's it's amazing that she, you know, was there for you, you 473 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:55,400 know? Yeah, you know, I get who was 474 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,200 also there for me, my mother. I mean I had I had a girl that I 475 00:28:00,700 --> 00:28:02,500 remember I was I'm not the person that I am. 476 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:06,500 Now, right, I was, you know, I was headed this girl, there were 477 00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:08,600 she used me? I used her, you know? 478 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,100 And she, I just used her for dope, you know, she'd bring me 479 00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:16,300 my package, has he come? You know, I, you know, we fool 480 00:28:16,300 --> 00:28:21,000 around, you know, give her her thrilled, make her feel special, 481 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,400 and then the center offer her way, right? 482 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:27,800 But, you know, it was nothing compared to my mom, which my mom 483 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:28,700 brought me. Right? 484 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,200 Right. Yeah, this is huge. 485 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:37,100 It was Huge number that you told me a funny story about your dad 486 00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:41,500 and you held his vacuum cleaner hostage, just kind of a funny 487 00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:43,800 story. I heard all that was, that was a 488 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:51,700 time. I had had a, I had a extorted 489 00:28:51,700 --> 00:28:58,500 somebody and it got really ugly between me and this being this 490 00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:02,500 person here that I had extorted for somebody. 491 00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,800 You end up getting a little Brave, still to pray for his own 492 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:11,600 good. Anyways, so couple of guys I was 493 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,300 have downtown I was in a club called Checkers me and a couple 494 00:29:15,300 --> 00:29:17,800 people with me. One of them guys was my 495 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:23,200 brother-in-law Jamie and here comes a couple of good people 496 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:28,300 that I knew and they said, hey Davey is in the the guide the 497 00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:31,100 guy that I they're they're talking for the guy that I 498 00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:34,100 extorted there. See. - and then you guys went 499 00:29:34,100 --> 00:29:37,200 you meet up with him and straighten this out, you know? 500 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,700 Because what I did is when I extorted him and got the money 501 00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:44,000 that I had to get from them, I took his jewelry to you had some 502 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,900 expensive expensive jewelry on on the like confiscated on them 503 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,800 and was to him. It was very sentimental. 504 00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:54,400 I didn't know that I just saw the I just saw you know Flash 505 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,000 and they were telling me that you know sentimental and you 506 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,500 know you like them back and give me I thought I had with him. 507 00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:04,800 I ain't get nothing. You know, and these two guys I 508 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,000 had respect for, right? So they, you know, they had it 509 00:30:08,008 --> 00:30:10,600 must have had a deal with this guy to come, you know, 510 00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:13,000 straighten this out with me. So I said, okay, I'll go talk 511 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:17,200 with the guy, but yeah, so me and my brother-in-law had and I 512 00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:22,100 had this Italian guy with me, we will go, they go to his car 513 00:30:22,100 --> 00:30:24,200 there and on the outside of the car. 514 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,600 But the guy, I'm with my brother-in-law's, he's smart. 515 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,800 He stays with by my side, but the guy he made Italian guy. 516 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,800 He goes inside the guy, hits the gas, And takes off with the 517 00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:39,000 dude, right? So my oh my God, and I see a, he 518 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,600 takes a takes off, and he's parked on about a block down the 519 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,800 street, where I, where we were talking. 520 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:48,600 So I'm running toward me. My brother-in-law were running 521 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:54,000 towards this car, where it was parked and I, you know, start 522 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:57,900 cursing at B for taking off like this and grab my friends. 523 00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:00,900 Get out of the car, you asshole. So what soon as he gets out of 524 00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:05,700 the car, In the both 10 feet behind me. 525 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:10,200 Hey, you are assholes and all you can hear is gunshots and 526 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,700 bullets, wine, you know, bing bing bing. 527 00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:15,400 And we're running now. And you can just hear the 528 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:19,400 bullets hitting, you know, glass and wow, who was shooting? 529 00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:23,400 Well, that's the thing. If you did the, the they had it 530 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,200 all planned out to the car and he was going to stop there. 531 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:32,000 And then they were going to shoot it, it was a setup. 532 00:31:32,500 --> 00:31:36,000 It was a setup but I like I wasn't going in the car. 533 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,200 No better to going in somebody's car, but the guy I was with he 534 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,500 he didn't, he was just like I said, a stupid anyway, so weak. 535 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,200 I got it. We, we got out of there safe. 536 00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:49,800 So anyway, so not, I tell my friend, who the guy I said, 537 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:54,900 okay, drive me, I knew some, you know, some bikers I said, take 538 00:31:54,900 --> 00:31:58,400 me to the to some people that I know, which were bikers, right? 539 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,700 So I'll go down there and I had and I The Groovy that I had I 540 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:07,700 ended up selling it for a bunch of weapons, right? 541 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:11,600 I called you dear. I have a bunch of for gear, 542 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,600 right? Anyway. 543 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,100 So I said, I think it's now I could myself as, like I'm really 544 00:32:17,100 --> 00:32:20,200 pissed and I don't worry, I don't want this on me. 545 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,400 Anyways, no more because now, this is gonna be evidence in 546 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,400 case I kill this guy, right? I don't want this no more this 547 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,400 just jewelry. So I'm using this for come for 548 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,300 money, right? So I buy all this weapon tree in 549 00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:32,200 that monition and all this stuff. 550 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,200 Really need. I have a, I bought. 551 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,800 So anyway, so I serve as soon as I had everything I said to my 552 00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,500 buddy, okay, I'll take me to take me to my house, my dad's 553 00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:44,100 place. So you drive me there and it was 554 00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:48,600 late at night and So I, you know, I caught a key and I go 555 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:55,900 down to the creek told because I my Dad's sleeping I thought and 556 00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:58,900 I go to the basement and I stashed it, you know, in the 557 00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:02,400 basement right. You know, I'll go back up the 558 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,100 stairs and I closed the piston door and I creep back outside 559 00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:08,600 and I go to the car and say, okay let's take out downtown, 560 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,400 you know, I did what I had to do. 561 00:33:11,900 --> 00:33:18,600 So, come morning time. So come Morning time comes. 562 00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:24,000 I'm on my way to my dad's house, to pick up my my gear, so I can 563 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,400 go take care of business. So I have my friend with me and 564 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,300 we drive on over to my dad's place. 565 00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:36,900 We parked the car. We've we both had them come with 566 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:40,000 me. So we go inside into the house, 567 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,200 I had them, stay at the front door, and there was my daddy's 568 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,200 in the kitchen sitting down having us copy this morning. 569 00:33:48,300 --> 00:33:51,200 I chose to my dad, you know. Hey Dad, how you doing, buddy? 570 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,700 I'm okay. It's okay cool. 571 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,100 You know? So anyways, I go down to the 572 00:33:56,100 --> 00:34:00,200 basement and Looking for the, you know, to get the gear and 573 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,100 and it's not there. And I'm like, what the hell? 574 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,900 And it's not there. So don't want to means one 575 00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:09,900 thing. My dad found it. 576 00:34:10,100 --> 00:34:14,400 Oh no. Oh yeah. so as I go back up the 577 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,699 stairs, nice, is that Where is it? 578 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,199 It was where's what I said? You know what I'm talking about. 579 00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:24,400 Where is it? And he's playing stupid. 580 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,600 My dad. Now there's a reason and and I 581 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,600 go, where's the, where's where's that? 582 00:34:32,900 --> 00:34:34,800 Where's that bag? You know what I'm talking about 583 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,900 that, where is it? He's, I don't know what you're 584 00:34:36,900 --> 00:34:40,000 talking about, and, you know, he's playing playing dumb to me. 585 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,699 So while I see it, vacuum cleaner. 586 00:34:41,699 --> 00:34:43,800 Has this vacuum cleaner that he just allowed. 587 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,600 It was a filter Queen. You pay like $500 for think. 588 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,100 My mom had a filter clean too. She loved it too. 589 00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,200 And I take off down the hall with him. 590 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,500 I died. Hey, you Mafia bastard. 591 00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:03,300 Where you going my vacuum cleaner? 592 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:09,100 I took my buddy open the door, so we we, we scurried out the 593 00:35:09,100 --> 00:35:10,800 door and I got his vacuum cleaner. 594 00:35:11,300 --> 00:35:14,500 I throw in the car and I take off with the vacuum cleaner, so 595 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:16,300 I we go a couple blocks. I said, pull over. 596 00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:19,000 I want to use a phone back, then it was payphones. 597 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,800 So I go to a pay phone and I said, I phoned my dad up as his 598 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:28,000 dad, says he said, yeah. Hey, you Mafia bastard. 599 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,800 Bring me back my vacuum cleaner. I said, Dad. 600 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:35,400 I said I'll give you your vacuum cleaner but I want my stuff 601 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,200 back. I said you're playing stupid. 602 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,800 I used to hope. He says, listen David. 603 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,600 You bring me back my vacuum cleaner. 604 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,200 You understand? As that I'll bring it to you, I 605 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,400 have no problem being but I want it back. 606 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:50,600 This is I will give it to you but you have to come alone, 607 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,300 okay? I said, okay, I'll come along So 608 00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:59,600 anyway so we dragged me by tell my buddy to drive me back to the 609 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:00,800 house. I said you stay here. 610 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,200 Okay. He said yeah so I grabbed the 611 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,800 vacuum cleaner. No I don't you guys go to the 612 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,700 house first and I said, okay he says you got my vacuum cleaner. 613 00:36:09,700 --> 00:36:12,000 I said yes. That he says, I don't see it. 614 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,100 That's, it's at the cars. Don't go get it. 615 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,600 I said that, if I get it, you're going to give me my bag. 616 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:17,800 He says, yes, I'll give it to you. 617 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,300 I promise. This is okay people to come 618 00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:23,000 along. I said, okay, okay, now I wasn't 619 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,300 getting Coming alone at first, right? 620 00:36:26,500 --> 00:36:29,200 So I go back to the car. I go. 621 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,700 Grab the vacuum cleaner. I bring it to the house, it's 622 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:36,600 just lock the door, that's okay. I locked the door and I give me 623 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,200 his vacuum cleaner and a big exchange. 624 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:47,800 He gives me the open it up. Check to make sure everything is 625 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,500 there. So yeah, okay, so I opened it up 626 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,400 and know what they're all. Clean. 627 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,700 Wow. Here they are. 628 00:36:55,700 --> 00:36:58,700 All oiled dwell my heart just melted. 629 00:36:58,900 --> 00:37:02,400 He says, David David, he says he's to call me these man. 630 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,000 He used to call me Mafia bastard, right? 631 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:09,200 Because because that's what he is, is linking was beside my 632 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,700 friends, right? He says this, you Mafia bastard. 633 00:37:12,700 --> 00:37:14,900 He's and I don't know what you're going to do with this 634 00:37:14,900 --> 00:37:17,500 stuff. He says, he says you're going to 635 00:37:17,500 --> 00:37:19,100 kill somebody. I don't know. 636 00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:23,000 He says and you brought somebody here and they and if you guys 637 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,200 get a Arrested. He's going to tell the police 638 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,600 that I gave you all this weapons, right? 639 00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:29,300 Okay. Where'd you get the gun? 640 00:37:29,300 --> 00:37:32,900 What I was even thinking, you know, mister, mister intelligent 641 00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:35,200 here, you know, I felt like that. 642 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,900 He'll man, right? I said, I was so apologetic to 643 00:37:38,908 --> 00:37:41,200 my dad. I said, yeah, Dad, I'm so so 644 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,400 sorry. And you know what? 645 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,200 I gave you old, man? A hug and a kiss. 646 00:37:46,700 --> 00:37:48,800 And you know what? He was, he was almost at, you 647 00:37:48,808 --> 00:37:51,500 could see the tears in his eyes. He was so concerned about me, he 648 00:37:51,500 --> 00:37:54,100 says, please be careful. I'll be real careful. 649 00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:57,500 I'll tell Kate that. It's no big deal, but yeah, it 650 00:37:57,500 --> 00:38:00,600 was. But I tell you is, he was quite 651 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,900 a trip overseas. Vacuum cleaner, man, I tell you, 652 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:06,300 he loved that vacuum cleaner. But you know what, man? 653 00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,700 He loved me more because he had those guns. 654 00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,200 Whose guns were shiny clean man. They were like 655 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:19,500 brand-spanking-new. Yeah, my I was my heart melted 656 00:38:19,500 --> 00:38:24,600 man, my heart melted. Yeah, you know, I can tell he 657 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,100 was absolutely right. He was absolutely not, I was not 658 00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:30,900 thinking, I was not thinking I was, you know, I was had so much 659 00:38:30,900 --> 00:38:34,100 pressure going on, you know, I had, but I was just running out 660 00:38:34,100 --> 00:38:36,200 of bullets. Flying over my God, your day 661 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,600 before, you know, I mean, I mean, like, I was the weird 662 00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:42,900 dodging bullets, man. You can see Pottery breaking 663 00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:47,400 from the missing me, you know? And yeah, I had a lot on my mind 664 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,700 that day, man. And I wasn't thinking just 665 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,600 seeing all these my Yeah, just wasn't thinking my dad was doing 666 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,400 the thinking. God bless his soul. 667 00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,200 Yeah. So it, but it was quite a story 668 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,500 over those vacuum cleaner. Those, it was, it has come it. 669 00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:05,800 Had its comments? Come on, tell me it's comedy, 670 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,100 but but again, he was looking out for your best interest and 671 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:11,700 and himself that. Yeah, of course, yeah. 672 00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:17,300 More than me. I would, you know, I wouldn't 673 00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:21,300 want anything to happen to my father, you know, that's a yeah. 674 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:24,000 So, No, no, he did the right thing, man. 675 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,800 He did the right thing. And yeah, I never forget this 676 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,100 story when I was never get to store. 677 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:34,500 I'm glad I was able to say it for sure your boxing match. 678 00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:38,400 Your you dedicated day that fight to your dad when you break 679 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,000 down the circumstance of training for the fight, all the 680 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,700 obstacles that you had overcome and then ultimately winning. 681 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,700 You know, the wash. Well yeah, well remember this 682 00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:51,500 just happened this incident with the back. 683 00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:56,900 Happened in 1988 34 somewhere on that. 684 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,300 And now I'm doing I just finished doing time to. 685 00:40:00,300 --> 00:40:05,200 I just finished doing 12 years in the penitentiary and I'm 686 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:10,500 getting ready for a fight. A Commando Challenge fight, u.s. 687 00:40:10,500 --> 00:40:15,200 u.s. military versus The World Elite military. 688 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,400 So this is me. Yeah, this is supposed to be a 689 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,500 military personnel. Active military personnel. 690 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,000 Annelle, right? And gnana and non active 691 00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,400 Personnel military personnel. Fighting against each other, 692 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,000 right? April it was a Pay-Per-View 693 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:33,600 event and I got on this fight card because this guy knocked 694 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:38,900 out a Canadian and the promoter wanted somebody to Revenge this 695 00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:41,300 loss for Canada right now. Yeah. 696 00:40:41,500 --> 00:40:46,200 So anyways, so I'm training for this fight and this was in the 697 00:40:46,207 --> 00:40:51,500 summer time of July. No June, I was trained. 698 00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:54,500 This, why I got the nod for the fight in June? 699 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,200 And the fight was in August, August 10th, or something like 700 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:02,000 that. My dad's birthday was July 22nd. 701 00:41:02,900 --> 00:41:07,100 So, come July 4th, I get a phone call. 702 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:11,400 I was in Vancouver that my father had passed away my crown 703 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:19,100 says thank you. And yeah, I had to, I had to 704 00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:21,400 stop training and had to go to church. 705 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:27,600 Toronto and take care of my father and my father, his last 706 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,800 wishes was to be buried back in Malta. 707 00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:33,200 Well, that's where he was born. And that's where my mother was 708 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,700 from and when you know, same island. 709 00:41:37,100 --> 00:41:41,800 So my mother, I had brought my mother with me to Toronto and we 710 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:46,400 did showed my father there and to family and friends there. 711 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,900 And and then I flew his body to Malta. 712 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,200 And when I was a multi, you know, I did my road work and, 713 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:56,900 you know, I still trained on the weights but no boxing just kept 714 00:41:56,900 --> 00:42:01,300 myself, strong and that right. And now lets, you know, Late 715 00:42:01,300 --> 00:42:05,800 July and the I had to get back to Vancouver. 716 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,500 I figured well, you know, I can do a week of sparring there 717 00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:12,700 then, you know, I can make my way to North Dakota because 718 00:42:12,700 --> 00:42:15,300 that's where the fight was in North Carolina, right? 719 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,100 If there's an army base there and a big place. 720 00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:23,300 That's where we were fighting in the Pay-Per-View. they're so I 721 00:42:23,300 --> 00:42:29,100 flew back to Vancouver and I did a week of training in Vancouver 722 00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:37,800 and then once the might, you know, ready to fly out to to a 723 00:42:37,808 --> 00:42:41,600 North Carolina and all that I, you know, I made my way to the 724 00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:47,600 border and because I didn't leave from Vancouver because I 725 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,500 had a criminal record of course. And I want to see if I would be 726 00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:53,800 able to make it. So I planned a to go on a bus 727 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,300 and then if I made it and I have it might take it would be in the 728 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,500 airport in Seattle, which I met, right? 729 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,100 So anyway so I made it to Seattle I mean I made it to 730 00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:10,600 North Carolina I was there for a week doing promotions and I did 731 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:15,700 the fight to I ended up knocking this guy out and 56 seconds of 732 00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:17,200 the first round. Wow. 733 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,100 Yeah. Is it was a big deal. 734 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,300 He sent me a video of him going to post it on my Vancouver. 735 00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:28,300 True Crime, Instagram page so the listeners can watch that 736 00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:30,100 clip. Good good. 737 00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:33,000 Yeah it was it sad. Don't blink like I said I 738 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,700 knocked him out in 56 seconds so yeah it's good. 739 00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:40,000 I had a lot to I wasn't at first wasn't gonna go to this fight, 740 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,100 you know. I but it with my good friend 741 00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:46,000 recall, God bless his soul. He, you know, he he he told me, 742 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:49,900 he said, Davy says you go. He says, he's because if we 743 00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:54,000 don't go, Dave, you're gonna Somebody man because he knows 744 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,300 me, you know, she says you need a release right? 745 00:43:57,300 --> 00:43:59,800 It's a good out well for you. Yeah, he said you can go hurt 746 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,500 this guy legally buddy, he was roughly right. 747 00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:06,300 You know I needed to I need her to go hurt somebody. 748 00:44:06,300 --> 00:44:09,100 You know, I need to go hard somebody that's because that's 749 00:44:09,100 --> 00:44:15,400 who I was back then. I was, I had mental issues and I 750 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,900 needed to hurt somebody and I did go hurt somebody. 751 00:44:17,900 --> 00:44:20,200 I heard this guy knocked him out in the first round. 752 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,800 And the strange thing was get home before the fight, you know, 753 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,000 after the fight before the fight, we said after the fight 754 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,100 because we were there for a week. 755 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:29,700 So we've got the meat ever each other. 756 00:44:29,700 --> 00:44:32,600 And, you know, because we're promoting this fight and this 757 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,800 guy's name was Jacob Sellers and the day before the fight that 758 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,000 they had, that they have the fight he says to me, hey, and 759 00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,800 the loser, buys the beer. I said, yeah. 760 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,100 Okay. Loser buys the beer. 761 00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:48,100 So anyways, so we're at the bar at the end of the night and he 762 00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:49,300 says to me. No Dave. 763 00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:55,300 He says Get a scar on his face. He got in a car accident and he 764 00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:58,600 had a big scar on his face. He said, he says, you know, what 765 00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,900 I do when I got in that car accident and my head hit the 766 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:04,700 steering wheel. Oh God this. 767 00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:07,800 Yeah, he says the punch was harder than that. 768 00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:10,300 The blow from the steering wheel. 769 00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:14,500 He said wow, and even at the bar he says I'm still screwed up. 770 00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:17,900 My mommy says I'm sorry. I still he I he was concussed 771 00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:18,800 right. Right. 772 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,200 Yeah, I can cus this guy. And you'll see that she 773 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,100 wouldn't. You see it on the way I dropped 774 00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:27,000 this guy Ray to his knees man. This guy was a tough Marine man. 775 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:31,100 Top murmuring, what weight class was it this was 100 and light. 776 00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:37,700 Heavyweight high was 107 33 pounds, and this guy was 173 777 00:45:37,700 --> 00:45:41,600 pounds, but he looked like he was about 200. 778 00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,500 This guy was all muscle man, right? 779 00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:45,400 Yeah, I remember remember the clip, yeah. 780 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:49,500 He was a big, dude. Yeah, he's just big to like with 781 00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:51,000 me, will give me. Full conference. 782 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:57,700 I was gonna knock this guy out was the day, we are the fight. 783 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:01,000 We got to train, we got to go loosen up, you know, you little 784 00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,800 bit, you know, and I was in the lobby and he came and I go, hey, 785 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,300 buddy, I just have a good workout. 786 00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:09,300 He goes. Yeah, I just spent three 787 00:46:09,300 --> 00:46:12,000 hundred, sixty five pounds for four reps. 788 00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:15,300 Wow. And I and I think exactly what. 789 00:46:15,300 --> 00:46:17,700 Yeah. And and the expression on my 790 00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:20,100 face, he thought I was doubting him, right? 791 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,000 Right? But you should know. 792 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,200 I did I did. And I said, oh, I believe you, 793 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,600 but my thing was, how stoked? Yeah. 794 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,600 It's wrong training for for boxing. 795 00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:31,900 Quebec you right before? Especially right. 796 00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:35,600 Yeah, I knew I was not going to mouth. 797 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,900 Yeah, I knew I was not going to mount because today he was the 798 00:46:40,900 --> 00:46:42,400 way he was punching. He was punching. 799 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,400 Because, you know, when you're not that your arms and you're 800 00:46:45,408 --> 00:46:47,500 pressing and he was punching like that. 801 00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:50,100 Yeah, I mean, I like to do is come straight down. 802 00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:54,100 It'll which I did and he come running into it on top of it and 803 00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:59,800 he came in, he got hit hard. So yeah, that was, yeah. 804 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,200 So that was like, that was for my dad, that fights, you know, 805 00:47:05,100 --> 00:47:08,700 you know, I always, I was hard on myself for a while because my 806 00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:10,600 dad was really concerned because I just got out of the 807 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:15,000 penitentiary, that was my first fight in boxing fight in 14 808 00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,300 years. And here I am. 809 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:19,400 Here, I am stepping in a Pay-Per-View event, right? 810 00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,900 And this is Guy just finished talking out of marine, right? 811 00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:24,900 And my dad, you know, he loves me, man. 812 00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:26,900 He's a damn. I know you're tough and, you 813 00:47:26,900 --> 00:47:30,400 know, you know, but, you know, it's just, you haven't fought 814 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,000 for 14 years and he know, he started. 815 00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000 My dad was an alcoholic, he drank beer, and and was because 816 00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,100 he would love me so much, and all he knew was, was to drink 817 00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:45,700 and he started drinking whiskey, you know, to to, because of his 818 00:47:45,700 --> 00:47:48,200 emotions and his nerves worried about me, right? 819 00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:52,800 He drank whiskey and it, I told them it just said, yeah and I 820 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,800 took it to heart thinking it was my fault which wasn't my small 821 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,600 lot of guilt around his death. Yeah, there was guilt there, 822 00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:00,500 right? Anyways. 823 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:07,500 Yeah, so yeah, I I, it made me feel good. 824 00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:11,700 That I know he saw in heaven. I know he's there. 825 00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:14,500 So yeah. Thanks for sharing the story. 826 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:17,300 You know, you sure. You've been very generous of 827 00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:20,000 like, you know, sharing you know really deep emotional and 828 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,200 personal. Personal stories on this podcast 829 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:25,100 and you know, listeners really love it and in there you know, I 830 00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:28,900 get a lot of feedback and it when I even when I post that I'm 831 00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:31,400 going to do a podcast with you, people are pretty excited about 832 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,500 it. So people are, you know, they're 833 00:48:32,500 --> 00:48:36,600 like, they're liking your stories and and I really 834 00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:41,200 appreciate you taking the time of you know, doing this and it's 835 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,300 really cool. Thank you. 836 00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:46,800 Well, it's my pleasure. You know, if there's one thing I 837 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:50,400 want out of this and in this podcast, if I could help, Some 838 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:53,700 one person, man, you know, like, listen, buddy, you know, they 839 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,700 are not. I'm not doing this to promote 840 00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:57,700 myself as I was up this bag, dude. 841 00:48:57,700 --> 00:49:00,000 And I, you know, some kind of hero. 842 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,900 No, no, no, amen. I survived a nightmare man. 843 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:08,300 And I said, I put my family to shit, you know I'm saying? 844 00:49:08,300 --> 00:49:11,300 Yeah, and they still stuck with, you really stuck with me. 845 00:49:11,300 --> 00:49:14,100 That's what the show is about, but there was this podcast 846 00:49:14,100 --> 00:49:16,400 about. So I'm trying to tell you, 847 00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:19,800 people, if you're out, if you're doing anything stupid, like I 848 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,300 was Doing up there then. Hey, man. 849 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,700 Listen, when you go down, when you get a few, if you get 850 00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:29,500 killed, that's if you don't get killed or you don't get 851 00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:32,200 crippled. If you don't know D, you know, 852 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,400 get out of it while you can. Yes. 853 00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:39,800 You know, I get out of it while you can because you know what? 854 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,600 It's your own your no way to study. 855 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,200 You know, no way everybody says they love you because you got a 856 00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:46,900 Dopey bag there and they're all your friends because you got a 857 00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:49,700 bag and you got money and you're buying the drinks. 858 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,000 When all that is gone. Yeah. 859 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,200 You're by yourself. You're by yourself. 860 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,900 They're not going to come and see you in jail. 861 00:49:55,900 --> 00:49:58,000 Then I had to come see you in the hospital. 862 00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:02,800 It's just your family. Yes, it's just your family man, 863 00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,000 so don't do it. Don't believe this. 864 00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:10,500 This lie about your feet, people telling you, they love you and 865 00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,200 they'll die for you and it'll kill for you. 866 00:50:13,300 --> 00:50:14,900 That's all bullshit. Yeah. 867 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:19,000 Don't believe that people. Okay, don't believe that all my 868 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,700 friends. Most Any of my friends that were 869 00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,900 down with me? They get their hands. 870 00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:27,400 There's not there's only one or two alive. 871 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:30,900 Everybody is dead. Yeah I like talking a lot of 872 00:50:30,900 --> 00:50:32,900 Crews. I've been with a lot of Crews. 873 00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:33,900 Yeah. I've been in this thing. 874 00:50:33,900 --> 00:50:38,100 You know, the time crew the Portuguese crew, the Greek crew 875 00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:40,100 the French Cruise. You know. 876 00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:42,900 I've been with a lot of Crews. You seen a lot of seen a lot 877 00:50:42,900 --> 00:50:45,400 yet. Seen a lot that I done a lot. 878 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:50,000 Yeah, I'm a true survivor. You know, God has a plan for me. 879 00:50:50,500 --> 00:50:53,900 And this is part of this plan, I believe is this podcast. 880 00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:56,400 So I just want to put that out there, Matt. 881 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,300 And if anybody you're listening to me, if you can get out of 882 00:51:00,300 --> 00:51:04,900 with your get out, get out of the why you can prefer, you 883 00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:08,100 know, that's all I got to say. God bless you all man. 884 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:10,700 Well, thank you David. I really appreciate your time 885 00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:12,900 and I look forward to continuing doing this with you. 886 00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:15,700 It's my honor. Thank you, my pleasure, thank 887 00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:17,200 you. God bless you, my friend, God 888 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:18,900 bless you out there, you take care. 889 00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:20,000 Yeah.