1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,640 You should probably watch this. It could save your life. 2 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:08,480 Do you feel safe? Do you take the sky train? 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,440 Maybe the subway? Do you ever walk around on town? 4 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:14,640 Do you honestly feel safe out there? 5 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:18,440 People getting stabbed at Starbucks, sword attacks, knife 6 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,520 attacks, People getting pushed in front of trains. 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,600 Somebody was set on fire in the Naima. 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:27,120 Just threw gas on her. You know as you do what's going 9 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,450 on in Canada. For the rest of the world, for 10 00:00:29,450 --> 00:00:31,010 that matter. Maybe you've seen that 11 00:00:31,010 --> 00:00:33,170 documentary by Aaron Gunn. Vancouver is dying. 12 00:00:37,050 --> 00:00:39,410 What about Canada is dying. You've seen that. 13 00:00:40,010 --> 00:00:41,970 What can you do? What should you do? 14 00:00:43,090 --> 00:00:44,890 Get a gun? Take up MMA? 15 00:00:45,450 --> 00:00:48,370 Learn to be a knife fighter. I'm a security professional. 16 00:00:48,970 --> 00:00:51,130 I'm a career bouncer. Well, the rest of you went off 17 00:00:51,130 --> 00:00:53,370 and got real jobs in offices and that sort of thing. 18 00:00:53,850 --> 00:00:56,610 Not me. No, I was working in bars and 19 00:00:56,610 --> 00:01:00,350 nightclubs and pubs. Running security crews in the 20 00:01:00,350 --> 00:01:02,790 early 2000s BC had a serious gang problem. 21 00:01:03,070 --> 00:01:05,670 It was the Wild West. Eventually it devolved into one 22 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:08,670 hell of a bloody war, bodies buried all over the place. 23 00:01:08,950 --> 00:01:10,670 How was the doorman at Ground Zero? 24 00:01:11,070 --> 00:01:13,910 I learned to be a bouncer and a doorman at Area 51 in 25 00:01:13,910 --> 00:01:17,270 Chilliwack, BC, with the home base of the notorious UN gang. 26 00:01:17,750 --> 00:01:19,390 Now eventually I became head of security. 27 00:01:20,190 --> 00:01:23,310 Then I got fired, but I got immediately rehired by their 28 00:01:23,310 --> 00:01:24,710 competition. Good times. 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,840 They were more of a hub and included a whole bunch of gangs 30 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:32,200 CUN independent soldiers, Red Scorpions, Hells Angels, Bacon 31 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,840 Brothers. I even saw some Bandidos once. 32 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,560 No shit. What is this Tijuana? 33 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,160 There was a melting pot of violence and insanity. 34 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:42,840 When I look back on it was absolutely bananas. 35 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,160 I'm amazed to this day that nobody got killed. 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,640 If you want to learn more about that time and how truly violent 37 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,280 it was, check out Hood Chronicles on YouTube. 38 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Pretty good channel with some really interesting content about 39 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,360 crime and crime in Canada. Take a look at Clay Rouge, Bc's 40 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,200 King of Bud and the Bacon Brothers. 41 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:04,280 My story takes place between those two. 42 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,600 How did I keep my little corner of the world safe? 43 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,080 I wasn't wearing body armor. I didn't have a radio. 44 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,840 I didn't have a gun or a Taser. I didn't have fifty other guys 45 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,800 with guns or Tasers. The cops didn't have 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:17,120 teleporters, Not everybody had a cell phone and nobody had a 47 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,240 camera in their pocket. The first thing I realized is 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,080 that fighting. Is dumb. 49 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:24,320 And I was a champion martial artist. 50 00:02:24,640 --> 00:02:27,120 I'd even been in the army. If you don't know what I'm 51 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,280 talking about, then you've never been in a real fight. 52 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,520 You never want to be in a fight. Fights are about ego. 53 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,480 You can see fights, you can avoid fights. 54 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,360 You should avoid fights. You'd think my job was to 55 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,600 basically break up fights, but that's not really why I was 56 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,320 there. What was I really worried about? 57 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,960 Predators. How did predators attack? 58 00:02:53,750 --> 00:02:55,550 I don't understand. The cheetah tried kicking him in 59 00:02:55,550 --> 00:02:57,030 the face and biting him in the head. 60 00:02:57,430 --> 00:02:58,790 Can't imagine why that didn't work. 61 00:02:59,150 --> 00:03:01,710 Maybe if he just paid attention more in karate class. 62 00:03:01,950 --> 00:03:04,230 If your plan is to fight the crocodile after it's bitten you 63 00:03:04,230 --> 00:03:07,070 around the neck with respect, you're getting dragged to the 64 00:03:07,070 --> 00:03:09,110 bottom and spun to pieces in the dark. 65 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:12,110 Maybe you think the cheetah's selfdefense situation started 66 00:03:12,110 --> 00:03:14,550 when he first noticed the crocodile and started hissing at 67 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:16,110 him. That's so close to the 68 00:03:16,110 --> 00:03:20,910 crocodile. Nope. 69 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:24,720 I can understand why you'd say that. 70 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,560 And that's probably because you've never really seen a 71 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,560 crocodile, even if you know they exist. 72 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,720 That cheetah's self-defense situation started before he ever 73 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,280 went to the water. Pack of lions, doesn't surround 74 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,880 the water Buffalo and then challenge him to a duel. 75 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:40,800 See, predators, real predators, they don't fight you, they 76 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,240 attack from stealth. Always. 77 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:47,600 Buffalo are huge, strong. The last thing the lion wants to 78 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,440 do is fight the water Buffalo. They confuse it, they surprise 79 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,720 it, they misdirect it, they overwhelm it. 80 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:57,320 That's how predators attack in a world of gangsters, just like 81 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,440 nature, the sucker puncher is king. 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,200 If somebody smashes a corona bottle up the side of your head 83 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,680 and then starts kicking you, unless somebody pulls them off, 84 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,560 you're just as dead as the cheetah. 85 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,000 That's what you should be looking out for. 86 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:12,000 The people out there, the ones that you're afraid of, they 87 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,530 attack the same way. In my experience, one of the 88 00:04:14,530 --> 00:04:18,010 best things that you can do to increase your personal safety is 89 00:04:18,010 --> 00:04:21,089 cultivate uncertainty. That pack of lions? 90 00:04:21,290 --> 00:04:24,490 They won't attack the water Buffalo unless they're sure you 91 00:04:24,490 --> 00:04:26,770 have to make your opponent unsure. 92 00:04:27,170 --> 00:04:28,770 If they don't think they're going to get away with it, 93 00:04:29,130 --> 00:04:31,330 they're probably not going to attack you in the 1st place. 94 00:04:31,610 --> 00:04:34,410 If you encounter somebody that you perceive as a threat, what 95 00:04:34,410 --> 00:04:35,770 are you signaling to that person? 96 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:37,690 What are you saying without saying? 97 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:40,890 If they look at you and they see a victim, well, guess what? 98 00:04:41,090 --> 00:04:42,890 They're far more likely to attack you. 99 00:04:43,580 --> 00:04:46,660 People who look like victims get victimized. 100 00:04:46,940 --> 00:04:50,100 Before the attack, you must appear strong and confident, 101 00:04:50,660 --> 00:04:53,740 even if you're not. Even if you're scared shitless. 102 00:04:54,140 --> 00:04:56,700 Don't get small, don't stare at the ground. 103 00:04:56,980 --> 00:04:58,780 Don't bury your nose in your phone and. 104 00:04:58,780 --> 00:05:01,420 Hope they go away. The predator needs to know that 105 00:05:01,420 --> 00:05:03,380 you see them, that you're ready for them. 106 00:05:03,580 --> 00:05:06,500 If you can do that, most of them will just go look for someone 107 00:05:06,500 --> 00:05:08,740 else. Wherever you go, you walk like 108 00:05:08,740 --> 00:05:11,840 you're supposed to be there. One of the simplest and most 109 00:05:11,840 --> 00:05:14,520 obvious ways that you can increase your uncertainty is 110 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:18,040 simply by looking around you. It's amazing to me how few 111 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:21,080 people actually do this. Most people blithely wander 112 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,160 through life totally oblivious to what's happening around them. 113 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,440 If you cross the street while staring at your phone, you 114 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:31,080 deserve to be hit by a car. That's how bad guys think? 115 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,960 Do you understand? Don't make it easy for them. 116 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:35,640 It's probably going to get worse. 117 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:39,040 How can I confidently say that? Because the people with all the 118 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,840 money and all the power in the world, the ones who have openly 119 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:44,320 bragged about penetrating governments, including mine, the 120 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,560 ones who are directly responsible for the policies 121 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,840 that are doing this to our cities, have told us so. 122 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:51,800 And I found one of the best ways to know what somebody's about 123 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,600 what they're thinking, what they're afraid of, and what 124 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,000 they're planning to do is just by listening to them when they 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,210 talk. So before I go on, leave you 126 00:05:59,210 --> 00:06:01,290 with one last thing and this last thing will give you some 127 00:06:01,290 --> 00:06:03,890 more self-defense options for some worst case scenarios and 128 00:06:03,890 --> 00:06:06,690 hopefully go a little way into helping us all cultivate some 129 00:06:06,690 --> 00:06:09,490 uncertainty when it comes to the people that are actually doing 130 00:06:09,490 --> 00:06:10,130 this to. Us. 131 00:06:10,780 --> 00:06:13,300 When you're finished this video, I suggest that you go on YouTube 132 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:17,100 and you look up Israeli limited penetration entry or limited 133 00:06:17,100 --> 00:06:19,420 penetration entry. What is that? 134 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:22,820 Well, essentially it's a super sneaky way that SWAT teams and 135 00:06:22,820 --> 00:06:25,860 special forces enter rooms when they're really sure that there's 136 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:28,140 probably going to be somebody on the inside that's going to shoot 137 00:06:28,140 --> 00:06:31,220 at them. What? 138 00:06:32,500 --> 00:06:34,900 Richard, are you insane? Why are you sending us to 139 00:06:34,900 --> 00:06:37,940 YouTube to look up SWAT team entry tactics? 140 00:06:39,380 --> 00:06:41,570 Here's the thing. Simultaneously, while I was 141 00:06:41,570 --> 00:06:44,450 working in the bars, I was also working in film and I did a very 142 00:06:44,450 --> 00:06:47,210 specific type of work. I did military maneuvers and 143 00:06:47,210 --> 00:06:49,370 SWAT team type stuff. I worked with specialized 144 00:06:49,370 --> 00:06:51,170 agencies and brought in professionals and 145 00:06:51,170 --> 00:06:53,810 exprofessionals to teach and train us to do these things so 146 00:06:53,810 --> 00:06:56,930 that we could replicate them on camera over and over and over 147 00:06:56,930 --> 00:06:59,050 again as authentically as possible. 148 00:06:59,130 --> 00:07:00,970 Now stay with me. If you know what the 149 00:07:00,970 --> 00:07:05,130 professionals do and why they do it, you could ask yourself what 150 00:07:05,130 --> 00:07:07,680 could I use it for? If you know that this is the 151 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,600 specific technique that the professionals use to go into the 152 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,360 room and kill the monster, and they use it because it has the 153 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:16,160 highest chance for them to possibly sneak up on that 154 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:19,800 monster, well then maybe you could use it to sneak by the 155 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:22,120 room in the 1st place. I don't know about you, but if 156 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,680 there's a monster in the next room, I want to know how to 157 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,600 sneak by that room the second thing you could potentially. 158 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,230 Use this for. Is maybe talking to the monster 159 00:07:30,230 --> 00:07:32,590 in the first place. In my experience, you actually 160 00:07:32,590 --> 00:07:35,310 can talk to monsters. You can talk to psychopaths and 161 00:07:35,310 --> 00:07:38,030 killers, even in the moment, even when they're willing and 162 00:07:38,030 --> 00:07:40,830 ready to use violence. But in order to get them to hear 163 00:07:40,830 --> 00:07:43,310 you, you need to stack advantages, and those advantages 164 00:07:43,310 --> 00:07:46,190 need to meet or exceed whatever advantages they perceive they 165 00:07:46,190 --> 00:07:48,270 have themselves. If you can do that. 166 00:07:48,430 --> 00:07:50,390 You're going to cultivate uncertainty. 167 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:52,670 That person's going to become unsure of themselves. 168 00:07:52,910 --> 00:07:55,830 And at that moment, if you offer that person an alternative, a 169 00:07:55,870 --> 00:07:58,500 way out. They're probably going to take 170 00:07:58,500 --> 00:08:01,620 it, but I can tell you in my experience, without question, 171 00:08:01,620 --> 00:08:04,020 the people that tend not to get messed with when it comes to 172 00:08:04,020 --> 00:08:07,380 douchebags, sucker punchers, and predators are the people who are 173 00:08:07,380 --> 00:08:10,540 obviously capable of great violence but choose not to use 174 00:08:10,540 --> 00:08:11,980 it. It's like the people who taught 175 00:08:11,980 --> 00:08:13,740 me to do these things in the 1st place. 176 00:08:13,900 --> 00:08:17,180 Formidable people, serious serious people. 177 00:08:17,180 --> 00:08:19,820 Some of them could kill you in 100 ways before you ever knew 178 00:08:19,820 --> 00:08:22,350 what hit you. But they choose not to do that. 179 00:08:22,590 --> 00:08:26,350 In fact, they literally save those skills to protect the 180 00:08:26,350 --> 00:08:28,470 people that are in their immediate vicinity. 181 00:08:29,990 --> 00:08:34,390 That demands your respect. You're literally safer just by 182 00:08:34,390 --> 00:08:37,070 being near them, and you can be that too. 183 00:08:37,309 --> 00:08:40,070 You don't have to run towards the bullets like they do. 184 00:08:40,429 --> 00:08:43,110 You just have to make yourself an uncertainty and pay 185 00:08:43,110 --> 00:08:45,750 attention. And if you do those things, then 186 00:08:45,750 --> 00:08:49,070 all the people around you are safer as well, and the more 187 00:08:49,070 --> 00:08:51,610 people that do that. The safer we all are. 188 00:08:52,010 --> 00:08:54,690 Here's the cool part. You see, you don't even need to 189 00:08:54,690 --> 00:08:57,210 technically look up when I just told you to look up is really 190 00:08:57,210 --> 00:08:59,250 limited penetration, and I hope that you do. 191 00:08:59,250 --> 00:09:01,330 I suggest that you do. But even if you don't, it 192 00:09:01,330 --> 00:09:03,210 doesn't really matter. Why not? 193 00:09:03,490 --> 00:09:07,530 Because just by watching this video, you've already become an 194 00:09:07,530 --> 00:09:09,810 uncertainty. Cool, right? 195 00:09:10,430 --> 00:09:12,830 See, the powers that be, the ones that are watching and 196 00:09:12,830 --> 00:09:15,750 keeping track have no way of knowing if you decided to follow 197 00:09:15,750 --> 00:09:17,430 up or not. They don't know if you went and 198 00:09:17,430 --> 00:09:19,830 watched a whole bunch of videos and then took the time to get 199 00:09:19,830 --> 00:09:22,190 good or didn't bother to look in the 1st place. 200 00:09:22,470 --> 00:09:23,910 All they're going to see is view count. 201 00:09:23,910 --> 00:09:26,430 Millions of people see a video like this and all of a sudden 202 00:09:26,430 --> 00:09:28,790 decide to start looking into things like Israeli Limited 203 00:09:28,790 --> 00:09:31,110 Penetration. Well, that sends one hell of a 204 00:09:31,110 --> 00:09:33,150 powerful message, don't you think? 205 00:09:34,070 --> 00:09:36,070 If you're in the Lower Mainland and you'd like to learn more 206 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:38,510 about my self-defense, psychology, tips, tricks, things 207 00:09:38,510 --> 00:09:41,540 I've learned over the years. The escalation techniques I know 208 00:09:41,540 --> 00:09:44,700 to be effective, becoming an uncertainty, how to efficiently 209 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:47,420 move with the firearm and maybe some John Wick reloads. 210 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:50,820 Contact me on any of my social media accounts. 211 00:09:51,060 --> 00:09:53,340 I'm willing to come see you personally, or if you prefer, 212 00:09:53,500 --> 00:09:56,500 set up a group, find a venue and we'll have a chat. 213 00:09:57,220 --> 00:09:59,860 The rest of you out there share the shit out of this video 214 00:10:00,060 --> 00:10:02,580 because the more eyeballs that see it, the bigger statement we 215 00:10:02,580 --> 00:10:05,700 make and the more of an uncertainty we all become and 216 00:10:05,700 --> 00:10:08,010 this great reset. It only works if we all stay 217 00:10:08,010 --> 00:10:11,770 scared, stupid and helpless. So let's stop looking like food, 218 00:10:12,570 --> 00:10:15,210 stay safe out there and subscribe for more content. 219 00:10:22,770 --> 00:10:24,370 Share the shit out of this video. 220 00:10:25,690 --> 00:10:28,610 Welcome to Vancouver True Crime. I have a very special guest. 221 00:10:28,650 --> 00:10:31,250 A security expert name is Richard Thompson. 222 00:10:31,560 --> 00:10:35,160 I posted his video because we're in a strange kind of time in 223 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,240 Vancouver. Random violence, pepper 224 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:41,400 spraying, windows being smashed, do crazy stuff on the sky train, 225 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,400 the buses. From the video that Richard 226 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,880 made, I thought he had some real common sense advice and he 227 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:51,960 really broke it down well. And so I thought he'd be a great 228 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:53,760 person to have a conversation with. 229 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,160 So, Richard, thank you so much for coming on Vancouver True 230 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:57,560 crime. Amazing video. 231 00:10:57,560 --> 00:10:58,600 I really liked it. Got you. 232 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,690 Thanks for having me man. You work in security, you run 233 00:11:02,690 --> 00:11:05,690 security crews and nightclubs and stuff, and I had a little 234 00:11:05,690 --> 00:11:07,290 bit of that. I was telling about some of the 235 00:11:07,290 --> 00:11:09,410 old bars I worked at the Club Paradise. 236 00:11:09,410 --> 00:11:11,650 I actually remember Bindi Jo Hold. 237 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,920 Came to my club. This was exit with this crew. 238 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:18,840 And yeah, he didn't. He we emptied up the club pretty 239 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,560 fast and then I took a night off and then one of his associates 240 00:11:22,560 --> 00:11:24,560 shot someone in the club, but I wasn't there. 241 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:26,560 So that's the closest I ever came to a shooting. 242 00:11:26,560 --> 00:11:29,080 Thank God, right? But it's a different time now, 243 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,960 isn't? It well, yeah, absolutely. 244 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:35,000 It is okay. So as far as my my background, I 245 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:40,670 started bouncing 2000 and 2001. Yeah, so I started back then and 246 00:11:40,670 --> 00:11:44,990 I started in Chilliwack, which just so happened to be like the 247 00:11:44,990 --> 00:11:50,230 Nexus at that time for pretty much the drug trade in BC You 248 00:11:50,230 --> 00:11:52,310 know, most of the banks were kicked out of the city around 249 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:55,670 that time, and they would congregate out in Chilliwack. 250 00:11:55,670 --> 00:11:57,870 In fact, the UN essentially started there. 251 00:11:58,230 --> 00:12:02,030 Right. Home base, so I didn't know any 252 00:12:02,030 --> 00:12:06,430 different and when I started I didn't realize how how nuts the 253 00:12:06,430 --> 00:12:08,310 situation was. This was just. 254 00:12:09,070 --> 00:12:12,350 What I was doing, but I I was, I was a tough kid. 255 00:12:12,350 --> 00:12:15,830 I was a martial artist kid. I I was champion martial artist. 256 00:12:15,830 --> 00:12:18,510 I wanted a lot of gold medals and and I was in the army as 257 00:12:18,510 --> 00:12:22,630 well and and I thought I had a handle on things Right then. 258 00:12:22,630 --> 00:12:25,790 It wasn't until I saw real violence that I realized what 259 00:12:25,790 --> 00:12:29,990 the hell the stakes were, that it forced me to become a 260 00:12:29,990 --> 00:12:33,870 different kind of bouncer. And so over the next you know 261 00:12:33,870 --> 00:12:36,630 four or five years that I was there, I moved to competition 262 00:12:36,630 --> 00:12:38,390 and and dealt with their problems there. 263 00:12:38,870 --> 00:12:41,390 Essentially ended up downtown and that the lessons that I 264 00:12:41,390 --> 00:12:45,790 learned in those, you know, those those first 5-6 years 265 00:12:45,870 --> 00:12:49,510 saved my ass. Yeah, not only saved my ass, but 266 00:12:49,510 --> 00:12:52,910 a lot of other folks as well. Those lessons I think now are 267 00:12:52,910 --> 00:12:56,350 very relevant to people walking around the city. 268 00:12:56,390 --> 00:12:58,870 This one start rough. There was definitely very tough 269 00:12:58,870 --> 00:13:00,910 dudes. I try cuz it cuz nothing was 270 00:13:00,910 --> 00:13:03,670 worse is that he throws them up and they all come back the next 271 00:13:03,670 --> 00:13:06,110 time and then there's like this, you know this just tension 272 00:13:06,110 --> 00:13:07,270 right? Your egg shells, right? 273 00:13:07,730 --> 00:13:10,170 Generally speaking, like you try to use your. 274 00:13:10,170 --> 00:13:15,010 Words rather than just the OR you know, if you you know if you 275 00:13:15,010 --> 00:13:18,130 try to fight every thug and drought that you meet, you're 276 00:13:18,130 --> 00:13:20,410 going to get beat real quick or end up in jail. 277 00:13:21,770 --> 00:13:25,410 You have to be diplomatic and intelligent about what you do 278 00:13:25,410 --> 00:13:29,890 and and very careful about whatever force you use and when 279 00:13:29,890 --> 00:13:34,430 you use it. But at the same time, you have 280 00:13:34,430 --> 00:13:36,950 to understand that sometimes you're going to have to use it 281 00:13:36,990 --> 00:13:39,630 and yeah, willing to do so and be capable. 282 00:13:39,830 --> 00:13:42,550 Because if you're, you know, you're not quite willing or 283 00:13:42,550 --> 00:13:45,590 whatever, and you're up against somebody who is you're. 284 00:13:45,910 --> 00:13:48,390 In serious trouble when I was talked to, we actually hired a 285 00:13:48,910 --> 00:13:51,710 e-mail bouncer like OK, the women were like because they get 286 00:13:51,710 --> 00:13:53,550 we had this night. I remember one of the nights I 287 00:13:53,550 --> 00:13:57,910 worked at, they had the $2.00 shooter nights and all just. 288 00:13:58,730 --> 00:14:02,490 And then we were near a college, the New West, the Douglas 289 00:14:02,490 --> 00:14:05,810 College. So we did all the drunky, you 290 00:14:05,810 --> 00:14:10,530 know, $2.00 shot night and just girls are just all over the 291 00:14:10,530 --> 00:14:12,890 floor puke. Oh, it was grotesque, right? 292 00:14:12,890 --> 00:14:15,610 And that's the same thing. They grab you and the nails. 293 00:14:15,610 --> 00:14:17,690 And so we hired this great big woman. 294 00:14:17,690 --> 00:14:20,650 She was like 250 pounds and like 6-3. 295 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,160 Oh, she was. Hey. 296 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,440 Just like soon as they see her, The girl's eyes. 297 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,560 Oh, shit. Girl in chill. 298 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,400 She actually ended up Co managing with me and like took 299 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,800 all the good times. She was a bodybuilder. 300 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:35,800 Wow. She he was. 301 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,040 To be fair she was you know probably the girliest girl you'd 302 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,800 ever meet and and wouldn't. Doesn't really throw down. 303 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,040 Never did but just would intimidate. 304 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,880 Oh. Yeah, her presence. 305 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:47,120 Right, They. Just look at me like, Oh my. 306 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,040 God, yeah. And. 307 00:14:51,870 --> 00:14:52,950 Wow. Isn't. 308 00:14:53,350 --> 00:14:57,910 A true sweetheart. Now, so yeah, it was a different 309 00:14:57,910 --> 00:14:58,670 time. Yeah. 310 00:14:58,750 --> 00:15:00,990 There was definitely violence. There was gangs. 311 00:15:00,990 --> 00:15:04,430 Absolutely. But generally speaking, if you 312 00:15:04,430 --> 00:15:07,870 used your brain and you were he kind of could, you know, 313 00:15:07,870 --> 00:15:11,030 navigate, you know, the environment if you were had half 314 00:15:11,030 --> 00:15:13,830 a brain. We're now in the city now when 315 00:15:13,830 --> 00:15:16,190 we were talking before we started the show. 316 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,960 It's a different city like you were mentioning, but a woman 317 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,400 just getting pepper sprayed for bumping into someone like that 318 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,320 shit didn't happen in Vancouver. Yeah, it wasn't like that. 319 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:30,800 You know, stabbing machete attacks, smashing up stuff. 320 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,040 And the drugs too, you know, we're where we could, you know, 321 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,560 the drugs are like off the charts now. 322 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,660 This start often, Richard like. When When's like you now in this 323 00:15:40,660 --> 00:15:43,620 environment, when people go out and I'm saying regular people, I 324 00:15:43,620 --> 00:15:46,300 want to go and have a good time. What would be like some good 325 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:51,820 practical advice for this new Vancouver Metro Vancouver We're 326 00:15:51,820 --> 00:15:55,500 in. OK, so would I tell people when 327 00:15:55,500 --> 00:15:58,140 it comes to self-defense, the most important thing that you 328 00:15:58,140 --> 00:16:01,820 need to to do where you start is to recognize reality. 329 00:16:02,340 --> 00:16:03,940 You know, you have to look at reality. 330 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:07,100 Look around you. What's going on in your 331 00:16:07,100 --> 00:16:09,260 immediate area? What are the threats, so to 332 00:16:09,260 --> 00:16:11,460 speak? And the reality really is simply 333 00:16:11,460 --> 00:16:14,340 this. You live in nature. 334 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:17,420 Yeah. And people, you know, just 335 00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:21,700 because you can send tweets and go on TikTok, we sort of forgot 336 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:23,700 that we're in nature and our world. 337 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:28,940 Our crocodiles wear skin suits, people suits, and for the most 338 00:16:28,940 --> 00:16:31,070 part. Most people's environments are 339 00:16:31,070 --> 00:16:33,910 are really safe and have been for a very very long time and so 340 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:37,710 they totally forgot that you are surrounded by predators. 341 00:16:38,190 --> 00:16:43,390 Given the the current political climb and situation in the city 342 00:16:43,390 --> 00:16:47,670 etcetera, it's it's really important to recognize that 343 00:16:47,670 --> 00:16:50,190 that's where you start. Remind yourself when you go out 344 00:16:50,190 --> 00:16:55,590 the door you live in nature that if that one thing alone will 345 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:59,390 will go a long way and and do keeping it safe, you know. 346 00:16:59,960 --> 00:17:03,360 That's a good analogy because I the way they say that like I 347 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:06,720 like in your video you use that like crocodile in the water pond 348 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,319 that cheetah you know it's a pretty formidable you know 349 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:12,560 animal on its own but you know it's having a little sipy of 350 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,640 water and all right you know that and the. 351 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,040 Thing is like a video I'm I'm actually working on now is I 352 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,880 like that there's another analogy I use and that is in 353 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:25,359 Australia there is a plant called the gippy gippy plant. 354 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,050 You ever heard of it? Yeah, now nasty nasty thing. 355 00:17:29,450 --> 00:17:32,930 So nasty that if you like, first of all, it doesn't look like a 356 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:35,330 crazy poison plant. It just looks like like a Fern, 357 00:17:35,330 --> 00:17:36,770 right? So you never know. 358 00:17:37,370 --> 00:17:40,730 But if you touch this plant, and I didn't believe it until I saw 359 00:17:40,730 --> 00:17:44,610 BBC employer reporter intrepidly decide I'm going to touch this 360 00:17:44,610 --> 00:17:48,410 plant and you write the tiniest part of his pinky finger. 361 00:17:49,050 --> 00:17:53,650 And then he ended the video by throwing up and and like it was 362 00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:59,600 shocking how much pain he was. Plant is that the pain that will 363 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,720 last for some time years and and it's said to be so bad that 364 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,000 people will kill themselves and animals will hurtle themselves 365 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,200 off of cliffs and things. Oh my. 366 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,440 The reason killing about this plant is because it's really 367 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,920 important to recognize that not only do you live in nature but 368 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,280 nature doesn't give a flying F about you and some of the things 369 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:25,040 in nature are shockingly and stunningly cruel. 370 00:18:25,550 --> 00:18:29,470 Yeah, you know, every self-defense situation that 371 00:18:29,470 --> 00:18:33,590 people get into, you have just been teleported into nature. 372 00:18:34,110 --> 00:18:36,150 You know, like there's almost like 2 realities. 373 00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:38,670 People will walk around in their civilization and everything is 374 00:18:38,710 --> 00:18:43,230 is safe and wonderful and nice and fine and then you're into a 375 00:18:43,510 --> 00:18:46,270 potentially violent situation and pouch just like that. 376 00:18:46,270 --> 00:18:48,270 You're in reality, you're in nature. 377 00:18:49,230 --> 00:18:53,150 And if you do stay with the rules of civilization and you 378 00:18:53,150 --> 00:18:56,240 stay along that thinking. Well, a real predator is going 379 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:59,160 to kill your ass generally, how it is, right? 380 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,520 People like people these days, especially will. 381 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,840 And if a guy's challenged or whatever, he might just think 382 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,720 he's getting into a fight, right? 383 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:10,000 I'm going to get in a fight, right? 384 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,360 But you're not. You might be opposite somebody 385 00:19:13,360 --> 00:19:15,120 who's willing to use deadly force. 386 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,760 Yeah, like you're in a fight, obviously, but you're in a 387 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,690 nature fight, Yeah. Oh, totally does it. 388 00:19:21,690 --> 00:19:24,690 And again, like, and I and I've talked about this a lot because 389 00:19:24,690 --> 00:19:27,890 one of the things I've been breaking down a lot in the in my 390 00:19:27,890 --> 00:19:32,370 podcast is kind of a, you know, the the dark psychology there is 391 00:19:32,370 --> 00:19:34,650 there's something going on with people now. 392 00:19:34,650 --> 00:19:36,610 They're a little bit more violent. 393 00:19:36,610 --> 00:19:38,930 They're more unhinged. Like wrote, written just 394 00:19:38,930 --> 00:19:40,370 warrants you want. To hear it. 395 00:19:40,610 --> 00:19:41,850 Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. 396 00:19:42,610 --> 00:19:46,930 My other job is, if you watch the videos I worked in film for 397 00:19:47,010 --> 00:19:48,530 for 20 years or so, and I played it. 398 00:19:48,570 --> 00:19:50,760 I played faceless bad guys. Right. 399 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,840 You know, cops, SWAT team, military guys, soldiers, that 400 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,680 sort of thing. And one of the things I noticed 401 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:00,680 anybody who knows me is working with me in film, knows that in 402 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:04,320 between every single take, I take whatever helmet I am got on 403 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:06,480 Bella, Claude, whatever's on my hand, I take it off. 404 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,440 Right. It's partly because I'm a sweaty 405 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:12,480 bastard and also partly because in film, they'll be rushing you 406 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,160 around, right? Well, we've all got this much 407 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:15,840 time, okay? We'll get ready and they'll 408 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,040 they'll get you. They'll stage you. 409 00:20:18,510 --> 00:20:20,790 So that they can save time, which means you're going to 410 00:20:20,790 --> 00:20:24,710 spend quite some time dressed no face. 411 00:20:25,110 --> 00:20:29,430 And now if you get a whole bunch of people all in uniform with no 412 00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:35,030 face, the crew props, wardrobe, the guy running the rain towers, 413 00:20:35,110 --> 00:20:39,590 the director, they forget you're a human being and you will 414 00:20:39,590 --> 00:20:41,870 spend. Sometimes you will spend hours 415 00:20:41,870 --> 00:20:45,070 and hours under a rain tower freezing the middle of November 416 00:20:45,150 --> 00:20:46,240 or. Right. 417 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,120 And then if the conditions can get pretty miserable and it's 418 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,800 not until I early on figured out, oh shit this is the 419 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,800 problem, and I started taking my my face mask off, my my headgear 420 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,680 off in between every tape so that they could see I'm a human 421 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:03,800 being ever since I started doing that, oh hey, get out, you've 422 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,520 been here for a while. Do you need to go to Crafty or? 423 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:07,800 Do you go to the? Bathroom or Hey, do you mind if 424 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,320 I adjust your wardrobe? If you were just wearing the 425 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:10,640 mask? The. 426 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:14,400 Wardrobe for Yeah, they just see you off like a prop, right? 427 00:21:15,510 --> 00:21:19,390 And I don't think the fact that these social things going on, 428 00:21:19,950 --> 00:21:23,710 but taking away everyone's face for two years was dumb. 429 00:21:24,230 --> 00:21:26,110 Really dumb. Yeah, I know. 430 00:21:26,110 --> 00:21:28,990 And that's the thing Okay. So I I've, I've had a few 431 00:21:28,990 --> 00:21:31,950 conversations about this different people and guess what 432 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:35,390 it always leads back to the pandemic something a lot of 433 00:21:35,390 --> 00:21:38,630 pandemic after stop the isolation. 434 00:21:38,790 --> 00:21:42,070 People now look at at other people and they don't see 435 00:21:42,390 --> 00:21:44,340 people. It's like, you know, that 436 00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:47,060 stabbing that occurred at Starbucks, not. 437 00:21:47,620 --> 00:21:48,580 Too long ago, Yeah. Yes. 438 00:21:48,900 --> 00:21:51,780 Horrible, horrible. The video was absolutely 439 00:21:51,780 --> 00:21:55,660 horrific, but yeah, and the video, the person who was 440 00:21:55,660 --> 00:21:57,060 filming. Yeah. 441 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:02,140 People went back the next day and did another TikTok drinking 442 00:22:02,140 --> 00:22:04,500 a coffee. Yeah, I saw him on TikTok, just 443 00:22:04,500 --> 00:22:08,220 something off about him. And yeah, and he's all. 20 He's 444 00:22:08,220 --> 00:22:10,920 got 3. That's a side of people who who 445 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:14,360 some people don't see people anymore and everyone else is the 446 00:22:14,360 --> 00:22:16,920 star of their own TV show. Yeah. 447 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:23,280 So you got it's kind of incentive plus dehumanization 448 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:28,920 plus social, you know, economic drug problems, you know, city. 449 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,080 It's better you throw all that stuff together and Shazam. 450 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:37,510 Perfect grew, right? Yeah, that back to that, just 451 00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:41,390 quickly to that stabbing. So that was horrific. 452 00:22:41,390 --> 00:22:44,630 And I remember because I posted about it and then that guy is 453 00:22:44,670 --> 00:22:47,750 trying to put out some story and people commented to me too 454 00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:51,030 because it's like and I don't really quite get this, but I 455 00:22:51,030 --> 00:22:54,070 guess when it goes to court, hopefully it'll come out. 456 00:22:54,470 --> 00:22:58,390 But that that guy, he's all back at the site and he's filming 457 00:22:58,390 --> 00:23:01,470 again, there's something off about him, like the this is to 458 00:23:01,550 --> 00:23:04,550 be enjoying the limelight over someone dying, which is strange. 459 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,200 And then he's coming up with the story saying, oh, it was a guy 460 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,200 with the toddler that pulled the knife, right. 461 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,920 And then it's like, and then the other guy fought over the knife. 462 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:18,640 But you know, I I used to work really in close proximity. 463 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,280 I used to work like basically in that same tower of that 464 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,240 Starbucks and Civic Center. I worked in the Canaccord 465 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,910 capital tower. I know there's heavy cameras 466 00:23:28,910 --> 00:23:30,990 around there because there's been always like bag thiefs. 467 00:23:30,990 --> 00:23:33,150 You know, someone's sitting there and put their laptop down, 468 00:23:33,150 --> 00:23:35,550 they put their bag down, then they have their coffee and then 469 00:23:35,550 --> 00:23:37,470 people come. So there's cameras everywhere. 470 00:23:37,470 --> 00:23:39,390 So I think that will no clear it up. 471 00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:44,790 But yeah, he he seems a little bit on the sociopathic scale for 472 00:23:44,790 --> 00:23:47,230 the listeners that don't know what we're talking about. 473 00:23:47,310 --> 00:23:51,590 Just to quickly recap, there was a brutal stabbing at a Starbucks 474 00:23:51,590 --> 00:23:54,350 on a Sunday. A man with his toddler asked the 475 00:23:54,350 --> 00:23:55,870 man. This is what the story is, He 476 00:23:55,870 --> 00:23:59,170 asked the man. Hey, don't vape around my child 477 00:23:59,170 --> 00:24:01,450 And then some kind of confrontation they end up being 478 00:24:01,450 --> 00:24:03,970 stabbed it out. That's that's what's on record. 479 00:24:04,370 --> 00:24:08,650 The person that filmed it is coming out with a story saying, 480 00:24:09,090 --> 00:24:11,690 oh, the man with the with the toddler fold a knife. 481 00:24:11,690 --> 00:24:14,450 He's like, you know, I, I and I don't really believe that's 482 00:24:14,450 --> 00:24:15,730 true. But I guess the facts. 483 00:24:15,970 --> 00:24:18,410 I know. Yeah, so hopefully the facts 484 00:24:18,410 --> 00:24:21,010 will come out, court case he comes out. 485 00:24:21,010 --> 00:24:22,890 But anyways moving forward, right? 486 00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:26,830 So what we're talking about then is the pandemic, right? 487 00:24:26,830 --> 00:24:29,390 It comes back to that. And then then I brought this up 488 00:24:29,390 --> 00:24:33,350 to before on the podcast when the pandemic was in its full 489 00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:36,030 peak, wear a mask. If you didn't wear a mask, 490 00:24:36,030 --> 00:24:38,870 someone's screaming at you. Or if you're unfaccinated, 491 00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:42,230 you're going to kill everyone. And people being labeled as anti 492 00:24:42,230 --> 00:24:45,830 vaxxers. And it was like it was like us 493 00:24:45,830 --> 00:24:50,350 versus them or you know, this black and white division of our 494 00:24:50,350 --> 00:24:51,910 society. Right, so. 495 00:24:52,470 --> 00:24:56,030 I think it really screwed us up. It right down to the police. 496 00:24:56,030 --> 00:24:58,750 I mean consider that the police essentially when they were 497 00:24:58,750 --> 00:25:02,070 masked up, they were dressed like me when I was playing 498 00:25:02,070 --> 00:25:05,150 faceless bad guys on TV. You know, that's that's a 499 00:25:05,430 --> 00:25:07,790 something that never occurred to any groups of police. 500 00:25:07,790 --> 00:25:10,550 But we've had, you know, protests and whatever and you 501 00:25:10,550 --> 00:25:13,550 have 5060 police out there and they're all masked up, 502 00:25:13,830 --> 00:25:16,910 terrifying talk to. They're not your friend, they 503 00:25:16,910 --> 00:25:20,110 are an army. And that's the further. 504 00:25:20,930 --> 00:25:23,890 Wrecking the relationship between society and police 505 00:25:24,290 --> 00:25:27,890 didn't help. No currently and now the police 506 00:25:27,890 --> 00:25:31,650 are on their back foot and and have a lot of ground to get 507 00:25:31,650 --> 00:25:34,250 back, I would guess to rebuild their relationship. 508 00:25:35,090 --> 00:25:37,090 You know the cities. We're now in this new 509 00:25:37,090 --> 00:25:40,370 environment, Richard. So when you're out and about 510 00:25:40,370 --> 00:25:43,450 back in the day, you know, let's say I'm walking down the street 511 00:25:43,450 --> 00:25:45,610 with my loved one. I I, you know, I don't cause 512 00:25:45,610 --> 00:25:46,330 shit. I don't. 513 00:25:46,690 --> 00:25:49,330 I don't go out of my way to get into confrontation. 514 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,200 But like, even back in the day, let's say someone started 515 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,400 yelling, raised my typically I wouldn't raise my voice. 516 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,440 I'd probably try calmly talking to them. 517 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,720 Hey, what's going on? Da da, da, da, you know, are you 518 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,920 feeling OK? You know, you try to break down 519 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:05,240 what's going on. Now if someone's really worked 520 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,120 up and they're looking at me, I probably would just ignore them 521 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:12,280 and just keep walking. That I caution people against. 522 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,280 Yeah, you want to. You want to ignore them, but you 523 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:20,500 also need to acknowledge them. Yeah, they they need to know, 524 00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:24,020 like if somebody is considering using violence and they're angry 525 00:26:24,340 --> 00:26:27,580 if they're a predator like a Joe Pesci type or there's somebody 526 00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:30,820 like the guy who actually stabbed that, that poor fellow, 527 00:26:31,220 --> 00:26:35,380 I don't know, he decided, you know, this is today's the day. 528 00:26:35,380 --> 00:26:37,180 This is it. Oh, God, you don't. 529 00:26:37,460 --> 00:26:40,100 If you don't acknowledge that person, if they don't know that 530 00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:43,740 you see them, they, you know, they they might try to sucker 531 00:26:43,740 --> 00:26:45,540 punch. Yeah, that's true. 532 00:26:45,780 --> 00:26:49,010 There's other videos of. You know guy walking into Tim 533 00:26:49,010 --> 00:26:52,530 horton's, just somebody walks in, sees him there and when he's 534 00:26:52,530 --> 00:26:54,770 not looking, he walks up behind him and starts stabbing him in 535 00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:57,450 the back. You know, So there's things like 536 00:26:57,530 --> 00:27:01,170 that and and anyone who what I would classify as a predator 537 00:27:01,250 --> 00:27:05,250 needs to know that you see them. And if you simply see somebody 538 00:27:05,250 --> 00:27:09,410 that that you identify or recognize as a threat and then 539 00:27:09,410 --> 00:27:12,570 you avert your eyes, look down and put your headphones in, that 540 00:27:12,570 --> 00:27:14,690 person now sees the target. That's true. 541 00:27:14,690 --> 00:27:17,010 So what you're saying is like, look at them. 542 00:27:17,010 --> 00:27:19,290 Hey, okay, I see you, right? Exactly. 543 00:27:19,290 --> 00:27:21,770 And that's scary, obviously. No. 544 00:27:21,770 --> 00:27:22,250 No. Not. 545 00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:24,170 Not like crazy not. At all. 546 00:27:25,810 --> 00:27:28,090 Not at all. Because people yell that that 547 00:27:28,090 --> 00:27:30,330 could be perceived as a challenge, but you at the very 548 00:27:30,330 --> 00:27:32,370 least have to let that crocodile know. 549 00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:35,050 Hey, I see you. Yeah, I'm on to you, buddy. 550 00:27:35,770 --> 00:27:38,130 I'm not the guy. I'm, you know, go pick someone 551 00:27:38,130 --> 00:27:40,370 else. I'm going to be a handful. 552 00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:42,900 Women that are, you know, a little bit. 553 00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:45,940 Typically, you know, some women are very careful physically, but 554 00:27:45,940 --> 00:27:49,060 you know the average woman is smaller than the average man and 555 00:27:49,060 --> 00:27:51,900 most women don't want to get in any type of confrontation. 556 00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:54,380 What advice would you give, like, say, a woman out shopping, 557 00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:56,260 you know, doing walking a parking lot. 558 00:27:56,980 --> 00:28:00,460 Most of this shit, excuse my language, happens during the day 559 00:28:00,460 --> 00:28:03,660 during like, you know, 123 o'clock in the afternoon. 560 00:28:03,660 --> 00:28:05,940 It doesn't. It's not just after the bars 561 00:28:05,940 --> 00:28:08,900 closed on Granville St. anymore. Oh no, no, not. 562 00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:11,870 Not anymore, no. It's something that you like I 563 00:28:11,870 --> 00:28:15,350 said once you step out your door, you are in nature and you 564 00:28:15,350 --> 00:28:16,910 should consider and remember that. 565 00:28:17,670 --> 00:28:21,310 And to you know, to all your listeners, I say that and I 566 00:28:21,310 --> 00:28:24,830 don't differentiate between men and women when it comes to this 567 00:28:24,830 --> 00:28:27,310 sort of stuff. The something that that you 568 00:28:27,310 --> 00:28:31,270 should be doing is use your damn eyeballs, right. 569 00:28:31,270 --> 00:28:35,350 You know, one of my favorite stories is from my absolute 570 00:28:35,350 --> 00:28:37,350 favorite director, Peter Deloise. 571 00:28:37,670 --> 00:28:40,330 This guy is just. You get blood on the stone. 572 00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:44,290 He's a he's a super efficient. You know, he used to direct all 573 00:28:44,290 --> 00:28:47,050 the Stargate shows and whatever. Oh, because I was done like, he 574 00:28:47,050 --> 00:28:50,170 was really, really quick. And he's dumb deloises, I know, 575 00:28:50,170 --> 00:28:52,370 if you remember him. From Oh, yeah, of course. 576 00:28:52,410 --> 00:28:54,770 Yeah. Back, Yeah, He was at 21 Drum 577 00:28:54,770 --> 00:28:56,130 St. That's right. 578 00:28:56,130 --> 00:28:58,450 And he's a wickedly funny guy, right? 579 00:28:58,450 --> 00:29:02,010 And he told me the story once of this acting class. 580 00:29:02,010 --> 00:29:04,770 He was sitting there in the director's chair and this woman 581 00:29:04,770 --> 00:29:08,890 came in and did her audition and. 582 00:29:09,140 --> 00:29:10,940 And anyway, so they do the audition. 583 00:29:10,940 --> 00:29:15,180 The audition goes fantastic. And she's so engaged with the 584 00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:18,820 the director and the producers behind the table that she says 585 00:29:18,820 --> 00:29:21,780 her goodbyes and she goes to leave and walks right into the 586 00:29:21,780 --> 00:29:23,300 closet. Oh, okay. 587 00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:28,940 So now she's standing in the closet in the in this audition 588 00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:32,260 and she's got to now leave the closet and then leave the room, 589 00:29:32,260 --> 00:29:34,260 all stunningly and shockingly embarrassed. 590 00:29:35,580 --> 00:29:38,980 And the way Peter put it. Which was extra awesome because 591 00:29:38,980 --> 00:29:43,180 it turns out that the woman was his wife, Anne Marie. 592 00:29:43,580 --> 00:29:47,180 I thought it was just fantastic. But anyway, the way he put it is 593 00:29:47,420 --> 00:29:50,740 the best thing you can do is use your damn eyeballs. 594 00:29:51,060 --> 00:29:54,260 Yeah. If you're not looking, you're 595 00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:56,660 not going to see anything you hear all the time. 596 00:29:56,660 --> 00:30:00,220 Well, it came out of nowhere. Well, no, you you didn't look. 597 00:30:00,300 --> 00:30:03,300 You didn't see. Yes, things come out of nowhere 598 00:30:03,300 --> 00:30:06,420 like, you know, some ninja drops down from the the rafters 599 00:30:06,460 --> 00:30:08,770 somewhere. Yeah, most car there are 600 00:30:08,770 --> 00:30:12,690 indicators to any kind of an attack, even somebody who's not 601 00:30:12,690 --> 00:30:16,050 just a hot headed, you know, an addict or or somebody who 602 00:30:16,050 --> 00:30:18,930 snapped or whatever. But yeah, predators, etc. 603 00:30:19,330 --> 00:30:22,250 There's usually indicators. Yeah, absolutely. 604 00:30:22,370 --> 00:30:25,050 One of the things I would recommend to people is people 605 00:30:25,050 --> 00:30:28,770 get hung up with situational awareness, right, Situational 606 00:30:28,770 --> 00:30:30,330 awareness. To a lot of people, that doesn't 607 00:30:30,370 --> 00:30:33,330 mean much. Like what does that even mean? 608 00:30:34,050 --> 00:30:35,700 Well, it means to pay attention. Okay. 609 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:38,300 And what am I paying attention to specifically? 610 00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:41,140 When I go out, I am looking at the people. 611 00:30:41,620 --> 00:30:45,380 Yes. Every person that you get close 612 00:30:45,380 --> 00:30:48,500 to is potentially a threat and I'm not spending any time 613 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,780 staring at them or anything like that, but it's no looking. 614 00:30:50,860 --> 00:30:56,420 Oh yeah, and the things I am looking for are aggression and 615 00:30:56,420 --> 00:30:58,940 deception. Yes, okay. 616 00:30:58,940 --> 00:31:02,900 So if somebody is aggressive or has an aggressive energy or they 617 00:31:02,900 --> 00:31:04,580 are. Angry. 618 00:31:04,580 --> 00:31:07,740 Or you can see those things. You will feel those things 619 00:31:07,740 --> 00:31:10,620 radiating off that person and you never very close to that 620 00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:12,220 person. They're a threat and you should 621 00:31:12,220 --> 00:31:15,820 be on your guard. And the same goes for anyone 622 00:31:15,820 --> 00:31:18,260 who's doing anything deceptively, you know, like 623 00:31:18,580 --> 00:31:22,660 something like if somebody was watching you and then every 624 00:31:23,420 --> 00:31:25,980 right look away quickly. Well, that's odd. 625 00:31:26,620 --> 00:31:32,030 Yeah, you know, if somebody is. Hiding something in their hands 626 00:31:32,070 --> 00:31:37,230 or moving their hands to their pockets or trying to say move in 627 00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:40,590 behind you or something like that, you'll see these little 628 00:31:40,590 --> 00:31:44,510 deceptive cues. And those are the two main 629 00:31:44,510 --> 00:31:49,710 things that that I I look for. And I I think that if I think 630 00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:54,230 that, I know that if people can't remind themselves, again, 631 00:31:54,350 --> 00:31:58,030 you're in nature and start looking for those two things. 632 00:31:58,790 --> 00:32:00,350 You're going to be safer right off. 633 00:32:00,350 --> 00:32:02,430 The bat. Yeah, though that's good 634 00:32:02,430 --> 00:32:04,430 practical advice. Absolutely. 635 00:32:04,430 --> 00:32:07,870 Because I just something. And again, I noticed this with 636 00:32:07,870 --> 00:32:11,070 Vancouver people. I'm talking like city Vancouver 637 00:32:11,070 --> 00:32:13,510 people because I lived downtown for about 10 years. 638 00:32:13,510 --> 00:32:15,990 I lived out. And typically when you move out, 639 00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:17,670 you know, people kind of acknowledge it. 640 00:32:17,670 --> 00:32:19,750 Like even like around my neighborhood now I'm on like the 641 00:32:19,750 --> 00:32:22,650 Surrey, Langley border. You know, I'm out with my kids. 642 00:32:22,690 --> 00:32:24,450 People all hide the way of each other. 643 00:32:24,450 --> 00:32:26,930 And it's not like you go and have this big small talk with 644 00:32:26,930 --> 00:32:27,970 them. But, you know they kind of look 645 00:32:27,970 --> 00:32:28,930 each other. I know. 646 00:32:28,930 --> 00:32:32,490 Good evening, Vancouver people. And it's they're weird like it. 647 00:32:32,490 --> 00:32:33,970 And I'm. I'm just saying I'm born and 648 00:32:33,970 --> 00:32:36,450 raised here. Right thing. 649 00:32:36,450 --> 00:32:39,410 It's just and again, I've tried. I've had jobs where I've 650 00:32:39,410 --> 00:32:42,010 traveled in 40 cities throughout North America. 651 00:32:42,010 --> 00:32:44,450 I don't know what it is They do this thing where they look at 652 00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:47,600 you, but you're invisible. Does rub you the wrong way and 653 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:48,680 I'm not. And then what? 654 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,680 I was saying and I brought this up on a podcast. 655 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,080 If someone's acting arrogant, they deserve to be a victim and 656 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,040 blindsided and beaten to a cult. You're. 657 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,560 You're touching on something else that that like, and this 658 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,960 one's a super obvious one, but I always, I always make if you're 659 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,800 traveling around the world and everywhere you go you run into 660 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,760 an asshole. Yeah, you you're the asshole. 661 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:11,720 Yeah. Does that make sense? 662 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,160 Oh, for sure, for sure, you know. 663 00:33:14,780 --> 00:33:17,180 You would be surprised. Most of you would be surprised 664 00:33:17,180 --> 00:33:20,540 that the energy that you bring into as situation will often 665 00:33:20,540 --> 00:33:22,780 determine whether or not it goes violently or not. 666 00:33:23,140 --> 00:33:25,460 Oh, yeah, sure, absolutely. If you. 667 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:30,740 Are just a genuinely friendly person, you know, of course. 668 00:33:30,740 --> 00:33:33,340 And obviously with this the attitude hey, don't mess with 669 00:33:33,380 --> 00:33:36,940 me, I'm not a victim. But if you were a genuinely 670 00:33:36,940 --> 00:33:41,580 engaging and friendly person and you're when you talk to people, 671 00:33:41,580 --> 00:33:43,660 your goal is to build instant rapport. 672 00:33:44,370 --> 00:33:48,410 Then you will you will lessen the amount or likelihood of any 673 00:33:48,570 --> 00:33:50,130 violent encounter you could possibly be. 674 00:33:50,770 --> 00:33:52,050 Oh, for sure. I totally. 675 00:33:52,050 --> 00:33:54,210 Agree. Simply being an asshole. 676 00:33:55,010 --> 00:33:56,930 Yeah, but you know what I'm talking about though. 677 00:33:56,930 --> 00:33:57,930 There's like this. Fine. 678 00:33:59,010 --> 00:34:02,490 It's hard to like again. I didn't really notice it until 679 00:34:02,490 --> 00:34:05,010 I started traveling to other cities, like even New York. 680 00:34:05,010 --> 00:34:06,570 I'd be in New York, yeah. Thank you. 681 00:34:06,570 --> 00:34:09,969 You were in Toronto by fine. Yeah, like, I'll be in New York 682 00:34:09,969 --> 00:34:13,290 and it's like, so crowded, but people kind of work with each 683 00:34:13,290 --> 00:34:15,489 other, you know what I mean? You kind of acknowledge, OK, I'm 684 00:34:15,489 --> 00:34:17,130 going out this way. You're gonna go that way. 685 00:34:17,130 --> 00:34:18,409 You know what I mean? Like, you kind of. 686 00:34:19,210 --> 00:34:21,370 Yeah, it. But here it's a straight, like, 687 00:34:21,370 --> 00:34:24,530 there's a strange. It's just like one of the, you 688 00:34:24,530 --> 00:34:27,370 know, I do a podcast series too, called Vancouver the Beautiful 689 00:34:27,370 --> 00:34:29,210 and Ugly. And I talked about the strange 690 00:34:29,210 --> 00:34:31,650 little corks that I've noticed, you know, the city. 691 00:34:33,770 --> 00:34:35,290 Yeah, it's weird. It's. 692 00:34:35,370 --> 00:34:38,159 Strange. Yeah, like like I remember. 693 00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,440 I'll tell you a quick story it'll be the digress but I'll 694 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,000 tell you a quick story. So my family all to Gaston. 695 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,600 So I was working at this job on water St. was this high tech 696 00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:51,960 startup job and there was one of those float tanks in Gaston so I 697 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,480 bought one of those float tank packages and and my my 698 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,040 motherinlaw was my my wife passed away. 699 00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:02,520 My my wife was alive. My motherinlaw had my baby in a 700 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,780 stroller. And I told her, I said there's 701 00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:10,100 nowhere downtown that you can push the stroller around, 702 00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:12,780 especially in Gaston, because of the Cobble Street, right. 703 00:35:13,580 --> 00:35:16,140 I would recommend that you go to the Harbor Center. 704 00:35:16,140 --> 00:35:18,060 It just got renovated. It's air conditioned. 705 00:35:18,060 --> 00:35:19,540 It was like hot. It was summertime. 706 00:35:19,860 --> 00:35:22,380 And then it's it's, it's it's stroller friendly, you know what 707 00:35:22,380 --> 00:35:23,340 I mean? Yeah. 708 00:35:23,660 --> 00:35:25,580 Of course she didn't listen to my advice. 709 00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:29,770 So she's pushing the stroller, having a hard time trying to go 710 00:35:29,770 --> 00:35:31,610 and cost her. No one would open the fucking 711 00:35:31,610 --> 00:35:33,410 door for her. And she's struggling with a 712 00:35:33,410 --> 00:35:35,810 baby, you know, old lady with a baby with a stroller. 713 00:35:35,810 --> 00:35:37,690 No one would open the door for her. 714 00:35:37,690 --> 00:35:39,930 No one would. We're we're out, you know, out 715 00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:42,210 here, that wouldn't be an issue, right. 716 00:35:42,850 --> 00:35:45,290 So when I got him out of the float tank, you know, you're in 717 00:35:45,290 --> 00:35:47,010 there for like almost like 90 minutes. 718 00:35:47,010 --> 00:35:49,010 You're kind of aft up and she was really upset. 719 00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:49,960 She goes. She called. 720 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,480 My God, everyone was rude to me. No one would help me. 721 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,200 I was struggling with it. That's why I told you to go to 722 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,200 the Harbor Center, you know what I mean? 723 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,480 But that that's like an example, right? 724 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,640 So imagine, like, again, I'm not saying that if someone's an 725 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,520 asshole, they deserve to have the snot beat out of them. 726 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,400 I'm not saying that. But imagine this if you're kind 727 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,240 of like you're effed up and you've been doing math and 728 00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:13,040 you've been doing this and that and. 729 00:36:13,590 --> 00:36:16,430 You know you're you're having a really bad day and then finally 730 00:36:16,430 --> 00:36:17,910 this guy just rubs you the wrong way. 731 00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:21,390 He's wearing a fancy suit. He won't look at you and who the 732 00:36:21,390 --> 00:36:22,550 fuck do you think? You know what I mean? 733 00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:24,390 Like I'm them trucking like the from the. 734 00:36:25,590 --> 00:36:31,470 You're correct, though I I think the the empathy cup kind of gets 735 00:36:31,470 --> 00:36:35,870 full and some of these people have decided already, you know, 736 00:36:36,030 --> 00:36:39,630 fuck yeah, so to speak. And that's what you're running 737 00:36:39,630 --> 00:36:44,140 the risk of encountering. Out there, in in, in just 738 00:36:44,740 --> 00:36:46,700 regular life these days. For sure. 739 00:36:47,140 --> 00:36:50,220 Yeah, you could avoid those people because they would be in 740 00:36:50,220 --> 00:36:55,940 certain areas at certain times and you know, that's not the 741 00:36:55,940 --> 00:36:58,380 case anymore. For sure. 742 00:36:58,620 --> 00:37:01,540 I I feel for for people like I, I not too long. 743 00:37:01,540 --> 00:37:06,220 We went to Subway up the street. There's two young girls working 744 00:37:06,220 --> 00:37:12,180 there close to close 11 or 12, and they just got to talking. 745 00:37:12,670 --> 00:37:14,630 So I I I tend to chat with people. 746 00:37:14,910 --> 00:37:17,230 When Yeah, these. These poor girls were are 747 00:37:17,230 --> 00:37:19,630 terrified because they have to go home via the Sky train. 748 00:37:20,030 --> 00:37:22,030 Oh my, take me. Into surring. 749 00:37:22,310 --> 00:37:28,310 So you've got two you know 18 year old little with girls yeah 750 00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:31,230 it's just making the way through the sky train at night time 751 00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:35,590 ending up in in I guess Surrey Central and they're scared to 752 00:37:35,630 --> 00:37:38,110 death. I don't blame them and they and 753 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:40,990 then every day they go to work. Oh my God. 754 00:37:41,190 --> 00:37:45,510 Every day. Wow, quickly again. 755 00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:48,590 My partner, current part of her, She has a teenage son. 756 00:37:49,550 --> 00:37:51,070 He was on the Sky train during the day. 757 00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:54,390 This is like during the day. Saturday afternoon not only got 758 00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:57,270 robbed once, he got robbed twice, Got robbed at Waterfront 759 00:37:57,270 --> 00:38:00,070 Station, knife pulled on him. And then when he came back to 760 00:38:00,070 --> 00:38:02,590 Surrey Central, he got robbed by a group of teenagers. 761 00:38:02,590 --> 00:38:04,470 Stole his backpack and stuff. Right. 762 00:38:04,470 --> 00:38:07,630 So yeah, like you said, out nature predators is a perfect, 763 00:38:07,830 --> 00:38:11,030 perfect thing. But just to revert back or what 764 00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:13,750 I'm saying like again, if you're an asshole, right. 765 00:38:14,070 --> 00:38:18,910 For me, even if I wore a suit tie if someone, I'd always try 766 00:38:18,910 --> 00:38:21,110 to acknowledge people even if they were homeless. 767 00:38:21,110 --> 00:38:22,910 You know what I mean? They'd open the door for me. 768 00:38:22,910 --> 00:38:25,150 I'd say thank you. You know what I mean? 769 00:38:25,630 --> 00:38:27,430 Like I like, like you're saying, right. 770 00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:30,350 It's like you acknowledging people could probably lot of 771 00:38:30,350 --> 00:38:31,710 times save some. You look at some. 772 00:38:31,710 --> 00:38:33,390 Oh he's it looks like a junkie been. 773 00:38:33,650 --> 00:38:36,170 Doing dope all day. Get you know, get away with your 774 00:38:36,170 --> 00:38:37,930 body. Get away from the peasants. 775 00:38:37,930 --> 00:38:39,650 Right. It's the it's the subtle 776 00:38:39,650 --> 00:38:42,090 interest. Like a lot of people never 777 00:38:42,090 --> 00:38:44,090 consider how they appear to other people. 778 00:38:44,450 --> 00:38:47,010 Yeah. So but when I say that. 779 00:38:47,050 --> 00:38:49,370 You know when you're walking around with the attitude of you 780 00:38:49,370 --> 00:38:54,970 know, don't be the asshole. You may still be portraying A 781 00:38:55,010 --> 00:38:59,290 standoffish and combative looking person you you think if 782 00:38:59,290 --> 00:39:01,770 the peasant was, the other person sees. 783 00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,400 Yes, and that's it's really important to one build rapport 784 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,120 with people, but also at the same time to protect yourself 785 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,680 because you can utilize what you look like or how you're 786 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:21,040 presenting yourself to deter various crap, the spur. 787 00:39:21,740 --> 00:39:24,540 All right, so let's talk then. Now let's get into, OK, you're 788 00:39:24,540 --> 00:39:28,020 in the situation that you think is gonna get violent, right? 789 00:39:28,020 --> 00:39:29,420 Like, you know, again, Like, right. 790 00:39:29,420 --> 00:39:31,900 So let's say this. You're on those two girls on the 791 00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:34,900 Sky train, right? There's some sketchy dude. 792 00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:38,260 Hey, girls want to come to my place and party or whatever, 793 00:39:38,260 --> 00:39:39,740 whatever. They operated, right? 794 00:39:40,700 --> 00:39:43,500 Like, like, what were some practical, like, common sense 795 00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:45,620 advice you'd offer? Because again, people listening. 796 00:39:45,620 --> 00:39:47,940 They have teenage daughters, teenage sons, you know? 797 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,640 You know, well, the common sense stuff is, is you know this at 798 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,280 the beginning. Recognize reality. 799 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,520 OK, so look at the things that could possibly happen. 800 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,760 You know, obviously you know you're going to stay within the 801 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,440 realm of reason if you're like, oh God, I have to come up with a 802 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,720 plan for aliens. Well, OK, that's ridiculous. 803 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,000 But oh, what if I get attacked by ninjas? 804 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,520 You know, like, you're not going to have a plan for everything. 805 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:14,000 No, I know. Run it through in your head 806 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:15,050 first. Yeah. 807 00:40:15,050 --> 00:40:17,610 If you think that you're going to be, you know, you could be 808 00:40:17,610 --> 00:40:19,330 approached by somebody, you could mug, whatever. 809 00:40:19,330 --> 00:40:20,770 What does that look like? Yeah. 810 00:40:20,770 --> 00:40:24,090 Do you have any idea? We live, we fortunately live at 811 00:40:24,090 --> 00:40:27,130 a time where you could go online and look up practically anything 812 00:40:27,890 --> 00:40:30,010 you know you like. For example, what is a home that 813 00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:33,450 you could look like? You know, they said they tend to 814 00:40:33,450 --> 00:40:36,610 play out the same way. So I would recommend to people 815 00:40:37,090 --> 00:40:39,730 if that's something that you're you're particularly worried 816 00:40:39,730 --> 00:40:41,850 about. Look at some of them and. 817 00:40:41,850 --> 00:40:46,540 See what they look like. Other things are if you are not 818 00:40:47,340 --> 00:40:51,700 particularly capable and even if you are and and your plan is 819 00:40:51,780 --> 00:40:54,300 okay, something happens. I'm going to run okay well 820 00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:56,300 that's that's good running is a good plan. 821 00:40:56,340 --> 00:40:59,540 You know run you live for another day etcetera, etcetera. 822 00:40:59,820 --> 00:41:02,100 But where are you running to? How far are you running? 823 00:41:02,180 --> 00:41:03,740 What are you going to find when you get there? 824 00:41:04,140 --> 00:41:08,220 What obstacles are in your way between here and and your you 825 00:41:08,220 --> 00:41:11,660 know your salvation escape route kind of thing knowing all of 826 00:41:11,660 --> 00:41:15,470 those things. In advance puts you in a 827 00:41:15,470 --> 00:41:17,710 different frame of mind, right? Right. 828 00:41:17,790 --> 00:41:22,190 It's like I I did mention to you that that when something 829 00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:25,590 happens, when there's a violent incident that is happening or 830 00:41:25,590 --> 00:41:28,310 about to happen, you've been teleported back into nature. 831 00:41:28,670 --> 00:41:31,310 Yeah, right. So rather than be teleported 832 00:41:31,310 --> 00:41:33,870 back into nature, be there beforehand. 833 00:41:34,590 --> 00:41:36,270 Yes. Makes sort of sense. 834 00:41:36,470 --> 00:41:39,350 Oh, totally. But just a recap for the 835 00:41:39,350 --> 00:41:42,430 audience is like map out. You're, you know, like these 836 00:41:42,430 --> 00:41:44,270 poor girls. Okay, have a plan. 837 00:41:44,270 --> 00:41:47,230 Okay, you're going to be taking how many stops play out the 838 00:41:47,230 --> 00:41:51,230 situation in your head for. Exactly like, are you going to 839 00:41:51,230 --> 00:41:53,110 get off the train? Okay, there's somebody there 840 00:41:53,110 --> 00:41:55,830 that's bothering you. Get off the train, they get off 841 00:41:55,830 --> 00:41:57,910 too. Well, then get back on the Damn. 842 00:41:57,990 --> 00:42:01,030 Train, yeah, or the safe time. There's also the safety stops 843 00:42:01,190 --> 00:42:02,470 there. Exactly. 844 00:42:02,830 --> 00:42:04,670 Exactly, but the more that you know. 845 00:42:06,110 --> 00:42:09,190 And the more that you have sort of an idea in your head like a 846 00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:12,470 rough plan, you're never going to have a perfect plan in your 847 00:42:12,470 --> 00:42:13,710 place. You're probably going to fall 848 00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:16,750 apart in the 1st place. But the last thing you want to 849 00:42:16,750 --> 00:42:19,950 do or the worst place to be, I mean is reactionary. 850 00:42:20,430 --> 00:42:23,190 Yeah. If you are more proactive in 851 00:42:23,190 --> 00:42:26,310 your self-defense approach, you are far, far safer than if you 852 00:42:26,310 --> 00:42:28,590 are reactive. You want to be what I call a 853 00:42:28,590 --> 00:42:32,550 cooler, not a bouncer. I am and explain to people that 854 00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:35,720 I make cooler and. Essentially, that's to keep 855 00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:38,120 cool. But the the cooler, If you 856 00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:42,200 remember, like Patrick Swayze, I wrote, he read the script. 857 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,480 That makes sense. That character was unassailable. 858 00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:51,160 He saw everything right. He was a very proactive person. 859 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,120 Whereas all the other guys are bouncers, you know they're. 860 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,360 Reactive. Oh, there's a guy. 861 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:56,640 Well, you know, they're just fight. 862 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,200 But the safest, smartest place you want to be is. 863 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,280 A proactive self-defense plan strategy, so to speak, as 864 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,360 opposed to just oh God okay this happened. 865 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:12,640 Now I'm reacting to it because the problem is even people who 866 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,920 are accomplished martial artists, people who I've spent 867 00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,440 some time fighting or etcetera, If you are scared or you are 868 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:24,360 hurt or you are exhausted you forgot, you will forget that 869 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,920 you're a martial art artist. You'll catch it and you have to 870 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,160 keep that into account. Keep that link factor. 871 00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:33,040 Oh shit. Okay. 872 00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,400 That might happen to me. And so that's why being more 873 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:42,000 proactive will save your butt. Because if you're reactive, you 874 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,320 might forget that you've already know stuff, and you might forget 875 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,080 the the martial arts you know or the plan you know. 876 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,480 Or yeah, if you can freeze, right? 877 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,720 Absolutely, you freeze that, right? 878 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,640 The shock as he had naked, but for someone who's never been in 879 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,000 a violent confrontation. I'll tell you a quick story. 880 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,160 So I remember it was round Abbott Street. 881 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,080 There was a sky walking kind of, you know, slim guy. 882 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,360 He's wearing a nice suit. Mean is minding his own 883 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:10,880 business. And this big raw just came out 884 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:14,440 of nowhere and I kind of watched to see if it was going to get 885 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,480 violent And the guy was, it's almost like it was almost a 886 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,680 mugging. And this is sort of like hey 887 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,920 give me somebody kind of like we're in this face and and 888 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,040 they're lucky there was a lot of people and the guy just whipped 889 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,880 across the street and this kind of like. 890 00:44:27,350 --> 00:44:30,270 But but if the you know a different circumstance people 891 00:44:30,270 --> 00:44:33,310 weren't around. If this guy was able to corner 892 00:44:33,310 --> 00:44:35,550 him, oh absolutely. It would have probably gotten 893 00:44:35,550 --> 00:44:37,270 violent. This guy was like a big dude. 894 00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:39,750 He just looked like he had an all nighter and kind of you know 895 00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:42,790 kind of freaky, right. And it'll and probably too much 896 00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:45,350 for the smaller man to handle right. 897 00:44:45,350 --> 00:44:46,230 But he just. Kind of. 898 00:44:46,830 --> 00:44:48,990 Reacted and this bolted out of there. 899 00:44:48,990 --> 00:44:51,080 But. That's what I'm saying that I 900 00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,400 think that's kind of about your nature analogy. 901 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,280 There's a perfect example. Maybe if he was a little bit 902 00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,600 more like looking down and say, OK that guy, maybe I should 903 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,240 cross away, you know what I mean? 904 00:45:01,240 --> 00:45:05,640 That's the. Thing right is is people like 905 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,440 you know you got a martial arts class whatever it is and 906 00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:11,680 somebody will teach you all this how you disarm a knife on their 907 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:16,600 9000 different ways you're going to first of all I think 99% of. 908 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,060 Our nonsense, yeah. Try to make the knife itself 909 00:45:20,060 --> 00:45:25,660 doesn't teleport out of nowhere. You know, it's, you know. 910 00:45:25,660 --> 00:45:29,180 So yeah, unless it's the, you know, the Super sneaky, you 911 00:45:29,180 --> 00:45:31,300 know, ninja assassin that's coming into you. 912 00:45:32,140 --> 00:45:37,660 For the most part there is going to be indicators and clues and 913 00:45:37,660 --> 00:45:41,660 things that will tip you off. And so if there is any kind of a 914 00:45:41,660 --> 00:45:45,820 threat, that's why it's so important to be paying attention 915 00:45:46,020 --> 00:45:49,760 only for for. The majority of your list what 916 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,080 was the last time when you were going to, say, the convenience 917 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,760 store before you got out of the car, you just looked at the 918 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,840 parking lot? You know, or you're about to 919 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,960 leave the store? Do you look out the door first 920 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,680 or you just walk out? Oh for sure. 921 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,000 I see so many just in my own neighborhood. 922 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,600 Just you know. Again, luckily my live in a very 923 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,760 high crime area. Today. 924 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,520 I'm grateful. But I like walking on the 925 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,640 sidewalk, you know? I take my kids out for walks all 926 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,960 the time. I see women ear buds and buried 927 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,520 in their phone. Walks buried in their phone, 928 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,440 thinking. You know, even if I was just an 929 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,160 asshole, I could trip them. You know what I mean? 930 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:23,520 Just ho, ho, you know what I mean? 931 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,000 Like they're. Ignore it. 932 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,680 Those are people who are who have forgotten that they live in 933 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,280 nature. They've forgotten about the 934 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,120 Guinea pig plant and the and the crocodiles for sure. 935 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,800 And their world is safe until it's not. 936 00:46:38,230 --> 00:46:39,710 No. That's why it's really, really 937 00:46:39,710 --> 00:46:42,510 important to just open your damn eyeballs and use them. 938 00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:45,070 For sure. I I wanted to talk tell you 939 00:46:45,070 --> 00:46:47,550 quickly popped in my head when you brought up the knife thing. 940 00:46:47,550 --> 00:46:50,590 I remember one time I was at English Bay and I was just feel 941 00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:53,590 chilling beautiful day and there was like this great big. 942 00:46:53,590 --> 00:46:56,670 I don't know I you've probably seen them all over your 943 00:46:56,670 --> 00:46:59,790 lifetime. The the fake martial artists, 944 00:46:59,790 --> 00:47:02,070 right? And this guy just looked like a 945 00:47:02,070 --> 00:47:04,110 big fat tub of you know what right. 946 00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:07,350 And he had like these younger kids and he's all showing him 947 00:47:07,350 --> 00:47:11,070 the stick work and Boo Boo Boo and he and he's like doing this 948 00:47:11,070 --> 00:47:14,110 fancy rolling stuff. And I just, I was watching. 949 00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:17,110 I just wanted to grab the fucking stick out of his hands 950 00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:19,750 and it's okay let's let's let's see where you're going to do 951 00:47:19,750 --> 00:47:20,950 this. You know what I mean? 952 00:47:20,950 --> 00:47:22,630 Because that's the reality of it. 953 00:47:22,630 --> 00:47:24,710 No one, no one's going to do some fancy woo. 954 00:47:25,110 --> 00:47:27,950 You know what I mean? Like something And and so that's 955 00:47:27,950 --> 00:47:31,470 what happens is like sometimes and I've seen this and I've I've 956 00:47:31,470 --> 00:47:34,570 actually seen this. Someone you know takes a martial 957 00:47:34,570 --> 00:47:37,250 art class and then they're looking to fucking use it. 958 00:47:37,970 --> 00:47:43,090 Yeah, Which, which again is, See, The thing is that most 959 00:47:43,090 --> 00:47:46,850 people have never seen violence and so they don't have the 960 00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:50,530 proper respect for it. Yeah, all movies and videos. 961 00:47:50,530 --> 00:47:52,810 It's not a real. And so real violence is 962 00:47:52,810 --> 00:47:58,410 incredibly startling and it will, it will cause most people 963 00:47:58,410 --> 00:47:59,890 to freeze. Yeah. 964 00:48:02,140 --> 00:48:05,060 That leads me into it. If I'm sure that some some of 965 00:48:05,060 --> 00:48:07,300 your list, there's many of your lists are probably taking some 966 00:48:07,300 --> 00:48:08,740 kind of self-defense or whatever. 967 00:48:08,740 --> 00:48:12,540 And I and I caution you, I tell you whatever it is, keep it 968 00:48:12,540 --> 00:48:15,780 simple, stupid. It's got to be simple. 969 00:48:15,940 --> 00:48:20,740 It's got to be way more simple than you think because it won't 970 00:48:20,740 --> 00:48:23,660 be there if you really, really truly need it unless you have 971 00:48:23,660 --> 00:48:26,700 the opportunity and the dedication to train it to 972 00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:30,460 reflex. Most people don't after it has 973 00:48:30,460 --> 00:48:34,980 to be. And you're back back to the bar. 974 00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:37,340 Yeah. Scariest guy. 975 00:48:37,340 --> 00:48:39,980 The guy that was the most dangerous. 976 00:48:39,980 --> 00:48:43,100 Who cops warn you do not pepper spray him. 977 00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,700 Do not try to fucking wrestle with him. 978 00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:46,940 Don't. Do you know what I mean? 979 00:48:47,660 --> 00:48:50,300 He was nothing that you thought he was. 980 00:48:50,540 --> 00:48:52,100 He. His name was Randy. 981 00:48:52,300 --> 00:48:56,300 He was whole skinny, maybe 170 pounds. 982 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,880 Look like a like a redneck cowboy. 983 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,320 Long blonde hair, big mustache, wore cowboy boots. 984 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,680 This guy was a world class kickboxer and he loved fighting 985 00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,400 like big steroid guys because it just kind of made him, you know, 986 00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,960 ha ha ha. He could go like he could get 987 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,160 his nose as close to the guy he'd get. 988 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,040 He'd get right in the guy's face because he was tall. 989 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:19,330 He was like 6, two at 170. So he would get right in his 990 00:49:19,330 --> 00:49:21,530 nose and his foot would come up. Boom. 991 00:49:21,530 --> 00:49:24,250 Right on the on the chin, right. But this guy was like a world, 992 00:49:24,330 --> 00:49:26,210 but he would pick fights. He was, you know, the guy was 993 00:49:26,290 --> 00:49:29,730 the guy was nuts, right? But like I said, he was not like 994 00:49:29,730 --> 00:49:31,610 the big cartoon tough guy. He. 995 00:49:31,690 --> 00:49:35,370 Would you know would? Totally underestimate him 100%. 996 00:49:36,090 --> 00:49:40,370 Never know. Even people who are trained who 997 00:49:40,410 --> 00:49:44,450 take some kind of thing and and and Archite, our fighters, first 998 00:49:44,450 --> 00:49:47,290 of all, real fighters, are very, very rare, yeah. 999 00:49:47,830 --> 00:49:49,710 People who are exceptional fighters. 1000 00:49:50,070 --> 00:49:53,990 Whoa BT with whoever you know, accept a dominance challenge 1001 00:49:53,990 --> 00:49:56,030 from one and get sucked into a fight like a dumbass. 1002 00:49:56,350 --> 00:49:58,390 There was a real pleasure. I'd love to have you to come on 1003 00:49:58,390 --> 00:50:00,950 again and we could talk more like. 1004 00:50:00,950 --> 00:50:02,990 There's so much this. There's so much more. 1005 00:50:03,620 --> 00:50:06,380 Oh totally. Even if we talk crazy stories 1006 00:50:06,380 --> 00:50:09,340 from back all day because people love them, they do like what I 1007 00:50:09,340 --> 00:50:10,820 do. Like the Vancouver beautiful, 1008 00:50:10,820 --> 00:50:12,740 ugly because it brings up the nostalgia. 1009 00:50:12,740 --> 00:50:15,700 And the clubs were, believe it or not, they were a little bit 1010 00:50:15,700 --> 00:50:18,380 and I don't know, I don't really go to clubs as much anymore, but 1011 00:50:18,380 --> 00:50:20,660 they seem to be a little more fun back then, right? 1012 00:50:20,660 --> 00:50:22,100 There were a little more. I agree. 1013 00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:26,420 I I I think back in the day they they were, well, it was, it was 1014 00:50:26,420 --> 00:50:29,380 just a different time, yeah. For sure. 1015 00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:32,790 Yeah, and there was a lot more variety too. 1016 00:50:32,790 --> 00:50:35,390 There was a lot of like, there was more variety of different 1017 00:50:35,390 --> 00:50:36,950 clubs and back and you'll make God. 1018 00:50:36,950 --> 00:50:40,110 And then remember when Vancouver had like a strip bar, almost 1019 00:50:40,110 --> 00:50:41,630 like on every corner, every corner, all. 1020 00:50:42,110 --> 00:50:43,510 Over the place. Yeah, yeah. 1021 00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:46,830 So even that was a kind of a fun, you know, crazy stories 1022 00:50:46,830 --> 00:50:50,230 I've I've seen in those places. Hey, like, for example, do you 1023 00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:53,390 remember a place called Champagne Charlie's like it was 1024 00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:56,590 in downtown Vancouver. Champagne, Charlie. 1025 00:50:56,730 --> 00:50:59,210 It was rough. It was a rough far. 1026 00:50:59,210 --> 00:51:01,970 It became Doulans. OK that. 1027 00:51:01,970 --> 00:51:02,610 Yeah. Yeah. 1028 00:51:02,610 --> 00:51:04,810 So back in the day, it was champagne Charlies. 1029 00:51:04,810 --> 00:51:08,290 It was kind of like, OK, it was like the the B level strippers, 1030 00:51:08,290 --> 00:51:09,330 right. You know what I mean? 1031 00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:12,690 But apparently David Lee Roth, when he was in town, he would 1032 00:51:12,690 --> 00:51:15,730 rent the whole pop floor and he would party there for like a 1033 00:51:15,730 --> 00:51:17,970 month and, you know, have a rotation of all that. 1034 00:51:18,130 --> 00:51:20,650 So, you know, even those kind of crazy stories like, you know 1035 00:51:20,650 --> 00:51:21,730 that. Oh, I. 1036 00:51:22,090 --> 00:51:23,440 Found. Yeah. 1037 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,360 For sure, say maybe. Do like a Vancouver beautiful, 1038 00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:31,640 ugliest, the the crazy kind of reminisce of the crazy city that 1039 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,720 used to be. And I hope it comes back to that 1040 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:37,280 because again, I I was born and raised in the city. 1041 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:42,520 I've, you know, I've been here really since like 1977, and this 1042 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,320 is the worst version, the Vancouver I've ever seen. 1043 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,800 The most expensive, the most douchiest, the most violent. 1044 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,600 The most Vidido distilled. Suck. 1045 00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:55,040 God, yeah, man. They like every act. 1046 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,360 Everything. You just said. 1047 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,600 Yeah, I'm on say, hey man, this is, yeah, I don't recognize my 1048 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,480 city anymore. No to. 1049 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,680 Be fair. I think it's going to get worse. 1050 00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:07,760 Yeah, I don't. You'll see it getting better. 1051 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:12,600 I see it's going to get worse. As far as I'm concerned, the 1052 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,000 policies and reasons that this is happening, that the people 1053 00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:19,440 who have implemented them have told us and warned us, it's 1054 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:21,080 going to get out. They want. 1055 00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:24,560 Yeah, I think, and I don't. I don't think you need to go 1056 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,760 down any conspiracies or rabbit holes. 1057 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:30,160 Just listen to them when they talk and they've they've pretty 1058 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,440 much told you. Yeah, yeah. 1059 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,720 And then there's no, like, again, I'm used to, like, back 1060 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,400 when I grew up in Vancouver, I was used to like having a really 1061 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,960 good opposition, even if it was NDP and the Conservative or 1062 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,760 whatever they're called, the Liberals or Social Credit or 1063 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,000 whatever name they change themselves to, they keep 1064 00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,120 changing their name. But. 1065 00:52:50,460 --> 00:52:53,620 There was always like opposition and balance and there doesn't. 1066 00:52:53,620 --> 00:52:55,060 Screen these and. Talents. 1067 00:52:55,620 --> 00:52:56,700 No. No. 1068 00:52:56,700 --> 00:53:00,660 And the and the politicians in my opinion, just seem so 1069 00:53:00,660 --> 00:53:04,940 lackluster and they're we're cutting the ribbon. 1070 00:53:04,940 --> 00:53:06,900 We're we're here, you know, waving a flag. 1071 00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:09,500 You know they're just like they do all their phone talks. 1072 00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:10,700 They're just like. Manic. 1073 00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:12,420 Yeah, like Kobe. Kobe. 1074 00:53:12,860 --> 00:53:14,780 Showing, showing this. There's really no difference 1075 00:53:14,780 --> 00:53:17,500 between any of the parties helping the same damn thing. 1076 00:53:17,900 --> 00:53:19,900 You know, I mean now of course they're running for elections, 1077 00:53:19,900 --> 00:53:21,060 so they're saying different things. 1078 00:53:21,140 --> 00:53:24,540 But what did they do during? Well, this didn't matter what 1079 00:53:24,540 --> 00:53:26,620 province you're in, so or at all. 1080 00:53:26,860 --> 00:53:30,620 They certainly seem to be of 1 mind on this stuff. 1081 00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:33,060 And the problems happening in Vancouver are happening in 1082 00:53:33,340 --> 00:53:34,500 Calgary. It's run. 1083 00:53:34,540 --> 00:53:36,740 Yeah, I know. It's not just, I said in 1084 00:53:36,740 --> 00:53:38,740 Vancouver and. American cities, too. 1085 00:53:38,940 --> 00:53:41,860 You know, yeah. Yeah, all the West Coast cities 1086 00:53:41,860 --> 00:53:45,060 are, like, scary as hell, too. Like, especially, like LA, 1087 00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:49,100 Portland, San Francisco. Yeah, Seattle. 1088 00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:50,900 I pulled a lot of down on Seattle. 1089 00:53:50,900 --> 00:53:53,340 You. Know cuz they hurry down on 1090 00:53:53,420 --> 00:53:56,140 policies that didn't work for them and we're like, oh, that's 1091 00:53:56,140 --> 00:53:57,660 gonna work down there. Well, we'll try it. 1092 00:53:57,660 --> 00:54:02,060 We'll do it even more ridiculous and it's just not didn't work 1093 00:54:02,060 --> 00:54:03,980 there, it's not working here. Yeah. 1094 00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:06,500 And it's not safe. It's it's becoming dangerous, 1095 00:54:06,500 --> 00:54:07,860 right. So, yeah. 1096 00:54:08,290 --> 00:54:10,610 We'll continue the conversation. Richard, thank you so much for 1097 00:54:10,610 --> 00:54:13,650 coming barred and for having. OK, take care, but.