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I met Craig at a gym downtown 
Vancouver called Neighborhood 

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Gym because it was a gym that 
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It was on the corner of Drake 
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It was right across from the 
Cecil nightclub, which was a 

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strip bar. 
So we'd get a lot of strippers 

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in the but we had a lot of 
doormen, bouncers that worked 

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out there. 
You had people that were kind of

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more in the gangster life, male 
strippers, female strippers, gay

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community worked out there. 
It was a very popular and 

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colorful place and I loved it 
because it was great people 

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watching. 
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Craig stood out to be. 
Craig looked like a younger 

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version of George Hamilton. 
He's an old movie star who's 

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always tanned and they had very 
similar facial features. 

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Craig was very avident to 
working out. 

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He was in the bodybuilding and 
he did use steroids and selling 

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steroids to lot of the 
bodybuilders and bouncers and 

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people that were who worked out 
at neighborhoods gym. 

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Craig told me he was from 
Toronto ON told me he had a pass

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where he did go to jail. 
I believe it had to do with 

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cocaine. 
He mentioned to me too that he 

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had passed drug addiction issues
with cocaine and he said that he

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used so much cocaine in the past
that he had liver issues in 

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Toronto. 
He owned a Corvette. 

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In his height of his addiction, 
he sold his Corvette for 30 

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grand and he spent all that 
money on cocaine in less than 

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one month. 
So he had addiction issues, he 

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said. 
He was also in prison in back in

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Ontario. 
He's always talk about all these

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mob connections. 
He's wise guys and I I didn't 

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know if that was true or not. 
But anyways that's what he told 

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me. 
But he, as I said, I like the 

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guy. 
He had good stories. 

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He was very crismatic. 
He he's kind of person that when

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you're around, he always made 
you laugh and he kind of lifted 

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your spirit up, you having a 
crappy day. 

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He was always fun to hang out 
with, but he had a lot of corks.

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I met him at the time when he 
was still working at the Four 

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Season Hotel, and then one day 
he's abruptly quit. 

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He never gave the details of why
he quit the job, but he did. 

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He quit really, with almost like
no notice there. 

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He would never go out to eat at 
restaurants, but he had, he 

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seemed to have some kind of 
strange food phobia. 

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He would never eat out. 
Other than that, he was a very 

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health conscious person. 
When I knew him, he was really 

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into working out. 
He did use steroids, which I 

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thought was strange if he had a 
lot of liver issues, especially 

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from doing so much cocaine. 
He never used cocaine in front 

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of me. 
He never drank in front of me 

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and he was always very sober, 
even if we would go out to a 

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nightclub or something. 
He drank coffee or water. 

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He didn't drink alcohol ever in 
front of me, thought that he was

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a person who had a past, had a 
few corks. 

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I got Craig work and we work 
together for almost an entire 

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summer and he was a very hard 
working guy. 

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He showed up for work every day.
He worked very hard. 

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It was a pretty hard job. 
It was never once ever 

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complained, always was in a good
mood, and he was actually a 

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great guy to work with. 
Then when that job finished, I 

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went back to doing more 
bouncing. 

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He told me that he got a job at 
the Odyssey, which was a gay 

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nightclub, but then he dropped 
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He told me the reason, like he 
told me straight up, the reason 

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why he got a job at the Odyssey 
specifically or dealing cocaine,

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which really shocked me. 
And one of the things about the 

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Odyssey, even though it was a 
gay nightclub, it was an open 

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secret. 
There was a lot of cocaine in 

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that nightclub. 
So straight or gay, if you 

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needed cocaine for your party 
night or or needed to get more 

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in that and the Odyssey was 
open. 

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It was a place to go. 
Like it was an open secret that 

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you walk in. 
He was getting steroids from a 

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group of people that would that 
lived in Chilliwack and I have 

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no idea how he met these people 
from Chilliwack. 

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That is a mystery to me. 
These people in Chilliwack and 

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he did tell me they were neo 
Nazis. 

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They were actually real neo 
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guns and as he referred that 
they like to play army. 

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He said he could even buy hand 
grenades and for he was getting 

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cocaine from and he told me that
their cocaine was so pure that 

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when he worked at the nightclub 
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he was getting customers is that
he was promising not to step on 

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it, not to cut it with anything 
and he was going to sell it 

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cheaper. 
And if memory serves me correct,

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around 1995 cocaine was going 
for about $100 a gram. 

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He was selling it for 80, 
promising it to be pure and and 

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not to be stepped on or cut with
anything. 

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So obviously he started to do 
well and get customers pretty 

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fast. 
Truly underestimated the type of

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blowback and the seriousness of 
of organized criminals in 

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Vancouver. 
Cuz he again he would tell a lot

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of stories about, you know, 
mobsters that he knew in Toronto

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and I never. 
I never skipping ahead. 

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When I did talk to a homicide 
detective after he was murdered,

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I did mention that he would talk
about mobsters and wiseguys and 

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they said they looked into it. 
They didn't see any connections 

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of it. 
They I I went to his apartment 

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one time and soon as I walked 
in, you know, he showed me this 

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huge amount of money that he 
made. 

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I think the money I think there 
was like 20 grand in a big role 

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and he was excited because 
Welfare Wednesday was coming up 

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and every drug dealer knows on 
welfare Wednesday and BC pre 

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make pre pretty much guaranteed 
to make double the amount of 

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money that you normally made. 
So he was excited because he was

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going to take his big cash flow 
and he was going to buy a ton of

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cocaine and he was going to make
all this money on welfare 

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Wednesday. 
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And he showed me, he did, you 
know, he showed me this huge 

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block of cocaine that he 
currently had and it was, you 

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know, it was an impressive 
block. 

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It was the probably list. 
It was quite big. 

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He had to use his whole hand 
that kind of show it to me. 

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And I was, you know, quite 
shocked about, you know, 

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disturbing again is that here I 
walk in, you know, we, yeah, 

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we're close friends. 
I've known him well. 

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We work together. 
We traveled to Mexico together, 

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not even in 2 minutes of being 
in his apartment. 

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He showed me the amount of money
he has and he showed me his 

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massive stash of cocaine and I. 
So this continued on. 

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He worked at the Odyssey for 
about seven months. 

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I believed to be honest, he when
he was doing this, I actually 

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stopped hanging out with. 
I felt that he was diving in 

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deep waters, that he really was 
under estimating. 

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One of the last times I saw him,
I was walking by his apartment. 

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He lived on Pendrell Street. 
I believe he lived. 

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He was in front of his building 
and he walked up to me and goes,

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oh, I just dropped the dime on a
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And I'm like, what now? 
From the neighborhood I grew up 

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in, You know, ratting on 
dealers, Rat. 

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Being a rat is like the worst 
thing possible. 

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And now he's telling me, and 
he's probably telling other 

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people that he snitched out some
other dealer. 

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I guess he was having some some 
issues with, and I think this 

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other dealer also worked at the 
Odyssey. 

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He just all I remember about 
him, he didn't give me the guy's

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name. 
I wouldn't say it anyways, but 

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he didn't say the guy's name. 
He just referred to this guy's 

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French Canadian. 
He said this guy had a very hot 

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temper and he was very 
temperamental and you know, he's

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a French Canadian cocaine 
dealer. 

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He's probably, you know, 
obviously he's going to be a 

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little, you know, high strung. 
And he told me flat out he 

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dropped the dime on this guy. 
To be honest, I was actually 

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hoping that he would get 
arrested rather than one of 

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these dealers get his hands on. 
Because what I understood too, 

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you know, this is of information
that I found after his murder, 

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is that the people that were in 
charge, you know, again, we're 

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talking about a lot of money. 
And here's an Odyssey nightclub 

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that's a very popular nightclub.
It's extremely popular. 

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If you went by on the Saturday, 
Sundays, you know, it was a 

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packed place. 
And then I'm sure it did well 

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during the weekday. 
And we're talking about millions

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of dollars of cocaine being 
sold, you know, each year. 

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And here's a guy just walks in 
and starts undercutting and 

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trying to get all that money for
himself. 

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And he was making a lot of 
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He was very active and he 
started dealing out of his 

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apartment too. 
And he you know, I did. 

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I stopped that. 
As I said, I stopped hanging out

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with them. 
But I would call him often 

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because I was truly worried 
about him and I was secretly 

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hoping he was going to get 
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My gut feeling I knew something 
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him around the close to the 
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I I called him one time I was 
OK. 

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He he told me about dropping a 
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So now I'm really worried about 
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So I'm calling him. 
I I used to call him at least 

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once a week. 
So one day on the phone he calls

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me and he says, oh I just bought
a 45 caliber handgun from the 

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Nazi guys. 
Him being involved with Nazis 

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always disturb me too because 
you know, I I I I'm, I'm a 

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person of color. 
You know I'm half Icelandic, but

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I'm on my dad's side is native 
black and other stuff. 

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So I'm. 
I have a lot of melatonin in my 

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skin and he's never ever 
expressed any type of like 

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racist ideologies. 
And you know even at the gym 

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there was a lot of black guys 
and people of every color and he

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was always friendly with anyone 
and I never ever heard of make a

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racist remark about any people. 
So him being involved with neo 

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Nazis was always kind of very 
disturbing. 

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So I try to think well, maybe 
it's just for business but still

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it it's it's kind of disturbing,
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He said he bought a handgun, a 
45 caliber handgun from these 

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Nazis. 
So I'm thinking, wow, he must be

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getting serious or he's getting 
scared. 

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Maybe he's getting threats. 
This is, Are you being 

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threatened? 
Because, you know, again, big 

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mouth telling everyone is 
business, telling everyone he's 

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dropping Dimes, you know, 
writing letters to the nightclub

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that he was telling cocaine. 
And like, he's making a lot of 

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noise. 
But then he drops another 

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bombshell, which I think is 
like, Oh my God, like they are. 

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Are you retarded? 
Are you really starting to use 

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cocaine? 
Because I think towards his 

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death, I I truly speculate that 
he was using cocaine because 

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earlier I asked him if he was 
and he said he wasn't because he

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had liver issues, but I think he
was at the end. 

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Then he told me that he doesn't 
have the handgun anymore. 

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He's he mailed it to his father 
and I'm just like, what? 

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Okay? 
That sounds kind of dumb, but 

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then he told me that he was 
planning to move back to Toronto

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and he's been mailing his 
assets. 

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He's been buying a lot of stuff 
with all his cocaine money, and 

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he was mailing and stuff. 
And I'm thinking, if you're a 

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dealer and you're selling 
cocaine and you're ratting 

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people out and you're you got to
be smart enough to know that 

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you're burning bridges and 
you're pissing people off. 

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But I, I, I, But I think in his 
delusion, he didn't think anyone

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was going to happen to him 
because maybe he did think that 

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he was some kind of wise guy or 
something, you know, because he 

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did. 
Like, as I said, he did talk a 

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lot about all these mafia 
connections he had, which again,

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none of them have ever been 
substantiated. 

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And when I talked to the police,
they said, no, we didn't find 

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any of that, right? 
So moving forward here, he drops

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a dime. 
You know, he's doing stupid 

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things. 
He's buying guns and bailing it 

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to his dad. 
And then he told me that he 

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painted his entire apartment 
because his apartment was white 

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in the very white, very bright. 
And he painted the whole 

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apartment, apparently flat 
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And the police said even the 
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As I said, I stopped going there
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you know, be seen or hang out 
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something dangerous was going to
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And it did so and then he told 
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apartment and he has boa 
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And then he told me he was 
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transgender woman who was his 
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of time with. 
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of like a relationship. 
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this is because even though I 
never met this woman, he told me

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he started dating this woman 
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two years that he ever 
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dating or actually having some 
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the woman. 
Like, again, he never talked 

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about that. 
So he told me he met a woman 

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named Lana who who apparently he
said had Russian organized crime

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tech ties. 
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I don't know. 
I don't think she was in the 

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Russian mafia, but apparently 
her family or whatever had these

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connections. 
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also seeing this transgender 
woman that was his neighbor and 

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apparently when this Lana got a 
wind of this, she was so upset 

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and so enraged that she 
threatened him at knifepoint. 

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And and Craig actually told me 
that he was afraid of her. 

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He was afraid of this woman. 
And here's a guy who's dropping 

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Dimes on hardcore drug dealers 
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big elbows and a loudmouth and 
undercutting all the dealers 

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there. 
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ever expressed fear, like he was
actually said he was afraid of 

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this woman. 
Asked him sorry, how did he even

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meet meet this Lana. 
Well, there is another nightclub

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that's called Celebrities. 
That's it's a gay nightclub, a 

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lot of straight people, every 
people there. 

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But it's primary gay night. 
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celebrities and he met Lana and 
they had actual sex in the 

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nightclub in some, you know, 
secluded place. 

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And he was so enthralled by her 
and stuff And and then when she 

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found out about the trans men, 
transgender woman, she 

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apparently had made her just go 
completely psychotic and he said

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he was afraid of her. 
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the Neo Catsys man. 
I'm pretty sure that if they 

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found out that he was going to 
gain nightclubs and dating a 

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transgender woman, they would 
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And then there's the dealers 
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He was stepping on at the 
Odyssey because I know for a 

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fact talking to people, he 
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Again, we're talking a lot of 
money. 

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So leading up to his death, I I 
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but but the strange thing 
happened is I had a clock radio 

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that I would set as alarm clock.
So instead as an alarm, a radio 

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would go off. 
And I used to listen to a lot of

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talk radio, you know, in the 
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When I did work or whatever I 
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the talk radio playing. 
The alarm went off. 

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I'm laying in bed. 
It was December 21st, and they 

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said a man's body, a victim of 
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West End on 1155 Penril St. the 
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And I knew instantly it was 
Craig, because it was just like 

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no one was doing the crazy 
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building to that level, 
attracting that much attention 

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and creating that many enemies 
than this guy. 

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So I try to call him a bunch of 
times, no answer, no answer, 

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straight to voicemail, straight 
to voicemail. 

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And I had the sick feeling in my
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And then a couple days later I 
get a call from a homicide 

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detective from Vancouver police 
and I and I told them 

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everything. 
I went and met them. 

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I told them yes. 
I knew he was selling cocaine at

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the at the Odyssey. 
He had a crazy Russian 

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girlfriend that he was afraid of
who threatened him at 

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knifepoint. 
Apparently he was dumb. 

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He told everybody that would 
listen to him about how much 

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money he was making. 
He showed me even where he even 

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hid his money in his apartment. 
You know, you showed me his 

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cocaine stash. 
He showed me he was, he was 

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telling me all kinds of stories,
right? 

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And I said to him, he had a huge
mouth. 

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And then I told him about the 
handgun. 

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I said, he also told me he 
bought a handgun from these 

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Nazis. 
I told him about the Nazis and 

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and the cops and yeah, yeah, we 
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So therefore, established that 
these Nazis real because that 

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part of my, I'm wondering, I was
like, did he make these Nazis 

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up? 
Like it was it was it like kind 

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of a new story that he was 
always talk about these mobster 

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guys. 
So I was never sure if these 

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guys even existed that it was 
something he made-up. 

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But then the cop said yes and 
then the cop said something 

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really disturbing. 
They asked a lot about his 

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sexuality they acts. 
I found out through other 

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sources to the way he was 
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He was he was tied. 
He was bound and he was sexually

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basically was sexually 
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He never. 
And the other thing was kind of 

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disturbing. 
They did ask a lot about his, 

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his Nazi ideology, his beliefs. 
And I said, well, that's kind of

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shocking because I know him, we 
were pretty close friends and 

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you know, we had other friends 
of color that were black and you

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know of other, you know, racial.
He's, as I said, he never ever 

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made any kind of racial remarks 
or anything like that. 

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But they said he had a lot of 
Nazi neo Nazi literature, like 

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quite a lot of it. 
And so these Nazis were real, 

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right. 
A weird love triangle with a 

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transgender woman and a Russian 
mobster. 

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Neo Nazis, you know, whole slew 
of drug dealers pissed off that 

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he was undercutting them. 
Cops did not give me details 

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about how he died but they did 
kind of say between his lines 

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and said yeah, it was pretty 
brutal and and they kept 

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mentioning the sexual element. 
So it was it was very clear that

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he died in a There was a very 
sexual component of how he died.

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I when I talked to people you 
know through the Grapevine who 

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also knew about this case and 
also knew him and and and one of

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the strange things too that a 
friend of mine, Kevin told me 

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when was Kevin? 
I mentioned on this pod on this 

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podcast, every time I make a 
podcast he knew a lot of people 

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and kind of more that Underworld
than I did at the time. 

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And he told me that he heard 
that he was tied up and 

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basically he was he was 
violently sexually assaulted 

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with even with objects and 
stuff. 

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So he died in a very terrible 
way. 

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Like it just I couldn't imagine 
like you know how he went out 

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and then he wasn't found for 
they believe that he wasn't 

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found for about 3 days and that 
that's what my understanding 

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was. 
You know it wasn't a surprise 

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but it was obviously awful about
how he died. 5I followed up with

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the police a few times just to 
say hey, if you guys just got a 

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period of curiosity was a friend
has there been any developments 

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They said they were looking for 
that Russian woman, Lana. 

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They never did find her as far 
as my understanding. 

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I think this is like there's I 
think what makes this case 

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difficult that we there was so 
many people that could have done

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it. 
I do appreciate you listening 

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And God, you know, as again, 
this one is one that always has 

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haunted me. 
And you know Craig Abraham, rest

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in peace. 
Sorry what happened to your 

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brother. 
But God, you know, I hope you're

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in a better place. 
And I'm going to close it out on

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here. 
Thank you so much for listening.

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Have a great day.
