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So for long as I remember, 
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of a different place. 
Little quirky marches to its own

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drums. 
Maybe it's due to its isolation 

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from other major cities. 
It's always had its own kind of 

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unique culture. 
When I was growing up, it was a 

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kind of a combination of laid 
back hippie working class and I 

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grew up in East Vancouver in the
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When I did, it was a very 
working class neighborhood, kind

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of tough, actually quite tough. 
In the 90s. 

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I spent my life in Kitsilano, 
went to Kitsilano High School in

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Grade 10 to graduated in Grade 
12 and it was very different 

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from my childhood in East 
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Obviously it wasn't as tough. 
It was very laid back, it was 

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still kind of a hippie beach 
kind of neighborhood and in a 

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lot of ways it kind of helped me
detox and rehab myself mentally 

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and emotionally. 
But looking back in my life in 

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East Vancouver, I would never 
trade it for anything. 

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It made me who I am today. 
In that area of East Vancouver. 

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You really got a held 
accountable for your behavior in

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action. 
If you thought you were a tough 

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guy, well, there was always 
someone tougher than you that 

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was very willing to challenge 
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If you were mouthy, you 
definitely got checked. 

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The way to get respect from 
people is to be authentic, to 

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walk the walk, not just talk to 
talk. 

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We'd call those kind of people 
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guys, fake gangsters, fake 
skateboarders. 

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You know, they had all the cool 
skateboarding gear, but they 

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didn't know how to skateboard or
BMX. 

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You know, they have the coolest,
nicest shiny BMX bike, but they 

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didn't know how to ride it. 
Inauthenticy, Being inauthentic 

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was very looked down upon and 
that always stuck with me 

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because in that neighborhood 
that I grew up in, we were all 

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from different nationalities, 
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Ukrainian, Russian, Yugoslavian,
Chinese native, and it didn't 

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really matter who you were far 
as there was not really, you 

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know, the racism was more 
teasing more to poke someone's 

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soft spot. 
What we cared about is being 

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authentic. 
Do what you're saying you're 

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going to do, being reliable for 
your friends, have each other's 

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back and look out for each 
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And that's how I've always 
treated people and that's how I 

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always want to treat people. 
But on the other hand, in East 

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Vancouver, I did see, you know, 
the community could be quite 

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cruel to outcasts. 
And I did see a lot of kids get 

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viciously bullied. 
I had some blight, bullying, 

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minor stuff compared to some 
other kids. 

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But I was always a scrappy kid. 
I was skinny, but even if I 

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didn't win a fight, I would 
always really willing to fight. 

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So that kind of helped me out, 
even if the kid end up beating 

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me, I made sure I got a few good
shots in and a lot of the fist 

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fights I had at a young age, you
know, we would shake hands after

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and they became my best friends.
But the kids that couldn't do 

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that or played the victim or 
tattletaled or squealed or 

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ratted as we would say they 
would, they would bring on more 

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trouble to themselves. 
And I'm not excusing bullying 

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behavior, but some of the kids 
really brought it on themselves.

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They would stir up shit, they 
would gossip, they would pit 

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people against each other. 
And there was quite a ferocious 

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reckoning when you did that. 
A lot of my friends that I grew 

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up with, a lot of them had good 
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The ethnic for kids, the kids 
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meaning India, not native, the 
Eastern Europeans, the Italians 

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had very close knit families. 
I enjoyed their family dynamics.

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I enjoyed how they were a tight 
knit, how they took care of each

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other, how they helped each 
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When one of them was working on 
a house or painting or needed 

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something fixed, their whole 
families would show up and pitch

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in and help. 
I also liked that if someone 

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messed with a member of their 
clan, their whole crew would 

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show up. 
Like I remember this one kid, he

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was Indian, tall and skinny, 
nice kid. 

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I liked him. 
He I actually got along really 

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well with him and you know some 
shitty shit bird kids were 

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messing with him. 
He went home, told his older 

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brothers he had a big family, he
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His his brothers got on the 
horn, got on the phone, all the 

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uncles showed up. 
And then the shitty kids in the 

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park thought they had the 
victory over the skinny Indian 

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kid. 
And then the whole clan showed 

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up. 
The whole crew, car after car 

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after car. 
There is tons and tons of uncles

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all piling out of the car. 
They fucked with the wrong dude.

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I love that shit. 
You know what I mean? 

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Hey, no one ever messed with 
that kid again. 

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But The thing is, is we were all
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were the same because we all 
were outcasts. 

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A lot of my Canadian friends, 
you know, their dads were very 

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blue collar, very construct, 
were heavy drinkers, you know, 

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and my mom would let them over 
at our house, would feed them, 

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you know, sometimes they just 
couldn't go home because dad was

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drunk, right? 
So my mom would take care of 

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him, you know, dinner time, you 
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need to. 
You know, my mom was more of a 

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hippie, but man, she would give 
some of these dads shit, you 

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know, when they get a little bit
too rough with their kids. 

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So we're all grew up in this E 
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We all came from different parts
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Some of us were multi generation
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off the boat, Vietnamese, 
Portuguese, Italian, Eastern 

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European and we're all in the 
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We're outcasts right? 
Trying to make our start. 

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The rest of the city looked down
on us because we were E fanners.

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My mom's side of the family were
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was cut off for all her hippie 
bullshit in the 60s and 70s. 

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So, you know, she was in exile 
in East Vancouver with the rest 

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of us outcasts. 
Because of that, my my mom's 

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side of the family still sent me
to this fancy summer camp with 

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all these rich kids. 
And when I would tell them I was

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from East Vancouver, my God, you
think I was from the ghetto, you

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know what I mean? 
The projects, which wasn't the 

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case. 
I lived in a house, had a nice 

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backyard. 
My mom had a beautiful garden. 

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My especially the, my Italian 
friends had beautiful houses, 

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swimming pools, big wine 
Cellars. 

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They're probably their houses 
were nicer than these kids that 

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lived on the West side that 
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But there was a stigma is my 
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You know, we were working class,
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You know, we weren't as quite as
good as the, you know, the blue 

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ribbon kids, you know, went to 
the fancy schools and dads had 

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nice white collar jobs that but 
we had pride. 

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We had pride in our group, our 
multi ethnic Mötley Crüe. 

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My I'll tell you a funny story. 
I remember my mom took us to a 

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movie, right? 
So there was myself, there's my 

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brother. 
There was a guy named Mark Bow 

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who was really big, but he was 
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massive. 
And he had like a big reddish 

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blonde Afro. 
Then he had his best friend who 

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was Samoan. 
It was, it was from Tonga. 

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And he had a big, big fuzzy 
Afro, but he was big. 

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They're the same size. 
Then there was my East Indian 

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friend, my native, my sorry, my 
Indian friend from India, a 

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friend from Fiji, another friend
who was half black, who was his 

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mom was blonde, so he was black 
with blue eyes and had a blonde 

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Afro. 
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we're all we're dressed to say, 
wearing our Jean jackets with 

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our, you know, our patches of 
our favorite bands on the back. 

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Iron Maid and ACDC, Black 
Sabbath, Ozzy movies were cheap 

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back then. 
It was like, you know, it was 

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250 Tuesdays. 
They still have. 

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So mom took us all to a movie 
and this man looked at my mom 

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all up and down and saw this all
these multi ethnic kids that 

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kind of looked the same, but 
different races because we're 

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all dressed the same. 
We kind of look alike. 

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And he looked at my mom and 
gasped and said, where's their 

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fathers? 
And my mom snorted at him, 

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really got mad at him. 
She goes, they're all at home. 

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I'm just taking him to a movie. 
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was like this weird, I don't 
know, attitude that the rest of 

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the city had towards kids and 
people from Easton. 

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So I understand right from a 
young age to be looked down 

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upon, to be judged, to be, you 
know, that sort of thing. 

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In Grade 10, I ended up going to
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from there from Grade 10 to 
Grade 12, and Kitsilina was a 

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very different neighborhood. 
It was very chill, very laid 

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back. 
It was still a very hippie 

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neighborhood, and in a lot of 
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It was almost like detoxing. 
It was almost a rehab mentally 

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and emotionally for me when I 
first started Grade 10. 

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I still try to keep this tough 
persona, you know, the Jean 

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jackets, the Iron Man, still 
love metal music, but it was 

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kind of like a defense 
mechanism. 

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Cuz again, you know, you're used
to always having to put up this 

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image that you're ready to fight
at a drop of a hat at any type 

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of disrespect. 
And, and, you know, it's a bit 

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of a persona, but it's also a 
survival mechanism when you're 

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in a very, you know, a hostile 
environment. 

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So he's found like, again, it 
wasn't always hostile, but it 

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can get hostile very quick. 
So you got to be ready to step 

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up, you know, at a, at a 
moment's notice. 

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So in kits that was unnecessary.
It really wasn't, you know, it 

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really was. 
So in grade 10, you know, I, I 

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carried this tough guy, you 
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And, and, and then I realized in
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this anymore. 
It was almost like a relief. 

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I can just be myself. 
Just. 

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Be myself and and grade 11 I 
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different kid because, you know,
no one bullied me no one 

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bothered me there right. 
Everybody was chill, everyone 

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was hippie, everyone was laid 
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And, you know, we, we had a term
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alternative. 
Everyone. 

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There was a lot of alternative 
kids, you know, that was a big 

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scene, you know, like the 
alternative music and stuff. 

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And it's kind of, you know, 
quirky and it's a mixture of of 

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of, you know, different genres, 
kind of granola kind of hippie, 

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kind of very West Coast, right? 
And it was nice to be in an 

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environment where I can just 
chill, just relax, right? 

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And you know, everyone smoked 
weed. 

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No one drank. 
And it was kind of funny in East

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Vancouver, everyone would 
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No one smoked any weed. 
And in kits, see how people 

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drank a little bit. 
I'm talking when you got to 

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house parties and things like 
that. 

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But you know, everyone smoked 
weed, maybe did mushrooms and 

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listen to Pink Floyd and you 
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So it was, it was nice for me to
be able just to pursue my 

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interests without any 
harassment, without any 

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bullshit. 
You know, I got into I, I did 

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well at school. 
I really applied myself, really 

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got into athleticism and sports.
I was into boxing. 

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I played rugby. 
I went to the gym like twice a 

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day. 
My workout partner Kevin, we'd 

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get up at 6:00 AM, go to the gym
in the morning, go to school, 

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I'd work out at lunch sometimes 
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right. 
We, we were just at fanatics. 

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And like I said, for the first 
time in my entire childhood, you

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know, even though in grade 1112,
I felt like I could just be 

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myself without any. 
And I didn't like cliques 

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because after E Vancouver, where
we were one big massive clique 

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and you did have to really 
conform, if that makes sense. 

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Because it's like we were all 
different, but we all were the 

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same, if that makes sense. 
Where since I felt free now in 

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this kitsilino environment, I 
didn't, you know what I mean? 

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I did my thing and I was friends
with everybody. 

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I was friends with the 
skateboarders, I was friends 

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with the jocks, I was friends 
with the, you know, the drama 

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kids, 'cause I love drama, you 
know, I used to, I was always, 

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you know, took lots of drama 
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So I was friends with the actors
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friends with the goth girls. 
I'd always smoke weed with them 

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'cause I like the same kind of 
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I was kind of the kid that 
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stuck to myself. 
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more intriguing and stuff too. 
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high school, and I want to talk 
about a certain stage of my life

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where it was a time of my life 
where I had a very terrible set 

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of circumstances. 
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type of mindset, this could have
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This could have seriously 
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This is the, these are the, the 
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understand how people get lost 
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And I truly understand how 
people become homeless and 

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become addicted to drugs and 
cast out by society. 

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Because it almost happened to 
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And it happened in a way that I,
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years after high school. 
You know, I've, I've done 

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different stuff in my life. 
I did construction. 

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I worked in bars and I was 
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I just enjoyed working out 
because it was my outlet, you 

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know, venting all my childhood 
trauma. 

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And I like the idea of putting 
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I saw the results. 
If I work out every day. 

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If I run every day, If I hit the
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You can see yourself. 
Gradually improve and I was 

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never in competition with it 
with anyone else. 

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I was always in competition with
myself. 

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I never did any competitive 
bodybuilding. 

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I knew a lot of competitive 
bodybuilding and I didn't, 

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honestly, I'll be just straight 
up, I didn't like the amount of 

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drugs and steroids and all the 
stuff they had to take because I

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truly, if you know, behind the 
scenes, if you know, you know, 

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like I had friends that would 
take up to 30,000 dollars, 

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$50,000 worth of steroids a 
year. 

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And, and they look big, but I 
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that good. 
They just look big, massive and 

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bloated. 
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people using steroids. 
I don't have any judgement 

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against it. 
But if that's all what you're 

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about, right, then you're just 
using, you're just chasing 

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drugs, right? 
You know what I mean? 

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That's just my opinion. 
You know, do what makes you 

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happy. 
But I didn't want to be on 

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massive amounts of boatloads of 
steroids, right? 

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So the, the competitive 
bodybuilding became less and 

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less appealing. 
And because I had kind of a 

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guest, you know, a handsome face
looked like the boy next door, 

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clean cut with muscles. 
I got print work, I got modeling

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work. 
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because that meant I was able to
do something with all the work I

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put in the gym while other guys 
were, you know, going on these 

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crazy starvation diets half the 
year and taking mass amounts of 

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steroids. 
And, you know, their love them 

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were kind of lunatics, right? 
I'll turn in the story some 

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other time, right? 
Just didn't didn't seem like a 

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good lifestyle. 
I was able to balance my life 

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out, if that makes sense, Do the
things I wanted, not be so 

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extreme, if that makes sense. 
I like training. 

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I like training people. 
So I started doing personal 

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training and I built up, you 
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people that personal train. 
I had some housewives. 

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I had, you know, some guys, 
some, you know, more business 

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type of dudes that, you know, 
got a bit of a beer belly and 

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they want to get back in the 
shape. 

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Because I worked out at 
neighborhood Gym, which is a gym

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that no longer exists. 
It was right across from the 

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Cecil. 
It used to be a strip bar. 

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And that strip bar, you know, 
Gee, I went there a few times 

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and a lot of the strippers 
worked out there. 

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And I knew one of the agents and
he would send me strippers to 

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train because, you know, 
strippers, they, they, they're 

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paid on how good they look. 
They would do contest mis nude 

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this and mis nude that. 
So the better they look, you 

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know, the more money they make 
and the more money they make, 

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the more the agent makes. 
So he would send me, I had about

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6 strippers that I used to train
regularly. 

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And then I had this one really 
rich client, a millionaire. 

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He was from Hong Kong. 
And at first he was super cool. 

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His workouts were pathetic. 
I could never ever get him to do

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or commit to a, a decent 
workout. 

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But I worked out this guy, he 
worked out three days a week, 

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paid me $200 a session. 
First, I didn't even want to 

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bother with the guy cuz I, you 
know, I maybe it was gut 

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instinct. 
And he asked me how much it 

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would be cost to personal train 
him. 

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I just said 200 bucks, 200 bucks
a session. 

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And I was like, oh, and he's 
like OK, no problem. 

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So 200. 
So 600 bucks a week and his 

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workouts were, were pathetic. 
I tried, you know, try to push 

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him and no, he'd whine and cry 
and you know, he was probably 

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like 5 foot two and maybe about 
180 lbs. 

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His workout consisted of him on 
the exercise bike for 10 minutes

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where I had to stand beside him,
hand him a towel, right? 

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Get him a bottle of water, 
right? 

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Change his weights on the 
machines. 

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You know what I mean? 
You know, I tried it, you know, 

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at first, you know, writing 
programs and this wasn't 

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happening. 
So it was kind of frustrating. 

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It was really frustrating. 
But hey, 600 bucks a week, you 

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know what I mean? 
For three hours, you know what I

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mean? 
Not bad, right? 

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And at first he was cool, right?
He would, he'd go to trips to 

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Hong Kong and he'd bring me back
designer clothing because of 

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him. 
I had a polo shirt and every 

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single color and I had all those
lacrosse crocodile shirts and 

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every, I think I had about 50 of
them, you know, bought me like 

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nice, like cashmere sweaters and
he'd buy me nice shit, right? 

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Kind of cool. 
In Hong Kong, he owned 

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restaurants and you know, he, he
was rich. 

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He was like, you know, multi 
millionaire. 

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But again, like I said, you 
know, I always try to be 

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friendly with him, try to be 
cordial and, you know, 

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sometimes, you know, just to 
show off for his, his, his other

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rich friends. 
He'd invite me to parties. 

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And sometimes I quite to be 
totally honest, I didn't like 

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that because I just felt like he
made me always feel like I was a

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servant, if that makes sense. 
But part of his entourage, and 

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trust me, wasn't my style at all
to be someones entourage, 

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especially, you know, a 
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and you know what I mean? 
Like we weren't friends is my 

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point, right? 
He was my client, right? 

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And sometimes I felt he kind of 
blurred that line a bit and you 

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know what I mean? 
But then then, you know, I'd 

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rationalize like, hey, but you 
know what? 

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You know, 1200 bucks every two 
weeks, 2400 bucks a month. 

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My rent was a whopping like 
$700.00 at the time. 

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So I thought good client right? 
You know I was making good money

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with my clients right? 
So finally had the personal 

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training business. 
Like, I felt like I could relax 

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a little. 
Anyways, make a Long story 

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short. 
But to give you some idea what 

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was like, you know, personal 
training him. 

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And then he would send me 
clients and they never worked 

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out. 
They just got really 

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aggravating. 
So again, there was another 

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woman from Hong Kong, nice lady 
and really liked her. 

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We went out for lunch. 
She was a businesswoman, you 

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know, again, very wealthy and 
she wanted to get in shape. 

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So I said, OK, cool, right. 
We, I, I sat down, we asked her 

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what her goals were. 
And I took her to the gym. 

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And the she's, this is a lady 
who's probably never even did 

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APE gym class, right? 
She was, at the time, she was 

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probably in her 40s and she 
wasn't really in bad shape, but,

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you know, a little chubby, 
right? 

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Not, not nothing terrible. 
You know, she didn't look that 

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bad. 
She was kind of pretty, right? 

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She didn't, you know, I didn't 
think she anything was wrong 

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with her far as her body went or
whatever. 

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But, you know, she wanted to get
in better shape. 

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And so because she's never 
worked out, the first workout is

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just showing her how the 
machines work. 

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This is a lat pull down. 
This is the bench press machine.

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This is the PEC deck machine. 
This is the leg press machine. 

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These are the cables. 
You know, you get the idea. 

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So I took her through the 
workout and again, I am not 

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pushing her. 
I'm just teaching her how to use

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the gym. 
The next day she calls me up and

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says she's all upset. 
She sees no difference. 

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You know, I'm basically looting.
I'm a bad trainer. 

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Like somehow, you know, putting 
the responsibility on me for her

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to burn calories. 
You know, I'm the teacher. 

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I teach you. 
You have to do, right? 

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You know what I mean? 
And look, we're saying one 

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workout and one thing of a 
workout. 

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It was more an instruction. 
So again, I'm on the phone. 

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I roll my eyes and I said, OK, 
can I ask you a question? 

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What did you have for breakfast?
In course, as I guessed, egg, 

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pork bun, right. 
And I said, well, first of all, 

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to lose weight, you got to be in
a chloric deficit. 

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I, I didn't want to, I didn't 
want to have this headaches, 

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right? 
This client, even though we'll 

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call him Raymond, the Hong Kong 
guy, you know, he was already a 

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pain in my ass. 
I didn't need a bunch of these. 

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I'm like, listen, you know what 
you should do? 

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I'm just saying because I don't 
want to charge you money and I 

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don't want you to be unhappy. 
Why don't you start doing 

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stretching, start power walking,
start running, you know, just 

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get, just move. 
Learn how to move. 

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Learn how to burn calories. 
When you're back ready for the 

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gym, my door is always open, 
right? 

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So sometimes, you know, again, 
in the personal training, it's 

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managing people's expectations, 
right? 

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And like I said, you know, most 
of my clients, you know, again, 

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it was like I felt like I was 
more of a therapist. 

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The housewives, you know, bitch 
about their husbands. 

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So God, they teach me. 
They learned too way too much. 

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Husbands are not putting out and
this or that. 

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And, and, and I could totally 
understand why some personal 

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trainers really crossed the line
because, you know, these women, 

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especially in my case of the the
housewives, they're very, you 

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know, they're, they feel very 
neglected. 

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Just leave it at that, right? 
And then there's now me, a young

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guy, you know, buffed and some, 
at the time, some people thought

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I was handsome, giving them 
one-on-one attention. 

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And I always didn't want to 
cross that line, but it was 

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like, whoa, like, you know what 
I mean? 

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And, and there was personal 
trainers that were complete 

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savages when it came to that 
kind of stuff, you know, 

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teaching them, you know, Kegel 
Kegel exercises on the 1st gym 

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session or, or, or the sleazebag
male personal trainers. 

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My favorite is the. 
First ones free. 

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Baby. 
And it's just like, you know, 

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it's just a guy just completely 
hitting on her and oh, I'm going

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to stretch you out and teach you
Kegels, right? 

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Which is to me very 
inappropriate. 

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And I don't want to get in shit 
with some woman's husband, 

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right? 
So, you know, there's that. 

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I always maintain being 
professional and managing 

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expectations. 
But you're, you're entering is 

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my point. 
You're entering into what I call

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it like a, a mental mind field 
because when people, many people

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are insecure about their bodies 
and you know, I am too, right? 

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We all are, right? 
We, we all want to look a 

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certain way. 
We all want to present a certain

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way, right? 
Our bodies is our image. 

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And if we don't feel that our 
bodies align with our image, it 

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can be quite dysfunctional. 
And that's how people do crash 

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dieting and and dangerous stuff.
And maybe that's why a lot of 

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males, especially, you know, do 
excessive amounts of steroids to

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the point where, you know what I
mean, they're chasing the drugs 

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or it's, it's, it's, I've seen 
it. 

443
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,240
I really seen it, right. 
So we're, we're getting into the

444
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:32,680
realm of, we're getting in this 
realm of psychological, you 

445
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:37,480
know, image and trauma and. 
It's it's a very. 

446
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,720
Emotional minefield. 
Let's leave it at that. 

447
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,960
So anyways, moving forward, 
right? 

448
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,080
Moving forward, Yeah, I like 
personal training, but I also 

449
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:51,320
hated it as my point because it 
wasn't what I expected to be. 

450
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:56,040
I thought, you know, to boil it 
all down, that these people 

451
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,840
would have. 
You know, maybe. 

452
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:03,120
Even 20% of the enthusiasm that 
I had for working out and then I

453
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,800
would just have to guide them 
and not at times I've been 

454
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,800
saying you're you're a 
psychotherapist. 

455
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,200
The strippers psychotherapy 
bitching about their boyfriends.

456
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,720
I don't only want to play video 
games or how their agents are 

457
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:19,440
treating them or other girls or 
other strippers or God or get in

458
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,680
the middle of their drama 
because they want to say what 

459
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,800
test check said and not check 
said and blah, blah, blah. 

460
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,600
And you know what I mean? 
You, they want you to take their

461
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,800
side for stuff. 
And yeah, it's tough, right? 

462
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,360
You know, it's, it's crazy, you 
know what I mean? 

463
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,200
I like working best with like 
more like professional athletes 

464
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,800
because they're already there. 
You know, a lot of times they 

465
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,040
know what they want and they 
just need you to push in that 

466
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,040
extra 510%. 
Where in lot of my cases with 

467
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:52,600
the clients, I got to do like 
95% of the mental emotional 

468
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,960
work, which can be quite 
exhausting. 

469
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,800
It really is. 
It's very exhausting. 

470
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,440
So anyways, back to Hong Kong 
guy, right? 

471
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,200
So first, you know, I tolerated 
him pretty well. 

472
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,280
He'd buy me shed all the time 
when we went to Hong Kong and, 

473
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,480
you know, shirts and polo shirts
and things like that, dress 

474
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,480
shirts. 
He was moving to a new, fancier,

475
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,720
bigger condo. 
He asked me, Hey, can you help 

476
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,800
me move? 
And I think, oh, how how bad is 

477
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,640
it to help somebody move, right?
I didn't, I didn't know how much

478
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:23,760
shit he had. 
So I'm just thinking he's going 

479
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,440
to have a normal because I knew 
he was, you know, he didn't have

480
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:30,760
any family, didn't have a wife, 
didn't have kids, at least not 

481
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,800
in Canada. 
And so I'm thinking, how much 

482
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:39,000
shit can this guy have? 
Well, Oh my God, this guy lived 

483
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:47,000
on his own in a three bedroom 
large condo that each room was 

484
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:53,200
filled with heavy oak furniture,
marble furniture, like stuff 

485
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,760
like, you know, just just 
everything he had weighed a ton,

486
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,440
you know, bookshelves that were 
made out of marble. 

487
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,720
You know, these big massive oak 
cabinet trees like that had like

488
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:09,240
marble lining and giant enormous
antique mirrors that look like, 

489
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,120
I swear to God, they weighed 
like 300 lbs with antique frames

490
00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:16,120
on him. 
His, his dining room table was 

491
00:28:16,120 --> 00:28:21,360
a, a table of a, a medieval 
castle that was like probably 

492
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:24,720
about 12 inches thick. 
And then the thing was so old it

493
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,320
felt like it was petrified. 
And then of course it had like 

494
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,800
this thick layer of like lacquer
on it, right? 

495
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,720
And it was just like, I swear to
God, that thing probably weighed

496
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,840
like 5-6 hundred pounds, right? 
So everything in his apartment 

497
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:45,320
was super heavy. 
And then he had boxes and boxes 

498
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:51,600
of heavy crystal figurines and 
crystal glasses and like, you 

499
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:57,320
know, hundreds of books of like 
these thick volume coffee table 

500
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,880
books of photos of, of stuff 
like, you know, the guy was 

501
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,720
really rich and he collected 
expensive things that all 

502
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:10,680
weighed hundreds of pounds, you 
know, statues and Buddha statues

503
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,960
and, you know, pillars to put 
stuff on like this, all this 

504
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:19,960
fancy stuff that just every bit 
of it weighed so much. 

505
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,760
And of course, like most 
Vancouver buildings, everything 

506
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,800
is narrow. 
The hallways are narrow. 

507
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,280
And you know where he did hire 
professional movers and he had 

508
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,480
like this big when I arrived in 
the morning, there was like a 

509
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,600
huge semi truck with a huge 
trailer, right? 

510
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,640
Because he had so much crap. 
Like I was in shock. 

511
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,920
Like it was, it was not what I 
expected, not at all. 

512
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,520
So I get there, I think I got 
there about 8:00 in the morning.

513
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:47,640
There was about four 
professional movers. 

514
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,400
It was like a professional 
moving company. 

515
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,280
And they were pissed. 
They were just like, Oh my God, 

516
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,920
right. 
They're having a hard time with 

517
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,760
this stuff. 
They're using trolleys. 

518
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,560
They have blankets to cover 
stuff and it was really hard to 

519
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,480
get the stuff out. 
Like it really was like you, 

520
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,320
you, you move a table like, and 
like I'm saying, it was heavy 

521
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,840
stuff. 
So, so, you know, things didn't 

522
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,800
really fit on trolleys well. 
So we try, you know, you know, 

523
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,400
all of us, we put it on a 
blanket, then drag it and then 

524
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,160
we'd roll it on. 
It's like we're all maneuvering.

525
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,680
Like it was like the only way to
describe it. 

526
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:25,360
I felt like I was like a slave 
back in the Stone Age. 

527
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,160
And I'm just with these other 
workers trying to move these big

528
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,040
massive stones like in but in 
narrow hallways. 

529
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,960
Like I said, he had all these 
tables that had like, you know, 

530
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,160
an inch thick of granite on top.
Like he just seemed to have a 

531
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,280
fetish for anything that weighed
a ton. 

532
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,800
And I'm like, even I was even 
thinking like, how did he get 

533
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,520
all this shit in here? 
Like, and so by noon, the 

534
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,480
workers from the moving company 
quit. 

535
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,120
They're like, fuck this. 
They're like, seriously, like 

536
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,560
fuck, fuck, fuck this. 
They're so frustrated. 

537
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,160
And what doesn't help, he's like
a little nag, like, you know 

538
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,520
what I mean? 
Like, he was smoking cigarettes,

539
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,520
always sipping on coffee and 
nagging at all of us. 

540
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,960
Be careful for the wall. 
Be careful. 

541
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,560
Be careful, right? 
Which there was times where I 

542
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,280
actually thought in my head, 
like, how satisfying it would be

543
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,600
to, you know, punch him in the 
face as hard as possible because

544
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,520
I wasn't expecting this. 
I thought it would just be, you 

545
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:29,560
know, moving is never fun in the
best of times, But I thought, 

546
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,360
you know, I didn't think it 
would be this. 

547
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,960
So the the movers quit. 
They're like. 

548
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,560
Fuck this. 
And they and they, they abort, 

549
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,520
they, they quit, they quit the 
company. 

550
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,000
They, they're like, you know 
what I mean? 

551
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,640
They they were done. 
No way they cuz they couldn't do

552
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:42,840
it. 
They were having trouble and I 

553
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,840
and knew I was helping the best 
I could. 

554
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,320
And it was, it was like just. 
Back. 

555
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,880
Breaking it it honestly, I've 
done some pretty hate labor 

556
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,760
intensive jobs and construction,
rebar, things like that. 

557
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,520
This this was up there with one 
of the hardest. 

558
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,520
Moves of that. 
Time in my life, like just the 

559
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:06,640
sheer number of stuff this guy 
had and how heavy everything was

560
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,800
weighed and trying to maneuver 
it like massive sectional couch 

561
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,520
that you're trying to maneuver 
down a hallway and then down 

562
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,800
another corner into the 
elevator. 

563
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,400
And yeah, it was. 
Brutal. 

564
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,840
So workers quit. 
He's all pissed off. 

565
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,920
He gets on the phone right and 
the company sends some other 

566
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,520
people. 
These guys were pretty senior in

567
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,200
the company. 
They had a lot of experience 

568
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,960
moving. 
They were they were cool. 

569
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,880
So we worked together while this
guy is a smoking cigs nagging at

570
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,040
us and we were all that kind of 
bonded together like oh, fuck 

571
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,440
this guy, right. 
But we got it done. 

572
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,680
We got it done. 
It was hard. 

573
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,240
So I think I, we finished around
like 6-7 and you know, I felt 

574
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:49,800
pretty defeated because you 
know, at the time I was pretty 

575
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,800
strong. 
Like I was really, you know, 

576
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,520
again, I was pretty strong in 
the gym. 

577
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:58,400
I was, I was able to bench like 
405 lbs on, on the flat bench, 

578
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:05,040
315 on an incline, was able to 
do like sets of squats with, you

579
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,720
know, 5 plates, which is about, 
you know, just under £500. 

580
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,120
Like it's like 495. 
You know, if you maybe if you 

581
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,760
had the collars, maybe just 
under £500. 

582
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:18,480
But I used to do that for reps 
and, and this, this move just 

583
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,040
destroyed me. 
And I noticed I started, I was 

584
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:23,400
limping like, you know what I 
mean? 

585
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,240
You get that adrenaline. 
Then as I started cooling down 

586
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,920
like it started, I started 
getting this throbbing pain in 

587
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,360
my lower abdominal area, kind of
where you, your upper thigh and 

588
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,880
your abdominals meet like this 
pain. 

589
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,560
I'm like, oh, I'm going to have 
to go ice that right. 

590
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,760
And into my my shock, you know 
he pays me 200 bucks, the 

591
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,880
training fee. 
So I am just like tired. 

592
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,760
Right, You know what I mean? 
Like, oh, you mother effer, 

593
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:52,920
right? 
Gives me two. 

594
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,640
Yeah. 
It gives me $200 bills. 

595
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,680
I ice my leg next morning. 
I can't move my leg. 

596
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,480
I I, I'm seriously, I can't put 
any weight on it. 

597
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,520
You know what I mean? 
I'm like, oh, this is fucked, 

598
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,000
right? 
So I hobble. 

599
00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,080
I live downtown. 
I hobbled to Saint Paul's 

600
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,199
Hospital. 
The doctor looks at it, sends me

601
00:34:17,199 --> 00:34:20,000
to an ultrasound appointment in 
the hospital, right. 

602
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,560
Back then, at least I didn't 
have to wait 20 hours in the 

603
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,960
emergency room. 
I was seen by a doctor pretty 

604
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,920
fast. 
You know, their medical system 

605
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,960
was still good back then, and 
they had me set up and just go 

606
00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,320
see an ultrasound up. 
You know, of course, they now 

607
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,520
I'm in a wheelchair, right? 
They wheeled me up. 

608
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:41,000
This doctor, Oh my Lord, he, he,
he, he seemed to be a little bit

609
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:44,840
enjoying this examination, like 
with the ultrasound, the Jelly, 

610
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,400
rubbing the Jelly all over my 
stomach and a little bit, a 

611
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,719
little bit too close to my groin
like, and, and being kind of 

612
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,320
accepted, like I, I'll be 
straight up. 

613
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,760
I felt molested by this guy. 
I'm even looking at the nurse. 

614
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,440
The nurse is looking at me. 
We're, we have eye contact the 

615
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,880
whole time that she's just like 
kind of in shock. 

616
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:02,560
What was going on? 
And and you know, again, I'm in 

617
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,040
this like fucking pain, like it 
was like throbbing, burning 

618
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,640
pain, right? 
So I can't really react, if that

619
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,360
makes sense. 
If I watch this happen to my 

620
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,040
son, I probably would have 
punched the doctor out, right? 

621
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,320
So pretty gross, pretty creepy, 
right? 

622
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,560
But whatever, I didn't complain.
I didn't whatever. 

623
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,080
I'm just because I'm just so at 
this point numb. 

624
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,760
I'm numb because now I got to 
cancel all of my clients because

625
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,840
I can't go in the gym. 
I can't even put weight on this 

626
00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,720
foot. 
I can't go to the gym myself. 

627
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,000
So that's how I got paid. 
I didn't get paid. 

628
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,600
If you didn't come to the gym 
with me, I didn't make money, 

629
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,760
right? 
So I'm pissed, this fucking 

630
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:45,120
shitty move, moving all the 
shitty stuff and now I'm fucked.

631
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,120
And the doctor said the most 
dreaded words. 

632
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,160
He goes, I have to send you a 
specialist that you have to go 

633
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,520
see a surgeon and the surgeon's 
going to decide if he if he's if

634
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,920
he needs surgery or not. 
So that's not an appointment 

635
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,440
that you get right away right 
now, especially in Canada, you 

636
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:02,160
got to wait for that. 
That was going to be a couple 

637
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,960
months, right? 
So in the meantime, he said, 

638
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,240
I'll write you painkiller 
prescriptions. 

639
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:15,080
And I said no weight on it. 
And now I had to use a walking 

640
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,480
stick, you know what I mean? 
A cane because I can't put 

641
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,400
weight on it. 
I couldn't put any weight on it.

642
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,960
Plus it's in that area. 
What I like your stabilizer 

643
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,120
muscles, right? 
You know what I mean? 

644
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:28,240
So you move this way, move that 
way, sharp pain, blinding hot, 

645
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:31,560
you know, like a it felt like 
the way to describe it, it felt 

646
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:36,560
like someone heated up like a 
knife and then like with a torch

647
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,680
until that tip of that knife is 
like red hot and then stuck it 

648
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,440
right into my, you know, right 
in the abdomen. 

649
00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:46,280
So pain, right. 
So I'm at home. 

650
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,760
I did the first prescription, 
but the problem is with 

651
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,080
painkillers, they work so well 
now you don't feel anything. 

652
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:58,720
And I was afraid that, you know,
it was in such a vulnerable 

653
00:36:58,720 --> 00:37:00,160
area. 
You know what I mean? 

654
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,200
You can't feel if you're re 
injuring it. 

655
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:08,000
So yeah, all of my clients are 
now cancelled, right? 

656
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,480
Cancelled to further notice, 
right? 

657
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:15,400
I am beyond pest like just, you 
know, wasn't expecting to get 

658
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,760
like a catastrophic injury. 
And this guy didn't even give a 

659
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:19,880
fuck. 
I called and told him what 

660
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,720
happened. 
He's just like, oh, oh, oh, oh, 

661
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:27,120
oh, right. 
Oh, I got oh, and then he's just

662
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,360
like, oh, I guess you won't be 
able to train me for a while. 

663
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,880
And I'm just like, oh God, if I 
see this guy, I'm going to kill 

664
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,400
him, right? 
I'm not like I'm beyond pissed 

665
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:36,440
off. 
Like didn't give a shit 

666
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,120
basically. 
Oh yeah, I forgot too. 

667
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,480
Yeah, before I left. 
Yeah, this is the other thing. 

668
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,160
So before I left that night, 
like, I'm so like, I was already

669
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,800
pissed off at him because of 
the, I felt like a little Oh 

670
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,400
yeah, after moving all that 
heavy shit, he wanted me to 

671
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,520
clean his oven. 
I was like, Nope, not cleaning 

672
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,800
your oven, dude. 
I gotta go. 

673
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,200
Yeah, so he want me to clean his
oven too. 

674
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,440
So I was the, I was like, yeah, 
fuck this guy. 

675
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,880
And then then no shits given. 
And then he calls me and says, 

676
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,800
oh, oh, I need you to come and 
paint my apartment because all 

677
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,520
the scruff marks, all the scruff
Marks and he was trying to 

678
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:14,920
actually blame it on me, right? 
So in my injured state, he calls

679
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,560
me up and says, oh, can you come
and paint my apartment? 

680
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,000
I'm like, I can't paint your 
apartment. 

681
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,120
And then he was trying some 
manipulative shit. 

682
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,000
See, back then, you know, I just
thought I didn't really 

683
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,880
understand narcissism. 
I didn't really get that that 

684
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,280
wasn't a big thing. 
We just called you an asshole. 

685
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,760
You know, he's an asshole, 
right? 

686
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,120
But now I understand narcissism.
Like I had experienced it so 

687
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,520
much so this guy was a absolute 
narcissist. 

688
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,560
So he's. 
Trying to manipulate me and 

689
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,200
guilt trip me to come. 
Paint his apartment because it's

690
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,560
my fault and the movers fault 
for causing all this damage. 

691
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,280
And now the people that want to 
take control of it, they're all 

692
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,000
mad because all the scruff Marks
and blah, blah, blah, blah. 

693
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,760
And I'm like, and then I had I 
said, OK, I have a friend that I

694
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,160
do painting with because he knew
it. 

695
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:01,040
He also knew I did painting too 
because me and Kevin at this 

696
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,440
time we did painting. 
So I said I'm going to send my 

697
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:06,560
friend Kevin over there and I 
told Kevin what happened and 

698
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,400
Kevin's just passed too right, 
right. 

699
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,280
And I said, Kevin, you know, do 
what you got to do, Get every 

700
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:14,720
fucking cent out of this guy. 
This guy's a mother fucker. 

701
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:20,320
So at first he only wanted to 
pay Kevin $800 to paint 3 rooms 

702
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,000
and a pet. 
You know, we're talking like a 

703
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,840
living room, the kitchen, you 
know, bathrooms. 

704
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,840
I think he had two or three 
bathrooms and three bedrooms, 

705
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:29,920
right? 
It was a big apartment, you know

706
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:34,200
big place and like it had two 
balconies like it was quite big.

707
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,640
So originally wanted to do 800 
bucks. 

708
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,400
Kevin's like fuck it not doing 
it go find someone else and it 

709
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,560
would have been a lot more than 
800 bucks. 

710
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,640
So anyways ended up settling for
like 1800. 

711
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Kevin was cool enough, gave me 
300 bucks out of it and and the 

712
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:55,720
whole time Kevin told me that he
could try to talk to him and 

713
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:58,640
Kevin would be like listening to
heavy metal listening to Slayer 

714
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,320
and he would just take off his 
headphones as if the scowly 

715
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,760
face. 
What what? 

716
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,920
So the guy got really 
intimidated by him, like because

717
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,960
the guy was annoying. 
Like he would sit there and oh, 

718
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,080
how about there? 
What about there? 

719
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,280
Like what about that spot, blah,
blah, blah, blah, like just just

720
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,280
like pick, like fucking be big. 
That's what he was doing to us 

721
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:16,880
when we're moving right? 
That's just like fucking 

722
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,320
hovering, breathing down your 
neck. 

723
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,920
And I remember I remember one of
the movers like we took a little

724
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,600
like this is back to the move 
we. 

725
00:40:23,720 --> 00:40:25,680
Move something. 
We finally got it in the 

726
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:30,160
elevator and got it off the 
elevator like it was, it was. 

727
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,800
Oh I remember he had this 
leather couch that weighed like 

728
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,800
it felt like it weighed like 
£5000 because it had one of 

729
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,400
those iron height of beds in it.
It was so. 

730
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:42,720
Goddamn heavy. 
So me and this dude, we finally 

731
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,200
got and and what would be worse 
when when we were trying to 

732
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:50,640
maneuver it, the the the height 
of bed would would uncollapse 

733
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,000
out. 
Oh, it was just and the whole 

734
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:58,200
time this guy is this like yap 
yap yap yap yap yap in her ears.

735
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,760
And then even the mover like 
this is the the second mover. 

736
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:04,280
He goes oh dude, he looks at me 
and goes I wanted to grab him by

737
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:07,600
the head so bad and just smash 
it in the wall. 

738
00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:10,360
Those older movers like that 
came in the in the second one, 

739
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,440
they said he was by far the 
worst client. 

740
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,960
And that was one of the most 
challenging moves that they've 

741
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,640
ever done. 
And this guy was, you know, he's

742
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,880
been moving, moving for God, 
like 10-15 years. 

743
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,800
So anyways, yeah, so try to 
manipulate me to compete. 

744
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,760
You know, you didn't give a fuck
what happened, right? 

745
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,640
So I'm just like, yeah, this 
guy, this motherfucker, right? 

746
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,240
So now, you know, I'm injured, 
can't work. 

747
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Money is drying up and I'm in a 
lot of pain so I go through the 

748
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,000
1st bottle of prescriptions and 
I didn't renew it. 

749
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,200
So now I'm just on Advil and you
know, stuff you can buy at the 

750
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,200
drug store. 
And I'm walking around in a 

751
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,200
cane. 
I try to walk as best I can. 

752
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,440
I try to move around but I'm 
kind of couch locked, right? 

753
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,480
I'm kind of like, you know, I 
can't really do anything. 

754
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,240
That's it was, it was like one 
of the shittiest injuries I had.

755
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,040
I've had some bad ones, but it 
was up there because, you know, 

756
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,520
you literally can watch TV, 
right? 

757
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,920
That's it. 
Now money's drying up. 

758
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,160
You know, I'm fucked, right? 
I'm seriously, I'm fucked. 

759
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,920
And then because I was like, you
know, in my own business, right?

760
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,000
I, I could get EI, no, no EI for
me. 

761
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,520
And, you know, it was probably, 
it was a private contractor. 

762
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:30,320
So, you know, I, I, you know, 
we're now about two months in 

763
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:33,280
and haven't worked for two 
months. 

764
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:36,000
Rents coming up. 
You know, it's starting to get 

765
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:39,280
scary, right? 
In a bad space, in a bad 

766
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,600
headspace, you know what I mean?
Can't go out, can't do anything 

767
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,560
I can't do. 
I'm, you know, I'm feel like I'm

768
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,280
just homebound watching TV, 
right? 

769
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,320
I'm reading books. 
I'm trying to keep in a good 

770
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,800
headspace. 
You know, I'm pretty miserable. 

771
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:58,560
So I bite the bullet, I take my 
cane and I hobble down to the 

772
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,800
welfare office to get on 
welfare. 

773
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:05,800
I get in there, never done this 
before, go up to the counter and

774
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:09,240
I remember I have, I have, I 
have a note that says I can't 

775
00:43:09,240 --> 00:43:12,520
work. 
I have to the the the process of

776
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:17,560
waiting to see a surgeon show 
the person behind the counter. 

777
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:23,560
And this woman is the second 
worst woman I've ever talked to 

778
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,240
the site. 
The worst woman is going to get 

779
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:27,440
is going to come up. 
And this woman was just a 

780
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,240
complete fucking bitch. 
She just looked at me to start 

781
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:33,040
scowling. 
Just use like this voice like 

782
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:37,960
you're a piece of shit. 
This is very just like, like I 

783
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,920
was just scum and just this is 
kind of threw the note back at 

784
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:44,720
me. 
She goes, yeah, you're going to 

785
00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:45,960
have to go to a training 
session. 

786
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,040
I go, what do you mean I have to
go for a training session? 

787
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:52,040
She goes, yeah, she goes to get 
on welfare, you have to go 

788
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,920
through a mandatory training 
session for two days, then you 

789
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,120
can apply. 
And I'm like, OK, but my note 

790
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,200
says I can't work. 
Doesn't. 

791
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,920
Matter. 
Did you hear what I said? 

792
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,320
Just being a total bitch and 
this and getting mad and 

793
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,640
pounding her fist. 
Like it was just so dramatic. 

794
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,760
I was like almost looking around
like am I on camera or 

795
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,200
something? 
Like this doesn't make any 

796
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,200
sense. 
That walk in. 

797
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,160
I'm being played. 
I'm using proper, you know, 

798
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,160
polite speech. 
I'm not presenting as a threat. 

799
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:24,360
And she's like talking to me 
like I'm some scumbag that's 

800
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,320
been avoiding her and I owe her 
all this money like that kind of

801
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,880
like this, just like I'm like 
I'm some St. piece of shit, you 

802
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,280
know, I'm you know what I mean? 
And so I'm kind of really taken 

803
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,680
aback by it. 
I'm just kind of staring awkward

804
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,600
goes and then she's just looking
at me like, do you want anything

805
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,960
else to say? 
Because it's just kind of like, 

806
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,960
you know, a little overwhelming,
right? 

807
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:49,160
And then she just she makes this
sound and then she had some book

808
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:53,600
in her hand or I guess like some
like a binder and she just slams

809
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,880
the fucking binder on the table 
and stomps off back into some 

810
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,440
office. 
So I'm just like, OK, wow, what 

811
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:03,080
a bitch. 
So anyways, go to the 

812
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:07,320
appointment, the for the 
training session and you know, 

813
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,480
arrive with all these other 
miserable people. 

814
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,680
We're all miserable, right? 
We just look, I don't know, 

815
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:15,800
everyone is misery personified, 
You know, pouring rainy 

816
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,880
Vancouver day, right? 
I, you know, now I'm getting, 

817
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,880
you know, as I said, this is 
getting not fun. 

818
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,280
It's ending like, you know, 
month in and out, like we're in 

819
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:26,800
the two mark past the two-month 
mark. 

820
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,160
You know what I mean? 
Money is really starting to 

821
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:32,600
fucking be gone. 
And you know, I'm, I'm worried. 

822
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,520
I'm genuinely starting to get 
stressed out by the situation. 

823
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,920
I'm in a lot of pain, right? 
And I'm, you know, I'm waiting 

824
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:43,080
for the specialist appointment. 
So again, show them the notes to

825
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,840
explain what happened. 
This guy was actually nice. 

826
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,880
He who ran the train, he was 
actually pretty nice. 

827
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,280
He was respectful. 
And he says, well, since you 

828
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,840
have a valid reason of why you 
can't work, you only have to 

829
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,080
come for this one day. 
And the one day it just tells 

830
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:00,000
you about how welfare works. 
And you had to sit around watch 

831
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,920
these horrible like info 
commercial with these two dip 

832
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:06,520
shits that explain the whole 
welfare system. 

833
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:08,560
Yeah, it was, you know, pretty 
miserable. 

834
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,520
And the guy said, yeah, you 
don't have to come back the next

835
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:11,560
day. 
He told me that don't have to 

836
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:14,680
come back the next day. 
I can set you up an appointment,

837
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:16,680
right. 
He sets me up with the time to 

838
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,600
get this caseworker to get on 
fucking lovely welfare. 

839
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,000
And this I asked you, you know, 
this was like a fucking low 

840
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,160
moment. 
Like I remember, you know, 

841
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,520
especially in E van, we didn't 
look at people on welfare very 

842
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:31,320
high, right. 
Like, I remember when I was a 

843
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:33,960
teenager, I was working on this 
construction site and it was 

844
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,440
actually near a welfare office. 
And it was like a welfare 

845
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Wednesday. 
We see all these really nice 

846
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:43,000
cars and Cadillacs and Mercedes.
And these people would come out 

847
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,200
of the car, mess their hair up 
and wearing shitty outfits, you 

848
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,440
know, coming out with their 
checks. 

849
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,000
So we always felt like people, a
lot of people gain the system, 

850
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,080
you know what I mean? 
Like it just, we always look 

851
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,720
down upon it. 
So now here I am, one of those 

852
00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:00,600
people now in these lineups and 
hanging out with the same type 

853
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,240
of people. 
Like I said, everyone in that 

854
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,960
office, every one of us, like we
were just beyond miserable. 

855
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,400
Like right, life has just kicked
us all in the nut sack, right? 

856
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:14,080
That's how it felt like. 
So he said I didn't have to do 

857
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:18,000
the second right. 
And this appointment is not for 

858
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,360
two weeks away. 
So now I'm now heading into the 

859
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,840
three month mark, right? 
Three months. 

860
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,160
I'm like, oh, this socks, right,
this socks. 

861
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,600
So anyways, two weeks goes by, 
right? 

862
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,400
Go to my appointments first 
thing in the morning. 

863
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,680
Get to I get I walk in the 
office. 

864
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:42,520
The worst, shittiest bitch I've 
ever met in my life is now 

865
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,440
behind the counter. 
She's like middle age boomer 

866
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:50,680
kind of Husky and she has this 
deep baritone voice and she says

867
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,840
my name more. 
That's what it sounds like. 

868
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:55,680
And I'm like, yes, she goes. 
I can't. 

869
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,280
Talk. 
To you I'm like, why? 

870
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,240
Why can't you talk to me? 
You didn't do your. 

871
00:47:59,240 --> 00:48:01,440
Second session I go, what are 
you talking about? 

872
00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:04,120
I show her the note again. 
I still have the note. 

873
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,240
I tell that guy said. 
I didn't have to come back 

874
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:07,440
today. 
And she goes. 

875
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,760
You didn't do your second she. 
Starts repeating herself and I'm

876
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,720
just kind of like now taken 
aback like waiting 2 fucking 

877
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:15,920
weeks to see this bitch and now 
she's yelling at me because I 

878
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:18,520
didn't do the second session. 
So I just feel completely set 

879
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:19,720
up. 
I'm like what the hell? 

880
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,720
And I'm trying to say well why 
don't you call down there? 

881
00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:22,800
I'm not calling. 
Anyone. 

882
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,600
Are you finished? 
Are you done? 

883
00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:27,920
Look, she's screaming at me. 
Just this like, like just like. 

884
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,920
I've never had anyone in any 
situation. 

885
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,440
This again, Remember, this is a 
taxpayer employee. 

886
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,920
Talking to me like I'm garbage 
right? 

887
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:40,920
And I'm just like I just 
couldn't handle it. 

888
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:46,360
So from the trauma of fucking 
losing all my clients, hobbling 

889
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:51,240
around with a cane, you know, 
being feel like I've got fucked 

890
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:55,040
over by this client. 
I sat down in the wait room. 

891
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,760
I just start fucking bawling, 
bawled my fucking eyes out and 

892
00:48:59,960 --> 00:49:02,080
this other lady finally was kind
of nice to me. 

893
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,760
Started talking about she seemed
really upset at the other woman 

894
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,480
and like I was a hysterical like
I couldn't, I couldn't, I 

895
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,360
couldn't take it anymore. 
Just like, and I'm thinking in 

896
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,720
that moment, I go, that bitch 
has some notches on her belt. 

897
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:18,680
She likes doing this there. 
I could totally understand why 

898
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:23,160
people even worse off with me 
would have to face her and she'd

899
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,680
find some bullshit reason to 
completely fucking utterly 

900
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,160
destroy him. 
And they're going to go out and 

901
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,560
fucking overdose on drugs or 
commit suicide because you're 

902
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,640
already at the lowest moment of 
your life. 

903
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:39,120
And now you have this fucking 
monster that gets a taxpayer 

904
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,480
check to kind of push them over 
the edge. 

905
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,240
And I even said to her, I said, 
I go, yeah, I bet you have some 

906
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:46,880
notches. 
And I don't know what you mean 

907
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,080
by that. 
She was just like just just, 

908
00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:53,160
I've never ever experienced 
anything like this in my life 

909
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:54,280
ever. 
Right? 

910
00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,320
Honestly, if this was a dude, I 
probably would have went to 

911
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,640
jail. 
If it was a guy, I probably 

912
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,560
would have beat the fucking shit
out of this guy because the 

913
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:07,480
utter disrespect, the 
dehumanized right, It was beyond

914
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,880
anything I experienced. 
And like I said, the other lady 

915
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,640
was kind of she came out, talked
to me and you know, Tris Oh no. 

916
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,640
And she and she didn't really 
quite understand. 

917
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:19,280
She was kind of confused. 
And I said this guy said because

918
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,080
and I showed him a note. 
I'm not, you know, I had a valid

919
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,200
reason, right? 
So then I just realized, you 

920
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,480
know what, fuck welfare. 
I am not doing this shit. 

921
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,880
Fuck you. 
All right, and I walk out of the

922
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,600
office felt I felt lower like 
then then slime. 

923
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:37,480
I felt like I fucking had to 
ooze my way. 

924
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,560
And while I'm hobbling down the 
street with this cane, get home,

925
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,200
right, have a hot bath, feel 
make myself feel better. 

926
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,680
And and then I said, you know 
what, fuck this. 

927
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,240
I get a newspaper. 
I apply for a bunch of 

928
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,920
telemarketing jobs. 
Got easy. 

929
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:55,800
I already had some sales 
experience. 

930
00:50:56,120 --> 00:51:00,080
I'm pissed off, I'm hungry and 
they hired me right away. 

931
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,440
I think, I think it was selling 
like Vancouver Sun newspaper 

932
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,560
options, you know what I mean? 
I was able to work at night time

933
00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:09,560
because I was now complete night
owl. 

934
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,440
I just killed it. 
I just, you know, as I said, I 

935
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,960
said, well, I guess I'm going 
back into sales because I won't 

936
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,560
be personal training for a 
while. 

937
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,920
I can't even work out myself. 
You know, I went in there, I was

938
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,080
able to sell, you know, I was 
good, I was hungry, I was pissed

939
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,800
off right away, one of the top 
performers. 

940
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,960
So that right away got my 
started feeling better about 

941
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,840
myself, started gaining some 
self worth. 

942
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:35,800
I'm not just a slimy scum 
according to this woman at the 

943
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,320
welfare office, right? 
Like I said, that woman had no 

944
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,600
business working with people in 
the public like she was beyond 

945
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:47,520
anything I've ever experienced 
in my life, like the the, the 

946
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,400
ability to talk to someone like 
that. 

947
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:52,920
She's lucky that she hasn't done
it to the wrong person yet, 

948
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,640
because like I said. 
Her gender was the only thing 

949
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,560
that protected her. 
And I'm going to be straight up 

950
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,440
with that. 
I've never, ever had anyone 

951
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,720
treat me like I wasn't worth 
anything, right? 

952
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:06,200
Just Pierce. 
Scumbag. 

953
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,880
I was just thinking, did I look 
like an old husband or 

954
00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:11,040
something? 
This was your big victory, You 

955
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,600
know what I mean? 
So anyway, it's kind of funny, 

956
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,000
but a month into the job and 
this, because I was doing so 

957
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,920
well, Yeah, you know, I got 
promoted and I'm already in a 

958
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,240
month. 
I'm already like helping 

959
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:24,760
training other people and you 
know what I mean? 

960
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,280
And about a month in the job, I 
get a call and it's a it's a 

961
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,480
caseworker. 
And she's like, she's wondering 

962
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,120
why I never followed up with my 
appointment. 

963
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,760
And I'm just like, I'm calm. 
I'm like, really? 

964
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,520
Are you, are you kidding me? 
They go, do you, do you 

965
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,000
understand what happened in that
office? 

966
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:46,920
I go, if I was at any lower and 
emotional point, I probably 

967
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,680
would have committed suicide 
having been treated like that. 

968
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,680
And she's like, oh, just just 
just just like another just 

969
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:59,320
complete shithead. 
Oh, well, yeah, we were just 

970
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,680
wondering why you never came 
back like you like, is that a 

971
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:06,040
serious question? 
Like, are you being serious 

972
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,200
about that? 
I go and I said I'll go. 

973
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,800
Why do you do this job? 
Is it just for the paycheck? 

974
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,440
Oh, well, we just some bullshit 
answer. 

975
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,480
I go, you know, I don't need 
your services. 

976
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:18,680
I will never need your services,
Right? 

977
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:19,200
I go. 
I go. 

978
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,160
That woman you work with that 
spoke to me, she is a horrible 

979
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,480
human being. 
She is a monster. 

980
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,880
She's a serial killer in a way, 
because she destroys people 

981
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,120
emotionally. 
And then she sucks out all the 

982
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:35,080
hope out of them that they feel 
that the world is so cruel that 

983
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:38,320
the therefore their lives are no
longer worth living. 

984
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,040
If I was any weaker, I probably 
would have succumbed to her 

985
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,560
monsterness. 
She should not be doing her job.

986
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:47,840
OK, well, if we could help you, 
if anyway, please let us know. 

987
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,640
And I was just like, fuck you. 
I am not usually this hostile. 

988
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:57,760
But when someone's so numb and 
so indifferent and just hide 

989
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,720
behind policies and, you know, 
they have a nice little 

990
00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:04,800
comfortable job, they're checked
out. 

991
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,920
They lost it. 
They're they're no longer on 

992
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,800
Team Humanity anymore, 
regardless of their little title

993
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,360
or whatever they call themselves
or whatever, whatever rationale 

994
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:17,960
they give themselves. 
You know, there's a lot of 

995
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:21,920
shitty people like this that 
you'll come across. 

996
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:25,040
And this is kind of the the 
meaning of this, this talk. 

997
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:29,800
So I'm now the telemarketing 
king, right? 

998
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,400
And then, you know, money is not
good, but it's better than 

999
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,040
welfare. 
Like, you know, I've already had

1000
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,320
some experience doing some 
broker working for brokers and 

1001
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,720
things like that. 
And to give you perspective, 

1002
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:47,000
what I would make in a two week 
paycheck is what I would make 

1003
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:49,960
sometimes it a single day. 
But you know what? 

1004
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:51,920
It's about getting my pride 
back. 

1005
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,800
It's about gaining my 
confidence. 

1006
00:54:53,800 --> 00:54:56,040
It's it's about being good at 
something. 

1007
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,080
It's it's it's about someone 
saying you can't. 

1008
00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,280
And I'm saying big middle finger
I can. 

1009
00:55:03,240 --> 00:55:06,280
Right, that's that. 
Sometimes that's all you have. 

1010
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,160
Just like back in the East fan 
days, you everyone looked down 

1011
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,280
at us. 
We're from East Fan, right? 

1012
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,680
But we had our pride because we 
had each other's. 

1013
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,120
Backs right, They couldn't take 
that away from us. 

1014
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,240
They can look down at us, they 
could spit at us. 

1015
00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:23,200
Like like when I, when my mom 
would send me to this fancy 

1016
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,960
summer camp and I went to one of
my friends houses because he'd 

1017
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:31,360
get like, you know, we, I was 
working at the camp, right? 

1018
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,960
This is when I was working at 
the camp as a camp counselor. 

1019
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,440
And we'd get. 
Days off and so on the days off 

1020
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:39,160
we'd go party Hardy and 
sometimes we'd go to one of the 

1021
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:43,160
my Co workers house, right, And 
they lived in the fancy part of 

1022
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:46,960
West Vancouver and the kid was 
like, Hey, mom, you know, Mark's

1023
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,200
from East fan and she looked at 
me like I was like the weirdest 

1024
00:55:50,200 --> 00:55:53,560
curiosity, which I didn't like, 
but I was just polite. 

1025
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:56,320
You know, my mom raised me to be
polite, you know what I mean? 

1026
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,520
And you know, these people 
weren't like filthy rich. 

1027
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:00,280
You know, they were you know, 
they were comfortable. 

1028
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,680
You know, they're not saying 
anything against it, you know, 

1029
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,720
and in all honestly, my mom's 
side of the family were probably

1030
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:08,760
10 times richer than them. 
But because they hear E fan 

1031
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,680
right away, judgement judgement.
Right. 

1032
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,480
Mark lives in E Van and she's 
like, oh wow, like you know what

1033
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,280
I mean? 
Like I'm from the Compton, the 

1034
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:22,000
ghetto or you know what I mean? 
Grab her purse, you know, take 

1035
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,520
it with her when she leaves her 
room and I'm just. 

1036
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,960
Like, oh God, wow, wow. 
Right. 

1037
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:29,320
You know, you get what I'm 
saying? 

1038
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:33,400
So finally see the doctor, he 
decides it's healing pretty 

1039
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:35,440
good. 
He's not going to do surgery. 

1040
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:40,520
Just keep what I'm doing, stay 
off it, rehab it when it feels 

1041
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:41,320
stronger. 
I could. 

1042
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:46,320
I'd start doing light workouts. 
Still had to rely on the cane to

1043
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,880
walk. 
Slowly getting better now, about

1044
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,960
the five month mark after the 
injury. 

1045
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:57,560
Back in the gym. 
I could do light leg presses. 

1046
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:02,680
I could do the stationary bike. 
I could do some moderate 

1047
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,200
exercise. 
Right. 

1048
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:06,240
Getting a little bit better, 
getting stronger. 

1049
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:08,640
I get a phone call. 
Raymond. 

1050
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,840
Oh, how are you? 
I'm great. 

1051
00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,320
I'm awesome. 
He's like, are you able to 

1052
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,960
personal train? 
I go, maybe I'm just at this 

1053
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,280
point I'm like, if I'm gonna 
train this guy, it's double like

1054
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:27,120
fuck, it's fucking $400.00. 
Take it or leave it. 

1055
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,640
I don't give a fuck, right? 
He goes, well, why don't you? 

1056
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,480
We'll go for dinner. 
We could talk about it. 

1057
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,000
It'll be good to see you and 
blah, blah, blah. 

1058
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,840
He's all brown, nosy, right? 
And I'm just being kind of like,

1059
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,920
indifferent to him, like, 
whatever. 

1060
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:41,840
Yeah, but I didn't give him the 
price yet. 

1061
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,000
But I'm just gonna say, yeah, 
400 fucking bucks. 

1062
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:46,120
Take it or leave it. 
I don't care. 

1063
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,840
And so we meet somewhere, I 
think it was a nice restaurant 

1064
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:50,960
on Robson St. 
It was called Ziffirelli's. 

1065
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,600
It's still there. 
It's a good Italian place. 

1066
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,160
I said I'm pissed at this guy. 
This guy cost me almost like 

1067
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,040
like, jeez, we're we're in the 
five mark, the five month mark, 

1068
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:05,000
no clients real time. 
So conservatively, right. 

1069
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,160
You know, we're talking like 
with my other clients and stuff 

1070
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:13,360
because of this guy's bullshit. 
And then this move, not only the

1071
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,360
humiliation that I had to go 
through, but the loss of 

1072
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,920
clients. 
You know, we're God easy 25 

1073
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:26,880
thirty, $40,000, right? 
And lost revenue because of 

1074
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:30,200
this, this shit bird. 
So I'm mad, right? 

1075
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:33,600
I'm but I'm hiding. 
I'm not overtly hot head mode 

1076
00:58:33,600 --> 00:58:35,680
yet. 
And I go for dinner. 

1077
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:39,320
I order super expensive stuff. 
He's there with these two 

1078
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:43,080
friends from Hong Kong and then 
he's with these other two people

1079
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,400
and you know, they're all rich 
and Rolex watches and designer 

1080
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:50,880
clothes and talking about going 
to this place and that place and

1081
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:56,040
traveling there and Singapore 
and 1st class this and 1st class

1082
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:57,840
that. 
And it's just like kind of 

1083
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:00,320
nauseating because especially 
what I've been through, you 

1084
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:03,080
know, I'm just like, whatever. 
So I'm just like I I get the 

1085
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,560
Scotch menu. 
I'm ordering the most expensive 

1086
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:11,400
Scotch, the leg oven 16. 
I'm just ordering double S and 

1087
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,120
then as fast as a as a waiter 
can bring them to the table. 

1088
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,600
I'm just like, yo, keep them 
going. 

1089
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,480
And he's kind of looking at me 
side eyes and I'm just almost 

1090
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,760
with my facial expression like. 
What? 

1091
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:23,000
Like, yeah, you know what I 
mean? 

1092
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,840
Like, got a problem, right? 
You'll Yeah. 

1093
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:30,160
You've cost me a lot of money 
with your bullshit and not even 

1094
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,760
cared, like didn't even fucking 
care and then wanted me to paint

1095
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:34,640
after. 
Right? 

1096
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,800
So you know, we have the dinner.
We didn't talk, bring up 

1097
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:42,600
personal training stuff. 
He was too busy yapping with his

1098
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,880
friends and things like that. 
I didn't even really understand 

1099
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,480
why you've invited me to this 
dinner. 

1100
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,200
And you know, I feel totally out
of place. 

1101
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,880
They're all talking amongst 
themselves. 

1102
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:54,360
I'm just sitting there, just sit
basically at the table just 

1103
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:58,800
drinking, you know, just 
drinking at the as as much as I 

1104
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:03,000
could get down my gullet. 
And I already, I had a date 

1105
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,880
lined up across the street at 
Milestones. 

1106
01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:09,640
This is because it was on Robson
St. and everyone's finished 

1107
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:13,480
eating gets up and he has this 
big package beside them. 

1108
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:16,720
And then he pulls out this like 
packaging string. 

1109
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,280
I didn't even know where the 
hell he got the packaging string

1110
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,680
from. 
And he starts tying it around 

1111
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,440
the package and he starts making
this kind of makeshift handle, 

1112
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,240
right? 
And it's like a big heavy 

1113
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:29,680
package. 
We're talking like the thing was

1114
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:34,760
at least like this, like a three
foot long box. 

1115
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,760
Like it was like a big giant 
box. 

1116
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,680
And it's wrapped up like kind of
in brown packaging paper. 

1117
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,720
And like I said, he's tying the 
string around it like a like a 

1118
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,120
twine and like wrapping it 
around like, you know, packing 

1119
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,640
twine, wrapping it around it a 
whole bunch of time. 

1120
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:51,840
And then he's making this handle
and then he hands me it and I'm 

1121
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,040
just like, Oh, is this for me? 
Like thinking, Oh, he got me 

1122
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,000
something. 
Maybe he feels bad about the, 

1123
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,960
the, the injury and stuff. 
And he's like this totally point

1124
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,000
blank goes, no, carry it to my 
car. 

1125
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,120
And I just stop for a minute and
I look at the other people and 

1126
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,640
they kind of look at me, you 
know, they're all looking blank 

1127
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,320
in the face. 
I'm like, no, I'm not carrying 

1128
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:12,240
it. 
Like I was just totally calm, 

1129
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,200
super passive aggressive. 
I'm like, no, I'm, I'm not 

1130
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,240
carrying that. 
You're going to have to carry it

1131
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:19,200
yourself. 
Sorry, not carrying it. 

1132
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,320
And then he tries again. 
Like he actually tried again, 

1133
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:24,600
like he actually had the balls. 
No, no, no. 

1134
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,480
Please, please, he said. 
Please, please, please, please 

1135
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:28,680
carry. 
I'm like enough. 

1136
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:30,840
And I just looked at him. 
I go, I'm not carrying your 

1137
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,720
fucking package. 
It's not going to happen. 

1138
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:38,040
Right, especially after all that
bullshit and I just started 

1139
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,160
walking, walked out, never 
talked to him ever again. 

1140
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,960
Like you son of a bitch, like 
you know what I mean. 

1141
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,880
You invited me to carry some 
heavy. 

1142
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:49,240
You went shopping. 
This is how I, you know, I what 

1143
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,000
I deducted. 
He went shopping with his hit 

1144
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:56,280
with his dipshit rich friends 
had probably bought too much 

1145
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,960
because he was a bit of like a 
pack rat, you know, compulsive 

1146
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:02,880
spender and then called me to, 
to come have dinner to carry it 

1147
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,600
because he didn't want to carry.
It was too heavy. 

1148
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,880
So, so I, I, I walked out and 
then I'm across the street and I

1149
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,960
see him harshly struggling with 
this fucking package, right. 

1150
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:14,840
I was like, you know what I 
mean? 

1151
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:16,680
Like, so that was the end of 
fucking Raymond. 

1152
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,880
He would call me once in a while
and I would just be like super 

1153
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:22,840
rude to him. 
This one word answers, he'd get 

1154
01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:24,040
a what? 
What? 

1155
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,800
Right. 
And then you'd be like, oh, you 

1156
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:27,880
want a personal train? 
And I think I said, oh, yeah, 

1157
01:02:27,880 --> 01:02:30,360
it's 600 bucks. 
Oh, can you go lower? 

1158
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:33,800
No, no, No 7. 
And and then then he kind of got

1159
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,120
the idea right, because if you 
said anything, it was 08/9/10. 

1160
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,320
That could just basically, yeah,
no, you're, you're, you're 

1161
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,840
you're an asshole. 
You're a narcissistic asshole. 

1162
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,680
Even at the time, I didn't 
really understand narcissistic 

1163
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,240
abuse and shit like that. 
But this guy was a bona fide 

1164
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,920
narcissistic asshole. 
But my point of sharing the 

1165
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:57,480
story is, is that it was one of 
the the darkest chapters in my 

1166
01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,920
life. 
I truly feel that if I was a 

1167
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:05,520
different person, I could have 
really like this could have 

1168
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,040
really been the end to me. 
I could have got, I could have 

1169
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,280
kept staying on the, the 
prescription drugs. 

1170
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,320
I only did one prescription, but
let's say I kept renewing them. 

1171
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:19,000
Then then at the end of the 5-6 
months of this injury recovery, 

1172
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,040
you know what I mean? 
I have now a dependency on 

1173
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,960
painkillers and you build up a 
tolerance and now I got to get 

1174
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:26,440
off. 
Plus, they weaken your body, 

1175
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,040
right? 
You know, this is what it is. 

1176
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,200
You're on these pain pills that 
just, they suck the life out of 

1177
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,240
you, right? 
So there's that. 

1178
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,320
And then it's the emotional 
trauma, the humiliation of the 

1179
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,440
welfare office. 
The, the monster, that woman, it

1180
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:44,040
was a bona fide monster. 
I've never had anyone I've ever 

1181
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:48,160
dealt with since then that was 
as brutal to me. 

1182
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:51,240
You know what I mean? 
Just look at me and make some 

1183
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,240
kind of snap judgement. 
What do you think? 

1184
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,800
You're think you're some 
hotshot? 

1185
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:56,920
What are you doing here? 
Like, you know, that kind of 

1186
01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,400
attitude, like just that, just 
that sneer, like I'll never 

1187
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:05,280
forget that sneer on her face, 
that look right, that that 

1188
01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,560
judgement. 
And then something funny 

1189
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,840
happened, right, which I just 
course right, just to, you know,

1190
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:14,320
adds another kind of like bow on
the story. 

1191
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:17,680
So now I'm, you know, I'm good 
at sales. 

1192
01:04:17,680 --> 01:04:21,480
I'm, I'm working on it. 
I, I've, I'm dedicated to being 

1193
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,240
good at it again. 
I start applying for better jobs

1194
01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,280
and then I, you know, I 
interview, I get a, you know, 

1195
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:31,000
pretty good job, good base 
salary, you know, real step up, 

1196
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,320
right? 
Solid base salary, good package,

1197
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,440
medical benefits, you know, nice
office downtown. 

1198
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:45,800
And I remember, like as I said, 
this was like a beginning of a 

1199
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:49,800
new chapter for me now. 
No more humiliation, no more 

1200
01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:54,160
telemarketing, no more cane. 
I'm not using the cane anymore. 

1201
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:58,800
I'm back in the gym and I get 
that first paycheck and nice. 

1202
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,680
So my coworkers, I'm like, Hey, 
let's go and have some drinks. 

1203
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,920
It's been a rough 6 fucking 
months. 

1204
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,200
It's been a terrible six months.
If you guys even knew that half 

1205
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,960
of it right, You know, I didn't 
really tell anyone what 

1206
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,600
happened, but trust me, I'm 
going to go. 

1207
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,560
I want I'm going to out for a 
few drinks tonight after the you

1208
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,560
know, the the mountain of 
bullshit I just had to climb. 

1209
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,280
So we go to this bar. 
It was in gas town. 

1210
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:24,920
We're having a good time and 
there's a group of girls there 

1211
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,280
and we're interacting with them.
There's a girl I like, she's 

1212
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,320
kind of cute, right? 
I'm buying her drinks. 

1213
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,600
We're chatting and this and 
that. 

1214
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,680
And now I know better. 
But yeah, she was nice to me 

1215
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,560
because I'm buying her, you 
know, non-stop drinks. 

1216
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,080
And then I shoot my shot, right?
I shoot the shot. 

1217
01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:46,120
I'm like, hey, can I have your 
number? 

1218
01:05:46,120 --> 01:05:48,880
We seem to be getting along. 
You have a good sense of humor. 

1219
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,040
We're laughing lots, all that 
kind of stuff. 

1220
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,160
She goes, wow, I don't know, 
what do you do? 

1221
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,080
And I go, oh, I just got, I just
got to start a new job. 

1222
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:03,640
I I'm doing business development
for this high tech startup 

1223
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:05,800
company and blah, blah, blah, 
right. 

1224
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:11,560
Oh, she says, I don't know, I 
don't like capitalism. 

1225
01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,520
Yeah, I'm a guy. 
I couldn't, I, I don't think I 

1226
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:16,720
could date Someone Like You, 
someone that's seems to be 

1227
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:21,760
really into capitalism. 
And I just kind of like I said, 

1228
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:25,240
like, course you don't, right? 
And then I'm just like, OK, you 

1229
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:27,680
know, it wasn't bad, you know, 
whatever, you know, just, you 

1230
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,480
know, no big deal. 
And I said. 

1231
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,680
Well, but what do you do? 
She goes. 

1232
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:34,680
Oh, I work for an NGO. 
We do sustainable, blah, blah, 

1233
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:35,880
blah. 
I don't even remember something 

1234
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,640
sustainable for helping, you 
know, the downtrodden. 

1235
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,920
But now she was so much superior
than me. 

1236
01:06:41,920 --> 01:06:44,520
She's just now looking down at 
me because I'm an evil 

1237
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:46,360
capitalist. 
I'm thinking, well, weren't you 

1238
01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,320
a capitalist when you're taking 
the $100 worth of free alcohol I

1239
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,760
gave you this evening, Right? 
Again, no judgement. 

1240
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,320
I'm just kind of now amused, 
right? 

1241
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:54,840
Just everything I've been 
through, I'm just almost 

1242
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,640
chuckling, right? 
And then, you know, a bunch of 

1243
01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:59,960
dudes show up with, with the 
girls, right? 

1244
01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:03,000
And, and you know, they look 
very alternative, right? 

1245
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,120
You know, just the way they're 
dressed and stuff, they all 

1246
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,600
look, you know, they're, you 
know, I'm wearing dress pants 

1247
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,440
and a dress shirt and so I'm the
capitalist pig enemy, right? 

1248
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,480
And they're all wearing, you 
know, they're alternative, 

1249
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:17,000
they're NOLA gear and the guy's 
talking to me. 

1250
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:21,280
But same thing again, you know, 
judgmental, looking down at me. 

1251
01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:25,000
Oh yeah, you're the capitalism 
and telling me about all the 

1252
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,320
benefits of the socialist 
system. 

1253
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,840
And you know, I'm just accent. 
I'm just fucking amused at this 

1254
01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,120
point. 
I'm like, hey, right. 

1255
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,440
But, but it's like this scolding
lecture. 

1256
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:40,160
I'm better than you because my 
belief system is better and all.

1257
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:44,800
At this point in my life, all I 
care about is I have dignity 

1258
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:48,960
again, right? 
I'm not fucking telemarketing. 

1259
01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,920
I'm able to pay my bills, I have
extra money, I'm able to feed 

1260
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,760
myself. 
I recovered from a strata of a 

1261
01:07:55,760 --> 01:07:59,720
fucking one of the worst 
injuries up to this time, right?

1262
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,680
I'm recovering from this injury,
you know, I can walk without a 

1263
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:07,080
cane according to them. 
I'm a piece of shit capitalist, 

1264
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:11,160
you know what I mean? 
I'm just happy that that I'm 

1265
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,440
paying my bills again. 
I'm on my own 2 feet. 

1266
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:17,439
And I also recovered from a 
severe emotional injury from 

1267
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:20,120
that woman at the at the welfare
office, right? 

1268
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,880
So, you know, I'm resilient. 
I'm just like, wow, that's cool.

1269
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,720
That's cool, right? 
And then I'm thinking it's like,

1270
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:28,560
you know what? 
I miss a time where, you know, 

1271
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:32,000
again, when I was working for, 
you know, stockbrokers, we'd go 

1272
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:35,080
to these crazy parties. 
It'd be all they'd be goth 

1273
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:39,000
chicks, it'd be punk rockers. 
We'd go to Adam and some after 

1274
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,840
hours with, with, you know, 
crazy drag Queens that we'd 

1275
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:47,000
have, you know, having, you 
know, it was fun like no one. 

1276
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,680
There was no violence. 
There was no judgement. 

1277
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,319
They were just like, you are 
cool, I'm cool. 

1278
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,359
You have your unique thing. 
I missed this time in Vancouver 

1279
01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:59,120
where people were allowed just 
to be them. 

1280
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:02,000
And that's what I liked about 
kits from going from E Van. 

1281
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,800
It was that one period of my 
life where I could just be me, 

1282
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,600
right? 
You can be you, right? 

1283
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:12,720
I, I get it. 
If someone's, if someone's mean 

1284
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,640
and cruel and horrible to you, 
then you have the right to be 

1285
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,800
judge mental. 
But this became this weird 

1286
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:23,399
culture of, well, I believe in 
this system and my system is 

1287
01:09:23,399 --> 01:09:26,760
better than your system. 
And then I started noticing this

1288
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,720
in Vancouver, where this 
attitude became more and more 

1289
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:33,560
and more and more and more, 
right. 

1290
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,040
And this is what I'm going to be
getting into the next podcast, 

1291
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:41,000
the next the next podcast. 
What I'm going to talk about is 

1292
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:46,359
the behind the scenes. 
Of running a large platform, I 

1293
01:09:46,359 --> 01:09:50,439
interact with a lot of people 
like for example if I looked at 

1294
01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,440
my analytics for this week. 
Alone I've reached close to 

1295
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:57,520
about 300,000 accounts. 
I talked to people all over the 

1296
01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,200
world, the United States, 
Australia. 

1297
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:03,320
I talked to doctors, I talked to
business people, I talked to 

1298
01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:05,960
housewives, I talked to blue 
collar dudes. 

1299
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:08,840
And I'll talk to anyone if 
you're cool. 

1300
01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:12,880
I don't care, right? 
I don't care if you have woke 

1301
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,920
ideologies, as long as you let 
me have my ideologies, I don't 

1302
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:19,280
care. 
You know, of course, if you, if 

1303
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,840
you, if you advocate for putting
people in ovens, yeah, we're 

1304
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:27,160
going to have some problems. 
But there's been like this. 

1305
01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:31,520
My point is like this 
superiority complex that I faced

1306
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:34,600
a lot of in my life, hence the 
story, right? 

1307
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,320
I let people be you, be you, 
right? 

1308
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:42,320
Like I was thinking about it 
like when I had, you know, in 

1309
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,400
another podcast, if I, you 
mentioned I went through rehab. 

1310
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,960
I got in touch with more of my 
spiritual aspects. 

1311
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,920
I'm not going to get into it 
right. 

1312
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,560
And I believe that people's 
spiritualism, their religion is 

1313
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,080
important to them. 
Yours might be different than 

1314
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:01,080
mine, but yours is different to 
you because it's for you. 

1315
01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:04,360
That makes sense. 
Some people, a religious 

1316
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,920
experience is walking through 
the forest, doing a power walk, 

1317
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,200
baby taking mushrooms, being out
in the forest, being of nature. 

1318
01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:15,480
That could be a very spiritual 
moment, right? 

1319
01:11:15,480 --> 01:11:17,640
And, and, and that could bring 
meaning to your life, the 

1320
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,880
connection to nature. 
Some people is going to a 

1321
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:24,280
Catholic Church, right? 
I like going to a Catholic 

1322
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,360
Church. 
I go to the Holy Rosary downtown

1323
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,840
Vancouver when I'm stressed out.
I light candles for all my dead 

1324
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:32,840
relatives and my dead loved ones
because I, I, I feel a 

1325
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,920
connection. 
You know, you walk in there. 

1326
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,400
It's a beautiful old church. 
I go to the section where they 

1327
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:40,200
have the candles. 
I put money in there. 

1328
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:42,760
I light candles for them. 
I say a prayer for them, I say a

1329
01:11:42,760 --> 01:11:45,920
prayer for their souls. 
That's my moment where I 

1330
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,800
reconnect to those memories of 
those people and I have that 

1331
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,560
thought to them. 
I would never force and say that

1332
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,520
you have to do that or else. 
But that's my thing, right? 

1333
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,600
You see what I mean? 
And then some of my belief 

1334
01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,400
systems, I'm not even kidding, 
back in the Middle Ages, I'd be 

1335
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,600
burnt at the stake for being a 
heretic. 

1336
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:08,520
So in some ways I'm a heretic, 
right? 

1337
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,400
I have my belief systems. 
I don't push them on anyone 

1338
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,720
else. 
I, I, I don't want anyone ever 

1339
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:19,280
to agree with me. 
But I, I do hope that you will 

1340
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:21,800
understand me. 
So This is why I shared this 

1341
01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:26,080
because I'm going to get in more
into it because running the 

1342
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,160
podcast and like I said, I've 
been a construction worker, I've

1343
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:34,360
worked across Canada, at bars 
across Canada and promotion 

1344
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,400
companies. 
I've worked in the corporate 

1345
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,240
world. 
I've done high volume 

1346
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:43,480
transactional selling where I 
had to make hundreds of calls 

1347
01:12:43,480 --> 01:12:47,240
each and every day connecting 
with people, having to convince 

1348
01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,800
people to buy stuff. 
You have to connect with people 

1349
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:51,840
to do that. 
To be good at that, you have to 

1350
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,960
connect to them. 
And and one of my specialties 

1351
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:58,160
when I was in my sales world is 
a thing called solution selling 

1352
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,160
is and what the solution selling
is. 

1353
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,520
It's not forcing an idea down 
someone's throat. 

1354
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,880
It's finding a solution for them
that helps them. 

1355
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:09,000
If I don't have a solution, I 
walk away. 

1356
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:14,080
If I can't help you, hey, maybe 
when when you need this, you 

1357
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,400
know who I am, you can reach out
to me. 

1358
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:21,080
But if I have a solution for you
and you agree that you need this

1359
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:25,680
solution, we together are going 
to find a way to solve this 

1360
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,480
problem. 
And in that, and by doing that, 

1361
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:33,600
in that transaction, I make a 
Commission by helping you solve 

1362
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,720
a problem. 
So that is my mindset, right? 

1363
01:13:36,920 --> 01:13:41,000
I come from a place where, like 
I said, I used to go to parties 

1364
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:42,960
and there's every walk of life 
in there. 

1365
01:13:43,400 --> 01:13:45,840
Everyone got along, everyone was
cool. 

1366
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,440
Right. 
I miss those days. 

1367
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:53,680
I miss those crazy after hours. 
Used to go to the world at 5:00 

1368
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:56,560
in the morning. 
You know, half would be drag 

1369
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,560
Queens. 
I'd give high fives and fist 

1370
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,520
bumps because they were cool, 
they were fun, right? 

1371
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,280
They made my life fucking 
magical, right? 

1372
01:14:04,280 --> 01:14:06,240
You know what I mean? 
But that movement and 

1373
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:07,440
everything, you know what I 
mean? 

1374
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,680
Everything got twisted 
politically, like people. 

1375
01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:15,280
For who they are, long as 
they're not harming people, as 

1376
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,840
long as they're not monsters. 
I don't like monsters. 

1377
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,840
That woman at the welfare office
was a fucking monster. 

1378
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,960
I know she's hurt people and she
enjoys hurting people, right? 

1379
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:30,680
I hope karma has gotten to her 
right? 

1380
01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,480
I hope she'll get what she 
deserves because. 

1381
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:37,160
She has a massive karma debt, 
not just to me but that's her 

1382
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:39,720
practice. 
Get the behind behind her 

1383
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,480
government job and all that kind
of stuff and hurt people. 

1384
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,360
So one of the things I'm going 
to be really getting into the 

1385
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,360
next podcast is the thing what I
call gatekeepers. 

1386
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:54,440
I have been researching Major 
Crimes in Western Canada, 

1387
01:14:54,440 --> 01:15:01,480
British Columbia, ranging from 
the 1980s all the way to present

1388
01:15:01,480 --> 01:15:04,320
day. 
In every major case, when I go 

1389
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,960
out and meet people, talk to 
people, most people, you know, 

1390
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:10,600
their families, the people 
infected by it, I always run 

1391
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,360
across these people that are 
self appointed gatekeepers and 

1392
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:18,720
I've had them ruin my podcasts. 
I had them drain the life out of

1393
01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:22,400
me. 
These people actually can be 

1394
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:26,720
quite despicable because just 
like that woman at the bar who 

1395
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,520
would take my alcohol, right? 
Right. 

1396
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,520
But when I asked for her number,
oh, I was a piece of shit 

1397
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:35,880
capitalist and she was the cool 
kid because she works for the 

1398
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,200
NGO, right? 
Capitalism, evil socialism is 

1399
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,280
where it's at, right? 
Superiority. 

1400
01:15:42,440 --> 01:15:44,120
This is what these gatekeepers 
are like. 

1401
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,040
They are giving to, to provide 
for the case. 

1402
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,640
And sometimes they do good work,
sometimes they do good services,

1403
01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:54,480
but somehow they became self 
appointed. 

1404
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:59,120
The narrative of these cases 
that someone had a tragedy of, 

1405
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,960
and I really am starting to. 
Resent them I'm not calling them

1406
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:06,320
out by name, but I want you to 
be aware kind of behind of a 

1407
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:12,120
bigger picture, right there are 
multiple layers to a lot of 

1408
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,280
these cases and to a lot of 
these stories and. 

1409
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:19,880
Many of these cases, you know, 
there's like the JFK case, oh, 

1410
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,720
Oswald did it all by himself. 
Anyone that looks at it, they 

1411
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:24,760
say it's impossible, right? 
We're not going to talk about 

1412
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:28,440
JFK right now. 
But that's just a prime example.

1413
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:31,600
They are gatekeepers. 
And then if you disagree with 

1414
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,920
it, guess what? 
You get your name dragged 

1415
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:39,360
through the mud, that you're a 
lunatic, conspiracy theorist, 

1416
01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:45,200
troublemaker, smear, 
untouchable, and gatekeeping's a

1417
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,200
massive problem. 
It's an absolutely massive 

1418
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:50,480
problem. 
It's a massive toxic problem 

1419
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:54,440
that causes more harm than good 
because the truth never comes 

1420
01:16:54,440 --> 01:16:56,880
out. 
Canada, for whatever reason, and

1421
01:16:56,880 --> 01:17:01,200
I call it the Maple syrup 
curtain, the Iron Curtain. 

1422
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:04,480
Iron Curtain. 
Secrecy. 

1423
01:17:04,480 --> 01:17:10,600
Can't share news stories, can't 
share information that are 

1424
01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:12,880
important. 
Most news stories have some 

1425
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,080
importance because they affect 
people, right? 

1426
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:20,200
This crazy blockade that most 
people cases are shrouded in 

1427
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:26,360
secrecy. 
Stonewall media does shit jobs 

1428
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:31,040
of covering these cases. 
Lukewarm reports, right? 

1429
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,520
A bunch of gatekeeping experts 
on that. 

1430
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,360
Just blah, blah, blah talking 
points, politicians that are 

1431
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,400
stone deaf, that don't listen to
people, don't try to solve 

1432
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,640
problems. 
We got to start listening to 

1433
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,360
people. 
We got to start caring about 

1434
01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:48,040
each other just like we were 
when I was talking about in East

1435
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:50,680
Vancouver. 
Weren't perfect, we are a bit 

1436
01:17:50,680 --> 01:17:53,160
rough, but we cared about each 
other. 

1437
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:55,000
We had each other's back and I 
missed that. 

1438
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,160
I'll be back for the next 
podcast. 

1439
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:01,520
We'll talk to you soon and then 
I'll get back to my Picton 

1440
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,080
research because quite frankly, 
I'm just saying the case is 

1441
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:07,400
exhausting, right? 
So it's exhausting. 

1442
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:10,880
The research is exhausting. 
The impact is exhausting. 

1443
01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:13,960
Talking to victims families is, 
is, is emotionally 

1444
01:18:13,960 --> 01:18:17,160
heartbreaking, heart wrenching. 
The other day I spent an hour on

1445
01:18:17,160 --> 01:18:20,520
the phone with Mike, the father 
of Chelsea Portman. 

1446
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:24,320
I'll get into that case someday.
Horrible, monstrous case. 

1447
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,400
Get along really well with him. 
I love talking to him, right. 

1448
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,200
I'm glad he's doing better, but 
the gatekeeping on that has been

1449
01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:34,960
horrendous. 
Absolutely horrendous. 

1450
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,600
His daughter goes missing and 
found in some fancy mansion 

1451
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,840
that's under construction in the
Shaughnessy, the fancy rich area

1452
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:49,640
of town with their head missing 
and reports nothing suspicious. 

1453
01:18:49,640 --> 01:18:52,920
And then what? 
Does the shithead media do this 

1454
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:56,280
parrot like a bunch of assholes?
Yeah, please say nothing 

1455
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:57,320
suspicious. 
She isn't head. 

1456
01:18:57,480 --> 01:19:00,920
What happened to journalists? 
What happened to sermon critical

1457
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:02,840
thinking? 
There is none. 

1458
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:04,840
There's there's cocktail 
parties. 

1459
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:08,360
There's there's shindigs. 
There's hopefully. 

1460
01:19:08,360 --> 01:19:12,160
Oh, advancements by the 
government like that one 

1461
01:19:12,240 --> 01:19:16,520
journalist in Canada. 
He got a $9 million condo in New

1462
01:19:16,520 --> 01:19:19,160
York. 
Guess he played pretty good ball

1463
01:19:19,160 --> 01:19:21,320
for them, right? 
Little reward, right? 

1464
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:23,680
That's where we're at. 
So anyways, thanks a lot. 

1465
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:24,440
Thanks for listening.