1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,600 Hi. I am Mark, I am the host of 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,100 Vancouver. True Crime. 3 00:00:04,500 --> 00:00:07,100 I want to offer a trigger warning, for the listening 4 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:10,400 audience. Because again, yes, it's a true 5 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,800 crime podcast and I talked about very dark, very disturbing 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:18,900 subject matter. I'm a researcher of criminal 7 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:22,300 activity and predators and serial killers. 8 00:00:22,300 --> 00:00:27,900 I focus mainly on serial killers and predators that operate in 9 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:29,900 the province of British Columbia, Canada. 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Eda and specifically the city of Vancouver and the Metro 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:40,500 Vancouver surrounding area, this series is called The Stolen 12 00:00:40,500 --> 00:00:45,000 Sisters of East Vancouver, and this series is going to focus 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:52,800 from 1960 to 2022. Present-day of predators. 14 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:58,500 Serial killers and abusers, who go into this neighborhood and 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:02,600 use it. As a hunting ground for sexual 16 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:06,700 deviancy murder and other abuses. 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,400 Unfortunately indigenous women are prime, are the primary 18 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,600 targets of predators and serial killers in this neighborhood. 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:22,000 However, women of every color creed nationality, skin tone 20 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,600 have been victims of predators, as well. 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,800 And also to, we know, we live in a time where we got to 22 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,100 acknowledge everyone and And you know, there's been people of 23 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:37,000 different genders and also sexual Persuasions as well that 24 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:42,400 have been targeted by Predators primarily though, I am going to 25 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:47,700 focus on missing murdered indigenous women and girls who 26 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:53,200 are the primary targets for these types of criminals and 27 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,300 predators and, and, and for reasons that are cultural. 28 00:01:58,700 --> 00:02:06,000 And These women have been come very marginalized and they 29 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:11,600 become attractive to creeps to Target and and that is the 30 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:15,100 unfortunate history of this neighborhood. 31 00:02:15,100 --> 00:02:19,300 The downtown Eastside. So when you add up the amount of 32 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:24,700 victims of Willie Pickton, Martin Tremblay, who was a 33 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:29,400 predator, who targeted primary again indigenous girls who are 34 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:35,200 under Eh, he like girls that are teens broken homes, typically 35 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,900 indigenous, who he would learn with drugs alcohol, and they 36 00:02:39,900 --> 00:02:44,400 would be targets of his predatorial behavior, where he 37 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,700 would get them passed out, videotape, his sexual assaults, 38 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:52,700 and sometimes these women would die under the influence of all 39 00:02:52,700 --> 00:02:55,500 the drugs that he provided Earth by overdose. 40 00:02:55,900 --> 00:03:02,000 We go into Willie Pickton and In future episodes, I've done a ton 41 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:08,400 of research again, the missing women inquiry again, both 65 42 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,700 women who lived in the neighborhood of the downtown 43 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:14,400 Eastside, were targeted by Willie Picton. 44 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:19,800 Majority of them were indigenous but the women came from all 45 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:23,600 walks of life, backgrounds and nationalities and skin tones. 46 00:03:24,100 --> 00:03:28,200 In my opinion they all are our Stolen Sisters. 47 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,300 They are sisters, our mothers. as there are relatives, there 48 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:35,700 are women in our community who didn't deserve to be targeted 49 00:03:35,700 --> 00:03:40,500 and murdered and being abused by creeps who got away with it for 50 00:03:40,500 --> 00:03:48,400 a very long time, this series is going to be about How the court 51 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:53,800 system policing the community at Large? 52 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Created a perfect environment for these predators to operate, 53 00:04:01,500 --> 00:04:05,300 pretty much with impunity. They were able to operate out in 54 00:04:05,300 --> 00:04:08,800 the open, they Blended in, they felt very comfortable in this 55 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,700 environment, to Target, women to murder, to abuse to sexually, 56 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:19,000 assault them, and it went on and it's going on for a very long 57 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:22,200 time. I document it from boat, going 58 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:29,800 from the 1960s to present day. Of women and girls, the people 59 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:35,600 who are impacted by these crimes, for example, recently, I 60 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,700 posted a couple days ago, I posted on my Instagram page 61 00:04:39,700 --> 00:04:42,700 Vancouver. True Crime on Instagram, about 62 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:46,900 my upcoming series about the boozing Barber. 63 00:04:46,900 --> 00:04:49,800 The boozing Barbers named Gilbert Jordan. 64 00:04:50,100 --> 00:04:55,100 He was a very Meek, unassuming short chubby, man. 65 00:04:55,300 --> 00:04:59,900 Man with thick glasses, who targeted women with alcohol 66 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,100 offering the money to go drink with them back in his room, or 67 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:06,700 his Barbershop only to force more alcohol on them and to the 68 00:05:06,700 --> 00:05:10,300 point where he's literally pouring it down their throat and 69 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:15,200 then only to murder and sexual assault them as they blacked out 70 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:20,700 from all the alcohol. That he provided them II posted 71 00:05:20,700 --> 00:05:24,200 this on my Facebook as well. My Vancouver, True Crime, 72 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:31,900 Facebook, A woman replied saying this monster took our mother 35 73 00:05:31,900 --> 00:05:35,100 years ago. So, these victims are real 74 00:05:35,100 --> 00:05:39,900 people, you know, they are they, these victims, they have family, 75 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:42,900 they have daughters. They had people that cared and 76 00:05:42,900 --> 00:05:47,900 loved them very much and miss them dearly and it is a true 77 00:05:47,900 --> 00:05:52,400 tragedy in our country with all our modern day laws and Court 78 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:57,000 Systems and Technology. And all those things that we 79 00:05:57,000 --> 00:06:03,600 think are there to protect us and it certainly didn't protect 80 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:08,200 them. So my goal with this series is 81 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:14,000 to one highlight the monsters that were able to operate in the 82 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:22,800 open and had the Comfort to Target women and girls with with 83 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:28,500 really Really stopping them because he look at the numbers 84 00:06:28,500 --> 00:06:31,900 that they were able to accumulate. 85 00:06:31,900 --> 00:06:39,200 So again, I'm going to focus in the next few podcast really on 86 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,800 for Predators. So in this episode, I'll be 87 00:06:43,808 --> 00:06:49,300 talking about Gilbert Jordan. The boozing Barber, I talked a 88 00:06:49,300 --> 00:06:53,100 little bit about Martin Tremblay, who was a sexual 89 00:06:53,100 --> 00:06:57,900 deviant drug dealer, Ori drug dealer, who would use drugs to 90 00:06:57,900 --> 00:07:02,900 lure, underage girls? To do very deviant acts on them. 91 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:04,800 Film them while they were passed out. 92 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,900 So, the two, these two people Gilbert, Jordan Barton. 93 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:12,500 Tremblay their victim pools are in the hundreds of Gilbert 94 00:07:12,500 --> 00:07:16,200 Jordan. According to court, testimony 95 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:23,900 from 1980 to 1988, he targeted about 200 women in these 96 00:07:23,900 --> 00:07:27,600 downtown Eastside. Ours to go back with them, pay 97 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:31,000 for sex, to abuse them, to sexually assault them. 98 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:36,500 He was a very prolific Predator. So, you look at the numbers, we 99 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:41,700 talked about 200 over 8 years, I have 1600 women, according to 100 00:07:41,700 --> 00:07:47,300 these numbers that he targeted to abuse one man. 1600 women 10. 101 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:53,000 Women believed to be dead at his hands. 102 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,400 Then Martin Tremblay. They probably were talking 103 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,200 victims in the hundreds. And then, of course, we're 104 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:04,000 talking about Willie Pickton. He claimed he murdered 49 105 00:08:04,300 --> 00:08:09,100 different women and he wanted a murder one more to make it an 106 00:08:09,100 --> 00:08:11,400 even 50. Plus all the other women that he 107 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,900 probably disabused and sexually assaulted were probably talking 108 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:18,600 in the hundreds and then there's another creep. 109 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,600 A man named Don Baker, who targeted women sex workers on 110 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:30,100 the downtown east side, Do very brutal vicious assaults where he 111 00:08:30,100 --> 00:08:32,900 would videotape them for his sick pleasure. 112 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,600 They identified about 50 women that he targeted. 113 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:40,299 There's a lot probably lot more that they don't know about and 114 00:08:40,299 --> 00:08:45,300 he also went overseas to countries like Cambodia where he 115 00:08:45,300 --> 00:08:49,400 targeted nine year, old children as a as young as nine year old 116 00:08:49,500 --> 00:08:52,800 to for sexual abuse and violence. 117 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:59,000 So for predators Is who operated from 1960 to present day. 118 00:08:59,100 --> 00:09:03,600 And look at the size of the victim pool from four people. 119 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:07,800 The criminal justice system was unable to prevent them for 120 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:12,900 targeting all these women and and the court system, the way it 121 00:09:12,900 --> 00:09:15,000 is. And the way that people who can 122 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:20,300 afford, good lawyers are able to manipulate the system to keep on 123 00:09:20,300 --> 00:09:23,200 abusing. So, we're going to explore all 124 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:27,300 of this, in the next few. Series and and it's a true 125 00:09:27,300 --> 00:09:33,000 tragedy when you think about it for predatory men who targeted 126 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:38,100 one neighborhood, thousands of victims and combination and not 127 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:42,000 only this, the victims of victims, the family, the loved 128 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:46,000 ones who had to endure this tragedy. 129 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:50,700 And the cost of society, the cost on quartz it cost for 130 00:09:50,700 --> 00:09:56,300 police to cost for, you know, even the cost at the Pickton 131 00:09:56,300 --> 00:09:59,900 Farm hundreds of millions of dollars to go through that 132 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:05,000 disgusting, 16-acre. Filthy pig farm of manure, dirt 133 00:10:05,300 --> 00:10:09,800 and and rubbish, looking for tiny little fragments of Bones, 134 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:15,000 to identify the DNA of these victims are real tragedy and 135 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,300 thank you for joining me. Me and as we break down this 136 00:10:18,300 --> 00:10:21,100 very dark and disturbing subject matter together. 137 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:23,400 Thank you so much. Thank you for listening. 138 00:10:25,300 --> 00:10:29,100 Welcome to the Vancouver. True Crime podcast. 139 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,900 I am Mark. I am host of the show. 140 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,300 Thank you so much for tuning in and listening. 141 00:10:37,700 --> 00:10:42,400 I appreciate it very much. In this episode is part 2, The 142 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,000 Stolen Sisters of East Vancouver. 143 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:49,800 When I originally wrote this series, I was on a call. 144 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,900 It the monsters of the downtown Eastside and the whole premise 145 00:10:54,500 --> 00:11:01,800 of this series is to show how since the early 1960s all the 146 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:07,600 way to present day that this has Canada's primary hunting ground 147 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:13,700 for serial killers, sexual deviants, predators and abusers 148 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:16,000 of mostly women mostly indigenous. 149 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:24,400 However, the victim pool represents women of all Races. 150 00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:31,700 All skin tones nationalities. And they're all our Stolen 151 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:35,800 Sisters in this episode. However, we're going to be 152 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,800 talking about a real monstrous little creep. 153 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:44,000 Called Gilbert, Jordan bald-headed. 154 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,100 Fit, glasses-wearing Miken appearance. 155 00:11:47,500 --> 00:11:52,500 Chubby middle-aged, But he was extremely lethal. 156 00:11:52,900 --> 00:11:58,100 He murdered over 10 indigenous women over a period of time. 157 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:07,100 He was only charged for one and he did very little jail time for 158 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:11,700 all his, monstrous deeds in the downtown Eastside, I'll be 159 00:12:11,700 --> 00:12:19,600 breaking down his actions, the consequences And the history of 160 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:25,500 this creep, that stole many sisters in the downtown 161 00:12:25,500 --> 00:12:30,000 Eastside. So I took a bit of a break to 162 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,000 recharge the batteries and the New Year. 163 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,700 I hope everybody's having a great New Year's and I hope all 164 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:43,000 your wishes dreams and desires. We'll come to tradition. 165 00:12:45,500 --> 00:12:49,600 I have a lot planned and a lot in store over the next few 166 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,800 episodes. And one of the things I want to 167 00:12:53,808 --> 00:12:57,000 talk about quickly though, before I get into this episode 168 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,300 is a research that I've been doing about serial killers. 169 00:13:00,300 --> 00:13:03,900 I've been doing a real deep dive into serial killers. 170 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:10,100 Now, primarily I started writing this series in early September, 171 00:13:10,100 --> 00:13:15,700 and I've been doing a very deep dive this in the topic of Real 172 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:19,900 killers themselves and their the cook. 173 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:21,900 Some interesting things have come to light. 174 00:13:21,900 --> 00:13:25,900 So, when I first came across this case about Gilbert Jordan, 175 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:32,700 the boozing Barber, the man who killed by using alcohol as his 176 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:36,000 primary murder weapon. I first, I thought he was kind 177 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,900 of unique. Me can his appearance again? 178 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:44,300 Short, chubby, middle-aged bald, man hanging around dive bars, 179 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:50,600 harassing And offering women who are down on their luck, 180 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:55,300 alcoholics, money to go party and drink with them and and 181 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:59,900 paying for sex. So, I first, I thought this was 182 00:13:59,900 --> 00:14:04,600 kind of a unique type of killer, but quite frankly, he's quite 183 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:10,700 typical most murderers that are serial killers want to operate 184 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,400 in their comfort zone, and neighborhoods are comfortable 185 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,200 in, and they primary use a murder weapon that they're 186 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,700 comfortable with. So, when we discuss serial 187 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:22,700 killers, in the topic of serial killers, what is a serial 188 00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:26,400 killer? So, just like, probably me at 189 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,200 first week. We tend to think of a serial 190 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:34,600 killer that hunts primary women for sexual gratification, they 191 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:40,400 tend to strangle some cases they dismembered, and there's usually 192 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,700 a sexual component to their killing. 193 00:14:42,900 --> 00:14:47,500 However, anybody, man, or woman who kills, more than two or 194 00:14:47,500 --> 00:14:51,100 three people is classified as a serial killer. 195 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:54,800 So, there are situations. Let's say this were at say, a 196 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:59,100 man who gets into a bar fight. Wait, who's very violent? 197 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:01,900 And that say this, he gets into a fight with some dude in the 198 00:15:01,900 --> 00:15:06,400 parking lot and he pulls out a tire iron and bashes that guy's 199 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,300 head and blunt force. Trauma, let's say he throws a 200 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:12,200 dude in the trunk drives out in the woods and berries that guy 201 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,500 that guy goes missing. He's never found. 202 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,000 And that murder goes on solve that guy drives into another 203 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:24,100 town goes to a bar, has anger issues gets into a fight pulls 204 00:15:24,100 --> 00:15:28,100 out a tire iron bashes, the guy's head and, and And goes and 205 00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:30,500 buries a guy somewhere in a rural area. 206 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:35,000 So this person would be a serial killer but we wouldn't classify 207 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,700 them in the. We wouldn't think of them in the 208 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:38,600 classic sense of a serial killer. 209 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,900 However, he would still be a serial killer so then there's 210 00:15:41,900 --> 00:15:44,200 what's called organizational Killers. 211 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:50,400 People who work for organized crime or gangs or even Des as 212 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:55,400 individuals as Hit Men or sicarios. 213 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,400 If they're from South America Mexico or Central America, 214 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:07,000 sicario is a Spanish term for a hit man, these people kill for 215 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,200 money. I've been doing a lot of 216 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,300 research and I've been working on some new material for the 217 00:16:12,300 --> 00:16:14,500 series. I also do called True Crime. 218 00:16:14,500 --> 00:16:17,700 Gangster stories you've heard some of the interviews with my 219 00:16:17,700 --> 00:16:22,700 friend David who was a hitman for the Colombian cartels. 220 00:16:22,700 --> 00:16:26,800 Mexican Towels and the mafia according to other hit men that 221 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:32,300 I've talked to typically the going rate to be hired to kill 222 00:16:32,300 --> 00:16:36,400 someone is about twenty thousand dollars, typically more. 223 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,900 If the person's famous or a politician or if the person is 224 00:16:39,908 --> 00:16:45,500 considered someone that is, you know, Nora righty, someone 225 00:16:45,500 --> 00:16:48,400 that's in the media or something like that, there probably be a 226 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:51,700 higher price for them. However, twenty thousand dollars 227 00:16:52,500 --> 00:16:55,500 could hire Uryu. A Hitman to kill someone on your 228 00:16:55,500 --> 00:16:59,800 behalf. Typically, from my talks, with 229 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,000 various hit men that I've talked to typically, what they tend to 230 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,900 do is they usually follow the person around when they're 231 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:09,700 driving. When the person park somewhere 232 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:14,700 quiet, secluded and dark, that pit man will appear at their 233 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:19,700 driver side window Glock at the window in their face before the 234 00:17:19,700 --> 00:17:25,500 person even has a chance to react Pop, pop pop goes a Glock 235 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,500 that person has virtually no defense to it, it's very 236 00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:32,900 effective. Just pull up right at someone's 237 00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:38,100 window gun. Bang person's dead off. 238 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:41,900 They go, sometimes they'll burn the car, throw incinerator and 239 00:17:41,900 --> 00:17:44,700 device both times. They just leave the person dead 240 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:47,900 and off. They go one hit, man, that I 241 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:52,600 talked to, he said, he would shoot them in the whites of the 242 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:54,900 eyes. Because he knew that they were 243 00:17:54,900 --> 00:17:56,700 dead. You put a bullet in someone's 244 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,600 eye balls, most likely they're not going to survive, especially 245 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:06,000 a large caliber like a 40-caliber Glock right in the 246 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:11,100 head that person is guaranteed to be dead and that's that, 247 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:15,000 that's how fast it can happen and that's how it usually goes 248 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:16,500 down. I'll get more into that. 249 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:20,300 And I have some more interviews with other hit men that I will 250 00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:27,900 be breaking down in the Future. So again, you know, most of the 251 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:31,800 time, the public won't really put the classification of a hit 252 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,800 man as a serial killer. But really, they are, if you 253 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,500 kill more than one or two, sorry if you kill more than two to 254 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:43,300 three people, you are a serial killer, then there's like, you 255 00:18:43,300 --> 00:18:46,600 know, back in the day I was I found out something quite 256 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,300 interesting and they're in their early turn of the century. 257 00:18:50,300 --> 00:18:53,600 There was quite a few women serial killers and And these 258 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,700 women serial killers. This is like in the early 1900's 259 00:18:56,700 --> 00:19:01,600 who throughout the 1940s these women would go from community 260 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:05,800 and community and marry older men murder them for their 261 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:09,900 financial means and then move off to another Community. 262 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:17,400 Now with you know, internet and being able to tie people to you 263 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:20,000 know, patterns of murder, they're easier to get caught for 264 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:23,100 example, but woman marries a man, murders them and collect. 265 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:26,900 The insurance money and then goes and marries another person 266 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:28,000 murders. I'm collects. 267 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,400 The insurance money. That will be a clear pattern 268 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,600 majority of people get caught for murder because they murder 269 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,300 people that they know and there is a tie. 270 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:41,100 That's why. When someone hires a hit man 271 00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:45,600 specially from another Province country, it makes it very 272 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,200 difficult to catch them. There's no ties and the person 273 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,500 who may be ordered, the murder has a solid alibi. 274 00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:56,300 Annie. Look at the homicide map that I 275 00:19:56,300 --> 00:19:59,000 posted on my Instagram page of Vancouver. 276 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,800 True Crime. I basically stop bothering 277 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,900 counting. I got up to 550, Cold Case, 278 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:11,300 homicides. And and I think that brought me 279 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:16,000 up to about 2018, there's probably another 20, 30 added to 280 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:20,300 that mostly gang-related. And most of these are people 281 00:20:20,300 --> 00:20:25,500 who've been, you know, these are you Usually gangsters hiring, 282 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,300 maybe outside other gangsters Hitmen sicarios to take out 283 00:20:30,300 --> 00:20:36,400 Rivals and things like that. So again, you know, we look at 284 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,800 the phenomena of serial killers and there's a lot of 285 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,500 misconception, one of the most misconception is most of these 286 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:45,600 killers. Do not look like what you think 287 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,900 they're going to look like, they don't look scary. 288 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,500 They blend in and they can come across quite Meek. 289 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:56,400 And in public just like, Gordon Gilbert short, chubby hanging 290 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,300 around, dive bars, probably kind of nerdy, probably kind of like, 291 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:07,200 you know, from my understanding is this is that he was a sexual 292 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:12,600 predator, he would go to all the disgusting, little dive bars, 293 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,100 all along Hastings Street, find women that were alcoholics, 294 00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:21,000 offer them money to drink with him, offer the money to drink 295 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,000 more with them. He would either Take him to his 296 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,400 Barber Shop, which was called the slow can Barbershop on. 297 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:32,600 Kingsway Street, he would calves free-flowing, booze have another 298 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,300 drink have another drink. Again, these women are 299 00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:38,000 alcoholics. They probably were eager to 300 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,000 accept and they probably felt safe and, and in his presence 301 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,200 because he didn't come across as threatening, he would keep 302 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:49,200 offering them booze and then he would offer the money to drink. 303 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:54,600 Straight liquor out of a bottle. And and then He would force the 304 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,900 booze down his throat, literally holding the bottle, making them 305 00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:03,100 drink more and more as I got drunker and drunker passing out 306 00:22:03,100 --> 00:22:05,800 blocking out. He would start basically almost 307 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,700 like waterboarding them with alcohol, until they were 308 00:22:10,100 --> 00:22:14,100 incapacitated unconscious. Once they were unconscious, he 309 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:18,200 usually stripped them. Naked, had sexual intercourse 310 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:25,200 with them and until they died. Sometimes he Would call call in 311 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,100 the the deaths and report them to the police and chorus cute, 312 00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:32,300 act, all innocent. Oh we were drinking too much and 313 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:34,700 blah blah, blah. I guess she had too much to 314 00:22:34,700 --> 00:22:38,500 drink and, you know, you know oops, oops, he was all an 315 00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:42,000 accident and a lot of these deaths were ruled, as accidental 316 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,100 deaths, or alcohol poisoning, until there was quite a 317 00:22:45,100 --> 00:22:48,100 clear-cut pattern of it. I'll be getting into a story a 318 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:51,900 lot more, but I just want to paraphrase what his mode of 319 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:54,800 operation was. Now, what I'm also trying to 320 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:59,400 talk about that. Yes, he used alcohol but it's 321 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,600 not as unique as you think because Killers again they will 322 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,000 use what they're come from. Jordan was a heavy alcoholic. 323 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,100 He was comfortable booze and he was comfortable drinking, a lot 324 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:15,100 of heavy alcohol. It was sad that he drank up to 325 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:18,200 50 ounces of alcohol each and every day. 326 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,700 So obviously had a high tolerance and and he could 327 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:26,400 probably Behold a lot of liquor from a lifetime of drinking, 328 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,700 heavy alcohol. So he was comfortable around all 329 00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:32,200 call, who's comfortable in the downtown Eastside. 330 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:36,700 He didn't stand out, he kind of Blended in, and, and he didn't 331 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:41,600 look threatening, very classic of very of many different serial 332 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,700 killers, Willie Pickton, which, I'll be doing more in this 333 00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:49,100 series about, I've done a lot of writing, a lot of research about 334 00:23:49,100 --> 00:23:52,300 Willie Pickton. He would offer, drugs, crack 335 00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:56,700 cocaine, Again, he he used these drugs as lures, just like 336 00:23:56,700 --> 00:24:01,900 Gilbert used alcohol as a lure. These women were heavy Drinkers 337 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:05,800 and alcohol was their primary substance of choice. 338 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,400 So therefore he offered booze Willie picked and offered crack 339 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:14,200 cocaine heroin and, and things like that to lure the women to 340 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,800 his disgusting pig farm to murder them. 341 00:24:16,900 --> 00:24:20,700 So again, you see what I'm saying? 342 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:24,600 Here? Is that he He operated in plain 343 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,000 sight just like Willie Pickton and there are times even 344 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,100 overlap, right? When Willie Pickton was active, 345 00:24:32,100 --> 00:24:36,000 also Gilbert. Jordan was a was very active. 346 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,800 So there's usually multiple Predators at any given time 347 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:46,000 operating in the downtown Eastside because it is a primary 348 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,500 hunting ground for sexual deviance and predators because 349 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:55,000 again, you spend any time there You realize right away the 350 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:59,400 desperation, the addiction, the mental health issues, the 351 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:06,100 poverty is Rife for creeps and predators to work openly to 352 00:25:06,100 --> 00:25:11,000 Target women and primary again. As I said indigenous, women are 353 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,800 primary the targets of these creeps that go into the 354 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,600 downtown, Eastside to Target women. 355 00:25:18,500 --> 00:25:21,900 So let's get into Gilbert Jordan. 356 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:29,100 A known, sexual predator. Serial killer the downtown east 357 00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:36,700 Vancouver? He operated from 1960s to 2006. 358 00:25:37,300 --> 00:25:40,500 So, Gilbert, Jordan aka the boozing Barber. 359 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:49,000 Jordan was born Gilbert Paul SC in Vancouver Canada. 360 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:54,400 December 12, 1931. He was a high school dropout 361 00:25:54,400 --> 00:26:00,900 Alcoholic by age 18 by 1952 his criminal record included, theft, 362 00:26:00,900 --> 00:26:03,900 assault auto theft and heroin possession. 363 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:09,500 This alcoholic Barber was linked to the deaths of 10 different 364 00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:13,800 indigenous women. Gilbert was the first Canadian 365 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,000 known to use alcohol as his murder weapon. 366 00:26:17,500 --> 00:26:20,400 His victims were First Nations women who lived in east 367 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Vancouver and the downtown Eastside. 368 00:26:22,900 --> 00:26:26,900 Jordan was a heavy drinker, drinking upwards of 50 ounces of 369 00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:32,000 vodka every day and a regular in the dive bars along Hastings 370 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:36,700 Street in east Vancouver. Like I said, many times already 371 00:26:37,100 --> 00:26:41,100 Gilbert Jordan was short and chubby bald head. 372 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,000 Thick black-rimmed glasses with his Meek appearance, he would 373 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:49,200 offer money to women to drink or have sex with him. 374 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,400 He plied her with lots of free flowing. 375 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,600 No alcohol in his barber shop or a hotel room. 376 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,500 That he rented. He would offer more money if she 377 00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:01,000 could chug straight liquor out of the bottle, when she passed 378 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,000 out, he forced more alcohol down her throat and sexually 379 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,000 assaulted her. As she was passed out or even 380 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,200 dying. He basically was He disgusting, 381 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,600 like he would, literally almost like waterboard them with, with 382 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,300 bottles of vodka, like pouring alcohol down their throats. 383 00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:23,400 So, he was quoting. The saying, the following 384 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:27,100 statement sober, people wouldn't go out with me. 385 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,700 So, I didn't have many options, he explained during this trial, 386 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,200 he didn't want a drink in his room all by himself, or they're 387 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,300 all on, they were all on their last legs. 388 00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:41,800 He coolly told the Vancouver reporter in Thousand. 389 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,800 I didn't give a damn who I was drinking with I mean we're all 390 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,600 dying sooner or later. So Jordan had no empathy and had 391 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,100 zero regard like most Predators for his victims. 392 00:27:55,300 --> 00:28:00,200 Jordan learned the barber trade during one of his many stints in 393 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,700 prison, he owned the slow can Barbershop on Kingsway Street. 394 00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:07,500 It is now a dance ballerina shop. 395 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,800 According to a statement, he paid for sex with over 200 women 396 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,400 a year most of the deaths were declared accidental overdoses of 397 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,000 alcohol. Even though Jordan was with them 398 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,100 at the time of his death, he reported many of those deaths 399 00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:26,500 himself. The victims were indigenous 400 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,500 women, who suffered from alcoholism. 401 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:33,400 So again, he would, when they'd wake up, the women would be dead 402 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,700 naked in bed with him. And a lot of times, he would 403 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:40,600 call the The police or he would call his lawyer first and the 404 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:45,900 lawyer would make a nominee as police report to the Vancouver 405 00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:51,000 Police talking though, in 1961. So we're going to go into his 406 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:57,800 criminal history and 1961. He was arrested for kidnapping a 407 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,600 five-year-old child that indigenous girl, from a reserve 408 00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:06,800 near Mission BC, which is approximately, I would say about 409 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,000 an hour, an hour and a half, Drive from downtown Vancouver, 410 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,200 Vancouver Police Officers noticed, a suspicious car, 411 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,100 parked on the side of the road, they pulled Jordan over, and 412 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:21,700 they peered inside to see a 29 year old Gilbert with a 413 00:29:21,700 --> 00:29:27,400 five-year-old indigenous. Girl, he kidnapped her May of 414 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:32,300 1961 all charges were dropped a stay of proceedings. 415 00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:35,700 So again, I explain to stare proceeding in the last podcast 416 00:29:35,700 --> 00:29:37,100 but I'll explain it. One more time. 417 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:41,900 Charges are stayed when a judge or a crown decides that it would 418 00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:45,800 be bad for the justice system. For the case to continue, this 419 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:50,400 means the issue of guilt or innocence is never determined 420 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:54,800 stays can be granted when the state has acted unfairly or 421 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,100 including failure to bring. Bring the case to trial in 422 00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:05,300 timely manner. January 5th, 1963, theft, and 423 00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:09,000 sexual assault. Jordan, lured, two women into 424 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,500 his car with an invitation to drink and party with them. 425 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:16,000 He picked up to First Nations women from a bar in the downtown 426 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,800 Eastside to drink with them, they drove to Cole Harbour by 427 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,600 Stanley Park. And when one stepped out of the 428 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:27,900 car to smoke a cigarette, Jordan drove off leaving her stranded 429 00:30:27,900 --> 00:30:31,200 with her purse in the car, he drove the other To North 430 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,100 Vancouver, Jordan sexually assaulted that woman, the police 431 00:30:36,100 --> 00:30:38,600 charged him with sexual assault and theft. 432 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,500 He was convicted on the theft charge but acquitted on the 433 00:30:42,500 --> 00:30:45,700 sexual assault Christmas of that year. 434 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,400 Heavily inebriated. He threatens to jump off a 435 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,900 bridge at Lions Gate Bridge. Jordan's longtime criminal 436 00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:56,000 defense, lawyer was called to talk him down off the bridge 437 00:30:56,500 --> 00:31:00,600 cause a big traffic jam and a lot of commotion. 438 00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:04,400 Ian Jordan was found in contempt of court in North Vancouver 439 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:09,400 Force looting a Nazi style. Hitler salute sieg heil he 440 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,900 yelled out at the judge in the courtroom judges weren't too 441 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,600 happy about that. The judge wasn't too happy about 442 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,300 that charged with contempt of court. 443 00:31:18,100 --> 00:31:23,500 April 28, 1965 one of his first alcohol. 444 00:31:23,500 --> 00:31:27,200 Poisoned victims. A telephone switchboard operator 445 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:33,900 named ivy rose, Oswald her Nude body was found in a hotel room 446 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:36,900 on the east side of Vancouver IV Rose. 447 00:31:36,900 --> 00:31:41,100 Death was considered accidental, even though her blood levels 448 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:48,200 were through the roof at a 0.59 she was seen in the company of 449 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,700 Gilbert all night. Her murder was just the 450 00:31:51,700 --> 00:31:56,300 beginning of a series of killing for which Jordan always eluded 451 00:31:56,300 --> 00:31:59,100 punishment. A few days after the murder 452 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,300 Gilbert. Paul SE applied to change his 453 00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:07,500 name to Gilbert Paul Jordan and it was approved. 454 00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:12,200 So, he did this to avoid detection with future encounters 455 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:15,100 with the police. So when he would hand his ID or 456 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,600 be pulled over for his numerous drinking and driving charges, 457 00:32:18,700 --> 00:32:21,300 they wouldn't tie them to previous murders. 458 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:26,400 So 1971, Vancouver BC committed, an indecent act in a public 459 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,400 place charges, which stayed Up in Mackenzie BC, which is in the 460 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:36,500 northern part of the province. He was convicted for indecent 461 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:42,800 exposure, 1974 Prince, George BC, convicted of indecent 462 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:46,700 assault, sentenced to two years less a day, which came to a 463 00:32:46,708 --> 00:32:53,100 sentence of just two years. In prison, Crown Council, wanted 464 00:32:53,100 --> 00:32:56,800 him declared as a dangerous sex offender upon his release in 465 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,900 1976. The crown try to have him 466 00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:04,700 declared as a dangerous offender but Jordans lawyer intervene in 467 00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:10,500 the request was denied and 1976, Jordan was examined by a 468 00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:14,700 friend's ex I Kaya trust dr. Tibor beza, ready. 469 00:33:14,700 --> 00:33:17,200 As part of a court proceeding dr. 470 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,000 Besser Eddie diagnosed Jordan of having an antisocial personality 471 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:29,100 disorder and defined as a person whose conduct is maladjusted. 472 00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:35,100 In terms of social behavior, has very little disregard for the 473 00:33:35,100 --> 00:33:38,300 rights of others. And which often can result in 474 00:33:38,300 --> 00:33:43,000 unlawful activities, Jordan learned his Barber trade while 475 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,600 in prison and he opened the slow can Barbershop on Kingsway 476 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:53,200 Street, Jordan inherited a sum of money and even though he 477 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,200 looked like an alcoholic to shoveled Barber, he was actually 478 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,600 quite Savvy in the stock. Good. 479 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:03,400 And he made a lot of money through Savvy stock Investments 480 00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:08,900 with the inheritance and the money he made through picking 481 00:34:08,900 --> 00:34:12,600 the right stocks. He could afford the very best of 482 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:16,900 criminal lawyers and this kept him out of jail. 483 00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:21,900 A lot of the time and also most importantly, prevented him from 484 00:34:21,900 --> 00:34:25,199 being declared a dangerous offender, which he could have 485 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:28,199 been locked up indefinitely and it would have saved a lot of 486 00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:34,699 people's lives as As we will continue, so 1975 the boozing 487 00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:38,600 Barbers back on the street. This time, he had ducted a woman 488 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,000 from the mental institution. Riverview the police charge them 489 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:47,900 on several counts, including kidnapping, and sexual 490 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:50,800 intercourse with a feeble minded person. 491 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:54,100 That was a law back in the day. I don't know if it's still on 492 00:34:54,100 --> 00:34:58,300 the books, but yes, he got convicted for having sexual 493 00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:01,200 intercourse. With a feeble minded person. 494 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:06,400 He was sentenced to 26 months for assault Court proceeding. 495 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,500 Showed he saw it out, approximately 200, women per 496 00:35:11,500 --> 00:35:16,100 year, for sex, for binge drinking episodes and this 497 00:35:16,100 --> 00:35:20,200 period covered from 1980 to 1988. 498 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:27,100 Further the crown provided evidence that Jordan was linked 499 00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:30,400 to the deaths of six. Other First Nations, women 500 00:35:30,700 --> 00:35:35,200 similar facts of evidence showed that Jordan has been. 501 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:42,500 So Crown, Jordan was with the following women at the time of 502 00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:47,500 their death. First Mary Johnson, November 503 00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:56,000 30th 1980 At the Elmer Hotel, her blood level was Point 34. 504 00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:06,600 So, typically 0.8 is the illegal limit if you're driving and 505 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:10,300 that's roughly, give or take how much you weigh and how much she 506 00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:14,900 space out your alcoholic drinks on average. 507 00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:16,700 I would make about four or five drinks. 508 00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:20,100 So, if you had four or five drinks and went behind the wheel 509 00:36:20,100 --> 00:36:24,500 of the car, you'd blow over and you'd be charged with impaired 510 00:36:24,500 --> 00:36:27,700 driving. So, Mary Johnson had a blood 511 00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:33,300 level of 30. For so 08 would get you arrested 512 00:36:33,300 --> 00:36:37,300 for drinking driving. She died because her blood level 513 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:46,000 was 34 Barbara Paul September 11th, 1981 at the Glen nerd 514 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,200 Hotel. Her blood level was point for 515 00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:56,300 one. Mary John's July 30th 1982 at 516 00:36:56,300 --> 00:37:02,200 the toot at sorry at the 03 Kingsway barbershop. 517 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,600 That's his Barbershop is Barber Shop was located at 2503. 518 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,700 Kingsway. It's now a ballerina school and 519 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:15,800 she was found dead in his Barbershop with a blood level of 520 00:37:16,300 --> 00:37:21,400 .76. Patricia Thompson, December 521 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:27,300 15th, 1984 at his King way. Barbershop once again, her blood 522 00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:37,400 level was point. 51 Patricia Andrews June 28th 1985 again at 523 00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,700 his King way. Kingsway Barbershop her blood 524 00:37:40,700 --> 00:37:48,500 level was point. Seven, nine Vera Harry, November 525 00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:54,000 19th. 1986 at the Clinton Clifton Hotel. 526 00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:06,000 Blood alcohol level zero. Sorry .04, one again, at as this 527 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:13,200 at his Barbershop 3 women died between July 1982 and June of 528 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:16,300 85. Although Jordan reported the 529 00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:18,200 deaths after Consulting his lawyer. 530 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:23,000 He escaped investigation. When the coroner ruled, all 531 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:29,600 three accidental deaths by alcohol poisoning The victims 532 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:35,500 were known alcoholics and sex workers, and at high risk, for 533 00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:39,100 such fate. According to them, Jordan did 534 00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:43,900 come under suspicion. In 1987, he spent the night of 535 00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:48,800 October 11th drinking with a female companion at the Niagara 536 00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:54,100 hotel room in Vancouver, several times, Jordan went out to buy 537 00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:58,500 more booze and at 6 a.m. October 12th he left. 538 00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:04,600 Hotel for the last time at 7:40 a.m. police received an 539 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:09,400 anonymous phone call in the room at the Niagara hotel. 540 00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:13,900 They found the naked body of Vanessa Lee Buckner who is age. 541 00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:20,500 27 Buckner sometimes worked as a sexual as a sex worker part-time 542 00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:24,600 and she was known for being a moderate Drinker. 543 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:29,800 Her blood level was a staggering. .91. 544 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:36,800 So again, if 0.8 makes it illegal for you to drive and 545 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,400 you'll most have one percent alcohol in your blood. 546 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:45,200 As I said, he basically waterboarded these women with 547 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:51,500 alcohol during the trial, the court would hear Jordan poisoned 548 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:56,900 her sexually assaulted her, left her to die, as black fluid 549 00:39:56,900 --> 00:40:00,800 oozed, out of her mouth and nose, the father of the victim 550 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,700 expressed his outrage. When the case went to trial. 551 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,600 He's a worm, he said in an interview with the Toronto Sun, 552 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,200 he's a lowlife, he should be squashed just as he squashed, a 553 00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:17,900 lot of girls lives. Court, documents described 554 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,900 Vanessa's death. As a result of Jordan supplying, 555 00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:26,500 a lethal amount of liquor Who died as a result. 556 00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:31,100 Jordan's fingerprints were also found in a room and linked to 557 00:40:31,100 --> 00:40:36,300 Buckner's death. 11 days later. Another woman Edna shade was 558 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:39,800 found dead and another hotel room for 11 days. 559 00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:46,000 Police watch Jordan, during that time, during that time, Jordan 560 00:40:46,500 --> 00:40:50,800 took for intended victims to hotel rooms in the Vancouver, 561 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:55,300 downtown Eastside, High each time, pull Police entrusted. 562 00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:59,800 The drinking binges after being questioned, Jordan, had not been 563 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,600 charged with any crimes related to Buckner's death. 564 00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:10,500 Police initiated surveillance on Jordan October 12 and November 565 00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:16,100 26. 1987 police watched him search out indigenous women at 566 00:41:16,100 --> 00:41:22,400 downtown Eastside, police would rescue the women before she or 567 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:27,100 they would become guilty. Jordan's next victims, these 568 00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:32,300 women were Rosemary Wilson, November 20th, 1987 at the 569 00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:39,700 Balmoral Hotel, blood levels, 5.2 Verna chart Finland. 570 00:41:40,100 --> 00:41:45,800 November 21st, 1987 at the Pacific Hotel blood alcohol 571 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:55,000 levels were .43. Sheila Jo November 25th 1987 at 572 00:41:55,000 --> 00:42:00,100 the Rainbow hotel. Blood levels were unknown Mabel 573 00:42:00,100 --> 00:42:05,200 Olson. November 26 1987 at the Pacific 574 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:10,200 Hotel blood levels unknown two of the women had blood levels 575 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:19,100 between 0.5 to and 0.53 police arrested the boozing Barber as 576 00:42:19,100 --> 00:42:23,900 he was poisoning, his latest Tempted victims, she had lost 577 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:26,300 Consciousness. When the police entered the 578 00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:28,800 room. Jordan was laying on top of her. 579 00:42:28,900 --> 00:42:33,800 Forcing, the contents of a large bottle of vodka down her throat. 580 00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:37,700 Like I said, he basically used the Vodka as her passing out and 581 00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:40,300 he was like waterboarding, this pouring it right into their 582 00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:42,600 mouth as they were trying to breathe. 583 00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:48,100 What's interesting too. That there was a show in 584 00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:54,700 Vancouver based on cases. That are were historic in 585 00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:58,700 Vancouver, was called DaVinci's inquest, and they did a boozing. 586 00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:03,800 Barber episode to Vinci's Inquest is based on real life 587 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:08,000 character. He was a, the former mayor of 588 00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,100 Vancouver's name is Larry Campbell and he was a mayor of 589 00:43:12,107 --> 00:43:14,600 Vancouver. He was an RCMP officer and then 590 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,100 he became a corner. So this series was based on his 591 00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:23,300 life and, and they would use like Cases that were in the 592 00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:26,700 media and the headlines of newspapers and they would 593 00:43:26,700 --> 00:43:30,200 incorporate and to the show. So they had a boozing Barber 594 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,700 episode. And in the episode, they show 595 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:37,100 the scene where the police come in as he's under surveillance 596 00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:40,300 and hesus forcing booze down their throat. 597 00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:44,300 Like he would, he would really try to get them really hyped up 598 00:43:44,300 --> 00:43:49,100 to drink, like he would really offer them here. 20 bucks to 599 00:43:49,100 --> 00:43:52,500 another shot 50 bucks for another shot here. 100 bucks 600 00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:56,500 down the down the whole bottle. And and again you got to 601 00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:59,600 remember these women were marginalized desperate for 602 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,700 money. And and so here's a guys 603 00:44:02,700 --> 00:44:06,100 offering them hundreds of dollars to drink alcohol, right? 604 00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:10,400 So it was so for these women that were marginalized in the 605 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:15,300 downtown Eastside alcoholics, you know, it was too tempting 606 00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:18,800 and as I get it, they get more inebriated more need rated, he 607 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:21,500 became more and more forceful with the booze. 608 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,700 Ooh, so police investigators believed that he was linked to 609 00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:31,000 about 10 deaths of different women that they know about. 610 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,700 So there are probably a lot more again because this guy was a 611 00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:42,300 very active Predator, reaching out and searching out over 200 612 00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:46,100 women a year that he would pay to have sex with forcing booze 613 00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:48,700 on them. There's probably a lot more 614 00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:50,800 victims, right? If you just do the number so 615 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,900 they can they I think that there's 10 for sure that he was 616 00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:57,500 with them at the time of their death known for giving them 617 00:44:57,500 --> 00:45:03,100 booze and and all that. So he was charged for seven 618 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:10,900 deaths but he was convicted only in the deaths of Vanessa, Lee 619 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:16,400 Buckner he received 15 years for manslaughter but again because 620 00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,100 he could afford the very best and legal defenses, and lawyers 621 00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:23,800 because he had the means. And Money on appeal, Jordan 622 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,100 succeeded, in reducing his sentence 29 years but only 623 00:45:28,100 --> 00:45:31,500 served six and reducing the sentence. 624 00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:40,600 Justice Sam toy wrote although the appellant has left a trail 625 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,700 of seven victims. The last was the first occasion 626 00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:50,900 when a person in Authority in a forceful and a realistic manner. 627 00:45:51,700 --> 00:45:56,500 Not to the appellants attention. The fact that supplying a 628 00:45:56,500 --> 00:46:01,700 substantial quantities of liquor to women who are prepared to 629 00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:06,500 drink with him was a contributing cause of their 630 00:46:06,500 --> 00:46:12,700 deaths for which he might be held criminally responsible. 631 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:18,600 This similar fact, evidence was important in the 1988 trial when 632 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:24,700 Jordan was tried before a judge alone Justice Brock found Jordan 633 00:46:24,700 --> 00:46:28,500 guilty of manslaughter in the deaths of Buckner. 634 00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:32,000 He was sentenced to 15 years in prison. 635 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,400 And like I said, it was reduced down to nine. 636 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,400 He serves 64 manslaughter connection, and on his 637 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,500 conviction, after his release, he was placed on probation, 638 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:47,100 which restricted him to Vancouver Island, which he moved 639 00:46:47,100 --> 00:46:50,900 after he was let out of prison. In June of 2000. 640 00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:56,000 He has been charged with sexual assault, assault negligence 641 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,600 causing bodily harm, and administrating. 642 00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:03,100 A noxious substance alcohol in 2000. 643 00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:09,500 Jordan attempted to change his name to Paul Pierce at the time. 644 00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:13,000 A name change in British Columbia did not require 645 00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,500 fingerprinting or a criminal record checked after the 646 00:47:16,500 --> 00:47:20,000 loophole was closed. He dropped the application. 647 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,600 So again, he'd kept changing Aging his name. 648 00:47:22,700 --> 00:47:25,900 So when he was out being a predator, it would help him. 649 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,500 Elude detection. Jordan again was arrested in 650 00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:34,600 2002, for breach of probation, because he was found drinking in 651 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,300 the presence of a woman while in possession of alcohol against 652 00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:43,400 his, his conditions. He was found guilty and 653 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:47,300 sentenced to 15 months in jail. Following three years of 654 00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:49,000 probation with strict conditions. 655 00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:56,700 However On August 11th, 2004. He was arrested in Winnipeg for 656 00:47:56,700 --> 00:48:00,200 violating. His probation order for an 657 00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,800 incident at the York hotel and Swift Current Saskatchewan. 658 00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:12,700 August 9th 2004, he has been identified as being a party to 659 00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:15,900 binge drinking with Barb Buckley. 660 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,100 Buckley was a long-term resident of the hotel who had a serious 661 00:48:20,100 --> 00:48:22,700 drinking problem. Buckley was taken to the 662 00:48:22,700 --> 00:48:28,200 hospital by her friend and hotel employee after finding Buckley 663 00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,600 in very bad condition. He, he was identified. 664 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,800 Jordan, was identified as being there, but of course, he was 665 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,800 acquitted of those charges in 2005 upon his release police 666 00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:47,000 issued a public warning. On February 3rd, 2005, the 667 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,000 Saanich Police Department issued Alert warning, the public to be 668 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:56,600 cautious of a recently released Jordan, and this is what they 669 00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,800 wrote. Jordan Gilbert Paul age. 73 670 00:49:00,900 --> 00:49:12,200 subject of this alert. Jordan Jordan is 59 ways. 174 671 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,800 pounds, he's partially bald with gray hair and a gray. 672 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,400 Goatee has blue eyes were thick glasses. 673 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:21,600 Jordan is currently in the Victoria BC area and has no 674 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:22,600 fixed. Address. 675 00:49:22,900 --> 00:49:25,800 Jordan has a significant criminal record, including 676 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,200 manslaughter indecent assault of a female. 677 00:49:29,300 --> 00:49:32,000 He uses alcohol to lure his victims. 678 00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:34,900 Jordan's Target. Victim groups is adult. 679 00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:37,400 Females. Jordan is subject to court 680 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:39,800 orders. Additions, including abstain 681 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,100 absolutely from the consumption of alcohol. 682 00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:46,400 Not to be in the company of any female person or persons. 683 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:50,300 And any place where alcohol is be either being consumed or 684 00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:53,700 possessed by that person or persons. 685 00:49:53,900 --> 00:49:58,200 If You observe this subject and violations of the above 686 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:03,500 conditions, please call Saanich to Police Department. 911, so 687 00:50:03,500 --> 00:50:08,800 talking about serial killers, And the reign of terror. 688 00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:16,400 So basically, from early 1960s to, right to the very end when 689 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,900 he finally died in 2006, this guy went on a reign of terror 690 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:26,600 and, you know, he was very, very deceptive moving from different 691 00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,200 jurisdictions changing his name, using the law, losing the 692 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:37,300 lawyers to basically, get away with all his monstrous crimes. 693 00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:41,100 He was comfortable drinking. He was able to learn For them. 694 00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:46,500 And to an isolated area to like a hotel room or his Barbershop, 695 00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:50,100 get them completely loaded to sexually, assault them, and to 696 00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:54,600 ultimately murder them. And he got away with it more 697 00:50:54,600 --> 00:51:00,100 times than we can possibly know. We can again, tie them to about 698 00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:03,700 10 deaths, and I pretty sure there's probably a lot more, you 699 00:51:03,700 --> 00:51:06,400 know, there's probably a lot more women that he murdered 700 00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,100 because he didn't stop you. You look at these numbers. 701 00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:17,800 Every opportunity that he had to get a woman drunk and murder 702 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,900 them. He would take that opportunity, 703 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:26,900 no matter what kind of parole conditions, or even under police 704 00:51:26,900 --> 00:51:30,100 surveillance, he's getting women drunk and trying to murder them. 705 00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:33,800 So, again, this kind of sheds, light into the system, the 706 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,800 system try to declare him a dangerous offender that could 707 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,400 have locked him up in differently. 708 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:45,400 Finally, he dies in Insects may, he rot in hell and I I want to 709 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:50,600 say my condolences to all the women that he murdered and died 710 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:56,300 at his hands and I want to offer all the family and loved ones my 711 00:51:56,300 --> 00:52:01,200 sincerest condolences I'm so sorry that this monster has 712 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,000 caused your family pain and Trauma. 713 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,800 I'm going to continue on with this series and part three of 714 00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:10,500 The Stolen Sisters of East Vancouver. 715 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,900 Vancouver. We're going to start stepping 716 00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:18,400 into the realm of. Robert Pickton, which is 717 00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:23,800 Canada's, probably Canada's worst serial killer far as 718 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:27,700 number scale horror and depravity. 719 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,100 And for amount of time that it was allowed to take place. 720 00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:38,500 So it's a, it's a massive story, it's a massive undertaking and 721 00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:40,600 it will be multiple Parts as well. 722 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:46,100 I'll Again, thank you for all the support podcast is doing 723 00:52:46,100 --> 00:52:49,800 amazing on multiple podcast platforms. 724 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,200 It's making some pretty decent ad revenue on some of the 725 00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:56,000 podcast platforms. I'll be starting a patreon 726 00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:01,100 account to help, you know, raise some revenue. 727 00:53:01,100 --> 00:53:04,700 And in the that Revenue, I raise, I'm going to be start 728 00:53:04,700 --> 00:53:08,800 doing a documentary series video series. 729 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,200 It's something I planned from the very beginning. 730 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:13,100 I make, Excited. I'm working on some 731 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:17,500 sponsorships, I will be keep on expanding on the different 732 00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:20,500 social media platforms and numbers on Instagram. 733 00:53:20,500 --> 00:53:26,700 Facebook various podcast platforms like Spotify, iTunes. 734 00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:30,800 Google Apple podcasts are doing extremely well. 735 00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,600 Very happy. Very pleased with the reception. 736 00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:38,300 And like I said, I'll be starting a patreon account to 737 00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:41,200 start selling memberships to help fund. 738 00:53:41,900 --> 00:53:45,000 Some documentary series. Like for example I want to do a 739 00:53:45,008 --> 00:53:48,600 highway of Tears documentary. I know the area quite well I've 740 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,600 travelled up there quite a bit and I think it's important to 741 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,300 show the scale and the geographic location of the 742 00:53:55,300 --> 00:53:58,100 highway of Tears. For the person to really feel 743 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:02,100 the true horror of that situation, I'll be doing 744 00:54:02,100 --> 00:54:05,400 documentary series. Also a farm in the downtown 745 00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:10,000 Eastside showing the different, the actual environment, till you 746 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,300 see the environment or what it's Like you can't really truly get 747 00:54:13,300 --> 00:54:17,200 an understanding of the horror of their plus, some missing 748 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,200 person cases that I've been following for quite a long time. 749 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:26,200 I think it's important to, to show from the viewer point of 750 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:33,200 view of of what of the location and and the the the shear 751 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:39,500 mind-boggling, when these people go missing and how there's 752 00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:41,700 absolutely they disappear without. 753 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:47,000 Trace and there's no logical explanation for why so many 754 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,700 people and British Columbia go missing Without a Trace. 755 00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:52,400 And we'll be breaking that down soon. 756 00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:57,800 So extremely excited to make these projects come alive. 757 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,600 I couldn't do it without your support and help and the support 758 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:06,500 and help has been truly amazing. And it allows me to put so much 759 00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,500 more effort and work into this platform. 760 00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:14,100 I'm really making an effort to Try my best to have a weekly 761 00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:16,300 podcast. I've done a lot of writing, so I 762 00:55:16,308 --> 00:55:21,300 have the material before one of the issues that I was having is 763 00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:26,600 when I do the amount of research that I do, I can't do a podcast 764 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,700 because I'm doing research, or I'm doing writing and not doing. 765 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:33,600 If I'm not writing, I'm not doing the podcast, and, and vice 766 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:35,800 a versa. So, I've done a quite a lot of 767 00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,300 writing, so I have a lot of material in the pipeline. 768 00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:43,300 The, the podcast I get asked about A lot when they don't put 769 00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:48,100 them out regularly. My DMs get constantly filled 770 00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:49,800 with inquires when's the next podcast? 771 00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:53,500 I'm very happy and very honored and pleased that people like 772 00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:57,800 listening to me telling my crime stories and telling my 773 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:03,300 perspective of crime and true crime in the city of Vancouver 774 00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:07,100 and the province of British Columbia, it's been really 775 00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:08,700 amazing. I've talked to many people 776 00:56:08,700 --> 00:56:14,000 around the world and many people are Aided by what's going on in 777 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:18,600 British Columbia and in Vancouver Canada, with the 778 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:25,500 levels of missing persons serial killers and the strange cases, 779 00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:27,500 you know, there's a lot of strange cases, like, I was just 780 00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:31,200 saying earlier, I could make a podcast every week for the next 781 00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:34,100 decade and I could barely scratch the surface for the 782 00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:40,000 amount of amazing strange. Mysterious, and heartbreaking 783 00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:44,700 stories that have taken Taken place over the many many decades 784 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000 here. So again, thank you so much. 785 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,100 I'm Mark, I'm the host the show Vancouver. 786 00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:52,800 True Crime, please add me on Instagram on Vancouver. 787 00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,000 True Crime, send me a message of what you like, what you don't 788 00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,500 like. I'm always happy to talk to you. 789 00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:01,000 Thank you so much. Have a wonderful day, take care.