How you went from a tough St. kid to being a serious gangster
when? I first started working the gas
works so that, you know, I was just 17 years old.
I was even age to work there that you know, it's like I said
it's pumping weights and you know, I was had some stairways
that he was a strong looking guy and I was a tough kid.
I've always was a tough kid. But now working in the gas work,
I was in a man's world. I felt that I had to prove
myself. The proving ground, that was a
place to prove myself. It was a true proving ground,
thriving in a very shark and fasted environment.
Yeah, exactly. I, you know, I had to prove
myself and I felt I had to prove myself and I had many of
opportunities to do so. And and each one I did, I
always, I came out on top because you couldn't lose.
You just couldn't lose. So anyways, yeah, I became, you
know, each day I got stronger and stronger.
And when I met Eddie and started hanging out with Eddie, you
know, I started started taking me to the Boston club.
Now I was getting skilled. So now I was, you know, becoming
a sharpshooter, You know what I mean?
Now I knew where to hit and how to hit, how to use my body
weight. And you know, I was good.
How many days a week would you be training and boxing at this
stage? I'd be training.
It's seven days a week and I'd be running every day.
So yeah man it was it was every day every day and now and every
day no rest. I I never rested like you know
I'm weightlifting would have a day off and couple of now I'm
boxing. I I was young I always said you
don't care that and there was no such thing as rest for me about.
I just ran and ran and I trained every.
Hey, and that's why it became good so quick.
So you were getting the reputation as a tough guy,
right? You're getting the attention of
important people, mobster gangsters, pro boxers like Eddie
Mellow. You told me about a situation.
This is when you were still working at the Gas Works you
had. You gave two men a very serious
beat down. Maybe like breakdown, that
story. Yeah.
Well, yeah, I was taking, you know, at the gas works, you
know, do you have a, you had a. A lot of the crowd there that
you know, you had all kinds of people.
You had working girls there, you had drug dealers there, you had
clientele, good clientele, people that come in after work
to drink and party, you know, on the weekends to come listen to
the band. So you had a variety of people
there anyways, you know, and and the wrinklers, a lot of them
were working girls, you know, they come in there, they eat
food and I thought to know them and I, you know, I they were my
friends and a lot of, you know, I was young then.
A lot of girls I slept with. So you know we I got to know
them and I became I was their protector.
Anyways, there was one girl, her name was Linda and we became
very close and she used to give me money, you know she used to
make a lot of money and she used to help me out.
She used to still for taking care of her, you know, I saw I,
you know she was shoot me when I wasn't a damn place.
Just took care of him. So anyways, one day.
She said she was going out and, you know, she would check in
the, you know, say I'll be back at a certain time.
Well, she didn't come back this certain time.
You know, the club closed by at 2:30.
The doors are closed. You know, the doors are closed.
I go home. You know, it's the bars finished
at 2:00 in the morning. So anyway, they don't hear from
her. No phone call.
I go to sleep at home. I come back next day at working
or at working time and today. Oh, nine, 10:00.
Here she comes. I was.
Where were you? I've been worried sick about
you. And she said she's all, like,
all messed up. She says, David, these guys at
the hotel had me hostage. I said what she says, Yeah, I
just got out now from this hotel room.
They they they raped me for all this time.
And I livid. Oh, yeah, I was livid.
So I go to the big man. His name was Pete.
As a Pete, I got to take off for an hour.
You mind buddy? It was not big guys.
You go ahead. So I grabbed a friend of mine,
all mental name. I grabbed the first come with me
and watch my back, He says, Yeah, yeah.
So we go to the hotel like so before.
So she starts to tell the girl, take me to the.
She takes me to the hotel. So I said, now you knock on that
door and then when they ask you who it is, say it's you and you
forgot something there. So she says.
All right. So before he he did that I saw
me and my buddy he hit behind this one sided door and I hit on
one side of the door because of the people.
So she knocks on the door and she go, it's me and Linda, I I
forgot something so the door opens right away and they kind
of opened her. It was like crazy.
Said you're all your back and they wanted to grab her.
Instead we I kicked that door and so.
Yeah, yeah, you know I seen buddy.
I I no talking, no nothing because the story is already
told to me. So I just start beating on this
guy. The first guy I see, I just
start beating on him and my buddy he just he ran in behind
me and grabbed the other guy and start beating on him.
So this guy I'm beating on him I, you know I looked at him he
he was told so I am not going to hit him anymore.
I think I was going to kill him. So I just left him alone.
So now the guy that was still still coherent.
I tell him on our way out, you know, give us the money.
Give her the money that you owe her and if you say anything
about anything you know you're you're we're going to get your
ass because we before we left, we had our it we had everything
on them, right. So anyways, a couple of days
later, you know, like I said, we have I have a report with these
working girls. They come to me to date.
There's a couple of guys from Buffalo and they're looking for
you. They want to kill you.
So what I said we're talking about she go through you.
You you had a fight with somebody in a hotel.
And I said, Oh yeah, what up? Yeah.
And I'd explain to the girls what happened.
I said, she says, Oh yeah, the guy's in a coma.
Oh my God. And they're saying that you went
in there and you robbed them and you beat them.
There was a rip off and what? So anyway, to make a Long story
short, this guy that was coherent, he like these two guys
were here on in on business. I'm not going to stay with city
or anything. They were on, they were, they
were on business. And these two guys were supposed
to go to a racetrack. They had information, you know,
dealing this of these guys were connected with them up and they
had, you know, setting up races and this and that and they
couldn't do it. And now a lot of them.
A lot of money is wasted and a lot of people are.
And this guy and this guy who was still coherent, he's the
blind making himself look good, you know.
You know, he didn't tell him the truth.
We had a guy, we had this girl hostage.
We raped her and he didn't say that.
No, you made another story up that say we came in there and
robbed. It was just a ripoff.
Yeah, but then, but the good thing is about a week later, the
guy that was to Nicole up, he came to.
And this and this guy was solid, man.
He told the he told the the people that were involved that
would actually happened. And then yeah.
So the heat was off of me. Thank God.
Yeah man, I was because I was nobody really.
I mean I was just a tough young kid.
I had friends but I wasn't connected, connected back
totally. Yeah, so you know, the girls
had, they loved me because I took care of them and.
And they knew the situation. And I know I I was in that kind
of a person. And so they took care of me.
They didn't tell those people that you, no matter how much
money they offered the girls, they didn't tell them who I was.
Wow. Well, that's amazing.
Yeah, man, that was amazing. One of the things that you were
talking about we're we're having you know talking about you know
your your past and your your story is also you had a
reputation for being extremely ruthless.
I remember you told me the story about these dumb guys, try to
pick a fight with you. Then what?
What was the aftermath on that situation?
A bad day that day I was had a fight with argument with my that
time, my fiance, you know we were together for a while.
Anyways, I packed up that day and like you know I'm like
clothing and I had a couple of guns.
I threw them in my suitcase and. I called my buddy, he says, yo
man, I'm leaving, pick me up. And he couldn't pick me up, so I
had to make my way to his end of the town.
So I did. So I'm at the a bus stop in his
part of town. So I I I followed them.
I said I'm at this location, come pick me up.
I'm at bus stop, he says, all right, I'll be coming.
I'll be there in 10 to 15 minutes.
I said all right. So I just get off the phone.
I walk to where the bus stop is. It's not stretching in my leg,
so you know, I'm just stretching and waiting and he's too guy.
This car pulls up beside me and says that hey, fools don't kick
back. And I says hey, but I do.
And then they look like the men looking at me like it's on.
So they're moving slowly. And I knew ships want to happen
so as soon as they went around the corner.
I went into my suitcase and I pulled all the gun and I put it
in my waist pocket. So sure enough, to the car that
I parked the car. And here comes these two big
glooms. I said so, OK, dude, I said, you
want to do this? And he said, yeah, we're going
to do this. I said OK Hey, I said, I'll tell
you what I said, I don't want to beat you guys up here in the
public. Let's go somewhere right there.
There's a laneway over there. Let's go there so nobody can see
what's happening. Let's go do this, they said.
Yeah. OK, let's go.
So they walked. We walked into the lane.
We get into the laneway, I pull out a gun and I start blasting
one guy. Wow.
Three shelter. It's this guy.
The kneecap. Oh my God.
Blasting this guy, the other guy you can he just screaming for
it. Oh yeah.
God, I can imagine. But you know what?
As soon as I let out those shots into this guy's kneecap, it was
all that the tension was like, relieved, I felt.
It felt so good. Wow.
Yeah, it. Felt good, I said to the buddy
and like, you know, I, I my senses are, you know, I saw here
this is trouble. So I said to me, I said this
man. I said I got your license plate
number. I said you take your buddy, you
take him to the hospital now. And I said if anything happens
out of this, I'm coming for you. I said, you see how crazy I am
now? I said the next time I'll, I'll
kill you. Both of you guys.
Thank him and get out of here. Pulls him, takes him into his
car and they go. So now as soon as he goes, I go
to the bus stop and there comes my buddy and he sees me coming
out of laneway and he sees me putting my revolver in my pocket
and he says to me Mad Dog, what's going on.
I said buddy open that door and let's get out of here.
I just, Oh my God, Wow. Yeah, man.
Yeah, you just didn't. Just did not mess with me.
Because if I couldn't beat you with my hands, I was going to
stab you, shoot you with anything around me, forks,
anything I would use as weapons, whatever it took.
Whatever it took, whatever it took, I'd bite your throat, pull
your eyes out, Whatever I had to do to win.
To survive, Got a real bona fide gangster, Or would you?
So would they? So look at you like the top St.
kid. No, I was in.
I was a gangster. I was no one's a gangster now
cuz I now I had not being being my bodyguard.
No, I was. I was.
They knew I had connections now easiest that I did have
connections. I had big connections, right?
I had big I Colombian connections.
I had the Portuguese connections.
I had. I had the hookups, you know, I
had Eddie. And anyway, he had a Montreal
click, you know, and then I had to Toronto click.
I had, you know, I had two K2 Mobs families in Toronto.
So yeah, I was connected. I was connected big time because
of the the inner circle you're in.
You're getting direct conversations about more serious
stuff, hits and stuff. And then how are decisions made
for someone to be targeted, like how does that that process work
like that when they once it's decided?
You know, I, Mike would approach me if I was working with Mike or
the Colombians, but like what Mike would would approach me and
he would tell me like, listen, this is what I have.
Are you interested? You know when he would lay out
the scenario of what he had and the money involved?
And if I was interested, then, you know, I would.
I would study it and, you know, I would look at it just as a
flight. I would train for it.
You know, it'd be a mission. I I wouldn't just go and do it.
I would do my homework, right. You know, I'd take me a week, 10
days. You know, I'd mop by mop the
hit. And then when I was comfortable
then I go and do what I had you know I I trained myself to do
for that 10 or week you know and the decision was always yours it
was always like he he came down to your decision wasn't like you
have to do it or your your that that type of scenario.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only thing that I was
obligated for was protecting Mike at that time, right.
And I I had you know I has just if Mike somebody pull up a gun
or I had to protect. So that's my only obligation.
Anything other than that was freelancing, You know what I
mean? Yes.
So I was getting work from gang, you know, high end gangsters
that were up there and if I wanted the job, which, you know,
a lot of them I did and I took them, right?
And the opportunity there? The money was big and I took
them. He talked about a situation
about a rapist and a 12 year old girl who was a victim of this
creep and the parents were in a very bad situation, maybe
breakdown that situation. All that went down.
Like approached me one day and he's telling me about first of
all you sell me David, I want to tell you about this.
He says The money big, he says but with the situation is not
good and he wanted he would. He laid it out to me, he says.
If there's this family, that. The legal immigrants.
So, you know, they're not, they didn't have the green cards.
They've been in Canada for a while.
The guy's been working. He has a family.
He has a young girl and this other guy next door to him.
He's been raping the young girl. Yeah, he's been raping this
young girl and he's been. And they could have called the
police on the guy because he said you call the police, I'm
going to tell on you that you're you're, you're not the Canadian
citizen. And they send them back to his
country. Anyways, I guess enough was
enough, you know, for this guy who this neighborhood, everybody
knows everybody. And this guy said he must put
some money aside and he said to what Mrs. told Mike he says you
know what was happening to him and his family and like, so
yeah, let me go speak to somebody.
I think I know somebody that will take care of that for you.
So that's when he told me what, you know the scenario about this
guy. I says yeah yeah, that's how
much money he got. I think he's just he's got like
5 grand. So I'll take I says give me 25
right now, then 25 when the job's done, no problem.
So anyways, he gives me the information about this guy,
where he hangs out, where he lives, all I needed.
That's OK. So now I have my driver and now
I do. I stuck him.
I go see his house. I go see when he leaves his
house. I go see where he goes.
And then I see where I'm going to do it.
Eventually I know where I'm going to hit this guy.
So this particular place, he he he's he's in a place to where
there's a lot of people, you know, people come in and out.
So it's winter time. I got the, I got my jacket, I
got a scarf around my face and a hat on.
So, you know, you coming to, I go to the back door, nobody's
going to, no one's going to. Paying attention because it's
winter time, you know? So anyways, I, you know, I know
I had planned and I knew I was going to go into that place.
I knew how I was going to leave. I knew where I was going to,
where my car was going to be waiting for me.
So while I was comfortable, okay, I knew where he was going
to be, the time, everything. So that day came.
So I opened the door where I had to go in.
I saw him there and I pulled up. I pulled on.
I blast this guy. And as soon as I had this one,
it's one guy that just had two shells in it.
And as soon as that 2 shells go, the the people there saw that I
had there were shells. So you know, here they come,
they're ready to attack me. And I pull up another gun and
I'll stop them and did in their tracks like it's up to you.
You want to make the move come. And they did it.
So I just quietly went out that other door and I started running
to where my car was waiting. But I tell you this guy.
After he got out of the hospital, he left.
He he was no more. He he survived the hit.
I wasn't. I wasn't going to kill him.
Like, I just wanted to, you know, hurt him badly, triple
him, whatever. I didn't care.
I just wanted to put some shells into this guy and I, you know, I
have a 410. It's like a it's departure.
So, like birdshot. The bigger they had, the shells
I had were the first shot I had the.
Slugs in. OK, OK, I see what you're
saying. Yeah, right, Just to rip your
arm off. You know, I wasn't too close to
cause that much damage. But just enough damage, right?
But he got them. He got the message, though.
Oh. He got clear.
Oh yeah, he he was in that hospital for about a week or so.
He he got he he had a few enemies so he couldn't pinpoint
exactly because this guy was real piece of.
Piece of shit. So anyway, he left to his
country. He didn't.
He was gone. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I took care
of that actually real quick. When you get a reputation for
someone that can pull that off and you know, cuz again, you
know, most people probably get the adrenaline freak out.
Like there's so many scenarios that go through my head that
that could happen, right? But when you get the reputation
of someone that can actually do it and professionally like the
way you describe, like the the reconnaissance the does that
instantly kind of really elevate you up in the criminal world?
Well, you know what I would with me, what made my rise was the
fact that I did a lot of work for people and I was always
successful, right? It was not like nobody knew that
I did that job. Like Okay, who didn't?
I couldn't. I couldn't, you know, say I did
OK Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, that makes.
So nobody knew who did it, but they can assume, you know but a
lot of people knew who today because there's only you know so
many people in this community that you know that you know, I
mean I work for Mike. They know that that it could be
me and there's, you know another couple people in the
neighborhood, you know, but. I work for other people.
I work for the Italian families, you know, and I did a lot of
jobs and, you know, and I was always successful in them.
I work for bike clubs, you know, I was always successful.
And yeah, so yeah, I had a reputation.
When you want something done, they called me and they knew
that there I would do the job. And if they, God forbid,
something happened to me, they knew I would Rammo.
And yeah, yeah. So y'all had a good repetition
with everybody, with everybody. These events are what what led
up to you doing three years, and then when you did that three
years, you kept your mouth shut and then you you when I went to
court, but I got arrested for that $1,000,000 extortion.
That big Davey was with me and Rico, he was my driver.
Now there was some tape. There's a phone number at
David's house where it was staying, and that that number
was supposed to be the guy who sent me to do this job.
Anyways, they had Robert Bidwell, who was already doing
15 years, brought it from from penitentiary to the court to the
courthouse, now charged for sending me to do an extortion.
Now he's looking at another 15 years here.
And now the number that was that the police found the tie that in
with the guy that sent me to do the job.
So they had the two parties now in court and they had me on the
stand trying to point fingers to say that, yeah, that was them.
So they're at the Crown attorney was questioning me to try, you
know, with his tactics, trying to trick me in any way he can to
make me slip up in some way somehow.
And if I catch me the lie, that's perjury and I get more
time, make a lot of stories short.
These both guys walk. No one got convicted.
And when they both guys left that courtroom, they had smiles
from cheek to cheek. So we're not.
Yeah. So when I left, when I finished
doing my time, OK, like I a lot of people were just like right
on Davey, you know, right for his soul because it was a
battle. You know it was because the game
he he was, he was he was doing some talking.
He was doing some talking. The guy was a he was a he was a
street guy. He was a prison guard before he
come working with me. So he he didn't want to do no
time. He just didn't want to do no
time. So he the coppers were scaring
him saying he was going to get time and time so he was talking.
He is easy. That like, you know, I didn't
expect it from the guy, but when you find out, you find out and I
found out you know what's left. Anyways, when I finished doing
my time, you know I had nothing but live and learn.
Right. Of course.
It's it's it's really a fascinating and I really
appreciate it Before I go I I'm, I'm so grateful that I'm not the
man that I was. Yes, I'm a new.
I'm a new creation. I give all praise to my Lord
Jesus Christ. I'm a new man.
Yes, you know, and I, you know, there's some stuff that still
haunts me. David, thank you so much and you
have a great, blessed day and I appreciate you taking the time
to talk to me on my podcast. You're very welcome, my friend.
God bless you too, but. Thank you.