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Why should you care about crime 
in Vancouver? 

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Well, there's quite a lot of it 
and I think Vancouver is a 

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cautionary tale for a lot of 
cities. 

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And I know every major city has 
a lot of crime. 

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I don't know how Vancouver crime
would compare to somewhere like 

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Detroit or Chicago or even New 
York City, but these are cities 

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that are quite a lot bigger. 
Most of the people in Vancouver 

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are very law abiding, 
hardworking, honest, good 

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people. 
On one side of the coin, 

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Vancouver is a very beautiful 
place. 

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Happy to live here. 
I'm happy I was born and raised 

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here. 
The beaches are beautiful 

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summertime, There's so many 
wonderful beaches, trails if you

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love hiking, if you're a boater.
If you're into fishing. 

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If you're into. 
Skiing if you're in the camping,

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actually a great city to live in
if you can afford it. 

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People in Vancouver. 
Have they have a shell for kind 

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of icy, but once you break the 
past that you you can build 

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really quality friendships. 
But there's a lot of crazy 

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people here. 
See the city? 

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It's almost like it's it's two 
cities. 

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There's a normal people, the 
healthy people, the health 

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conscious people, the attractive
people that come here for. 

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Acting Vancouver has one of the 
largest movie industries in 

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North America. 
So many movies, so many TV 

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shows, so many Netflix specials.
Seems like every science fiction

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show on Netflix was filmed to 
Vancouver. 

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I recognize all the places, 
right? 

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So there's a lot of actors, a 
lot of people that come here for

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for work in the entertainment 
business, right? 

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Travel to 40 major cities 
throughout North America. 

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I was always happy to come back 
to Vancouver. 

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I I spent some time in New York.
I love New York. 

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New York, of all the cities I've
been to, had the most impact. 

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On me, like the city that I 
think about. 

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Oh, I'd love to go back there. 
I want to go back there, but 

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hey, New York is kind of grungy.
It's kind of dirty. 

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Don't see a lot of green stuff. 
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Vancouver, the green, the fresh 
air, the the, the quiet, the 

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tranquility was just so 
overwhelming from a place like 

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from New York. 
On the surface, there's this. 

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Beauty this greenery. 
I I don't think there's a a 

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better place in North America. 
If you are an active, healthy, 

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outdoors, athletic person, 
gorgeous city, the neighborhoods

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are amazing. 
There's so many diverse 

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neighborhoods now I'm going to 
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Both the Ugly Vancouver and the 
Ugly. 

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Vancouver is kind of like 
underneath the surface. 

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There's a lot of mental illness.
Here, see The thing is, is that 

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Canada is a relatively cold 
country, especially in the 

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winter time. 
A lot of people with mental 

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health issues or drug addiction,
they migrate. 

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Here because they think it's a 
warmer climate, they think. 

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It's going to be easier here and
it's not the case because 

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Vancouver is not an. 
Easy city to break into. 

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You got to know people. 
You got to have a bit of in. 

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It's just the way it is. 
It's a small community. 

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It's a small city, right? 
And sometimes it's not the most 

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friendly to outsiders. 
It this is this, it is what it 

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is. 
And so if you come here and you 

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have no money and you have 
mental illness and you have an 

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underlying drug addiction, 
you're going to get marginalized

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pretty fast. 
It's happened is that, hey, I'm 

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going to go to Vancouver and 
come here and they're first of 

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all, they're shocked at the the 
sticker price of what rent is a 

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cost of living is high. 
They find it hard to meet 

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friends, be people from 
Vancouver who are health 

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conscious and good things going 
on. 

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They don't really want to invite
someone in their life that has 

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drug problems and not from here 
and maybe cause problems because

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I've seen it so many times. 
It's just is the mental health 

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capital of Canada. 
Most therapists, most 

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psychiatrists, most patients. 
There's a lot of people that 

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have underlining mental illness,
lot of outpatient programs, a 

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lot of people that come here. 
It's not what they said and they

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get marginalized. 
Then Vancouver the ugly. 

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The availability of drugs is 
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anywhere in the world. 
And I know drugs exist 

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everywhere, but nowhere have I 
ever seen an open air drug 

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market in a three block radius 
like Hastings St. where I can 

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score crack, heroin, fentanyl, 
hills, walk down the street, 

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hey, got math, got boom, someone
will have a handout. 

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It's an open air drug market. 
So if you're a recovering 

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addict, maybe you had a drug 
problem in the past and you come

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here and maybe that job didn't 
work out because there's a lot 

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of bullshit here too. 
People come here, they're not 

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prepared for how expensive it 
is. 

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They're not prepared that 
Vancouver people seem a little 

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cold. 
No, the Vancouver. 

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Just weary because they didn't 
burn. 

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They didn't, you know, trust me 
on that one. 

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They and so makes people kind of
more standoffish to new people 

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especially people that party and
do drugs and things like that in

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Vancouver. 
The ugly You can get drugs 

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really cheap and guess what? 
Now you can make lots of 

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friends. 
Now you feel welcome because you

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have drugs and you're generous 
with them. 

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You're gonna make lots of 
friends, right? 

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I probably was more of a binge 
drinker rather than a binge drug

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user. 
I've used drugs in the past, but

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I don't use them now. 
I worked in the IT industry. 

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I worked in the stock market 
industry and and a lot of times 

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after work you'd go out to blow 
off steam, decompress and need 

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drink heavy. 
I found I was always a person 

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that seemed to be the most 
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Boom. 
I had all these friends around 

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me buying rounds and rounds of 
drinks. 

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I felt like I had all the 
friends in the world stop doing 

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that. 
Those friends disappear and now 

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you're lonely. 
So that just gives you 

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perspective, right? 
So drugs are very easy to get. 

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Then what happens? 
A lot of people here is they get

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in over their head. 
They can't afford their drugs 

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anymore. 
They can't afford the rent, get 

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their self into a crisis 
situation, and they end up 

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homeless. 
They end up on Hastings St. or 

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they end up in one of these 
awful hotel rooms that are full 

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of bedbugs and now to cope with 
that they're doing harder drugs.

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It's a cycle. 
I've seen Soma if you probably 

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if you went down Hastings St. 
and you took the majority of the

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people there, from my 
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majority of those people are 
from out of town. 

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The reason why I say that is 
that things that the ministry 

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does or Ministry of Social 
Services, they like to send 

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these people back on one way bus
tickets because other 

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jurisdictions in Canada send 
their people here with one way 

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bus tickets. 
So it's like all these different

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jurisdictions and cities are 
sending all their unwanted by 

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one way bus tickets. 
But also with that, you're 

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getting, you're getting sex 
offenders, you're getting drug 

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addicts, you're getting people 
evading the law, you're getting 

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all kinds of problems. 
And again, there's this 

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perception Vancouver's 
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It's it's like the California of
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So it tracks a lot of people for
the wrong reasons, our people 

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that come here for the right 
reasons and they get in over 

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their heads with drugs because 
the drugs are so available. 

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Then there's a crime aspect in 
Vancouver, the beautiful people 

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are pretty law abiding. 
They don't get involved in drugs

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or crime or anything of that 
nature. 

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But then there's the Vancouver. 
The ugly is that if you are a 

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criminal and if you are the 
legal system definitely favors 

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you know, the defendants. 
If they can afford top level 

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legal counsel in banking 
jurisdictions right, there's 

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companies that will move their 
corporate location to get better

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tax breaks like you know places 
like Delaware or the Virgin 

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Islands or Cayman Islands. 
Like there's there's 

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jurisdictions were you will move
your company assets so you can 

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save on taxes and you know you 
take advantage of loopholes and 

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blah blah blah, right? 
So think about if you're a 

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criminal organization, there's a
place called Vancouver where the

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judges are pretty lenient, the 
senses are not very high, 

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there's highly skilled lawyers 
that really know the law and to 

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your benefit, if you can afford 
them. 

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And it's a money laundering 
paradise. 

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The casinos were allowing people
to walk in with hockey bags full

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of cash. 
On camera and then trading them 

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for chips like being in. 
Plain as day what? 

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They're obviously so again, so 
if the government didn't know 

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that people were just walking 
into their government owned 

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casinos and laundering cash, 
well, shame on them. 

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And if they did know, well, 
shame on them. 

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But there's nowhere better on 
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America to launder your money. 
So if you're criminal 

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organization, International 
Criminal organization, right, 

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you move here, there is an 
investor program. 

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You can become a citizen if you 
pay basically by your 

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citizenship. 
Basically they become Canadian 

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citizens because they buy their 
way in. 

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They have access to our 
financial markets. 

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They can launder their money 
through our housing because you 

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can just. 
And that's what drove prices of 

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housing through the roof because
Vancouver became a holding 

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assets for criminal 
organizations to hold their 

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money in and then have access to
the Canadian banking and credit 

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casinos to wash your money and a
large population that consume 

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drugs. 
It's like the massive pipeline, 

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$1,000,000 a day of drug sales 
of people consuming drugs. 

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So you have access now to a 
those drugs turns into cash 

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instantly thing. 
This is a true story and it's so

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outrageous that I hardly believe
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But I witnessed it Hasting 
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I remember I was looking for my 
friend Kevin and I finally found

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him because he would go and 
disappear and I found him in 

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this area called Pigeon Park. 
And Pigeon Park is kind of like 

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a lot of people drink there. 
It's like a drinking spot of 

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people drinking booze and course
using crack. 

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So I found my friend Kevin at 
Pigeon Park and I said okay, I'm

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going to take you home, right? 
And time to go home. 

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And he said I just need one more
piece of crack because he was 

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smoking heavy crack at this 
time. 

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And we'll we'll buy some crack 
and then you can Take Me Home. 

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So I need some drugs to wean 
off. 

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I can't just go cold Turkey And 
it's like hey, whatever. 

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And he goes and I want to show 
you something that's going to 

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blow your mind. 
I'm like okay. 

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So we're walking up Hastings St.
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Pender like more on Pender, I 
believe. 

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And there was this old hotel 
like really rough looking, kind 

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of like I was. 
I think it advertised it was 

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like for backpacking or 
something like that, like 

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hostile for out of town people. 
But it was all homeless people. 

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And there was like a lineup down
the street around the. 

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But this lineup was moving fast.
He was old. 

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Let's get in the lineup. 
I'm like, OK, what the fuck's 

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going on? 
He goes, I'm going to buy some 

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crack. 
So we go in this lineup and the 

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lineup moves fast and we're in 
the door. 

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Kevin looks at the guy, says 
something. 

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Guy just kind of ushers in. 
We walk into the hotel now. 

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This is a really rundown, 
barely, you know, should be a 

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condemned building. 
Looks like a condemned, but 

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there's probably about 100 
people in the lineup, and the 

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area inside the hotel lobby area
is very crowded with people and 

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people are going in and out 
fast. 

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We get up to the counter, cabin 
pulls out a $50.00 bill, asked 

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for $50 crack, the guy pulls out
a big crack rock, he grabs it 

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and we go, and I'm just looking 
like, holy shit. 

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And I'm just watching people. 
So every every second you can 

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count 123-4567. 
Eight people are pulling out 

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tens, 20s, but people are 
buying, you know, crack at 1020 

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dollars a pop. 
But. 

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Thing is, is as fast as you can 
count as fast as that 

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transactions going and. 
And this is open air. 

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This is like everyone you know. 
And down the street there's a 

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police station and there's 
patrol cars and there's cops on 

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beats. 
And I my mind is blowing, 

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absolutely blowing. 
And I just said to Kevin, like, 

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how long is this place been 
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It was all about a couple weeks.
Now that's the type of drug 

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atmosphere that takes place in 
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It it, it just blows your mind. 
Like I remember like I used to, 

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I lived downtown quite a bit and
I would take friends when they 

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come in front. 
His friend from Australia, he 

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was a roadie actually for like 
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bands. 
From Australia he would come and

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do a show. 
At BC Place or at time, it's 

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called GM Place and it's called 
Roger. 

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It's Rogers Arena now. 
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said to him, hey, what a sea 
cycle, blow your mind. 

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And it was a welfare Wednesday, 
which is, you know, the day when

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all the people get on social 
assistance, get their checks. 

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The summertime it was August, I 
remember. 

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It was that band he was wrote it
for that band. 

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They had they. 
I can't remember the name of the

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band, but they had a hit song 
called How Bizarre. 

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I don't know if he can Google 
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was a song, right? 
He was here for. 

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So anyways. 
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during the height of Welfare 
Wednesday and it is like just a 

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carnival of mayhem and ambulance
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people that is using and 
smoking. 

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Crack and doing drugs and he he.
Just said I've traveled all over

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the world cuz he know he's a 
roadie, right? 

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Because. 
I've never seen anything. 

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And then I point on Main and 
Hastings. 

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That police station has now 
closed up the end. 

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There's a cop station, right? 
There's a he he he couldn't 

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comprehend it, right. 
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right, so massive drug 
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people that are in the drug 
trade because Jesus, like, you 

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know, just a guaranteed, you 
know, take your, take your 

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powder, take your whatever it is
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always blowing my mind all my 
life, there's never. 

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Seem to be any major boss that 
shuts down Hastings St. 

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Never heard of it. 
They bust the dealers on the 

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street. 
They do these little cleanups 

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once in a while that this almost
like our just. 

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Don't really do anything but 
you've never heard of some big 

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organization you know name. 
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shut down. 
And it now, now Hastings St. 

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dries a bone. 
There's no more. 

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Drug, you know, it just never 
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Being around Vancouver all my 
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When I was a kid, my mom would 
take me to Woodward's. 

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Woodward's was a department 
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store and they had grocery store
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Then it was like for any 
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This is like in the 80s and it 
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know, it was downtown, but we 
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There was No Fear. 
But then when crack hit, it 

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changed the street like it was. 
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Crack hit Vancouver and it was a
that was a game changer in my 

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opinion. 
Like they're like especially 

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when I talk to old timers and 
maybe old I can remember I know 

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an old biker he's telling me 
like back in the 70s you know 

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they'd go down to Hastings St. 
and they'd get the stuff called 

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wax. 
I don't know apparently was some

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type of speed or something that 
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about that or. 
Downtown, that area was more 

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known for, Ruby says. 
My mom would call him like 

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Alcoholics, hobos, people that 
would drink like, you know, 

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cheap wine it was. 
More like that was more Hasting 

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street where people would. 
Drink, you know? 

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typically the heroin people 
would just buy their heroin then

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kind of go indoors. 
You didn't see the epic St. life

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with with cocaine. 
Because now they're not 

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sleeping, they're like and they 
constantly. 

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Need another hit, another hit, 
another hit. 

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And and so that was a real game 
changer as far as like the 

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dynamic of of changing the the 
the scene of of Hastings St. and

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then with that became more girls
for more women getting desperate

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because they were getting hooked
on cocaine and and and more of 

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the harder drugs And then they 
started doing prostitution and 

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then that attracted the 
predators creeps that would 

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target these women because they 
were desperate for drugs or dope

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sick and then they were selling 
themselves for is. 

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Vancouver's always had a 
prostitution, a high rate of 

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prostitution. 
There was lots of prostitutes 

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along E Broadway, which is kind 
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was lots along E Broadway 
because I remember my brother 

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got a job at some government 
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It was like kind of like East 
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It's like a government 
warehouse. 

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It was called the election 
branch. 

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I guess they had they. 
It was a warehouse that had all 

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the paperwork for, you know, 
upcoming municipal and BC 

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elections. 
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would open the doors because we 
get really hot. 

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And I remember one time, I mean,
I went by to get give my brother

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his lunch and there was all 
these really like fracked out 

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prostitutes and bikinis like 
trying to go in. 

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And they're like, you know, 
they'd actually walk into the 

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warehouse and, you know, try to 
get a trick from the men working

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there. 
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So this is kind of like 80s, 
right? 

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So this is like when the cocaine
really started, hit, you started

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to see this kind of stuff where 
you never saw before. 

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And then in the 90s it started 
to get really bad because there 

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was more drugs, more pills. 
I don't think meth was around. 

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I think I remember meth, kind 
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Like in the club scene, a crack 
cocaine. 

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Was was the big thing in the 80s
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90s and then course now fentanyl
and meth and you know all these 

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different derivative drugs that 
are out there. 

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So going back to like early 
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St. and there's a really a good 
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Davie. 
Street and Davie St. was crazy 

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in the West End was not from 
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This is so confusing, but I'll 
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So there's the West side of 
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So the city of Vancouver is 
divided by east and West, right?

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So Main St. divides the city. 
Actually it's Ontario St. but 

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divides the city. 
East side, West side. 

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Traditionally the West side was 
seen as more affluent or the 

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east side was more working 
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And but then there's the West 
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The West End is a neighborhood 
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mostly apartment blocks and 
stuff like that. 

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In the past, it was considered 
more of a gay area of Vancouver.

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And I don't think as much 
anymore. 

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Like Davie St. still has a lot 
of gay stores and gay clubs. 

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But back in the day in the 80s 
and 90s it was, it was a lot 

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more of a gay neighborhood and 
but but heavy partying. 

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It was like known for parties 
and things like that. 

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I'll tell some West End stories 
in another podcast cuz they're 

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they're and they're incredible. 
So there's a West End and then 

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there's West Vancouver which is 
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Vancouver is probably the most 
affluent neighborhood in in all 

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of Canada like and one side of 
the North Shore is North 

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Vancouver and then the other 
side is West Vancouver. 

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So anyway, so this is the West 
End and it was it was hookers 

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all the way up Davie St. all the
way down into downtown on on 

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Seymour and Robson. 
So there's always been in 

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Vancouver this underbelly of St.
life of prostitution and drugs. 

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And in Vancouver, the beautiful 
is very different than 

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Vancouver. 
The ugly at night. 

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So again, this is, this is the 
whole point of this, this 

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particular podcast. 
Vancouver the beautiful, the 

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gorgeous, the scenic, the lovely
neighborhoods, the communities, 

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the world class restaurants do 
love this place. 

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It's it's a it is my home as 
cities, like in my DNA. 

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It's in my blood. 
But there's something unique and

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creepy and dark too. 
You know? 

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This beautiful facade has a very
dark underbelly. 

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And the other thing about. 
Place like Hastings St. and this

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is something that was talked 
about I've heard you know people

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that who put a lot of time and 
effort talking about this, that 

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a lot of people believe that 
Hastings St. is a place for what

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they call a dark tourism. 
You know people that are like, 

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you know they we've all heard 
about sex tourism right. 

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People that go to places like 
Cambodia and. 

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You know third world countries 
and molest children, which I 

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believe they should be rounded 
up and shot for doing such a. 

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Disgusting thing. 
But there's people that come to 

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Vancouver for dark tourism. 
There's vulnerable women or drug

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addicts, you know, that they 
that they can target and do 

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terrible sick things to some 
could be serial killers. 

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Like, you know, we're talking 
about the Highway of Tears, 

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right? 
See what makes the Highway of 

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Tears unique? 
Remember, Highway Tears is not 

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in Vancouver. 
It's in northern BC, but 

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obviously. 
A murderous highway and what 

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makes it unique? 
And when I was posting about it 

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before and then people are 
saying, well, do you think 

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they'll ever catch the serial 
killer? 

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It's like it's not one person, 
it's an isolated area. 

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Where women are vulnerable, it's
not just one person. 

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It's, it's. 
It's. 

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People that go there knowing 
that they could have access to a

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vulnerable woman and they can 
just flee because. 

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You know, once you're on that 
highway, you're gone hundreds of

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miles in any direction. 
If you go up north, you're in 

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Alaska, you go down South, 
you're back in, you know, Metro 

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Vancouver. 
If you go E you're back in 

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Alberta, like here, you're gone 
like and get away with it, Which

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that's been the case. 
It seems like the only time 

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these cases get solved if they 
get caught in the act. 

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If they do get caught and they 
can afford counsel, they can 

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delay a very lengthy trial and 
and this seems like the court 

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system in my opinion. 
I'm not a legal expert, but it 

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seems to favor the criminal who 
can afford good legal counsel. 

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If you have any questions, feel 
free to directly DM me. 

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I'm always happy to talk to 
people and I'm always happy to 

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interact with you and every one 
of you. 

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Have an awesome day and thank 
you so much. 

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Have a great day. 
I don't. 

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Know what to do?
