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new water mark, obviously. 
It's becoming more dangerous. 

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Yeah. 
For sure. 

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It's really become much more 
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that they're like Fentanyl and 
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it's other things. 
People are just putting whatever

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in their drugs, you know, to 
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people. 
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question is, why are you doing? 
Cuz he, he put your putting your

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neck out doing this. 
Yeah, for sure. 

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I'm like I'm really doing it big
time this time, you know? 

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I've been Drug advocate for is 
quite some time. 

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You know, I ran. 
It screams catch one for 40 

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years as medical dispensary to 
go to lunch periods of them and 

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we helped a lot of people that 
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people, you know, from children 
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everybody. 
And we say, you know, that's 

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what's going on in Vancouver. 
Now that I'm living here, I just

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feel it's the right thing to do.
I lost a brother a few months 

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ago to an overdose they found 
him under a bridge. 

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Oh yeah. 
And then my other than a brother

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who was murdered it's just that 
it's And I think nobody else is 

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really stepping up about you 
sighs, Sarah here and then given

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her some blocking dear. 
So I just think it's something 

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that I'm just going to go ahead 
and do if they arrest me. 

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They arrest me - we'll do a 
constitutional challenge did. 

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Say it's just a fast track, D to
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You ever get the law changed, 
why put yourself at such 

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personal risk, to do this Felix?
I just the right thing to do. 

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People are dying and I can't 
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die for somebody. 
Told me. 

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It's ok to Save Somebody. 
I believe that if we can we 

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should And that's what I'm gonna
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We frankly, I'm not done with 
the Cannabis industry. 

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I'm still in court, has been in 
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constitutional challenge for 
medical cannabis dispensaries. 

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Yeah, recreational cannabis 
dispensaries. 

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They left the whole medical 
regime. 

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So I'm trying to get the law 
changed and grew myself as well.

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You do 25 years, they find out 
tomorrow. 

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Actually, if that comes to me, 
or if we change the law. 

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So if I do win, the new 
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you know, allow medical cannabis
dispensaries not just online and

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Over the years, there's just 
nothing standardized in the 

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Cannabis industry, right? 
Yeah, standardized, especially 

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with the strains if you want to 
get the same stream tree three 

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times and servitor can't do 
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In fact, they don't even show 
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It is says, I'll take a picture 
of Google, it believes that it 

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is the rules. 
They will show you the actual 

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plan. 
Right? 

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How does your system work? 
Like maybe you will break down 

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how you're going to be different
than what? 

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Because honestly, I think that 
you are Possibly the only person

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in the world doing it the way 
you're doing it. 

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Yeah absolutely. 
Yeah the open yes. 

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Yeah I know yeah system. 
I just gotta do what I do. 

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Well this is a bit of a sister I
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we can do is put our necks out 
there and starts it and they 

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don't think about myself in 
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In that point you I think 
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people. 
There that needs help right now 

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but none from behind right now. 
So I should be out there. 

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Helping people is what I think I
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If I have the opportunity to do 
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So what happens basically is, 
I'm going to go do what I'm 

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going to do. 
Yeah, they come arrest me fail. 

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They don't hire Paul and they 
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constitutional Challenge and 
then we start getting the law. 

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So the rest of your Thursday 
cocaine distribution will say, 

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hey, this is a this is we should
be allowed to do this. 

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People should be allowed to get 
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state plan on doing the First 
Freedom of thought Casey. 

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Ever. 
Oh wow. 

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If no one's ever done before 
even talk case the world. 

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Maybe how are you guaranteeing? 
That these drugs are safer 

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fentanyl free and how you 
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Not sure. 
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He's a good friend of mine. 
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Vancouver here, and that's 
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Cultural Health improved machine
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So that's what we're doing. 
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We do use the spectrometer to 
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The drug is what it is. 
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is crazy. 
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demand for diff why these 
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ways you can escape reality. 
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opinion, drama childhood trauma 
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taken care of happened to them, 
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escape. 
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is his heroin In fact know, 
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Amazingly, you know, the heroin 
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seems to be the big one, takes 
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can step into now. 
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helping them get out of that 
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as possible as they can to get 
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it low, really low welfare 
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this little help there, it's not
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psychologist out there, you 
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help these people. 
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those cases, they're making them
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citizen. 
They need some help. 

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It's a health issue. 
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What's your plans from a retail 
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Sure. 
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It's definitely a business for 
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You got to be money to run a 
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of things. 
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business. 
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have money, is it different? 
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business. 
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the community and try and help 
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So, basically, we're just going 
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That's cocaine LSD. 
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and everything will be fendall, 
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a drug, it's supposed to be. 
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gonna do is over it as we reach 
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get everybody signed that waiver
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get some information on them, 
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so we can get some research on 
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help them that way. 
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everybody musics, people get 
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They want their, You know, any 
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do in order to same way as they 
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we're going to run it medicine 
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is a minute, the medicine for 
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and they should be getting what 
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Then you shouldn't be getting, 
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they don't want heroin fentanyl 
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you know, Ajax or something. 
Yeah, anything in it. 

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provide a safe, test a drug so 
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overdoses. 
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to have overdoses or death. 
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numbers down by doing this 
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sales. 
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free-for-all for anyone to go in
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Sell any type of drug dangerous.
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to do then is to police provide 
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drugs that are being consumed 
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I may disagree about people 
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person before at the end of the 
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are going to go there and 
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getting more and more dangerous.
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I was down there yesterday and 
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six months. 
It is mass detention every 

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street. 
Every corner it's really in bad 

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down there and yeah it is 
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It is dangerous because people 
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is that each other? 
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deal. 
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back once the dark. 
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have go to Ali's to get their 
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You know what you're gonna get, 
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These sort of things will be 
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Do is provide a good safe place 
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Another thing you bring up two 
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dealers that Target the 
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they get you know they owe them 
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their world is in a lot. 
You they World Turns really 

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upside down fast. 
So this could prevent, you know,

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women having to go to Predator, 
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just monstrous and I heard it's 
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The other, The Wish Foundation 
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there. 
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ever been for Predators even 
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and stuff. 
So there's probably pickton's 

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more pickton's around, right? 
So it's a scary world. 

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There's so many things I can 
Cap'n. 

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There's this other people that 
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victimized by just sort of 
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They can't afford it. 
Do they do whatever they can to 

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get that fixed, right, because 
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Going to put themselves In 
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unintentionally, just to make 
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How does that sound? 
I'm so so so people take 

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advantage of that just rated, 
that's really the worst thing. 

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They can think it ever do to 
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Pain does happen. 
So we just had an election. 

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The people that came into Power.
How did it feel that affects you

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in any way or just kind of just 
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do and regardless of what's 
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I don't follow the news pair of 
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all. 
Yeah, well yeah. 

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The new bear, new new and again.
Yeah, this is the new era, 

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right? 
Is the one. 

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I do worry about me to shed some
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Your sis A you're successful at 
doing this, in the drug world. 

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You know, there's a lot of 
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your kind of model and start 
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But then there have been in 
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making Alba. 
Did you copy my not put 

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dangerous f, it is. 
I hope these goal of all over 

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Canada, you know, about the 
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They should be providing safe to
say facts instead to drugs and 

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with all kinds of different 
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I think they should copy my 
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I don't get it. 
Do you gang in town? 

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I believe this numeric coming as
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Our. 
Yeah, I'm with him. 

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I have friends over in politics.
There are trying to set me up in

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the evening with him. 
So that would be really great if

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he did, take that. 
Well, first set your post 

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around, you know, people. 
Hey, what's your thoughts on 

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this? 
You know, their minds were 

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blowing, how can he even do 
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Isn't this illegal? 
So, and I think that you're 

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definitely one of the first 
won't be the last for sure. 

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Yeah, I believe so. 
And another thing in politics, 

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so it really wouldn't matter 
who's in my can save a life. 

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I'm disabled. 
I find really don't care who's 

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in there, right? 
So that they need to think 

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arrest me and put me in jail, 
but when I get out, I'm just 

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going to do on the Psychedelic 
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So it's interesting because, you
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that and, you know, researched 
on using these for 

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Psychotherapy, for trauma, for 
post-traumatic stress that could

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help people maybe get off heroin
or, you know, lucky I saw that 

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you had ibogaine. 
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successful so maybe talk about 
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psychedelic therapies that could
help people. 

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I'm sure I don't have a Bible 
gave myself. 

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This, something that should be 
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It's professional. 
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Elms or, you know, something 
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I've done title gated to see. 
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really wasn't for me. 
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and stuff. 
I didn't have that problem, you 

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know, the opioids have 
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He I really like 25 MB o DT. 
The god molecule is his, my 

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favorite Parts the world's 
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is it's basically only. 
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the other side of death was that
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Fine. 
That's okay. 

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What most people do is n and d 
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It is a street. 
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be, you know, but it's just not 
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Wow. 
Not even close. 

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You had no, this is unbelievable
that it really works for me. 

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That's for sure. 
I think I would really work. 

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Well, there's a lot of you or 
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Then he said he used it for 
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Yeah he cries read in his 
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know used to survive mboga and 
keys. 

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Well the toad wow. 
No is he said your kids and that

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puppy and ineffable to explain. 
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did it. 
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absolute power. 
You don't have any well every 

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well, first you going is boom. 
You're done everything. 

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You're nothing. 
You were just, you know, there's

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nobody, there's nothing. 
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And then Is this different parts
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You know, there's another part 
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where all they felt was the most
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I've ever felt in my life. 
Wow, so these things can really 

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a trend send a person and in 
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these parts of their broken 
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So to like 20 years of therapy, 
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Just like they say no, I broke 
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And they tried to forgive myself
for all the, But done to myself.

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Yeah, it's like Champs and Prime
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the day, it's never good for 
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If a large portion side, he is 
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They can't cope and they can't 
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themselves. 
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Watermark and this drug 
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have other abilities to try to 
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right? 
So, if be something because it's

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sad to watch the downtown 
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He descended into a living hell.
Like there's no other way to 

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describe it. 
As some people living in, they 

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often have people walk by that 
Nate nor that they go down to 

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you know yeah somebody's brother
somebody's sister somebody's 

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mother and father, there's 
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you have to start looking at the
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Do you anticipate you know maybe
even problems like on a security

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level it was one of my first 
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bad dogs in this business and 
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another reason to put myself out
there risky, so people don't 

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have to go through that. 
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getting the gun, put their dead.
If I had that many times in my 

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life, one of the reasons I want 
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to go through that for security 
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guards. 
Wear a bulletproof glass and 

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there behind that. 
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drugs on site will bring it and 
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Basically, I would limit here, 
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glass, all these sort of things.
We keep very, very limited drug 

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supply on hand and hopefully it 
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I mean, it was just some 
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it into the minimum will 
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problems and Drug stash. 
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provide, as part of the city's 
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So there's really, very little 
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This is right? 
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Yeah, drug world is Is the drug 
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It has a big spectrum of people 
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People are pretend not to do 
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doors and then people creepy out
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And it affects every Walk of 
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stuff. 
So you're gonna get a wide 

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variety of experiences right 
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little while ago actually I went
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about to happen. 
So we're going into a store. 

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Now this is as I said the new 
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and message Or as I'm sure 
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And then I said, with you being 
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marks and no, I'm doing out in 
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you're on posters, if QR codes, 
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I was like, but at the same 
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That's where we're at. 
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What do we always do first? 
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stand on the corners with 
posters and signs and the 

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streets of Vancouver here and 
everywhere you don't take over 

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the streets and people used to 
laugh at us for doing these sort

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of things, but cannabis is legal
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Yeah. 
And there was a lot of pushback 

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against it to a lot of pushback.
I remember all. 

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Yeah, all my life. 
It was like, cannabis was like 

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the devil's Leaf, you know. 
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It's funny to, you know, go 
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where it is today and and is the
world burning down because 

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people can go buy weed at a 
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harder substances than weed and 
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same ballpark as Coke, but 
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back to again regardless of how 
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or not. 
There are a lot of people that 

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want to use it and that's their 
previous, he said their 

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preference drugs and they'll go 
through risky Behavior, talk 

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deal with someone that's 
potentially dangerous to get it 

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and put their lives at risk? 
Wait, I feel it's more important

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to have such runs like that, 
legal, besides canvas. 

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So it's difficult to prevent all
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You don't prevent the risk of 
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robbery or just jump, you don't 
Predator, sort of things, you 

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have a legalized standard Isis. 
Mmm. 

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Wow. 
Yeah, any last thoughts or was 

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my glory popping up there? 
I don't know. 

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I hope it goes. 
Well, that's for sure. 

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I just want people to have an 
open mind about. 

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These people are very close. 
My eyes is generally not their 

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fault. 
This is the way they're 

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conditioned and what they've 
heard with their growing up, and

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it's a total just right or 
wrong, I just wanted people to 

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just sit back and use their own 
judgment. 

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Not, not a, you know, that's 
something that's been if you 

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know, affected by somebody 
else's thoughts, what didn't 

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really sit back. 
Back and take him since my mom. 

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That's my brother. 
That's my sister out there. 

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What would I really want for 
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But I want something safer like 
to them. 

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What I prefer. 
They were getting something 

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dangerous. 
Obviously, that could be covered

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everything or fentanyl in the 
kadai like my brother be 

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murdered. 
Like my brother like me if 

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that's what they want, they 
should continue going on but 

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their thoughts are with you are 
but I don't be this way. 

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Anybody really wants it. 
No helpful in the end they want 

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a better Society. 
They want to say for society and

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they certainly don't want their 
sisters. 

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Mothers and their daughters 
being prejudiced toward but you 

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know, that's what I think. 
It's think I'd really like to 

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take. 
Take a step back and really look

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at the situation. 
Yeah, it is a nightmare. 

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It set all the other things. 
We talked about me. 

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No women being targeted, 
Predators the robbery, the gang 

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violence and stuff had, there 
has to be a way to kind of dial 

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that back down and actually 
treat people that that need help

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that because that stuff does get
in the way, right? 

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It takes up a lot of the 
resources and stuff and then it 

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kind of like, even myself 
included, it kind of clouds your

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lens when you. 
Okay? 

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Well, there wouldn't be all 
these crimes if it wasn't for 

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these drug users, right? 
So then they become an easy 

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scapegoat, Goat and I probably 
done that myself getting myself 

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into and it's important to have 
open dialogue for even for this 

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question. 
In my opinion, this is one of 

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the most important conversations
that City of Vancouver Metro 

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Vancouver in the province of 
British Columbia has to have 

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about safe Supply. 
Large population of addicted, 

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people who need help. 
And how are we going to bridge 

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it? 
So we get to a better place. 

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I don't know what we're doing is
not working obviously. 

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Well there you do G, 
criminalized in January so they 

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do need to say IT Supplies 
50-somethings allow people to do

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something. 
If there's nowhere to get it 

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safely. 
Well, Jerry. 

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Hopefully, we can have another 
conversation down the road. 

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I'd love to keep talking to you 
about this. 

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All right, I really appreciate 
you. 

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Having me on the show. 
Thank you. 

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Jerry take care. 
Have a good day. 

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Thank you.