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Welcome to Vancouver True Crime 
today. 

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I have a very special guest in 
some very heartbreaking stories.

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So, without further Ado, I 
Paulina who's unrelated 

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breakdown a very tragic story. 
So let her provide her testimony

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and Pauline. 
I'm very sorry to meet under 

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these circumstances. 
Why don't you introduce yourself

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and share your story and we'll 
get into and have a conversation

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about it? 
First of all, I'm very sorry for

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that, what happened to be 
brother and your mother and 

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thank you for coming and talking
to me. 

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I don't even know how to begin 
this or I'm so grateful that you

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were able to speak on the story.
You're actually one of the only 

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people that responded back to me
that when we don't have a voice 

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that I really appreciate that. 
Just a little back story, my 

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parents are immigrants, they 
immigrated here from Kyrgyzstan 

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with this part of Russia. 
The Soviet Union and then 

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Montreal and here, we're going 
to here since 2005, my brother, 

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he struggles with addiction and 
he so I don't want Complete that

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point out. 
I think it's also an important 

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part of the story. 
There's a few key issues that 

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are going on in Vancouver. 
Addiction help access for people

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that want to get off substances 
and then the cause of the effect

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of this addiction and opiate 
crisis and it affects everybody 

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affects the family. 
It affects, you know, obvious 

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head, your family's had a big 
impact of it. 

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So I think it's an important 
part of the part of the story in

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the bigger. 
Of the story. 

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Throat mc2. 
Exactly. 

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So yeah, so he does struggle 
with addiction and he's been 

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seeking help. 
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and I'm sure anybody and I 
coover that I know someone with 

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addiction and you know it's it's
almost impossible. 

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They it's almost they got clean.
I don't know. 

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Whatever. 
That's a whole different topic. 

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It's very challenging. 
Yes. 

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But so this one particular 
moment, my brother, he has been 

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detoxic before he at, he had an 
appointment to go into detox 

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before going into rehab, but 
he's trying to stay clean. 

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So, he hasn't done any drugs and
I think he was clean for two 

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weeks and he just he's like, I 
need my last fix and maybe it 

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was in his head. 
I don't know. 

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I'm a human we view as well. 
Let's get my last fixed before I

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go into detox. 
It's hard. 

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I don't understand it. 
I can't understand what it's 

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like to have that illness. 
I've had family members and I've

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lost one of my best friend's to 
addiction. 

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And I'm Priya recently, I lost 
an ex-girlfriend to addiction 

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for these people. 
It was lifelong, they would have

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years where they're good and 
then something would happen a 

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stressor and, and then they 
would have a relapse. 

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But the difference now is that 
when someone relapse is with the

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level of toxic drugs, it could 
be their last time, but it's a 

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very serious situation. 
But the cycle of addiction, for 

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some people can be lifelong even
with their best intentions of. 

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It's a hard thing to explain to 
people on the outside who have 

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never had to deal with it and 
they're quite fortunate. 

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If they've never had it, it's a 
double, it's a serious problem. 

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I, I don't think I could pick up
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Who's not affected by someone 
who has addiction mother. 

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Sure. 
We're a family member or an 

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acquaintance, everybody's people
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So it's so it's a serious 
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I guess the story My brother was
going to get his last fix record

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high. 
It was a harrowing and my mom. 

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Her kids are her life her life. 
She's such a caring mother and 

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she also doesn't speak English. 
Well, all right, for Canada, she

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had to learn French. 
And then we moved here and she 

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now has to learn English. 
She barely speaks she can kind 

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of understand you know my 
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and she's had only God. 
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as a mother she's yeah 
protective I will follow him 

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until like it doesn't matter 
what he's doing is right but my 

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mom goes after him, he gets 
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She like Mom you're so 
embarrassing. 

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Stop following me. 
She calls him everywhere. 

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So this one moment, they're 
walking through, she sent her 

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area. 
He Westminster High way around 

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the area and my brother. 
He got his fix Eagle. 

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Hi. 
He was very dehydrated Skies. 

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They have a shopping cart and a 
half beverage. 

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I said, oh I'm going to buy that
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whatever catering, he's first 
crack. 

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So he goes to kind of Gatorade 
they have trucks. 

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I hate you want to get to some 
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you know, so they're getting 
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He's like, yeah, we're getting 
so frustrated, one of ours had 

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sought, he recognized my brother
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him, that he may really upset 
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He's anyway, the, my brother was
a rapist is what he's? 

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And my brother is very 
sensitive. 

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Of to that, of course, most 
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I would be, I wouldn't want 
someone calling me that. 

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No one would want to be called 
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And, I mean, my brother, he is 
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hmm. 
He's had unfortunate thing 

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happened to him, right made. 
So to him, it's very, very 

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triggering. 
Remark, tell the audience, the 

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date, the so, so, they know the 
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this happen on May 7. 
Heat. 

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Okay, May 7 around 7:00, 7:30 
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Anyways, they make this comment 
about Jaime really triggers him,

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he gets upset, because they 
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Also, it's important to know. 
He was on heroin though. 

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He wasn't trying to look for 
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Like no, no, just don't say 
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They now start teasing him and 
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How many people in the group? 
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two men, one woman. 
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her Mid-20s the one of the guys,
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guy in his early 40s, according 
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just the not their means. 
So anyways, they're attacking my

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brother. 
My mom is very religious because

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she was off to the side praying.
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And then she sees this 
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She drops the We're Jewish. 
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she's like what are you guys 
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I was just trying to break it up
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Please please, please send. 
When I say oh she's older woman.

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Barely speaks it like she's just
Yeah, Bang, ow. 

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Oh, that's his mom. 
They then push my brother to the

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side and he's very high, he can 
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What's going on? 
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old punched, my mom. 
I know my God times. 

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Oh my God, he's hitting her in 
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Oh my God. 
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of what she said, because she's 
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So quick. 
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gets involved and she starts 
kicking my mom and like throwing

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her around. 
Grabbing her hair and the other 

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guy joined in after and she 
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So, she got stabbed in the back 
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Oh, he doesn't know if she fell 
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stopped. 
She's now on the floor laying 

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and they're all kicking her. 
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kicking her and see my brother 
trying to get in and he's like, 

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trying to get in to stop them. 
And to help my mom is just 

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cruel. 
It was really cruel, so they're 

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laughing at him. 
Forming the circle. 

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Hi haha, you can't help your 
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You're so hot. 
It was disgusting. 

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It's very heartbreaking. 
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So so at that point, my 
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Okay, so he now tries to 
Knocking on car windows, like, 

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can someone help consume connect
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right? 
He's trying to get help. 

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I'm his side. 
It felt like an eternity. 

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He was like no one popping. 
Anything like know you. 

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I was trying to calm him as a. 
I'm sure people called cough. 

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She's like no it was it was it 
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It was cool though. 
I'm scared. 

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I don't understand why is nobody
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I've been in the city for a long
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I've never ever in my life 
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punching a 65 year, old woman in
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One thing I want you to 
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was some press on this and and 
they got something wrong, they 

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they said that all, they're all 
known to each other but I want 

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you to set the record. 
Say your mom has never met or 

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had any dealings with these 
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So So our first interaction with
this guy was getting punched in 

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the face and I think they tried 
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that all drug addicts, all know 
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acquainted or whatever and they 
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story like everybody knew each 
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That is not what happened. 
I get there. 

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Trying to not alarm the public 
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But I think when these people 
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morning, they're not even there 
for A full 24 hours. 

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That's the reason why I'm 
talking about. 

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This is that's alarming to other
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Oh, he's around coming around. 
Pretty, they ache at the story, 

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wrong beat. 
These people are out in public. 

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I'm so scared that this is going
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Seeing has happened and how the 
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cops arrived hospital to even 
the aftermath that we're dealing

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with right now. 
Yeah. 

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But how mistreated in my growing
Scout? 

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Yes. 
And people who Speak the 

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language. 
It's disgusting. 

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So I hope this isn't the case, 
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I would like for other people to
be like, oh my gosh, wait, 

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something kind of similar 
happened to me and they also 

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shut that down. 
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realize this happens, I think 
this kind of stuff happens. 

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A lot more often. 
Probably the most major event 

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that your family has ever faced 
where you needed the system to 

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help you and then it let you 
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So the system this seems to be 
like for some people. 

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All they treat them with kid 
gloves, you know, these violent 

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offenders, and then people that 
want some kind of recourse for 

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what they've been through. 
They get the brass knuckles from

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that, I've definitely our 
family, got the brass knuckles. 

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Yes. 
And 100% that actually got 

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reminding me. 
That's a big point. 

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Is I called the cops his nose. 
Like you know you guys got you 

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guys keep the wrong story and 
then yes. 

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And I was like, also I think 
it's really important to what 

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Lisa names B, so a the public 
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I'm sorry. 
How do they get absolutely no 

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punishment, right? 
Like no, we can't release the 

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nation can release the knees? 
Yeah, this. 

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But the news article said that 
they knew each other, if they 

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knew each other, how we don't 
have their names. 

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Yeah. 
Doctor makes itself is a flaw 

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clearly. 
Nobody knows anybody. 

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There is no name. 
This is a random attack. 

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My mom doesn't know like to talk
about the police. 

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Nice, the, the ambulance and 
then, what happened to your 

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mom's property, and then go into
the treatment that she had at 

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the hospital. 
So, she, the ambulance arrives. 

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They bring her into the car and 
my mom's fast. 

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So, when I said, when she jumped
in to help my brother, she threw

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her book and she threw her 
purse. 

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She's now asking, actually, can 
you please grab my purse? 

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Can you grab my purse with me? 
Talk to you. 

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Let me go. 
Grab my A person I'm fine. 

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I really want to crop it. 
My mom is so old-school. 

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Jew brings everything in her 
bag, her passport personal, my 

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God security number, her births,
everything into her back. 

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Her life is in her bad and they 
cropped her book but not her 

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bag. 
Don't eases its. 

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Maybe what happened? 
The cops still don't know. 

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Oh god. 
Oh, they're in the ambulance. 

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They told her. 
Yes, we have your bag. 

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Okay, no worries. 
They had to admit. 

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She's now begging them. 
Can you call my daughter? 

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Can you call my daughter? 
Can you call my dog? 

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Because now they have to deal 
with my brother to survive Bond,

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us alone, completely okay. 
They didn't call me until 9 p.m.

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that day. 
So, and she had to beg beg, one 

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of the ladies in the hospital to
take pity on her, and call me 

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out to eat rats when I was 
there. 

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Make sure you thank her because 
everybody took her. 

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Make sure you think me. 
No one takes me. 

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Seriously, I don't speak the 
language. 

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They think I'm crazy. 
I was just trying to get you to 

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come here. 
I'm hot. 

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I arrived my covered in blood. 
Of course, when the like the odd

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shock, let me clean. 
And I'm trying to hold it 

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together for sure. 
Of course. 

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I wanted to break down crying. 
Like I got to keep it together. 

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I have to see it to know what's 
going on and it was just shit. 

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Sorry, I figure. 
We'll do they take so from 

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Richmond, what hospital do they 
end up taken? 

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Or to Beta for to Fiji? 
Wow, then that's quite a way. 

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It's like from Richmond to VG H.
So they took her to vgh because 

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they took those guys to Richmond
hospital. 

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She Sustained serious injuries. 
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life-threatening. 
So her her right cheek, bone is 

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completely broken Jesus and her 
bone above her, cheekbone side 

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of her, I shattered. 
Oh my God. 

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Yeah. 
Come to think they hit her with 

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something. 
Like did I got like a pipe or to

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stick the force to do that? 
I mean, I think you have three 

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people punching, you kick. 
Your name a denial but I really 

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don't even want to think and 
imagine them hitting my mom with

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the weapon. 
Oh yeah. 

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So I hope not. 
Yeah of course of course. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah serious injuries. 

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Like you know again then you're 
going to concussion brain, 

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trauma, brain injury. 
It's a real Miracle. 

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She survived in my opinion. 
So this it serious. 

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Yeah, I think I like this is so 
silly but I think she survived 

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to keep taking care of her kids 
prefer that strong. 

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But yeah, its release and also 
at this to have in her back. 

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She needed stitches. 
Oh my God. 

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Yeah, so that's happening where 
I VG H, this ice, you can 

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imagine she's pretty badly 
concussed, and she's now huh? 

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Painted these statements, and I 
even remember thinking this is 

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such an appropriate time to ask.
I get it legally under skull, 

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literally crushed, like 
literally, like there, and then 

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there, I can you make a 
statement. 

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Well, maybe not feeling well 
right now. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Settlements. 
They grab it, grab statements 

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and everything. 
The whole handling, the 

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situation I will say was so poor
there was a nation cop that 

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arrived after the scene Pratap 
that arrived at the scene. 

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After the whole event, he met my
mom at the hospital. 

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That was his first time seeing 
her I believe, or at least 

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that's what he meet dumped me. 
He was sweet and this important 

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why I think it was also hard for
him to see that. 

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Oh yeah, he heard he has a mom, 
right? 

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Exactly. 
And he even understood his arms.

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So sorry I have to take the 
sleep in, but I have to, he's 

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being very patient and he was 
just so kind and my mom couldn't

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stops you're sick. 
I need my back and he's my back.

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He's my whole life is in my bag.
I don't want these people 

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finding my identity. 
I don't want them knowing my 

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address like, please. 
And like, no, no, no. 

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We have your back. 
We have your back for sure. 

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So the cop explains to me. 
I'm not allowed to release this 

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because it's in custody, right 
faking. 

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My mom is begging just like we 
didn't 224 attack. 

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Why are we getting punished? 
So he was so nice. 

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Like no, I'm going to go look 
for your bag. 

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You're right because looking for
his our bags and We had my 

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brother's bags, which he returns
to. 

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That was nice. 
But my mom's like, I'm sorry. 

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Your bags, not in our, like, we 
don't we don't, we actually 

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don't have it. 
So at some point, either they 

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ran with my mom's bag after they
left for The cops didn't grab it

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and someone had taken it after 
we don't know. 

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These people are out waiting for
their day in court. 

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Wow, out free tune with a long 
as we need for this court date, 

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believe it or not, and of 
course, I'm listening to 

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everything you're saying, but my
mind is still at that statement.

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You made the 41 year old, just 
punched my mother in the face. 

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I mean, I'm sorry, but if I 
just, I'm, if I was able to do 

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something like that and be let 
go. 

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Yeah. 
Oh, I can do it. 

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It's ridiculous. 
How's everyone doing? 

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Under these circumstances, 
Richard horrific ordeal, my mom 

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has a very bad PTSD. 
She's terrified her house, my 

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brother actually is well, he 
stared good, staying that Came 

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from this, he's off drugs, 
right? 

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That he. 
So they're both traumatized 

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scaring. 
My he literally, she won't be 

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the house. 
She won't go for you really 

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could be sad and the most 
heartbreaking part of this, my 

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family. 
Can't understand why the system 

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has to be able done so hard so 
hard and how these people are 

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out and how the news article 
wrote the story in manipulated 

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it in lied. 
There's a few things going on 

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here. 
The social implications of all 

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this, we have a drug issue, 
which we talked about and it's 

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been going on for a long time 
and then the medical system, 

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which is supposed to provide 
rehab and detoxing and stuff. 

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Seems You have failed and now 
the alternative is provide them 

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with safe, drugs or clean drugs.
I've had conversations about 

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that. 
I interviewed this guy named 

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Jerry Martin, that was going to 
supply, clean drugs, of course, 

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to first day of operations, he 
got arrested, which I even 

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brought up in the interview, 
aren't you afraid of getting 

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arrested, the see these kind of,
hairbrained Solutions and stuff.

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But there's no common sense 
applied to them. 

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They have mental health issues. 
So they're not responsible for 

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their actions, they have drug 
issues. 

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They're not responsible. 
Or for their actions. 

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But there's also has to be some 
common sense when someone does a

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monstrous atrocity. 
They should not be allowed to be

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walking in society. 
It just simple as that, when 

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someone oversteps the line, 
regardless, if they have a drug 

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problem, alcohol problem, or 
just an anger problem, and they 

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beat up an old lady, almost beat
her to death and stabbed her, 

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and then they're released. 
And then in the system and the 

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media, it's just kind of a 
shoulder shrug. 

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Oh well, but to your family, 
this is a tragedies or 

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heartbreak as he just said, your
mom's and fear your brothers and

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fear. 
This is probably going to change

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your Families, Dynamic, for the 
rest of your life. 

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No empathy, or support or 
anything. 

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It's tragic. 
My heart goes out to you. 

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And by, like, crying what 
happened to your mother? 

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I witnessed something like that.
It would probably break me. 

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It did I had, I have no, I have 
no words to describe the anger 

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frustration and I can help with 
But we are lucky enough where we

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were able to get a lawyer, a 
really good good, good. 

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And it's only after that, that's
when stuff now actually started 

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responding. 
Of course, now will respond to 

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you. 
Yeah. 

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Now whereas before I mean I 
called the cops the very next 

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day to inform them, hey if you 
guys didn't take my mom's back, 

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do you check these people? 
You just release. 

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They have it like Italy. 
We made a report I call later 

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on, like we never got that 
report. 

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We don't have that. 
No, you never let God. 

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So that's enough like no, no 
sorry. 

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Fuck this, we're getting a 
lawyer. 

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Your story is beyond 
heartbreaking. 

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It's monstrous I elderly lady 
being treated about way. 

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Like I said, we were fortunate 
enough. 

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I mean, my family, we don't have
money but I am lucky where I am 

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with someone. 
Who's their family are the 

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complete polar opposite of mine,
right? 

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Actually, especially speaking 
and they have power, they have 

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pole. 
So we have The best lawyers, who

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is taking this on? 
Hopefully, something happens. 

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And what I'm hoping and my whole
goal of even speaking out about 

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this, I want, like I said, I 
don't think this is a special 

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case. 
I think people just don't talk 

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about it. 
Don't know where to go for help 

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writing on board to, I want for 
other people to come forward to 

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also, I want there to be helped 
so I would even left to if this 

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happens to other people who 
don't have finances or I don't 

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have to language and feel like 
there's no hope no help. 

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I want to then start something 
and be able to help out the 

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families and be able to support 
them and get lawyers involved or

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something is ridiculous. 
We don't have a voice people get

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taken advantage of. 
Yeah. 

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There. 
I mean you come to Canada for a 

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better life and this is what you
get. 

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It's awful. 
It makes me angry. 

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Let's say none of you guys had 
good language skills. 

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So this probably does happen 
more often than we want to talk 

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about or admit that it happens. 
We're Bringing people here, not 

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really giving the full details 
of what their life could be like

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or potentially with this 
escalation of violence. 

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And because they may not know 
the system while English is a 

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second language, more 
vulnerable. 

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In my opinion, that they're 
probably even targeted, because 

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lot of the random violence that 
I've been covering has been 

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happening in the, Chinese 
Community Chinese elderly. 

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People being blasted with bear 
spray attacked. 

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My posted one video of an 80 
year old man. 

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With a walking stick is guide is
Goals and Blossom, again, what 

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kind of monster can do that? 
I've heard in from people, in 

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the Chinese community, that 
people were targeting Chinese 

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people because they think they 
don't speak English. 

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And lot of times there are also 
embarrassed Bo going to the 

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police. 
Could they a shame that this 

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happen or embarrassment? 
So they become ideal targets 

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because of that. 
Disgusting. 

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We shouldn't allow this. 
No that's disgusting. 

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And what you brought? 
It up the embarrassment. 

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By the way, my family felt that 
they feel that way. 

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It's a me talking about this 
right now. 

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I mean, there's so nervous about
it because they, they don't want

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this out in the open, but afraid
of recourse people need. 

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We need to start talking. 
We need to start flying at leas 

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to be there for one another, to 
try and change this. 

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See what we can do. 
The silence obviously isn't 

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doing anything. 
I started this platform to speak

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with victims are directly 
impacted by to work with 

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families that are unfortunately 
have lost sons and daughters in 

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the most tragic ways and talking
to people like yourself because 

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this is the impact of a pain in 
the suffering that your mom and 

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your brother has experience from
this. 

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The post-traumatic stress. 
They're afraid to go out in 

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their Community now it's very 
debilitating. 

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If in my opinion there's no No, 
excuse for it and we should do 

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better as a society. 
I like to give a voice to the 

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voiceless, I'm hoping that 
someone will hear this. 

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And in this could facilitate 
some change, your hearing your 

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story, hearing your testimony 
because even if you're sitting 

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in judgment, oh, the brother did
drugs. 

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No mom should know and whatever,
you know, fucking stupid shit 

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that's going in your head right 
now. 

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The point is and I mean to 
swear, but the point is, this 

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could happen to you. 
It can happen to your love. 

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Going to could happen to your 
mother. 

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It can happen to someone you 
care about and then see how woke

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you'll feel about it. 
I post stuff Paulina. 

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That is monstrous like this guy,
he went to North Vancouver and 

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stabbed a bunch of people and I 
had people in the comments 

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saying, oh he was having a 
mental breakdown. 

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You shouldn't be posting, maybe 
there have been lucky enough to 

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not have a violence incident 
which is EE spend enough time in

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Metro Vancouver. 
It's almost like a lottery. 

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It's not like because you're 
special and smarter you That's 

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why it's a hence the randomness 
of it, it can happen to me. 

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It can happen to, you can happen
to anybody, and that's the 

453
00:24:51,700 --> 00:24:53,400
concern. 
And that's the thing that 

454
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600
everyone should care about. 
And how do we prevent this from 

455
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,600
happening, right? 
Yeah, I was going to say because

456
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,600
all those people that do you 
have negative comments to say 

457
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:06,300
and as I said, I didn't want to 
hide it. 

458
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:07,700
That's what my first things I 
said was. 

459
00:25:07,700 --> 00:25:10,600
No, my brother is an addict. 
He actually, I'm not going to 

460
00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,000
hide. 
I know that confirm like he 

461
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,100
chose that like a, that's not 
what happened, you don't. 

462
00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:19,000
Also you don't know why someone 
goes into drugs, you don't know 

463
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,000
what, you're not sitting here 
listening to their entire life 

464
00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:26,300
story and who are you to judge? 
Be fuck off. 

465
00:25:26,300 --> 00:25:28,400
See ya. 
So lucky. 

466
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,200
I'm jealous that you think 
nothing's happened to you. 

467
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:36,400
So sounds like so happy for you 
that you're looking with what 

468
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,400
you said like a lottery ticket 
life. 

469
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:39,900
Yeah, hopefully goes on that 
way. 

470
00:25:39,900 --> 00:25:44,300
But it very easily. 
Could not know it's hurt some 

471
00:25:44,300 --> 00:25:47,000
statistic. 
Look just resize a soft top my 

472
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,000
head. 
I might be inaccurate, but 

473
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:53,200
they're saying that Millennials 
in that Millennial Generation Y,

474
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:57,100
not a three person has known 
someone had lost their life to 

475
00:25:57,100 --> 00:26:00,600
drug addiction. 
It's such a tragic monstrous 

476
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,700
problem for society and the 
things that I've been watching 

477
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:07,800
this in Vancouver for 30 years 
started about 1990 in Hastings 

478
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:11,300
Street Anna, a century was 
always a rough Street. 

479
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,800
I remember my mom would take me 
to Woodward's wears a Woodward's

480
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,000
gross. 
Department store in the only 

481
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,800
people that were kind of sketchy
or we just call them Winos older

482
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,600
men that were bombs of drink 
alcohol on street, right? 

483
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000
Cheap wine. 
They were basically harmless, 

484
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,000
they ask you for money, my mom, 
shoo them away and they would 

485
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,800
just comply. 
Then about the gold, 1995 crack 

486
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,800
cocaine. 
And what the hell happened? 

487
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,100
Just people out on the streets. 
Cracking up with not a care in 

488
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:42,700
the world and ever since 1895 it
just gotten worse worse worse, 

489
00:26:42,700 --> 00:26:45,900
as they pour more money and they
spend over a des on the downtown

490
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:48,300
Eastside, they spent over a 
million dollars a day and 

491
00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:49,900
services. 
But yeah. 

492
00:26:49,900 --> 00:26:53,500
And then on the other side of 
it, the people that use drugs, a

493
00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:56,900
million dollars worth of drugs a
day, which a big economy. 

494
00:26:56,900 --> 00:26:59,500
The side effect of it's gotten 
out of control. 

495
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:04,500
So we're basically turning into 
an open-air psychiatric ward. 

496
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,300
Where we allow the psych 
patients to do drugs and now, 

497
00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:10,800
even Legalize It or 
decriminalize. 

498
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,800
Got Ariza right terms. 
I'm a little right was all 

499
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:16,300
legalized of to chromium, right?
Because yeah, that makes the 

500
00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:19,100
same difference right now. 
Either allowed up, crystal meth,

501
00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:21,200
and go. 
Did I wake up and I'm in an 

502
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,400
episode of The Block mirror or 
the Twilight Zone. 

503
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,100
I don't recognize this Society. 
I don't I try to be fast and 

504
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:31,700
look at all the different angles
and sides of it, but when 

505
00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:38,000
someone's mother has the most 
her life ended Then it's time to

506
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,600
wake up 100%. 
And even my brother, by the way,

507
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,000
who's an addict. 
Yeah, very addicted and you 

508
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000
would think he would be excited 
about the safe injection sites. 

509
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,600
Like fuck yeah, sorry. 
But you said yeah, yeah, this 

510
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,700
making it so hard. 
He's like it's so hard. 

511
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:59,700
I don't want to do this and want
help and it's impossible because

512
00:27:59,700 --> 00:28:03,300
you want to fix its the East. 
It's the easiest thing to do. 

513
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:07,100
Yeah, I don't understand. 
It's impossible. 

514
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:11,900
I mean, Wow, it's just it's so 
angering. 

515
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:16,500
The city does not. 
It's almost like they tell you 

516
00:28:16,500 --> 00:28:19,100
oh yeah we want we want to make 
it safe for users. 

517
00:28:19,300 --> 00:28:21,400
That's why we're opening this 
with safe, injections, ice and 

518
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:22,800
this and this and that's a 
No-No. 

519
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,100
Why can't we put that into real 
rehab centers? 

520
00:28:26,100 --> 00:28:31,100
Yes, yeah, paying I don't know, 
nurses or something. 

521
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:35,600
There's like or organizations as
even hands out free drugs on the

522
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:40,600
downtown east side but If you're
trying to clean people off and 

523
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,200
it's like a detoxing thing. 
Like for example, there was a 

524
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,400
program with think it was with 
Coastal Health and it was for 

525
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,500
severe alcoholism. 
If someone goes cold turkey off 

526
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:53,500
alcohol they can actually have 
seizures. 

527
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:56,100
It's pretty serious. 
They did this program where they

528
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:58,300
would come into the hospital 
would be a nurse a. 

529
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:01,200
I could go where in the hospital
they could have a glass of wine,

530
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,700
every couple of hours, it was 
just too kind of wean them off 

531
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:07,500
but they're being supervised. 
I have a nurse, have it to get a

532
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:10,300
check-up, they get their blood 
pressure taken, dive interval. 

533
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:13,800
I feel in this is like horrible.
Like honestly follows this 

534
00:29:14,300 --> 00:29:17,900
someones mother game that to 
beat In like that and stabbed. 

535
00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:21,000
And then that we don't even know
who they are. 

536
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,800
They're just like out and about 
like God, like I want to know 

537
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:28,700
who this scumbag is Jesus. 
When they do release his name 

538
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:34,300
and picture, I'll post on 
prominently, I promised God, 

539
00:29:35,300 --> 00:29:37,700
thank you very, very much for 
hearing my story. 

540
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:39,900
And for speaking out about it I 
really appreciate it. 

541
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:43,600
Yeah, we'll keep me posted if 
there's any enough all up on 

542
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:44,800
him. 
I'm very heartbroken here. 

543
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,600
This and very distraught. 
Really, I'm glad your brother is

544
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,800
doing better. 
I'm glad your mom's recovering 

545
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,300
from these horrible injuries and
it's going to take a long time 

546
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:56,800
for them to recover 
psychologically, and glad that 

547
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:01,200
you have Resources and can get 
help and being brave to talk 

548
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,000
about this because it's really 
troubling. 

549
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,600
Thank you very very good image. 
Okay. 

550
00:30:07,700 --> 00:30:10,300
Well they take care you guys who
have thanks for talking to me. 

551
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:10,700
I