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You love my feed my. 
Sheep. 10 to my Lambs. 

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You do. 
That's a big. 

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One. 
Let's go. 

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We're here, bro. 
What's going on, man? 

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We're here. 
We finally made it. 

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It's like a dream, man. 
Bro this feels surreal. 

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Who would have thought that two 
men of God, brothers different 

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parts of the world will be on a 
podcast, but here we are. 

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We're here. 
Hey man, we're on this simple 

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Whoa, I almost said the simple 
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not on this. 
Shout out to my brother. 

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Shout out to Prof is the simple 
gospel podcast. 

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We are on the Shepherd's bench 
podcast right here myself. 

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Pastor Randolph, talk to me, how
you feeling? 

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Great man, great How you 
feeling? 

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Bro I can't lie, it feels 
amazing. 

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This feels surreal, but 
honestly, I feel like it's it's 

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time. 
I think that there's some things

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that and perspectives of you 
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can definitely bring to this 
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I feel like there's a lot of 
voices in it, but I feel like in

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this time in, in, in, in space 
that we need to be able to also 

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jump in and bro, we're, we're 
here, we're here. 

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Why don't we bring the people 
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let's get into that story a bit.
So how did you hear about me? 

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And then I'll get to those. 
Let's see what's the best memory

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here. 
OK, so I met you at Emmanuel 

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Smith's concert at the O2, One 
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'S true true. 
I think it was a shepherd's. 

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No, not shepherd, one of the 
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I think I met you and. 
It was did. 

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Did we meet before the concert 
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It was. 
It was. 

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It was during. 
Yeah, it was during the concert.

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During or after. 
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'Cause I think my first memory I
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numbers. 
OK, OK. 

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Yeah. 
OK, I think it was me, you Prof.

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OK. 
It was Yao. 

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Yes, the Yao. 
Yes, I was there with Nick. 

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Emmanuel Smith, that is what I 
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That was. 
That's the first. 

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So that was actually so so this 
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So we were at the Man of Sits 
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brought me to you. 
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This is one of my brothers, 
Randolph. 

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You need to meet him. 
Shout out to you. 

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Shout out to pastor Yao. 
Shout out to pastor Yao. 

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And he's like, you need to meet 
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Yo, crazy prayer guy. 
This, this. 

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I was like, yo, what? 
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let's, let's, let's see what's 
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And and then when we linked up, 
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don't we get something to eat or
something like that. 

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And then I think it was Emmanuel
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True. 
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Nando's in, you remember the 
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where the one. 
I I don't. 

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I don't really. 
I don't. 

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Remember, no, we met at the the 
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I forget there's a a major one. 
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we had a such a great time. 
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you was from a someone, to be 
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Wow. 
I think we I think we're in 

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Germany back then. 
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your music. 
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this music about this group 
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Ryan, and that was the first 
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So I would say it was more about
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first through a Samoa. 
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meeting was when we met with was
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Is all before pandemic. 
This was all before pandemic. 

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So when we met in that Nando's, 
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down and we were all there and 
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conversation is you were talking
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Really. 
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you said two things you said, 
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in London together. 
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was, yo, this is program we do 
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And you're like, yo, it's a 
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And after, yeah, I was like, 
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like, yo, it's a serious program
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Like what is this program? 
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like, this brother is intense. 
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We were having Nando's over 
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relaxed over chicken and the 
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I understand though. 
But I loved it, I said. 

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I said this guy is a real guy 
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I think, I think for me, it was 
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that's when I really got to sit 
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and some of the things that you 
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I was like, yo, this guy is 
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I, I'm very selective with who I
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And there was actually period 
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actually said that I shouldn't 
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in on YouTube. 
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preachers for a while because it
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sure that I don't lose my 
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know, I know, I know. 
It looks like we are going deep 

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already. 
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And that's the problem. 
That's the problem. 

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You said the first time you were
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intense. 
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in time, I was, I was very much 
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to and I wasn't consuming too 
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And it was during that pandemic 
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you guys. 
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are like minded. 
These are people that I 

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definitely can roll with because
I feel like the things that you 

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were teaching, not just you, I 
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you and Prof I was like, it's, 
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watered down because I, I 
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know, with many, many young 
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almost make it more of 
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when I watched it, I was like, 
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can listen to and beyond, beyond
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guys were very, very, very nice 
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I think our first meeting, it 
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getting to know ourselves. 
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instantaneous. 
I knew. 

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OK, no, these are people that I 
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close to. 
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well, I'm also also like that in
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also on kind of who I relate 
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places where I'm going. 
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come to know that about me. 
I'm very, very selective on 

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those things. 
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and OK, this is somebody that I 
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relationship with. 
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for me was during the pandemic, 
and I tell you this all the 

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time, I had sent you a message 
and I said, bro, I'm watching 

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your service right now. 
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incredible. 
Like and this was when we were 

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back at meal meet and I saw 
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base and you know, all the band 
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the video. 
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not just saying this because 
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that I would want the whole 
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that you bring and you carry. 
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I think, I think it's it's a 
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You are you are my father in the
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You are my Bishop. 
You are. 

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You are my Bishop. 
I was playing soccer. 

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You grabbed it. 
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And you changed my jersey and 
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But, you know, I think for me, 
the excellence from even back 

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then, it seems as though this 
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you. 
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get into that too much, but just
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Can you just talk to me just a 
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of excellence, did you have it 
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Did you grow with it? 
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Because I see it everywhere in 
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do. 
And I think that's one thing for

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me that made me want to say, OK,
this is somebody that I actually

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want to walk with. 
Well, I mean that coming from 

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you, it's it's something that I 
appreciate and and let us be 

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straight up on this podcast. 
We are not trying to sound 

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patronize. 
It No, no, no. 

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You know, I'm a real guy. 
What you see is what you get. 

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So that coming from you 
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a lot because yo, bro, you what 
you guys are doing is insane. 

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And and listen, if if you don't 
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campus rush. 
You know, whatever, whether it's

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campus rush music, check out the
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I think that you guys are doing 
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you have no idea how many people
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incredibly important because 
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and, and, and see how we can be 
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listening, even if pertaining to
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all of these kind of things will
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I I, I don't know where it 
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always had this thing in me that
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not doing it well, then I won't.
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OK. 
And and growing up I had 111 

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leader, he was called Pastor 
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he used to tell me this, that if
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well. 
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do it well, then don't start it 
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excellence, one has to 
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and have all the great 
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could simply be you may not have
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that you have, the way you, the 
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it and all of these kind of 
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And the second thing for me, and
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our name as Kingdom ambassadors,
it's not just a name, our 

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identity is actually in our 
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So my, my philosophy is this, if
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if I'm going to represent the 
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ensure that in every sense of 
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to be represented. 
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think there is a big irony when 
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preaching things pertaining to 
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about how God is and how great 
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And then you look around and the
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mismatching colors, you know, 
blue curtains, red seats, you 

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know, yellow altar, you know, 
and then and then some way, 

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somehow this is meant to project
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like. 
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know, all of our offices in this
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at the type of offices that are 
CEO sit in our work environment,

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you know, the rooms and all of 
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see the state-of-the-art kind of
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places are set up and how things
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without you going into their 
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they are making. 
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take that company seriously. 
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represent God well, things needs
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sound team any time I was 
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and they came to change the 
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They were going to pay me £100 
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I've never watched a video where
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speaking and somebody has come 
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mic turned off. 
Can you take this other mic and 

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all of these kind of things. 
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the world are going to have the 
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how they work in Isaiah to the 
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shall proceed the law, then it 
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church would have to be people 
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psalmist David said that, you 
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excellent is your name in all 
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an excellent spirit Because of 
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Listen, you don't need to have 
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have, you know, $1,000,000 
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these budgets, but they are not 
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executed things. 
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that if we are going to, you 
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ensure that we we do it 
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campus rush. 
I say this to Dr. Ralph, shout 

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out to Dr. Ralph. 
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I come to Canada and I returned 
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come inspired and there's almost
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come and change. 
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in a certain type of era where a
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to do ministry, I think that 
what Campus Rush represented and

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what you represented as a person
was excellent quality. 

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I mean, guys, look at what time 
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exactly that time, so 12 years 
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That's 12 years in the game. 
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rush. 
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with pasta coffee's ministry. 
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just could see that this is a 
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Bro, no, likewise. 
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allowed us to to meet because I 
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we'll get there as well. 
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to godly friendships or 
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solely be on one level. 
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that I really would love for the
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friendship is not solely just on
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creativity's. 
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levels to be able to allow there
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I will say this, that going back
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stream and the excellence as 
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especially in the middle of a 
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pandemic. 
No one was doing like anything 

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like this. 
But the sound, the video, the 

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programming, everything you were
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serious. 
I'll Fast forward it to when we 

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really, really locked in. 
I came to London, I think we 

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were doing when Young People 
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And I asked you, I said, bro, 
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And I remember you driving all 
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and you didn't come alone. 
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guys and you came in and I was 
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Not only did you come, but I 
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band. 
You said don't worry, my guys 

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are there. 
I said we don't have a sound. 

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You said my guys are there. 
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listening to this who knows 
Pastor Randolph, you know the 

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heart that he has to be able to 
help, the heart that he has to 

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be able. 
He's a selfless man. 

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That's just how he is now. 
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that we can shift it a lot for 
me personally, and I'll get 

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into, and I'll tell you where 
for me, I knew that this is a 

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lock on the spirituality and 
ministerial level beyond. 

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I really appreciate you in terms
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your ideas. 
It became this is covenant. 

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and be able to walk with people,
they need to be able to lock in 

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at the covenant level of 
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And so, so, you know, so 
Jonathan would say my spirit was

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knitted to that, that of David. 
When I laid eyes on David, I saw

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that immediately our hearts 
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I would, I would say this that 
we finished that on the I 

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believe it was a Friday night. 
You left and went to an all 

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night meal meet. 
That that all night was crazy. 

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About that, let's talk. 
No, no, let's talk about that 

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weekend because that weekend 
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It was intense. 
That was an intense weekend. 

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It was intense. 
I think you guys were meant you 

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were you act, you're actually 
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somewhere and then you had to 
which last minute. 

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The night before. 
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Croydon, yes, which in itself 
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because then people in London 
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long. 
It was what what marked me was 

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how you were very willing to 
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minute and still get the event 
done because somebody would have

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said, we, we've planned so much,
We've put in so much things in 

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there. 
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leadership. 
It's a test of character, the 

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ability to make the most crucial
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you're doing it last minute. 
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Shepherd's bench. 
That is one of the things about 

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leadership that that ability to 
make decisions and and be able 

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to shift things and pull things 
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necessarily see that way. 
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thing that that was done. 
But the event itself was great. 

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I remember I came, I came with 
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we're there. 
I think that time was running 

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because it took it took us quite
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Wonderful time, wonderful word. 
I mean, the worship was 

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incredible. 
I mean, that's campus rush 

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music. 
You know, that's campus rush. 

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Your ministries is just 
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And I think that especially in 
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doing incredible works in 
Canada, in America, but I think 

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people in the UK appreciate 
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And I think that they people in 
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appreciate your ministry. 
So, you know, everybody was just

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going crazy. 
You know, Pastor coffee Darte is

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here, Prof is coming down campus
Rush music. 

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That is a big hole. 
But it was, it was really it was

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packed. 
People came all the way. 

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I sat down. 
I remember telling you that I'm 

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not there to do anything. 
I'm just there to support. 

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So we, we sat down and one of 
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when I'm traveling and I'm going
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take my people to come with me 
to learn. 

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One of the greatest ignorance of
ministry is for anybody to think

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that I, I know it all And, and, 
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sets the line. 
You know, that's what sets the 

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difference between an ordinary 
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ordinary ministry and a great 
ministry. 

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We, I remember we, we went to 
Indonesia and, and I'm just 

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saying this at the back of what 
we are discussing pertaining to 

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the event. 
I went to Indonesia and you 

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know, these Asians are very 
protective of their space. 

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And I remember I said something 
to them that changed their game 

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for them. 
I said to them, I said, you know

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what, we may have come from the 
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But we are not here to teach you
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We are here to learn from you. 
So beyond anything else, we are 

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here first and foremost as 
students. 

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I'm, I'm for sorry. 
And for them that was a game 

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changer because they say, you 
know what, people come here all 

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the time and they come with the 
intention of, oh, we are going 

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there. 
We are the ones from America, We

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are the ones from the UK. 
There's a certain pride and 

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arrogance about people from the 
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And they said when they come, 
they are looking at they are 

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looking up on us, as you know, 
the poor guys, you know, in this

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type of world and all of these 
kind of things. 

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But they said you guys are like 
one of the very first people 

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that have come here. 
And they've said to us that they

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are not just here to teach, but 
they are also here to learn. 

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And I think that if we have this
open mindedness as leaders 

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wherever we go to, you know, you
may be invited somewhere because

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you're an apostle, you're a 
prophet or whatever. 

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And then they are bringing you 
there to come there to come and 

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preach and you're the one that 
is anointed and all of these 

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kind of things. 
But if you would open your eyes 

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to many different things, it's 
beyond that 45 minutes on the 

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pulpit, There's a lot you can 
learn. 

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You can learn. 
I think that your hospitality 

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team is one of the most dopest 
hospitality teams I've seen. 

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It's the attention to detail. 
It's it's how hospitable they 

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are. 
And I say to my church all the 

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time, I'm like, you know, I need
to take you guys to Canada and 

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you have to learn from campus 
rush. 

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And I'm bringing a couple of 
them with me this time to, to to

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wildfire. 
So, so I would say that coming 

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to to that program, like I said 
to you, my interest was never to

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come and hold a microphone. 
I don't even think I held a 

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microphone or I said anything. 
For me, the most important thing

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was to come there and learn from
these guys that we've seen 

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online and what they are doing 
and how they do things. 

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And there was a lot of 
inspiration that I had to take 

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with my team in terms of, you 
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And I know that trying to do 
something outside of your 

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country, it's not the easiest. 
It's very, very easy to do 

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something. 
It's, it's, it's easier for me 

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to do something incredible in in
the UK because you know that the

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people are here. 
I have my base, I have all of 

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these kind of things, but for 
you guys to come from Canada and

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do that event, I think that it 
was it was incredible and and 

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beyond watching, you know, you 
guys online and all of that, it 

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was just great to just sit down 
and watch you in person. 

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But I remember we are having a 
crazy all night that night. 

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I want us to get in so. 
So we had to, you know, I think 

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somewhere around 10:11-ish we, 
we had to leave in and come in 

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and that was insane. 
No, that that all night I 

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remember I couldn't make it, but
I was hearing of that. 

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I saw things on like Instagram, 
whatever, and I was like, Yo, 

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this look insane, like nothing 
I've never seen before. 

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And just just to to put it down 
and into that weekend you had 

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left early, But then you would 
also asked that I'd come by on 

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this Sunday to come and 
minister. 

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And I was, I was, I think this 
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first time that I was preaching 
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I believe. 
So I don't think that I had ever

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preached on a Sunday morning in 
in London or in the UK. 

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You know, Europe wasn't a place 
that I frequented you. 

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London wasn't a place I 
frequented. 

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So I remember I came with Ray 
and I came with Reggie and I 

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remember so clearly that Sunday 
morning arriving, I had no idea 

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I'm going to church. 
I don't know if you remember, I 

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was wearing my Gray suit, white 
pinstripes. 

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I was, I can remember like 
yesterday. 

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I have my boots on as always. 
I had, you know, my black shirt 

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inside. 
I had a, had a trench coat over,

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you know, as London. 
I'm going to church in London. 

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That's what I'm thinking. 
And my brothers are all dressed 

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up. 
They have their trench coats 

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like, you know, European style. 
And we arrived at meal meet and 

445
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,480
the Uber dropped us off at the 
front of meal meet. 

446
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:59,760
And we're trying to call you 
because we can't. 

447
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,320
We can't find out where you are.
We're calling. 

448
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:03,520
We're texting. 
We don't know. 

449
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,120
You're like, OK, don't worry, 
we're going to come. 

450
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:10,720
This guy's is my first 
impression of KC. 

451
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,520
I'm telling you right now, this 
is my first impression. 

452
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:19,600
I see. 
Apostle Randolph AJ come from 

453
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,920
the door of meal Meat walking 
with Apostle Obed. 

454
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,000
And there was another gentleman.
I'm not sure it was just maybe 

455
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:31,560
the two of you walking. 
I see that you have camel pants.

456
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,880
On yeah, I remember. 
Rolled up till. 

457
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:34,760
Here. 
Yes, Sir. 

458
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,400
Why this guy's camel pants 
rolled up? 

459
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:43,800
He had A at shirt, maybe a white
or black T-shirt, and Auk flag 

460
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,680
around his neck with black 
sneakers. 

461
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:54,600
I said bro, where am I going? 
And I see this man walking and 

462
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:55,760
he's a bro. 
You ready? 

463
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,440
I'm like, what do you mean? 
Are you ready? 

464
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,680
I'm like, I think so. 
I hope so. 

465
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,680
I come in and you walk me. 
We go into, you know, your 

466
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:09,840
office area and everything and 
then we you know, you're like, 

467
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,400
yo bro, don't worry. 
Feel out home this your 

468
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,400
churches, your house. 
And I automatically I felt like,

469
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,360
wow, OK, this is a place that I 
can be. 

470
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,200
And I'll tell you that that 
wasn't where it clicked for me. 

471
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:25,000
I walked into the sanctuary and 
the voltage of prayer power, I 

472
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,280
think if anybody. 
I think Sophia was leading 

473
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:27,760
prayer. 
I can. 

474
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,240
Never forget. 
Yeah, I can never forget because

475
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:35,640
you have to understand in Canada
it was still locked down times. 

476
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,240
We were still in a bit of a 
lockdown post COVID and Canada, 

477
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,160
we really, really were 
restricted. 

478
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,680
So you can understand that. 
Prayer meetings, we weren't 

479
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:45,840
having prayer meetings. 
We weren't praying in corporate 

480
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,720
settings. 
We were praying at home. 

481
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:49,880
We were doing when young people 
pray online, praying with 

482
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,240
hundreds and thousands online, 
but we weren't praying but you 

483
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,720
know the gathering of the 
Saints. 

484
00:25:55,120 --> 00:25:59,960
And so walking in from 2 years 
of no prayer meetings in person 

485
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,520
of 102 hundred people to now 
walking into a condensed room. 

486
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,040
You know how meal Mead is 
condensed room with a woman 

487
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,320
maybe 5 foot. 
You know what I mean? 

488
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,520
You know, standing on a chair, 
you know, praying and the 

489
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,960
voltage and the. 
You know, you know the crazy 

490
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,560
thing a lot of people thought 
Casey was a lot. 

491
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,800
Okay. 
But sitting back and watching, I

492
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:31,280
think they are right because 
because there are some videos I 

493
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,840
watching new meat. 
I'm like, this is too much. 

494
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,400
Like I'm watching some videos 
now and I'm like, like yo, bro, 

495
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,800
like yo this. 
Is like. 

496
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,520
It's intense. 
It's like people on drugs. 

497
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,960
No, it was I'm telling you, it 
was so intense. 

498
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,200
Halfway through, I had to go 
outside just to get fresh. 

499
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,920
No, no, no, this is exclusive on
the Shepherd's Bench podcast. 

500
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,040
I had to go outside to like, 
what am I like what is happening

501
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,240
here? 
Because it the the music, the 

502
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,080
prayer was rising to a certain 
level. 

503
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,840
I said, there's something is 
going to break. 

504
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,000
Like it was to the point whereby
I don't know if you remember 

505
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,440
that you could we could go back.
It was to the point whereby it 

506
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,760
almost a glass could have 
shattered like the voltage. 

507
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,480
And I'm a spiritual person. 
So when I'm walking into an 

508
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:18,200
atmosphere, I'm sensing things 
and I'm like, whoa, my spirit 

509
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,960
man was energized. 
And this is what I always sense 

510
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,680
every time I go to upper room, 
every time I go to KC service or

511
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,200
anything KC related or and just 
being around you, I feel 

512
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,680
energized. 
I was on the plane coming and I 

513
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,480
was telling the Lord, I said 
Lord, yes, I'm gonna go and 

514
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,640
minister, but I'm like, Lord, I 
want a refreshing. 

515
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,280
I was praying. 
I said, God, I want a refreshing

516
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,760
because I said every time I come
here I get better. 

517
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:42,400
Every time I come here I get 
sharper. 

518
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,840
Every time I come here, I get 
hungrier and you know, iron 

519
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,640
sharpeneth iron. 
And I think that's one thing 

520
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,040
that has become a blueprint or a
staple. 

521
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,720
You know, if I could say that to
our friendship, our brotherhood 

522
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,320
has been iron sharpeneth iron. 
I learned so much from you. 

523
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,560
And I think that that connection
right in that room in meal Mead,

524
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:08,480
seeing the passion of prayer, I 
realized in that moment what my 

525
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,200
movement was missing. 
And I think that for leaders, 

526
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,880
there was a sense and there's a 
place in maturity where you have

527
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,640
to get to to realize not what 
you have, but what you don't 

528
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,920
have. 
Wow, going going to and I. 

529
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,360
And so I think a lot of the 
times we zero in on what we 

530
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:27,120
have, like, OK, I'm talented, I 
can preach, I can teach, I can 

531
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:28,360
do this. 
But there are some things that 

532
00:28:28,360 --> 00:28:31,240
you don't have right? 
And that's why the Bible says 

533
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,520
that I will give you, you know, 
shepherds, I made some apostles,

534
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,120
some teachers, some prophets, 
some evangelists, you know, for 

535
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:39,720
the edification of the church, 
for the building of the church, 

536
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,000
meaning this, that in order for 
there to be like you always say,

537
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,160
in order for the whole council 
of God to be revealed, there 

538
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:50,360
needs to be different gifts to 
come in and to augment the work.

539
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,880
And so if you don't have a 
certain grace, you bring in 

540
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,600
somebody who has that grace. 
Your people are edified. 

541
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,160
The full counsel of God is 
released. 

542
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,280
You know you, we have a brother,
you know, Prophet Baleke, we 

543
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,000
bring him in, He comes, he 
releases the mind of Christ. 

544
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,280
You know, the Apostolic, the 
teaching, the prophetic, you 

545
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,880
know, all the ministry, the 
deliverance, the music, the 

546
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,240
psalmistry comes together in 
order to beautifully weave 

547
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,320
together an amazing tapestry. 
And so I think that in that 

548
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,840
moment I realized we pray, but 
we're not praying. 

549
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Wow. 
And I think that it was for me 

550
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,920
very humbling. 
I remember in that moment that 

551
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,640
it was a service. 
I couldn't even preach that 

552
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:35,280
service because there is a side 
of me that only comes out in 

553
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,200
certain atmospheres. 
And, and I said it on the mic, I

554
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,160
was like, I, I'm not like this 
outside of my church. 

555
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,720
Then I mean, like, I, I, I only 
reserve that if we're doing 

556
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,480
revival meetings, whatever 
within my church, but that I've 

557
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:51,040
never been to a place outside of
my church that has pulled on an 

558
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,440
anointing. 
And that's one thing that I saw,

559
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,960
I saw a people who are hungry to
pull on the anointing, hungry 

560
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,880
for impartation. 
I remember that service being so

561
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,360
crazy. 
It was just ministration from 

562
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:05,360
federal ministry. 
I mean, so many things happened 

563
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,600
in that. 
Moment, I think we were 

564
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,960
watching. 
I think we we were watching that

565
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,320
maybe just about two months ago.
Wow, me fuel, Elijah, all of 

566
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,520
these guys. 
I think we it was a on the 26th,

567
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,840
on the 26th of December. 
OK, after Christmas. 

568
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:28,560
We just had to sit down and just
watch that service again because

569
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,160
because the way you moved, I 
mean, that service was 

570
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,040
monumental. 
No, no, no, no, no. 

571
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:37,760
And to think that that was the 
first service or in gathering, 

572
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,800
both of us were being in there. 
And for me, I think that after 

573
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,520
that service, my mind was 
made-up. 

574
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,360
You know, I was like, you know, 
this guy, there's a guy would 

575
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,320
want to have an upper room. 
There's a guy would have I would

576
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:53,080
want to listen to over and over 
and over again and and I think 

577
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,440
that that's that's where all of 
this, you know, incredible 

578
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,440
friendship began. 
I have a question though, do you

579
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,800
think there are genuine 
friendships in ministry? 

580
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,440
Yes, Sir. 
And, and if yes, what would you 

581
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:11,040
say you look out for? 
OK, in, in, in before I give you

582
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,280
my $0.10 on this matter, what 
what do you look out for? 

583
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,080
But do you think there are there
is space for genuine friendship 

584
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,000
in ministry? 
I do think that there is space 

585
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,360
for genuine friendship in 
ministry. 

586
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:21,960
I think there is a space for it.
Are there many of them? 

587
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,800
No. 
But do I think there's space for

588
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:25,840
it? 
Yes. 

589
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,560
I believe that you need. 
You need covenant friendships, 

590
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,920
you need brothers, you need 
people you can rely on. 

591
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,960
And I'll give an example my and 
I'll never forget this, you 

592
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,920
know, Pastor Randolph, I we've 
done so much in such a short 

593
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,520
amount of time, too many. 
We've done a lot of stuff too 

594
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:47,040
many, like in a short amount of 
time we've done, it's been like 

595
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,440
5 years now, but it feels like 
it's been 1520 years. 

596
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,000
I agree. 
We've done conferences, we've 

597
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,840
traveled, we've gone to Africa, 
we've gone to Asia, we've gone 

598
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,440
to, I mean America, we've gone 
to, we've done a lot of work, 

599
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,120
Europe this crusades that. 
In five years we've done a lot. 

600
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:08,120
And I would say out of 
everything we've done, bro, 

601
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,280
there is one image I will never 
forget. 

602
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,400
It was a picture taken when my 
grandmother had passed and I 

603
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,320
called Pastor Randolph. 
I said my grandmother has passed

604
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:23,160
and my dad, who's a also a 
father to pass around, you know,

605
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,520
dad called and dad said, you 
know, his mother had passed. 

606
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,880
And I'll never forget. 
You bought your own ticket, paid

607
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,560
your own hotel, did everything. 
You flew and you came to Canada.

608
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:38,200
Paul would say that, you know, I
was blessed by your coming. 

609
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,600
And I think that there was there
was some, there was some comfort

610
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,320
when you know that people that 
you love are. 

611
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,200
Coming. 
And they love you beyond the 

612
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,840
pulpit. 
And that's exactly where I'm 

613
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,920
getting to, bro. 
They love you beyond the pulpit.

614
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,320
That wasn't a preaching 
assignment, even though we had 

615
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,680
some revival meeting, but that 
wasn't the preaching assignment.

616
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,280
That wasn't, hey, there's 
wildfire, there's YOFI, need you

617
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,280
to come. 
This, this, this, I didn't know.

618
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,320
No, this was my grandmother had 
passed. 

619
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:12,480
And my brother is saying this 
brotherhood doesn't stop if I'm 

620
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,640
not being invited. 
And I think that's the issue is 

621
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,320
that we have superficial 
friendships in ministry because 

622
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,160
people are looking for money or 
platform, platform 

623
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,920
opportunities, whatever have 
you, money opportunities, 

624
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,920
platforms, this connections, 
this whatever to be seen to be 

625
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:34,160
platform. 
But I feel as though, or I know 

626
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,680
that when you said you were 
coming, not only did you say it,

627
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,400
but you did it, and it was your 
coming that brought comfort. 

628
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,320
We were burying my grandmother 
and I don't know what happened 

629
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,960
to me. 
I was as we were carrying her 

630
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:56,520
casket out into the Hearst. 
I just look to my right. 

631
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,600
I see my cousins bawling their 
eyes out. 

632
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,400
I've these are cousins that I've
never seen cry before. 

633
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,760
Like I'm looking at my older 
cousins like I have never seen 

634
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,800
you shed a tear and you're 
crying. 

635
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,040
I look to my other side in front
of me, my cousins. 

636
00:34:09,639 --> 00:34:13,520
Everybody is in sorrow. 
And that is the moment it hit me

637
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:17,080
as I was carrying my late 
grandmother, that she's gone. 

638
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:25,000
My world began to turn. 
It felt like the sky was opening

639
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,760
and the ground was shaking. 
I was looking and tears were 

640
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,000
coming out of my eye that I 
couldn't control and I couldn't 

641
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,639
put back into my eyes. 
And as I was there, I began to 

642
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:39,600
wobble, wobble, wobble. 
And as I was about to fall, 

643
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,280
guess who is there? 
Pastor Randolph. 

644
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,560
And you're there. 
And you hold me right before I 

645
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:47,320
fall. 
You remember I? 

646
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,719
Remember. 
And you said to be absent from 

647
00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:52,920
the body, to be present with the
Lord. 

648
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,360
I can never forget. 
Wow, you see, I don't remember I

649
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,440
said that. 
Yes, you said that. 

650
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,400
And you see, those are things 
that I remember because those 

651
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,880
are the moments that define 
friendship, because that let me 

652
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,640
know that this is not a ministry
friendship because the truth of 

653
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,200
the matter is that one day. 
We won't be preaching, no. 

654
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,520
We won't, we will not be doing 
church, we will not be doing 

655
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000
ministry, will not be doing, you
know, maybe be ministry in 

656
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,560
another form. 
But in some years to come, there

657
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:25,240
may be a moment whereby, beyond 
the pulpit, I just need a 

658
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:28,520
brother that I will be blessed 
by his. 

659
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,280
Coming. 
And that is the frustration of 

660
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,000
friendships and ministry. 
And so that exactly. 

661
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,200
And so I've just showed a 
positive side of it saying that 

662
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,320
I've seen how you have been able
to be and you are a friend 

663
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:42,520
beyond the pulpit. 
But the truth is, how many 

664
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,440
people can really say, I have a 
friend who will buy their own 

665
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,160
ticket, get their own hotel, 
show up in my city, not for a 

666
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:56,400
revival, not for a platform, not
for a paycheck, but so that they

667
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,600
could be blessed by my coming 
the presents. 

668
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,680
So with that, to answer your 
question, is there a space yes, 

669
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,320
because I see how God has 
knitted this together in that is

670
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,960
it happening? 
I mean, from what I can see and 

671
00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,240
the places that I've gone and 
the places that I go, I don't 

672
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:19,920
see deep rooted friendships. 
I see surface level friendships.

673
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,560
I don't know how it is on your 
end and what you see in your you

674
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,640
want to weigh on. 
I think maybe in one of the 

675
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,200
episodes, we, we, we can discuss
maybe trauma and, and, and maybe

676
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,440
the pain of ministry and how 
some leaders are feeling. 

677
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:37,280
And maybe that is why everybody 
kind of have their guards are. 

678
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:40,080
But yeah, I remember, I remember
that funeral very well. 

679
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,600
I would say that that funeral, 
more than anything, it spoke to 

680
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,200
me more about the character and 
the president of Dr. Ralph. 

681
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,920
Even though I had come for you 
as a brother, had come for him 

682
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,080
as a father and all my brothers,
you know, Ray, Reggie and Ralph.

683
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,040
It's when I got then Dr. Ralph 
told me to to speak. 

684
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,400
The system is working. 
Yeah, yeah. 

685
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:05,720
When, when, when, when, when, 
when Pops told me to speak at 

686
00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:07,000
your grandmother's funeral. 
Yeah. 

687
00:37:07,720 --> 00:37:09,120
You don't just do that. 
My God. 

688
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,280
You don't just do that. 
This is something that you you 

689
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,920
go for a Bishop over you, you go
for a spiritual father, you go 

690
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,480
for all of these kind of things.
But for Doctor Ralph to say, 

691
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:26,520
son, I want you to speak, I had 
to literally go find myself 

692
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,720
someone and say Holy Spirit, 
talk through me because that's 

693
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,800
not what I came for. 
And, and for me, it was just a 

694
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,160
matter of just coming there. 
But for, for, for pops to say, 

695
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:37,400
you know what, son, I want you 
to, to speak. 

696
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,960
You know, I want you to, to 
share the word. 

697
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,120
I want you to just bring a word 
of encouragement. 

698
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:47,840
I was like, oh, you know what? 
This man sees me truly as a son 

699
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,560
and you know, majority of the 
time from the cultural 

700
00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,880
perspective, from an African 
cultural kind of thing, we we 

701
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,840
look from downward up. 
So like I said, in this type of 

702
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,120
situations, you know, that the 
very typical thing for somebody 

703
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,200
to do is to look for somebody 
above him. 

704
00:38:04,240 --> 00:38:07,600
You know, maybe you know, you 
know, the the father of Dr. 

705
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,960
Ralph, a colleague, a senior, 
whatever. 

706
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,480
But the fact that this man said,
son, I want you to to be the one

707
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,880
who brings the word. 
And this is your uncle sitting 

708
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,320
that these are your auntie 
sitting. 

709
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,760
The people that could be my 
biological parents, you know, 

710
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,080
people that I could even be a 
grandson to, you know, people 

711
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,240
that, you know, accomplished in 
life and all of these kind of 

712
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:29,720
things. 
And this is their mother, you 

713
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:33,680
know, down and for old boys to 
say, you know, I want you to 

714
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,840
speak. 
That was that was a game trainer

715
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,520
for me. 
It spoke to me more of about the

716
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:44,000
character of the man, the the 
integrity of the man and I saw 

717
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,400
him. 
Dr. Ralph, something that is not

718
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,520
very common with fathers in 
ministry and would, would, would

719
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,680
explore some of these topics, 
you know, in Subs in subsequent 

720
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,600
episodes, the moment we begin to
record them. 

721
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:58,640
But yes, I, I think that there 
is a genuine place for 

722
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:04,400
friendship biblically, yes, like
you said, we can talk about, you

723
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:07,400
know, the, the Jonathan David 
and all of these kind of things.

724
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:12,840
I don't think there is enough 
evidence beyond the Bible. 

725
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,520
OK. 
And you know, with, with, with a

726
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:23,120
little, with a little time of 
being in ministry, one of the 

727
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,880
things I've recognized is that a
majority of people when they 

728
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,720
come to you, they're just, 
they're just looking at how they

729
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:32,760
ride on you or through you 
opportunity to get to where they

730
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,400
want to be. 
So in the place of ministry, 

731
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:39,480
it's more of a numbers game. 
It's more of an influence game. 

732
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:43,320
It's more of, let me connect to 
this person because this is 

733
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,680
where I want to get to and they 
have what it takes to get me 

734
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,360
there. 
And majority of the time, you 

735
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,360
know, once as long as you are 
able to give them what they're 

736
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,400
looking for, then they look like
they are brothers. 

737
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,200
They can bring you all the gifts
and all of the kind of things 

738
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,840
and things like that. 
But but once they get there, 

739
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,920
it's like it's exploitation. 
We used you to get to where we 

740
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,880
wanted to be. 
And I think that that's that's 

741
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:12,480
the challenge in ministry. 
It's it's the ability to discern

742
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:18,440
and to find who is here 
genuinely for wanting to be here

743
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,240
and separating that from who is 
here to get to where they want 

744
00:40:22,240 --> 00:40:25,600
to be. 
And, and it's, it's very, it's 

745
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,880
very fake. 
It's really, really fake. 

746
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,040
It's, it's, it's a ministry 
thing that is puppeteered. 

747
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,120
So you know someone would invite
you because they want you to 

748
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,720
invite them back. 
And when you invite them once, 

749
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,640
when they invite you once and 
twice and you've not invited 

750
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,160
them back, then it becomes a 
problem. 

751
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,280
Like, oh, this guy, he's 
preached for me two or three 

752
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,160
times, but you know, he's never 
brought me to his church. 

753
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,680
There's a score sheet. 
Exactly. 

754
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,000
And I don't like that. 
And that is why I don't keep too

755
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,760
many ministry friends. 
That is why I don't keep too 

756
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:58,400
many people around because if I 
want to get to know somebody, I 

757
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,120
want to get to know you for you.
I already have this, you know, 

758
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,920
God already built this 
philosophy in my mind already. 

759
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,800
Yes, I understand in the place 
of ministry, you know, God will 

760
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,640
bring you people in, in your way
that will take you to your next 

761
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,120
dimension. 
And, and you know, the solution 

762
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,840
to your issue is in somebody's 
hands and all of these kind of 

763
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:21,560
things that we can never in any 
way, shape or form undermine the

764
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:26,720
power of people or in terms of 
where we want to go and where we

765
00:41:26,720 --> 00:41:30,040
have to be. 
But one of the things a lot also

766
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:35,720
taught me from the beginning was
also this, that never ever build

767
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:39,040
anything with anybody because of
where you want to get to, 

768
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:42,040
because pertaining to where you 
want to get to. 

769
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,840
If nobody can offer it to you, 
I'm going to help you build it. 

770
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:47,120
So let me give you a typical 
example. 

771
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:52,400
Whereas a lot of people are more
concerned about connections. 

772
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,200
You know, some connections are 
too forced. 

773
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:58,080
Some people, let's say, get into
an event like I've been into 

774
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,560
some of the biggest conferences 
and events and afterwards 

775
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,840
there's an opportunity to go to 
the green room and I won't after

776
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,160
sharing the grace, I'll be like,
you know what I sat here, the 

777
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,360
man of God preached and blessed.
I don't need to go to the green 

778
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:14,400
room to go and greet him and and
and and and go on my knees for 

779
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,080
him to put hands on me. 
You know, you know there there's

780
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:20,160
a certain level of importation 
just by one being in an 

781
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,960
environment whatever they are 
speaking is already over you. 

782
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,240
But I've always, I've also seen 
this aspect of ministry, whether

783
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,000
there is this false connection 
building. 

784
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,040
It's like, you know what I need,
I need to, I need to get to know

785
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,920
you, I need to take your number,
I need to do all of these kind 

786
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,720
of things. 
And it is because people 

787
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:44,120
recognize that they can get 
their way to the top by 

788
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:45,760
connections. 
And that's true. 

789
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,640
That is true. 
If you take something like a 

790
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,560
ladder, every step on the ladder
could be people that you can 

791
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,520
absolutely walk on or step on or
get where you have to be. 

792
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,280
But then one of the things that 
the Lord said to me is this. 

793
00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:02,760
And you know, if nobody's 
offering you that opportunity, 

794
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:08,160
genuinely, I have what it takes 
to help you and make you build 

795
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,920
it. 
And there are certain people 

796
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,360
that you see pertaining to 
ministry that you don't see them

797
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,280
on every flyer. 
You know, you know, I don't want

798
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:19,480
to, I don't want to mention 
names on this podcast, but there

799
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,840
are certain men and women that 
they did not get to where they 

800
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,480
were. 
They got to on the basis of the 

801
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,360
Flyers they were on the 
conferences, they they spoke 

802
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:32,320
out. 
You don't judge the importance 

803
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:36,080
in ministry by the fact that 
they spoke in 1000 conferences, 

804
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,520
but they may have just two 
conferences they run in the 

805
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,400
whole year and it bring the 
whole world to them. 

806
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,760
So one of the things that Lord 
said to me is that get to know 

807
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,120
people for who they are, but 
don't get to know people because

808
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:49,720
they can bring you where you 
have to be. 

809
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:53,680
And if nobody's offering you 
that opportunity, I have what it

810
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,000
takes to make you create that 
opportunity. 

811
00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,880
And the Lord said to me, he 
said, you know what, if you go 

812
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:04,000
to somebody, they may give you 
30 minutes, But if I'm the one 

813
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,160
calling you to build it and I 
give you that platform, you may 

814
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,640
have all the time, you have to 
be able to talk about whatever 

815
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,880
you want to talk about and build
whatever you want to build. 

816
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,240
So, you know, I remember when I 
spoke to you, I said it was you 

817
00:44:17,240 --> 00:44:20,320
that took me back to Ghana for 
the first time, you know, for 

818
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,840
ministry. 
I told you I'm not going, I'm 

819
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,640
not going to do. 
And this was after I've had 

820
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,960
several invitations in Ghana. 
I said, I don't want to go. 

821
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,720
You are the one that, you know, 
I think Canada or America or 

822
00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:31,560
whatever. 
And, and it was something that I

823
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,320
had gotten a lot of invitations 
and I was not interested. 

824
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,400
The only reason why I decided to
go with you is because for the 

825
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,040
first time, I recognize this guy
is not here for what he's 

826
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:42,640
looking for. 
He's here. 

827
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:46,320
This friendship is genuine. 
So coming on these roads, not 

828
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,320
even if I didn't speak, I was 
there to just ensure that I'm 

829
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,440
genuinely helping a brother to 
build what he has to build. 

830
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,160
And it doesn't have to be about 
me. 

831
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,560
I remember I was speaking to you
in Canada and I said to you, no 

832
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:02,080
matter how much I come and no 
matter whatever we do, God would

833
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,360
never say to me that campus rush
is your work. 

834
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,160
Randolph, remember I was telling
you that in Canada they say, you

835
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,200
know what, bro? 
Beyond everything, when I come 

836
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,800
here, I'm here to help what you 
are building. 

837
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:17,400
But when it's all said and done,
campus rush is pasta, coffee, 

838
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:20,520
Darte's work. 
It is Prophet Roth. 

839
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,400
That is what God is never going 
to come to me and say, Randolph,

840
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,840
you did a great job. 
You went to build campus rush. 

841
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:29,080
No. 
So when I'm coming, I'm coming 

842
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,760
with this in mind. 
This is the man's work, this is 

843
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,080
his mission. 
I'm there to support it in any 

844
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,360
way, shape or form. 
It can be on the mic, it can be 

845
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,360
off the mic. 
It doesn't matter. 

846
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:44,600
What matters to me is to 
genuinely see my brother do 

847
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,000
well. 
And I think that there are not a

848
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:51,880
lot of people in the space of 
ministry that are there to look 

849
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:57,600
out for the genuine well-being 
of the brother or of the friend.

850
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:02,640
You know, as long as it is 
something that helps them, then 

851
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,960
they would act like, yo, we are 
for you. 

852
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,440
But the moment you know, you cut
off what we are looking for, it 

853
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,720
becomes a problem. 
And, and that is why for a very 

854
00:46:11,720 --> 00:46:17,840
long time, I, I wasn't so much 
open true, you know, friendships

855
00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:20,320
in ministry and, and, you know, 
shout out to, you know, great 

856
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,080
friends like Shamil. 
Shamil is a great brother. 

857
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:27,000
You know, I remember many, many 
years ago, me and Shamil could 

858
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,080
be doing stuff. 
You know, I remember back then, 

859
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,240
we were young and very, very, 
you know, excited about 

860
00:46:32,240 --> 00:46:34,600
ministry. 
And, and I remember we, we, we, 

861
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,880
we started something. 
We would just go from different 

862
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,480
cities, you know, preaching and 
all of that. 

863
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,960
And we'll get them and I'll tell
Shamil, bro, you preach. 

864
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,760
Let me just sit down. 
I don't need to hold the mic. 

865
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,640
The arc of the covenant is with 
you. 

866
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,200
Go ahead and do what you have to
do. 

867
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,040
And I'm genuinely happy that my 
brother is preaching. 

868
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,680
I don't feel like I need to come
and take the mic and and prove 

869
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:55,400
anything. 
And you, you get to certain 

870
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,320
places and you see ministers 
itching. 

871
00:46:57,520 --> 00:46:59,120
You know, it's like they are 
there. 

872
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,680
They are not even on the, on the
on the on the on you get. 

873
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:06,160
To that point, bro, I'm sorry, 
sorry to cut you off, but but 

874
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,480
this is, this is, it's is is too
important to skip over this 

875
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,360
because I know you, you, you not
only have you mean you come, 

876
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,800
you're coming in a few weeks to 
us and you come all the time to 

877
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,400
build. 
You're there with your people. 

878
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,800
You're there head down on 
pulpit, off pulpit. 

879
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,320
I don't want to get into, you 
know, examples in my personal 

880
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,840
life, in my ministerial life, in
my leadership life. 

881
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:34,840
I've seen that how you've been 
able to be there. 

882
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:40,200
We were in Indonesia, I think 
one of the meetings and you told

883
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,720
me we got there. 
Firstly, you took me to Asia for

884
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,160
the first time. 
I'd never been to Indonesia, but

885
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,320
I said, listen, I'm going to go.
My brother's saying we got to 

886
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,240
go. 
We got to go. 

887
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,360
And then we got there and then 
you said, bro, the Ark is with 

888
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:53,720
you and I. 
That's the first time I even 

889
00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:56,160
ever heard that lingo. 
So the Ark is with you tonight. 

890
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:57,480
So what do you mean the Ark is 
with me tonight? 

891
00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,120
It's 2:00, services at 5:00. 
You know what I mean? 

892
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:02,400
If it's somebody will say let me
know ahead of time, let me 

893
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,040
prepare myself. 
But you're like, no, no, no, no,

894
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:08,000
it's with you and you got to go.
And it was one of, you know, the

895
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:10,720
large gatherings that we had 
done on one of the major nights 

896
00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:14,000
and evenings. 
You sat down and you were OK 

897
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,800
supporting your brother. 
And and likewise, I would do 

898
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,080
that 1000 times over, you know. 
But I feel as though it's 

899
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:24,400
because there is not only a 
mutual respect, not only a 

900
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,800
genuine brought, like, I don't 
see like, oh, Pastor, round off 

901
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,000
as my ministry colleague. 
No, no, Pastor Randolph is my 

902
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,680
brother. 
We have the same father. 

903
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,760
Judah is my nephew, you know, 
Patience is my sister. 

904
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,920
This is is my family. 
When you go to Ghana, you stay 

905
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:41,560
in my house. 
You know what I mean? 

906
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,440
We when you come to Canada, you 
come to our house, you eat in 

907
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,640
our kitchen. 
When I come to Uki, go to your 

908
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:52,680
like it is actual family. 
Now with that, do you how do you

909
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,480
think that you've been able by 
the grace of God to get to that 

910
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:59,400
point whereby that that itch for
competition or that itch to be 

911
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,640
seen has been killed? 
And I'll ask the second question

912
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,360
that we can discuss. 
Do you think that even within 

913
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:11,960
Kingdom friendships there was 
competition and if there is, how

914
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,360
do you navigate? 
So they're kind of intertwined, 

915
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:18,200
the two questions. 
I think I just came back from 

916
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,680
Ghana 2 days ago and this is one
of the conversations that came 

917
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,440
up and I think that one of the 
answers I said was that it's a 

918
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:30,120
matter of foundations, OK? 
Foundations are so crucial. 

919
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,560
The Bible says that if the 
foundation is destroyed, what 

920
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,800
would the righteous do? 
And I think that everything 

921
00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:42,720
stems from foundations. 
The type of quality foundation 

922
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:48,760
Dr. Ralph has raised you with, 
the type of love he's giving you

923
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:52,600
as a father, the examples he's 
giving you as a leader. 

924
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:57,760
It it can almost bring you to a 
place where nothing kind of 

925
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,400
moves you or shakes you because 
you have a solid foundation. 

926
00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:04,680
I think that majority of the 
time people have not found the 

927
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,160
identity outside of the pulpit. 
OK, OK. 

928
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:16,000
And for many, many, many 
leaders, pastors, ministers, 

929
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:22,040
when they are on the pulpit, 
they feel powerful, they feel 

930
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:25,720
relevant, they feel validated, 
OK. 

931
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,760
The moment they don't have it, 
then they feel useless. 

932
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:33,640
And this is not just them, it's 
also a church type of culture. 

933
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,720
OK, so you recognize that, you 
know, I don't know about Canada,

934
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,240
but in the UK, there's this 
culture where in every season 

935
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:42,840
there's this minister, everybody
invites, everybody goes for, 

936
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,080
everybody does. 
Then two, 3-4 years down the 

937
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,440
line, another one comes in and 
then they forget all of them. 

938
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,720
So I am very intentional. 
I don't go everywhere. 

939
00:50:52,720 --> 00:50:55,040
I don't go anywhere. 
I'm very, very intentional 

940
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:59,320
because I don't, I don't want to
get into that culture of you are

941
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,560
a minister in vogue, in demand. 
You are minister in demand. 

942
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,080
Yes, yes, yes. 
Then you're the hot 1. 

943
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,680
Exactly. 
Then your ministry is a seasonal

944
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,160
kind of ministry. 
So I think that for me, the type

945
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,800
of foundations that we were 
raised in the Apostolic Church, 

946
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,880
in the Baptist Church, if, if 
you, if anybody's coming from 

947
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,080
the Baptist Church is a very 
strong doctrinal type of church.

948
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,360
I was privileged by the grace of
God, may the Lord bless his 

949
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:28,440
soul. 
He's dead and gone. 

950
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,880
I was raised by an old man and 
I'm talking about a young, I was

951
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,800
potentially a young guy was 
about 161718 years. 

952
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,960
And I was maybe raised by a man 
back then who was like maybe his

953
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:45,800
60s and and the type of training
that we were given were given 

954
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,520
that training that your 
relevance was at the background.

955
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,120
It was never about what happens 
at the forefront. 

956
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:57,200
So I find more pleasure in doing
ministry unknown. 

957
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,040
I promise you, I struggle. 
I struggle with this. 

958
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,000
I struggle with all of these 
kind of things with, you know, 

959
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:08,200
being out there and out there 
and being known and being seen. 

960
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:09,640
What? 
You're known bro, that's the 

961
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,240
problem. 
Because I because there's, 

962
00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:14,880
there's a place where you get to
where hiding becomes impossible.

963
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:19,000
I promise you that if nobody 
ever knew me, I would be so 

964
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:20,680
happy. 
Because I think that sometimes 

965
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:23,680
you're able to do more damage. 
Unknown, of course, then you do 

966
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,320
damage. 
None, Of course, you know, I, I,

967
00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:29,720
I use this analogy all the time.
If you get into every country, 

968
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,320
they are strongest soldiers. 
They are strongest security 

969
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,680
force policemen. 
We are not the people you see 

970
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,760
driving, not all of these police
people you see driving all the 

971
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,960
time. 
You see them on the roads and 

972
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,440
all these are people that are 
dealing with like pedestrian 

973
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:50,080
issues, thieves and all of that.
But the moment there's something

974
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,360
like a terrorist invasion, you 
would see all of these plain 

975
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:58,080
clothes policemen, all of these 
guys that are groomed in an 

976
00:52:58,200 --> 00:52:59,760
underground place that doesn't 
come out. 

977
00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:02,840
These those are the people that 
they bring out when, when 

978
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,760
serious crisis, you know, falls 
upon the city. 

979
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,840
And, and for me, I've always 
come to, I've always been that 

980
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:14,960
guy that says, you know what? 
I want to do damage from an 

981
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,280
unknown place. 
So I'm that type of guy that 

982
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,240
wants to be like a a secret 
detective. 

983
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,920
He's working around you. 
You don't know him. 

984
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,720
You might underestimate him, but
he's the most dangerous. 

985
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,480
And, and this and, and, and this
were, this was our, this was our

986
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:34,720
orientation from the beginning. 
So, so we, we were training in 

987
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:36,800
such a way that when the pastor 
is preaching, we are, we're in a

988
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,040
backroom praying when, when this
is happening, we are not on the 

989
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,360
scene. 
We are, we are somewhere 

990
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,800
interceded. 
And I think that that type of 

991
00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:49,000
training made me enjoy these 
kind of things that may not 

992
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,320
necessarily appeal to many 
people in ministry. 

993
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,600
And and and because of that, I'm
and, and I have a lot of 

994
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:56,640
security in who I am. 
Yourself. 

995
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,800
Yeah, and I think that is that 
is very crucial. 

996
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,720
I, I know that I'm not the most 
gifted, I may not be the most 

997
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:04,840
anointed. 
I may not be all of these kind 

998
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:06,000
of things, but I know what I'm 
good. 

999
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:11,400
I'm I'm good in and the moment 
you begin to identify that every

1000
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,240
place is not for you and you 
don't necessarily need to be 

1001
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:17,840
strong in every single place, 
but you know your place, you 

1002
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:20,480
know your lane, you know what 
you are good at. 

1003
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:25,360
You are very OK for other people
to shine in spaces that are made

1004
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,640
for them and not necessarily 
feel intimidated. 

1005
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:33,120
And I think that if we can, we 
get to a place where we go 

1006
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:38,720
beyond our identity in in a 
forefront ministry and we 

1007
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,960
recognize that your identity is 
first in Christ. 

1008
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,640
Your identity is is in who Jesus
says you are. 

1009
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,040
And this may sound cliche for 
Christians, but it is not 

1010
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:51,760
everybody's reality. 
When a man is secured in his 

1011
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:56,960
identity, the shining of other 
people does not scare him. 

1012
00:54:57,840 --> 00:55:01,720
When people are insecure in 
their identity, then they feel 

1013
00:55:01,720 --> 00:55:04,880
like when other people are 
shining, then they are dimming 

1014
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,160
because they feel like relevance
is when the applause are high. 

1015
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:11,160
Relevance is when you know, 
people are speaking your name 

1016
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,600
and all of these kind of things.
So when somebody, let's say, 

1017
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,040
comes into a conference and they
may not even necessarily be on 

1018
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:17,880
the fly. 
And the big I've seen people 

1019
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:21,280
that have come to some of my 
conferences and, and they, 

1020
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:23,720
they've seen things happen and 
they're coming to you say, oh, 

1021
00:55:23,720 --> 00:55:25,400
can I go and can I go and lead 
prayer? 

1022
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,680
Can I, can, I, can I, can I 
really, I'm telling you, I've 

1023
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,720
seen people that would, would 
message you and text you and 

1024
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:33,280
say, oh, you know what? 
We want to use our gift to, to 

1025
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,920
help your conference. 
You know that. 

1026
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,560
And then there's no problem in 
that. 

1027
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:40,520
That may be genuine. 
But the moment you begin to beg,

1028
00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:44,160
the moment you begin to ask, the
moment you begin to push, 

1029
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,680
because you saw 6000 people, 
10,000 people, 200 people, 500 

1030
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:51,360
people. 
It's, it's an indication that 

1031
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:56,360
your identity is not fair. 
And, and, and for me, the moment

1032
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,160
I begin to see some of these 
type of signs, it, it, it can 

1033
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,640
tell me that this guy, you know,
may not necessarily be here for 

1034
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,680
the right reasons. 
They've seen an opportunity. 

1035
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:08,640
They want to exploit it. 
And, and, and it's the glitz, 

1036
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,880
it's the glamour, it's the 
pulpit, it's everything that 

1037
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,000
comes with it. 
I, I have, I have this type of 

1038
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,440
philosophy that I say that I'm 
nice everywhere you meet me. 

1039
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,800
But that's where it ends. 
So we could come into a room, we

1040
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,120
could come into a room and I 
could be laughing with 

1041
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,880
everybody. 
I could, I can smile with 

1042
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,440
everybody. 
And I'm, I'm that guy that I, I 

1043
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,560
don't need to know you for one 
year. 

1044
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:32,600
I can meet you in 30 seconds and
we can be friends. 

1045
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,160
But it ends there. 
When I get home, it's me, my 

1046
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:39,920
wife, my children, and that one,
two brothers that I called 

1047
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:43,360
genuine people or genuine 
friends like yourself. 

1048
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:46,600
Because I know that they are not
in there necessarily for what 

1049
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,760
you can give them. 
They are not in there 

1050
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:50,200
necessarily for what you can 
afford them. 

1051
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,680
They are in there because they 
genuinely like you as a person 

1052
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,960
and they are interested in your 
well-being. 

1053
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,200
I mean, you were talking about, 
you were talking about, you 

1054
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,160
know, the funeral. 
We can talk about when you came 

1055
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,120
here, when we were launching 
this building. 

1056
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:09,120
I remember I was speaking to 
you, an old boy on the phone the

1057
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,440
morning, the night before, an 
old boy, you know, shout out to 

1058
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:15,640
old boy again, you know, doctor 
Ralph was you guys play the 

1059
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,440
game. 
So I genuinely I wasn't 

1060
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,000
expecting you here. 
I was an expert and I think 

1061
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:25,400
that's one of my that's one of 
my absolute favorite moments in 

1062
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:28,080
our friendship. 
You know, you guys turning up, 

1063
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,840
leaving Canada, buying your 
tickets, doing everything and 

1064
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,520
and I don't even see it as you 
reciprocating something that I 

1065
00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:36,520
did. 
You know, it's just the love is 

1066
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,800
the genuineness. 
And when you got here, I sat 

1067
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:42,200
down and I said preach. 
You take one service, take one. 

1068
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,600
Service and that was the first 
service in this building 

1069
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,960
exactly. 
I could have said, you know, 

1070
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,440
it's the first service, let me 
preach and all of that, but. 

1071
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,480
We, we, we weren't ready. 
We were just here and genuinely 

1072
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:56,840
happy because, listen, our 
brother has moved into a 

1073
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:59,360
building in London. 
Like, how are we going to miss 

1074
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:00,800
that? 
Like, that's not something that 

1075
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,480
we think. 
Like, OK, maybe should we be 

1076
00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:03,280
there? 
Should we not be there? 

1077
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,120
No. 
When something is family and 

1078
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,520
when somebody's truly your 
brother, when their wins are 

1079
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:10,960
your wins and their losses are 
your losses. 

1080
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,920
And so it's like, listen, if 
you're winning, we have won. 

1081
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,840
If you're losing, bro, we're 
both losing. 

1082
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,960
What do we have to do to make 
this work? 

1083
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:21,200
I remember I'll never forget 
this. 

1084
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Just to just to wrap this up, 
I'll never forget we were Upper 

1085
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:25,760
Room. 
This was in Frankfurt. 

1086
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,720
This was the second year I came 
to Upper Room in Frankfurt. 

1087
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,880
And I remember that time I'd 
come with my brothers, I'd come 

1088
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,840
with a few others and I was 
still navigating, you know, how 

1089
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,800
to travel with large groups and 
people and this and that. 

1090
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:45,000
And I remember I got to the 
conference, I, I was in my hotel

1091
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,200
and the meeting has started. 
And if you, if you go to Upper 

1092
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,320
Room or if you ever been to 
Upper Room, you know that 

1093
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,920
ministers never know when 
they're going to minister. 

1094
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,080
So if you're on schedule, you 
can minister at any time as a 

1095
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:57,720
spirit leads. 
It literally just has to be, you

1096
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:00,160
know, you have to be in the 
room, literally the tagline be 

1097
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:01,840
in the room because you don't 
know what's going to happen. 

1098
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,120
And I remember I came late to 
that service. 

1099
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,040
Assault grabbed me after the 
service, and he's like, bro, 

1100
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,000
where were you? 
And I was like, bro, like I was 

1101
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:09,840
doing. 
He's like, bro, it doesn't 

1102
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matter, you have to be here, he 
said. 

1103
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,400
Bro, it's not just my 
conference, it's us doing it. 

1104
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,640
I could never forget that. 
I'm like, what do you mean us? 

1105
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:20,640
If this is your conference, I'm 
coming to support you. 

1106
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,320
You're my brother. 
And he said no, no, no, no, no. 

1107
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:25,880
It's us doing this conference. 
You have to be early, you have 

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to be on time. 
And from that day forward, I 

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think you can attest. 
Even last year's upper room, I 

1110
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said don't bring me to where the
ministers are staying. 

1111
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:39,720
Let me stay on grounds because 
it's never left my mind. 

1112
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,720
It's our conference. 
We are doing it together and I 

1113
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,480
will do anything just to be able
to see you win. 

1114
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,680
And so bro, I think that's the 
inception of it, man. 

1115
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:55,480
And this is the Shepherd's Bench
podcast episode #1. 

1116
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,480
Wow, what happened? 
It happened, friends. 

1117
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,800
This is the end for today. 
We'll see you next time myself. 

1118
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,560
Apostle Randolph. 
Any words? 

1119
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:11,840
It's happening. 
We'll see you. 

1120
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,960
It's happening. 
I, I, I'm, I'm, I'm looking 

1121
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,080
forward to all the things we are
going to discuss because I think

1122
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,400
this, this, this podcast is 
going to help a lot of. 

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01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,040
People. 
And it's a great opportunity 

1124
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,280
even for us to even learn. 
So we'll catch you on the next 

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01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:24,680
episode.