1 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:59,040 Hey everyone, happy Friday our Bible in 365 for the month of 2 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,200 August. We have the amazing Pastor James 3 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:03,040 Kaddis with us. Good to see you. 4 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:06,920 My mute, My microphone is muted. Sorry. 5 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:09,840 It's great to see you too, sweetheart. 6 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,200 How you? Doing good to see you Good. 7 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,840 We're hanging in there. We have a lot of lifestyle 8 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,680 questions, but we also have some super solid scripture questions 9 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,839 that I do want to get to today. So maybe we do it a little bit 10 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:24,240 reverse and do the scripture questions 1st and then hop into 11 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,480 lifestyle. But before we start, is there 12 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:31,480 any updates or anything that we can be praying for you and your 13 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,840 family and and your church family before we before we dive 14 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:39,200 in and you lead us in prayer? Well, you know you we would 15 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,480 always take the prayers for our family. 16 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:47,640 We were so blessed by God. Last month, my 4th adopted child 17 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:52,040 was born and this precious little baby is in with us and 18 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:57,200 we're so blessed to have her. You know, just continue to pray 19 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,640 for the work of the ministry of the church. 20 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,360 You know, we have an opportunity, as you know, Lord 21 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:03,760 willing, we'll be able to step into a new building, which would 22 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,360 make a substantial difference for us. 23 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,400 And there's a lot of things that we're praying for. 24 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,480 So we definitely appreciate the prayers and God's been so good. 25 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,240 You know, I, it's, it's been a season where we've just been 26 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,760 watching the goodness of God in, in many ways that I've not been 27 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,800 able to articulate. And every single time I hold 28 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:25,920 that little baby in my arms, I just think about the brutality 29 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:29,160 of this world that is just wanting to take these precious 30 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,440 lives. And it's, it's just so 31 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,560 heartbreaking. It's so sad. 32 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:37,000 So definitely we pray and, and I would encourage everybody to 33 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,440 pray for the Lord to open up the doors for us to take a bolder. 34 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,080 Stand about the world in which we're living. 35 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,640 Amen. Amen. 36 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,000 I totally agree. Well, let's dive in. 37 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,840 I'll have you say a quick prayer and then we'll we'll hop into 38 00:05:50,840 --> 00:05:52,680 everything. All right, let's do it. 39 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,160 Father in Heaven, we just thank you so much for your goodness, 40 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,480 for your faithfulness. Lord, I thank you so much for 41 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:03,600 Erica, and I thank you, Lord, for all that you continue to do 42 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,800 in her life. Lord, we just pray right now 43 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,280 that you would bless this time that we have together. 44 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,080 Give us wisdom, discernment, understanding. 45 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,240 Lord, we pray that answers would get question, questions would 46 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,440 get answered effectively, Lord, and for your glory, we just pray 47 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,480 God, that our lives would be changed as a result of this. 48 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:22,600 So Lord, we love you and thank you. 49 00:06:23,280 --> 00:06:25,360 We look to you and. We ask these things in Jesus 50 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:26,520 name, we pray. Amen. 51 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,560 Amen. OK, so really quick, this verse 52 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,080 has just been continuously popping out to me. 53 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:40,720 I honestly feel like we're in the spiritual warfare realm 54 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:42,800 right now of the battle for truth. 55 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:50,600 And I feel like you amongst a very select few can can really 56 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,160 read what's happening here in in our world and compare it 57 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:58,440 directly to what scripture says. And so in Second Timothy chapter 58 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,480 3, it talks about this and I just, I would love if you could 59 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,480 just unpack this because when I read this, it stuck with me. 60 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,040 This is not a part of our readings, but it was something 61 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,840 that I was reading on the side. So I just want to read it and 62 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:13,920 then I just want you to be able to unpack it. 63 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,800 And then for believers, but also for non believers of how to 64 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,480 navigate the times we're in, especially those where it really 65 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:29,000 is the, the spiritual battle for, for the truth and, and for, 66 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:33,520 for them to know how to combat all the different evil forces 67 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:37,240 that are out there. Because I know for, for 68 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,080 believers, you know, you can say the word of God and, and all 69 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,360 these different things, but for a non believer, I just would 70 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:47,760 love for you to, to maybe highlight some, some ways they 71 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,160 can feel like they're fighting the good fight. 72 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:54,840 So my computer switched back to ESV because I know we were 73 00:07:54,840 --> 00:07:56,440 talking about new King James version. 74 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,320 I'm sorry. So second Timothy chapter 3, it 75 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:06,600 says, yeah, right here. OK, Second Timothy chapter 3, 76 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,200 godlessness in the last days. But understand this, that in the 77 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:14,280 last days there will come times of difficulty. 78 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:19,400 For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, 79 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:24,600 arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, 80 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:30,480 unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without 81 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,200 self-control, brutal, not loving, good, treacherous, 82 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:41,600 reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than 83 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,840 lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness but 84 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:49,400 denying its power. Avoid such people. 85 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:53,240 For among them are those who creep into households and 86 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:58,160 capture weak women, burdened with sins and LED astray by 87 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,880 various passions, always learning and never able to 88 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,040 arrive at a knowledge of the truth. 89 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,840 Just as you'll fix this, just as Janice and Jombres opposed 90 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:15,400 Moses, so these men also oppose the truth men corrupted in mind 91 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:17,840 and disqualified regarding the faith. 92 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:22,360 But they will not get very far, for their folly will be plain to 93 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,400 all, as was that of those two men. 94 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,880 Yep. Yeah. 95 00:09:28,560 --> 00:09:31,040 I know. So the part that really, 96 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,480 honestly, the part that's always keeps sticking out to me is the 97 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:35,960 capturing of weak women. Yep. 98 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,680 Yeah. So OK. 99 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,320 Because I just even see it in in today's time of just, you know 100 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,960 what? You know exactly what I what I 101 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,840 just how? The phrase, yeah. 102 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:53,240 The phrase, the capturing of weak women is something that's 103 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:58,840 important and it, it has to be contextualized. 104 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,920 OK. And the reason why it has to be 105 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,840 contextualized is because you have to understand what's 106 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,760 actually being said. And then it it, it, it literally 107 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,000 magnifies even more. The phrase is often times 108 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,800 referred to as silly women. It doesn't mean that they're 109 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:19,120 foolish or they're spiritually inferior, that that phrase is 110 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,160 extremely important. I'm going to talk about it in 111 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,920 just a second. Yeah, that'd be amazing. 112 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:26,440 But what it's actually saying is it's the passage is talking 113 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,000 about the end times. It's talking about the last 114 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,680 days. And in the King James, it 115 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:32,880 actually says perilous times will come. 116 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,480 So it's heavy. And if you look at the the 117 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,160 description that you just read, it is so powerful because it 118 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,280 speaks so clearly of the world in which we Live Today. 119 00:10:42,560 --> 00:10:45,800 Men being lovers of them own selves, covetous boasters, proud 120 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,280 blasphemers, disobedient to parents. 121 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:49,760 I'm thankful unholy. The list is long. 122 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,840 Without natural affection, a lot of people will instantly go to 123 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,880 homosexuality here. But without natural affection 124 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:01,600 speaks very clearly of the mindset of a person that as a 125 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:03,320 mom could strangle three children. 126 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:08,560 That's what it's talking about. South abortions, you know, truce 127 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:11,520 Breakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce despisers, 128 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,320 despisers of those that are good. 129 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:21,080 The picture is it shows an environment of a place of 130 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:25,800 distress that has been extenuated by the yielding to 131 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:30,360 wickedness and to evil. So when you see the phrase here, 132 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:35,280 it's translated silly women in some cases, other cases you'll 133 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,800 you'll hear the phrase they creep into houses and lead 134 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:43,160 captive silly women laden with sins, LED away with diver's 135 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,480 lust. It's the King James way of 136 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,880 putting it. What Paul is actually describing 137 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,480 here in particular is he speaking about women, very 138 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,360 specific women who are made vulnerable by guilt and by sin 139 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:58,960 and by emotional instability and by uncontrolled desires. 140 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:04,440 OK, so the idea here is false. Teachers don't merely spread bad 141 00:12:04,440 --> 00:12:08,240 doctrine. They identify vulnerability in 142 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,600 women like this and they exploit it. 143 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,480 So that's what they're doing now. 144 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,080 Yes, that's exactly what's happening right now. 145 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:18,520 So when you look at the phrase like lead captive, it's it's the 146 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:20,800 language. It truly, it's the language of 147 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,840 conquest. It it, it, it really speaks of 148 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,120 that. So these women are being 149 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,480 spiritually manipulated and brought under someone else's 150 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,880 control. OK. 151 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,800 And notice what it says. It says they're ever learning, 152 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,680 constantly consuming spiritual teaching, but never able to come 153 00:12:36,680 --> 00:12:39,000 to the knowledge of the truth. Which, by the way, this is so 154 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:42,640 interesting because academia has taken over that role. 155 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:48,600 Academia has LED massive groups of women into the college 156 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,360 environment and has now brought them into that place of ever 157 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,080 learning, OK, but never able to come to the knowledge of the 158 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:57,400 truth. And by the way, we are not 159 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,880 talking about an academic mechanism within academia. 160 00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:04,440 That's just in a sense to an intellectual capacity or 161 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,040 thought. What we're talking about is 162 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,760 we're talking about spiritual direction being given to them by 163 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,080 these professors that are poisoning their minds. 164 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:17,160 So the problem here is not a lack of information, it's an 165 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:20,400 unwillingness to surrender to the truth that they've actually 166 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,720 heard. And so that's what this is. 167 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,920 And and by the way, this is what predators do. 168 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:27,920 We see them come out in full force. 169 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,840 They find people that are weakened by sin and by guilt, 170 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,200 and they offer them something that sounds spiritual. 171 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,560 Then they use that vulnerability to control them. 172 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:40,160 By the way, we see this happening in in the podcast 173 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,760 world. That's this is like. 174 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,440 Literally that's the immediately what I was thinking of is is. 175 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:46,840 Number one, that's right. That's right. 176 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,200 And, and it's and it's crazy. And then, by the way, if you 177 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,720 really want to establish the context, then you had you see, 178 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:57,040 reference being made to Jonas and Jambras, who were Egyptian 179 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:01,080 magicians who actually opposed Moses before Pharaoh in Exodus 180 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,000 7. Now, they're not named in Exodus 181 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:08,360 7, but Paul identifies them because they were preserved. 182 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:10,120 The names were preserved through Jewish tradition. 183 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:15,120 They imitated some of Moses's signs through counterfeit power, 184 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:18,800 and their purpose was to resist God's truth and to literally 185 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,760 strengthen the rebellion of Pharaoh. 186 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:25,040 Paul uses them as a picture of false teachers in the last days, 187 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,960 that they may appear spiritual and even imitate the work of 188 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,360 God, but they possess corrupt minds and they literally reject 189 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,000 the truth. These women are falling 190 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,760 vulnerable to them because they have failed to subject 191 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,200 themselves to the leadership that would make them whole and 192 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,280 make them the beautiful people that God intended for them to 193 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:47,600 be. And when we when the Bible talks 194 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,760 about women being the weaker vessel, it does not mean they're 195 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:55,720 weaker in the sense that they are incapable of picking things 196 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:59,800 up or or or or not strong. The weaker vulnerable means the 197 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,200 more fragile meaning meaning the picture in the language that's 198 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,320 depicted is a diamond, for example, would be considered. 199 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,120 It would fall in the category of the weaker vessel. 200 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,440 In other words, it requires protection in order for it to 201 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:20,280 shine, it, in order for its beauty to come out, it needs to 202 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,760 have a covering. And when a woman is not allowed 203 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:27,080 to experience the covering the God designed for them to have, 204 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:32,360 they end up bringing themselves into the subjection of these 205 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,920 things that some people would say, well, does that mean, and 206 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,720 this is a natural question that anybody would ask, does that 207 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,400 mean, 'cause I get this question a lot by widows who've lost 208 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,840 their husbands, What does that mean? 209 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,200 Now I no longer have a covering. No, the Bible actually says it 210 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,520 makes it very, very clear that the covering changes. 211 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,960 The nature of that covering changes and then you are allowed 212 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:55,400 to take what God has given you through such a terrible 213 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,720 circumstance and use it even more for the glory of God. 214 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:02,920 So the picture is it goes back to the vulnerability that you 215 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,480 allow yourself to have, whether it be to the truth or whether it 216 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:08,840 be to a lie. And and that's what this is 217 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:11,120 talking about. And in the last days, the Bible 218 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:16,400 says we are going to see a massive increase in women who 219 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:20,080 have given themselves to this. And it's funny how it's actually 220 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,800 being depicted. It's being depicted as though 221 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:28,520 they have, in essence, been deceived by false teachers who 222 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,880 have brought them to that place. And I would argue when you see 223 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,320 that, especially in the troposphere that we're talking 224 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,320 about, it always goes back to bad male leadership. 225 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:39,440 Almost always it's bad male leadership. 226 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:46,880 So then as as a non believer, how do you combat the the battle 227 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,080 for truth then? This is awesome because Paul 228 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,760 actually gives the solution in the letter that he writes. 229 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,120 And it's so funny because so many people misquote these 230 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,640 verses out of context. Everybody loves to write the 231 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,560 path or everybody loves to quote the passage. 232 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,720 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and it's 233 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:05,839 profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction, instruction 234 00:17:05,839 --> 00:17:07,880 of righteousness of the man of God may be perfect early furnace 235 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,119 unto all good works. Everybody likes to quote that 236 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:12,480 verse, but here's the problem. They don't quote it in the 237 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,319 context in which it was designed to be quoted, because what the 238 00:17:15,319 --> 00:17:18,200 apostle Paul tells Timothy as he's talking about these evil 239 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,839 men, seducers, watching worse and worse. 240 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,400 I said watching, watching worse and worse. 241 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,119 I know, I know, deceiving and being deceived. 242 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,360 Here's the solution he gives him the solution he says, But 243 00:17:31,360 --> 00:17:35,240 continue thou in the things which thou has learned and has 244 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,960 been assured of knowing of whom thou has learned them, that from 245 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,760 a child thou has known the Holy Scriptures which are able to 246 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,080 make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ 247 00:17:46,120 --> 00:17:48,000 Jesus. So this is really interesting. 248 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:52,520 It's a leeway into the statement that I just quoted very fastly 249 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,400 and somewhat abruptly. But when he says all Scripture 250 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:59,400 is given by inspiration, understand the fact that it is 251 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,280 profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction, instruction 252 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,400 and righteousness. OK, that is not exclusive to 253 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:12,400 just the man of God. Although in verse 17 it says 254 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,480 that the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished 255 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,200 unto all good work. So here's the difference. 256 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,040 The word of God has the effect on a Christian to complete them 257 00:18:21,360 --> 00:18:26,360 and to fully contain them. Encapsulate them in a mechanism 258 00:18:26,360 --> 00:18:30,320 of completeness where if the Word of God is used as guidance 259 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:35,360 for morality in a non believer, it is profitable for doctrine, 260 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:38,520 for reproof, for for reproof, for correction, for instruction. 261 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:42,360 But it doesn't accomplish the work of completion until that 262 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:44,840 person puts their faith and trust in Christ. 263 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:49,160 So the answer is biblical principles. 264 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,680 You have to go back to biblical principles. 265 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,240 And by the way, this is true of any area. 266 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:56,720 It's true. I was just meeting with some 267 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,280 very, very wealthy businessman recently. 268 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:03,000 Vera, dear friends of mine, 11 in particular, a man that I 269 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,560 actually have coffee with every single week. 270 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:09,120 And we, we spend a good solid 3 hours together. 271 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,440 And one of the things that we constantly just are obsessed 272 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,920 over is the wise counsel that the Bible gives in business. 273 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,760 It literally gives you everything you need to know 274 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,600 about everything from stock trading to buying properties to 275 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,640 all of that. Because the principles that 276 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,680 drive the activity that we do today is literally covered in 277 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:31,480 the Bible. So when you stray from that, 278 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:34,080 when you stray from the, the, the foundation that that 279 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:38,960 provides, you create an infrastructure by which it, it, 280 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,040 it literally is set up for failure. 281 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,000 And that's what this is all about. 282 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:46,280 And it's so interesting that the context of this at the apostle 283 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:50,440 Paul gives us is the last days. Because in the last days, more 284 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:53,720 than ever, we need the word of God more than ever, we need to 285 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,040 hold fast to it. And that's why this ministry is 286 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,960 so important, because it teaches people to take something so 287 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,840 critical and bring it in very close to a place. 288 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,160 It's so desperately needed. If we desperately need this and 289 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,040 and if we don't have it, we don't have the foundation by 290 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,320 which we can grow. Amen. 291 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,680 That was that. Felt good to hear it was the 292 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,320 best. We're going to hide well, praise 293 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,600 the Lord. No, it's it's always the best. 294 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,720 We're going to hop to scripture questions. 295 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:33,040 This one starts with Adrian and the Old Testament the Angel. 296 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,200 I have the they put the in all caps. 297 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:40,160 The Angel of the Lord appears a lot in Acts with God's 298 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:42,800 authority. A friend of mine said that the 299 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:47,440 Angel of the Lord is actually the pre incarnation of Jesus 300 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,520 Christ. Is there any truth to that? 301 00:20:50,360 --> 00:20:55,080 OK, well it's very nuanced. OK, yes, there's a very strong 302 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,280 biblical reason to believe that the phrase the Angel of the Lord 303 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,200 was the pre Incarnate appearance of Christ. 304 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,960 We often times call it a Christology or Theophany, 305 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,680 basically the Greek word theos Phanis's appearance. 306 00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:11,320 So the appearance of God in essence or the appearance of 307 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,800 Christ Christos, that's, you know, in essence our Messiah. 308 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,000 So the word Angel means messenger. 309 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,520 When we we see the Greek word angelos, that's what it means. 310 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,400 It doesn't automatically mean a created Angel. 311 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:29,360 OK, so the Angel of the Lord speaks as God receives worship, 312 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:31,200 forgives or withholds forgiveness. 313 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,240 They're identified as God that you know it's God because an 314 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,920 Angel of the Lord is not going to receive worship. 315 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,000 We see instances in the Book of Revelation, for example, where 316 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,200 an Angel gets worshipped and the Angel says don't do that, right? 317 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,120 It's like this is not what you're going to do in Exodus 318 00:21:46,120 --> 00:21:47,880 chapter 3 is a good example, right? 319 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,480 The the Angel of the Lord appears in a burning Bush, but 320 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:56,080 then the text actually says God called unto him out of the midst 321 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,360 of the Bush. So we know that the Angel of the 322 00:21:58,360 --> 00:22:01,520 Lord there is God. Judges 13 is another example. 323 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:03,960 This is Manoah. And if you remember the story 324 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,840 there, there's, there's that quote where Manoah says we shall 325 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,280 surely die because we've seen God after encountering what the 326 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:13,840 Bible says, the Angel of the Lord. 327 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:17,600 I believe it's Judges 13. I, I hope I don't get that 328 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:18,960 wrong. I'm almost certain it's Judges 329 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,640 13. And then in Exodus 23, this is 330 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:24,840 one that I just recently read and I remember this. 331 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,240 It's just very fresh in my memory. 332 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:33,040 God actually says of him my name is in him and commands Israel to 333 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,880 obey his voice. So the the nuance that's there 334 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:40,440 is is important. And Jesus actually solidifies 335 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,120 this because later on he'll say, hey, before Abraham was I am 336 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:45,800 remember he says that in John chapter 8. 337 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:50,240 So he's telling us that he actually existed before what 338 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:55,360 happened in Bethlehem. OK, so it's, it's he's, he is 339 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,760 the visible revelation of the invisible God is what Colossians 340 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,680 actually says. So the, the Bible never says the 341 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,440 Angel of the Lord is Jesus Christ. 342 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,720 So you know, we can't like be dogmatic beyond what's written. 343 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,040 However, there are many places where evidence strongly points 344 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:15,760 to Christ appearing before his incarnation as the divine 345 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,320 messenger of the Lord because the Bible actually tells us it 346 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,840 like it shows it to us. You would never worship an 347 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,600 Angel, especially in Hebrews where Paul makes this massive 348 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,960 argument over the superiority of Christ over the Angel. 349 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:31,040 So when you see an Angel of the Lord being worshipped, you know 350 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,640 that that designation can be carried to refer to Christ. 351 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:37,480 So I think it's Simply put, I think that's probably the 352 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,080 easiest way to do that. Yeah. 353 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,640 Our next question is from Roslyn. 354 00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,720 We've actually gotten this question a lot in the years 355 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,600 past, but it's been it. It keeps coming up in some of 356 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,520 the Q&A's over the course of the past several months. 357 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,640 So we wanted to make sure that we addressed it. 358 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:58,600 So Rosalynn asked, I was told this week that there are 359 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:02,440 potentially 80 books that could have been included in the Bible 360 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,480 or were at some point like the Book of Enoch. 361 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,560 I try, I tend to dismiss these types of claims, but I really 362 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,600 don't know. What do you think about this? 363 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,760 OK, so this is a very, very loaded full books. 364 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,640 That's actually what we call them and. 365 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,880 Can you explain what that what like broken down what that 366 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,720 means? Yeah, yeah. 367 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:28,040 So basically in in the most simplistic form, let me just 368 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,800 simply say this. The the claim actually badly 369 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,520 misrepresents how the Bible came together. 370 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,200 OK, this is probably the easiest way to put this without me 371 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,360 getting into a big textual criticism discussion. 372 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,280 There were many ancient religious writings that existed, 373 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,440 but that doesn't mean 80 books were removed from the Bible or 374 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:50,520 or or nearly became the Bible. The church didn't create what we 375 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,640 call the biblical Canon. OK, God actually inspired the 376 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,840 books and his people recognize them. 377 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:00,920 The books were recognized based on many, many variables, OK, 378 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,880 based on prophetic or Apostolic authority, what they would call 379 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:10,760 doctrinal consistency, authenticity, widespread 380 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,720 acceptance among God's people. This was something Speaking of 381 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,640 the book of Enoch, It's it is ancient, OK, and it may contain 382 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,520 historically interesting material, but it was never part 383 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:29,400 of the Hebrew Bible and was not broadly received by the church 384 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:33,680 as inspired. OK, now Jude, he quotes Enoch. 385 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,800 OK, but Kim quoting Enoch doesn't make the entire book of 386 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:42,480 Enoch the Bible. OK Paul quoted Pagan poets in 387 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,280 Acts chapter 17, and actually in Titus 1 he does the same thing, 388 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,600 but that did not make their writings inspired. 389 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,720 OK. Now the Apocrypha, which is one 390 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:53,400 of the books that I just mentioned, is another category. 391 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,280 These books were written between the Old Testament and the New 392 00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,800 Testament, and we're not part of what we called the Hebrew Canon, 393 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:05,760 but they contain teachings and historical problems that are 394 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:08,560 inconsistent with the Bible, which is why they were never put 395 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,200 into the Canon. OK, so. 396 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,880 So then would you recommend people never reading them or 397 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,800 like reading them but not like obviously counting them? 398 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,040 Bible but. I've, I've read through every 399 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:24,000 single apocryphal book and as a matter of fact, the the 400 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,520 Maccabean accounts are very valuable. 401 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:29,320 So there are some things that are there. 402 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,760 You know, a person who does very well with talking about the 403 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,080 apocryphal books. And I used to teach this at the 404 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,080 Bible college level. Textual criticism is a very 405 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,640 difficult discussion to be having. 406 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,520 Well, Wes Huff does a, does a very, very, very good job of 407 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,880 dealing with this. He's a, he's a more modern 408 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,120 scholar. Some of his work is really, 409 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,200 really good. I'm, I only mention him because 410 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:53,320 he's probably the easier of any of the reads that are out there. 411 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:55,960 There's some stuff out there that is like, look, I mean, I 412 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,640 read Bible languages and I'm telling you, they're very, very 413 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,680 complex, but different traditions. 414 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,600 They counted the books very differently, right? 415 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,240 So the, the, the, the Hebrew Bible, this is a great example, 416 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,640 right, that the Hebrew Bible actually combines books that are 417 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,080 Old Testament will actually separate. 418 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,920 OK, so again, it's a complicated discussion. 419 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,800 The, the real issue is not how many religious books were 420 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,440 actually written. The, the, the issue is which 421 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:26,480 books actually bear God's authority. 422 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,800 This is a problem, by the way, that comes up when we when we 423 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,560 talk about writings of Hebrew authors that contain all kinds 424 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,240 of crazy things in it, right? When people attack, when the 425 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:41,040 Jewish people attack, are attacked, often times there are 426 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,400 writings that they have that they constantly refer to that 427 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:49,640 people condemn them as a people group because they they consider 428 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,000 these writings their Bible, but it's not their Bible. 429 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:59,400 So it's if you kind of have the same thing now when let me let 430 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,600 me just give you a brief lesson on what the apocryphal books are 431 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,040 and the pseudepigraphal books. I think that's a question that a 432 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,400 lot of people have. And I think that it's important 433 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,200 in the most simple way to kind of give you the most basic idea. 434 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:21,040 And I think that it's also important to to I think it's 435 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:24,160 important to explain why they're not in our Bible. 436 00:28:24,360 --> 00:28:27,640 And yet in some case you see the apocryphal books in the Catholic 437 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:31,480 Bible, that's or the Bibles that the Catholics widely distribute 438 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,080 it. Those are those are some things 439 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:34,600 that are doing it. So let me give you the simplest 440 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,440 distinction between those books, since you asked. 441 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,960 The Apocrypha itself refers mainly to Jewish writings that 442 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,400 were produced between the Old and New Testaments. 443 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,440 OK. These are books like Tobit, 444 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,360 Judith, Wisdom, Sirach, First and 2nd Maccabees. 445 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:52,120 Remember the Maccabean documentation that I just told 446 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:53,160 you about? That's them. 447 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,440 OK, so these books can very much provide, as I mentioned earlier, 448 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:01,480 they can provide very useful historical background in my 449 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,960 opinion, especially the Maccabees. 450 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,720 I think the Maccabees is probably where you find the most 451 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,080 useful, but they were not part of the Hebrew Canon and 452 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,240 definitely shouldn't be treated as inspired for a lot of 453 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,000 reasons. We could take the next two hours 454 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:13,760 talking about that. Wouldn't even scratch the 455 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,040 surface. OK, the apocrypha. 456 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,920 The word apocrypha refers to hidden writings. 457 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,280 OK, so although the term now generally identifies this 458 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,200 particular collection that we actually have, it's referred to 459 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,480 as apocrypha. Now, the pseudepigrapha is a 460 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,520 much broader collection of these ancient writings falsely 461 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,320 attributed to important biblical figures. 462 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:41,120 If you remember the recent debate that happened between Wes 463 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,120 Huff and what was that guy's name? 464 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,160 It made Wes Huff kind of famous. Anyway, it'll it'll come to me, 465 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:53,400 but that that recent debate that guy used references to 466 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:56,280 pseudepigraphil material to actually come to an 467 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,480 authoritative conclusion about the Bible. 468 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,080 But pseudepigraphil literally means like if you the literal 469 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,200 definition of pseudepigraphil means falsely titled or falsely 470 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,520 attributed writings. OK, so examples of the 471 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,200 pseudepigraphil books are first Enoch, the the Testament of 472 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,520 Abraham, the Apocalypse of Moses. 473 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,320 There's another book I if I remember correctly, it's called 474 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,160 the Assumption of Moses. OK, so a writer could attach the 475 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,520 in in that context, could attach the name of Enoch or Abraham or 476 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,840 Moses or another respected figure to kind of give the work 477 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,000 authority. Or I'm writing this, but I want 478 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,960 to give the work authority. So then they'll they'll attach 479 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,400 that name. The basic distinction is this. 480 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,800 The Apocrypha is actually a recognized collection of later 481 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,680 Jewish religious books, while the pseudepigraphal books 482 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:51,440 actually consists of writings attributed to biblical figures 483 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:55,320 who didn't actually write them. OK, so they may help us 484 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,320 understand ancient history. I wouldn't necessarily recommend 485 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,240 pseudepigraphal books for a lot of different reasons. 486 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,880 They might be good for understanding Jewish thought in 487 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,160 some context, but neither category belongs on the same 488 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,720 level as what we would call the inspired Word of God. 489 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,240 By the way, even the, the most conservative of Jesuits in the 490 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,080 Catholic Church would say the same thing. 491 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,120 Even though the apocryphal writings are included in their 492 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:23,000 Bible, they would simply not look at it that way. 493 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:27,560 So the, the reason why they're not in our Bible in just the 494 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,440 most basic terms, is that they were written after what we 495 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,440 called the prophetic period of the Old Testament and don't 496 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,400 carry the same kind of prophetic authority. 497 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:39,720 OK, and, and I'm, I'm oversimplifying it. 498 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,080 I'm very much oversimplifying it because Jesus and the apostles, 499 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,520 they treated the law, the prophets at the prophets and all 500 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,600 the writings as authoritative, but they quoted it, right? 501 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,120 They, they, they actually quoted those writings that the, the 502 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,160 law, the prophets, all those types of things. 503 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,840 But when they seem to quote anytime you see quotings that 504 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,800 were, that were given, they were never identified as the 505 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,000 Apocrypha being the word of God. So the New Testament never 506 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:13,240 introduces a single apocryphal passage, not, not a single one 507 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,840 that I can think of with language such as it is written 508 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,280 or the Holy Ghost expressly says. 509 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,280 So this is this is the problem because some people say, well, 510 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,120 some of the apocryphal books are quoted in the New Testament. 511 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:27,160 Yeah, but not as God authority. In other words, they're not, 512 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,160 they're not validated as such. So some of these books, as I 513 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,760 said, they contain historical errors, teachings that actually 514 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,240 conflict with the rest of the Bible. 515 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,320 This is how we understand they don't belong in the in the in 516 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,680 the Canon. Now they appear in the Catholic 517 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,200 Bibles because they were included in the Greek Septuagint 518 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400 when the Septuagint was translated and later in the 519 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,120 Latin Vulgate, which is why you actually see the Apocrypha in a 520 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,600 Catholic Bible. However, the inclusion alongside 521 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,440 the biblical books did not automatically mean that every 522 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:02,520 every person who opens it should look at it as inspired. 523 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,960 OK, so I mean even Jerome, who is the person who actually 524 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,280 translated the Latin Vulgate, he actually distinguished those 525 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:13,000 books from the Hebrew Canon. So the Reformation that the 526 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Protestants, they all did the same thing. 527 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:20,480 There's a lot to say about this. It's, it's just, it's so it's so 528 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,560 bad. I would actually. 529 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:26,160 I feel like you have I feel like you have a a study on this on on 530 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,600 your. Site multiple, yeah. 531 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,560 Multiple maybe what we'll do is we'll take some of those links 532 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,360 and we'll put them in the the info section of this Q&A and and 533 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:42,440 keep maybe we have that in the info spot so people can so they 534 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,040 can listen. Yeah, and can I, I can. 535 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,560 And, and if I can just make one quick nuance here. 536 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,520 This is really important. The Council of Trent, I believe 537 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,800 it was. And please, guys, Fact Check me 538 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,880 because I may get the year. I may get the year wrong. 539 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:01,160 I would say it's 1546. The Roman Catholic Church 540 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:05,280 formally affirmed most of the Apocrypha as scripture. 541 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:10,520 OK, They did this at the Council of Trent, but I would argue, and 542 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,000 there are good people on both sides of this, but I would argue 543 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,199 that that was in response to what happened in the 544 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,400 Reformation. It it, it was a response to 545 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:22,040 basically put something in the face of the leaders of the 546 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,080 Reformation, the Reformation, when it was happening. 547 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,600 It's complicated and sometimes can be convoluted, but it's the 548 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,679 most basic that I can do in 10 minutes and I went 55 minutes 549 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:36,760 over my timer so. The timer is just a suggestion. 550 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,920 Yeah, I know, I know. OK, but I. 551 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,360 Got a big? Mouth no, no. 552 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,719 So our next question is from Christina. 553 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,639 Can you tell us more about the book of Nathan that is mentioned 554 00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,679 in Second Chronicles Chapter 9, verse 29? 555 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:54,159 Why it would have been removed from the Bible as its own book? 556 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:58,520 I think we just touched on that, but Second Chronicles Chapter 9, 557 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,760 verse 29. Now the rest of the Acts of 558 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,640 Solomon, from first to last, are they not written in the history 559 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:11,120 of Nathan the Prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah and 560 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:18,880 Shalonite, and in the visions of Edo the Seer? 561 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,680 Concerning Jeroboam the son of Nebat? 562 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,200 Did I say some of those names right? 563 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:25,520 You did, you know, you're very good. 564 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:26,720 You actually did pretty, pretty good. 565 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,280 No, you did, you did pretty good. 566 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,600 You did pretty good. No, it was great. 567 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,440 OK, so the first thing that we have to clarify is that the 568 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,200 Bible actually never says that the book of Nathan, for example, 569 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,560 was removed from the Bible. OK, It's it's that's not 570 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,320 terminology used. Second, Chronicles 929 refers to 571 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,800 historical records associated with Natan or Ahijah or Edu or 572 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:52,640 sources containing any kind of what I would call additional 573 00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,240 information about Solomon's reign. 574 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:57,200 That's the context. So a biblical writer can 575 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:01,000 actually use a historical source without making that entire 576 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,360 source inspired. It's the same issue that I 577 00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:06,240 talked about earlier. OK, they're referring to an 578 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,280 external resource, but that doesn't mean that it is a 579 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,120 biblical resource. Now, there is an example where 580 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,720 we do have books that are missing that the Bible refers 581 00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:17,720 to. One example is the Chronicles of 582 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:20,880 the Kings of Israel. We don't have the Chronicles of 583 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,640 the Kings of Israel. We only have the Chronicles of 584 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,240 the Kings of Judah. So there's a very big example of 585 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,440 that. Luke, by the way, also consulted 586 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,960 a great example of this, these types of accounts when he put 587 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,960 together his his account of the Bible. 588 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,840 We're in Luke right now and I've talked about this extensively. 589 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,320 Nathan, by the way, was certainly a genuine prophet. 590 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,040 OK, but that doesn't mean anything. 591 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,360 It doesn't. Well, let me put it a better 592 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:50,880 way. It doesn't mean that everything 593 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,160 he ever wrote was intended to become the Bible. 594 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,800 We're making assumption. We're making the assumption of 595 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,000 saying that some of Nathan's material may have been 596 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,920 incorporated into the Book of Samuel or Kings or Chronicles, 597 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,160 but the original record itself apparently didn't survive. 598 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:10,560 So we we can't call them removed books of the Bible or missing 599 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,640 books of the Bible. It it did, it doesn't even get 600 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:16,440 that deep in it. The Bible openly mentions many 601 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,640 what we would call non cantical works. 602 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,160 OK. And that's very, very important. 603 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,520 We we, we actually talked about this in the last question. 604 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,480 And we've talked about like, for example, here's another book, 605 00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,560 the book of Jasher. Some people actually assume that 606 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,160 it's referencing Jeremiah. I don't know if I necessarily 607 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,680 take that view, but mentioning a book doesn't really place it 608 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,400 within the Canon. So that is very interesting. 609 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:44,280 By the way, Second Chronicles, which is the book that we just 610 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,160 introduced to you guys, it actually refers to a phrase. 611 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:52,240 I believe the phrase is the rest of the Acts of Solomon. 612 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:57,400 It it it says that all of those were recorded there, all of the 613 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,440 rest of the acts of Solomon. So that describes additional 614 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,800 history, but not necessarily any missing biblical doctrine or or 615 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,240 revelation. So this was not an inspired 616 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:10,440 book. This isn't like an inspired book 617 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:14,560 that somebody later reviewed it. It was at the time an ancient 618 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,760 source that would have been known to the readers, the 619 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,440 original readers, and God preserved it within the Bible 620 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,880 because he intended for it to be preserved for us to know. 621 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:29,120 So this is these this is these men referring to an external 622 00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:33,920 source that that they that they would not, that they would not 623 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,040 have been familiar with that we would not be familiar with today 624 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,200 because we don't have those materials available to us. 625 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,680 Yep. Let me see here I was looking. 626 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,200 I just love all of these scripture questions. 627 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,720 I'm I'm torn on even jumping to lifestyle but we're going to 628 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:56,560 let's keep going here. So Amy asks what is Paul saying 629 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,120 and 1st there's two questions, 2 individuals who are asking a 630 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,160 similar question. So I'm just going to blend them 631 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,040 together. Amy asked what is Paul saying in 632 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,840 First Corinthians chapter 5 verses 4 through 5 where he is 633 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,600 talking about sexual immorality and tells them to hand a man and 634 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,360 sexual sin over to Satan. Then the the other individual 635 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,760 says why would a Sinner be handed over to Satan for 636 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,000 destruction of the flesh? Why not deliver him to Jesus for 637 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:23,960 his healing and salvation? And then we have. 638 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,920 Such a it's such a great question. 639 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:30,960 It's such a great question. Yeah. 640 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,360 OK. We don't even need to read the 641 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,760 passage because the passage is correctly quoted. 642 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,720 It's not. It's not. 643 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,120 It's not. It's not a bad quote. 644 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,480 What Paul is doing here, we have to understand the context. 645 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,760 Again, you got to know the audience. 646 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,520 You know, the audience is going to be able to better understand 647 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,880 what's being communicated. Paul is addressing A professing 648 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:57,200 believer who is openly living in sexual immorality and a church 649 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,840 that's refusing to actually confront it, which, by the way, 650 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,640 sounds like many of the churches today. 651 00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:07,640 OK, so when you see the phrase to deliver such. 652 00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,880 One unto Satan, it means removing him from the fellowship 653 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:16,840 and actually the the protection that the local church brings. 654 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,280 OK, so the idea here is place him back into the world which 655 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,520 Satan presently influences. That's basically what he is 656 00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,040 saying here. In other words, kick him out of 657 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,720 the church because he needs to go back to the world to excuse 658 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,160 me just one second. I have to do this. 659 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:37,920 So sorry it was driving me crazy. 660 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,040 No, you're fine. That's why there's the mute 661 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:40,760 button. No. 662 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,440 Anybody. Else anything. 663 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,640 I totally love it. So what this is what this is 664 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:47,480 describing is church discipline, OK? 665 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,040 It's not a curse or permission for Satan to take ownership of 666 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,160 the man's soul, OK? For the destruction of the flesh 667 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:59,160 means the breaking of the, the, the, the, the, the sinful 668 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,400 rebellion through painful consequences. 669 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,080 That's what it's actually talking about it. 670 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,440 It could include physical suffering, sure, but the but the 671 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:09,760 goal here is repentance, not damnation. 672 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,920 And that it's interesting because the Bible uses this term 673 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,680 flesh to describe the part of our body that chooses to rebel 674 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:20,320 against God. Paul actually refers to his body 675 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,080 as a death trap. OK, so he gives the purpose very 676 00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,160 clearly. He, he, it's not you cannot say 677 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,720 that it's a curse because Paul at the end of the passage says 678 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:34,840 that the Spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 679 00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,160 That's the that's the reason that he gives, so he's being 680 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:43,440 delivered to the consequences of his sin, his evil choices, so 681 00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:46,400 that he will recognize what his sin is doing. 682 00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:48,840 OK. And when he recognizes the the 683 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,880 folly that his sin brings, they turn back to Christ. 684 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:59,680 So Second Corinthians chapter 2 here may describe the the same 685 00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,480 man. Actually, after he repents, Paul 686 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,800 tells the church later on to forgive, to comfort and to 687 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,960 restore him. By the way, I I can't help but 688 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,440 to do this, but I was just talking about this with some of 689 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,360 my friends. This precisely was the tactic 690 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,720 that Charlie reverted to A lot of people don't necessarily 691 00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:20,080 recognize the biblical precedent behind what Charlie would do. 692 00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:24,640 Charlie would go to school campuses and he would allow 693 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:29,720 people to be given to the ideas that belong to Satan in this 694 00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:31,800 world. He would walk up there. 695 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,800 He would sit down. We used to watch this together, 696 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:35,840 Erica. He would take the microphone, 697 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:41,120 put it on the table, and he would let these kids talk and he 698 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:46,840 would let the big, bad, ugly, sinful world speak clearly to 699 00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:50,120 the nefarious cause of the destruction to their flesh. 700 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,880 One of the, the reason why Charlie won so many kids over 701 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,360 was because he put their own actions on display and he 702 00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,160 allowed the ugliness of this world to show these kids if 703 00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,600 there's a better way. And and that's that portion in 704 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:08,280 Second Corinthians it talks about, you know, and he's 705 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:13,280 talking about the same man, you know, forgive, comfort restored. 706 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,280 That was Charlie, that was the heart. 707 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,320 So why not simply deliver him to Jesus for healing? 708 00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,600 Well, let me answer that. Because he already professed to 709 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,560 belong to Jesus while refusing his authority. 710 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,120 So grace doesn't mean that you can shelter someone from every 711 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,800 consequence while he is definitively continuing to sin. 712 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:37,280 Sometimes the most loving action is to remove the protection that 713 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,480 they're afforded and allow consequences to expose what 714 00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,560 gentle correction may not have changed. 715 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:45,760 That's the picture here. So the goal of biblical 716 00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,560 discipline is always going to be repentance, salvation, 717 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,280 restoration. I do this with my children all 718 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,360 the time, by the way. I, I allow my children sometimes 719 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:57,240 to experience the consequence of their action because sometimes 720 00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,480 that's a better teacher than me trying to protect them. 721 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,480 So that's what's, that's what's actually happening here. 722 00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,000 It's a great, the question is a phenomenal question, by the way. 723 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,440 It's a really, really good question. 724 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:12,560 We have Kristen next. Can you expand further on Amos 725 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:17,560 chapter 8 verse 11 when God says he will bring a famine of 726 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,520 hearing his word. Is this something that people do 727 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,520 to themselves, ignoring the word of the Lord, or will God no 728 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,200 longer speak? And do you think that in part 729 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:31,320 happens today such. A Gosh, that's such a great 730 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,000 question. What a great 51365 family. 731 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,240 Member it's it's an amazing. They are not captured, weak 732 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:40,600 women. It's it's, it's what I would 733 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,800 call a thinking man's question. Like Kristen probably could have 734 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,080 been one of the writers of Ocean's 11, you know what I 735 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,800 mean? Like it's just a very, very, 736 00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,640 very smart question. Great family. 737 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,080 Yeah, no, this. Is great, I love it. 738 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,560 OK, So what this was, and you got to look at the context here, 739 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,880 is this was a judgment upon Israel because they repeatedly 740 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:03,440 chose to reject God's word while at the same time practicing 741 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:08,120 idolatry, executing unjust things, and and then pretending 742 00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,480 that they still loved God. So, you know, you could call it 743 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:14,760 religious hypocrisy. They created the conditions 744 00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,280 through their persistent rejection. 745 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,480 OK, God. All God did was confirm their 746 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,720 choice by withdrawing any kind of prophetic revelation. 747 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,720 In other words, I send my prophets. 748 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,160 You reject them, you reject them. 749 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,240 You reject them. Guess what? 750 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,720 We're going to be quiet for a while. 751 00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:30,800 You're not going to hear anything. 752 00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,280 I want you to notice something that's really important. 753 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,960 I want you to notice that the word famine here, it's not 754 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,360 necessarily an absence of written words. 755 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,840 It's, it's a famine. Notice, notice the phrase and it 756 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,520 matters. OK, It's a famine of hearing. 757 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,160 So, so people would desperately seek a word from the Lord, but 758 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,280 the prophetic voice that they despise would no longer be 759 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,000 available. If they wanted to hear a word 760 00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,880 from the Lord, they'd have to go to his, to his word, to the 761 00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,640 actual scrolls that had the words of the prophets that had 762 00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,320 already been written down, the kind of words that got burned 763 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:06,840 that Jeremiah wrote and had to write all over again. 764 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,280 So the principle that we see here actually, believe it or 765 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,920 not, appears throughout the Bible. 766 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,520 And it's not just for Jews, it's for Christians alike or anybody, 767 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,720 even people who don't know the Lord. 768 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,360 When people continually refuse truth that's being given to 769 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,800 them, God may eventually give them over to what they have 770 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,480 chosen. The Pharaoh is a great example 771 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,880 of this. It can happen in part today when 772 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,240 churches possess Bibles but replace faithful teaching with 773 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:36,080 them stupidity, right entertainment, all kinds of 774 00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,040 other things. These messages that they're 775 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,280 putting together, these pastors that are designed to never 776 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:42,720 offend. It's wicked. 777 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,880 So we we're we're presently in the world in which we Live 778 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:48,840 Today. We're not without God's word. 779 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,360 There's so many ways we can get into God's word. 780 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,960 The completed Bible remains available and God speaks through 781 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,240 it. But there is a famine today, OK, 782 00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:03,560 of people who are faithfully proclaiming the word of God. 783 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,000 We're in a famine like that right now. 784 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,200 Very few people are doing it. And the warning is severe. 785 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,640 It's very severe. Never assume that God is, is 786 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:18,920 actually going to sit persistently with you and allow 787 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,480 you to reject him indefinitely. It's not going to happen. 788 00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:28,400 So it's, it's, I think it, it, it comes with a strong warning. 789 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:31,600 But this is exactly what Amos is saying, by the way, some people 790 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,880 will look at this and say, well, this is God's permanent curse on 791 00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:36,800 the Jews, except for the fact that an Amos at the very end of 792 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:40,160 Amos, Amos says that he'll, he will, he will plant his people 793 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,640 back into their land, never to be plucked again. 794 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:44,680 That's an Amos Chapter 9, one of my favorite passages in the 795 00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,560 Bible. So it's it's kind of a dangerous 796 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:53,680 place to be. Yeah, let's do. 797 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:58,280 Laura, can you please bring together the difference in the 798 00:47:58,280 --> 00:48:02,280 book of James, which highlights works, versus Paul who 799 00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,640 highlights faith over works? I know all the Bible is truth, 800 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,920 so I would love to tie the differences together. 801 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:10,360 Yeah, this is great. This is actually another great 802 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,640 question. OK, So Paul and James, they're 803 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:14,600 not contradicting one another, not by any stretch of the 804 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,800 imagination, OK? They're actually confronting 2 805 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,160 very different errors. Paul is explaining how a Sinner 806 00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,480 is justified before God. OK what Paul says this is like 807 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,800 Romans principle right? A man is justified by faith 808 00:48:27,240 --> 00:48:30,520 without the deeds of the law. So the whole idea here is the 809 00:48:30,520 --> 00:48:32,640 Bible says you can't go to heaven unless you fulfill the 810 00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:34,240 law of God perfectly. Well guess what? 811 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:37,040 No human beings fulfill the law of God perfectly other than 812 00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,120 Christ. So what you do is you put your 813 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,280 faith and trust in Christ. You take off your robe of 814 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,840 righteousness, which the Bible calls a filthy rag, literally a 815 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,160 menstrual cloth, a dirty menstrual, and you put on the 816 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,160 robe of righteousness of Jesus, the robe that he wore when he 817 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:56,600 lived perfectly on this world. So when you go before the Lord, 818 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,960 the Lord God our Father, he judges you. 819 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,560 He actually recognizes as though you lived a perfect life. 820 00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:05,640 Oh look, Erica, you lived a perfect life. 821 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:06,800 Well, did you live the perfect life? 822 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,800 No, but he sees the perfect life Christ lived and you are wearing 823 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,240 his robe of righteousness. So you get the credit for the 824 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:15,520 perfect life that he lived. That's what happened in the 825 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,880 crucifixion in the resurrection. That authority for us to be able 826 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:22,240 to have that came Now James is explaining how genuine faith 827 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:25,920 actually becomes visible. OK and that's when he says 828 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,400 faith, if it hath not works is dead being alone. 829 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,240 That's what he's talking about South Paul opposes people that 830 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:35,120 are trying to earn salvation through works and James is 831 00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,280 opposing people claiming to possess saving faith while 832 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,160 producing no evidence of having a spiritual life. 833 00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:45,640 So Paul will actually focus on, in my opinion, what what what we 834 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,400 would call the very core of salvation. 835 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,840 How do you, how do you, how do you obtain it right? 836 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,200 And then James focuses on the fruit of salvation. 837 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,800 So if you were to put it in more simple terms, Paul focuses on 838 00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:01,240 taking seed and planting it in the ground, OK, while James 839 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:04,040 focuses on focusing on whether there's not fruit. 840 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,560 If there's no tree that comes out, if there's no fruit, 841 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,400 there's probably not seed in the ground, but the seed goes in the 842 00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:13,880 ground through the act of faith. So Abraham the by the way, this 843 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,480 you look, you couldn't, you can't effectively answer this 844 00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,720 question without bringing up Abraham. 845 00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:22,160 He was justified before God by faith. 846 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:27,680 Genesis 15 tells us that years later, his willingness to offer 847 00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,800 Isaac was evidence of the faith that he already had. 848 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:34,360 That was in Genesis chapter 22. He demonstrated that his faith 849 00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,000 was genuine. So works don't produce 850 00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:39,680 salvation, but genuine salvation produces works. 851 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,040 So we're saved by grace through faith alone. 852 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:44,960 That's a very important principle. 853 00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:49,640 But the faith that saves never remains alone. 854 00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,000 Actually, by the way, I'll just say this because I'm, I'm, I'm 855 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:54,680 being dangerous and saying they're both contrasting with 856 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:55,360 each other. They're not. 857 00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:58,200 Paul actually says the same thing he says in one of my 858 00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,960 favorite passages in the Bible, Ephesians chapter 2, verses 8 859 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,240 through 10. He says we're not saved by good 860 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:09,960 works, but but after salvation we're what created in Christ 861 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,920 Jesus unto good works. We're God's poem. 862 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,440 Poema is the word that's used. It's powerful. 863 00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:19,560 So God saved us and then he purposes us for his work. 864 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,160 And if we're not doing his work, maybe we got a bigger problem. 865 00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:28,160 Amen. I love our are younger readers 866 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:32,840 and I'm going to hop to lifestyle questions really quick 867 00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,240 because this is one of our readers in high school and so 868 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:41,920 her name's Josie She she says I'm 16 and I love the Lord. 869 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,560 My favorite things are the daily encouragements that I find in 870 00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,960 Bible and 365. They really make me think. 871 00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:54,280 I agree with today's Foley. It reads your thought. 872 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,840 Life is a critical battlefront where faith, hope, love, and all 873 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,960 their rivals are cultivated. Unless you want a constant 874 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:04,200 battle between obedience in your heart's desires, you will need 875 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:06,200 to seek a fundamental change within. 876 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,040 Don't just act different, be different. 877 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,080 I guess I'm not quite sure where to start the changing process. 878 00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:15,160 I want to change the way I think and not have to battle so much 879 00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:18,760 in my mind when making decisions, but other than pray 880 00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,960 I'm not sure how to do that. I know it's God who changes 881 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,760 hearts and minds, but how can I be proactive in making myself 882 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,160 moldable? Do you have any advice? 883 00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:37,200 Oh, that's hard not to get emotional. 884 00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:43,880 I know, so sweet. I used to have this conversation 885 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,400 on multiple occasions with Charlie. 886 00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:49,840 Yeah. You know, one of the passages 887 00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:52,640 that Charlie was obsessed with was Romans chapter 12. 888 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:56,200 Verses 2. Viewing of your mind. 889 00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,080 Yeah, let me get my emotions together for a second. 890 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,080 Let me let me just do this. I'm going to hit the mute button 891 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,520 and then I'm going to explain why this is so emotional for me. 892 00:53:09,510 --> 00:53:12,470 OK, first let me let me just say this. 893 00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:20,640 The fact that you want your mind change is already evidence that 894 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,040 that God is working in you. OK. 895 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:31,440 Do not assume that spiritual maturity means that the battle 896 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,600 disappears. Whatever you do, don't make that 897 00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,080 assumption. Growth. 898 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:40,040 Growth means that you become better equipped to recognize the 899 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:45,560 battle and obey God within it. This. 900 00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:50,120 This was one of the conundrums that me and Charlie used to 901 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:54,080 always talk about because the general assumption naturally 902 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,920 would be that the battle would lessen, when in reality the 903 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:03,360 battle actually increases. But as the battle increases, the 904 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:06,800 battle becomes a better tool to help you become something 905 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:15,560 greater because of one simple rule transformation. 906 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:28,440 Look. Romans chapter 12, verse two. 907 00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:31,160 Let me just let me just I don't even need to read it. 908 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,920 I mean, obviously I could I could quote it in Greek. 909 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:37,440 OK. It actually says be you 910 00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:40,640 transformed by the renewing of your mind. 911 00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:50,040 That renewal happens only as God's Word begins replacing the 912 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:55,200 old patterns of thought in your mind when you read the Bible 913 00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,280 consistently. And you're asking, what does 914 00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,120 this teach me about God? What? 915 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:05,640 What thinking must I change? What should I obey today? 916 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:13,160 Look, be very careful. Be very careful about what you 917 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,680 continually placed before your eyes and your ears. 918 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,320 I know I sound a little scatterbrained, but this is 919 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,160 where this becomes really critical. 920 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:25,480 What what you repeatedly consume, what you repeatedly 921 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,880 consume will literally become the very thing that will 922 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,880 eventually shape what you desire. 923 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:36,240 It will shape your mind. When a wrong thought begins to 924 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:39,520 surface within your mind and within your heart, don't 925 00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:43,000 entertain it. Identify it, compare it with 926 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:46,240 what the Bible says and reject the lie and replace it with the 927 00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:48,360 truth. If the thought that you have is 928 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:52,760 one that is biblical, then identify it and receive it. 929 00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,360 Philippians chapter 4 actually gives you the filter. 930 00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:57,480 We Charlie used to talk about this. 931 00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,360 Philippians 4 gives you the filter. 932 00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,600 The filter is whatsoever is true, whatever is honest, 933 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,600 whatever is just pure, lovely, you know, spiritually 934 00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:09,120 beneficial. Think on these things. 935 00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:14,120 That's what it says. So when you choose to do 936 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,720 something that's in direct contradiction with God, you 937 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:19,720 confess the sin quickly. Leave a short account with God. 938 00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:23,120 The longer you defend or hide something, the harder your heart 939 00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:25,880 will become. You have to stay close. 940 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,640 You have to stay close to the word of God and one of the best 941 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,960 ways of staying close to the word of God is identify mature 942 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,040 believers in your life that will encourage you, that will correct 943 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,400 you and help you to grow. Is one of the things I used to 944 00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:44,200 tell Charlie all the time. I'd say, bro, more than ever, me 945 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:47,920 and you need to be around people that don't care about any 946 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,360 associations we have, rather are willing to tell us the truth 947 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:52,480 when we don't. You want to hear it. 948 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,360 You got to be surrounded by people like that. 949 00:56:57,360 --> 00:57:01,120 If you're going to be moldable, it means you have to be 950 00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,680 approaching God with this attitude. 951 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,880 Lord, if Your Word disagrees with me, I'm the one who has to 952 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,840 change you. You can't transform your own 953 00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,960 heart, but you can place yourself where God regularly 954 00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,080 works. That's the thing. 955 00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,120 You see, when He works, He'll start working in His Word. 956 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:21,160 He'll start working in your communication with Him in 957 00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:23,680 prayer, He'll start working. Here's one of my favorite areas 958 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:27,600 to talk about in obedience. The apostle Paul finishes 959 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:32,320 selling that in Romans 12. He says your reasonable service 960 00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,520 is to live sacrificially, but you've got to do it all among 961 00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,960 his people. By the way, I say this all the 962 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,520 time and I get beat up when I say it, but it's true. 963 00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:43,560 You are nuts if you think that Christ went to the cross 964 00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:44,880 willingly. He didn't. 965 00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:48,280 That is not true. He went to the cross obediently. 966 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,480 He went to the Father. He said, if this cup can pass 967 00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:55,240 for me, let it pass nevertheless, not my will be 968 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,360 done, but thy will be done. Our obedience in and of itself 969 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:03,920 produces long term gains that are transformative. 970 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:10,160 They change people's lives. So the answer to that question 971 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,920 is keep down that trajectory. And you know, the other reason 972 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:16,800 why I'm very emotional by this is because 16 is when I chose to 973 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,880 put my, my faith and trust in the Lord, like at a true level. 974 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,000 And, and the journey has been amazing since it's been, it's 975 00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,320 been one of the greatest journeys. 976 00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:32,120 Amen. I'll do another lifestyle 977 00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:36,520 question and then go into Back to Scripture 1, Carrie Anne 978 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,800 says. My husband and I left our church 979 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,080 in Massachusetts due to progressivism and we've had 980 00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,400 trouble finding a new one. We decided to either move South 981 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,840 or stay and start a home church. God also put on my heart a while 982 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,800 back to start a women's ministry to help young women know who 983 00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:56,840 they are in Christ. After praying and fasting, we 984 00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,120 felt a strong sense to stay because I truly believe I heard 985 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,320 the Lord say do you not trust me? 986 00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:07,040 And if all Christians leave, who will help those lost here? 987 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:11,320 Since then, our state has proposed a new Muslim equality 988 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,480 group and approved abortion up until birth. 989 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,480 I feel so sick to my stomach and discouraged and I've no idea 990 00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:21,760 what to do for our family. I feel like we might have made a 991 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:24,760 mistake, but I'm also ready to fight for our beautiful 992 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,600 historical state. I feel like maybe I didn't hear 993 00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:29,840 God. I'm just trying hard to spend 994 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:33,280 more time in the word and with God while raising 2 little boys, 995 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,480 but it's so hard to hear God right now. 996 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,760 Do you have any advice on how we move forward and if it's worth 997 00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,840 staying when your state is going so corrupt? 998 00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,920 And when do we call it and decide to leave? 999 00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,280 OK, this is a tough one because obviously this is not a popular 1000 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,160 answer to give. It's it's one of the answers 1001 00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:55,800 that I often times get. Beat up for giving, but but 1002 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:57,280 first, let me just simply say this. 1003 00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,600 Whatever you do, don't make this decision from fear. 1004 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,720 Don't make this decision from guilt or the belief that you 1005 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,440 must personally rescue the the great. 1006 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,520 State of Massachusetts. OK, I'm not saying that 1007 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:16,120 sarcastically. Look, a strong impression that 1008 01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:19,400 you might be feeling such as, do you not trust me? 1009 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,040 You know where you feel like this is the Lord asking this 1010 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:24,720 question. It always has to be tested by 1011 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,120 the Bible. OK, God's Word is absolutely 1012 01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,360 authoritative and our impressions are not infallible. 1013 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,520 They can create an element of deception within our hearts. 1014 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:42,200 OK, staying can be very faithful, granted. 1015 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,520 OK, And leaving can also be very faithful. 1016 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,080 That's the thing that we just have to look at here. 1017 01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,560 So the Bible, the Bible doesn't command every Christian to 1018 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:55,960 remain in a particular state or a particular location. 1019 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,080 I'm not going to even use the I'm not going to, I'm not going 1020 01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,880 to implement the invocation of the term state. 1021 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:03,240 Let's just say any location, regardless of what happens 1022 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:09,920 there, you have to ask whether you can provide your family with 1023 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,200 the things that you're biblically obligated to provide 1024 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,960 first, OK? So you have to ask questions 1025 01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:17,080 like can you provide your children with a healthy church, 1026 01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,200 with godly relationships? That's a big one, right? 1027 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:24,920 Physical safety is another one. Can you provide an essence, an 1028 01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,680 environment where your family can live faithfully according to 1029 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,720 what God has said? Now your husband is a massive 1030 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,480 part of this. OK, you should reach genuine 1031 01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:38,240 unity on this. Your husband is a great tool 1032 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,480 that God can use to bring safety to the emotions that you might 1033 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:48,760 experience on on what to do. Don't build a a major decision 1034 01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,560 about something like this upon the impression of one spouse 1035 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,640 while the other one actually remains unsettled, God will 1036 01:01:55,640 --> 01:01:58,280 align both of your hearts. If you don't do that, you're 1037 01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,000 going to create a bigger problem for yourself. 1038 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:06,240 Now let me say this from from experience, because I started 1039 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,640 Calvary Chapel, Signal Hill by God's grace over 20 years ago, 1040 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:12,200 and we've grown in ways I never thought possible. 1041 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:17,760 Starting a home church is simply, let me let me rephrase 1042 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,200 this. Starting a home church is not 1043 01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:26,840 simply a Bible study, OK? A biblical church has to have 1044 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,400 qualified leadership. It has to be able to teach sound 1045 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:33,880 doctrine. It has to provide accountability 1046 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,200 at a lot of levels that most people don't even think about 1047 01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:37,560 it. It it. 1048 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:40,760 It has to provide mechanisms of worship, like for example, 1049 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,760 praise. You have to develop ordinances 1050 01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:46,840 that are legally binding ordinances, so to speak. 1051 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:51,800 OK, it takes a lot of discipline and you don't have a church if 1052 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:57,120 you don't have pastoral care. So not that I want to discourage 1053 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,920 you, OK, But the same applies to a woman's ministry. 1054 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:05,320 That desire is a great desire, but it should ideally operate 1055 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:11,480 under the oversight of a very sound and and a very local 1056 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,520 church rather than carrying the burden independently. 1057 01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,240 The reason why my wife's women's ministry does so well is because 1058 01:03:18,240 --> 01:03:21,040 it is under not only the covering of her husband, but 1059 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:24,280 it's under the covering of the organization, the church, and 1060 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,440 that provides a lot of benefits. So you have to establish clear 1061 01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,520 conditions for staying. You have to have if, if, if 1062 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:37,440 you're going to do it right, you have to have a, a defined 1063 01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,880 period, as you mentioned, you probably have already done of 1064 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,600 prayer. You're going to have to think 1065 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:47,000 about churches that you're going to investigate. 1066 01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,600 There's a lot of things that you have to do, OK. 1067 01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,920 You also have to establish clear reasons to leave. 1068 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,800 OK, a lot of people misquote the Abraham passage where God tells 1069 01:03:56,800 --> 01:03:59,880 him to go, but there was there was no direction as in where he 1070 01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,480 was going to go. Well, I got if Abraham heard 1071 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,320 from God audibly OK and God told him what he was walking into. 1072 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:14,640 So you have to have reasons to leave it Look and and there are 1073 01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,080 some serious ones right there. There are some ones that are 1074 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:21,280 valid, like for example, like this prolonged inability to find 1075 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:26,600 sound fellowship or some kind of serious harm to your children or 1076 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,720 loss of essential freedoms. Those are things that are that 1077 01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,720 are worthwhile, right? But you have to really evaluate 1078 01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:35,840 it for what it is. And you have to ask yourself, am 1079 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,200 I creating this condition? The bottom line is this look, 1080 01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:44,800 you're responsible to obey God and to shepherd your family, not 1081 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,160 to prove your courage by remaining somewhere indefinitely 1082 01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:51,120 or going somewhere. As I said before, Abraham was 1083 01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,640 called to leave. Daniel was called to remain in 1084 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:58,200 Babylon like you could. Faithfulness is not defined by 1085 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,320 where you are. Geography doesn't determine 1086 01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,760 that. Follow the Bible, seek wise 1087 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:08,960 counsel, reach unity with your with your husband as husband and 1088 01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:12,880 wife, and do whatever you can to make the wisest decision without 1089 01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,120 allowing any kind of guilt to call a disobedience. 1090 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:17,760 That's a that's a critical thing. 1091 01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,280 That's not an easy conclusion to come to, but it's something 1092 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:23,440 that's definitely worth exploring and understanding it. 1093 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,000 Now speaking to the issue of Islam, that's a whole other 1094 01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:31,560 issue and Islam is dangerous. It's evil, it's it's demonically 1095 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,080 inspired and it's satanic. I can't help but to often times 1096 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,200 quote one of the passages in the Quran. 1097 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,840 There's a passage in the Quran that says this. 1098 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,080 Well, makarul makarul allahu Allahu hide al makarina. 1099 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:42,160 You know what that means in Arabic? 1100 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,880 It means that Allah is the chief of deceivers. 1101 01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:48,560 Like imagine who does the Bible call the chief of deceivers? 1102 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:54,520 It's it is wild. So it taking over is a terrible 1103 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,640 reflection on the people in whatever community you're in 1104 01:05:57,640 --> 01:06:01,600 there. But man, it's it's it's. 1105 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:04,040 A problem just because Charlie, this was a drum beat of 1106 01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:08,520 Charlie's as well. Can you just give just a quick, 1107 01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,080 it's hard to do a quick one, but if you can just give and shine 1108 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:17,560 some light on on Islam and our country. 1109 01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:22,400 Yeah, yeah. So this is something that I 1110 01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,400 don't want any argument over When people talk to me, I mean, 1111 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,920 I'll, I'll dialogue with them. But the reality of it is Islam 1112 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:33,080 is dangerous for our country. Islamic fundamentalism is 1113 01:06:33,080 --> 01:06:35,280 dangerous. Because if I am a fundamentalist 1114 01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:38,760 of the Quran, then I believe a series of things that are 1115 01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,400 absolutely bad for this country. And I can give you a list of 1116 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:46,960 them. And by the way, it is not just 1117 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:51,600 dangerous, it's destructive in ways that we can't even possibly 1118 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,640 imagine. I did a video on what just 1119 01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,680 happened in Spain. And people just don't understand 1120 01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:03,800 how terribly bad it is. OK, if you are an Islamist, if 1121 01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,560 you are a fundamentalist, you believe certain things. 1122 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,800 You believe that Islamic law should supersede civil law. 1123 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,320 It's called Sharia law. You also believe that apostasy, 1124 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:17,480 That's what they would call it. Apostasy from Islam should be 1125 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,080 punished, and in most cases it's punishment by death. 1126 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,440 You also believe that blasphemy against Muhammad should be 1127 01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:27,680 punished. That's also punishable by death. 1128 01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,440 They also believe that religious and political authority should 1129 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:40,280 be ultimately joined and the political authority that exists 1130 01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,560 should be designed to create consequences for anybody that 1131 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,840 does not submit themselves to the teachings of the Quran. 1132 01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:52,120 Men and women do not possess equal standing. 1133 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,680 That's another one. Jews and Christians may. 1134 01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,640 They may be allowed to live under Islamic rule only with a 1135 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,800 what with what they call a subordinate status. 1136 01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:05,320 Meaning if you convert to Christianity or Judaism, you're 1137 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,240 dead. But if you were born into one of 1138 01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,200 those families, you can live, but it'll be a miserable life. 1139 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:15,000 And let's not even get started on jihad because declarations of 1140 01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:19,560 jihad can include all kinds of things from armed conflict to 1141 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:24,439 advance or, or, or defend any kind of Islamic rule, Not to 1142 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:29,040 mention the fact that we deal with on a regular basis the 1143 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:33,880 movement that is found within Islam for deception, OK. 1144 01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,920 And when we talk about phrases like takaya, which is, you know, 1145 01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:40,640 lying, when we talk about some of the, the evils that come with 1146 01:08:40,640 --> 01:08:43,040 Islam, it's, it's very, very dangerous. 1147 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,680 A lot of people have a difficult time understanding this because 1148 01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,640 they don't understand it. They don't speak the language, 1149 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:49,200 they don't know the, the background. 1150 01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:53,319 And quite frankly, 18% of the Islamic world speaks Arabic. 1151 01:08:54,520 --> 01:08:58,000 Other than that, it's different. And even, let me also say this 1152 01:08:58,000 --> 01:08:59,720 about the, about the reality of Islam. 1153 01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:06,000 OK, look, most Muslims right now, most people that call 1154 01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,319 themselves Muslims, even in this country that don't do any of the 1155 01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:12,479 things that the Quran would necessarily tell them to do. 1156 01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:14,560 They don't know their own religion. 1157 01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,359 OK, And I'm going to go back to that in just a second, but but 1158 01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:21,240 let me just simply say, let's just talk about the extant 1159 01:09:21,240 --> 01:09:23,160 manuscripts that exist of the Quran. 1160 01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:25,880 We don't have a lot of extant manuscripts. 1161 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:28,600 Matter of fact, there are no extant manuscripts of the Quran 1162 01:09:28,840 --> 01:09:30,880 that exist during the time of Muhammad. 1163 01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:36,600 One of the one of the greatest Islamic scholars in Texas 1164 01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:40,080 actually took away the credibility of the Hadith. 1165 01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,840 If you think about it, and this is a guy who's very, very 1166 01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:48,359 respected, Yasser Qadi. As a matter of fact, the one 1167 01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:52,120 question that he still to this day cannot answer goes right 1168 01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,320 back to the ecstasy of these manuscripts. 1169 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,240 The the, the validity of the exit manuscripts, the surviving 1170 01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:00,880 manuscripts. You, you do not have anything 1171 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,800 that dates to that. Matter of fact, most of them 1172 01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:07,200 date back to the Ottoman Empire. And quite frankly, even the 1173 01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,280 mention of the name Muhammad is not in the Quran. 1174 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:14,960 We see 4 instances in the Quran of the word Muhammad and 1175 01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,760 Muhammad is different from Muhammad. 1176 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:19,000 Muhammad is very likely referring to Christ. 1177 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:24,520 The reality of it is Islam is better defined or not as a world 1178 01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,400 religion. It's actually better defined as 1179 01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,160 a cult of Christianity for a lot of different reasons. 1180 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,640 It is destructive. It is satanically inspired, and 1181 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:37,920 at every level it brings deception, the kind that will 1182 01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:40,840 absolutely destroy any society it touches. 1183 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:42,240 And we have evidence of it everywhere. 1184 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,240 Go look and see what's happening in Europe right now. 1185 01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:46,240 Go look at some of the Middle Eastern countries that have 1186 01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,280 given themselves to it, you know, again, and think about how 1187 01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:52,000 destructive it is. We have a guy, just to give you 1188 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,760 a perspective, we have a guy who is the mayor of New York who 1189 01:10:55,760 --> 01:11:02,360 stands under a tunnel in solidarity, yes, solidarity with 1190 01:11:02,360 --> 01:11:05,680 Hamas. He wouldn't be able to identify 1191 01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,640 a single thing of what they believe if it meant there, if it 1192 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,520 meant his life. He stands under a tunnel in 1193 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:17,400 solidarity with Hamas while he's putting his hands on a document 1194 01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:25,640 for swearing in that actually says that calls Allah the chief 1195 01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:28,920 of deceivers. Imagine how backwards that is. 1196 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:34,200 But there's a rise in those guys, and they may not be 1197 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:38,560 idealistically matched, but they are very closely tied into 1198 01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:44,080 communism and Marxism, cultural Marxism, because of what they're 1199 01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:47,760 committed to doing prior to coming into the place where they 1200 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:52,080 rule everything completely. It's destructive, it's broken, 1201 01:11:52,320 --> 01:11:57,600 it's evil, and at every level it claims every good thing that God 1202 01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,480 has stood to call good. And what makes it even more 1203 01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:03,600 interesting to me is when you look at these popular figures, 1204 01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,680 and I don't have to mention their names, who stand behind 1205 01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,600 Islam because they say Islam stands for righteousness more 1206 01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:13,520 than Christianity does. Yet those same people are 1207 01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,640 exploiters. Tell me how that works. 1208 01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,400 It's because Islam permits them to do so when Muhammad is having 1209 01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,120 sexual contact according to the Quran that I don't even believe 1210 01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:29,120 is a real document when it actually says that he's when, 1211 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:32,600 when we find out not in the Quran, but in the, in the, the, 1212 01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,800 the documents that surround the Quran actually tell us that he's 1213 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,160 having a sexual experience with a nine year old and that it's 1214 01:12:39,160 --> 01:12:42,440 justified and it's correct and that people in Islam today don't 1215 01:12:42,440 --> 01:12:44,040 have any problem with it. We got to be. 1216 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,320 There's a big problem that we have in our hands. 1217 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,120 Now, with all that said, let me just make myself very, very 1218 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:54,600 clear. We need to learn how to love 1219 01:12:54,600 --> 01:12:57,560 these people and we need to learn how to share Jesus with 1220 01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,960 them. And we need to tell them the 1221 01:12:59,960 --> 01:13:03,440 truth about the danger that exists within the things that 1222 01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:07,160 they believe. And I think that that is going 1223 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,000 to take some real dedication and it's going to take some real 1224 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:11,480 knowledge of what it is that they're dealing with. 1225 01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:13,520 I can recommend Doctor J Smith, he's phenomenal. 1226 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,400 I'm going to interview him again this upcoming week. 1227 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:17,480 We've done a lot of work together on the subject of 1228 01:13:17,480 --> 01:13:18,880 Islam. He might be, in my opinion, one 1229 01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:23,040 of the biggest hitters out there, but you have to be aware 1230 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,280 of it because it is destructive. And what they want to do to this 1231 01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,320 country is destructive. And what they're trying to do in 1232 01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:33,840 this country by inspiring social media people to embrace them 1233 01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:36,120 like they're like, like what they're doing is good. 1234 01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:39,720 It's evil, it's dark, and it's continuing on. 1235 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:41,840 And we have to be careful. If you're, by the way, if you're 1236 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,480 truly concerned about foreign money coming into this country, 1237 01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,080 stop looking at Israel. So start looking at what are 1238 01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,160 these Islamic nations are doing right now and start looking at 1239 01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:54,800 countries like China. There are hundreds of billions 1240 01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,400 of dollars coming in from all of them. 1241 01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,800 Again, most people don't want to educate themselves on it. 1242 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:02,880 They just don't. And it's dangerous. 1243 01:14:03,160 --> 01:14:07,400 But Islam is destructive. It's uniquely destructive at 1244 01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:13,040 virtually every level. So we are going to hop down to a 1245 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,880 scripture question. It's the last one I asked them. 1246 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:22,160 I didn't, I didn't see until now they are asking about First 1247 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:29,680 Corinthians chapter 5 verse 11 talking about how basically he's 1248 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,920 this is his question. Is it not that brothers and 1249 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:37,040 sisters, all of us, even though we are already Christians as 1250 01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,840 none can claim purity, can sin and fall like multiple times, 1251 01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,000 yet with repentance through God's mercy and grace we are 1252 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,080 made new in Christ, not purged out. 1253 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,120 Even Jesus hung out with sinners. 1254 01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:53,280 Why then did the Apostle Paul have such a tone of finality 1255 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:56,280 regarding condemnation of sinners in the Church of 1256 01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:01,120 Corinth? OK, I'm not sure I completely 1257 01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,280 understand what like what his question. 1258 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:11,080 I think he's saying is how come Paul is saying do do not I'm 1259 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,640 writing you to not associate with anyone who bears the name 1260 01:15:13,680 --> 01:15:17,000 of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed or 1261 01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:25,080 drunkard or swindler. But yet Jesus broke bread with 1262 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,040 sinners, hung out with sinners. I think he's saying why I think 1263 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:31,200 he's comparing the two. OK. 1264 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,680 And what was, what was the specific passage that he's 1265 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,760 asking about that that actually might help me a little bit. 1266 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,280 Maybe I can look at that. Yeah, first, sorry, First 1267 01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:44,920 Corinthians chapter 5, verse 11. OK, First Corinthians 511, let 1268 01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,120 me bring that up here and let me take a look at that really 1269 01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,480 quickly and let me see, because I might have a better idea of of 1270 01:15:51,880 --> 01:15:54,640 what that means. Let me read it just really 1271 01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,480 quickly because that that for whatever reason, it's. 1272 01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:58,680 I'm stumped. I'm not so sure that I 1273 01:15:58,680 --> 01:16:01,360 understand exactly. OK, let me read this really 1274 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:04,280 quickly. You can read it out loud if you 1275 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,680 need to. OK, but now I'm writing to you 1276 01:16:07,680 --> 01:16:10,080 not to associate with anyone who bears the name of the brother if 1277 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:13,080 he's guilty. Oh OK, this is easy. 1278 01:16:13,160 --> 01:16:14,440 OK, I think I understand the question. 1279 01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:17,760 OK. No, no, no, no, no, no. 1280 01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:18,800 That makes sense. That makes sense. 1281 01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,600 For whatever reason, I had a brain block. 1282 01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:22,840 OK, Yeah, this is pretty easy. All right? 1283 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,360 And stop me in the middle of this if if I got this wrong or 1284 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:27,560 if I'm not understanding it wrong, Erica, if I'm not paying 1285 01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,280 attention to it. But what I think he's asking 1286 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,480 about is, well, let me just answer it. 1287 01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:37,040 Paul's not commanding the church to reject every Christian who 1288 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,200 sins. That's not what's happening 1289 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:38,800 here. OK. 1290 01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:41,520 If that were the standard, then nobody would remain in 1291 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,160 fellowship and we actually wouldn't have a church. 1292 01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,920 He's actually addressing somebody who bears the name of 1293 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:48,920 of brother. In other words, he calls himself 1294 01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,680 a brother while openly and persistently. 1295 01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,920 And here's the key, unrepentantly living in serious 1296 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,520 sin. So there's a major difference. 1297 01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,520 You know, people come up to me all the time and say, man, I'm 1298 01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,560 doing all these evil things and it's very serious sin. 1299 01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:04,920 But they're struggling, they're coming, they're saying I need 1300 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:06,080 help. Please pray for me. 1301 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,800 I messed up again. There's there's a major 1302 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:11,240 difference between struggling against sin and actually 1303 01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:14,160 defending it. Now a repentant believer may 1304 01:17:14,160 --> 01:17:17,200 fall repeatedly that that happens, but he confesses his 1305 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:19,320 sin. He continues turning turning 1306 01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:23,440 towards the Lord and I work with people all that you know, I work 1307 01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:26,120 with people in church that come to me with that kind of stuff 1308 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:29,640 all the time. This man was actually opening 1309 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:35,880 openly practicing sexual immorality, and the church was 1310 01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,880 like proudly tolerating it. That's like the language here. 1311 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:43,000 So when when he says not to eat, because that's the passage he's 1312 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:49,720 talking about, it refers to withdrawing what we would call 1313 01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:51,400 like normal Christian fellowship. 1314 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:54,120 So the church doesn't communicate approval of his 1315 01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:55,920 rebellion. In other words, don't sit down 1316 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,480 and have a meal with this guy because what you're in essence 1317 01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:01,080 doing is you're saying I approve of the life that you're living. 1318 01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,600 So. So Paul actually says he's not 1319 01:18:04,600 --> 01:18:08,400 speaking about Paul. Paul specifically here is not 1320 01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:10,680 speaking about avoiding believers, OK? 1321 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:14,920 Otherwise Christians would have, I mean, they'd have to just 1322 01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:17,080 leave the world entirely. Like there's no other way of 1323 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,480 putting it. Jesus actually ate with sinners, 1324 01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:21,800 but he ate with sinners to call them to repentance. 1325 01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:25,120 But he's also God, OK? He never treated continuing 1326 01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:27,280 rebellion as acceptable. As a matter of fact, he openly 1327 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,600 condemned it. So church discipline is not is 1328 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:35,280 not what people are conflating with a final condemnation. 1329 01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,600 And by any stretch of the imagination, the whole purpose 1330 01:18:38,120 --> 01:18:43,800 of of repentance, The whole purpose is to bring on 1331 01:18:43,960 --> 01:18:46,080 repentance and restoration. That's probably the better way 1332 01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,920 of putting it. The moment any kind of genuine 1333 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,880 repentance becomes evident, well, my goodness, the church 1334 01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,680 should forgive. The church should comfort and, 1335 01:18:56,680 --> 01:18:59,240 and, and restore the person who's actually done that. 1336 01:18:59,440 --> 01:19:03,320 So the, I think the bottom line is Christians are not, are not 1337 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,760 purged from fellowship because they're imperfect. 1338 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,200 Discipline becomes necessary when someone just claims, I 1339 01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:12,080 don't care, I'm a Christian, I'm walking with God. 1340 01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,480 But there's nothing wrong with doing this. 1341 01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:15,400 And there are lots of people who fall in this category, by the 1342 01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:17,400 way, but the church does nothing about it. 1343 01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,760 As a matter of fact, some people in the name of their sin, become 1344 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,320 pastors and start new churches, which they're not pastors and 1345 01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:23,680 those are not churches they've started. 1346 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,360 But I think that's what he's talking about here. 1347 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:30,240 I hope that makes sense. No, totally it does. 1348 01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:34,680 Let's go to another scripture question. 1349 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,440 But this these are from these are from June. 1350 01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:40,120 No, we had we have some backup ones here. 1351 01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:48,120 Let's do Louise. I know the old law was done away 1352 01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,360 with the redeeming sacrifice and mercy of Christ. 1353 01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:53,960 Yet when I see in the Old Testament that a person is 1354 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:58,480 killed for picking up sticks on the Sabbath or God denying Moses 1355 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:02,160 Moses entrance. To the promised land because of 1356 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,120 one mistake with the water incident. 1357 01:20:04,480 --> 01:20:07,920 It makes me wonder why there was so much harshness then. 1358 01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:11,440 What about God being the same yesterday, today and forever? 1359 01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:17,520 OK, oh man, well let me first correct a major problem in the 1360 01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,240 question, and it's a major problem #1 the Old Testament was 1361 01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,560 never thrown away. OK, the Old Testament can never 1362 01:20:23,560 --> 01:20:25,960 be thrown away. Matter of fact, it's 1363 01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:31,280 interesting. Jesus in John chapter 1, Jesus 1364 01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:35,320 says John in John chapter 1, he says it's about Jesus, and I'll 1365 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,880 quote it to you in Greek because it's very significant, he says 1366 01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:42,400 in the beginning. Was the Word, and the Word was 1367 01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:44,880 with God and the Word was God and then it. 1368 01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,120 Later on goes to say the word became flesh, which by the way 1369 01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,800 is beautiful Greek. I mean beautiful. 1370 01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,000 When I teach Greek, I love floating in these first 18 1371 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:56,480 verses the word. Became flesh and dwelt among us. 1372 01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,000 And we beheld his glory. This is this is John speaking 1373 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,800 about this personal experience that he has with God. 1374 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,880 Then something else happens. It's a very interesting and and 1375 01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,680 anytime that I can bring it up in original language, I love it 1376 01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:13,160 because of the just the seriousness of the passage. 1377 01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:20,440 OK, it actually tells us this. It tells us the law was given to 1378 01:21:20,440 --> 01:21:24,800 us by Moses. OK, Grace. 1379 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:28,200 Well, let me read it to you the way it actually says it, and 1380 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:30,080 I'll tell you the way that actually should be translated, 1381 01:21:30,160 --> 01:21:34,520 OK. It says for the law was given by 1382 01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:38,440 Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ. 1383 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:41,280 If you translated that from the Greek, the way it would be 1384 01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:47,160 worded was the law was presented by Moses, but grace and truth 1385 01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:50,800 were realized in the law through Jesus Christ. 1386 01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:56,320 So if the idea is that we abolish the law, if that's true, 1387 01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,480 then Jesus himself contradicted himself when Jesus said in the 1388 01:21:59,480 --> 01:22:03,120 Sermon on the Mount in Matthew, I didn't come to abolish the 1389 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:04,880 law. I came to fulfill it every job 1390 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:09,000 until as a matter of fact, the very authority that Jesus has to 1391 01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,960 forgive us of our sins is centered around his perfect 1392 01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:14,800 fulfillment of the law. That's why the law can never be 1393 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:20,520 destroyed. OK, God did. 1394 01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:25,640 God did not become, for lack of a better term, you know, kinder 1395 01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:31,320 in the New Testament, OK, his His Holiness, terms that we 1396 01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,440 always attach to him, His justice, His mercy, His grace, 1397 01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,360 they're presented throughout the entirety of the Bible. 1398 01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:40,280 That's why I mentioned the John passage. 1399 01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,480 OK, the Old Testament law was not discarded. 1400 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:47,520 Christ fulfilled it. And believers are now the 1401 01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,240 beneficiaries of the Mosaic covenant. 1402 01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:51,840 That's why we've been grafted in. 1403 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,000 So the so the picture here is really, really important. 1404 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:59,800 Now Israel, of course, they had a unique covenant and it still 1405 01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,520 has not been wiped out by God. It's still under them, but the 1406 01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:07,080 man look, let, let, let me just deal with the, the, the, the 1407 01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,720 couple of examples that you gave because they're fresh in my mind 1408 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:15,400 because I'm in numbers right now and numbers 15 is I, I'm very 1409 01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:16,600 familiar with it. We haven't talked through it 1410 01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:17,880 yet, but I'm in it and I know it. 1411 01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:23,320 The the man that's gathering sticks was not executed for 1412 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:27,000 innocently picking up firewood. OK, that's not what's happening 1413 01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,480 here. Numbers 15 actually places the 1414 01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:33,800 event directly after the warning about presumptuous sin. 1415 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:40,280 So he knowingly and publicly defied God's Sabbath command. 1416 01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:43,720 It, it, it, it wasn't it, It wasn't like, oh, you just picked 1417 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,880 this up and it was over with. No, God said, don't do it, and 1418 01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,200 there's a reason not to do it. And he did it and he got himself 1419 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:55,720 killed because of it. Moses's action was so much more 1420 01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,000 than some momentary mistake, like people always think that it 1421 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:02,800 was a momentary mistake. He disobeyed God before the 1422 01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:08,280 nation and he acted in, in, in, in in anger, material anger. 1423 01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:12,880 And he misrepresented God by striking the rock when he was 1424 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,720 commanded to speak to as a matter of fact, you've seen 1425 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:17,080 this, Erica, on my pulpit. I have it in gold leaf 1426 01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:18,880 lettering. It says do not strike the rock 1427 01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:20,200 and it shows the numbers passage. 1428 01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:24,760 It's it's, it's for that reason, greater responsibility. 1429 01:24:24,760 --> 01:24:27,000 You have to remember this greater responsibility brings 1430 01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,480 greater accountability. Moses was Israel's leader and 1431 01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:33,280 had received extraordinary revelation. 1432 01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:37,000 He he talked to God darn near face to face. 1433 01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:42,400 Moses lost the privilege of leading Israel into Canaan. 1434 01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:47,600 He did, but he didn't lose his salvation, nor did he lose the 1435 01:24:47,600 --> 01:24:50,680 ability to go to the ultimate promised land, which is far 1436 01:24:50,680 --> 01:24:52,880 better than any physical promised land he would have been 1437 01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,800 to with respect to what we know as Israel proper. 1438 01:24:56,320 --> 01:25:00,200 God later buried him personally. That's what the Bible says. 1439 01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:03,120 And and Moses appeared with Christ on the Mount of 1440 01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:05,480 Transfiguration. So Moses technically did end up 1441 01:25:05,480 --> 01:25:10,840 seeing the promised land. I say all of that because grace 1442 01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,880 is abundant in the Old Testament completely. 1443 01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:18,960 And actually, believe it or not, the most severe judgment that we 1444 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:22,560 know of in the Bible is more in the New Testament than it is in 1445 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,840 the Old. But most people don't think 1446 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:26,680 about it. And a nice sense of fire being 1447 01:25:26,680 --> 01:25:28,720 killed. Herod, look at all the judgments 1448 01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,320 of Revelation. So the clearest demonstration of 1449 01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:38,120 God's character that doesn't change is going to be what 1450 01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,760 happened at the cross. God did not overlook sin to the 1451 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:43,440 point that He actually killed the Son. 1452 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,240 I mean, think about or allowed his son to be killed. 1453 01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:51,680 It's it's judgment fell upon Christ so that his mercy that he 1454 01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:55,200 extends could be given to us so he could have the authority to 1455 01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,320 forgive us of our sins when we put our faith and trust in him. 1456 01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:02,600 The same God is perfectly that same God is perfect. 1457 01:26:03,200 --> 01:26:07,360 He's holy. What What's amazing to me is 1458 01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:09,920 that the grace that you find in the Old Testament is 1459 01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,960 astonishing, and if you didn't have it, you wouldn't have the 1460 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,080 New Testament. The authority of the New 1461 01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,360 Testament is fundamentally predicated on the old, which is 1462 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,040 heavy. So that's what we're seeing 1463 01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:20,840 here. Right. 1464 01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:26,720 Our next question is from Abby. I'm going to hop to even there's 1465 01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,560 this is one of the main questions actually. 1466 01:26:30,600 --> 01:26:33,680 I read an interesting theory about the disciples actually 1467 01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,360 being teenagers. Jesus and Peter were the only 1468 01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:40,200 ones who paid temple tax. 20 and older have to pay and Peter was 1469 01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:43,320 the only one married. Also back then once a young man 1470 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:47,040 turns 13 he must choose between following a rabbi or working, 1471 01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:50,480 meaning some of them could have been as young as 13. 1472 01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,360 Do you believe the teenage disciple theory? 1473 01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:57,720 OK, well, I wouldn't, I wouldn't categorize it as such. 1474 01:26:58,400 --> 01:26:59,520 Let me just start by saying this. 1475 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,000 It's very, very possible that some disciples were actually 1476 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:07,080 young men, OK, perhaps maybe even as as young as their early 1477 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,440 teens. But the claim that most were 1478 01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:14,080 teenagers is is built completely on speculation. 1479 01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:15,480 OK, let's talk about what we do know. 1480 01:27:15,480 --> 01:27:18,880 OK? Matthew 17 records Jesus paying 1481 01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:21,320 the temple tax for himself and Peter. 1482 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,520 But it never says the other disciples were exempt because 1483 01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:28,920 they were under 20. All it says is that Jesus is 1484 01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:31,040 present at the time and he's paying the temple tax with 1485 01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,280 Peter. That, by the way, that's fresh 1486 01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,000 in my mind because we had to deal with this question recently 1487 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,880 The. Conversation happened at Peter's 1488 01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:43,200 house in Haper Nehum that we say at Capernaum we say Haper Nehum. 1489 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,640 This is also fresh in my mind because I just taught it last 1490 01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:50,920 night. Jesus may simply have addressed 1491 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:55,280 the immediate demand concerning himself and Peter that that's, 1492 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,000 that's that's what we're dealing with here. 1493 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,840 The idea that every Jewish boy, by the way, let me say this, I'm 1494 01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:03,280 going to I'm going to dispel a myth. 1495 01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,600 The idea that every Jewish boy at 13 had to choose between 1496 01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:10,680 following a rabbi or entering a trade is a very popular, what I 1497 01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:12,680 would call modern reconstruction. 1498 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,800 But it's not something that's clearly established by the Bible 1499 01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:21,880 and not even a dependable, not even categorized as dependable 1500 01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:23,840 evidence from the 1st century. We don't even have that. 1501 01:28:24,440 --> 01:28:28,120 So Peter is the only disciple whose wife appears directly in 1502 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,960 the gospel accounts, but that certainly does not mean that he 1503 01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,120 was the only married apostle. As a matter of fact, First 1504 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:37,720 Corinthians 9 actually indicates that the other apostles also had 1505 01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,160 wives. As a matter of fact, I think 1506 01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:42,480 it's Eric. They might look it up. 1507 01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:43,880 I think it's First Corinthians 9. 1508 01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:46,520 I think it's like verse four or five where he actually talks 1509 01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:49,240 about this now. And with that said, several 1510 01:28:49,240 --> 01:28:52,600 disciples already worked in established trades. 1511 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,800 James and John actually participated in their father's 1512 01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:58,000 fishing business. They were entrepreneurs. 1513 01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:00,600 Matthew held the position as a tax collector. 1514 01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,440 Let me think about that for a SEC for a second. 1515 01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:07,360 John may have actually very likely been comparatively young, 1516 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,680 especially since he lived into like, you know, the beginning of 1517 01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:14,760 the, the 1st century. But even that doesn't prove that 1518 01:29:14,760 --> 01:29:18,680 he was 13 at the time. So I, I, I personally wouldn't 1519 01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,640 teach the the teenage disciple theory as a fact. 1520 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:23,920 I mean, some, some may have been young. 1521 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,320 We know Mark was definitely a little boy, you know, but he was 1522 01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:29,200 also wasn't named amongst one of the disciples. 1523 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,920 And the gospel of Mark was probably the gospel according to 1524 01:29:32,920 --> 01:29:35,440 Peter. You know, Peter may have 1525 01:29:35,440 --> 01:29:37,640 actually told Mark and that's how Mark actually put it all 1526 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,600 together. So I do think the temple tax 1527 01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,920 argument is interesting, but we just don't have enough 1528 01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,840 information to carry the conclusion that that that that's 1529 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,680 what I would say. So, and it's very likely that 1530 01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:51,880 when we talk about these men being entrepreneurs and working 1531 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:55,640 for their father, and of course the the sons of Zebedee actually 1532 01:29:55,640 --> 01:30:01,800 having influence in Beit Beit Caiaphas, the House of Caiaphas 1533 01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:04,960 tells us they're older men, not older, older, but I mean, old 1534 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:08,760 enough to actually be paying a temple tax, probably mid 20s. 1535 01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:11,080 I don't know. There's a, it's, there's a lot 1536 01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:12,360 of assumption in that. I just don't know. 1537 01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:19,840 I don't know that for for sure. The let me see here, let's do 1538 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:27,680 the. The only reason why I'm looking 1539 01:30:27,680 --> 01:30:30,280 at some of these is because some of them are redundant from ones 1540 01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:31,560 that we've done. Yeah, we've already answered. 1541 01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,560 Let me see, how did Israel and target on the second right? 1542 01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:41,240 OK, here's an interesting one from Patricia. 1543 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:45,040 What is the difference between demon possessed and demons? 1544 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:49,120 Jesus and his apostles saved people that were demon possessed 1545 01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:52,360 and were redeemed. So if one can be saved from 1546 01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:54,880 possession, what about the demons? 1547 01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,360 Are demons the agents of Satan, lurking to destroy and devour 1548 01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:00,520 the weak? And are they therefore 1549 01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:03,960 unredeemable? Are demons different than fallen 1550 01:31:03,960 --> 01:31:06,960 angels? Yeah, yeah, such a great 1551 01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,560 question. Really, really good question. 1552 01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:09,840 Again, thinking persons question. 1553 01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:14,640 OK, a demon possessed person and a demon are completely 1554 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,960 different. OK, a demon possessed person is 1555 01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,800 a human being that is under demonic control or at least 1556 01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:24,240 severe demonic influence. OK, that that person can be 1557 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:27,840 delivered and saved through the finished work of Christ on the 1558 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:31,280 Cross. Now a demon is an evil spirit 1559 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:34,880 that's aligned with Satan. Demons, they recognize Jesus. 1560 01:31:34,880 --> 01:31:37,240 We know that I just read this last night, you know, as I'm 1561 01:31:37,240 --> 01:31:41,400 teaching through Luke, demons recognize Jesus. 1562 01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:44,360 They fear his authority. They, they actually will promote 1563 01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:47,600 false doctrine through actually telling all kinds of true 1564 01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,000 things. And then, you know, sticking in 1565 01:31:49,000 --> 01:31:51,280 something that's evil. They afflict people. 1566 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:55,320 They beyond a shadow of a doubt, they definitely oppose the work 1567 01:31:55,320 --> 01:31:59,200 of God. Jesus didn't redeem the demons 1568 01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:01,320 he confronted. They're not redeemable beings. 1569 01:32:01,440 --> 01:32:03,120 OK, demons are not redeemable beings. 1570 01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:05,720 He commanded them to leave their victims. 1571 01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,600 He commanded them to leave the the bodies that that they were 1572 01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:13,200 possessing. So Christ became a man and died 1573 01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,400 for humanity. Hebrews chapter 2 indicates that 1574 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:21,520 his the the redemptive work, so specific redemptive work was not 1575 01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,800 undertaken for angels. As a matter of fact, Paul in 1576 01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:28,760 Hebrew speaks of the superiority of Christ to the angels and in 1577 01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:31,320 essence gives us every indication that we need to know 1578 01:32:31,320 --> 01:32:35,160 concerning where they stand. Bottom line is there's no plan 1579 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:39,200 of redemption for fallen spirits that's presented anywhere in the 1580 01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,640 Bible and I, and I'm reluctant to use the term fallen spirits. 1581 01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,040 Let's just call them what they are, demons. 1582 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:47,960 OK, so demons who know, well, let me let me back up. 1583 01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:52,080 Demons know who Jesus is, but the intellectual recognition is 1584 01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:54,840 not a saving faith. James actually tells us that I 1585 01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,560 believe it's in James chapter 2. He says the devils also believe 1586 01:32:57,800 --> 01:33:00,040 and they tremble, but that doesn't mean that they're 1587 01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,320 redeemed, nor does it mean they're redeemable. 1588 01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:05,400 So demons are therefore we know this. 1589 01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:07,240 We, we actually do. We can't establish this. 1590 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,520 They're therefore awaiting final judgment, not salvation. 1591 01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:12,640 As a matter of fact, when Jesus has a confrontation with some of 1592 01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:15,920 the demons in the New Testament, they beg him not to throw him to 1593 01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:19,280 the place of holding where they know they'll be eventually to 1594 01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:21,440 find eternal damnation and judgment. 1595 01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:23,560 They know it. So demons are generally 1596 01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:26,480 understood to be fallen angels who actually joined the 1597 01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:28,080 rebellion of Satan that we read about. 1598 01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,600 Now, the Bible does not give a detailed explanation of their 1599 01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,680 origin. We just, we just can't possibly 1600 01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:36,640 know. So we should be careful not to 1601 01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,720 become a dogmatic about every single little detail. 1602 01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:42,560 Now, there's a whole subset of things you can learn within 1603 01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:45,440 angiology, the study of angels and demons for that matter. 1604 01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:50,000 And, and do we know that there are some fallen angels that are 1605 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,440 presently restrained according to what we read about in like 1606 01:33:53,440 --> 01:33:57,600 Jude, Jude 6, Jude verse 6, There's no. 1607 01:33:57,640 --> 01:34:00,480 There's only 1 chapter in Jude and second Peter. 1608 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,800 We we see this. OK, I would create the 1609 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:08,200 distinction very simply by simply saying the possessed 1610 01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:14,400 person is a victim whom Christ can rescue, and the demon is a 1611 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,960 rebellious spirit that is going to eventually be judged. 1612 01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:20,880 That's why hell is so brutal, because hell was designed for 1613 01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:23,880 the devil and his demons. That's heavy. 1614 01:34:23,880 --> 01:34:29,200 Yeah. Let me see here. 1615 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:35,720 Kate's probably wondering where I'm at, where I'm at, because 1616 01:34:35,720 --> 01:34:37,000 I've been floating around all of this. 1617 01:34:38,280 --> 01:34:40,960 Let me see we'll. Just announce the name, she'll 1618 01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:43,320 she'll get it. Yeah, let me go to let me go 1619 01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:45,800 back to some lifestyle ones. OK, so. 1620 01:34:52,400 --> 01:34:56,680 I started okay Jen. I know, I know because you never 1621 01:34:56,680 --> 01:35:01,920 see the questions ahead of time. Okay Jen, she says. 1622 01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,840 I started my faith journey last September and into Halloween. 1623 01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:08,560 I felt really guilty celebrating with my kids as we always 1624 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,520 celebrated in the past. I felt like it was wrong to do 1625 01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:15,240 and as I was in the costume shop I truly felt in my heart we need 1626 01:35:15,240 --> 01:35:18,200 to stop celebrating. My question is how do you not 1627 01:35:18,200 --> 01:35:20,960 conform with society when everyone around you is 1628 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:23,840 celebrating and decorating etcetera especially in school. 1629 01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,960 Also, is it wrong to watch movies and shows with violence, 1630 01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:30,520 drugs and bad language and music with bad language? 1631 01:35:31,680 --> 01:35:33,480 OK. Let me do this. 1632 01:35:33,480 --> 01:35:36,600 I'm going to send something to my wife really quickly because 1633 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,440 she asked me and my wife gets priority. 1634 01:35:38,440 --> 01:35:39,400 I'm so sorry. Let me just. 1635 01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:43,480 OK, she has it all right? Wow. 1636 01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:49,240 All right, I would love for you to download the multiple studies 1637 01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:53,000 that I've done on the subject of Halloween, but let me just 1638 01:35:53,000 --> 01:35:56,560 simply say this when the Lord. Convicts your conscious about 1639 01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:58,800 something. Don't violate that conviction 1640 01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:01,240 merely because everybody else is participating. 1641 01:36:02,960 --> 01:36:07,760 The Bible doesn't command Christians to celebrate, to 1642 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:11,720 celebrate Halloween. And much of the imagery that we 1643 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:14,600 see in Halloween glorify some pretty evil things, right? 1644 01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:17,040 Darkness, fear, death, witchcraft, the occult, all that 1645 01:36:17,040 --> 01:36:18,160 stuff. That stuff is very, very real. 1646 01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:23,200 You don't need to condemn every family that handles that day 1647 01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:27,920 differently, but you should obey what what I have to. 1648 01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:31,000 I have to tread lightly here. You should, you should obey what 1649 01:36:31,000 --> 01:36:38,560 you believe God is showing your family the the decision. 1650 01:36:38,960 --> 01:36:43,800 The decision with your children is important because you're the 1651 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:45,680 person that got appointed to raise your children. 1652 01:36:46,600 --> 01:36:49,200 We belong to Jesus. We don't celebrate things that 1653 01:36:49,200 --> 01:36:54,560 glorify darkness. I, I'll tell you what I do, OK? 1654 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,800 I give my children a wholesome alternative. 1655 01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:00,680 We do outreach that we do every year at the church where we 1656 01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:04,720 don't, we won't give the the devil a single day, right? 1657 01:37:04,720 --> 01:37:07,440 The Bible says that we're not to be conformed to this world. 1658 01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:08,680 So you know what? We're going to take this 1659 01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,920 opportunity matter of fact, this year we're actually doing a, a 1660 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:14,320 trunk or treat like a lot of people do. 1661 01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:17,240 But we're giving guidelines to all of our people about what a 1662 01:37:17,240 --> 01:37:19,840 trunk or treat actually looks like and what they should be 1663 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:21,200 thinking about and what they should be doing. 1664 01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:23,720 And we're going to have a bunch of cars that gather up in our in 1665 01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,400 our parking lot where we would normally do the big carnival and 1666 01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,200 all that stuff. And they're going to host their 1667 01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,120 own games and they're going to create their own evangelism 1668 01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:38,880 methods. So look, so when it comes to the 1669 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:42,400 subject of entertainment, especially on a night like this, 1670 01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:46,240 look, the question is not simply whether sin, you know, appears 1671 01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:48,880 in a story. The Bible itself records all 1672 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:51,920 kinds of violence. It it records immorality, you 1673 01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,720 know, things that reflect human weakness. 1674 01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:59,000 We, we know that it's all there, but it never presents what it 1675 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:02,440 records as evil, as being something that's desirable. 1676 01:38:02,440 --> 01:38:07,400 So just ask, does this glorify sin or does it expose it? 1677 01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:12,400 You know, is is feeding, is this feeding these characteristics of 1678 01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:15,360 lust and you know, anger and fear and profanity. 1679 01:38:16,200 --> 01:38:19,200 This like insane fascination with darkness. 1680 01:38:19,480 --> 01:38:22,360 I ask those questions anytime I allow my kids to participate in 1681 01:38:22,360 --> 01:38:25,240 anything. And and this is a big one, 1682 01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,120 right? Is it weakening my sensitivity 1683 01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:30,320 to what offends God? You know, can can, can I watch 1684 01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,440 or hear this with a clear conscience before Christ? 1685 01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:37,240 Would I be comfortable with my children imitating what this 1686 01:38:37,240 --> 01:38:39,200 actually normalizes? That's a that's a question I 1687 01:38:39,200 --> 01:38:41,760 often times ask. I think Philippians 48, which I 1688 01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:43,720 quoted before, is a really good standard. 1689 01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:44,880 Now, let me just simply say this. 1690 01:38:45,400 --> 01:38:48,800 Wearing a costume on Halloween is not a sinful thing, OK? 1691 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:53,240 It just depends what that it, it really depends on what you, how 1692 01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:55,600 you characterize it. You know, I wouldn't be putting 1693 01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:57,800 on costumes of gory people or anything like that. 1694 01:38:58,160 --> 01:39:02,200 Put on costumes of things that might be used to glorify Christ. 1695 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:04,800 There's all kinds of great alternatives that are out there 1696 01:39:04,800 --> 01:39:07,040 that you can do where you don't have to give yourself to the 1697 01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:09,640 practice. And I would personally recommend 1698 01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:11,960 that you download many, the many studies that I've done on 1699 01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,160 Halloween that will give you some real perspective where I 1700 01:39:14,160 --> 01:39:19,200 dig very, very deep and answer these questions outside of the, 1701 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:21,800 the sort of the simple, I'm not going to call it a shallow 1702 01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,800 response that I gave, but the, but the, the precursory response 1703 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:29,160 that I gave. Let's see here, Margarita. 1704 01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:33,200 My husband is an alcoholic. We have been married for 10 1705 01:39:33,200 --> 01:39:36,000 years, have a six year old daughter and been together since 1706 01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:39,040 I was 22 years old. Alcoholism got much worse when 1707 01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,440 our child was 3. He cheated and then drank his 1708 01:39:42,440 --> 01:39:44,120 guilt away. We tried to get through the 1709 01:39:44,120 --> 01:39:46,000 affair but the drinking is still an issue. 1710 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:48,960 I brought it up again and finally he told me it may get 1711 01:39:48,960 --> 01:39:50,880 better, it may not take it or leave it. 1712 01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:52,840 What should I do? I know it's hard with those 1713 01:39:52,840 --> 01:39:56,320 questions because context is everything and so sometimes. 1714 01:39:56,320 --> 01:40:00,600 The problem, yeah, the the the problem is all of these have to 1715 01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,600 be nuanced. And I would, I would beg you to 1716 01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:06,600 go speak to a pastor that can actually get into all of these 1717 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:08,200 details. But let me just simply say this 1718 01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,480 based on what you're telling me, OK? 1719 01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:13,040 Based on what you're telling me, take it or leave. 1720 01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:18,440 It's not repentance. OK, he, he's telling you that he 1721 01:40:18,440 --> 01:40:21,440 presently intends to protect his addiction more than he wants to 1722 01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:26,720 protect his family. Look, his addiction to alcohol 1723 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,400 is going to explain some behavior, but it does not excuse 1724 01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,800 things like adultery or deception or neglect or 1725 01:40:34,240 --> 01:40:35,880 endangering you or your daughter. 1726 01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:39,640 That's insane. I don't want to get too 1727 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:41,240 emotional about it, but but let me just. 1728 01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:43,080 Simply say this. You're not going to be able to 1729 01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:46,080 force him to change, and shielding him from consequences 1730 01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,280 may actually help him continue to drink. 1731 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,040 So bring this into the light with your pastor or somebody 1732 01:40:53,040 --> 01:40:56,240 that's mature in church leadership that can help you be 1733 01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,840 able to do this or even a family member that you trust. 1734 01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,080 Whatever you do, don't carry it privately because this is how 1735 01:41:02,080 --> 01:41:03,840 abuse works. There's a lot of women in 1736 01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,960 marriages right now. They're being abused by people 1737 01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:10,640 like that and then they allow their abuse or they allow these 1738 01:41:11,880 --> 01:41:16,680 these non nuanced discussions in Christian circles to get them to 1739 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,800 think that abuse is OK and acceptable. 1740 01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,400 It's not. That's why God creates the 1741 01:41:21,400 --> 01:41:27,800 mechanism of separation to create a, a, a, a conduit, and 1742 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,280 in some cases an accelerator for redemption. 1743 01:41:32,320 --> 01:41:34,320 You have to establish firm conditions. 1744 01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,240 You have to require professional treatment. 1745 01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,480 You have to require complete honesty and accountability and 1746 01:41:40,480 --> 01:41:43,840 sobriety. There has to be sustained 1747 01:41:43,840 --> 01:41:45,840 evidence of change. OK. 1748 01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:50,160 If you, if you make, if he makes promises and there's no actions, 1749 01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,840 that's not repentance. If he's drinking, please listen 1750 01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:56,400 to me when I say this. And again, I don't know all the 1751 01:41:56,400 --> 01:42:01,000 facts, but if his drinking creates danger and you and your 1752 01:42:01,000 --> 01:42:05,080 daughter are there, you should separate from the situation 1753 01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:07,320 immediately. Don't. 1754 01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:11,200 If it's creating danger for you, never allow him to drive. 1755 01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:16,160 Get in a car and drive her or supervise her while she's 1756 01:42:16,160 --> 01:42:18,200 intoxicated. It's dangerous. 1757 01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:21,320 I have a rule. Me and my wife talk about this 1758 01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:23,560 when we're at the playground or something with the kids. 1759 01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:25,920 You put your phone in your pocket. 1760 01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:28,480 Why? Because the phone will do the 1761 01:42:28,480 --> 01:42:30,400 same thing as a drink of alcohol will do. 1762 01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:33,560 It will get you so distracted your kids could get snatched up 1763 01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:37,800 in seconds. So if if he becomes threatening 1764 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:43,080 or violent, you call 911 and then you get to a safe place. 1765 01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:46,680 Safety is not a failure of submission. 1766 01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:49,920 And it's not forget it's it's not a failure to forgive. 1767 01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:55,200 OK, God wants you to be safe. Now I will say this because 1768 01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:59,120 adultery has has occurred. Jesus does identify sexual 1769 01:42:59,120 --> 01:43:01,160 immorality as a legitimate grounds for divorce. 1770 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:02,920 And I'm not saying I want you to divorce. 1771 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:09,520 I'm saying that it means that you are, you are not biblically 1772 01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:11,520 required to pretend his betrayal never happened. 1773 01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:12,920 Let me just say, let me just say it that way. 1774 01:43:13,480 --> 01:43:17,560 Forgiveness doesn't even mean that you, you're allowed to or 1775 01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,040 you're supposed to instantly restore some kind of trust. 1776 01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:23,880 If reconciliation is going to happen, it requires repentance 1777 01:43:23,920 --> 01:43:28,160 and accountability, and it has to have restored trust, which 1778 01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,360 means demonstrated faithfulness over time. 1779 01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:36,760 You don't need to decide what you're going to do today. 1780 01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:39,400 I'm telling you that. But your next step is to do the 1781 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:40,920 immediate things. You've got to You got to 1782 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:42,400 immediately protect your daughter. 1783 01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:46,040 You have to involve trustworthy leadership, and you have to stop 1784 01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:51,560 treating his refusal to change as something you must quietly 1785 01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:52,800 accept. You can't do that. 1786 01:43:52,920 --> 01:43:55,160 His addiction is his responsibility. 1787 01:43:55,680 --> 01:43:58,560 That's something on him. Your responsibility is to act 1788 01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:01,720 truthfully, to to walk wisely and safely. 1789 01:44:01,920 --> 01:44:04,720 And already he's failing to be the covering that God has 1790 01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:08,040 actually called you to be, called him to be. 1791 01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:09,640 And that in and of itself is a problem. 1792 01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:14,400 It's a form of abandonment. So again, I'm not, I don't know 1793 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:17,400 all the details, so I don't want to tell you exactly what to do, 1794 01:44:18,120 --> 01:44:20,600 not knowing the whole story. But I think that's sufficient 1795 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,000 enough to just be able to say there's no excuse for abuse and 1796 01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,640 there's no excuse for creating a toxic environment like that. 1797 01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:29,240 It's never going to be OK for that to happen. 1798 01:44:29,720 --> 01:44:31,520 Right. It's never, never. 1799 01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:35,440 I agree. Our final let's do these do 1800 01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:37,920 these two questions are very similar and those will be our 1801 01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:42,200 final one that we end up Amber and Sarah Amber. 1802 01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,880 Amber first asks when you can feel your teenager pulling away 1803 01:44:45,880 --> 01:44:48,480 from God, what are some things a mother can do? 1804 01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:52,720 And Sarah says my son is 19 and lives with me. 1805 01:44:52,720 --> 01:44:55,760 He once followed Jesus but has drifted away and is consumed by 1806 01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,760 video games, social media and the world. 1807 01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:01,840 He has no desire for school or purpose is often disrespectful 1808 01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:04,160 and entitled. How do I love him without 1809 01:45:04,160 --> 01:45:06,400 enabling him and point him back to Christ? 1810 01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,840 Beyond praying, what can I do as his mom to help him desire 1811 01:45:09,920 --> 01:45:13,320 Jesus, grow in faith, and become the man God created him to be? 1812 01:45:14,600 --> 01:45:16,800 Oh, my goodness. I know. 1813 01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,320 OK, well, there's so much that's there. 1814 01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:22,200 And I'm just going to treat this as though both people are asking 1815 01:45:22,480 --> 01:45:24,440 the same question because it really isn't technically the 1816 01:45:24,440 --> 01:45:26,400 same question. Yeah, and it's we're, we're 1817 01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:30,600 talking about the same problems. It's this man, I think what 1818 01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:33,480 we've often times called the Lost Boys generation, you know, 1819 01:45:33,480 --> 01:45:42,840 the hiding hiding in in their even this recent ridiculous 1820 01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:47,680 burrito debate like. Why? 1821 01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:51,520 Why? Aren't people saying that when 1822 01:45:51,520 --> 01:45:56,520 my parents were my, when my parents were teenagers, they 1823 01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:57,960 weren't going out and buying burritos. 1824 01:46:00,240 --> 01:46:03,240 They had cans of beans and I'm going to, I just have to leave 1825 01:46:03,240 --> 01:46:05,280 that alone. I, I, I, there's so many 1826 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,600 biblical issues to address here that are important, But let's 1827 01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:10,640 talk about you being a mom. Let's talk about the two of you 1828 01:46:10,640 --> 01:46:13,360 ministering to your children because God bless you, ladies. 1829 01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:16,680 You, you have. I'm praying the rapture happens 1830 01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:18,840 before my kids become teenagers. That's all I'm saying. 1831 01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:21,320 I think, I think me and Erica can agree on that. 1832 01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:25,120 I don't know. Look, you can't manufacture a 1833 01:46:25,120 --> 01:46:27,520 desire for Jesus and your sons. You just can't. 1834 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:31,880 But what you can do is create an environment where rebellion is 1835 01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:34,640 difficult, OK? Where it's not financed. 1836 01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:38,400 Where where disrespect is not going to be tolerated and truth 1837 01:46:38,520 --> 01:46:40,800 remains clearly visible. If a kid. 1838 01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,840 Doesn't have. Let me just start with the with 1839 01:46:44,840 --> 01:46:46,120 with with. The more the more important 1840 01:46:46,120 --> 01:46:47,200 things. First and foremost, keep the 1841 01:46:47,200 --> 01:46:48,360 relationship open. OK? 1842 01:46:49,320 --> 01:46:53,400 Ask questions and listen before turning every conversation into 1843 01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:55,960 a sermon. Greatest example that I see of 1844 01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,160 this. In our modern day is CC did this 1845 01:46:58,160 --> 01:47:00,200 well. He asked lots of questions, he 1846 01:47:00,200 --> 01:47:02,240 put the microphone down and he listened. 1847 01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:08,880 OK, let Kim see. A genuine walk with Christ in 1848 01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:15,960 you, not some like condition by which he's hearing repeated 1849 01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:19,000 correction from you. OK, now here's where it gets 1850 01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,920 interesting. Don't allow fear of pushing him 1851 01:47:21,920 --> 01:47:25,040 away to prevent necessary boundaries from being created. 1852 01:47:25,880 --> 01:47:33,000 At 19, at 19, living at home is a privilege. 1853 01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:35,720 It's. Not an entitlement. 1854 01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:41,040 OK, establish. Look, I did not leave my home 1855 01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:46,640 until I married my wife at 39, OK, I lived with my father in my 1856 01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:50,040 father's house at that time. But by the time I was, I was 39, 1857 01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:55,520 I had flipped real estate. I already started my own 1858 01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,280 business and was successfully running it. 1859 01:47:57,560 --> 01:48:02,800 I I like there was there was a lot going on there. 1860 01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:06,120 We do that because of cultural. We don't leave our house until 1861 01:48:06,120 --> 01:48:07,760 we get married. It's just just the way it works 1862 01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:09,400 in our culture. It's a Middle Eastern culture 1863 01:48:09,400 --> 01:48:10,880 thing. Very patriarchal. 1864 01:48:11,120 --> 01:48:13,240 Patriarchal in nature. OK. 1865 01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,120 Living at home is a privilege. It's not an entitlement. 1866 01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:20,960 You have to establish clear expectations for respect for 1867 01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,120 employment or education for that matter. 1868 01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:24,120 College is a. Scam. 1869 01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:25,360 I should say that right off the bat. 1870 01:48:27,320 --> 01:48:32,400 Household responsibilities, financial contributions and 1871 01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:37,800 conduct appropriate. Do not pay for unlimited gaming 1872 01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:41,360 or devices or entertainment or other comforts that are helping 1873 01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:45,160 him remain stagnant. State the expectations and the 1874 01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:48,280 consequences very calmly. You have to be clear about it. 1875 01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:52,200 And in some cases you may have to do it in writing so that he 1876 01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:55,720 understands in clarity, with clarity, how serious this is. 1877 01:48:55,960 --> 01:48:59,400 Now, here's the caveat. You have to follow through with 1878 01:48:59,400 --> 01:49:03,680 it consistently, OK? You have to do what you can to 1879 01:49:03,680 --> 01:49:08,880 connect him with godly men who can speak into his life, OK, at 1880 01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,960 this age, there's all kinds of people that could potentially do 1881 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:17,560 it, a pastor or a mentor or an employer or some kind of like a 1882 01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:20,480 man, a Christian man who's mature that can reach him 1883 01:49:20,480 --> 01:49:22,080 differently than his mother can. Why? 1884 01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:26,120 Because it's a different voice. So, and it could be a number of 1885 01:49:26,120 --> 01:49:33,920 people also invite him to church in a meaningful invited to 1886 01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,320 church in a meaningful way, right? 1887 01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:39,880 Don't don't say, oh, you're coming with me, you know, say 1888 01:49:39,880 --> 01:49:41,880 hey, listen, this really means a lot to me. 1889 01:49:41,880 --> 01:49:44,000 I'd like you to come with me. Can we go together and we'll go 1890 01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:46,040 to we'll go to breakfast afterwards, OK. 1891 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:50,280 And then this might be hard, but when you see genuine 1892 01:49:50,280 --> 01:49:53,640 responsibility, praise it. You should praise it. 1893 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:56,360 OK. I'm, I'm not, I'm not asking you 1894 01:49:56,360 --> 01:50:00,880 to make every interaction about everything that he's doing to 1895 01:50:00,880 --> 01:50:02,720 just oh, great, you picked up a pencil. 1896 01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:04,200 Wonderful son. I'm not saying that. 1897 01:50:04,640 --> 01:50:07,800 I'm saying give him meaningful praise when he does meaningful 1898 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:09,880 things. And the whole idea is to keep 1899 01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:11,320 you from correcting him at every moment. 1900 01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,960 OK, Now there is another caveat to this. 1901 01:50:14,240 --> 01:50:16,600 If depression is a part of this, if there's some kind of 1902 01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:22,320 addiction or another serious condition, pursue a professional 1903 01:50:22,320 --> 01:50:25,160 evaluation. You need to get somebody in that 1904 01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:28,680 can see it and understand it and know even if it means that 1905 01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:30,960 you're sitting with somebody face to face without him being 1906 01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:33,600 there. Because everything that I'm 1907 01:50:34,080 --> 01:50:36,960 talking about is just assuming some of the general principles 1908 01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,840 that this generation is seeing a lot of simple laziness and some 1909 01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,680 of these other things. Now I will say this, loving him 1910 01:50:42,680 --> 01:50:46,520 does not mean making rebellion comfortable, OK? 1911 01:50:46,760 --> 01:50:50,960 Grace will always tell the truth and allow consequences that that 1912 01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:54,600 is that is the love of God. Your responsibility is to pray, 1913 01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:58,160 of course, to be an example of Christ, to speak truth and 1914 01:50:58,160 --> 01:51:03,320 establish a healthy home. His response is going to be to 1915 01:51:03,520 --> 01:51:06,120 Jesus. He, he has to, he has to, he has 1916 01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:08,160 to be able to, to have a real and genuine faith. 1917 01:51:08,160 --> 01:51:11,000 Now to parents of younger children, can I just give you a, 1918 01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:15,120 just a little bit of a, of a guideline here that will help 1919 01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:21,240 you when you get to this point. OK, When your children are age 0 1920 01:51:21,240 --> 01:51:25,720 to 5, you're the dictator. When they ask you why, you say 1921 01:51:25,720 --> 01:51:28,840 because I said so, and there's no room for them to say no. 1922 01:51:29,280 --> 01:51:31,400 When you tell them to do something, don't tell them five 1923 01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:34,160 times. Walk up to them and physically 1924 01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:35,880 move them to do what they need to do. 1925 01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:41,160 By the time they get to around 5 all the way into around age 8 or 1926 01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:45,560 so, you answer the questions. When they say why, you answer 1927 01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:47,960 it. So long as they don't use why as 1928 01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:53,280 a thing that is a a tool to not do what they ask you to do. 1929 01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:56,800 My daughter asks me, my 8 year old asks me why all the time. 1930 01:51:56,800 --> 01:52:00,320 My 8 year old and my 5 year old. But they do what I asked them to 1931 01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:02,200 do first. Then they'll come to me and say 1932 01:52:02,200 --> 01:52:03,720 why. And when they do that I'm giving 1933 01:52:03,720 --> 01:52:06,000 her the whole world. Well honey This is why this 1934 01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:07,240 happened that happened blah blah blah. 1935 01:52:07,240 --> 01:52:11,600 And I just go and my 8 year old can talk my head off because 1936 01:52:11,600 --> 01:52:14,720 she's incredibly intelligent. So I answered the question. 1937 01:52:15,120 --> 01:52:20,840 By the time they get to around 8 years old, now they have the law 1938 01:52:20,840 --> 01:52:23,040 of the land. They know the whys. 1939 01:52:23,280 --> 01:52:28,440 Now you put them to work. They have things that they do 1940 01:52:28,440 --> 01:52:31,440 that they're supposed to do. Responsibilities they put. 1941 01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:35,480 You're teaching them to put into application the principles that 1942 01:52:35,480 --> 01:52:38,680 they've learned. My oldest daughter, I'm already 1943 01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:39,960 teaching her how to trade in the market. 1944 01:52:40,240 --> 01:52:44,040 I'm already walking through stochastics and oscillators and 1945 01:52:44,240 --> 01:52:48,880 like, there's things I'm giving her because now she's beyond the 1946 01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:52,240 asking why, and she's now beginning to, to, to, to reach 1947 01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:56,600 the intersection of the letter of the law and the spirit of the 1948 01:52:56,600 --> 01:53:00,600 law and the application of that. When you get to a teenager, 1949 01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:04,040 you're past that point. So what you have to do is you 1950 01:53:04,040 --> 01:53:08,960 have to ask God to creatively give you the ability to backstop 1951 01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:12,680 that, if that makes any kind of sense, to help with the whys and 1952 01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:15,800 the spirit of the law while deeply enforcing the letter. 1953 01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:21,200 And in doing that, with a lot of prayer, it it, it can change a 1954 01:53:21,200 --> 01:53:22,400 lot of things. Amen. 1955 01:53:23,600 --> 01:53:27,960 OK, we hit our mark. It's 4:00. 1956 01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:32,640 Oh my goodness, time goes by fast. 1957 01:53:32,640 --> 01:53:34,400 I did not realize it was. It was. 1958 01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:38,120 Two hours I. Mean it's already end of August. 1959 01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:42,600 I mean, Erica, it's another birthday, another birthday of 1960 01:53:42,600 --> 01:53:47,840 another baby. I I'm I'm like, I'm blown away. 1961 01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:48,240 I. Know. 1962 01:53:49,520 --> 01:53:52,000 I've, I've been, I've been just thinking about this. 1963 01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:56,400 My kids are, are growing older. Our our children are growing 1964 01:53:56,400 --> 01:53:59,360 older. I know it's just wild. 1965 01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:02,000 Yep. And it then it makes me think 1966 01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:04,720 too about like when I was younger, you know, you're 1967 01:54:04,720 --> 01:54:07,400 growing up personally, like you're growing up and then you 1968 01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:10,960 forget that as you're growing up and you're growing older, your 1969 01:54:10,960 --> 01:54:12,720 parents are also growing older too. 1970 01:54:12,720 --> 01:54:16,680 It's just this weird. Weird realization of like, as 1971 01:54:16,680 --> 01:54:19,800 you're growing older personally, your parents are growing older 1972 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,000 and your children are growing older and everyone's growing 1973 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:24,800 older and it's like before we blink and everyone's. 1974 01:54:25,120 --> 01:54:27,960 It's 10 years, you know, it's just, it's wild. 1975 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:31,800 It's wild. It's it's the conundrum, you 1976 01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:35,720 know, I mean, it's just, it's interesting to think about like 1977 01:54:36,160 --> 01:54:39,280 where we are in this time and in this day and what you've gone 1978 01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:42,520 through. And I not that I want to revisit 1979 01:54:42,520 --> 01:54:47,080 any of that, but I'm just, and I pray for you every day because 1980 01:54:47,080 --> 01:54:53,360 I, I know, I, I can't even imagine, you know, my kids, I 1981 01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:57,360 told my kids, I told my kids that I was, I was going to leave 1982 01:54:57,360 --> 01:55:01,760 town for a few days next week. They know that I'm getting on 1983 01:55:01,760 --> 01:55:05,120 the plane, leave town for a few days and they lose their minds. 1984 01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:08,200 No. Blah blah, No, no, no, no, no, 1985 01:55:08,200 --> 01:55:11,320 no, no. IA funny story, I snuck out of 1986 01:55:11,320 --> 01:55:14,640 bed early, early, early yesterday because I had to take 1987 01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:19,680 some conference calls and my son snuck into bed and I went out 1988 01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:20,880 and I did these conference calls. 1989 01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:24,520 And you have to imagine this three-year old comes out all he 1990 01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:26,440 is is wearing his diapers, right? 1991 01:55:26,440 --> 01:55:27,760 He's not he's not even wearing this. 1992 01:55:27,960 --> 01:55:31,040 He's not even, he's about to shed the diapers, but he's got 1993 01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:33,440 his diapers on because he just got out of bed and he's got his 1994 01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:36,600 hands on his side with the shirt off and he says. 1995 01:55:37,040 --> 01:55:41,640 You were supposed to sleep with me, Baba, right at the door. 1996 01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:44,680 You know, it's like the cutest. I'll send you the video. 1997 01:55:44,680 --> 01:55:47,960 I have it on video. You'll just, it's so hilarious. 1998 01:55:48,360 --> 01:55:53,120 But then I just look at that and I think, man, that the time goes 1999 01:55:53,120 --> 01:55:58,760 by. So fast I know, but I think. 2000 01:55:58,760 --> 01:56:02,800 About how much my children want me to be around. 2001 01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:06,680 And then I, I just can't help but to think about what you face 2002 01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,880 every day with them. And you know, we're praying for 2003 01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:09,120 you. Thank. 2004 01:56:09,720 --> 01:56:11,440 You. There's nothing about it is. 2005 01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,720 I keep them. Yeah. 2006 01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,760 It's just it's all surreal. It's you're. 2007 01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:21,040 Doing a great job with them. Thank you. 2008 01:56:21,040 --> 01:56:23,960 I love them so much. I see so much in Charlie of them 2009 01:56:23,960 --> 01:56:27,960 and Charlie in them. It's just really, really sweet. 2010 01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:33,280 But yeah, one day at a time. Yeah, yeah. 2011 01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:38,040 God's faithful, He's good. And I think oftentimes one of 2012 01:56:38,040 --> 01:56:39,840 the best parts of God's faithfulness of goodness. 2013 01:56:39,840 --> 01:56:41,960 And I was thinking about it because my daughter, my 3 year 2014 01:56:41,960 --> 01:56:44,280 old, was asking me about my mom, who she never met. 2015 01:56:45,160 --> 01:56:47,920 And, and I just started crying like a baby while I'm on the 2016 01:56:47,920 --> 01:56:49,080 road. You know, I'm thinking about it. 2017 01:56:49,080 --> 01:56:51,200 But then you stop for a moment and you recognize that the 2018 01:56:51,200 --> 01:56:55,640 goodness of God, the, the greatness of God centers around 2019 01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,800 the fact that because of the provision he made, we're going 2020 01:56:57,800 --> 01:57:02,320 to be reunited with all of them. You know, and that's the, that's 2021 01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:05,280 the peace that we have. You know, we have that peace. 2022 01:57:05,280 --> 01:57:07,640 We, we, we can find joy in knowing we're going to be 2023 01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:12,000 reunited with my mom, my dad, my grandfather's, my grandmother's, 2024 01:57:12,440 --> 01:57:15,600 Charlie, you know, everybody. It's, it's going to be a great 2025 01:57:15,600 --> 01:57:19,240 reunion. Yeah, last I was a few nights 2026 01:57:19,240 --> 01:57:26,760 ago, Gigi and I were laying in bed and she was like, his 2027 01:57:26,760 --> 01:57:29,720 daddy's still running errands with Jesus. 2028 01:57:30,720 --> 01:57:35,360 And I was like, yeah, baby. And she was like, is he in 2029 01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:37,600 heaven? I was like, of course Daddy's in 2030 01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:39,600 heaven. And she goes, well, I want to go 2031 01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:41,960 to heaven right now. And I was like, I understand, 2032 01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:43,040 baby. I was like, I know. 2033 01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:47,880 And then she's I have just been waiting for this question. 2034 01:57:47,880 --> 01:57:51,160 And I you try to brace yourself for you just can never. 2035 01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:53,720 And she said, well, how did daddy get to heaven? 2036 01:57:55,360 --> 01:58:01,960 And I just, I just, I didn't know what to say. 2037 01:58:02,080 --> 01:58:08,440 I just said he prayed, he prayed and he prayed and he asked for 2038 01:58:08,600 --> 01:58:09,960 Jesus to be. And it's hard. 2039 01:58:11,640 --> 01:58:15,960 And she looked at me and she was so determined. 2040 01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:18,120 She's like, well, I'm going to pray and I'm going to pray and 2041 01:58:18,120 --> 01:58:19,800 I'm going to pray. And then I'm going to get to go 2042 01:58:19,800 --> 01:58:21,280 to heaven too. And I was like, that's right, 2043 01:58:21,280 --> 01:58:25,400 baby. Yeah, that's yeah. 2044 01:58:27,160 --> 01:58:29,920 Yeah, it's hard. These past few weeks have just 2045 01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:34,000 been brutal and it's only going to get harder in the next few, 2046 01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:40,040 but God is so good. Yeah, my, my daughter explained. 2047 01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:45,600 Yeah, my daughter asked me today actually what court was, you 2048 01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:47,200 know, because I was telling my wife, you know, I'm going to be 2049 01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:48,600 at court. I'm going to be in court next 2050 01:58:48,600 --> 01:58:49,600 week. Yeah. 2051 01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,560 What is court next week? Yeah. 2052 01:58:51,720 --> 01:58:54,560 And and she's what is court? What, what what is that? 2053 01:58:54,720 --> 01:58:56,920 And you know, how do you explain that? 2054 01:58:57,720 --> 01:58:59,360 How do you explain that to a 5 year old? 2055 01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:02,600 You know it's. That the evils of this world 2056 01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:05,000 have to. Yeah, yeah. 2057 01:59:06,520 --> 01:59:09,440 That's that's exactly right. But, you know, the good news is 2058 01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:11,880 we have a legacy that we get to leave for these children. 2059 01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:14,360 Amen. Charlie, by the grace of God, 2060 01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:19,560 was able to leave this amazing encapsulation of who he was. 2061 01:59:19,560 --> 01:59:22,400 No one will ever forget him. The children will never forget 2062 01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:23,880 him. You're going to always have a 2063 01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:26,480 public record, you know, to to think that they're going to 2064 01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,840 they're going to get older and realize that he was a national 2065 01:59:28,840 --> 01:59:31,240 treasure, still is a national treasure by virtue of the 2066 01:59:31,240 --> 01:59:34,200 changes that he brought on, that a lot of people are having a 2067 01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:36,240 better life because of what Charlie did. 2068 01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:40,040 You know, there's farmers out there that, you know, are 2069 01:59:40,040 --> 01:59:42,280 experiencing the benefit of what Charlie did. 2070 01:59:42,280 --> 01:59:46,720 There's ranchers, there's, you know, policemen and firemen and 2071 01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,040 military. I mean it like the whole country 2072 01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:53,240 because of what he helped happen with the president. 2073 01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:55,520 You know, Donald Trump is president and it's changed a lot 2074 01:59:55,520 --> 01:59:57,920 of people's lives so much so for the better. 2075 01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,440 And and Charlie gets credit for that. 2076 02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,520 God did that work through Charlie and lies have been 2077 02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:07,080 changing and and look at what turning point is right now. 2078 02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:08,320 Look at look at where it's going. 2079 02:00:08,520 --> 02:00:13,040 I mean, there's so much that you can say about how God will take 2080 02:00:13,040 --> 02:00:15,960 what was meant for evil and he'll use it and turn it for 2081 02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,160 good. And we get to rejoice and and it 2082 02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:21,040 comes down to to live as Christ. And then what? 2083 02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:24,880 To die is gain, Amen. And and so we get to live, and 2084 02:00:24,880 --> 02:00:28,000 that living is Christ. And then when that time comes, 2085 02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:31,560 we get to experience the the ultimate gain, right? 2086 02:00:31,560 --> 02:00:34,880 The gain of what all? What all we've been. 2087 02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:37,640 Rewarded because of our faith and trust in Christ, because of 2088 02:00:37,640 --> 02:00:39,880 what He's done for us. And that is spectacular. 2089 02:00:40,200 --> 02:00:41,960 Amen. That's beautiful. 2090 02:00:44,040 --> 02:00:49,640 Well, I'll see you on Tuesday. Yeah, I love you and let's pray. 2091 02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:51,640 God asked the Lord to go before us. 2092 02:00:51,640 --> 02:00:53,320 Father, we just thank you, Lord, for this time. 2093 02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:57,800 And we pray God that in the name of Jesus, you would continue to 2094 02:00:57,800 --> 02:01:03,040 restore justice in ways that we can't even imagine, Lord, 2095 02:01:03,040 --> 02:01:08,040 especially in the situation. Lord, we continue to ask for 2096 02:01:08,040 --> 02:01:10,160 your comfort and your peace and your strength. 2097 02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:12,400 Lord, we pray God for Erica and the children. 2098 02:01:13,400 --> 02:01:17,080 We pray God for Rob and Kathy and and so many Lord, that have 2099 02:01:17,080 --> 02:01:19,320 been just affected by all of this. 2100 02:01:19,320 --> 02:01:23,000 Lord, we know that we can find peace in you. 2101 02:01:23,120 --> 02:01:25,720 We know that we can find strength in you because you're 2102 02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,200 good and you're faithful. You're the God of heaven. 2103 02:01:28,200 --> 02:01:31,520 Lord, you love us. And so Lord, for all that has 2104 02:01:31,520 --> 02:01:34,880 been with us participating, Lord, in this Q and AI pray that 2105 02:01:34,880 --> 02:01:37,200 you would encourage them, build them up, strengthen them. 2106 02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:39,040 Lord, fill them with your spirit. 2107 02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:41,360 Lord, bless them in every way, spiritually, emotionally, 2108 02:01:41,360 --> 02:01:42,920 mentally, physically, financially. 2109 02:01:42,920 --> 02:01:45,880 Lord, watch over them. Lord, protect them. 2110 02:01:45,880 --> 02:01:48,640 We love you, God, and thank you. We look to you, we ask these 2111 02:01:48,640 --> 02:01:50,720 things in Jesus name, we pray. Amen. 2112 02:01:51,200 --> 02:01:52,240 Amen. All right. 2113 02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:55,280 God bless you guys, we will see you in September.