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Well, hello everybody. 
We're going to have a good time 

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today. 
I'm telling you, we are it is it

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is going to be a blast. 
Erika got caught up in a 

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meeting. 
She's going to come join us 

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shortly. 
But I am blessed because I am 

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with the lovely, beautiful Kate,
who by the way, is you are 

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absolutely beautiful on the 
outside, but you are strikingly 

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beautiful on the inside. 
You are a dear friend. 

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And so I'm going to, I'm going 
to enjoy this. 

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I enjoy the Q&A days with Erika 
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short period of time that I have
you, this is going to be fun. 

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This isn't like a bummer. 
We got a sub. 

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I'm glad you feel that way. 
I don't know about the audience,

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but I'm going to do my best to 
you guys. 

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The audience is going to love 
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What are we talking about? 
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You're a blessing. 
You're you're a huge blessing. 

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We're going to have fun. 
This is going to be good. 

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So let's. 
Do this. 

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Let's pray. 
And then actually, Kate, do you 

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have any announcements you need 
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started? 
Anything like that? 

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Nope, I don't think we have any 
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end, so I say we just get to it.
We have so many questions, so I 

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think we're let's just pray and 
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OK, let's do it. 
Father in heaven, we just thank 

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you Lord so much for this time 
that we can gather together as 

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the body of Christ. 
Just lot with lots of questions.

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We pray, Lord, for guidance and 
we pray for wisdom and 

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discernment and understanding. 
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words that I share would be your
words, Lord, that you would 

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guide me in everything, Lord, 
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And Lord, we just pray that you 
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vividly and clearly as we walk 
away from this time. 

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The word that we've discussed, 
the insight that we develop in 

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knowing your word would just 
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action. 
So Lord, we love you and thank 

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you. 
We look to you. 

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We ask these things now in 
Jesus, then we pray. 

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Amen. 
Amen. 

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Pastor James, you're such a gift
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So we're excited for your 
insight. 

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We'll just kick things off with 
scripture questions. 

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We have a a good handful here. 
Our first question is from 

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Angelina. 
Angelina says I'm new and I want

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to have a connection with God. 
Which chapter in the Bible 

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should I start with? 
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believers because it sounds like
Angelina hasn't joined us yet in

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our program. 
Where would you recommend 

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somebody brand new meeting God 
for the first time wants to open

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a Bible? 
Where should they go? 

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OK, so this one is an easy one 
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It's the it's. 
Actually, the same thing that I 

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tell my Greek students, 
actually, it's not an accurate 

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statement to make. 
I haven't taught a Greek New 

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Testament class in a very, very,
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But what I would encourage you 
to do is to start with the 

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Gospel of John, especially 
chapter 1, and read all the way 

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through the book. 
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start Greek students on John 
Chapter 1 is because it is the 

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most simple Greek that you're 
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Hebrews, of course, the most 
complicated. 

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But John chapter 1 is, is such a
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You know, it's interesting when 
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would have heard John chapter 1,
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remarkable because if they had 
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written to not only Gentiles by 
a Jewish author, but it was also

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written to a culture that had no
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God, very specifically with the 
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So John pins down these words 
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reading this thing they read in 
our head Holocaust sky logos in 

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the beginning was the word in 
the word was with God in the 

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word was God. 
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powerful because later on he 
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became flesh and dwelt among us.
And if you're new and you're and

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you're reading this at the time,
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John is writing this, this is 
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profoundly awakening material. 
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is like so incredibly important 
and it still applies today. 

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You read it in the English, you 
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John literally covers 
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It it, it's so incredibly 
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As a matter of fact, in John 
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purposes for the Gospels. 
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you might believe that Jesus is 
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that believing you might have 
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I think that's where it all 
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So go to the Gospel of John. 
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profoundly, profoundly important
book if to go through when 

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you're just getting introduced 
to the Bible and I think you're 

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going to be blessed with it. 
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would be Romans, even though 
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when you're experienced, but 
it's also the place where you go

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to when you're a beginner for a 
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Now I want to just say this 
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If you go to jamescadiz.com, I 
walk you through all of these 

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books in terms of verse by 
verse, chapter by chapter. 

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If you want a summary of all of 
these books and all of the 

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insight that goes with it, of 
course you can go to the Bible 

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in 365 website. 
And I have summaries multiple 

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years, multiple generations and 
iterations of which you can also

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go to. 
So here's the bottom line. 

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You can't go wrong with the 
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The other thing that's really 
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going to let you hang, right? 
We're going to do everything 

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that we can to equip you and to 
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That you would know the word of 
God and that you would be 

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affected by it and that you 
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And I think it's just going to 
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I think it's just going to be 
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So go to the Gospel of John. 
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in Greek, we say Katayanen, 
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So the Gospel according to John,
you're going to love it. 

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It's a really, really, really 
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And it's easy. 
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It's it's basic and you're going
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able to have that. 
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That was awesome, Pastor James. 
Our next question comes from 

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Valerie Galatians. 519 through 
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as Christians have done some of 
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Yet the passage also says these 
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life. 
Can you please explain and if 

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you'd like me to read the 
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Pastor James. 
I'm pretty familiar with the 

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passage. 
The Galatians passages is 

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actually a pretty easy one. 
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understanding the difference 
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living the in the practice of 
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OK? 
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Christians never sin. 
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what he's saying here. 
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this by by bringing into 
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He's warning about a lifestyle 
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works of the flesh. 
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And I'm going to try to to quote
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head in verse 21. 
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things. 
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Instead of me butchering, let me
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Hold on one second. 
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me a second. 
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Ephesians. 
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OK, Galatians. 
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That they which do such things 
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God. 
So he is describing people whose

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lives are characterized by these
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actually stumble, repent and 
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Remember, salvation is by is by 
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Your salvation is not predicated
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Your salvation is based upon 
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cross. 
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really important that you 
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we don't live perfectly. 
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And I think that's part of the 
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we're dealing with here. 
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that. 
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First, John actually tells us 
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It actually says that if we say 
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deceive ourselves. 
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salvation, it is not perfection,
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It's a life that's actually 
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Spirit is working in US and 
we're no longer comfortable with

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living in rebellion against God.
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disturbed by what you are seeing
here is evidence of the fact 

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that you're in a really, really,
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So hopefully that helps. 
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the next question, I'm going to 
blow my nose. 

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I'm going to mute this and blow 
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You, you do that. 
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interesting. 
Pastor James, I just read this 

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week. 
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easy for our readers to 
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about salvation and faith versus
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works, it's faith that works. 
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faith, there comes the fruit. 
Faith that works. 

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that in US and, and, and that is
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incredibly important to 
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I'm a father of a nearly 2 year 
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My question is about discipline 
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where it says, quote, he who 
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this area? 
My wife's parents hate that we 

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discipline our son and people 
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thinking that hitting people is 
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like spanking or something like 
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But so he's he's wondering 
Proverbs 13, he who spares the 

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rod hates his children. 
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how it applies to biblical 
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OK. 
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tough one, OK? 
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talk about what discipline is. 
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definitely a part of that 
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I think this is, this is very, 
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understand that, OK. 
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understanding you're going to 
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disciplining children. 
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clearly here I am the father of 
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three-year old and a two-month 
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She's so cute. 
Anyway, well, they're all pretty

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cute babies. 
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let me clarify a few things. 
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what you do to your children, 
grandma and grandpa are never 

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going to like it. 
OK, I can, I'm going to just 

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make myself clear. 
My mom and my dad are now with 

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the Lord, OK? 
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that I had with them. 
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emotional thinking about that. 
I'm going to hold myself back 

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here. 
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and I even thought of doing any 
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policy when we were at grandma 
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discipline our kids when they 
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But the reality of it is we're 
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how we do it because grandpa's 
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As a matter of fact, grandpa's a
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He was before he went to go, no,
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Lord. 
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mannered man in him when he sees
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disciplined. 
He's not a big fan of that. 

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That's just grandparents in 
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So I just, I want to make that 
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want to say this, this is 
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We have to talk about what it 
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Discipline is an expression of 
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OK, It's, it's, it's really 
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that. 
Proverbs chapter 13 verse 24 

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makes that very clear. 
The rod represents correction 

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and authority. 
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responsibility of parents to 
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OK, can I just say this just 
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old? 
I promise you your child is 

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still developing. 
OK, Do whatever you do. 

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Do not confuse immaturity with 
deliberate rebellion. 

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OK, can I give you an example of
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My 3 year old is all boy. 
Everything about him is boy, but

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he's three. 
He puts rocks in his pocket, he 

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throws things across the room. 
He literally breaks everything. 

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That's insight. 
He loses his mind on occasion, 

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actually more regularly than 
not, he is all boy. 

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He's an adventurer. 
He climbs things, he jumps over 

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things, he runs across every 
open space he can find. 

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He literally acts as a mini 
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everything that he can 
terrorize. 

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That's what 3 year olds do. 
So I'm going to give you an 

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example of the mechanism of 
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life of a three-year old. 
I'll just give you an example of

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how this works. 
When my child does something 

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that he's not supposed to do, he
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So let me give you an example of
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I tell him on a regular basis, 
you are not allowed to pick up 

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the coffee cups now. 
They're made of porcelain. 

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They're fragile. 
You are not allowed to pick them

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up. 
Now if my son is in the kitchen 

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and all of a sudden I hear the 
cup breaking, I will never 

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discipline my son for breaking 
the cup. 

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Never. 
I will discipline him however, 

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for not obeying me when I told 
him not to pick up the cup. 

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Now the problem here is this 
spanking is a very calculated 

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thing that has to be done 
utilizing a mechanism of 

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awareness concerning how your 
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time. 
I don't need to spank my tender 

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age children. 
I don't. 

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I'll give you an example of 
this. 

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I'll go to my son and I'll tell 
my son, son, obey me. 

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After I ask him something, I 
asked him to do something. 

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He doesn't listen. 
He gets grace. 

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He's told son obey me. 
That's me making sure that he 

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understands what I asked him to 
do. 

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If he can demonstrate that he 
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do, and then he makes the the 
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action is escalated. 
So for example, if I go to my 

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son and I say son, come here and
I know he heard me, but I still 

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need to make sure that he heard 
me, I'll say son, obey me or I 

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will say, did you hear what I 
asked you to do? 

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The one thing I will not do is 
repeat myself when I ask him to 

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do something, especially when I 
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The moment I recognize that he's
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instantaneous. 
I walk up to him, I look at him 

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and I make sure he goes where 
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time I don't even have to grab 
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The moment he knows my attention
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and he's going to get up and and
he's going to go where I tell 

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him to. 
Most parents, a lot of parents 

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when it comes to that age group 
are not consistent because these

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kids are high energy and it's 
very difficult when they're high

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energy to be consistent. 
It's basically where I get most 

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of my exercise now. 
But the good news here is that 

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if you do that enough, by the 
time your children are four or 

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five or six or seven or eight, 
you're you're going to see them 

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act according to their age. 
You're going to see them act a 

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little crazy. 
But when it comes time for you 

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to give them instruction, 
they're going to obey. 

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OK, now with that, let me give 
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I give you some practical 
pictures. 

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Proverbs 1324 is is incredibly 
important, but discipline does 

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not mean spanking. 
Sparing a rod in Hebrew poetry 

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does not necessarily mean it's 
an automatic spanking. 

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Quite frankly, if you're 
spanking a child for something 

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they don't cognitively 
understand they're doing, it's 

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abuse. 
It's kind of crazy. 

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Parents do it all the time out 
of anger so your child is still 

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developing. 
Be consistent. 

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Never discipline out of anger or
frustration. 

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Your whole goal is instruction. 
It cannot be intimidation if if 

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you cause your children to move 
by intimidation instead of 

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influence. 
If the exertion of authority is 

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through intimidation instead of 
influence, when they get older 

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they will rebel. 
That's just the way it goes. 

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Here's the other piece of advice
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Focus on age appropriate 
correction. 

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OK, very simple. 
It's the basic you redirect, you

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teach, you reinforce obedience 
you avoid. 

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At 2 years old, absolutely avoid
physical punishment. 

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In other words, you don't spank 
a 2 year old. 

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I'm sorry, in most cases, I 
think there may be some 

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exceptions, but the reality of 
it is I don't know of any of 

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those exceptions. 
I haven't seen those exceptions 

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in in the lives of my children. 
I have not ever had to spank my 

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2 year old or my 3 year old for 
that man. 

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There've been times I'm like, 
you need to get you need to get 

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a spanking. 
I haven't had to do it because 

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the obedience is, is generally 
there. 

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OK, now Ephesians 64 comes to my
mind and it's super critical 

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here, OK? 
And it makes it clear, don't 

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provoke your children to wrath. 
Raise them in the nurture and 

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the admonition of the Lord. 
So the idea here is that you do 

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not escalate to two year old 
emotions. 

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You're the father, you're the 
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It's your responsibility. 
You make sure that they're going

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to do what they ask you to do 
and if they don't, you bring 

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them in. 
Same thing as mom, as a mother, 

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it's very simple. 
It's you. 

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There is no option. 
You tell them, come here, they 

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don't listen. 
You walk up to them, you carry 

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them over. 
You literally grab them by the 

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arm. 
Not hard, not harsh. 

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You just simply in a very calm 
way, you focus, you show them 

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you mean business by not 
escalating to the level that 

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they get to. 
It's really simple. 

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Now for people like me, I'm loud
in general. 

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And if you're loud in general, 
that's fine. 

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But the reality of it is be 
careful not to respond in anger.

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You have to remember the 
ultimate goal. 

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You're not simply raising a 
child who obeys you, OK? 

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You're raising a child who 
learns to obey and fear the 

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Lord. 
Now, I'll, I'll tell you kind of

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the mindset, the formula that I 
have when it comes to my 

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children. 
And then there's a caveat I want

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to offer to this, which I think 
is also very critical, and 

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that's this. 
My children, let me let me back 

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up. 
From ages zero to 50, doesn't 

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matter. 
Infant's an infant. 

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You know, they're going to cry, 
poop, scream, whatever. 

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You, you, if you get mad at 
that, you, you, you, you need 

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prayer. 
OK. 

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But from zero to five, you're 
the dictator. 

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What they say, they're going to.
What you say they're going to 

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do. 
They're not allowed to ask why 

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questions, they're not allowed 
to talk back, they're going to 

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do what you say. 
During those first five years, 

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they have to learn how to obey 
you unconditionally and not 

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blink. 
That's easy to do in a child at 

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that age, especially if you keep
them away from screens. 

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OK, Especially if you keep them 
away from screens. 

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By the time they get to around 
age 5 or so, you're going to 

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start asking why questions, and 
you better have the answer. 

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If you are not answering their 
why questions, by the time 

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they're age 5, they will find 
somebody else to answer the why 

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questions and they will be 
misguided. 

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By the time they get to around 
age 7, maybe 8, then they learn 

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how to take the why questions 
and begin to apply them to a 

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place of practicality. 
This is where you'll begin to 

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see them taking on more 
responsibilities. 

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This is where you know you will 
have them do lots of things. 

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My 5 year old and my 8 year old 
are very responsible young 

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little girls and they do a lot 
around the house to help their 

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mom. 
OK, There is a there's a 

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responsibility level that they 
are beginning to be trained in. 

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By the time they're 12 or 13 
years old, they're already 

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making those decisions 
autonomously based on the way 

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that you've already trained 
them. 

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OK, with all of that said, spend
some time and pray about how to 

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reach into the very soul in the 
heart of your child. 

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The last thing I want to say 
about this is I would be amiss 

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to not give you all of this 
instruction, all to say that 

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every child is different and 
everyone responds differently. 

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But whatever you do, keep the 
general outline that I gave you 

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because responding just for the 
sake of saying I discipline my 

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child by hitting them. 
It it doesn't work, it in many 

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cases it doesn't work. 
I'll just give you one last 

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example of this. 
And this is the genius of my 

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father and the way that he 
raised me. 

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When I was young, much younger, 
my dad said to do something. 

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I didn't do it almost always 
because of the way that he 

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perceived me being. 
He didn't do this with my little

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brother. 
He didn't do this with my 

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younger sister because of the 
way their emotional makeup was. 

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He did this with me and my older
brother. 

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If I if I denied what he asked 
me to do, it was an instant 

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spanking. 
That was just the way it worked.

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OK, I remember this one time 
telling my dad that I was going 

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to call Child Protective 
Services. 

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And I kid you not, he got a 
videotape. 

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He gave it to my mom, a video 
camera. 

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He gave it to my mom, turned on 
the video camera and gave me a, 

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a spanking of a of a lifetime. 
And in his old school Middle 

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Eastern accent, he says, And 
when you call the Child 

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Protective Services gives them 
this tape too. 

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My dad is just that way. 
He was a very old school 

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disciplinarian, OK, but he was 
my hero. 

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He was an incredible man of God.
Everything that I learned about 

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raising my children came from 
him and his love for God's Word 

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and his love for his children. 
That was interesting because 

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there was a point in time where 
I got bigger. 

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And so anything he did with 
respect to spanking didn't 

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really do much good. 
So my dad spent a lot of time in

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prayer figuring out what would 
be inappropriate alternative. 

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So here's a great example. 
My dad used to go past my room. 

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He would say, clean your room, 
James. 

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I wouldn't do it. 
It was forced. 

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You're going to clean your room.
Sometimes there was a spanking 

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because of the rebellion. 
Sometimes there was a he's going

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to stand there and watch me do 
it. 

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There was all kinds of things he
did. 

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I got to a point of time where I
mature just a little bit. 

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This was probably around 12 
years old. 

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And my dad recognized something 
in me and God gave him the 

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insight to do it. 
So this is how he this is how he

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handled that situation. 
He walked up to the door and he 

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said, clean your room James. 
All right, dad, I'll get to it. 

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Next day, clean your room, 
James. 

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All right, dad, I'll get to it. 
Third day, he just didn't say 

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anything. close the door and 
walk by. 4th day, he looked in 

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the room, saw that nothing had 
happened, close the door and 

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went by. 
By the time it was day 5, I lost

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my mind. 
I couldn't take it anymore and I

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cleaned my room on my own. 
And there was something in my 

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dad that recognized that my 
character wasn't comfortable 

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with living in a pigsty. 
So my dad allowed it to come out

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because he knew that I was 
sufficiently trained and he 

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allowed that training to come 
out. 

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That comes from a man who spent 
a lot of time praying. 

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That comes from a man who spent 
a lot of time thinking so 

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clearly about everything related
to his children and then 

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executed discipline according to
that was a form of discipline. 

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It was just a very well thought 
out, very articulated picture of

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what discipline was. 
And my dad was remarkable. 

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My dad was a master of doing 
things like that. 

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That's great wisdom, Pastor 
James, and I know it means a lot

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00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,760
to a lot of our readers. 
I'm seeing a lot of comments on 

454
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,080
here about it. 
And I mean, really powerful, 

455
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,280
especially just that idea of, 
you know, influence, influence, 

456
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,680
you know, over your children as 
you raise them up is incredible.

457
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,080
Well, and I think it's important
to understand this. 

458
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,960
You know, I, I didn't, I didn't 
adopt these precious children 

459
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:27,720
just to neglect them and let 
them fall by the wayside. 

460
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:33,280
You know, God gave us these 
babies so that we can bring them

461
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,920
to this place of maturity. 
They are a Cadiz child, you 

462
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,640
know, and they, they, they are 
children of the true and living 

463
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,160
God. 
They've been adopted just like 

464
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:49,440
we've been adopted. 
And the reality of it is my 

465
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,480
children will learn how to 
become everything that God has 

466
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,240
called them to be. 
And we're so excited because 

467
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,240
they're amazing, well adjusted 
little babies. 

468
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,560
They're happy, they're godly, 
they're very, very obedient. 

469
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,400
Don't get me wrong, they got 
their moments of rebellion, but 

470
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:10,880
they're incredible. 
And, and I have to acknowledge 

471
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,320
this. 
I have an amazing wife. 

472
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,360
I have a wife that does such a 
great job in raising these 

473
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,400
children. 
And every now and then has to 

474
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,400
deploy the, I'm calling Baba 
mechanics. 

475
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,800
And by the way, it's interesting
because all it takes sometimes 

476
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,320
is a phone call. 
You know, if, if my, if my 

477
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:29,880
little 1 is just being a little 
boy and he's just crazy in his 

478
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,280
head and he's not listening. 
Sometimes Mama will call Baba 

479
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,400
and all it takes is a phone 
call, son, obey. 

480
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,640
That's all I have to do. 
I don't ever have to do anything

481
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,120
else. 
And he's on it. 

482
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:41,400
That's, that's just the way it 
goes. 

483
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,800
That's the faithfulness of God 
and and I think every parent can

484
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,360
achieve that in their children. 
And you know, Pastor James, this

485
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,400
actually I'm going to change 
things up a bit. 

486
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,240
There's a final question for 
lifestyle. 

487
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,400
So it's right above our 
scripture questions, last 

488
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,600
lifestyle question that came to 
my mind while you're answering 

489
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,160
this, because it's a question 
about not just parenting when 

490
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,840
your kids are young, but how 
your role as a parent changes as

491
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,760
your kids grow. 
So I'm going to go ahead and 

492
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,520
give you this question from 
Nancy. 

493
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,960
She says where in the Bible does
it speak about grandparents 

494
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,760
responsibility to their 
grandkids and even grown 

495
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,040
children? 
My husband and I feel mixed at 

496
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,920
times on our responsibility 
towards helping our own grown 

497
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,640
children and grandkids. 
We haven't questioned it until 

498
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:26,240
recently. 
A pattern of canceling our plans

499
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:27,920
as a couple to be of help to 
them. 

500
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,640
How does ask ourselves this 
question? 

501
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,760
Is there a time we're supposed 
to say no? 

502
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,040
So if you could, if you could 
speak to that at the end of your

503
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,200
question. 
But I think also would help a 

504
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:41,040
lot of people who, you know, 
maybe their child is 20 now or 

505
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,440
30, but they're still learning 
how to be adults, learning to 

506
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,200
grow in life. 
So as as your kids age, you know

507
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,400
if you could also just give some
insight on on parenting and 

508
00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,040
grandparenting. 
Man, that Nancy. 

509
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,120
What a what a question. 
It's a great question by the 

510
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,120
way, the answer. 
Very clearly is yes, OK? 

511
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,360
There is absolutely a time to 
say no. 

512
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,520
Loving your children doesn't 
mean you're obligated to 

513
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:17,440
accommodate every request that 
they make, OK? 

514
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:22,320
And that applies into adulthood.
Proverbs chapter 17 says 

515
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,680
something very interesting and I
love this. 

516
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,040
Verse 6 is it's. 
It's one that is so embedded 

517
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,400
within my head and my heart cuz 
it makes me think of my my dad 

518
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,120
all the time, right? 
It says in verse six, children's

519
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,640
children are the crown of old 
men. 

520
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,440
Let me say that one more time. 
Children's children are the 

521
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,000
crown of old men. 
OK. 

522
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:49,200
And the glory of children ready 
for this one are their fathers. 

523
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,720
The glory of children are their 
fathers. 

524
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:57,120
So grandchildren are a blessing,
but that does not mean that 

525
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,120
grandparents are responsible for
raising them. 

526
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,560
OK. 
That responsibility falls upon 

527
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,200
mom and dad. 
First Timothy, chapter 5, verse 

528
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:09,840
8. 
It teaches us the importance of 

529
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,000
that. 
Look, I can, I can literally 

530
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:16,760
skip out on some church 
services. 

531
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:22,639
I could like say no to the Bible
in 365 Q&A at the last minute. 

532
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,639
I can literally not go to church
for three weeks and the Bible 

533
00:34:28,639 --> 00:34:30,040
would not condemn me for doing 
that. 

534
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,320
And there might be some 
underlying issues there that the

535
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,920
Bible speaks about, but the 
Bible wouldn't condemn me for 

536
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,120
it. 
First Timothy chapter 5 says 

537
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:45,400
that you're worse than an 
infidel if you do not provide 

538
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:49,920
for your children. 
So if if you're if you're 

539
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:54,400
creating an incumbency upon 
grandfathers and grandmothers to

540
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,240
provide you in and of yourself, 
you're worse than an infidel. 

541
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,800
Genesis 2 establishes this. 
Genesis 2 tells us that the man 

542
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:08,760
leaves his father and mother and
cleaves to his wife. 

543
00:35:09,720 --> 00:35:14,040
So your marriage remains a 
priority even when your children

544
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,320
are grown. 
And you have to really be 

545
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,760
thinking about that. 
Galatians 62. 

546
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:23,760
And actually verse 5 speaks 
very, very clearly to this. 

547
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,120
OK, we're told to bear one 
another's burdens, but we're 

548
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,080
also told that every man shall 
bear his own burden. 

549
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,760
And, and I think that that, yes,
that even applies to the 

550
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,160
familial relationships. 
I now, don't get me wrong, I 

551
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,520
think that there's a difference 
here between, you know, helping 

552
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,320
somebody through a difficult 
time and, and consistently 

553
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,200
carrying responsibilities that 
belong to them. 

554
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,000
There's a, those are two big 
different things. 

555
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,240
So, you know, helping is a 
blessing. 

556
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,360
It's a huge blessing, but 
enabling dependency is 

557
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,440
absolutely not. 
Now I, I, I can tell you this, 

558
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:08,360
if grandma and grandpa we're 
going to be the people that took

559
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:13,600
our place, we, we'd be failing 
as a mom and dad, we wouldn't be

560
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:18,960
doing our job. 
Now Grandma is the meeting the 

561
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:24,480
the mom on my wife's side is 
still very alive and well and we

562
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:29,840
often times include her in a lot
of things, but we always go out 

563
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,320
of our way to make sure she does
not carry any of those burdens. 

564
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,280
She gets to be grandma, she gets
to have fun with the kids, she 

565
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,880
gets to be, she gets to spoil 
them, she gets to do whatever 

566
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,640
she wants to do. 
My aunt, which is the last 

567
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,360
living sibling of my mom, is 
also very much like a 

568
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:50,960
grandmother figure to my 
children and they go to her 

569
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,160
house. 
We don't really, we don't really

570
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,360
say anything. 
We let them do whatever they 

571
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,480
want to do, but it's our 
responsibility to discipline 

572
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,160
them. 
My aunt and Mel is is such a 

573
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,840
powerful picture of this. 
She will, if the kids are over 

574
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,600
there as grandma, she will let 
the kids go do whatever the kids

575
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,360
need to do what you don't want 
to do whatever. 

576
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:14,400
But she will not allow herself 
to become the person who should 

577
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,440
be the mother or the father. 
So here's what I would encourage

578
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,080
you to remember. 
Let let let me just summarize it

579
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,000
like this. 
You're never going to stop being

580
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,320
a parent, OK? 
But your responsibility changes 

581
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,440
when your children become 
adults, OK? 

582
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,080
You can love your children. 
You can love your grandchildren 

583
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:41,240
deeply without sacrificing the 
the health of your marriage or 

584
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:44,440
every commitment you've made to 
one another. 

585
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,320
Those are important to maintain.
It's for me. 

586
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,400
I'll tell you how it works with 
me. 

587
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,480
It's God first, then it's my 
wife, then it's my children, 

588
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,200
then it's the Church of the 
ministry. 

589
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,680
That's how it goes. 
So I don't think that you're 

590
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,680
wrong in thinking this way or 
tracking in this way. 

591
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,920
I I think you're on good 
grounds. 

592
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,560
Thank you. 
Our next question comes from 

593
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:12,040
Gina. 
Gina is referring to Isaiah 65. 

594
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Verse 17 through 25, she says 
Isaiah speaks about the new 

595
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,800
heavens and the new earth that 
God will be creating. 

596
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,600
I've always interpreted this to 
mean or this to be the eternal 

597
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,040
Kingdom. 
But verse 20 says, quote, the 

598
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:28,200
one who dies at 100 will be 
thought a mere child. 

599
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,680
End Quote, which seems to imply 
there will be death. 

600
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:34,480
Is this passage speaking about 
the millennial Kingdom and not 

601
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,320
the Eternal 1? 
Yeah, this is a great question. 

602
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:42,680
And definitely what we're 
talking about here is we are we 

603
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,880
are talking about the millennial
reign, which is a little 

604
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,360
different. 
Now, I know that there's a lot 

605
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,280
of people here that will 
disagree with me, but I think I 

606
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,000
can make a great argument for 
it. 

607
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,760
We can spend a lot of time 
talking about it. 

608
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,840
So yes, Isaiah 65 is primarily 
describing the millennial 

609
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:05,480
Kingdom, which by the way, is is
especially true of the beginning

610
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,880
of verse 20. 
Now Isaiah 65, verse 17 actually

611
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:13,960
mentions the new heaven and new 
earth, but the passage then 

612
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,040
describes conditions that are 
associated with the earthly 

613
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,920
reign of Christ. 
So there's, there's, it's very 

614
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:24,240
easy to create this conflation, 
but verse 20 is indeed the key. 

615
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,240
People are still dying even 
though lifespans are 

616
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:33,440
dramatically extended. 
But that cannot describe the 

617
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,520
eternal state. 
OK, matter of fact, Revelation 

618
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:40,480
21 four, which by the way, Part 
2 of this book comes out 

619
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,320
probably beginning of next year.
But if you have not got this 

620
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,920
book, you should get it because 
I walk people through this. 

621
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,080
This is the first 10 chapters of
the Book of Revelation. 

622
00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:49,880
I think it's easy and simple to 
understand. 

623
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:51,000
Hopefully you guys will 
appreciate it. 

624
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:56,360
But Revelation chapter 21 very 
specifically, it actually 

625
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,800
explicitly tells us that in the 
eternal state, and here's the 

626
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,880
quote, there shall be no more 
death. 

627
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,680
The Bible tells us that through 
one man sin entered the world, 

628
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,360
and because of that sin, death 
came. 

629
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:10,960
That we can thank Adam for that 
because that's what. 

630
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:13,680
The Bible is identifying here, 
so that's important. 

631
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:25,760
So Isaiah 65 verses 21 probably 
probably say to like 23 

632
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,880
describes people that are 
actually building houses, 

633
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,880
they're planting vineyards. 
As a matter of fact, they're 

634
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,160
having children and they are 
specifically says that they're 

635
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:41,760
enjoying the fruit of their 
labor. 20 verse 25 actually 

636
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:45,240
describes the passages. 
Also, often times it was quoted,

637
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:47,200
everybody says all the lion is 
laying with the lamb. 

638
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:52,200
That's not what it says. 
Isaiah 6525 actually says the 

639
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,000
wolf and the lamb are feeding 
together, which is, by the way, 

640
00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:59,440
consistent with the conditions 
that are described in Isaiah 11 

641
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,280
regarding the Messiah's reign. 
And that's what we call the 

642
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,200
millennial reign. 
Now here's what's important. 

643
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:10,120
Isaiah is looking forward 
prophetically and and describing

644
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,840
the restoration that God is 
going to bring at multiple 

645
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:14,920
levels. 
So one of the levels of 

646
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,600
restoration is Christ's ruling 
and reigning on this earth until

647
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,560
we see everything happening 
later on. 

648
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:23,280
And that's a whole other 
discussion. 

649
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,800
Harmegido, Armageddon, we're 
going to talk about all that. 

650
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:30,040
There's a lot going on there. 
So all of these conditions that 

651
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,440
are being described here, they 
belong to the Millennium. 

652
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,240
One of the thing that I would 
say, and that is this 

653
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:40,600
distinction here is very simple,
OK? 

654
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,160
And and it's one that once you 
see it, you're not going to be 

655
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,000
able to Unsee it. 
But during the Millennium, death

656
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,840
still exists, OK, In the eternal
state that's has been completely

657
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:53,840
abolished. 
That's how you know we're 

658
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,840
talking about the Millennial 
Ring. 

659
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,760
Which by the. 
Way I'm teaching through Isaiah.

660
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:00,760
I'm actually teaching through 
Isaiah right now. 

661
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,040
I should get to 65 probably in 
another 20 weeks. 

662
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,040
But yeah, it's, it's a great 
passage. 

663
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,040
Well, and just to remind 
everybody, as Pastor James kind 

664
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:12,400
of touched on the very 
beginning, we do on our YouTube 

665
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,040
channel have playlists for a 
background book videos. 

666
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,120
So you can watch all the 
backgrounds Pastor James has 

667
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,080
ever done on the Book of 
Revelation. 

668
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,640
Like he said, you can go to his 
site, search his video content, 

669
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,080
YouTube library, and then don't 
forget too that we have that dig

670
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,760
deeper link in the daily reading
so you can explore passages with

671
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:33,600
that enduring word commentary as
well. 

672
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,760
But I know there's always a ton 
of questions on Revelation. 

673
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,440
And like he said, he's got the 
first part of his book out 

674
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:41,120
already. 
I know that's on 

675
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,360
jameskitties.com. 
And then like we said, just feel

676
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,080
free to check out our YouTube 
channel with all those book 

677
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,960
background videos on the book 
background playlist. 

678
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,920
Our our next question comes from
Emma. 

679
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,080
Emma says I'm from Denmark and 
I've read the Bible in Danish 

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and I'm currently reading the 
ESV version with you guys. 

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I suddenly have a feeling that 
I've missed a lot of meaning 

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because it was lost in 
translation. 

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How can I make sure that I 
understand God's word even when 

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there's a big difference in 
languages? 

685
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,280
Man, that is such a great. 
What a wow, what a great 

686
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,520
question, and I'm going to try 
my best not to turn this into a 

687
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a lesson in manuscripts and. 
Textual criticism. 

688
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,840
One of the things that I learned
very, very quickly when I 

689
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started learning how to read 
biblical languages was that our 

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translations are phenomenal. 
As a matter of fact, when I used

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to teach Greek in the Bible 
college, I would tell the Greek 

692
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students who were bright eyed 
and bushy tailed and all excited

693
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,000
to prove to everybody that they 
knew something that nobody else 

694
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,480
knew. 
I would always tell them, brace 

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00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,720
yourself because the 
translations are so phenomenally

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00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:50,000
put together that original 
language is probably the 

697
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,160
smallest part of good biblical 
interpretation. 

698
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,920
So let me just start off by 
simply saying don't be 

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00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,320
discouraged, OK? 
God is not limited by the 

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language that you are reading 
your Bible in. 

701
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,440
Now I want you to understand 
that the Bible was originally 

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written in Hebrew and in Aramaic
and in Greek. 

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Now Hebrew, most of the Old 
Testament, Aramaic, presumably a

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few chapters in the book of 
Daniel and Greek, of course, all

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of the New Testament. 
Now, every English or Danish or 

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00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:24,600
Arabic or any other language you
can think of is a translation. 

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00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:28,720
And yes, translations can differ
in wording without changing the 

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essential meaning. 
Now, some translations emphasize

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word for word accuracy, while 
others will emphasize 

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00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,000
readability, which is what we 
would oftentimes refer to as 

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dynamically equivalent. 
Let me just explain this 

712
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,040
principle very quickly so that 
you can understand it. 

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00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,040
If I were to tell you right now 
I don't have to have a dini 

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00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,800
Hagasa, the word for word 
translation for that would be go

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00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,600
into the ice and get me 
something cold. 

716
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,520
Now that makes absolutely no 
sense. 

717
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,080
OK. 
But if I were to translate that 

718
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,760
in its dynamically equivalent 
form, I would be translating 

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00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,760
that, hey, go to the fridge and 
get me a Coke. 

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00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,400
Now, obviously there's a lot of 
things contextually that have to

721
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,920
happen in order to be able to 
correctly translate that. 

722
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:12,120
And that's where some of the 
biggest difficulties that we 

723
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have exist with the Bible. 
Give you an example of this. 

724
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Greek is a very word for word 
type of language, OK. 

725
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,720
When you read the Greek, there's
not a lot of questions left, 

726
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:26,200
especially because of the way 
the grammatical infrastructure 

727
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,000
is, because of the way 
vocabulary is. 

728
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,880
It's there's, it's very 
difficult to get that messed up,

729
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,480
OK, Especially if you're 
sticking with the disciplines 

730
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,040
that you've learned in good 
biblical translation, the 

731
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,680
mechanics of it are a lot easier
to get. 

732
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,840
In Hebrew, completely different 
story. 

733
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,480
Hebrew I could, I could spend 
the next two hours telling you 

734
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,800
about some of the problems that 
we have in Hebrew, especially 

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00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,640
when you understand the fact 
that Hebrew is a dynamically 

736
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,800
equivalent oriented language. 
Meaning if I'm going to 

737
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translate from Hebrew, an 
overwhelming majority of the 

738
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time you are translating what 
they call thought for thought. 

739
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:08,880
OK, in other words, you're not 
translating, go to the ice and 

740
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,080
get me something cold. 
You're actually translating, 

741
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,080
Hey, go to the fridge and get me
a Coke. 

742
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:16,640
Now there's lots of problems 
with that because in the Hebrew 

743
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,880
language, it's not the same in 
the Bible as it is today in 

744
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,600
modern days. 
And even if it is, and when I 

745
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,960
say the same meaning, it's not a
dead language, OK, But there are

746
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,680
some differences unique enough 
that create some challenges. 

747
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,280
And even, let's just say that 
even they're, even though 

748
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,080
they're exactly the same, the 
cultural analysis that would 

749
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,960
have to be done in order to be 
able to establish the context is

750
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:46,320
very, very tricky. 
Now, with all of that said, I 

751
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,360
want you to understand that 
these translations are 

752
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:53,640
phenomenal, OK? 
They are very, very good. 

753
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,200
And what you lose in the text in
terms of maybe a few very 

754
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,520
specific words, you're going to 
be able to gain in the context. 

755
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:06,440
So the, the, the, the powerful 
picture that you should draw 

756
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,280
from this is the promises that 
Jesus makes. 

757
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,160
And there's no confusion there, 
right? 

758
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:15,000
He says in John 16, I think it's
right around verse 13, he says, 

759
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,120
look, he's going to give us the 
para Kama. 

760
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,400
Oh, that's what it says in 
Greek, meaning the helper, the 

761
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,200
Holy Spirit. 
He's our helper. 

762
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:25,520
He guides us into truth. 
That's what the Bible says. 

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00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,440
So what I would tell you is pray
before you read and ask the Lord

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to give you an understanding 
based on the subjectivity that 

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00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,080
the translation provides for 
you. 

766
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:39,120
And by the way, most 
translations are phenomenal as 

767
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,360
long as you're not going to that
garbage passion translation or 

768
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,160
the there's a few of these, 
really, they're not 

769
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,040
translations. 
They're just a bunch of lies. 

770
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,600
Be careful with those. 
But the the general ones are 

771
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,720
good. 
Now I tell people, even though I

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00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:54,120
read out of the King James, 
teach out of the King James, and

773
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,840
oftentimes study out of the King
James, I tell people don't read 

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00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,400
the King James because most 
people don't know Elizabethan 

775
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,760
English and they don't 
understand the nuances of 

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00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,320
Elizabethan English. 
Read a new King James, maybe an 

777
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,400
NASB. 
Those are all very, very good. 

778
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,680
Even the HTS Visa is a pretty 
good translation. 

779
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,440
The ESV is a great translation 
as well. 

780
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,880
Quick nuance on the ESV. 
The ESV was a translation that 

781
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,200
was designed very specifically 
to be read out loud. 

782
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,280
That's how it was designed. 
So if a lot of pastors like it 

783
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:26,320
because when they read it, it's 
it's designed to be heard. 

784
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,840
I think actually Erica reads the
ESVI. 

785
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,160
Think she does. 
Maybe Kate? 

786
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,160
We do, yeah. 
We get, we get a ton of readers 

787
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,760
that ask what version that we 
use and we do use the ESV. 

788
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,280
But like we always say, you 
know, if that version isn't what

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00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:45,400
is most helpful to you, by all 
means, you know, follow along 

790
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,400
with the actual chapters and 
verses, but read out of the 

791
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,120
version that is more comfortable
for you. 

792
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,480
Or as a reminder, we do have the
audio on Spotify and Apple 

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00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,200
Podcast. 
If it's easier for you to learn 

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00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,560
by listening, take advantage of 
that. 

795
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,040
You know, for for our program, 
we don't want you to feel so 

796
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,320
regimented by what exactly we're
offering that you're not 

797
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,800
learning or hearing it in the 
way that's most helpful for you.

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00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:08,000
So. 
Yeah. 

799
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,640
And I'll tell you where the ESV 
came from in terms of you guys 

800
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,240
using it is Charlie and I got 
into a pretty. 

801
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,560
Long term extensive conversation
on this issue, the translation 

802
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:20,880
issue. 
And you know, the way Charlie 

803
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,280
was, he was just very, he wanted
to know everything that he 

804
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,600
didn't understand and wanted to 
wanted to master it. 

805
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:30,080
So when it came to language 
issues, often times he came to 

806
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,400
me and we had some very, very 
long drawn out questions and. 

807
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:38,200
In conversation, it came up that
the ESV was probably one of the 

808
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,280
best ones to be reading publicly
because it was designed to be 

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00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,200
read publicly. 
And then I think from that point

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00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,720
on they started doing that. 
Which makes actually a good 

811
00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:48,760
sense. 
It's it's a great it's a great 

812
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,880
translation. 
And that's so interesting, 

813
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:56,800
thinking about like. 
How how effective it is when 

814
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,640
it's read out loud. 
So and then just keep this in 

815
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mind. 
You have the Holy Spirit helping

816
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,080
you. 
Second Timothy tells us to do 

817
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:10,000
our best right? 
So to to show yourself approved 

818
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,040
as somebody who is seeking out 
the word of God. 

819
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,160
Remember passages like Acts 
1711. 

820
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,760
You don't take for face value of
the things that people tell you.

821
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,440
Go and search it out. 
So here, here's what I would 

822
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:23,640
tell you. 
Don't confuse discovering 

823
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,920
something new in a different 
translation with having missed 

824
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:31,560
God's truth all these years. 
What you might not realize is 

825
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,720
that not only are you growing in
your ability to understand the 

826
00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:39,640
English language within the 
context of biblical terminology 

827
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,280
and, and, and that's going to 
change the way you look at 

828
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,400
things, but just understand that
sometimes another translation 

829
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,360
might help you recognize 
something you hadn't noticed 

830
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,360
before. 
The one thing I will tell you is

831
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,920
this. 
I have talked through the Bible 

832
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:55,480
completely from cover to cover 
maybe 15 times. 

833
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,360
I, I, I don't know, I've read 
through it hundreds of times, 

834
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,720
hundreds and hundreds of times. 
And every day I open up the 

835
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:04,040
Bible, I see something new. 
So that's just the nature of the

836
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,960
beast because it is a very 
spiritual book. 

837
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,560
It's dynamic, it's powerful. 
The most important thing is, is 

838
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,680
what we do here at Bible in 365,
the thing that we encourage 

839
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:18,120
everybody to do, and that's this
Keep reading, OK? 

840
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,760
The more familiar you become 
with the entire Bible, the 

841
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:25,960
easier it becomes to recognize 
what God is communicating 

842
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:28,520
through his word. 
And, and, and that's what I 

843
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,720
would that's what I would tell 
you. 

844
00:51:29,720 --> 00:51:32,960
I think it's really important 
that you that you find 

845
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,560
encouragement in that because I 
think it it'll just bless you 

846
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,040
overall. 
And I know there was a lot 

847
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,920
there, but I think it's good to 
just develop an awareness 

848
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,760
overall of the of the bigger 
picture. 

849
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,240
Thank you, Pastor James. 
Everyone is going to be excited 

850
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,640
to see that we're here. 
Hey guys, sorry today just 

851
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,600
rolled into itself so I'm going 
to have I roll. 

852
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,400
I roll into myself all the time 
that happens. 

853
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:03,960
I needed that laugh. 
I'm going to have her ask the 

854
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,520
next question while I pull up 
everything. 

855
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:11,040
I grabbed the wrong iPad this 
morning, so I'm going to get 

856
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,360
caught up and then she'll ask 
this next one and then we'll 

857
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,720
just ping pong back and forth. 
So the next question is from 

858
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:19,680
Marie. 
Please define and explain the 

859
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,360
term Zion as it's used 
biblically and why people seem 

860
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,080
to used Zionist almost like a 
slur. 

861
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,480
What is this difference 
culturally versus biblically? 

862
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:34,920
I'm confused. 
Someone's about to light a fire 

863
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:35,880
in me on this one. 
I. 

864
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:40,200
Figured. 
Well, let me just tell you, 

865
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:49,560
Sion, Oh my goodness. 
OK, I people call me a Zionist 

866
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:52,840
and, and like they're insulting 
me, right? 

867
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,760
And and I just go, well, thank 
you for the compliment. 

868
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,400
OK, let me let me, let me just 
say this, Marie, and this is 

869
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,440
really, really important. 
OK, Sion, first and foremost is 

870
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:14,200
a biblical term, OK? 
It it originally referred to the

871
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:20,320
the stronghold of David, the 
stronghold that David actually 

872
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,720
captured in Jerusalem. 
Well, you could call it the 

873
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:24,760
stronghold of David too, in many
cases. 

874
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:30,080
OK, Now this was identified as 
the city of David as early as 

875
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:35,080
Second Samuel. 
Now, over time, Zion came to 

876
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,320
refer to Yahoo Shalim Jerusalem.
By the way, it's interesting 

877
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:44,120
when we use Hebrew words, they 
don't sound anything like we use

878
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,640
in the English language. 
Kind of interesting little 

879
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,360
nuance to speak about because 
words are pronounced differently

880
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,760
in their original native 
languages. 

881
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:56,800
So when we say, for example, 
Capernaum, that's a city a lot 

882
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,960
of people are familiar with in 
Hebrew, we'd say when we would 

883
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,960
say Daniel. 
It's a very common name that 

884
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:07,440
lots of people who've never 
spoken a word of Hebrew actually

885
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,600
have. 
We don't say Daniel would say 

886
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,840
dah nahil. 
So same, same kind of a thing. 

887
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,840
Zion's a beautiful word to Jews 
and to Christians. 

888
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:21,040
It should be a beautiful word to
Jews and Christians. 

889
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:27,480
Over time it became Jerusalem, 
and in some context it would it 

890
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,160
would refer to the people of 
Israel. 

891
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:34,040
Psalm 132, for example, verse 13
says the Lord hath chosen Sion. 

892
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:38,240
The Lord hath chosen Zion. 
He hath desired it for his 

893
00:54:38,240 --> 00:54:40,440
habitation. 
Isaiah chapter 2. 

894
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,480
Another beautiful example of 
this verse 3. 

895
00:54:43,680 --> 00:54:48,200
It tells us that the law shall 
go forth out of Zion and the 

896
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:52,440
word of the Lord from Jerusalem.
So this has, by the way, 

897
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:55,920
remarkable prophetic 
significance for the days that 

898
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:58,280
are coming, which I think is 
very important. 

899
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:02,600
Now, Zionism in its modern 
political sense, if that's the 

900
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:08,520
way you want to, you want to 
call it, refers to supporting a 

901
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:12,880
Jewish national homeland in the 
historic land of Israel. 

902
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:15,120
That's what that movement is all
about. 

903
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:19,200
That movement emerged in the 
late 19th century, even though 

904
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:23,480
it's already, and I use the term
emerged because it's always 

905
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,280
existed. 
OK, I, I should, I should point 

906
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,120
this out. 
And, and I think that this is 

907
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:36,520
like very, very important, OK? 
Biblical Zionism is a whole 

908
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,200
other issue that we should be 
talking about. 

909
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,680
OK? 
As a Christian, my conviction 

910
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,040
concerning Israel is rooted in 
the promises that God made to 

911
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:49,200
Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and 
their descendants. 

912
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,600
I don't have to quote Genesis 
12. 

913
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,080
Three. 
How about something as simple as

914
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,880
Genesis chapter 17? 
You can look it up there. 

915
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,880
Genesis 17 verses 7 through 8 is
particularly important. 

916
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:06,720
By the way, This is why Zionist 
sometimes is used. 

917
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,280
Well, let me simplify a little 
bit. 

918
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,680
How about I just impose the 
question that you impose? 

919
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,520
Why is Zionist used as an 
insult? 

920
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,200
Why is it a curse word, which, 
by the way, it's like, curse me 

921
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:21,760
with it. 
I don't care, OK? 

922
00:56:23,840 --> 00:56:26,560
I think it mostly comes from the
enemy, by the way. 

923
00:56:26,560 --> 00:56:28,880
It comes from the devil. 
But I'll leave that be. 

924
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:35,760
Some people strongly oppose the 
political movement that exists 

925
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,160
with Israeli government 
policies. 

926
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,920
We're not called to support 
Israeli government policies. 

927
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,240
We don't have to. 
There's a massive deep state 

928
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:49,080
within Israel right now that I 
despise, I'm not a big fan of 

929
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,840
and I probably am not very well 
liked because I see things very 

930
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,160
differently than a lot of people
who it's funny to me. 

931
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:57,720
I, I, I think it's hilarious 
that so many people will put 

932
00:56:57,720 --> 00:57:00,960
down people like Bebe and other 
people in the Israeli government

933
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,040
and they wouldn't even be able 
to tell you. 

934
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,080
They wouldn't even be able to 
summarize how the Israeli 

935
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,920
government works. 
Some of the most famous Jew 

936
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,280
haters, we'll tell you how much 
they hate the Israeli 

937
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:12,800
government, but wouldn't even be
able to. 

938
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,400
They wouldn't be able to explain
to save their lives how the 

939
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:20,040
government actually works. 
OK, now we've seen it. 

940
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:24,160
There's others that use the term
to express massive hostility 

941
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,400
towards the Jewish national 
identity. 

942
00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,640
And that's evil. 
And sometimes they use it as a 

943
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:33,840
substitute for what I would 
refer to as openly anti-Semitic 

944
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,160
language. 
And I think that those 

945
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:41,480
distinctions clearly matter. 
Here's a distinction I want you 

946
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:43,800
to remember. 
OK, This is important. 

947
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,760
Supporting God's promises to 
Israel doesn't mean you have to 

948
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,800
agree with every decision the 
Israeli government makes. 

949
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:55,040
You don't. 
Romans Chapter 11 says for the 

950
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,480
gifts and the calling of God are
without repentance. 

951
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,480
That wasn't referring to a 
pastor who's fallen in the 

952
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,280
ministry. 
That refers to the fact that 

953
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:07,000
God's faithfulness to his 
promises towards Israel are 

954
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,600
never going to be revoked. 
Governments are going to come 

955
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,920
and go. 
They're going to be, they'll 

956
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,520
hear one day they're going to 
leave the other. 

957
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:21,600
Now, I, I will tell you that 
there are so many things that 

958
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,240
happen in governments across all
over the world. 

959
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,480
Why the obsession with Israel? 
Because I think Israel is at the

960
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,200
very center of what God says is 
going to happen prophetically in

961
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,520
the world one day. 
And the devil hates it and he's 

962
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,640
trying to destroy it. 
I think it's that simple. 

963
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,200
And I think it's getting to the 
point where it's just absolutely

964
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,660
ridiculous. 
The Jews have a right to self 

965
00:58:42,660 --> 00:58:45,960
determination. 
The Jews have a right to defend 

966
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:52,400
their ancestral homeland. 
They are the, the, it's so, you 

967
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,560
know, the most powerful 
decolonization story in world 

968
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,280
history is the Jewish people 
returning to their homeland. 

969
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,000
Oh, boy, they're going to clip 
this one like crazy. 

970
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:05,400
I can tell you that right now. 
But you know, it's true. 

971
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:09,680
It's reality that's there's no 
other way to put it. 

972
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:14,920
So those are some of the Bible 
passages I could give you just 

973
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,000
from the top of my head. 
I could give you several Bible 

974
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,720
passages that speak to these 
issues that you could go and 

975
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:27,120
study later because like this is
a subject that I could speak on 

976
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:29,360
forever. 
Often times people refer to me 

977
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:32,520
as, you know, this sort of 
subject matter expert in these 

978
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:34,200
areas. 
But let me just give you a few 

979
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,440
that you could write down and 
take a look at later. 

980
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,440
Genesis chapter 12, verses, one 
through 3. 

981
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:41,800
That's one that we quote all the
time. 

982
00:59:41,800 --> 00:59:44,840
Genesis chapter 15, starting in 
verse 18. 

983
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:51,480
Genesis chapter 17 verse verses 
7 through 8, Psalm one, 3213 

984
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,320
through 14. 
And by the way, I, I'm just 

985
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,880
going to say for every verse 
that I'm bringing up, there's 

986
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:58,320
probably 10 more that you can go
back and study. 

987
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:03,440
I just mentioned Isaiah chapter 
2 verses 2 through 3. 

988
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:07,440
How about this? 
Jeremiah 3135 through 37, You 

989
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:12,040
know, Jeremiah 31, God actually 
says this through Jeremiah. 

990
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:13,960
He says look at the sun and the 
moon and the stars. 

991
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,320
You see those? 
Those institutions, those 

992
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:20,480
ordinances, as long as they 
exist, I haven't turned my back 

993
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:22,640
on the people, my people, 
Israel. 

994
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:27,080
That's Jeremiah 3135, Ezekiel 
36. 

995
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:32,680
Now that is a powerful 1 verses 
22 on I think it's like 22 to 

996
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:36,240
like around verse 30, which 
deals with Israel's restoration 

997
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:40,760
and and God's faithfulness to 
his name and to his word. 

998
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,720
Zechariah, one of my favorite 
ones, Zechariah chapter 8, by 

999
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:47,160
the way, there's Zechariah 8, 
there's Zechariah 12, there's 

1000
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:50,440
Zechariah 14. 
Zechariah 12 talks about that in

1001
01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:53,760
the last days you're going to 
see the the whole world 

1002
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,560
centering around Jerusalem and 
God's going to destroy them. 

1003
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,640
If you read Zechariah 12 verse 
three, it talks about Jerusalem 

1004
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:06,240
being a cup of stumbling like a 
stumbling stone that it is a cup

1005
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:08,480
of drunkenness in essence to the
whole world. 

1006
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:11,280
And then and it says in verse 9 
that God will destroy the 

1007
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,880
enemies of Jerusalem. 
Romans Chapter 11, probably one 

1008
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,520
of my favorite New Testament 
passages go all throughout 

1009
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:20,400
Romans Chapter 11, verses one 
and two at the very beginning, 

1010
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:24,120
near the very end, verses 25, 
all the way through the end. 

1011
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:28,600
God has not castaway his people 
and his promises still remain. 

1012
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:33,160
The the bottom line is this you,
you're never going to be able to

1013
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,880
properly understand God's future
plan for Israel without 

1014
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:41,560
understanding his everlasting 
covenant with Abraham reiterated

1015
01:01:41,560 --> 01:01:45,960
through Isaac and Jacob. 
It's very clear and it's very 

1016
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,680
obvious. 
So there's a lot there. 

1017
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:52,840
It's loaded and we, we could 
spend hours talking about this 

1018
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,560
hours. 
Charlie and I did we we talked 

1019
01:01:54,560 --> 01:01:57,200
about this a lot. 
I know there's a lot of great 

1020
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,400
guys out there that are doing 
really good work in this area. 

1021
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:02,640
That are that are bringing it 
through. 

1022
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:05,760
As a matter of fact, Greg Denham
is is about to release a book on

1023
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:09,440
this that I think is going to be
like phenomenal because Greg is 

1024
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:10,080
just. 
Brilliant. 

1025
01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,720
But there's there's a lot of 
good people that are talking 

1026
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,120
about this and there's a lot of 
good work being done. 

1027
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:21,240
And so this is the answer to 
this question is very simple. 

1028
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:25,440
It's biblical, OK, It is 
biblical and being used 

1029
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,520
biblically, it speaks to so many
of the things that we're seeing 

1030
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,000
right now in the Bible actually 
predicted that this would that 

1031
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,440
this would happen, that the rise
in anti-Semitism in the last 

1032
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,320
days, what happened that 
Zechariah chapter 12. 

1033
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:38,920
And by the way, the rise of 
persecution of Christians, which

1034
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:41,960
is Second Timothy 3. 
We see it, it's all over, it's 

1035
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,320
happening, and none of it should
surprise us. 

1036
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:48,360
And that was loaded. 
No, no, no, it's good. 

1037
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,560
Our final Scripture question and
then we'll go to lifestyle 

1038
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:53,760
questions because have you guys 
started any lifestyle yet? 

1039
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:55,520
We just hit on one that's 
topical. 

1040
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:56,720
Yeah. 
So we're ready for those. 

1041
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:01,400
We'll, we'll snap over to those.
Andrea asks, is the passage 

1042
01:03:01,400 --> 01:03:06,600
about the rich man and Lazarus 
in Luke chapter 16, verses 19 

1043
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:10,880
through 31 considered a true 
event or a parable? 

1044
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:15,920
My husband and I debate on it. 
Not a true I don't believe it's 

1045
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,040
a true event. 
I believe that it was designed 

1046
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:24,680
to demonstrate a very particular
issue and I I. 

1047
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:27,360
Also, do not believe that this 
speaks of these. 

1048
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:32,560
Hidden compartments that exists,
I think that that's more 

1049
01:03:32,560 --> 01:03:35,880
mythologically based based on 
the culture that existed during 

1050
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:37,280
that time. 
Let me tell. 

1051
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:39,440
You what that what that passage 
is really about. 

1052
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,600
And it's it's very, very 
important because it creates a 

1053
01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:49,080
lot of confusion, OK? 
I don't think it's a historical 

1054
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,200
account. 
Jesus is using a familiar 

1055
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,640
picture to communicate a 
critical spiritual truth. 

1056
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:58,000
That's what's happening. 
OK, You have to look at the 

1057
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:03,600
context in verse 14 of Luke 16. 
I think that's where it is. 

1058
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,720
If you guys can look it up and 
tell me it it. 

1059
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,720
It actually tells us that the 
Pharisees were covetous. 

1060
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,360
That's the, that's the, the, 
the, the, the context here. 

1061
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:20,040
OK, they were mocking Jesus. 
So that's critical to 

1062
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,360
understanding why he ends up 
telling the story. 

1063
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:28,120
The rich man represents here the
very danger of trusting earthly 

1064
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:32,680
wealth and status or or even 
religious privilege, because 

1065
01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,200
that's something that the 
Pharisees all had tied to them. 

1066
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,320
The Pharisees assumed that their
position and their prosperity 

1067
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,840
were evidence of God's approval.
Now Lazarus represents someone 

1068
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:46,600
the world would actually 
consider to be insignificant. 

1069
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:50,480
Yet God sees these things very 
differently. 

1070
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:56,520
Abraham's bosom, well, I'm just 
going to say it. 

1071
01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:01,320
Abraham's bosom and the great 
gulf, as it's referred to, are a

1072
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,520
part of the imagery that's being
created here. 

1073
01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:06,680
Jesus is using that imagery for 
a reason. 

1074
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,320
I don't believe that we should 
build an entire doctrine of 

1075
01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,000
compartments in the afterlife. 
From the details of this 

1076
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,800
account, Abraham's bosom was a 
very accepted terminology for 

1077
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,960
the grave, OK, and often times 
would be referred to as heaven. 

1078
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:29,200
So the central issue that exists
here is the sufficiency that is 

1079
01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:32,560
provided by God's word. 
Look carefully at verse 29 of 

1080
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:36,120
Luke 16. 
It says they have Moses and the 

1081
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,840
prophets. 
Let them hear them. 

1082
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:42,960
OK, If you really look at this 
and I'm looking at the at the 

1083
01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:46,000
text right now, verse 31 is the 
climax here. 

1084
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,560
OK, if the, the, the the quote 
that's being said by Jesus is if

1085
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:54,600
they hear not Moses and the 
prophets, neither will they be 

1086
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:59,200
persuaded through one through 
through somebody who rose from 

1087
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,200
the dead. 
He's referring to himself in the

1088
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,040
future. 
Notice the the the significance 

1089
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,160
prophetically here. 
Jesus himself would rise from 

1090
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,160
the dead and many of these 
religious leaders were still 

1091
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,120
going to reject him. 
I'm getting too excited over 

1092
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,200
this because this is one that's 
been, it's kind of a big deal. 

1093
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,840
But, but here's the point. 
The problem wasn't that these 

1094
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:22,640
men lacked evidence, OK? 
That's not the problem here. 

1095
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,840
The problem was that they 
refused to believe what God had 

1096
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,960
already revealed. 
That's what Jesus is confronting

1097
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:29,920
here. 
And I do think there's an 

1098
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:33,520
important distinction, OK, a 
critical one, whether you 

1099
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,640
understand this parable as a 
literal event. 

1100
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,600
Jesus. 
The point that Jesus is making 

1101
01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,880
is the seriousness of judgment 
and the finality of death. 

1102
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:49,800
When somebody dies, that's it. 
And the necessity of responding 

1103
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,280
to God's word while we have the 
opportunity. 

1104
01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:57,920
It's that simple. 
Because when you die, it's too 

1105
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,800
late. 
You either made the decision or 

1106
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:02,400
you didn't. 
That's what the passage is 

1107
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,760
actually being. 
That's what the passage is 

1108
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,080
actually talking about. 
So many good. 

1109
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:11,920
It's controversial. 
So jumping up to lifestyle. 

1110
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,000
Our first questions coming from 
Darlene. 

1111
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,760
I grew up in a church where 
nobody raised their hands. 

1112
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,000
It doesn't feel natural to raise
my hands. 

1113
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,160
Now that I'm attending a 
different type of church, I do 

1114
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,840
understand it's biblical. 
Does that mean I'm not filled 

1115
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,040
with the Holy Spirit? 
This concerns me. 

1116
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,520
No, I'm not trying to laugh at 
your question, but you know, 

1117
01:07:32,120 --> 01:07:35,840
Calvary Chapel, you go to 
Calvary Chapel, everybody raises

1118
01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:38,280
their hands, you know, and they 
raise their hands for the, I've 

1119
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,240
been to Calvary. 
I, this is so sad. 

1120
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,440
I'm a Calvary Chapel pastor and 
I've actually made jokes about 

1121
01:07:44,440 --> 01:07:45,840
the way people raise their 
hands. 

1122
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,400
You have the, you know, the, 
they came from the club before 

1123
01:07:49,400 --> 01:07:51,520
they were a believer. 
They raise their hands this way.

1124
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,560
You've got, you've got people 
that raise their hands this way.

1125
01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,280
I see them. 
It's like, where in the world 

1126
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,000
did that come from? 
You've got the, you know, 

1127
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,880
Levante Sosmanos, you know, like
to lift. 

1128
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,360
I mean, you have one of those, 
you have those kind of people. 

1129
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:10,840
It's funny how they all do that.
And, and I, I, I'm, I'm very 

1130
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,040
emotional in many ways in my 
relationship with God. 

1131
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:15,360
I don't lift my hands. 
I just don't. 

1132
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:21,200
And, and, and I just, I want to 
say this like just very, very 

1133
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:23,720
clearly, I'm not being 
unbiblical, OK? 

1134
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,800
The raising of the hands speaks 
of surrender, OK? 

1135
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,560
The, the bigger issue is your 
heart. 

1136
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:36,680
OK, So, so let's talk about the,
the, the, the biblical authority

1137
01:08:36,680 --> 01:08:38,040
of this. 
By the way, darling, for the 

1138
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,520
record, OK, let me just say 
this. 

1139
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,200
Absolutely not, OK? 
Raising your hands is not 

1140
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,399
evidence that you're filled with
the Holy Spirit. 

1141
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:50,080
That's just crazy. 
Matter of fact, First Timothy 

1142
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:53,920
does speak about lifting your 
holy hands, lifting up holy 

1143
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:55,279
hands in prayer. 
It does. 

1144
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:02,080
OK, Psalm 63, he's probably even
referring to that, right? 

1145
01:09:02,399 --> 01:09:07,240
It's a biblical expression of 
surrender and humility in 

1146
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,439
worship, but it's not a 
requirement. 

1147
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,439
The bigger issue is the posture 
of your heart. 

1148
01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,640
Ephesians tells us in in chapter
5 to be filled with the Spirit. 

1149
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:24,240
And notice what follows Worship 
Thanksgiving is the next one and

1150
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,200
submission to one another and 
the Lord. 

1151
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,720
I believe Galatians chapter 5 
talks about the fruit of the 

1152
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:31,600
Spirit. 
None of that is lifting up your 

1153
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:34,479
hands. 
OK, so God is concerned with 

1154
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,279
your heart. 
He's not concerned necessarily 

1155
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:40,920
with your physical posture. 
He's concerned with your 

1156
01:09:40,920 --> 01:09:45,240
internal posture. 
So you can raise your hands and 

1157
01:09:45,240 --> 01:09:47,240
have a heart that's completely 
far from God. 

1158
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:49,960
I'm telling you, I've seen some 
people in my church raise their 

1159
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:52,000
hands and I'm telling you 
they're not raising their hands 

1160
01:09:52,000 --> 01:09:53,760
because their heart is is close 
to God. 

1161
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,880
I've seen some of them folks, 
you know, they just do it for 

1162
01:09:57,880 --> 01:09:59,640
the show. 
It's a terrible thing to say and

1163
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:03,840
I'm not God, but it's bad. 
You, you, you're not going to 

1164
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,360
raise your hands and surrender 
to God while you're sleeping 

1165
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:08,800
with your girlfriend and ripping
off your employer. 

1166
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,600
That's it's just probably you're
probably not. 

1167
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,760
It's that's thanks. 
So I know plenty of people that 

1168
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,720
do that and they're not 
spiritual. 

1169
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,520
So don't feel pressure to 
imitate what everybody else is 

1170
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:20,960
doing. 
As a matter of fact, people have

1171
01:10:20,960 --> 01:10:23,560
often times referred to me as 
I'm hard hearted or whatever 

1172
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:25,160
because I'm not, I'm in the 
middle of the crowd. 

1173
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:27,720
I've been to pastors conferences
where I haven't raised my hands 

1174
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:30,200
and everybody else has. 
I'm like, OK, well, I, I'm not 

1175
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,360
doing that. 
I, I just don't, I, that's not 

1176
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:35,000
me. 
It just, it just isn't. 

1177
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,680
I get it. 
I used to, I used to remember, 

1178
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:41,320
you remember this, Erica, we 
used to sit in in in church 

1179
01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:43,760
services, you know, like we're, 
we're seeing the midst of it. 

1180
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,760
We're like, oh, wow, this is 
kind of this is getting weird, 

1181
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:52,120
you know, So just remember this.
I just remember this being 

1182
01:10:52,120 --> 01:10:57,440
filled with the Holy Spirit is 
it's not measured by how high 

1183
01:10:57,440 --> 01:11:01,560
you raise your hands, OK. 
It's measured by how completely 

1184
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:02,800
you surrender your life to the 
Lord. 

1185
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:04,320
And we have biblical. 
Precedent for that. 

1186
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:06,160
I think that's the most 
important aspect of this. 

1187
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:07,800
Amen. 
I love that. 

1188
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:10,000
Our next question is from 
Caitlin. 

1189
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,120
She says I lost my mom last year
to stage 4 appendix cancer. 

1190
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:18,160
At that time I was seven months 
pregnant with my first child. 

1191
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,640
After her passing, she visited 
me in my dreams, sent Cardinals,

1192
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,600
white butterflies, ladybugs, her
initials on a license plate, 

1193
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,960
even told me that my son would 
be born on August 13th, which he

1194
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:31,320
was. 
I find comfort in those things 

1195
01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:34,000
because I know she is still 
around guiding me, especially as

1196
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,440
I navigated becoming a mom 
without my mom. 

1197
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:39,800
Lately, I've been seeing videos 
that our loved ones do not 

1198
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:43,960
communicate, send us signs, or 
visit us that those are dark 

1199
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,160
spirits, Satan using our 
vulnerabilities as weapons. 

1200
01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:51,560
My rationale is that those signs
or messages bring me closer to 

1201
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:56,280
God, not farther. 
Especially when I receiving 

1202
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,640
those little signs to get me 
through my day. 

1203
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,520
It provides me reassurance that 
there is a bridge between heaven

1204
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:04,240
and earth. 
Also brings me comfort knowing 

1205
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:05,960
my mom still hears me and sees 
me. 

1206
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,920
Curious to know what you guys 
think or what the Bible says 

1207
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:13,320
about this. 
OK, so I lean towards the idea 

1208
01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:17,680
that there's nobody that that 
revisits here on earth from the 

1209
01:12:17,680 --> 01:12:20,360
dead. 
With that said that there is a 

1210
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:25,160
there is a caveat that I have to
throw out and I and I think that

1211
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,160
this is. 
Like. 

1212
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,560
So important. 
OK. 

1213
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,320
Well, let let me just. 
Say this because I, I think I 

1214
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:37,400
get so used to the mechanical 
side of this that I don't really

1215
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:41,720
acknowledge the bigger issue. 
And that is I am very sorry 

1216
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:45,320
about the loss of your mom. 
I, I actually know what it feels

1217
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:51,920
like to lose a mom and a dad and
then not be able to meet my 

1218
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,680
children. 
All four of my children never 

1219
01:12:55,680 --> 01:13:01,320
met my mom and two of my 
children, 311 of my children, 

1220
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,840
one child No 2, two of my 
children didn't get did not get 

1221
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:08,720
to meet my dad. 
Here's what I want you to 

1222
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:15,840
understand the the Bible doesn't
teach that our departed loved 

1223
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,160
ones are returned to communicate
with us through dreams or 

1224
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:23,680
animals or or signs. 
OK, Hebrews Chapter 9 says it's 

1225
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:28,560
appointed to man wants to die, 
but after this the judgement and

1226
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:35,160
then we see that when that 
happens, it's that's the way it 

1227
01:13:35,160 --> 01:13:43,120
is now here's where I want to be
careful it's very. 

1228
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:49,760
Easy to conflate those moments 
that you see with being your 

1229
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:53,280
mother within the context. 
Of. 

1230
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:59,680
How clearly obvious the sign is 
that just happened that brings 

1231
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,600
you? 
Comfort I'm going to argue 

1232
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:07,920
things a little bit differently 
and Erica remind me offline when

1233
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,320
we have a chance. 
I got to talk to you about 

1234
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:11,200
something. 
I just it remind me of something

1235
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:12,960
slightly. 
I got you. 

1236
01:14:18,480 --> 01:14:23,840
I believe this and I think that 
I can prove it to a degree. 

1237
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:29,280
I'm a matter of fact, I'm almost
certain I can prove it to a 

1238
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,120
degree. 
Even biblically, I believe that 

1239
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:36,720
the signs you're talking about 
may very well be the God of 

1240
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:42,760
heaven that allowed you to 
experience those things that 

1241
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:46,680
there's no way they can be like 
some random thing. 

1242
01:14:47,680 --> 01:14:49,760
Maybe God put that in your 
dream. 

1243
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:54,080
Maybe at the right moment you 
saw something that perfectly 

1244
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:59,040
lines up, and I actually think 
that that's something far more 

1245
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:04,080
important and far more critical 
than your mom coming back from 

1246
01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:09,520
this divide into what we call 
the mortal and the immortal. 

1247
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,880
First of all, let me just tell 
you this about my own mom and my

1248
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,080
dad. 
My mom and my dad, if you paid 

1249
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,440
them, would never come back to 
this earth. 

1250
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:22,000
They love heaven. 
I know that they love heaven 

1251
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,360
because their whole life they 
longed to be in heaven. 

1252
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:28,240
So they're not coming back. 
They wouldn't want to come back.

1253
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:32,280
They're experiencing joy and 
they're experiencing peace and 

1254
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:35,040
they're experiencing happiness. 
They're experiencing all the 

1255
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,240
wonderful things that go with 
heaven. 

1256
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,160
But I do believe, I really do 
believe this. 

1257
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:44,520
I do believe that God will 
establish these types of things 

1258
01:15:44,840 --> 01:15:50,080
to show you that not only are 
you OK and you're in his hands, 

1259
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:52,520
but your loved 1 is OK and it's 
his hands. 

1260
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,800
So I don't think they're coming 
from your loved one. 

1261
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,320
I think they're probably coming 
from the Lord. 

1262
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:03,000
And, and I know that that gets 
met with some controversy when 

1263
01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:06,200
that's actually being said, but 
I think the God of heaven deals 

1264
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:07,640
that way. 
OK? 

1265
01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:11,600
I think that there, I think that
there's a very critical 

1266
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:16,080
distinction between God 
comforting us and our departed 

1267
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,480
loved ones communicating with 
us. 

1268
01:16:17,480 --> 01:16:18,960
And I think that God is 
comforting us. 

1269
01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,920
Look, you want me to prove it 
biblically? 

1270
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,480
Second Corinthians, probably one
of my favorite ones, Chapter 1, 

1271
01:16:23,480 --> 01:16:27,720
the Father of mercies, the God 
of all comfort who comforted us.

1272
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:32,600
Notice this in all our 
tribulations, James 117 tells us

1273
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:34,400
that every good and perfect gift
comes from the Lord. 

1274
01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:37,520
If you saw something beautiful 
that came to remind you of that,

1275
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,280
I think it's totally the Lord. 
Matthew, chapter 10. 

1276
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:45,280
Go back and read Matthew chapter
10 by the way, when you get near

1277
01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,480
the verse 29, it actually 
reminds us that God is 

1278
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,320
intimately involved in the 
smallest details of our lives. 

1279
01:16:55,480 --> 01:16:58,280
Matter of fact, earlier in 
Matthew chapter 6 on the Sermon 

1280
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:04,000
on the Mount, if, if Jesus makes
it very, very clear, if God 

1281
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:07,600
takes care of the birds that are
worthless and the leaves of the 

1282
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,400
grass, the, the, the blades of 
the grass, how much more is he 

1283
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,080
taking care of us? 
So I do believe that God can 

1284
01:17:15,080 --> 01:17:18,440
arrange circumstances and 
reminders and even a dream to 

1285
01:17:18,440 --> 01:17:23,120
cover someone who's grieving. 
He's God, he's God. 

1286
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,320
So I think that I think that 
that's really, really important.

1287
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,120
Now, I'm not going to always, 
you know, attribute it to that 

1288
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,000
type of thing. 
It could just be something that 

1289
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,720
happened all of a sudden that 
God allowed to happen that you 

1290
01:17:35,720 --> 01:17:38,640
could be comforted with. 
I think the most important 

1291
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,800
distinction is this your, your 
mom doesn't need to crossover 

1292
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,200
from heaven to comfort you. 
The Lord himself is perfectly 

1293
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:49,880
capable of doing it and appears 
he has been doing it by making 

1294
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,240
himself known to you by showing 
you some of these things. 

1295
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:56,560
So with that said, I would 
encourage you to thank the Lord 

1296
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,440
for the comfort that you've 
experienced. 

1297
01:17:58,440 --> 01:18:03,480
I think it came from Him. 
And by the way, let me also help

1298
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:05,800
you out with something that will
be really, really cool. 

1299
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:10,720
Look for continued communication
with the Lord because he's the 

1300
01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:12,440
one taking care of your Mama 
right now. 

1301
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,600
So your confidence belongs in 
his promises. 

1302
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:19,560
You're going to be there with 
her one day. 

1303
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:21,920
It's exciting. 
OK. 

1304
01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:24,720
And and and the signs 
themselves, Yeah, they, they 

1305
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:26,160
work, they're nice, they're 
cool. 

1306
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,200
But you have something to look 
forward to. 

1307
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:34,920
And I would tell you that God is
is without a doubt, God is very 

1308
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:39,080
likely saying I've got you and 
I've got your mom and you got 

1309
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:40,480
nothing to worry about. 
And I'm with you. 

1310
01:18:40,920 --> 01:18:42,640
And one day you will be reunited
with your mom. 

1311
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:45,440
And one day you will come back 
on this earth as Revelation 

1312
01:18:45,440 --> 01:18:47,360
describes. 
And that's going to be crazy. 

1313
01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,960
But the reality of it is you're 
with your mom is with the Lord 

1314
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,160
and you can find peace in that. 
And I think that's where this 

1315
01:18:54,160 --> 01:18:55,680
where this really becomes 
important. 

1316
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:01,360
Amen. 
Our next question is on the same

1317
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,520
topic of heaven. 
So this one comes from Carolyn. 

1318
01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,680
There's a lot of stories about 
near death experiences with 

1319
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:09,960
vivid descriptions of heaven. 
What should we think about the 

1320
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:12,400
validity of this? 
What does the Bible say about 

1321
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:15,880
this? 
I think some of them are very 

1322
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:20,400
valid, and I think that we have 
biblical precedent for the 

1323
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:23,440
validity of those things. 
You know, Paul was able to see 

1324
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:26,440
heaven. 
Where I don't think where I 

1325
01:19:26,440 --> 01:19:31,200
don't think I am a big fan of 
these stories is when they come 

1326
01:19:31,200 --> 01:19:34,200
back and they, and they tell us 
all kinds of things about what 

1327
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:39,480
they saw and so on and so forth.
I think that it's, it's a bit 

1328
01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:42,880
crazy. 
I, I, I offended somebody at the

1329
01:19:42,880 --> 01:19:44,240
church. 
They're wonderful people. 

1330
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,360
They didn't leave over it, but 
they they came to me telling me 

1331
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:48,200
about this, You know, Heaven is 
for real book. 

1332
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:50,480
And this was years ago. 
They're like, James, this book 

1333
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:51,880
is amazing. 
We want you to read it. 

1334
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:54,440
We want you to read it. 
And, and, and so they bought it 

1335
01:19:54,440 --> 01:19:57,600
for me. 
They gave it to me and they came

1336
01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:59,680
back to me a few months later 
because I hadn't said anything. 

1337
01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:01,040
They said. 
What do you think of the book? 

1338
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:04,560
We we think it was great. 
And you know, being the harsh 

1339
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,360
person that I can be sometimes, 
I said, hey, I think the book 

1340
01:20:07,360 --> 01:20:09,720
was amazing. 
What was your favorite part 

1341
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:11,640
about it? 
Well, the fact that I could take

1342
01:20:11,640 --> 01:20:14,600
it to my workbench at home and 
use it as a drill stop for my 

1343
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:18,480
drill press and you know they. 
Were my gosh, they're probably 

1344
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:20,760
horrified. 
Well, yeah, they were offended 

1345
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:23,880
at the at the offset. 
I did use it as a as a drill 

1346
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,480
stop for the drill press. 
But the but what I try to 

1347
01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:29,800
explain to them is this second 
Corinthians chapter 12 gives us 

1348
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,560
everything that we need to know 
The apostle Paul, who was 

1349
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,560
arguably one of the most 
articulate men who had ever 

1350
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:39,920
lived on the face of the earth. 
If you want to read complex 

1351
01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,320
Hebrew, I mean complex Greek, go
to the book of Hebrews. 

1352
01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,920
He is by far one of the most 
articulate men alive, said that 

1353
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,960
it would be illegal to describe 
what he had seen. 

1354
01:20:50,640 --> 01:20:55,360
So if you see examples like 
that, John of course, was given 

1355
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,440
a very genuine revelation of 
heaven. 

1356
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:02,040
We see it. 
And God actually preserved that 

1357
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:05,320
account in the Bible. 
So there's a lot of very 

1358
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,640
important considerations. 
People from different 

1359
01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:11,160
backgrounds have these near 
death experiences and their 

1360
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,760
descriptions, they they 
contradict one another. 

1361
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:17,120
They cannot all be accurate 
representations of the same 

1362
01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,160
reality. 
So the Bible tells us to test 

1363
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:22,200
everything, right? 
The Bible says believe not every

1364
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,400
spirit, but try the spirits, 
whether they have God. 

1365
01:21:24,600 --> 01:21:28,480
So with that said, I don't have 
a problem believing that God 

1366
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:32,080
could give somebody an 
extraordinary experience. 

1367
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,720
I have a problem when people 
start treating those experiences

1368
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,440
as authoritative revelations 
about heaven, because they're 

1369
01:21:39,440 --> 01:21:42,680
not the authoritative 
revelations that we have are in 

1370
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,280
the Bible. 
And that's what we have to go by

1371
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:47,680
now. 
I don't need someone who claims 

1372
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:52,640
to have died and come back to 
tell me heaven is real, OK? 

1373
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:54,880
Jesus died. 
He rose again. 

1374
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,320
He told us everything that we 
need to know. 

1375
01:21:58,200 --> 01:22:00,040
That's the testimony that we 
trust. 

1376
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,400
Do I believe that these near 
death experiences are real? 

1377
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,320
Absolutely. 
Do I believe people have 

1378
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:11,400
legitimate biblically based 
visions, glimpses of heaven? 

1379
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,560
Absolutely. 
Have I even met people who have 

1380
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,120
had them? 
Absolutely. 

1381
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,280
But in every one of those 
contexts, their response has 

1382
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:21,120
been very much the same as the 
Apostle Paul. 

1383
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,920
Yeah, I had this happen to me. 
I can't even describe it. 

1384
01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:26,560
Here's the best way to identify 
what I'm talking about. 

1385
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,360
And this is what the Apostle 
Paul meant when he said this. 

1386
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,360
There's a story that I read 
about recently, and the story's 

1387
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:35,280
remarkable, actually. 
Now it's it's a couple of years 

1388
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:42,680
old, but it was of a young woman
who had a little baby and they 

1389
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:46,760
found out that the baby from 
birth was blind. 

1390
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:52,440
And so she was probably in her, 
I think the tail end of her 

1391
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:56,720
fifth year on this earth. 
And the doctor goes to the mom 

1392
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:01,440
and the dad and says, look, 
we've changed some technology in

1393
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:06,320
modern day neurological science 
and I am convinced we can 

1394
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:11,120
restore your daughter's vision. 
Now here are the here are the 

1395
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:14,320
the risks. 
You've got this, you've got 

1396
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:17,720
that. 
There's a brain danger. 

1397
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,560
There's some things we're doing.
It's kind of risky. 

1398
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,120
Talk it over with your wife, 
don't talk it over with your 

1399
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:28,040
daughter. 
Figure out what you want to do. 

1400
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,640
We're already concerned about 
the emotional effects is going 

1401
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:34,480
to have on your daughter. 
So wife goes back to husband, 

1402
01:23:34,480 --> 01:23:36,440
husband goes back to wife. 
They talk about this, they 

1403
01:23:36,440 --> 01:23:39,280
decide this is we want our we 
want our girl to have, we want 

1404
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:44,080
our baby to have vision. 
So they have the surgery. 

1405
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:49,640
The surgery is successful. 
The doctor says we need to find 

1406
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:54,840
a nice neutral place that isn't 
too overstimulating to take the 

1407
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,240
blinds off of your daughter for 
the first time. 

1408
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:01,840
We think it should be the park. 
We're going to make arrangements

1409
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,320
for nobody to be in the park 
because we don't want her to be 

1410
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,400
alarmed because this will be the
first time she ever sees 

1411
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,760
anything. 
And we think we should either 

1412
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,440
have your pastor or some kind of
a psychologist to be there by 

1413
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:13,960
the child. 
Parents are like, what in the 

1414
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:15,760
world? 
Like, you know what in the 

1415
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,720
world? 
OK, little Side Story here. 

1416
01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:24,920
The daughter had an agreement 
with her mom when from a very, 

1417
01:24:24,920 --> 01:24:29,240
very young age that anything 
that she couldn't see that she 

1418
01:24:29,240 --> 01:24:34,000
wanted a description of, the mom
would do her best to give her 

1419
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:36,560
daughter the description so that
she could imagine it. 

1420
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:39,200
Well, imagine never seeing 
anything. 

1421
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:41,240
You've never seen anything your 
whole life. 

1422
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:44,720
You, you can't. 
It's very difficult to create an

1423
01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:46,480
imagination. 
And This is why the doctors 

1424
01:24:46,480 --> 01:24:47,920
wanted the psychologist there or
whatever. 

1425
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,400
They take the blinds off this 
girl and she's sitting on the 

1426
01:24:51,400 --> 01:24:53,920
park bench and all, she's 
looking at his grass. 

1427
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:58,120
That's it. 
And she starts losing her mind. 

1428
01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:04,240
She starts crying profusely. 
She starts uncontrollably 

1429
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:06,440
sobbing. 
And they try to like, get her to

1430
01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:08,320
calm down. 
She doesn't calm down for 

1431
01:25:08,320 --> 01:25:10,360
probably the better part of 3 to
5 minutes. 

1432
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:15,440
Finally, when she calms down, 
she looks to her mom and she 

1433
01:25:15,440 --> 01:25:20,480
says, Mom, how in the world 
could you not describe this to 

1434
01:25:20,480 --> 01:25:23,520
me? 
Well, mom is very confused. 

1435
01:25:23,520 --> 01:25:25,080
Like I described everything to 
you. 

1436
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:27,400
I did everything that I could to
describe. 

1437
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,840
I described all these things. 
But here's the question. 

1438
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,760
How in the world do you describe
to a little girl what green 

1439
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:37,920
looks like that's never seen? 
How do you describe to a little 

1440
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,320
girl what blue looks like who's 
never seen blue? 

1441
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:43,880
How do you describe to a girl 
what the sky looks like in 

1442
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,000
contrast from the day to the 
night? 

1443
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:49,960
How do you tell little girl 
who's never seen what a what a 

1444
01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:52,840
what green grass looks like? 
She looked at it. 

1445
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:56,400
She had never laid her eyes on 
anything like it before, and her

1446
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:01,120
brain was just on overload 
because she could not even 

1447
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,080
articulate. 
She couldn't associate what she 

1448
01:26:04,080 --> 01:26:07,960
had seen, which are the things 
we take for granted, with her. 

1449
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:11,200
Even with with even her 
vocabulary, she wouldn't know 

1450
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,560
how to match up green with what 
she's looking at. 

1451
01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:16,640
That's what the Apostle Paul 
meant when he basically said it 

1452
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,680
would be illegal for him to 
describe what he saw in heaven. 

1453
01:26:18,920 --> 01:26:22,440
What he saw in heaven was 
nothing like nothing like 

1454
01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:23,760
anything he'd ever seen on 
earth. 

1455
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,160
So he couldn't, in human words, 
articulate things that we as 

1456
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:31,800
humans have never seen. 
Where's the word for that? 

1457
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,520
Like, it doesn't make sense. 
And even if I did come up with a

1458
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,480
God word, how do you translate 
that into understanding 

1459
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:40,560
something you've never seen? 
It's hard to describe. 

1460
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:44,200
That's the point here. 
And that's why when people come 

1461
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,040
and tell me all these 
descriptions, I'm like, yeah, 

1462
01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:47,920
hogwash. 
Like that. 

1463
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,480
It just, it just doesn't work. 
So that's the picture. 

1464
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:53,240
Hopefully that helps to 
understand the sort of the 

1465
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:55,880
linguistic relationship there in
in that picture. 

1466
01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,480
That's great. 
Do you want to, do you want to 

1467
01:26:59,480 --> 01:27:02,160
do the William question? 
And then we'll save Barbara for 

1468
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:03,400
later. 
And then we'll close out in 

1469
01:27:03,440 --> 01:27:06,440
prayer. 
Absolutely, Absolutely so, 

1470
01:27:06,440 --> 01:27:08,600
William says. 
I'm wrestling with how to 

1471
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,400
approach the LGBTQ community. 
Back in June, there was a Gay 

1472
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:15,120
Pride Month where these groups 
were given a large platform to 

1473
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:16,880
celebrate their sexuality 
publicly. 

1474
01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,080
Professional sports leagues like
MLB hosted Pride Night where 

1475
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,600
players wear rainbow hats in 
support of those in support and 

1476
01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,440
those who refused were labeled 
as not inclusive or bigoted. 

1477
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,840
Please help me understand what 
to say to my friends and family 

1478
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:32,320
who are supporters of this 
community and genuinely coming 

1479
01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,600
from a good place when they ask 
me my views on the subject. 

1480
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:39,560
Yeah, I hate to say this, I 
refuse to call them a community.

1481
01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,600
I, I call them a movement and 
there's a reason for that. 

1482
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:48,000
I just, I just leave that alone,
kind of like a bowel movement. 

1483
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:50,160
I probably shouldn't have said 
that, but that's the reality of 

1484
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:52,320
it. 
And, and I don't mind saying it 

1485
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:56,360
because it's, it's hugely 
destructive here. 

1486
01:27:56,360 --> 01:27:59,280
Here's, here's, here's what I 
want everybody to understand 

1487
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:02,560
here, OK. 
When you deal with people who 

1488
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:09,360
are openly and adamantly against
the God of our fathers, there, 

1489
01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:14,320
there's no there. 
There should be no compromise. 

1490
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,440
OK? 
The the first thing that I would

1491
01:28:17,440 --> 01:28:21,840
say is you, you need to 
distinguish between loving 

1492
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:25,480
people and affirming their 
behavior, and they're 2 

1493
01:28:25,480 --> 01:28:27,640
completely. 
Different things, OK? 

1494
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:30,880
The Bible is is a book of 
distinctions. 

1495
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,200
Charlie used to say this all the
time and they hated Charlie for 

1496
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,680
this. 
I will just leave that be. 

1497
01:28:37,480 --> 01:28:41,120
Genesis 127 What did God do? 
He created mankind, male and 

1498
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,240
female. 
By the way, XXXY, there is no 

1499
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,960
other. 
This one bothers me. 

1500
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:54,360
Genesis 2, 24 establishes God's 
design for XX and XY. 

1501
01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:57,680
OK, marriage between man and a 
woman. 

1502
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,240
It's that simple. 
And by the way, don't anybody 

1503
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:04,080
sit down and lecture me about 
gender or the use of gender, 

1504
01:29:04,280 --> 01:29:08,400
because the, even the functional
mitigation of that term is, is 

1505
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:14,120
is relatively sustained by how 
language affirmation works 

1506
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,920
within the context of a 
particular mechanism that very 

1507
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,400
few people understand unless 
they understand the language by 

1508
01:29:19,400 --> 01:29:21,280
which it's communicated. 
So don't come to me. 

1509
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:25,360
And like, well, gender is this 
and we that's just ignorant 

1510
01:29:25,480 --> 01:29:30,000
nonsense that you learn at 
brainwashing centers called 

1511
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,880
academia. 
They teach you to become stupid.

1512
01:29:34,000 --> 01:29:36,400
I'm going to leave that be. 
And I know it's going to make 

1513
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:40,000
people mad, but that's just the 
way the reason why we're in the 

1514
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:42,920
trouble that we're in right now 
is because pastors continue to 

1515
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:45,400
shut their mouths about this 
stuff and they should be 

1516
01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,200
talking. 
And by the way, can I just say 

1517
01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:48,440
this? 
Forgive me for getting on a 

1518
01:29:48,440 --> 01:29:50,440
soapbox, but I'm, I am, I am 
going to say this. 

1519
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:54,400
I want to, I want to point this 
out, the reason why we're in the

1520
01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,280
mess that we're in right now in 
this country is because pastors 

1521
01:29:57,280 --> 01:30:00,000
continue to be cowards about 
talking about what's what, what 

1522
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,920
is the truth. 
I just talked to somebody the 

1523
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,200
other day that says, well, I'm 
not going to vote for Steve 

1524
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:05,360
Hilton. 
I'm not going to talk about it 

1525
01:30:05,360 --> 01:30:08,600
in my church here in California 
because of that stupid ad that 

1526
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:10,120
Steve put out. 
It was kind of dumb. 

1527
01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,040
But here's my thing. 
If you don't want to vote for 

1528
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:17,080
Steve Hilton, just get used to 
hearing these words and Salat to

1529
01:30:17,080 --> 01:30:20,840
hide on Milena Muhammad Allah, 
because that's what you're going

1530
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:24,560
to be hearing every single 
morning when the Muslims open up

1531
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:28,600
in prayer from their mosques, 
forcing you by Sharia law to 

1532
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,280
respond. 
That's reality. 

1533
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:36,960
And in case anybody hasn't seen,
the Muslims right now are using 

1534
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:43,840
literally using the tools that 
our founding fathers gave us to 

1535
01:30:43,880 --> 01:30:47,120
assimilate. 
They are using those tools to 

1536
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:51,320
take over, which is why every 
single Christian ought to get 

1537
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:55,960
out there and vote and vote 
conservatively along biblical 

1538
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:58,520
lines. 
That's why I am absolutely 

1539
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,640
screaming in California asking 
people to vote for Steve Hilton.

1540
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:06,360
If you, if you are in an area 
where Saeed is, my goodness, do 

1541
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,120
not vote for him. 
Do not vote for Telefreco. 

1542
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:14,680
I'm, I'm sorry, I'm not trying 
to be crazy here, but pastors 

1543
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,920
have to open their mouths and 
they have to talk about this. 

1544
01:31:18,440 --> 01:31:23,800
And, and I hate to say this, 
like it, it drives me nuts. 

1545
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:27,080
And there is a massive emotional
component of this. 

1546
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:32,480
Charlie got killed doing what 
pastors should have done. 

1547
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,920
He shouldn't have to have been 
the person doing it. 

1548
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,960
That was my responsibility. 
That's the responsibility of 

1549
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,960
pastors in the ministry. 
So with that said, God created 

1550
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:49,520
male and female. 
OK, Romans addresses this, First

1551
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,080
Corinthians addresses it. 
Sexual immorality. 

1552
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,920
It's a sin, yes. 
And yes, there are different 

1553
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,800
grades of sin. 
I'm not even going to get into 

1554
01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,720
that. 
What's important is we don't get

1555
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:04,360
to redefine what God calls sin 
simply because the culture has 

1556
01:32:04,360 --> 01:32:07,000
changed its position. 
We don't get to do that. 

1557
01:32:09,080 --> 01:32:13,000
Every person is created in the 
likeness and in the image of 

1558
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:16,200
God. 
We have no biblical 

1559
01:32:16,200 --> 01:32:21,560
justification for treating 
somebody with a cruelness or a 

1560
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:23,640
contempt because we disagree 
with them. 

1561
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,160
Charlie was a great example of 
that. 

1562
01:32:25,240 --> 01:32:27,640
He put the mic down. 
He dialogue with people. 

1563
01:32:27,760 --> 01:32:32,440
So I am not asking for people to
be belligerent, but Ephesians 

1564
01:32:32,440 --> 01:32:34,480
tells us to speak the truth in 
love. 

1565
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:38,600
It means we don't compromise the
truth and we don't abandoned 

1566
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,320
what real love is. 
And by the way, love is not 

1567
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:42,760
love. 
God is love. 

1568
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,800
So you can, you can respect 
someone's freedom to make their 

1569
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,560
own choices without being 
required to celebrate those 

1570
01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:51,960
choices. 
God does. 

1571
01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:54,400
Those are two entirely different
things. 

1572
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:58,200
When somebody asks you what you 
believe, I'm telling you right 

1573
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,680
now, I'm begging you, be 
straightforward. 

1574
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:05,200
Say something to the effect of 
you know, I believe the Bible 

1575
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:08,720
teaches this about marriage and 
sexuality. 

1576
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:12,200
You should say that. 
That doesn't mean I hate you. 

1577
01:33:12,200 --> 01:33:14,800
It certainly doesn't mean I 
don't care about you. 

1578
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,480
It means my convictions come 
from God's Word. 

1579
01:33:17,480 --> 01:33:19,360
Why? 
Because if you really love them,

1580
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,320
you'll tell them the truth. 
Tell me this. 

1581
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:27,200
Have you ever met anybody who 
was happy that came from the 

1582
01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:29,040
trans community? 
I've never met one. 

1583
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:32,760
I've talked to hundreds of them.
I've never met one not not one 

1584
01:33:32,760 --> 01:33:36,960
that was truly happy. 
It's and it's, it's, it's a sad 

1585
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:39,160
thing to say because it's 
destructive. 

1586
01:33:40,360 --> 01:33:44,080
Our responsibility isn't to win 
a cultural argument. 

1587
01:33:44,080 --> 01:33:48,400
It's it's to faithfully 
represent Christ to the world 

1588
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:50,040
and allow him to change the 
culture. 

1589
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,520
That's what we have to do. 
We're called the love people 

1590
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:55,640
without compromising our 
biblical convictions. 

1591
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,560
The fact that we've compromised 
our biblical convictions is the 

1592
01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:01,800
reason why we're here right now 
in this country. 

1593
01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:05,920
Truth without Love Actually 
becomes cruelty. 

1594
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:09,240
That's, that's what it is. 
So if you're going to love 

1595
01:34:09,320 --> 01:34:12,200
without truth, I can tell you 
this right now, you have no 

1596
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:14,880
biblical love there. 
And that's there's, there's no 

1597
01:34:14,880 --> 01:34:18,160
love there. 
So with that said, we have an 

1598
01:34:18,160 --> 01:34:22,480
obligation as the pastors to 
educate you well to, to so that 

1599
01:34:22,480 --> 01:34:25,160
you will understand this. 
Unfortunately, there's not a lot

1600
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,880
of people in ministry anymore 
that are doing this. 

1601
01:34:27,880 --> 01:34:31,240
And don't get me wrong, there is
a good strong remnant and I know

1602
01:34:31,240 --> 01:34:34,960
lots of men that are being 
bowled and standing up, but we 

1603
01:34:34,960 --> 01:34:38,800
wouldn't have this problem. 
You guys realize that if we 

1604
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:46,680
increased voting by 5% in the 
Christian world, we would win 

1605
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:48,200
virtually every race in this 
country. 

1606
01:34:48,640 --> 01:34:50,080
That's the number that I'm 
hearing now. 

1607
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:55,840
It's crazy. 55% of the people in
this country that vote identify 

1608
01:34:55,840 --> 01:35:00,120
themselves as being believers. 
Like, explain maybe, maybe they 

1609
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:01,760
don't vote. 
Maybe it's 55% of the whole 

1610
01:35:01,760 --> 01:35:03,280
population. 
It's 55% of the whole 

1611
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,480
population. 
But imagine if that translated 

1612
01:35:05,480 --> 01:35:07,320
into voting. 
I don't know how this 

1613
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:09,120
conversation turned into voting,
but yeah, but I. 

1614
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,920
Think they all relate. 
I need to find this. 

1615
01:35:14,440 --> 01:35:20,640
There is a someone sent me a 
statistic of the amount of 

1616
01:35:20,640 --> 01:35:23,280
Muslims that get out to vote. 
Oh my gosh, it's going to drive 

1617
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:25,080
me nuts while Kate asked this 
question. 

1618
01:35:25,160 --> 01:35:27,000
Oh yeah, did you see that 
statistic? 

1619
01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,360
Oh, yeah, The stat of the amount
of Muslims. 

1620
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,240
Yeah. 
And by the way, it's really 

1621
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,840
interesting because Glenn Beck 
bought attention to this. 

1622
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,440
It's what kind of motivated me 
is that when I saw this. 

1623
01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:38,240
And it's. 
It's absolutely true. 

1624
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:39,440
Maybe it may have come from 
Glenn. 

1625
01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:40,640
I don't know. 
But. 

1626
01:35:41,440 --> 01:35:43,560
I'm trying to find it. 
Can you, can you find can you? 

1627
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:46,360
I'm trying to read that 
statistically because it's one 

1628
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:50,560
of those things where I, I want,
I want Christians to understand 

1629
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:55,320
like the importance of voting. 
And because some are like, Oh, 

1630
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:57,600
that's not, you know, it's, I'm 
not going to do that because I'm

1631
01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:00,240
Christian and I'm just going to 
pray for God to do blah, blah, 

1632
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,840
blah. 
And they remove their Gosh, I 

1633
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:05,720
can't find. 
OK, watch this, watch this. 

1634
01:36:05,720 --> 01:36:07,240
Let me let me read you some of 
these numbers. 

1635
01:36:07,320 --> 01:36:12,920
OK, watch this. 
Verified numbers 85%. 

1636
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:19,800
This is scary. 85% of eligible 
American Muslims were registered

1637
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:30,960
to vote in 2025. 
That's up 60% from 2016. 80% of 

1638
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:37,120
the registered Muslim voters 
reported voting in the 2024 

1639
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,520
presidential election. 
Yeah, by the way, this is the 

1640
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,760
Institute for Social Policy and 
Understanding Care reported. 

1641
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:53,400
Listen to this 86.2% 
participation in its 2024 

1642
01:36:53,400 --> 01:37:00,880
National Muslim Voter Survey, 
92.8% among its respondents in 

1643
01:37:00,880 --> 01:37:03,480
Michigan. 
Think about what's happening in 

1644
01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:09,880
Michigan right now. 
That is crazy. 

1645
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,400
That is crazy. 
And if you think about it, the 

1646
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:19,000
Muslims right now are going to, 
they are literally going to 

1647
01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:23,920
their mosques and they are the 
the clerics, the leaders of the 

1648
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:28,920
mosques are telling everybody, 
Allah says you must vote. 

1649
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:35,520
You must go vote. 
Like to me, that's crazy, 

1650
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,800
especially when you consider 
what the Quran says. 

1651
01:37:37,840 --> 01:37:40,240
I'll quote to you what the Quran
says the Quran says. 

1652
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:46,240
That means if you translated 
from Arabic, they deceived 

1653
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:48,280
directly, indirectly referring 
to the Jews. 

1654
01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:50,200
So Allah deceived. 
Why? 

1655
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,800
Because Allah is the chief of 
deceivers. 

1656
01:37:53,000 --> 01:37:55,960
That's what it says. 
Imagine is that what you want? 

1657
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:03,200
That's I'm telling you, it's a, 
it is a absolutely big deal. 

1658
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:05,440
It's a big deal. 
And I think that we have to just

1659
01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:10,840
wake up because if we don't, we 
are going to be, we're going to 

1660
01:38:10,840 --> 01:38:13,120
be in big trouble. 
And for those of you that want 

1661
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:17,800
to know where that is Surah 354,
it's, it's, it's absolutely 

1662
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:19,680
wild. 
It's absolutely wild. 

1663
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:21,680
And by the way, don't let them 
tell you that that means in 

1664
01:38:21,680 --> 01:38:24,680
Arabic, the best of schemers or 
planners. 

1665
01:38:24,680 --> 01:38:27,480
No, he is the best of deceivers.
That's what it says in the 

1666
01:38:27,480 --> 01:38:29,240
Arabic language. 
My mom and dad were both born 

1667
01:38:29,240 --> 01:38:32,200
and raised in Egypt. 
I speak Arabic as a second 

1668
01:38:32,200 --> 01:38:35,200
language and I'm promising you 
that's exactly what it says. 

1669
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:40,080
And by the way, mosque based 
voter mobilization, it's a very,

1670
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,800
very real thing. 
It's happening everywhere and 

1671
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:45,200
Christians are doing nothing 
about it. 

1672
01:38:46,680 --> 01:38:49,280
It's crazy and we have to wake 
up. 

1673
01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:53,240
Pastors need to be bold. 
Right, I think. 

1674
01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:59,080
Correct me if I'm wrong on this,
but Bob McEwen was telling me a 

1675
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,720
few weeks ago he was talking 
about how churches, they 

1676
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:07,640
technically pastors, should not 
be using the excuse that if I 

1677
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:13,320
say XYZ, we will lose our 5O1C3 
status because technically 

1678
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:17,080
churches are all don't need it. 
Yeah, correct. 

1679
01:39:17,120 --> 01:39:22,560
They're always tax exempt. 
Can you explain very briefly, 

1680
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,320
maybe for a pastor who has said 
that constantly, and maybe a 

1681
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:29,480
congregant who could absorb what
you say and then share that with

1682
01:39:29,480 --> 01:39:32,800
their pastor? 
So it's like, yes and no. 

1683
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:37,440
Like, no, you can't lose that 
status as a church. 

1684
01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:42,280
That's right, you can't. 
So first and foremost, let let 

1685
01:39:42,280 --> 01:39:47,120
let me just simply say this when
we first well, let let let's 

1686
01:39:47,120 --> 01:39:48,360
just. 
Answer the question cause the 

1687
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:51,720
question is is perhaps deeply 
consequential. 

1688
01:39:52,080 --> 01:39:55,400
Churches are exempt by statute 
that that you don't have to get 

1689
01:39:55,400 --> 01:39:57,960
permission from the IRS, right? 
Right. 

1690
01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:01,960
OK, so here let me let me just 
say this, here's what every 

1691
01:40:01,960 --> 01:40:06,480
pastor needs to understand, OK? 
And it is super, super 

1692
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:14,200
important, OK. 
Under Section 5O8C1A of the 

1693
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:18,520
Internal Revenue Code, churches 
meet the requirements of five O 

1694
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:20,360
1C3. 
Recognize as tax. 

1695
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,880
Exempt. 
They do not have to apply to the

1696
01:40:22,880 --> 01:40:25,520
IRS for that recognition. 
You can look it up. 

1697
01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:30,440
It's I know this because 
ecclesiastical law was really 

1698
01:40:30,440 --> 01:40:32,200
important to me when I was 
learning the law. 

1699
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:35,080
OK. 
However, there is an important 

1700
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:36,480
distinction I want everybody to 
understand. 

1701
01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:39,880
This automatic tax exemption 
doesn't mean that a church can 

1702
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:43,280
never lose it. 
The IRS could potentially revoke

1703
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:49,880
exemption for violation of other
tax laws, including certain 

1704
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:54,280
things that relates to that, 
which would be improprietess. 

1705
01:40:54,360 --> 01:40:59,400
So, for example, if somebody is 
running a campaign and they 

1706
01:40:59,400 --> 01:41:02,160
filter their money through the 
church, that church is going to 

1707
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:05,040
lose its status, OK? 
But that that's just outright 

1708
01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:06,200
fraud. 
OK. 

1709
01:41:06,520 --> 01:41:08,920
So here's where pastors 
misunderstand the law. 

1710
01:41:09,440 --> 01:41:11,400
You, you're allowed to preach 
about abortion. 

1711
01:41:11,400 --> 01:41:13,800
You're allowed to preach about 
marriage, sexuality, biblical 

1712
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:15,880
morality. 
You could talk even about 

1713
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:19,640
political issues. 
The IRS cannot prohibit churches

1714
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,200
from addressing matters of 
public policy. 

1715
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:26,240
It it's, it's against the law 
for the IRS to do that. 

1716
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:31,080
It's it's just outright, it is a
constitutional issue. 

1717
01:41:31,600 --> 01:41:36,440
Now the legal restriction 
concerns, like I said before, 

1718
01:41:36,440 --> 01:41:41,680
political campaign activity. 
OK, So, and by the way, in order

1719
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:45,200
to, to meet this, in order to 
actually get to like get to that

1720
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:52,760
point, you'd have to do a lot. 
OK, So the the again, we ought 

1721
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:56,000
to obey God rather than men. 
I don't have a problem telling 

1722
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,040
people. 
Vote for this person or vote for

1723
01:41:58,040 --> 01:41:59,720
that person from the from the 
pulpit. 

1724
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:01,800
I think that we have the right 
to do it. 

1725
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,520
And by the way, for those people
that say, oh, well, James is in 

1726
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:09,080
the wrong, OK, Go hunt down many
of the black churches around 

1727
01:42:09,080 --> 01:42:12,920
this country that are bringing 
in candidates like Kamala Harris

1728
01:42:13,120 --> 01:42:16,400
and many other people who are 
basically making a case to abort

1729
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:19,280
their babies. 
And by the way, that's the Negro

1730
01:42:19,280 --> 01:42:22,200
Project. 
That's the, that's exactly what,

1731
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,680
what, what the founder of 
Planned Parenthood referred to 

1732
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:28,280
as the Negro Project. 
And, and you know what, they're 

1733
01:42:28,280 --> 01:42:30,080
successful. 
Think about it this way. 

1734
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:34,520
They got her goal. 
Margaret Sanger's whole goal 

1735
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,280
when she started Planned 
Parenthood was to weaken, 

1736
01:42:39,280 --> 01:42:41,200
literally destroy the black 
race. 

1737
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:45,160
And she knew that they were way 
too strong of a people and too 

1738
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:47,000
strong of a family to abort 
their babies. 

1739
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:51,680
So her goal was to get pastors 
involved to basically convince 

1740
01:42:51,680 --> 01:42:53,560
their people that abortion is 
right. 

1741
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,480
And by the way, she's super, she
was super successful. 

1742
01:42:56,560 --> 01:42:58,640
Look at people like Rafael 
Warnick today. 

1743
01:42:59,280 --> 01:43:03,320
Think about this for, for a, for
a picture. 50% of the 

1744
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:06,600
childbearing population. 
Well, let me, let me go back. 

1745
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,640
Let me, let me, let me, let me 
rewind this. 

1746
01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:14,160
OK, 3% actually, that number now
is 2.7% of the childbearing 

1747
01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:16,040
population in this country are 
black women. 

1748
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:19,480
Yet they account for 50% of the 
abortions in this country. 

1749
01:43:20,920 --> 01:43:24,320
Man, if you're worried about 
racism, how about that? 

1750
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,240
That is a literal lynching 
that's happening, right? 

1751
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,800
Now with black babies. 
Right. 

1752
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:33,720
And guess what? 
I agree with what Francis 

1753
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:36,560
Schaeffer said. 
God, God bless him. 

1754
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,480
Every single abortion clinic 
out. 

1755
01:43:40,480 --> 01:43:42,440
There ought to have a sign on 
top. 

1756
01:43:42,440 --> 01:43:47,880
Of its door that says at the 
permission of the church open 

1757
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:49,080
with the permission of the 
church. 

1758
01:43:50,240 --> 01:43:54,000
So the and and and let me. 
Let me just. 

1759
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:56,960
Speak to the Johnson Amendment. 
That's what everybody refers to.

1760
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:01,760
It's bogus. 
It's it's never been tested and 

1761
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:03,560
and if you're a pastor and 
you're listening to. 

1762
01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:07,200
Me, let me give. 
You 5 very important points 

1763
01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:11,120
about all of all of what we've 
been talking about, including 

1764
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:15,120
the Johnson amendment that I 
think will really, really help 

1765
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:15,680
you. 
I could probably. 

1766
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:16,560
Give you more than that, but 
I'm. 

1767
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:20,480
Going to just give you 5 because
again, I want it to be easy to 

1768
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:23,720
understand if there's pastors 
listening, this is good to hear.

1769
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:27,600
If you're, if you want to bring 
this to your own pastor, just do

1770
01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:30,680
me a favor. 
Bring it with humility, OK? 

1771
01:44:30,760 --> 01:44:33,480
It's, it's, it's, it's just 
important because pastors, 

1772
01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:36,640
they're hard headed and often 
times don't listen. 

1773
01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,040
I know 'cause I'm one of them. 
And I can, I can tell you OK, 

1774
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:44,160
number one, churches do not need
IRS permission to be tax exempt.

1775
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,400
I gave you the section already. 
I'm right about the section. 

1776
01:44:47,560 --> 01:44:52,840
I have it by memory. 
I'm no, it's not wrong. 5O8C1A 

1777
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:58,680
OK, if you're wanting to write 
this down, five O 8 in 

1778
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:02,840
parentheses, put C in 
parentheses after that. 

1779
01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:05,400
Put one in parentheses after. 
That put A and then. 

1780
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,200
Go do a search online. 
You'll find it. 

1781
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:11,240
Qualifying churches are 
automatically tax exempt. 

1782
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:15,040
They are tax exempt by statute. 
They do not need an IRS 

1783
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:17,080
determination letter of 
determination. 

1784
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,600
They don't need it. 
That's what the five O 1C3 issue

1785
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:25,120
is now #2 the Johnson Amendment 
is not a prohibition against 

1786
01:45:25,120 --> 01:45:29,160
preaching about politics. 
You can address everything that 

1787
01:45:29,160 --> 01:45:31,960
relates to. 
There's nothing about politics 

1788
01:45:31,960 --> 01:45:35,680
that you cannot talk about. 
You can talk about everything 

1789
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,400
political, abortion, marriage, 
sexuality, government, all of 

1790
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:39,920
that. 
You could talk about all of it. 

1791
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:44,800
The, the legal restriction 
concerns, things that aren't 

1792
01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:47,880
even related to any of the 
things that pastors talk about, 

1793
01:45:48,280 --> 01:45:50,880
OK? 
It, it, it, if you're funding a 

1794
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,520
political campaign, you're 
probably subject to something 

1795
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,280
happening under the Johnson 
Amendment. 

1796
01:45:57,360 --> 01:45:59,400
OK? 
Also, here's the third thing you

1797
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:03,360
need to know. 
Please listen to this, OK? 

1798
01:46:04,040 --> 01:46:08,080
The Johnson Amendment. 
Has been tested in court. 

1799
01:46:09,000 --> 01:46:12,720
It has been tested in court. 
Go look up this case, Branch 

1800
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:16,680
Ministries versus Rosati. 
OK. 

1801
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:22,200
It was a 2000 case. 
The federal appeals court upheld

1802
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:27,880
the revocation of a A a church's
tax exemption after it purchased

1803
01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:32,280
political advertisements that 
opposed Bill Clinton. 

1804
01:46:33,320 --> 01:46:38,560
Now, that case right there tells
you about the limited scope of 

1805
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,200
the testing of the A Johnson 
Amendment. 

1806
01:46:40,920 --> 01:46:43,320
They paid for material for a 
campaign. 

1807
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:47,400
Now if I go as a pastor and I 
say, hey you. 

1808
01:46:47,400 --> 01:46:50,240
Should contribute to. 
This campaign, I'm not breaking 

1809
01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:53,280
the law. 
It's important to understand the

1810
01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:54,880
nuances and the reason why I'm 
bringing up. 

1811
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:58,960
That case. 
Is the opinions rendered by the 

1812
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:02,040
judges in that case give you 
some really good insight if 

1813
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:05,880
you're if you're interested in 
the in the legal nerd stuff. 

1814
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:12,080
OK, now here's point #4. 
Man, I wish the president would 

1815
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:13,680
see I. 
Wish I could get Donald Trump 

1816
01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:14,760
to. 
Listen to what I'm about to say.

1817
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:20,040
Donald Trump will come down as. 
The greatest president that we 

1818
01:47:20,040 --> 01:47:22,720
have ever had. 
In American history, for a lot 

1819
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:25,080
of reasons. 
Reasons, by the way, that 

1820
01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:29,680
nobody's ever going to know. 
Reasons like the oil deal that 

1821
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:30,400
he just. 
Struck. 

1822
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:31,680
And I'm not talking about the 
Russian. 

1823
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:33,880
Oil deal, which by the way, that
Russian ceasefire. 

1824
01:47:34,000 --> 01:47:36,080
Pretty amazing to have a 
president that says we have a 

1825
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:37,280
deal, 'cause I said we have a 
deal. 

1826
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:43,360
I'm talking about the deal that 
he made with Venezuela, OK, My 

1827
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:47,560
children's children will do well
because of what Donald Trump is 

1828
01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:49,600
doing. 
He's going to go down as the 

1829
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,240
greatest president that we've 
ever had. 

1830
01:47:52,440 --> 01:47:56,360
And I'm going to say this right 
now, one of the reasons that I 

1831
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:59,040
am so thankful. 
For Donald Trump. 

1832
01:47:59,240 --> 01:48:01,800
Is what he did with the Johnson 
Amendment. 

1833
01:48:03,000 --> 01:48:10,560
In 2025, the IRS made a proposal
allowing certain candidate 

1834
01:48:10,560 --> 01:48:14,240
related communications during 
religious services. 

1835
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,280
A federal judge dismissed the 
case. 

1836
01:48:18,560 --> 01:48:22,160
In March, so this is. 
Just a few months ago without 

1837
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:27,200
approving the agreement. 
OK, so on April 3rd. 

1838
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,960
The Treasury. 
Department actually announced 

1839
01:48:30,960 --> 01:48:38,000
plans for further guidance. 
So without getting into the 

1840
01:48:38,000 --> 01:48:41,720
technicalities of that, that in 
and of itself moved the 

1841
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:46,520
president to try to solidify 
even deeper what happens. 

1842
01:48:46,520 --> 01:48:51,120
With the Johnson amendment. 
And the result of what Donald 

1843
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:56,800
Trump has done in removing the 
so-called effects of the Johnson

1844
01:48:56,800 --> 01:49:00,040
Amendment are awesome. 
I think we're one step short to 

1845
01:49:00,040 --> 01:49:03,960
it being completely obliterated.
So that can't be an excuse. 

1846
01:49:04,760 --> 01:49:09,600
OK, now, now that we've gone 
over the the legal precedent for

1847
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:14,800
it, let me give you one more 
very important thing, OK? 

1848
01:49:16,120 --> 01:49:19,440
And that is this. 
Your responsibility before God 

1849
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:28,800
doesn't disappear because the 
subject becomes political acts. 

1850
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,480
20 What does Paul say? 
I have not shunned. 

1851
01:49:32,480 --> 01:49:35,760
To declare to you the full 
counsel of God. 

1852
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:38,000
Second Timothy says the same 
thing. 

1853
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,160
Preach the Word. 
Be instant in season, out of 

1854
01:49:41,160 --> 01:49:44,480
season. 
Political controversy is the 

1855
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:47,360
place where oftentimes the Word 
speaks the loudest. 

1856
01:49:48,280 --> 01:49:52,520
You don't change if something is
political, politically 

1857
01:49:52,520 --> 01:49:55,280
controversial, it doesn't change
the responsibility to faithfully

1858
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:57,080
teach the Bible. 
It's that simple. 

1859
01:49:57,320 --> 01:49:58,960
And this is what I would tell 
every pastor. 

1860
01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:03,680
Don't confuse this weird 
restriction that really hasn't 

1861
01:50:03,680 --> 01:50:06,600
been tested at the level that it
probably will be one day with 

1862
01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:08,600
the restriction on preaching 
biblical truth. 

1863
01:50:08,760 --> 01:50:13,240
They're not the same thing. 
Understand the law, recognize 

1864
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:16,400
your responsibility, and 
whatever you do, don't allow 

1865
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:19,120
fear to determine the actions 
that you take. 

1866
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:21,600
Be bold. 
You have to be bold. 

1867
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,400
By the way, one little side note
with the president, OK? 

1868
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:29,880
Just so that you, you, you have 
a better idea, OK? 

1869
01:50:30,200 --> 01:50:34,680
The Johnson Amendment was 
greatly weakened by President 

1870
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,840
Trump in 2017. 
He actually took a run at it in 

1871
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:40,720
his first term of office in 
September. 

1872
01:50:40,760 --> 01:50:43,000
We're talking about less than a 
month ago. 

1873
01:50:43,000 --> 01:50:45,960
And every, every single pastor 
should know this. 

1874
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:49,800
Donald Trump's Justice 
Department took this whole thing

1875
01:50:49,800 --> 01:50:52,920
further. 
And they argued in federal court

1876
01:50:53,400 --> 01:50:57,360
that restricting churches, the 
candidate endorsements of 

1877
01:50:57,360 --> 01:51:00,360
churches, violates 
constitutional protections. 

1878
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:04,960
And by the way, that's a huge, 
significant development. 

1879
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:09,160
And I think it's going to lead 
to the repeal of the Johnson. 

1880
01:51:09,160 --> 01:51:14,400
Amendment all together. 
OK, let me repeat myself again. 

1881
01:51:14,480 --> 01:51:18,960
Pastors have always been legally
permitted to preach about moral 

1882
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:22,400
and political issues. 
You do not need the Johnson 

1883
01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,760
Amendment repeal to do that. 
OK, very simple. 

1884
01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:31,240
The apostle said it for we 
cannot but speak the things 

1885
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:33,840
which we have seen and heard. 
That doesn't mean you do that 

1886
01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:35,400
only when it's not in the 
political arena. 

1887
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,400
I hope you could take this 
segment and give it to some 

1888
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:40,120
pastors. 
Hopefully it'll encourage them. 

1889
01:51:40,240 --> 01:51:42,360
There's a lot of great 
political, there's a lot of 

1890
01:51:42,360 --> 01:51:44,520
great resources out there that 
will equip you with an 

1891
01:51:44,520 --> 01:51:46,120
understanding of what that all 
means. 

1892
01:51:46,560 --> 01:51:49,800
And quite frankly, there's 
several pastors that are hoping 

1893
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:54,120
they get sued on something like 
this because it's going to end 

1894
01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:56,640
up giving them the opportunity 
to potentially get this whole 

1895
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,080
thing repealed because it's a 
lie. 

1896
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,840
It's a complete lie. 
I really believe that. 

1897
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,160
No, that was so. 
Good, I literally texted. 

1898
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:09,920
One of our team. 
Members in the control room and 

1899
01:52:09,920 --> 01:52:13,280
I was like, please clip this, 
Please clip this. 

1900
01:52:14,040 --> 01:52:17,440
Pastor James, today you've been 
our pastor, our linguistic. 

1901
01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:22,000
Expert our legal analyst we need
you we're grateful for you 10 

1902
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:26,440
out of 10 I I went to law school
years ago and didn't really 

1903
01:52:26,440 --> 01:52:28,120
understand why the. 
Lord told me to do it. 

1904
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:30,080
I just did it because the Lord, 
I felt like the Lord told me to 

1905
01:52:30,080 --> 01:52:33,680
do it and. 
You know, it's, it's, it's just 

1906
01:52:33,680 --> 01:52:36,440
really, really funny. 
I I know now. 

1907
01:52:36,520 --> 01:52:37,760
It was a great. 
It was a great. 

1908
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:39,520
Benefit to me, you know I I 
didn't know I. 

1909
01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:42,760
Didn't ever think I would ever 
like think about it outside of, 

1910
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:44,920
you know, the education that I 
got. 

1911
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:48,200
And it was, you know, it's 
funny, in my office, I still 

1912
01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,920
have all those, those in the 
Barbary books and all, all the. 

1913
01:52:52,840 --> 01:52:55,840
Other you never know. 
Yeah, he uses everything he 

1914
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:57,680
uses. 
Everything, that's for sure. 

1915
01:52:57,680 --> 01:52:59,640
Kate has one. 
Question from YouTube that 

1916
01:52:59,640 --> 01:53:01,840
she's. 
Going to say and then we'll 

1917
01:53:02,320 --> 01:53:06,640
close out in prayer for October 
and then speed right into 

1918
01:53:06,720 --> 01:53:11,600
November and then we do we are 
going to be announcing soon not 

1919
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:16,360
exactly just at the moment, but 
about Amfest and so we'll we'll 

1920
01:53:16,360 --> 01:53:19,440
connect offline about that as 
well, which is I'm super stoked 

1921
01:53:19,440 --> 01:53:24,200
about but expect expect some fun
things from Bible and 365 at 

1922
01:53:24,200 --> 01:53:26,080
Amfest is here. 
But Kate, go ahead and do the 

1923
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:28,480
YouTube question that we just 
got. 

1924
01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:32,240
So I'm a Canadian, mom said. 
If one feels a demonic or 

1925
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,240
wicked. 
Spirit that we are witnessing or

1926
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:37,160
being confronted by, is it 
better to speak to it and 

1927
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:41,120
command audibly and bind in the 
name of Jesus or pray silently 

1928
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:45,880
to God? 
Oh, that's a great question. 

1929
01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:48,560
Jude Jude 9 is going. 
To speak to. 

1930
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:52,040
This a little bit, which is kind
of important. 

1931
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:53,720
There's a lot of great places to
go to. 

1932
01:53:54,720 --> 01:53:58,240
First of all, let's just assume.
Let me just give you a caution 

1933
01:53:58,240 --> 01:54:01,000
here. 
Don't assume that every 

1934
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:02,680
unsettling experience is 
demonic. 

1935
01:54:02,680 --> 01:54:04,040
I think that that can be very. 
Dangerous. 

1936
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:08,960
We need discernment, not. 
Fear, I think. 

1937
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:13,720
Fear creates those those 
perceptions, but let me just go 

1938
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,640
over some critical passages that
I think are really, really 

1939
01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:19,680
important, right James chapter 
4, it says submit yourselves, 

1940
01:54:19,680 --> 01:54:21,440
therefore to God. 
And here's the here's the, 

1941
01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:25,080
here's the exhortation. 
Resist the devil and he will 

1942
01:54:25,080 --> 01:54:28,360
flee from you. 
Notice that submission to God is

1943
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:31,040
what comes first and then 
resistance is what comes second.

1944
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:34,240
So engaging the enemy is 
probably not what we want to do 

1945
01:54:34,240 --> 01:54:36,280
here. 
Ephesians chapter 6. 

1946
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:39,000
Go back and and and and read 
that passage. 

1947
01:54:39,400 --> 01:54:43,520
That is our spiritual, it's 
direction on spiritual warfare 

1948
01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:45,440
and it involves the whole armor 
of God. 

1949
01:54:45,760 --> 01:54:48,480
And by the way. 
The the term armor was used 

1950
01:54:48,480 --> 01:54:50,680
because it was a term that would
have been very familiar to every

1951
01:54:50,680 --> 01:54:53,480
single person who would have 
been reading the letter that 

1952
01:54:53,480 --> 01:54:56,200
Paul wrote to the Ephesian 
church because Roman soldiers 

1953
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:57,680
were everywhere. 
That's why he used that. 

1954
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:00,640
He used that to demonstrate very
critically the importance. 

1955
01:55:00,640 --> 01:55:04,520
Now Jude 9, which I mentioned 
earlier, is what is super 

1956
01:55:04,640 --> 01:55:08,680
incredibly important here. 
OK, Michael the Archangel. 

1957
01:55:09,000 --> 01:55:11,640
Now mind you, just to show you 
the power of a single Angel one.

1958
01:55:11,640 --> 01:55:15,880
Angel, according to Isaiah 
killed 185,000 elite Assyrian 

1959
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,760
soldiers overnight. 
So just to show you how powerful

1960
01:55:18,760 --> 01:55:22,440
an Angel is, the enemy Satan, 
he's a fallen Angel. 

1961
01:55:22,680 --> 01:55:26,720
OK so Mark Michael the 
Archangel, this is Jude 9 when 

1962
01:55:26,720 --> 01:55:29,960
confronting Satan said the Lord 
rebuke you. 

1963
01:55:31,280 --> 01:55:35,360
So I I don't think that there is
any biblical requirement to 

1964
01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:38,840
audibly, you know, address or 
bind a demon as a. 

1965
01:55:39,040 --> 01:55:41,440
Matter of fact, I would be very,
very careful about getting into 

1966
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:45,320
a conversation with demonic 
spirits if you legitimately 

1967
01:55:45,320 --> 01:55:48,320
identify one or using formulas 
that the. 

1968
01:55:48,320 --> 01:55:52,640
Bible never commands us to use 
OK you can pray silently or 

1969
01:55:52,640 --> 01:55:54,520
audibly. 
That's the beautiful thing about

1970
01:55:54,520 --> 01:55:58,480
the fact God hears both the 
power isn't in the volume of 

1971
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:02,640
your voice, it's in the Lord. 
It's it's it's that simple. 

1972
01:56:02,640 --> 01:56:06,960
So remember this first John I 
quoted all the time. 

1973
01:56:07,000 --> 01:56:09,160
Greater is he that is in you 
than he that. 

1974
01:56:09,160 --> 01:56:09,680
Is. 
In. 

1975
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:11,640
The world. 
So this is what I would tell 

1976
01:56:11,640 --> 01:56:13,800
you. 
Don't become preoccupied with 

1977
01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:15,320
confronting demons. 
Matter of fact. 

1978
01:56:15,760 --> 01:56:18,640
If a demon's knocking at your 
door, run out of the back door 

1979
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,880
and tell God to go answer it. 
OK, that's that's what I would 

1980
01:56:20,880 --> 01:56:23,080
say. 
Draw near to the Lord, stand 

1981
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:25,480
firmly on His word, and trust 
Him to protect you. 

1982
01:56:25,800 --> 01:56:30,080
Our confidence is in the 
authority of Jesus Christ, not 

1983
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:33,480
in our ability to command the 
spiritual realm. 

1984
01:56:33,480 --> 01:56:35,120
That's very, very important that
we understand that. 

1985
01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,440
OK, I hope that's helpful. 
That's great. 

1986
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:40,520
OK. 
All right. 

1987
01:56:41,200 --> 01:56:43,760
We love you, Pastor. 
James, thank you for everything.

1988
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:48,600
Thank you for being a part of 
the the family and why don't you

1989
01:56:48,600 --> 01:56:54,280
just close this out in prayer 
also too, just you know, 

1990
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:56,760
especially with Charlie's 
birthday yesterday. 

1991
01:56:56,760 --> 01:57:01,160
So love to just have you cover 
the family in prayer, Bible and 

1992
01:57:01,160 --> 01:57:04,200
365 in prayer and just grateful 
for you. 

1993
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:05,080
Thank you. 
Amen. 

1994
01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:08,400
Father in Heaven, we give all 
this to you right now, Lord, and

1995
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:09,720
we thank you for your goodness 
and your. 

1996
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:11,920
Faithfulness to us, Lord, we 
thank you for the fact that you 

1997
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:14,440
continue to show up, Lord. 
And Lord, we're just so thankful

1998
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:18,080
for the fact that we know that 
Charlie is with you, Lord. 

1999
01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:21,840
We can find peace in that, Lord.
And we know, Lord, that your 

2000
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:24,720
goodness continues to show 
itself in ways that are 

2001
01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:30,320
remarkable and powerful, Lord, 
and that Lord, your goodness to 

2002
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:33,640
us, Lord, runs from everlasting 
to everlasting. 

2003
01:57:33,640 --> 01:57:37,120
Lord, we pray, Lord, for comfort
and peace, Lord, for Erica and 

2004
01:57:37,120 --> 01:57:40,160
the children and everybody at 
Turning Point. 

2005
01:57:40,160 --> 01:57:44,960
Lord, we pray, Lord, for Rob and
Kathy and Charlie's precious, 

2006
01:57:44,960 --> 01:57:47,320
beautiful sister. 
Lord, we we continue to pray 

2007
01:57:47,320 --> 01:57:50,320
Lord, for all the family Lord, 
that's in the middle of all of 

2008
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:53,840
this Lord and and and and Lord 
experiencing hurt. 

2009
01:57:54,400 --> 01:57:56,840
Lord, we just pray that you 
would just bring peace, 

2010
01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:58,760
overwhelming peace. 
Lord. 

2011
01:57:58,800 --> 01:58:02,040
Because you're good, You're God,
You're the God of peace, You're 

2012
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:04,840
the God of comfort. 
Lord, bring peace to our hearts,

2013
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:08,520
Lord. 
Give us, Lord, strength in being

2014
01:58:08,520 --> 01:58:11,600
able to look forward in the 
midst of this, Lord, and help us

2015
01:58:11,600 --> 01:58:13,240
to always be sensitive to your 
voice. 

2016
01:58:13,240 --> 01:58:16,040
We love you, God, and thank you.
We look to you, Lord, and we 

2017
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:20,200
continue to say, Lord, that we 
declare to you that you are the 

2018
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:23,040
God of heaven and that your 
faithfulness is from everlasting

2019
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:25,240
to everlasting. 
Thank you for it all, Lord, we 

2020
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:27,000
love you. 
And we ask these things now. 

2021
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,080
In Jesus name we pray. 
Amen. 

2022
01:58:29,480 --> 01:58:31,280
Amen. 
All right, love you guys. 

2023
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:32,880
We'll see you in November. 
God bless you.