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This week on the Machine podcast
Medals game was like 

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incarceration. 
Yes, we played our game song 

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Alien Isolation. 
Queue the music. 

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Hey everybody, and welcome back 
to another episode of the Steam 

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Machine podcast. 
My name is Dalton and joining me

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this week, we got the one, the 
only the Willy. 

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We've got the devilish, the 
dapper, the Dane. 

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What up? 
And then we've got I'm I'm 

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sorry, Sir, what did you say 
your name was? 

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It doesn't matter what your name
is. 

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And we got Jeff here, too. 
Yeah. 

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Hey Sailor. 
How you doing, buddy? 

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I had to hit you with The Rock. 
I was watching some wrestling 

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stuff earlier that was talking 
about classic Smackdown. 

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And actually it was talking 
about the promo where The Rock 

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said it was when WWF switched 
over to WWE and The Rock said if

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you don't want to be here, then 
you could do like the slogan 

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says and get the F out. 
Such a cheesy line in 

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retrospect, but as a kid I was 
like, yeah, get him Rocky. 

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I love how you did that to the 
dude with the most fucking 

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nicknames in the entire group. 
I also have always spiked the 

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shit out of my mic when I did 
that but it'll be OK. 

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It's all names that you gave me.
It is and I would add more if I 

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would remember them. 
I remember at one point I was 

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old expendable just because I 
kept getting. 

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I was the first one always 
getting killed in Phasmophobia. 

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There's like there's a ghost 
charge. 

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Hey guys, I'm dying. 
Mr. Expendable. 

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It's got an axe. 
Well boys, how you, how you 

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doing? 
How you doing? 

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Let's go ahead and start with 
Jeff, since I I already yelled 

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at you. 
How you doing buddy? 

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Well, I don't know if I want to 
talk to you anymore. 

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You hurt my feelings. 
I. 

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Didn't know you had any 
feelings. 

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I don't, but nothing much, just 
I've been playing. 

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What have I been playing it? 
I've been dabbling back in the 

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Skyrim. 
It's been a a few months since I

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last played it. 
I'm doing everything in my power

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not to continue my love for Mass
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You should play Andromeda. 
I don't know if I want to 

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because it's not good. 
No, no, no, no. 

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No, you've only heard it's not 
good. 

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True, I heard. 
Actually, what I've heard is 

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it's fine. 
I. 

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It's perfectly fine. 
People were pissed because they 

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wanted more shepherd. 
You don't get more shepherd. 

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That's that was the issue with 
Andromeda as far as I heard. 

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Well, also performance issues 
and such. 

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Oh, that's fixed long by now 
though. 

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Oh, I know it has nothing to do.
OK, I'm a little. 

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It's like, yes, this doesn't 
follow Shepherd, but that's just

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like, I don't know, I heard the 
game. 

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It kind of is sort of empty. 
Well then, have you maybe 

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thought about trying something 
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one of the newer Dragon Age 
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Because it's the same style of 
game, just fantasy. 

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I know you're not big into 
fantasy, but you do like Mass 

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Effect a lot, so you might enjoy
Dragon Age. 

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How much is it right now on a 
PlayStation? 

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Oh right, I have no idea. 
What the fuck. 

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Let me just pull that number out
of my butt hole real quick, 

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Jeff. 
It's $3 if you go to Mr. Bay. 

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Yeah, if you got it, I can tell 
you how much I did on Steam. 

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I can look at it real quick, 
but. 

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I don't play things on Steam 
because that requires me to sit 

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at my computer. 
My chair sucks, it's too hot. 

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What's the name of the? 
Podcast. 

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You're on again homie. 
It's called a meandering dump 

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and I'm dumping all over my 
meandering. 

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Oh my goodness. 
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dabbling into Skyrim, which is 
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comforting game to come back to 
do. 

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You get up to the cloud district
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That guy has died long ago. 
I'm sure. 

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There are two people I always 
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One is Nazeem, the other one is 
Heimsker, the guy who's just 

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shouting about Talos. 
I like him. 

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He's like just a little crazy 
St. 

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Preacher. 
Man, I know he won't shut the 

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fuck up. 
It's like 2:00 in the morning. 

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He's out there like he my word 
you have you come to grasp in 

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the glory of Talos. 
No, motherfucker. 

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I've studied these principles. 
I like Mara, I like Kenerith. 

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Talos is not a real God. 
I'm one of those long with the 

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Empire. 
By the way, you. 

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Just want to kiss the old Mari 
on the lips. 

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If I want the Game of the Year 
edition for Inquisition, it's 

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$40. 
Yeah, it's 3999 right now, but 

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it's not on sale. 
Catch that on sale for 10 bucks 

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guaranteed. 
We will see. 

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We will see. 
Apart from that, it's just been 

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working, Sir, too much work 
lately. 

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My bosses right now, they're 
just constantly just like we 

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need to ship jobs, we need to 
satisfy the customers. 

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Just like I thought I got out of
retail to avoid customers, but 

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it is what it is. 
It's the part I hate about 

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retail most. 
Everything's easy except dealing

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with people. 
Dealing with people is easy for 

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me. 
It's just draining. 

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Yeah. 
But apart from that, no that. 

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That's about it. 
Just work and play in Skyrim. 

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Well, Dame, why don't you pour a
little sugar on us and let us 

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know what you went up to? 
So me and the wife went and got 

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memberships at the YMCA last 
week. 

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I hear it's fun. 
Yeah, I worked out for Yeah, 

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hang out with all the boys and I
actually went and worked out and

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I am sore as shit. 
I love the first time back from 

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not working out in the long time
Soreness. 

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Man, that's a good. 
Well, I thought I was good. 

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I'm like, this will be alright. 
Let's put this weight on up 

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here, man. 
I used to work in steel. 

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We can do this. 
I'll start going and I'm like, 

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I'm good, I'm good. 
It's skin heavy. 

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Push through, push through. 
I kept going and next day I got 

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up. 
Ow, two days later I'm still 

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feeling first day back. 
Look at stuff. 

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As I've gotten older, I much 
prefer the machines that are 

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like pulley systems as opposed 
to just like getting up under a 

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fucking weight bar with like, 
you know, 'cause I used to 

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bench, I'm not bragging, but I 
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That's not a ton, but I mean 
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And now I would probably be like
pressed to bench 175 and I like,

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it's just I just don't do that 
anymore. 

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All my workouts now, like when I
do stuff, I'm like, I like the 

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thing where I sit down and I 
push it forward and bring it 

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back to me. 
That's the same as benching. 

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It's just I don't have the 
possibility of dropping that 

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fucker on my neck and killing 
myself. 

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Yeah, I kept it to the machines 
because I don't want to be that 

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guy who has to be saved and. 
Exactly. 

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You know, and to make it even 
worse, the one the Y that we're 

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going to like at the time of day
that I'm hitting it, it's filled

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with all of the octogenarians 
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So to be saved by like 3 old 
guys who have to come over there

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and get my pigeon chested ass 
out from underneath the dead 

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weights, you know, just Nah, 
I'll stick it to the machine. 

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Yeah. 
I'll never forget my buddy and 

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me. 
That's a good band name. 

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Stick it to the machine. 
That is a good band name. 

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Me and my buddy Jordan used to 
like go back and forth trying to

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out lift one another. 
And I remember loading up 1000 

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lbs onto the leg press machine 
and got up under it and let the 

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thing down and let that thing 
come all the way down. 

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And I pushed it back up and I 
dropped it down and I pushed it 

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back up one more time and I put 
the things back up and got up 

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and Jordan's like, yeah, I'm 
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I'm not going to try that. 
He did end up doing it like a 

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week later. 
But I remember being on the 

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phone with my dad being like, 
man, my legs are sore. 

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He's like, did you work out your
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I said yeah, I put 1000 lbs on 
the thing and pressed that twice

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in a silence for like 5 seconds.
And my dad goes, Dalton, that's 

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half a ton. 
And I was like, yeah, and he 

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goes, you're going to hurt your 
fucking back. 

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And look at me now. 
I have back problems and my back

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is currently hurt right now. 
So yeah, he should have listened

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to him. 
But no, I had to be cool and 

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lift really heavy back then 
because I was big man, big, 

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strong man. 
Daddy knows best. 

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Daddy knows best. 
I need to get my ass back to a 

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gym. 
I have bet last time I went, my 

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brother and I, I think I was, I 
just exited high school and we 

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would actually commit, you know,
three times a week and we did it

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for about 3 months straight and 
all of a sudden we missed one 

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day and that's how it started. 
Now we're both just, I think I, 

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we used to play, well, I used to
play Sunday football for I did 

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it for like 13 years straight 
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So I got a, I got tossed and got
a severe knee, knee in the back 

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and I couldn't move for two 
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And my wife is just like, you 
will not play football ever 

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again. 
It's like, all right. 

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And it's been like four years, 
guys. 

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I don't know if you know this 
but I'm whipped dude. 

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I wasn't. 
I was going to make a joke about

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you being whipped. 
And then I was like, no, that's 

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disrespectful. 
I won't do that. 

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So I'm glad you said that 
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To go. 
Oh, she's definitely the boss. 

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I was going to say, listen, if I
had a wife, happy wife, happy 

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life, whatever she says goes. 
I do not judge you a fucking 

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bit. 
I learned that early on from my 

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dad. 
I've never seen my parents argue

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or fight once in my entire life.
So obviously they're doing 

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something right. 
So I try to learn from them. 

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I took the stance early on. 
I can be right or I can be 

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happy. 
So I decided to be right 

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everywhere else. 
Yeah, other than getting my ass 

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handed to me at the gym and 
playing a lot with the kid this 

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past week. 
I posted a video on Discord 

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earlier today. 
I know Dalton saw it. 

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My mom ordered some Bluey 
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Officially, it's for my 
daughter. 

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She's 7, but one of them was 
Unicorse. 

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Who no y'all haven't seen the 
show but Adam's going to love 

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this talk right now. 
Unicorse is a very, very 

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obnoxious puppet that the dad on
the show uses to harass the 

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children and his wife. 
Yeah, Brandy's when I was used 

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to. 
And I have been, I have been 

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waiting for Unicorse to become 
an actual toy that you can buy 

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for so long because as soon as 
it got here, my daughter's like,

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yay, Unicorse in that snatch out
of her hand and I put it on and 

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start aggravating the shit out 
of everybody with it. 

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I love it. 
I love it. 

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I used to watch it with Daphne. 
So it's like I've gotten osmosis

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like there, dude, there's a 
couple episodes of Bluey that I 

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was like, this is fucking heavy 
for a little kids show. 

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Oh yeah. 
The like the fact that they 

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touch on the fact that the mom's
sister. 

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Yeah, that's the exact episode 
they. 

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Have kids. 
That exact. 

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Episode made me cry. 
There's an episode where she's 

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draw all the, the whole family's
drawing. 

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Everyone's like, wow, mom, you 
draw really good. 

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And like, yeah, my mom taught 
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And then the story ends up being
an allegory for about how her 

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mom died when she was young. 
And they're just hitting you 

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with this heavy stuff. 
If you read between the lines, 

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you know that the mom had a 
miscarriage right before Blue he

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was born. 
Yeah. 

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And all that shit's in the show.
And then you have things with 

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the dad, like the Father's Day 
special where the kids interrupt

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him talking to another dad about
how it's just a quick snip snip 

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and then you're fine. 
Talking about getting a 

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vasectomy just slid that under 
the radar. 

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Yeah, it it, it surprised me, 
like how how deep some of them 

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would go without like trying to 
overtly beat the kids in the 

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head with it. 
It's like it's there for the 

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adults to realize where the kids
are just still enjoying just a 

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Bluey episode. 
So yeah, I always find that, 

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like when cartoons can do that, 
I find that really, I think I've

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told this on the show before, 
but I will never forget watching

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Rugrats. 
That was a thing me and my 

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grandma used to do together. 
We always watch Rugrats 

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together. 
And there was this one episode 

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where they were Stew and 
Angelica's dad, I don't remember

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his name, but it was Stew and 
OK, so it was Stew and Drew, 

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Tommy's dad and him. 
So Stew and Drew were taking the

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kids to I think it was putt 
putt. 

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They were going to do mini golf 
or something like that. 

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No, they going to take him to 
ice cream and they saw the mini 

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putt place and they were like he
goes, Oh man, you Drews like we 

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haven't played mini putt in 
forever. 

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Wouldn't that be fun? 
And stews driving and he goes oh

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what the heck, let's go, let's 
go play a game. 

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And I remember just looking at 
my grandma like he said, heck, 

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he said what the heck, they 
can't say that on TV. 

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Like just mind blown, right? 
Imagine the first time that I 

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like turned onto a movie 
channel. 

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No, I'll tell you what, one of 
the culture shock to me because 

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I was around the same age, 
staying at my grandparents house

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up later than I should have been
like I do still now flipping 

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through channels stop on the E 
channel. 

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What's on Howard Stern? 
The the TV version, So obviously

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you didn't see anything, but 
what's on Howard Stern? 

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2 completely naked girls with 
just black bars covering their 

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stuff as they're talking to 
Howard. 

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I was very interested in this as
a young boy. 

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I wasn't sure why I was 
interested in it because I was 

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like 6 or 7, but I was very 
interested in it. 

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Oh man. 
So, Willie, how are you? 

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How are you, my good Sir? 
What you up to? 

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Well, you know, for a little 
while I was having some pretty 

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low key days. 
So for a lot of these last 

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couple weeks, pretty much all I 
was doing was playing like job 

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games, like you know, games 
where you run your own job. 

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So like gas station simulator 
and stuff like that. 

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I ended up getting back into the
Truck Simulator, game 0, Truck 

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Simulator 2 and American Truck 
Simulator. 

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And man, that is just really 
good and relaxing to put that on

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and put on like a podcast or a 
Let's Play video on the other 

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screen and just drive some stuff
around. 

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Like it's even got to the point 
where I can kind of back the 

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trailers up without having to go
to the above head camera 

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depending on the situation. 
Man, I am still one of those 

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guys that I pull in and it's 
like, do you want to do this? 

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You just want to auto do it. 
I'm like auto. 

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Thank you. 
You get better at it faster than

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you'd expect, it just it takes 
practice. 

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I haven't played in a while but 
I really want to buy a rig. 

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Bro don't make me cry. 
Like I when I pulled my rig out 

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to play the one day and noticed 
that the wire from my pedals to 

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the wheel had been severed by 
puppy teeth. 

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I was so sad because I 
discovered it after she had 

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grown out of chewing things so 
it was like a remnant of the 

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past and I'm like God damn it, I
still have the wheel so I can 

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still just use the wheel by 
itself. 

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But like, where's the fun in 
that? 

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Without the pedal? 
I guess I could soldered. 

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I guess I could order another 
pedal. 

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Maybe I'm really bad with 
soldering, but maybe. 

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Just take it. 
Slow nice and slow like butt 

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sex. 
So yeah dude. 

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I agree though, those truck 
games are tremendous. 

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There's a reason like I still 
when they're DLC go on sale like

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snag them here and there to get 
new states. 

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I am at the point now where I'm 
really looking forward to the 

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next sale just so I can pick up 
some stuff. 

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Like I in Europe I want to hit 
the Iberian Peninsula and 

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Scandinavia and in American I 
think I actually really want to 

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get Oregon just because I was 
really loving the very north 

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part of California. 
Like that. 

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The Trinity Highway between 
Eureka and Redding that is like 

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such a fun little bit of Rd. 
To to make things more 

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interesting for you too, might I
recommend the DLC that adds and 

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hauling really big machinery and
equipment and stuff like that. 

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Like the one that the one I told
you I got 1000 miles left on. 

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Right now the thing that I'm 
hauling the trailer has like 2 

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pivot points. 
Man. 

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It's fucking weird. 
I hate backing the motherfucker 

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up, but it's interesting to be 
pulling something that big and 

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having to deal with getting 
through everyday traffic. 

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Yeah, especially when you pull 
off the Interstate and you don't

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realize how long 2 truck 
trailers are behind you until 

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you're like, now I'm blocking 
every lane of traffic at this 

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red light. 
Yep. 

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Also, I'm curious if you'll ever
get to the point that some 

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streamers do that I've seen 
where they have so much money 

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and they're on such a tight time
crunch that they just blow past 

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red lights like they just eat 
the charges because you still 

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end up making profit in the 
Jeff. 

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Yeah, there you go. 
Jeff's like, fuck them charges. 

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I'm gonna hit this car. 
It's in my way. 

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Get it out of the way. 
Exactly, I got like $6 million 

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in my bank. 
I have 9 drivers all of them 

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drive like $800,000 trucks. 
So yes, fuck them lights, fuck 

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them charges. 
I was playing the other day in 

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the in the big rig that I'm 
driving and a car like pulled 

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out in front of me, but I I T 
boned it, but IT boned it at 

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like 70 miles an hour. 
And you know what happens to a 

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car when a semi hits it at about
70 miles an hour? 

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That thing went flying, hit the 
ground, bounced and then did 

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like the weird where like the 
corners are flipping end over 

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end really quickly and then just
like kept bouncing and I was 

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like, well, they're dead. 
The next time you see that car, 

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it'll be an African truck 
simulator. 

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That's how hard you hit it. 
Yeah, that motherfucker's still 

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going like the. 
Canal dude. 

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I did want to say Gas Station 
Simulator. 

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That game can be very stressful.
Yeah, and I was actually a bit 

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surprised that it was a little 
bit more plot heavy than I 

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expected it to be. 
But I think I've got to the 

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point now where I think I'm 
almost at post game type stuff, 

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so I haven't kind of messed with
it in a little while. 

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Like I got to the point where 
you're getting VIPs and stuff. 

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But no, it's just eventually 
gets to the point like you got 

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to fill up these two vehicles. 
Oh, you got there's a, there's a

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car in the garage. 
Oh, there's people at the 

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register. 
Oh, there's a delivery. 

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The the moment I could start 
hiring people to handle the 

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stuff on the inside so I could 
just handle the garage all day, 

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that's basically what I did. 
I'm garage and car washed out. 

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That's my job. 
Yeah, basically the same, but 

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it's very fun. 
The I like the car wash it feels

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like a shitty version of power 
wash simulator and I really 

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enjoyed power wash simulator. 
In fact that's also one of the 

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games I'm getting back into is 
doing the DLC is on power wash 

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simulator did Final Fantasy 7. 
I did for the Christmas house 

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and I'm in the middle of the 
SpongeBob one now. 

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I was going to say I really 
enjoyed the SpongeBob one. 

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SpongeBob was really good. 
Like I I super enjoyed the 

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invisible boat. 
Like that was just a really cool

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effect. 
Oh. 

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I haven't made it to that yet. 
Well, you get to clean the 

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Barnacle Boy and Barnacle Man, 
and you get to clean the 

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invisible. 
Boat. 

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It's great. 
That's fantastic. 

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Yeah. 
Mermaid, Man and man. 

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Mermaid. 
Man, that's it. 

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Yeah. 
Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy's 

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boat. 
Yeah, but yeah, I was. 

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Just I was trying to remember. 
So pleasantly surprised when I 

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went up to Patrick's Rock House 
and there's a button that says 

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like open and pulls the whole 
thing up and you can just like 

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clean on the inside. 
I was like, ah, this is great. 

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It's just great attention to 
detail. 

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Apparently there was an episode 
of SpongeBob that I've never 

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seen where all of a sudden 
Patrick's house just stands up 

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and it's a turtle and he just 
walks off. 

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Oh man, it's one of the churches
from Elden Ring Dong. 

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Puts on his Pope hat. 
I have somewhere to be and 

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walks. 
On Good Dog. 

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Oh man, so that's those things. 
I've been doing all of the, you 

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know, that stuff. 
And then so I keep being on and 

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off about wanting to get started
in game development and actually

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make something. 
Like I'd tinker around with 

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tutorials every now and then, 
but never actually do anything. 

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And so Dane, you were you were 
been talking about this guy a 

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lot recently too, because he's 
he's showed up on everyone's 

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shorts lately as Thor Hall, the 
guy from Pirate Software. 

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Yeah, I love his shit. 
Yeah, he's, he's, he says a lot 

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of stuff that's really, really 
just inspiring and very common 

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sense. 
Like he makes you feel like you 

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can get stuff done, like as long
as you're not a dumb shit. 

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And then he has a lot of fun 
stories about dumb shits as 

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well. 
And it's like you, you've really

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quickly been good to think, man,
without all the corporate 

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assholes like over top that 
don't know what they're doing. 

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I could really get a lot done, 
you know. 

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And so he has his website at a 
website called Develop dot games

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that is just like this, like, 
you know, 15 page long manifesto

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about how you can get started 
coding games today that it's 

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never been easier to learn 
everything and you don't need 

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any specific talents. 
You can do it if you can't code 

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like Undertales made by someone 
who is absolutely shitty coding.

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You can do it if you can't draw.
He showed examples of a game 

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that's made entirely out of 
squares that did big, a couple 

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that are just drawn on, you 
know, pieces of posted paper and

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all that. 
And he talks about game jams. 

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And he's like, the cool thing 
about game jams is you can get 

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started right away and, you 
know, have something made over 

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the course of a weekend. 
And then once you make 

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something, that begins momentum.
And so you keep on going and 

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going. 
My buddy Tom who does games on 

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the start. 
Of Maker games, yeah. 

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He also really enjoys doing jams
and stuff like that, he said. 

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It really challenges him to do 
stuff and yeah, so he recommends

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doing stuff like that as well. 
So I had that on my mind and 

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then I was watching. 
There's a show I watch a lot. 

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It's an art show called Droffy 
and it's like kind of an improv 

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comedy show where they half the 
episodes are like improv comedy 

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where they like draw stuff while
they're like chatting with each 

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other live. 
And in the other half they do 

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like more serious drawings. 
So they time lapse it and didn't

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just talk about the process as 
they play it back in. 

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They call it a speed draw. 
But this episode they did 

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recently was called 4 Artists 
work in a medium they've never 

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worked in before. 
And so one of them did like, you

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know, wood carving or wood or 
wood blocks. 

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One of them did sculpting and 
blender. 

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One of them did like a a wood 
diorama that like moved like a 

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train moving around a a house or
something like that. 

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But the one that really 
interested me was the one guy 

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started off saying I'm going to 
do pixel art. 

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And so he the thing opens up on 
a Sprite. 

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I'm like, oh cool dear. 
Love to see this guy do pixel 

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art. 
He's going to do art of the 

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these original characters that 
they have on one of their sub 

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shows. 
And so I'm watching, I'm like, 

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that's pretty cool. 
And he's like, well, I've done 

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the sprites, but it's not 
satisfying. 

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This doesn't feel like it's 
enough for a full episode. 

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So then he starts doing like 
portraits for the characters. 

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Like you know how in RPGs when 
characters speak or like 

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adventure games have like the 
little portraits and he's like 

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doing a few little expressions 
for each of the characters. 

447
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,240
Like, you know what, if I'm 
going to go to all this trouble,

448
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,360
I might as well at least just 
see them in action. 

449
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,760
And so he gets to doe and make 
it over the course of the next 

450
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,680
17 hours. 
What was started off as a I'm 

451
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,400
going to draw a few sprites of 
these characters turns into a 

452
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,200
small one room adventure game 
that he completely makes from 

453
00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,880
scratch with no background in 
computer programming. 

454
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:43,480
Nice. 
And so I've watched that and I'm

455
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,760
like, you know what man, that's 
inspirational. 

456
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,480
I've just watched it done. 
I'm sure that I could do 

457
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:50,960
something like that if I set my 
mind to it. 

458
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,840
So I gave myself the goal that I
woke up super early that day. 

459
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,520
It was like 4:00 AM when I was 
watching that. 

460
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:59,600
And so I gave myself the goal to
make give myself a 36 hour game 

461
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,640
jam for just myself. 
So the idea was I would make AI 

462
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,400
would do what Thor's website 
said, make a design document 

463
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,680
with all the goals of the 
program and all the steps I need

464
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,960
to do to make the game and then 
just sit there and spend most of

465
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,480
the next 36 hours pounding out a
game. 

466
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:18,960
So I had to learn stuff in Gadot
with the coding and in the 

467
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,800
environment I had to, I actually
got into Reaper to make sound 

468
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,440
effects and a couple of music 
tracks. 

469
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,160
And So what was the other 
program is I did some pixel art,

470
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,600
a Sprite, just like make a 
couple backgrounds and stuff. 

471
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:36,280
And I felt like over the course 
of it, like 36 hours later, I'd 

472
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:41,640
put out basically it's more of a
demo of a game than a full game,

473
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,400
but it's a completely playable 
demo. 

474
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:47,160
And it's basically like kind of 
a clone of the NES game Marble 

475
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,760
Madness. 
That's what's up. 

476
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,000
All right, Yeah. 
That's like, that's a game I'm 

477
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:52,840
obsessed with. 
I'm actually the 9th place 

478
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,520
scorer on retro achievements on 
that game because I just love to

479
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:59,200
pull that out and play with it, 
and I am very satisfied with how

480
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,280
much my game superficially 
resembles Marble Madness now. 

481
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,360
It doesn't have all the features
and there's still some moments 

482
00:24:04,360 --> 00:24:06,720
in the physics where the 
collision gets wonky on slopes, 

483
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,080
like especially for some reason 
that the ball thinks it's 

484
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,920
falling if it hits slope a 
certain way and it kind of 

485
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,320
freezes there and kills itself. 
But like, there's so much stuff 

486
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,320
that was so fun to implement. 
You should take your your 

487
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:25,280
character, your titular, titular
ball and make it slightly ovular

488
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,960
and then call your game 
irregular insanity. 

489
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,920
And dude, I'm telling you, 
because people would be like, 

490
00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:35,320
oh, I get it. 
It's kind of like Marble 

491
00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:36,560
Madness. 
Regular insanity. 

492
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:37,320
Oh, yeah. 
What was it? 

493
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,000
Only like couple bucks? 
Oh yeah, I'll throw it at that. 

494
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,280
So that's what I'm thinking of 
doing, is actually trying to 

495
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,280
develop it, like consider this a
demo and then make a sequel of 

496
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,800
it over the course of maybe a 
week. 

497
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,480
That's like something I can at 
least put on Itch as a bias. 

498
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,120
You like it or maybe put it on, 
try to get it on Steam for 199 

499
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,080
or something. 
You know, because the main 

500
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:57,800
problem with what I made was by 
the time I was in the last three

501
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,480
hours, I really didn't feel like
designing levels anymore. 

502
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,240
So I basically whipped out like 
3 really quick levels. 

503
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,880
And so the actual they just 
basically show off how the 

504
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:09,680
mechanics work. 
Like it isn't really a full game

505
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,000
with really good levels yet or 
anything, but so. 

506
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:13,960
You're telling me when I play 
it, when I get to the end, it's 

507
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,040
going to be like, man, that was 
a good game. 

508
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,000
But they felt like they rushed 
the ending, like maybe they ran 

509
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,720
out of funding or something. 
Yeah, that's my Kickstarter. 

510
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,320
I ran on my Kickstarter funds, 
which was 1/4. 

511
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:26,200
I found a circle. 
Hey, it was heads up though, so 

512
00:25:26,360 --> 00:25:28,200
good luck. 
Yeah, I would have. 

513
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,160
Expected you to be getting into 
like jumping in with making your

514
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:36,040
own doom mods first. 
You know, I have on and off been

515
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,240
making doom levels from time to 
time, but I tend to do this 

516
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,560
thing where I almost make 
something, get frustrated with 

517
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,120
one thing that's bothering me, 
quit for a while, and then 

518
00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:45,840
forget everything I learned last
time. 

519
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,080
That's why I was so awesome to 
actually finish this game. 

520
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,880
Like to set up a complete 
document that says everything I 

521
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,000
want to have done within the 
next 36 hours and then do all of

522
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,080
it. 
Because now I have all this 

523
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,800
experience with specific things.
Like there's a workflow in my 

524
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,120
head now. 
Like when I make this, you know,

525
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:09,080
next, you know, like I know that
when I add a like a kill zone to

526
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,280
the maps in my game, like I 
don't have the built in 

527
00:26:12,360 --> 00:26:14,800
collision area, so I need to add
a separate collision area 

528
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,760
because I didn't want them to 
inherit a collision area. 

529
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,400
I wanted to make it separate 
every time. 

530
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,600
And so that is that. 
And like there's so many little 

531
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,240
solutions I had to figure out 
too on the fly. 

532
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,800
Like in Marble Madness, when 
your ball trashes off the stage,

533
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,960
it comes back to somewhere near 
where it was originally. 

534
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,200
And so at first I'm like, OK, 
well, do I ask the ball to 

535
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,320
remember where it's been and 
when the last time it felt safe 

536
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,960
was? 
And I thought about more like, 

537
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:41,120
or I could designate like little
areas of the stage to be like 

538
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,120
checkpoints and then have a 
respawn point that corresponds 

539
00:26:44,120 --> 00:26:46,320
to wherever the highest 
checkpoint you reach, they can 

540
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,800
enumerate them. 
And then it became like it 

541
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,160
basically all wired itself up 
because all I had to do was say 

542
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,080
this is checkpoint one, this is 
spawn .1, this is checkpoint 2, 

543
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:56,480
this is spawn .2. 
And then just like whatever the 

544
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,880
highest number one you run into 
automatically. 

545
00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:01,080
Like you didn't have to do any 
more coding at that point. 

546
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,160
And it was just really cool to 
see how everything came together

547
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:07,040
just by modeling it and solving 
problems you know if. 

548
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,280
You ever? 
If you want to do a hard mode, 

549
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,480
you could just have it where the
respawn point is always goes 

550
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,120
back to the beginning. 
Yeah, I thought about making a 

551
00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:18,800
hard mode with fewer respawn 
points and a harsher timer. 

552
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,680
That's definitely one of the 
features I did want to add was 

553
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,760
making extra difficulties 
because I wanted to make a 

554
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,640
beginner mode too that had like 
a designated break button so you

555
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,080
could kind of slow the thing 
down a lot more easily. 

556
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,960
And if you ever want some like 
little voice over things like. 

557
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,200
You are dead. 
Things like that, Like just let 

558
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,600
me know. 
Like I can do that kind of 

559
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,480
stuff. 
Yeah, but I was super pleased 

560
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,200
that I ended up making 
everything myself. 

561
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,600
Like I even made a like a bitmap
font for everything. 

562
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:45,520
Like it's one of the things that
didn't they spray. 

563
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,840
It was like a bitmap font. 
So I could practice building it 

564
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,840
out into a Sprite sheet and then
breaking the Sprite sheet down 

565
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,680
in Guido. 
I also did like a cursor that 

566
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,000
way, even though most of the 
program is in 3D, like it's 

567
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,560
similar a simple polygons and 
meshes and stuff. 

568
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,080
But that part, and you know, the
weird thing too, is I feel like 

569
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600
programming in 3D was almost 
easier than 2D in some ways, 

570
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,080
because so much of the physics 
are handled by the physics 

571
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,720
engine that I don't have, that 
it's already abstracted for me 

572
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,880
and I don't have to model so 
much stuff myself, you know? 

573
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,560
I tell you, I've, I've got a, a 
few different programs for like 

574
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,160
making games and stuff, you 
know, between RPG Maker and then

575
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,320
like some other ones that you 
probably, you know, people 

576
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:21,680
normally people would have never
heard of. 

577
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,160
But one that I have is Visual 
novel Maker. 

578
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,960
And I've been very interested in
that because I like, I like 

579
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,800
writing. 
So like if I could come up with 

580
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:32,640
some cool stuff and do it. 
My problem is visual novel maker

581
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,960
actually way more fucking in 
depth than you would think. 

582
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,960
Because like you know you, you 
have to, I have to almost have 

583
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:41,720
like I need to write out like 
branches if I want to do like. 

584
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,280
The hotness in making visual 
novels these days independently 

585
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,000
is a program called Renpie 
because it uses like a. 

586
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,160
Mess with that one. 
Yeah, that's what Doki Doki 

587
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,480
Literature Club was made in and 
I think had a full boyfriend 

588
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,040
too, so it it gets results. 
I was going to say, yeah, those 

589
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,160
are both hits. 
So, but yeah, it's just, you 

590
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,720
know, it seems fun, but also 
like, I'm not an animator. 

591
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,800
So like as far as coming up with
my own character sprites and 

592
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,840
stuff, like I, I can't do that. 
Yeah, that's one other thing I'm

593
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:10,800
thinking about doing too, is 
collaborating with a couple 

594
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,840
people I know that are like 
artists or something. 

595
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,680
So I can I can do like the 
coding pixels and music and then

596
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,000
let someone else handle those 
things. 

597
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,760
Or maybe I could tap you for 
music for a different game at 

598
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,680
some point. 
I did do I did do a little music

599
00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,560
for this game and I'm pretty 
happy with how some of it turned

600
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,240
out because like I said, I said 
I did everything myself. 

601
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,160
That's not true. 
One song in the program uses 

602
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,400
sample drums that someone else 
made the samples for. 

603
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,680
So there's like someone elses 
snare drum, kick drum and 

604
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,880
symbols on it. 
But even then I put I put in 

605
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,080
like the reverb and all that and
you know, mastery myself. 

606
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,080
So it ain't made the music. 
It's like I took the pattern 

607
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:50,200
from any, but it's just a sample
of each and I work, as, you 

608
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,520
know, sequenced it. 
So like I feel really good about

609
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,000
how much just production I got 
done in 36 hours. 

610
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,160
And it makes me feel like if I 
wanted to, I could do more 

611
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,520
simple things or start trying to
set out to make something small 

612
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,800
but commercial, you know? 
For sure man. 

613
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:06,240
So I'm proud. 
Of you, bud. 

614
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:08,760
I want to try to put the game 
somewhere where people can 

615
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,840
download it. 
I'm definitely going to at least

616
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:15,080
link you guys but I don't like. 
I have discord Nitro for a 

617
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:19,360
month, can I like just upload 
the zip file into the steam 

618
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,600
machines, the discord channels 
or? 

619
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:27,320
That or you could zip it and 
upload it to Google Drive and 

620
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,040
then set the link to where 
anybody could view it and then 

621
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:31,600
just post that link and then pin
it. 

622
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,080
That's a good idea too, yeah. 
That way anybody can just pop on

623
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:36,040
there and down. 
Straightforward. 

624
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,880
Yeah. 
I mean, that's already kind of 

625
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,880
how I do the podcast recording 
in the 1st place, so. 

626
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,880
Exactly, just just like that. 
But instead of sending it to me,

627
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,760
you just send it to the the show
itself, the discord. 

628
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,760
Because if it's over 500 
megabytes. 

629
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:52,120
It's not. 
It's only 80. 

630
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,680
I think it's only 50 zipped 
actually. 50 zips then I think 

631
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,920
even then if you don't have 
Nitro it would still be like 25 

632
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,840
megabytes at their limit. 
I don't it's some stupid thing 

633
00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,760
that they implemented. 
At some point it's very small. 

634
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,640
I temporarily have Nitro but 
it's just some monthly giveaway.

635
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,280
I will never forget. 
I recorded myself playing guitar

636
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,320
one time to show you and Nate 
actually, and it was too big to 

637
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,200
send. 
So I signed up for a month of 

638
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,880
Nitro with money that I didn't 
really have and it was still too

639
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,040
big to send and I was fucking 
furious. 

640
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,360
That is garbage, yeah. 
So if anyone wants to play my 

641
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,440
game, it's called Rumb. 
What's it called? 

642
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,920
Rumbling rollers. 
And that's just that we're 

643
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,360
working title. 
I might change the name when I 

644
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,440
make the full version of it, but
it's fine. 

645
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,920
I like I like playing with it. 
I it's I made the last level too

646
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,280
hard because I'm mean. 
That's fine. 

647
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,600
As Marvel bad as NES hard. 
Yeah, but The thing is, the 

648
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,720
Marvel Madness's levels are a 
lot longer than what I ended up 

649
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,720
making, too. 
I don't feel happy with filling 

650
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,320
through my levels so when I make
the full game like all the 

651
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,160
levels are going to need to be 
at least twice as long. 

652
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,960
I'm still terrible at that game.
I think the most I've ever done 

653
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,880
was like maybe level 4. 
That's not bad. 

654
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,960
It's a pretty tough game. 
It's one of those ones where 

655
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,080
it's just like you have to keep 
practicing and there's a risk 

656
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,520
reward to it too, where you want
to take chances to keep from 

657
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,680
running out of time, but that 
gets you killed too and ends up 

658
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,120
being worse for your time. 
There's a game in my Steam 

659
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,680
library that I bet you would 
really fucking like Willie and I

660
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,200
cannot remember the name of it 
right now, but it's you play 

661
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,720
like a rolling boulder going 
through levels. 

662
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,800
Oh yeah, you. 
This is one of the ones we were 

663
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:25,360
looking into doing before we 
ended up settling on Paganitsu 

664
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:26,840
for that week that Nathan was on
the show. 

665
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:30,080
Yeah, I remember that Sun maybe 
is what it's. 

666
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,680
Called. 
That sounds right. 

667
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,280
Yeah, that sounds right. 
Something like that, yeah. 

668
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,240
Might be one that'd be 
interesting to check out for the

669
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,160
show. 
Also, Dan, how about my memory 

670
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,120
on that one, huh? 
Like literally remember you said

671
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,640
it to me when we did Paganitsu. 
Yeah, yeah, I mean, fucking 

672
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,960
Paganitsa was such a weird game.
Yeah, it was really of its time.

673
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,080
I mean, it it couldn't really 
decide whether it wanted to be a

674
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,720
straight up Sokoban game or if 
it wanted to be kind of like a 

675
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,800
action puzzler. 
And I think it kind of did the 

676
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:56,440
worst of both worlds, but it was
still charming. 

677
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Yeah, yeah, it was interesting 
for sure. 

678
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,400
So anything else you can talk to
brother? 

679
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,200
Oh, Ben, I think that was the 
main thing. 

680
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,000
So yeah, on the Truck Simulator 
games, I'm, I still haven't even

681
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,360
finished going all the way east 
in Europe yet. 

682
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:12,000
Like I've been to 8 of the 12 
countries, but I haven't been to

683
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,280
like the Far East ones of the 
default countries. 

684
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:21,360
So like also the moment I went 
into Austria, the very moment I 

685
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,960
went into Austria, I got an 
unauthorized border crossing 

686
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,720
because I took a weird detour by
accident. 

687
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,560
I think I went down the car 
lanes to the truck lane and then

688
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,680
immediately afterwards the same 
day it was noon and I got like 

689
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:36,480
fined for not using my 
headlights because it was 

690
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,240
slightly cloudy. 
So anyway, Austria you got you 

691
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,080
got some answering due to me. 
I thought about you. 

692
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,480
I was playing American Truck 
Simulator and I was driving 

693
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,160
through somewhere and it was 
like 2:00 PM and I got flagged 

694
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,080
for not using my headlights. 
Yeah, because I bitched about 

695
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,160
that when it happened, because I
said some choice things about 

696
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,640
Austria that I didn't really 
mean. 

697
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,520
Yeah, and I, I had to quickly 
correct you and say, like going 

698
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:59,280
through Powerbomb and you're 
like, oh, you know what, You're 

699
00:33:59,280 --> 00:33:59,840
right. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

700
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,760
Don't talk and keep me in line. 
I am, I am not challenging that.

701
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:08,159
There, I didn't get out. 
Yeah, man, I I've been dabbling 

702
00:34:08,159 --> 00:34:09,679
in those games too somewhat 
recently. 

703
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,679
They're fun. 
They're really just relaxing. 

704
00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:14,159
Yeah, it's weird that I find it 
relaxing too, because the first 

705
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:16,440
couple of times I wrote it, I 
found it really stressful, in 

706
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,440
part because I started in 
Scotland and I'm not used to 

707
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:20,639
driving on the left side of the 
road. 

708
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,760
And I thought it would be really
simple, but my brain did not map

709
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,600
right turn equals the hard 1. 
And so like it just, it really 

710
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:31,480
messes me for a while. 
But now I'm just hanging out in 

711
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,560
Continental. 
You're up doing deliveries, just

712
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,440
continuously going from place to
place. 

713
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,440
And even then, though, I felt 
like once I switched back from 

714
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,639
euro to American, also because I
had a trip in Nevada. 

715
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,560
And so I went from, you know, 80
kilometers an hour maximum speed

716
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:50,320
in most of Europe to 80 mph in 
Nevada, just screaming across 

717
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,800
the desert. 
And it was a real different 

718
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,480
feeling. 
Oh man, it's a it's a shitty 

719
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,160
feeling when you're like going 
just slightly over where you're 

720
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,080
safe to cruise control at. 
So I usually cruise control. 

721
00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:03,760
Yeah, I've been cruise 
controlling lately too. 

722
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640
So it's like I do that and then 
all of a sudden you're coming 

723
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:10,480
up, you're in two lane traffic 
and there are cars in both lanes

724
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,600
and you, they're spaced just 
enough that you cannot go around

725
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,560
either of them. 
And it's like I don't have time 

726
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,280
to slow down for I'm about to 
hit one of these fuckers. 

727
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,680
Unfortunately, Choo Choo. 
Yeah, all the board BA boom. 

728
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,280
Yeah, great. 
Great fucking games man. 

729
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,160
Wait till you pick a delivery 
that takes you back into England

730
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:31,480
like that. 
Transition. 

731
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,360
No, but. 
Like it's just weird going from 

732
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,800
like the spot where like you're 
driving on the left to all of a 

733
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,880
sudden you just like make this 
transition. 

734
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,480
Suddenly you're just driving on 
the right side of the road. 

735
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,760
See, the only, the only way I've
gotten to and from the UK was 

736
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,800
the port and Rotterdam, 
Netherlands. 

737
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,720
So I'm used to just taking the 
ferry across and so I have a 

738
00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:54,280
little time to adjust, you know?
That's fair. 

739
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,920
That's fair. 
Well, I I have been dabbling in 

740
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,840
a little truck simulator as I've
been talking about. 

741
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:01,800
I don't need to dabble in to 
talk about that because we've 

742
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:05,840
been talking about it. 
I have also like sank my teeth 

743
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,080
back into two games in 
particular, one being a Final 

744
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,680
Fantasy 11. 
Yeah, that would be really 

745
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,200
interesting in seeing this 
because that's the older MMO 

746
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,560
that's like not the current one.
That's all the buzz. 

747
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,760
So what brought you back into 
11? 

748
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,240
I just started thinking about 
it. 

749
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,840
I was looking for an MMO to 
play, but not 14 because it's 

750
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,160
just something about 14. 
Last time I paid for a month of 

751
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,320
it, it just didn't do anything 
for me, you know what I mean? 

752
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,840
So I was playing some Guild 
Wars, I played some Black 

753
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,440
Desert, I installed a few 
different games and I'm like, 

754
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:40,400
none of these are really 
hitting. 

755
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,280
Let me, let me go back to I was 
almost going to try World of 

756
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:47,080
Warcraft and I was like, yeah, 
you know, let me, let me get 

757
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:51,000
Final Fantasy 11 a try again. 
And I loaded in and I played for

758
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,720
a while as my Gawka. 
And I was like, you know what, 

759
00:36:53,720 --> 00:36:56,120
this is good. 
And then like I made a second 

760
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,560
character a human. 
And I made it on the most 

761
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,200
populated server for North 
America instead of the one that 

762
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,640
I was on with Miller. 
And I've been leveling that 

763
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,800
character as a he's a human. 
And it's interesting going 

764
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,720
through all of the stuff again 
because it's like, damn, I 

765
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:12,560
forgot how much I had already 
done on my Gawka. 

766
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,240
Jesus, there's so much to do. 
But I've been really enjoying 

767
00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:16,200
it. 
I thought about, I've been 

768
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,160
thinking about streaming it at 
least into the discord and you 

769
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,120
guys can see how archaic but 
charming it is. 

770
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:25,680
It plays a lot like Final 
Fantasy 12, like Final Fantasy 

771
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:30,800
12 was basically their offline 
MMO as far as the fighting goes 

772
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,200
back then. 
But I I've been really having a 

773
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:37,800
good time with it. 
And then the other game that I'm

774
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:43,480
playing is because a expansion 
came out and no, it's not 

775
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,400
Starfield. 
I returned to that expansion and

776
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,400
got my money back. 
Oh wow, so that that's too bad, 

777
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,520
because it sounded like you were
ready for Starfield to actually 

778
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,680
be kind of good. 
I just needed the money, so I 

779
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,520
will check it out again down the
line. 

780
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,880
You know, it was one of those 
were like I spent more than I 

781
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,280
thought I did. 
So I was like, well, let me 

782
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,360
return the things I'm not super 
stoked about. 

783
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,720
I'd never forget Sean Murray 
never charges us for his DLC. 

784
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,160
Yes. 
And we need to get back into No 

785
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,680
Man's Sky, baby. 
For sure dude I agree. 

786
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:17,120
So Diablo 4 vessel of hatred 
came out and I I had pre-ordered

787
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:19,200
it. 
So when it when it dropped I 

788
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:24,280
went ahead I loaded in and I saw
the new class, which is spirit 

789
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:27,080
something spirit caller, spirit 
warrior, something like that 

790
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,360
right. 
I was like, well I'll make one 

791
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,480
of these and try it since it's 
the new class and made him a 

792
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:36,440
season character and started in 
the new season, which is the DLC

793
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,160
content. 
So I have not even gotten 

794
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,960
halfway through the base game. 
But now I'm playing the DLC and 

795
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:47,040
it's real fucking good, dude. 
Like it is real good. 

796
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,880
It's so fun, the combat's great.
Here's the crazy thing that I 

797
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:54,120
never thought I would say I 
prefer playing this game with a 

798
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,320
controller. 
For Diablo. 

799
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,760
For Diablo. 
That's really well. 

800
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,760
When you think about like the 
PS1 version and all that, being 

801
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,480
like the whole time you're 
playing that you're like, I just

802
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,840
wish this was a mouse and 
keyboard. 

803
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,800
Yeah, and don't get me wrong, 
mouse and keyboard is probably 

804
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,320
still the better way to play, 
but I've just found like they 

805
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,000
have figured out a way to make 
the controls comfortable on a 

806
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,000
controller. 
And I that's got to be because 

807
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,040
this game's out on Xbox and 
stuff now too. 

808
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,040
Like so they had to make it work
right? 

809
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,880
Because PlayStation back then 
that was like that was the first

810
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,920
foray. 
Like they give them a little 

811
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,360
leeway, but not a ton because 
it's like you could have anyway,

812
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,360
it doesn't matter. 
But like I'm really enjoying it.

813
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:34,840
The Diablo does gothic horror 
aesthetic like almost second to 

814
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:38,160
none to anybody. 
Like they are just so good at 

815
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:43,800
what they do. 
The the combat is fun, hard, 

816
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:48,680
difficult, but like rewarding 
the gore and stuff visceral. 

817
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520
There's a lot of evil going on, 
of course, because it's a Diablo

818
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,720
game really really making me 
want to possibly play one of the

819
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,520
older ones for the show. 
OK, like. 

820
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,120
You know, I'm kind of surprised 
we never circled back around to 

821
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:04,640
like, V rising. 
Yeah, yeah, That was another one

822
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,960
that's like a Diablo style, but 
almost like different because 

823
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,520
it's got the, it's almost like 
Diablo meets Valheim. 

824
00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:11,280
Yeah, it's just that building 
element to it. 

825
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,280
Yeah. 
It did seem neat though, I kind 

826
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,840
of. 
I did get a real feeling of that

827
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:19,400
game that like I knew what I was
building to do next, which I 

828
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,080
sometimes don't have in clicky 
ARPG. 

829
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,440
But like that, Torchlight was 
another one that looked like it 

830
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,520
was a lot of fun. 
I think that would be good to do

831
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,360
for the show. 
And then you go like even on my 

832
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,280
GOG, like I got Sacred one and 
two Knox, which the story for 

833
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:36,720
Knox is interesting. 
It's just like you're just a 

834
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:40,080
regular kid that gets sucked 
into his TV and then then boom, 

835
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,960
you're in the game. 
And then there's also like 

836
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,800
silver, like there's all kinds 
of Diablo clones out there that 

837
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,560
I have on GOG that it would that
would be fun. 

838
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,520
But we'll get to those one day, 
one day. 

839
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,560
And what else? 
I listened to the Red Shirt 

840
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:00,760
Cinema Club episode on Alien. 
They all quite enjoyed it. 

841
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:05,440
I would say that they all, much 
like U3, enjoyed it much more 

842
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:08,040
than I did, but that's OK. 
But it was a it was an 

843
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:09,520
entertaining episode. 
I felt like it was a good 

844
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,600
companion piece to the Dan and 
Jeff's media dump episode on 

845
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,040
Alien. 
I mean, I feel like. 

846
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,880
Ultimately got that episode 
queued up to check out at some 

847
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,680
point. 
Ultimately, I just feel like you

848
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:20,800
didn't get quite what you 
expected out of Alien because I 

849
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,760
think you you wanted either. 
I think you wanted it to either 

850
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,600
be more action or more straight 
horror and you got kind of a 

851
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,800
thriller or something, you know?
Yeah, I wanted more horror like 

852
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,600
I didn't want. 
So again, I want to say this for

853
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:37,000
this show, I wanted the ending 
of Alien to be OK. 

854
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:39,440
She gets all sexy in her 
underwear or whatever. 

855
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,200
She's in that. 
She's vulnerable. 

856
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,120
All of a sudden the alien is in 
that fucking final ship with 

857
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,880
her, right? 
The alien is supposed to be the 

858
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,480
perfect creature, the perfect 
hunter and all of that, and 

859
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,480
you're going to tell me that 
like some person just outsmarts 

860
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,800
it and boosts it out the fucking
ship? 

861
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,400
No, that thing would have 
slaughtered her and then. 

862
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,880
So if you think you're the 
perfect hunter, right, that's 

863
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:02,960
when hubris kicks in. 
That's what got the Predator 

864
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,000
too, man. 
Yeah, but I don't think that the

865
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:06,560
alien thinks it's the perfect 
hunter. 

866
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,720
It just is. 
I don't really know what the 

867
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:11,680
aliens think to be honest. 
I've only seen Alien one and 

868
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,360
that movie does nothing to tell 
you anything except for those. 

869
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:17,280
Life cycle is freaky. 
But like, I just feel like that 

870
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,360
they should have been like her 
going to lay down. 

871
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,920
And as she's doing it, all of a 
sudden it's just like some 

872
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,320
dribble drops on her and she 
looks up and there's the alien 

873
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,000
and then it cuts back to her. 
Sigourney Weiner. 

874
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:32,040
Sigourney Weiner. 
Well, there's a drag name for 

875
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:36,080
y'all. 
Sigourney Weaver just screaming.

876
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,160
You Sigourney O Weiner. 
And just covers her face. 

877
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,160
The screen cuts the black. 
It's just insinuated she dies 

878
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,800
like Tony Soprano. 
I, I don't know, man, I feel 

879
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,640
like half of the slasher movies 
going on did that thing where 

880
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,160
it's like, there's the last 
girl, she's safe at home, just 

881
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,160
kidding. 
The end. 

882
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:54,360
And it works because all those 
movies are classics. 

883
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:56,640
So is Alien. 
Yeah. 

884
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:58,800
Suck it. 
I mean, yeah. 

885
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Most iconic movie monster of the
US. 

886
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,400
That's an interesting question. 
I wonder if I have any debate. 

887
00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,080
I mean, because a lot of the 
figures that you think of when 

888
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,720
you think of the early ones are 
based on literature and not all 

889
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,200
of those. 
Most of those weren't American 

890
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,600
characters. 
So we can't take Freddie for 

891
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,560
like Frankenstein, for instance.
I would argue that when you come

892
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:22,280
to like modern era, and I, I'll 
say loosely, modern era at the 

893
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,400
last 100 years as far as cinema 
goes, the most iconic movie 

894
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:27,720
monsters. 
Wait last 100 years like you're 

895
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:30,440
saying everything after like 
Lavroy Las de la Luna? 

896
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960
So anything that's you know. 
Citizen Kane. 

897
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,480
Unique to cinema. 
Something that's unique to 

898
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,840
cinema. 
But you're saying Godzilla? 

899
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,360
Is the most monster is going to 
be. 

900
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,440
God, I think that's correct. 
But and I would say the 

901
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,000
Xenomorph is probably second. 
And you would. 

902
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,800
Very close, say the. 
Temptation to there is to argue 

903
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,680
King Kong against Godzilla, and 
that's when you just completely 

904
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,720
lose the you lose the track 
because Godzilla's a different 

905
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,680
kind of thing. 
You know Godzilla is the 

906
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,400
spearhead of an entire genre, 
whereas King Kong is the best of

907
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:07,960
a different but related genre. 
King Kong is in the realm of 

908
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,240
hey, let's take an animal and 
make it enormous. 

909
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,200
Yeah, but it's King Kong. 
'S a giant monkey. 

910
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,360
Yeah, that's, that's what I'm 
saying. 

911
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,960
It's it's like them. 
It's basically the perfect 

912
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,200
version of something like them, 
whereas when. 

913
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,800
You're looking at something 
that's made, something that does

914
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,320
not exist. 
You know, I would say Godzilla 

915
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,800
is probably the most iconic 
modern monster. 

916
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,240
Xenomorph close second. 
And then you can kind of make 

917
00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,960
arguments for past lab. 
Why are you doing this? 

918
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:41,960
You ain't lagging freaks. 
I think Jaws should probably be 

919
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,360
on there somewhere, but again, 
that's Take Creature. 

920
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,280
Make Big Jaws is definitely one 
of those ones where it's a movie

921
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,320
that changed things cuz people 
weren't really afraid of sharks 

922
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,600
going into that. 
Which I think is very 

923
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,640
interesting because that is a 
huge phobia these days. 

924
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,880
But at the time people were just
like, it's a fish, whatever, who

925
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,160
gives a shit? 
I read a book when I was a kid 

926
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,720
that was about a like a 
beachside resort that had 

927
00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,280
saltwater pools that would get 
their water flow in from the 

928
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,720
ocean and then somehow cycled. 
I don't remember what book this 

929
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:14,840
was but ended up that sharks 
like got into the pools and like

930
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:18,720
would were attacking people and 
I had a pool in my backyard. 

931
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:21,360
Nowhere near saltwater, just 
some chlorine ass water. 

932
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:25,360
You can see through it. 
I used to get petrified that if 

933
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,640
I was underwater with my eyes 
closed that a shark was somehow 

934
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,160
swimming to get me. 
Dude, that was just the 

935
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,640
stupidest thing, but I used to 
get some serious anxiety about 

936
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:33,880
it. 
One of the best. 

937
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,560
More danger of a Gator. 
One of the best. 

938
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,800
I was going to say. 
You get something much worse. 

939
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:41,000
Yeah, one of the best running 
jokes or one of the best jokes. 

940
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,520
I went early. 
My brother, my brother in the 

941
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:45,480
episodes was Justin Macker 
really talking about his fear of

942
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,160
sharks, even when he was in 
swimming pools. 

943
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,240
And they were like, you know, 
that the pool's completely 

944
00:45:49,240 --> 00:45:51,200
clear. 
He's a glass shark. 

945
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,120
Glass shark loves the fat kid. 
Might be invisible. 

946
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:56,920
Yeah, exactly. 
Looking at it, maybe it's a 

947
00:45:56,920 --> 00:45:59,520
weeping Angel shark. 
Yeah, that's basically what he 

948
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:00,640
was saying. 
He was a he was a kid. 

949
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,760
He was scared for no reason. 
It's like kid fears do not care 

950
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,160
about logic. 
Yeah, yeah. 

951
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,480
Like you go back and watch the 
episodes of Are You Afraid of 

952
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,360
the Dark that made you scared to
go into the basement? 

953
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:12,960
Because there were a couple of 
them for me. 

954
00:46:13,240 --> 00:46:15,200
And it's like none of it even 
made any sense. 

955
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,720
We didn't have like an evil 
clown tombstone in the garage or

956
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:21,160
whatever. 
Yeah, I, I would like to go back

957
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:22,680
and watch the episode Are You 
Afraid of the Dark? 

958
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,280
That made me scared so bad. 
I cried when I was a kid. 

959
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,520
That was the one, the vampire 
one that came out of the screen 

960
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:30,240
in the theater. 
And. 

961
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,520
Killing everybody. 
I I thought you've had this 

962
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,920
discussion a few times because 
every time you say that one 

963
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,200
episode of Are You Afraid of the
Dark? 

964
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,480
I'm like, yeah, the one with the
swimming pool with the red 

965
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,920
monster. 
And you're like, no, that what 

966
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:42,440
every time we always miss like 
that. 

967
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:45,360
No the vampire, no Sarathi 1. 
Oh man, have you seen the 

968
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,360
episode of what's her name, 
Pushing Roses? 

969
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:51,240
I think where she talks about 
the the one about the plant, the

970
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:52,960
plant guy like that one was 
really good. 

971
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:57,200
No, I do know that Papa Meat has
a few videos covering different 

972
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,440
goosebumps stuff that I want. 
I definitely got to check that. 

973
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,920
Yeah. 
That. 

974
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,840
Sounds so fucked up shit too. 
I haven't actually finished 

975
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,120
watching or even started 
watching the Wendy's 1 you sent 

976
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,040
me because I didn't. 
I couldn't figure out how much 

977
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,720
attention I need to pay for it 
so I didn't know if I would want

978
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:12,400
to put that on law truck drive 
in or something. 

979
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,560
No, you can just you can listen 
to that one. 

980
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,920
It's just ridiculousness. 
It's all about the the Wendy's 

981
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,520
training videos where like they 
would do all the like they made 

982
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,720
them all songs. 
Like hot drinks and cool drinks,

983
00:47:23,720 --> 00:47:25,680
yeah. 
Yes, exactly. 

984
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:27,920
So it's all that kind of shit 
and just him making fun of it 

985
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,520
for like, you know, 30 minutes. 
One time I had a dream that I 

986
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,400
found VHS tape or something like
that but it was for pic pack 

987
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,400
employees and so that all the 
pic pack departments were just 

988
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,520
like rapping about like how good
the potatoes the deli were. 

989
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,320
Tremendous. 
Well boys, an hour into the 

990
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,440
episode, would you guys like to 
maybe talk about something we're

991
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,680
here to talk about? 
So we got some O dubs. 

992
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,800
No, some house lady. 
We could skip this. 

993
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,360
It was a good episode, thanks 
you could find. 

994
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:58,440
Obligatory. 
So, Dane, you have a quiz. 

995
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,640
The obligatory Wikipedia 
bullshit. 

996
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,320
You all. 
Shut your dirty whore mouths, 

997
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,400
Alien Isolation. 
Rebelling. 

998
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:11,440
Is a 2014 survival horror game 
developed by Creative Assembly 

999
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:14,920
and published by Sega for the 
PlayStation 3, PlayStation 4, 

1000
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,920
Windows 360. 
Sega. 

1001
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,480
And the Xbox One based on the 
Alien film series. 

1002
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:27,440
The game is set 15 years after 
the original 1979 film and 

1003
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,600
follows the engineer Amanda 
Ripley, voiced by Andrea Deck. 

1004
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,120
Amanda investigates the 
disappearance of her mother, 

1005
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,960
Ellen Ripley, aboard the space 
station Sevastopol. 

1006
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:44,440
Think I said that right? 
Which the Sylvestopol Stallone 

1007
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,320
which has fallen into disarray 
due to an It is. 

1008
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,160
Already a way better. 
Game. 

1009
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:56,240
Has fallen into disarray. 
Let's go. 

1010
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,480
On the loose, that have been a 
very different Expendables 

1011
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:02,040
movie. 
The game emphasizes stealth and 

1012
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:05,280
survival horror gameplay. 
OK, hold on, fuck this for a 

1013
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,000
second. 
The Expendables versus Alien 

1014
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:08,520
versus Predator would have been 
great. 

1015
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,640
Or it's just Alien versus 
Predator versus all of the old 

1016
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,920
action guys. 
Like watching Arnold 

1017
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,360
Schwarzenegger just meet up with
a Predator again. 

1018
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,680
At the end, all of a sudden, 
Jason and Freddie walk by, still

1019
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,000
fighting. 
Yeah, like like the chicken and 

1020
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:26,360
the Peter fighting by the back. 
I'm still mad they never met 

1021
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,880
you. 
Freddie versus Jason versus Ash.

1022
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:31,280
They at least got a comic book 
series out of it, apparently. 

1023
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,840
So that's, I guess we're 
checking out if you want to see 

1024
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,240
how it would have turned out. 
I mean, Bruce Campbell always 

1025
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:38,760
wins. 
I need to watch the newer Bruce 

1026
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,560
Campbell stuff like the Ash 
versus the Evil Dead and all 

1027
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:43,680
that. 
I've heard nothing but good 

1028
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,040
things. 
As fucking. 

1029
00:49:45,240 --> 00:49:46,920
Ash versus the evil dad is. 
Awesome. 

1030
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,280
It's fucking great. 
You know what movie I want to 

1031
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,120
see that I think was either him 
or Sam Raimi. 

1032
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,280
It was one of the two, but I've 
never watched it. 

1033
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,400
I remember commercials, I 
remember the cover for it. 

1034
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,480
And Movie Gallery was fucking 
Bubba Hotep. 

1035
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,480
I actually did rent Bubba Hotep.
That was a Bruce Campbell joint,

1036
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,080
and it had a pretty good amount 
of heart to it. 

1037
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,200
We rented it as a whim 'cause we
thought it sounded kind of 

1038
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:08,560
silly. 
And we watched it, me and one of

1039
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:10,880
my friends, and you know, one of
my friends who was a big Evil 

1040
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:12,400
Dead fan. 
We just, we enjoyed it. 

1041
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,200
It was, it was better than you 
would expect. 

1042
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:18,240
It sounds stupider than it is. 
It is a very dumb concept, but I

1043
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:19,320
fucking love that. 
Movie. 

1044
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,600
Yeah, like I said, it had heart 
to it. 

1045
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,680
It actually seemed like they 
weren't just taking it as a 

1046
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,400
joke, they were having fun with 
it. 

1047
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,400
But they they definitely cared 
about that movie. 

1048
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:30,960
Word all right well let me let 
me finish up this O dubs real 

1049
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,600
quick so the game emphasizes 
stealth in survival horror 

1050
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:37,440
gameplay requiring. 
I don't like survival horror. 

1051
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,520
You know, requiring the player 
to avoid, outsmart, and fight 

1052
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,600
enemies with tools such as a 
motion tracker and flamethrower.

1053
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,920
So here's the thing. 
Resident Evil and stuff is also 

1054
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,800
considered considered survival 
horror. 

1055
00:50:48,560 --> 00:50:51,160
I can't talk. 
I really enjoy Resident Evil. 

1056
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:54,200
I do not enjoy hide and seek 
horror. 

1057
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Yeah, we did have an issue. 
And like, that's supposed to be 

1058
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,960
the best of that genre and I 
didn't really enjoy it that 

1059
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,400
much. 
I enjoyed the first Outlast when

1060
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,600
I was playing it with friends 
because the first Outlast is 

1061
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,040
genuinely scary, but it's you 
can't defend yourself so it's 

1062
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:12,880
another one of those games where
it's like you just have to run, 

1063
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,560
hide or die. 
I really do think at some point 

1064
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,800
when we do a horror game, what 
we really ought to do is have 

1065
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,080
one of us Twitch stream it and 
the other two call in and do 

1066
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:25,360
like a side stream and it just 
have like a live Steam Machine 

1067
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,400
episode in Twitch. 
Yeah, it wouldn't be a bad idea 

1068
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,280
because it's just I don't know 
this. 

1069
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:35,120
So first thoughts, let's go. 
Jeff, you played this on 

1070
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,160
PlayStation, You can go first. 
What were your first thoughts on

1071
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,840
this? 
I have none continue. 

1072
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,920
All right. 
No thoughts and I must. 

1073
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:46,920
Do no So when I first heard 
about this game, everyone was 

1074
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:50,800
just like, oh, unless it's this 
very scary game, the yadda yadda

1075
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:52,400
yadda. 
So I was like, all right, fine. 

1076
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:57,160
The only reason I got this game 
because it was one of those free

1077
00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,680
games on the PlayStation 
Network. 

1078
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:01,600
Let's give it a chance, all 
right? 

1079
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,120
Man, first thought I can't tell 
you how much I envied the PS 

1080
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,000
Plus free games back in the day.
You guys got Rocket League for 

1081
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:10,520
free like five years before 
everyone else did. 

1082
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,320
That's why I still basically 
that's the only thing I play. 

1083
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,200
I haven't really touched my PC 
and a long time except to 

1084
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:24,560
record, but so yeah, playing 
this game, I immediately started

1085
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,800
thinking, holy crap. 
OK, well, first thing I noticed 

1086
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,760
is it brings you back to that 
70s aesthetic that we were 

1087
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,000
talking about. 
Immediate dump where it's just 

1088
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,920
like everything is supposed to 
be futuristic, but everything is

1089
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,680
analog, you know, buttons, 
everything's all clicky, clacky.

1090
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,680
It's all that kind of stuff. 
Like, okay, I enjoyed this. 

1091
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,200
Even the visuals has that 
graininess to it. 

1092
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:57,160
And so okay, we're off to a good
start with visuals and then you 

1093
00:52:57,160 --> 00:53:01,360
get to Sevastopol. 
A sound design is creepy as hell

1094
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,120
and it's only been like 5 
minutes. 

1095
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,320
Where's the alien? 
Luckily you don't come across it

1096
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,280
until later on but still. 
Is one of those things like oh 

1097
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,560
Jesus Christ I'm going to die in
the 1st 5 minutes of this game. 

1098
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,720
Shadows. 
I'm going to say, by the way, I 

1099
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:20,400
completely disagree with that. 
I thought I knew I wasn't going 

1100
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,560
to see an alien until a certain 
thing happened. 

1101
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,320
And once that thing happened, 
I'm like, OK, now the alien is 

1102
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,920
coming in the next two minutes. 
And it did. 

1103
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,160
The game was practically telling
you you're going through an 

1104
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,000
abandoned area. 
You're not going to see anything

1105
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,880
until you see another human, at 
least. 

1106
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:38,280
Well, I'm thinking if it's not 
the aliens, something is going 

1107
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,360
to kill me. 
I mean, I don't know. 

1108
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:45,600
But the point is it's it's, it's
started increasing the tension 

1109
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,720
almost immediately. 
But based on visuals, based on 

1110
00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:54,000
sound design? 
So what At the very beginning, 

1111
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,520
my first impression. 
OK, it's going to be a rough 

1112
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,840
game for me, but I might enjoy 
this. 

1113
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,000
For any of you who are into like
liminal spaces, like places that

1114
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,600
are abandoned, especially the 
beginning of the game is 

1115
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:08,880
basically just exploring and 
abandoned, basically airport, a 

1116
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,640
Spacey airport. 
And it definitely gives you that

1117
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,800
feeling of everything's closed, 
you ain't supposed to be here 

1118
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,400
so. 
Yeah, liminality always fucks 

1119
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,440
with me. 
Oh Dang, we should play some of 

1120
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,600
the Inside the Backrooms games 
in VR. 

1121
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:27,600
Quick side note, I actually 
watched a video where a dude in 

1122
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,600
VR spent 24 hours in the back 
rooms. 

1123
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,880
Like he even slept with the 
headset on so he woke up still 

1124
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,760
in the fucking back rooms and 
talked about just how 

1125
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,640
disorienting the shit became for
him. 

1126
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,560
Oh, dude, I can only. 
I can only imagine it would 

1127
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:45,560
freak me the fuck out. 
So, all right then, Dane, what 

1128
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,000
about you? 
What was your first impression 

1129
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:51,080
with Alien Isolation? 
So I do want to qualify my first

1130
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,080
impression just a little bit. 
I'm an old survival horror 

1131
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:58,320
assault, you know, the old 
Resident Evils, Silent Hills I 

1132
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:03,280
got a little bit into, like the 
old, the early Amnesia games, 

1133
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,320
Yeah. 
Quick question for you Dane, 

1134
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,120
since you're an old Silent Hill 
fan, because I've played a 

1135
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,240
couple of them, how do you feel 
about the new Silent Hill Two 

1136
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:16,160
remake being 6999? 
I have a follow up question, how

1137
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,440
do you feel about the new Silent
Hill Two remake being good 

1138
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:22,080
considering it's developed by 
the same jackasses that did that

1139
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:25,120
horrible Blair Witch game? 
I've heard mixed things on the 

1140
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,280
Silent Hill Two remake. 
I haven't actually messed with 

1141
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:28,440
it myself. 
I've heard people say it's 

1142
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:31,520
either better than they expected
or outright good, which is just 

1143
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:34,680
shocking to me because I was 
prepared to just leave it for 

1144
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,320
dead and piss on it. 
I'm trying to go into it blind 

1145
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:41,280
whenever I finally get a hold of
a copy because Silent Hill 2 is 

1146
00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:44,400
hands down in my top five games 
of all time. 

1147
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,000
Well, for what it's worth, 
people have complained about 

1148
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,760
some things that have been 
changed, so you, you at least 

1149
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,040
have that to look forward to. 
I'm not trying to get your hopes

1150
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:52,400
up too high, I'm trying to bring
you back down. 

1151
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:56,760
But you know, as far as horror 
stories go, with Silent Hill 

1152
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:00,440
too, I really feel like it is 
one of, if not the best Horror 

1153
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:02,040
Story that I've ever 
encountered. 

1154
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:06,440
I fucking love that game. 
And I know that my nostalgia 

1155
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,080
goggles have, they've got a lot 
that they're going to have to 

1156
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:13,360
accomplish with it, so. 
Yeah, but still, that's one of 

1157
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:16,120
the reasons everyone was so low 
on this concept in the 1st 

1158
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:17,480
place. 
That game is known for its 

1159
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,800
excellent writing, it's subtle, 
masterful storytelling. 

1160
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,600
Whereas Team Bluebird is more 
famous for just we don't know 

1161
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:26,640
what to do, so we're going to 
throw a bunch of stupid twists 

1162
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,800
at you and we can't handle 
anything with subtlety or care. 

1163
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,320
Yeah, I did not have any kind of
expectations for it. 

1164
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:38,760
So I'm probably going in 
expecting a cluster fuck, you 

1165
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,040
know? 
But I went to one of the mileage

1166
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,520
Ovovitch Resident Evil movies 
with that exact attitude and 

1167
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,000
ended up having a great time 
because of it. 

1168
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,480
But you know, like compared to 
say the Silent Hill movies are, 

1169
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:54,320
I actually watched the first one
in theaters and wasn't a whole 

1170
00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:56,280
lot of people in the movie. 
And there's a particular scene 

1171
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,480
at the end of it involving razor
wire and Dalia. 

1172
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:03,360
I literally jumped up in the 
middle of the theater on screen.

1173
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:08,400
Yes, whenever that particular 
scene happened And the girl that

1174
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,000
I was dating at the time, 
embarrassed to shut out of her, 

1175
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:12,640
I remember. 
And a dude. 

1176
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:16,520
There's a vivid scene from that 
movie where, oh, actually, go 

1177
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:19,560
ahead and finish your thought. 
Oh, I just want to say when I 

1178
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:23,480
did that, I saw a dude that I 
went to high school with who I 

1179
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,200
later worked again with at 
Walmart. 

1180
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,800
He turned around and we both met
eyes and he kind of looked to 

1181
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:32,360
the roommate at his shoulder at 
me and like, give me the thumbs 

1182
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,240
up. 
Oh yeah, so. 

1183
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,040
What were you going to? 
Say the scene at Vividly Vividly

1184
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:44,200
I Can't Talk for shit tonight I 
vividly remember is Pyramid Head

1185
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,400
grabbing that chick by like 
right between her titties and 

1186
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,000
just squeezing the skin and 
twisting it and then just 

1187
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:54,360
ripping all of her skin off in 
one fell yank. 

1188
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,920
Being a big fan of all the stuff
in Silent Hill too, I did not 

1189
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,440
like the fact that they stuck 
Pyramid Head in the movie either

1190
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,960
of the movies. 
They were going to have to man. 

1191
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,720
The suits would have made him. 
He's the mascot of the series 

1192
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:09,320
for some reason. 
He is. 

1193
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,320
I am aware that he's actually a 
fucking an embodiment of some 

1194
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,920
horrible thing in your own 
psyche or whatever, but that 

1195
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:18,760
doesn't mean that he's not 
basically the mascot of the 

1196
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,600
series. 
If they had a Smash Bros 

1197
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:22,760
character from Silent Hill, it 
would be Pyramid Head. 

1198
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,920
We'll see. 
I'm in the camp that Pyramid 

1199
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,480
Head is not really a villain in 
those games. 

1200
00:58:28,600 --> 00:58:30,880
And I know there's some massive 
fucking tangent, it's what I'm 

1201
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,360
good at. 
But if you actually pay 

1202
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:36,280
attention to a lot of the 
interactions you have with them 

1203
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,120
at the first boss battle in that
game that you have against 

1204
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,680
Pyramid Head, it's time based. 
It's not about how much damage 

1205
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:44,880
you do to him. 
As long as you just don't get 

1206
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,920
close enough for him to slack 
you, he will eventually leave. 

1207
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:49,640
Also make a lot and there's an 
art. 

1208
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,080
Make a lot. 
If you're listening, Pyramid 

1209
00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:53,800
Head are the ones that did creep
and Karma police. 

1210
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,080
Totally 100%. 
I don't know why I'm so cutting 

1211
00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,640
people off today man. 
I'm so sorry man. 

1212
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,320
I've been breaking into so much 
stuff. 

1213
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,920
I thought I'd be out of energy 
and not be able to talk, but now

1214
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,080
that I'm done with that damn 
game, I have so much juice 

1215
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:08,440
flowing out of me. 
You got the creative shoes is 

1216
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,360
flowing. 
I can see more tissues, the 

1217
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,440
little white juice leaking down 
your forehead. 

1218
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:19,800
But I'm in the camp of Pyramid 
Heads, there to bring James to 

1219
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:22,040
the realizations of what he 
needs to see. 

1220
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:25,640
And the moment that James 
accepts is the moment that 

1221
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,760
Pyramid Head stops becoming a 
threat at all. 

1222
00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:32,040
He's not there to kill the 
player, he's not there to get in

1223
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,600
the way. 
He's there to open the path and 

1224
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:38,120
the fact that he just shoving 
Pyramid Head in different games 

1225
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:43,840
as the symbol of judgment or a 
in Silent Hill to the movie, 

1226
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:48,600
he's a figure of protection. 
They totally just miss the whole

1227
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,040
point of the characterization of
the monster. 

1228
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:54,320
But he sells T-shirts, yeah. 
So yeah, that's kind of what I 

1229
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:55,800
was getting into. 
But I always do think it's 

1230
00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,280
interesting when a character is 
neither really good nor bad, but

1231
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,720
just a force and therefore scary
on its own. 

1232
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,880
You know? 
That's like a lot of the best 

1233
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:06,440
portrayals of the Grim Reaper as
just someone who's doing his 

1234
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,800
job, you know? 
Just, you know, smoking 3 packs 

1235
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:11,680
a day walking around with a 
coffee mug. 

1236
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:14,440
That's why I really like the 
show Dead Like Me. 

1237
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:17,000
You ever watched that one? 
That sounds familiar, but I 

1238
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:18,200
don't think I actually watched 
it. 

1239
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,480
The entire cast are people who 
died and become reapers and they

1240
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,720
have to collect so many souls 
before they get to move on. 

1241
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,040
Gotcha. 
How'd we get off on this? 

1242
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:29,000
My first impression. 
Yeah, it was your first 

1243
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,320
impression and I was asking you 
about the Silent Hill price. 

1244
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,760
And I just think 6999 for a 
remake is a little a little 

1245
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,000
steep, but. 
I think you're doing good. 

1246
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,960
It can be justifiable, but. 
I think 69 would. 

1247
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,440
Be Captain. 
Captain Tangents. 

1248
01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:47,640
Captain Tangents, But you know 
I'm an old salt with the old 

1249
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,640
classic survival horror. 
That's how we got there, OK. 

1250
01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:54,720
So there, there we go, had a 
look at my notes in my SO I was 

1251
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,600
thinking, you know what, I got 
this game and my first 

1252
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,520
impression. 
This game scared the ever loving

1253
01:01:00,520 --> 01:01:05,280
shit out of me immediately and I
want to reveal a little 

1254
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,880
something about myself with 
this. 

1255
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,560
I'm claustrophobic. 
Why didn't we get him in for 

1256
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:13,480
iron long? 
I know, right? 

1257
01:01:14,720 --> 01:01:17,760
Damn. 
I am not so bad that like I 

1258
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:21,480
can't walk into an elevator and 
not panic, you know? 

1259
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,760
I'm good in the elevator as long
as it's not crowded. 

1260
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:28,040
My big trigger personally is if 
I can't move my arms freely. 

1261
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:33,040
But I do have claustrophobia and
everything that I loved and 

1262
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,520
praised about the 
cinematography, where they went 

1263
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:40,000
out of their way to make the 
movie Alien claustrophobic, 

1264
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:44,280
became just an albatross around 
my neck the whole time I was 

1265
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:47,040
playing this game. 
Especially early on because 

1266
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:52,440
everywhere you look for ceiling 
and roof are always visible. 

1267
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:55,960
And I didn't like increase my 
field of view or anything. 

1268
01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:59,280
It was just standard. 
You always feel that roof is 

1269
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,560
right over your head everywhere 
you go. 

1270
01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,800
And then it has you walk around 
in the crawl pipes a lot of the 

1271
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,720
time too, just to make it even 
extra crampy. 

1272
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,080
Oddly enough, the vents didn't 
bother me. 

1273
01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,240
I'm so used to crawling through 
vents and. 

1274
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:14,240
Fucking Duke Nukem. 
Yeah, I was thinking Half Life. 

1275
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,400
But well, you have more class 
than me. 

1276
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:23,600
But just it took me like 3 times
longer than it should have to 

1277
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:27,560
make it through to even get to 
the part where the alien becomes

1278
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:30,200
a threat in the game. 
And once I hit that and you 

1279
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,240
know, I started just the game 
opens up a little bit because 

1280
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,240
the alien will drop out events 
at you. 

1281
01:02:35,400 --> 01:02:36,720
Well, I know we'll get in that 
later. 

1282
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:40,080
But when the game opened up just
a little bit and you're having 

1283
01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,200
to deal with the alien was when 
I started just kind of blazing 

1284
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,080
through it. 
And the alien was a nuisance. 

1285
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:49,800
But that initial was just like 
it hit all of my claustrophobia 

1286
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,480
triggers in the beginning was 
scaring the ever 11 shit out of 

1287
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,920
me. 
I also love too that not only is

1288
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:58,960
it claustrophobic in the sense 
of the decor, but also the fact 

1289
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,240
that there's so much damage that
most areas have only one way in 

1290
01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,440
and out at the beginning, like 
in the introduction. 

1291
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,600
So like, not only is it 
claustrophobic feeling in the 

1292
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:11,520
sense that you can't physically 
get out, like even if you had 

1293
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:15,000
like your full motions and 
stuff, but like you got the 

1294
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,000
whole, you know, waist high 
thing you can't climb over or 

1295
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,800
whatever. 
And so you know that if there 

1296
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,400
were something to happen, you'd 
be fucked for video game reasons

1297
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,680
and logistical reasons. 
Yeah, so. 

1298
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,480
What about you will the? 
Great thing is when I had that 

1299
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,680
exact same feeling in outlast 
two I hated it whereas in this 

1300
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,680
game I was like OK this is 
actually building some good 

1301
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,520
tension. 
My first impression was I really

1302
01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,000
the only alien thing I've seen 
now is alien one which we 

1303
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:43,320
watched for the media dump. 
So like, I don't have a huge 

1304
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,680
amount of experience with series
other than its cultural 

1305
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:51,920
phenomenon, so the movie takes 
place entirely on one wrecked 

1306
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,640
freer. 
Well, almost entirely. 

1307
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,120
There's like a couple scenes on 
the planet too. 

1308
01:03:56,120 --> 01:04:00,320
Whatever, don't at me. 
But this, on the other hand, 

1309
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,320
starts you off on like this big 
spaceport. 

1310
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:05,560
And I thought it was just 
interesting seeing something in 

1311
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,960
the alien universe where you 
could walk around and stuff. 

1312
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:12,200
I liked that one of the people 
that was with you was not a 

1313
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,840
soldier or you know, a freight 
worker or anything, but just a 

1314
01:04:15,840 --> 01:04:18,840
legal professional for Waylon 
Utani trying to get out there 

1315
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,400
and make her big break or 
whatever. 

1316
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:22,800
And like she's all space sick 
and hates sick. 

1317
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,720
You got to have a character 
that's just having a bad time. 

1318
01:04:25,720 --> 01:04:29,360
You know, it's, it's important. 
And she has a very bad time 

1319
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,640
through that game. 
I, I hope she comes back because

1320
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:35,080
the very first thing that 
happens the moment she leaves 

1321
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:36,640
the torrents is she gets 
exploded. 

1322
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,680
There's a huge explosion on the 
Sevastopol and it immediately 

1323
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:42,800
separates you from the two other
people you were boarding with. 

1324
01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,200
Yeah, spoilers. 
They survived that. 

1325
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,800
I didn't even think there was a 
chance they survived that until 

1326
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,000
she said the Axel that she got 
separated because I thought the 

1327
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,040
the the take of it was supposed 
to be that they got completely 

1328
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:58,480
incinerated also. 
Did you pin Samuel as a Cyborg 

1329
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:01,040
just out? 
Or not a Cyborg, but a synth out

1330
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:02,800
of curiosity. 
I didn't get as far as whatever 

1331
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,560
you're talking about. 
The dude that came in and 

1332
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:10,240
actually starts the entire plot,
The character's name is Sam. 

1333
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,760
The one who comes and says, hey,
you know, we can get closure for

1334
01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:15,480
you with your. 
Mom, I didn't, I didn't. 

1335
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:19,200
I didn't pick that up but I'm 
not super. 

1336
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,960
Surprised. 
I'm not super surprised just 

1337
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,880
because they already got me with
the robot trick in the first 

1338
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,440
Alien movie. 
So, but I was surprised by this.

1339
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,640
I went into this not knowing 
anything about the plot either 

1340
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,680
and the fact that it's a direct 
sequel to the first Alien movie 

1341
01:05:31,680 --> 01:05:34,360
that no one has any idea about 
xenomorphs or anything like 

1342
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:37,560
that, and you're playing as the 
daughter of Ellen Ripley, I 

1343
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,520
thought was really interesting. 
That's a cool idea. 

1344
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:43,320
Like it made me feel like they 
had given the people that made 

1345
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,000
this game pretty open rain. 
Like they trusted them to make a

1346
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,520
game with a pretty important 
character theoretically. 

1347
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,760
And my understanding with it, as
far as I know, the game was 

1348
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,040
intended to be Canon to the 
series. 

1349
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:58,960
I don't know how that jihads 
with some of the stuff that 

1350
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,760
happens in Romulus, but. 
Unfortunately, you're going to 

1351
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:08,120
have to be our Canon guy on this
one because yeah, come to think 

1352
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:10,000
of, you're probably just going 
to have to be the alien guy for 

1353
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,400
this one. 
Because fellas, I don't know if 

1354
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:15,000
I want to bring this up this 
early on in the episode, but 

1355
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:16,560
let's all just go ahead and 
admit it. 

1356
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,160
We had a pretty rough start of 
it and mostly bounced off of it.

1357
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:24,200
Well, that brings me to my first
thoughts and. 

1358
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:29,240
Enlightened us. 
I really was enjoying things. 

1359
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:33,240
At first I I thought that the 
atmosphere was great. 

1360
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,240
It really spooked the shit out 
of me in the beginning hours. 

1361
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:41,960
One thing that bothered me is it
didn't let me turn off head Bob.

1362
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:45,640
So like head bobbing is a hit 
and miss thing with me. 

1363
01:06:45,640 --> 01:06:48,120
Sometimes it bothers me, 
sometimes it doesn't, right This

1364
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:50,960
game in particular, it didn't 
particularly sit well with me, 

1365
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,560
but I play it. 
That's why you know I. 

1366
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:55,440
The game defaults to a low FOV 
too, which makes that kind of 

1367
01:06:55,440 --> 01:06:59,120
head bobbing a lot worse to me. 
So the first issue I ran into 

1368
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:04,000
with this game is my computer is
too good to run it so things 

1369
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,360
would happen faster than they 
were supposed to and like would 

1370
01:07:06,360 --> 01:07:10,640
glitch out and it was causing me
to crash every time I was trying

1371
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,440
to get onto a ladder. 
So I ended up looking into a 

1372
01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:15,920
fix. 
I ended up having to just like 

1373
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:19,640
go into the NVIDIA control panel
and change a few things around. 

1374
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:23,560
Pain in the Dick, but got it to 
work and then played through it 

1375
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,240
a little bit more. 
Now I'm going to go ahead and 

1376
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,040
just lay it all out on the line 
for you guys. 

1377
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,280
All right, we're moving past 
first thoughts. 

1378
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:30,680
I'm going to go ahead and give 
you my my full. 

1379
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:32,400
I'm just going to unload and 
then I'm going to let you guys 

1380
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,400
talk about whatever you want to 
talk about, right, because I 

1381
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,440
just got to get this out. 
This game can suck my entire 

1382
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:42,680
fucking Dick and balls. 
So it it starts off so fucking 

1383
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,840
promising, right? 
And I'm like, OK, so here's 

1384
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:49,160
here's my thing. 
I think in retrospect we should 

1385
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:55,040
have played the Alien movie DLC 
because this game puts you in 

1386
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,440
this big ass ship. 
That's cool, that's fine. 

1387
01:07:57,440 --> 01:07:59,280
I like having the area to move 
around because you're going to 

1388
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,600
have to run from the alien and 
when the Alien was introduced, 

1389
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:05,560
that's cool. 
My issue is with they felt the 

1390
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,640
need that they had to put in 
other enemies. 

1391
01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,200
Like you were dealing with a 
fucking xenomorph. 

1392
01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,760
Why do you need these little 
happy Joe farmer Farmer Fred 

1393
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:19,040
fucking things walking around 
like I can't do that, John, like

1394
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,800
it was you fucking and. 
The other the other androids. 

1395
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,720
Whatever the fuck they yeah, 
those androids. 

1396
01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:26,000
I think it's the working Joes is
what they got. 

1397
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,920
Yeah, working Joes, Farmer Dick,
whatever his name was. 

1398
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,800
Like they were just like they 
were all walking around. 

1399
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,680
They all turn fucking evil. 
They're killing people. 

1400
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,479
They take 15 fucking shots to 
kill. 

1401
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,600
And if you're shooting at them, 
more are going to come because 

1402
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:40,560
they hear the gunshots. 
The aliens going to come and 

1403
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,760
kill you. 
They take 15,000,000 wacks with 

1404
01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:48,680
a wrench like they are just 
fucking damage sponges and they 

1405
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:52,319
are there for no reason. 
They add nothing to the game in 

1406
01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:54,680
my opinion. 
Like the terror of the game to 

1407
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:57,399
me is sneaking around trying to 
avoid the alien because the 

1408
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:59,200
alien is smart. 
If you're playing with your mic 

1409
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:02,520
on, the alien can hear you. 
All of that is super cool in 

1410
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,399
theory, but when you're having 
to deal with all of this other 

1411
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:09,720
shit on top of the alien, it's 
like trying to take 10 lbs of 

1412
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,640
shit and stuff it into a 5 LB 
bag when really you just needed 

1413
01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:16,680
that really good 5 lbs of manure
to grow what you need to do 

1414
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:18,399
that. 
Was a really interesting 

1415
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:20,359
metaphor, my guy. 
I just had to ponder that. 

1416
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:24,479
I agree with you. 
There was one moment I was 

1417
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,520
dealing with the alien. 
This is after. 

1418
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,720
This is right before you're 
supposed to go to like the 

1419
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,080
medical wane right before you 
find what, what, what, what are 

1420
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:34,240
the two people's names? 
Samuel and. 

1421
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,840
Samuel and Taylor. 
Samuel and Taylor So you're 

1422
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,760
about to enter a tram and you're
supposed to go to the medical 

1423
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,319
wane do I guess find to help 
Taylor? 

1424
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:48,000
So I the alien is hunting. 
I am standing behind a bench. 

1425
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,720
There are two people that are 
trying to hunt me. 

1426
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:52,120
You know, they have guns and 
everything. 

1427
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,000
I'm just like, Jesus Christ, I'm
going to fucking die. 

1428
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:56,480
I'm going to have to respawn 
again. 

1429
01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:01,040
Or the alien walks right past me
even though I was to closer 

1430
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:05,120
target it walked right past me 
and attacked the the two people.

1431
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:09,760
And I literally I, I was shaking
in terror just because like oh 

1432
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:11,520
Jesus Christ, I'm going to 
fucking die again. 

1433
01:10:11,520 --> 01:10:14,960
It's just like Oh my God. 
So I OK, they're attacking the 

1434
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,880
guys. 
I immediately ran into the tram 

1435
01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:20,760
and I just like OK give me 10 
fucking seconds to calm down or 

1436
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:22,680
relax. 
Good horror movie moment. 

1437
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:27,720
It it was, but if we're if we're
since we're getting into, you 

1438
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:31,240
know, thoughts. 
This game basically pissed me 

1439
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,440
off just because of the fact 
that even on I I believe I 

1440
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:39,880
played this on easy mode or one 
of the easier settings. 

1441
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:45,920
The game is beyond challenging. 
I don't know how the vision of 

1442
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,360
the alien works. 
I just always assumed it's 

1443
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:51,080
blind. 
It just has like a maybe an 

1444
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,160
extra higher sense of hearing 
and smell. 

1445
01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:59,360
Maybe that's how it hunts. 
But here I am, I'm hiding under 

1446
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:04,280
desks. 
The alien is in a corridor 100 

1447
01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:06,280
feet away. 
And I'm I'm playing on 

1448
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,320
PlayStation. 
On the controller are lights. 

1449
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,240
When they're blue, everything's 
called. 

1450
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,040
No one is hunting you. 
When they start flashing green 

1451
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,880
and white. 
They are aware of you but and 

1452
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,320
are hunting for you. 
So the xenomorph 100 feet away, 

1453
01:11:20,480 --> 01:11:24,080
entirely different corridor, my 
controller starts flashing green

1454
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,880
and white and all of a sudden 5 
seconds later it charges me and 

1455
01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,480
attacks me. 
It's like, how the fuck did you 

1456
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:34,680
see me when I'm hiding under the
desk and you're not even in my 

1457
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,880
vision? 
I don't know for the Xenomorph, 

1458
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,600
but there is a they can an 
answer for the face huggers 

1459
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:43,080
which do show up in this game. 
The face huggers detect body 

1460
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,320
heat. 
I I was not that far into the 

1461
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:48,400
game. 
So I would assume since there 

1462
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:52,160
are no visible eyes on the 
Xenomorph, that given that the 

1463
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,520
face huggers do that it goes by 
body heat. 

1464
01:11:54,720 --> 01:11:56,240
That's what my assumption would 
be. 

1465
01:11:56,440 --> 01:12:00,160
So I have one other major 
complaint I want to get out 

1466
01:12:00,160 --> 01:12:01,840
before I I don't want to forget 
it right? 

1467
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,880
So I didn't even make it this 
far. 

1468
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,800
So I watched I'm going to give a
shout out Mandalore gaming on 

1469
01:12:06,800 --> 01:12:08,640
YouTube, one of my favorite 
review channels. 

1470
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:12,080
He releases sparingly, but like 
his videos are always quality. 

1471
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,920
He I watched his review on Alien
Isolation and then I watched a 

1472
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:20,520
few others review and they all 
had a running theme that I 

1473
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,840
agreed with and that is this 
game is far longer than it needs

1474
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:28,440
to be like. 100%. 
What is it Dane? 

1475
01:12:28,440 --> 01:12:30,240
So you can speak to this from 
experience. 

1476
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,560
What is it? 
Halfway, maybe 3/4 of the way 

1477
01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:35,680
through the game, you kick the 
alien out like you get rid of 

1478
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,720
the alien, it is no longer a 
threat, and the game still goes 

1479
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:40,160
on for another few hours after 
that. 

1480
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:45,600
Yeah, so I think that was about 
the two third mark as far as 

1481
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,400
like play time for me, give or 
take. 

1482
01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:53,000
You go on a mission where you 
lower the Alien out, and this 

1483
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,840
gets into one of my complaints 
with this type of game, which 

1484
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,560
I'll touch on in a second. 
But you lower them out, you 

1485
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:02,240
jettison that part off of the 
ship, you get locked in there 

1486
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:08,000
with it, and Amanda Ripley has 
to do a Hail Mary just spacewalk

1487
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,600
jettison to get back to the 
space station. 

1488
01:13:10,600 --> 01:13:12,600
Otherwise she's going to be 
ejected with it. 

1489
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:17,000
This wasn't the plan. 
And then you continue on dodging

1490
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,760
the I've done forgot what I said
they were called but the worker 

1491
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:21,680
Android. 
Shit. 

1492
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,360
And. 
The Joes. 

1493
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:27,520
The Joes. 
And fun fact, the speed running 

1494
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:31,280
community calls the alien Steve.
So you got a Steve on your tail.

1495
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:37,160
I don't know where it came from,
I just know what's the thing and

1496
01:13:37,160 --> 01:13:39,600
the speed runners have actually 
got this game down to a 30 

1497
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,360
minute run. 
That's. 

1498
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:42,160
Incredible. 
Jesus Christ. 

1499
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,000
Where they like. 
Is it all routing or is there 

1500
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,960
like a skip? 
It's a skip where certain areas 

1501
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,240
you revisit with new tools that 
you can open this door to get to

1502
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,480
a different part of the ship. 
So if you do this kind of glitch

1503
01:13:56,480 --> 01:14:00,640
involving a Crouch, you can clip
through doors. 

1504
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:04,000
OK. 
And they clip through and skip 

1505
01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:09,280
from mission like 2:00 to 11:00 
and then trigger a thing that 

1506
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,520
goes from 11 to 18 and then play
through the rest of the game so 

1507
01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:15,160
they can get it down to like sub
30 minute runs. 

1508
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:18,320
That sounds pretty interesting. 
Yeah, I'll watch the entire 

1509
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:19,960
video about it just for shits 
and giggles. 

1510
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,440
Do some of those speed running 
Documentaries are amazing, like 

1511
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:25,560
even like summoning salt. 
His are pretty shallow and it's 

1512
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:28,440
just about the world record and 
like who everyone to hold the 

1513
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:31,080
world record in each game. 
But it's like all these just got

1514
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,280
this feeling of like the 
ingenuity of humanity, the 

1515
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,200
triumph of the spirit over the 
whims of the computer. 

1516
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,560
It's always fools fun, you know.
Sorry. 

1517
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:43,200
But after getting the alien off 
of the space station and then 

1518
01:14:43,200 --> 01:14:48,080
you go on back into it, you find
out you're trying to deactivate.

1519
01:14:49,000 --> 01:14:53,040
I think that computer for this 
company is called Apollo, where 

1520
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,400
I with Waylon Utani, it was 
mother. 

1521
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,280
You're trying to get it to, you 
know, deactivate all these 

1522
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,120
protocols they've enacted 
because Waylon Utani's bottom 

1523
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,040
out. 
And it's like can't verify the 

1524
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,320
engines. 
And lo and behold, there's a 

1525
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:10,680
hive in the engines. 
And now you have to play through

1526
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:14,160
the rest of the game with two 
aliens on your ship. 

1527
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,480
And there's facehuckers. 
So at any given point, a face 

1528
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:21,880
hugger can be coming after you 
whenever you're having to dodge 

1529
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:23,520
aliens. 
There's one point you actually 

1530
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:26,000
see both of them, so you know 
both of them are on your tail. 

1531
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,880
So the aliens do come back later
in the game. 

1532
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:32,840
But my problem with the way this
game is structured is that 

1533
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:35,680
classic All right, we've almost 
done the thing. 

1534
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,760
We have our plan, everything's 
going according to plan. 

1535
01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,280
Oh wait, the plan failed, I'm 
screwed. 

1536
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,320
We have to start over. 
Super Lucky escape, keep going. 

1537
01:15:44,440 --> 01:15:47,240
You get the new plan, you get 
almost to the point everything 

1538
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:49,960
goes sideways. 
Super Lucky Escape, go forward 

1539
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:53,880
because you have the jettison 
off with the alien, and you 

1540
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:55,440
spacefalk and manage to get 
back. 

1541
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:57,960
And then you finally get a hold 
of the torrents, the ship that 

1542
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:02,120
you came in on, and you're 
almost doing a thing to be able 

1543
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,880
to dock and escape. 
And then Alien jumps down, grabs

1544
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,840
you, takes you to the hive, and 
since Amanda Ripley has plot 

1545
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:11,520
armor, she's the only person who
wakes up and is able to break 

1546
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,360
free of the cocooning so that 
she doesn't get turned into a 

1547
01:16:14,360 --> 01:16:15,240
host. 
Bullshit. 

1548
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:20,040
See, that's pretty wack. 
See, that's everybody should 

1549
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:21,800
have died. 
That should have been the end of

1550
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:26,560
this game, God damn it. 
The spoiler for the entire game 

1551
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:30,320
is If you've watched Aliens the 
Director's Cut, you know Amanda 

1552
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,560
Ripley dies of cancer at age 66,
two years before Ripley gets 

1553
01:16:34,560 --> 01:16:38,280
pulled out of of her cryo 
chamber where she escaped the 

1554
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:39,320
first boot. 
Oh. 

1555
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,800
So she has to survive everything
that happens. 

1556
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:46,240
So you know the Canning ending 
is she can't die. 

1557
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:48,920
OK, Yeah. 
At least if you know the 

1558
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:50,800
movements. 
Shyamalan would find a way to 

1559
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:53,720
break it's a twist. 
So then the the ending, the 

1560
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,360
ambiguous ending with the the 
little light on her head, Then 

1561
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,600
if you know the lore, then you 
you that's no ambiguous ending. 

1562
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:01,520
You know, exactly as she's being
saved. 

1563
01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:05,880
Yeah, and I think one of the 
DLC's reveals, and is something 

1564
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:09,760
that I've heard, I haven't 
actually played it, that between

1565
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,680
the because the very last scene 
of the game is a QuickTime event

1566
01:17:12,680 --> 01:17:15,480
where you get back to the 
torrents and you're good and 

1567
01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:17,720
surprise and alien dict its way 
on board. 

1568
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:21,120
So you have this QuickTime event
where you're scrambling back 

1569
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,520
away from the alien and hit the 
airlock and jettison both of you

1570
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,120
out into space. 
I think there's a DLC where you 

1571
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,200
spend you find out that she was 
out there for three days before 

1572
01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,280
someone gets her, and there's 
other stuff you have to go 

1573
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,720
through to do XY and Z before 
you get to just float around in 

1574
01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:40,480
space and get found and rescued.
But they realize the air tanks 

1575
01:17:40,480 --> 01:17:42,920
can last that long in this. 
Universe. 

1576
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:46,640
I was just thinking 3 days worth
of oxygen is a big ass air tank.

1577
01:17:47,240 --> 01:17:49,760
Even even Star Trek I. 
Don't know if she gets back 

1578
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,760
inside somewhere and probably 
has to do a jettison back out 

1579
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:55,240
again. 
She just has to find one of 

1580
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:56,760
those air bubbles like Sonic the
Hedgehog. 

1581
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,440
What you don't know is when they
show up and save her. 

1582
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:05,560
She was hearing the music one of
the most. 

1583
01:18:07,880 --> 01:18:09,840
Stressful themes in all video 
games. 

1584
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,560
I just, there was just a lot of 
mechanics in this game that just

1585
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:17,080
didn't work for me, which is sad
because like, they really did 

1586
01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,920
the atmosphere right. 
Oh yeah, they nailed. 

1587
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,200
They nailed the level of design,
but the fact that it fucked with

1588
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,920
me so hard, they nailed the 
level design. 

1589
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,600
Yeah, it really felt like you 
were on the set of an alien 

1590
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,240
state. 
Like I got to say, it's a very 

1591
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,040
immersive experience in that 
sense. 

1592
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:33,640
The problem is the gameplay 
mechanics keep taking me out of 

1593
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,440
it, because I think of it as a 
video game. 

1594
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:39,080
I think of it as a toy, and I'm 
trying to figure out how I can 

1595
01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:41,760
figure out the mechanics of 
what's happening. 

1596
01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:44,440
Like you said earlier, you don't
understand how the alien can 

1597
01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:47,480
see, like what it detects. 
And you're not thinking, Oh my 

1598
01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:49,880
God, a weird animal's hunting 
me, I need to figure out how to 

1599
01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:52,880
avoid it at all costs. 
You think, OK, well, this is a 

1600
01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,920
game, it has some way it detects
me. 

1601
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,440
What is that mechanism? 
And my mic is off so I know it's

1602
01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:01,920
not hearing me breathe. 
I knew a lot about how the AI 

1603
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:05,920
for the alien worked, so I was 
gaming it very hard and I will 

1604
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,440
go ahead and disclose whenever I
played through the vast majority

1605
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:11,960
of this game. 
I had a walkthrough that showed,

1606
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,640
you know, the perfect golden 
path for the easiest thing 

1607
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,600
because I kept getting lost in 
the labyrinth in this place. 

1608
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,920
OK, so we should feel a little 
less bad about not completing 

1609
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,960
the game because the only one 
that did get anywhere was 

1610
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:24,320
actually using a walkthrough and
play I. 

1611
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:27,560
Got Oh yeah, I got lost for like
half an hour to win before I 

1612
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,640
realized like, and this was like
maybe 10-15 minutes into the 

1613
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,360
game when you're wandering 
around. 

1614
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:35,640
I got lost because I eventually 
wandered into a room and just 

1615
01:19:35,640 --> 01:19:37,760
happened to look down at the 
floor and there was a hatch in 

1616
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:40,000
the floor and that was the area 
that was where I needed to go. 

1617
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,080
I didn't see that for like 20 
fucking minutes because there 

1618
01:19:42,080 --> 01:19:44,480
was no thing pointing you to it 
at all. 

1619
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,400
And I usually am one of those 
people who I'm like, oh, Morrow 

1620
01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:47,760
wins. 
Cool. 

1621
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:48,880
Because it doesn't hold your 
hand. 

1622
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:50,560
You have to read quest logs and 
stuff. 

1623
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:54,040
The problem was it didn't give 
you anything to read that would 

1624
01:19:54,480 --> 01:19:57,920
give you an like, hey, look at 
the Hatch on the floor maybe. 

1625
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,080
Or, you know, nothing was there 
to signify that that was where 

1626
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:02,200
we needed to go. 
Yeah, there were a lot of points

1627
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:04,640
where the telegraphing 
completely fails in this game. 

1628
01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:07,520
But I hate to bitch about that 
when we when we review the game,

1629
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,480
because then we're going to be 
the people that get the yellow 

1630
01:20:09,480 --> 01:20:11,840
paint splash treatment blamed on
us, you know? 

1631
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:15,040
Yeah, that's fair, but I also 
don't mind the yellow paint 

1632
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:16,600
splash treatment every now and 
then. 

1633
01:20:16,720 --> 01:20:20,280
Yeah, I think what does that 
game that there was that one 

1634
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:22,760
game that had the really 
insanely bad hinting though, 

1635
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,240
Like it was, I think it was like
one of the later God of War 

1636
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,480
games where every few seconds 
the characters like just telling

1637
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:30,400
you how to solve the puzzle. 
Yeah. 

1638
01:20:30,560 --> 01:20:31,920
Why don't you try doing this, 
boy? 

1639
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:32,920
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1640
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,080
You're thinking the same game 
I'm thinking of too, because 

1641
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:36,880
when they talked about it, they 
definitely said the word boy a 

1642
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,440
million times, so that is what 
I'm doing. 

1643
01:20:38,760 --> 01:20:41,440
That's got a boy. 
I've never played God of War, 

1644
01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:42,760
sorry. 
Man, they're good. 

1645
01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:44,960
It was an Xbox inclusive back in
the day and I didn't have Xbox 

1646
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:46,480
so. 
That was a PlayStation 

1647
01:20:46,480 --> 01:20:48,360
exclusive, Sir. 
Well I did have Xbox at that 

1648
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,000
point then. 
But yeah, I think like the 

1649
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:54,760
hinting colors that they use in 
this game really is if they 

1650
01:20:54,760 --> 01:20:57,200
really want to draw your 
attention, they'll have a lot 

1651
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:58,680
where everything is just so 
dark. 

1652
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:01,640
Yeah, I noticed that they use 
lights a lot, Like very doom 

1653
01:21:01,640 --> 01:21:04,440
like level design. 
I felt like I actually didn't 

1654
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:06,480
have any trouble getting lost in
this game, which is weird 

1655
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:08,840
because you guys know I'm really
bad at getting lost in 3D 

1656
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:11,320
spaces. 
But I felt like I kind of 

1657
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,560
thought that they were just 
shining lights on everything I 

1658
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,000
needed to go towards, to the 
point where I was going other 

1659
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,760
directions just because like, 
no, it's too obvious. 

1660
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:19,800
I need to explore. 
And there are some things that 

1661
01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,960
you can miss if you're not 
exploring like. 

1662
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,160
The only things I ever found 
from exploring was just fucking 

1663
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:27,720
crafting materials and I never 
found any crafting blueprints 

1664
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,320
because I didn't care enough to 
get that far. 

1665
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,360
It's easy to miss some of the 
blueprints and there's a couple 

1666
01:21:32,360 --> 01:21:35,240
of them that if you walk past 
them early game you're really 

1667
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,920
going to be fucked. 
Like the Med kit, you can walk 

1668
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:40,440
past and completely miss the Med
kit blueprint. 

1669
01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:43,400
And there's not really that many
Med kits to my knowledge that 

1670
01:21:43,400 --> 01:21:47,080
spawn within the game because 
the crafting materials which 

1671
01:21:47,160 --> 01:21:49,160
fuck shoving crafting in this 
game. 

1672
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,760
Yeah, I was really not happy at 
the moment I started, picked up 

1673
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:55,920
a crafting item. 
I understand the rationale 

1674
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,160
behind a lot of the decisions 
they made for the game 

1675
01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:01,440
mechanics. 
Because The thing is, if you ask

1676
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:04,840
me to describe what I would want
out of an Alien game that's 

1677
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:07,560
going to be a horror game, they 
did a lot of the things that I 

1678
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:11,240
would like, pivot to. 
Like you need to be a little bit

1679
01:22:11,240 --> 01:22:15,240
clumsy in the controls because 
you don't want perfect agency 

1680
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,920
when you're scrambling. 
You want to have something 

1681
01:22:17,920 --> 01:22:20,440
that's going to slow you down 
that you have to do because they

1682
01:22:20,440 --> 01:22:25,240
have very, very big, high effort
mechanisms on these spaceships 

1683
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,960
within the movies that slow 
people down. 

1684
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,680
Like things you have to like, 
prime the pump on a generator a 

1685
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,920
couple times where you hit a 
button that shows up in the 

1686
01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,440
game. 
Yeah. 

1687
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:37,080
It's always the exact same 
animation every time, which got 

1688
01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:39,720
really old the third time and 
I'm like OK it's exactly 2 pumps

1689
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:43,000
and you. 
An alien that tracks you, that 

1690
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,560
you have to have from all these 
things that I would be like, 

1691
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,200
yeah, if you want a good alien 
game, you got to do this. 

1692
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,160
You have to do it. 
They did all the things. 

1693
01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:51,680
Thanks. 
I hated. 

1694
01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:53,360
It they did too many things is 
the problem. 

1695
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,000
They went kitchen sink with 
this. 

1696
01:22:55,480 --> 01:22:59,400
They threw in too much extras. 
I was fine with the crafting 

1697
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:03,440
system, but like I said, I don't
like using my inventory and it 

1698
01:23:03,440 --> 01:23:07,360
seems like the game demands that
you use the inventory system. 

1699
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,200
It's just it's like I'm trying 
to deal with the Joes. 

1700
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,960
At one point there's like five 
of them just walking around. 

1701
01:23:13,960 --> 01:23:17,680
Just like, how the hell do you 
want me to sneak past this 

1702
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:19,600
thing? 
I had to go out of my way to 

1703
01:23:19,600 --> 01:23:23,720
craft the I don't the the sound 
bomb. 

1704
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,840
I don't know what it is. 
It's called the interference 

1705
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:30,800
bomb just so it can create a 
distraction and it's like okay 

1706
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,560
good. 
I finally got past it for some 

1707
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:36,640
reason. 5 seconds later they 
found me and now I'm running for

1708
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,520
like the next two minutes 
getting away from these things. 

1709
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,320
And it's unnecessary. 
Can I say something about 

1710
01:23:43,320 --> 01:23:46,720
crafting and video games too? 
I get that the idea for crafting

1711
01:23:46,720 --> 01:23:49,840
is that it's a little bit more 
realistic and diegetic than just

1712
01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,680
like picking up full items on 
the ground or going to a 

1713
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,720
shopkeeper or whatever, but 
ultimately you're just asking me

1714
01:23:55,720 --> 01:23:57,880
to do a shopkeeper with an extra
step. 

1715
01:23:58,200 --> 01:24:01,080
Like, it makes no sense 
whatsoever that I would find a 

1716
01:24:01,480 --> 01:24:04,840
architect's blueprint that tells
me how to make a medicine pack 

1717
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,480
out of plastic and gel. 
You know, none of that means 

1718
01:24:08,480 --> 01:24:09,960
anything. 
You might as well give me gold 

1719
01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,040
coins and have a shopkeeper come
up to me and say, oh, what are 

1720
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:16,480
you in the need? 
For another thing I also want to

1721
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:21,280
mention before you go ahead and 
speak, Dane, we were talking 

1722
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:26,280
about before, just like the 
mechanics, like we, we're trying

1723
01:24:26,280 --> 01:24:29,200
to immerse ourselves in the 
game, but yet we're thinking 

1724
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:33,080
about the mechanics. 
You're Ripley, you're crouching.

1725
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,720
You're you know, you're 
crouching and you're walking 

1726
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,920
along. 
She is squeaking her shoes and 

1727
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:44,280
I'm sorry, but I'm just like you
are trying to hide for your dear

1728
01:24:44,280 --> 01:24:48,000
life and yet your shoes are just
going squeak, squeak, squeak, 

1729
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:50,960
squeak. 
Try being a little bit quieter. 

1730
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:53,800
Well, something that. 
There is a cheat for that. 

1731
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,760
WD4. 
Strafe to the right. 

1732
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,760
It's an incomplete animation. 
You'd make 0 noise when you're 

1733
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,880
strafing to the right so you can
run as much as you want. 

1734
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:06,440
Wow. 
That's a good note then to know.

1735
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:10,080
So one of the things that the 
guys that I watched complained 

1736
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,240
about and Jeff, this kind of 
goes back to the the alien 

1737
01:25:12,240 --> 01:25:15,360
finding you from 100 feet away 
was they were talking about how 

1738
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:18,280
an outlast you could be running 
from something and you would 

1739
01:25:18,280 --> 01:25:22,320
hide in a like, you know, like 
a, a locker, say. 

1740
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,760
And you would you would get in 
that locker and she would like 

1741
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:29,000
shut it quietly. 
And then you would hide in there

1742
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,280
and the person would maybe come 
in the room and look around. 

1743
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:34,160
But as long as you didn't, they 
didn't see you go in there, 

1744
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:35,440
they're not going to fuck with 
you. 

1745
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,920
He said. 
And Mandalore specifically was 

1746
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,880
like two things. 
One, when you go and you hide in

1747
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:44,160
a locker as Amanda, she slams 
the shit out of the locker door.

1748
01:25:44,160 --> 01:25:47,240
When she goes in there, she's 
like bam, which would make a lot

1749
01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,560
of noise, right? 
And two is that the alien knows 

1750
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,720
you're hiding sometimes when it 
shouldn't, and that it'll just 

1751
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:56,160
like you could be somewhere and 
it'll just open the door and 

1752
01:25:56,160 --> 01:26:00,000
yank you out or hiding under a 
bed and it'll just run up out of

1753
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,520
nowhere and nail you and it's 
like it shouldn't have known you

1754
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,040
were there. 
So that is not just that you, 

1755
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:07,920
that is a bitch that I saw in 
every review that I watched just

1756
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,960
to validate you well. 
Did you look into how the aliens

1757
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,280
IAI is actually set up within 
the game? 

1758
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:16,680
No at a code. 
No. 

1759
01:26:16,920 --> 01:26:20,880
So the way they have it set up, 
there's three systems in place. 

1760
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:24,080
You have the you know AI 
director which has perfect 

1761
01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:28,080
knowledge of where Amanda's AT 
and will push the alien in your 

1762
01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:31,200
direction. 
And then it's the alien AI's job

1763
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:35,520
to, with limited knowledge of 
you, figure out where you're at 

1764
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:38,320
and pursue use of the level. 
So somewhere system what they 

1765
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:39,960
use in like Left 4 Dead and 
stuff like that. 

1766
01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:45,680
And they have what they called a
menace gauge, that as the alien 

1767
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,040
is fucking with you and putting 
pressure on you, that gauge 

1768
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:51,360
slowly fills up until it hits a 
maximum. 

1769
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:54,920
And if the Alien has not found 
you before that and you've 

1770
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:59,240
managed to, you know, not make 
any blaring mistakes, once that 

1771
01:26:59,240 --> 01:27:02,920
manage menace gauge has filled 
up, the AI director makes the 

1772
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:06,680
Alien kind of fall back and give
you some breathing space to keep

1773
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:10,080
it from being just on your balls
all the time. 

1774
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,320
Because if this Alien was 
operating like a real Xenomorph,

1775
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:17,280
you would not get the breathing.
I never, I never got that. 

1776
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:19,960
It was always taunting and 
hunting me. 

1777
01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:23,080
It never left me alone. 
It. 

1778
01:27:24,000 --> 01:27:27,000
When you actually get into 
watching the flow of it and 

1779
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,720
you're trying to game the 
system, you can see whenever 

1780
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:31,920
it's backing off a little bit 
and giving you some room. 

1781
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:35,080
And on the lower difficulties, 
at least in the earlier levels, 

1782
01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,560
you can just kind of wait it out
to a point and then it'll get 

1783
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,160
back up in the vents. 
And as long as you don't run, 

1784
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,680
you can pretty much do whatever 
you want to do and it's not 

1785
01:27:43,680 --> 01:27:45,840
going to drop back down and 
start pursuing unless it take 

1786
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:48,160
too long. 
So it just sounds like when 

1787
01:27:48,160 --> 01:27:50,400
you're playing this game 
correctly, you're just doing a 

1788
01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:54,480
really obscure and obtuse 
baroque version of Simon's Says 

1789
01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,000
with someone who never actually 
says it out loud. 

1790
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,120
Simon thinks yeah. 
Yeah, kinda. 

1791
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:02,360
I don't know, that doesn't sound
like it's an entertaining 

1792
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:04,320
gameplay experience. 
It sounds like the more you know

1793
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:08,760
about the game, the less it 
functions as anything other than

1794
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,000
a second game that isn't a 
horror experience whatsoever. 

1795
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:16,280
On the harder difficulties the 
alien gets, you know you've got 

1796
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:19,440
more room before it's filling up
that menace gauge it's going to 

1797
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:23,680
behave and treats, you know it's
going to act smarter and you 

1798
01:28:23,680 --> 01:28:26,880
have way less wiggle room. 
But playing this game is just 

1799
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:30,520
reminding me how much I despise 
first person stealth. 

1800
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,960
Yeah, I think that that is when 
I said I didn't like survival 

1801
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:35,160
horror. 
Maybe that's what I was thinking

1802
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:38,200
of because I really didn't enjoy
either first person or like that

1803
01:28:38,200 --> 01:28:40,320
really near third person's audio
games use. 

1804
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:42,320
I will say. 
And I never really felt scared 

1805
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:46,640
dealing with the Xenomorph, it 
was just stressful having to do 

1806
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,920
XY and Z to avoid the xenomorph.
I was more scared by the 

1807
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:53,400
facehackers because the same 
reason that I was scared of the 

1808
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:56,680
fucking head crabs in Half Life.
It's a small target and it moves

1809
01:28:56,680 --> 01:28:59,040
quick. 
Yeah dude, the head crabs in 

1810
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,800
Half Life weren't a fucking 
joke, man. 

1811
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,080
I think that first person 
stealth can be done right 

1812
01:29:05,080 --> 01:29:07,600
because Thief. 
Those Thief games do it right 

1813
01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:10,520
and Dishonored does it right. 
But then here's the thing with 

1814
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:15,200
those games, they give you 
multiple paths to get to what 

1815
01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:17,320
you need to do. 
So like you can either sneak 

1816
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,560
past the guard or you can take 
one of your wet rag arrows and 

1817
01:29:21,560 --> 01:29:23,280
shoot it at the light and knock 
the light out. 

1818
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:26,200
And then hey, now it's easier to
get by or you can knock the 

1819
01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:28,200
guard out. 
There are different ways that 

1820
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,120
you can go about it. 
Whereas like when you're dealing

1821
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,360
with that alien AI, there's one 
thing that you can do and that 

1822
01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:35,360
is fucking run. 
So I don't know that's. 

1823
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:39,200
And later you when you get the 
flamethrower, you can flame up 

1824
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,840
the Xenomorph and if you do 
enough it will flee. 

1825
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:45,480
You can't kill it, but you can 
like set it on fire enough that 

1826
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:48,920
it will leave the area and be 
out of the way for a little bit 

1827
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:51,280
and give you a little enough 
breathing room to kind of get 

1828
01:29:51,280 --> 01:29:52,720
out of the immediate vicinity of
it. 

1829
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:55,480
How long do you have to play 
before you find a flamethrower? 

1830
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,000
I can't remember how far. 
It is anymore. 

1831
01:29:58,240 --> 01:29:59,640
Yeah. 
Yeah, so. 

1832
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,200
I, I have a bitch too. 
I I hinted at this earlier, but 

1833
01:30:03,200 --> 01:30:05,680
I just wanted to convince about 
the fact that I knew the alien 

1834
01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:09,120
wasn't going to show up until 
one, you'd run into a human 2 

1835
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:12,480
that a human had killed another 
human, and three, until the 

1836
01:30:12,480 --> 01:30:15,840
person you were with says 
something along the lines of I I

1837
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,520
was supposed to go home last 
week or I'm not supposed to be 

1838
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:19,760
here today or something like 
that. 

1839
01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,960
Literally all that shit happens 
and immediately the guy gets 

1840
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:26,400
spiked through the wall. 
I'm only two days away from 

1841
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:27,880
retirement. 
Yeah, he might as well have said

1842
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,200
that. 
I'm getting for this shit. 

1843
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:34,120
I was thinking more along the 
islands of Dante Hicks but I'm 

1844
01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:35,320
not even. 
Supposed to be here today. 

1845
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:37,440
That's what I was doing at 
first, but yeah, yeah. 

1846
01:30:38,120 --> 01:30:41,640
Yeah, I could see Dante getting 
stabbed through the chest by 

1847
01:30:41,640 --> 01:30:43,640
Xenomorph and Ran especially. 
The animated. 

1848
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:50,640
Version of Fuck yeah. 3737 days.
He bursted 37 chests in a row. 

1849
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:54,360
It's like as he as he's dying, 
he's like Randall. 

1850
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:58,040
Yeah, Dante, I lied. 
It was 53. 

1851
01:31:02,560 --> 01:31:05,360
That's Enamorph. 
He's such a shit monster. 

1852
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:07,160
Or it could have been it's it's 
42. 

1853
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:10,240
I know that's dog Bob. 
I've never seen clerks. 

1854
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,760
Oh man, clerk is good. 
Man, I think we had this 

1855
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,200
conversation on media dump too, 
didn't we? 

1856
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:16,040
Yes, we Clerks 1 and 2 are 
great. 

1857
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,640
So one one of the many things we
talked about that wasn't alien. 

1858
01:31:21,160 --> 01:31:23,000
Yeah. 
We tried really hard on this one

1859
01:31:23,000 --> 01:31:24,360
too. 
Brooks and Adam Sandler checks 

1860
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:25,680
out on Dane and Joe's media 
dump. 

1861
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,080
So we've chatted a lot about 
this game. 

1862
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,800
We've kind of gotten our 
opinions across and I know we 

1863
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:34,880
got a we got a few fan questions
and then we also have a quiz. 

1864
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:37,960
So let's go ahead and think 
about our ratings, gentlemen. 

1865
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:39,240
I'm gonna go ahead and give mine
first. 

1866
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,960
Right game, cool concept. 
I think if it had just been you,

1867
01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:48,600
some people who were expendable,
and the Alien, this would have 

1868
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,200
been a much cooler, much better 
game. 

1869
01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:53,440
I think they tried to cram too 
much manure into a bag like I 

1870
01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:57,480
talked about earlier. 
But for the eeriness, I will 

1871
01:31:57,480 --> 01:32:01,200
still give it a couple points. 
So I will give it 3 Xenomorphs 

1872
01:32:01,640 --> 01:32:05,560
two 2 1/2. 
I'm going to NO33 Xenomorphs out

1873
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,320
of 10 Colonial Marines. 
I'm going to go ahead and just 

1874
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,480
jump in and abstain from 
scoring. 

1875
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:13,800
I felt like I didn't play the 
game honestly, like I got in 

1876
01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:15,560
enough to see what it kind of 
looks like. 

1877
01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:18,440
I didn't really get to play with
the mechanics very much and I'm 

1878
01:32:18,440 --> 01:32:23,360
just kind of nodding along. 
Let's see, there are some good 

1879
01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:28,040
things about it, mostly audio 
and visual, that that I will 

1880
01:32:28,440 --> 01:32:30,280
praise. 
They did a very good job. 

1881
01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:35,520
But gameplay, the mechanics, the
way that the alien hunts you 

1882
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:39,080
down, this game pissed me off 
more than it did scare me. 

1883
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,280
It's I was I was scared at 
first, but then eventually it's 

1884
01:32:42,280 --> 01:32:45,160
just like you're cut. 
I'm constantly dying every 5 

1885
01:32:45,160 --> 01:32:48,120
seconds and the game just like, 
hey, have you learned your 

1886
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:49,920
lesson? 
No, do it again. 

1887
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,640
Do it again. 
So I am going to give it a few 

1888
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,600
extra points just for audio and 
visual alone. 

1889
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,480
I'm just going to give this like
maybe I'm just I'm going to give

1890
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:04,720
this a four. 
I don't like this game but the I

1891
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:09,680
don't even want to give it like 
4 aliens out of 10, four aliens 

1892
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,720
out of 10 Ripley's I don't give 
a damn. 

1893
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:15,600
This game can go fuck itself. 
I think only one alien ever came

1894
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:19,440
out of Ripley. 
She liked it. 

1895
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:22,640
And then she set herself on 
fire. 

1896
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:27,880
Pretty much the same thing Y'all
were saying it they tried to put

1897
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:32,680
too much in. 
That's good ideas, but the game 

1898
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:34,760
really is less than the sum of 
its parts. 

1899
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:37,480
You can't make a pizza and pad 
Thai Stew. 

1900
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:41,280
They nailed the five. 
They nailed the world design. 

1901
01:33:42,440 --> 01:33:46,400
They put a lot of heart into 
some of the small details. 

1902
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:49,520
You can tell these, this was 
made by people who absolutely 

1903
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,800
adored the property they were 
working with. 

1904
01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:55,040
But it really didn't work for me
either. 

1905
01:33:55,200 --> 01:34:00,880
And just based on the execution 
on what they were able to build 

1906
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:04,360
and you know, an attempt was 
made and they did show the 

1907
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:08,720
game's property with respect, 
you know, 5 chest bursters out 

1908
01:34:08,720 --> 01:34:12,040
of 10 faceless, you know that 
they're going to die before the 

1909
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:15,320
end of the movies, so. 
We should also, yeah. 

1910
01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:19,960
I was not super impressed. 
We should note as of this 

1911
01:34:19,960 --> 01:34:24,960
recording as the second Alien 
Isolation has been announced. 

1912
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:27,200
I'm not. 
I'm not confident. 

1913
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:33,000
I hope they scale back, yeah, 
either on play time or the 

1914
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:37,360
mechanics, because the bones are
here that they could have a good

1915
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,120
game. 
First Person's Help is not my 

1916
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:42,240
genre and I'm trying to take 
that out of my rating. 

1917
01:34:42,360 --> 01:34:45,280
But the promise is here and I 
love the franchise. 

1918
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,080
Maybe the second time around 
that it'll be better and click 

1919
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:50,760
with me more. 
I do want to give the second one

1920
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:53,520
a shot when it comes out. 
Yeah, I, I think it's worth 

1921
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,080
looking into at least to see if 
they've approved anything, you 

1922
01:34:57,080 --> 01:34:59,000
know, because again, like you 
said, the bones are there 

1923
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:02,920
because it is a creepy concept. 
It's just hopefully they decided

1924
01:35:02,960 --> 01:35:05,520
like what worked and what didn't
work and they cut all the shit 

1925
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:08,440
that didn't work. 
This is a much better game to 

1926
01:35:08,440 --> 01:35:11,160
watch someone stream. 
Yeah, and if you're into that 

1927
01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:15,680
kind of thing and you don't mind
like semi annoying Youtubers, I 

1928
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,280
know Markiplier's got a 
playthrough of it and he's like 

1929
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:20,920
the least annoying out of all of
those fairly famous let's play 

1930
01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,480
Youtubers in my opinion. 
Like he shouts the least. 

1931
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:25,680
Watching him play Iron Lung was 
really funny though. 

1932
01:35:25,840 --> 01:35:29,120
Like apparently like he's one of
the reasons that game got big 

1933
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:31,600
because he streamed it and 
that's why there's the cheat for

1934
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:34,640
Markiplier mode in the game. 
But his reaction to the ending 

1935
01:35:34,640 --> 01:35:39,080
of Iron Lung was hysterical. 
Now I know he's working on a 

1936
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:41,080
movie project right now. 
Isn't it related to? 

1937
01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:41,920
Iron. 
It is iron lung. 

1938
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,280
Yeah, he's making an Iron Lung 
movie, yeah, which is 

1939
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,400
interesting that could you could
do that movie for a pretty low 

1940
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:48,480
budget. 
Yeah. 

1941
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:51,480
And make it very interesting. 
There's a few different ways you

1942
01:35:51,480 --> 01:35:53,040
could go with the film version 
of it too. 

1943
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,240
Like, I'd have to see it to know
what they're actually gonna plan

1944
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:57,840
to do on it. 
Yeah, I'm waiting for like a 

1945
01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,200
trailer or something. 
I think it would be cool. 

1946
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:05,760
That's just like Windegoon did a
stalker movie with some people, 

1947
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,880
so that could be cool too. 
So yeah. 

1948
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:10,800
So which would you boys like to 
do first? 

1949
01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,680
Would you like to do the quiz 
first or you want to run through

1950
01:36:12,680 --> 01:36:14,280
the questions? 
I said quiz. 

1951
01:36:15,080 --> 01:36:16,640
OK, quiz. 
All right, and let's do a quiz. 

1952
01:36:17,120 --> 01:36:19,720
All right, what kind? 
What is our game today? 

1953
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:25,200
Quiz time. 
So today I've prepared for you 

1954
01:36:25,200 --> 01:36:29,120
boys factor crap Alien 
franchise. 

1955
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:30,880
Trivia. 
All right. 

1956
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:35,600
Rules are simple. 
I'll call on you in turn so that

1957
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:41,040
we don't have any. 
Everyone gets an equal 

1958
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:43,520
opportunity to try and get their
questions answer out first. 

1959
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:45,080
And it makes editing easier. 
Thank you. 

1960
01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:49,120
Yeah. 
So I got 5 questions prepared. 

1961
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,160
I will give you a fact and 
you're going to tell me, is that

1962
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:56,040
a fact, an actual fact, it is 
true, or is that crap? 

1963
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,560
I've changed something or just 
made something up at a whole 

1964
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,080
cloth, and all this is going to 
be related to the Alien 

1965
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:03,080
franchise as a whole. 
All right. 

1966
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,320
So, gentlemen, Are you ready? 
Lay it on me. 

1967
01:37:06,440 --> 01:37:10,080
Start your engine. 
All right #1 Sigourney Weaver 

1968
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:14,280
insisted on Ripley's death in 
Alien 3 because she didn't want 

1969
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,200
to appear in an Alien versus 
Predator crossover film. 

1970
01:37:17,320 --> 01:37:18,960
I gave you boys a second to 
think about it. 

1971
01:37:19,160 --> 01:37:21,480
I say that's crap. 
Weren't we supposed to go in 

1972
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:22,440
turn? 
I guess you. 

1973
01:37:22,440 --> 01:37:24,040
Well, I guess we'll start. 
With you, I guess you have. 

1974
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:26,440
Crap. 
What do you think, Dalton? 

1975
01:37:27,160 --> 01:37:30,680
I am going to say what is fact 
I'm. 

1976
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,720
Gonna give it a crap too. 
Correct answer. 

1977
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,920
That is a fact. 
The idea was floating around for

1978
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,880
years before AVP finally 
released in 2004, and Weaver 

1979
01:37:40,880 --> 01:37:42,720
felt it was a terrible idea. 
And why? 

1980
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,320
Nothing to do with the film. 
That makes sense. 

1981
01:37:45,320 --> 01:37:47,640
They made like the Jaguar game 
in like 1998. 

1982
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:54,320
So Dalton's starting off strong,
going to #2 bouncing off of 

1983
01:37:54,320 --> 01:37:57,880
that. 
Sigourney Weaver only signed on 

1984
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:01,320
to Alien Resurrection, the 
fourth film, because they dumped

1985
01:38:01,320 --> 01:38:05,400
a truckload of cash into her 
bank account. 11,000,000 to be 

1986
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,240
precise, in case you're curious.
And that is definitely her 

1987
01:38:08,240 --> 01:38:11,040
actual payday. 
So is the only reason she signed

1988
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,840
on to Alien Resurrection because
of the money they paid her? 

1989
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:15,440
So we started with Jeff last 
time. 

1990
01:38:16,280 --> 01:38:18,040
Willie will let you have first 
crack at it. 

1991
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:19,840
Fact or crap? 
I think it's crap. 

1992
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:21,200
I think she got nostalgic for 
the show. 

1993
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,280
OK. 
Jeff, what do you think? 

1994
01:38:23,520 --> 01:38:26,880
I think it's also crap I think I
heard. 

1995
01:38:27,480 --> 01:38:30,680
Am I able to say it or just say 
factor crap? 

1996
01:38:30,760 --> 01:38:35,320
You can say whatever you want. 
I thought I heard she signed on 

1997
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:38,320
because of the script. 
The script had potential. 

1998
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:41,440
And not more, you think? 
I think it's crap. 

1999
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:43,680
I think she. 
I think you only changed 

2000
01:38:43,680 --> 01:38:44,760
something though. 
Yeah. 

2001
01:38:44,760 --> 01:38:47,600
I think this is a NUM actually 
question, like she actually made

2002
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:49,640
9 million or 13 million or 
something. 

2003
01:38:49,920 --> 01:38:53,480
She wouldn't do Alien 2 if they 
paid her. 

2004
01:38:53,480 --> 01:38:56,160
I think it was like at least 
$1,000,000 because she only got 

2005
01:38:56,160 --> 01:39:00,200
paid something like 37,000 or 70
something thousand for the first

2006
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:02,640
movie. 
So I'm going to say crap all. 

2007
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,840
Right, you're saying? 
Crap, but like one of those like

2008
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:06,360
crap because you just changed 
something. 

2009
01:39:07,920 --> 01:39:13,480
No, the $11 million was accurate
and fun fact, 11,000,000 was the

2010
01:39:13,480 --> 01:39:15,520
entire budget for Alien One. 
Damn. 

2011
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,920
Wow. 
And that is what she made for 

2012
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:20,560
Alien Resurrection. 
But you are all correct. 

2013
01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:24,000
That is crap. 
Jeff headed on the head. 

2014
01:39:24,000 --> 01:39:27,080
She said she really liked Josh 
Whedon's portrayal of Ripley in 

2015
01:39:27,080 --> 01:39:30,480
the screenplay, with her 
ambiguous allegiance whether she

2016
01:39:30,480 --> 01:39:32,520
was for the humans or for the 
aliens. 

2017
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:36,440
But the $11 million they dumped 
on her lawn did not hurt. 

2018
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:39,720
So that's one point for 
everybody. 

2019
01:39:39,720 --> 01:39:43,000
So Dalton's still in the lead 
with one no? 

2020
01:39:43,000 --> 01:39:45,720
He's in the lead with two. 
In the lead by one, he's 

2021
01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:47,080
leading. 
I think he's in this one. 

2022
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:50,080
Might be. 
Leading with two by one better. 

2023
01:39:51,240 --> 01:39:55,160
No, go to hell. 
Been there, bought a T-shirt. 

2024
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:57,800
Big Bill Hills, home of 
challenge pissing. 

2025
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:00,360
Amanda Ripley, the character we 
played, Sir. 

2026
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,480
Through the game as is modeled 
after Sigourney Weaver's Mother 

2027
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:06,560
Factor crap. 
So this time we'll start with 

2028
01:40:06,560 --> 01:40:09,200
Dalton Factor crap. 
Just because I want that to be 

2029
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:12,640
true and I want her name to be 
like Petunia or something like 

2030
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:14,080
that. 
Yeah, I'm going to say fact. 

2031
01:40:14,160 --> 01:40:16,720
Willie. 
This is actually it's actually 

2032
01:40:16,720 --> 01:40:18,760
based on her aunt. 
Crap, crap. 

2033
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,120
And Jeff, what do you think? 
I'll say fact. 

2034
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:24,600
Say fact. 
Actual retail price. 

2035
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:29,360
That is a fact. 
So in a scene from the Alien 

2036
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:34,040
Director's cut, Weaver's mom is 
used for a photo of Amanda 

2037
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:39,120
Ripley, who in that movie was 
had died at age 66, two years 

2038
01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,760
prior to Ripley being rescued 
from the cryo chamber and being 

2039
01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:45,240
brought back amongst the living.
That's right, her daughter would

2040
01:40:45,240 --> 01:40:46,600
have been older than her 
technically. 

2041
01:40:46,760 --> 01:40:50,360
That's weird. 
Yeah, so the game creators 

2042
01:40:50,360 --> 01:40:54,680
wanted to have some continuity, 
so they actually modeled Amanda 

2043
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:58,800
after that because one, the 
continuity, and two, it gave a 

2044
01:40:58,800 --> 01:41:01,560
realistic family resemblance 
with between the two of them 

2045
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:05,480
without trying to model it after
Sigourney Weaver herself and try

2046
01:41:05,480 --> 01:41:08,160
and change a couple things to 
imagine what a daughter would 

2047
01:41:08,160 --> 01:41:09,760
look like. 
So I thought that was kind of 

2048
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:12,240
interesting. 
I can't remember Weaver's mom's 

2049
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:13,760
name. 
It was Elizabeth something. 

2050
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:16,640
I think so. 
So #4 And like Dalton, you did 

2051
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,920
say fact on that one, right? 
Yeah. 

2052
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:21,640
That's what I thought. 
So Dalton's in the lead with 

2053
01:41:21,640 --> 01:41:25,120
three, Jeff bring it up with 
two, and Willie down with 1, so 

2054
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:27,320
#4 and Dalton. 
And I know that you're going to 

2055
01:41:27,320 --> 01:41:30,880
be wanting this one to be true 
of nothing else because you had 

2056
01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:33,720
problems with the ending. 
The original ending that Ridley 

2057
01:41:33,720 --> 01:41:37,480
Scott planned for Alien One 
involved the Alien killing 

2058
01:41:37,480 --> 01:41:42,360
Ripley and narrating the ending 
monologue with her voice factor.

2059
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:44,080
Crap. 
I think we've come back around 

2060
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,480
full circle, Jeff. 
You get first crack at it. 

2061
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,760
I'm going to say crap. 
I think it was always his 

2062
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:53,240
intention to keep her alive. 
All. 

2063
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:55,760
Right, Dalton, what do you think
you're up next? 

2064
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,120
Fact. 
That's exactly how these movies 

2065
01:41:57,120 --> 01:42:00,160
should have ended. 
I think it's true just. 

2066
01:42:00,160 --> 01:42:01,200
I had a feeling you'd feel that 
way. 

2067
01:42:01,200 --> 01:42:02,480
I think it's. 
True, just because it's a little

2068
01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:04,160
too spectacular for you to have 
made-up. 

2069
01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,840
I don't think you would have 
come up with the alien puppeteer

2070
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:10,320
thing on your own, because it 
seems a little bit unrealistic 

2071
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:14,680
for a fairly sensible series. 
That one actually is a fact. 

2072
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,680
Yeah, I thought it sounded 
really cartoony when I read it. 

2073
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:22,200
So Scott apparently envisioned 
the Xenomorph biting off 

2074
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,440
Ripley's head and sitting in the
chair speaking with her voice. 

2075
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:30,080
But the 20th Century Fox exec 
said not no, but hell no and 

2076
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,560
overrode them and we ended up 
with the ending that we have. 

2077
01:42:32,600 --> 01:42:34,840
Fucking suits ruining 
everything. 

2078
01:42:34,840 --> 01:42:38,480
Man. 
That have been a great ending. 

2079
01:42:38,640 --> 01:42:41,080
Are you fucking kidding me? 
She's just like sitting there. 

2080
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:44,000
She's in her undies looking all 
hot and all of a sudden, hot 

2081
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:47,600
shot Trump. 
Now I'm going to speak to you 

2082
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:51,160
with my human voice. 
Come on. 

2083
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:53,800
Sipping Brandy, smoking a cigar.
Exactly. 

2084
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,840
I think it would be great if the
Alien's human voice sounded like

2085
01:42:56,840 --> 01:42:59,480
Bandit Cumberbatch trying to do 
an American accent and Doctor 

2086
01:42:59,480 --> 01:43:04,440
Strange. 
It's almost, but not quite 

2087
01:43:04,440 --> 01:43:06,600
human. 
Also I feel like they could have

2088
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:09,320
done a few of the shots better 
in the in the original alien 

2089
01:43:09,320 --> 01:43:13,120
movie to keep it. 
Like so anytime they just showed

2090
01:43:13,120 --> 01:43:17,400
the alien from like shoulders, 
but it was fucking menacing. 

2091
01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:19,960
Anytime they showed the entire 
alien it was like, oh, it's just

2092
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,200
a dude in a suit. 
So like if they had kept it 

2093
01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:26,840
really like I don't know if they
just just angled it. 

2094
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,880
That's just a personal thing 
though, you know. 70s dude. 

2095
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:32,240
Yeah, I got to remember. 
It came out in 79. 

2096
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,560
I got to remember. 
Well every time they did a close

2097
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:37,320
up on the aliens head they 
always made sure to shoot it in 

2098
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:41,040
profile because they used a 
model of a human skull for the 

2099
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,800
front end of it and they were 
afraid that if they spent too 

2100
01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:47,400
much time looking head on it 
would look too human because you

2101
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:50,920
can really see a human jaw when 
you look at the xenomorphs face.

2102
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:53,080
So that. 
Brings us to question 5. 

2103
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:57,000
Dalton is in the lead with four 
against Jeff and Willie's 2. 

2104
01:43:57,000 --> 01:43:59,840
So just to make things 
interesting, give everybody else

2105
01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:01,720
a run and go, we're going to 
make this last one worth 3 

2106
01:44:01,720 --> 01:44:05,840
points. 
So #5 Michael Bean Hicks from 

2107
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:09,440
Aliens 2 has the distinct 
daughter of being the only actor

2108
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:12,960
killed on screen by US cinema's 
three deadliest icons, the 

2109
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:14,840
Terminator, the Xenomorph, and 
the Predator. 

2110
01:44:14,840 --> 01:44:16,280
Factor. 
Crap, Dalton. 

2111
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:19,000
What were the three? 
The Terminator, the Xenomorph, 

2112
01:44:19,000 --> 01:44:21,720
and the Predator. 
I've never seen, I've never seen

2113
01:44:21,720 --> 01:44:25,360
Predator and it's been a long 
time since I've seen Terminator.

2114
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:27,200
But just for shits and giggles 
fact. 

2115
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:29,160
Because that would be a cool 
distinction to have. 

2116
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,320
OK. 
I'm almost certain I've actually

2117
01:44:31,320 --> 01:44:33,600
heard this is true before. 
Like this sounds familiar. 

2118
01:44:33,600 --> 01:44:36,160
I'm gonna go fact. 
So will you say in fact? 

2119
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:38,560
I can't win, but that's OK. 
No, it's worth 3 points. 

2120
01:44:38,560 --> 01:44:40,160
You can't. 
Dalton said fact also. 

2121
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:44,400
Well, I know this. 
It's crap for two reasons. 

2122
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:49,320
One, it's Bill Paxton. 
And two, I have real I call 

2123
01:44:49,320 --> 01:44:52,440
bullshit when he's being killed 
by the Terminator because all 

2124
01:44:52,440 --> 01:44:55,640
that happens is he gets pushed 
into a fence and gets knocked 

2125
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:56,600
out. 
That's it. 

2126
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:59,680
We don't see him die on screen. 
Dude, are you kidding me? 

2127
01:44:59,680 --> 01:45:04,040
He hits his head, causes a brain
embolism, and he bleeds out from

2128
01:45:04,040 --> 01:45:06,760
the inside. 
I call bullshit, his Mohawk 

2129
01:45:07,080 --> 01:45:09,680
protected his head. 
There's a lot of bikers that 

2130
01:45:09,680 --> 01:45:16,600
would say otherwise. 
So Jeff is correct that one was.

2131
01:45:16,600 --> 01:45:17,560
Crap. 
Oh God damn. 

2132
01:45:17,880 --> 01:45:22,480
It that highest honor in cinema 
is held in fact by Bill Paxton, 

2133
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:26,440
who began his right bad of run 
luck run of mad luck with the 

2134
01:45:26,440 --> 01:45:29,600
Terminator, continued it in 
Aliens, and ended it in Predator

2135
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:32,720
2. 
Michael Bean did meet an 

2136
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,920
untimely end in Terminator and 
died between films and 

2137
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:40,160
cryostasis on Aliens and Alien 
3, but he was not in a Predator 

2138
01:45:40,160 --> 01:45:43,560
movie so. 
Which which one of the Predator 

2139
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:46,720
movies had Jesse Ventura in it? 
Was that just the president? 

2140
01:45:46,720 --> 01:45:47,880
One that's. 
I. 

2141
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:52,360
Don't have time to bleed? 
I can't believe you've ever saw 

2142
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:54,880
the the first Predator. 
That movie's fantastic. 

2143
01:45:55,000 --> 01:45:57,320
I just, I don't know. 
I just know that Jesse Ventura 

2144
01:45:57,400 --> 01:46:00,160
was in it and he now lives in 
the Baja. 

2145
01:46:00,560 --> 01:46:01,920
So, Jeff, that makes you the 
winner. 

2146
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:02,800
You want to know what you've 
won. 

2147
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:05,840
Do tell. 
A lifetime supply of tinfoil 

2148
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,200
hats to guard against the coming
alien apocalypse. 

2149
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,920
Sponsored by Reynolds. 
Rab yes, Outstanding. 

2150
01:46:10,920 --> 01:46:12,960
It's what I it's my lifelong 
dream. 

2151
01:46:13,200 --> 01:46:15,960
And the consolation prize? 
A new car. 

2152
01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:21,640
No, a copy of the home game. 
A new car? 

2153
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:22,760
The home game. 
Oh man. 

2154
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,400
I'm trying to do better about 
coming up with prizes since 

2155
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,200
Willie put me on blast one time 
for not having one prepared. 

2156
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:34,640
All right then, boys, that's an.
Improv show man, think of shit. 

2157
01:46:35,360 --> 01:46:37,200
You can't just write down your 
whole thing. 

2158
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:39,520
Because what we do appreciate. 
But I drink a. 

2159
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:42,960
Consolation prize is a lifetime 
supply of pudding snack packs. 

2160
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:46,280
God damn it. 
I want my where's my fucking 

2161
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:48,080
snack pack? 
Yeah, you'll get a lifetime 

2162
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:49,680
supply. 
The bad news is your life ends 

2163
01:46:49,680 --> 01:46:52,960
in 5 minutes. 
Some of the questions are 

2164
01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:54,600
actually most of the questions 
are visual. 

2165
01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:58,360
I did take the chance and post 
them in the recording chat. 

2166
01:46:58,360 --> 01:46:59,360
So if you guys want to open that
you. 

2167
01:46:59,360 --> 01:47:01,520
Can see that kind of glad. 
Yeah. 

2168
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,240
Right underneath the GIF I 
posted of Rosario Dawson. 

2169
01:47:04,680 --> 01:47:09,920
God, Rosario Dawson, my I would 
just do things to her, 

2170
01:47:10,680 --> 01:47:13,440
especially in Clerks 2. 
Like there's a few different 

2171
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:15,480
scenes in that movie that I'm 
just like, yes, ma'am, you're. 

2172
01:47:15,680 --> 01:47:18,000
Gonna have to stop watching this
GIF eventually and I don't like 

2173
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:19,840
that fact. 
Well, it's better to look at 

2174
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:22,360
this and the Jeffrey Jones right
above it. 

2175
01:47:23,120 --> 01:47:25,720
That's true. 
That's true. 

2176
01:47:26,480 --> 01:47:28,440
So our first question comes in 
from Adam. 

2177
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:31,720
And this is a thing that says, 
well, I'm gonna ignore the top 

2178
01:47:31,720 --> 01:47:35,880
part for now. 
Which country makes the best 

2179
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:40,760
cars and your choices are out of
this list is Italy, the United 

2180
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:44,480
States, India, Great Britain or 
Germany? 

2181
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:47,160
This is this is silly man. 
This has to be an English person

2182
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:49,760
because who would have put India
there and not like Japan and 

2183
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,960
Korea? 
Have you ever driven a Tata? 

2184
01:47:52,160 --> 01:47:55,400
No, I wouldn't have. 
Heard of a Taha, a Tata, but I 

2185
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:58,000
bet Jesse Ventura drives one of 
those Bajas. 

2186
01:47:59,080 --> 01:48:02,680
Yeah, this is a hard call for me
because three of the four cars 

2187
01:48:02,680 --> 01:48:06,000
that I've owned in my lifetime 
were Japanese. 

2188
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:10,320
And the one American car I 
owned, while it was nice, it 

2189
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:13,480
was, it did not hold up to the 
abuse that I put it through. 

2190
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:17,800
So I'm going to say Germany. 
And here is the one qualifier 

2191
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:21,280
that I'm putting for why I 
choose that their cars cheat on 

2192
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:23,960
tests. 
That is truly folks, if you 

2193
01:48:23,960 --> 01:48:28,240
heard only Volkswagen. 
VW got yeah, VW got busted for 

2194
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:31,000
detecting when it was being 
hooked up to a machine to test 

2195
01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:33,400
its emissions, and it would 
change the way it ran so it 

2196
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:35,440
would pass the test and then 
turn that off whenever you 

2197
01:48:35,440 --> 01:48:36,400
actually took it out on the 
road. 

2198
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:39,720
That is tremendous. 
I mean terrible, but 

2199
01:48:39,720 --> 01:48:41,560
tremendously. 
Yeah, it turned out to be like 

2200
01:48:41,560 --> 01:48:44,600
one of the worst polluting 
vehicles on the on the market. 

2201
01:48:44,840 --> 01:48:47,920
VW Yeah. 
But they got away with it for a 

2202
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:49,720
while and you got to respect the
hustle. 

2203
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,720
I am also going with Germany 
just for German ingenuity. 

2204
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:59,200
Like, and if I was going to buy 
any of these cars, like say I 

2205
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:02,440
had some money, I'm probably not
going to buy a Lamborghini or a 

2206
01:49:02,440 --> 01:49:05,280
Ferrari. 
I'm a big man, right? 

2207
01:49:05,640 --> 01:49:09,960
Like I love the look of sports 
cars, but once you hit a certain

2208
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,720
height and weight limit in life,
you realize that sports cars are

2209
01:49:12,720 --> 01:49:17,200
not for you, right? 
So like a Mercedes, I can get 

2210
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,280
like a Benz, like a big Mercedes
and be fine. 

2211
01:49:20,440 --> 01:49:22,920
And that's that's German. 
You know, I can get a big 

2212
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:25,960
Volkswagen probably can't fit in
a Porsche, but I would like to 

2213
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:29,760
try because I really I have 
always had a love for Porsche 9 

2214
01:49:29,760 --> 01:49:35,000
Elevens, don't know why. 
And then Audi, BMW, there's just

2215
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:37,240
so many good German company. 
I'm the one in Germany. 

2216
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:42,040
I'm not, I'm taking Deutschland 
as well, but with the reasoning 

2217
01:49:42,040 --> 01:49:45,160
of they're just the only ones 
I'm not eliminating because OK, 

2218
01:49:45,160 --> 01:49:49,280
First off, USA, you know fine. 
We used to be pretty good. 

2219
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:51,080
We've shuttered half of our 
brands. 

2220
01:49:51,320 --> 01:49:53,000
Most of the cars were made 
elsewhere. 

2221
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:54,800
The money just goes to American 
CE OS. 

2222
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:56,320
Who gives a shit? 
They're not American cars. 

2223
01:49:56,320 --> 01:49:58,920
I don't care. 
Italy is for people who care too

2224
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,960
much about cars. 
Like if you drive an Italian car

2225
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:05,480
you are a car nerd and I just 
don't have it in me. 

2226
01:50:06,360 --> 01:50:10,320
India is on here because someone
was thinking about them and just

2227
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:12,840
didn't think about countries 
that make good cars. 

2228
01:50:13,160 --> 01:50:16,720
And Great Britain's cars are 
cute, but they're mostly just 

2229
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:18,360
for the idle will rich, I feel 
like. 

2230
01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:21,000
If you think about it, India 
might be on there just for the 

2231
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:24,080
sheer amount of those cars that 
they probably have to make for 

2232
01:50:24,080 --> 01:50:25,520
India. 
Yeah, I've got to think that 

2233
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:28,520
there's probably like 
5,5,000,000 top for like 500 

2234
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:30,440
million Tatas in service. 
We just don't know about it 

2235
01:50:30,440 --> 01:50:32,120
because they don't get this far 
over here. 

2236
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:35,240
Yeah, like there's a lot of 
people in India, you know, makes

2237
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,360
me wonder about like Chinese 
these cars and stuff cuz I'm 

2238
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:39,560
sure there's a ton of those. 
Well, maybe. 

2239
01:50:39,680 --> 01:50:41,560
They're absolutely. 
So. 

2240
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:46,240
Fun fact, real quick, fun fact. 
Donald Trump's America First 

2241
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:48,360
Bibles were made in China. 
Of course of. 

2242
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:52,080
Course, just thought that was. 
Kind of a ironic fact. 

2243
01:50:53,080 --> 01:50:54,880
Well, you remember from the 
first time he ran, he loves 

2244
01:50:54,880 --> 01:50:56,920
China. 
Love China. 

2245
01:50:57,120 --> 01:51:00,240
China yeah Big Horn dumb fuck. 
Anyway they. 

2246
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:03,320
Have they have delicious food? 
I, you know, here's the thing, 

2247
01:51:03,440 --> 01:51:06,240
here's the thing, I would 
bucking love to go to China. 

2248
01:51:06,240 --> 01:51:08,800
I love Chinese lore. 
I love Chinese history. 

2249
01:51:08,800 --> 01:51:11,320
Romance of the three kingdoms, 
one of my favorite stories, 

2250
01:51:11,320 --> 01:51:13,320
right? 
I, I mean, I haven't listened to

2251
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:15,600
it in years, but I used to 
listen to a podcast that he just

2252
01:51:15,600 --> 01:51:17,400
read through Romance of the 
three Kingdoms and it was 

2253
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:20,520
tremendous. 
The storytelling, the hundreds 

2254
01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:22,760
of years old storytelling still 
holds up, right? 

2255
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:24,680
But China's just so sketchy, 
man. 

2256
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,320
It just worries me about about 
going over there as an American,

2257
01:51:27,320 --> 01:51:30,240
you know? 
But like, their architecture, 

2258
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:33,240
their agriculture, it's all 
fucking beautiful. 

2259
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:35,320
I get that they have their areas
that aren't. 

2260
01:51:35,320 --> 01:51:37,680
It's kind of like how North 
Korea's got that one whole fake 

2261
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:40,680
ass city, which is just weird, 
right? 

2262
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:44,000
But I would love to go to China 
once things if things ever 

2263
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:48,360
settle in my lifetime. 
But for my answer first, this 

2264
01:51:48,360 --> 01:51:52,400
one's just for Jeremy Ferrari. 
Overrated crap. 

2265
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:54,160
Why do you want to start 
something? 

2266
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:57,440
Shots fired. 
Shots fired. 

2267
01:51:58,000 --> 01:52:01,480
I think I'm also going to go 
with Germany just for the sole 

2268
01:52:01,480 --> 01:52:05,280
reason that out of all the the 
these brands for their 

2269
01:52:05,280 --> 01:52:08,640
countries, they have the more 
reliable vehicles. 

2270
01:52:08,840 --> 01:52:11,680
They're expenses that fuck, but 
they're pretty reliable. 

2271
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:14,160
Yeah, these were the cars that 
were known for being reliable 

2272
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:16,680
before, like Honda and stuff got
that reputation. 

2273
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:20,200
They used to be now Mercedes, 
Beamer, all of them actually, 

2274
01:52:20,200 --> 01:52:22,000
Their reliability has really 
tanked. 

2275
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:25,680
But and but on this list, 
there's still the more reliable.

2276
01:52:25,840 --> 01:52:28,000
I mean, Saturday Fiat, right? 
Let's get gifts. 

2277
01:52:28,040 --> 01:52:30,120
Get real. 
It's of course it's Fiat. 

2278
01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:32,480
Man, all this. 
All this for Deutschland. 

2279
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:34,360
Fatherland. 
You have all, yeah. 

2280
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:36,160
Of all mine flowing? 
Yeah. 

2281
01:52:36,160 --> 01:52:37,840
Of all. 
It's like how white no, that's 

2282
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:39,200
wrong. 
Oh, no, no, no. 

2283
01:52:39,200 --> 01:52:40,600
We're not going there. 
Not going there. 

2284
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:46,480
Strike that from the record. 
So the next one comes in from 

2285
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:51,440
me, Moi, You get to spend $10 in
the $5 tier. 

2286
01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:54,880
You've got Twinkies, doughnuts. 
Put a pin in doughnuts. 

2287
01:52:54,880 --> 01:52:57,000
We're going to have a little 
conversation about those and 

2288
01:52:57,000 --> 01:53:00,440
cupcakes. 
The, the Hostess cupcakes are 

2289
01:53:00,440 --> 01:53:04,160
Little Debbie, whichever one it 
is, number 4 or #4 four dollars 

2290
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:08,480
Ho Hos mini muffins, casbars, 
put a pen in mini muffins. 

2291
01:53:08,480 --> 01:53:12,720
I have a bitch about those $3. 
You got honey bun melt more and 

2292
01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:17,080
Ding Dongs $2.00 you got fruit 
pie, baby bunts, and snowballs. 

2293
01:53:17,240 --> 01:53:20,400
It's not the flavor, it's the 
texture and number. 

2294
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:25,040
And for the $1.00 you got 
zingers, Danish and bouncers. 

2295
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:28,920
I can't answer but Nate and Kata
already know my answer so 

2296
01:53:29,080 --> 01:53:32,160
mystery for all the listeners. 
No, I mean. 

2297
01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:33,880
I don't know your answer, 
motherfucker. 

2298
01:53:33,880 --> 01:53:38,160
You better answer, bitch. 
I'm going to go with cupcake. 

2299
01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:42,440
Don't don't read spoilers. 
Go with cupcake, Ding Dong and 

2300
01:53:42,440 --> 01:53:44,560
fruit pie. 
All right, good answer, Good 

2301
01:53:44,560 --> 01:53:46,360
answer, good answer. 
Good answer. 

2302
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:47,840
Good answer. 
Yeah, good. 

2303
01:53:47,840 --> 01:53:49,960
It's a good Golf Club. 
Willie, what about you? 

2304
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,080
We. 
Get the ho ho, the Ding Dong and

2305
01:53:52,080 --> 01:53:54,440
the honey bun skinny. 
Get in and out clean. 

2306
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:55,760
Get your fingers a little 
sticky. 

2307
01:53:56,640 --> 01:53:59,440
The hell yeah, Dane. 
Call me Tallahassee, I'm on a 

2308
01:53:59,440 --> 01:54:02,880
double dip and get 2 Twinkies. 
All right, fair enough. 

2309
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:04,240
I just don't like any of the 
others. 

2310
01:54:04,440 --> 01:54:06,040
I don't. 
I don't like Twinkies. 

2311
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:09,240
They leave that nasty, I call it
film. 

2312
01:54:09,440 --> 01:54:10,280
What? 
Yeah. 

2313
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:13,360
That that doughnut mouth thing 
that you get from the cheap 

2314
01:54:13,480 --> 01:54:15,000
grocery store doughnuts. 
Yeah. 

2315
01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:18,720
That they make in house. 
I don't get that from Twinkies. 

2316
01:54:18,720 --> 01:54:22,880
So. 
So my answer is actually so I'm 

2317
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:27,640
going casbars honey buns. 
No, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm 

2318
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:30,600
sorry I don't fucked up. 
I'm going casbars, Ho ho's 

2319
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:34,840
Danish and zingers. 
I fucking love a Danish. 

2320
01:54:35,040 --> 01:54:39,400
If if you 3 gentlemen have not 
tried casbars. 

2321
01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:42,000
Yeah, I don't know what that is.
I've never heard of a casbar. 

2322
01:54:42,640 --> 01:54:46,000
Rock the casbah, they are 
fucking phenomenal. 

2323
01:54:46,000 --> 01:54:48,960
So it's like 2 chocolate cake 
pieces right? 

2324
01:54:49,080 --> 01:54:54,160
And in the middle is like this 
caramel crispy rice. 

2325
01:54:54,560 --> 01:54:59,000
Oh, that's awesome. 
Mixture, it is delectable. 

2326
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:01,800
They sell them. 
You can just get one that's like

2327
01:55:01,800 --> 01:55:05,440
a a bar size comes in like 2 
pieces I think or you can get 

2328
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,840
the little mini pieces. 
If you're in Walmart they're 

2329
01:55:07,840 --> 01:55:10,640
like a dollar or your local 
grocery store. 

2330
01:55:10,680 --> 01:55:13,640
If you see one, think of me grab
it, try it. 

2331
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:15,440
Let me know what you think. 
This goes out to the listeners 

2332
01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,040
too Casbar. 
I've heard them plug this on Tad

2333
01:55:18,040 --> 01:55:22,960
Pog before. 
Ian brought in one for them to 

2334
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:26,000
try but they were like all 
splitting one of the small ones 

2335
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,080
and like you don't get enough 
from that. 

2336
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,680
So like absolutely not. 
You need to eat a full fucking 

2337
01:55:30,680 --> 01:55:32,560
either a whole piece or a whole 
bar. 

2338
01:55:32,760 --> 01:55:34,600
CAS bars are the shit. 
It must be. 

2339
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,560
We've bought them before here at
the house. 

2340
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:40,280
My wife and the kid both love 
them but I wasn't that crazy on 

2341
01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:41,840
them. 
I and I'm the only person in the

2342
01:55:41,840 --> 01:55:44,360
house that likes Twinkies so I 
always know if I buy a box of 

2343
01:55:44,360 --> 01:55:47,040
those are safe. 
And but it must be something 

2344
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:50,240
below the Mason Dixie line 
because I've never heard of them

2345
01:55:50,280 --> 01:55:53,040
and I've never, well, if I've 
never heard of them, I've 

2346
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:55,360
definitely never seen them. 
Well, next time you're in that 

2347
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:57,760
section of the store, look for 
them because you might have just

2348
01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:59,080
looked over them and never 
noticed. 

2349
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,640
Oh, never mind, you worked in a 
fucking grocery store. 

2350
01:56:02,400 --> 01:56:04,600
I quit that job, Sir. 
No, I said. 

2351
01:56:04,600 --> 01:56:06,520
That's why I said worked. 
There was an Ed on there. 

2352
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:07,840
Oh. 
I didn't hear the Ed, What was I

2353
01:56:07,840 --> 01:56:10,160
going to say? 
EDI feel attacked. 

2354
01:56:12,120 --> 01:56:13,320
I forgot what I was going to 
say. 

2355
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:16,960
All right, moving on. 
So the next the next picture is 

2356
01:56:17,080 --> 01:56:20,040
a bowl of candy from Halloween. 
It says, what are you grabbing 

2357
01:56:20,040 --> 01:56:22,240
first? 
So just for the for the 

2358
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:25,160
listeners, we got some Almond 
Joy, York Peppermint Patties, 

2359
01:56:25,160 --> 01:56:30,080
Reese's Cups, Twix 100 Grand 
Almond Joy, Milky Way M&M's, 

2360
01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:34,080
Peanut M&M's, and did I say 
Twix? 

2361
01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:36,560
You did now. 
OK, yeah, and twigs. 

2362
01:56:36,760 --> 01:56:38,440
Wait, are those Reese's cups in 
the bottom? 

2363
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:40,600
I'm taking the Reese's. 
Yeah, I was gonna say they're 

2364
01:56:40,600 --> 01:56:43,080
trying to hide the Reese's Cups 
away from us, but yeah, I'm 

2365
01:56:43,080 --> 01:56:45,480
getting that sneaking my big 
rubber hand in there. 

2366
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,360
I feel like a nut. 
I'm grabbing an Almond Joy. 

2367
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,680
Bruh OK so yeah I would either 
be going for the Almond Joy of 

2368
01:56:50,680 --> 01:56:55,360
the 100 grand or I would 
slightly dig my way through 

2369
01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:58,280
looking for a Mounds bar. 
You like that dark chocolates? 

2370
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:02,640
You like those mounds? 
I do love mounds, man. 

2371
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:04,880
The there's the dark chocolate 
with the coconuts. 

2372
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:07,320
Just good. 
But yeah, of those right there 

2373
01:57:07,320 --> 01:57:08,920
on top, I'm probably gonna grab 
the 100 grand. 

2374
01:57:09,120 --> 01:57:11,800
Coconut is terrible. 
Fuck you I. 

2375
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:14,880
I already do. 
All right, Next up, Mikhilov 

2376
01:57:14,920 --> 01:57:17,920
wants to know, would you rather 
have sex with an alien or a 

2377
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:19,240
predator? 
Why not both? 

2378
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:21,840
Yeah, I think that argument 
still stands with the pedalia. 

2379
01:57:22,120 --> 01:57:25,000
I think you're you have the best
chance of surviving the 

2380
01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:28,280
predator, or at least dying in a
way that'll feel good. 

2381
01:57:28,600 --> 01:57:30,800
That'll just be a rough lover. 
Yeah, exactly. 

2382
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:31,400
That's my thought. 
I'm. 

2383
01:57:31,640 --> 01:57:33,680
Going to say Alien because I 
dealt with a Predator when I was

2384
01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:36,240
a kid. 
Oh, that's terrible. 

2385
01:57:36,680 --> 01:57:38,200
Done, done, done. 
I was so. 

2386
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:44,000
Sorry Lord, I apologize you. 
Know I was looking for Halloween

2387
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:47,360
costumes for kids and I'm pretty
sure I'm on a list of the search

2388
01:57:47,360 --> 01:57:52,720
for child predator costume. 
You don't get what you'd expect.

2389
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:56,560
So the next question. 
Who are you supposed to be? 

2390
01:57:56,560 --> 01:57:58,760
Oh, it's just a little mini 
Jeffrey Jones. 

2391
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:02,120
Not the dude from the old Subway
commercials. 

2392
01:58:02,600 --> 01:58:06,680
Pedophile dude. 
Yeah, they say you're like it 

2393
01:58:06,680 --> 01:58:08,480
was starts with AJ sound. 
Jared, what the? 

2394
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:11,400
Fuck, was it Jared? 
Jared yeah, you know, a button 

2395
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:14,440
up shirt and you get a extra, 
extra, extra large pair of pants

2396
01:58:14,440 --> 01:58:15,640
you just hold over your 
shoulder. 

2397
01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:19,720
So the next question comes in 
from Adam. 

2398
01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:23,280
Did you ever end up using the 
Xenomorph as a weapon against 

2399
01:58:23,280 --> 01:58:25,440
the other enemies? 
Like using a noisemaker near 

2400
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,600
them and getting the Alien to 
clear them out for you. 

2401
01:58:28,080 --> 01:58:31,400
That sounds I mean. 
You did an accident, I guess, 

2402
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,200
but you did. 
I did an accident just out of 

2403
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,920
sheer fear. 
I knew that that was a thing you

2404
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:39,840
could do, and I tried. 
I never had any luck getting the

2405
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:43,160
fucking noisemaker to actually 
draw the attention of anything. 

2406
01:58:43,160 --> 01:58:45,600
The whole time I was playing the
game, and most of the time I was

2407
01:58:45,600 --> 01:58:48,760
using it was when I, you know, 
it was that fucking sense 

2408
01:58:48,760 --> 01:58:50,800
everywhere trying to distract 
them. 

2409
01:58:50,800 --> 01:58:54,200
And all it did was like, hey, I 
heard somebody throw something 

2410
01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:57,600
from over there and it's like it
drew them straight to me every 

2411
01:58:57,600 --> 01:58:59,240
time. 
Maybe I just had bad luck with 

2412
01:58:59,240 --> 01:59:00,560
it. 
I didn't manage to get the alien

2413
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:03,720
to kill anybody intentionally. 
Yes, and my answer is no. 

2414
01:59:03,720 --> 01:59:07,080
My goods are I did not. 
All right, so next question 

2415
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:10,280
comes in from Dane. 
Do you prefer safe words or the 

2416
01:59:10,280 --> 01:59:12,480
car key kill switch? 
For those of you who do not 

2417
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:16,280
know, because you are good boys 
and girls, the car key kill 

2418
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:18,640
switch is when you hold on to 
your car keys while you're doing

2419
01:59:18,640 --> 01:59:20,920
whatever sexually that could be 
possibly dangerous. 

2420
01:59:21,000 --> 01:59:22,880
Because when you lose 
conscience, you will drop them 

2421
01:59:22,880 --> 01:59:24,040
and they will clang on the 
floor. 

2422
01:59:24,200 --> 01:59:27,400
There might be a situation where
you can't speak to use a safe 

2423
01:59:27,400 --> 01:59:31,000
word, for instance. 
Yes, like maybe you are gagged 

2424
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:34,840
and tied up. 
So I'm going to go car key kill 

2425
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:36,840
switch just because it's like 
the safer route of the two. 

2426
01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:40,000
Although anytime I hear safe 
word I cannot help but think of 

2427
01:59:40,000 --> 01:59:44,360
the Jackass movie and what's his
Preston tied up and the 

2428
01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:47,200
dominatrix is whipping him and 
his safe word is Oklahoma and 

2429
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:50,400
he's just going Oklahoma, 
Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, 

2430
01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:52,760
Oklahoma, Oklahoma, Oklahoma, 
Oklahoma, Oklahoma. 

2431
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,200
My safe word is Oklahoma because
of that sketch. 

2432
02:00:00,560 --> 02:00:03,760
I wish that were a joke, but no.
And that is why you ordained 

2433
02:00:03,760 --> 02:00:07,720
himself tremendous. 
What about you boys? 

2434
02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:09,120
I'm making you answer this 
question. 

2435
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:11,280
I have no thoughts on this. 
I have nothing. 

2436
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:13,360
Fair enough. 
Those are at least answers. 

2437
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:15,840
Kind of. 
I mean, it's all the answer I 

2438
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:17,880
have. 
I'm not like keeping anything 

2439
02:00:17,880 --> 02:00:20,400
from you. 
I just my, my brain is just 

2440
02:00:20,760 --> 02:00:24,040
turning it over like slow 
chewing gum and nothing is 

2441
02:00:24,040 --> 02:00:26,320
coming out. 
The gum flavored has already 

2442
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:27,960
been chewed out of it. 
All right. 

2443
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:31,040
Well then Dane, do you, do you 
have a one that you prefer? 

2444
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:32,400
Did you already say it and it 
was high? 

2445
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:34,400
Safe word Oklahoma. 
Like no joke. 

2446
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:37,760
Fair enough. 
That that said, for the record, 

2447
02:00:37,760 --> 02:00:42,200
my sex life is rather vanilla, 
but it is well established that 

2448
02:00:42,200 --> 02:00:44,160
Oklahoma is my safe word. 
My wife knows it. 

2449
02:00:45,120 --> 02:00:46,760
All right. 
Then our our last question then 

2450
02:00:46,760 --> 02:00:50,520
comes in from Jeff and it's a 
picture you get to pick four 

2451
02:00:50,520 --> 02:00:55,760
boxes of Eggos. 
We got a buttermilk B chocolate 

2452
02:00:55,760 --> 02:01:01,840
chip brownie C Fruit loops D 
blueberry E cinnamon brown sugar

2453
02:01:02,120 --> 02:01:04,600
F homestyle. 
The letters don't matter. 

2454
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:09,520
Egg egg OG Belgian vanilla, 
cinnamon toast, confetti, 

2455
02:01:09,600 --> 02:01:13,800
strawberry butter Maple, buttery
Maple, Belgian chocolate. 

2456
02:01:14,400 --> 02:01:16,480
Someone look up buttery Maple 
Belgian. 

2457
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:19,920
Not right now, but just someone 
look that up on urban dictionary

2458
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:23,280
and get back to me. 
Chocolate chip, Banana loaded, 

2459
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:27,400
Strawberry, Mickey and friends, 
Cinnamon, churro, Apple, 

2460
02:01:27,400 --> 02:01:31,320
cinnamon, Belgian Chocolate 
chip, Berry Blast Minis, and 

2461
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:33,840
Chocolate chip. 
You get to pick four boxes. 

2462
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:35,360
Gentlemen. 
Jeff, you picked this question. 

2463
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:38,600
You go first, fucker. 
What doesn't everyone like 

2464
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:41,240
Eggo's? 
Oh yeah, don't Lego my Eggo. 

2465
02:01:41,400 --> 02:01:48,600
So I am picking 3DS and A which 
is blueberry and just give me a 

2466
02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:53,160
basic homestyle. 
Oh, right, yeah, Homestyle is on

2467
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:54,040
there. 
OK, Yeah, OK. 

2468
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:57,440
All right, Willie, what about? 
You I do not understand why 

2469
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:00,120
there are so many different 
kinds of sugary eggos. 

2470
02:02:00,120 --> 02:02:02,880
Like they're only kind of made 
of food in the 1st place. 

2471
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:05,240
Why are we doing this to them? 
There are some of these that 

2472
02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:06,600
make me question them, yeah, 
but. 

2473
02:02:07,120 --> 02:02:08,800
I'm just loops. 
I have questions. 

2474
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:11,400
I'm gonna go buttermilk, 
homestyle, blueberry, 

2475
02:02:11,400 --> 02:02:13,440
strawberry. 
That way I just have things that

2476
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:16,320
are made of earth flavors. 
All right, old Def. 

2477
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:19,440
Lepp, what about you? 
Before I answer, you asked for 

2478
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:20,200
this. 
Confetti. 

2479
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:25,360
Jesus Christ. 
I searched Buttery Maple Belgian

2480
02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:31,320
on Urban dictionary and the 
closest hit I got was Maple 

2481
02:02:31,320 --> 02:02:32,960
Buttering. 
Oh God. 

2482
02:02:33,360 --> 02:02:38,400
So the act of finishing on a 
woman's breasts after smothering

2483
02:02:38,400 --> 02:02:41,440
them in pure Maple syrup and 
then proceeding to use your face

2484
02:02:41,440 --> 02:02:43,440
like a knife and motor boating. 
So. 

2485
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:45,000
Oh. 
OK, I was about to say this is 

2486
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:46,960
not as bad as I thought it was 
going to be, and then it became 

2487
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,840
as bad as I figured it was. 
So, all right, so. 

2488
02:02:50,280 --> 02:02:52,800
There you go and learn that. 
You know what's sterile? 

2489
02:02:53,440 --> 02:02:56,760
Now for something wholesome, a 
nice breakfast food, it's. 

2490
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:57,960
Not wholesome. 
You're going to make us eat 

2491
02:02:57,960 --> 02:03:03,200
confetti egos like a monster. 
So I'm looking at this stuff and

2492
02:03:04,400 --> 02:03:08,440
honestly, I'm bougie and I have 
a waffle iron that we use more 

2493
02:03:08,440 --> 02:03:11,040
often than not. 
But whenever we do buy it goes, 

2494
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:14,120
it's usually for the kid and 
it's always chocolate chip. 

2495
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:18,960
So if I'm going to add another 
three, I guess I could add 

2496
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:22,240
chocolate chip banana because 
she might eat that, chocolate 

2497
02:03:22,240 --> 02:03:24,480
chip brownie because I know 
she'll eat that. 

2498
02:03:24,600 --> 02:03:27,000
And then I guess just some 
regular buttermilk ones be in 

2499
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:30,400
case I actually want to eat 1. 
All right, all right. 

2500
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:34,400
So I like fruity stuff. 
So I think I'm gonna definitely 

2501
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:38,080
go blueberry and strawberry. 
I might try the loaded 

2502
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:41,240
strawberry. 
It looks artificial in some way.

2503
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,720
It's hard for me to quantify. 
They're. 

2504
02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:45,920
Yeah, where's the blue? 
Ones they're, they're good, but 

2505
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:46,920
they are. 
Shut up. 

2506
02:03:47,720 --> 02:03:50,040
Get out. 
Not you. 

2507
02:03:50,040 --> 02:03:53,080
Too bad not talking. 
He's definitely talking to Dane.

2508
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:55,720
Yeah. 
And then I'm gonna go with the 

2509
02:03:55,800 --> 02:03:57,800
ones that I might eat without 
syrup. 

2510
02:03:57,840 --> 02:04:00,480
Cinnamon Churro. 
You know, that one does sound 

2511
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:03,560
like it has the potential to be 
something like you said, without

2512
02:04:03,560 --> 02:04:05,280
syrup. 
Maybe just like toast it up and 

2513
02:04:05,280 --> 02:04:07,240
have it by itself? 
Maybe add some butter to it? 

2514
02:04:07,600 --> 02:04:10,000
There could be something there. 
I'd be willing to try it. 

2515
02:04:10,560 --> 02:04:12,680
Well gentlemen, that brings us 
to the end. 

2516
02:04:12,680 --> 02:04:15,920
So before I go and plug our 
stuff, guess go ahead and plug 

2517
02:04:16,000 --> 02:04:19,400
your stuff. 
Well, you can hear me and Jeff 

2518
02:04:19,560 --> 02:04:22,560
over on Dane and Jeff's Media 
Dump where as we mentioned 

2519
02:04:22,560 --> 02:04:26,120
earlier, if you haven't checked 
it out yet, the boys were with 

2520
02:04:26,120 --> 02:04:27,920
us and we covered Alien last 
week. 

2521
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:30,600
And I think, Jeff, what was it 
you put for next week that I 

2522
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:33,920
still have to watch? 
The ever Halloween classic 

2523
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:37,160
Tremors. 
Great fucking movie. 

2524
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,200
You guys want to know what my 
second pick was? 

2525
02:04:40,200 --> 02:04:42,720
Because I never said it. 
It was event horizon. 

2526
02:04:43,880 --> 02:04:46,440
Oh dude, you know what you 
decide to do that one. 

2527
02:04:46,560 --> 02:04:48,240
I would like to be on that 
episode because I've always 

2528
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:49,760
looked for an excuse to watch 
that movie. 

2529
02:04:49,960 --> 02:04:52,160
Yeah, why do you need an excuse?
It's been on my list for. 

2530
02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:53,720
Why do you need I? 
Still haven't actually got 

2531
02:04:53,720 --> 02:04:54,800
around. 
To Why do you guys need an 

2532
02:04:54,800 --> 02:04:56,400
excuse? 
Where you're going, you won't 

2533
02:04:56,400 --> 02:04:58,080
need excuses. 
Exactly. 

2534
02:04:58,080 --> 02:05:01,160
I need an excuse, I have a hard 
time watching movies by myself. 

2535
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:05,280
It's an hour and a half long. 
I understand that I will watch a

2536
02:05:05,280 --> 02:05:09,040
10 hour YouTube video but it's 
hard for me to sit down and 

2537
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:11,320
watch a movie by myself. 
I don't know why, but because I 

2538
02:05:11,440 --> 02:05:14,640
had the show to do, that's why I
watched Alien and I enjoyed it. 

2539
02:05:14,640 --> 02:05:18,400
So like, yeah. 
It's Sam Neil being sexy. 

2540
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,080
Oh, and Dalton, can I get 
something on the record? 

2541
02:05:21,280 --> 02:05:25,040
Absolutely. 
So you know a while back we 

2542
02:05:25,040 --> 02:05:28,560
played Eldon Ring and I know if 
it's not said on the show it's 

2543
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:31,080
not official. 
OK so I've played through some 

2544
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:35,640
of the DLC and I would like to 
make an apology and I would like

2545
02:05:35,640 --> 02:05:39,560
to update my rating. 
It is a 9.9 out of 10. 

2546
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:42,440
OK, 9.9. 
Trying to get a reaction out of 

2547
02:05:42,440 --> 02:05:46,680
well, he's not bad. 
But no, jokes aside, I I would 

2548
02:05:46,680 --> 02:05:49,040
like to actually say I'll give 
it a 10 out of 10. 

2549
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:53,160
Get it on the record. 
Perfect scores all around for 

2550
02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:54,600
Eldon Ring now. 
So. 

2551
02:05:54,760 --> 02:05:57,240
It's a perfect circle. 
Whoever maintains that record, 

2552
02:05:57,240 --> 02:06:00,080
you know you can update. 
It it gets zero I never played 

2553
02:06:00,080 --> 02:06:01,360
it. 
With a one in front of it. 

2554
02:06:02,360 --> 02:06:05,600
Jeff, knowing you, I do not 
think you would like it. 

2555
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:09,120
No, I would be pissed off by 
became constantly beating my 

2556
02:06:09,120 --> 02:06:11,120
ass. 
Within 10 minutes. 

2557
02:06:12,680 --> 02:06:15,760
I don't know why I play Haiti I.
Actually think that if he could 

2558
02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:21,480
get past the fantasy aspect and 
the perceived difficulty curve 

2559
02:06:21,480 --> 02:06:23,880
of the Souls game, I think you 
would like it more than you 

2560
02:06:23,880 --> 02:06:26,120
expect, but I don't think that 
you would like the game. 

2561
02:06:26,480 --> 02:06:28,680
Yeah. 
That sort of fantasy doesn't 

2562
02:06:28,680 --> 02:06:31,880
bother me, it's just the fact 
that I know that game is just 

2563
02:06:31,880 --> 02:06:35,240
going to constantly kick my ass.
I don't know why I play Hades 

2564
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:37,440
because Hades kicks my ass all 
the time. 

2565
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:40,360
At least it's quick about it. 
You know, it's 30 minutes. 

2566
02:06:40,720 --> 02:06:43,360
Yeah, go back to beat. 
Gives you enough stuff at your 

2567
02:06:43,360 --> 02:06:46,720
disposal that you have options 
and you can make you can 

2568
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:49,640
trivialize the game pretty easy 
if you want to. 

2569
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:52,360
But there there's a thing I lack
Dane. 

2570
02:06:52,360 --> 02:06:56,120
That's a that's a little thing 
that most people call talent. 

2571
02:06:56,440 --> 02:07:01,640
That's why there's a wicked. 
On that note, if you would do us

2572
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:04,320
a wonderful solid and go and 
give us a five star review on 

2573
02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:05,960
iTunes and Spotify, it really 
helps us out. 

2574
02:07:05,960 --> 02:07:07,480
The algorithm helps people find 
the show. 

2575
02:07:07,480 --> 02:07:10,120
Share us with your friends. 
We're really bad about 

2576
02:07:10,760 --> 02:07:14,040
marketing, so word of mouth 
really helps us out. 

2577
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:16,360
So share us with everybody that 
you know that might like video 

2578
02:07:16,360 --> 02:07:19,560
games or just hearing people 
chat like they're a bunch of 

2579
02:07:19,560 --> 02:07:21,320
buddies. 
Now you want to check us out on 

2580
02:07:21,320 --> 02:07:22,720
the Discord speaking about being
a bunch of buddies. 

2581
02:07:22,720 --> 02:07:23,920
You want to come be buddies with
us? 

2582
02:07:24,120 --> 02:07:27,800
Come join the Discord at bit dot
LY slash TSMP Discord, all 

2583
02:07:27,800 --> 02:07:30,840
capital letters. 
You can find all four of us and 

2584
02:07:30,840 --> 02:07:33,200
all the other great, great 
people that are in there. 

2585
02:07:33,280 --> 02:07:36,760
We're always chatted up, having 
a good time, either sharing game

2586
02:07:36,760 --> 02:07:39,840
news or just memes or just 
talking about whatever. 

2587
02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:41,800
There's an anime channel that is
very popular. 

2588
02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:45,080
Please come and join. 
You can also vote on the 

2589
02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:47,800
different polls. 
They have not changed since the 

2590
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:49,840
last episode, so I'm not really 
going to update them, though 

2591
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:52,880
they will be changing soon after
Spooktober because we'll be 

2592
02:07:52,880 --> 02:07:57,280
rolling into Turnip Boy Commits 
Tax Evasion, and then after that

2593
02:07:57,280 --> 02:08:01,520
there will be a host pick reset.
So I'm going to roll some dice 

2594
02:08:01,520 --> 02:08:04,120
and see what it's going to be 
between me, Willie and Mikhailov

2595
02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:06,480
and we'll sort it out from 
there. 

2596
02:08:06,480 --> 02:08:08,440
I already know what my next pick
is going to be. 

2597
02:08:08,440 --> 02:08:11,840
Well, it's between two things, 
so we'll we'll see what it tells

2598
02:08:11,840 --> 02:08:14,360
you when I get there. 
How did you know? 

2599
02:08:15,000 --> 02:08:18,200
Speaking of rocks, if you want 
to roll a marble around on a 

2600
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:23,680
weird little like cyber grid 
field thing, I will be making 

2601
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:25,920
the game I made over the last 36
hours. 

2602
02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:27,840
I've just forgot what it's 
called. 

2603
02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:31,080
Rumbling rollers. 
I'll put that on our discord 

2604
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:33,480
sometime in the next day when I 
figure out how I want to host it

2605
02:08:33,480 --> 02:08:37,960
and play it and tell me that it 
sucks but you know, at least it 

2606
02:08:38,240 --> 02:08:41,560
feels good to get something out.
Oh yeah, absolutely dude. 

2607
02:08:41,960 --> 02:08:46,200
Oh yeah, LY, bit dot LY/TS and P
Discord, all capital letters. 

2608
02:08:47,000 --> 02:08:50,440
If you want to check on the 
website Bit dot LY slash the 

2609
02:08:50,440 --> 02:08:54,480
Steam Machine podcast kept up 
the date by 1 Mr. puzzles. 

2610
02:08:55,040 --> 02:08:56,800
You can go check that out as 
well. 

2611
02:08:56,800 --> 02:09:00,520
It's all the episodes and some 
of the the show notes and yadda 

2612
02:09:00,520 --> 02:09:03,800
yadda things like that. 
You know, check out the Patreon 

2613
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:07,360
which helps support the show and
really helps me at the moment 

2614
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:11,680
because I am looking for work. 
So that is patreon.com/the Steam

2615
02:09:11,680 --> 02:09:14,320
Machine podcast. 
Any, any little bit helps. 

2616
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:17,560
A dollar a month or more gives 
you the episodes early and AD 

2617
02:09:17,560 --> 02:09:20,720
free. 
Or you can donate $10 or more to

2618
02:09:20,720 --> 02:09:23,960
get early ad free and a little, 
I mean for $1.00 you get early 

2619
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:25,600
ad free and a little banter in 
the beginning. 

2620
02:09:25,600 --> 02:09:26,920
That's just for the Patreon 
section. 

2621
02:09:27,120 --> 02:09:29,880
Then at $10 or more you get all 
of that plus your name. 

2622
02:09:29,880 --> 02:09:31,960
Read on each and every episode 
like these wonderful people. 

2623
02:09:31,960 --> 02:09:33,800
Nazer Cogsworth, the 7th of 
Juniper, Jeff, the Original 

2624
02:09:33,800 --> 02:09:37,800
Expendable Well, Mr. Syllables, 
Old Jiffy Lube, ERISA Adam Shout

2625
02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:42,480
out to his upcoming revived 
revival and extinction team 

2626
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:44,640
Retrogue. 
Check him out on YouTube. 

2627
02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:48,080
Mr. Puzzles, Dane Himself, Chad 
the Mad Lad, no goddamn see in 

2628
02:09:48,080 --> 02:09:50,880
his last name, Shaffer and 
Flying Brian Doran Gray. 

2629
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:52,480
You're all very much 
appreciated. 

2630
02:09:53,040 --> 02:09:55,600
Shout out the AB spot, huh? 
What I didn't? 

2631
02:09:55,600 --> 02:09:57,200
Say anything you say, go fuck 
yourself. 

2632
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:00,160
I most certainly did not. 
Listen here, you can't. 

2633
02:10:00,160 --> 02:10:02,920
You're sitting there on your 
balls talking to me like that. 

2634
02:10:02,920 --> 02:10:05,360
I don't want to hear about it. 
Hey man, they're massive. 

2635
02:10:05,360 --> 02:10:06,600
There's nothing I can do about 
it. 

2636
02:10:06,760 --> 02:10:09,120
Speaking of Jess Balls, shout 
out to the ABS Pod, yet another 

2637
02:10:09,120 --> 02:10:11,840
BS podcast if you want to check 
it out. 

2638
02:10:11,840 --> 02:10:14,280
It is There are archives. 
We have not done an episode. 

2639
02:10:14,280 --> 02:10:18,840
I realized that Yabs pod ended 
fittingly on episode 69. 

2640
02:10:19,200 --> 02:10:21,160
Nice. 
I feel like you. 

2641
02:10:21,160 --> 02:10:23,400
Have to end it somewhere. 
It couldn't have ended any 

2642
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:26,120
better. 
And then shout out to the JRPG 

2643
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:28,040
Report. 
I literally just recorded and 

2644
02:10:28,040 --> 02:10:29,880
released an episode earlier 
today. 

2645
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:33,920
And then I have a Sunday special
plan if I'm trying to rope 

2646
02:10:33,920 --> 02:10:36,320
somebody in to do it with me, 
because it's going to be boring 

2647
02:10:36,320 --> 02:10:40,480
if it's just me talking about 
your top ten favorite JRPGS. 

2648
02:10:40,720 --> 02:10:42,920
It actually said top ten 
favorite games, but since it's 

2649
02:10:42,920 --> 02:10:45,760
for the JRPG Report, I truncated
it to the top ten favorite 

2650
02:10:45,760 --> 02:10:47,600
GRPGS. 
So I'm going to save the 

2651
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:50,040
favorite games for another 
Sunday special that I might do. 

2652
02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:52,760
But yeah, so check that out over
JRPG Report. 

2653
02:10:53,880 --> 02:10:56,680
And if you want to get a shirt, 
tsnpproductions.redness.com. 

2654
02:10:56,680 --> 02:10:58,280
They don't sell often, but they 
are there. 

2655
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:02,080
Check out my music over at Band 
Camp now, The Nightmare at 

2656
02:11:02,080 --> 02:11:05,160
bankhead.com. 
Check out my album The Longing 

2657
02:11:05,160 --> 02:11:09,280
by Tragedy Idol up on Spotify. 
And again, go check out Dane and

2658
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,000
Jeff's media. 
Dane and Jeff's media dump. 

2659
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:14,400
I've said meaty dumps so many 
times that that's just what was.

2660
02:11:14,400 --> 02:11:16,920
About to come out of my mouth. 
We might as well change our show

2661
02:11:16,920 --> 02:11:18,080
at this point. 
The meaty dumps. 

2662
02:11:19,040 --> 02:11:21,200
Dane and Jeff's media dump. 
It's a great show. 

2663
02:11:21,200 --> 02:11:22,840
I enjoy it even when I'm not on 
it. 

2664
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:25,160
It's one of my favorites to 
listen to. 

2665
02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:27,280
And yeah, leave us a five star 
review wherever you get your 

2666
02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:29,680
podcast, man. 
We will be back next week with 

2667
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:34,000
Mikhalov, old team Retro to talk
about a game that I have no idea

2668
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:36,800
about called Dungeon Munchies. 
And then the week after that, 

2669
02:11:36,800 --> 02:11:40,960
we'll be playing Higurashi when 
they cry and chapter one at 

2670
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:42,040
least, because that's the free 
one. 

2671
02:11:42,360 --> 02:11:45,080
And then I found like one or two
other little free games. 

2672
02:11:45,080 --> 02:11:46,440
So we'll we'll figure something 
out. 

2673
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:47,400
We'll get we'll get it out 
there. 

2674
02:11:47,400 --> 02:11:51,720
But yes, until next week, 
everybody take it easy.

