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This week on the Steam Machine 
Podcast, Dante's not even 

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supposed to be here today. 
He's supposed to be at his peak 

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where there's an Inferno tune 
music. 

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Hey everybody, welcome back to 
another episode of the Steam 

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Machine Podcast. 
My name is Dalton and joining me

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as always as 1/2 of the Circle. 
How's it going Dalton? 

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I'm Willie and I'm here joined 
with a special guest. 

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Michael loves taking this one 
off, but we have our guest host 

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just as always. 
And today our special friend is.

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It's me, Mr. Puzzles. 
Yay. 

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I'm here to talk about wieners 
and have everyone off the 

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tangents. 
Yeah, welcome back. 

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Hell yes, Sir. 
Welcome back. 

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This is normally where I ask you
boys what you been up to, but 

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I'm going to go first this week 
because I haven't had to do this

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in a long time, but I have some 
grievances that I need to air. 

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OK, so first and foremost, if 
you squat your truck, and by 

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that I mean if you sink the back
of it, so it looks like this and

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to you look, you both of you, 
you can see what I'm talking 

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about. 
There's something fundamentally 

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wrong with your brain. 
And I think you should get it 

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checked out because what the 
fuck is the point of that? 

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Like your truck is now at an 
angle where if you put anything 

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in the bed of your truck, it's 
going to roll out. 

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OK, So obviously you're not 
using a pickup truck for what 

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you should be using a pickup 
truck for two. 

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It aims your headlights directly
into my back in a window, into 

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my mirror. 
So like at that point, go fuck 

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yourself for that as well. 
And three, the reason that 

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people used to drop the front of
hot rods is because they had 

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huge fucking tires on the back 
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So you're telling me that you're
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then just put some smaller tires
on the back because you think 

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that looks cool? 
Get the fuck out of here. 

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I don't know if that's just a 
Florida thing. 

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I don't know if you'll deal with
that in North Carolina or in old

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Kentucks, but dude, it is 
prevalent around here and I do 

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not understand it. 
Maybe it's a poor man's dump 

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truck thing and they're trying 
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better like dump whatever load 
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putting back there. 
Here's the thing though, most of

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these trucks that I see are all 
pristine trucks that I don't 

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think they would put dump truck 
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Like they don't look like 
they're pickup trucks that are 

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used as pickup trucks. 
They just look like some country

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boy had some money and got him a
nice truck and squatted it 

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because he's like, oh the girls 
will sure love this. 

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Get the fuck out of here. 
He was just a little Dick 

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fucking A OK, so that's 
grievance #1 grievance #2 I'm on

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the way to work today and I had 
it is a long straight shot with 

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a couple curves right? 
Well, I'm on this particular 

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just straight away and there's a
dirt Rd. up ahead on the left 

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and I see a truck parked. 
You know how like people park at

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the end of a road, like waiting 
for their kid to get off school.

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So you'll just see someone 
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So there was a truck there and 
then there was this silver like 

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Jeep car at the stop sign 
waiting to to come out. 

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And I'm thinking to myself, oh, 
OK, they're going to wait till I

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come by because I'm coming at 65
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far away from you, right? 
No, they pull out. 

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So I have to slam on my brakes. 
But not only do they pull out, 

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they do not speed up. 
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So I then have to hit my brakes 
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So I'm up behind them, which 
luckily I have new tires and 

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they turned on their turn signal
and turned back on the road they

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just came from. 
And I am not, I am not a road 

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rage person, but I leaned out my
window with a middle finger 

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throwing all kinds of 
obscenities their way. 

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Dude, I was like what the So the
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think waiting for her kid just 
like had her hand on her 

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forehead like this. 
Like she was just like, Oh my 

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God. 
Like she thought she was about 

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to see a crash. 
She probably thinks I'm a 

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psychopath. 
The only saving grace that I 

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could give that situation that 
made me just not want to just 

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destroy humanity was I'm like, 
maybe it was a kid or learning 

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how to drive on their road and 
they made a stupid decision in 

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turning around. 
And I'm just going to stick with

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that because then I'm not going 
to be as mad about it. 

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So for situations like this, I 
keep a box of dollar store 

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hammers in the passenger seat of
my car. 

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Super cheap, really easy to keep
stocked, and you just kind of 

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like gently lob one at their 
windshield as you go by. 

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It really makes people kind of 
re evaluate their life decisions

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I find. 
I learned that move from Super 

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Mario Bros 1 from 1985. 
Most people don't like having 

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hammers thrown at them. 
I learned it from an episode of 

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Neurotically Yours. 
Man, that is wow, that is a. 

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Holy shit. 
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talking 90s earlier but man that
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That is new grounds flesh I. 
Was going to say, is that the 

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squirrel? 
What is it? 

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Smoke? 
That is a phony, phony squirrel.

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Holy. 
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that in a long time. 
I still remember the name of the

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episode in question. 
It's called Hammers and 

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Floodlights. 
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I I learned it from Ace Ventura 
when he goes into that concert 

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and Cannibal Corpses and they're
playing Hammer smashed face now.

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You got me in this old Flash 
cartoon mood and I'm gonna go 

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watch Gonans and Strife or 
something. 

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I, I immediately though, like I 
was listening to my, my Goth 

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playlist and I was immediately 
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So I just put on my metal 
playlist and found Behemoth and 

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just put on because Behemoth is 
like the heavy of heavy, you 

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know what I mean? 
I just cranked that shit all the

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way up and just listened to left
hand of God on the way. 

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And it was just, I felt better 
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got to work and OK, so I love my
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work with, right? 
But we got a new AGM who is 

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trying to make life real hard. 
OK, let me describe this person 

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to you. 
Think of Do you know the memes 

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that you will see that people of
a certain political viewing will

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post to say that all people on 
the left look like this right? 

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Picture that now squat them to 4
foot tall and blimp them out a 

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little bit and then give them 
like a little WAVY weird green 

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haircut. 
OK, And that's Gabby. 

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That's why, that's why all. 
Right, I was picturing blue but.

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Yeah, this is this is green. 
Right now we're talking full on 

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Oompa Loompa Makes me want to 
ask her how Willy Wonka actually

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is in real life now. 
But before her, a dude named 

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Kevin. 
I only met Kevin once and that 

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was when he brought in that big 
ball and fucking Space Coast 

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District award thing that we had
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That was the title belt thing on
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Like that thing was super cool. 
And Kevin was super cool when I 

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met him. 
He's like, yo, what's up man? 

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And he's like, sadly, this will 
be probably the only time I get 

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to see you because he was 
leaving and then going to a 

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different district and we got 
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So when I first got hired, they,
they said we're allowed to wear 

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the shirts that we are given and
then any of our affiliates. 

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So like right now I, I am 
wearing an Alien Labs shirt, 

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right? 
So it's new. 

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It's pretty sweet shirt. 
The logos got this like graffiti

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aesthetic. 
It looks cool. 

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Yeah, and it and it they, they 
designed this one to look like 

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those old little aliens that 
everyone did in the 90s. 

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Yeah, Grace. 
Yeah, the ones that you saw 

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everywhere. 
So that's what this this 

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particular shirt, I've got one 
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It was like the death metal 
cover or it's like Buffa met, 

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but the head is an alien head. 
It's just it's super cool. 

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I got AI got a bunch of them and
apparently this new lady is 

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wanting to change it to where we
cannot wear any shirts that 

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we've bought from the websites 
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She wants to make it where the 
girls are no longer allowed to 

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wear. 
Well, actually, none of us are 

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allowed to wear sweatpants, 
leggings or joggers. 

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So Matt that I work with, who is
literally known by all of our 

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customers for always wearing 
wacky pants, She now wants to 

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make him wear normal pants all 
the time. 

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She's wanting to basically take 
the entire vibe that we've got 

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going in that store and 
incorporate it the fuck up. 

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And she also apparently so Kevin
used to be in our chats and 

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things like that to to, you 
know, help out, you know, if 

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something goes wrong. 
She said she doesn't want to be 

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in any of our group chats. 
She doesn't want to be in any of

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the stores group chats. 
She has no time for that, yadda,

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yadda, yadda. 
All of a sudden, she doesn't. 

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Have time to do any actual 
management right? 

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Yes, she doesn't have time to do
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She's time to make degrees. 
And I overheard because I was 

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working when her and Katie, my 
manager, were having this 

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discussion in the office. 
And like, I was, you know, when 

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you're not supposed to be 
listening to something, but you 

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can't help yourself but like, 
put an ear there and you're just

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kind of like, OK, let me see 
what's going on in there. 

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They were having the discussion 
about the dress code. 

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And Katie said, you know, we've 
done a really good job at 

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cultivating A vibe here and a a 
culture where we were all 

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accepted of each other. 
You know, we as long as we 

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aren't have holy clothes and 
stuff like that. 

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We wear affiliate clothing and 
comfortable pants because we're 

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moving around all day. 
Our customers all love the vibe 

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and atmosphere we have in here. 
And I heard this woman say, 

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well, you have to understand 
that I wasn't here three years 

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ago or that wouldn't have 
happened in the 1st place. 

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And I just wanted to go in there
and pee on her. 

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Like I just, I just wanted to do
something like I just what the 

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fuck is wrong with you? 
Like kick her into the chocolate

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river and let her float away. 
So I don't think someone with 

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green hair has a leg to stand on
for professional attire, Yeah. 

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But that's also a little funky, 
isn't it? 

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Be like, come back. 
Come back into this drop when 

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you have a natural looking hair.
Come on. 

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Yeah. 
Oh, I told them. 

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I said if she corporatizes it 
where we have to wear like all 

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of us would have to, like, wear 
the same shirts or anything like

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that, I said I will have 
ridiculously colored hair. 

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I just want you to know that 
it's like I will rebel in any 

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way that I can against the 
corporation. 

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And I mean, I do think 
definitely unnatural hair 

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colors. 
The plants. 

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And I do think unnatural hair 
colors are cool as hell. 

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I am basically saying you got to
use her own shit against her. 

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Not that I'm saying that, you 
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Oh no. 
I. 

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Can you know what I'm saying? 
Like it's kind of like a pot 

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killing a kettle black. 
As he says, malicious 

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compliance. 
It's a it's a great phrase. 

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And I'm just, I'm just thinking 
to myself like, lady, we were 

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the top earnings store in our 
district last month and then 

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they switched our districts and 
now we have to deal with you. 

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If we were the top earners, that
means we were doing something 

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fucking right, which means you 
probably shouldn't come in and 

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fuck with it. 
Which is exactly what my dad 

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said almost verbatim. 
He was like, if y'all were the 

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top earning store, then why is 
she fucking with y'all? 

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And I'm like. 
I don't know. 

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And it's like, of all the stores
to come in and try to 

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corporatize, you want to 
corporatize the weed store. 

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We're already considered like a 
pharmacy. 

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That's weird enough. 
Makes no fucking sense. 

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And that's because of all the 
legalities, because it's medical

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and not recreational. 
And it's like, there's so much 

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bullshit with that. 
And it's just, it's just 

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baffling to me. 
And I needed to vent about it 

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because it's like, this job's 
been great and I really would 

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hate for this lady to come in 
and fucking ruin it. 

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Now you you vent on that man. 
You put your thumb on the carb 

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hole and put a few flicks. 
Yeah, because I told my mom the 

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other day, I said, you know, I 
said if she comes in and tries 

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to turn this where it's like I'm
going to feel like a suit. 

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I said then I'm going to go try 
to get that job at the bank that

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they offered me. 
I was like, because if I'm going

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to be a suit, I'm going to get 
fucking paid for being a suit. 

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Yeah, no shit. 
But yeah, anyways, grievance is 

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done. 
I'll talk about what I've been 

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playing to get back into the 
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ask you boys what you've been 
doing. 

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Thank you, listeners, and thank 
you boys for letting me air that

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out. 
So I have been messing. 

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Pleasure, as always of. 
Course I played some Devil May 

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Cry. 
I was playing some wrestling 

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empire, been dabbling in some 
clear obscure, getting deeper 

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into that, very, very intrigued 
by that game. 

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Can't wait to talk about it. 
But yesterday I'm sitting here, 

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it's about 7:00 PM, eight PM, 
something like that. 

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And I'm looking on my steam and 
I'm like, what do I want to 

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play? 
And I had pre-ordered WWE2K26 

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and early access was going to 
start on March 6th. 

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So I was really looking forward 
to today. 

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And then I see over there 
instead of coming soon, it now 

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says new to library. 
And I'm like what? 

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And I clicked on it and it said 
early access starting now and 

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I'm like what? 
So I immediately installed that 

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shit and I played it for 7.6 
hours. 

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That sounds about right. 
And so I tried a few things. 

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GM mode, fantastic. 
When you do GM mode, it puts the

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guys that you drafted your first
eight that you can see. 

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And I'm going to board Jeff here
for just a split second. 

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Apologies, buddy, but so I 
drafted Oh my God, Dane's here. 

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Yes. 
So you'll you'll both know who 

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all these people are. 
This is wonderful. 

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All right, so Blade and Kaz 
Taylor, those are two of my 

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created guys. 
I always make I drafted them. 

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But then I also have Drew 
McIntyre, Seth Rollins, Roman 

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Reigns, Randy Orton, Kevin Owens
and Penta. 

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Fucking strong dude. 
You. 

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Can only get so hard. 
And then that's not counting the

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rest of the guys that I got 
'cause I think I snagged Cody 

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too later in the draft and like 
a couple other people. 

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So like, I have a stacked 
roster, so I'm very happy for 

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that. 
I'm gonna enjoy that GM mode. 

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Universe mode is sweet. 
They added a little bit of 

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ragdoll physics this year, which
is cool. 

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So like I chucked the dude out 
of the ring and he hit another 

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dude and they both fell, which 
usually that didn't happen. 

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So that was cool. 
There's just like little things 

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they've added like that. 
So with the version I got, I got

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this VC, it's virtual currency 
and you can earn it by playing 

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through the different modes, 
which I do have access to the 

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island this year, which this is 
going to be the last thing I'll 

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talk about and then I'll get off
this. 

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But so I, I, I was used to last 
year's game and I was like, OK, 

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so the VC is used to open card 
packs in my faction. 

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So I went into my faction and I 
opened some card packs, got some

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wrestlers for that mode, all 
that. 

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I probably won't really play it 
that much. 

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And so I'm like, OK, whatever. 
Then I load into the island. 

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Now the island, you create your 
wrestler and then it's basically

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like a third person RPG where 
you roam around this hub area 

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and you get, you have to choose 
between one of three factions, 

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Cody's faction, CM Punk's 
faction, or Rhea Ripley's 

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faction. 
Who do you think I went with? 

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Mommy. 
Probably Mommy. 

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You know me well, so I went with
Rhea Ripley. 

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So hers is like the spooky 
faction, right? 

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And. 
Of course. 

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It's been really fucking fun, 
dude. 

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Like you just were running 
around as my as my I, I made 

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Blade in that mode too. 
And then you're just running 

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around and doing my thing and I 
go to level up his stats and it 

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uses VC. 
And I was like, oh, damn it. 

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So I just spent all of my VC in 
the other mode that I'm not 

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probably going to play that 
much. 

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And I could have used it, but 
I'm like, you know what, this 

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just means I'm starting off 
fresh. 

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So if I'd have just bought the 
game straight, this is how the 

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island would be. 
So I just don't get a head 

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start. 
I'm cool with that. 

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That's like not cheating, right?
Like all right, so that's that's

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fine. 
Played that for a while man. 

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It's just it's a lot of fun. 
I'm going to sync a lot of time 

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into this game this year and I'm
very happy with it. 

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Graphics are fucking great too, 
because no last Gen. versions 

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anymore. 
Beautiful. 

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I'll I'll be grabbing some 
screenshots to share. 

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I will miss seeing weird 
glitches from the PS4 versions 

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though. 
Oh my God dude, I could probably

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still fire up. 
Was it 2K20? 

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I think it was 2K20. 
It was one of them because they 

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skipped a year after that. 
Anyway, whichever one it was, I 

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could probably still fire that 
up and get you some pristine 

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glitches because that game was a
balls mess of glitch and just 

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terribleness. 
I'm. 

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Trying to remember the one it 
was. 

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It might have been 2K18, but the
one that had. 

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Like the referee whose entire 
head spun around as he gave the 

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thumbs up. 
Just a classic, classic moment. 

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Video game glitches. 
Wrestling games are really 

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sports games in general, just 
glitch different because of the 

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way they have to deal with so 
much collision. 

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Yeah, or dynamite. 
Yeah, that took me a moment. 

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God damn it. 
That's a pretty good wrestling 

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job. 
Pretty good wrestling job. 

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I do what icon All right, I'm 
done with wrestling Jeff. 

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You can you can tune back in and
that's pretty much what I've 

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been doing as I've been playing 
that. 

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And also, you know, I took a 
season character of Black Desert

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up to graduated this season and 
then been playing some project 

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Gore gone Willy, what you been 
up to, man? 

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Let's see, I think I mentioned 
in the last podcast and I went 

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and got to see my brother and 
the family with a new child, 

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right? 
Yes. 

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So what have I been doing since 
then? 

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Man, the weather's turned 
around. 

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I'm so used to being iced in and
today it was over 80° so that's 

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kind of loud. 
Like an heat wave. 

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On the on the subject of 
Yobroski, he sent us a picture 

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today of that sweet baby girl 
wearing the onesie with Steamy 

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on it, and it just made me all 
kinds of happy. 

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Yeah, but it's really funny that
he was like, I think the sizing 

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is wrong on that site because 
this said it was for six months 

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and she's a month old and she 
fits into it. 

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And I was like, yeah, that 
sounds about right. 

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She's a from from large family 
though. 

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Yeah, like they they were. 
Both of her parents were above 

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average size children so yeah. 
She was a cutie and she was 

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rocking it well, our youngest 
fan who has no idea who we are, 

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but I will take it. 
She knows who I am. 

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She knows who you are, but I 
mean like the show. 

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She has no idea who the show is.
It's a cute robot anyway. 

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And I believe. 
You. 

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Oh, you may already be. 
I know you mentioned something 

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about a controller, I just 
didn't want you to forget about 

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that. 
Or if that's. 

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Late, I'm actually going to talk
about that during the game. 

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OK, let's see. 
Anything fun I've been up to? 

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I might have been boring this 
last couple weeks again. 

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Me too, man. 
Seems pretty likely, yeah. 

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Trying to think if I have 
anything and I really don't 

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think I do. 
It's all good brother, man. 

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We'll go to Dane then. 
What you been up to? 

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OK so a couple things. 
I had my first Whataburger 2 

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days ago. 
How was that bro? 

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Welcome to the It's so good. 
So they've only started opening 

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up within driving distance of me
recently. 

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The two closest to me are both 
an hour away and me and my wife 

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been meaning to go to it for 
about a month now and we finally

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both remembered it at the same 
time when we were in Winston. 

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Which is one of the two that's 
closest. 

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So we went there and got a 
double, got the grilled onions, 

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got the grilled jalapenos, the 
creamy pepper sauce on there. 

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Oh yeah, you got the good one, 
Yeah. 

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That's a strawberry malt. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So right off the hills of that, 
Jeff, the son of a bitch hosts a

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Let's settle this picture on our
Discord. 

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What's the best burger? 
And I'm like son of a bitch 

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because up until this point, it 
was always Five Guys, hands 

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down, no contests, never a 
second thought. 

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And I had to actually weigh Five
Guys against this burger. 

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And Five Guys only barely edged 
it out. 

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And I really think it's the 
mountain of fries because 

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Whataburgers fries little 
underwhelming. 

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I'm not going to lie, I need to 
try the onion rings next time 

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I'm there. 
Maybe it'll change my mind. 

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But damn that was a good burger.
When I when I worked for 

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Coca-Cola dude that was a 
mainstay of I would go to 

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Whataburger get the double with 
no tomato, no onion just to keep

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it easier to eat while I was 
driving and no cheese because I 

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felt like when I would eat it 
with. 

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This is going to sound strange 
but when I would get cheese on 

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the burger by the time I was 
done with the burger I felt too 

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full. 
But if I got it without cheese I

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didn't feel that way and I'm not
sure why why cheese made the 

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difference. 
I mean, I know I'm lactose 

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intolerant, but like that 
usually doesn't do it that like 

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that. 
But anyway, their burgers are 

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always fresh, dude, when they're
fries or when they're hot. 

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When they're hot, dude, you dip 
it in the spicy. 

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It's called spicy. 
It's really just jalapeno 

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ketchup. 
It's delicious, man, Absolutely 

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delicious. 
I could do a little fast food 

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talk myself. 
I did try a couple of things I 

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hadn't before. 
We've had Zaxby's for forever, 

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but I've only ever really gotten
wings from there before. 

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But yesterday I decided to try 
some of the white meat stuff. 

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So I downloaded the app and you 
get the first time you use the 

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app, you get A at least when I 
did there was like A5 free 

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chicken fingers with any order 
of a certain size. 

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So I went and got one of the 
spicy chicken sandwiches and 

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then got the fingers with the 
nuclear, which is their hottest 

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sauce and brought it home. 
And I got to say I see why Nate 

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gets the white the the chicken 
tenders and the salads and the 

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sandwiches now. 
Because I did not expect that 

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white meat to be that juicy and 
tasty, and even the sauce felt 

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like it coated it more evenly 
and well than it does the wings.

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I have actually never had wings 
from Zaxby's. 

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I always get their chicken 
strips or their chicken tendies.

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Dude, they're so good. 
They really are. 

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They're always so juicy and 
delicious. 

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That yeah. 
And I got the sauced ones and I 

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was just so amazed about like 
the sauce coverage is real damn 

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good. 
I didn't know you could sauce 

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them. 
That's a whole new world opened 

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up to me now. 
Yeah. 

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You can get the finger sauced, 
it's pretty good. 

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I've always dipped them. 
I actually ordered them sauced. 

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But yeah, they do have some 
killer attendees. 

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It's just our Zaxby's are the 
people that work there are 

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fucking useless. 
My yeah, I imagine it's a very 

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franchise by franchise type of 
deal. 

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I almost got banned, not the 
last time we went there but the 

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time before. 
We were sitting in the drive 

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through and they were only lit. 
They were taken one order at a 

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time, letting them to the 
window, giving them food, then 

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letting them before they would 
take the next order. 

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And I'm sitting there and, you 
know, I'm trying to be helpful, 

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like, hey, you know, y'all kind 
of got a pretty big line forming

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up over here and they actually 
had the nerve to say to me, Sir,

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we only have one computer. 
That's see like when people were

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mad understaffed during COVID. 
I understand that being an 

445
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:04,240
issue, but one. 
Computer, 2023. 

446
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,960
Yeah. 
Like when I think of that 

447
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,000
tactic, I do remember, like, 
Popeyes using it during COVID. 

448
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,160
But again, that's because they 
deliberately wanted to keep the 

449
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,160
line long to discourage people 
from overwhelming the like two 

450
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,600
people they had on staff, you 
know? 

451
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,040
I said, but. 
The computer don't do the. 

452
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:26,040
Same enter and you put in the 
next order and then the girl got

453
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,200
really silent and then another 
guy who is speaking with the 

454
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,760
voice of I'm in Charge. 
But it's also the voices 

455
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:38,160
cracking with teenage 
testosterone that's still coming

456
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,920
through and hasn't done its job 
yet. 

457
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,160
Was it the Duke of Simpsons? 
No. 

458
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,840
Listen here. 
I'm in charge. 

459
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,480
Pretty. 
Much. 

460
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,840
Pretty much. 
He's like, Sir, we only have the

461
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,720
one computer. 
I'm like, yeah, but I know those

462
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,880
computers take more than one 
order at a time. 

463
00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,240
Hey, if you want a huge line and
you want to be really busy for 

464
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:59,800
the next couple hours, go ahead.
That's your prerogative. 

465
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:02,560
But I would kind of like to get 
out of here in the next half 

466
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,600
hour. 
And then they wait until they 

467
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,880
finish that order, just ignoring
me. 

468
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,960
And then after that one goes 
through, they're like, Sir, we 

469
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,480
have decided that we are going 
to enact our right to refuse 

470
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,560
service and we are not going to 
serve you. 

471
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,800
I won't share the words that I 
said to him. 

472
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:23,480
I won't share the thing that I 
threw into his drive through 

473
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,320
window. 
But I do keep a box of hammers 

474
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,360
in the car. 
Why? 

475
00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:32,480
Do we have a running hammer 
thing on this episode? 

476
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,480
This is a new thing. 
It's Hammer time. 

477
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,280
It is not a new thing in my 
life. 

478
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,200
I throw hammers at a lot of 
people. 

479
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:41,920
When? 
When? 

480
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,560
All you have is a box of 
hammers, everyone else looks 

481
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:51,200
like a box of nails I suppose. 
Nailed them so, but I've only 

482
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,360
been back there once since, and 
that was on one of the rare 

483
00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:57,080
occasions I was dashing here in 
town and I was picking up a 

484
00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,680
catering order for a local 
medical facility. 

485
00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,080
But yeah, they pissed me off 
that day, and as last time, I've

486
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:08,840
set foot in that one. 
It's wild to me how like those 

487
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,880
types of restaurants are so 
dependent on who's working in 

488
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,560
it, if they care about their 
job, right? 

489
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,840
Like the the Burger King in 
Middleburg Fire, you go in 

490
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,200
there, your burgers are always 
fresh, your fries are always 

491
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,640
hot. 
It's delicious. 

492
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,360
The Burger King in Palatka where
I work, I haven't been there in 

493
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:27,320
a while, but I remember it was 
pretty good. 

494
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,560
Like it wasn't the best Burger 
King I've been to, but it was 

495
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,120
serviceable, right? 
Then there was this time me and 

496
00:24:32,120 --> 00:24:33,320
my mom went into his Burger 
King. 

497
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:38,240
It was in Gainesville and we, 
how do I say this? 

498
00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,920
The side of town we were on did 
not. 

499
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,320
We were in the hood. 
Let me just put it down. 

500
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,840
We were just fucking. 
We were in the hood and we went 

501
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:47,560
into this Burger King and me and
my mom went in there and there 

502
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,560
was a couple in front of us that
ordered and they were talking 

503
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:52,280
with the girl and everybody was 
having a great time. 

504
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,240
And then they went on and did 
their thing and me and mom went 

505
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,560
up and the girl kind of like 
glanced up at us and then turned

506
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,320
around and went and started 
working on something else. 

507
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760
So we stood there and we stood 
there and we stood there and 

508
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,000
then we left and not one person 
ever like came up to take her 

509
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,720
order, turned around just like 
to greet us or anything. 

510
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,760
And it was the first time ever 
that I just straight up just 

511
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,600
like, all right, well, fuck me 
then, like out loud and then 

512
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:21,000
just like I never say anything 
like, but I was just like baffle

513
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,000
my not one mom, not even like, 
we'll be with you in a minute. 

514
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,360
Nothing. 
I was like, all right, so we. 

515
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,160
Not a hey, not a Hold on, not a 
fuck yourself. 

516
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,080
Yeah, not not an even good not 
even a go fuck yourself. 

517
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,160
Like that had been fine. 
Like no, we're not going to 

518
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:35,080
serve you. 
I'll get out the fuck out of 

519
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,040
here. 
I'd have been like what? 

520
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,400
OK, but at least there'd have 
been a reason or at least like a

521
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,720
a reason to leave. 
Like it's just nothing. 

522
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,600
So I I don't remember. 
We ended up going somewhere else

523
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,240
that day and then I think it was
like Wendy's or something like 

524
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,960
that. 
Nate that, but it's just it's 

525
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,120
just wild that like it's just 
vastly different in these 

526
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:53,560
different areas, but it's the 
same fucking place. 

527
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,440
I don't know. 
People should care more about 

528
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,440
their jobs, but also those 
places should pay them more to 

529
00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,440
care more. 
So. 

530
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:03,120
That's definitely true. 
Also, I tried the hot honey 

531
00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,040
snack wrap at McDonald's and 
it's pretty good. 

532
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:07,760
I actually think that the hot 
honey goes pretty well through 

533
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,880
chicken, which is maybe not the 
greatest chicken. 

534
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,320
I can see that they're really 
trying to push their weird MC 

535
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:16,960
tenders or whatever in places 
that they probably shouldn't be,

536
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,760
but the snack wrap is OK and I 
think that it's the hot honey 

537
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:26,160
was really no worse and no 
better than the spicy, maybe a 

538
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,920
little bit better. 
Man, I got a chicken sandwich 

539
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:30,680
from McDonald's because those 
are McDonald's right across the 

540
00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,440
street from my work. 
So I eat there a lot 

541
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,920
unfortunately and. 
That's life. 

542
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,040
I got a chicken sandwich from 
there the other day and I got 2 

543
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:41,200
bites into it and the third bite
made me gag and I threw it away.

544
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:46,200
So have you ever had chicken 
that when you bite into it, you 

545
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,680
know, good chicken, your teeth 
just cut right through it like. 

546
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,400
I think I know where you're 
going with this. 

547
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,320
There's a certain texture that's
like tumorish. 

548
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,600
Yes. 
And it was like, the whole thing

549
00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,440
was like chewy, like. 
Woody. 

550
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:01,880
Woody tasting. 
Yeah. 

551
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,200
Yep. 
And I was like. 

552
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,840
That moment where you're like, 
are they 3D printing meat? 

553
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:11,280
Yeah, it made me be like this. 
I don't like this and I just was

554
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,440
thinking about it too much and 
when I took that third bite and 

555
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,160
my teeth, I felt like a little 
as I cut bit through it, I 

556
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,120
gagged and was like, Oh well, I 
just do it away and ate my fries

557
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,880
and my fries were cold. 
And I was very, very 

558
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,840
disappointed in the whole 
experience because usually that 

559
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,840
place that make is fresh, like 
burn my fingers hot on the fries

560
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,280
and the burgers. 
So I don't know what was going 

561
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,440
on there that day. 
McDonald's fries, too, are one 

562
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:35,920
of the things that is like, yes,
when they're fresh out the oven,

563
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:37,720
fresh out the fryer. 
I mean, they're they're good, 

564
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,240
but they suffer so much from 
even just like the drive home. 

565
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,840
Yeah, you got to eat your fries 
on the ride. 

566
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,920
Yeah. 
I would rather have fries that 

567
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,520
are like less than 3 minutes old
than have ketchup on the fries. 

568
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,680
I've actually heard that there 
are monsters out there who won't

569
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,760
eat their McDonald's fries until
they're cold. 

570
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,360
Wow, those people. 
I have some questions about 

571
00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:00,880
them. 
That's cool, man. 

572
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,680
There are people that paid money
for Limp Bizkit albums like It 

573
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:11,480
Takes All Kinds. 
But the main host on Fact Fiend 

574
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,640
don't know if you'll have ever 
watched that YouTube channel. 

575
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,560
He's one of them. 
He will buy McDonald's, go home 

576
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,720
and let it sit on the counter 
for an hour, sometimes even put 

577
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,160
it in the fridge before he eats 
it. 

578
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,440
I I don't know who hurt him. 
I just don't like it. 

579
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,680
I don't like it that. 
Bothers me deeply. 

580
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,960
It bothers me genetically and I 
can't explain why. 

581
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,040
Like I feel like somewhere deep 
down, like there's something 

582
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,080
about the human experience that 
rejects this. 

583
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,280
And it makes me wonder what 
alien planet you came from And. 

584
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:48,480
I don't know if I've ever had 
any potato dish. 

585
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,440
Well no. 
I've had some mashed potatoes 

586
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,120
that were OK cold but like fried
potatoes like cold. 

587
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,920
I I can't think of any fried 
potato dish that's better cold. 

588
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,000
Not better cold, but I've had 
some potato tots that weren't 

589
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,440
worse when they cooled off 
because they were not high 

590
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:05,040
ceiling in the 1st place. 
Like as long as they maintained 

591
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,240
their crunch, they're OK. 
That's the thing, yeah. 

592
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,280
It's when they lose the crunch 
and they kind of just get SOG 

593
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,720
and then the potatoes, like dry 
your mouth out because it's, I 

594
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,080
don't know how to explain it. 
Yeah. 

595
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,200
Well, that's the first thing. 
French fries too. 

596
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:19,080
Okay, that's actually really 
loud. 

597
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,800
Potato chips. 
Potato chips are thoroughly 

598
00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,440
fried. 
Yeah, they're their own thing. 

599
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,040
You know damn well they don't 
count, Dane. 

600
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:28,720
I think it was a good point 
actually. 

601
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,800
Point of order potato product 
all right problems. 

602
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,400
That's not legally a potato 
chip. 

603
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:39,440
Potato adjacent chip esque 
product Crisp. 

604
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,680
They're tasty. 
They're like 49% cornstarch, 

605
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:46,120
yeah. 
Man, well that that 51% potato 

606
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,280
chunks that were leftover from 
the Lays are pretty fucking 

607
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,080
good. 
You get up to 51% corn and you 

608
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,880
can start being bourbon whiskey.
So come on. 

609
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,960
Oh. 
Pringles just slightly changes 

610
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,600
their formula, starts coming out
with booze. 

611
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,360
Fantastic. 
But it's still in the tennis 

612
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:08,200
ball, too. 
It's just called Old Pringle, 

613
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,040
Old O Pringle. 
And there's just a straw port in

614
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,440
the top of it because you just 
at that point, you know where 

615
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,440
you're at in life like. 
Finally, a Pringles product that

616
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,800
I don't have to get my daughter 
to grab the stuff at the bottom 

617
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,880
of the can for me anymore. 
Oh man, any straw you stick in 

618
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:31,640
that becomes a silly straw. 
It was the fucking bitch head 

619
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,400
burger. 
He's like, yes, a silly straw 

620
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:35,640
joke. 
And he's like, he sees a 

621
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,920
straight straw. 
He's like, man, that straw is 

622
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,680
serious. 
Oh, I thought you were going to 

623
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,320
do the because we talked about 
Pringles. 

624
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,560
I think you were going to be 
like Pringles was trying to make

625
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:46,760
potatoes balls. 
But when the day came to the 

626
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,040
delivery was so seraph, they got
potatoes and they're like fuck 

627
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,880
it, cut them up. 
Fuck it, cut them up. 

628
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:58,200
Pringles is a laid back company.
And then you got the Bo Burnham 

629
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,960
bit, the Kanye rant. 
Hands too big to fit inside of a

630
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,520
Pringles can. 
If you feel me, put your hands 

631
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,280
up. 
If you feel me, put your hands 

632
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,720
up. 
Look at all these people whose 

633
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,320
hands are too big to fit inside 
a Pringle care. 

634
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,840
It is it is an interesting like 
I know it like differentiates 

635
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,080
them and that what that's what 
makes Pringles Pringles. 

636
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,200
If they started coming out in 
bags, people would be like, what

637
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,480
the fuck? 
But they could widen it a 

638
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,080
little. 
I mean, I I guess they'd have to

639
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,600
make their chips bigger and 
they're not going to do that 

640
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,800
'cause that's cut into profit. 
But half the fucking. 

641
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,920
Thing is, when Leigh's stacks 
came out, their cans were wider 

642
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,600
but they still had the tiny ass 
hole at the top. 

643
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:41,160
Yeah, but Leigh's stacks cans 
are really weird. 

644
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,480
It's like you were, you were 
close enough to feel the heat 

645
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,640
and you tripped on the just at 
the 20 yard line just you were 

646
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,280
almost there. 
And it's fucked up too, because 

647
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,400
it's Lays. 
You're the brand name in potato 

648
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,720
chips and yet you came off as 
the generic here. 

649
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,320
Yeah, yeah, Especially yeah, 
Lays is like one of those things

650
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:03,800
where it's like, let me get a 
Coke. 

651
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,080
And in certain parts of the 
country, you could hand them 

652
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:08,520
whatever soda you want and they 
will be happy with it because 

653
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
any soda is a Coke where it's 
like, let me get some of them 

654
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,600
Lays chips. 
And you could hand him Boots and

655
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,960
he wouldn't know the fucking 
difference. 

656
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,240
You know, he's just looking for 
some potato chips, Band-Aid, 

657
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,880
Kleenex, all those. 
The word is generonim. 

658
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:23,480
Is that really what it's called?
Generonim. 

659
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,560
Yes, you can look it up. 
Words like Kleenex, Band-Aid, 

660
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,600
Xerox. 
Yeah, Hoover. 

661
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,080
In the UK they call any vacuum 
cleaner a Hoover. 

662
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Got a new Hoover. 
I hear that on Coltaholic every.

663
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Now and then they say the Hoover
something up instead of 

664
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,640
vacuuming. 
Makes you think of this and then

665
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,680
we can get into the game talk. 
But I saw this little video the 

666
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,440
other day where was a, there's 
this Aussie that I follow on 

667
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,520
Facebook and that Aussie's 
always holding a little toy 

668
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,960
sword. 
And the girl comes walking up to

669
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,600
it because it's standing there 
looking at something with a 

670
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,520
sword in its mouth. 
And she's like, what's got you 

671
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,640
ready for battle? 
And then she looks and it's her 

672
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,000
husband with the vacuum and she 
goes, ah, dark Lord vacuum. 

673
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,800
And that just made me laugh so 
hard. 

674
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,520
So I'm going to start saying 
that to Lily. 

675
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,120
It's like, oh Dark Lord vacuum 
beware. 

676
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,600
The power of vacuum. 
Vacuum Mega Maid's gone from 

677
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:18,080
suck to blow. 
Fuck, even in the future nothing

678
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,600
works. 
Oh man, I'm just thinking about 

679
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,400
the suck O matic from Rocco's 
Modern Life with the neutering 

680
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,160
function. 
Awesome. 

681
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,480
Very good, yeah. 
Fucking. 

682
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,640
Dog minus tennis balls. 
I don't get this. 

683
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,560
They need your order and you're 
thinking about old Rocco's and 

684
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,440
you're like, oh, I remember why 
Heifer felt that way about the 

685
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,560
milking machine now. 
Because I saw the movie far too 

686
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,680
young. 
You want to know a joke that I 

687
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,800
didn't get the first time I saw 
that has to do with vacuums. 

688
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,480
Scary movie When Dewey comes 
walking out of the room with the

689
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,520
vacuum and he goes and he's got 
fucking cock hanging like it's 

690
00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,920
been stretched by a vacuum. 
And he's like, I'm cleaning my 

691
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,560
room. 
And I'm like, nowadays I'm like 

692
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,720
gross. 
But as a kid, I was just like, 

693
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,680
that's weird. 
I was old enough to know exactly

694
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:11,600
what was going on with that one.
Not not from experience. 

695
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,600
I always put my balls in the 
vacuum cleaner. 

696
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:20,159
But you know, see, I listeners, 
I told you I would bring lots of

697
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:23,320
penis talk and tangents. 
It's true he didn't. 

698
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,679
He's he's delivering. 
I'm like the milkman, I always 

699
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,080
thought. 
Oh, boys. 

700
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,199
He's like the milkman. 
He's fucking my wife. 

701
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,199
No, just mine. 
Got bad news? 

702
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,960
For you, sunshine. 
It's like I sent Willie this 

703
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:42,800
picture where someone asked Zack
Wylde about opening for himself 

704
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,080
on this next tour. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

705
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,159
Because he's playing Zack 
Sabbath, which is his Aussie 

706
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:50,120
tribute, and then closing out 
his Black Label Society. 

707
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:53,199
And he was like, yeah, I'm 
opening up for that Black Label 

708
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:56,120
band, you know, And I think, I 
think I'm going to fuck his wife

709
00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,800
over on. 
It's just hilarious to me. 

710
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,440
It reminded me of a similar 
running joke where people are 

711
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:10,400
accusing the lead actor from 
Iron Lung of having sex with the

712
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,440
wives of both the writer and 
director of the movie. 

713
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,240
That's a son of A. 
Bitch. 

714
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,760
All of which are, of course, 
Markiplier. 

715
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,200
Yeah. 
Who I still? 

716
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,920
Need to watch that one. 
Yeah, I want to see. 

717
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:22,600
That. 
Yeah, me too. 

718
00:35:24,240 --> 00:35:28,200
I'm a big fan of David 
Szymanski, so like, I've got to 

719
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,320
see this movie. 
I'm sad I missed the theatrical 

720
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,720
run, but like, it's going to be 
a good stream. 

721
00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:35,920
I'm guaranteeing it. 
I think it was David Szymanski's

722
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:38,880
tweet that I saw where it was 
saying that Iron Lung was going 

723
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,320
to make $50 million. 
I think he retweeted it and just

724
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,360
said what the fuck? 
Yeah. 

725
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,720
Yeah, it was just what the fuck.
Without even without a without 

726
00:35:48,720 --> 00:35:50,000
punctuation. 
Yeah, nothing. 

727
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,440
Just all lower case. 
What the fuck? 

728
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,880
At this point hasn't it made 
more than that shitty live 

729
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,240
action Snow White movie? 
I would not be surprised. 

730
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,640
I kind of forgot that existed. 
I think Disney's hoping for 

731
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,200
that. 
You know anytime, anytime 

732
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,680
something like that comes out in
bombs for Disney I feel like 

733
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,640
they open up the vault and re 
release a classic and everyone 

734
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,440
just was like super happy about 
that and everyone just forgets 

735
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,080
about the shitty one. 
They're going to make Cruella 

736
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,600
too, and it's going to fall in 
so bad they have to release Song

737
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,760
of the South. 
Oh my God, Willie, you stole my 

738
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,160
fucking joke. 
I love you. 

739
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:24,240
Oh my. 
God. 

740
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,360
I was literally going to say, I 
mean, at this point they might 

741
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,000
as they're going to do Song of 
the South. 

742
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,000
Some people talk about that. 
Fucking hey. 

743
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,360
Oh, stupid ass minds, they say. 
Great minds think alike, but so 

744
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,200
do ours. 
Isn't it? 

745
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,160
I'm still upset that my daughter
on her Disney account can't 

746
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,680
watch Jungle Book. 
But the original Jungle Book? 

747
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,240
Oh really? 
Because it sets a child? 

748
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:53,120
Because it has negative 
stereotypes over King Louie? 

749
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,800
They've age restricted. 
Now over. 

750
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,680
King Louie, I can see why, but 
man, I feel like this is the 

751
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,000
this is the case where you want 
to do the disclaimer thing. 

752
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,000
I was. 
Going to say why don't they 

753
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,320
handle it like a me TV Tunes 
does where. 

754
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,720
Yeah, exactly comes on. 
It's like this cartoon is a 

755
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,640
product of its time and does not
reflect. 

756
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,520
Yeah, current view, you know, 
all that kind of stuff. 

757
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:15,080
And that would be an easy way 
because then your kid could be 

758
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,600
like, what does that mean? 
And then you guys can have a 

759
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,000
productive conversation where 
you talk about how like media 

760
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,320
has changed over the years, but 
I guess a lot of parents don't 

761
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:23,640
want to have that conversation 
or something. 

762
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,800
I don't know. 
But yeah, that's that's. 

763
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,600
Awesome, you're assuming parents
want to do parenting. 

764
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,480
Now correct me if I'm wrong. 
Song of the South. 

765
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,320
That's where Zippy Doo Doo dog 
came from, right? 

766
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,200
It is, they actually only 
recently rebranded Splash 

767
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,040
Mountain like in the last like 3
years to where it no longer is 

768
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,920
based on that song. 
That's wild. 

769
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,320
Yes, I, I. 
Think even with Princess and the

770
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,520
frog is the new theme, which 
makes sense to me. 

771
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,160
Like if you're gonna, you know, 
go completely a different 

772
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,680
direction, that is definitely a 
good way to go, but. 

773
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,600
And man. 
It is weird that it stayed there

774
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,280
that long when it was kind of 
like the unspeakable Disney 

775
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,520
movie, you know? 
Right. 

776
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,840
But at the same time, I 
understand when Disney does 

777
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,880
updates and stuff because, 
because at a certain point kids,

778
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,280
like when they changed that kids
probably would remember Princess

779
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,640
and the Frog more than they 
would even know what Song of the

780
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,160
South is now. 
Does that make sense? 

781
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,280
It's like I understand why they 
update things. 

782
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,440
It's like I think 20,000 Leagues
Under the Sea is now something 

783
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,800
else. 
I think they made a Pirates of 

784
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,080
the Caribbean or something like 
that. 

785
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:23,800
They already had a Pirates of 
the Caribbean, right? 

786
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,280
It was called Pirates of the 
Caribbean. 

787
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,360
Yeah, the movie was based on the
rad. 

788
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,320
It might have been that they 
made 20,000 leagues to Finding 

789
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,520
Nemo or something, I don't know.
It was something along those 

790
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,440
lines where they changed it to 
another movie to update it. 

791
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,040
But but yeah, anyway, Speaking 
of Disney, we played a really 

792
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,200
violent game with demons and 
devils and killing people. 

793
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,400
Just like Maleficent. 
Dude, you're Segway in the way a

794
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:53,080
Segway. 
We played a game on the short 

795
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,240
poll and that is one Devil May 
Cry and we brought in Dane 

796
00:38:57,240 --> 00:39:02,480
because he is our resident DMC 
fan slash expert and here. 

797
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,360
Everyone voted for this game so 
I would not post pictures of my 

798
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,240
balls on the discord. 
This is true. 

799
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,040
He's not lying. 
Everyone. 

800
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,360
He really? 
Did Dane runs very efficient 

801
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,960
poll campaigns I've noticed. 
He does. 

802
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,800
He does. 
Dane threatens nudity. 

803
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,160
Dane gets the game he wants to 
play. 

804
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,840
But in this case, DMC stands for
Dane May Co host. 

805
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:28,000
Nas. 
Love it so Devil May Cry, the 

806
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,000
obligatory Wicca booty of 
bullshit, is a 2001 action 

807
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,800
adventure video game developed 
and published by Captain. 

808
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Oh boy howdy, is it ever in 
2001. 

809
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,080
Yeah, for sure. 
Developed for the PlayStation 

810
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:45,120
Two set on a remote island, the 
story centers on Dante, a Demon 

811
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,720
Hunter who uses his business to 
carry out a lifelong vendetta 

812
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:52,040
against all demons. 
He meets a woman named Trish, 

813
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:55,520
who takes him on a journey to 
defeat the demon Lord Mundus, 

814
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,240
who is responsible for the 
deaths of Dante's brother and 

815
00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:02,080
mother. 
And just a quick tidbit, Devil 

816
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:06,240
May Cry was conceived by Capcom 
developers as a possible concept

817
00:40:06,240 --> 00:40:11,680
for Resident Evil 4. 
So that explains the camera if 

818
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,080
you've ever played this game 
before, because this game is 

819
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,520
hella early Resident Evil camera
coded for sure. 

820
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:19,920
Yeah. 
Now let's do, let's do first 

821
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,040
thoughts. 
Let's start with let's start 

822
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:24,600
with Dane, because when did you 
first play this and what made 

823
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,160
you love it so much, my good 
man. 

824
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,080
OK, the there's a slightly 
lengthy story to this. 

825
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,440
You sure you won't? 
Absolutely fill that time slot 

826
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:35,280
so. 
If if we didn't like things that

827
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,480
were slightly lengthy, we 
wouldn't have Dalton on. 

828
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,160
I don't know what the fuck you 
got me around for. 

829
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,040
It's to. 
Make our hair look better. 

830
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,200
All right, that's fair. 
I am bald. 

831
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:56,520
All the hair migrated straight 
to my ass crack anyway, so I'm 

832
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,320
sure I brought him up here on 
this podcast and if you listen 

833
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,040
to media dump, I know you've 
heard me talk about this 

834
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:06,720
particular man from Dane lore. 
But my friend Big Dick Brandon 

835
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,480
was the first in our friend 
group to get a PlayStation 2. 

836
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:15,960
Nice. 
About six months ahead of me and

837
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:20,960
one weekend spent the night over
at his house and he had went to 

838
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,680
our local video place and rented
Devil May Cry. 

839
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,120
Now, this is the first time I've
actually got to go over to his 

840
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:31,720
house and sit down and see the 
PS2 in action and the majesty of

841
00:41:31,720 --> 00:41:34,520
just the opening menu. 
Yeah, I know. 

842
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,000
You hear those noises, the boom 
and then the little twinkle 

843
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,880
sounds. 
And you see these weird, the, 

844
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,600
the crystal clock that kind of 
moved in time and it wasn't 

845
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,560
obvious. 
All this magic. 

846
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,440
And I'm like, I've got to get my
hand on this shit. 

847
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,440
And then he loads up Devil May 
Cry and, you know, I'm still 

848
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,440
playing shit like Crash 
Bandicoot, the original Metal 

849
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,960
Gear Solid. 
And then I get to see this game,

850
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,480
which. 
Yeah, 25 years later, you look 

851
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,080
at this game, but it showed his 
age. 

852
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,840
But this game was fucking 
amazing. 

853
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:08,240
I've never seen anything like 
it. 

854
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,080
We played that weekend. 
He went to the game start to 

855
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,120
finish and I was just happy 
riding shotgun. 

856
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,160
And after he finished this game,
I made a deal with him. 

857
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,640
Like let me borrow your PS2 for 
one day. 

858
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,280
I will pay your late fees. 
So he he sends me home because 

859
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,320
he he was, you know, we were 
tight. 

860
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,800
He trusted me with it. 
He loaned me his PS2. 

861
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,760
I went home that Saturday, took 
his rental with me and I played 

862
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,640
through Devil May Cry start to 
finish and one day I made 

863
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,520
mistakes. 
Now I was playing his save foul 

864
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,320
because convenience. 
So I did start the game with leg

865
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,560
up. 
I had moves, I had the in game 

866
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:51,200
weapons, but I also played on 
hard mode, which kind of sent me

867
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,200
down a path. 
Yeah, this kind of sent me down 

868
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,320
a path. 
If you remember when we played 

869
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,600
Metal Gear Rising, I just 
started on hard mode because 

870
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,040
that's how to do these games 
now. 

871
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:06,280
But oh, and also, and we'll get 
into this mechanics later, I 

872
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,560
also played into the entire game
using just the Sparta, so I 

873
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,720
never had Devil Trigger. 
Oh wow. 

874
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,720
OK. 
That's an interesting challenge,

875
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:16,560
man. 
I got to know how you handled 

876
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,040
some of those bosses then. 
I got there, I got there. 

877
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,440
But yeah, that was my first 
experience. 

878
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,640
And after doing that, returning 
his game, getting funny looks at

879
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,440
the video store because they're 
like, you're not big Dick 

880
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:31,000
Brandon. 
I'm like, oh, you didn't notice.

881
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:39,720
I'm a representative. 
But paid his late fees, took his

882
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:44,680
system back and I told my mom, 
look, I know that eventually you

883
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,880
will get me APS 2. 
I want that game. 

884
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,440
I wanted that. 
And when that Christmas, because

885
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,800
we still celebrated Christmas 
back then, she bought us PS2 in 

886
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,480
our first three games. 
It was an armor and core game, 

887
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,280
Silent Hill two and Devil May 
Cry. 

888
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:03,000
Holy shit, nice lineup. 
I have strong love for this 

889
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:06,160
series ever since. 
Oh yeah, Hell yeah, Willie, what

890
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:07,880
about you, man? 
When you, when you fired this up

891
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,320
all these years later? 
No, we we played the HD 

892
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,840
collection too, so that was 
remastered a bit visually. 

893
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,000
I don't think it was very 
remastered. 

894
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,920
It felt more like an upscale 
than anything else, honestly. 

895
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:24,480
Yeah, I would agree with that. 
I would say I do have some prior

896
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,520
experience, which is that this 
was a one time rental for me as 

897
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:31,200
a kid, and I remember getting up
about as far as beating the 

898
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,920
spider boss the first time you 
fight it. 

899
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,480
The spider scorpion thing, the 
phantom, that's what it's 

900
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,280
called. 
Yeah. 

901
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,160
So I had a lot of memories of 
it. 

902
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,600
So when I was playing this game,
one of my first impressions was 

903
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,000
just like, oh, Trish stabbed 
into the sword, now he's going 

904
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,720
to pull himself through it. 
No, that happens in level 2. 

905
00:44:47,720 --> 00:44:52,880
He gets stabbed a lot but I 
would say my first impression 

906
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,360
when you actually get to the 
castle was just holy shit this 

907
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:00,160
is a Capcom game from 2001. 
Because these stupid ass camera 

908
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,720
angles are exactly Resident Evil
coded. 

909
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,720
Yeah, yeah, that definitely took
some getting used to it. 

910
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,040
It was making me nauseous the 
first time I played it. 

911
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:11,880
And I think I just, it took me 
some just sitting down with it 

912
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,600
and playing some to get my eyes 
used to the way that it was 

913
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,040
doing. 
And then I was fine after that. 

914
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:20,000
I also noticed that I felt it 
felt really unresponsive to me 

915
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,880
in a lot of ways, but we'll get 
around to why that was later on.

916
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:28,680
So I fired this up and my real 
Devil May cry experience I 

917
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,120
believe is with Devil May Cry 2 
in my memories because I didn't 

918
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,240
have any. 
Two, there's a, there's a 2. 

919
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:39,240
Yeah, I I believe it's the one 
that you and lots of other 

920
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:40,680
people like to pretend doesn't 
exist. 

921
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,760
I I I. 
It's what I mean. 

922
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:48,360
I count 1345678910I I I'm not 
sure. 

923
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,200
Well, it's. 
Well, between that and Capcom 

924
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,360
and Valve not being able to 
count to three, we have a really

925
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,760
good ass number base going on in
this bitch, yeah. 

926
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,680
That's right, I forgot you said 
that you you played this on the 

927
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:02,560
PlayStation? 
What's it called? 

928
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:05,760
Sequel. 
The PlayStation sequel. 

929
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,440
It was called the PS Double. 
The P double S. 

930
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,040
The post postscript. 
I didn't remember Devil May 

931
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:23,240
Cry's two Devil May Cry 2's 
camera being quite as Resident 

932
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:28,080
Evil coded as this one was, but 
yeah, I, I alluded into this man

933
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,680
and immediately I was just like,
this games just it's just 

934
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,480
stylish like that's that's just 
a word for it, you know what I 

935
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,400
mean? 
It's like it comes on with a Now

936
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,560
what's the? 
Cameras are both cinematic as 

937
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,720
hell and also really 
inconvenient for a lot of the 

938
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,680
combat early on. 
Yeah. 

939
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,560
What's the name of his? 
His business isn't it, Devil? 

940
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:48,520
It starts. 
Off as devil may cry. 

941
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,480
OK, so I OK, so I wasn't crazy 
that it was different at the end

942
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,080
then? 
Yeah, they changed the name of 

943
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:59,720
the business to reference his 
line about Devil's never crying,

944
00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,160
and then the shop is never 
called Devil. 

945
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,480
Devil's Never Cry again. 
After the end of that it it 

946
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:09,080
immediately goes right back to 
Devil May. 

947
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,560
Okay, well, so yeah, I just, I 
loved that scene where it just 

948
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:17,000
like pulls up, he answers the 
phone like Devil May Cry and 

949
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,200
he's just like, this seems like 
a normal business dude. 

950
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,560
And then this lady just comes 
bursting through the wall on a 

951
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:23,040
motorcycle or whatever the fuck 
it was. 

952
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,480
It was awesome. 
Just a crazy opening and I was 

953
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,040
just like, all right. 
It definitely set the tone for 

954
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,280
the game. 
Bathrooms in the back. 

955
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,040
Yeah. 
Yep. 

956
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,640
I guess that totally normal 
occurrence for him. 

957
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,320
I also liked the framing in the 
opening cutscene where he's 

958
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:42,640
basically body blocking obvious 
like topless woman poster in the

959
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,240
background and then when he does
move his head there's like stars

960
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:47,920
over the nips. 
Yeah you don't ask. 

961
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,000
It's a good like Austin Powers 
ish joke. 

962
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,920
Oh, dude, Speaking of Austin, I 
was talking about that Austin 

963
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Power scene the other day at 
work. 

964
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,320
I don't remember what brought it
up, but I was, I started doing 

965
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:59,920
that little like sway back and 
forth that he does in that one 

966
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,480
scene where the baby's got the 
little pinwheel going back and 

967
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:03,840
forth. 
And I I was just like, I feel 

968
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,880
like I need a pinwheel in front 
of me like they did in Austin 

969
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,040
Power. 
But yeah, dude. 

970
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:13,880
So right away this game just 
kicks off and it's just going 

971
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:17,720
the action in it. 
I really enjoy the the action 

972
00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:21,880
combat. 
You mentioned Devil Trigger, I 

973
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,840
would hate to admit to both of 
you how long it took me to 

974
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,080
figure out that I could hit L1 
and it would activate Devil 

975
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:33,280
Trigger because I was wondering 
for like levels like how the 

976
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,680
fuck do I do that? 
I guess I just skipped past the 

977
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,080
IT telling me how to do it which
is my bad. 

978
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:43,240
I think it also it helps to go 
into the menu and look at like 

979
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:46,520
your inputs and stuff too. 
Because if you never figure out 

980
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,160
how to launch people in the air 
with your basic weapon, you're 

981
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,480
going to not have as much fun 
for the first good little while 

982
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,600
in the game. 
Because like I feel like the 

983
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,600
base combo especially is like 
the sword uppercut into Ebony 

984
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,160
and Ivory I. 
Don't remember ever uppercutting

985
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,680
anybody really. 
I just straight hack and slashed

986
00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:07,200
my way through this game. 
Dude I would shoot them if you 

987
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,320
until they got close and then I 
would just whack them. 

988
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,840
If you hit an enemy up into the 
air, usually the command is you 

989
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:16,880
hold the aim button, hit back 
and your sword attack button. 

990
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,040
Then you would pop them up in 
the air and if you kept aiming 

991
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,960
at them and shooting them it 
would count as melee attacks, so

992
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,400
it would keep building your 
style meter. 

993
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:27,040
Oh, that's cool. 
I know. 

994
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:28,960
I had no idea. 
Generally speaking, when you're 

995
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:32,640
using the pistols of an an 
Ivory, you're trying to prolong 

996
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,960
your combo just so you can get 
close and cover distance. 

997
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,840
But yeah, that's one of the few 
that when you first start doing 

998
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,160
it, you get a big pop on your 
combo meter. 

999
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,880
Yeah, just because every other 
use of your ranged weapons, at 

1000
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,720
least early on, doesn't give you
any unless you're double 

1001
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,640
trigger. 
But as you said Dane, you didn't

1002
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,600
even use double trigger your 
first time through, so. 

1003
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:54,240
But that was, you know, over 2 
decades ago. 

1004
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,680
Yeah, like I said, I basically 
just remember impalements, 

1005
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:02,440
motorcycle and spiders. 
I I hate to also admit this to 

1006
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:06,120
you that I mostly used Devil 
trigger to get around quicker. 

1007
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,000
Like only works with Alistar 
though. 

1008
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,920
Yeah, which I use Alistar a lot,
I really. 

1009
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:14,800
Like Alistar is the lightning 
sword, by the way, it's it's a 

1010
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,120
cool weapon. 
It's it gives you a lot of 

1011
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,000
mobility options, including it's
the one that you can unlock 

1012
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,840
double jump with. 
So like if you get the double 

1013
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,880
jump really early on in the 
game, there's like a blue herb 

1014
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,360
you can get that you couldn't 
otherwise get, which I didn't, 

1015
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:29,520
but I could immediately see how 
you would get it. 

1016
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:31,720
The other was the other the fist
weapons? 

1017
00:50:31,720 --> 00:50:33,480
Was it E free E? 
Free, yeah. 

1018
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:38,040
Now I immediately switched back 
to Alistair when I got those 

1019
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:40,440
after I did the little things 
where I had to punch something 

1020
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,600
to to light the fires because 
this is again a stupid reason 

1021
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,320
but in my head Dante no use fist
Dante swing sword so. 

1022
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:53,720
That is very true in the 
original and in the sequel 

1023
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:57,000
because so you know of the 
weapons that you get for him in 

1024
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,160
this game or if you get some 
unlockable characters, there's 

1025
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:06,080
an extra sword that you only get
to play as a special secret 

1026
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:07,880
character. 
You can play a Sparta if you 

1027
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,200
unlock them. 
Who carries a Catana? 

1028
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:16,480
The Yamato, which is Virgil's 
signature weapon, Dante's twin 

1029
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,160
brother. 
But every other weapon is swords

1030
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,720
except for the Ifrit and this 1.
And in the sequel you only get 

1031
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:26,440
swords from melee combat. 
It wasn't until three that 

1032
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:32,720
Dante's kid expands to just 
crazy options as far as melee 

1033
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,160
attacks and just kept that way 
for the rest of the series. 

1034
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,560
That's interesting because like 
the moment I got iffred, I was 

1035
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,720
thinking of like, and now I 
pronounce it iffred because 

1036
00:51:40,720 --> 00:51:42,800
that's the way they say it in 
Final Fantasy games now, even 

1037
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,320
though I don't even play them 
anymore. 

1038
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:47,480
It's weird. 
But because I said iffred as a 

1039
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,040
kid too, and that's yeah. 
But so I got when I got iffred, 

1040
00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,000
all of a sudden I started like 
thinking, man, I remember this 

1041
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,480
guy being such a rumored like a 
Smash Bros character. 

1042
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,920
And I was just like immediately 
between Alistair and efried 

1043
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,720
imagining what his kit for melee
attacks would look like in 

1044
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:07,480
Smash. 
And like you can immediately see

1045
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:11,000
like a full combo tilt attacks, 
smash attacks, everything. 

1046
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,520
Like he would have made a pretty
well-rounded character. 

1047
00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:17,560
Well, this game is basically a 
fighting game in 3D. 

1048
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:21,720
Yeah, it's, it's it's. 
The the way the combos and 

1049
00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:25,160
especially as the series goes on
and they got more and more crazy

1050
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,200
it, it really is just a fighting
game. 

1051
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,360
Yeah, you want to like cancel, 
move, cancel your like your bass

1052
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,560
melee combo into like a launcher
and then pop them up like it's 

1053
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,280
like Marvel versus Capcom. 
And then maybe you do the gun 

1054
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,280
actually, is it Dante and Marvel
versus Capcom now I think about 

1055
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,040
it, I think so. 
Haven't, isn't I? 

1056
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,280
Haven't played a versus. 
I haven't played a versus game 

1057
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,520
in forever. 
Real quick, did you, either of 

1058
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,440
you on the PlayStation two ever 
play a game called Barbarian? 

1059
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:51,960
Not me. 
I think I remember seeing it. 

1060
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:53,840
I don't know that I ever played 
it. 

1061
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,000
So I'll have to shoot you guys 
the ROM sometime just to try it 

1062
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,160
out. 
So it was a fighting game where 

1063
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,680
you had these different 
characters you could play as, 

1064
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:06,080
but they dropped you in a big 3D
arena and then you would go and 

1065
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,680
fight and like you would find 
weapons and you could use 

1066
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:12,280
weapons and stuff like that. 
And there was like verticality 

1067
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:14,440
to the levels. 
It was a really, really 

1068
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,560
interesting game. 
And I remember the thing that 

1069
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:20,080
blew my mind the most about that
game, being a kid that I was, 

1070
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:24,640
was on the loading screen, there
was like a little like skull and

1071
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,560
then the word loading and you 
could move them around with your

1072
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:30,920
thumb sticks. 
So like you could just like take

1073
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,120
the skull and move it around the
screen and then you could move 

1074
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:35,280
the now loading around. 
But like just the fact that you 

1075
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,280
could do that to give you 
something to do while it was 

1076
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:41,360
loading was great as a kid. 
But yeah, so when you said that.

1077
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,120
That reminds me of waving the 
now loading screen in 

1078
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,280
Castlevania Symphony of the 
Night like a banner when you 

1079
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,880
move around. 
Yes, yeah, it's just the 3D 

1080
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,160
fighting thing. 
I can, I can, I can relate to to

1081
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,400
that because Barbarian reminded 
me of that. 

1082
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,760
So I I can get that feeling from
it as well. 

1083
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,160
Now I got a question for you, 
Dalton. 

1084
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,120
It's a simple one. 
Since you talked about how long 

1085
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,920
it took you to figure out which 
button to hit for double 

1086
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:09,000
trigger, did you ever figure out
you could hot swap between 

1087
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,360
Alistair and Efret? 
Nope, you will click. 

1088
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:15,680
R3 click R3 and he would do like
a little animation and it would 

1089
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:19,640
either do a an orange or a pop 
out when you're swapping the 

1090
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,360
effort or a purple one when 
you're swapping the Alistair. 

1091
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,720
No shit, no, no idea then. 
From the look on Willy's face, 

1092
00:54:25,720 --> 00:54:27,240
he did not know that either. 
Nope. 

1093
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,720
I looked at the menu to figure 
out like my inputs from my 

1094
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:33,360
actual attacks, but I never 
looked at it for things like 

1095
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,960
that. 
I did not discover that until 

1096
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:40,360
the HD the collection came out. 
As many times as I played this I

1097
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:44,120
never because I never used the A
fret unless I absolutely had to.

1098
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:48,200
So essentially, you know, for 
Fire Puzzle and Fatten Griffin. 

1099
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:52,720
Now fucking hey dude, no, 
that's. 

1100
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,320
I just ruined your night. 
Didn't. 

1101
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,640
I obviously yeah, because I 
there was just so many times 

1102
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,600
that I like I would have to swap
to E frid for like a little like

1103
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,320
have to light something on fire 
or something like that. 

1104
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,680
And I if if I could just like 
click that, it'd been let me 

1105
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:07,800
tell you something else and I'll
be curious when Willie gets back

1106
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:09,600
to know if he dealt with this. 
I know you probably didn't 

1107
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,360
because you're used to it. 
How many times I saw Dante lean 

1108
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,840
back and wave somebody on with 
his pistols because I tried to 

1109
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:18,680
move the camera with the right 
thumb stick. 

1110
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,520
And anytime you move it, he just
does this little taunt. 

1111
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:26,160
So like so many times I would do
a taunt and be like God damn it 

1112
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,720
I didn't mean to do. 
That well, it's good for pulling

1113
00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:34,960
aggro and it's good for like 
getting that style meter up 

1114
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,760
because you taunt and you don't 
get hit and you let the 

1115
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,560
animation play all the way out. 
It gives you a little boost. 

1116
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,920
OK I was racking my brain being 
like why does he have a taunt? 

1117
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,080
Like what is that necessary for?
But I OK, that makes sense. 

1118
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,000
And then you know you can use 
that to pull aggro to get them 

1119
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,920
closer to you before you get the
Stinger attack which will let 

1120
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:59,760
you shoot forward using your 
sword like a javelin to close 

1121
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,520
distance. 
That was always my favorite 

1122
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:02,560
attack. 
Man, I. 

1123
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,120
I spammed the hell out of 
Stinger. 

1124
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,120
I apparently just played this 
game like a fucking noob when 

1125
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,360
they just swinging my sword and 
blasting bullets. 

1126
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,800
That explains probably why I had
so many issues in some spots. 

1127
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,640
Let me tell you some of the 
issues I had, and this was 

1128
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,240
probably just with the 
collection, it being a PC game 

1129
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:25,680
and PC games be PC gaming. 
The area where you go and the 

1130
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,520
lion statue is behind the blue 
bluish purple and you can't go 

1131
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,160
through it. 
It's like you have to go and do 

1132
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:32,400
something else to get that to go
away. 

1133
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,760
Then you destroy the statue. 
So I walked too close to that 

1134
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:42,360
and touched it with Dante and my
game went and just made this God

1135
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:47,320
awful noise and I ended up 
having alt F4. 

1136
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,840
That happened to me again later 
on. 

1137
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,800
I got to the dark, The Dark 
Knight. 

1138
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,960
I don't remember his name, but 
you know the the Black Knight 

1139
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:57,440
dude who comes down and you got 
to fight him. 

1140
00:56:57,440 --> 00:56:58,600
He's got. 
The big Neil Angelo. 

1141
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:03,520
Neil Angelo yeah, so him, he 
stabbed me and like lifted Dante

1142
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:09,600
up on the sword and it did the 
same thing and just made this 

1143
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,720
God awful noise and I had the 
alt F4 and it froze and I'm like

1144
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,720
what the fuck is going on? 
But I just chalked that up to 

1145
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:16,800
old game jank. 
And worked fine Linux. 

1146
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,400
Like weird crash. 
There's no. 

1147
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:24,760
Fucking sounds like a Gates 
issue. 

1148
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:30,800
Yeah, probably like a random PDF
or something. 

1149
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,880
So fucking I never understood 
the taunt either so I'm glad you

1150
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:38,280
told. 
What? 

1151
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:40,400
So it raises your magic meter? 
Is that what you're saying? 

1152
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:45,800
Not because if you can complete 
the animation without getting 

1153
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,160
hit or canceling out of it, it 
pulls aggro from the enemies so 

1154
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,520
they'll come at you faster and 
it will increase your style 

1155
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:52,840
meter. 
I. 

1156
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,320
Was going to say pulls aggro 
from what though? 

1157
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:59,120
There's not another guy. 
Like if the enemies are moving 

1158
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,880
slow and kind of meandering 
about not coming at you, you do 

1159
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,560
that, it's going to piss them 
off and they're going to come at

1160
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,400
you quicker. 
That makes sense, like 

1161
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,360
especially the puppet dudes love
to just fucking chill. 

1162
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,040
Yeah, the marionettes are just 
almost said meat bags, but you 

1163
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,240
know, they're just hanging out 
and taking their sweet ass time.

1164
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaking of those fuckers. 
So when I first played this game

1165
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,560
and loaded it up and was 
playing, I got to the room with 

1166
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:30,640
the plane in it that has all the
dolls hanging and for the life, 

1167
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,440
Chekhov's plane, yeah, Chekhov's
plane. 

1168
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,400
For the life of me, I could not 
fucking figure out what to do 

1169
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,360
right. 
I saw the symbol on the wall 

1170
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,240
tucked in the corner and I shot 
it. 

1171
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,520
I whacked it and I'm like, 
nothing's really happening. 

1172
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,400
What the fuck? 
So I bounced off I, I, I didn't 

1173
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:49,240
come back to the game for a few 
days because I was just like, I 

1174
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,400
didn't want to look up a guide. 
I did not want to be defeated by

1175
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,360
APS 2 game. 
So I came back to it and I got 

1176
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,640
frustrated and I went over to 
that symbol and I was like, God 

1177
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,400
damn it. 
And I hit it with my sword and I

1178
00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:02,960
was like stupid fucking symbol 
and it and it lit up and I went 

1179
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:06,680
motherfucking and it took me 
down and I was like, OK. 

1180
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:10,360
All right, earlier we 
established for me, all I have 

1181
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,560
is hammers, everything's a nail.
For Dante, all he has is a 

1182
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:15,600
sword. 
Everything's. 

1183
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,840
I felt very similar about 
writing in Metal Gear Revenge. 

1184
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,800
Yeah, I think I said something 
very similar, actually. 

1185
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,560
Right. 
I just tried slashing shit 

1186
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,240
because that is my vote. 
That's the verb I have. 

1187
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:30,440
So yeah, once I figured that 
out, it was smooth sailing for 

1188
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:34,320
the rest of the game, other than
a few difficult battles here and

1189
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:38,440
there for one. 
Like, did this game with the 

1190
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,720
camera that it has, Did this 
game really need the Indiana 

1191
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,560
Jones scene? 
Like, did you need to be running

1192
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,120
away towards the camera with a 
giant lava spider chasing you? 

1193
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,680
Don't. 
I don't know if that needs to 

1194
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:49,800
be. 
Yeah, twice. 

1195
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:51,960
Well, if you're a badass, you 
can kill it. 

1196
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:57,680
Well, yeah, but I I'm like, Nah,
Nah, I'm just gonna fucking run.

1197
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,600
I killed him and. 
It's real fun when you do it. 

1198
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:03,800
When you do it, he will like 
Burrow a lava tunnel in the 

1199
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,960
middle of the hallway and go 
down and he won't break the rest

1200
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,640
of the pillars on the way down. 
But when you come back later, 

1201
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,440
it's all broken because they 
didn't account for that. 

1202
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:19,480
He yeah, that's a very just 
interesting, interesting part 

1203
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:23,080
that I was just like, why? 
But all right, that's but I also

1204
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,240
asked you, Dana, I was like, why
did I was like, you know, the 

1205
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,800
the Nello, what was his name? 
Nello. 

1206
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,640
Nilo Angelo. 
Nilo Angelo. 

1207
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,640
Nilo Angelo, I don't know why I 
can't remember that. 

1208
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,240
Nilo Angelo, He made sense. 
It's. 

1209
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,080
Nellie Furtado. 
And then? 

1210
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,200
Ave. 
Maria. 

1211
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,200
I didn't, I didn't understand 
the the big lava spider. 

1212
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:48,440
I'm like, I was like, is this an
actual demon or do they just 

1213
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,880
make this up? 
And that was when Dane pointed 

1214
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,520
out that that was a time. 
And I think you either said 

1215
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,000
Capcom or just gaming in general
where they were like, what if we

1216
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,840
took a thing? 
It made it really big and made 

1217
01:00:57,880 --> 01:00:59,680
it. 
Well, it was a Resident Evil 

1218
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,400
thing. 
Let the Giant Gators. 

1219
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,000
Yeah, they're just like, let's 
make a she lob. 

1220
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,800
I just, I don't know, it was, it
was interesting to me, but. 

1221
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:10,560
That is definitely something I 
want to point out is this game 

1222
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,880
is very video gamey in a lot of 
ways. 

1223
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,080
Like if it had come out like 10 
years later, it would not have 

1224
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:19,040
been broken down into missions 
like it is. 

1225
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,120
Like it would have had like save
points or whatever and you'd 

1226
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,720
trek back and forth through the 
castle. 

1227
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,640
But it wouldn't have been as 
weirdly linear despite being a 

1228
01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,480
game that actually reuses 
locales in a really intelligent 

1229
01:01:31,480 --> 01:01:33,520
way. 
Like they would have tried to 

1230
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,720
make it fake, non linear, you 
know what I mean? 

1231
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:41,280
Well, that is really chalked up 
to what was the director's name?

1232
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:44,120
Hideki Kamiya, I think. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1233
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,000
He had a deep love of that old 
arcade style, and he wanted to 

1234
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,720
bring that, which in some of the
later missions really, really 

1235
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:56,600
shows where it's essentially a, 
you know, shoot em up. 

1236
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:00,320
Yeah, doing the weird flying 
mission. 

1237
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,000
And that is a signature thing, 
because you do the same thing in

1238
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,520
Bayonetta. 
There there was a couple spots 

1239
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:08,720
in this game where it's like all
right, mission start, I would 

1240
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,520
start the mission, I would run 
into a room and pick up an item 

1241
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,600
end of mission. 
And I'm like, really? 

1242
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,080
That was. 
The Resident Evil DNA. 

1243
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,120
Yeah, I'm like, yeah, what the 
fuck? 

1244
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:19,360
So then, not only that. 
Begin of next mission. 

1245
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:20,760
You're going to die in 5 
minutes. 

1246
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,000
If you don't get to the end of 
this, run, run. 

1247
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:27,160
Yeah. 
And Dane, you warned me about 

1248
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:31,120
this, but the sudden underwater 
first person shooter stuff? 

1249
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,040
Mission 13. 
Fuck that level. 

1250
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:35,800
Really weird. 
I was not warned about this one,

1251
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:38,120
or at least I wasn't paying 
attention if I was warned. 

1252
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,440
I actually kind of liked that 
part, but I'm a big weird freak 

1253
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,240
and just enjoy when things take 
a change of pace. 

1254
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,240
Well, prepare yourself Sir, 
because at the end of the game 

1255
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,440
suddenly you'll be the Red 
fucking Baron. 

1256
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,280
It's some really weird. 
Turn I I assumed that that's 

1257
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:59,800
what Mr. puzzles meant when he 
said Chekhov's plane that it 

1258
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:04,160
would in fact come back. 
Guess I So for the love of the 

1259
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:06,240
viewers, I didn't finish this 
game. 

1260
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,160
I actually had some really big 
technical struggles with it 

1261
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,440
early on, not because of the 
installation, but because what I

1262
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,040
didn't realize was I was playing
on a controller that was 

1263
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,760
essentially non functional. 
And so I just thought I was 

1264
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:22,120
really fucking bad at this game 
because what I was feeling like 

1265
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,880
was you had to hold the let's 
use PlayStation button language 

1266
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:30,000
triangle button down for like 
1/4 of a second to get an attack

1267
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,840
to come out with the sword. 
And I'm like, well, if I hold it

1268
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:35,860
down for a full second, though, 
then it it does the little pop 

1269
01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:38,160
up attack and my guy jumps and 
that's not what I want. 

1270
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:40,640
How did they get? 
And then eventually I tried 

1271
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,400
cleaning that button out with 
rubbing alcohol and realized, 

1272
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,480
oh, that Nope, it is actually 
supposed to be tapped to slash. 

1273
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,760
It is completely fine. 
And I bait that, like, that's 

1274
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,040
what got me past the giant 
spider boss the first time you 

1275
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:54,880
fight the Phantom. 
But a couple stages later, you 

1276
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,160
need much more precise shooting 
with the gun. 

1277
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:00,040
And I had a similar problem. 
Rubbing alcohol didn't fix it. 

1278
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:02,960
Then I remembered a conversation
I had with Mikhilov on the show 

1279
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:05,960
not too long ago where I was 
talking to him about, you know, 

1280
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:09,000
maintaining controllers with 
rubbing alcohol. 

1281
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:10,880
And he asked, does it make it, 
like, new? 

1282
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:14,720
And I said, not like, new, 
really, because it doesn't have 

1283
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,480
the same snap that you would 
expect. 

1284
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,680
It helps, you know, it doesn't 
make it perfect. 

1285
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:23,120
And I remember not too long ago 
he sent me maybe for a birthday 

1286
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,680
present or something like that, 
he sent me a wireless 8 bit 

1287
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:31,280
dough controller, which I have 
here also really like, hold on, 

1288
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,400
let me change the mode on it 
because as the colors like the 

1289
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:38,800
mode where if you push the one 
stick, the other one has like 

1290
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:44,960
the color. 
That's kind of neat, yeah. 

1291
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,280
And this one has completely 
fresh face buttons. 

1292
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,200
So I started playing with that 
today when I was stuck at like 

1293
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:54,200
mission. 
I was stuck at the level after 

1294
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:57,000
the first fight, the Black 
Knight, and all of a sudden I 

1295
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,960
got to level 15. 
So I finished like 11 missions 

1296
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:04,400
of the game today, just playing 
off and on very briefly. 

1297
01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,680
So it does have a bit of a 
difficulty curve when you first 

1298
01:05:08,680 --> 01:05:11,040
get to learning it, because 
until you learn the spacing and 

1299
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,960
the good combos and generally 
when to use your gun and when to

1300
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,640
use your sword, you're going to 
play a little fucky. 

1301
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:20,800
And also my approach against the
spider monster was kind of 

1302
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:25,160
stupid anyway so. 
My go to is always stand on his 

1303
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,680
ass and just beat the hell out 
of him. 

1304
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:30,160
See, it took me forever to 
realize I could actually stand 

1305
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,400
on him. 
I was basically trying to just 

1306
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,160
bait out head attacks and that 
has mixed results. 

1307
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,200
And also I figured out at some 
point that you can reflect the 

1308
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:42,000
fireball spit attack. 
And because I was having that 

1309
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,800
issue with the button sticking 
and not coming out when I wanted

1310
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,120
it to, that means I could never 
time it right. 

1311
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:49,960
So it was just like a queen 
flip, whether I would actually 

1312
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,240
reflect it or I would just get 
hit by an attack that does 

1313
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:57,000
massive damage and an oxy prone.
But I mean in in in the end, I 

1314
01:05:57,000 --> 01:06:00,000
got pretty far. 
I feel like I got to, I, I went 

1315
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:04,680
through, I got through the boat 
and back and oh, I, yeah, I 

1316
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,920
killed the Phoenix or Griffin. 
Griffin. 

1317
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:08,640
Griffin, thank you. 
Yes, I. 

1318
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,600
Want to say you've got? 
I killed I think I'm 2/3 of the 

1319
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:12,520
way through the game 
essentially. 

1320
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,520
I think you've got like 7 or 8 
missions left. 

1321
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,160
Yeah, it's not many. 
That that is, I think that's 

1322
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,000
correct. 
I, I did look at Nigerian guide 

1323
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,800
to get an idea of how far I was 
in because when I was not that 

1324
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:25,520
long from recording like a 
couple days and I was still kind

1325
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:27,400
of stuck early on. 
I'm like, I'm going to be 

1326
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:29,920
fucking useless. 
That's why I like it, didn't 

1327
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,960
give any progress reports about 
this one because like, I felt 

1328
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,760
bad about the fact that I had 
hours on this game and didn't 

1329
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:38,440
realize it was my controller 
holding me back. 

1330
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,480
Though, But but luckily now you 
got you tried out that 8 bit 

1331
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,560
though and that controller rule.
Yeah, so. 

1332
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:47,600
Now that this controller is 
fantastic again, very many thank

1333
01:06:47,600 --> 01:06:48,960
you to make a lot for sending me
this. 

1334
01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:50,720
Like you've had some really 
awesome gifts. 

1335
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,640
I believe he sent me that when 
he sent me the 3D printed Ice 

1336
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,520
brand sword, which has kind of 
wiggled out of its hilt, so I 

1337
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,400
need to figure out how to glue 
it back together. 

1338
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:00,960
But I do like the Ice brand 
sword to have. 

1339
01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:02,520
Hell yeah. 
Nice. 

1340
01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,720
Sweet. 
Yeah, I got my. 

1341
01:07:03,920 --> 01:07:06,040
That's the. 
First time I got to see it. 

1342
01:07:06,400 --> 01:07:10,880
Oh yeah, it's pretty cool. 
It the problem is like I think 

1343
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:14,240
it may have been glued in and it
came out of the Tang kind of so 

1344
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:14,960
it. 
Just puts you a. 

1345
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:17,280
Little I think probably just 
yeah, I think I've got just 

1346
01:07:17,280 --> 01:07:18,560
super glued or hot glued or 
something. 

1347
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:19,960
It should be fine. 
I think it's probably how I kept

1348
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:23,440
it together in the 1st place and
like there is like the seam 

1349
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:24,640
because he had to put it in 
pieces. 

1350
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,080
But it's really cool. 
Like it makes me feel like an 

1351
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,200
RPG hero. 
Like I love he based it on like 

1352
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,840
the the pixel art logo I did, 
but I don't have the taper out 

1353
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,520
and back down that he has it. 
Mine just goes straight and like

1354
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,440
I feel like adding that gives it
this very cool, like stylized 

1355
01:07:39,440 --> 01:07:42,560
like I don't know, it feels like
something that Akira Toriyama 

1356
01:07:42,560 --> 01:07:44,920
Dragon Quest type hero would. 
Have I was literally about to 

1357
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:46,600
say that's that's Willy's anime 
sword. 

1358
01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:48,160
That's the anime version of the 
sword. 

1359
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,640
Yeah, that's like stage 2 of the
Master Sword before you take it 

1360
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,920
to the Great Prairie. 
I love that. 

1361
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:59,000
That's yes that sort of fuck it.
I love it and yeah I love the 

1362
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:01,080
controller. 
It's oh, I just, I remember I 

1363
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,160
just showed you guys the lights 
on it and stuff cuz it's the 

1364
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:05,560
lights. 
You can't see out of you hanging

1365
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,040
up up there. 
I have the Dagoth or mask that 

1366
01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,160
he 3D printed me which is sweet.
Yeah, I think he sent us those 

1367
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:14,080
at about the same time cuz our 
birthdays are really close to 

1368
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,880
each other. 
So I think that he was giving us

1369
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,160
all that shit. 
His birthday gifts, Yeah. 

1370
01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,520
I believe I believe you are 
correct. 

1371
01:08:20,279 --> 01:08:22,720
It's just like it was 2 waves of
gifts essentially cuz there was 

1372
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:26,800
the handheld and then there was 
the controller and speedy print.

1373
01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:28,960
Listeners, I know we haven't 
really. 

1374
01:08:29,399 --> 01:08:33,680
And Dane, like I said, I'll let 
you fill in any gaps, but we 

1375
01:08:33,680 --> 01:08:35,120
haven't really talked much about
the story. 

1376
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,680
And that's because the story 
that I got from this was dude is

1377
01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:42,279
in office, hot girl shows up, we
need to kill the devil. 

1378
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:46,479
All right, so we go, we slay 
some demons, whack, whack, 

1379
01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,359
whack. 
Some shenanigans happen. 

1380
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:54,640
You kill said demon, You are 
demon son yourself. 

1381
01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:58,279
Girl gets stabbed. 
Shout at the sky, fly a plane. 

1382
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:00,960
You're back in your office. 
Girl was alive. 

1383
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:08,200
The the story is really thin and
it's mostly in implication of 

1384
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:13,880
just Dante, Tolkien, smack and 
lore of the legendary Dark 

1385
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:16,840
Knight Sparta. 
I feel like the story in DMC-1 

1386
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:21,800
is very vibes based, not lore. 
East because like. 

1387
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,960
Like even when they talked about
the Dark Wars, Sparta, you know,

1388
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:29,279
like he defeated Moondis 2000 
years ago and then stuff 

1389
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:31,439
happened. 
That's about it later dude. 

1390
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:33,880
By the way, Moondis is back I 
guess. 

1391
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,960
So as much as all of this game, 
the story makes no fucking sense

1392
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,680
and I want to explain why. 
So Dante hanging out in the 

1393
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,640
shop, Trish shows up, tries to 
kill him. 

1394
01:09:45,840 --> 01:09:48,000
Surprise, it's a test. 
I want to make sure that you're 

1395
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,800
good for this. 
Mundus is coming back. 

1396
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,320
You probably don't know him, but
we got to go stop him. 

1397
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,360
He's going to destroy the human 
realm. 

1398
01:09:56,560 --> 01:10:00,680
Thousands of years ago, Sparta, 
who was Mundus's right hand, 

1399
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:05,720
decided this is evil as fuck and
turned on Mundus to protect 

1400
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:11,360
mankind and sealed all of the 
like, major gates between hell 

1401
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,080
and earth. 
And you know, 30 some years ago 

1402
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:19,560
at this point knocked up a human
woman, had twin boys and fucked 

1403
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:20,400
off. 
He disappeared. 

1404
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:24,920
The games, to my knowledge, 
never actually say did he die? 

1405
01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:26,280
Did he leave? 
What? 

1406
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,520
I like to imagine they kind of 
had the similar fate as oh Never

1407
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:31,760
mind. 
I was about to give a massive 

1408
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:34,920
anime spoiler that doesn't 
happen until like half the show 

1409
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,240
in Never mind. 
If you know, you know. 

1410
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:45,400
So you go through the game, the 
recurring cross. 

1411
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,400
Yeah, because the game's 
essentially boiled down into 

1412
01:10:49,000 --> 01:10:52,840
three major boss arcs before you
get to the final boss. 

1413
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:56,280
You have the Phantom set, you 
have the Griffin set, and you 

1414
01:10:56,280 --> 01:10:58,840
have the Nightmare set, and then
you go against Mundus. 

1415
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:03,560
But the recurring guy who seems 
like a match for Dante is Nilo 

1416
01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:06,760
Angelo, who we've mentioned. 
Nilo Angelo is debuted in the 

1417
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,240
level The Dark Knight or the 
Black Knight? 

1418
01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:13,040
Sorry, not The Dark Knight. 
And he is basically just Batman 

1419
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,280
of like, yeah, he is the Knight 
now. 

1420
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:18,120
He's a fucking he's like, he's 
a, he's a sortie mandemony guy 

1421
01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,040
who's big and strong, but kind 
of fights like in a kind of 

1422
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:24,120
honorable way and like moves 
around and beckons you to come 

1423
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,920
fight. 
And he seems like he loves to 

1424
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,400
fight you. 
And even Dante first meet 

1425
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:30,400
someone's like, I didn't think 
I'd run into anyone with Guts in

1426
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,440
a place like this. 
And I don't know why I gave 

1427
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,400
Dante that voice, because that's
not what he sounds like. 

1428
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:38,760
And I know you said you got to 
level 15, but I can't remember 

1429
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:41,960
the last level with Nilo Angelo.
Did you finish the third fight, 

1430
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:46,640
Willie? 
I don't don't know if I did, no,

1431
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:50,880
he definitely left like the the 
the last time I killed him. 

1432
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:53,720
I feel like he basically looked 
like he exploded but then he 

1433
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:55,560
just kind of became lightning 
and floated away. 

1434
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:57,760
So I don't think he got kilt 
kilt. 

1435
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,320
Did did you unlock the Sparta? 
No. 

1436
01:12:00,320 --> 01:12:02,400
OK no. 
If the Sparta gets a second form

1437
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,560
then no. 
The Sparta sword is still the 

1438
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:08,920
basic bitch sword. 
For me, OK so this is a spoiler 

1439
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,560
if you plan on going further 
into it, but it's a really 

1440
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,480
subtle one that you have to read
Adam descriptions to fully 

1441
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:16,960
appreciate so. 
Love me of souls. 

1442
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:23,280
So after the for the third fight
with Nilo Angelo, he takes his 

1443
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,800
helmet off and he looks very 
similar to Dante. 

1444
01:12:27,160 --> 01:12:28,360
Oh, is he Virgil? 
OK. 

1445
01:12:28,680 --> 01:12:33,880
Yeah, and after you kill him, he
drops an amulet that matches the

1446
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:38,360
one Dante has, which. 
Explains it, says Dante and 

1447
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:40,960
Virgil on the back according to 
the item description. 

1448
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,800
OK, Yeah. 
So, and whenever he picks up 

1449
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:48,400
this amulet, you hear like these
sounds of children playing and I

1450
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:50,960
think like a birthday party and 
it's two boys. 

1451
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,040
And, you know, Dante has the 
brooding. 

1452
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,480
Dante has the brooding fat. 
Well, it went completely over 

1453
01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:57,520
Dalton's head. 
It did. 

1454
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:01,440
So I don't even think Virgil's 
name is uttered. 

1455
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:03,640
You have to read Adam 
descriptions to get Virgil's 

1456
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,000
name. 
To be fair, also, Dalton didn't 

1457
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:08,480
realize that Ronnie from Eldon 
Ring was actually Luke 

1458
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:09,800
Skywalker's dad. 
So. 

1459
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:14,480
What? 
That one was just for me. 

1460
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,320
Someone in the audience is going
to like it. 

1461
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,280
Most of them just showed up. 
Like truncate silence is going 

1462
01:13:20,280 --> 01:13:22,000
to eat that. 
But they just looked at me for 8

1463
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:23,840
seconds like. 
I. 

1464
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:29,240
I jokes only dogs can hear. 
So I I want to fully admit that 

1465
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:34,800
by the time I got to the Nilo 
Angelo stuff I was skipping 

1466
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,440
cutscenes because at that point 
the story didn't make any sense 

1467
01:13:37,440 --> 01:13:39,400
to me. 
It just seemed like action game 

1468
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:42,640
which made me wonder. 
That's weird because I I thought

1469
01:13:42,760 --> 01:13:44,480
you would really like the 
cutscenes just because they were

1470
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:46,240
so like. 
Cheesy. 

1471
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:50,360
The number like underworld or in
rice type vibes. 

1472
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,480
Like I thought you just would 
have liked to be in that early 

1473
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,480
OS goth shit again. 
I just, I really enjoyed running

1474
01:13:55,480 --> 01:13:58,800
around and looking around the 
levels more than I did the 

1475
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,160
cutscenes themselves. 
Like I just enjoyed exploring as

1476
01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,240
Dante. 
And but yeah, you are correct, I

1477
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:06,360
loved the the whole aesthetic of
the castle you were in. 

1478
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,200
So yeah, I'll fully admit that's
on me. 

1479
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:13,880
And you said that the the story 
picks up more in the third game,

1480
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:16,840
correct? 
Yeah, the third one is the 

1481
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:20,120
strongest point story wise 
because it goes back to like 

1482
01:14:20,440 --> 01:14:24,760
late teens, early 20s Dante 
before he has awakened his devil

1483
01:14:24,760 --> 01:14:28,080
abilities and the primary 
antagonist is Virgil. 

1484
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:29,280
Cool. 
OK. 

1485
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:33,040
And that is where everyone falls
in love with Virgil. 

1486
01:14:33,200 --> 01:14:37,280
Then you get to Devil May Cry 4 
where you play for the first 

1487
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,760
half of the game is Nero. 
And the worst kept secret in 

1488
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,760
video gaming is that Nero is 
Virgil's bastard son. 

1489
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:52,280
OK, and then you get to well, 
you don't know how much you're 

1490
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:54,600
stumbling into like plot points 
with that. 

1491
01:14:57,640 --> 01:15:00,640
And then Devil May Craft 5 is 
where they finally make Neuro 

1492
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:02,320
pool. 
And then that game you're. 

1493
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,240
Playing is the only things I 
know about Devil May Cry outside

1494
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:10,560
of remembering renting 1 as a 
kid and not getting very far in.

1495
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:14,920
It is just when they came out 
with the second anime, the 

1496
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:19,840
Netflix 1, and they had the 
teaser that was 2 Limp Bizkits 

1497
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:23,200
rolling and I was just like, 
that's about right. 

1498
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:29,280
Yeah, whenever I saw the teaser 
and realized, oh, they made Limp

1499
01:15:29,280 --> 01:15:32,520
Bizkit the opening theme, I 
decided right then and there I'm

1500
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:36,240
not watching this. 
It made a lot of sense to me 

1501
01:15:36,240 --> 01:15:39,080
somehow. 
Did either of you ever see the 

1502
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,200
old Devil May Cry anime? 
Nothing to do with Netflix, I I 

1503
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:43,520
watched this on Crunchyroll back
in the. 

1504
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,720
Day no that. 
That's why I said this is the 

1505
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:48,800
second anime because I do know 
there is an anime as opposed to 

1506
01:15:49,440 --> 01:15:52,000
the Netflix production. 
Had one of the best. 

1507
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,360
I've seen it in bits and pieces 
over years. 

1508
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:58,280
OK, to me it had one of the 
greatest anime opening scenes 

1509
01:15:58,280 --> 01:16:01,320
ever. 
First episode, just a seedy 

1510
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:04,240
little bar and Dante, I don't 
remember if he goes walking in 

1511
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:05,640
or if he's already sitting at 
the bar. 

1512
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:07,880
But like, somebody comes up to 
the bar and starts having a 

1513
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,480
conversation with Dante and they
get fresh with him and he just 

1514
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,040
blows their fucking head off, 
which causes a couple other 

1515
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,760
people to demon out around him 
because he, the person he killed

1516
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,280
was a demon. 
And he just slays like everybody

1517
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,120
in the fucking bar. 
And I think if I remember right,

1518
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,640
it's either the he kills the 
bartender too, or the bartenders

1519
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:27,160
left alive. 
But I feel like I remember him 

1520
01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,840
paying his tab after all these 
people died and then walking 

1521
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,240
out. 
And I was just like, that's 

1522
01:16:32,240 --> 01:16:34,640
fucking fantastic. 
I mean, that's tremendous. 

1523
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,440
Oh, dude. 
But yeah, yeah, when I heard 

1524
01:16:38,440 --> 01:16:42,520
Limp Bizkit was oddly fitting, 
but at the same time it felt 

1525
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:43,880
weird to me. 
I feel like Devil. 

1526
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,280
When I think Devil May Cry, I 
think of metal core. 

1527
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:50,680
I don't think of new metal. 
They have so much awesome music 

1528
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:55,760
in the soundtracks for these 
games and the only the only song

1529
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:59,120
they actually use from any of 
the games in the new Netflix 

1530
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:04,600
anime is a remix version of the 
song Devil Trigger which is the 

1531
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,040
theme song for Nero from Devil 
May Craft app. 

1532
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,840
They didn't even use a Dante 
thing I. 

1533
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:13,480
Was gonna say if you gave me 
like a contemporaneous song to 

1534
01:17:13,480 --> 01:17:17,520
use to try to do a Devil May Cry
anime, I would have been like, 

1535
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:21,440
oh if we're going AMV with it, 
it's bring me to life baby. 

1536
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,120
Honestly, you know what song 
comes to my mind? 

1537
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:28,360
Like if I want to think about 
like I'm whipping ass as Dante, 

1538
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:29,840
what song will be playing in my 
head? 

1539
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:33,640
Fucking rain that yakuza. 
Zero song Yakuza 0, Yeah. 

1540
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:38,080
Like that song is like just 
coded for beating ass. 

1541
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:40,000
So like just give me more stuff 
like that. 

1542
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:43,440
And the DMC music was good. 
Like even playing this game, I 

1543
01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:45,440
thought that the music was good.
I was just a rocking little 

1544
01:17:45,440 --> 01:17:46,600
thing as I was running around 
like. 

1545
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,080
What the hell, that was really 
interesting is it felt like the 

1546
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:51,760
music, almost like I couldn't 
tell if it was local to the 

1547
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,160
areas. 
It was like, obviously there was

1548
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,040
battle music and normal music, 
but I couldn't tell if like when

1549
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:59,600
you're in the castle, if like 
the classical baroque type stuff

1550
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,680
played depending on the area you
were in or if it was like just a

1551
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,040
really mixy ambient song, you 
know? 

1552
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:11,040
Yeah, they had their background 
ambient tracks that would, you 

1553
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:14,400
know, fade into the combat 
track, and then once you kill, 

1554
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,800
the last thing that fades back 
away and it goes back to 

1555
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,640
whatever that area's ambient 
kind of music and sound is. 

1556
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:23,440
But there was just like a single
ambient track that like would 

1557
01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:26,640
just kind of fade in different 
genres aside from the combat 

1558
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:28,280
music, right? 
Like, because I feel like 

1559
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,520
sometimes you would get like 
some choir singing or like some 

1560
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:35,000
baroque organ out of nowhere. 
Yeah, they had a couple. 

1561
01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:37,840
It wasn't just a single one that
they had a couple of tracks. 

1562
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:39,920
OK. 
I always like the combat music 

1563
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,720
better. 
So like the ambient stuff never 

1564
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,200
really jumps out. 
Super memorable. 

1565
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,440
Like there's the main one that 
you get a lot when you first get

1566
01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:50,520
on the island that still is 
seared in my brain. 

1567
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,000
Like I do feel like and like 
also there was like the kind of 

1568
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:57,160
baroque music that would have 
played when like major enemy or 

1569
01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,600
when enemies were debuted for 
the first time, even if they 

1570
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,360
weren't going to be a major 
enemy. 

1571
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:05,240
Like because you run into the 
one that the Lions challenge 

1572
01:19:05,240 --> 01:19:08,280
enemy several, several times 
about the course of the game. 

1573
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,280
But the first time it feels like
a really weird special 

1574
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,040
encounter, you know what I mean?
Yeah, the Shadow, which is a 

1575
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:18,360
normal enemy in this game and 
wouldn't be a boss, but in 

1576
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,320
pretty much any other game, 
Yeah, and it is essentially your

1577
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,560
training for taking on that 
merit later in the game. 

1578
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,440
Oh, that, that makes a lot of 
sense because like I did feel 

1579
01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:31,760
like basically it was like read,
you know, read the pattern 

1580
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:34,200
really quick. 
Use your gun until it reveals 

1581
01:19:34,200 --> 01:19:37,200
its weak point or use devil 
trigger attacks if you have 

1582
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,160
them. 
Because I think at least against

1583
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:41,720
the shadow, at least the first 
time you fight it, if you hit it

1584
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:45,320
with a melee attack and it 
doesn't have devil trigger on 

1585
01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:47,320
it, I think that actually causes
you damage. 

1586
01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:50,440
I so seldom notice when I'm 
taking damage where I can get 

1587
01:19:50,440 --> 01:19:53,760
fucked up. 
So often playing these games I'm

1588
01:19:53,760 --> 01:19:56,160
just trying not to die and 
getting the devil trigger gauge 

1589
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,160
built up enough so that I can 
flash it and get my help topped 

1590
01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:00,600
off. 
See, that's the other thing is 

1591
01:20:00,600 --> 01:20:03,120
it took me a really long time 
and I'm sure when Dalton comes 

1592
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,960
back he'll say the same thing. 
It took me a really long time to

1593
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:08,960
realize how quickly Devil 
Trigger replenishes. 

1594
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:12,560
Like you can be healing a lot in
this game and I was not using 

1595
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:18,560
that resource for a lot of it. 
Now a fun thing about the Shadow

1596
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:23,680
and Griffin in Devil May Cry 5, 
they introduce 1/3 character 

1597
01:20:23,680 --> 01:20:27,120
with completely different 
mechanics from anything in any 

1598
01:20:27,120 --> 01:20:30,200
of the other games. 
His name is V, he is physically 

1599
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:34,880
weak and his weapon is a cane. 
He has two pet demons, well 

1600
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:40,520
technically 3 Shadow which is 
his melee attack, Griffin which 

1601
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:43,200
is a smaller scaled down version
for his range. 

1602
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:46,560
And then when he uses devil 
trigger he summons a alternate 

1603
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,520
version of the nightmare boss 
which is like a hole in this one

1604
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:54,840
and you're kind of acting as a 
field general moving around 

1605
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:57,560
really slow because he can't run
for very long. 

1606
01:20:57,560 --> 01:20:59,880
He will stumble and then Shadow 
will do that. 

1607
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,200
Weird uddle scoot thing 
underneath them and then you're 

1608
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,920
skateboarding on shadow instead 
of sprinting that. 

1609
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:08,240
Actually sounds really wild for 
a playable character. 

1610
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:11,840
It's really, really cool and the
first time I played that game my

1611
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:14,920
video card could not handle all 
the shit that happens on screen 

1612
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:16,400
at once when you're playing with
him. 

1613
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,200
So it would actually have to 
play bad to not crash. 

1614
01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:25,840
But we're talking about 1, not 
Pavlo Dalton's back, so killed 

1615
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:29,040
enough time. 
Those guys, did you also find 

1616
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:32,240
that like you didn't realize for
a while how quickly double 

1617
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,200
trigger replenished? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1618
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,480
No, I. 
Cuz like after a while I 

1619
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:39,040
realized, oh, I can be a double 
trigger like half the God damn 

1620
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,680
time as long as I'm fighting 
aggressively, but for a while 

1621
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:44,160
I'm like, oh, I gotta save. 
This is like my limit break. 

1622
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,640
Yeah, I would use it to like get
to from A to B quicker, but 

1623
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:52,720
anytime that I would be in a 
fight, I would be like, man, 

1624
01:21:52,720 --> 01:21:56,160
should I save this devil trigger
up for something more because I 

1625
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:59,600
didn't know if I needed to find 
items to replenish it like I I 

1626
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,680
didn't know. 
So yeah, I'm I'm there with you 

1627
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,600
that I didn't realize that it 
would just come back as quickly 

1628
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,200
as it is until about I think I 
was like dealing with Griffin 

1629
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:09,400
when I was like. 
Yeah, it was definitely the 

1630
01:22:09,400 --> 01:22:12,200
Griffin fight on the boat where 
I was like, Oh my God, if I use 

1631
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,120
the handguns, I'm getting my 
Devil trigger back like faster 

1632
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:18,160
than I'm using. 
It with Griffin Maestrat was 

1633
01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:20,760
always swapped to infra it 
because it would increase the 

1634
01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:23,840
damage output for range weapons 
and use a grenade launcher on 

1635
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:26,000
them. 
See, I I used the grenade 

1636
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:27,800
launcher on the first fight 
against Griffin. 

1637
01:22:28,120 --> 01:22:30,800
I used different grenade on the 
first fight I think and I really

1638
01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:33,920
enjoyed that combo but I just 
couldn't seem to hit him because

1639
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,720
there's so much shit that your 
grenade runs into on the boat 

1640
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:39,040
that like. 
I thought it was better to just 

1641
01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:42,600
keep shooting and keep on 
pressuring with Ebony and Ivory.

1642
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,960
Yeah, the boat is a little bit 
trickier, I think if you're up 

1643
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:49,600
there, I know directions on a 
boat, but I don't know what the 

1644
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:52,840
different levels are called. 
But you know up there where you 

1645
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:55,880
would be steering from, you have
the least stuff in your way. 

1646
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:57,960
Yeah. 
But you're also. 

1647
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,680
The most bridge I think, but 
yeah, I preferred being exposed 

1648
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:06,680
because like it could the the 
the lightning laser thing could 

1649
01:23:06,680 --> 01:23:11,040
go through obstacles anyway. 
So like I would rather have a 

1650
01:23:11,040 --> 01:23:13,280
clear line of sight on him. 
He could have a clear line of 

1651
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:14,680
sight on me too, but he didn't 
need it. 

1652
01:23:14,680 --> 01:23:17,600
So and then when he started 
doing the Lightning Lightnings, 

1653
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:22,200
I could just run towards the 
four of the ship and then come 

1654
01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:24,360
back to AFT later and shoot at 
him some more. 

1655
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,040
Yeah. 
I will, I will say that my 

1656
01:23:28,040 --> 01:23:32,600
favorite ranged weapon in this 
game was by far the shotgun, as 

1657
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:35,080
it always is in any game that 
has a shotgun. 

1658
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,960
That is my shit. 
I felt like I kept falling in 

1659
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:41,000
love with different weapons over
time, but the way the shotgun 

1660
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,160
dealt with the little witch 
monsters was just like almost a 

1661
01:23:44,160 --> 01:23:46,800
cheat code. 
Yeah, it's just getting that 

1662
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:49,960
time and now and not the 
scissors away and then blast 

1663
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:51,200
them in the base. 
Yeah. 

1664
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,440
A mechanic once you got kept for
later games where they do pop 

1665
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:57,280
back up. 
Awesome, because that I felt 

1666
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,320
like that was a really 
satisfying fight once you 

1667
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,280
learned it. 
And I also thought it was like 

1668
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:04,040
it was a it was really 
educational too, because the 

1669
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,680
room you get the shotgun in, 
it's the library and that's the 

1670
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:09,200
same room you first fight the 
witch monsters in. 

1671
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,880
Like that was really well done, 
well signposted. 

1672
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,760
And to hammer at home even 
further, there is a secret 

1673
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,760
mission very close to when you 
get the shotgun. 

1674
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:21,760
And in fact, that monster, for 
the first time there's a secret 

1675
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:26,160
mission where the challenge is 
kill one of those in one shot. 2

1676
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:27,840
pass. 
Yeah, because. 

1677
01:24:27,960 --> 01:24:31,680
There's also a bullshit one, but
you know, like the secret 

1678
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,520
missions are really hit and miss
in this game. 

1679
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:37,120
I only found one secret mission 
and the way it was worded was 

1680
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:39,520
really stupid. 
It was on the level where you're

1681
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:43,960
being drained by the God. 
What was the item that there's 

1682
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:47,120
so many random key items you get
for one level in this game and I

1683
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:50,080
can't remember what it was 
called but it was the one that 

1684
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:51,480
drains your health when you have
it. 

1685
01:24:51,760 --> 01:24:55,920
And the the implication of the 
secret mission was that you 

1686
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:59,440
needed to get the spiders lured 
somewhere to kill them, but 

1687
01:24:59,440 --> 01:25:02,920
really it was just kill two of 
the non lava versions of the 

1688
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,160
phantom. 
I didn't basically get one on 

1689
01:25:05,160 --> 01:25:07,520
this play through so I don't 
remember that one. 

1690
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:09,560
Very clear. 
It was just like a big open 

1691
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:11,880
super a room. 
I think it was the same room 

1692
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:15,280
that like a sewer opened up and 
you get a rusty key in on the 

1693
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,720
way through the basements. 
The most bullshit secret 

1694
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:22,480
mission, the one that I hate the
most, the sargassos, the 

1695
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:25,840
floating skulls. 
There's one mission where you 

1696
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:30,040
have to use the ability enemy 
step where you jump off of a 

1697
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:35,040
enemy's head and they have like 
a stair step of like 10 of them 

1698
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,800
that you have to jump and jump 
and jump and jump, bouncing off 

1699
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:42,600
their heads to grab a. 
There's a really fun level in 

1700
01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,360
Mario Galaxy that sounds like 
that. 

1701
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,360
But this game, the way the 
camera and the platforming and 

1702
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,800
Devil May Cry games, it's always
there. 

1703
01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:55,040
It's always terrible. 
These games are not made for 

1704
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:56,840
this. 
I don't know why they keep 

1705
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,560
sticking it in there. 
I love the games but I hate 

1706
01:25:59,560 --> 01:26:01,760
their platforming moments. 
The weird thing too is I feel 

1707
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,760
like the platform was really up 
and down in this game too, 

1708
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:06,920
because there were areas where 
the platforming seemed generous.

1709
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,560
Almost like there's a section 
where there's a bunch of 

1710
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:12,960
floating elevator platforms that
kind of go up and down in the 

1711
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,320
central courtyard where you're 
trying to get this item from, 

1712
01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:18,200
kind of a mid pillar. 
And every time you move to the 

1713
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,040
front of the platform the game 
doesn't let you walk off the 

1714
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:25,160
end, it rotates the camera to 
where if you do a forward jump 

1715
01:26:25,160 --> 01:26:28,320
once it's done rotating you just
land it as long as you time it 

1716
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,000
right. 
But then like there was also 

1717
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:35,960
when the bridge collapses and 
you want to go back over it to 

1718
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:39,840
get the blue orb. 
Like every time the camera just 

1719
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,640
seemed to fuck me over for no 
reason there. 

1720
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:46,280
Yeah, but that the broken bridge
is the worst and platforming in 

1721
01:26:46,280 --> 01:26:49,840
this, you know, that's not 
involving that secret mission. 

1722
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,400
But at the very least, at least 
these, the price of failure is 

1723
01:26:53,400 --> 01:26:55,920
just you have to fight like a 
room full of sargassos again. 

1724
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,880
And it's really not bad. 
Sargassi. 

1725
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:00,640
I guess it sounds like an 
Italian word. 

1726
01:27:01,000 --> 01:27:02,840
Sagassi. 
Sagassi. 

1727
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:04,640
Sagassi. 
Baba de Boopy. 

1728
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:09,760
Baby de Baba de Boop I I hate to
admit it, and I feel like I need

1729
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:12,320
to play through this game again.
I do not think I came across a 

1730
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,960
single secret mission. 
I looked for them because I knew

1731
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,680
they were there and I found some
places that I felt like they 

1732
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:19,000
were hinting towards a secret 
mission. 

1733
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,680
Like I would look at a painting 
and there would be a weird 

1734
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,320
feeling coming from it but I 
never figured out anything to do

1735
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,240
with it. 
They're signposted better in 

1736
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:30,600
later games. 
A lot of times it's backtracking

1737
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,040
to somewhere that you were in 
the previous mission. 

1738
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:35,760
They'll stick a secret mission 
in there. 

1739
01:27:36,880 --> 01:27:40,800
Like I think if you backtrack 
after the first Phantom fight, 

1740
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:45,520
there's a you'll go into that 
same room where you fought 

1741
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,800
Phantom for the first time and 
there's tons and tons of little 

1742
01:27:49,000 --> 01:27:51,480
baby spiders everywhere that you
have to kill. 

1743
01:27:51,480 --> 01:27:54,720
And if you kill them all, you 
get the blue orb fragment, which

1744
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:56,600
blue orbs incidentally raise 
your health. 

1745
01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,840
Oh OK, I did find that then. 
OK, so I did find a secret. 

1746
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:04,600
I feel better now. 
But the the one secret mission I

1747
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:08,320
found was like on the way back 
when you have the the item that 

1748
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:10,880
drains your Max health. 
If you keep on going down one of

1749
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,400
the big semicircular corridors 
and just go through a door you 

1750
01:28:14,400 --> 01:28:17,400
went through earlier, it just 
immediately becomes the secret 

1751
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:19,240
mission. 
Which is weird as hell. 

1752
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,200
Like it just says you're in 
secret mission 3 or whatever. 

1753
01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,200
But in three and four they 
signpost secret missions with an

1754
01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:30,240
object will be suspiciously 
read, whereas it's not normally.

1755
01:28:30,440 --> 01:28:32,680
And if you interact with it, it 
will take you to the secret 

1756
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,000
mission. 
And then in five it's you'll see

1757
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:40,080
these weird kind of patterns 
carved in like the scenery. 

1758
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:43,880
And if you stand in one specific
spot and tilt the camera a 

1759
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,680
certain way to where all of the 
lines match up to show some 

1760
01:28:47,680 --> 01:28:51,200
weird demonic sigil, that will 
take you to the secret mission. 

1761
01:28:51,880 --> 01:28:55,240
OK, well boys, is there anything
else that we'd like to touch on 

1762
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,160
with Devil May Cry? 
Anything that we haven't gotten 

1763
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,520
to yet. 
I mean I feel like the main 

1764
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,800
things you can even criticize 
about this game are just it 

1765
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:05,880
being very 2001 in nature. 
The plot is thin and shit is 

1766
01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:09,200
just not really explained 
because it is a video game that 

1767
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,040
says I put a giant spider in 
front of you. 

1768
01:29:11,480 --> 01:29:14,120
Dante knows it's a problem, you 
know it's a problem. 

1769
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,120
Fight the giant spider. 
It doesn't say you know you need

1770
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:19,600
to look at the item descriptions
to understand the lore of the 

1771
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:23,880
giant spider or whatever. 
Like it's from its time in a way

1772
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,360
that's both good and bad. 
And that definitely in the terms

1773
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:30,000
of bad, includes cameras for 
platforming ain't that good. 

1774
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,840
Cameras for combat ain't that 
good in some of the arenas. 

1775
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:38,120
I really think that the first 
fight against the Phantom has 

1776
01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:41,200
you just get stuck on stuff 
because the camera won't let you

1777
01:29:41,200 --> 01:29:44,120
see the goddamn pillars that are
in the room a lot of the time. 

1778
01:29:44,960 --> 01:29:47,520
And I also feel like one of the 
weird things about this game 

1779
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,360
too, is if you just beat a level
that took you like 10 minutes 

1780
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,680
and you immediately go back and 
replay it, you'll beat it in 

1781
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:56,800
four every time. 
It's like there's this weird 

1782
01:29:56,800 --> 01:30:00,080
sense of like, things feel 
better until you know what it or

1783
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,040
things feel bigger until you 
know what it wants you to do, 

1784
01:30:02,240 --> 01:30:04,200
and then they feel very, very 
small. 

1785
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:07,200
I guess there's two points that 
I wanted to definitely cover on 

1786
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:12,880
this before we wrap all that up.
One a fun fact, this game was 

1787
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:14,560
born from a glitch. 
How so? 

1788
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:20,240
It originated as a glitch when 
they were developing Oni Musha. 

1789
01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:24,440
That makes a ton of sense. 
I kept wanting to compare this 

1790
01:30:24,440 --> 01:30:27,520
to Oni Musha because I did want 
to say that that was like the 

1791
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,080
prior art in the genre up until 
that point. 

1792
01:30:30,920 --> 01:30:35,680
But there was a glitch where if 
you use certain attacks as 

1793
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:39,000
Samanoski you would juggle 
enemies, which was not an 

1794
01:30:39,000 --> 01:30:42,720
intended mechanic and someone 
goes wait, that's kind of cool. 

1795
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:45,080
And so they were like, that 
looks so cool. 

1796
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:48,000
We should make a game where you 
juggle enemies and we rate you 

1797
01:30:48,040 --> 01:30:51,040
on how cool you are. 
And well. 

1798
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,720
This is why Hideki Kamiya got 
paid the big bucks dude. 

1799
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:55,840
That guy was visionary and still
is I guess. 

1800
01:30:56,040 --> 01:30:59,840
And when the game was being 
developed to, they took that 

1801
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:02,840
mechanic and they were 
developing a new Resident Evil 

1802
01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,400
game. 
And in that one tone, the 

1803
01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,400
character name was Tony 
Redgrave. 

1804
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:09,600
And then they realized as they 
were getting more and more 

1805
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:14,360
demonic and they were like, this
is getting far away from our 

1806
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:19,160
core themes in Resident Evil. 
Let's branch it off into a new 

1807
01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,440
thing. 
And when they did Devil May Cry,

1808
01:31:21,440 --> 01:31:24,440
they changed him from Tony 
Redgrave, which gets alluded to 

1809
01:31:24,440 --> 01:31:29,760
in later games as a fun little 
Fan Easter egg, to Dante and by 

1810
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,800
referencing Dante's Inferno. 
That's why his brother's name? 

1811
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,800
Virgil. 
Right, Tony Redgrave, that's. 

1812
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:37,840
Cool that I was gonna say it's 
cool that they bring up the name

1813
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,440
Tony Redgrave again because it's
like there's like a little 

1814
01:31:40,440 --> 01:31:45,000
Easter egg in Doom 2016 that 
references Flynn Taggart, which 

1815
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:48,320
is the name of the guy, the Doom
guy protagonist in the Doom 

1816
01:31:48,320 --> 01:31:50,200
novels. 
You know, it's like little 

1817
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,760
things like that where you know,
they're referencing the 

1818
01:31:52,760 --> 01:31:56,080
development and the early things
that I feel like a cool shout 

1819
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:59,200
outs for fans. 
I do not think the character 

1820
01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:02,200
would have been as popular if 
its name was Tony Redgrave. 

1821
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:04,480
Now I feel like Dante really 
like. 

1822
01:32:04,720 --> 01:32:10,400
The thing is, I don't know if 
they realized, like in Japan how

1823
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,600
much the Dante's Inferno is 
considered like a masterpiece of

1824
01:32:13,600 --> 01:32:16,160
Western like culture. 
But the moment you tell us the 

1825
01:32:16,160 --> 01:32:18,480
main character of the game is 
named Dante, we're immediately 

1826
01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:19,960
thinking, OK, this is about 
hell. 

1827
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,080
This is about demons, this is 
about like. 

1828
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:24,040
A volcano you. 
Know that kind of shit? 

1829
01:32:24,040 --> 01:32:26,840
It's very gothic and you did 
that joke already. 

1830
01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:28,320
I don't care. 
Do I bring it back? 

1831
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:33,760
Fucking callbacks. 
But. 

1832
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:38,680
That callback was peak Sir. 
There you go. 

1833
01:32:39,280 --> 01:32:43,120
See. 
And I got so sidetracked I 

1834
01:32:43,120 --> 01:32:45,040
forgot the other thing that I 
was going to bring up. 

1835
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:48,960
You said Tony Redgrave, and you 
said that it was originally a 

1836
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:53,840
glitch in Onimusha based on 
Somonosuke's apparently being 

1837
01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:55,480
able to still lock enemies into 
a juggle. 

1838
01:32:56,400 --> 01:33:00,080
Oh, I remember now. 
So the fun fact, we covered 

1839
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:03,120
those. 
But the other thing was just the

1840
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:09,040
ridiculous skill ceiling for 
this game, because this game was

1841
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:12,920
notoriously difficult. 
It has the moment after you've 

1842
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:17,440
died so many times where it will
pop up a dialogue box giving you

1843
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:21,080
the option to switch to easy 
automatic mode, which is 

1844
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:26,160
essentially like, you know, on 
that show hot ones at where 

1845
01:33:26,160 --> 01:33:28,160
they're going through the 
progressively hotter. 

1846
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:32,200
And then they get to the last 
dab where he says now it's 

1847
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:34,240
optional. 
You can put a little extra of 

1848
01:33:34,240 --> 01:33:37,840
this super super lava sauce on 
your wing. 

1849
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:42,600
You don't have to though. 
But the implication is he's 

1850
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,240
calling you a bitch if you 
don't. 

1851
01:33:45,320 --> 01:33:48,040
Yeah, I feel like the game is 
calling me a bitch when it says 

1852
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:49,400
do you want to switch to easy 
mode? 

1853
01:33:51,200 --> 01:33:52,120
Would you like to? 
Turn the. 

1854
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:56,080
Difficulty down. 
But you when you beat normal, 

1855
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,000
you unlock Hard. 
When you beat hard mode, you 

1856
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:03,280
unlock Dante MO's die mode. 
In Dante MO's die mode, if you 

1857
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:06,800
don't defeat the enemies fast 
enough, they Devil trigger. 

1858
01:34:07,240 --> 01:34:10,440
Oh shit. 
And if I'm not mistaken, in the 

1859
01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:14,120
first Devil May Cry you have to 
be in Devil Trigger to actually 

1860
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:17,440
damage devil triggered enemies 
to be able to kill them. 

1861
01:34:17,960 --> 01:34:22,360
So it turns into a time trial. 
You got to kill them quick or 

1862
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,400
they're going to fuck up shit. 
But beating that will give you 

1863
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:29,720
Super Dante which lets you have 
infinite Devil Trigger, and I 

1864
01:34:29,720 --> 01:34:33,920
think that's also how you unlock
the secret Sparta skin which 

1865
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:38,560
will give you the Yamato, which 
it's a Cortana. 

1866
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:41,840
It has the same properties as 
the Alistair sword, but you 

1867
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,160
start off the game with it 
instead of having to unlock it. 

1868
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:47,800
So you've got Devil Trigger and 
the lightning abilities from the

1869
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,640
get go. 
And that also makes sense that 

1870
01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:51,760
this game was spawned from 
Onimusha, that they put a 

1871
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:54,960
Cortana in there. 
But I think that this game's 

1872
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,720
biggest failing, which I'm going
to throw up a little, they fixed

1873
01:34:57,720 --> 01:35:03,680
in #2 mission select. 
Because in this game, if you are

1874
01:35:03,680 --> 01:35:07,080
banging your head against this 
mission for difficulty or 

1875
01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:09,080
whatever, you're just stuck 
there. 

1876
01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:13,760
Starting from 2 forward, you 
have the option to go back and 

1877
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:16,800
play earlier missions to grind 
out some red orbs to get some 

1878
01:35:16,800 --> 01:35:21,600
out of back or that would have 
been upgrade your skills to get 

1879
01:35:21,720 --> 01:35:23,680
more. 
Whereas in this when you're just

1880
01:35:23,680 --> 01:35:26,960
kind of stuck and if you miss a 
secret mission, guess what? 

1881
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,920
You get to play the whole game 
again and try and wrap back 

1882
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:31,800
around. 
If you're trying to get that 

1883
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:35,840
perfect score sheet of all S 
ranks, you fucked it up. 

1884
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,000
Guess what you get to go all the
way back around. 

1885
01:35:38,160 --> 01:35:42,600
So for people who want to just 
master the game and get all the 

1886
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:48,680
shit Devil May Cry 1 early entry
growing pains, it set a standard

1887
01:35:48,680 --> 01:35:52,400
that the second one failed and 
then the third one exceeded and 

1888
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:53,960
they've carried that torch 
forward. 

1889
01:35:54,120 --> 01:35:56,320
So that's that's what I wanted 
to say on it. 

1890
01:35:56,480 --> 01:35:59,760
And if y'all guys continue on 
with this franchise and play 

1891
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:02,400
later games, I strongly suggest 
just passing 2. 

1892
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,280
But that's the one I have 
nostalgia for, Dame. 

1893
01:36:05,440 --> 01:36:10,280
I love you but but you're wrong 
and now that you've played 

1894
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:15,520
number one you're going to 
realize how bad they messed up 

1895
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:19,200
to going back to it. 
Fair enough, fair enough. 

1896
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,360
It'll be it'll be interesting to
do that for sure. 

1897
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:26,720
I will say but. 3 is also where 
the story actually really starts

1898
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:30,480
and it it's predictable. 
It's melodramatic anime 

1899
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:33,520
nonsense, but it's fun. 
Hey, I'm all about fun 

1900
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:37,120
melodramatic anime nonsense. 
I do love Persona games. 

1901
01:36:38,280 --> 01:36:43,280
I I will say my most common rank
was B I got to be a lot. 

1902
01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:47,280
I did get a couple's and I got a
C at one level because I did not

1903
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:50,280
do very well but. 
I've never hidden S rank, didn't

1904
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,000
even know you could do that on 
normal mode. 

1905
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:57,640
I it was kind of averaging CS 
and got some BS and DS. 

1906
01:36:59,360 --> 01:37:02,920
One thing though, I did notice 
it because I played it so badly 

1907
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,840
because I did have kind of the 
limp controller for a while. 

1908
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,600
I did end up restarting the game
twice because I spent basically 

1909
01:37:09,600 --> 01:37:12,880
all my yellow orbs way too early
and later on in the game it's 

1910
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,360
not that big of a problem 
because you get red orbs in such

1911
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:18,440
quantity that you can buy yellow
orbs and it's not that big of a 

1912
01:37:18,440 --> 01:37:20,640
problem. 
But if you use all your yellow 

1913
01:37:20,640 --> 01:37:23,080
orbs on like the first couple 
missions, it is kind of a 

1914
01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:24,720
problem. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1915
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:27,840
And if you explore really good, 
you can stumble across some. 

1916
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:31,840
They're not very common though. 
Yeah, you do find a few, but 

1917
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,400
just early on and like if you're
dying a couple times in a 

1918
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,560
starter level, maybe it's better
to restart the level. 

1919
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:42,400
Yeah, I would agree with that. 
I also learned the hard way that

1920
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:45,280
you can save at any time, but 
you're not going to start back 

1921
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:49,840
where you're at. 
You're going to start back at 

1922
01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:51,680
the beginning of the mission, 
God damn it. 

1923
01:37:52,280 --> 01:37:54,760
But again. 
And did anybody else get old 

1924
01:37:54,760 --> 01:38:00,720
anime vibes of Dante is Bash the
Stampede throwing in a blender 

1925
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:04,160
with Inuyasha and then Legato 
stuck on top? 

1926
01:38:04,840 --> 01:38:06,760
In terms of design, I can 
totally see. 

1927
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:08,920
That design wise it. 
Gave me a because. 

1928
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:12,640
You got color guns? 
You got the evil twin, you got 

1929
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:16,880
the sword that starts off kind 
of weak but then transforms into

1930
01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:21,400
a massive demon blade later. 
You're not wrong. 

1931
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:23,760
Maybe sprinkle in a dash of 
Trinity blood. 

1932
01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:26,600
Yeah. 
All right, dude, let's do a 

1933
01:38:26,600 --> 01:38:28,360
let's do some ratings, my good 
gentleman. 

1934
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:33,040
I thought this was a solid game.
I think that there is room for 

1935
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:36,040
improvement because you know, 
again, this was the the 1st in 

1936
01:38:36,040 --> 01:38:39,360
this the series and it's gone on
to do bigger and better things 

1937
01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,400
since. 
Fun, very short. 

1938
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:46,280
I think I cleared it in four 
hours, 3 1/2 hours, four hours, 

1939
01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:50,400
something like that. 
But man, after playing like 

1940
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:54,600
Metal Gear Revengeance going 
back to this, it definitely 

1941
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,960
showed its age in a few 
different ways and I'm going to 

1942
01:38:57,960 --> 01:39:04,400
give it a solid 7 1/2 Dante's 
out of 10 infernos. 

1943
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:10,200
Red Riding Hood, what about you?
Yeah, sorry, I have my hood up 

1944
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:13,040
because I saw a ladybug flying 
around in my room and if it 

1945
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:15,360
lands on my neck I'm going to 
freak out and act weird. 

1946
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:18,160
So I'm just going to have a hood
up. 

1947
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,440
I, I mean, I feel like there 
were a couple issues in terms 

1948
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:27,320
of, I really feel like this 
game's control scheme is pretty 

1949
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,000
much like the opposite of 
ergonomic. 

1950
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:32,600
Like this game will hurt your 
wrist to play. 

1951
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,880
Yeah, I'll agree with that. 
Yeah. 

1952
01:39:35,960 --> 01:39:40,920
OG had triangle for jump so. 
Yeah, I, I did end up looking up

1953
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,000
some FAQs to get past a couple 
things where I'm like, am I not 

1954
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:46,520
doing the right thing? 
And usually it was like, oh, you

1955
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:48,520
are doing the right thing, 
you're just suddenly doing it 

1956
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:52,400
wrong. 
But so yeah, I saw like triangle

1957
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,800
for jump and I'm like, what the 
fuck is that? 

1958
01:39:55,280 --> 01:39:59,480
But ultimately, I felt like it 
was. 

1959
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:04,040
Like I this is where this genre 
comes from. 

1960
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,520
This is the birth of the 
character action genre. 

1961
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:11,040
And it's like you can see where 
Hideki Kamiya, like where he 

1962
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:15,040
immediately came out bursting 
with the ideas like taking the 

1963
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:18,920
genre that wasn't really 3D 
games until now, like these kind

1964
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,120
of 2D beat em UPS and making 
them into a 3D genre that 

1965
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:26,240
actually worked. 
I think this game is necessary 

1966
01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:30,800
and Seminole, I do think that 
it's probably outclassed by a 

1967
01:40:30,800 --> 01:40:35,480
lot of its descendants, but I 
had a lot of fun playing it. 

1968
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:39,880
It shows its age in some ways, 
but it also shows why it is the 

1969
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,480
beginning of its time in others.
And I'm going to go ahead and 

1970
01:40:42,480 --> 01:40:46,440
give it 8 circles of hell out of
10. 

1971
01:40:46,440 --> 01:40:49,280
The 10th Circle of Hell is of 
course having to play Blur Witch

1972
01:40:49,280 --> 01:40:55,840
for the podcast. 
Oh man fucking hilarious. 

1973
01:40:56,920 --> 01:41:00,880
He's not bitter. 
I'm the only one that finished 

1974
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,040
it. 
I have the right I was. 

1975
01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,560
Going to say he finished it. 
He's very bitter. 

1976
01:41:05,560 --> 01:41:07,600
And they have the right to be 
bitter, too, because they were 

1977
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,040
expecting me to record with him.
And I'm like, no, not till I'll 

1978
01:41:10,040 --> 01:41:13,120
beat this game. 
But I'm going to give it a 

1979
01:41:13,120 --> 01:41:14,800
chance. 
Give it a chance to redeem 

1980
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,120
itself. 
Because boy oh boy, when I talk 

1981
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:20,040
about it, I don't want anyone to
be able to say Boo about what I 

1982
01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:22,720
think. 
But you didn't even see the 

1983
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:25,160
ending. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1984
01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:30,920
Dane, what's your rating, man? 
Oh it is so hard to be unbiased 

1985
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:35,080
with this game because I have 
loved it for more than half of 

1986
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,040
my life. 
Like Willie mentioned, you know,

1987
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:42,120
this essentially established the
subgenre of character action, 

1988
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:47,080
which is still in very 
unfortunately niche, an 

1989
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:50,880
underdeveloped style of game. 
Yeah, because it's basically at 

1990
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,680
this point, Devil May Cry and 
Platinum Games. 

1991
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,400
And yeah. 
Platinum Games basically is. 

1992
01:41:56,400 --> 01:41:58,520
No. 
Well, that's the the one that's 

1993
01:41:58,520 --> 01:41:59,840
made by the guy. 
That's strange. 

1994
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,000
No more heroes. 
No more heroes, yeah. 

1995
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:05,480
Yeah, I would put that in there 
as well, because that's a Travis

1996
01:42:05,480 --> 01:42:07,360
hero or whatever his name is, is
very character. 

1997
01:42:07,360 --> 01:42:08,800
Travis Touchdown. 
Travis Touchdown. 

1998
01:42:09,680 --> 01:42:11,880
Never played that one, I'm I 
actually have to check it out. 

1999
01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:16,040
Yeah, I only know of it through 
a cultural osmosis, but from 

2000
01:42:16,040 --> 01:42:17,960
what I know of it, that's 
another kind of character action

2001
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,640
game because it's very based on 
him being the main character. 

2002
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:25,120
And of course, you know, Metal 
Gear Rising is also in the same 

2003
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,720
category, but we've. 
You know some work on Metal Gear

2004
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:30,640
Rising. 
Yeah, they're, I'm pretty sure 

2005
01:42:30,640 --> 01:42:32,960
they were the ones who had to 
bring it over the end. 

2006
01:42:34,280 --> 01:42:36,000
Yeah, Devil May Metal Gear 
Automata. 

2007
01:42:36,200 --> 01:42:37,880
Yeah. 
Tajima may cry. 

2008
01:42:37,880 --> 01:42:40,240
Yeah, I think that was a joke. 
He. 

2009
01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:45,320
Used for that. 
So but taking off the nostalgia 

2010
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:49,680
goggles, but also allowing for 
the fact that it was a 

2011
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:53,280
trailblazer for the genre and 
established so many of the 

2012
01:42:53,280 --> 01:42:55,560
tropes. 
It hurts my heart. 

2013
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:59,720
But 8 melodramatic screams out 
of 10. 

2014
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:01,240
Filling your Dark Souls with 
LAT. 

2015
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:06,480
Yeah, dude. 
So I'm, I'm with Willy on that 

2016
01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:08,480
one, yeah. 
I'm glad that you were the 1 to 

2017
01:43:08,480 --> 01:43:11,720
fill our Dark Souls with light. 
I still fucking love this game. 

2018
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:13,760
It's a 10 out of 10 in my heart.
Just. 

2019
01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:16,760
Because of the franchise. 
I get that just fucking blast to

2020
01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,040
play. 
Like even though it is dated, I 

2021
01:43:19,040 --> 01:43:22,640
feel like if you spend enough a 
couple hours with it to get over

2022
01:43:22,640 --> 01:43:25,600
the datedness of it, you will 
have a good time with it. 

2023
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:29,280
It's not like Tomb Raider where 
I'm like I could see why someone

2024
01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,680
would like this. 
It's more a long lines of no I'm

2025
01:43:31,960 --> 01:43:33,920
I'm having fun. 
Willy, I was literally about to 

2026
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:37,440
say, say, Dane, take the feeling
that you have right now, minus 

2027
01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:40,840
it by about four of me and 
Willie liking it. 

2028
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:43,320
And that's how I was when I 
played Tomb Raider with the 

2029
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:46,160
boys. 
And I was like, I fucking love 

2030
01:43:46,160 --> 01:43:47,160
this game. 
What did you guys think? 

2031
01:43:47,160 --> 01:43:49,720
And they're like, it's it's a 
game. 

2032
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:52,880
It's it's I'm like fuck, man, I 
fuck. 

2033
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,520
But I have a ton of nostalgia 
with that so. 

2034
01:43:56,120 --> 01:43:58,760
I still have faith that we're 
going to find a a Tomb Raider 

2035
01:43:58,760 --> 01:44:01,000
game I like. 
I still like Laura Croft. 

2036
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:06,040
I want to be on an adventure 
with her and I no judgement just

2037
01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:09,960
because a bad remaster and a 
reboot that I wasn't fond of 

2038
01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,600
didn't quite work out for me. 
Yeah, and I would, I would 

2039
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:14,520
really. 
I look forward to the two new 

2040
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:17,960
games coming out because they 
look much more in the old form 

2041
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,560
of Laura, especially since the 
one is the remake of 1. 

2042
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:22,040
So there's going to be 
dinosaurs. 

2043
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,200
That could be really cool. 
It's going to be great, but all 

2044
01:44:25,200 --> 01:44:29,200
right, man. 
So we were doing the short game,

2045
01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,160
the retro game, and then Claire 
Obscure. 

2046
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:34,560
So we've gotten the short game 
done with Devil May Cry. 

2047
01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:42,080
That means that in two weeks we 
will be back chatting about Tex 

2048
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:45,160
Murphy under a killing moon, and
I am. 

2049
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:48,440
Again, that you've been very 
excited to encounter on this 

2050
01:44:48,440 --> 01:44:51,920
show for a long time, a genre 
that we've wanted to crack into 

2051
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:54,680
more. 
Brother, it's our first. 

2052
01:44:54,920 --> 01:44:57,080
Well, I guess missed was 
technically our first, but this 

2053
01:44:57,080 --> 01:45:00,040
is our first FMV point and 
click. 

2054
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:01,960
Well, shivers too would have 
been. 

2055
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:06,680
Yeah, Shivers would have been, 
but that episode is lost to the 

2056
01:45:06,720 --> 01:45:11,480
ages. 
So yeah, I I am, I am very 

2057
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:12,840
excited. 
This should be fun. 

2058
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,040
All of the jank. 
It could be that we hate this 

2059
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:16,600
game and we're just going to 
tear it apart. 

2060
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:18,920
But I just have this feeling 
that this game is going to be 

2061
01:45:18,920 --> 01:45:21,800
very charming because they made 
a bunch of Tex Murphy games and 

2062
01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:24,080
I believe they're detective 
style games. 

2063
01:45:24,080 --> 01:45:27,240
So it's going to be a good time.
I thought this was the first Tex

2064
01:45:27,240 --> 01:45:29,680
Murphy game, but I don't think 
it actually is. 

2065
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,400
In fact, I'm going to look that 
up really quick. 

2066
01:45:31,480 --> 01:45:35,680
Yeah, so this is actually the 
third game, which we can talk 

2067
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,960
about more next next episode. 
But I didn't realize that 

2068
01:45:38,960 --> 01:45:40,800
Martian Memorandum came out 
before this. 

2069
01:45:41,120 --> 01:45:44,520
It was funny when I was doing 
the the Retro List, which I'll 

2070
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,920
talk about the poll here in just
a second about Otto's doing the 

2071
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,640
Retro List and putting together 
all of my GOG games. 

2072
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,880
There are a lot of old games 
that have the word Martian in 

2073
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:55,320
the title. 
Like that was a thing in the 90s

2074
01:45:55,320 --> 01:46:00,320
to have Martian. 
Martian Gothic man, that's the 

2075
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:01,800
only one I could name for some 
reason. 

2076
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,400
Oh, I don't have my GOG open. 
Hold on, there was. 

2077
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:07,040
Well, there's the there's the 
Mars adjacent one. 

2078
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,320
Was it leather sex goddesses of 
Phobos or? 

2079
01:46:11,440 --> 01:46:14,360
Leather, shit leather. 
Yeah, leather goddesses of 

2080
01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,200
Phobos. 
Oh, just leather goddess of 

2081
01:46:16,200 --> 01:46:17,640
Phobos. 
Believe so, yes. 

2082
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:23,520
That's an Infocom also had one 
of the more clever moments in a 

2083
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:27,800
game I'd ever seen where the 
first scene or early on in the 

2084
01:46:27,800 --> 01:46:31,760
game but asks you to you're in a
bar, I think, and it asks you to

2085
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:34,000
pick which bathroom you go in, 
and that's how it determines 

2086
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:36,160
what sex your character is 
addressed by for the rest of the

2087
01:46:36,160 --> 01:46:38,080
game. 
That is a pretty neat move. 

2088
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,320
OK, so you you're just trying to
be a perv and it's like, Oh no, 

2089
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:43,600
you're a chick. 
Fair enough. 

2090
01:46:44,440 --> 01:46:47,480
Maybe there were just two in my 
GOG library and I just for some 

2091
01:46:47,480 --> 01:46:50,160
reason thought that was a lot, 
but Tex Murphy 2 Martian 

2092
01:46:50,160 --> 01:46:53,880
Memorandum and then Ultima 
Worlds of Adventure 2 Martian 

2093
01:46:53,880 --> 01:46:56,720
Dreams. 
Anyways, that is a little side 

2094
01:46:56,720 --> 01:47:01,600
tangent because Dane's here so 
because we're doing text Murphy,

2095
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:04,200
that means that we got a new 
short poll up on the discord. 

2096
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:08,880
And if you want to check out the
discord bit dot LY TSMP discord 

2097
01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,840
all capital letters. 
You'll hear that again once more

2098
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:13,640
just here in a few seconds, but 
the retro poll on there right 

2099
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:16,680
now go join the discord and 
throw it a vote. 

2100
01:47:16,720 --> 01:47:22,840
Your choices are jagged alliance
1 empire earth fantasy wars, 

2101
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:26,880
silver Summoner or a vampire 
story. 

2102
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:30,400
Now a vampire story point and 
click game pretty sure might be 

2103
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:33,680
like an adventure style game, 
Summoner action adventure game. 

2104
01:47:33,680 --> 01:47:38,240
Silver believe plays like Diablo
and then if I'm remembering 

2105
01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:41,520
correctly Fantasy Wars, Empire, 
Earth and Jagged Alliance are 

2106
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:45,000
all. 
What's like D&D type? 

2107
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:50,440
No CRPGS like tactical RTSS? 
Yeah, thank you. 

2108
01:47:50,480 --> 01:47:51,800
RTS. 
They're like RTS style. 

2109
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:55,120
Tetris clones. 
Yeah, they're other Tetris 

2110
01:47:55,120 --> 01:47:57,760
clones. 
They they're clones of Tetris, 

2111
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:01,840
Hetris and Wetris. 
But so far, looking at that 

2112
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:05,320
poll, it looks like Empire Earth
is winning at the moment. 

2113
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:06,760
So we'll see. 
We'll see. 

2114
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,680
So Dane. 
I don't know if I voted in that 

2115
01:48:09,680 --> 01:48:10,480
one yet. 
You have. 

2116
01:48:10,480 --> 01:48:12,040
We'll see if I can ruin it for 
everyone. 

2117
01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:16,840
No, you have not voted yet. 
So far it's been me, Connor, 

2118
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:20,240
Adam and Jeff Dane. 
Before I go through the the show

2119
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:22,960
notes and stuff. 
Plug Plug what you need to plug 

2120
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:28,040
man. 
So if you really like my Wiener 

2121
01:48:28,040 --> 01:48:33,520
jokes and my tangential stories 
and my hammer time, you can get 

2122
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:37,640
more of me at Dana and Jeff's 
Media Dump available where all 

2123
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:40,940
fine podcasts are sold. 
Where me and my grumpy Duck Co 

2124
01:48:40,940 --> 01:48:44,520
host and some asshole named 
Dalton usually talk about some 

2125
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,200
random movie that we watched 
this the past week. 

2126
01:48:47,240 --> 01:48:50,800
And right now we are in the 
middle of Russell Fest in honor 

2127
01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:54,520
of the great Kurt Russell. 
Because we totally planned it 

2128
01:48:54,520 --> 01:48:56,560
out this month. 
It is his birthday. 

2129
01:48:56,720 --> 01:48:57,880
I don't remember what day 
though. 

2130
01:48:58,080 --> 01:49:00,600
I just know it's this month. 
So come check us out. 

2131
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:05,280
We just did Bone Tomahawk 
courtesy of Dalton, and our next

2132
01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:08,240
one up is was It Overboard? 
Yeah. 

2133
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:09,920
And I just remembered that I 
need to source that. 

2134
01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:11,040
So that's all I'm looking right 
now. 

2135
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:14,120
That's the make sure it came out
in 1987 I'm assuming. 

2136
01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:15,880
I think so. 
Goldie Hawn. 

2137
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,520
Yeah, I'll figure it out. 
And I'll wrestle this month, so 

2138
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:22,680
come check us out, Russell. 
Mania. 

2139
01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,520
Oh my God. 
Oh, we haven't made that joke 

2140
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:25,840
yet. 
Oh. 

2141
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:28,920
My God, why don't we call it? 
Fucking fools. 

2142
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:32,960
All right, I take it back. 
We are doing WrestleMania this 

2143
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:35,760
month. 
Oh, Willie. 

2144
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:37,960
Yeah, that's. 
Fucking I am changing the name. 

2145
01:49:40,120 --> 01:49:43,120
I I genuinely can't believe we 
didn't get here. 

2146
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:44,680
I can't believe we didn't. 
I'm glad. 

2147
01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:46,840
I'm glad I was here for you 
boys. 

2148
01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:53,000
Thank you God damn WrestleMania,
especially with as much as I 

2149
01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:55,040
talk about wrestling with Dane 
on a daily basis. 

2150
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:56,840
How the fuck did we not come up 
with that? 

2151
01:49:58,240 --> 01:50:02,080
I heard the term Russell Fest 
used once and that's where I got

2152
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:06,320
the idea to do it at all with 
Nick Cage and it has been so 

2153
01:50:06,320 --> 01:50:09,760
lodged in as the default I was 
blind to the obvious. 

2154
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:13,720
Shout out to Willie for the for 
the good name. 

2155
01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:14,680
Yeah, WrestleMania. 
That's. 

2156
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:17,240
Thank you. 
You just you, you made us a 

2157
01:50:17,240 --> 01:50:18,600
little bit more professional 
with that. 

2158
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:23,440
I do what I must because I can. 
You know Finn is always putting 

2159
01:50:23,440 --> 01:50:27,280
us on blast because our pun game
is so weak over on media dump. 

2160
01:50:28,280 --> 01:50:30,760
And now we got. 
I like it, we're using it. 

2161
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:34,320
Feel free dude, you have my full
blessing. 

2162
01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:37,200
Yeah, go check out Dane and 
Jess. 

2163
01:50:37,200 --> 01:50:39,000
Media done for sure. 
It was a good time over there. 

2164
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:40,640
Willie. 
You got anything you wanna plug 

2165
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:42,920
for once the show notes? 
Shout outs to Mick for sending 

2166
01:50:42,920 --> 01:50:44,880
me that 8 bit to a controller 
man it's good. 

2167
01:50:46,280 --> 01:50:50,480
Thanks for taking a week off and
not straining yourself because 

2168
01:50:50,720 --> 01:50:53,000
you knew the timing would be bad
for you on the podcast. 

2169
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:57,640
Like we had a cool Co host, you 
did not need to overdo it and 

2170
01:50:58,120 --> 01:51:00,800
come back when you're ready bro.
Is there? 

2171
01:51:01,080 --> 01:51:02,040
All right? 
Then that just leaves. 

2172
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,240
This show is not an obligation 
for anyone. 

2173
01:51:04,240 --> 01:51:07,200
This is a fun time. 
It's not an obligation for 

2174
01:51:07,200 --> 01:51:11,480
anybody but me. 
Even if we would probably find a

2175
01:51:11,480 --> 01:51:13,040
way to do it. 
Oh yeah, no, no, no. 

2176
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:14,400
If I, if I couldn't make it, I 
would. 

2177
01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:17,080
I'm saying that like I feel the 
need to get the show out. 

2178
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:19,360
Yeah, I would totally show it. 
Hallucinate you. 

2179
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:23,040
If you had to delegate one week,
then we could probably figure 

2180
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,920
out something to do. 
Yeah, well if that day ever 

2181
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,880
comes, we'll chat about it. 
I would rather get something out

2182
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:32,280
instead of missing and a 
release. 

2183
01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:34,320
So yeah, that'd be more my thing
anyway. 

2184
01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:39,880
Yeah, if you would please leave 
us a review wherever you get 

2185
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:42,200
your podcast. 5 star review 
really would mean a lot. 

2186
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:45,280
It helps us in the algorithm, 
helps people find the show, and 

2187
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:48,640
it brings new people in to maybe
come and join in the Discord and

2188
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:50,240
stuff like that. 
I can't believe that we've got 

2189
01:51:50,240 --> 01:51:52,520
like 100 members in there. 
That baffles me. 

2190
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:55,800
Yeah, Five star review, iTunes 
and Spotify. 

2191
01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:59,360
If you leave a five star review 
on iTunes with a with a little 

2192
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,040
description or the comment or 
whatever the review I suppose it

2193
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:04,520
would be, I'll read it. 
We just don't get them that 

2194
01:52:04,520 --> 01:52:05,800
often. 
I think the last one we got was 

2195
01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:08,920
in 2023. 
So people don't really use 

2196
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,800
iTunes all that much apparently,
or at least not for listening to

2197
01:52:11,800 --> 01:52:13,440
us. 
But we do appreciate the 

2198
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:15,880
reviews. 
Check us out over on Discord. 

2199
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:17,440
Because I'm awful at social 
media. 

2200
01:52:17,440 --> 01:52:21,120
I've pretty much given up on it 
to be completely honest, so 

2201
01:52:21,560 --> 01:52:24,720
check this out join the discord,
that's where all the cool stuff 

2202
01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:28,120
happens bit dot LY slash TSMP 
discord. 

2203
01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:31,440
All capital letters will get you
an invite in and you can come in

2204
01:52:31,440 --> 01:52:34,800
and join in on the shenanigans 
Vote on the polls, which let's 

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01:52:34,800 --> 01:52:37,200
do a quick run update. 
We talked about the short or the

2206
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:38,680
retro polls. 
We don't have to talk about that

2207
01:52:38,680 --> 01:52:41,520
one, but the current long poll 
got some bangers on there. 

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01:52:42,280 --> 01:52:47,360
We got Jade Empire, X4 
Foundations, Far Cry 5, The 

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01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:53,080
Forest, and Star Sand Island 
which is a new like a Stardew 

2210
01:52:53,080 --> 01:52:56,320
Valley esque game but with like 
Genshin like graphics. 

2211
01:52:56,320 --> 01:52:59,240
I don't know how to describe it.
Overwhelmingly right now, Star 

2212
01:52:59,240 --> 01:53:01,600
Sand Island winning. 
Feel like everyone's just 

2213
01:53:01,600 --> 01:53:04,240
throwing us a cozy game and I 
appreciate that. 

2214
01:53:04,320 --> 01:53:07,720
I, I, I didn't realize we had 
that many fans of her on the 

2215
01:53:07,720 --> 01:53:08,920
show. 
Barbara Star. 

2216
01:53:08,920 --> 01:53:12,000
Sand, Barbara. 
Hey, that's a curse word, Sir. 

2217
01:53:12,280 --> 01:53:15,360
You watch your mouth. 
Now you're going to guarantee it

2218
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:17,000
wins. 
It's the Star Sand effect all 

2219
01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:20,920
over again. 
I was thinking of star sand 

2220
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:23,360
effect is my joke but I thought 
that one might be too subtle, so

2221
01:53:23,360 --> 01:53:27,720
thank you. 
You know, this is this is fucked

2222
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:30,640
up, but it makes me think of it.
The Family Guy movie from back 

2223
01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:33,920
in the day when Peter goes on 
the rant to the dude at the 

2224
01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:36,600
video store when he says, you 
know, where in the Bible does it

2225
01:53:36,600 --> 01:53:39,040
say a man can't bust off some 
knuckle children in the privacy 

2226
01:53:39,040 --> 01:53:41,080
of his own neighbor's living 
room while his neighbors at work

2227
01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:42,400
because I don't have a DVD 
player. 

2228
01:53:42,760 --> 01:53:44,520
I don't know where that says 
that in the Bible, Sir. 

2229
01:53:44,520 --> 01:53:46,200
Cause the Bible is way too long 
to read. 

2230
01:53:46,400 --> 01:53:50,440
And he, but what causes him to 
say that? 

2231
01:53:50,440 --> 01:53:51,440
Because that's burning into my 
brain. 

2232
01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:53,720
But what causes him to say that 
is he's like, well, we're a 

2233
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,600
Christian establishment now. 
We're no longer a, your normal 

2234
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,960
video store where this mock 
muster or whatever it was. 

2235
01:54:00,240 --> 01:54:01,720
And we don't have stuff like 
that. 

2236
01:54:01,880 --> 01:54:04,200
And he goes, we only carry 
Christian movies And he goes, 

2237
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:06,400
you carry Barbra Streisand 
movies. 

2238
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:09,400
And the guy goes, we edit some 
of our movies and it shows a 

2239
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:12,040
clip of Barbra Streisand and her
nose is blurred out. 

2240
01:54:12,920 --> 01:54:16,040
And it's like one of the dumbest
but funniest jokes. 

2241
01:54:17,120 --> 01:54:19,600
Like it's one of those times 
where it's like Family Guy has a

2242
01:54:19,600 --> 01:54:21,280
lot of misses, but when they 
hit, they hit. 

2243
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:23,040
And that one's just really 
stupidly funny. 

2244
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,640
But yeah, So anyway, Star Sand 
Island overwhelmingly winning 

2245
01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:29,200
that poll. 
And then the short poll that 

2246
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:32,480
just went up the other day, we 
got Crash Bandicoot 2, Cortex 

2247
01:54:32,480 --> 01:54:37,920
Strikes Back, the Darkness 2, 
Yotan Valhalla Edition On Guard 

2248
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:41,000
and the King of Fighters 13 
global match. 

2249
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:44,440
And Crash Bandicoot 2 is winning
that much to the joy of me and 

2250
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:46,200
my childhood. 
Plus, I think we all had a 

2251
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:49,320
pretty good time with Crash 1. 
So you know, Crash 2 improves it

2252
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,600
a little bit and then Crash 3 
improves on that a little more. 

2253
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:54,600
So it'll it'll be a good time if
that's if that's what ends up 

2254
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,840
winning. 
But anyways, check out the 

2255
01:54:56,840 --> 01:54:58,960
website bit dot LY slash, the 
Steam Machine Podcast. 

2256
01:54:59,120 --> 01:55:01,680
Check out the Patreon if you'd 
like to donate to the show and 

2257
01:55:01,720 --> 01:55:03,920
help me keep the lights on. 
Means the world to me. 

2258
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:06,240
patreon.com/the Steam Machine 
Podcast. 

2259
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,760
You get your episodes early and 
you get the banter in the 

2260
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,240
beginning. 
That's just for the Patreon 

2261
01:55:10,240 --> 01:55:13,120
section. 
And it's got its own RSS feed 

2262
01:55:13,120 --> 01:55:15,040
that you can add to your podcast
app. 

2263
01:55:15,080 --> 01:55:17,600
It's great. 
And if you donate $10 or more a 

2264
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,240
month, you get all of that plus 
your name right on each and 

2265
01:55:20,240 --> 01:55:22,440
every episode. 
Like these wonderful people are 

2266
01:55:22,440 --> 01:55:24,160
right here. 
Nate Zaghogsworth, the 7th of 

2267
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:25,520
Juniper. 
Jeff, the original Expendable. 

2268
01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:27,800
Mr. Syllables, Old Jiffy Lube. 
Also, he is a duck. 

2269
01:55:27,800 --> 01:55:30,200
The man who erased his nickname,
now The Wolverine, formerly 

2270
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:34,240
known as Logan's Reed, AKA 
little lomaniac Eraser, Adam. 

2271
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:36,520
Shout out to his podcast, 
Spectre approved Team Retro. 

2272
01:55:36,520 --> 01:55:38,920
Check him out over on YouTube. 
Mr. Puzzles Day and himself 

2273
01:55:38,920 --> 01:55:42,120
flying Brian, Doran Gray and 
Fenris the healer from the 

2274
01:55:42,640 --> 01:55:44,800
Alabama. 
You're all very, very much 

2275
01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:47,880
appreciated. 
Shout out to WOW. 

2276
01:55:47,880 --> 01:55:49,840
I have shout out to the JRPG 
Report and shout out to the 

2277
01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:52,400
grumpy Jeff's Pro Wrestling 
Power Hour in my notes. 

2278
01:55:52,400 --> 01:55:55,240
And both of those shows are on 
hiatus, so shout out to Dane and

2279
01:55:55,240 --> 01:55:58,280
Jeff's media, Tom. 
Yeah, he's over there too. 

2280
01:55:58,360 --> 01:55:59,960
Yeah, you can catch me over 
there too. 

2281
01:56:00,280 --> 01:56:02,560
I have my fingers and a lot of 
pies. 

2282
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:06,520
Merchlink, TSP 
productions.threadless.com got 

2283
01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:09,160
some of the new Steamy logo 
merch up. 

2284
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:12,920
Really cool, I got a picture of 
an adorable little baby and and 

2285
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:15,480
a onesie with it on there today 
and it made my day. 

2286
01:56:15,680 --> 01:56:18,920
And you can make someone's day 
too with a shirt with Steamy on 

2287
01:56:18,920 --> 01:56:19,440
it. 
So check it out. 

2288
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,760
tsmpproductions.thrillist.com. 
Now the nightmare at 

2289
01:56:22,760 --> 01:56:24,400
bankcad.com. 
If you like to show music, check

2290
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,000
out the music there. 
We'll be back in two weeks to 

2291
01:56:27,000 --> 01:56:29,200
talk about Oh, and I can't 
fucking wait. 

2292
01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,960
The FMV goodness of Tex Murphy 
under a killing Moon. 

2293
01:56:33,320 --> 01:56:36,360
And until then, everybody take 
it easy.