1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,680 This week, almost the Machine podcast. 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:05,800 So a man walks into a costume party butt naked, got a girl on 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,600 his back. They say Sir, you're naked. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,760 He says no, I'm wearing a costume. 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:13,040 Well, what are you supposed to be? 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,000 I'm a turtle. Well then what? 7 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:16,600 Who is she? Her. 8 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:18,840 Oh, she's Michelle. Cue the music. 9 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,080 Hey everybody, and welcome back to another episode of the Steam 10 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,840 Machine Podcast. My name is Dalton, and joining 11 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,240 me this week is 1/2 of the Destructive. 12 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,640 Hello, it's Willie. How are you doing this finally? 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,600 I am doing well, my good Sir. I'm quite tired. 14 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,680 I've been doing a lot of yard things the past couple weeks and 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,680 my muscles are definitely letting me know that I am no 16 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:07,560 longer 20. I was asking the audience, I 17 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,320 don't care how you're doing. That's fair, but how are you 18 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:12,000 doing in service of that? You get some rest. 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:15,080 Yeah, I mean getting some rest tomorrow, I have. 20 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,560 Stay hydrated my man. I'm founding that that is like 21 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,360 one of the hugest factors you never even realize until it's 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,080 too. Far off. 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:22,760 Oh yeah. I mean, even just for doing this 24 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,240 podcast, I have bottle of water, bottle of water, bottle of 25 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,520 water, tea and a half drink Coke. 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:30,560 So. I have half of this coke left 27 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,840 and have an emergency water over here if the coke runs out. 28 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,760 Yeah, I try to stay hydrated so I don't get dry mouth while 29 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,120 we're doing the episode. I'm like, nobody wants to hear 30 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:40,640 that. Yeah, I'm the kind of guy that 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,400 always, if I can, likes to bring like a water bottle to job 32 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,880 interviews and stuff just because, hey, get a sip, your 33 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,200 mouth gets dry, kind of. It also gives you a good pause 34 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:50,000 moment. You know, I'm not too worried 35 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,200 about pauses on the podcast though 'cause we have delete 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,920 silence or Trunka Bunka. Trunka bunka, trunka bunka boom 37 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:57,360 boom. Isn't that what the I always 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:58,640 want to say? Isn't that what the guy from 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,280 fucking Dodge Fresh Randy who says no way? 40 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:03,720 Yeah. Oh, I can't believe we both went 41 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:07,480 there. But tomorrow I am going to 42 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,880 target in Gainesville. Inside of Target in Gainesville 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:14,480 there is a place called Framus Eyes, and I'm going to get some 44 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:18,960 new spectacles because I don't know if you can tell, but these 45 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:23,240 are chewed to shit from when Lilith was a little puppy and 46 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,920 they are scratched to hell and back, so I don't really remember 47 00:02:25,920 --> 00:02:30,360 what it's like to see clearly. Yep, I definitely had a pair of 48 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,080 glasses I ruined by windexing them when I couldn't find a 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,840 normal spray and it messed up the coating, so I'm kind of 50 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,720 familiar with the going around with constantly cruddy glasses 51 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:42,680 for a while. The shitty part was like 52 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,480 seriously like a week or two after I got these. 53 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,800 I used to sleep with my glasses. I would put them on the the 54 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,840 window sill and they fell off the window sill during one night 55 00:02:51,920 --> 00:02:55,720 and went between my bed and the wall frames toward the wall. 56 00:02:56,000 --> 00:03:00,200 So when I woke up the next day right here in the center on both 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,040 of them were just scratched up. So like literally where I look 58 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,640 out of is scratch to shit and and then it didn't get any 59 00:03:07,640 --> 00:03:11,960 better when Lois chewed on them. So I yeah, so that that'll be a 60 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:13,880 I'll get that done tomorrow and then I don't know when they'll 61 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:15,640 come in, but here soon I'll be able to see better. 62 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,840 So that's that'll be nice. I I'm sorry to hear that because 63 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,000 that means when we're recording the podcast and you have my 64 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,720 webcam, you'll be able to look at my horrible visage. 65 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:25,120 See your cool ass mustache better. 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,160 I it is it is looking pretty cool today, I'm going to be 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,440 honest. Yeah, man, but yeah, doing the 68 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:32,360 yard work and stuffs been been hell. 69 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:34,320 I will. I do want to tell you this 70 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,240 because I your boys dumb. So I live in the woods or I live 71 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,680 near the woods. I got woods next to me. 72 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,240 You guys have seen it. If you're in the discord, you've 73 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,760 seen pictures of it and stuff when I'm working over there and, 74 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,680 and clearing it out and things got some what they call down 75 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:53,000 here sugars in my socks. So they, they ate, they bit up 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,880 all around my ankles in my, the tops of my feet. 77 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,240 So one night I'm in here and it starts itching real bad on the 78 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:02,040 top of my foot. So my guitar amp is down here 79 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,480 and I just started rubbing the top of my foot against the side 80 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,240 of my amp with my sock and it was scratching it and it just 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,320 felt so good. And I kept doing that and I 82 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,480 ended up like, I had like a wound on the top of my foot 83 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:18,040 where I just like, sandpapered skin away doing that. 84 00:04:18,959 --> 00:04:21,160 So your boy's dumb. So that's healing now. 85 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,280 And I've got like, I've been like treating it in ointment. 86 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:26,640 It's, it's about healed now. But yeah, the the itching, it 87 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,600 wasn't worth it. I'm always sympathetic towards 88 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,240 an itchy story because I have psoriasis so I've got some spots 89 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,040 on my skin that are always dry and itchy and it silks. 90 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,880 Yeah, I, I don't know if so, when I was younger, like 91 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,560 mosquitoes used to, just like there could be like 15 people 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,240 around and they would eat the shit out of me. 93 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,160 I think it's because I was fat. That's facts. 94 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:48,160 That's facts though. They, they have scientific 95 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,360 studies that show that mosquitoes do have a preference 96 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,160 and like they, they do go after specific people. 97 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,720 Like I don't remember they said some of the genetic things, like 98 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,480 I think they said blondes are more likely to be targeted, for 99 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,200 instance. It's I didn't have blonder hair 100 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,200 when I was younger. It's definitely not anymore. 101 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:04,760 But and I'm also like fat and sugar and they're probably like 102 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,920 that fat fucks got diabetes. Let's go get his blood. 103 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:08,640 So like they. Get that Kool? 104 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,560 Aid come out for me, but like I had my mom had grabbed some 105 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:14,160 cortisone stuff because I told her I was like, dude, will you 106 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,640 just give me some anti itching cream please? 107 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:18,960 And she came home with cortisone or whatever it was and I rubbed 108 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,520 that on there and it helped like a minute amount and I'm like, 109 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:25,280 dude. So I had a miserable few days, 110 00:05:25,280 --> 00:05:27,040 but I'm all right now. How have you been doing, my good 111 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:28,760 Sir? Oh man, I've been up to a lot 112 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:29,480 lately. Actually. 113 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:31,840 Let's see, we're not even up to the. 114 00:05:31,840 --> 00:05:33,080 What have you been playing lately? 115 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:36,800 So yeah, let's see. So personal life. 116 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,320 Oh, I finished the secret project that I mentioned on the 117 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,960 show a few times, posted on the Discord. 118 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,120 So what it was was I was learning Nintendo Entertainment 119 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,280 System assembly language. So assembly language for the 120 00:05:50,280 --> 00:05:55,880 65O2 processor, specifically the 2A03 that they use in the NES, 121 00:05:55,880 --> 00:06:01,480 which doesn't have the entire 65O2 instruction set. 122 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,720 Like it doesn't allow decimal mode, which, OK, whatever. 123 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,200 I don't because I've never used it before. 124 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:11,440 I don't miss it, you know, but so I made a little program for 125 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,200 the podcast. It's just a little, it's kind of 126 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:15,680 like a screensaver, just displays a little message. 127 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,000 It has a little logo for the a little TSMP logo I drew in a 128 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,600 Sprite that just kind of bounces around the screen and changes 129 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:23,400 colors when it hits the corner and all that. 130 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,960 You can download it on the Discord if you go to the Steam 131 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:30,240 Machine chat, podcast chat, notifications. 132 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,080 I guess we could try to upload it somewhere, but I don't really 133 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,280 know where we'd want to put it, so it's probably fine just in 134 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:37,560 the I. Want you to see if you can 135 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,760 transpose that code into an active wallpaper and then upload 136 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,720 it to the steam workshop so I can download it as a active 137 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,360 wallpaper for my wallpaper engine. 138 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,120 I don't know how to use wallpaper engine, I'd have to 139 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,400 look into that. Because that was, it's super 140 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:54,160 cool and I would love to just have that as the my wallpaper on 141 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,480 my computer with just a little TSMP thing bouncing around. 142 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,200 That would be super cool. It was fun to make. 143 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,800 Like the solving assembly language problems is so 144 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,840 different too, because like a lot of it too is you have to 145 00:07:04,840 --> 00:07:09,000 know kind of where to poke the memory to put stuff because a 146 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,120 lot of it isn't, you know, you don't tell it, draw a circle or 147 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,120 whatever. You have to like copy stuff from 148 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,040 memory into the part of the CPU that addresses the PPU and then 149 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:20,920 that copies it over and all that. 150 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,520 So you have to know like all these specific locations and all 151 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,520 that. But then with the assembly you 152 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,160 can use like data statements. So at least you can list 153 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,000 everything out instead of having to, you know, you can label 154 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,520 stuff instead of having to know the exact number where 155 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,720 everything is. So it's kind of interesting 156 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:38,240 because like even the way you do basic loops and flow control, 157 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,720 I'm so used to, you know, if then statements and for loops 158 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,840 and all that. And with assembly, a lot of it's 159 00:07:44,840 --> 00:07:48,400 doing like checking a register and then breaking to a different 160 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,560 line if it's not equal and otherwise continuing dumb thing. 161 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,040 And it's going to be forever to realize, Oh yeah, you can 162 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,320 basically just constitute a for loop or a basic if else 163 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,160 statement using that. You just have to know where to 164 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:04,360 put the labels. OK, it it it's all a bit beyond 165 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,400 me but I'm trying to keep up. Well, I think one of the most 166 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:11,000 interesting things about doing the NES 2 is the NES is an 8 bit 167 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,640 system. You can only access 8 bits of 168 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,280 information at a time and like the registers only go up to 255. 169 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,800 So if you wanted to do a loop that loops more than 255 times, 170 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,960 you actually have to put a loop inside of a loop and kind of, 171 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,120 you know what I mean, Like feed it up like this one counts from 172 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,679 zero to 255 and then the next one increments by one, and then 173 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,640 you go back to 0 on the next one and keep going and all that. 174 00:08:36,039 --> 00:08:38,919 And so I've had, you know, do that to like copy background 175 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,559 information to the PPU and stuff. 176 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:45,360 You know what I want to do, I want to one night before I'm 177 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,960 going to sleep, open it up in Retroarch and have it on my 178 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,200 screen and then use OBS and record it and go to sleep and 179 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:57,000 then wake up and then have that and then upload that to YouTube 180 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,000 and then just have it be there. So like if you were like doing 181 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,920 something and like, say if you were somebody was doing a video, 182 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,200 like one of us was doing a video for something on the screen in 183 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,680 the background while you're talking, could just be that 184 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:12,040 running for people who don't have that or you know, me, I 185 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,880 could just emulate it and just have it in the background 186 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:15,360 running that. Like I was thinking too, like 187 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:20,560 have me a little 4 by 3 screen off to the side that just that 188 00:09:20,560 --> 00:09:22,880 is only I'll just pull retro arch over there and just 189 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,080 emulate. And that would just be that 190 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,360 playing all the time would just be that little thing on the 191 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:27,960 screen. It would just be like an active. 192 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,440 Just a little fun widget, yeah? Yeah, exactly. 193 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:33,160 That's. I plan like if I make more of 194 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,800 these like because it says on their Steam machine Spring 2025 195 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:38,760 for instance. So I might make like a seasonal 196 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,200 1 and they might get more complicated over time because 197 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,760 right now all this one really does is just kind of like a sky 198 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,920 and grass. And you know, I didn't even 199 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,520 really do any details in it, no. But it was still super cool. 200 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:50,000 But. I mean, it was just really cool 201 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:51,400 to see that. Like the thing that I think is 202 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,600 cool is is it doesn't use any advanced mappers or anything. 203 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:55,960 It will run on an actual Nintendo if you have like a 204 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:57,720 flash card, yeah. Which, that's pretty. 205 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,880 Rare, you know. It would be so neat to see my 206 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,880 own code running on a Nintendo. If you showed me that when I was 207 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,400 a little kid it would have blown my mind. 208 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Like even if it isn't a full game. 209 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,600 But I also I do know how to do at least control or input 210 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,760 reading and stuff like that. I don't know how to do sound 211 00:10:12,760 --> 00:10:13,680 yet. I'm going to learn that. 212 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,360 You're welcome to take any of my shit and run it through a MIDI. 213 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,160 I'll see if I could figure out some kind of way to sequence it, 214 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,800 but. Do it. 215 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,760 I did have an idea that had something to do with that. 8 bit 216 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,480 cycle manus. I. 217 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:28,920 Don't know what that would sound. 218 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,600 I was thinking something like, I don't know, you sounded like you 219 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,440 were doing sandstorm there. It might have been a little 220 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:38,160 inspiration. Let's see. 221 00:10:38,680 --> 00:10:42,440 So there's the thing. There was something else that 222 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,080 was cool that I don't immediately remember. 223 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:49,160 I got a part time job, so at least I should. 224 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,480 I'm awaiting the results of a background check, but that 225 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,600 should be trivial. So yeah, it ain't much. 226 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:56,640 It ain't a lot to talk about, but it'll keep me busy and get 227 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:59,640 me paid and you know, then I'll be able to use my spare time to 228 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:02,000 do other stuff. And hopefully having a bit more 229 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:04,480 of a schedule will make me more productive because I find I 230 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,400 often AM, you know? Yeah, I, I, I can relate to 231 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,560 that. But I've just been I've been 232 00:11:08,560 --> 00:11:11,200 hella productive for the last like when I got back from 233 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,360 Nashville or Nashville when I got back from Middle Tennessee 234 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:15,760 doing the house sitting for Nate. 235 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,920 I I had a few days where I was just kind of laying in bed 236 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,920 because I had my sleep schedule messed up and I had a stomach 237 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,280 issue that was bothering me for a little bit. 238 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,960 But after that, since I got back recovered on the waking up in a 239 00:11:26,960 --> 00:11:29,000 normal time, I've been hella productive man. 240 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,280 Finishing that Nintendo assembly language thing. 241 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,240 I'm thinking I might start a new good dough or Pico 8 projects. 242 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,640 I'm also considering doing another Nintendo assembly 243 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,880 language thing while while it's still fresh in my mind, But I 244 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,200 only have one idea for what I want to do and it's not the best 245 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,720 idea. Is it a Gadot game called Gal? 246 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:55,040 We need to have like a theme song sting every time you do 247 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,480 that freaking. Play me out, Charlie. 248 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,720 Just a. Big old hook comes and drags you 249 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,840 off the stage. Now that would be, that would be 250 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:09,880 funny if we did this live on Twitch and we had an animation 251 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:12,680 that would come in and make it look like it looped around my 252 00:12:12,680 --> 00:12:14,480 camera and then just slid it off screen. 253 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,760 That would be good. You got Gong. 254 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,840 Sorry. So many ideas and I have 0 idea 255 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:23,280 how to implement any of them but. 256 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,840 Yeah, well, you know, it just depends. 257 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:29,400 Just depends on everything. But I did have another thing, 258 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:32,840 but I think it ties into the what game you play in thing that 259 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,920 relates to you and me discussing some stuff off camera too. 260 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,840 So I think we'll just wait till we get into the what you've been 261 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,560 playing so. We we can roll into that. 262 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:44,000 I haven't really been doing much else, so just yard work, yard 263 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,280 work I. God, I've had weeks where I've 264 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,480 done less than yard. Work that's been my productivity 265 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:52,200 is making myself motivate and go outside and get some stuff done 266 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:55,040 because it is already ungodly hot. 267 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,320 It's supposed to be like 96 for two days next week or something 268 00:12:59,320 --> 00:13:00,960 like that. Yeah, Bud. 269 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,240 And that's Florida 96, too, so that's with all that humidity. 270 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,560 Too, And it ain't even summer, so like, this is going to be 271 00:13:06,560 --> 00:13:08,200 brutal. It's going to be a brutal. 272 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:11,040 There's going to be a lot of playing with Lilith inside 273 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,160 because it's too fucking hot for her little furry ass she likes. 274 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,640 To be honest, one of the one of the things is one of the reasons 275 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,760 I managed to get the game or the NES program done this week was 276 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:21,440 because you said said it ain't even summer. 277 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,680 And I'm like, it's going to be close enough to summer soon that 278 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:24,920 I won't. Don't want to put out something 279 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,960 that says spring on it. Yeah, that's fair enough. 280 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,160 Lilith's got this thing that she does, I assume, because it's so 281 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,680 fucking hot outside. Is that like during the day, 282 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:36,600 she'll go outside and she'll kind of run around a little bit 283 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:38,720 and she'll play a little bit, and then she'll come inside and 284 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:40,040 she'll lay down and she'll have a nap. 285 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,760 And then she'll get up and she'll do some stuff and she'll 286 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,520 have a nap. And then when it's dark outside, 287 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:47,440 once the sun's down, that bitch wants to go outside and play. 288 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:52,040 Play, like run till the cows come home because it's no longer 289 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:53,640 that hot. Because she's a furry little 290 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:54,320 thing. What? 291 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:55,520 What breed is she in? Shepherd. 292 00:13:55,680 --> 00:13:56,680 Australia. I was going to say, that's a 293 00:13:56,680 --> 00:13:59,720 very active dog. Oh yes, I mean it's a her dog so 294 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,640 it must be. She has the energy of like 10 of 295 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,440 me. Also listen is an Australian 296 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,040 shepherd, Isn't that what a bluey is? 297 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:09,520 I think he's an Australian Cattle Dog and as weird as it 298 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:10,720 is, there is a slight difference. 299 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,760 Cattle dogs are short haired. There's a difference with the 300 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,200 cattle and a sheep, yes. Fuck, yeah, yeah, you're right. 301 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:18,200 Now that I'm thinking, but I was thinking herding dogs. 302 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,080 But like, yeah, that's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 303 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,440 The shepherds, the long haired one and the cattle dog is short 304 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,240 haired. Okay, very similar, very similar 305 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:31,840 looking, just different coats. But yeah, in Lilith, the type of 306 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,320 dog she is is like she's double coated so she's got the so you 307 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,800 don't wanna shave them because it can fuck that up. 308 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,840 So I just I'm like baby girl, you want to play at night time, 309 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,200 That's fine. Let's play at night. 310 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,120 I've. Definitely, I've heard about 311 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,360 that for certain breeds of dogs and I can't remember who but I 312 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,160 know someone told me the exact same thing about their dog was 313 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,280 it was double coated so they couldn't really cut the hair 314 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,200 super short. And the only, the only area on 315 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:59,080 her that I trim up is around her butt because that can get a 316 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:01,720 little messy sometimes. Yeah, you got to trim the fur 317 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,000 around there a little bit. I call it her little shorts 318 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,200 because she's got so much fur on the back of her legs and then 319 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:07,960 the bottom of her legs don't that she looks like she's 320 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,080 wearing John Cena shorts. It's great. 321 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:12,400 It's it's adorable. And then when I mentioned that. 322 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:14,360 She's a cute dog. She's a very. 323 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,000 Photos of her dog is always smiling, dude. 324 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,320 And I, when I mentioned to Brandy, who's my vet friend, 325 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,880 who's that, I call it her shorts, she said, well, they 326 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,120 they do. They call them their pants in 327 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,160 like vet offices and stuff. I was like, yeah, well, it 328 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:28,400 wasn't far off then. You're a secret scientist. 329 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,800 Yeah, Oh, I'm not a secret scientist, but I did stay at a 330 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,280 Holiday Inn Express last night. I just say the secret Holiday 331 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:35,760 Inn Express. The Secret Scientist. 332 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Holiday Inn Express. It's got a Starbucks. 333 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:39,960 It's underground. Starbucks ain't underground, 334 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,760 man. Starbucks is mainstream. 335 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,680 There's a, There's a quote UN quote conspiracy theory that 336 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:50,160 there is underground tunnels under Hollywood and LA that only 337 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:53,880 the elite can use and that there is a Starbucks down there that 338 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,160 if you work at that Starbucks, you are sworn to secrecy and are 339 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,640 not allowed to tell people that you work there. 340 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,640 That's and I'm like bruh. That's weird because there are 341 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:04,360 like kind of real things that are similar enough to that. 342 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,440 Like basically that's like, was it Club 23, Edgar, Disney World, 343 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:11,600 that that actually exists? Yeah, I probably got the number 344 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:14,560 wrong, but. Yeah, the secret club place, it 345 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,720 was like I know that Disney had, like there was like a 346 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,200 restaurant. Yeah, it's like a secret. 347 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,840 Restaurant Underground, It's straight up hidden. 348 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:24,240 It's in No, it's in Cinderella's castle, At least in in Orlando, 349 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:25,280 that's where the restaurant's at. 350 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,520 It is in like you think that that big castle. 351 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,360 Whenever I talk about Disney, whenever I'm talking about 352 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:30,840 Disney, I'm talking about Orlando because I know 353 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:32,240 absolutely nothing about the. California. 354 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:34,200 Fair enough. It it is the superior of the 355 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:36,240 two. It's the bigger of the two for 356 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,720 sure. Like by a crazy margin. 357 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,120 Like the Disneyland when it's like 1 block or whatever. 358 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,080 Disney World is like 1 swamp. Yeah, Disney World is absolutely 359 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,000 massive and there's like 4 parks, but yeah, that. 360 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,200 I got it. If I ever get back, man, I got 361 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,200 to have a just a messy day of just spending all day at Epcot 362 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:56,240 in the food, the international food area. 363 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,040 You are God damn right as an adult that's one of the most 364 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,560 excited things I am about. Getting to go back to Disney at 365 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,760 some point is going to Epcot that I did not appreciate as a 366 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,839 child, other than the Norway ride, which was awesome, which I 367 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:09,599 think is now a Frozen ride, yeah. 368 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,599 Well, as a child, all I really cared about was the the big 369 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:14,079 rides. I wanted to see Space Mountain, 370 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:15,800 I want to see Splash Mountain. I want to see Big Thunder 371 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,440 Mountain Railroad. I wanted to see It's a Small 372 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,400 World. Now I'm like, dude, I want a 373 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:23,359 churro and I want to walk around and look at cool shit and I want 374 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,640 to ride the rides that my big ass can still fit on because I 375 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,840 learned going to Busch Gardens that not only am I relatively 376 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,680 too fat for some rides, but I'm also too tall. 377 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,720 Like there were some rides that legitimately the thing came down 378 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,360 and I would suck in and it would just barely hook. 379 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,840 But it's because I had to lower my shoulders and I'm like, OK, 380 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,000 this is not comfortable, but Megan wants to ride this, so 381 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,320 let's ride. So I wrote it anyway because I 382 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:50,760 was a soldier and then she dumped me after that trip. 383 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:53,640 That's a that's a whole other story though. 384 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,720 But yeah, man, we all do a TSMP meet up with go to Disney World. 385 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,880 It's the most expensive meet up ever. 386 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:02,520 Shit's so expensive. Yeah, right. 387 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:04,840 Let's have a DS and beat me up at Atlantis. 388 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,680 I was talking to my dad about that the other day. 389 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,280 I said I would love to go and and do something. 390 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,480 I said centrally it would be best to probably meet somewhere 391 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:14,920 near Nate and Willie somewhere around in there. 392 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,880 I said because I could drive up and I could pick up Dane on the 393 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,040 way through. And hell, I think if Fenris 394 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,240 wanted to come, he's in Alabama. I could like make my way to 395 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:24,800 Alabama, then over to North Carolina. 396 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,320 That would be a hell of a drive. But it would be a trip. 397 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,720 It would be a trip. You know, it's something to 398 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,840 remember and have everybody come meet up for like a, a long 399 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,880 weekend at a, like an Airbnb. You got to make sure we can get 400 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:36,000 somewhere we can cook, though. Yeah. 401 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:38,520 Yeah, yeah, because there's no way of having you over if you're 402 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,160 not cooking. Do some cooking, do some gaming, 403 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,240 that'd be fun. Hook up clone hero. 404 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:45,200 Have everybody drinking and smoking and plain clone hero. 405 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:47,280 Yeah. Oh, that sounds like a. 406 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,000 It would be super fun. Then so one, one day, one day 407 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,960 we'll do that. We'll, maybe we'll set up like 408 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,640 a, a pool if people want to chip in, OK or something. 409 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,560 For a moment, when you said set up a pool, I thought you meant 410 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,560 like, oh, we're gonna go like. I meant like, like a pool to 411 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:03,280 like chip in for the trip. So like, like people who are 412 00:19:03,480 --> 00:19:06,680 less financially inclined than others could possibly still come 413 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,760 if there was enough, like yadda, yadda, that kind of thing. 414 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,040 You know what I mean? Yeah, we'll figure it out. 415 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,880 Moment I start my new job and we'll start saving some up so I 416 00:19:12,880 --> 00:19:15,400 have something, you know, just for emergencies so. 417 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,040 Yeah, that's basically where where I'm at when I when I can 418 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,120 find something around here. Yeah, man. 419 00:19:20,120 --> 00:19:21,440 What have what you been, what you been playing? 420 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:26,400 I've been playing a lot of things lately, but because Doom, 421 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,240 Doom The Dark Ages is coming out, I've definitely been in a 422 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,160 big first person shooter kick lately. 423 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:32,360 I've. Seen that. 424 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:38,120 So yeah, I mentioned the game on the Patreon segment, but been 425 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:42,240 playing a lot of Dusk, the kind of boomer shooter about David 426 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,720 Szymanski and New Blood Interactive, kind of Quake like 427 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,120 with blood influences. And yeah, so I'd never finished 428 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:55,560 Dusk HD after it came out, like I got to E2M4, I think. 429 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,400 And then that big fight at the beginning, because that level 430 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,040 starts with this big fight at the beginning of the level 431 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,640 that's outdoors. And then there's like one room 432 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,720 at the very end that can also kill you. 433 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,320 And what would happen is I would load up the game, play that 434 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,400 level, die a couple times on the opening fight, make it to the 435 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,720 end of the level, die on the end fight with like 2 dudes left in 436 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,480 the level and just be like, I'll come back to it later. 437 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,720 And then didn't come back to it later for a while. 438 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,520 So ended up finishing from that point all the way through the 439 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:25,320 end of the game on I can take it difficulty and then after I 440 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,560 finished that I was so I had such a great time that I 441 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,040 immediately started again on a San ro Miedo difficulty with 442 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,400 intruder mode on. So you don't start off with any 443 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,240 weapons every level, you just dump back to the two sides. 444 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:43,480 Seato Miedo, I like that. Yeah, I really enjoyed Dusk. 445 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,120 I don't think I've gone back to it since the HD version popped 446 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:48,760 out, but I when we played it for the show it was that was a fun 447 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,840 romp. Yeah, the the HD version's 448 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,240 pretty cool 'cause I feel like it's kind of like how the the 449 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,520 Night Dive remaster of Quake is where it's like, it's not gonna 450 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,560 completely change the entire vibe of it, but it does make 451 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,280 things a little bit clearer while still keeping the original 452 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,920 aesthetics mostly intact. But like now, the cigar isn't 453 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,320 just 12 polygons for it's it's kind of round. 454 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,840 Fair. And then also when I was playing 455 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,760 Dusk, I played the modable version of it, which has been 456 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,600 out for a while, and I just keep forgetting to mess with it. 457 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,240 So like, for instance, you know, obviously one of the first mods 458 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,320 that came out for it was someone recreated E1M1 of Doom in it. 459 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,120 And I've got to say, out of every E1M1 Doom recreation that 460 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:31,720 I've ever played in a different engine, this has got to be the 461 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,800 first one where it doesn't feel like it's either too huge or 462 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,160 you're too slow and it takes two weeks to cross the map. 463 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:39,640 Like Dusk dude actually plays through it in a pretty 464 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,880 reasonable scale. I remember you being able to run 465 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,400 pretty quickly in dusk. You can run pretty quickly and 466 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,280 if you do strafe jump hops that it's like quake and you can keep 467 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,440 Bunny hopping and you gain speed with every jump. 468 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,560 I wonder if which? That's not a necessary technique 469 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:56,520 on I Can take it difficulty, but on San Romeo you definitely want 470 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,040 to know that. I wonder if anyone has ever 471 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:04,440 created a mod for like Skyrim or Oblivion that was a cave system 472 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:10,160 but it was laid out like E1M1 Because I know in Starfield I 473 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:15,480 got a DLC or mod but it's also like on the official mod store 474 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,320 but it was free. I don't know how to exactly 475 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:20,720 explain it, but that is Doom based and I haven't played it 476 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,920 yet. But because, you know, it's not 477 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,480 often I go back to Not often I have a hankering to play * 478 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:26,600 field, but every now and then I do. 479 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,920 Yeah, it just feels like if you wanted to play * field, you 480 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,760 could also play No Man's Sky, or you could play a different 481 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,000 Bethesda RPG first person game. Well. 482 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,080 Usually when I'm in the mood to play * field, it's like I want 483 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,280 to play something like No Man's Sky with a bit better shooting. 484 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,880 So because the the gunplay in Starfield is pretty good, I'll 485 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:43,640 give it that. It's just like everything else 486 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,160 is kind of shallow unfortunately. 487 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:50,120 But I feel like there is potential there, like mods and 488 00:22:50,120 --> 00:22:52,560 stuff there are. There is potential for that game 489 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,920 to be really cool. Yeah, I just the modding scene, 490 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,520 like apparently they gave up on it like instantly when it came 491 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,520 out because everyone started modding and they're like, I 492 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,280 don't see any way where we're going to make a good game out of 493 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,240 this. So even though it's been patched 494 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,680 a bunch by now, I think they lost that initial momentum. 495 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,160 It definitely didn't have the staying power of The Elder 496 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,880 Scrolls or Fallout for sure. Yeah, like I'm sure with 497 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,840 Oblivion people are just chomping at the bit for them to 498 00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,760 release modding tools for the remaster so that they can start 499 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,120 making ridiculous stuff. You would be correct my good 500 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:23,200 Sir, because they're already, I don't know, 1000 mods for it and 501 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,080 there aren't official mods support yet. 502 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,000 So are there isn't official about support? 503 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:28,880 That's crazy. Yeah, it's wild. 504 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,800 It's wild, man. So you have also seen you 505 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,560 jumping into Doom One and Two on Steam? 506 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,160 Yeah, so you know, while back in the discord I had this like 507 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,240 thing I posted it was like a spreadsheet from I made a 508 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,040 spreadsheet based on the thread on the Doom World forums. 509 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,000 It's basically like a get good at Doom, play these levels in 510 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,720 this order thing. And then I started playing just 511 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,080 the very beginning of it and never finished playing through 512 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:55,040 all of Doom One basically because I I wanted to start off 513 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,280 playing with Ultraviolence difficulty, which is the highest 514 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,800 of the normal difficulty is not counting Nightmare mode, which 515 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,240 on Doom 1 and 2 is basically a joke difficulty where the 516 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,680 monsters are like 3 times as fast, they respawn when you kill 517 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,680 them. But I am playing with 518 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,880 Ultraviolence with fast monsters, so it still has the 519 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,880 speed of your monsters. And that is really troubling 520 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,360 because the monster that affects the most is the pinky demon. 521 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:24,320 And the placements of pinky demons on Doom One especially do 522 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,120 not seem to have taken Ultraviolence, Fast or Nightmare 523 00:24:28,120 --> 00:24:30,200 into account. So there are a lot of levels 524 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,200 where there's just like I can't unless you actually play it. 525 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,040 It's hard for me me to explain how much faster the pinkies are. 526 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,240 But like go into Doom 1 and 2 if you have it. 527 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:46,680 Go to level let's say E3M4, open that level up and play it. 528 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,320 Just play through the 1st room on ultraviolence and then go 529 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,720 back in. Go back to the level select and 530 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,440 under options, turn on fast monsters and do it again. 531 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,560 The 1st pinky in the move room immediately runs up to you and 532 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,400 is at your face before you can even have fully moved. 533 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,680 Like more than a step or two and they run faster than you. 534 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,760 They're incredibly they attack so quickly that you can't unlock 535 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:12,080 on with a chainsaw, so you have to actually keep a distance or 536 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,240 bait them into attacking and move back really fast. 537 00:25:16,120 --> 00:25:19,480 Actually it's one of the most fun things about playing Pistol 538 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:26,880 Start Ultraviolence fast is like level E2M6 House house halls of 539 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,960 the damned. I only got back into that level 540 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,920 pretty recently and my God there's so many Peaky demons 541 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,320 moving at super speed. But the level also gives you a 542 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,960 berserk pack up front so you don't get a lot of ammo of that 543 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:41,240 level. If your pistol starting that 544 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:44,000 level you get not enough ammo to deal with everything in the 545 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:45,880 level. So the best way I found to deal 546 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,720 with it is to learn how to just get the berserk pack and punch 547 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,720 out as many of the pinky demons as you can, which makes it great 548 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,840 practice for timing those attacks. 549 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,400 And since the way I've been doing this, oh, go ahead. 550 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,320 No I was going to say like I'm just thinking about this and I 551 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,880 just suck at regular old older dooms so I can't imagine like 552 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,480 faster enemies or making things harder on myself because I 553 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,360 struggle enough as it is that's all. 554 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,200 Yeah, I think, I think for you the best way to do it would just 555 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:15,880 be to go through and play the first game. 556 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,800 Just normal ultra violence difficulty without pistol 557 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,640 starting. Just do ultra violence but carry 558 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,280 over your stuff levels and save at the beginning of each level. 559 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,240 Yeah, that. That so that way if you die, you 560 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,400 can load your save. Yeah, Because that way it'll 561 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,680 still be a little bit more challenging than playing Hurt Me 562 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,080 Plenty was like you did for the show. 563 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:35,040 But you should still be learning a little bit more about how to 564 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:37,560 deal with the monsters. And honestly, if I remember 565 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,800 watching you and Nate play on the earlier levels of Doom 2, at 566 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,480 least you were not really getting beaten by the monsters. 567 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,560 You were getting beaten by not knowing the level progression 568 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,920 and just struggling to figure out how to move forward. 569 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:50,840 And that's not going to change based on difficulty. 570 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,640 Well, there are some levels that are not as designed well as 571 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,400 others. I feel like American Mcgee's 572 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,520 levels in Doom 2, the which are most of the early levels have 573 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,480 difficult to read progression. Like the the gauntlet. 574 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,120 There's that thing where you had to hit the switch and then walk 575 00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:08,400 up the railings, the railings next to the stairways. 576 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,720 And it took forever, I think, for you guys to realize that, 577 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,080 that that that railing had become a bridge basically. 578 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,280 Yeah, that's the exact moment I'm thinking of in my head, 579 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,280 yeah. It that's it's very poor 580 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,760 progression, I think that's one of the worst design. 581 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:19,560 Level. How did how did that 582 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,160 motherfucker go from that to the Alice games? 583 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,520 Which rule? I mean, I guess he learned 584 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:26,680 something. I'm working on those you. 585 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:30,040 Know and also just the name American McKee is so badass. 586 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,240 It's the oddest thing is that that is his birth certificate 587 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,200 name. That is not like a nickname or 588 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,480 anything like that. His parents named his ass 589 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,720 American. It'd be really funny. 590 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,280 If you like. You know, like European and his 591 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:44,400 name's American. Oh, like when you run into 592 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,160 someone who's from Spain and her name is Francois. 593 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:47,560 It's. Like, oh, your name's France. 594 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:48,600 Cool. Congratulations. 595 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,920 Yeah, Francis. Yeah. 596 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,600 Oh, Fran, Yeah. I shouldn't say if you're an 597 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,880 American named Francis, because that's a that's a much more 598 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,960 normal. You screw me. 599 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,680 I'm an idiot. But so. 600 00:27:58,760 --> 00:27:59,760 Yeah, so I was playing through those. 601 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,680 I'm up to level E3M4 and I'm going to say the name of the 602 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,360 level and then I'm going to have to figure out how to get you 603 00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:08,360 back on track. But the level I'm on E3M4 House 604 00:28:08,360 --> 00:28:11,040 of Pain is I'm. Not going to do it. 605 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,160 I'm not going to do it. I I'm genuinely shocked. 606 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:15,920 I'm not going to do it because I came to get down. 607 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,840 I came to get down to jump around. 608 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:21,960 So it's one of those levels that starts off with a pinky demon 609 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:23,680 looking directly at you, blocking a really narrow 610 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:25,560 hallway. You can't really get any 611 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,400 weaponry unless you run into one of the side rooms. 612 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:28,880 The side rooms are completely full of stuff. 613 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,280 The last time I've started playing through all of Doom one 614 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:34,720 on Ultraviolet with fast monsters and pistol starts. 615 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,240 This is the level I gave up on, and I probably will again here 616 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,680 and just keep on going with regular Ultraviolets from here 617 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:41,800 on throughout the rest of the spreadsheet. 618 00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,640 But it's been really fun training and I noticed I was 619 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,560 playing some other wads and just being that agile all against 620 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,360 pinkies because I'm used to them going super speed has made it a 621 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,800 lot easier for me to deal with them in crowds in other wads. 622 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,440 So I played through the WAD overboard recently. 623 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,720 It's by Syriac Harris, who you may know as the guy on YouTube 624 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,760 that does the freaky animations with like the cows that 625 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,560 fractalize themselves and stuff. I don't know if I've seen that 626 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,640 when I think of weird YouTube animations these days. 627 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,200 These days I think of Papa Meat and his weird drawing style that 628 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,320 he does. A lot of his. 629 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,080 That dude has some weird aesthetics man. 630 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,960 I think his horror little oven while we stick with. 631 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,120 Me. Yes, that oven is hilarious. 632 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,920 Yeah, Syriac is best known like, he's an animator that also does 633 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,280 music and stuff. There's like kind of this 634 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,320 twisted, demented clown music vibe to his music. 635 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,440 And the video is like, kind of pulsating, like, kind of like a 636 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,200 Photoshop that animates and like, like a cow that fractals 637 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,280 out into having more legs than the legs grow arms and the arms 638 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,560 grow heads and stuff, that kind of thing. 639 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,400 It's hard to explain unless you see it. 640 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,120 Once you've seen it, you're like, OK, I know what you're 641 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,000 talking about. And anyway, a while back you 642 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:52,200 made this award-winning Doom wad called Going Down. 643 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:53,680 I think I've talked about it in the show before. 644 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,920 It's the one where you take an elevator to the top of the UAC 645 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,360 building and it didn't go down. And it keeps going down further 646 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,480 past the bottom until it's crazier and crazier areas. 647 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,120 Yeah, Yeah, exactly. It's Doom. 648 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,320 You know you're going to end up in hell. 649 00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,880 I'm not really spoiling anything, but so overboard on 650 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,960 the other hand, is it's doomed. The beach episode. 651 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:16,640 It is 6 levels of basically you start off on a cruise ship in a 652 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,640 cabin of a cruise ship. You've got to kind of fight your 653 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,440 way out and get to an escape boat. 654 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,880 And then every level from then you take the escape boat onto 655 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,400 like an island or to a submarine or something. 656 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,200 You've got to find a can of gas there and then bring it back to 657 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,840 the sub and. Man, that reminds me of the OG 658 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,640 of OG Far Cry. Sure, you get attacked on a boat 659 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,560 and you have to jump off, you have to swim to shore, and then 660 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,120 you're having to handle island stuff. 661 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:43,880 So that's kind of cool that they did that for Doom. 662 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,520 That's interesting. Yeah, because the Doom, even 663 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,240 though level or episode 2 of Doom is called the Shores of 664 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,360 Hell, there aren't like a lot of Beachy textures built into Doom. 665 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,120 And in fact, before this came out, like right before this came 666 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,440 out, I was ideating with some people about, you know, if I 667 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,880 wanted to make some Doom models, what would I do? 668 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,240 And my first best idea was Doom the beach episode. 669 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,080 I'm like, you know, I could make awesome sand textures and make 670 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,920 some little like umbrellas and stuff like that. 671 00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,840 And then Moldy comes out with this wad that's like exactly 672 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,680 what I was envisioning, but way better than I could have done 673 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,360 it. It's just amazing. 674 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,160 Like even the levels have like cute nicknames like like the 675 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,560 level 2 is called Skeleton Coast. 676 00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,800 And as you can guess, that means there's a whole bunch of Bony 677 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:27,600 boys on that level. Level 4 is a volcano full of 678 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,160 Kaka demons called Kakatoa. That screenshot that you sent 679 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,960 made me laugh. Yeah, it's just it, it, it's 680 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,840 done. It's really funny the way he 681 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,320 does it too, because like, but he has a huge sense of humor in 682 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,200 his mapping. And so the moment you pick up 683 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,720 that rocket launcher, all these these Kaka demons just rise up 684 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,080 out of the lava, like slowly, like they're the lava itself. 685 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,120 And it's just a really funny visual. 686 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:50,720 Do you know how Kaka demons are made? 687 00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:58,680 Oh, that took me a moment. But yeah, so it's only 6 levels 688 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,000 long. I planned it on hurt me plenty 689 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,400 continuous so without pistol starting each level. 690 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,880 And I was like, wow, the stuff I learned just from really 691 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,080 speeding around a bunch of pinky demons has actually made me 692 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,640 better at this game. And I think last last week I 693 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,440 also mentioned a episode I was playing called Junk Food Four 694 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,160 that had a lot of like slaughter maps with like infinite weaponry 695 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,040 and stuff That was that was really fun too. 696 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,160 Still like still playing some of that. 697 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,200 I beat a level called a billion Draculas in that. 698 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,080 That was a fun one. That's an interesting name. 699 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,920 You know the funniest thing about a billion Draculas is out 700 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,320 of all the levels I've played up to that point, it actually had 701 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,680 like the third fewest monsters. It only had 800 compared to some 702 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,160 that have 10,000. It that that's a bit much. 703 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,480 10,000 enemies, that's a lot. Well, they kind of end up 704 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,960 killing each other like it's a slaughter map, so you kind of 705 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,160 weave into a way that causes enemies to infight and they'll 706 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,280 end up blasting each other. I gotcha, makes me think of 707 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:50,680 Serious Sam. You just get waves of enemies 708 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:52,640 coming at you. When I first talked, we talked 709 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,680 about Serious Sam on the episode. 710 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,760 The one thing I kept comparing it to was Doom Slaughter Baps. 711 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,680 And yes, it's exactly that. It's crowds of enemies that you 712 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,440 have to learn how to shape. The crowd itself, in addition to 713 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,920 fighting like it's equal parts of managing crowds, is actually 714 00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,280 putting out your own offense. I I love that in all of the 715 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,200 Serious Sam games, they have like kept up that joke of 716 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:18,840 killing the bomb guy and Sam going yourself and then just a 717 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,480 massive wave of them coming at you like. 718 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,120 Running over the hill of the mountain right of the Valkyries 719 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:26,160 ought to be playing in the background. 720 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,560 They've done that in every Serious Sam mainline game and I 721 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,480 love it. It's a good goof I was Speaking 722 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,400 of. I think I might have mentioned 723 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,880 it, but they have. They totally use the the There's 724 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:39,160 a kamikaze monster in Junk Food 4 and it absolutely uses a 725 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,960 Serious Sam scream noise. I love it. 726 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,120 Tremendous. That's such a great yell. 727 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:46,680 It's it's perfect. It is really perfect. 728 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:52,520 So I guess in conclusion to where we're going with the first 729 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,520 person shooters, a lot of this was in anticipation of the fact 730 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,360 that Doom, the Dark Ages, the 6th game in the mainline Doom 731 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,400 series. Well, and I guess if you call it 732 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,280 the numbered series because otherwise you could argue it's 733 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:06,280 like the 8th or 9th game because you could say final Doom and 734 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,199 Doom 64. Who cares? 735 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,960 I called Doom 2016 Doom 4. So that makes this Doom 6 by my 736 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,560 reckoning. I would agree with that. 737 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:18,679 So it was coming out this week and it was available on Game 738 00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:20,199 Pass. So I'm like hey you know I'll 739 00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:22,360 buy myself a month of game Pass cuz worse comes worse. 740 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,120 It's got like Bellatro and shit I can play some bellatro that 741 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,159 would be fun. And pre downloaded it and opened 742 00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:32,239 it up when the launch came. And you need to have a graphics 743 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,760 card that has ray tracing or it won't even open. 744 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,760 Not opens and runs badly. Does not open at all, just 745 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,679 straight up refuses to get to the title screen. 746 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,800 Yeah, you sent me a screenshot that basically just said no. 747 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,480 Yeah, it might as well have just been doomed. 748 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,920 The Dark Ages, it says. No, no. 749 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,239 Yeah. So to remedy that, I'm I'm going 750 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,520 to be sending Willy some stuff. So originally when we first 751 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,400 started doing the podcast, we were playing Dragon Quest 11 and 752 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,400 you told me that you were playing it like windowed in some 753 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,720 really low resolution and it was still running choppy. 754 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:10,320 It was 480P and with percentage upscaling and I still wasn't 755 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,920 getting more than like 18 frames a second. 756 00:35:12,240 --> 00:35:15,960 Yeah, and I was like, oh boy, I have an old graphics card. 757 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,280 I'm just going to send this to you. 758 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,280 And I did, and it has lasted this long. 759 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,720 It's done an incredible job. It's better than Eddie. 760 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,800 Like I'm so used to using laptops with integrated graphics 761 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,240 that having even the lowest end of low end gaming PCs, like as a 762 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:33,680 desktop has been such a huge increase for me. 763 00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,840 But then when you send me that graphics card, it changed 764 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,240 everything. Like, I'm like, I've never 765 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,720 played Rocket League at 60 frames per second before, Yeah. 766 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,760 So it has now come to where that graphics card is now not 767 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,240 performing the way it needs to for certain games and stuff. 768 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,280 And I have also done another upgrade since then. 769 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,720 So I have old parts and I told you, I said my only caveat for 770 00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:04,720 this is I need you whenever you have the cash to send me back 771 00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:10,360 the parts that you take out so I can put them into my backup PC 772 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,920 just so I have a backup. Literally, I just needed to be 773 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,080 able to record like this in case something was going on. 774 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,240 I could still record because I can find other ways to play 775 00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:21,120 games, be it on the PlayStation or whatever until things get 776 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,960 figured out. But I boxed it up before we 777 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,560 recorded. So you're going to get a box and 778 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,560 inside of that is some paper and then it's going like I'm sending 779 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,360 you a guitar pedal, but you're going to open that up and in 780 00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:38,360 there is the RTX 2080 or excuse me, RTX 2060 Super wrapped in a 781 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,960 towel. And then underneath that there 782 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,680 are three Baggies. 1 baggie literally just has one tiny 783 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,800 screw in it. That is the screw that when you 784 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,080 put the graphics card in, there's a little metal piece 785 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,400 that sticks this way and you can screw it down into your case. 786 00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,840 If your case doesn't have a spot for that, then I recommend 787 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,880 laying your computer on its side so the graphics card doesn't 788 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,880 sag, if that makes sense. Yeah, I was using. 789 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,040 I was doing that for a while, but I figured out some way to 790 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,200 keep it up lately. But it used to lay it on its. 791 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,800 So it's it's got a brace, so if there's a spot that you can 792 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,160 brace it out on your computer, cool. 793 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,600 If not, you'll figure it out. Then Doom basically told you 794 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,920 that your graphics card and your CPU both could fuck off. 795 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,800 So I took my CPU out, it's this little square fucker, and I 796 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,720 wrapped that in some tissue paper, put that into a baggie, 797 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:29,080 put that in there as well. And then you also have 216 798 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,600 gigabyte RAM sticks. I don't think I have space for 799 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,440 two. Well, you should check because 800 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,480 I, I think you're when I was looking at your board, I think 801 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,000 it said it had two slots and it can handle up to 30 to 32 802 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,640 gigabytes, so. Oh, in that case it might have 803 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,440 been all dims, in which case I could just take out both of the 804 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:46,920 eights that are in there and then put in the. 805 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:50,280 Yeah, that makes more sense. So if you want, like if if the 806 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,280 sixteens work and everything's fine and everything, you can 807 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,480 send me the the two eights or whatever, or, you know, just 808 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,520 send me back the one that I had sent you or whatever, you know, 809 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,800 just so I can put pieces into this scrap machine that I have 810 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,760 now for now. But yeah, so hopefully you can 811 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,280 get all that set up and then, you know, you're going to have 812 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,840 to use DDU, take off the AMD drivers, put in NVIDIA. 813 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,720 I can walk you through that when you get to that point setting 814 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:14,280 up. Well as long will it like will 815 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,560 it just power on normally? I'll just need to do the drivers 816 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,680 to make it actually do 3D. Pretty much, yeah. 817 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,800 It's you're going to need to power it on Windows will 818 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:24,640 probably install a basic NVIDIA driver and then OK, yeah, that I 819 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,880 just recommend what to quickly run through it. 820 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,600 You boot into safe mode and you run a program called DDU, which 821 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,600 is a driver on installer and you would uninstall all the AMD 822 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,440 drivers. And then I would recommend as 823 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,880 well installing that NVIDIA driver that Windows installs and 824 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,680 then you log back in. But before you uninstall those, 825 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,920 you go to NVIDIA site, you download the most recent driver, 826 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,120 and then when you uninstall those and you reboot, it boots 827 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,800 in on just your onboard graphics or whatever. 828 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:55,600 And then you run that driver, it installs it, and then it's fine. 829 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:57,440 I would recommend one more reboot after that. 830 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:01,120 But yeah, and then you should be solid to go now, placing a CPU 831 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,360 I've never done before. So there might be a little more 832 00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:04,760 to it than that, but I don't think so. 833 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,920 Because like the video that I watched where the guy was like, 834 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,800 this is how you change your CPU, blop, blop, blop, add thermal 835 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,400 paste, plop, done. So it was real, real simple. 836 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,840 And if there's anything that is above me in your mind, in your 837 00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:21,160 pay grade, we always have, Dane. True, still very grateful for 838 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,640 him for fixing the lightning storm CMOS issue. 839 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,400 Yeah, yeah, I know. Me and him were trying to help 840 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,160 Connor out with a an issue Connor was having on her pre 841 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,200 built that she got. Turns out though I think it was 842 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,040 just a bad PSU so they're gonna send her a new one. 843 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,000 Yeah yeah. So all of that said, I also 844 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:38,920 bought a month of Game Pass. To check out. 845 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:40,840 So I'm excited to hear about your experience. 846 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,960 Give me just one moment to real quick. 847 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,480 While you're doing that, I will talk about so I've been running 848 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,400 it into an issue on my PC lately where and I've talked about this 849 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,960 on multiple episodes and I've had a lot of conversations with 850 00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:58,280 Dane about this where my certain games that I run specifically 851 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,520 Blackmith, Wukong, Cyberpunk 2077 and now Oblivion 852 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:06,760 remastered, when I try to use very heavy ray trace settings, 853 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:11,280 specifically, I think it's path tracing, which was added when 854 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:14,640 the 50 NVIDIA card series came out. 855 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,200 I think that's what's causing the issues with the crashing 856 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,840 somewhere in the driver because on game pass I loaded, I 857 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,560 installed the Indiana Jones game which has ridiculous ray tracing 858 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,360 in it and if I turn on all the path tracing stuff it crashes. 859 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:32,200 Without it, it doesn't. I installed Avowed and if I run 860 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,040 Avowed with ray tracing on, it crashes. 861 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,040 If I run it without ray tracing, it doesn't. 862 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,280 But it's a Unreal Engine 5 game, which makes me think that 863 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,720 there's some sort of bug in Unreal Engine 5 or there's 864 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:45,280 something with the NVIDIA drivers and Unreal Engine. 865 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,280 I don't know what's going on. So I loaded, I'm like, all 866 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,160 right, Doom, this game looks ridiculous. 867 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,400 So if if any game is going to make my fucking computer crash, 868 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,160 it's going to be this. And I loaded up Doom and it runs 869 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,120 like a hot knife through butter with everything on fucking Max. 870 00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,240 I think I'm getting like 120 frames a second with the game 871 00:41:03,240 --> 00:41:08,240 looking absolutely phenomenal. And kudos to ID for their 872 00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:11,520 fucking engine being just chef's kiss. 873 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,280 It is so optimized it's ridiculous. 874 00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,480 Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm a little sad that my no ray tracing card 875 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,400 won't work, but if that's what's required these days, I'm still 876 00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:24,280 they are so amazingly performant compared to everyone else's 877 00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,360 engines that I'm still looking. Forward to and here's what blew 878 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,680 my mind when I was talking to Dane about it. 879 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,960 And I'm like, you know, I loaded up ray tracing. 880 00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,160 I there's no, there's no choice to turn ray tracing on or off, 881 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,560 but obviously it's required because your card won't run it 882 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,240 at all because it can't do ray tracing. 883 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,280 But I have everything on Max and I told Dane I said man, I said 884 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,720 with DLSS it is running so fucking smooth. 885 00:41:44,240 --> 00:41:46,520 When I loaded in today and went and looked at the settings, I'm 886 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:50,440 not using DLSS so I'm not using. I'm running it at 4K. 887 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,200 Oh wow. And it's running smooth as 888 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:53,200 butter. That's crazy. 889 00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,720 And that tells me my fucking card and my computer is fine. 890 00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:02,000 There is something going on with drivers and NVIDIA because I 891 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,520 have done everything. Brother when I tell you I spent 892 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,680 two hours last night running mem test 86 because it takes an hour 893 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,440 per pass for some reason on my computer. 894 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,400 Nothing wrong with my RAM. I've checked my GPU running 895 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,640 different tests. I bought 3D mark and benchmarked 896 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,120 my computer and I get fucking pretty decent fucking 897 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:25,360 benchmarks. I will say I used, I don't 898 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,040 remember the name of the program but it was to test my CPU and it 899 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,360 was underperforming. Cinebench that's what I use 900 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,080 cinebench and I was it was underperforming. 901 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,240 I updated my BIOS and now it performs like twice as good. 902 00:42:36,240 --> 00:42:37,400 So I'm like what the fuck is going? 903 00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:40,400 I don't know what's going on. So that all being said, you want 904 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:42,200 to hear about Doom? Of course I do. 905 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,440 So I load into it and immediately like I know Mick 906 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,560 Gordon didn't work on this but the music fucking kicks ass. 907 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:51,160 It makes me happy that I bought my 9 string because I can play 908 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:55,720 those really like riffs and stuff. 909 00:42:55,720 --> 00:42:59,520 And it's, I load in, there's a bunch of cut scenes in the 910 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,480 beginning kind of showing you what's going on. 911 00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,520 And then, you know, you see the the Doomslayer and you get 912 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:09,040 ported down to the level and you start playing and Oh my God, 913 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,960 Willie, when I tell you I've played two levels of this and I 914 00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,000 already like it more than 2016 and Eternal combined. 915 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:21,640 Damn it. Is so fucking satisfying The so 916 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,560 they added the you have a a melee like some of the old, you 917 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,640 know, doom 2016 and stuff. You have the E and you have like 918 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:32,720 3 melees, but you can gain more with little up not power ups, 919 00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:35,480 but you know little pickups your shield. 920 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,400 So if I start talking about things that you want to find out 921 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,440 on your own, stop me. But like your shield has this 922 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,800 ability where you block with it and if you're aiming at an 923 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,960 enemy, it'll put a reticle on the enemy and then you can press 924 00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,040 attack while you're blocking and you will shoot forward and 925 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:53,000 shield bash the enemy and that sends out a shockwave. 926 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:56,040 So I've like if there are like the little dumb zombie guys who 927 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,880 are like the weakling enemies and a group of them you can boom 928 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,600 and it'll just blow them all to bits of gore. 929 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:08,040 On the second level, I I found the the chain part of the the 930 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:11,240 shield. So now it Revs like a chainsaw 931 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,120 and I unlocked throwing the shield. 932 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:17,040 So now I can run into a fight, throw the shield, hit an enemy 933 00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,840 with it, run up, shoot him with a shotgun, get my shield back, 934 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,280 hit him with a melee attack and then they will go purple. 935 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,920 And it's like like in the older games like the when you would do 936 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,480 the the special kills. I forget what it's called glory 937 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:29,960 kills. Thank you. 938 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:31,760 It's basically a glory kill thing. 939 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,360 And you, you either like shield bash him or you stab him or you 940 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,600 shoot him or something and it kills him and you get a bunch of 941 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,200 ammo and things like that. But with the shield, there's 942 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,640 also a Perry mechanic now. So like. 943 00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,240 OK, Yeah, this is what I've been most interested in because Perry 944 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:49,120 seems like so different from, you know, doom mechanics so far 945 00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,920 to date, you know, so. Certain enemies will shoot, you 946 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,040 know, attacks at you, but every now and then one of them will be 947 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,480 green. And when it comes at you and 948 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,480 it's green, you can block at a certain time with your shield 949 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,520 and it will send that back to the enemy. 950 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,480 So like there's a, there's a certain enemy that like 951 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:07,320 literally turns green and rolls really quickly and flies at you 952 00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:10,360 like a cannonball and you can throw your shield up and block 953 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,520 that and it they'll explode. There's an enemy that like 954 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,880 shoots a cross energy beam that comes at you green wise and you 955 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,200 can shoot it back at them and it will cut their arms and legs and 956 00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,600 head off. It's so fucking sweet. 957 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:30,560 This game is so goddamn gory. It's like it's so it's so sweet. 958 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,560 And like the second level I'm going through and I'm fighting 959 00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,080 and in the background is a giant Titan and then like the humans 960 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:43,040 and a giant mech looking like almost looks like a Halo Spartan 961 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,480 and out there fighting the Titan and shit. 962 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:49,360 And the first level I, this was the first time in a Dune game 963 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,320 I've ever stopped and just looked at scenery because I'm 964 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,400 running up this Cliff and I stop and there's a vast ocean to the 965 00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,840 right of me and I stop and I look out and in the horizon like 966 00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,320 a like, you know how the sun will look super big on an ocean 967 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,200 sometimes as it's going down? It was just a giant burning 968 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,520 pentagram and it looked. So I didn't get a screenshot of 969 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,360 it because I didn't know what you wanted spoiled and what you 970 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,480 didn't want spoiled. And because I'm playing on Xbox 971 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,280 or Game Pass, I just figured out today how to take screenshots 972 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,560 with Game Pass. So because I haven't mapped to a 973 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,960 certain key on my Steam and it's like anytime I play something 974 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,040 that's not Steam, I hit that. I'm like, damn it, that's not 975 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,720 doing what I wanted to do. Yeah, and my computer doesn't 976 00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:31,080 like taking screenshots of full screen games for some reason. 977 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:35,080 It is very fast-paced. That's what I was worried about 978 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,760 because we talked about like it being Perrying and there's no 979 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,080 dash, like there wasn't eternal. I was worried that they like 980 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:41,400 slowed things. Down absolutely. 981 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,880 Not all of the mechanics that they added just lead to chaos. 982 00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,400 Like it's just, it is absolute chaos. 983 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,480 And there was one other thing I was going to what was it? 984 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,120 Oh, I I I've learned. Yeah. 985 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,520 Have you got to, have you gotten to any like of the stuff that 986 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,160 was like new into trailers like the Mech or the Dragon or? 987 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,560 Have not. Not yet I've seen the dragon. 988 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,400 I figured they're probably waiting for like the end of act 989 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,480 one for something. Like that I ran by an area and 990 00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,760 when I looked out to the left there was a a dragon shooting 991 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,920 fire at the Titan off in the distance. 992 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,120 So it. Sounds like there's a lot of 993 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,680 huge background. There's a lot of fucking huge 994 00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,320 background things going on, like. 995 00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,800 I always thought that like the big Titans walking around in 996 00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,240 like the the city level and doom eternal was like. 997 00:47:25,240 --> 00:47:27,240 I was say, do you remember the level with the icon of Sin? 998 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,600 That's that's the vibes that I got off these first 2 levels is 999 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,840 like you're going through a city trying to defend it while these 1000 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:35,600 Titans are in the middle of destroying it. 1001 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,120 But it's not the icon of sin. I can only imagine what that 1002 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,640 mother fucker's gonna look like if he shows up. 1003 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,560 I was gonna say you've never stopped to look at like a Doom 1004 00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,600 area and I'm like, I remembered you didn't get to hell when we 1005 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,520 played Doom 3 for the show. So 'cause I was gonna say, dude, 1006 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,560 hell in Doom 3 is really impressive looking. 1007 00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:53,880 Yeah, I need to go back and. Play like, especially just. 1008 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,280 Beat it. Yeah. 1009 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,040 I mean you're having issues with like it making you feel nauseous 1010 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,680 though. So I can't say that it's 1011 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,360 necessarily like I still am not like a full on hater, but I do 1012 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,400 think that if it if it gives you any physical symptoms, there's 1013 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,040 no real reason. It's not it it, it would be the 1014 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,720 6th, the most important game to play. 1015 00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:16,680 Wonder if it didn't bug me when I played it on Xbox because the 1016 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:19,880 frame rate was lower and like the resolution was lower and 1017 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,240 like everything wasn't as crisp. I don't know. 1018 00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,040 I also feel like didn't that game have like a really low FOV? 1019 00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:26,840 Like is there any way you can tune that? 1020 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:29,080 That might be something too. That might be if there's like a 1021 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,000 mod or something for an FOV slider for it. 1022 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:33,360 Because I've I've definitely heard people say that like they 1023 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:36,480 get mushed and sick in games. They're like when it's a, a game 1024 00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,480 that wasn't made for widescreen and they're playing it and it's 1025 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,160 got the FOV like it's a 443 game. 1026 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,360 Like I know nobody can play Team Fortress 2 without at least 1027 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,800 upgrading the FOVA little bit because it's like freaking 1028 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,160 fisheye lens almost on a modern. Computer. 1029 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,080 Yeah, no, thank you. No, no, no, no, I don't want 1030 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,800 that. But no, no, no, this new Doom 1031 00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:01,160 game is deserving of all of the ratings that I've seen come out 1032 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,600 for it, which have been like 10 out of 10/9 and 1/2 out of 10. 1033 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,800 Five stars, 4.5 stars. I don't think I've seen anything 1034 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:11,520 less than that. Oh, Speaking of weapons, you you 1035 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,360 mentioned the shield and the melee stuff, but like how many 1036 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,480 of like how many guns and stuff do you have? 1037 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,720 OK. So so far, the first gun that 1038 00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:21,000 you get is the shotgun. Yeah, that's completely so. 1039 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,960 You're running around with a shield and a shotgun and you 1040 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,080 just feel so fucking bad ass. Like I can't explain how fucking 1041 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,920 awesome it feels, but you run with the shotgun for a little 1042 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,640 bit and then the next gun you gets the machine guns. 1043 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:35,000 You get that machine gun and the third gun that I've gotten is 1044 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,960 the plasma gun. Wow, that early? 1045 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,320 Now it's because they introduce these enemies to you that have 1046 00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,040 energy Shields. And if. 1047 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,800 You shoot the energy Shields with the plasma gun. 1048 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,680 Their shield will explode and hurt the enemies around them. 1049 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,360 There's also shielded enemies that you have to shoot their 1050 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,120 shield until it starts to glow red and then you throw your 1051 00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,520 shield at it and it explodes all. 1052 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:56,800 Right, so it sounds like they definitely doubled down on each 1053 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,840 enemy having its own mechanics, which some people didn't like 1054 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,520 and do maternal, but I thought was interesting. 1055 00:50:01,720 --> 00:50:04,720 Yeah, I wouldn't say all mechanic, all enemies have their 1056 00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:07,800 own mechanics, but there are a lot that do have the thing that 1057 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,520 you have to remember, like, oh, OK, yeah, these guys do this, 1058 00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:12,480 these guys do this, these guys do that. 1059 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:15,360 Well, I always felt like people overstated it and do maternal 1060 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,280 too, but they're like, well, you'll never be able to beat the 1061 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,880 smallest review. They don't do the exact one 1062 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,280 thing that makes it trivial. And it's like then they'll 1063 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,640 always say something like like, you could only beat the Kako 1064 00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:25,400 demons by throwing a grenade at them. 1065 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,160 And it's like, no, you can beat them with a sticky shotgun. 1066 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:30,440 You can beat them with a rocket launcher even easier than either 1067 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,840 of the grenades. Like, I don't know, I think 1068 00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,080 people just like the bitch. Ain't that the truth? 1069 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,640 But man, I'm looking forward to throwing a chainsaw shield right 1070 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,440 through a bunch of demons. Yeah, it catching this shit like 1071 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,480 Captain America meets Mad Max. I really I liked what are the 1072 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,560 big fat fuckers called Manki. Okay, so yeah, they show up and 1073 00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,040 I throw 1 and I hit it with my shield and it sticks in its 1074 00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:54,720 chest and just grinding at it right? 1075 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:58,240 And I run up to him and I hit melee as I get my shield back. 1076 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:01,000 So I get my shield back and I punch him with my right hand and 1077 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,160 I literally punched a giant chunk out of his stomach just 1078 00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,200 and then I did and I held my shield up and then I bashed him 1079 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,840 with my shield and shot him with my shotgun and he died and I was 1080 00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,160 like, that was so God damn satisfying. 1081 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,880 I can't even believe it. It's just so. 1082 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,640 And then when I beat so I'm like, all right, so I have this 1083 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:24,000 on game pass, you know, I'll be I get to play it for a month or 1084 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,760 whatever. And then I beat the second level 1085 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,240 and it tells me I found zero of six secrets. 1086 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:34,160 I found zero of one skins for your Slayer and I found zero of 1087 00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,200 one collectible toys. And I said God damn it, I'm 1088 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,400 going to end up having to buy this game because I fucking love 1089 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,200 collectibles. I don't know why. 1090 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,960 There's still a part of me that wants to go back and just try to 1091 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:50,080 find all the like, hidden toys and stuff in Doom Four and Five. 1092 00:51:50,240 --> 00:51:55,000 When I played through Doom 4I never found any of the classic 1093 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,600 levels like the little switches you pull that take you to like a 1094 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,040 level from Doom One or Doom 2. I don't know if I did either. 1095 00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,400 Yeah, I don't know if they're like super well hidden or what, 1096 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,840 but I know that's a feature in Doom 2016 and I never found one. 1097 00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:09,480 It might be worth going back and checking out then, but. 1098 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,400 I might replay Doom Eternal before I get around to Doom the 1099 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,560 Dark Ages just because I don't know how long it'll take for us 1100 00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,480 to get the computer set up. But that is. 1101 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,400 Since you'll be setting it over a weekend and all that. 1102 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,920 It is. It is absolutely insane. 1103 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:24,040 You. I'm looking forward to you're 1104 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,040 getting me more and more hype and I was already tricky. 1105 00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:26,440 Damn. High. 1106 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,440 What I said in the chat earlier and what I also said to Dane was 1107 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:34,120 that I think Willie will cry and come at the same time and. 1108 00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:35,960 We call that a number. Seven said. 1109 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:38,880 That's pretty high praise, man. I was like, dude, it's the best 1110 00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,120 Doom game I think I've ever played. 1111 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,640 Now, by the end of it, I may hate it, you never know. 1112 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,120 But like, So what I've played so far, I can't foresee that. 1113 00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,400 Like, it's just so good. And part of me is also just 1114 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,160 like, I am so happy that this brand new fucking game with ray 1115 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,960 tracing is not crashing. It's just so nice. 1116 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,240 Well, maybe you're right, maybe it is an Unreal Engine thing 1117 00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,880 because in tech is a completely different engine that is like 1118 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:02,680 straight up them well on their own so. 1119 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,680 Blackmith Wukong. Unreal Engine 5 Oblivion 1120 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:11,040 Remastered, Unreal Engine 5 Avowed Unreal Engine 5 Indiana 1121 00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,640 Jones Don't know, think it's Unreal Engine 5. 1122 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,960 I think so. I mean, it's the. 1123 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,680 Only thing that isn't. What's the full name of the 1124 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,600 game? Indiana Jones and the Great 1125 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,120 Circle. Yeah, that's right. 1126 00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,920 That's fucked up. Indiana Jones runs on in Tech 7. 1127 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,040 Well then what the fuck? Why does it crash? 1128 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,200 And you know what though? I'm going to try it without path 1129 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,720 tracing because I really. That the yeah, because that 1130 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,000 that's the Doom Eternal engine. It's the only note. 1131 00:53:39,080 --> 00:53:41,240 It's the only notable game other than Doom Eternal that runs on 1132 00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:43,640 that engine and Doom Eternal. That's like. 1133 00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,960 Great circle. Great circle. 1134 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,720 Famously has a lot of like hang ups and requirements but Doom 1135 00:53:49,720 --> 00:53:53,240 Eternal runs great. Like it's one of the like, just 1136 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:57,560 games that run so amazing for what the requirements are, you 1137 00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,040 know? I mean I I say the same thing 1138 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,920 about the this new one the Dark ages. 1139 00:54:01,720 --> 00:54:05,440 Like I can't believe how smooth it runs without DLSS whereas 1140 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,680 Unreal Engine 5 games are like unplayable without DLSS even on 1141 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,600 a 4090 because they just run at like 20 frames a second because 1142 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,480 it's so much going on. But yeah man, Can you imagine 1143 00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,080 going back to it's 1999 all over again? 1144 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:24,160 Unreal Tournament and Quake 3 are out there competing in the 1145 00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,120 arena shooter realm, and both of those engines will still be 1146 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:30,960 going to war 25 years later. For real. 1147 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:32,600 It's, it's, it's pretty wild, dude. 1148 00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,200 Like some of those that have just been around for ages and 1149 00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:39,280 ages and ages, I'm happy to see them still around because a lot 1150 00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:43,280 of them that kind of came and went, you know, so that's good. 1151 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:44,560 Other things that I've been playing. 1152 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:49,360 Let me let me peruse my my steam real quick. 02 other games, they 1153 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,880 give me crashing issues for some reason. 1154 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,520 Portal with ray tracing and Half Life 2 with ray tracing. 1155 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:56,760 OK, but those aren't unreal, those are source games. 1156 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,800 That is really confusing. Yeah, but they're also. 1157 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,040 It's got to be NVIDIA. Mods, yeah, I think it's an I do 1158 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,360 think it's an issue. Well, it's it's I say they're 1159 00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:05,880 mods. They're official releases on 1160 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,360 Steam, but they're technically mods. 1161 00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:10,920 Are they running? Are they running the game 1162 00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,200 through a different engine or are they just adding ray tracing 1163 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:14,960 support? To no, I believe that they added 1164 00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,160 it in source, so they're I believe they're still running on 1165 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,160 a source engine. So that's what makes me think 1166 00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:22,840 that there's a hang up somewhere in the drivers for 40 series. 1167 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:28,280 Yeah, it has to be that because again, DNA Jones is in tech and 1168 00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:31,840 those games are like, I can't. It has to be something with the 1169 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,080 ray tracing support in the NVIDIA drivers, because there's 1170 00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:37,440 no way all three of those programs do things the same way. 1171 00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,200 Yeah, yeah, it absolutely. And I do want to say this too 1172 00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,760 before we move on, because the opening cutscene of Avowed, at 1173 00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,200 least at 4K on my screen, which was a cutscene rendered in 1174 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:53,160 Unreal Engine 5, was one of the most ridiculously pretty looking 1175 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,240 things I've ever seen rendered in a video game ever. 1176 00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:59,240 Unreal Engine 5 is really incredible at realistic 1177 00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:01,000 graphics. Like what was that? 1178 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,560 Did they do like that matrix thing? 1179 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,400 Was that that was the Unreal Engine 5? 1180 00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:06,800 That was just ridiculously good looking. 1181 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:09,600 There's also been like people have made videos of like train 1182 00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,720 stations and stuff that are really creepy as you're walking 1183 00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:15,240 around them and things like that and it looks straight up real, 1184 00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:17,840 but it's Unreal Engine 5 with certain shaders on it. 1185 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,760 It's fucking insane. I think that you know Cane 1186 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:24,040 Pixels, the guy that does those backroom studios, those are made 1187 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,160 in Unreal Engine, although I think he might have used 4. 1188 00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:29,360 I believe he did use 4 but even still, like people who know what 1189 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:31,400 they're doing with those just it's insane. 1190 00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:34,800 Yeah, cuz those are like, I would not have realized, like I 1191 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,840 been like, how did he film this? Because it looks like it's 1192 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:39,800 really filmed on VHA straight and all that. 1193 00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:43,000 It looks like a realistic place. The only thing that gives away 1194 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,240 that it's not real, it's just the fact that it's a physically 1195 00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:46,920 impossible location. Yeah. 1196 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,320 And I think some of the the filters and stuff like that I 1197 00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,800 would, I would assume probably come from Reshade. 1198 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,160 Yeah, using. Like post processing type stuff 1199 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,720 but. Yeah, there's a lot of post 1200 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:56,680 processing. Use it effectively. 1201 00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,640 Though it's just chef's kiss. So good. 1202 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:04,240 Yeah, I did start on Higurashi Part 2. 1203 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,840 I'm not very far into it at all, but I did start on it, and I 1204 00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,960 also started another visual novel series that kind of has 1205 00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:15,840 like an RPG element to it that I read is considered by people. 1206 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,360 It's very polarizing. Either people love it or they 1207 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,640 fucking hate it. It's called the Rants series. 1208 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,400 Have you ever heard of it? Rants. 1209 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,480 OK so Long story short, it's about a dude who was a piece of 1210 00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:32,160 shit named Rants who gets these girls who are his slaves that he 1211 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,840 makes have sex with him and things like that. 1212 00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:35,840 But he's also like the savior of the world. 1213 00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,920 It's a very 90s Japanese thing and I'm not gonna lie, I played 1214 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,120 it for like an hour and I don't think it's vibing with me 1215 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,720 because the whole time I'm playing I'm like this main 1216 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,920 character is super unlikable. Like he is a super douchebag. 1217 00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:54,280 Yeah, I mean, I know that sometimes having a douchebag 1218 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,480 main character works for games, but like when Paul and Chandra 1219 00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:02,280 were streaming Catherine, I really struggled watching that 1220 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,520 because the main dude and Catherine is such a piece of 1221 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,680 shit. Yeah, and and rants takes that 1222 00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,840 to a another level and I just I don't know if I'm on with it. 1223 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:14,080 So I may shelve that. Maybe check out one of the later 1224 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:17,560 rants games, which usually have a bit better reception. 1225 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,240 So maybe the the guy who made those matured as he made them or 1226 00:58:21,240 --> 00:58:22,240 something. I don't really know. 1227 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,160 But rants 1 seemingly, I don't know if it's going to be for me. 1228 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,920 I'm willing to go back and give it a little more just to, you 1229 00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,920 know, like I'll try anything twice just to make sure I don't 1230 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,440 like it. So but Higurashi, looking 1231 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,040 forward to getting into that. And I think the the next one I'm 1232 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:39,880 going to do, I think I'm going to dive into the fruit of 1233 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,160 Grassia, but. I don't think I'm familiar with 1234 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,960 that, but all right. It was on a list. 1235 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,680 So I've looked up like lists of the best visual novels that you 1236 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:52,760 can read and lists of like disturbing visual novels because 1237 00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:57,800 I really like good books, but I also really like like Higurashi 1238 00:58:57,800 --> 00:58:59,000 and things like that. You know what I mean? 1239 00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,320 They kind of give me the heebie jeebies. 1240 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,520 So I was looking for a good medium of the two. 1241 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:06,400 And the two or three that kept coming up were the Fruit of 1242 00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,480 Grassiah, Wonderful, every Day, down the Rabbit hole. 1243 00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,520 Excuse me, the four that kept coming up, wonderful every day 1244 00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,640 down the rabbit hole, Fruit of Grassiah or the Grassiah series, 1245 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:19,160 really. Higurashi and Umineko, which is 1246 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,560 the Umineko's the sequel to Higurashi. 1247 00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:24,760 So it's like, all right, I own all of those. 1248 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,640 So and then of course Steins Gate is another one that people. 1249 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:29,320 I was gonna say this is the first time you've talked about 1250 00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:31,640 edgy visual novels without bringing up Saya no Utah. 1251 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:35,360 Yeah, I also have Saya no Utah. That was also one that came up. 1252 00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:36,640 That's when you were thinking about doing. 1253 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,640 That's one you've been thinking about doing for the show from 1254 00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,720 time to time. So I still have mixed feelings 1255 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,280 about that, but the fact that the writer did Madoka makes me 1256 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,480 want to give it a little bit more leeway than I ordinarily 1257 00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,840 would from the description. And I know a little more about 1258 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:52,520 Cyanoda now than I do, or than I did when I first was wanting to 1259 00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,920 read it and things like that. I still want to read it, but it 1260 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,000 creeps me out less knowing something that I know about the 1261 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,240 game. But it's a it's a good not being 1262 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:03,600 as creeped out, if that makes sense. 1263 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,440 Right. Yeah. 1264 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,200 If you, if you could pick up what I'm putting down. 1265 01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:09,560 Yeah. So then it makes it a little 1266 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,160 better. But yeah, there's there's 1267 01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:12,920 there's a handful of them that I would like to get to. 1268 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,280 And Cyanoouda is another one that's on, you know, the 1269 01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,000 disturbing list. But people say it's actually a 1270 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,600 pretty good read. And then there's something like 1271 01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,320 Euphoria, which I've heard is absolutely filthy gore, 1272 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:25,720 Screaming Show, which I've heard is very gory. 1273 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,640 You ever thought about you ever thought about doing one of the 1274 01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:32,960 like death game type ones like virtues last reward or? 1275 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,360 I actually bought. Your the. 1276 01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:37,320 Other day I bought the owner of games. 1277 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:38,920 Yeah, yeah, that's, that's the series I made. 1278 01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:40,720 I forgot what the first one was called so I just said. 1279 01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:45,400 Is it 9? 99999 people 9 doors something 1280 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:48,440 and then think virtue is less, reward is the 2nd. 1281 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,240 One and then there's a third one too. 1282 01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:54,600 Yeah 0 escaped and ownery games. Let me see Yeah 99 hours, 9 1283 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,560 persons, 9 doors and virtues less reward. 1284 01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,360 And then the third one is zero time dilemma. 1285 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:00,960 Zero time dilemma. That's right. 1286 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:05,160 So yeah, I also have those. And then I acquired Dangan 1287 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,160 Rampa. Which is yeah, that I do think 1288 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,880 that would be an interesting one too, because like that's kind of 1289 01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,280 it. It isn't the first death game 1290 01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,440 story by any means, but I think it's the one that got death game 1291 01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,320 visual novels going in the West. I can agree with that. 1292 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,920 I can agree with that. I think that really rode the 1293 01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,320 wave of that one movie coming out, Battle Royale. 1294 01:01:25,480 --> 01:01:28,720 Yeah, Battle Royale and probably Hunger Games also, but yeah, 1295 01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,400 Battle Royale was probably the main one you're thinking of 1296 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,840 because man, that was a good. Fucking wild. 1297 01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:34,680 I remember watching the beginning of the Japanese. 1298 01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:37,080 One of the teachers just like, all right, you all have to kill 1299 01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:38,640 yourself. The last one wins. 1300 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,360 And then doesn't the teacher kill himself? 1301 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,080 Or does he just leave? I can't remember one of the two. 1302 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,080 Something shocking happened by the way, do you know that the 1303 01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:50,240 teacher on that was played by the same the main guy from MXC? 1304 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,520 Like, you know how there's the two hosts? 1305 01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,200 What's his name? Takeshi. 1306 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,640 Yeah, that's right. Takeshi Castle. 1307 01:01:57,440 --> 01:01:58,600 Yep, Takeshi castle. Exactly. 1308 01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:00,720 Which became MXC, yeah. Fuck yeah. 1309 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,640 It also was the guy responsible for like the most intentionally 1310 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,720 shitty Nintendo. Didn't he make the video game 1311 01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,960 that was horrible on purpose? Yeah, I think it was called 1312 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:11,440 Takeshi's. Shot well, dude, that guy's like 1313 01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,440 Japanese Andy Kaufman. For real. 1314 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,840 For real. Because like, he started off as 1315 01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,120 a comedian, but like, he has a lot of serious props as a 1316 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,760 director and stuff doing like very serious stuff. 1317 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,840 It's kind of like a what's his face these days? 1318 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,440 Jordan Peele. Ohh, that, that is a great, 1319 01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,520 great way of putting it, 'cause yeah, later on that probably 1320 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,480 these days best known for horror films, even though when I think 1321 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,800 about like a lot of people probably think I'm from Mad TV, 1322 01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,880 I think about him from the. Gill Show. 1323 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,520 So many great sketches. When he when when Jordan would 1324 01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:45,040 be Obama and then Michael Key would be his anger interpreter 1325 01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:49,080 was one of the funniest things I've ever I said bitch, what are 1326 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,280 you doing jumping up and down or the when they look around for 1327 01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,200 their wife, I said bitch. And so you called your wife a 1328 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:57,000 bitch. I did. 1329 01:02:57,160 --> 01:02:59,040 He's like and then they look around, make sure their wives 1330 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:05,120 aren't around. I said bitch so good Key and 1331 01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,680 Peele. That was a great sketch show. 1332 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,360 Although it did make me laugh when I was watching one of the 1333 01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:17,000 Dave Chappelle stand ups when he had first come back in and he 1334 01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,760 just goes man, if people ask me if I go back and watch my show, 1335 01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,720 it's like, no, I don't go back and watch my show. 1336 01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,440 If I wanted to watch my show, I could turn on Comedy Central and 1337 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,160 watch Key and Peele do my show every week. 1338 01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,040 I'm like, well, he's not, he's not far off. 1339 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,080 He's he's really not far off. But yeah, damn. 1340 01:03:35,960 --> 01:03:38,840 Well, brother, we've been ranting a bunch about all kinds 1341 01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:42,480 of stuff, but we we have some obligatory Wikipedia bullshit to 1342 01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,360 get into about the game that we played this week, which was a 1343 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:51,360 little ditty called Undertale. Undertale is a 2015 role-playing 1344 01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,440 game created by American indie developer Toby Fox. 1345 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,000 The player controls a child who has fallen into the Underground, 1346 01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,480 a large secluded region under the surface of the earth 1347 01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,160 separated by a magical barrier. The player meets various 1348 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,240 monsters during their journey back to the surface, some of 1349 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,000 which may engage in combat. The combat systems involve the 1350 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,800 player navigating through a mini bullet hell. 1351 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,880 You can choose to pass, fire, subdue, yadda, yadda yadda. 1352 01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,840 All that other stuff we'll get into as we talk about the game. 1353 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,640 So what made you pick this Willie, and what was your first 1354 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:20,680 impressions of it? Well, maybe you think this is 1355 01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:24,040 no, we had just played an RPG for the show and usually I 1356 01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,280 wouldn't go to back-to-back RPGs, but the the Nintendo 1357 01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:32,520 Switch 2 direct actually showed like a lot of new footage from 1358 01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,560 Delta Rune chapters 3 and 4, which are coming out very soon. 1359 01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:37,880 And apparently the full commercial release of Delta 1360 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,120 Rune's coming out soon. And after I was looking at that, 1361 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:42,320 I'm like, man, I never finished Undertale. 1362 01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:44,800 I got about halfway in and just never beat it. 1363 01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:49,760 So I was like, you know, it's it's a it's one of those big 1364 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:51,600 elephant in the room type indie games. 1365 01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:55,360 Like it kind of changed the course of a genre in some ways, 1366 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,680 because you can definitely see the difference in indie RPGs 1367 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:03,280 that kind of want to be Earthbound before and after 1368 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:08,440 Undertale came out. Yeah, right. 1369 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:10,480 So what was your, what was your first impression with the game 1370 01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:12,280 when you loaded it up back then then? 1371 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,920 Well, my actual first impression was I started watching someone 1372 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:19,000 do a stream of the demo back when the demo was new. 1373 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,360 So this was before the game had this huge following that it has 1374 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,000 today. Like it was just the demo that 1375 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:25,560 was just the caves at the beginning of the game. 1376 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,400 And at the beginning he said something along the lines of 1377 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:29,720 this demo is only about 30 minutes long. 1378 01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:32,240 If you think you might be even slightly interested in it, go 1379 01:05:32,240 --> 01:05:34,040 play it yourself first. It's a free demo. 1380 01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:38,600 So I did, and I played the demo. Got to the end, wanted to change 1381 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:39,320 something. I did. 1382 01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,840 So I replayed the demo and about that point I realized this is 1383 01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,840 going to be a special game. OK, I know why, too. 1384 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,920 OK, Yeah. Well, so when you said you 1385 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,240 wanted to do Undertale, I was like, all right, cool. 1386 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,520 But here's the thing. I had never played Undertale on 1387 01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:57,440 purpose, in the same vein that I've never played Earthbound 1388 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:01,600 more than for like 30 minutes. People have hyped up Undertale 1389 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:05,720 to me so much for so long that this is like one of the greatest 1390 01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:10,640 gifts God has ever given to gaming that I didn't want to 1391 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,360 taint it for myself if I didn't feel that same way. 1392 01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,240 Does that make sense? I feel the same way about 1393 01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:18,200 Earthbound to this day actually. Like I have opened it up, played 1394 01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:20,960 the first hour but hey this is pretty cool I'll come back to 1395 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,960 it. And then went, man, I do want to 1396 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,480 play it, but I'm still kind of scared I won't love it as much 1397 01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:27,680 as I'm supposed to. Yeah, exactly. 1398 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,440 And it's, it's one of those that I'm like, well, if I end up not 1399 01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,480 liking this game, I am going to get reamed for that. 1400 01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,120 So I I just, I always avoided playing it. 1401 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,000 I think that you could get away with hating the game. 1402 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,960 I think if you wanted to give it a six out of 10, that's when you 1403 01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:42,960 would. The shit would hit the fan. 1404 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:46,800 You know, we don't see how the end of this episode goes, but I 1405 01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,400 when I loaded up and was playing it, I was immediately the first 1406 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,240 thing I noticed was okay, so this games got a lot of like 1407 01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:58,160 character writing. I can tell the way Toriel hands 1408 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,120 that handles that beginning area where like you're it's obviously 1409 01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:03,960 excuse me, I got the burps tonight, ate some BBQ earlier. 1410 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,160 It's supposed it's it's obviously a tutorial area. 1411 01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:09,000 She's leading you through and then she ends up just doing 1412 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,120 stuff for you and leading you through being like. 1413 01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:13,920 Yeah, she literally grabs you by the hand because it's a hand 1414 01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,960 holding tutorial. And walks. 1415 01:07:16,120 --> 01:07:17,680 That's why her name's Toriel. It's great. 1416 01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:22,120 And walks you through and the I'm like, OK, so let's see where 1417 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:24,000 this goes. The music's really good. 1418 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,200 That's got to be I think the first thing that jumps out to 1419 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,680 pretty much everyone is that the music absolutely rips. 1420 01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,640 And I just was like, all right, well, let's RIP this Band-Aid 1421 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,120 off and just see what this game is all about. 1422 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:38,440 And yeah, that that leads us to just chatting about the game. 1423 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:41,880 So I know you had some things that you wanted to touch on and 1424 01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,680 things that you didn't want to touch on. 1425 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:47,080 So I'll let you sort of lead the discussion some if you'd like. 1426 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:50,120 Oh, I'm absolutely interested to hear more of your earlier, 1427 01:07:50,840 --> 01:07:54,440 earlier impressions to the game because like, I feel like before 1428 01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,320 you like when you're first getting started, it isn't, it 1429 01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:00,560 doesn't lead off with, well, it does have a lot of jokes in the 1430 01:08:00,760 --> 01:08:03,200 opening area of The Cave, but it's like the puzzles have the 1431 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:04,320 jokes to them. You know what I mean? 1432 01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:08,280 Like it takes a while before you reach funny characters, right? 1433 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,840 I wouldn't say it takes a while, but yeah, there are like the 1434 01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,600 things where she kind of just leads you through and it's like 1435 01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,880 to do this and this. And what struck me first was 1436 01:08:16,880 --> 01:08:19,560 when she just takes you to the house and she's like, all right, 1437 01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,479 you just hang out here. And then she leaves. 1438 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:24,160 Part of me is like, I wonder if you just left your game idling 1439 01:08:24,160 --> 01:08:28,680 in the house if she ever comes back, if it's like there's like 1440 01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:31,960 in Far Cry 4 in the beginning. He tells you wait here a moment 1441 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:33,720 I'll be back. You can literally leave your 1442 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,479 dude there and he will eventually come back and you get 1443 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,880 a secret ending so I was curious if there was. 1444 01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:42,640 It's one of the more hilarious infamous endings in a game where 1445 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,880 you just choose not to play the game and it'll let you. 1446 01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,439 Do it fantastic, and Far Cry's famous for that. 1447 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:50,200 You can do it in five too. I wouldn't be surprised if there 1448 01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,760 was something for that in this game because there's a lot of 1449 01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,680 weird little edge cases that they prepared for, like little 1450 01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,080 like things which was just dialogue specifically for if you 1451 01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:02,080 did really random action. There are 90 something endings 1452 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:05,080 based on and different things that Sans will say to you based 1453 01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:05,920 on what you've. Done, I think. 1454 01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:09,160 I think there are effectively 3 main endings, but yeah, there's 1455 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:13,279 so many variations of. It I will say I killed Toriel, 1456 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:19,399 didn't realize I didn't have to, so I from the right from the get 1457 01:09:19,399 --> 01:09:22,520 go was locked into the neutral play throughout the game. 1458 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,479 So the the first character you mean in the game is this like 1459 01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,359 friendly maternal goat lady named Tutorial who takes you 1460 01:09:28,359 --> 01:09:29,760 through the puzzles like Dalton said. 1461 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,359 Basically she's really doting and overbearing and wants to 1462 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:38,479 make sure you don't get hurt. And she after a little while of 1463 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,640 her taking care of you, you find her in her basement walling up a 1464 01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:43,760 door to try to make sure you don't get out into the world. 1465 01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:47,680 Because she says if you get out into the actual monster Kingdom 1466 01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,399 or whatever, you will die. And I can't allow that. 1467 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,240 So if you want to get out there, you're going to have to go 1468 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:56,400 through me. I, I went into this game with 1469 01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:58,840 more knowledge than I should have because it's just in the 1470 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:01,360 zeitgeist at this point. But like, so I went into this 1471 01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:03,000 game knowing about the pacifist run. 1472 01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:06,760 So I was like, OK, maybe you have to get past her and then 1473 01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,320 not kill anything else. And that's how you get the past. 1474 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,280 No, I was wrong. You, you're supposed to not kill 1475 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:14,760 her. And I did, and I felt real 1476 01:10:14,760 --> 01:10:16,640 fucking bad about it. The game made sure that I felt 1477 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,200 bad about it. Yeah, so when I played the demo, 1478 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:25,960 I the first time I went through, I did kill her and then Flowey 1479 01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,640 made me feel like a piece of shit for it. 1480 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:31,120 So I replayed the demo and then that's when the game gets really 1481 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,040 interesting because this time when you go through Flowey is 1482 01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:35,400 like, by the way, I know what you did last time. 1483 01:10:35,400 --> 01:10:38,240 Yeah, All of a sudden, Flowey seems a bit more sentient than 1484 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,200 you realize. He's like, I know what you did 1485 01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:40,920 last summer. He's. 1486 01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:45,760 Like, yeah, Flowey's this little yellow flower who is acts 1487 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,320 really, really nice and he's obviously a horrible villain 1488 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,480 monster. Yeah, he's like a smile and then 1489 01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:54,640 he says something kind of evil and then his facial expression 1490 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:58,400 changes and he becomes this grotesque looking evil, maniacal 1491 01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,520 flower. Yeah. 1492 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:02,000 And he's a bastard. And that does not change. 1493 01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,440 No. So you, you continue on. 1494 01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:08,320 And so I felt bad because I killed Torio and I didn't even 1495 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:11,640 think the reload because she had just told me keep walking to the 1496 01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,040 right, basically. OK, So I just kept walking to 1497 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,960 the right. Well, I don't know if I would 1498 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:18,520 have thought to reload the first time it happened. 1499 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:20,840 If it wasn't, that's the end of the demo. 1500 01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,360 So I was just like, well, I want to see what happens if I do it 1501 01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,360 differently. OK, so the demo is just the the 1502 01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:28,000 ruins. You don't get to Snowden. 1503 01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:32,080 Yeah, going through the next area where you meet Sands and 1504 01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,680 Papyrus. They ended up being the. 1505 01:11:33,680 --> 01:11:36,560 Skeleton Brothers the the meme characters of the game. 1506 01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,480 They were my favorites. They were my favorite characters 1507 01:11:38,480 --> 01:11:41,840 in the They're awesome. Sands with his stupid jokes and 1508 01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,880 Papyrus with just his. You know, he reminded me of 1509 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:45,960 Gaston. Who's that? 1510 01:11:46,440 --> 01:11:50,360 Yes, he has the same weird swaggery bravado, except you you 1511 01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:53,960 know he's an idiot. Yeah, it's like it reminded me, 1512 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,880 like Gaston died and this is his skeleton, and Sands is like the 1513 01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,080 skeleton of oh shit. What's his name? 1514 01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:03,720 Phil from Hercules. Oh. 1515 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:08,960 Actually angry joke man. But yeah, I got, I almost called 1516 01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:12,000 him Gaston Papyrus. Absolutely hilarious. 1517 01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:14,960 Like he's like, I'm going to capture you for Andine, who is 1518 01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,360 this big bad that you end up seeing a little bit later. 1519 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:20,920 But the more that you deal with Papyrus and obviously, you know, 1520 01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,640 I'm sure you can kill him, but I didn't. 1521 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:24,520 I just kept running past of his stuff. 1522 01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:26,920 Like he just like starts to like you more and more. 1523 01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,480 And you have to go through his first puzzle and in the second 1524 01:12:29,480 --> 01:12:32,320 puzzle, he helps you out. And then like he gets to this 1525 01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:36,000 part where he's got like all of these killing machines aimed at 1526 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,760 you. And then he just realizes, no, 1527 01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:38,880 this is no good. This is not. 1528 01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,920 And he just takes them all away and he leaves. 1529 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:44,440 And it's like that's and Sands is just standing there like, 1530 01:12:44,440 --> 01:12:48,440 Yep, that's Papyrus. Papyrus's goal is he's like he 1531 01:12:48,440 --> 01:12:50,680 wants to be a member of the Royal guard and he thinks if he 1532 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:54,080 captures a human invader of the monster lands that he will 1533 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,280 finally prove to Undying and to the King that he deserves to be 1534 01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,600 part of the Royal guard. Yeah, and but you tell him that 1535 01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,840 you want to be his friend, and suddenly it just throws his 1536 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:05,080 entire plan into a whirlwind because he's like, I can have a 1537 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,480 friend. And then he starts planning a 1538 01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,480 date. He what absolutely cracked me up 1539 01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,800 was that he was talking about going on a date with him and all 1540 01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,880 of this stuff and then you tell him you want to be friends and 1541 01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,600 he's like wow, I got friend zoned before we even went on our 1542 01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,920 first date. Yeah, and he's so happy and he's 1543 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:24,200 thrilled. He's the best. 1544 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:25,440 Yeah. I love that guy. 1545 01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:29,160 Fucking awesome. And then from that area you make 1546 01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,920 your way through that little town, which I loved the part 1547 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,560 where so the Papyrus boss fight, if you're doing the pacifist 1548 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,520 run, you just have to let him beat you down to like 1 HP and 1549 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:42,760 then he captures you and locks you quote UN quote in his shed 1550 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,040 that has a lock on the inside. Oh, you lost. 1551 01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:48,040 Yeah, so this is how I, this is how I got past this part, right. 1552 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,720 So when you do the Papyrus fight, you can let him get you 1553 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:55,920 down to 1 HP and then he takes you back to the the shed that's 1554 01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:58,520 locked When you try to go in, it says this is locked from the 1555 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,480 inside. So you're just in there. 1556 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,760 And if you had checked that door before, you know it's locked 1557 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,360 from on the inside. So you can just walk out and 1558 01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:08,200 then immediately walk to the right and go back to that area. 1559 01:14:08,440 --> 01:14:10,720 And Papyrus is like, how did you get free? 1560 01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:12,440 No worries. You won't get free this time. 1561 01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:15,120 So you do this three times. And finally, he just lets you 1562 01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:17,560 go. Like he's just like, all right, 1563 01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:18,800 this isn't working. I did. 1564 01:14:19,080 --> 01:14:21,320 I did not realize that that was actually a route you could go. 1565 01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:22,960 I simply beat him on my first try. 1566 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,160 Oh, no, yeah, you just let him whip your ass three times, then 1567 01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:27,120 he just lets you get by. I. 1568 01:14:27,640 --> 01:14:29,400 Mean it kind of makes sense because I feel like sands would 1569 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:30,840 be happy if you let him capture you. 1570 01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,600 I I just like, I was like, I'm just to avoid all of his 1571 01:14:33,600 --> 01:14:34,720 attacks. I'm going to avoid all of his 1572 01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:36,720 attacks and I'm going to spare him because that's how I roll 1573 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:38,680 and I do. Feel like at one point sans his. 1574 01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:42,480 Final attack is hilarious. I think Sans does like commend 1575 01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:44,520 you for humoring his brother. Yeah, he does. 1576 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:47,640 Like if you tell him that you at one point they get into an 1577 01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,000 argument where Sans says that the crossword puzzle is the 1578 01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,040 hardest puzzle in the newspaper and Papyrus insists it's the 1579 01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,520 junior jumble. And if you agree with him, Sans 1580 01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:58,200 says thanks for saying that, man. 1581 01:14:58,200 --> 01:14:59,920 I'm sure he really appreciates you taking it aside. 1582 01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:01,760 Yeah. Because I was, when I did that, 1583 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,520 I was like, oh, Junior Jumble. I would assume it's way more 1584 01:15:04,760 --> 01:15:07,320 difficult than a crossword. I just kind of, I felt like 1585 01:15:07,400 --> 01:15:10,640 Sands kind of has himself figured out, but Papyrus needed 1586 01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,960 somebody to kind of, you know, tell them what's up. 1587 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:18,320 So the next area is like a waterfall Y esque type area. 1588 01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:20,520 Oh yeah, it's the I forgot about the waterfall. 1589 01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,680 Yeah, the waterfalls. And this this area is a lot of 1590 01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,480 having to deal with Endyne. Undyne. 1591 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,920 I keep thinking Anodyne because that's a fucking Fear Factory 1592 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:31,120 song. Anodyne. 1593 01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:35,640 Excuse me, but yeah, Undyne. And when I first see Undine, I'm 1594 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,280 like, oh, because the Papyrus is talking to them. 1595 01:15:38,440 --> 01:15:39,800 And you don't. You don't hear Undine talk. 1596 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,240 You just hear Papyrus's side of the story. 1597 01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:43,480 But the Undine is much bigger than Papyrus. 1598 01:15:43,640 --> 01:15:46,800 Yeah, and some kind of horrible knight armor, looking extremely 1599 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:50,040 huge and scary. So there are sex of this where 1600 01:15:50,040 --> 01:15:53,080 Undine will show up on it like a parallaxed area in the 1601 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:57,160 background and start firing attacks at you and you have to 1602 01:15:57,160 --> 01:16:00,160 avoid them and you end up making your way through. 1603 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:02,800 I don't, I don't remember too. I beat this like a week ago. 1604 01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:04,760 So apologies that my brain's a little foggy on it. 1605 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:06,640 But like you make your way through and you end up getting 1606 01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,600 to this area where Undine or Undine is literally chasing you. 1607 01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,200 Now. How did you handle this? 1608 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:13,440 Or is there only one way? Well, I know there's two ways, 1609 01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:15,120 but. Chasing you into into the 1610 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,000 Hotlands or Yeah, I think I did the same thing you did. 1611 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:22,000 I eventually got away, got to the water cooler, she collapses 1612 01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,200 and I gave. Yeah, so her, her battle, and 1613 01:16:24,200 --> 01:16:27,320 you just have to survive long enough until you can flee and 1614 01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:30,160 then you run a little bit, run a little bit and that the one 1615 01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:31,480 scene. Also, her fight. 1616 01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:33,120 Her fighting is awesome by the way. 1617 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:39,480 Oh yeah, and while you're running from her, at one point 1618 01:16:39,480 --> 01:16:41,640 your character just stops and your phone starts ringing 1619 01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,960 because you have a cell phone and it's Papyrus calling you. 1620 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,680 And in my head I'm like, this is not the best fucking time, bro. 1621 01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,800 But luckily she doesn't get any closer to you while you're 1622 01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,760 talking to him. But yeah, so. 1623 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:56,120 Thanks Turn based RPG logic. So you end up getting to the end 1624 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,400 of this bridge and she comes chasing after you and she just 1625 01:16:58,880 --> 01:17:02,240 balls because she's in a giant suit of armor chasing you 1626 01:17:02,240 --> 01:17:04,560 through like all kinds of. And now you're in the hot lands 1627 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:07,000 where it's like everything is super hot and there just happens 1628 01:17:07,000 --> 01:17:08,440 to be a water cooler right there. 1629 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,120 Just sitting next to the edge of like the end of this island 1630 01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,120 above lava. It's just a water cooler. 1631 01:17:14,480 --> 01:17:17,240 So you go over and you grab some water and you take it over to 1632 01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,720 her and you give her the water and she stands up and she just 1633 01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,840 looks at you and then turns around and walks away and 1634 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,360 doesn't say anything. Now. 1635 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,120 Yeah, here's where I want you to, because you did this, I 1636 01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:30,320 think, and I didn't. You can go to Undyne House. 1637 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,560 I never found it. I apparently walked right 1638 01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:34,440 fucking by it, but I never found it. 1639 01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:38,880 Yeah, yeah, it's literally 1 screen over from the screen 1640 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:41,280 where naps to Bluke the Ghost DJ lives. 1641 01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:45,000 So when you go to her house, I do believe, well, you get to 1642 01:17:45,000 --> 01:17:46,120 have dinner with her or something. 1643 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:49,160 Yeah, so there's a scene where basically Papyrus insists you, 1644 01:17:49,160 --> 01:17:52,920 Undine and her, you, he and Undine should be friends. 1645 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:57,520 And so he kind of like, you know, Undine is over there 1646 01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,240 steaming too 'cause she's still kind of pissed off that you beat 1647 01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:02,120 her, right? But she's acting very polite 1648 01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:05,840 'cause you're a guest at her house, and Papyrus leaves, or he 1649 01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:08,920 fakes an emergency and jumps out the window because he's Papyrus. 1650 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,880 And so you're left alone with Undine. 1651 01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,200 And you guys are obviously not getting along. 1652 01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:16,240 She's kind of like, threatening you. 1653 01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:19,080 And Papyrus just kind of sticks his head back in and says, yeah, 1654 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,600 I knew you wouldn't be able to handle this challenge to be 1655 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:23,840 friends. And Undine just immediately like 1656 01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:26,640 to challenge. And the moment she thinks of it 1657 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,880 is like, you know, don't, don't tell me who I can and can't be 1658 01:18:29,880 --> 01:18:31,840 friends with. In fact, we're going to be 1659 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,840 besties. And then she starts trying to 1660 01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,040 teach you how to cook like she taught Papyrus how to cook, 1661 01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:38,800 which means you end up burning her house down. 1662 01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,240 That is fucking fantastic. It's it's an amazing scene. 1663 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,840 It's really funny. Damn, I'm sad I missed that. 1664 01:18:47,480 --> 01:18:48,240 It's good shit. It's good shit. 1665 01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:52,000 I was, by the way, absolutely sure that, like I did, I thought 1666 01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:54,920 that you were more likely to have killed Undine than anyone 1667 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,800 else. I thought you may or may not 1668 01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,720 have with Toriel, but I thought you would definitely kill her 1669 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,120 because she's difficult to deal. With at that point I had told 1670 01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,960 myself I was going to do the pacifist run, no. 1671 01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:07,360 I was trying to figure out why you sent me screenshots. 1672 01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,400 I saw you were level 5 and what I thought you had done because I 1673 01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:12,760 don't know how much experience you get for fights because I 1674 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:14,800 didn't do any. But what I thought you were 1675 01:19:14,800 --> 01:19:18,400 doing was something I also remember doing at one point, or 1676 01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,720 at least I've seen someone do, which is killing the mook 1677 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,160 enemies but sparing the named characters. 1678 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,000 No, I I got all that experience from killing Toriel. 1679 01:19:27,160 --> 01:19:31,440 Wow and did not gain any more throughout the the rest of the 1680 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:31,840 game. Well. 1681 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,240 That's that's pretty good. That also means that like you 1682 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,720 kind of got the worst of both worlds because you didn't get 1683 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:39,000 like the extra experience points for hit points you would have 1684 01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:40,400 gained from getting experience and all that. 1685 01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,680 Nope, Nope. Yeah, I I got a a the the true 1686 01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:45,680 neutral ending. Hey, but to do the true 1687 01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,160 passivist ending, I mean you have to do it all with level 1, 1688 01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,040 so I had even fewer hit points than you, man. 1689 01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:51,560 Shit, you had to struggle a little. 1690 01:19:51,640 --> 01:19:54,320 Bit for sure. So you end up after that in the 1691 01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:56,440 Hotline Lands, which in my opinion had the Best Song in the 1692 01:19:56,440 --> 01:19:59,680 entire game other than actually I think I might like the the Hot 1693 01:19:59,680 --> 01:20:01,480 Land song better than I like Sans song. 1694 01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,920 It's just such a banger. Like Fenris had asked me 1695 01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:08,240 recently to send him some good game music so you can add it to 1696 01:20:08,240 --> 01:20:10,680 a playlist. I ended up sending him the Hot 1697 01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,320 Land song. Yeah, that's, yeah, that one was 1698 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:14,960 really good actually. Just so catchy. 1699 01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,560 It's so good, yeah. Because I feel like the music in 1700 01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,880 Waterfall was kind of melancholy, and then Hotlands 1701 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,760 kind of had a beat too. It just picked up and it was 1702 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,960 just like, okay, I can jam to this. 1703 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,080 And it's I can't remember who you end up having to deal with 1704 01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:31,520 in the Hotlands. Fuck, that's right. 1705 01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:33,520 You have to go through, you have to go through the lab and. 1706 01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:35,960 Here's the part of the game that annoyed the shit out of me the 1707 01:20:35,960 --> 01:20:39,280 most. That God damn scientist yeah Oh 1708 01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:44,320 my God, the fuck every three steps is a pop up with him 1709 01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,520 talking because he installs like the in universe version of 1710 01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:50,320 Twitter. Yeah, onto your phone and I 1711 01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:53,440 guess enabled fucking all notifications for his profile 1712 01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:58,200 because every single step it's like he's posting and like he's 1713 01:20:58,200 --> 01:20:59,800 be like, I need to call them. And he's. 1714 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,040 So he's like, do you remember in high school when you'd really 1715 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,480 like a girl and you wanted to call her but you were super 1716 01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:08,520 nervous about it? Oh man, I don't because you 1717 01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,040 didn't get to see all of the endings and stuff. 1718 01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:14,120 She's like that about almost every character in the game. 1719 01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:17,200 Like, oh man. Oh, yeah, I I saw her have 1720 01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:19,000 interactions with a couple different characters and it was 1721 01:21:19,000 --> 01:21:20,480 all kind of the same, the same gist. 1722 01:21:20,480 --> 01:21:24,880 But yeah, man, it just, it just like was like, all right, I get 1723 01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:26,640 it. At a certain point I was like, 1724 01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:28,040 OK, I get it. Enough with these. 1725 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,080 I'm trying to move forward here. Like shut the fuck. 1726 01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:35,000 Up For me, it kind of became like that that Family Guy Joker 1727 01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,800 hits his knee and. Eventually it got to that point, 1728 01:21:38,000 --> 01:21:41,040 yeah, yeah, I will agree, because it went on long enough 1729 01:21:41,040 --> 01:21:42,760 that eventually it did become like that. 1730 01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,720 And so maybe I had the same run of gamuts that I do with one of 1731 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,960 those Family Guy jokes where it's like, it's funny, then it's 1732 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:50,840 like, all right, when is this gonna be over? 1733 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,160 And then it loops back around to being funny again because it's 1734 01:21:53,160 --> 01:21:55,960 absurd at that point. Yeah, yeah, I'll agree with that 1735 01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,280 because. Like I feel like we're hitting 1736 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,000 some plot beats here, but what we're not really expressing is 1737 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,920 just how God damn funny the game's writing is. 1738 01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:06,600 It is quite this. This was an entertaining romp. 1739 01:22:06,840 --> 01:22:11,000 Absolutely. I loved the the megaton stuff or 1740 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:12,520 megaton stuff. Yeah. 1741 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:16,840 Yeah, Megaton's Fallout 3 Megaton, Yes. 1742 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,600 That's OK, I kept calling him Metatron for some reason so. 1743 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:23,000 Absolutely cracked me up any time when I was going through 1744 01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:25,480 the Hotlands that I would end up in a room that was completely 1745 01:22:25,480 --> 01:22:27,240 black. I was like, all right, here we 1746 01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,480 go. And then Spotlight and there's 1747 01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:30,720 Megaton. And now we're on a different 1748 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:32,800 game show because like the doctor just explained, or the 1749 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:36,560 scientist, I'm going to call him a doctor, they explain they 1750 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,200 created this machine because things kind of got boring around 1751 01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:39,880 here. So they wanted to be 1752 01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:41,280 entertaining. So they created this machine 1753 01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,520 that would entertain people. But they might have done some 1754 01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:49,840 little, you know, changes to him that may have made him a human 1755 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:51,120 hunting, killing, murder machine. 1756 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,240 Yes. So what you? 1757 01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:56,320 But he's a human hunting killer machine that really wants to put 1758 01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:58,040 on a really good television show. 1759 01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,520 Yeah. So what you end up with are 1760 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,240 these game shows that you have to win or die. 1761 01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:06,000 Yeah. And it's just silly. 1762 01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:07,320 And I had. Yeah, it's. 1763 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,520 I adored it, it cracked me up. It's very good. 1764 01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:12,800 It's very good. Like medicine, like we I felt 1765 01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:15,880 like Undine was legitimately intimidating. 1766 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:17,800 Medicine. On the other hand, I was just 1767 01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:20,200 like happy to see him again every time you showed up all. 1768 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:21,600 Right. I know your boss fights probably 1769 01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,800 going to be annoying as shit, but let's do it because this is 1770 01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:28,160 you're entertaining and we can touch on the battle mechanics a 1771 01:23:28,160 --> 01:23:30,840 little bit after we kind of run through this stuff, but like so 1772 01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:31,920 after. Yeah. 1773 01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,520 Do you feel like that's a good idea? 1774 01:23:33,520 --> 01:23:37,800 After you run through and you finally defeat Metatun, he turns 1775 01:23:37,800 --> 01:23:41,560 into his real self, which is like gothic Ziggy Stardust. 1776 01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:45,880 He actually reminded me of Pokémon Sword and Shield. 1777 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:49,000 The the the bad guys, like little punk dudes that would 1778 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:51,960 like have like little kiss face paint and they were like the bad 1779 01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:53,560 guys. Like that's what he kind of 1780 01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:55,360 reminded. I was like, OK, OK. 1781 01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,560 Yeah, he was very glam. Yes, very. 1782 01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,480 Well, you said Ziggy Stardust. That was a really good. 1783 01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:05,120 There's a, a certain member of Kiss I'm trying to think of the 1784 01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:07,120 one with the star over the eye, Paul Stanley. 1785 01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:10,320 He gave me a Paul Stanley meets Ziggy Stardust vibe for sure. 1786 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,040 But yeah, you go through that, you beat him. 1787 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,320 And he, I didn't quite get it because it was like he was 1788 01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:17,200 talking about how he wanted to keep entertaining people and 1789 01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:20,040 everything, but then he told everyone this was his final sign 1790 01:24:20,040 --> 01:24:21,440 off. And then he exploded. 1791 01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:24,000 I was like, well, hold on. I thought he was just saying 1792 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,880 that he was going to continue on. 1793 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,440 I, I, I don't know it, it lost me a little bit there at the 1794 01:24:28,440 --> 01:24:31,040 end. I think that unless something 1795 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,480 very different happened in your game than mine, he shouldn't 1796 01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:35,040 have exploded. Exploded. 1797 01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:36,640 He should have run out of batteries. 1798 01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,600 Oh, I'm sorry, yes, that's that's what happened. 1799 01:24:39,800 --> 01:24:42,880 Because the the the scientist comes up afterwards and says oh, 1800 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,000 no, blah blah. Oh, never mind. 1801 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,080 His battery just ran out. OK, OK, so yeah. 1802 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,760 So I don't know what I'm remembering that blew up. 1803 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,800 Oh, I think it was when I killed Toreal. 1804 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:54,360 She disapparated into nothing. The, the, the, the, the video 1805 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:57,200 game, The Final Fantasy 6 boss fading, Yeah. 1806 01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:59,960 Pix pixelation. Just like Thanos snapped his 1807 01:24:59,960 --> 01:25:02,000 finger, they're disappearing. That's a good way to put it, 1808 01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:03,520 Yeah. It's very, very much like the 1809 01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:06,600 Thanos snap effect. And then in the last little 1810 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,800 area, I don't think the last little area was very memorable 1811 01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:11,200 to me because I don't remember much about it. 1812 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,160 I just remember getting to Ascore, Yeah, and having the 1813 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,440 talk with. Him the core, once you like the 1814 01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:19,960 power core once you get past the Hotlands, yeah, it's basically 1815 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:23,440 just yeah, it's basically you finished the last rent major 1816 01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:24,640 area. Now you're just trying to get 1817 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,720 there. There wasn't like I don't think 1818 01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:29,480 there was a persistent following you a round type thing going on 1819 01:25:29,480 --> 01:25:32,800 there. No, whereas every other area had 1820 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:35,920 its own kind of nemesis, where isn't that one? 1821 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,760 It was more along the lines of you're just trying to reach 1822 01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:40,040 escort. Yeah, I think we we skipped over 1823 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:41,360 it because it happened earlier in the game. 1824 01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:44,760 But I did like the part where you drop down and you're walking 1825 01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:46,880 around and there's like trash everywhere and you go up and you 1826 01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,800 look at the the fighting dummy and it's like just an ordinary 1827 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,360 fighting dummy. Do you want to attack it? 1828 01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,080 And I said no. And it's like you both stare at 1829 01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,440 each other for a while, and then you walk off, and then that 1830 01:25:55,440 --> 01:25:58,560 thing fucking attacks you because it's possessed by a 1831 01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,240 ghost. And that's when Ghost DJ comes 1832 01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:01,640 and clears them away. Yes. 1833 01:26:01,800 --> 01:26:03,840 And it's like, that's when he invites you to his house. 1834 01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,000 And then I went to his house and he's like, I didn't expect, 1835 01:26:06,040 --> 01:26:08,200 actually expect you to show up. Welcome. 1836 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:09,680 That's my TV. Yeah. 1837 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,840 It's like, did you try turning on different tracks and then 1838 01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,040 talking to Netflix? They have a different little 1839 01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:18,360 commentary on how each of the little songs at the bottom of 1840 01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,280 the screen make them feel. Aw man, I wish I didn't know 1841 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:22,920 that because I did switch between some tracks, Ball stated 1842 01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:24,040 in there. But I never went back over and 1843 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,840 talked to him again. There's there's a lot of like 1844 01:26:25,840 --> 01:26:27,040 easy to miss dialogue in the game. 1845 01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,400 There's a ton of stuff. Like I mean, there's a good 1846 01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,400 chance I could replay like replay it and still not see 1847 01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:35,600 everything, especially because I don't want to do the other 1848 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:38,160 route. Yeah, the genocide. 1849 01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:41,760 Slay everybody. The problem is I I like these 1850 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,360 people. They're my friends now. 1851 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,360 Yeah, and the the meta part of the game knows that it. 1852 01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:49,400 This game's got a lot going on in the background that you 1853 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,360 wouldn't expect. So you get to that final boss, 1854 01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,520 you're fighting Asgor, or if you're me and Willie, avoiding 1855 01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,280 his attacks now, I think you have to attack him to a certain 1856 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:00,360 point, right? I don't necessarily want to give 1857 01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,080 away the solution, but. Yeah, so anyway. 1858 01:27:02,440 --> 01:27:05,800 If you're fighting. You deal with Asgor and you 1859 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:10,320 spare him, or he spares you. One of the two and he goes and 1860 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,200 all of a sudden, like the you think the fight's over and 1861 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:15,840 everything's fine and then he just gets killed and Flowy pops 1862 01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:21,800 in and turns out Flowy is the actual final boss of the neutral 1863 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:24,080 playthrough. And then you have to go into his 1864 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,360 fight and the Jesus Christ. If this fight did not have 1865 01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,720 checkpoints, I would have not beaten it and I would have shit 1866 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:34,680 all over this straight up. It's a very it's a way too epic 1867 01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:38,680 fight, almost like it is very anime final, but there's. 1868 01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,560 So much going on and some of his attacks are almost impossible to 1869 01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,080 fucking avoid. In my opinion. 1870 01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:45,280 There are people who are much better at. 1871 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:48,200 This night but I struggle to avoid certain attack patterns 1872 01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:50,120 too. Like there was the one where he 1873 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,520 had like attacks that came from the bottom left and the bottom 1874 01:27:52,520 --> 01:27:54,680 right and then the bottom left whatever and I couldn't figure 1875 01:27:54,680 --> 01:27:57,120 out how to dodge all three. I could like get hit by 1. 1876 01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:59,520 What started fucking me up is I would avoid his vine attack that 1877 01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,240 he shot at you and then he would load the game because he has the 1878 01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:04,960 ability to load and save too. And he would load the game where 1879 01:28:04,960 --> 01:28:07,040 I'm still over there and I would get hit. 1880 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:09,080 I'm like you cheating motherfucker. 1881 01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:12,280 So you, you have to last long enough that there are as many 1882 01:28:12,280 --> 01:28:14,720 rounds as there are these hearts that they have collected because 1883 01:28:14,720 --> 01:28:17,640 they need 7 hearts and they have six of them six rounds. 1884 01:28:18,760 --> 01:28:22,800 And then all the hearts combined at the end and you end up taking 1885 01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,000 down flowy but or you can spare him. 1886 01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,000 And I kept hitting spare and he kept being like, why? 1887 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,160 Just he basically was like fucking kill me, just do it, 1888 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,160 just kill me. And I spared him, spared him, 1889 01:28:33,160 --> 01:28:35,440 spared him, spared him, spared him and then he fucked off. 1890 01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,360 And that was the end of that was the end of the game, if I 1891 01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,720 remember correctly. At that point I was just like, 1892 01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,920 well damn, I didn't get either of the the things I was looking 1893 01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,120 for shit, but it is what it is. I did it to myself. 1894 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:50,400 Well, I mean at this point, you know, the fights and stuff, if 1895 01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:52,240 you wanted to replay it, it probably would take you like 1896 01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:53,560 half as long. That's very true. 1897 01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:55,680 That's very true. I was as I was playing through I 1898 01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,200 was thinking like, I wonder what people speed running this do? 1899 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,520 That's a great question. I'm actually not familiar. 1900 01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,360 I want to take a look what the record is. 1901 01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:05,160 Yeah, I'd be curious. I bet it's like an hour or 1902 01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:08,160 something stupid like that. It probably less than that. 1903 01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:12,360 Actually, it is about an hour, yeah. 1904 01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:19,240 The neutral ending is 51 minutes, Pacifist is one hour 1905 01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:23,920 21, and genocide is one hour and 3. 1906 01:29:24,320 --> 01:29:27,800 God, that's so fast. I I don't know you, you got two 1907 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,360 different endings. So I'd like to hear more about 1908 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:31,480 like what you thought of the different routes that you did 1909 01:29:31,480 --> 01:29:32,040 all. Right. 1910 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:36,040 So it's because of the way the pacifist ending works. 1911 01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:41,400 You sort of pretty much have to get a neutral ending 1st and 1912 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:44,160 then continue to get the passive ending. 1913 01:29:44,200 --> 01:29:46,640 That makes sense, because at the end of the game, Flowey kind of 1914 01:29:46,640 --> 01:29:48,160 pops in. It's like there's other ways to 1915 01:29:48,160 --> 01:29:52,000 do this and kind of hints that there are other routes, so that 1916 01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:54,960 makes that makes sense to me. Yeah, but but if you do it, if 1917 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:58,320 you do basically everything pacifist but you don't get the 1918 01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,960 ending, but you did everything pacifist, you can basically pick 1919 01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:04,120 up from that point, move forward and go in. 1920 01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:07,400 Basically, you end up going into Doctor Alfis's lab and learning 1921 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,240 a lot more back story as to what was going on, and then you could 1922 01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:11,800 use that information to get the true ending. 1923 01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:18,280 OK, OK, so battle mechanics. OK, yeah, this is this is an 1924 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:20,360 interesting hybrid gameplay style. 1925 01:30:20,520 --> 01:30:23,680 It grew on me a little bit, but I mean a little bit there were 1926 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:26,520 certain. Did you find it like super duper 1927 01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:28,240 clunky when you were in the ruins? 1928 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,720 I've really struggled for a while until I had a couple boss 1929 01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:34,120 fights under my belt. I was like everything just 1930 01:30:34,120 --> 01:30:35,760 seemed to move at the wrong speed. 1931 01:30:35,800 --> 01:30:37,400 Yeah. And I wondered if maybe that was 1932 01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:40,480 some input lag or something. I don't really know, but it was, 1933 01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:45,800 it was rough at the start. As I got more into it, it became 1934 01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:50,160 easier, but I wouldn't say that it ever became like one of my 1935 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:54,240 top 10 or even top 20 fighting mechanic that I've done in a 1936 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:56,960 game. It felt like it was there to 1937 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,440 serve a purpose. It wasn't there to be a mechanic 1938 01:30:59,440 --> 01:31:00,480 of the game, if that makes sense. 1939 01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:03,720 Yeah, I feel like for boss fights it made a lot of 1940 01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:06,760 mechanical sense, but I almost feel like the attack patterns 1941 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:08,880 were almost there. More to set up like jokes and 1942 01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:10,800 stuff for the minor mooks, you know? 1943 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,920 100% because like a lot of those were like more so especially for 1944 01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,560 the pacifist route of you figuring out what to say to them 1945 01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,200 in what order and then just having to avoid their attacks. 1946 01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:21,400 Yeah. So that's also kind of the Bane 1947 01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:23,400 conceit of the game. I know we already talked about 1948 01:31:23,400 --> 01:31:26,280 making decisions and stuff, but the Bane idea is there's a fight 1949 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:29,040 button, an acts button and a mercy button. 1950 01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:33,320 And basically, if you if you fight things, you'll kill them, 1951 01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:35,920 you'll gain experience points, you'll get stronger and all 1952 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:38,200 that. If you want to spare them, you 1953 01:31:38,200 --> 01:31:40,680 have to figure out what actions you have to take to basically 1954 01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:42,360 get them dissuaded from fighting. 1955 01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:49,480 Yeah, you do learn at the end of the game what Exp and levels 1956 01:31:49,480 --> 01:31:53,320 actually are. And it's not exactly what you're 1957 01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,240 thinking. I don't remember what Exp is, so 1958 01:31:55,240 --> 01:31:57,520 I'll leave that to your to your imagination. 1959 01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,320 But I do remember that LV was level of violence. 1960 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:02,920 Yep. And it was like, oh, OK, and. 1961 01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:04,760 Exp was execution. Thank you. 1962 01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:06,520 That's what it was. And I remember it was something 1963 01:32:06,520 --> 01:32:10,760 points and I couldn't remember. I'm like my brain kept saying 1964 01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,680 extermination. I'm like, that's not right. 1965 01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:16,320 It's not extermination anyway. Yeah, execution points and your 1966 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:20,440 level of violence. And so you learn at the end of 1967 01:32:20,440 --> 01:32:22,720 that that like, oh, it's not a good thing. 1968 01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:26,200 And it, I feel like the whole thing is like a meta context on 1969 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:29,000 how people normally play video games where it's like, for 1970 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:34,480 example, I looked at this as this guy played Skyrim every 1971 01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:39,000 which way he could and he was flowy in that situation where he 1972 01:32:39,000 --> 01:32:42,040 had gone through and he played Skyrim as passive as possible. 1973 01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:44,840 He went through Skyrim and killed every NBC that he could 1974 01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,680 just because he could. And that's The thing is like 1975 01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,400 when you do things in a video game, you do that because you 1976 01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,040 can, because you do, you have this suspension of disbelief 1977 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,240 that you can run with and put yourself in the world. 1978 01:32:55,240 --> 01:32:58,000 But when that suspension of disbelief on your second or 1979 01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,680 third playthrough starts to fade away, now you're just a dude 1980 01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:02,960 playing a video game and you realize you're playing a video 1981 01:33:03,080 --> 01:33:04,920 game, you're no longer invested in the story and in the 1982 01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:07,080 characters, Then you start being like, what if? 1983 01:33:07,280 --> 01:33:11,280 And that's I think what a lot of the context and meta meta going 1984 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:14,480 on in this game was, was commentary on that and the way 1985 01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:17,360 gamers are. Because even that that fucking 1986 01:33:17,360 --> 01:33:20,000 scene that you talked about that you saw in the demo where you 1987 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,920 kill Torio and then you reload. And instead of going back in and 1988 01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:26,240 seeing Torio, you see Flowy who decides to be like, Oh, I know 1989 01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:29,200 what you did last time and there's no going back from it 1990 01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:32,480 kind of thing. And that's intense, because how 1991 01:33:32,480 --> 01:33:34,400 many times in Skyrim have you been like? 1992 01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:38,080 I'll just quick load then I'll kill Mazim A. 100% what I was 1993 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,200 about to say is kill kill Mazim and then just quick load like it 1994 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,400 never happened. Undertale says fuck you, you 1995 01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,680 can't do that in this game and I I like that. 1996 01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:49,720 That's a cool mechanic. It's kind of like in Final 1997 01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:53,840 Fantasy when you make your way up the Tonberry Tower to try to 1998 01:33:53,840 --> 01:33:56,360 get Odin and the Tonberry King. When you finally get to the 1999 01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:00,840 Tonberry King, he has that move that hits you, and the more 2000 01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:04,360 enemies that you've killed in the game, it does more damage to 2001 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,280 you. Or it might be the more Tom 2002 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,000 Berries you've killed, but it's one of the two. 2003 01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,960 And yeah, yeah, bro, you want to talk about if you spend some 2004 01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,200 time farming some Tom berries for some experience and then you 2005 01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,880 try to go fight him and he hits your characters for like 99,000, 2006 01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,440 there's no surviving it. He's one shot in everybody and 2007 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,360 that's another. I could totally see this game 2008 01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,680 having a mechanic like that and it kind of does. 2009 01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,760 Or if you go through and kill everybody, you end up having to 2010 01:34:30,760 --> 01:34:36,360 fight Sans, who is notoriously the toughest boss fight in this 2011 01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:39,240 game by far. Like, here's some things I knew 2012 01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:41,640 going into this beforehand. There are three different routes 2013 01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:43,920 you can take. You only get to fight Sans. 2014 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,720 And the worst route that you can take is boss fight as hard as 2015 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,080 shit. And this and the theme for it 2016 01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:52,240 goes hard as fuck. Yeah, it's funny too, cuz like 2017 01:34:52,280 --> 01:34:54,840 if you only know a few things about the game, Sands is like 2018 01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:57,320 the meme joke character who mainly just sits around and 2019 01:34:57,320 --> 01:34:59,040 makes puns and slacks off from work. 2020 01:34:59,320 --> 01:35:01,840 So when he does eventually reveal a little of his power, 2021 01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:04,240 which he does in the normal route too, like there's some 2022 01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:06,800 moments where he says some stuff, you're like, oh shit, 2023 01:35:07,080 --> 01:35:11,000 this guy is a lot more than he likes to let on. 100%, If I had 2024 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,760 to characterize, I think Flowy is the devil on a gamer's 2025 01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:17,680 shoulder and Sands is the Angel on a gamer's shoulder. 2026 01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:20,840 Yeah, that's how I kind of looked at it after I had pieced 2027 01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:24,280 all everything together. Because I Full disclosure, when 2028 01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:26,520 I beat this game and got the neutral ending, I did go watch a 2029 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:28,480 video that talked about the other two endings and things 2030 01:35:28,480 --> 01:35:30,160 like that because I wanted to be somewhat informed. 2031 01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:34,080 And yeah, there's a lot more to this game than you would give it 2032 01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,160 credit for for just being a little indie darling. 2033 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:39,200 That being said. Yeah, I'm glad you did watch 2034 01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,720 those two, just because there's a lot more story in the pacifist 2035 01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:43,920 ending especially, and I'm thinking there might be in the 2036 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,000 genocide ending too. I just don't know if I have it 2037 01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:48,120 in me to go. Ahead and do it is a good amount 2038 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:51,880 in the genocide ending as well. That being said, I think this 2039 01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:54,200 game would have had a bigger impact on me had I played it 2040 01:35:54,280 --> 01:35:56,880 before it became part of the zeitgeist. 2041 01:35:57,080 --> 01:35:58,520 Yeah, I completely understand that. 2042 01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:01,960 I think I'm a little lucky that when I hit the demo was before 2043 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,880 this game was that huge. And like even then, I felt a 2044 01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,960 little bit scared catching up to it now, just because it's like I 2045 01:36:07,960 --> 01:36:10,680 had 10 years to catch up to this game and I still haven't 2046 01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,000 finished it. I hope. 2047 01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,320 I hope I haven't missed something. 2048 01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:19,760 And I mean no offense to the game, but as a game that is one 2049 01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:23,280 of those types of games, I did enjoy this more than I enjoyed 2050 01:36:23,480 --> 01:36:26,880 Outer Wilds, but I don't remember what I rated that. 2051 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:30,200 So don't take rating comparisons between the two of them into 2052 01:36:30,440 --> 01:36:32,760 anything. And again, like I said, that's 2053 01:36:32,760 --> 01:36:34,960 not taking away we. Give numerical scores to games. 2054 01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,720 That means that we are rating it in in class, in family, and in a 2055 01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,360 lot of other ways too, with lots of weird limitations. 2056 01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:43,680 And our numbers mean nothing because we're just a couple of 2057 01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:45,800 Jag offs on the Internet. Yeah, that's. 2058 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:48,960 Don't don't at me unless I say that Toronto triggers is 7 then. 2059 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,280 We're the we're the whose line is in any way of game rating 2060 01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,280 points don't matter. But again, that's not taking. 2061 01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:56,400 That's why we give them a, That's why we give them a scale 2062 01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,120 every week. Because technically speaking, 9 2063 01:36:59,120 --> 01:37:02,720 Doom guys out of 10 Cyber Demons isn't the same as Doctor Peppers 2064 01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:04,800 out of 10. Thousand, That is very true. 2065 01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:07,160 I'm not taking anything away from Outer Wilds. 2066 01:37:07,160 --> 01:37:09,880 I do think that was a good a good game, just wasn't for me. 2067 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,760 I understand. But I did enjoy this more. 2068 01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:15,280 OK. So is there is there anything 2069 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,840 else that you want to touch on? No, I think we did a great job 2070 01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:22,160 of covering most of the main block points, the general of 2071 01:37:22,360 --> 01:37:23,720 vibes of the game. I do OK. 2072 01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,680 Actually, I do want to bring up something about the music real 2073 01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:27,960 quick, which is just not only do we mention that the music is 2074 01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,280 incredible, but one of the reasons the music is so good is 2075 01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:33,880 that it uses like themes and motifs for each of the 2076 01:37:33,880 --> 01:37:36,560 characters and for each of the things that happen in it. 2077 01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:40,320 So there's like the boss fight theme, like when you fight the 2078 01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:44,960 mad dummy versus when you fight Muffet the spider, both of them 2079 01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:52,400 have the melody like, but like in the mad W one, it's like got 2080 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,200 a kind of a swing jazz feel to it. 2081 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,800 Whereas in the spider dance version, it's like this really 2082 01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,800 up tempo and frantic song. And like they do a lot of 2083 01:37:59,800 --> 01:38:03,160 reusing individual motifs for different parts of the game. 2084 01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:04,720 I'm glad you brought up the spider. 2085 01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:07,520 How did you handle that fight? I didn't have to fight her. 2086 01:38:07,680 --> 01:38:11,880 You Oh my God I OK so I streamed some of this game when I was 2087 01:38:11,880 --> 01:38:15,400 playing it to a friend who told me after the fight how I could 2088 01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:17,960 have avoided the fight. Earlier in the game I had 2089 01:38:17,960 --> 01:38:20,920 randomly come across a spider bake sale and. 2090 01:38:21,320 --> 01:38:24,720 Made by spiders for spiders. Of spiders items were expensive 2091 01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,320 but I just happened to have a a decent little bit of gold and I 2092 01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,640 bought 1 and I ended up using it to heal myself in a fight or 2093 01:38:31,640 --> 01:38:33,680 something like that. When I got to that fight with 2094 01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:37,720 the spider, we're like going through it and suddenly she just 2095 01:38:37,720 --> 01:38:41,520 gets a message from the other spiders that tell her that I had 2096 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,480 bought a baked good. And suddenly I was chill and 2097 01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:47,960 they all went away. And I'm like, all right, all 2098 01:38:47,960 --> 01:38:50,360 right. I was expecting something. 2099 01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,080 I just, I was just like, no, you're good. 2100 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:55,000 I'm like, oh, that's cool. Me buying that expensive item 2101 01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,160 fucking paid off. Cool. 2102 01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:57,960 Like usually in games, it doesn't. 2103 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:01,000 Yeah. So I was happy about that. 2104 01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,400 Yeah, I think that's cool too, is there's a lot of things where 2105 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:06,600 there's more than one solution to things, and I think that's 2106 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,040 neat. I do want to touch on one of the 2107 01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,800 that was a joke and a puzzle. It was Papyrus when he goes 2108 01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:15,080 through the painstaking detail of telling you about that puzzle 2109 01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:18,120 that he set up, where each of the colors does something 2110 01:39:18,120 --> 01:39:20,480 different and you have to make your way through. 2111 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,120 And then it goes through all its randomization, and the only ones 2112 01:39:23,120 --> 01:39:25,240 that you can walk on are pink. And then when it's done 2113 01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:27,720 randomizing, there's just a straight pink line through the 2114 01:39:27,720 --> 01:39:30,240 middle of it. So I didn't commit anything that 2115 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,720 he said to memory. Yeah, I I completely got gotten 2116 01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:35,680 by this. Later on in the game, you end up 2117 01:39:35,680 --> 01:39:38,160 in a spot where you have to remember what the fuck he said, 2118 01:39:38,160 --> 01:39:40,120 because you run into one of those traps that's not going to 2119 01:39:40,120 --> 01:39:42,680 just let you across. And boy, let me tell you, that 2120 01:39:42,680 --> 01:39:45,720 part fucked me up. Damn it, baby. 2121 01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:46,360 No. Yeah. 2122 01:39:47,440 --> 01:39:49,280 That's a good goof. Yeah, there, there are a lot of 2123 01:39:49,280 --> 01:39:51,800 good goofs in this game. This is a goofy game and I will 2124 01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,480 give it that, Yeah. What would you like to give this 2125 01:39:55,480 --> 01:39:58,360 as a rating, my good Sir? Ben I feel like rating this is 2126 01:39:58,360 --> 01:40:01,080 kind of difficult just because, again, like we said, this game 2127 01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:04,280 has had 10 years to basically become half the memes on the 2128 01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:07,200 Internet. I will say that after I finished 2129 01:40:07,200 --> 01:40:09,800 I immediately went and downloaded the Delta Rune demo. 2130 01:40:10,200 --> 01:40:13,720 I probably am gonna pick right back up and keep on playing the 2131 01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:14,440 series. It did make me. 2132 01:40:14,440 --> 01:40:17,920 Interested in trying Delta Rune because that's been Delta Rune 2133 01:40:17,920 --> 01:40:21,480 is like right there with a silk song or it's like I've heard 2134 01:40:21,480 --> 01:40:23,280 people talking about it for so long now. 2135 01:40:23,440 --> 01:40:26,000 I mean it's it's coming though. The thing, I mean both of them 2136 01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:28,200 are coming, but like The thing is you can actually play 2 2137 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:32,040 chapters of Delta Rune right now out of seven and each one is 2138 01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:35,360 basically a complete game. So at least that's my 2139 01:40:35,360 --> 01:40:37,600 understanding at least, like a complete game of the same sense 2140 01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,560 as Undertale was. So it's a little hard to rate 2141 01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,560 this game because it's been around for a long time and it's 2142 01:40:41,560 --> 01:40:44,280 kind of already everyone understands a little bit about 2143 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:48,040 it at least. But I would say that for me 2144 01:40:48,040 --> 01:40:51,720 personally, what I really wanted out of it was, you know, I 2145 01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:53,720 wasn't as worried about the combat system. 2146 01:40:53,720 --> 01:40:56,160 And I do think that the combat system does deliver in boss 2147 01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:59,560 fights, and mostly doesn't outside of that, except for to 2148 01:40:59,560 --> 01:41:02,600 set up jokes and stuff. I think the jokes are funny. 2149 01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:06,000 I think the game's writing is good, really good actually. 2150 01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:08,320 Especially because it does that same thing that Yakuza does, 2151 01:41:08,480 --> 01:41:11,280 where it uses humor to set up more emotional beats later on in 2152 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,400 the game. And I think the music is 2153 01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,360 singular. Like I genuinely think that even 2154 01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:20,040 in the proud tradition of RPGs having incredible music, this 2155 01:41:20,040 --> 01:41:24,160 one deserves special mention. I don't really know what scale 2156 01:41:24,160 --> 01:41:28,120 to rate it on on the grounds that 7 hour long bullet hell RPG 2157 01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:33,480 is not a genre, but if I had to give it a score I think in the 2158 01:41:33,480 --> 01:41:36,880 end I'd give it 9 spider Donuts out of 10 spider siders. 2159 01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:40,720 OK, I think that's fair. So I liked it. 2160 01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:42,640 I didn't absolutely love it, right? 2161 01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:45,280 But I did enjoy my time with it. I don't regret having played it. 2162 01:41:45,400 --> 01:41:47,440 Like, maybe I regret playing some of the games that we've 2163 01:41:47,440 --> 01:41:51,320 done for the show Blair Witch. I'm looking at you. 2164 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,160 Yeah. There were things about it I 2165 01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:55,800 really enjoyed. There were things about it that 2166 01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,040 annoyed me. We touched on that kind of 2167 01:41:58,040 --> 01:41:59,680 stuff. The music. 2168 01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,200 Fantastic. So that that bumps it up a 2169 01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,520 little for me because I'm a fucking music head. 2170 01:42:05,520 --> 01:42:09,800 But I don't know if this game could have possibly ever lived 2171 01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:14,200 up to the hype that has been built around it in pop culture 2172 01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:18,000 over the years. So I'm going to give it a 2173 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:20,880 strong. Now like again, don't compare 2174 01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:22,800 this to other ratings. This is something I'm giving it 2175 01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:30,080 a strong 7.75 sans out of 10 papyrus, with the caveat that if 2176 01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:34,040 I go back and get another ending, I may bump it up to an 8 2177 01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:37,240 or an 8 1/2 just depending. But I don't see this game ever 2178 01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,320 getting to that high level for me. 2179 01:42:39,480 --> 01:42:43,880 And that is just a simple fact of it's not that style of game 2180 01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:45,760 that I normally go to, if that makes any sense. 2181 01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:47,880 Yeah, it is. It isn't built to be one of your 2182 01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:49,760 favorite games, and it's a. Game you had a good time 2183 01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:53,000 exactly. So yeah, Undertale, the indie 2184 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:55,040 darling. I don't think it ever could have 2185 01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,360 lived up to the hype for me, but that being said, had I played 2186 01:42:58,360 --> 01:43:00,720 this before the hype, I probably would have. 2187 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:03,280 It would have easily probably been an in 8 1/2, at least for 2188 01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:06,240 me, so I'll leave it at that 7.75. 2189 01:43:06,520 --> 01:43:08,760 If only we were hanging out 10 years ago and I would have sent 2190 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:10,360 you the demo the same time I played it, man. 2191 01:43:10,760 --> 01:43:14,160 Right, so we did have at least one question. 2192 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:17,800 Yeah, let me see. Actually, I think we missed 2193 01:43:17,800 --> 01:43:21,640 questions last time. So we got 123. 2194 01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:22,440 We got a few. We got a few. 2195 01:43:22,440 --> 01:43:29,800 OK, Fenris, you find a suitcase, it's $750,000 and one hundreds 2196 01:43:29,800 --> 01:43:33,000 in a Bush next to the freeway. You can tell it's been there at 2197 01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:35,040 least a year. How do you integrate this in 2198 01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:37,040 your life without raising any red flags? 2199 01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:39,600 Fenner said. What mean like claim the money 2200 01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:42,080 without it, without getting audited or getting copied? 2201 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:45,640 So Fenner said an example for for him, every six months, he'd 2202 01:43:45,640 --> 01:43:48,520 put 1000 of it into ACD. That's tricky. 2203 01:43:48,520 --> 01:43:51,040 You're basically asking us for advice on money laundering. 2204 01:43:52,360 --> 01:43:54,960 I think it's in, it's in hundreds. 2205 01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:56,800 I'm just going to Tony Soprano that shit. 2206 01:43:56,800 --> 01:43:58,960 I'm going to take a big bag of it and I'm going to stick it in 2207 01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:00,480 the closet. I'm take a big bag of it and I'm 2208 01:44:00,480 --> 01:44:02,880 going to stick it up in the air duct. 2209 01:44:02,880 --> 01:44:05,680 That's not real. I'm going to put someone in my 2210 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,320 duck feed like, you know, I'm just going to like odds. 2211 01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,160 I'm not putting that shit anywhere in the bank. 2212 01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,680 That is going to stay paper money and it is going to stay 2213 01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:16,000 well hidden and I'm going to pull it out and use it when 2214 01:44:16,000 --> 01:44:18,280 necessary. But never like I'm not going to 2215 01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:21,600 pull out, you know, $20,000 and just go do something that's 2216 01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,080 going to draw a red flag. No, I'm just going to that would 2217 01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:26,720 be I'm set. I'm going to go get a part time 2218 01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:29,080 job and and live somewhat comfortably. 2219 01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:33,680 Yeah, I'm thinking my plan would be really basic and not an 2220 01:44:33,680 --> 01:44:34,960 efficient way to handle it at all. 2221 01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:38,800 But probably just take those hundreds and like every now and 2222 01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,640 then just pull out a single hundred, take it to a gas 2223 01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:43,920 station somewhere in town, be like, hey, can you break this? 2224 01:44:44,080 --> 01:44:47,200 And you know, just use a little at a time. 2225 01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:49,800 Yeah, for sure. Now, what you could do with it 2226 01:44:49,800 --> 01:44:53,080 is you could take $750,000 and go buy 750. 2227 01:44:53,160 --> 01:44:55,160 Now hear me out on this. They might be marked bills, 2228 01:44:55,400 --> 01:44:56,440 right? So you take them. 2229 01:44:56,640 --> 01:44:59,040 Yeah, right. You go buy $750,000 worth of 2230 01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,600 cocaine. You can take that and sell that 2231 01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:04,840 to someone else maybe if you want to get it wholesale and 2232 01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:08,120 maybe you make back so you. Wholesale like from Costco? 2233 01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,080 You found this money, so it's like easy come, easy go, right? 2234 01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:13,720 So you buy $750,000 worth of cocaine. 2235 01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:17,400 You go up to some dealer and you say hey, I have $750,000 worth 2236 01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:20,600 of cocaine, I'll sell it to you for $700,000 cash. 2237 01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,320 They then hand you $700,000 cash. 2238 01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,360 It's dirty money, but it ain't Mark Bills. 2239 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:28,360 I feel like you're treating one risk for two risks, yeah. 2240 01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,840 It's a, it's a scheme here. We're we're making a movie, 2241 01:45:31,120 --> 01:45:33,120 right? We're being like the dude from a 2242 01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,560 blow. We're Johnny Depp in this shit 2243 01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:40,440 right now. So you didn't You have $750,000 2244 01:45:40,440 --> 01:45:43,760 in cash that you still have to launder somehow, but it's no 2245 01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:46,280 longer marked bills. I feel like you've barely helped 2246 01:45:46,280 --> 01:45:48,960 our case at all. But it sounded cool anyway. 2247 01:45:49,120 --> 01:45:51,560 That's how I would do it, Finn. It's it sounded like it sounded 2248 01:45:51,560 --> 01:45:53,080 like a great way to get arrested. 2249 01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:55,520 It sounded like a great way to look like a cop and get shot. 2250 01:45:56,760 --> 01:46:01,200 Oh my God, he's a cap. Oh my God. 2251 01:46:01,880 --> 01:46:03,360 So this next one comes in from Adam. 2252 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:08,480 Best movement slash traversal in a video game despite Jeff The 2253 01:46:08,480 --> 01:46:10,040 Witcher 3. I'm just kidding. 2254 01:46:11,480 --> 01:46:13,400 Best movement. Overall movement. 2255 01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,040 I'm. You know what man, this is going 2256 01:46:16,040 --> 01:46:18,280 to be a weird answer because this this can't be the correct 2257 01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:19,720 answer. And I'll probably think of a 2258 01:46:19,720 --> 01:46:21,920 million better answers off the top of my head later. 2259 01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,280 But as far as games that felt really, really good just to 2260 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:27,760 navigate around to the point where I didn't even use the fast 2261 01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:30,120 travel system, Marvel Spider Man, man. 2262 01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:34,760 Honestly I was going to toss it up between Spider Man and more 2263 01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:40,240 recent Assassin's Creed games. The ability to like just parkour 2264 01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:43,360 climb stuff in the Assassin's Creed games has gotten so 2265 01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:46,360 fucking smooth. And then you take that and add 2266 01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,520 web swinging to it in Spider man. 2267 01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:50,520 And your chances of winning classic go down. 2268 01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,080 And then Dr. Rock comes and he's fat. 2269 01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:58,960 He's got 8 arms, 12.5% chance of each arm. 2270 01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:02,760 And Rhino's there, but we know he's not even going to try. 2271 01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:10,480 So you had me and talk talk and you got 126% chance of Peter 2272 01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:15,360 Parker coming out on top. At Sinister 6, my partner will 2273 01:47:15,360 --> 01:47:17,720 shock the world because he is the shocker. 2274 01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,760 Oh man, no Spider man. A great shout, dude, because 2275 01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:23,680 that game's yeah. What's funny is that a few 2276 01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:25,080 things happened. I know we talked about this when 2277 01:47:25,080 --> 01:47:27,760 we did this the game, the game for the show, but like a few 2278 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,240 things happened between the PS4 version and then like the re 2279 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:33,200 release for PS5. They like switched Peter Parker 2280 01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,120 for one. So like it's a completely 2281 01:47:35,120 --> 01:47:38,240 different rendered actor. It's just very strange, right 2282 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:43,720 yes two loading got so fast. So on the PS4, when you fast 2283 01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,320 travelled, there would be a whole cutscene of like Spider 2284 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,840 Man in his suit sitting on the subway and he'd either be like 2285 01:47:49,840 --> 01:47:53,080 playing a game on his phone or like an old lady would be like 2286 01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:56,200 asleep with their head on Spider Man while he's sitting on the 2287 01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:58,600 subway. But nowadays everything loads so 2288 01:47:58,600 --> 01:48:01,800 fast that you would hit fast travel and it would show Spider 2289 01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:05,200 Man in a subway car for like a split fucking second and then 2290 01:48:05,200 --> 01:48:06,320 boom. And then you'd be where you're 2291 01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,680 going. So like those cutscenes they 2292 01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:12,200 made are just like no longer necessary because of how fast 2293 01:48:12,200 --> 01:48:16,400 things load now. All right, so our next question, 2294 01:48:17,040 --> 01:48:19,560 what is a boss that you, and this comes in from Adam as well, 2295 01:48:19,720 --> 01:48:21,760 what is a boss that you had to kill but wish you didn't have 2296 01:48:21,760 --> 01:48:22,920 to? Like in this game. 2297 01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:26,920 I think just in general. Like man, that's a good 2298 01:48:26,920 --> 01:48:28,960 question. There are definitely a lot of 2299 01:48:28,960 --> 01:48:31,840 like there had it had to be this way type of moments in games 2300 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:33,480 where it's like, did it really though? 2301 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,920 Yeah, I'm gonna use the example that I use a mod to avoid In 2302 01:48:37,920 --> 01:48:39,160 Skyrim. There's a mod called The 2303 01:48:39,160 --> 01:48:41,160 Parthenax Dilemma. Oh, that's funny. 2304 01:48:41,680 --> 01:48:46,160 Because in order to get an ending you either have to join 2305 01:48:46,160 --> 01:48:49,640 the blades and kill Parthenax, or spare Parthenax and be banned 2306 01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,400 from the blades forever. Why not both? 2307 01:48:51,480 --> 01:48:53,400 Why not spare him and be able to join the blades? 2308 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,600 Because he's obviously not an evil dragon. 2309 01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:58,280 But they say that all Dragons are evil so it's kind of a cop 2310 01:48:58,280 --> 01:48:59,480 out answer. Because that's a popular one. 2311 01:48:59,480 --> 01:49:01,560 But that is definitely the one that always comes to mind when I 2312 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:03,160 think of about a boss that I don't want to kill. 2313 01:49:03,440 --> 01:49:07,200 Willie wants to let the Icon of Sin run free in a frolic in. 2314 01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,400 A. Like in a field of flowers. 2315 01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:11,640 That's a bad answer. He's just going to step on you. 2316 01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:19,880 Step on me, icon of sin, mommy. Man, I'm actually really 2317 01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,840 blinking. I swear I had like 100 ideas 2318 01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:24,200 running in my head and none of them are coming to me now. 2319 01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:27,160 I don't know, I feel like there's this whole kind of games 2320 01:49:27,160 --> 01:49:30,640 where you feel bad about the final boss, but you have to do 2321 01:49:30,640 --> 01:49:33,360 it and I just can't name. One, you were supposed to be the 2322 01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:36,360 chosen 1. I don't know. 2323 01:49:36,360 --> 01:49:37,240 I'm kind of sleepy. I don't go. 2324 01:49:37,240 --> 01:49:39,680 That's for this. Move on, we're almost there if 2325 01:49:39,680 --> 01:49:41,280 you This comes in from Adam as well. 2326 01:49:41,440 --> 01:49:44,520 If you could create a sequel to Undertale, what would you change 2327 01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:46,760 gameplay wise and where would you go plot wise? 2328 01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:51,120 I would probably make it use a three, three people in a party 2329 01:49:51,120 --> 01:49:54,200 battle system. I'm just, I'm just describing 2330 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:55,640 Delta Rune. There's already kind of a 2331 01:49:55,640 --> 01:49:56,480 sequel. It's Delta Rune. 2332 01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,440 If I was going to do a sequel to Undertale, I think it would I 2333 01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:02,600 would make it more about the dialogue, less about the battle 2334 01:50:02,600 --> 01:50:05,120 mechanics. You would change it to a visual 2335 01:50:05,120 --> 01:50:06,640 novel, basically. Actually, that's a. 2336 01:50:06,640 --> 01:50:09,960 Visual novel with a little more interaction than some of the 2337 01:50:09,960 --> 01:50:11,800 like the the sound novel that we play. 2338 01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,480 Yeah, but. So any interaction then? 2339 01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:18,520 I would, yeah. I actually like the way that 2340 01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,600 that rants game that I was talking about earlier handled 2341 01:50:22,400 --> 01:50:24,400 the combat. It's not great, but it's cool. 2342 01:50:24,520 --> 01:50:28,360 So I could see that working in a way with like a something that's 2343 01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:29,960 good. But I wanted to focus more on 2344 01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:32,000 the the storytelling in Undertale because I think that 2345 01:50:32,000 --> 01:50:35,600 that's where it shined, yeah. Given more more room to make 2346 01:50:35,600 --> 01:50:38,920 goofs and jokes and play great. And as far as plot wise, I mean, 2347 01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:41,480 let's go straight Doom 2 on it. The monsters are up on the 2348 01:50:41,480 --> 01:50:45,200 surface and everything's going fine, but then something bad 2349 01:50:45,200 --> 01:50:48,280 happens and shit goes haywire. Yeah, a lot of ways you could 2350 01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,320 handle that. And I think that like I'm I'm 2351 01:50:50,440 --> 01:50:52,880 very interested in seeing the monsters on the surface story 2352 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:54,640 because that's a hell of a cliffhanger. 2353 01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,440 This next comes in from Dane, and this is the last question. 2354 01:50:58,280 --> 01:51:01,800 Assuming that you didn't and he's correct, could you ever 2355 01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:04,240 bring yourself to do a full genocide run in Undertale? 2356 01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:06,320 I am. I would really have to brace 2357 01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:09,200 myself for it, man. I would really have to work up 2358 01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:12,960 to it because like I said, I really found myself getting 2359 01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,120 quite attached to all these characters and I'd had to bring 2360 01:51:15,120 --> 01:51:17,920 myself to do. It's just a game mode, which 2361 01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:21,520 currently I'm maybe a little too attached to do, you know? 2362 01:51:21,640 --> 01:51:24,880 I think that I could run through and do a genocide run if I did 2363 01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,640 it before I write a passive this run, get it out of the way 2364 01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:31,600 before I go through and like, so I don't know if I could do it 2365 01:51:31,600 --> 01:51:33,400 now because I tried a pacifist run. 2366 01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:36,240 I failed at it, but I try. But yeah. 2367 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:40,920 So that is it for this episode. Let me pull up the stuff for the 2368 01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:42,920 end. But before that, we have what 2369 01:51:42,920 --> 01:51:46,120 we're doing next week. So we're going to, at least for 2370 01:51:46,120 --> 01:51:49,720 the time being, run. We're going to run it back to 2371 01:51:49,720 --> 01:51:51,080 the way things kind of were back in the day. 2372 01:51:51,080 --> 01:51:53,360 We're going to run weekly for here for a little bit. 2373 01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:55,520 Of course, with the new job that Willie got, if things change, 2374 01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:59,280 then we'll go back to bi weekly. And that's, that's OK, But we're 2375 01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,920 going to do weekly and for longer games, we're going to 2376 01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,840 bust them into parts. Short game polls will still be 2377 01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:06,480 there. So we'll do like opening 2378 01:52:06,480 --> 01:52:09,840 thoughts, short game Part 2 or whatever, you know, can go into 2379 01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:12,480 it after that. But our our game next week 2380 01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:14,960 should be a lot of fun. It's going to be the pole 2381 01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,840 winner, which is Jurassic World Evolution. 2382 01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:21,680 This is a theme park management game, kind of in the style of 2383 01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,320 like a Two point hospital or a Zoo Tycoon. 2384 01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:26,800 Yep, yes, Sir. It's like if you ever back in 2385 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:28,840 the day, ladies and gentlemen, if you had a PlayStation two or 2386 01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:31,640 an Xbox and you had Operation or Jurassic Park, Operation 2387 01:52:31,640 --> 01:52:33,680 Genesis, it is very much like that. 2388 01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,400 Also, if you played like Planet Zoo, think that, but with 2389 01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:37,880 dinosaurs. It's really cool. 2390 01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:41,400 I, I look forward to us playing Jurassic World Evolution 1, but 2391 01:52:41,400 --> 01:52:43,840 the day that we play Jurassic World Evolution 2 is going to be 2392 01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:46,800 a step up because that's where they added aquatic dinosaurs and 2393 01:52:46,800 --> 01:52:48,600 those are real cool. Those are real cool. 2394 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:51,440 Megalodon. Yeah, you can. 2395 01:52:51,440 --> 01:52:53,120 Actually, you can. You can do megalodons, they're 2396 01:52:53,120 --> 01:52:56,960 in that. But yeah, so if you want to join 2397 01:52:57,200 --> 01:53:00,680 the Discord and such where all the good shenanigans happen, 2398 01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:05,080 that is bit dot LY slash TSMP Discord, all capital letters 2399 01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:07,600 that'll get you invited in and you can come and vote on the 2400 01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:10,800 polls. Like I said, Jurassic World 2401 01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,760 Evolution 1, not the last one, but it is the last winner that 2402 01:53:13,760 --> 01:53:16,800 the the next winner that we're playing the current poll up 2403 01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:18,400 right now. I'm I don't even need to tell 2404 01:53:18,400 --> 01:53:20,480 anybody what it is because there's only one game. 2405 01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:24,240 This this list is a banger of games and there's only one game 2406 01:53:24,240 --> 01:53:27,000 on it that's going to win right. So we got Grand Theft Auto 3 2407 01:53:27,200 --> 01:53:32,360 sedeki unreal tournament 3 Black Edition super mega baseball four 2408 01:53:32,520 --> 01:53:36,280 and then the one that the only description I gave for it in the 2409 01:53:36,280 --> 01:53:39,880 description was and then there is fire Dark Souls remastered, 2410 01:53:40,040 --> 01:53:42,440 which has all but one vote so far. 2411 01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:46,720 Ol Lone Jeff voted for unreal tournament 3, but Dark Souls is 2412 01:53:46,720 --> 01:53:48,280 winning. Dark Souls is probably going to 2413 01:53:48,280 --> 01:53:50,400 win. Dane will be here for Dark 2414 01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,160 Souls. We're trying to rope in a fourth 2415 01:53:53,360 --> 01:53:55,480 that will leave as a surprise for now because it hasn't been 2416 01:53:55,480 --> 01:53:57,600 confirmed. So don't want to put any 2417 01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:00,520 pressure, but there is a fourth possibly joining for that, Dark 2418 01:54:00,520 --> 01:54:02,840 Souls Remastered. If that wins, I'm going to say 2419 01:54:02,840 --> 01:54:04,120 win. It wins because it's not going 2420 01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:06,160 to lose. Dane has already threatened the 2421 01:54:06,160 --> 01:54:09,080 entire discord that if Dark Souls loses, he will post nudes 2422 01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:12,040 and ain't nobody want to see that according to Dane. 2423 01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:16,600 So you know, check out the website bit dot LY slash the 2424 01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,800 Steam Machine podcast kept up to date by Dane Patreon. 2425 01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,240 You want to donate to the show really means a lot, especially 2426 01:54:22,240 --> 01:54:23,480 right now while I'm looking for a job. 2427 01:54:23,480 --> 01:54:25,720 It helps out a lot with keeping the lights on around here. 2428 01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:29,680 Patreon.com the Steam Machine podcast the dollar or more a 2429 01:54:29,680 --> 01:54:32,360 month gives you the episodes early at ad free with the extra 2430 01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:35,400 Patreon banter in the beginning just for our Patreon sections. 2431 01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:38,880 And if you donate $10 or more you get your name read on each 2432 01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:40,800 and every episode like these wonderful people. 2433 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,080 Nate Sir Cogsworth, the 7th of Juniper Jeff, the original 2434 01:54:43,080 --> 01:54:45,000 expendable Mr. Syllables, Old Jiffy Lube. 2435 01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,760 Also he's a duck and has bad taste in video games. 2436 01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:51,520 A research a research Adam shout out to his podcast with Finney 2437 01:54:51,760 --> 01:54:55,080 Specter approved team retrogue. 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Willie, is there anything else 2449 01:55:22,840 --> 01:55:24,960 that you would like to say to these people before we come back 2450 01:55:24,960 --> 01:55:28,720 in a week with some Dino talk? Until the next time, everybody, 2451 01:55:29,560 --> 01:55:30,200 take it easy.