1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,520 A handcuffed suspect sits across from police drenched in sweat. 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,600 But instead of showing fear, he casually smiles and asks for his 3 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:11,520 ex-girlfriend, the woman he just tried to stab, to be his lawyer. 4 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:26,530 12581 Detained Senate What's going on, man, Man, just hang 5 00:00:26,530 --> 00:00:28,130 out. You, man, you sweating? 6 00:00:28,410 --> 00:00:29,810 You all right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 7 00:00:29,970 --> 00:00:36,120 Oh, my kid got she's got Lucas and so she has like some sticks 8 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:38,320 and stuff or she don't get it if she didn't get it. 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,280 Real quick. Real quick. 10 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:46,280 Hold on, bro. You want to sit down happy, man? 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,520 You want to sit down? Like to sit down, Hang out. 12 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,000 Will I talk to you? You want to do that? 13 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,800 Can we do that? Yeah. 14 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:00,240 Do me a favor, man. I'll make sure there's not 15 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:08,720 tighten up on you, alright? Let's let's go right over here 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:14,520 so we can sit up. Yeah, you can sit right there, 17 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:18,120 man. I'll make sure you don't fall 18 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:18,840 there. You want to sit up? 19 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:22,840 Yeah, you want. To sit up. 20 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,040 I mean have have you? Yeah, sit up. 21 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:29,360 And I'll be. I got you. 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:31,320 Here you go. Sit up. 23 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:50,880 Go ahead. Yes, you can give me the return 24 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:57,620 and you can release traffic. Go ahead. 25 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,160 What's your first name I mean? What's that? 26 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:30,340 What's your first name? What's your name? 27 00:02:30,340 --> 00:02:31,340 I mean, what's? Your name. 28 00:02:31,660 --> 00:02:37,180 What's your name? The atmosphere grows heavier. 29 00:02:37,500 --> 00:02:41,140 The man dances around his real name, as if blurring the line 30 00:02:41,140 --> 00:02:44,900 between victim and aggressor. His silence speaks more than any 31 00:02:44,900 --> 00:02:51,440 confession ever could. You all right? 32 00:03:02,020 --> 00:03:06,220 You all right, man? Do you need an ambulance? 33 00:03:16,420 --> 00:03:19,300 You have your roster. Are you doing all right man? 34 00:03:19,860 --> 00:03:22,780 Are you OK? Do you need an ambulance over 35 00:03:22,780 --> 00:03:24,140 here to check you out for some reason? 36 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:27,240 I mean, they got some beautiful nurses down there. 37 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,720 They've been trying to check me out but. 38 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,440 Yeah. What's your name? 39 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:36,800 They called me John. Your name's John. 40 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:38,440 OK. Hey, John. 41 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:39,600 I'm going to read you something real quick. 42 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:41,960 OK before I start. I'm just being a Jackass, man. 43 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:46,720 What's your name? We're trying to be cool with 44 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:48,800 you, man. No, I I understand that, man. 45 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,560 I was, I was seeing what what was really going on here because 46 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:54,760 I've been confused before. You don't come out. 47 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,520 Yeah, I got you. Are you confused right now? 48 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,680 Well I mean it just depends if this is part of the part of the 49 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,360 you message or just part of the something else you know? 50 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:06,560 What I mean, I want to talk to you about what happened over at 51 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:12,200 your girl's place that you were you were just about to start 52 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,600 telling me about. I mean I. 53 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:15,480 When I asked you what was going on. 54 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,560 I mean, she was having to lupus episode earlier. 55 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,760 She got to get her. It makes you start loving up. 56 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,160 She has to get her anxiety up so. 57 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:27,880 OK, real quick, before we get to that point, what? 58 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,600 What do I need it? What do I call you by my man? 59 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,760 What's your first name? Whatever you know, whatever you 60 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:36,280 whatever. I want to. 61 00:04:36,280 --> 00:04:38,320 What's comfortable for me is to call you by your name. 62 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:43,960 What's your first name I mean? What is what? 63 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:45,680 What's girlfriend did you talk to? 64 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,360 You know what I'm saying? What? 65 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:49,000 What? What are you? 66 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,160 Well. Yeah, we'll get to that. 67 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,200 Well, what's your, what's your name is what I'm asking you 68 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,720 right now. I'm saying, what name does she 69 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,520 say I'll have? That's what I'm trying to find 70 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,120 out because. Well, I didn't talk to her, my 71 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,160 partner did. I'm talking to you now all. 72 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:04,480 Right. OK, because she said some pretty 73 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,600 serious things happened over there that I'd like to talk to 74 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:08,600 you about to get your side of the story. 75 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,360 But I can't do that if you're over here fucking fucking around 76 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,080 with me, you know what I mean? No, I mean. 77 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:16,840 So what's your name I. Got you. 78 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,680 Why don't we? Start with what your name is 79 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,000 all. Right, good. 80 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:30,120 I go by by Joseph. I I go by Joseph. 81 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:31,560 I don't think so, but we might need them in. 82 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:32,920 The Bible, you know about Saint Joseph? 83 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,760 He's the the state of the Father and the family figures. 84 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,360 So then my middle name. Yeah, if you want to send them 85 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:42,640 this way, he's probably signaled 10. 86 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,400 Because I'm over here trying to get her help, you say. 87 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:49,880 I'm saying. We're at the pool over at the 88 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:50,600 end of Winter Park. I'm. 89 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,400 Trying to get her help, you see, I'm saying. 90 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:54,880 OK. So. 91 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,840 Signs of drug use linger on his body. 92 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,880 He admits putting his own life on hold to help his girlfriend, 93 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,080 the same woman he just tried to kill during one of her panic 94 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,160 attacks. I would just rather not to say 95 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:10,040 anything so you feel what she said because I'm trying to get 96 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:11,200 her help. I got, she says. 97 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,240 She needs, she needs help. She's been well, I've been over 98 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,080 here for eight months. I want to read. 99 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:18,720 I want to read something. You know what I'm saying? 100 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,680 Put my my stuff on hold to try to help her get through things 101 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,360 because she said she needs somebody at night. 102 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,400 She had nightmares. She has all these different 103 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,160 issues that she needs somebody to feel sick with. 104 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,240 OK, and you see what I'm saying? Here's. 105 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,560 What I want to do mail and read you something right now because 106 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,640 you're in handcuffs. OK, So I'm going to read 107 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:36,440 something to you and then we can talk about what happened over 108 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:36,920 there. All right. 109 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:39,320 Got it. You have the right to remain 110 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:41,000 silent, not make any statement at all. 111 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,520 Any statement you make maybe use as evidence against you at your 112 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:44,520 trial. Do you understand that? 113 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,160 I did. Do you understand that? 114 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,280 Any statement you make maybe use as evidence against you in 115 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:10,760 court. Do you understand that the only 116 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,480 reason I'm reading this to you is because you're in handcuffs 117 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:14,840 right now, OK? Like, I genuinely want to hear 118 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,600 what you have to say, OK. But I need you to need you to 119 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,600 acknowledge that I'm reading this to you, OK? 120 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Even if we did that, I still got to read this to you, OK? 121 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:31,120 You understand what I'm saying, man. 122 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:34,280 This is this is for you. This is to protect you, OK? 123 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,680 You have the right to have a lawyer present to advise you 124 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:39,200 prior to and during any questioning. 125 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:47,840 Do you understand that? I never have. 126 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,600 I never have understood lawyer if I had. 127 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:52,320 Do you like? Do you understand what I would? 128 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,200 Like to have my my Barbara Deandra, the girl you just talk 129 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,920 to, whatever little white chicken about 58, OK, that hair. 130 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,720 Wherever y'all came from, Autumn, summer, wherever. 131 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,920 I would like her to be my lawyer if I need question to answer. 132 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,840 Well, that's probably not going to happen, but all right, so you 133 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,680 have the if you are unable to employ a lawyer, you have the 134 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,080 right to have a lawyer appointed to advise you prior to and 135 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:22,720 during any questioning. Do you understand that? 136 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:26,400 Yeah. OK. 137 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,640 Basically all I'm asking is if you understand what the words 138 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:29,760 I'm saying to you. OK. 139 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:35,280 I mean I. That's all I'm asking if you 140 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:36,280 understand. OK. 141 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,120 Yeah, You have the right to terminate the interview at any 142 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:40,080 time. Do you understand that? 143 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:41,039 Yeah. OK. 144 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:42,760 So what happened over there, man? 145 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,280 Alright, you said Barbara's house. 146 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,160 Yeah, I guess so. What happened over there? 147 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,800 Well, what's really been going on is a lot of people have been 148 00:08:53,800 --> 00:09:00,680 trying to get to some some and there's a lot of other people 149 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:09,200 and I guess and well, it seems like that, you know, people got 150 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,120 that confused with different things and so. 151 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,720 His voice wanders, his eyes dull. 152 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,080 He speaks of hallucinations, of people trying to control him. 153 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,680 The story blurs just like his mind after nights of drug fueled 154 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:25,000 confusion. I don't know if you don't know 155 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:26,160 anything about any of this stuff. 156 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,880 I don't know. I don't know too much about a 157 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,920 lot of stuff. But a lot of people have been 158 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:33,960 trying to get to me to do different things for him and 159 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,440 this and that. And I mean it really it it all 160 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:41,080 shooting and honesty. I mean, I really, I really don't 161 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,640 even really just get along with a lot of the people that I even 162 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:44,640 know anymore. You know what I mean? 163 00:09:44,680 --> 00:09:47,040 Right. I'm really not that type of, I 164 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,480 mean, I really just, you know, I ended up on the bomb side of the 165 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,840 bomb side of the day. So I like to smoke a little weed 166 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:54,200 and it did a little bit harder drugs. 167 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:56,840 And so that led the prison sentence in more prison 168 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,000 sentences. But I got you. 169 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:59,800 Did you take anything tonight? Huh. 170 00:09:59,920 --> 00:10:02,240 Did you take anything tonight? Any harder stuff tonight? 171 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,360 Maybe like a little bit of mess. I mean, I don't, I don't know, 172 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,160 man. They they go from white stuff 173 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,200 installed or something or something. 174 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,480 Hey, this is something something you know me, I don't. 175 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,240 Know so you took something tonight you don't know what it 176 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:14,920 is I was. Told a long time ago, if you've 177 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,800 done something once, you don't never had to do it again to go 178 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,320 back there to get that same feeling, you know what I mean? 179 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,520 Gotcha. I don't know what I what I've 180 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,120 been doing, you know, then OK, I've not been doing. 181 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,080 Paperwork either way would be done. 182 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:28,720 Just. Hang out right there man. 183 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:34,240 Don't do that. I told you, I I I trip out like 184 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,760 feel like I can't if I can, yeah, I think that would be 185 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:40,400 cool. Y'all y'all maybe leave me out 186 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,400 wrong. OK man, So what happened over 187 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,240 over at her place? OK. 188 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,720 Yeah, what happened over there at her place? 189 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:55,320 I told you, man, she got that lupus stuff and anxiety and 190 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,080 she's like, man, I don't know, I'm trying. 191 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,480 She said she has to get anxiety up. 192 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:07,760 She can't breathe. And then so I mean, I don't 193 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:12,280 know, man, I can't tell you. I know I've been I got had it 194 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,320 hit a few times, phone stuff, threw stuff at me. 195 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,720 You know, I'm like, I want to stop her, but I'm like, what the 196 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,680 heck is going on? How can this she's not going 197 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:23,000 right? Date of birth or anything yet? 198 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:26,520 My jeans kind of small, so she's like. 199 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:28,880 No, I can get that for you, really. 200 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,760 I think I need to feed my buddy. Let's do this real quick, man. 201 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:34,560 Let's go get you in the AC real quick. 202 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:36,720 All right? You're sweating a lot here. 203 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:37,320 I help you. Go ahead. 204 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,800 And get rehydrated and get fucking up my homeboy man all. 205 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,480 Right, let's go over here. You ready? 206 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,800 You know, So you know I dress up, huh? 207 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,280 I mean, I just put these little swords on it and my fucking. 208 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,480 I look better down there and down to the feet from the feet 209 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,160 on the bottom of the body. Better, better than nothing. 210 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,720 My upper body looks better than male. 211 00:11:56,720 --> 00:11:58,200 My bottom body looks better than females. 212 00:11:58,200 --> 00:11:59,640 I'm like, take a seat, my man. Huh. 213 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,760 Let's take a seat real quick. Can't get you an air 214 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,640 conditioner? What? 215 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,040 Just take take a seat in the car, get you in the air 216 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,080 conditioner. Yeah, actually my best milk we 217 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,520 got, I got pulled down a little bit of time. 218 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:13,400 OK, I'll turn it down. Sit down in the car. 219 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,800 Please let me sit down right here a little bit. 220 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,200 Sit down in the car. Please let me sit down right 221 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:18,960 here a little bit. Sit down in the car please. 222 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,920 Sit down right here in the bit. Sit down in the car. 223 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,240 Come on, sit down in the car. Let me sit down. 224 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:26,000 You're going to sit down in the car. 225 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,960 By now, the officers have stopped pushing for answers. 226 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,840 They just want to get him into the car to the hospital. 227 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:38,480 But he rambles about his body, lost in bizarre fantasies no one 228 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:44,040 can understand. Hey, this is the 12. 501261 229 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,400 Secondary with. The big button. 230 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,520 It's the big button, Mr. Big Money. 231 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,040 Hey, I don't know how far we're going to get with an interview 232 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,200 with this guy, Tell. Me your first name. 233 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:54,840 Again, Mr. Big? No, He's ready. 234 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,400 I'm ready. Put your feet in the car. 235 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,720 Hey, put your feet in the car please. 236 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:05,280 I wish I knew what the heck was, really. 237 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,640 I need, I need you to put your feet in the car so I can help 238 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,120 him get your information without having to worry about you. 239 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:13,920 OK? Can you do that for me please? 240 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:17,040 Let's just go, 'cause you're not. 241 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,120 Let's just go to the hospital. Just just that man program to 242 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,200 the hospital. I mean, I don't know what I 243 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,360 mean. I'll take care every man. 244 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:30,320 I'll be with you in the back. What do you need to go to the 245 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,440 hospital for? What's that? 246 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,080 What do you need to go to the hospital for? 247 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:42,640 I mean, well, but we don't, I mean, we can, we don't really 248 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,080 have to do. I mean, there's there's certain 249 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,080 things that there's certain things I think that that that 250 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,800 can benefit probably everybody. You know what I mean? 251 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:57,880 I mean, I don't know exactly. Maybe like I don't know what's 252 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:03,600 the, what's the drinking? I don't know what what I mean. 253 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,560 I'm not. I'm kind of are. 254 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,880 You thirsty? I mean I can't dehydrate, I can 255 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,280 probably eat drinking. I mean OK let me send you are 256 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:18,520 y'all. I mean, are you thirsty or not 257 00:14:18,560 --> 00:14:21,000 thirsty or you need? Can you if you put your? 258 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,240 Feet in the car, I can see if I have a water bottle for you. 259 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:29,600 Can you do that? You know, so we can do. 260 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:34,800 I mean, I bit, I mean, if you got a lot water bottle, I don't 261 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:38,880 know what buddy, but here I have or not have. 262 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,040 I mean, I I got, I mean, I'm alright. 263 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,640 Well, yeah, I mean, I'm not. Go ahead. 264 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:49,880 I'm not against him being there, but he could be there in a 265 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:51,480 couple of minutes. They got off him over, you know 266 00:14:51,480 --> 00:15:05,000 me, I haven't gotten there yet. I mean look this is do. 267 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,720 You guys do. What's going on? 268 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,680 This way. Come on, let's go towards the 269 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:13,520 end. Here we go. 270 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,040 Do you need water? Coke, anything. 271 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,600 Some. Chips I need metal coke trying 272 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,000 to maybe? With a 2 or 4 it did defensive 273 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,040 wound OK. I tried to stop him. 274 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,760 Is it all swollen up? Well, it. 275 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,640 Has. OK, give me one of my hands. 276 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,920 You can see it's. OK, they didn't check you out on 277 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,840 scene out there. No. 278 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,120 OK. All right, give me. 279 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:45,720 How long will that happen? He sits quietly, cradling a 280 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,680 bruised hand, debating pain versus justice. 281 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,120 He's been shot before. This is nothing new. 282 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,320 But today's pain isn't just physical. 283 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,000 It's the weight of what he's done. 284 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,600 I guess from a sanitation drawer from Victoria to Houston. 285 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,000 OK, Two hours, 2 1/2 hours, you would say? 286 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,400 Yes, Sir. OK. 287 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,160 And when did it start hurting on you? 288 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,840 Immediately after. Soon. 289 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:14,840 Does it happen? Yes, Sir. 290 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:23,240 Well, HIV is kind of leaving it up to me as to whether or not 291 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:27,440 you're going to go here. You know, we got some pretty 292 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,960 important things to talk to you about. 293 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,840 You don't seem especially badly hurt to me. 294 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,440 Do you feel like you actually need to go to the hospital, or 295 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,840 do you feel like you can power through it? 296 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,560 I mean, you drove all the way back, right? 297 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:52,200 I mean, do you think it's broken? 298 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:54,400 The HFD doesn't seem to think it's broken. 299 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,720 They just seem to think it's bruised. 300 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,520 I don't know. Yeah, it's probably right. 301 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:00,400 Yeah. Can you move your hands and 302 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:04,839 stuff painfully painfully. Yes, Sir. 303 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:08,400 OK, but you won't need your hands for this, for this part of 304 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,480 it, you know? Yes, Sir. 305 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,520 So do you really feel like you actually need to go to the 306 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,160 hospital? I don't know. 307 00:17:17,319 --> 00:17:21,839 I'm not a. Doctor, Sir, I mean, if you want 308 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:23,520 to proceed, we don't want to proceed. 309 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,280 I mean, we can always call them back up later. 310 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,680 It doesn't seem like it's a medical emergency at the moment. 311 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,400 Yes, Sir. Obviously, we have some real 312 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,600 important things to discuss with you about today. 313 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,360 It's important things to ask you about and some important things 314 00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:42,960 to tell you. You willing to sit here and talk 315 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:43,720 to us for a bit? Well. 316 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,400 Do I have an attorney? Present. 317 00:17:47,120 --> 00:17:49,640 You don't at present, no. I would like one. 318 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,520 OK, this one. Well, in that case, we'll get 319 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:55,280 you to the. Hospital. 320 00:17:55,360 --> 00:17:58,880 But first we're going to take some photos of you and the 321 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,920 crime. Senior officer is going to take. 322 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:03,560 Take your clothes. We'll give you a paper suit to 323 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,040 wear to the hospital. You'll have some things to cover 324 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:06,640 you. Up. 325 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,760 Yes, Sir. So right now they do have an. 326 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:13,680 Arrest worn out for you is this is going to be for aggravated 327 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:19,600 assault family violence to me a felony to OK and that's for you 328 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,440 guys you you actually admitted to. 329 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,960 Having an assault right on your brother. 330 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:25,920 You assaulted me though. Yeah, like I said. 331 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:27,080 Well, right now we can't charge him. 332 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,400 Because he's deceased. But how am I getting the charges 333 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:30,760 in because you also assaulted him? 334 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:34,440 But a self-defense, like I said, it's why an investigation. 335 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:35,640 Is pending right now. OK. 336 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:38,000 Yeah. All right. 337 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:40,560 I told him that you go. Man. 338 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,400 Just calm down right now, like I said. 339 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,720 This, that's why there's an investigation, OK. 340 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:49,480 I'm the one who's because I've been to prison. 341 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,920 And that's why I don't know anything that caught your it's 342 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,720 your backstop. When informed he's facing felony 343 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:58,280 assault for attacking his brother, he lashes out because 344 00:18:58,280 --> 00:18:59,880 the brother can't be charged too. 345 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,160 He's dead. The rage in his voice hides A 346 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,080 deeper guilt. I don't know. 347 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,320 I don't have your back story, man. 348 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:09,120 So right now we're getting this, I'm going to get an inventory of 349 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:11,920 all the stuff you have on right now and then we do have a 350 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,200 warrant for a DNA. Okay, so we're going to have CSU 351 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,680 come up here. They're going to get some DNA 352 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:19,640 samples from you. Okay, DNA, DNA just we need to 353 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,240 get samples to make sure there's no nothing else I have. 354 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,840 Okay, I can't talk anymore. They said you really you run 355 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:26,120 over to say you want Lord Printer. 356 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,120 So if you want me to talk. To you. 357 00:19:28,120 --> 00:19:28,960 I can't. You're you're. 358 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,240 Just tell me that. I mean, no, I'm, I'm advising 359 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,800 you what's what's the name for? What does that mean? 360 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,840 They'll give you an order for everything. 361 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,080 They'll give you the one. Like I said, they'll be signed 362 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:41,000 off by the judge. But as far as going in teeny 363 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:41,840 death for. Questioning we. 364 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:44,160 Want to talk? Like I said, you plead the 5th. 365 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,440 So no, there was. I told the cop, I told him. 366 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,560 And then I told the detectives I wasn't going to sit down and go 367 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,240 through the whole thing. And that's why, yeah, I know, 368 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:53,320 man. And you talk to him, really. 369 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,400 Which is, which is fine. I mean, you did the right thing. 370 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:58,880 I'm not hiding up the fence. Man, that's trying to tell you 371 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,640 no but. Then that's what I'm saying. 372 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,480 I knew that was going to. Happen, man, I already knew, 373 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:05,040 man, I can't give you any legal bias. 374 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,960 I can't go over anything else. Like I said, just right now I'm 375 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,560 just getting some some of the stuff that you have on okay, 376 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:14,080 doing an inventory and what your property is so good. 377 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:16,480 Yeah. You've been there before. 378 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,400 No, OK. I didn't see you in the system I 379 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,560 haven't been in. Trouble one time OK paid for my 380 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:30,640 whole life this time I'm I'm innocent this time well, like I 381 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,560 said because. I don't. 382 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,160 Know. I'm not. 383 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,600 I'm not saying something personal, man. 384 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,920 We're just doing our job. Yeah, yeah, we're. 385 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,880 Just investigating anything just like. 386 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,640 You would normally, you know what I'm saying, We're concerned 387 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,720 about situations, so that's why we're investigating. 388 00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:49,760 OK. What's your personal man like? 389 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:53,480 I said, well, I'll take you that way, like I said, to get 390 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,800 investigations done and I'm finding that it is like this. 391 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,760 Yeah. So just so we're on this page, 392 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,520 OK, I want to make sure that I respect obviously your rights to 393 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,680 not talk to me. I literally have no idea what. 394 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,000 Just don't say anything. Just hear me out, OK? 395 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,160 My goal is to protect your rights to a degree, half to your 396 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:16,960 own police officer. OK? 397 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:21,240 Again, in Colorado, I don't want to talk to you about anything 398 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:26,640 related to Wyoming stuff, OK? So I'd be happy to explain some 399 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,240 of that. But I have to make it perfectly 400 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,080 clear that you do not have to sit in there. 401 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,360 You don't have to listen to me. Nobody's compelling you to. 402 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,520 This is completely you freely and voluntarily doing that. 403 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,560 Do you understand that? OK, You don't have to say 404 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,760 anything. Casey enters with suspicion in 405 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:43,360 his eyes, rejecting a bottle of water as if it hides betrayal. 406 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,680 The detectives tread carefully. He knows the game and he's not 407 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,440 ready to play just yet. I would like. 408 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:54,880 To be able to kind of weigh some information out for you and talk 409 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,760 to you about it. And then you can make a 410 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,760 determination as to whether want you want to talk to me. 411 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,160 And before we'll do that, I'll read you your rights and you can 412 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:03,400 make whatever choice you want to do. 413 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,960 Is that fair? OK, just give me a minute wait 414 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,040 for my partner. Do you want to water anything 415 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,720 while you're sitting here? All right, I can get you that. 416 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,480 Did you open this already? Was that this? 417 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,400 Was this opened already? Not that I'm aware of. 418 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:24,920 You know this is opened already? How was it? 419 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,440 Yeah. OK. 420 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,320 We'll get you another one there. Yeah, we'll reach that. 421 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,960 Casey So this is my partner, Andy. 422 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:35,680 He's also with the Aurora Police Department. 423 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:41,320 So I'm just filling you in. Just so you know, when he walked 424 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,200 in here, he specifically said I got nothing to say to you. 425 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,440 Take me back to myself. Unless you guys are DCI. 426 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,240 OK, fair enough. So I'm just filling him in. 427 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:56,000 I, I explained that at this point, if you would like to, 428 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,120 we're just going to lay some stuff out for him information 429 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:01,640 because he's curious, OK? He's not being Aurora, Co. 430 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,240 You know, what did I do there? I. 431 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:04,560 Don't I mean I fucking? Been there. 432 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:05,520 That's. Totally fine man. 433 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:09,040 So and I obviously explained to him, but this is completely 434 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,280 voluntary. He's not compelled to stay here. 435 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,760 He wants to stay here. OK, I explained to him that I'm 436 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,880 going to lay some information out for him, some of the facts 437 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,560 that we know, and then from there he can make a 438 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,800 determination as to whether or not he wants to talk to us. 439 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:29,880 This is what I'll ask from you. Why we're telling you why we're 440 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,520 talking. We're not going to ask you any 441 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,160 questions. What we would like you to do is 442 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,880 hear us out, OK? Listen to what we have to say. 443 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:44,200 You at the end of that, we'll ask you a question and it'll be 444 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,960 up to you where it goes from there, OK? 445 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,640 If you want to say, hey, piss off, I'm done, that's your 446 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,440 right. Yeah, it is. 447 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,400 It is what it is now, right. I understand. 448 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,320 So we are very low key guys. We're not here to like pull 449 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:57,800 tricks down. That's not how we operate. 450 00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,120 OK. And I obviously understand 451 00:24:00,120 --> 00:24:02,760 you've had interactions with police before. 452 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:04,920 This is not your first time talking to cops. 453 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,360 And I'm not going to patronize you or talk down to you in any 454 00:24:08,360 --> 00:24:11,040 way, OK? I think, I think the best way to 455 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,920 just kind of talk about what we're looking at is just be a 456 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:17,240 forthright lay names out and I'll tell you what I know and I 457 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,200 can prove. OK, So. 458 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,520 Specifically. We are Aurora Police Department 459 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:26,000 detectives out of Colorado, OK. We're homicide detectives. 460 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,080 Homicide detectives, OK, Do you want me to? 461 00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:32,800 Continue. Yeah, you know what? 462 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,480 OK, so we're not just homicide detectives. 463 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,880 So we we do Major Crimes. So that can range from like 464 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,960 kidnappings, missing persons, aggravated assaults up to 465 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,040 homicide. OK. 466 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,520 So I'm just giving you a scope. And again, you don't say 467 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,320 anything. Just listen. 468 00:24:48,360 --> 00:24:52,960 Yeah, you don't have to respond. So what we are looking at 469 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:57,960 specifically is in relation to a trip that we know that you made. 470 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,720 The moment the words homicide detectives are spoken, the room 471 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,920 chills. He listens in silence. 472 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,360 This birthday trip to Colorado wasn't just drugs in hotels. 473 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,440 It's now a crime scene timeline. At around November 4th so a 474 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:18,400 while back OK OK so November 4th you came to Colorado and you 475 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,840 specifically came to Colorado with a girl named Rachel Holman 476 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:26,480 and your girlfriend Chantal Edlund yourself. 477 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,640 You came out here you met up with a friend that you did time 478 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,240 with in prison by the name of Quentin Lafferty. 479 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:36,760 OK you met up with him. You also have you obviously are 480 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:38,720 coming out here to to pick up dope. 481 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,760 You guys got to connect out here and that's Sean, Sean 482 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,840 Montgomery. We know who that is just hear us 483 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,160 out man. You don't have to agree with it 484 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,920 or commentate it. OK, So, and please interject if 485 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,880 there's anything you want to make just as a observation. 486 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:57,800 OK, so there's a, a drug ring that's basically operated out. 487 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,400 You come out to Colorado, specifically to Denver, Co, 488 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,600 Aurora, Co, pretty consistently. And I'm going to be quite like 489 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:06,840 plain speaking, right? We don't give two shits about 490 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,120 the drug thing. Yeah, he's a dope. 491 00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,800 He's, he's a, he used to be a dope cop. 492 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,840 So he gets it. He knows the game much, much 493 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:14,920 better. Than we make money. 494 00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:18,680 Much better than I do, but we don't give two shits about it. 495 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,200 OK, I just said that's how I make. 496 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:21,400 Money. I got you man. 497 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,960 It is what it is. OK, We also recognize that a 498 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,000 number of criminal offenses touch the drug world. 499 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:31,920 It's just the way it is, right? We get it, guns, all kinds of 500 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:33,800 shit. It's just the way that world 501 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,320 operates. We both know that being law 502 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,040 enforcement. OK? 503 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,200 So it's neither here nor there at this point. 504 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,480 It's just a part of a factual basis for why we're we're 505 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,120 investigating a missing person's case. 506 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:45,520 OK? So we know that you come out 507 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,360 here on November 4th, OK? You meet up at some point with 508 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:56,080 you're with Chantal, you're with Sean Montgomery with Quentin, 509 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,800 and at some point you guys go to a hotel in Denver, specifically 510 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,200 Sonesta in downtown Denver. You guys check into a hotel down 511 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,720 there. We've been surveilling you guys 512 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,800 for days. OK, so there was, I'm just 513 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,440 telling you don't have to come. OK, so we we got we got all the 514 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,640 information. OK, we know what hotels you guys 515 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,560 checked into. We have a perfectly mapped out 516 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,600 timeline. It's the nest of Yep. 517 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,280 So that's the big high rise hotel. 518 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,560 Super nice town Denver. Super nice hotel. 519 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,120 The only really nice hotel, you guys. 520 00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:29,040 Oh yeah, after that my. Birthday. 521 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,480 OK, so after that, you know, you check out on your birthday, you 522 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:40,320 guys split up, you go do some shopping with Sean Quentin and 523 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:44,520 the girls are going and buying stuff, planning your birthday. 524 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,560 Later that afternoon, you guys check into the Motel 6 on 525 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,800 Arapahoe Road and and two. Or I-25 super, super shady 526 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,800 motel. I mean, it's, it's used for drug 527 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,400 trafficking. OK, we, we know the hotel super 528 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,040 well. You guys are there. 529 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:02,640 While you're at this hotel, there's a number of events that 530 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,720 happen in the preceding evenings. 531 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,720 OK, we know that you have a a birthday celebration. 532 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,080 A Chuck E Cheese birthday cake and a missing woman. 533 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,920 The contrast is chilling. While balloons floated in the 534 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,720 air, someone may have been drawing their final breath in a 535 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,800 nearby motel. On the night of the 5th, you 536 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,640 specifically go to Chuck E Cheese. 537 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,000 You're with individuals that you meet up at that with at that 538 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:31,240 location which include Chantelle, Rachel, Sean, Sean's 539 00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:35,000 Connect, his buddy out here who he's the dope Connect. 540 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,280 Basically we know who it is. You're out here with him and 541 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,760 then the two other people, Leo and Sarah. 542 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,600 No, the Hulk was not there at that point. 543 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,720 Sean's friend. Yeah, I'm sorry, Sean's friend. 544 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,800 My apologies. Didn't really go in and kind of 545 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:53,640 hung out parking. Lot and then obviously Sarah 546 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,360 Babbage and then Leo are there OK so we know that we have all 547 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,280 this on video we can we can corroborate all this information 548 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:05,520 we know how long you guys were there what went down and then 549 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,080 based. Then you go back to the motel. 550 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,840 At some point you guys wake up, you kind of do your thing. 551 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,320 The next day guys go eat at the restaurant, right? 552 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,680 Rachel is complaining about her too. 553 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:23,160 Target Dennis, do you break off? And then for a little bit you 554 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,320 and me will go try and grab some needles. 555 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,160 The girls are staying there. At some point, Sean comes and he 556 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,960 picks up Rachel. They kind of split off and they 557 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,040 do their own thing. You return. 558 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,360 People are kind of pissed at Rachel at this point because 559 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,840 she's trying to possibly end around you guys, maybe get 560 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,480 above, maybe get above Sean, right, and go straight for the 561 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,960 Kinect, which we don't fucking care about because we don't. 562 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:48,240 Care. Right. 563 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:55,000 But it's factual. So later that night, you guys 564 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,360 decide that you want to go downtown so you can go back 565 00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,600 downtown. And it's you, and it's Clinton 566 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,360 and it's Chantel and it's Leo, and it's Sarah, and you guys go 567 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,320 downtown. You guys go to a bar. 568 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:08,600 You're drinking there for a while, right? 569 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,920 Sarah or Rachel's not with you. At this point you guys have to 570 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:17,040 leave because Sarah's got her kid over at Children's Hospital. 571 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,960 And she needs to get. There for business 8 hours. 572 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:23,800 So you guys go back, shut Sarah off at the Children's Hotel. 573 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:31,760 Now it's just you and Clinton and Leo and Chantel in the car 574 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,840 and you're back over in Aurora. You're over by the Aurora Mall, 575 00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,400 maybe going to get some food, maybe at a Chicken Point Chicken 576 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,280 place at some point. He was kidding. 577 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,960 Maybe. You're getting an argument or 578 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,040 something happens inside the vehicle. 579 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,040 You get out and you kind of take off from the vehicle. 580 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,480 Clinton gets out. He tries to find you, can't find 581 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,040 you, but Chantelle does find you. 582 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,680 You guys go back to the car, but now you guys can't find. 583 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,600 And I think Chantelle was calling you James. 584 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:04,760 Yeah, she kept referring to you as James. 585 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,480 Tensions rise as Rachel returns to the car, this time bruised, 586 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,560 silenced and flanked in that garage under cold fluorescent 587 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,200 lights. Loyalty fractures. 588 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:21,320 Someone has to pay for betrayal. Now we just want to let you 589 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,400 know. That's what we know. 590 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,720 It's just a factual thing, OK? No judgement. 591 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:32,240 So you guys come back, you go over to the hotel where Leo and 592 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,840 Sarah are staying, which is the one right there off of Abilene. 593 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,520 You guys kind of wait around for Quentin for a while, or maybe 594 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,000 you don't, but he doesn't show up. 595 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:46,440 Regardless, Leo's got to get back to Sarah, who's over at 596 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:52,000 Children's Children's. This whole time you guys are 597 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,760 kind of pissed with Rachel because she's nowhere to be 598 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880 found, right? Maybe you're not, but Chantelle 599 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,840 definitely is, yes, right. Even sending messages to Sean 600 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:09,880 saying, hey, you can drop Rachel wherever, we'll come get her. 601 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,880 She needs to come back now. We need to teach her a lesson to 602 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:18,440 that effect, right? At some point, you guys get over 603 00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,040 to the parking garage of the Children's Hospital. 604 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:27,960 And at this point, it's just you and Leo and Chantel in the car, 605 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,560 right? Sean comes up driving this 606 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,400 truck, right? And he's with his connected this 607 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:38,640 time, Flames in the car, right? So Flames riding in the front 608 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,680 seat. You've got Rachel in the middle. 609 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,240 Sean's driving, pulls into the parking garage. 610 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,360 Rachel gets out, right? Flames has to let her out as the 611 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:54,720 passenger side, so he gets out. Rachel gets out, Flan gets back 612 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,120 in. Maybe you have some words with 613 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,400 Sean. Chantal definitely has some 614 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,680 words with Sean. And then she leads Rachel in the 615 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,680 back seat of your guys's car, right? 616 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,240 Rachel sits in the middle here on one side, Chantelle's on the 617 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,240 other. Leo's driving the car, and we 618 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,800 know this because there's video cameras all over that parking 619 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,120 garage. Chantelle also elbowed Rachel in 620 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,960 the face. Right because you're pissed and 621 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,720 understandably so right Yes Sir. You guys are trying to help 622 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,920 Rachel out. We all know that she's down on 623 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,840 her love. This shit's not going right in 624 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:34,040 billions that today's fucking in jail because of stealing the 625 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,760 fucking trucks and they're losing their place to live and 626 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,160 she lost her job because the trucks that they stole were her 627 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,800 boss is. You know that she needs a 628 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,280 handout, right? You guys are friends. 629 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,960 You're trying to help her out. You're like, man, you make this 630 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,360 trip. I don't drive. 631 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,400 Chantelle can't drive. She's got narcolepsy. 632 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,200 We can't drive all this way. We need a driver. 633 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,960 We're going to make this worth your while, right? 634 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,680 We're going to hook you up. We're going to hook you up with 635 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,640 an ounce of dope. We're going to pay you well. 636 00:33:59,960 --> 00:34:02,480 Plus, you're going to come down because we're partying and we're 637 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,000 going to have a good time. Right? 638 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:05,360 We're partying. It's my birthday. 639 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,880 OK, Back to the parking garage. Well, that didn't quite work out 640 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,400 because of what Rachel was doing with Sean. 641 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,440 Whether it was? They don't just want to scare 642 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,560 her, they want to teach her a lesson. 643 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:24,480 The destination nowhere, an isolated stretch far from help, 644 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,520 where the cold air slices sharper than the threat inside 645 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,000 the car. Fucking him or whether was 646 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,280 trying to to get in with him so so he could she could go above 647 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,040 and start working directly with with flame. 648 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:39,960 And not that you care about getting cut out of business 649 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,280 because you guys were still be in business, right, but it's 650 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,159 it's about code, it's about respect, it's about honor, 651 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,320 right. You don't do that to your 652 00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,480 fucking friends, especially your friend that's trying to help you 653 00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,760 out. Understandably angry. 654 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,560 I would have been angry, right? Chantelle's probably also angry 655 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,200 because you guys are going to come down, You guys are going to 656 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,760 party. I know you guys have an open 657 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,680 relationship. Well, Rachel thought that she 658 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,800 was going to be into that open relationship, but then she 659 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,880 starts freaking holding back. Now, she doesn't want to do 660 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,200 this. She doesn't want to do that. 661 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,000 So things just aren't panning out. 662 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,160 And Chantelle's getting jealous about what's going on because 663 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,800 she cares about you, but she also understands you guys have 664 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,360 an open relationship. And I would. 665 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,840 I understand why people are trying to fuck Rachel. 666 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,600 I mean, nice, good looking girl. Yeah, I get it. 667 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:34,040 So it all makes sense, right? So in the parking garage now, 668 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,600 Rachel's got to be title lesson, right? 669 00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:41,800 And I think it's probably Chantelle's idea that you guys 670 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,320 are going to teach her a lesson, or maybe it's yours, or who 671 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,240 knows, maybe it's James's idea. Because at this point, James was 672 00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:50,920 there, Casey was there, James was there again. 673 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:58,760 So you guys argue in the back of the car for a while, right? 674 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,000 You're telling her how disappointed you are, that 675 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,160 you're just trying to help her out. 676 00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:04,600 You don't treat friends like that. 677 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,120 Chantelle's pissed about the whole situation, and Rachel's 678 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,800 trying to say that she's sorry, but it's not good enough, right? 679 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,440 You can't just say you're sorry and have shit be better. 680 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:19,120 And so at something I remember a party. 681 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,640 OK, so at some point, you guys decide that the lesson that you 682 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,720 guys are going to teach Rachel is that you were going to drive 683 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,200 her way out into the middle of nowhere and make her walk, 684 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,480 right? And we know this because we know 685 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,960 that you guys start driving E out of the city of Aurora, 686 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:36,760 right? We know that you guys stop at a 687 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,960 gas station when you start filling up with gas at that gas 688 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,520 station, we know that Chantelle goes in and she buys you guys 689 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,080 food. At that point, Leo was no longer 690 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,360 driving. Leo's in the back seat on one 691 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,800 side or you're on the other side of Rachel. 692 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,040 And the reason why you guys are doing that is so Rachel can't 693 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,240 get out of the car, so she can't run. 694 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:57,840 She can't run for help. We know that you have Gap Marie 695 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,400 with you. We know that she has pistol pee 696 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,480 tucked in her bra. And we know that Rachel knows 697 00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:06,440 that you have that gun and most likely you have that gun out, 698 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,440 not pointed out, but tucked under your leg. 699 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,640 But she knows it's there and she knows that she can't get out. 700 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,920 She's got to go along with whatever you guys. 701 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,840 Say and she's scared shitless. All right, so scared that she's 702 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,120 not even saying anything because she doesn't know what's going to 703 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,600 happen when she says something. If she says let me out, she 704 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:23,760 doesn't know. Whether it's Casey, she doesn't 705 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,720 know. Whether it's James, she doesn't 706 00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:29,080 know what Leo's going to do, but she does know that you guys have 707 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,280 guns and she doesn't know that she needs to be title lesson. 708 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,720 And she does know that you guys are pissed at her for a myriad 709 00:37:35,720 --> 00:37:39,200 of reasons, right? Rachel, trapped between her 710 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,480 captors, says nothing. She sees the gun. 711 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,760 It's not aimed, but it speaks louder than any threat. 712 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,760 She knows escape isn't an option. 713 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:48,880 Obedience is her only shield now. 714 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,840 Chantelle gets back in the car and you guys start driving. 715 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,520 Chantelle drives. Chantelle is driving and you 716 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,800 guys are driving east and you guys are going out into the 717 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,560 middle of nowhere and Chantelle wants to go further, right? 718 00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,800 Chantelle wants to keep going and keep going because this 719 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,000 lesson that you guys are going to teach her is going to be a 720 00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,320 fucking hard lesson, right? You guys are going to drop her 721 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,360 off in the middle of nowhere and make her walk home. 722 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,840 And we know this why? Because in the city of Aurora, 723 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,360 my brother, we got traffic cams everywhere, not just in the 724 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,280 middle of the city, but we got traffic cams on the outskirts of 725 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,600 the city every time you come to all. 726 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,920 Over the fucking place. We've got cameras that are 727 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,200 reading license plates, and that's how we know that you were 728 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,280 coming down to Colorado as early as July. 729 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,400 Hidden Lake where Edgewater where Shawn lives. 730 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,320 July 30. 1st, right, we know that you were down at least two 731 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,520 or three times in October, a couple times in November and his 732 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,920 recent December brother like we know. 733 00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,400 We also know that you were trying to get new guns from Sean 734 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,480 not long after this incident happened, as well as fake IDs, 735 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,480 and that you guys wanted to wait low for a while. 736 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:54,680 So you guys keep driving and you're driving east, and finally 737 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,840 you guys get to a point that's included enough, right, That 738 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,560 this is the point where you guys are going to let Rachel off, 739 00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,840 right? Car stops, everyone gets out. 740 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,240 Chantel gets out of the driver's seat. 741 00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:09,840 Leo gets out of the back passenger seat. 742 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,240 Rachel gets out next to Leo. You get out, you walk around the 743 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:15,600 car and now you guys are all sitting there talking to one 744 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,360 another. And you're like, I didn't want 745 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:20,760 it to go down well this way. And she's like, I'm sorry. 746 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,480 And you're like, well, I did. You were emotional. 747 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,080 Right. You were even crying. 748 00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:26,560 And at that point, I don't know if it's Casey crying, I don't 749 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,280 know if it's James crying, but one of you is crying. 750 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,800 Right. Yeah. 751 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:37,120 Someone tells her to walk. Someone tells her to go and she 752 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:38,600 thinks that she's going to be able to go. 753 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:41,040 She's crying, she's upset. It's freezing. 754 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,080 That's cold out there. She's not dressed for the 755 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,960 weather. All she knows is that you guys 756 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,760 drove out into the middle of nowhere and that she's. 757 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:48,400 Going to have to walk any of your feelings. 758 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:53,840 But the only thing that happens next is that she doesn't walk. 759 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,160 And that's what we want to talk to you about and if you're 760 00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:02,280 willing to talk with us about and hold on, hold on. 761 00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:05,000 If you're willing to talk with us about it, we'd love to hear 762 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,880 your side of the story, but we have a very good idea of what 763 00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,320 happened, and these are things that we can. 764 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,200 It's more than an idea, right? Hold on. 765 00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:14,800 Hold on. Let him finish both. 766 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,920 Let him finish. Right. 767 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,960 We do want to hear your side of the story. 768 00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,560 I absolutely want to hear your side of the story. 769 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040 But that's not where the story ends, right? 770 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,320 You guys are having car troubles. 771 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,640 We know you're getting fucked up with your time and you're having 772 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,960 trouble getting back here. But your people back up here 773 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,120 need you to come back. Maybe they signed you money to 774 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,880 make the purchase and maybe they didn't. 775 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:39,240 I don't know. I doubt what they did. 776 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:42,760 It's probably all yours, right? But you guys go back. 777 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,520 You stay at the Motel 6 on the night of November 9th. 778 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,240 You stay at the Motel 6 on the night of November 10th. 779 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:53,320 You check out of to Motel 6 at 10:32 in the morning on November 780 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,680 11th, at which point we start making your way back up to up to 781 00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,920 Sheridan. Back at the motel, they dispose 782 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:02,640 of everything. Bags, clothes, traces. 783 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:06,440 To outsiders, it's just trash. But for detectives, it's a trail 784 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,080 of panic, concealment and the silence of a girl gone missing. 785 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,320 It takes you guys a long time to get up there. 786 00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,400 Right, because you're still having car troubles, you're 787 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,360 still trying to work with Sean, you're still trying to get 788 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,280 tires. Quentin's with you at this 789 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,760 point. Quentin has been with you pretty 790 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,800 much the entire time except for the night that you guys went 791 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,560 dropped off Rachel. And that's because when he ran 792 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,240 after you, you guys never found out. 793 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:33,600 But what did happen is that you hooked up with him the next day. 794 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,000 And this is when you were at the Holiday Inn Express, right there 795 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:41,120 off of Colfax, right? Staying in room 326 cycle, 796 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,760 correct? And you guys are in room 326, 797 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,000 and it's you and Chantel, and it's Leo, and it's Sarah, and 798 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,560 it's their kid, right? All in the room. 799 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:55,560 And Quentin comes and you're asleep at this time, but Quentin 800 00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:59,600 comes because you guys still have this stuff and still in the 801 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,280 car. He wants his things back, right? 802 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,880 He had to spend the night outside. 803 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,400 He didn't even have a coat. He's trying to get his shit 804 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,880 back. And when he comes up to the 805 00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,560 room, he doesn't go directly into the room. 806 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,120 Why? Because Chantelle. 807 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:13,440 And she's standing at the edge of the hallway. 808 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:16,720 She's just staring out a window and he's trying to make light 809 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:19,560 because he thinks that you guys are pissed at him, Maybe the way 810 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,080 he was acting or whatever. But all he knows is that 1, he 811 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,960 wants his stuff back and two, hopefully you guys aren't going 812 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,560 to be pissed at him anymore so he can stay with you guys and he 813 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,360 can keep getting shots and you guys can keep feeding his habit. 814 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,280 So he talks to Chantelle and he says, hey, where's Rachel? 815 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,920 And Chantelle says she's not coming back. 816 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:47,600 Not We got her out of the car and told her to walk, but she's 817 00:42:47,720 --> 00:42:53,040 not coming to press and then. That's a quote. 818 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,360 Quinton's with you and you guys are getting rid of Chantelle's 819 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,240 thing, her red transport backpack. 820 00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:01,720 You guys throw it in the dumpster. 821 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,880 The clothes that they bought earlier in the morning before at 822 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:06,520 the. Arc. 823 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,680 Quinton's getting pants, Sarah's getting some of the dresses that 824 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,080 they bought. You guys are coming to disposing 825 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,680 of any trace of Rachel ever being with you. 826 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,640 Right at this point, we know Rachel doesn't have her phone. 827 00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:26,160 Deleting her off Facebook. So on early in the morning on 828 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,880 November 7th, whether it's you or whether it's Chantel have 829 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:35,760 access to Rachel's Facebook. Because every once in a while 830 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,480 when her phone's not working, she's borrowing Rachel's phone 831 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,320 to log into Facebook so she can send messages back and forth. 832 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,880 But you guys still have access to her profile. 833 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,960 You guys going in, you defriend Rachel. 834 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,760 You guys send a couple messages to some other people, and we can 835 00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,960 tell just by the way that the text is written that it's not 836 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,800 Rachel responding to these people. 837 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,360 And I get it, right? Because something has happened 838 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,960 to Rachel and you guys don't want anybody to know what's 839 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,040 happened. To Rachel Rachel vanishes from 840 00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:09,360 social media. Her voice, once constant online, 841 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,840 goes dark. Not a word to her mother, her 842 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,840 friends, her boyfriend. Just like that, she disappears 843 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,240 into digital extinction. But you continue about your day, 844 00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,320 right? Even someone logs in from your 845 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,240 phone and I think it's probably Leo, right? 846 00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:25,800 Because we have the device, we have the device ID, we know 847 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,760 which which device did it. But someone logs into Rachel's 848 00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,360 account and basically just goes dark. 849 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,000 Right after that, she drops off the face of the earth. 850 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,920 She doesn't call her mom, who she talks to every other day. 851 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,240 She doesn't call her best friend Jalen Oklahoma, who she talks to 852 00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,440 every three days that she had been talking to frequently while 853 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,160 she was down there. She doesn't talk to Cody at all. 854 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,760 And she'd been talking to Cody the entire time, right? 855 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:55,480 She doesn't talk to 700 other people that she's talking to on 856 00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,120 a daily. Basis. 857 00:44:56,120 --> 00:45:01,280 They're all freaking out. She's trying to still get 858 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,440 freaking a rolling chassis for her, for her vehicle. 859 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,200 All these people that she was reaching out to and asking for 860 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,640 things and and and conversion with that all stops and that all 861 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,080 stops on November 6th and days you guys drive her out to teach 862 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:22,200 her a lesson right on your way back to Colorado, you guys reach 863 00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,760 out to Sean and specifically it's you reaching out to Sean 864 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,360 and you tell Sean we need 2 new guns, right. 865 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:34,160 So for whatever reason, you no longer need GAT Marine. 866 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,040 She no longer needs pistol Pete. You guys need 2 new guns, 2 867 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,040 fresh guns, 2 guns that aren't hot. 868 00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,600 You guys want IDs. You guys are saying we need to 869 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,720 go away for a while, maybe we go to New Mexico, maybe we go to 870 00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:50,000 Arizona and maybe that Chantel and not you. 871 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,480 But I can tell you for 100% that that did happen and that 872 00:45:53,480 --> 00:46:00,520 conversation was had. I'm telling you brother, from 873 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:05,760 the time you guys leave Sheridan after you drive in to Billings 874 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,000 to pick up Rachel, we even know where you picked her up in 875 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,000 Montana before you just cease to drive down, right? 876 00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:17,400 We know where you guys were. We know who you talked to. 877 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,520 We have video surveillance of you guys all over Denver. 878 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,640 We know that you guys finished a dope deal inside Sean's house. 879 00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,280 We know that you guys had another deal at the the Walmart. 880 00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,440 Correct me next position again. That was on the 8th. 881 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,520 On the 8th of November, at which point you get another zip lock 882 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,840 of mass, probably a pound, maybe more. 883 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,360 But again, we don't care about dope. 884 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,480 I could give a shit about the dope leaving out of Colorado. 885 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,480 It's not my thing. I don't investigate that. 886 00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:55,840 But I'm telling you, brother, and you cross that border to the 887 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,840 time you come back. When Rachel disappeared, they 888 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,640 already knew her last location. Not through data, but through a 889 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,840 mother's voice cracking with grief. 890 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:09,760 She believed her daughter was dead long before anyone else 891 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:15,680 dared to admit it. We know where you are, we know 892 00:47:15,720 --> 00:47:24,520 who you're with, and maybe maybe that we knew that you guys were 893 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:27,280 running dope this entire time and that's why you were on it, 894 00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,560 right? Maybe that's how we knew to 895 00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,880 start following you around. Maybe that's how we knew. 896 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:39,040 And we knew that Quentin was the paranoid dude anyways, right? 897 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,040 But we knew that he thought that when you guys are backed up, 898 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:43,720 we're kind of stuck in long, long. 899 00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:46,600 And he felt that people were following you. 900 00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:49,600 And I'm not going to tell you that people were, people weren't 901 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:50,840 for a long time. Yeah. 902 00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,880 So we know just. I'm just telling you, brother, 903 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,840 like, that's the game. And we could have got you at any 904 00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,480 point. But we decided not to. 905 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,640 And it wasn't until this, it wasn't until Hayden had to talk 906 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:07,240 to her mother who said the last time I spoke with Rachel, she 907 00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:11,520 was with Chantelle, she was with Casey. 908 00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:21,160 Listen, it wasn't till we till Hayden spoke with her mother and 909 00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:25,360 had to listen to her mother say I haven't talked to her in two 910 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,840 weeks. This has never happened before. 911 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,280 I know something has happened to my daughter. 912 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,800 And I'll, I'll just tell you honestly, man, she didn't say I 913 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,000 know something has happened. She said my daughter's dead. 914 00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,520 So here's the thing, dude, hold on. 915 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:42,680 Hold on. Let us just finish. 916 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,080 You are not compelled to say anything. 917 00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,080 We're not asking you a question. I just want you to just the 918 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:52,120 courtesy of your attention, OK? Casey, this is a pivotal moment 919 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:53,640 in your life. Just don't say anything. 920 00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:58,240 Just hear me out, OK? This is a very like this is 921 00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,120 almost like an ordained moment, OK? 922 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,000 Everything in life, decisions are not, and no judgement. 923 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,080 You live the life you live, and that's your choice of faith. 924 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:09,280 I don't care about that. But at this particular moment in 925 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:13,640 time in human history, OK, We care about this girl, OK? 926 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,400 She's got a little, a little girl that she's not ever going 927 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:21,960 to see again. And I, I need to give the, the 928 00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:24,680 mother something, OK? So one of the point I'm trying 929 00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:27,200 to make to you is you are not compelled to talk, OK? 930 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,400 I would like to get your story, just like my partner said. 931 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,920 But simultaneously, I abide by the Constitution of the United 932 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,240 States. And I'm not going to even compel 933 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,120 you. I'm not going to ask you 934 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,360 questions about this or try to get the courtesy of your story 935 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:43,000 because you were there and you know what happened without 936 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,120 reading you your rights. And if if you afford me that 937 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:48,360 time to read it and explain those rights to you and you 938 00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:52,000 waive those rights without an attorney present, OK, And give 939 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:55,200 us your side of the story. This is the sole single chance 940 00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:01,640 in history that you have for some, some true, I guess some, 941 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,360 some truth, man. OK, I don't know how else to say 942 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,280 it. We we know everything. 943 00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:09,080 And I'm, I'm telling you right now, Sean, look at me just for a 944 00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:09,600 second. OK? 945 00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:12,560 We know more. The officers didn't pressure 946 00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,480 him, they just looked him in the eye. 947 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:18,080 We know more than you think. This wasn't an interrogation. 948 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,040 It was a final chance to change the truth. 949 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,720 History would remember. We know more than what we're 950 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:26,880 telling you. And I don't know how else to say 951 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,640 it without actually saying it, OK? 952 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,960 But we know more than what we're telling you right now. 953 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,120 We are here. We drove up from Colorado to 954 00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,600 give you the the courtesy in the time because there's other 955 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,840 people there. We know that. 956 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,200 We know that there's not one sole person responsible for 957 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,040 this. But at some point, none of that 958 00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,560 is going to matter. So that's why we need to know 959 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,520 what is what is Casey's side of the story. 960 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,000 Because one thing I don't like doing as a detective I know my 961 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,000 partner doesn't like doing is just having sets of information 962 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,760 and making a definitive conclusion. 963 00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,080 And in fairness, people need to be given the chance. 964 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:02,520 Like, hey, this is what happened. 965 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,000 This is why it went down. Or maybe it was an accident. 966 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:08,000 Maybe it was a fucking mistake. Those are the things we need to 967 00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:12,880 know because at this point, there's only one conclusion that 968 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,920 can be drawn from this only one singular conclusion. 969 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:19,560 And if you choose not to talk to us, I hey, brother, that is, 970 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:21,480 that is your right. And I, I'm not going to ask 971 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:22,480 anything. We're going to get up out of 972 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:24,040 this room and walk away. And you're probably not going to 973 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,400 talk to us again. But our case is done at that 974 00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:27,200 point. OK. 975 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,160 We, we're going to counsel with the district attorney's office 976 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:32,080 and make a determination as to what we need to do. 977 00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,840 This is your titles, so if you would like a minute to think 978 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,520 about it, I can give you that. If not, I'd be happy to go over 979 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:39,640 this forum with you. Ross. 980 00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,640 Yes, it's up to you man. We don't want to answer any 981 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:44,840 questions until you've been read. 982 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:51,720 You're right, correct, Right. OK, so I will. 983 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,000 It's up to you what's going on, right? 984 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,600 You don't remember half of what you just told me. 985 00:51:57,760 --> 00:51:59,960 I will remember. It so Casey. 986 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,880 Casey. She. 987 00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:07,600 I. Don't remember half of that. 988 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,880 I remember us being at a party and us me going inside and 989 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:14,720 telling her I'll be right back. And then me. 990 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:17,840 Going inside, driving drinks and then sitting down and talking to 991 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,160 this other chick and then passing out. 992 00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,480 And that's the last thing I remembered on my birthday after 993 00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:30,480 all that Chuck cheese shit. That's what I fucking remember. 994 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:41,600 I remember we were downtown. I don't ever remember what. 995 00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,520 I want to talk to a lawyer, OK? So. 996 00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,200 I want to talk to a doctor. All right, we'll get you out of 997 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,920 here. All right, bud, thanks for your. 998 00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,400 Time. What's the fuck? 999 00:53:15,450 --> 00:53:19,570 In another case, DeAndre fired a shot in a park, killing a 16 1000 00:53:19,570 --> 00:53:22,090 year old boy who loved basketball and dreamed of 1001 00:53:22,090 --> 00:53:24,810 becoming a cop. That dream ended on the 1002 00:53:24,810 --> 00:53:27,130 concrete, where laughter once echoed. 1003 00:53:32,050 --> 00:53:33,130 What's up, man? What's that? 1004 00:53:33,130 --> 00:53:35,000 Real. Yeah, right. 1005 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:41,600 A little tired, been out all day, got a freak, everything. 1006 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,600 My name is Detective McIntosh. I'm just on her, detective. 1007 00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,720 Well, we're with the homicide units. 1008 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,280 Just. Do you know why you got here, 1009 00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,880 man? You don't know why? 1010 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:04,560 OK. I'm grandma females, something 1011 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:06,040 about it and I said I was just short you. 1012 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,680 Said where that I'll. Come on, suddenly try. 1013 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,680 I came to the house anyway. OK it. 1014 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,320 Was a lot of y'all she would like if I want to turn myself 1015 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,520 in, that at 10:00 y'all was going to put me on the news. 1016 00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:25,680 All right, well, we did. We did stop by your grandmother 1017 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:27,440 house today. That is true. 1018 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,120 You probably was out with your with your boys or whatever on 1019 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:43,360 though. 2111. All right, so here we have your 1020 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,280 constitutional rights. All right. 1021 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:46,560 Do you know how to read and write? 1022 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,040 OK, so for you, I want you to read this first line for me. 1023 00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,560 All right, right down. Can you sit up? 1024 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:54,560 Sit up straight. What you can see? 1025 00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:59,360 You have the following right in the United States Constitution. 1026 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,000 OK. All right, So this first line 1027 00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,480 right here, OK, you do not have to make a statement or say 1028 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,000 anything. Do you understand what that 1029 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,880 means? OK, so the next one, All right, 1030 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,440 Anything you say can be used against you in court. 1031 00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,120 Do you understand that? Yes, Sir. 1032 00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,440 OK, so that means basically whatever you say to me can be 1033 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:20,760 used against you in the court of law. 1034 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,360 All right, do you understand what I mean? 1035 00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:23,560 Yes, Sir. All right, Fully. 1036 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:24,680 Yes, Sir. OK. 1037 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:28,480 You have a right to talk to a lawyer for advice before you 1038 00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:32,800 make a statement, before any questions are asked of you, and 1039 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,880 to have a lawyer with you doing any questioning. 1040 00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,960 Do you understand what a lawyer is? 1041 00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,240 Yes, Sir. OK. 1042 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,800 So you know what a lawyer will represent you throughout this if 1043 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,760 you have a with your statements, right? 1044 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:48,400 So do you understand that? OK, if you cannot afford to hire 1045 00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,640 a lawyer who won't be appointed for you before any question that 1046 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:51,960 begins, do you understand what that means? 1047 00:55:52,600 --> 00:55:54,880 That pretty much means if you don't have the money for one 1048 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,600 day, we'll appoint one for you in the court. 1049 00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:02,080 Do you understand that? OK, if you do, if you do answer 1050 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:04,560 questions, you have the right to stop answering questions at any 1051 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,640 time and consult with your lawyer. 1052 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,640 Do you understand that part? DeAndre was caught and brought 1053 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,800 in. The officers read him his rights 1054 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,440 slowly. In this room. 1055 00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,120 Time was their ally and the enemy of lies. 1056 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,760 Every second pushed him closer to the truth. 1057 00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:20,320 All right. Do you fully understand your 1058 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,840 constitutional rights? OK, So what I'm going to have 1059 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,280 you do is this initial by each one of those thoughts and then 1060 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:31,640 give me a sentence right there. You know, the Constitution is no 1061 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,240 OK, So the US Constitution is the Bill of Rights. 1062 00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:38,000 Like, you know, like our founding fathers, George 1063 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:41,760 Washington or all those guys, Franklin, they created these 1064 00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,040 laws, right? Here are the ones we talked 1065 00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:46,120 about for you. Not in all of us, really. 1066 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:51,320 OK, Do you understand that? OK, So what about a lawyer? 1067 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,560 Do you understand where a lawyer is? 1068 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:54,920 What's a lawyer? Do explain a lawyer to me. 1069 00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,840 He represent your own court. Well, he'll represent you 1070 00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,400 anytime any legal on anything legal on that. 1071 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:05,440 OK, Can you sign? This just means that you're you 1072 00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:07,040 understand these rights. Do you understand those? 1073 00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:08,920 OK. Do you want to talk with us 1074 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:20,080 today about? So you you basically said that 1075 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:21,840 your grandmother told you while you was here. 1076 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,480 Are you high or anything? OK, so you haven't had any drugs 1077 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:29,000 or anything today? OK, so your grandma told you I 1078 00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,120 was here. So do you have you ever been to 1079 00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,280 Woodstock Park over on Beaver St. 1080 00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:37,880 Music. OK. 1081 00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:38,960 When was the last time you were there? 1082 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,640 Probably days ago. OK. 1083 00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,920 So we saying a couple of days ago it'd be like 2 days from 1084 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:47,800 here, So we sound like 2C around that time, right? 1085 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,720 Thank. You alliance. 1086 00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:52,440 Who are you into the park with it? 1087 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,840 Was me and my brother who? Was your brother. 1088 00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,000 His name who I know about Zoe on Instagram. 1089 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,840 You know about who? Zoe on Instagram. 1090 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:02,760 Zoe. Yeah. 1091 00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:06,440 OK, How long you known Zoe? For a long time we played 1092 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,320 football again. Played football. 1093 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,440 Football, man, you squeak like that. 1094 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,440 What position play I played receiver. 1095 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,080 Lock and turn it down. I stopped man. 1096 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,200 You said you were lock yourself down. 1097 00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:21,240 You was getting locked down. I'm. 1098 00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,640 Just. Asking that you don't like that 1099 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,200 you lose I'll. Play for MOT, then I played the 1100 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,520 Gilbert. After Gilbert, I stopped 1101 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,560 throwing. You should have played football, 1102 00:58:32,560 --> 00:58:34,760 man. That's like you look like you 1103 00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,520 fast or whatever you may be. I don't know. 1104 00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,960 What was your father? All. 1105 00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:43,160 Right. So you say, you say so you known 1106 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:44,680 as though for a long time you just don't know his name. 1107 00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:46,680 OK. And who else you were with? 1108 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,000 Giselle, go see some girls. OK, who are the girls? 1109 00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,840 You got a girl 1. Of my girls, man. 1110 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,520 Who is a girl? See Haley Haley on the 1111 00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:01,200 restaurant. OK, how long are you a Haley man 1112 00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,360 there? We have made a day like we did 1113 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,560 first. We went first for a long time. 1114 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,480 OK so when y'all was at the I mean did y'all like from your 1115 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:10,920 grandma house? Did y'all walk from your grandma 1116 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:12,840 house or how did y'all get up to the park? 1117 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,080 Did y'all you rode your bike up there? 1118 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,960 OK, so you and Haley rode y'all bike up there? 1119 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:23,120 No you and so rode your bike up there and then did Haley got 1120 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,400 meet y'all up there or it was it was already up there. 1121 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,040 OK OK So what was y'all doing at the park this. 1122 00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,240 He said they were just playing ball, smoking weed, relaxing 1123 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,600 with friends. Then someone lost a game. 1124 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:36,320 A gunshot rang out. Everyone scattered. 1125 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,840 One never got up again, left bleeding in the fading light. 1126 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,320 It's still playing basketball, OK, smoking, stuff like that. 1127 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:46,920 Y'all smoking? No that. 1128 00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:48,560 It's fine if y'all were smoking, that's cool. 1129 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,640 We're another drug police man It's fine. 1130 00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,400 It's OK if you're smoking. From I just smoking weed. 1131 00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,680 OK so smoking the weed, the girls are smoking weed y'all 1132 00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,240 too? OK where were y'all? 1133 00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,040 We all just at the court smoking weed or where were y'all at? 1134 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:05,080 We're like at big on. The bench title. 1135 01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:09,160 OK, OK. And that that they just tell me 1136 01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,960 what happened, man. Like dude, we all just just 1137 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,760 shoot hoops are. What was it over there playing 1138 01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,480 basketball, man, it's old. It was a group like the boys, 1139 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,080 OK, as they were running on the game. 1140 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,840 It was a group way. They were getting mad at the 1141 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,200 basketball game. They got mad at the basketball 1142 01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:24,200 game. After the best. 1143 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,160 After the basketball game. Yeah, we went over there and 1144 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,560 started fighting. We started playing basketball 1145 01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,760 and that's man on your side. You heard a shot. 1146 01:00:31,880 --> 01:00:34,880 Everybody started running. OK. 1147 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:37,240 Do you know what happened after that shot? 1148 01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:44,680 No, I ran in love. So like, did you turn your back 1149 01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,320 and you heard the shot or you just heard a shot? 1150 01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:48,360 What's your plan? Best wired shot? 1151 01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:51,400 I got low that back up around. I got you. 1152 01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:53,200 I got. So how did you get home or 1153 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:54,680 whatever? I rode the bike. 1154 01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:57,200 What kind? Of bike you got down here from 1155 01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,320 disaster black and. Green bike, Black and green 1156 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:02,160 bike. So y'all rode your bike back 1157 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,120 then You just go to the house, Chill. 1158 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:10,360 I got you. So did you hear about anything 1159 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,720 that happened at that part? Yeah, it was her. 1160 01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:16,000 Well, really, they was telling me he was saying that the boy 1161 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:19,640 got shot and he was showing me here like I go to where I got 1162 01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,560 shot. They showed his picture on the 1163 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,920 news or. It was on Instagram. 1164 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:25,880 They showed it on Instagram. Who end up showing it. 1165 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:30,280 Was on some girl you. Know her Instagram. 1166 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,520 No, my birthday audition. I got you. 1167 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:37,040 What you what, what you up to the basketball games. 1168 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,200 Like what what? What did you wear like? 1169 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,400 When was that though? I don't wear some blue sweats 1170 01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,800 and a blue shade and. A blue shirt. 1171 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:49,600 A photo on Instagram. A face flashes across the news. 1172 01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,320 Within hours, his name lands in a homicide office. 1173 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,680 The truth begins to unravel, triggered by a social media 1174 01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:58,360 post. I don't have my black forces. 1175 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:03,040 Black forces. OK, OK, damn. 1176 01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,560 So go go to the let me get this straight. 1177 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,440 So y'all, y'all take y'all bikes up there, Meet the girls. 1178 01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:10,960 Haley. What's that? 1179 01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,360 He said. Haley, Haley Haley's up there 1180 01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,440 with y'all. Y'all saw playing basketball, 1181 01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,480 argument starred. You heard a gunshot. 1182 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:22,440 Did you see anybody with a gun up there? 1183 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:29,040 No, I went to float this. I'll do that. 1184 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,480 And it was all about basketball game. 1185 01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:35,000 I was fighting what was there was fighting how many boys were 1186 01:02:35,000 --> 01:02:38,960 there, but who was fighting it? Was like a group of the boys. 1187 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,160 Was a group of Was any girl? Was any girls with? 1188 01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,520 Them. But you didn't know the girls, 1189 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,040 you just knew the girls y'all was with. 1190 01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,160 Who's fighting? I ain't a little boy. 1191 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,840 So if this is you and Zoe who was fighting y'all, they're 1192 01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,360 offs. They ain't fighting a little, 1193 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,600 fighting some other people. I ain't little boys, OK? 1194 01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,680 That's that's crazy. That's so you out of there. 1195 01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:11,600 Never never. You just heard a shot and deal. 1196 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:21,960 Well, I think that for you. Was this the group right here? 1197 01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:24,920 That's the group of people. You're saying? 1198 01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:32,280 They look familiar, right? OK yeah, that's the group, 1199 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,320 right? Correct. 1200 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,120 That's the group of people you're saying, Right? 1201 01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,680 And these are the girls you was with, right? 1202 01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,960 So that's Hayley, right? OK, so that's you in a red 1203 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,880 hoodie, right? OK, that's Hayley, Right? 1204 01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,800 OK, so you sitting in between head and legs, so that's your 1205 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:51,720 girl right? Listen, man, hey, look at me. 1206 01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,720 You know where you're at right now? 1207 01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:55,360 You're in the homicide office, OK? 1208 01:03:56,000 --> 01:03:57,800 And this is probably the only time we're going to talk to you. 1209 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:00,800 So you need to be honest with us because you're not. 1210 01:04:02,640 --> 01:04:04,720 OK? So for starters, we know you 1211 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,800 didn't show up on a bicycle. And we know. 1212 01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:09,160 We know that. Zoe who? 1213 01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,160 Zoe. Who's your boy? 1214 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:11,440 You know him forever. What's his first name? 1215 01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,080 What's his last name? You know him for a long time. 1216 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,400 He's your brother, OK? Yeah, that's cool. 1217 01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:20,400 That's fine. That's fine. 1218 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:22,360 That's fine. So we know you didn't play 1219 01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:23,760 basketball. We know you weren't smoking 1220 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:24,880 weed. We know you showed up with the 1221 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:28,240 girls in a in AZ trip. And Z shirt now. 1222 01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:32,000 OK, he's not asking if you showed up in a Z shirt. 1223 01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:33,960 We know you got out of AZ trip OK. 1224 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,640 We know you guys were so so for you. 1225 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,040 OK. I'm going to just shoot it to 1226 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,000 you straight for you. Detectives confront him with 1227 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,200 calm precision. There's no room left for lies. 1228 01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,480 Evidence shows he didn't ride a bike, didn't play basketball. 1229 01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:51,040 He arrived in a strange car carrying secrets. 1230 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,920 It's time to just make it right, brother, all right and it's be 1231 01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,640 100% honest, you know what I mean? 1232 01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,360 Because the. Lion just looks bad. 1233 01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,320 Yeah, that it just looks bad for you. 1234 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,320 So in that case, right, you listening? 1235 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:08,280 So just off and spread one bro. And be honest because it is your 1236 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,640 life period. I'm telling you so. 1237 01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:15,760 So let's listen. It's your life, OK? 1238 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:20,200 So it's your opportunity to even show some remorse to this family 1239 01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,680 and be truthful. What family? 1240 01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,840 The family of the victim who passed away, who died, who got 1241 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:34,440 killed, OK, I know you. We know you don't know him. 1242 01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:38,640 But something happened. Whatever it was, it was, it was 1243 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:40,360 fucked up. Whatever happened at that park, 1244 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:46,920 OK, whatever it was, brother, now it's just your time to tell 1245 01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,760 us your side of what happened, what actually happened. 1246 01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:53,240 So I just told you. You did OK. 1247 01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,360 You, you you told us part of what happened. 1248 01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,480 You told us you was at the park, OK? 1249 01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:58,880 We knew that. OK. 1250 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:05,080 But this young man who was shot, OK, it's your turn to be honest 1251 01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:08,680 and tell your side. And tell the last one OK, so. 1252 01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:11,760 That's the story you want to go with. 1253 01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:14,120 I'm saying that's what I'm telling y'all. 1254 01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,960 I ain't got no more question. I'm our question to you is for 1255 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:22,120 you to be honest and tell us the 400% truth because you don't 1256 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:23,400 have no more opportunities after this. 1257 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:32,840 You know what I mean? I don't know what type of what 1258 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,920 you you think you're, you know, I don't know if you like if it's 1259 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:39,520 helping you with the girls or whatever, not to say, but it's 1260 01:06:39,520 --> 01:06:42,160 not it's not looking good for you in that aspect, OK. 1261 01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:48,520 I'm trying to cut out. You got nothing to do with 1262 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,280 shooting. OK. 1263 01:06:50,800 --> 01:06:53,320 So that was, again, you were sitting on the bench with Haley, 1264 01:06:53,960 --> 01:07:05,760 OK, You being at the park, spitting on our victim, that's 1265 01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,920 like, that's total disrespect. Did he spit on you first? 1266 01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,680 Spitting on what of it? Did he spit on you first? 1267 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:17,560 Who? How do you think I got those 1268 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:18,320 details bro? I don't. 1269 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:21,920 Know what you're talking? About so this know that there's 1270 01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:25,160 more to come with there. Can I see who you talking about? 1271 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:27,640 I only know you talking. As far as what? 1272 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,520 What are you talking about? What I'm talking about as far 1273 01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:33,520 what question are you asking me? Spitting on somebody? 1274 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,360 OK, you spit on our Vietnam, he's dead. 1275 01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:38,840 OK, you spit at him. You spit on him. 1276 01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:40,840 All. Right. 1277 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,760 How long you been out in that side of town? 1278 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,000 How long you stayed out there? Well. 1279 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,160 He denies it, but traces remain. The spit, the stare, the 1280 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:02,400 presence of a gun. A stranger's death now binds him 1281 01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,920 to a charge he never saw coming but can no longer escape. 1282 01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,000 Just out on the West Side. How long you lived out there? 1283 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:12,200 I don't live on the West side. OK, where do you live? 1284 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,840 Where on your side OK. You know, to carry a gun. 1285 01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:20,319 No, no gun. Never touched a gun. 1286 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:25,080 No. So not back in not last year 1287 01:08:25,080 --> 01:08:28,279 when you got busted for being in a car, being a couple of gun on 1288 01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:30,439 that one. No, no. 1289 01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:32,960 And I've got a place to cut again. 1290 01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,800 Yeah, no. OK, that wasn't your gun. 1291 01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:37,840 We never got caught in the gun. No gun. 1292 01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:39,479 OK. All right. 1293 01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,960 So back on Tuesday night at the park when these guys were 1294 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:46,040 fighting, did anybody come at you with a gun or a knife? 1295 01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,040 No. Sure, OK. 1296 01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,479 How far were you when the shooting happened? 1297 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:54,279 Yeah, at the court. At the court, about how far? 1298 01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,680 I don't know why I was at the basketball court. 1299 01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:58,840 You know about like feet or yards or anything like that. 1300 01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,399 What you counting all that? No. 1301 01:09:01,399 --> 01:09:02,960 How close were you? Could you see their faces? 1302 01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,840 No, I just saw it broke people. OK. 1303 01:09:07,399 --> 01:09:09,279 Anybody come up and try and fight you, blow up on you? 1304 01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,200 No. Yeah, no one, no one pulled a 1305 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:16,160 gun or pointed a gun in your face, came out with a knife. 1306 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,080 Throw. It in the ground and kick you or 1307 01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:20,319 anything like that. You got any injuries anywhere 1308 01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:22,120 like you've been beat or stomped on? 1309 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:25,399 So. It's just you and Zo up there, 1310 01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:26,359 huh? Yes, Sir. 1311 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,359 What's those name again? Zo. 1312 01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,160 You know his first name. 1st, I ain't got to tell you. 1313 01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:34,319 Yeah, I see my lawyer can answer that question. 1314 01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,520 OK, is. That what you're saying right 1315 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:38,200 now? You want a lawyer. 1316 01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,200 Yeah. OK, alright, alright. 1317 01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:44,040 So just so you know, you're being charged with murder, OK, 1318 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,920 in possession of a firearm. OK, we're. 1319 01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,640 Going to step out and do some paperwork, but if you need 1320 01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,640 anything or if you want to talk to us again, knock on the door. 1321 01:09:53,160 --> 01:10:08,200 All right. So what are you saying? 1322 01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,000 You know, I'm trying to move fast about what happened. 1323 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:21,360 What you say? Oh, go on. 1324 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,440 Just fucking go. What happened, Jan? 1325 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,320 There we go. Getting getting charged. 1326 01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:36,230 I'm ready. Well, I don't know what to say. 1327 01:10:36,230 --> 01:10:38,870 I just know they say they going to take you in and it's going to 1328 01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:41,710 be a long time before they figure everything out and sort 1329 01:10:41,710 --> 01:10:44,000 it out. But they saying that they wasn't 1330 01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:46,760 saying he was guilty or whatever, but they got to figure 1331 01:10:46,760 --> 01:10:50,000 it out. And then they just got to get 1332 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:52,000 down to the bottom line and see what's going to happen. 1333 01:10:52,000 --> 01:11:01,520 And then they said they got enough evidence to book you in. 1334 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:02,520 I'm not going to have to go around. 1335 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,480 Sitting across from his mother, the only family in the room, he 1336 01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:18,960 bows his head. No more jokes, no more 1337 01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,760 misunderstandings. Now only one question remains. 1338 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:27,880 Can there still be a way back? She said she don't get you a 1339 01:11:27,880 --> 01:11:30,280 lawyer, so you don't have to be saying nothing. 1340 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:32,880 You could just talk to the lawyer and whatever happened, 1341 01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:36,520 you could just let the lawyer know and the lawyer let them 1342 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,840 know because you don't you don't know what's going on. 1343 01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:42,880 You don't know what to do or what to say. 1344 01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,960 So it's best for you not to say nothing, to take this time to 1345 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:50,480 just think about your actions on what you're going to do when you 1346 01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:53,400 get up out of here and how you going to make a change in your 1347 01:11:53,400 --> 01:12:01,310 life. So I don't know what kind of 1348 01:12:01,310 --> 01:12:03,790 evidence or whatever they got because they didn't show it to 1349 01:12:03,790 --> 01:12:10,080 me, but they said when I get a chance, they say they ran this 1350 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:12,920 past the judge and that's the only reason why they was able to 1351 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:14,920 arrest you because they have evidence. 1352 01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:18,800 So just let them go through the evidence to see what it is they 1353 01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,720 gave. You know that if you know that 1354 01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:24,960 this ain't you and this ain't what nothing that was done, then 1355 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,120 you just got to sit back and pray. 1356 01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:35,080 You just got to sit back and pray and everything will be 1357 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:36,680 alright. Ain't no point in crying because 1358 01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:42,280 what's done is done. What's done, Sir, there's no 1359 01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:44,640 point in crying. You can only take this time to 1360 01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:49,080 sit back and think about the people you choose to hang out 1361 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:54,080 with while this happened, Who was trying to impress who was 1362 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:56,560 trying to protect who or whatever it was. 1363 01:12:57,640 --> 01:13:02,760 All you know is this not the life you want to live and you 1364 01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,680 want to pray if you get a second chance, why you going to turn 1365 01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,720 this hair around? OK, so your life ain't over. 1366 01:13:11,240 --> 01:13:15,720 You just need a second chance. So that's what you need to dwell 1367 01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:21,880 on and pray about the second chance and sit down and think 1368 01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:26,680 about how you going to make this happen and obey your parents and 1369 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,720 come in and come home on time. Come in and come home. 1370 01:13:29,720 --> 01:13:32,240 Number one, streets don't love you. 1371 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,760 We love you. Not the streets. 1372 01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:39,280 See what the streets get. You dead or in jail. 1373 01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,240 So leave the streets alone. You get your second chance. 1374 01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:45,480 You come home when you make something out of yourself. 1375 01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:52,320 Understood. So don't worry about it. 1376 01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:53,800 Drink some of this soda. Suck it up. 1377 01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:55,760 You are. You a man now? 1378 01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:01,960 You got to suck it up. You a man now wipe it up, suck 1379 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:04,480 it up, drink some of your soda because I don't know when the 1380 01:14:04,480 --> 01:14:07,960 next time you're going to get a soda for me and just sit around 1381 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,640 and think about it and wait on your lawyer. 1382 01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:19,560 The lawyer will be able to sort it out. 1383 01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:23,360 Both done is done now and you heal. 1384 01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,120 Just try not to get into nothing else. 1385 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,400 And like I said, when you get your second chance and leave 1386 01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:38,080 this alone, we get this alone. I keep trying to tell you, not 1387 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,560 in a throwaway child is not the lifestyle you supposed to be 1388 01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:42,520 living. You don't have everything. 1389 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,520 Just leave it alone. I've been praying. 1390 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:58,880 So you pray, I pray, you safe. Ain't nothing happened to you. 1391 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:02,560 You're not dead. So prayer work. 1392 01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:07,920 OK. So just pray, Suck it up. 1393 01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:11,120 Don't worry about it. Most understand. 1394 01:15:17,480 --> 01:15:20,640 Inside a cold interrogation room, a mother's voice trembled. 1395 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,000 All you need is one second chance. 1396 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:26,400 Leave the streets behind. For the first time, he listened 1397 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:33,240 not to argue, but to understand. Now you just got time to think. 1398 01:15:50,040 --> 01:16:02,880 I don't know if you're grandma. But don't be in there crying all 1399 01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,120 night and slept like that anymore. 1400 01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:07,480 But thank you, no call. So like I said, just come here 1401 01:16:07,480 --> 01:16:21,650 and wipe it up. You said you weren't worried 1402 01:16:21,650 --> 01:16:25,090 about this, no high, right? So just don't worry about it. 1403 01:16:25,170 --> 01:16:27,610 I'm still here, but you know, like always been. 1404 01:16:27,610 --> 01:16:42,160 I ain't going no while. Ma. 1405 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:00,800 OK. You ready, Mom down there? 1406 01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:04,560 Oh, OK. Come on, Danielle. 1407 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:09,880 I'll see you in the morning. Maybe it's the house next door. 1408 01:17:10,440 --> 01:17:11,440 OK. Really. 1409 01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,920 I love you so. You'll be all right, OK? 1410 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,760 Maybe just getting some time to sit down and think, 'cause you 1411 01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:19,480 was running too wild. You ain't listening to nobody. 1412 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,840 OK? Yeah, it's all right. 1413 01:17:22,160 --> 01:17:24,840 You'll get a second chance. I know you, baby. 1414 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,200 Just not going to go when you're. 1415 01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:44,360 Ready to come? OK, Could you give me a hug? 1416 01:17:44,360 --> 01:17:49,280 Thank you. I'm sorry you got to go through 1417 01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:54,000 this, but all you got to do is listen to your parents, OK? 1418 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,360 OK. I don't know how things going to 1419 01:17:57,360 --> 01:17:59,920 turn out for you. I ain't got no idea how nothing 1420 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:02,920 going to turn out. No idea at all. 1421 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,720 OK. I had to tell them that I pick 1422 01:18:06,720 --> 01:18:10,400 y'all up, OK? I had to tell them I pick y'all 1423 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:12,480 up, OK? OK. 1424 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,280 But I don't. I didn't know nothing. 1425 01:18:14,320 --> 01:18:16,000 I didn't know nothing to say. I told y'all. 1426 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,280 Don't tell me nothing. Didn't I tell you that? 1427 01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:21,240 OK. All right, David. 1428 01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,120 So I'm so sorry you got to go through what you're going 1429 01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:29,080 through, but if, if, if I help you out of this, you need to get 1430 01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:31,560 yourself together, baby. And it's going to take a 1431 01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,320 miracle. His grandmother arrived holding 1432 01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:37,080 back tears. She didn't have answers, only 1433 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:39,920 prayers. She believed in miracles, but 1434 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:42,400 deep down she knew change had to come from him. 1435 01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,360 No one else could save him. Now it's. 1436 01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:46,640 Going to take a miracle that we don't have. 1437 01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,160 You can tell me a little snap. You can sit back down because I 1438 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,440 don't know what's going to happen, baby. 1439 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,400 I don't know what's going to happen. 1440 01:18:54,960 --> 01:18:57,920 Your grandma don't know. Ain't nothing we can do to help 1441 01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:59,920 you now. It's all over now. 1442 01:19:04,440 --> 01:19:06,480 I know. It's a hard pill to swallow. 1443 01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:13,400 My brother, no. No, nobody, Nobody, nobody. 1444 01:19:15,080 --> 01:19:18,520 That's why when you had, when you had your precious time, it 1445 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:35,760 should be precious time. Well, you have to. 1446 01:19:35,960 --> 01:19:37,840 You have to mind your company that you keep. 1447 01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:42,200 And I always tell you to mind your company that you keep. 1448 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:48,120 You don't even have no business over there. 1449 01:19:48,840 --> 01:19:49,840 You don't know nobody over there. 1450 01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,520 We never took you over there. Daniel like to go play with 1451 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,840 nobody and talk with nobody or nothing other than to go over 1452 01:19:54,840 --> 01:19:57,200 there and play football when he was trying to play football. 1453 01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:04,080 And all of them attitudes and all of that other stuff. 1454 01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:07,000 You can't. I mean, you just can't do it, 1455 01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:10,040 baby. Then you ain't want to listen to 1456 01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:10,800 us. You ain't. 1457 01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:13,640 We couldn't say nothing to you. Nothing at all. 1458 01:20:16,440 --> 01:20:25,240 Tonight, it's too late. So we still praying and we 1459 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:31,040 looking for a miracle. I don't know what happened. 1460 01:20:31,360 --> 01:20:55,660 I wasn't there. OK, baby, I just don't know. 1461 01:20:56,060 --> 01:20:58,460 I don't know. We'll see you in the morning, 1462 01:20:59,260 --> 01:21:00,760 OK? Yeah, we're coming. 1463 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,800 I don't know if you'll be able to say anything to us or not, 1464 01:21:02,800 --> 01:21:04,640 but we'll we're going to be there anymore. 1465 01:21:08,440 --> 01:21:10,240 And you got some serious charges, baby. 1466 01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,760 And I'm glad you didn't listen to your uncle on Secret. 1467 01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:30,800 I'm not. I'm not going to make something 1468 01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:35,600 wrong with. It ready all right I'll walk you 1469 01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,800 out I'm. Going to be praying to you 1470 01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:42,760 later, yes? Ma'am, the case is closed, but 1471 01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:46,400 its consequences still echo. DeAndre McRae faced charges of 1472 01:21:46,400 --> 01:21:50,040 first degree murder and illegal firearm possession, resulting in 1473 01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,360 a 35 year prison sentence, all while still in his early 20s. 1474 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:58,080 One reckless second, one unnecessary trigger pull took an 1475 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,600 innocent life and cost him his entire future. 1476 01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:04,720 Let this be a sobering reminder. 1 Wrong choice, even for a 1477 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,760 moment, can destroy everything. Don't forget to share your 1478 01:22:08,760 --> 01:22:12,960 thoughts in the comments and subscribe to our channel today 1479 01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,320 to receive exclusive perks and never miss another gripping 1480 01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:18,080 story like this.