1 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,320 Yeah, I'm ready. Hey, Jared. 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,600 Yeah, my name is Undershirt. JT Palmer. 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:23,280 Me and you met on the side of the highway at 177 in Matson Rd. 4 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:25,880 at about 3:12 this morning, didn't we? 5 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:26,760 Yes, Sir. OK. 6 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:31,960 And at that time you made a couple of statements to me when 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,000 I put you down on the ground and then after we got, I read your 8 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,960 rights to you, correct? You read my rights before I got 9 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:38,760 up, Sir. OK. 10 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,160 Before you got up. Off the ground? 11 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:41,880 Yes, Sir. But you did make a couple of 12 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,640 statements. Yes Sir, I did before I read the 13 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:45,480 rights without. Me asking anything. 14 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:48,680 Yes, Sir. You just you told me you was the 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,440 guy that I was trying to find. Yes, Sir. 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,720 OK. And then I read your rights. 17 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:53,600 To you. Yes, Sir. 18 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:56,040 And then rights, whereas you had to wrap your main solid. 19 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,800 Then I had your rights, Sir. Anything you say, can we give 20 00:00:58,800 --> 00:00:59,320 you in? Court. 21 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,240 Yes, Sir. You haven't talked and returned. 22 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:03,720 You haven't prayed when you've been questioned. 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:06,040 Yes, Sir. And if you couldn't hire for the 24 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:07,960 hire one want to be appointed to represent you. 25 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Yes, Sir. And I asked you then if you 26 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:11,760 wanted to talk to me. Yes, Sir. 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:17,160 And you agreed to talk. At the time I said no, but 28 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,400 didn't I? No, I read your eyes to you. 29 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,640 But. Whenever you asked me if I 30 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,560 wished to talk with you about it. 31 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,960 You said you didn't know and then you said. 32 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:31,560 Yes, yes. And then, yeah. 33 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,520 That's right. And then you said yes, I've 34 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,840 already told you so I might as well. 35 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:37,880 Is that correct? Yes. 36 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:39,880 OK. And that. 37 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,520 And then during that talk, do you remember what you told me 38 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,120 after I read your Miranda warning to you? 39 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,480 Not word for word, but the effect, yes. 40 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,040 And what do you remember telling me? 41 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:50,760 In summation that I'm guilty, yes. 42 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:52,400 Of what? Of murder. 43 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,640 OK and who did you murder? Gennaro. 44 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,280 OK. And. 45 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:02,160 And how did you murder him? With a gun, I shot him in the 46 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,320 head twice. Three shots were fired, one 47 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:07,400 missed. And where did you shoot? 48 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,680 Where was this did it? Where did this happen at? 49 00:02:11,640 --> 00:02:16,120 Around 5 miles north of Asher OK on our side road do. 50 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,400 You know what that side Rd's called? 51 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,000 No, Sir. Do you know what's on the corner 52 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,880 of that side Rd. Power station, Sir. 53 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,120 Like a substation on any substation. 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,720 Yes, Sir. And does that road go all the 55 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,160 way through? No, Sir. 56 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:32,240 It turns left. OK. 57 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,320 And did you have knowledge of this? 58 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,200 Yes, Sir. Are you from that area? 59 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,800 Yes, Sir. And your mom and dad's house is 60 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:44,880 not too far from there. Maybe half a mile to 3/4 of a 61 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,640 mile, Sir. Can you get to your mom and 62 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:47,920 dad's house by going down that road? 63 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:55,440 Yes, Sir. And you indicated maybe you shot 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:57,720 this guy while he was driving his pickup? 65 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:58,800 Down the road. Yes, Sir. 66 00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:01,280 OK, OK. And that's basically what you 67 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:03,800 told me on the side of the road. Information. 68 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:07,080 Yes, Sir. And in fact, we did find a We 69 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,920 already had found a pickup and there was a body next to it and 70 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:11,760 a ditch. Yes, Sir. 71 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,520 OK. And that's what we're going to 72 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,080 talk about now is that. Are you OK with that? 73 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:18,800 Yes, Sir. So you're agreeing to talk to me 74 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:19,640 again? Yes, Sir. 75 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,560 OK. Did you ever give me your full 76 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,240 name? Jerry Lindreth. 77 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,240 Wayne Murray. And what's your date of birth? 78 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:31,320 July the 20th, 1994. OK. 79 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:34,920 And do you live with your mom and dad? 80 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,480 Do you stay with your mom and dad? 81 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,480 No, I live at the dormitories in college. 82 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,000 Before then, I lived with my grandparents in town. 83 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,160 In town of Asher, yes. OK. 84 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:54,040 What do you use for an address? The my parents house yes. 85 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:59,960 And what is that? 404 Zero 055 Ingram Drive, 86 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:10,120 Asher, Oklahoma 74826. Ingram. 87 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,120 Yes, INGR AM. IMG. 88 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:22,280 INGR AM. Yeah. 89 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,360 And so you go to school at East Central. 90 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,680 Yes, Sir. And is this your first year of 91 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:31,720 college? Yes, Sir. 92 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,840 So you're a freshman at East Central? 93 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:35,880 Yes, Sir. And you said you stayed in some 94 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:37,040 dorms? Yes, Sir. 95 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,280 And what's the name of your dorm? 96 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,920 Sorry, E dormitory, Sir, can. You spell that for me. 97 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:45,520 PESAGII believe. Sir. 98 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:49,280 TESAGIE. PES. 99 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,800 PES. AGI. 100 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,760 OK. And that's a native. 101 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:58,160 Yes, Sir. OK. 102 00:04:58,840 --> 00:05:02,120 And the young man that you stated to me that you shot twice 103 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,240 in the head? Yes, Sir. 104 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:04,960 And his name? Do you know his full name? 105 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,040 No Sir, I only know his first name. 106 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,840 And his first name is what? Gennaro. 107 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,160 I do not know how to spell that, but it is with AG. 108 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,480 OK. And do you go to school with 109 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:14,400 him? Yes, Sir. 110 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,960 And do you stay in the same dorm? 111 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:18,640 The same. Building, Sir, Same building. 112 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:24,680 And what's your dorm number? 463D. 463 BDD. 113 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,800 Yes, Sir. You don't hear this? 114 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,560 No, but I know it's an E section. 115 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,960 E section and how do you know him? 116 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,600 Towards the beginning of the year we met in a mutual friends 117 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,000 room playing video games Sir. OK. 118 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,800 And do you take any classes with him or? 119 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:46,520 No, Sir. OK. 120 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,960 So you know him through a mutual friend and you guys know him in 121 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,760 the same dorm? Yes, Sir, different different 122 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,520 sections. Yes, Sir, but it's. 123 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,720 Literally right down the hall. So do you spend? 124 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,520 Quite a bit of time together? No, Sir. 125 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,000 No, Sir. OK. 126 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,760 The pickup that was he was in tonight and you was in, was that 127 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:07,840 his? Pickup or your pickup? 128 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:09,040 I'm fairly. Sure it was his, Sir. 129 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,200 OK. And you remember what kind of 130 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,960 pickup that was? Black. 131 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,680 I'm sorry, I don't. You don't know. 132 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:18,640 I don't know much about cars. But single cab? 133 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:22,160 Single cab black dent on the passenger side. 134 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:25,520 OK. And can you go back and tell me 135 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:29,600 how you 2 got hooked up tonight or I think this is actually 136 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:37,600 we're talking right now we're at almost 6:00 in the morning. 137 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,440 So can you go back and tell me when you guys got together this 138 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,960 would have been? Maybe around, maybe around 9:00 139 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,720 yesterday evening. So on the 5th. 140 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:59,160 Yes, maybe it was closer to 10. OK, 9 to 10 and have you guys 141 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:02,400 hook up? I went down to his dorm room and 142 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:06,640 asked if I could be given a ride to Walmart in exchange for $20 143 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:07,240 gas money. OK. 144 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,800 And did he agree to that? Yes, Sir. 145 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,200 OK. And did he in fact take you to 146 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,360 Walmart? Yes Sir, we got his pickup truck 147 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:15,920 and he drove me to Walmart. So you talked. 148 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,360 About the Walmart night. Yes, Sir. 149 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:26,600 And that's a couple miles from the school. 2.2 no 1.7 miles, 150 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,520 Sir. 1.7 miles. Yes, Sir. 151 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:32,400 No. So he took me to Walmart. 152 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Yes, Sir. And did you both go in? 153 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,280 No, we did not go in, Sir. And why not we? 154 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Pulled into the parking lot, then I pulled the weapon on him 155 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,360 and demanded that he take me to Asher, Oklahoma, Sir. 156 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,320 And why did all of a sudden did you decide that you need to go 157 00:07:46,320 --> 00:08:00,740 to Asher? Because I was planning to take 158 00:08:00,740 --> 00:08:02,100 him out into the country and kill him. 159 00:08:03,380 --> 00:08:13,280 OK, so when you got him at the dorm, was your intention never 160 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:16,520 to go to Walmart? Yes Sir, you was. 161 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:20,600 In fact, was you at that point already in your mind was going 162 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,720 to take him and kill him? Yes, Sir. 163 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,280 Had he done something to you? That no. 164 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:31,720 Sir. OK, so you just can you kind of 165 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:35,360 tell me when you made this decision that you was going to 166 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,799 take him and kill him? Why? 167 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,559 I made the decision three days prior to the incident, attempted 168 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:45,960 it two days prior to the incident, but he was not in his 169 00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:49,560 room and then did so today as he was in his room, OK. 170 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:54,200 So you've been, you've been praying this for two days. 171 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Two weeks? Yes, two weeks. 172 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,800 But not with the selected individual, no. 173 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,360 And when did you get to the point where you knew it was 174 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,400 going to be him? That was three days prior to the 175 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,440 incident. And why him? 176 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,760 All the kids in college here want on you. 177 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:15,040 I believed that he would have had the least impact, Sir. 178 00:09:15,560 --> 00:09:20,640 Impact of. 11. I believed he didn't have many 179 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:27,000 friends or many close friends. I should rephrase and as his as 180 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,520 he is going missing, his absence would be less notable. 181 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:36,680 OK, So what about if tomorrow school? 182 00:09:36,680 --> 00:09:38,080 Nobody would have thought anything of it. 183 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:43,920 That was the plan, Sir, Yes. And so why did you choose to 184 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,120 take him to Asher? To kill him when? 185 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,920 My plan was for after my killing him, I was going to head north 186 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,040 towards Canada and Asher was further north than Ada. 187 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,840 So and then I know the surrounding terrain and I knew a 188 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,400 good spot. I didn't have that spot planned 189 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:02,840 in particular. If I had planned that for Ada, I 190 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:07,080 would have had a great duck, but I knew a general area. 191 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:10,360 So you brought him to that area because you knew that area 192 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,000 because he was raised there? Yes, Sir. 193 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:14,480 And that's the road that you would travel going back and 194 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,680 forth to your mom and dad's house. 195 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,640 No Sir, I traveled the road further to the South of it, just 196 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,360 the road once out to it, that's the road I would travel going to 197 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,000 my mother's house from the school on my bus route, Sir. 198 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:27,720 What I'm saying, you're familiar with that road. 199 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,840 Yes, Sir. And where it would go to, yes, 200 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,320 Sir, not much traffic on that road at this time, but. 201 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:36,440 Yes, Sir. The only people that go on that 202 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:38,040 road are those that live on that road, Sir. 203 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,360 And you knew that? Yes, Sir. 204 00:10:39,680 --> 00:10:41,600 OK. So when you pulled the gun on 205 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,600 him at Walmart in the parking lot? 206 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,120 Yes, Sir. What did you tell him? 207 00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:49,080 I told him to take new data Asher. 208 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:55,600 Asher and Did he say anything? He panicked, want to pull out 209 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,200 his phone. I inked the phone out of his 210 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:02,200 hand and then he panicked some all kept telling me not to kill 211 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:03,680 him, to make him feel more comfortable. 212 00:11:03,680 --> 00:11:06,360 I unloaded the clip, unloaded the bullet from the chamber and 213 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,920 then over to him, and that eased his nerves a little. 214 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,800 Then I pulled a second clip out of my pocket and set it on my 215 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,560 lap. OK. 216 00:11:16,560 --> 00:11:21,200 And and you drove him to and he so he drove you. 217 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,160 Yes, Sir. And did you have any 218 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,800 conversation between Ada and Azure? 219 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:27,480 The entire time was a conversation, Sir. 220 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,840 Was it by what? Can you tell me what that 221 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,400 conversation was about? From. 222 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,640 Ada to halfway to Asher. It was just my trying to 223 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,240 reaffirm him that I wasn't going to kill him to calm his nerves. 224 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,720 And then from that point on, we was talking on our upbringings, 225 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,200 our past, our family histories, things of more philosophical 226 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:54,200 nature, etcetera, etcetera. OK. 227 00:11:54,200 --> 00:12:02,080 And so did he say any when you had him to pull off of the main 228 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:04,760 highway onto this dirt Rd. No, Sir. 229 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:09,640 Before this time I had pulled out his phone and pulled up his 230 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,160 DPS and showed him where I went to make him feel more 231 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:12,880 comfortable. Sir. 232 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,840 OK. And so when you turn W off of 233 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,760 177 and there's we've already talked about this, there's a 234 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,200 substation there. We didn't pull onto that road 235 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:23,960 Sir. We pulled onto the road to the 236 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:28,560 South of it, drove past Turkey Hill one Rd., turned left, went 237 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:32,240 to around where the Boas lived, made another left past Windham 238 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,360 Lake Estates, went straight and then went down that road from 239 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,160 the other direction. So you came in from the West 240 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,160 side of where the pickups at? West heading east, yes, OK. 241 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:51,480 And so you're headed east on what is known as Substation Rd., 242 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,320 which is the road where the pickup is at now. 243 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:57,880 Yes, Sir. So you had an eased and. 244 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,160 He's driving and you're. On the passing side, he's got 245 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,880 some bullets that you gave him. He had a clip in one round. 246 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,040 Yes, OK. And where was it at? 247 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,480 In his left hand, Sir. And you had a gun. 248 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,360 Yes, Sir. And what kind of gun? 249 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:19,600 Was that Springfield ornery XD40 Smith and Wesson 40 caliber? 250 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,040 OK. And you had the gun and another 251 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,480 magazine, but you didn't have the magazine in the gun. 252 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,000 I did not have the magazine in the gun. 253 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:32,120 Every 5 to 10 minutes he had me put my finger in the how where 254 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,200 the clip goes and show that the round it wasn't chambered OK. 255 00:13:37,680 --> 00:13:42,760 Until you're driving east. And so I guess at some point did 256 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,760 you decide it was now was the time? 257 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:45,720 Yes, Sir. OK. 258 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,880 And what happened? I loaded the gun quickly, 259 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,480 chambered the round quickly, shot once, missed, shot a second 260 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:56,840 time, hit, jumped out of the car, went around. 261 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,480 He was driving 1015 miles an hour, so it was rather slow. 262 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,320 Ran around the hood of the car and of course it was slow when 263 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,600 he wasn't purposely driving. Tried to pull him out, Couldn't 264 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,440 get him out until he already had hit the tree. 265 00:14:09,560 --> 00:14:12,520 Pulled him out there, dumped him into the no. 266 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Before I dumped him into the ditch, I heard him girdling. 267 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:17,720 I'm not sure if that was a physiological or physical 268 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:22,320 process after death, but I thought that he might have still 269 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:25,680 lived through that somehow because he was girdling. 270 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,080 So I shot him again and then shoved him down in the ditch. 271 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:29,640 I then. Got his phone. 272 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,280 OK, hang on, let's back up just a second. 273 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:33,600 Yes, Sir, you fired. The first round? 274 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:34,720 Yes Sir. And you missed? 275 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,240 Yes, Sir. Do you know where that round 276 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,120 hit? I believe it hit the top of the 277 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,560 door, but it might have hit the window. 278 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,400 You said did the window bust the window? 279 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,960 Did bust Sir, but I don't remember if that was the first 280 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,040 through the second round. OK, so you you fired once and 281 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:47,880 missed. Yes, Sir. 282 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,720 And you fired the second round? Yes, Sir. 283 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:51,600 And did you hit him then? Yes, Sir. 284 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,680 And you hit him in the head. In the side of the head. 285 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,200 Yes, Sir. So it would have been he was 286 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:55,800 right. Here it was. 287 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,280 Around here, Sir. The right hand side of his head. 288 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,040 Yes, Sir. Somewhere about a year. 289 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:04,200 Yes, Sir. And he was the cat started 290 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,560 bearing off the road. To the left. 291 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:07,320 Sir. OK. 292 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:09,520 And that's. When you got out and ran around. 293 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,640 Yes, Sir. And you opened the door. 294 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,160 Yes, Sir. And you tried to pull him out. 295 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:18,200 Yes, Sir. And so when you shot and he was 296 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,120 still guard, guard on. Yes, Sir. 297 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,960 So was he setting up when you shot him that headed? 298 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:25,360 No, Sir, he. Was lying down on the ground. 299 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,880 So you pulled him out of the truck? 300 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,520 And just threw him on the ground and then I heard him gurgling, 301 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:32,720 so I shot him a second time. And where did you hit him the 302 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,360 second time? I'm not certain, but I believe 303 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:36,320 the head as well. OK. 304 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:40,400 The backside. I believe it was the same side 305 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,880 as the. Same side as before. 306 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,280 Yes, Sir. So you you think you hit him 307 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:47,760 twice, or you know you know you could hit him in a fact once in 308 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,680 the head. Yes, Sir. 309 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,640 And then the. Second round is probably in the 310 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:51,960 head area too. Yes, Sir. 311 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,440 OK, and then you rode him down the ditch? 312 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,600 Yes, Sir. And what did you do then? 313 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,280 I grabbed his phone from inside the vehicle. 314 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,880 I was going to put it on the ground and shoot it as well but 315 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,040 I have a bit of night blindness and didn't see the steepness of 316 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,840 the hill where it started to veer down. 317 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,480 So when I threw it down it slid down the hill and landed screen 318 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,040 side down so I wasn't able to find its location. 319 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,240 So his phone is somewhere around his body. 320 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,400 Yes, it should be. It might be underneath his body. 321 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:26,440 And did you do something with the body after that? 322 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,680 Yes Sir, I repositioned it and then I tried to cover it, 323 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,640 admittedly not well with the leaves, dirts and stick. 324 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,000 OK, a stick. Yes Sir, there was a stick on 325 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:41,640 the side of the hill. I just grabbed everything on the 326 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:43,680 side of the hill and pushed it on top of them. 327 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:49,320 OK, now when you say a stick and I was at the scene, I went down 328 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:50,480 there and you know that. Yes, Sir. 329 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,960 We actually brought you back down there and had you set in 330 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:58,400 the car down there, correct. And there it is still at all. 331 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:04,079 It's about 3 foot long, about inch and champ and down there. 332 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:05,640 And it's right. Across the body, but there's a 333 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,839 whole bunch of blood on it. Is there any particular reason 334 00:17:08,839 --> 00:17:11,839 that stick? It had blood on it and it could 335 00:17:11,839 --> 00:17:14,960 be because I rolled his body on top of it, because if it was on 336 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,319 the side of the hill his body would have crossed over. 337 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,599 I couldn't think of any reason in particular. 338 00:17:19,640 --> 00:17:21,319 Though. OK, so you didn't hit him with a 339 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:23,000 stick or do anything with him with a stick? 340 00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:25,040 No, Sir. I guess that stick just ended up 341 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:26,960 on top of them. Yes, Sir. 342 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,920 It's possible he could rub them over on it and then when you 343 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,360 just cover them up, that stick just ended up on top of the body 344 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,120 it. Ended up on top of them because 345 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,000 the way I covered up came up, yeah. 346 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:43,880 And so after you got the body covered up, what did you do 347 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:47,800 then? I headed back to the truck and 348 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:51,080 tried to get it unstuck. So you put it in reverse and 349 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,920 tried. To and then drive and tried to 350 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:58,360 and it it wasn't going. So after that I. 351 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,440 Literally you say it wasn't going, it was because it was 352 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,160 stuck. I believe. 353 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,040 One of the wheels. Was off the ground and it wasn't 354 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,080 making traction. OK. 355 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,440 And so you could get the truck out. 356 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,000 So what did you do then? I. 357 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,920 Looked to the left and from the headlights I saw that I could 358 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:17,040 still see his own shirt so I covered him up better and as I 359 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:19,440 was finishing that I saw the headlights from a car pulling 360 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,440 over the hill. So I went down and. 361 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:23,840 Which way would it come from? It. 362 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:29,520 Was heading east West from the east side so from the highway 363 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,440 and he was slowing down already so I just came out as quickly as 364 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,200 I could from behind the truck and plied him down by waving my 365 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,080 hands and he asked what was going on. 366 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,120 I told him that I had a drowsed dozed off and veered off the 367 00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:48,920 road and I couldn't get my truck on stock. 368 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:58,400 Then he was AI think he I don't think he knew exactly what 369 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,560 happened, but I don't I think he knew I did something maybe 370 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,600 stealing. I don't know because like you 371 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,760 said, the no one travels down that road. 372 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,240 Did you know him? No, Sir, I did not know him. 373 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,000 But since no one travels down that road and he most likely 374 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,000 lived in that area, he knew that I didn't. 375 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,920 So most likely he was suspicious just from that fact alone 376 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:19,800 because I had no business being on that road. 377 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,200 But he agreed to give me a ride to Asher nonetheless. 378 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:27,680 More specifically, he didn't agree with that until his phone 379 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:32,120 didn't work. We pulled up to about about the 380 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:34,240 highway, then he dialed a number for me. 381 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:38,800 I gave him a fake number. That way it wouldn't answer and 382 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:43,040 if it did answer then I could just make something up whenever 383 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:45,320 it didn't answer. It was a phone that was out of 384 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:49,200 Surface. He agreed to take me into Asher 385 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,960 so I could get my cellular phone. 386 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:54,080 I don't have a cellular phone to call someone that I knew that 387 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,040 could Get Me Out. And what did he take you to in 388 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,080 Asher? My grandparents house. 389 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:01,400 And what is your grandparents name? 390 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:06,480 Ethel, I don't know if it's from Roger, Roger Canal. 391 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,120 And so he took you in What? And what do you know their 392 00:20:11,120 --> 00:20:13,480 address nature. Three O 6 E Salter St. 393 00:20:14,120 --> 00:20:15,600 OK. And that's where he took you to? 394 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Yes, Sir. OK. 395 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:17,880 And you got out. Yes, Sir. 396 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,680 OK. And what'd you do then? 397 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,480 I went into the house, I had a Coca-Cola. 398 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,960 I called my roommate from college and told him that I had 399 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,040 an accident and wondered if he could either Get Me Out of the 400 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:31,960 ditch or knew anyone that could Get Me Out of the ditch. 401 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:36,600 What's your roommate's name? Shane Schroth, then. 402 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,840 Does he have a cell phone? Yes, Sir. 403 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:41,880 And you know that number. Not off the top of my head, Sir, 404 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:46,440 but if I had a phone, I could tell you it's like a one. 405 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:52,000 I know. All right? 406 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:58,320 I can tell you it now 1-405-694-0359. 694. 407 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:02,360 O359. And what's his name again? 408 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:08,080 Shane Shroth. And he goes to school there. 409 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,040 Yes, he also graduated from Asher with the class. 410 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:16,000 With your, you know, we talked before and you did actually 411 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,440 graduate from Asher. Yes, Sir. 412 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,240 OK. But you would have graduated 413 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,280 with him. Yes, Sir, he did. 414 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:21,160 And what's? Your friend's name. 415 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:28,720 Schroth, SCHROTH. OK, so he knew you from Asher? 416 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:29,520 Yes. OK. 417 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,240 And we were roommates also in college because we were fairly 418 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,040 good friends. He. 419 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,160 Did so you guys in the same dorm, same room? 420 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,880 Yes. And so you told him you were 421 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:38,760 stuck. Yes. 422 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,040 I told him that I'd rent my car off the ditch and asked if you 423 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,840 knew anyone that could Get Me Out. 424 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:44,720 Do you own the car? No, Sir. 425 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:49,480 Did he not know this? He didn't ask, Sir. 426 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,600 OK. And what did he tell you? 427 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,360 He. Said he would try to call his 428 00:21:56,040 --> 00:22:00,960 mother to see if his father could do it for me and they were 429 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,960 asleep so there's no answer. So at that point I decided I 430 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,960 should go off on my own and I got that account of WD40 and was 431 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,480 going. Where'd you get this account of 432 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,840 WD40 yet? I stole it from his parents. 433 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,280 OK, let's back up just a second. Yes, Sir. 434 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:21,080 Did you say you take your grandparents? 435 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,480 Yes, Sir. OK, how did you get to his 436 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,600 parents house? He was on the other side of 437 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:26,640 Asher. I walked. 438 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,760 OK. When you say the other side of 439 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,960 Asher will help me out east of Asher W Asher north or South? 440 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,280 Asher. South South of the quick stops. 441 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,760 No, it's in the town, just on the South side. 442 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:41,280 OK, you don't know their. Address. 443 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:45,160 No, Sir. So you well after I'm just 444 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,560 trying to make. Understand this? 445 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Yes. So you called him from your 446 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:50,360 grandparents house? Yes, Sir. 447 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,520 And then he tried to call his parents. 448 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,040 Yes, Sir, and no answer. No answer, Sir, So you go. 449 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,800 At your grandparents house. Yes, Sir, And you? 450 00:22:56,800 --> 00:22:58,360 Walked to his mom and dad's house. 451 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:00,360 Yes, Sir. About how far is that from your 452 00:23:00,360 --> 00:23:02,760 grandparents house? Not far at all. 453 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:08,520 It's maybe 8 to 9 blocks. I don't know mileage that. 454 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:09,800 And you walked to their. House. 455 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,440 Yes, Sir. And did you knock on the door? 456 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,560 Or I just. Got the can of WD for you and. 457 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:16,920 What was your dad? Outside, Sir. 458 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,560 On porch or? They live in a trailer house, 459 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:21,840 Sir. It was to the right if they're 460 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,960 entering Kuai. Just sitting on the ground or? 461 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:27,880 Sitting on top of milk, right? OK, so but it was in the yard. 462 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:30,160 Yes, Sir. OK. 463 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,400 And so. And why did you get to WD40? 464 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,160 WD40 is a solvent, it would help degrade the Oreos from my 465 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,960 fingers and get rid of my fingerprints Sir. 466 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,040 OK. So you're going to take this 467 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,720 kind of WD40 and go back to the crime scene and used WD40 on the 468 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:49,680 pickup? Yes, Sir, to try to get rid of 469 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,000 your finger prick. Yes, Sir. 470 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,920 OK. And did you do that? 471 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:58,640 No Sir, when I was on my way back as opposed to going down or 472 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:02,640 directly to it, I cut through forest area there by an 473 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:08,600 abandoned trail house and as I was entering the general area 474 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,320 about the crime scene I heard I believe it was an elderly 475 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,960 gentleman cough. I'm not sure who. 476 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,320 I'm not sure what I just left because, well, around that area 477 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,560 the man who gave me a ride into town was an elderly gentleman. 478 00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:24,160 I concluded he might have went back and they had lights and the 479 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,360 brake lights were still on. I thought he might have went to 480 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:29,360 turn him off so my battery wouldn't have done it. 481 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,760 And then he saw the at least the blood, probably the body. 482 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,160 The other body wasn't well hidden at all. 483 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,360 OK. That's the conclusion I reached 484 00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:40,800 anyways. You was in the woods. 485 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,840 Yes, Sir. And so you don't really know who 486 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,160 it was. And I just. 487 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,400 Heard an overturement. Cough could you see the pickup? 488 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:47,920 No, Sir. OK. 489 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,680 So you couldn't, you couldn't see the pickup. 490 00:24:51,360 --> 00:24:53,640 No, Sir. And so you've been on. 491 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,360 Were you on the South side of the road in the woods? 492 00:24:56,360 --> 00:24:59,240 Yes, Sir. And so, but you never could see 493 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:00,960 the pickup again or know who was there. 494 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,320 No, Sir. So what did you do then? 495 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,240 I I headed back east instead of South. 496 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,120 Took a different route to get out of the wooded area around 497 00:25:09,120 --> 00:25:11,520 the barbed wired fence. Jumped the barbed wired fence. 498 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,680 Headed South along another barbed wire fence I found next 499 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:16,400 to the highway. Well, you couldn't see the 500 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,520 highway, but you could easily hear it and I could see the 501 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,080 substation from there pretty clearly. 502 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,400 Headed South along that, came across another barbed wire 503 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:27,120 fence, jumped it, and then headed to where I started out at 504 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,000 at that abandoned trailer house there. 505 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,200 Then I walked away, headed north. 506 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:33,800 Yeah, the abandoned trailer house. 507 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,120 Is it South of the substance? Yes, it's South of the 508 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,680 substation. About how far? 509 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,480 Maybe 100 yards. You know what side of Rd. it's 510 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,280 on? West Side. 511 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,920 West Side, it's up. The ways a little it's in a the 512 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,200 you know how tradable houses out in the country, they'll have 513 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,800 driveways moving to them. So I'm not sure if you can see 514 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,720 it from the highway or not, but and the driveways run down. 515 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,280 I happen to know no one lives there. 516 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,920 So I figured that was the perfect vantage point to get to 517 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,920 the crime scene again. So did you get back on the 518 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:05,840 highway? Yes, Sir. 519 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,120 And which way did you go? No, Sir. 520 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,200 You know, what were your intentions walking north? 521 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,560 Canada, Sir. You're going to Canada? 522 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:14,360 Yes, Sir. OK. 523 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:19,120 I had hoped that by determining that I was heading South, you 524 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,280 went to Asher. You would have known my 525 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:27,200 grandparents house, and I was hoping that my name would 526 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,240 probably show up somewhere in the course of this little thing. 527 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,840 I didn't expect it to be found so quickly. 528 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,520 Why do you think it would be? I didn't think someone would 529 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,160 drive down that road. In my original plan, I gave 530 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,480 myself maybe 6 to 8 hours to get out of the area, but since it 531 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:47,200 was found so quickly, at least I believed so at the time. 532 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:50,520 I didn't want to revise the plan because I had headed South 533 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,080 originally going into town and I was hoping you'll think that I 534 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,920 was heading towards Mexico as it's much closer and probably 535 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:04,000 easier to get past the border. So you're walking north on 177? 536 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,880 Yes, Sir. And what side of the road was 537 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,040 you on? I was on the right side of the 538 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,360 road, Sir. Yeah. 539 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,440 So if you're going East side and you was walking, yes Sir. 540 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:16,720 And what happened then? I had tried hitchhiking part of 541 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,480 most of the way because the only way this was going to work, 542 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,800 factoring in my belief that you all found the crime scene, is if 543 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,880 someone were to give me a ride there and then. 544 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,920 However, that didn't happen. Most of the people were 545 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,520 truckers, so they just kept driving. 546 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,680 They have a place to go. And then whenever your patrol 547 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,040 car was pulling it behind me, I didn't know it was a patrol car. 548 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,280 I started my thumb out and. You was there for the rest. 549 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,560 And that's when I that's when me and you first gave in contact. 550 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:54,280 Yes, Sir. And you advised them to get on 551 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,440 the ground, correct? Yes, Sir. 552 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,880 OK. And that's when I I had you put 553 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,400 your hand behind your back. Yes, Sir. 554 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,960 And then when I approached you, I asked you for my safety and 555 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:05,240 your safety. Did you ever get it? 556 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:06,920 Yes, Sir. And you said no. 557 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:08,520 Yes, Sir. And you remember what else you 558 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,320 said? I might have mentioned the 559 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,400 ammunition in my left. Pocket, Sir. 560 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:16,760 Yes, Sir. And then what else? 561 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,600 I'm the one you're looking for. And at that point I told you to 562 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:31,160 be quiet, and I got you read your rights to you. 563 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,520 Oh, is that correct? I'm not sure, but if you're 564 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,000 saying it's correct, well. No, I'm do you remember that 565 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,600 conversation that when you said? No, Sir. 566 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,360 I said, well hang on just a second. 567 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,040 Yeah, you did say that. Yes, Sir. 568 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,200 I did read your rights to you, yes Sir, and I read your rights 569 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,400 to you at that point. Yes, Sir. 570 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,240 OK. I wasn't aware he was telling me 571 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,720 to be quiet. I thought he was just saying I 572 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,760 need to read your rights. But I I told you, you do 573 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,560 Remember Me saying be quiet for a second, Yeah. 574 00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,160 Hold on a second. Yeah, something to that. 575 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:05,520 Yes, Yeah. OK, Jared, we're we've talked 576 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,240 about this and you told me the gun. 577 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,880 You have the gun in the pickup. Yes, Sir. 578 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:13,560 OK. And and we've talked and and 579 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,560 I've told you that, you know, you've already told us about the 580 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:17,640 homicide. Yes. 581 00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,800 And you, you told us about shooting them. 582 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,880 Yes, Sir. The gun's not in the truck. 583 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,320 It was in the truck, Sir. And so I need to know where that 584 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,480 gun's at. When I left the scene, it was in 585 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:30,760 the truck, Sir. It was still in the. 586 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,080 Truck. It was still in the truck, Sir. 587 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,320 Where? Was it at in the truck? 588 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:39,600 It was, I believe it was on the center console, but it's 589 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,560 possible it could have been between the driver's seat and 590 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:42,320 the center console. OK. 591 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,880 Because the center console just pushed up, it's not down. 592 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,760 I don't remember that. Well, you kept saying it was on 593 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,320 the center console. To be on the center console, the 594 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,960 center console would have to be in the down position, correct? 595 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,080 Yes, Sir. The center console is up, so was 596 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,840 it up or down when you was there? 597 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,760 I think it was down, Sir. OK. 598 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:12,280 So, but your intention is it, can I ask you why you'd leave 599 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,200 with a gun there if you just killed somebody and you was 600 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,280 going to get to Canada? Because that man pulled up too 601 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:20,360 quickly, Sir. OK. 602 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,400 And was that your gun? No, Sir. 603 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,040 And where did you get that gun from? 604 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:34,680 I stole it two weeks ago from a man named Daniel Davis, 217 N 605 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,840 Division St. Now where's Division St. 606 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,000 It's the if you're going down old 18. 607 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:42,960 And what? Town. 608 00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:44,200 Is it in Astor? Oklahoma. 609 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,440 And his name's Daniel Davis. Yes. 610 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,360 And how did you steal it from his house? 611 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:53,560 I went into his house, he and his family and my family are on 612 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,960 good terms. I just walked in the door and 613 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,880 went back to his mother's room and told her that I had a video 614 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,280 game to return to Daniel. Then I went into Daniel's room, 615 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,560 put a video game that I brought with me as a way to get into the 616 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,680 door and got the gun. OK. 617 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:16,200 And so was it in a box or was it? 618 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,360 Yes, Sir, it was in a case. And where's the case up? 619 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,120 It's still at his house, Sir. Because you took the gun out of 620 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,520 the case. I took the gun in two clips, 621 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,880 Sir. All the clips and where's the 622 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,320 right? So there's just two. 623 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,840 Yes, Sir. And where's there ammunition in 624 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,640 them? Yes Sir, there was 12 rounds in 625 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,400 each clip. Since I fired 3 rounds from that 626 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,560 one clip, that means there's 9 rounds in it Should be and the 627 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,280 other clip had 11 rounds in it because 1 was chambered and the 628 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,400 other round was. I unchambered it and handed it 629 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:46,760 to them. OK. 630 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,080 Now, I brought you in here and we was uncuffing you. 631 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,520 I was just checking the pockets of your jackets. 632 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,960 Make sure you didn't have any weapons in your pockets, 633 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,760 correct? Yes, Sir. 634 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,680 And I pulled out this kind of WD40 out of your right coat 635 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,560 pocket. Yes, Sir. 636 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,160 And in your left coat pocket there is a purple crown rural 637 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,040 bag. Yes, Sir. 638 00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,440 And I took that out of your pocket. 639 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,000 Yes, Sir. And can you tell me what's in 640 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,000 here? Smith and Wesson 40 caliber 641 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,600 round, Sir. And was in part of the rounds 642 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,200 that you stole the guns. No, Sir. 643 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,280 I bought those two or three days later off of a friend of mine, 644 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,440 Sir. Just that, that many rounds. 645 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,720 That plus what was in the clip Sir. 646 00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:28,080 So there was 12 and 12/24 plus whatever in there. 647 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,160 OK, no you, but you said that there was already the magazines 648 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,880 already have bullets in them. No, Sir, I. 649 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,440 Loaded them with the ammunition I bought, Sir. 650 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,480 OK, so when you stole the gun in the magazines, there was no 651 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:39,400 bullets with it? No. 652 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,480 Bullets were in it, Sir. OK. 653 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,240 So you what was in the two magazines? 654 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,760 Nothing, Sir. No. 655 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,360 As for the ammunition, yes Sir. And what's in here? 656 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:48,600 You. You. 657 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,000 Brought off of a friend? Yes, Sir. 658 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:54,560 And you know his name. Not off the top of my head, Sir. 659 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,080 Does he go to college? No, Sir, it's. 660 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:01,640 I call him a friend but he's just a guy and. 661 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,560 Where are you from? Ada, Sir. 662 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,080 Do you know how to get hold of him or? 663 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,240 No Sir, it's a guy I know through a guy. 664 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,200 I just got the word out. I was looking for some 665 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,200 ammunition and then a friend of mine sold it to me. 666 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,400 So do. You don't have any grounds 667 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,240 you're in here. No, Sir. 668 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,160 I believe there is anywhere between 3:00 to 6:00. 669 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,880 Though without pulling them out, they're somewhere between 3:00 670 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,160 to 6:00 rounds of 40 caliber ammunition, correct? 671 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,200 Yes, Sir. OK. 672 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,520 And your intentions is the gun, when you got out into Asher 673 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,720 after you shot this young man, that the gun was still in the 674 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:40,520 truck? Yes, Sir. 675 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,680 And with the magazines. Yes, Sir. 676 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,760 One of the magazines as he was holding one of the other 677 00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,360 magazine, I believe it fell out of the truck whenever I pushed 678 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,200 him out. He I didn't see it in the 679 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,000 floorboard before I left because I was trying to gather it all 680 00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:03,000 up, but I think he might still have it in his left hand. 681 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:04,360 I know it was whole again. It's like. 682 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,640 But. At the crime scene. 683 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,880 Every time in the magazine that was in the gun. 684 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,080 Yes. The one round that you handed 685 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,040 him, yes. And in the floor magazine, yes 686 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,719 he did. So we're talking about a total 687 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,880 of how many rounds you said there was was both of them had 688 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,159 12 in it. Yes, Sir. 689 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,199 So there we should have, we should have you fired 3 rounds, 690 00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:25,960 correct? Yes, Sir. 691 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,560 So there should be 21 rounds and two magazines there and a gun. 692 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,239 Yes, Sir. Plus, well, there. 693 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,239 Yes Sir. 21 rounds and two magazines and a gun. 694 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:46,120 Yeah. And also in your pocket, there 695 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:50,960 was a debit card. MasterCard has the name Jared 696 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:51,840 Murphy. Murray. 697 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:54,480 Murray. And that's you, correct? 698 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:55,199 Yes, Sir. OK. 699 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,160 And this is yours. Yes, Sir. 700 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,560 OK. All right, Jared, I want to ask 701 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,920 you to just sit here for just a second and I'll be right back, 702 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:02,560 OK? Yes, Sir. 703 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,160 OK, Jerry, I've got a couple other things I don't even need 704 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,800 to slide down, all right? Yes, Sir. 705 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,160 I, I believe you'll be honest with me. 706 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:40,240 I believe you've told me stuff that that that I have no qualms 707 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:43,240 about what you tell me. Except for a couple of things. 708 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:48,160 I know for a fact you didn't get the WD40 from the front yard. 709 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,600 You're right, I planned on keeping him out of this. 710 00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:54,400 But I did go into his house. He did give it to me. 711 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,120 And yeah. When you say who? 712 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,880 And when you say him, who you? The parent of the friend that I 713 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,960 called. Shane's. 714 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,760 Shane's father, His stepfather, yes. 715 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,000 And you know his name. Michael Norris. 716 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,880 OK. And what did you tell Michael? 717 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,360 I told him about what had happened and asked for his 718 00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,560 opinion on my next course of action. 719 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,120 Yeah. You mean you told him what 720 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,040 happened? What do you mean? 721 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,000 The murder, I told him about it. So you told you told Shane's 722 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:27,080 father about the murder you just did. 723 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,960 Not the specifics, but the general picture, yes. 724 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:31,800 Can you you mean what you told him? 725 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,760 Not exactly, but I mean, I didn't tell him I fired three 726 00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,080 shots, missed one, shot him in the head. 727 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,960 Not all that. I just said that I got a truck. 728 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,360 I killed the guy for it. It's in a ditch, OK? 729 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:49,160 Did you tell him how you did it? I don't remember, but I might 730 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:50,040 have. OK. 731 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,400 And this is very important. I don't want you to rethink 732 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,240 about this because you said you're trying to keep him out of 733 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:56,080 trouble. Yes, Sir. 734 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,840 And I didn't know more than you think I know. 735 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:04,320 Yes, Sir. So I'm still got the gun. 736 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,280 Yes, Sir. It's not in the truck. 737 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,800 It was when I left the scene that was the whole point of him 738 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,200 taking me back so I could get it. 739 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,640 So he took you back to the scene, he said. 740 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,640 You what? No, he drove me to the abandoned 741 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:22,360 house that I spoke of, Yes. OK, so Mr. Norris gave you the 742 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,800 account of WD. 40 Yes, Sir. And I bravely probably got that 743 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,080 from his bathroom of his house. I'm not aware of where he got 744 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,120 it, but if that's where he says, then yeah, OK. 745 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,560 And so he drove you from Azure back to. 746 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,200 There the scene. Just South of where you return 747 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,080 on substation. Road. 748 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:42,640 Yes, Sir. And that's where the abandoned 749 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,440 dryer house is on the West side. Yes, Sir. 750 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:49,280 And so you got out of the car and walked up through the 751 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,640 abandoned dryer house, down through the woods. 752 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,000 Yes, Sir, and. Then that's when you heard 753 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,240 somebody cough. Yes, Sir. 754 00:37:54,480 --> 00:38:00,280 OK. There is a, Nolt wrote on a 755 00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,080 piece of park on a like a business card on the passion 756 00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:09,320 side window stuck on the pickup. The wind is up and there's a 757 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,240 note stuck in there that says come to the house and then in 758 00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:15,440 the road. Did you write that? 759 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:17,040 No, Sir. Huh. 760 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,720 No, Sir. You didn't write that. 761 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,760 No, Sir. You have any idea how that note 762 00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,280 could have got there? No, Sir, I don't. 763 00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,680 Think anything like that? Was there whenever I left OK? 764 00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,520 So is it possibly that the gentleman? 765 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,600 Yes, when I was on the way back into Asher he had told me that 766 00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,960 some thieves stole about $1000 worth of guns of his and that he 767 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,000 was looking for him and if he found him he would kill him dead 768 00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,760 on the side of the road. Then I said $1000 is a fair 769 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,800 amount of money and he said it didn't matter if it was 50, he 770 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:49,680 doesn't like these so. Is it possible that he could 771 00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,560 have on his way home, he could have stopped and wrote that 772 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,160 note? Yes, that's a possibility. 773 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,240 I won't deny that. Like I said, I thought it might 774 00:38:56,240 --> 00:38:57,880 have been him that called the police. 775 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,640 I still don't know if it was or not, but I thought it might have 776 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,600 been him. He went to turn my lights off 777 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,680 and then saw the blood and then called. 778 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:10,720 But if he did write that note, then I don't think he would have 779 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,920 called the police. OK. 780 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,160 All right. I just want to go over a couple 781 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,560 of points with you and then we're going to take another 782 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:19,280 break. OK. 783 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:23,400 Yes, Sir. And you started this out that 784 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,680 you've actually had this on your mind for about 3 weeks. 785 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,240 Yes, Sir. And you just didn't know who. 786 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,320 Yes, OK. Or or. 787 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,000 Where? Well, I had a general idea of 788 00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,320 the area, but that was picked out about a week ago. 789 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,320 Sir, you. Know was that picked out because 790 00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:46,960 of just being familiar with where the surroundings? 791 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,880 Yes, Sir. And so let's go back to our 792 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:52,480 victim, the young man that you killed. 793 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:56,880 General. You just basically picked him 794 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:02,440 out because you thought that you nobody would miss him if I 795 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,400 understood what you. In general, yes, Sir. 796 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,080 And you told me that on the way to you guys talked from Ada to 797 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:11,960 Asher. Yes, Sir. 798 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,160 About your upbringings? Yes, Sir. 799 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,080 Was your upbringing any different from his? 800 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:18,960 Yes, Sir. And what was the difference 801 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,920 between your upbringing and his? Nothing major. 802 00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:26,520 I mean, we didn't talk on the topic of the upbringings for 803 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:29,640 very long. He just said that he was always 804 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,440 fat and overweight and got made fun of it. 805 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,760 So he had confidence issues and then I said I never well I had 806 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,240 that problem, but that problem stopped in about the 5th grade, 807 00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,880 so. Yeah, and why did it stop? 808 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,080 The bullies that picked on me, I beat them up. 809 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,440 And got a dasher. Yes, OK. 810 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:51,280 So you better if you beat them up not because you just wanted 811 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,200 to beat them up, but because they was making fun of. 812 00:40:53,720 --> 00:40:54,800 You. I had to stop them from making 813 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,040 fun of you, yes. OK, I can understand that. 814 00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:00,920 Let me. Have you done any other thing 815 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,080 that's been violent? Yes, Sir. 816 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,040 The mutual friend that I talked about that and I went through 817 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,960 his name is Wyatt Freeman. He lives across the hall from 818 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,160 me. I don't always remember it's 819 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:18,160 directly across the hall though. Maybe a month, a month and 1/2 820 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,920 into college, we had been hung out almost every night, played 821 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,520 video games. It was all fun and games, you 822 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:31,040 know, And I was talking to him and then the topic of piling was 823 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,360 brought up. And then he said if I got you in 824 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,920 a chokehold, you would tap out. And I said, I'm not going to tap 825 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,160 out. And then he got me in a 826 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,880 chokehold and I was knocked unconscious. 827 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:44,280 And when I woke up, everyone in the room was laughing at me. 828 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,000 And then he said that there was no way I was knocked unconscious 829 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,240 in that shortened amount of time. 830 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,760 And then I punched him in the face. 831 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:54,480 And then he pushed me away and told me to get out of his room. 832 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,280 Then I spat in his face and left his room. 833 00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,520 And then he came to my room and I had a flashlight that I, I 834 00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,040 dropped out of my pocket and was holding it and said, this is 835 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,640 your flashlight, I want to reach for it. 836 00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,600 He pulled me into the hallway and was going to beat me for it. 837 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,440 And then I told him that I was going to let him beat me. 838 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,600 And then whenever they came to break it up, I'd be the one with 839 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,120 all the injuries and it'd be his fault. 840 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:20,080 And then the East Central University Police responded to 841 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,000 that. And his first name is what? 842 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,360 White. I'm not quite sure how to spell 843 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,240 that. Friedman is his last. 844 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:33,960 OK, Jeremy, I want to ask you just point blank, because I 845 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:39,200 mean, you, you sat here and confessed to pretty much 846 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,840 anything in my mind, and I think you might agree with me. 847 00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,840 Just Cole Bradley killed a young man tonight. 848 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:48,400 Or that's not Have you ever killed anybody else? 849 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,480 No, Sir. Have you ever thought of it? 850 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:53,360 More myself than anyone else, Sir. 851 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,040 And when the last time you thought about killing yourself? 852 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520 Three weeks ago, Sir. And what was going on three 853 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:03,080 weeks ago? Nothing in particular. 854 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,920 My grandfather died recently, but that's not related to it. 855 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,320 Before his death, I had similar thoughts almost as frequently. 856 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,920 Your grandfather is the same man. 857 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:16,000 Further than that, you caught the ride to back to his house 858 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,720 tonight or a different. One, yes, my grandparents house, 859 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,520 he lived there with my grandmother, yes. 860 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,320 So your grandfather's dead? Yes, Sir. 861 00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:23,880 And so your grandmother is by herself. 862 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:30,720 She had a friend over, but yeah. But OK, yeah, let me let me ask 863 00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,240 you this, Jared, are you, are you taking any medications for 864 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:34,960 any mental illness? No, Sir. 865 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,480 Have you ever? No, Sir. 866 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,280 Do you take drugs? No, Sir. 867 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,200 Have you ever taken drugs? I smoked marijuana in my mid to 868 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,880 early teenage years. When's the last time you smoked 869 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,960 marijuana? Maybe six years ago, maybe 5. 870 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,760 You ever done any other type of drugs? 871 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,400 No, Sir. You're not on any medication. 872 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,160 No Sir, just an Abirol inhaler for asthma. 873 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,680 Sir, you. Do have asthma? 874 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,960 Yes. Sir So. 875 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:15,040 When you let's go back three weeks ago, when you, you, you, 876 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,720 you started planning that you was going to kill somebody. 877 00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,200 Yes, Sir. And you just didn't know who or 878 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,080 when. Yes, Sir. 879 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:28,920 What made last night the time and who, I can't understand. 880 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,480 Who? As I stated earlier, it wasn't 881 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,160 necessarily last night I made the decision to do it. 882 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,360 And who three days ago and I tried, No, maybe Tuesday. 883 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,240 I made the decision Tuesday, this whole saying days ago 884 00:44:42,240 --> 00:44:45,000 because it's a different day than it was yesterday, that it 885 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,680 was Tuesday that I made the decision it should be him and he 886 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,840 wasn't in his dorm. I didn't try again. 887 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,080 No, maybe I did try again the day after. 888 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,240 I don't remember the days anymore. 889 00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,320 It was Tuesday. I made-up my mind though, on who 890 00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:06,480 it was and I tried that night. And I never don't have a hard 891 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:12,520 time understanding what you. Got out of it. 892 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:15,240 Can you? Can you? 893 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:19,000 Can you help? Me, I don't really get anything 894 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,680 out of it. I mean, but why? 895 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,200 If you wouldn't want to get some food or something, why did you 896 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,640 do it? I guess is what I'm asking. 897 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,200 If I'm pressed to answer, I'll say it's to prove the strength 898 00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,200 of my resolve. But that's only if I'm pressed 899 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,240 to answer. I'm not pressing you, I'm just 900 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,400 trying to understand. Then I don't know why. 901 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,080 OK. So it just. 902 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:44,960 Popped in my head and. Popped in your head? 903 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,120 Yes, Sir. OK, but it's never popped in 904 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,680 your head before. Not other people, Sir, No. 905 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,640 That you've that you've never killed before. 906 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,720 No, Sir. Animals. 907 00:45:57,240 --> 00:46:00,080 No, Sir, I've never haunted. I know how to hunt, I know how 908 00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:04,600 to make a bone arrow, I know how to fuel dress animals and 909 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:06,000 whatnot. But I've never haunted before, 910 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,680 no. And I'm just talking, before you 911 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,760 indicated to me you did not graduate from. 912 00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:21,280 So when you say fucked out, was that because you just couldn't 913 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,200 do it or you just I didn't? Want to do. 914 00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,520 The teachers at the school, as well as all faculty admitted 915 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:27,920 that I was the smartest person there. 916 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,080 They knew I could do the work. I didn't see the point of doing 917 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,400 it if they are, you know, and everyone knows that I could do 918 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,040 it. Well, that was my next question 919 00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,280 because it don't make sense. Somebody that would fuck out of 920 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,680 school would be at East Central. That summer, and I've been going 921 00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:48,280 to an organization called Overbound Math and Science since 922 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,440 maybe three years ago. And would you do any other brown 923 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:56,320 and stiffening East Central? Yes, that's they are both upper 924 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:57,960 bound and upper bound math and science. 925 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,080 It's obviously the. Right of Seminole states. 926 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,760 Also does the same thing so but I don't think you can get to 927 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,520 math and science at Seminole State. 928 00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:07,880 I think that's just all. It's just upper bound, yeah. 929 00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,560 So you've been going to east center upper bound? 930 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,240 For three years. Yes, Sir. 931 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:14,320 So. And. 932 00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,720 What kind of grade are you making at? 933 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,800 College right now I believe I've filled everything except for 934 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,800 choices and Wellness, Sir. Is or you failed everything but 935 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,680 yours. Yes, Sir. 936 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,840 And why is that? Laziness. 937 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:29,640 I would suppose, Sir. OK. 938 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,520 Didn't feel like going to classes. 939 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:36,160 I mean, if I was already up in the central area to eat a meal, 940 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,120 I'd go to. Classes because it's not like. 941 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:39,400 I have a problem going to classes. 942 00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:42,200 It's from the dorms to the central area. 943 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:44,160 I was too lazy to. Travel that distance. 944 00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:50,400 Not because you couldn't do the work. 945 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,400 Not because I couldn't do the work, I was passing most of my 946 00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:57,040 classes before then. And what was your ambitions or 947 00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:02,040 your dreams to be? I had hoped to become a chemist 948 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:08,640 for the Department of Defense. Got a hard doing candidate, 949 00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,920 wouldn't you agree? Yes, Sir. 950 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:20,080 And ask you this and you can answer if you want. 951 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,640 I just I'm having a hard time. Yes, Sir. 952 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:31,280 Do you feel any remorse? I'm sad that I got caught so 953 00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,400 quickly, but that's almost lessened by being caught by 954 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,000 someone who has sheriff on their jacket. 955 00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,480 So but for killing them, no. Yeah. 956 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:43,720 So it makes you feel better that you know somebody had sheriff on 957 00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,240 their jacket that arrested you. Yes, Sir. 958 00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,120 Opposed to what? A. 959 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:49,400 Deputy or someone like that, Sir. 960 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,040 Yeah, well, I'm not the sheriff. I'm aware of that. 961 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:56,720 I'm the undersurer. The. 962 00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,560 Person driving me up here told me that but still it's. 963 00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:03,440 So it makes you feel better that you got caught by somebody up in 964 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,120 rank than somebody under. Here but my. 965 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,160 Question again is do you have any remorse? 966 00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:12,440 No, Sir. Yeah, but about here for a 967 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,400 minute, OK. Yes, Sir. 968 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,600 Yes. Sir. 969 00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,680 My left thumb's been numb since we got to the crime scene. 970 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,840 My left thumb's been numb since we got to the crime scene. 971 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,040 But no, I don't know. I figured when the cuffs came 972 00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:47,720 off feelings would return to it, but in this area it's still 973 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:50,480 numb. I probably just need to work it. 974 00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:53,440 Well, I I haven't. Have you ever been cut before? 975 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,360 No, Sir. Yes, you ain't never been in 976 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:56,280 trouble. No, Sir. 977 00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,440 So if I run a record on you, I'm not going to find anything on 978 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:00,840 you. You might. 979 00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,120 Find that assault from a couple months ago, but that'd be. 980 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,320 It OK and that was when you and the other guy in dorm got into. 981 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,200 It yes. About the chokehold, yes, Sir. 982 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:11,720 OK. I'll tell you attention to go to 983 00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:13,040 college. You probably have a computer, 984 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,280 correct? I have a. 985 00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,120 Laptop, Sir. OK. 986 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:16,520 And it's. Probably at your dorm. 987 00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:17,880 Yes, Sir. OK. 988 00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:24,200 And I know we've talked about this kind of in general that you 989 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:28,440 didn't know who it was going to be or when it was going to be, 990 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:30,320 but you kind of knew where. And. 991 00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:35,880 Then you tried this Tuesday night and then he wasn't there 992 00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:39,840 so he was home. This is now Friday morning, so 993 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,000 it been Thursday night. OK. 994 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:48,800 And and I'll talk to you some about was there going to be 995 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,960 others? I and. 996 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,320 You know, and you, you made a statement earlier that you was 997 00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,640 happy that you got caught by somebody in the Veronica statute 998 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,640 in the Sheriff's Office. So then you understand that I'm 999 00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,560 going to do my job thorough. Yes, Sir, and I. 1000 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:07,400 Understand that completely. And that means that I'm going to 1001 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:09,880 end up getting a search warrant for your computer. 1002 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,080 Yes. Sir, I understand that. 1003 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:17,600 And so if there is it, I'm going this searching your computer. 1004 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:24,160 We we're going to find anything where you had any ideals of 1005 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:26,200 wanting to do a mass shooting in a school. 1006 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,480 No, Sir. Or you were going to kill 1007 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,080 anybody else. No, Sir. 1008 00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:34,120 OK, why would you want me to believe that this was just going 1009 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:40,640 to be a one time thing since you planned this for three weeks and 1010 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:47,040 if I Tuesday night you knew who and you knew when but it failed. 1011 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,560 Yes, Sir. Tell me why I should believe you 1012 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,200 that there just was going to be one person that was going to 1013 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,880 suffer from your consequences of killing. 1014 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,520 You have no reason to believe me, Sir. 1015 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,680 I agree, but so but you're trying to tell me that you're 1016 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:05,320 just going to do it one time and that was going to be the end of 1017 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:06,080 it. Yes, Sir. 1018 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,560 OK, so I'm not going to find anything on your computer that's 1019 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,880 going to be or when I go to college, when myself and this 1020 00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:21,760 team from the DA's office goes to the campus and we talked to 1021 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:26,400 everybody that you're associated with in the dorms, nobody's 1022 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,560 going to tell us that. Well, he's talked about the 1023 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,720 school shooting or killing other people. 1024 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,800 I'm not going to find that. No, Sir. 1025 00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,760 OK. That said, I have been asked by 1026 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:43,320 people including at Asher school if I'm a murderer or ever plan 1027 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,160 on it, but I've never planned on it since 3 weeks ago and I've 1028 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,960 never killed anyone. So the answer has always been 1029 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:50,560 no. I've never been sure if it was 1030 00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,320 jailed in the layer seriously. That said. 1031 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:58,360 OK, I guess I'm just having a real hard time understanding 1032 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:03,280 why. Why him? 1033 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:13,080 Well. If it was a random person, 1034 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:16,400 there's the possibility you could have children or something 1035 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:21,160 of that nature. If it was someone else up there, 1036 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,800 they have a lot more friends, they're a lot more social, so. 1037 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:33,120 So to tell us just about his quota status of not really 1038 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:39,320 having many friends or or being social, it was a good victim. 1039 00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:42,040 His. Presence would be less noticed, 1040 00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:44,400 yes. OK. 1041 00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:50,000 That said, he did have a girlfriend and some friends. 1042 00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:55,480 Yeah, you don't think you heard a friend where I missed him? 1043 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,000 I wasn't aware of his girlfriend until tonight, Sir. 1044 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,520 Oh, so he told you before you killed him? 1045 00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,560 No, the entire way down there. I haven't had any to phone at 1046 00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:10,680 Walmart the entire way down there she was texting him so I 1047 00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,760 was texting what he told me to text back. 1048 00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:19,560 It's a sort of conversation between he had a girlfriend and 1049 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,320 actually you, but you was texting what he. 1050 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,800 Yes. OK, OK. 1051 00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,000 You don't think she's going to be upset? 1052 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,320 Heartbroken. I think she will be, Sir. 1053 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,120 How that make you feel? No different, Sir. 1054 00:56:44,280 --> 00:58:15,000 Yeah. No, I'm. 1055 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,400 Yeah, I quit smoking because I was. 1056 00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,360 I can't. I'm tired of doing myself. 1057 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:49,560 I was tasting stuff that. You're, I'm about to get ready 1058 00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,920 to start doing some the paperwork and you know, we've 1059 00:58:54,920 --> 00:59:01,080 been together since about 3:00 this morning and, and you've, I 1060 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,080 think you've been honest with me. 1061 00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:05,640 I think you've told me just straight up right out of the 1062 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:08,360 book on what? Happened. 1063 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:15,400 Yes, Sir. And you know, I think you, thank 1064 00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,840 you pretty much was right on cue on everything you told me. 1065 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,720 Yes, Sir, the. Only the only thing I caught you 1066 00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:27,240 in was the WD40 Cam. I hope to keep him out of it, 1067 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:33,520 Sir. And I appreciate that, but you 1068 00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:34,880 know, you've done a terrible thing tonight. 1069 00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,000 Yes, Sir. You killed a young man. 1070 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:43,360 Yes, Sir. Just for the simple fact of I 1071 00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:45,480 guess much pretty much this is safe for you. 1072 00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:51,360 Yes, Sir. And what do you think should 1073 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:55,120 happen to you? Death sentence, Sir. 1074 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:58,640 And why do you think you deserved a death sentence? 1075 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:02,160 An eye for an eye, Sir. Do you breathe an eye for an 1076 01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:02,840 eye? Yes, Sir. 1077 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:11,960 All right, we'll be getting you taken out to the jail here 1078 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:13,240 shortly, OK? Yes, Sir. 1079 01:01:03,060 --> 01:01:54,430 Yeah. Hey there. 1080 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,600 I heard one more question. Just this ain't got nothing to 1081 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,640 do with this. You know the young man that you 1082 01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,680 shot cell phone number? No, Sir. 1083 01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:59,840 And so but when he fell on the ditch and you dropped the phone, 1084 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:01,800 it fell down in the ditch by the body. 1085 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:03,680 I believe so, Sir. Yeah. 1086 01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:04,960 Can you tell what kind of phone it was? 1087 01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:09,120 An iPhone, Sir. It had a outside casing around 1088 01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,640 it, but not a too thick of one. OK. 1089 01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,520 What color was it? Black. 1090 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,200 You sit around the face down. That's when. 1091 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:17,840 You find it? Yes, Sir. 1092 01:04:12,830 --> 01:04:42,080 Yeah. What? 1093 01:05:55,440 --> 01:06:00,120 Do one more thing for me. Just a history deal. 1094 01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:01,840 Would you just fill that out for me? 1095 01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:11,120 Fishing name, average city phone numbers and stuff like that. 1096 01:06:11,120 --> 01:12:20,480 All right, Just kind of. None. 1097 01:16:13,960 --> 01:17:33,110 I. I got some questions about this 1098 01:17:33,110 --> 01:17:35,950 paperwork, about what I didn't know what to put under 1099 01:17:35,950 --> 01:17:40,560 investigator date, armed hair color, or the bottom line. 1100 01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:43,800 Oh, OK, that's not a good deal. I'll feel that. 1101 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:46,160 Well, I didn't even know if that was hair color or I thought it 1102 01:17:46,160 --> 01:17:47,680 might be hair length, hair color, both. 1103 01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:48,280 I didn't know. I don't. 1104 01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:01,520 Like the color? OK, that's good. 1105 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:04,880 Maybe we just needed your general information on name and 1106 01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:09,760 all that. Anyway, I'll be here.