1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,160 They don't want to go back there. 2 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:05,160 I never wanted to write there. He says quite a bit of stuff. 3 00:00:05,520 --> 00:00:08,200 He says he's not going to do anything funny, but he does. 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:09,920 It's always a loving relationship, it. 5 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,400 Is it's not safe? I feel like there's something 6 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,840 trapped in him so. Everything that she disclosed is 7 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:19,000 a lie. I don't know what she said. 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,360 How would I know if it's a lie if it's? 9 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,040 She always says a lie for me, but the son not gonna lie. 10 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,360 He's evil. He's the devil. 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,080 He's the devil. An 11 year old girl comes 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,920 forward with a shocking story, accusing her own father of 13 00:00:34,920 --> 00:00:37,880 unthinkable acts. He insists she's just angry 14 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:41,080 about his strict parenting. But as she describes years of 15 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,280 horrific violation dating back to kindergarten, the 16 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,400 investigation hurdles toward an unprecedented outcome that will 17 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,840 leave everyone stunned. A sexual preference is you like 18 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,360 big fat girls or you like skinny girls. 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,760 Little kids, I'm crying. The following report is based on 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,480 official police records and the footage has never been seen 21 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:04,879 before until now. On August 23rd, 2022, emergency 22 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:08,880 dispatchers in Alamogordo, NM take an alarming call from the 23 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,680 assistant principal at the local middle school. 911 where is your 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,440 emergency? We have a student that has 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:17,720 reported that she's upset because dad has just come home 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,440 and she just shared with a little boy that she has been 27 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:22,600 raping her. She was on the phone with a 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:26,400 little boy and at first was Snapchatting him, but she's 29 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:29,520 talking to the little boy right now and his mother has seen the 30 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,920 Snapchat message that she sent and on the phone saying that her 31 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,640 dad just got home and she was kind of freaking out. 32 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,440 He does not feel safe. OK, how old is she? 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:43,120 She's 11 years and 10 months. So they told the little girl 34 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:46,280 that help is on the way. Father's name is Ryan. 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Ryan Reese. When Otero County deputies head 36 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,120 out to the address, the landlord next door tells them that the 37 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,840 situation has become even more urgent. 38 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,560 What are you looking? For him, for does he have a 39 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:00,720 daughter? Yes. 40 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,280 Like a young daughter, 12/11/12, yes. 41 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:06,880 OK. And they're looking for her. 42 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:08,320 They're looking for her. Yeah. 43 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,080 She wasn't here right now. That's the. 44 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Reason why I was. Going to. 45 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:14,160 Walk over there and sit. And look for her. 46 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,320 Well, I'm, I'm here to make sure she's OK. 47 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,120 I didn't know that she ran off. The deputy finds Ryan Reese, the 48 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,000 girl's father, who's currently in the midst of searching for 49 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,360 his daughter. When was the last time you saw 50 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,880 her? This morning, this morning she 51 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:32,520 hasn't come home from school. The dog's gone. 52 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,600 The dog's gone OK. Does she have a phone? 53 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:37,000 She does. I've been trying to call her. 54 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,120 She's not answering. Did did anything happen that 55 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,480 would cause her to run away? No. 56 00:02:43,920 --> 00:02:46,160 No. Did y'all get any type of 57 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,080 argument? No, I seen her this morning 58 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:53,080 before I left for work. Gave me a hug and I told her 59 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,440 I'll see you when you get home from school. 60 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,960 OK. Have you had issues with her 61 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,840 running away in the past? No, I haven't. 62 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:02,400 Can you please inform me what's obviously you're? 63 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,400 Here, well, there were some concerns, but I need to talk to 64 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,800 her. What information I got. 65 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,160 She was here. You're going to talk to him and 66 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,240 just see what because he's acting all weird and nervous to 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,360 me when I'm talking to him. See if you're getting the same 68 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,760 by him. The deputies soon get the first 69 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,680 hint that there may have been an incident between Ryan and his 70 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:25,840 daughter after all. You said nothing out of the 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,000 normal today. Y'all didn't get any type of 72 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,240 argument. Oh, well, last night she went to 73 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,600 school with some clothes on that I wasn't aware that she went to 74 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,520 school with, and I told her that outfit's not appropriate, don't 75 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:37,600 wear that. OK? 76 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,400 I met her in the trash and I said don't wear those again. 77 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:44,240 But I mean, by the night's end, we were eating dinner. 78 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,800 There was no yelling, screaming, hitting anything like that. 79 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,360 I don't know. And you said she's never ran 80 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:50,760 away before. She hasn't. 81 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,720 OK, she hasn't. My dispatch is trying to call 82 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,320 her to see if she'll call or answer the phone. 83 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:59,680 They eventually managed to get her on the line, and the fear in 84 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,000 the young girl's voice is unmistakable. 85 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,800 We're calling to check on you and wanted to send a deputy out 86 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,360 to talk with you to make sure everything's OK. 87 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,640 We got a phone call from your friend that you're somewhere 88 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,520 else and I you're scared. OK, honey. 89 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,160 OK, listen. OK, honey. 90 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:24,440 No, I I know you're scared and there's been some, some your 91 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,360 friend has told us some things that you've got going on. 92 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:28,280 Can you tell me where you are right now? 93 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,200 OK, there's no houses around me right now, but I can go. 94 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,560 There's a silver building, OK. And I'm trying to go to my 95 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,480 friend's house. She goes, actually, I'm going to 96 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,400 try to head over to Roy's welding. 97 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,680 I can see it. And there's not stuff that very 98 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:42,600 far. Roy's Welding. 99 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:45,520 Listen, are you hurt right now? Are you injured? 100 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,040 I I'm scared. My dad was even home when I got 101 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,200 home. OK, but are you physically 102 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,480 injured that you need any medical attention right now, 103 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,440 ma'am? No, I don't need any medical 104 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:55,680 attention. OK. 105 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,040 The address I have, but that's the need. 106 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,880 OK. So you bit yourself. 107 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:02,720 Yes. Because I was stressing. 108 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,040 OK, So the reason we're checking on you today is because your 109 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,680 friend said he was talking to you and that you were real 110 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,520 scared and you'd been saying and telling him what's been going on 111 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:11,880 between what your dad's been doing. 112 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,600 I don't want to live with him anymore. 113 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,160 I don't want to go with my mom either right now. 114 00:05:16,280 --> 00:05:18,680 I want to just make sure we get you with the deputy, OK? 115 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,680 And then the rest of that, you guys we can work out later on or 116 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,480 help you make sure you get the right help, OK? 117 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Nice dog don't nice dog. Dare. 118 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,120 She's nice. She just barks. 119 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,160 OK. Do you have any water? 120 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,680 Yeah, I think I do. How long have you been walking? 121 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:41,840 Ever since all the way over there he's threatened to kill 122 00:05:41,840 --> 00:05:43,800 me. Last night he pulled my hair 123 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:46,240 pretty hard and yelled at me for no reason. 124 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:48,720 He just yelled at me for what I was wearing. 125 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,400 It was just jeans and a shirt. While it's clear that this 126 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,560 incident played a part in sparking today's fire, it's far 127 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,720 from the worst thing this young girl will share about her father 128 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:03,280 and. Then today I I finally told a 129 00:06:03,280 --> 00:06:06,240 couple people. I told three people from my 130 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,120 group when the girls didn't believe me. 131 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:11,640 And then I told one of I told my friend. 132 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,160 Then I also told my boyfriend. About things that have happened 133 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,240 in the past as as far as sexually. 134 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,360 Yes. And we, we did this, me and my 135 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,080 dad. It happened just a couple of 136 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,240 months ago. Back at the house, Ryan has 137 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,760 given an update about his daughter's whereabouts. 138 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:32,080 I just wanted to let you know that our deputy is speaking with 139 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,160 your daughter. He is doing an investigation 140 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,560 right now. So she is with Deputy Mitchell 141 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,520 who was here. Earlier and she will be with him 142 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,560 while he's doing this investigation, but he's doing 143 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:52,080 his part and being thorough. He just gets real quiet and then 144 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,440 he he just tells me and so I do because he's going to start 145 00:06:56,440 --> 00:07:01,760 yelling if I don't he gets all upset and so I do and then yeah. 146 00:07:02,280 --> 00:07:05,240 Do you know if she is sexually active at all or? 147 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,880 I know that it seems that she's a pretty young age and she 148 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:13,080 wouldn't think that but. It's hard to say what kids do at 149 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,000 school or what they do at a friend's house, but all the 150 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:18,040 friends I send her over to, they're all respectable people. 151 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,480 I would never put her in a bad situation like that. 152 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,080 It's been happening for years, all the yelling and. 153 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,040 OK, let let me call some of my friends, OK? 154 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,440 You're at home with. Her so I you know her better 155 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,760 than any of us would know her so if there's. 156 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,520 It's always a loving relation. Sure it is OK I. 157 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:40,040 Didn't want to go back there. I never wanted more. 158 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:42,840 After. OK, well, let's try to figure 159 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:44,960 this out. OK, just. 160 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:46,800 My. Dad keeps on trying to. 161 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Call me. OK, well don't answer it. 162 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,800 Just talk to my friend Deputy White and I'll talk to you. 163 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:54,080 Just one SEC. While waiting in the back seat 164 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,560 of a patrol car, the young girl appeals to a higher power. 165 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:01,840 Jehovah. Please don't have me go to the 166 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:05,640 man again. Please don't take me there. 167 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:09,440 Scary. I don't seem like a nice guy. 168 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,840 I can't be with a fine fan. I can't go with this. 169 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:26,120 I can't kill me. He's evil. 170 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:32,679 Please, please, please, please, please don't bring me back. 171 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,120 Please. The girl is taken to the Child 172 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,760 Advocacy Center, where a forensic interviewer will listen 173 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:41,159 as she recounts her traumatic story of life with her father. 174 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,720 So tell me who you've been? Who are you living with now? 175 00:08:44,159 --> 00:08:46,160 My God. Your dad and where does your mom 176 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:47,600 live? Arizona. 177 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,680 She says that her mom lost custody of her kids several 178 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,880 years ago, though she's not sure of the exact reasons why. 179 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,280 And. Then my dad found me because the 180 00:08:56,280 --> 00:09:01,760 judge asked if he wanted me and he said sure which I kind of 181 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:08,480 wish he didn't sort of be now. And now I live with my dad when 182 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:14,200 I was about to turn 5 which that's when the sexual started 183 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:17,240 having when I was 5. Before we start talking about 184 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,400 that, because I understand that you did tell somebody something 185 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,960 and that's how you got here. I told more than one person. 186 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,360 You did tell more than one person. 187 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:29,000 Who did you tell? I told my boyfriend, I told my 188 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:33,360 best friend and I told these three people that sit at my 189 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:37,800 group and my fifth period, But when the girl is going to 190 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:40,800 believe me, which that kind of made me really upset because 191 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,320 that kind of issues. Those are things that you should 192 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:46,280 be laughing about. I agree. 193 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:48,920 And did when did you tell all these people? 194 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,280 I told them all today. All. 195 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,400 Today. And what made you decide to tell 196 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,760 them today? I I can't take it anymore. 197 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:59,040 I don't, I'll be there. It's it's not a safe place for 198 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,960 me. Over the next hour, the girl 199 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,280 will share in shocking detail the horrifying secrets kept 200 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,880 inside their home. But at the police station, her 201 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,880 father tells an investigator that there's nothing whatsoever 202 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,080 to be concerned about. What kind of relationship do you 203 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:16,200 and your daughter have? I've been really close for the 204 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,040 last nine years. That's always been a real good 205 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:19,280 relationship. OK. 206 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,440 Have you had any problems with her in the past? 207 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:24,200 Well, yeah, OK. What? 208 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,560 What? Kind of problems do you have. 209 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:29,600 Typical parenting problems, things that I don't allow her to 210 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,800 do and things that I do allow her to do. 211 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,800 You know that the dressing is one of them. 212 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,160 While there will be many differences in the stories Ryan 213 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:41,960 and his daughter tell the authorities today, they do both 214 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:44,840 agree that there was a tense argument about her clothing last 215 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,440 night. You know the torn up jeans that 216 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:49,880 all the kids like to wear? Yes, Sir. 217 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,000 But they were ripped all along the crotch area. 218 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:54,400 I mean they were completely shredding. 219 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:56,680 I mean not appropriate for school at all. 220 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,040 And once I got home, my dad saw what I was wearing and he says 221 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:05,160 that outfit must have made you look really bad and make me look 222 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,760 really stupid. He also said you look like a 223 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:13,680 poor little girl when wearing that, which actually a lot of 224 00:11:13,680 --> 00:11:17,240 people complimented me for it. When I got home from work and I 225 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:20,520 seen her in the clothes that she was in, I told her to go change, 226 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:22,280 take them off and throw them in the trash. 227 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,360 And as I took the pants from her, I made sure they were 228 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,360 finished. I tore them. 229 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,480 I threw them in the trash can and she kind of started to cry. 230 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,160 She was upset with me because I. Was. 231 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:39,960 Being a father. He got really angry because she 232 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:45,440 was drunk and then he finally got he wasn't drunk anymore and 233 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,560 then he started going really angry at me because of what I 234 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:53,880 wore and then he just started yelling and yelling and he said 235 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:57,600 I would have to wear this dress, which I didn't want to. 236 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:00,600 What were you trying to get her to dress in? 237 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,640 Pants and jeans and dress, anything that didn't have ripped 238 00:12:04,680 --> 00:12:06,440 up holes in it. OK. 239 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:11,200 She's just got a full wardrobe. I mean, she, yeah, her dress is 240 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,240 completely full of perfectly fine clothes. 241 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,200 For some reason she just chooses to wear the stuff I tell her not 242 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:20,680 to. And I started crying because it 243 00:12:20,680 --> 00:12:24,480 really hurt. These guys don't cry because it 244 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,720 didn't even hurt that bad, even though it did she. 245 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,800 Tried to argue with me that the other kids wear them and then 246 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,040 it's OK and I told her no it's not. 247 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,720 OK. Yeah. 248 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:36,360 So what? What can I I I. 249 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:37,640 Yelled a little bit. Did you? 250 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,840 I did I I yelled at her. It's not a crime to yell at your 251 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:45,040 parents, at your child. You know what else can I do? 252 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,600 Can't hit them. You can't. 253 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,200 Can't do anything. They kept on saying, does your 254 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,000 teacher, does your principal wear ripped jeans? 255 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:57,960 And kept on telling him no. And he says, well, don't you 256 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,880 want to be a principal from it? And I said no, I'd want to be a 257 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,080 kid. But she says her father never 258 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,360 gave her that simple wish, and that he stole her childhood 259 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,560 innocence in more ways than one. He has threatened to take my 260 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:12,960 life away. Has he ever told you how he 261 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:14,880 would do that? He just tells you he. 262 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,880 He has a firearm. Have you ever seen it or does he 263 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,320 just tell you about it? I've seen it. 264 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,800 Is he? Supposed to have a firearm. 265 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:27,600 No ma'am, he's not allowed to have fun after the last incident 266 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:30,680 that happened. Ryan's history includes a 2012 267 00:13:30,680 --> 00:13:33,880 felony aggravated battery charge resulting from an incident 268 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,920 involving the girl's mother. So you're not supposed to be in 269 00:13:36,920 --> 00:13:39,680 possession of any firearms or ammunition, right? 270 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,160 No. Is there any firearms at the 271 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,680 house? No, there's no firearms at all 272 00:13:45,680 --> 00:13:46,800 at the. House No. 273 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,800 Is there any ammunition at the house? 274 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,560 No. These answers will come back to 275 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:54,600 haunt Ryan later, but the main focus of today's interviews 276 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,440 isn't gun possession or a power struggle over clothing. 277 00:13:57,520 --> 00:13:59,600 It's about something far more serious. 278 00:13:59,920 --> 00:14:02,800 Why do you think you're here right now being interviewed by 279 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,280 me? Well #1 because you're in a way, 280 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,360 you guys had to come find her. And I guess there was a 281 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,760 complaint filed, or not a complaint, but a welfare check. 282 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,280 I don't know. She was upset at school. 283 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,200 She wish she might have been. Obviously she was because she 284 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:21,200 was upset enough to try to run away. 285 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Is there any other reasons why you think law enforcement would 286 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,880 be talking to you right now? No. 287 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,680 No. There, there's nothing that you 288 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:34,480 think your daughter might disclose to law enforcement 289 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:40,240 that's concerning. If she does, it's no If she 290 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:41,840 does. If she does, that's what she 291 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,600 says. I would have no reason to 292 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,840 believe she would, but. You were with your friends or 293 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,960 your class today and you were telling them that something 294 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,320 happened but one of them didn't believe you and not upset you 295 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,360 tell me what you told them I told. 296 00:14:56,360 --> 00:15:02,160 Them because they called me of HORE and I said I'm not a whore. 297 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,320 And I kept on trying to tell them that and it really made me 298 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,000 upset. And I said you don't know what 299 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:13,520 goes on in my life. And then this one boy that sits 300 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,760 right next to me, he says are you OK? 301 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,160 Is there anything that goes on in your life? 302 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:22,320 But we need to be told. I said yeah maybe there's 303 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,840 something wrong that goes on with me and my dad and he says 304 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:30,040 has he raped you? And I said that's what I would 305 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,160 call it. But what might have started as a 306 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:35,800 spur of the moment cry for help has now intensified into a major 307 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,200 police investigation. She disclosed some concerning 308 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:44,880 things involving sexual things. OK. 309 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,240 Involving you. OK. 310 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:55,360 So it concerns me because I don't think my 11 year old is 311 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,840 not sexually active could describe things that she 312 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:04,400 described that happening. OK, so you you are a single dad. 313 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:06,960 OK. I, I don't know what you're 314 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,640 going through because I'm not OK. 315 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,640 And, and there are, there's things that we, we, I'm not 316 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,240 saying that there's things that we might do because we might be 317 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,280 lonely. You know your your daughter is a 318 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,360 sweet girl. OK. 319 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:28,280 But I want you to be honest, OK? Has anything ever happened 320 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,840 between you and your daughter? Sexual. 321 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,160 No, no Sir, Not like that. Not what you're explaining. 322 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,360 What do you mean by not like that? 323 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,840 There's been conversations about what sex is. 324 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,800 Does your daughter have an imagination? 325 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:46,520 I. Probably let her watch watch 326 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:48,400 movies, she said. Nothing X-rated. 327 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,400 But yeah, like she's she's grown up for her age. 328 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:56,480 She really is. Like I said, I explained to her 329 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,760 what sex is. She knows what it is. 330 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,440 She knows what male and female organs do. 331 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,160 She knows how to make a baby. She knows. 332 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:10,000 Is that because of you talking to her about her or is it her 333 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,720 watching watching on YouTube and. 334 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:15,960 Me talking to her about it. OK. 335 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:20,000 How many times would you say that it's happened? 336 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:21,720 It's happened almost every month. 337 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:25,800 Almost every month. OK, so about once a month. 338 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,800 Maybe once or twice every month. Once or twice a month. 339 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:31,680 When's the last time it happened? 340 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,480 Maybe two months ago. Do you remember what was 341 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:35,480 happening that day? Oh. 342 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,680 I know that I was watching TV, even his voice always gets quiet 343 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,160 and kind of talked softly before. 344 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,520 And what does he say? This is quite a bit of stuff, 345 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:52,320 like he'll lay down and I'm just going there watching TV, he 346 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:54,400 said. He's not going to do anything 347 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,560 funny, but he does. And at this time, are his 348 00:17:57,560 --> 00:18:00,320 clothes on or off or? Something else on? 349 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,600 They're on. And what about? 350 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,000 Yours. They're on. 351 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:06,640 So do you go over? Because I don't want him to get 352 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,960 mad, because if I don't he'll start yelling and he will be mad 353 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,920 for the rest of the day. I remember I was scared. 354 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,200 It's always the same way. The same way as getting dying 355 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,520 woman or do anything. The girls haunting story doesn't 356 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,160 sit well with the investigator talking to Ryan. 357 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:32,640 I've been trying to get why an 11 year old would be so graphic 358 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,480 and detailed in something that she says that happened. 359 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,480 I have no idea. I don't know. 360 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:42,360 I have an idea. I don't know if she's mad at me. 361 00:18:42,360 --> 00:18:45,440 I don't know if she wants to see me in trouble. 362 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,240 I I don't know. But his daughter's story is far 363 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:53,320 from over, and the details only grow more disturbing. 364 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,560 Has he ever touched any other part of your body upper? 365 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,760 What do you call that area? Beep. 366 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:03,600 Can you just call them beep? Beep OK. 367 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,160 And can you point so I can make sure we're understanding? 368 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,640 Beep OK. Got you. 369 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:11,960 So. Nothing has ever happened 370 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,200 between you and your daughter. Central. 371 00:19:14,360 --> 00:19:17,600 No, Sir. So everything that she disclosed 372 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:22,560 to a interviewer is a lie. Well, I don't know what she 373 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,640 disclosed to her or I don't know what she said. 374 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:30,160 How would I know if it's a lie? If it's I'm, I'm telling you no. 375 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,520 Sexual intercourse. No. 376 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:35,400 Sexual penetration. No, Sir. 377 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:38,680 It's never happened, ever. No. 378 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,720 With your life. No, Sir. 379 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,880 So what? What she told us is a lie. 380 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:47,280 Well, if that's what she said, then yes. 381 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Ryan's denial appears to be categorical, but his daughter 382 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,440 says that there are items in the house that can back up her 383 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,120 claims. Where did he get the condoms? 384 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,760 Walgreens. Were you there when he got the 385 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:03,160 condoms or he already had them? He bought them himself. 386 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,280 He bought them. And where does he? 387 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,000 Keep them. He keeps them on the bottom 388 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,920 drawer of his dresser. In the bottom drawer of his 389 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:14,880 dresser. Do you know what color box? 390 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,880 It is black and gold or black and gold. 391 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,040 And are they individually wrapped or how are they? 392 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,240 They're in a wrapper. They're in a wrapper. 393 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Do you know what color the wrappers are? 394 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,080 Black and gold. He also gets birth control at 395 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,560 Walgreens. He also gets birth control at 396 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Walgreens. What kind of birth control? 397 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:38,760 It's in a white and pink box. He's even stole one before 398 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,240 because I was with him and so he just bought 2 water cases and 399 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,880 just put it under one because he says like how is lady don't look 400 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:50,040 under both of them because he just said one give one one. 401 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:54,320 So he just kind of stole it because it's like $50. 402 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,080 Oh wow. And when does he give it to you? 403 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,640 A day after? The day after. 404 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:05,400 The sexual counter he also has, you know, those things that to 405 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,000 tell if you're pregnant, he also had those. 406 00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:12,320 And there's also things like you prune as Vicarner the vinegar. 407 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,600 Yeah, Vicarner, I can't say that word either. 408 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,360 It's OK. And what do you do with those? 409 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:22,840 You kind of squirt it and. And when does he make you do 410 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:24,840 that? After a sexual terror attack. 411 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,360 When Ryan's confronted about these claims, however, he 412 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,880 maintains an air of innocence. So what? 413 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,040 What kind of feminine products are inside the home? 414 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,720 Just call your pads or tampons and I think. 415 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,200 Oh. I do. 416 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:47,080 I did buy her a douche bottle because we she had a she had a 417 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,960 urinary tract infection and she just finished her medication for 418 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,280 that. She went and seen the doctor. 419 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:56,200 So she makes her doctor visits. Ryan's daughter did tell the 420 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,560 forensic interviewer that she was getting over a UTI, but that 421 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,240 explanation won't work for the other products. 422 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,440 Is there any like pregnancy tests inside the house? 423 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,280 No. No. 424 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,400 No, OK. That there, that there would be 425 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,200 anything like that. It'd be from a previous 426 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,040 girlfriend that I had staying there for a little while. 427 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,480 Have you ever bought the day after pill? 428 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,640 Yeah, I purchased them. Yeah, that was also for the same 429 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:33,240 moment that I, yeah, slept with. What was her name? 430 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Brittany. Brittany. 431 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:37,280 And what is Brittany's last name? 432 00:22:41,120 --> 00:22:43,400 It's a very promiscuous situation. 433 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,440 She's I just call her Brittany. You don't know her. 434 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,920 It's. I know I don't. 435 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:52,640 I could. I could probably find it 436 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320 somewhere. So you you never bought your 437 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,880 daughter a pregnancy test before it? 438 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:03,800 Wouldn't have been for her, no. You never bought the the the day 439 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,600 after pill for your daughter. Wouldn't have been for her or no 440 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,160 Sir. They says understand the 441 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:15,440 severity of this. OK, Is there a reason why you're 442 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,440 sweating as bad as you are right now? 443 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,880 I. Didn't realize it was. 444 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,400 The deputy's suspicions may be raised, but they're likely to 445 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,880 grow more serious when it's revealed that this isn't the 446 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:30,800 first time Ryan's daughter has made these allegations. 447 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,440 Let's talk about last time. Remind me why you came in last 448 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,560 time? I told one of my friends 449 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,280 something. What did you tell your friend 450 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,760 that time? I said that my dad had a a 451 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:49,080 concert with me sexual OK. And that was when you were in 452 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,360 4th grade. Oh, so you were 10? 453 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,360 Oh, it happened like. You're nice that time. 454 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:58,360 Did you tell me something happened? 455 00:23:58,360 --> 00:24:00,480 Tell me. Kind of, no? 456 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,800 I'm like I was too. Scared you lied and OK, so you 457 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,360 told me. That I told you that it didn't 458 00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:08,280 happen you. Told me it didn't happen. 459 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,280 That forensic interview from 15 months earlier was also 460 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,800 recorded, and there's a dramatic contrast between that 461 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,840 conversation and today's. Would you? 462 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,560 Agree with me. That there are places on your 463 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,680 body that no one else should touch. 464 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,920 Yes. And if anyone else did touch 465 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,440 them, who would you tell? I would tell my dad he would 466 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,800 play the. Dad and what do you think he 467 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:36,760 would do? He would probably go after them 468 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,920 and like never touch my daughter again because she's really 469 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,920 concerned about my safety. But he's a good guy. 470 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,640 He doesn't hurt anybody, he says. 471 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,000 He's just him. He's just him. 472 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:56,040 I can tell you're like really, really nervous and on the urge 473 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,040 of life crying. So tell me what you're worried. 474 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:03,040 About well, I'm kind of worried if my dad gets in trouble. 475 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:08,560 I love him a lot, I know. You do, but I don't want you to 476 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,440 worry about them. So right now you're not worried 477 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,720 about anything except for dad going back to jail. 478 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,000 And who told you he could go back to jail? 479 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,400 No, buddy, but I just don't want him to go to jail. 480 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,600 He's like, I just don't want to go to jail or anything. 481 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,480 People do that. Yeah, he says he doesn't want to 482 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,960 go to jail again, and I said I'll protect him no matter what. 483 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,640 Now, more than a year later, Ryan's daughter has clearly had 484 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,720 a change of heart. I think he does belong in jail. 485 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,880 What he's doing is all right. Tell me what? 486 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,600 Happened after you left here that day and you went home. 487 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,040 Did the police or anybody talk to him? 488 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,560 He was, he was upset on me, but he was glad that I lie. 489 00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:58,800 He always says lie for me, but this time this is important. 490 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,040 He's not a safe man. Unsurprisingly, Ryan also 491 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,120 remembers the previous investigation. 492 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:11,280 Has she ever made any type of allegations in the past before? 493 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:16,120 There was a report by CYFD, and this has been over a year ago, 494 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,400 about abuse. But the investigators came in, 495 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,440 they looked at the house, they talked to her. 496 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:23,720 They did the same thing. They interviewed her for several 497 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:26,320 hours. They said they found absolutely 498 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,200 nothing to him and that was dropped. 499 00:26:29,360 --> 00:26:31,240 They didn't even make a return visit. 500 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,280 It remains to be seen if the current investigation will go 501 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,240 away so easily, and there's certainly at least one person 502 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,840 hoping that it doesn't. I don't even care if I have to 503 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,200 get adopted. It's just not a safe place for 504 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,720 me. I really want to adoption, 505 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,080 adoption of the way because I that's just not a safe place for 506 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,960 me because I feel like if I go back there, he will kill me. 507 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:57,080 He won't take my life and the cops that I might have to go 508 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:00,040 live there. So I might have to go back but 509 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,360 don't love to and. You don't want to because you 510 00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:04,840 don't feel safe. You think he's going to kill 511 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,680 you? I just feel like it's not safe. 512 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,800 I feel like there's something trapped in him. 513 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,520 Think the devil. He's not a safe man. 514 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,920 I can't believe that because I've made her serve her clothes 515 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,720 away, all this has become of it. And I don't know what she's told 516 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,480 the investigators or why she'd even have a reason to do that, 517 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,680 but I'm a little bit beside myself. 518 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:31,560 I never want to go back home and they won't come there. 519 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,120 I will hear a few times away all my stuff. 520 00:27:34,120 --> 00:27:36,880 I'm not coming there. Even if they take me back there, 521 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,720 I'm just going to find a way. I'm just going to leave again. 522 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,720 She's taken into CYFD custody as a search warrant is written for 523 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:47,400 Ryan's DNA and the house itself. Unfortunately, the search will 524 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,120 be made more difficult by the fact that Ryan accidentally 525 00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:52,920 locked his keys inside. Say what? 526 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,600 Somebody might be climbing through. 527 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:57,600 That window it's. There. 528 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,240 Huh. You can clear your. 529 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,160 House After gaining access, the deputies know exactly what to 530 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,800 look for. So condoms that are black and 531 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,880 gold douche from what I pregnancy she was. 532 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,440 Saying douche and pregnancy test from the bathroom. 533 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,480 Yeah, and then that was it. Because you don't. 534 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,520 He only bought the pills when he needed it and then the gown and 535 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:29,200 ammo. Did you take part of that? 536 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,400 I just photographed overall. If. 537 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,320 You find something that you specifically want, well, just 538 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,360 take a picture of it. I don't really mean a clock. 539 00:28:37,360 --> 00:28:40,800 To really suspicious straight, there would be nothing of 540 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,040 anything that she described. If that's hit their regular 541 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,000 ritual when he does crap like that and it's all gone. 542 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:52,640 If we can't find the crap it's either she's lying or he put it 543 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,560 in the car. So any other things I. 544 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,560 Noticed. The little trash can be 545 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:02,520 something fun. The empty trash isn't evidence, 546 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,120 but it does harken back to something Ryan's daughter said 547 00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:08,240 in her interview when discussing how he would dispose of the used 548 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400 condoms. He always puts her on the bottom 549 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,520 of the trash can and so nobody finds it. 550 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:19,400 And then once we throw away trash, we always take it across 551 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,280 the road or in Mesa Verde Village in one of the 552 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,400 announcements. While the investigators don't 553 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,160 find much in the home to corroborate her story, they do 554 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:32,480 find some items of interest. We need to find some ammo and a 555 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,480 gun case and. Everything else in that that 556 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,160 shop. Yeah, that's old. 557 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:41,560 That's old. That's when I used to have 558 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,600 firearms, when I was allowed to have them. 559 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,280 That's what was leftover. It was leftover. 560 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,720 Yeah, it's. The police conclude the search 561 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,560 suspicious that there's no gun to go with the ammunition they 562 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,800 found. The shadow of that missing gun 563 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,760 looms overhead when they get a call from Ryan's landlord two 564 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,400 days later saying he's suddenly vanished. 565 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:07,840 He was here. 2 days ago and he doesn't show up anymore. 566 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,720 The place was open. And lost, so there's nobody 567 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:16,600 inside the house. Everything is there, there's 568 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,600 nothing. Being taken so but these are his 569 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,640 only vehicles, right? Yes, check. 570 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:23,360 In just a. Minute, OK. 571 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:24,760 And the door is. Open. 572 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:29,400 You can walk in Sheriff's Office 1326. 573 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,960 Call that phone number one more time. 574 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:42,920 I don't know what happened. To you OK. 575 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,160 So I don't know. Many years of years or I don't 576 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,160 know. OK, just be it do. 577 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:54,560 You think something something's happened to him, let's step back 578 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,840 out. But he does have privacy with 579 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:08,480 me. 1326 you can 22 it. The phone's here. 580 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,200 The deputy searched the property, eventually coming to a 581 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:19,720 peculiar discovery. 1326 I have boot impressions over here S 582 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:24,440 well northwest of the pump. I think it stops right there, 583 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,720 right? Because there's there's shoe 584 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,200 there's shoe impressions going this way and the shoe 585 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,000 impressions going this way. So it looks like he wondered if 586 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,200 that's where the gun was. Ryan's whereabouts don't remain 587 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,880 a mystery for long. A deputy catches up to him at 588 00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,120 his dad's house later that day. Would you be willing to go to 589 00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,760 the Sheriff's Office and do another interview with me? 590 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,640 You. Know I've been contacting now. 591 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,200 You know, I've already contacted. 592 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,040 The public defender's office. I've talked to Cy. 593 00:31:58,120 --> 00:31:59,240 FDE. OK. 594 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,840 The public defender is telling me not to answer any more 595 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,320 questions without them present. OK. 596 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:09,440 That's what they're telling you. You just seem, you seem really 597 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,000 nervous to me. Distraught. 598 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,800 Distraught. Yeah, you know. 599 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,360 This whole thing is very serious. 600 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,720 I understand the allegations of what's been said and what's been 601 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,440 done something like this if the. Charges are brought up on me. 602 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,120 You know, the DA decides to do that. 603 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,120 I don't ever have a chance of getting out of prison, you know, 604 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,760 just as well as I do, so it's kind of got me nervous. 605 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,720 I want you to be honest because there's some things I found out 606 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,760 today that you're not telling me the truth on. 607 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:42,240 Investigators have spoken to employees at the welding company 608 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Ryan works for, and one of them claims that when Ryan came by 609 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,280 the shop to explain what was happening, he admitted that he'd 610 00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,040 thrown his pistol in the bushes before the cops searched the 611 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,320 house. Oh, Sir, I'm not guilty of 612 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,720 everything that's on that paper. And I didn't say you are, but 613 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,320 you know, and I know that you're not being completely honest 614 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,120 about this whole case. I'm not talking about the sexual 615 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,880 allegations, but some of the other stuff. 616 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,080 You're not telling me the. Truth at this time. 617 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,840 I'd I'd rather not talk. I'd. 618 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:12,920 Rather not. Please. 619 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,440 Yep. There's little movement in the 620 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,120 investigation. For the next 6 months, Ryan 621 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,440 remains free with no charges filed. 622 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,720 Meanwhile, his daughter has gone to live with her mom in Arizona. 623 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,840 But in February of the following year, a new detective on the 624 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,160 case decides to have a talk with Ryan's father, who turns out to 625 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,520 have something interesting to share from the girl at the 626 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,600 center of this painful ordeal. And she wrote him a letter that 627 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,760 was. Just heartfelt. 628 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,160 How do you know? Well, because. 629 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,560 She mailed. And you want me to get? 630 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,000 The ladder, sure. So I'll read it aloud. 631 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,240 It says I miss you very much and I pray that you are OK. 632 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,680 Things have been fine. And I thank you so much for the 633 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,000 bracelet. I wear it every day and I read 634 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,640 the card you gave me every day and it makes me miss you more. 635 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,160 And when I'm 14 I promise I'll come see you. 636 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,000 Really now all I feel is guilty and sad and sometimes happy 637 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,440 because you say it's not my fault, but it is my fault. 638 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:17,840 Now reading this letter it to me, it only brings it further in 639 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,480 the sense that your daughter or I'm sorry your granddaughter had 640 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,239 a close relationship with her father. 641 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,440 During the interview that a forensic interviewer performed 642 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:32,719 with, she went into graphic, vivid detail of what she and her 643 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,520 father used to do. And it was never disclosed in a 644 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,960 way that where it was a brutal rape, OK. 645 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,040 It was always more in the sense of two people engaging in a 646 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:49,480 consensual relationship, in a consensual sexual relationship. 647 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,400 And that is that what you think's happening? 648 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,120 That's what I believe happened, yes. 649 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,120 Ryan's father insists that there are potentially other 650 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,520 explanations, such as her watching adult videos online and 651 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,000 talking to bad influences, but the detective isn't buying it. 652 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,800 She knows specific details about condoms, as you know, in 653 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,600 pornography. No condoms are used in 654 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,760 pornography. OK, She knows about birth 655 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,160 control. What is it? 656 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:19,760 Why does a child, let me again, if say she's getting influence 657 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,440 from other people or say she's watching for pornography? 658 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:26,680 A child should not know the details about birth control 659 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,960 unless she's taking birth control that is being provided 660 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,680 to her by an adult. There's more the morning after 661 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,120 pill. She even described the packaging 662 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,120 of the morning after pill that you have to get it from a 663 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,080 pharmacy. She even gave a rough estimate 664 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,680 of how much the morning after pill cost. 665 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,400 Ryan is not going to go through these steps. 666 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:56,240 If say it was, it was not happy. Why is he going through this 667 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,640 step, these steps? Because he doesn't want to get 668 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:00,640 caught. Because he loves his daughter. 669 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,120 Because he doesn't want her to end up pregnant. 670 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:04,520 My. Daughter, are you kidding her? 671 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:11,520 I know this is very difficult to take in, but this is what what 672 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,440 the reality of of of of where this case is right now. 673 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,160 The detective assures him, however, that he didn't just 674 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,400 come over to spoil his day. He wants his help to close the 675 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:21,720 case. I've. 676 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:27,240 Worked over 100 cases involving stuff like this and I've never 677 00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:28,920 seen a more compelling interview. 678 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,840 If that. Did if all this did happen? 679 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,040 Well then. Exactly. 680 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,600 Then that's always been my thought. 681 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:40,200 A child molester needs castrated and. 682 00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,440 What you know. And you know what? 683 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:44,520 That's how I know that you're a good man. 684 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,120 We live in such society that there are certain governmental 685 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:53,160 big waitings and big shots that are trying to decriminalize 686 00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,640 saying that, oh, pedophilia isn't a crime, it's a sexual 687 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120 preference. It's a sexual orientation. 688 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,600 No, a sexual orientation is you like dudes or you like women. 689 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,240 A sexual preference is you like big fat girls or you like skinny 690 00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:08,360 girls. Like little kids? 691 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,680 Little kids, that's all. That's that's. 692 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:14,080 Not a crime, that's a punishable. 693 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,640 I don't know your son, obviously he's your son. 694 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,640 If I believe. I believe if anybody can 695 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,360 convince him to come forward and come clean and get the help that 696 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,240 he needs, who better do that than you? 697 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,120 Well, I'll be damn sure having a real good. 698 00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,120 Talk with him? Yeah, this opens up a whole 699 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,480 different conversation with him. Maybe all these little girl 700 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,920 needs is for her dad to man up and be like, yeah, I did and 701 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,680 take responsibility and ownership for what he did. 702 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,760 Unfortunately, when the detective returns a week later, 703 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,240 he learns that things didn't play out that way. 704 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,080 So do you have a conversation with your son? 705 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,320 I did. Yeah, How'd that go? 706 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,840 It went. Good, I said that you come up 707 00:37:58,840 --> 00:37:59,400 said. That. 708 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:05,680 He admit and he's that I had heard that he had about admit. 709 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,480 Something there? There's nothing to admit, Sir. 710 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,800 I know you're an expert in your. Field and you're very good at 711 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,320 what you do, but I. Think you got the wrong guy. 712 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,400 All right, OK, I'll, I'll reach out to him and then we'll just 713 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,640 kind of go from. There, Ryan agrees to come in 714 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,640 for another interview, giving the detective what may be his 715 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:27,560 last chance at finding the truth. 716 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,840 And, and right now I understand that you do not have an actual 717 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,640 attorney representing you. Is that correct? 718 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,000 No. OK, Gerardo. 719 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:35,520 All right. And what's you know, what's? 720 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,200 So what's that about that? With that. 721 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:40,920 Is it the only money that I actually have for a paid 722 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,960 attorney? Is it my daughter's savings 723 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,120 account? OK, OK now. 724 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,280 Get her the car when she's 60. And you know what, man? 725 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,440 Like I said, I, I, I don't know much about you. 726 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,560 I know you know about this case. And from what I gather, from 727 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,200 what I can see, I. Think you're really there? 728 00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,760 But while that compliment may be enough to keep Ryan seated 729 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,840 through questions about his ex-wife, it's not quite enough 730 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,400 to get to the subject of his daughter's allegations. 731 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,280 Do you have any other kids with somebody else? 732 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,480 Outside of you, not that. I can prove their mind. 733 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,360 That's that's where I'm going to stop answering questions. 734 00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,760 For that, yeah. You know that's. 735 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,080 You don't want to answer any more questions. 736 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,120 Or about that specifically. Just just all together, but. 737 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:24,840 OK. All right. 738 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,440 Well, I appreciate you coming in, you know. 739 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,640 For Resolve, after all, it's at least at least a chance to get a 740 00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:34,720 call and talk to me. I don't think it's right that I 741 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:36,880 can't always get a phone call through to her. 742 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,920 The case does soon come to a resolution, though perhaps not 743 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,840 the one he was hoping for. After being indicted in August 744 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,240 2023, Ryan faced trial in February 2025 where a jury found 745 00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:53,640 him guilty of 18 counts of criminal sexual penetration in 746 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:57,840 the first degree, 7 counts of criminal sexual contact and six 747 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:02,160 counts of incest, all of which involved a victim under 18 years 748 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,480 of age. I don't think I'm going to get 749 00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:10,000 anything fair out of this prosecuted to the false extent. 750 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:16,120 In April 2025, the judge imposed a 391 year sentence, the longest 751 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,920 in the history of New Mexico's 12th Judicial District. 752 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,600 Because he must serve at least 85% of that sentence, 40 year 753 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,440 old Ryan Reese won't be eligible for parole until the year 2357. 754 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,520 He's appealing his conviction while awaiting trial on a final 755 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,360 charge of possession of a firearm by a felon. 756 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,880 If you'd like to see select new videos early and help us keep 757 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,680 uncovering case files that rarely come to light, you'll 758 00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,160 find extra footage and unseen details on our Patreon channel. 759 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:46,520 Memberships here on YouTube also include early access to select 760 00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:47,400 new videos.