There you go. Oh my God, every week you think
I'd get better at this. Every freaking week I stress
myself out on the wire. On the wire.
Something's not working. Something's just messed up.
Guys get organised. No, guys can't do it because
you're just a piece of shit. Tell me it's working.
Tell me it's. Working, Oh my God, Oh my God,
we are live. We are live.
What did I touch that?
Oh my days we are figuring things out as things break in
front of us. How are you doing cha?
We are going to have a guest on soon in a bit as well.
But as we do figure out all my hairs messed up bro, my face
messed up bro. Saturday.
What a beautiful Saturday, the sun shining.
Finally, the UK, as we finally get a bit of vitamin D, as we
fight off the depression this weather brings upon us, we
finally get some respite and it alleviates our mood, elevates it
to another level. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's up, people? It's good to good to see you
guys. It's been emotional already.
Shout out to everyone over the chat.
It's been an interesting week. Interesting week.
Random things, mutterings going on, weird you turns from whom?
We're going to talk about it and then some.
Let me get my screen. I'll let the chat up over there.
What are you saying? Let me shout out to everyone.
Captain Chance first. In there first in there with the
membership. He's been out in the garden.
What are you doing there? A little bit.
A little bit of gardening. Yeah, a little bit of hay fever.
Just James. Good to see you, bro.
He ranks my G. What are you saying?
Happy Saturday, man. Paulie.
Paulie ABBA. I installed random.
It's McLeod. We need to play some D together.
Marathon man. Fans are really who may be
joining us soon. The 5th Horseman episode, third
side Scorpio, I think I've got everyone Multi Pandora, more
people. Thank you.
I'm sorry I haven't missed out your name as a people come Ian,
as we talk about what's going on in the space.
It's been an interesting week. Big game releases.
It's been a If you're a gaming fan and you like video games and
you like to be positive about video games, it's a good week.
Even if you want to be negative about video games, it's still a
good week because we've got some big, big releases this week and
some indie releases. Small in budget but big at heart
replaced. Let me get my pen and paper
handy to do your bloody time stuff.
I don't have someone screaming 5 microseconds off the show.
And where's the flicking time stamped you?
How long it takes? The title of this toy stream is
big. Xbox changes are inbound,
incoming. What are those changes?
It's going to be interesting. It's going to be interesting to
see. Let me know if the sound levels
are too high, too low, that you know.
I like the tunage in here. I love the tunage.
Tunage in the punage. Oh yeah, guys, why were you so
late? Why did you stop the show 15
minutes late? It's because I was cycling
through some new tunes to add to this playlist.
The same tunes that people complain about.
I don't want to. Hear music.
I want to hear the sound of your squeaky birds and the same
topic. Over and over again.
That's not going to happen, bro. It's not going to happen, bro.
Call D back. She's crying.
Why? He's always crying.
Not high enough. That's not high enough.
The tunes. Oh, audio levels.
No mind. What?
What?
What, What?
What? Camera's blocked.
Oh, shit. Yeah, I never realised.
Thank you. Thank you, Episode 30, for
letting me know. For letting me know this.
Ignore disorganised mess that I am.
I'm going to get into it right first order of the day.
Can't even fucking see the audio levels on this because the
freaking massive light that stares in my face and blinds me
every time I do the show is blocking the audio levels.
Let me move this fat freaking 50 whatever inch screen still
selectively be blocked. There we go.
Move the topics there safe. Not enough jellies.
Are these new tunes on the Spotify playlist?
No, Eldrick. The Spotify playlist is is
opening and I have been adding some dankness to that sounds
I've been listening to to the gym.
I was like, oh, there's going to be added to nightwave radio
chat. I gotta, I gotta gotta plug in
nightwave radio. You have to listen to nightwave
radio. Haven't updated in a couple of
weeks. There's still 177 tracks now.
Oh, she and I will show you. Can I show you?
Yes, I can. Yes, I can.
That's nightwave radio. Don't worry about my face.
It's there. Nightwave radio.
Check out Spotify. We've got some sick tunes in
there. I wish I could play it to you,
but YouTube's weird like that. I'm also working on some.
I've been saying I've been working on a video, but I've
been working on a wicked video trying something new.
Time to bring back a character that was part of the whole
little rebrand that I haven't really done anything on and it's
it's a good time. I'm so sorry.
Chat for the video. The last video was like 3 months
ago and it's always a case of what do I do?
Do I just shit out of video for the algorithm and I can't do it?
I really can't do it. Why do I have so much money on
my table? Bro, don't ask me why we reach
up in here. Don't ask me why that's there.
Yeah, I'm working on a really good video.
I think you'll really like it. The edits on that are nightmare,
but it's also very different. It's also different because I
don't want to be a lazy piece of shit in this space.
I want to do something different.
A little bit of me on camera, a little bit of my cinematic
photography. Excuse me.
Wait. Shit out of video.
Explosive video. Zorka Gaming knows about my
explosive videos, bro. Does the sound need to be up?
My mobile phone is halfway up. I do listen to it while I'm in
the van. I need some new tunes.
Oh, Eldrick, you legend. I will get you some sick tunes.
I'll update it tonight. Oh yeah, I'll update it tonight.
But I always like to have a little I'll reel to accompany
the playlist, but I will do it tonight.
I've got so much to do. That Spotify stream is awesome.
Thank you. Episode 30.
I love it, love it, love it. Chuck a pony hunter vid out with
a pony hunter himself. We was I was trying to link up
with safe this weekend, but he was a bit busy to do a really
good pony hunter that we've had in the works for a while.
So that don't worry, Pony Hunter is going to come back.
Just guys, give me an update if the music is a bit too loud.
I know that everyone has a different opinions on the music.
Some people just the existence of it.
Well, it's too loud, but it just gets me in the mode right now
that we've got the pleasantries out of the way, Let's talk about
a game that I really like and I'll be looking forward to and
as I play today, because it's been a busiest week and the
world doesn't want me to do anything but just work.
And it's a game called It's a nice little game.
You know what it's called? It's called bloody, it's called
replaced, and it's out right now.
And here we go. I'll pick the right button.
They just started playing it today.
It's got decent reviews. Well, actually has it.
I don't know what this matter is like, but people who I talked to
said that they enjoyed it and I'm just, I'm just, I want to
check it right now on my phone. What's the replacement?
It doesn't matter, boy. It does matter because it's 7636
reviews, so decent amount of reviews.
It's not even exactly that high, but I really hope the
developers, well, I either way, I hope what the developers do
well, irrespective of the critical reception.
But at the same time, with Indies, you've got to be a
little bit naturally, you're like, alright, smaller team,
we've got to, you've got to give them a little bit more love.
But that doesn't mean that they escape the critical lens.
And I've been really enjoying it.
The game is actually really beautiful.
I know it like pixel art isn't for everyone, but look at it,
look at this shit. It's just really nice
soundtrack. The even the combat, it's just a
simple game. I feel like the way the premise
of the game was, there's almost a desire that, you know, the
visuals are so strong. I feel like they don't match up
sometimes with the scope. Like I, I felt like, well, and I
know this sounds weird, but I felt like maybe something deeper
like Disco Elysium mixed with this combat would have been
epic. But that that's like a, because
that's the, so that's how strong the strength of the visuals are.
But at the same time, you know that would alienate a lot of
people because Disco Elysium is certainly very niche.
So be playing replace and it's it's a good game, and I wonder
if any of you guys have played it Xbox first yes, this is this
is one of those rare games that's not on PlayStation, but
it's on Xbox and PC. I'm sure it'll land on
PlayStation eventually, but it's a really good game, really fun
game. Oh, have I done here?
Oh shit, don't play showing my steam.
Why did my steam page come up? That's weird and Steam is the
best. Are you playing it on Steam?
This is the only game I've actually this is the only game
I'm playing. I'm at to play on the Xbox app
Atrocious. Atrocious.
I didn't realise I had my game pass sub running for the last
six months because I wanted to test something out and then I
was like fuck, I've paid game pass for no reason.
So can I transfer the saves to the PC version and then play on
Steam? Because I'm going to buy on
Steam. Anyone need to cancel game pass?
I swear to using the freaking Xbox app.
It was rage inducing. Good luck Xbox when you're
trying to do this whole PC hybrid thing because I cannot
and Steam is so nice for me. Steam is beautiful.
Steam is so much more. It's simplistic blah blah blah.
I don't give a shit. I love the minimal it just works
for me. I hate Xbox install.
I hate Xbox install yeah, so the sad game pass only I'm like
fucks I've had game pass all this time I've I was paying for
it the PC version only and I need to cancel it as you under
you need to understand. I spend now over like six £700 a
month on just subscriptions and this one just managed to load
itself through. I need to cancel that, but I
will get honesty Gaz with the Subs man a lot You probably have
like 2K worth of well six £700 now because I went for the
expensive Claude one, the pro version and that's like Nike
quid or something. I don't know what this I'm a
slut when it comes to subscriptions just terrible for
it and I I need to manage my affairs.
I need help. Please help me, help me.
I need an intervention. Yeah, but yeah, this is on Game
Pass. So the player is sick, is a is a
meme. It's a Dang chime.
It's a schlag cream. The combat's really good as
well. And this I think I have got a
footage of some combat. Well, Oh my God, What have I
done here? Yeah, it's just, it's just a
really good game. So do check it out.
Do check it out. It's a really good game.
And I think it's worth, if it's on, if it's on Game Pass, try it
out. That's a good thing about Game
Pass. You you get to just try it out.
And the problem is it has been absolutely merked when it comes
to the value proposition of it owing to the price hike, which
is an excellent segue to the next top pack.
Yeah, yeah. Xbox Game Pass, is it the best
value in gaming? Remember that line?
It's almost expired now, you don't hear it anymore.
The best value in gaming. Everyone to say the.
Best value and I and it was. It was the best value in gaming
by far, by far. Nothing came close.
The game passed. Nothing came close.
And remarkably, remarkably candid, Asha Sharma comes back
and says it's too expensive. That is something that we all
knew. But but you know what does that
mean? It means Xbox Game Pass was
making after that price hike. You remember the freaking
website to cancel the sub crash? It was ridiculous.
I will show you some tweets from peoples that were talking about
it but really it's quite indicative of just how bad they
must have been bleeding Subs. I'm telling you right now
they're not announcing their numbers but they must have lost
a shit tonne of Subs after that price hike.
It became from best value in gaming to not nearly necessary
at this point and that is a massive, massive misstep from
Microsoft who I don't know what they were thinking and Ashley
Sharma acknowledges that by saying it's too expensive is is
basically saying we got mugged. I reckon they lost about fuck.
How many How many Subs do you think they lost?
How many millions of subscribers do you think they lost?
I think they lost shit tonne of subscribers.
Shit tonne of subscribers. Asha's had a good start.
We'll see. I mean, look, I'll be honest
with you, I don't want to pour cold water over Asha Sharma's
early begins. How much you can do here.
But so far she's made the right moves and she said it in the
right way. But I'm just reminded of the
mistakes we all made by, I mean, initially the Xbox execs, when
the Xbox, when Phil Spence had a lot more autonomy, he was saying
the right things, that he was pacified people, he brought
backwards compatibility back. And he was saying, and he did
invest in first party studios. Remember that.
Don't let the the the stables hijack the narrative about that.
That communication was a point where that was backed up.
The bark was backed up by some sort of bite.
And then afterwards the fangs start to get worn down and then
they started parroting the lines of the execs.
Then, then, then then it became a really just a bit, a bit of a
shit show, I'm not going to lie. Check out our good friend Neo
Games Spark. He says almost.
After almost six years, I cancelled my Game Pass
membership once it hit $30.00 a month. $30.00 a month is a lot.
It is a lot. With so much entertainment
competing for my time, I didn't need another hefty subservice
just sitting there milking my bank account.
But if they revamped the tears, I may reconsider.
And yeah, this is where Asha Sharma says that it's become too
expensive. And in an internal memo, she
said she wants better value equation.
But what does that actually mean Chat, What does that actually
mean? There've been rumours that
suggest abound about what that means.
And I think the reality is we're about to see Call of Duty leave
the game pass some. I don't think I think that one I
mean, this is well, it's still an egg on their face removing
Call of Duty. But at the same time, does it?
Would you rather they let me do a poll?
Let me do a poll. But I know what the answer's
going to be. Pragmata we'll talk about in a
bit. Yeah, man, Luke reached out to
me and says you need to check out Pragmata with path tracing
is insane. And we need to talk about the
PlayStation guys who are really going hard on the PSSR thing and
compete thinking that they that this console competes with PC is
so stupid. I don't know what they're doing.
It's so embarrassing. And then there's some a lot of
the PC guys are arguing toe to toe with them like why, why why
are you doing that? Makes no sense.
Anyway, with Game Pass. What was I going to say?
Should X girl XGP Game Pass get rid of Cod for a cheaper price?
That's a weird, weird, badly worded Paul, as always.
But let's see. I don't think there's much
goodwill now with Call. Call of Duty is the big
mainstream title. And yes, you know, I don't think
that it's brought in that many numbers.
I still think Xbox Game Passes marketing has been atrocious.
Like for a service that's that's supposed to be so disruptive.
I never done anything in terms of even the marketing people
still out there, the filthy casuals still don't know.
I have to say, do you have game pass or what's that?
They just think it's like that, oh, Xbox Gold paid to play
online to play online. Just say because who plays COD
now? I remember a while ago when I
was on Fonz's show and everyone was coming at me and I said for
one reason. Do you think Call of Duty will
be a juggernaut forever? There's No title like that that
will stay a juggernaut forever. And this IP has been an
Activision have the same hubris when it came to like their
guitar heroes and other multiple other titles.
Call of Duty is the same and they need to be under pressure
anyway. But I don't think like at the
cost of the the price. Call of Duty will most likely be
removed from Game Pass. Do it, but make it cheaper.
And also more fundamentally this is the tier I would be
interested in consciously sub to, not unconsciously
unknowingly sub to make a first party only game past year that's
much cheaper. Like a really really good value
proposition. Say it's like we have £9 or £10
or whatever. I don't even know what the
current price is, but that kind of cheaper price.
That price point for the sub when we get a lot more people, a
lot more people danked danked on on that.
I think Call of Duty has been a juggernaut for a decades.
More like Pokémon. It's dog water shit games but
still sell incredibly well. Jerry's out for the next one.
Call of Duty always goes through their cycle man.
So a lot of people like Game Pass is the reason why the
qualities dwindled. I'm like that's not the reason
why quality And Call of Duty has been doing this cycle for ages.
For decades. You've seen it from the Ghosts
to Freaky and what Vanguard to it always happens.
Multiple studios are working on Call of Duty.
Sometimes they just shit it out, do the bare minimum, then they
realise, oh we need to go back to our core and our strengths
and then they've reckoned the team.
You can tell when the team actually goes out their way to
spend some time to think about how to make it better.
But I I'll be honest with you, they really need to seriously
reconsider the whole thing. Problem is they don't really
have that much big competition other than other shooters in
this space. Everyone's hoping Battlefield
would be the one that would make the dank memes, but Battlefield
hasn't been. It had a had a really strong
start and it looked really positive, but the long term
proposition of it just dwindled. And it's really sad.
It's because we needed and it's a good game.
It's a good game, but I haven't gone back to it for a while.
And and actually thanks to Naruto for sure reminding me to
watch this today. Battlefield has a really good
road map. Now they've released a video a
couple of days ago about what they're planning to do with it
and what they the kind of content that people have been
asking for. So they've been really
receptive, you know, listening in to the the reception on, on,
on on this. I'll try and skip the video.
So you're going to have a look at it.
But basically we want a lot more see, you know, the water maps,
Cairo bazaar, they basically revamp the reject the old map
made it sick and like they're they're catering for everything.
You've got your close, you know, close quarters maps, and you've
also got your large maps. I think the big update for me is
the you'll see it here. This this the season 4 map,
which comes starts in July. And I don't know like the time
is like ticking for battlefield man, but I can see there's
having a resurgence when this big map comes out.
You get naval warfare coming back again, which is brilliant
and they've got some classic maps.
I forgot the name of the map, the the classic one.
This is a new one called Suru Reef.
But they've also done a rejig of the a classic map and we needed
more space in here as well. Look at that.
Oh shit, Wake Island. That's it.
Thank you. Wake Island is coming back This
is a classic classic battlefield map.
So whether or not this will actually make some memes I don't
know, but battlefield desperately needs the player
numbers. I actually should check Let me
check what battlefield steam charts?
What do they say? It's interesting how this
generation steam charts have become really kind of used a lot
to determine what, how a game is doing.
And you know, it speaks to 1 the prevalence and the strength of
PC gaming. Basically how, how, how, how big
it is, how mainstream it is. And you know this, what can you
say? I mean, look at the charts at
the moment it's got 54,000, which is not a bad number, not a
bad number. I mean, that's now like, I mean,
a lot of people are talking about the death of marathon and
I, I really don't want that game to die.
And I, I, that's one game I nervously look at the player
numbers for. And so at 50,000, that's, you
know, that's not bad. Well, but it's not Call of Duty
numbers, I'll be honest with you, but they mean you look at
this and marathons at 22,000 and 24 hour people's at 25,000.
It's hovering around there and you know that this is most
likely going to have a stronger player support on PC.
I'm nervous about marathon. It's going to be one of those
games that I don't want to fail. I really don't want to fail.
It reminds me of what I wanted with Titanfall 2.
And it was a painful exercise because you start to when you're
the player queues. And I played a lot of Titanfall
one and two and the, the, the, the games got longer to find,
the matchmaking was longer. And I was like, Oh no, I didn't
save things happening with marathon.
I'm like, no, no please. Multiplayer space is so freaking
competitive. You can build a good game and
it's still not enough man. You have to capture the
zeitgeist at the right time in the right place.
Brev, what's up hunty? You're missing Chelsea.
I don't watch football. Football.
This is a tune. Marathon needs a big update.
If it's done right, it may bring back beyond life.
Yes, Marathon definitely needs a big update man.
To save itself. But yeah, ultimately Game pass
and go back to Game pass. It also needs an update to save
itself. I think it's a lot more
critical. I think a lot of people would be
surprised, not like surprised but shocked at the number of
Subs it most likely have bled as a result.
They're still committed to Game Pass.
She's saying it's very expensive.
A lot of people are saying they were just going to crater it and
the whole thing about but is it sustainable?
They're still backing it. They're still backing it.
They made big missteps when it comes to the service, big
missteps in terms of how they're marketing it.
They're still failing with that. And they really need to reignite
the the the fire there A first party only subscription tier too
many tiers anyway. It's just freaking annoying.
But as game buzz only subscription tier would be sick.
And if you made it and they have to they have.
I don't know how they're going to reconcile this.
They're going PC right? The next Xbox is APC thing.
You can market this as like game.
Well, just drop the pay to play online stuff.
You need to be disruptive. You need to be disruptive and
whether or not Xbox has the test to please to do it remains to be
seen. Remains to be seen Xbox needs to
do something desperately in my opinion to be relevant and a lot
of people are like, oh, they're third party publisher, they're
OK to post on the you know, software sales this and that.
And I'm like brav, which leads me which leads me to the next
topic, which is a topic that's burning in everyone's throats,
exclusives. What is going on?
What's going on here? Why?
Why am I observing huh? Why am I observing?
A lot of U turns from the narratives of a lot of people.
People love the this is an Xbox thing.
They said oh stop gatekeeping exclusives, stop gatekeeping
games Xbox is smart, this is 4D quadruple D chairs blah blah
blah. I just at one point when they
made a PlayStation capitulate seemingly by them going third
party, I was like OK maybe we were wrong, but Sony smart they
went back and said fuck it we're not making enough money from it.
Well, we don't know yet Assuming Jason's drive is right expert
PlayStation said Nah, let's just pay it back our single player
support on PC and focus on that device and it's a smart player.
I don't know why they would even consider doing it when they you
know for them gaming, Sony gaming is everything.
But now we're hearing rumblings that Xbox are considering all
and I'll be honest, I have a very specific take of where the
reality actually is with this case.
But it's important that they realise.
And I spoke to, you know, we had Jeff, Jeff, we had Jess Gordon
lost on last week talking about it.
But this is coming for from from Jess and by Insider Gaming.
Xbox is having very big discussions about exclusivity it
is claimed. Could Xbox be rethinking its
policy and exclusives when it comes to 1st party games?
That's what Windows Central said.
Jazz has said he talks about Call of Duty.
You know why? How I said they were thinking
about adjusting Game Pass. They are very, very, very big
discussions about exclusivity stuff going on.
I think they do recognise the value just about what kind of
company you want to be at the end of the day.
Do you want to be an ecosystem company 1st or do you want to be
a publishing company 1st? What's going on?
What's going on huh? Exclusives.
Are you guys Care now? You ostracised me, you molester
sized me. You said shut up Gaz stop
talking about exclusives. Just get over it.
Xbox has played 14 chairs. Stop gamekeeping.
Exclusives are antiquated. I've got AMD graphics card.
I'm a twat, but I'll keep chatting about Xbox exclusives.
Yeah, listen, how many people from the PC crowd who just
talked about exclusive lack of exclusives and they don't give a
shit about competition, blah blah, blah blah, blah.
Absolute nonsense, absolute nonsense.
Of course, so many of the PC guys were crying about, they
don't understand, they will completely ignore the history
behind the the the landscape that basically formed the gaming
space. So they were getting their hard
on thinking about how exclusivity was disappearing and
not realising what exclusivity has done for the space, what
these platform holders, the energy they bring in the space.
And you're Jess's company is right.
Do you want to be an eco ecosystem company, a publishing
company? First, I said this last week,
you cannot if Xbox has so short sighted that they and people are
like, oh, do you want, do you want the studios to die?
Do you want their games to fail? Listen, man, Microsoft's a
trillion dollar company. Are you sitting there crying
about? But it's still a business.
Every freaking shitty decision that they make, you back it and
swallow it up. But now you want to freaking go,
you know, have your little violin.
Oh, it's good for gaming. Yeah.
The secretly all these guys on the Xbox podcast, they want,
they want exclusives back. But this is this is what a safe
face? The parasocial crew.
Oh, yeah, it's good. Why you gatekeeping it?
It's bullshit. It's bullshit.
It's stupid. And now we're hearing it.
Do I think that Xbox will do it though?
Do I think Xbox has the testicles to do it?
And the answer to that is no, I don't think Xbox will do it.
I think what Xbox might do is a sum because they're not
committed to day and day on PlayStation just yet, but
conveniently with things that align with the launch of the
next Xbox, they might be more minded to try and make sure.
Well, they have to. They have to, you know, when
they have a marketing strategy should suggest that, you know,
you want to make sure that the next console that or hybrid that
you're revealing has to have some sort of bluster.
You start releasing these games at the same time as on
PlayStation Kill, it kills the hype.
People are like, well I'll just get on PlayStation.
So the Xbox isn't a rock between a rock and a hard place.
It's finally had a taste and the flavour of PlayStation money,
despite all the PlayStation fanboys saying that they don't
give a shit about PlayStation Xbox games.
They they really care about Xbox game right now.
One of the most serial hardcore PlayStation fanboy J dub is
playing Microsoft Flight Simulator on his PlayStation and
so many PlayStation guys really went out of their way to support
Forza Horizon. Apparently.
Well, I don't know that's a linear analytical.
I don't really trust their numbers really after some of the
weird reporting and the metrics that they utilised.
But you know what, what's apparently it's, you know, how
many millions have they sold off Forza Horizon?
I just don't think it's that much to sacrifice a long term
game. This is a short term play from
Xbox. They don't get it.
They just don't get it. That means either they don't
have the appetite to really back their brand and I don't think
they have that much faith. Like, they gave so much pressure
from Satya and all this we need to make and, you know, Amy Hood
and all of them, it needs to be a viable business.
We have to make sure that the numbers make sense.
Yes. And then Phil Spencer comes out
and say, you know, it doesn't matter if even if you release a
big game, it's not going to change the fucking thing.
I mean, of course it isn't going to change.
One singular game is not going to change anything.
You spend the entirety of last Gen just flopping and now you're
thinking, oh, no, yeah, if Starfield was a massive hit, it
won't change the fate of anything.
No shit, what do you mean? What goodwill did you build in
the brand? You can't sit out an entire
generation, shit it completely shit the entire generation you
shat it. Name me the killer apps on the
in the Xbox One generation and they'll be like a singular
figures. Not even that.
And then what? So how can you build?
And now you have to, Now you're a publishing powerhouse.
Xbox has so many studios. And this is The funny thing.
If you have the renegade spirit and actually realise what the
long term play is and you have the ferocity to back back your
bark, you would go exclusives because you know, like, OK, we
have Elder Scrolls, we are Microsoft or we are Xbox and we
have the whole suite of first person shooters, Western RPGs.
We've got so much shit. That's what they would be saying
and they should be saying well fuck it, let's just go.
How much money are they actually making though?
Other than Forza Horizon? Maybe Doom?
I don't think that the numbers justify the dilution of the
brand. But again, I say it's untenable
that I don't. I just don't see Xbox going back
to exclusives. But I'm hearing random stuff
about the look. Everything is fluid.
If it wasn't for Xbox, I would say God to come back and bring
back exclusives. I am very, very, very, very
strong proponent of exclusives. I think it'll make they all
change the energy in the space so much.
It would be and and when I say exclusives, I'm not saying that
PC will go with there's no the next console is a freaking PC
hybrid. So how you can some people like,
well, if it's true exclusives, they need to remove PC games as
well. It's not going to happen.
It's just not going to happen. Shout out to Epic Treasure.
Thank you so much for the gifted membership that 187 received.
Yeah. Drive by drive by let me do a
let me do a poll. I swear to God if you guys piss
me off with the results of this. Should Xbox bring go back to
exclusives? Go back to exclusives.
Oh, I actually, I should say, do you think Xbox?
No, actually it should. No.
Do you think Xbox will go back to exclusives?
Let's see so many podcasts and stuff.
They went out and did AU turn on this.
They swallowed the stuff they they just said.
Oh no, exclusively disappearing is great, blah, blah, blah, blah
blah, and they came at me for saying it's just nonsense.
How on earth and go go on any video on Xbox.
Now look, I'll show you let me show you just how crazy it is.
Xbox Matt booty came out of this week and did an interview,
talked about how collegiate the different studios are.
They're working together and it's it's actually really nice
to see. You know, we've we've been
hammering for ages. We talked about, you know, how
good would it be when, if Xbox went back to oh, I've got it
here. They did it on their podcast.
If you go on this podcast and you'll see the comments, all
you'll see is the top comments of this video.
Bring back exclusives, bring back exclusives, bring back
exclusives. Top comments are bring back
exclusives because people, what's the strength of the
brand? If you don't bring it, don't you
don't have any real identity anyway.
This this is a video by Matt Boot.
Brian Fargo Studio in Exile, working on Clockwork Revolution.
These guys is what we've talked about for a while that they, we
wanted the studios to work. You know why?
Why is Xbox the focus so much attention for from the
PlayStation Podcast almost wholly talk about Xbox.
Everyone really talks about Xbox despite the fact that it fumbles
all the time. Why is Xbox always in the
conversation? Because it's just a fascinating,
fascinating premiership from this from this company that had
a meteoric rise in the 360 jet disrupted stuff from the
original Xbox managed to land something called Halo that just
changed everything did led the way with online gameplay on
consoles and with achievements, blah blah blah.
And then they keep fumbling about.
They keep fumbling about, but they're still quite a young in
terms of the space. Like that's why you're like, we
follow it so strongly. You're like, oh, it would be
really nice. They in 2018, they start buying
all these studios and then you're like, OK, imagine what
these students could do. They start working together
because they got such mad talent.
So you got its software. Everyone's like, get them to
work on Halo. Its software should work on
Halo. And now we also talked about
tech sharing. Imagine if this, you know, the
water physics and, and the rest of thieves was used for another
game and blah, blah, blah. And we, we've been talking about
it for ages, But right now we're starting to see that it's
actually come to come to like maturity, like they're really
the student. Listen to it.
They're able to benefit from all of the really technical work
that they're doing up at the Coalition.
And there was other examples. We've got the Blizzard
Cinematics team helping out on Fable we've.
The Blizzard cinematic team, the best of the best.
They're the best of the best. I always use their cinematics
for a reason. Everyone who knows Blizzard
cinematics team, they're wicked. Them working on Fable?
Amazing. Got our studio in Montreal,
Compulsion Games using the Activision Mocap studio we've
got. Team Mocap is another big one,
so Ninja Theory as well as another big one.
They have a really good mocap studio.
So now you know the different studios starting to, so now
you're going to get that kind of quality in terms of well across
the board. Well Compulsion games still have
a lot to prove in my opinion, but safe.
I think the team at Rare with a lot of multiplayer experience
working on CF Thieves helping out double fine.
Which is interesting because Rare hasn't done anything for
ages. Safe.
And kiln the pottery game. So there's a lot of examples of
that. You know, one maybe just to sort
of show a more complicated round trip, you had State of Decay 2,
which had some pretty sophisticated technology for
doing saving shared worlds and how you sort of save this
persistent state. Which is again funny because
State of Decay too had that awful tethering shit, you know,
and and that was awful, but they also, they had to use a lot of
stuff. So you have that persistent
stuff that you leave in because it was a shared well.
And the team at Obsidian, which is a really small team that
built grounded, took that tech to use in Grounded, but then the
people at Obsidian kind of added to it and now it's gone 1st
circle back to Undead Labs to be in State of Decay 3.
So that's. Which is interesting because now
State of Decay 3 doesn't have that tethering bullshit, so
that's nice. So you decide to see and then it
goes on for a while. There's quite a lot, a lot of
examples here. I'll just read it out here for
you guys. King and Mojang, I don't give a
shit. Obsidian, you know, we've talked
about that now. Minecraft, in game stuff, I
think we've covered everything. But yeah, so that's really good.
So I mean, we've been talking about it for a while.
It's good to see Xbox Studio start to mature to the point
where they used to just start to share tech.
Shouldn't give you some good examples of it.
And yeah, let's see, let's see what happens.
I mean, this isn't necessarily guarantee that they're going to
be bangers, but it's just a specific point about the the
teams are trying to work on it. Now what?
What is what is freaking the issue with Halo Studios?
Someone needs to help them. Someone needs to help Halo
Studios because Halo has been an absolute shit show under 343,
which is what Halo Studios is now, just a different name.
And I'm sorry, I, I, I should have saved all of this stuff
when Pierre Hintsay and his team were appointed.
And I just said there's no guarantee for success.
You guys are just giving them a lot of credit because they fixed
the Master Chief collection and they fixed some of the, the, you
know, road map of Halo infinite. But building a new game, blah
blah blah is not great. And then we hear that the
leadership is absolute ass and I'm and I'm vindicated again.
Again, Son of Vision, thank you so much for the five.
Didn't you see the graph that got released a few days ago?
Of all the games released on PlayStation, only Forza made
over 1,000,000 sales. It's not worth it.
If someone can tag me in on Twitter with that graph, it will
be really helpful because I have seen that graph.
I don't know who made that number.
Again, if it's Alania Analytica or whatever, I just side eyed
them based on the manner in which I see them getting used
all the time. But I just question them, their
metrics and calculation methods. So that's why I really earn the
side of caution with them. And I know I don't use them so.
But if that's the case, that's terrible.
What's up, Senzu? Good to see you, man.
Yeah, I don't know, 3 for three is a shit show. 3 for three is a
shit show. It's absolutely atrocious what
they were. What?
What's happened with Halo? Prove me wrong.
I would happily, happily love to be wrong.
Oh, we've got funds are really in here Chat.
We're going to make some memes. How smoothly am I going to.
Oh, let me put my camera in so you can see my face.
Oh, shit, shit. Must have got this camera.
So funds wait for me, I will make the memes.
It'd be interesting to chop it up with Fonz on this whole point
as well actually. OK, here we go.
I'll put the music up a little bit because Spotify.
Oh sorry, Discord, was going to start pausing it anyway.
Captain Chats, you're a lovely sexual person, I want to put
that on the screen. Shout out to Captain Chats.
Everyone's give him a nice little hug and a * bringing up
that graphics. It might be bullshit though.
Elenia Analytica. I don't trust it.
I'll be honest with you. But if that then it's not out of
the realm or possibility that that's those are the kind of
numbers we're seeing phones. I'm just plugging in the camera
so you can see my face and we're about to make some memes and I'm
going to invite Fonzarelli. It's going to be the smoothest
transition in my life. Oh, Fonzarelli, Fonzarelli.
you. Hey.
You altitude is killing yourself.
I don't even know what to do. Can you hear me now, I.
Can hear you now. Can you hear?
Me. We are in.
We're in the matrix. We're plugged in.
Oh shit, the name tag's right. Oh God, I've got my face.
What's going on here? Let me turn the camera on.
That should fix things, yes. There it is.
I for some reason I've got 2 versions of me.
Let me figure figure that out, yeah.
Why am I? Figure it out.
Why am I appearing twice? Oh, there he is.
Oh shit, we saw it. We saw it at chat, we saw that.
Has he got that? No, all right.
Head roll. Yeah, all.
Right. See ya.
It's going to use my this camera, but I'm thinking it's
all right. It's all right.
It's all right.
How you doing, Fonzie? Good.
Doing great, doing awesome, doing fantastic.
Everything's going good, man. Thanks for joining us, man.
I was in the midst of talking about what is going on with Xbox
and exclusivity. And it's really handy because
we've got I don't know if you can see it on on the stream, but
we've got captain chats have brought up this graphic, which
again, our massive disclaimer. Again, I don't know if Alania
analytical analytics numbers are on point, but I don't feel like
these numbers are beyond not that out there.
Apparently on PlayStation, Starfield has sold 140,000,
which is weird. In in one week after Wall Street
was 100 sold 160 K total Flight SIM has sold 245,000 and Ninja
Gaiden has sold 257,000. About South of measly 54K, Age
of Empires 452K and South of midnight 16 K Yeah yeah.
And then these. Sounds about right.
It does sound right though, doesn't it?
It doesn't seem like it's out of the realm of possibility.
That's a really talk to me. A lot of people are now you've
seen the the chatter. You know, Jess Corden was saying
that basically there's some very fierce discussions about whether
or not Xbox will bring back exclusives.
I am on the square the squarely the position of I cannot see it
happening other than some maybe timed exclusivity that may
coincide with the release of the next console.
But what, what, what do you think, 11-D1, what do you think
will happen? And two, what do you think Xbox
should do in this space? I personally, OK, so I'm going
to go to the second part. Look, I would like to see them
compete again on that exclusive level because I think it was
obviously sort of a mistake for them, especially considering how
many consoles they sold after they decided to put their games
on PlayStation. People just stop buying consoles
from them. And there's another part to it
too. It's it's not just the fact that
they don't have exclusivity, it's also the fact that most of
their games. A lot of.
People out there have this, the notion that they just suck or
they're just mid and, and they, you know, even when the game
isn't a terrible game, like for me, I really like Outer Worlds
2. I I had a a blast playing that
game. I think it was better than the
first in in almost all areas except for a couple, but that's
besides the point. I thought it was a really good
game. However, there's this stigma
around Xbox games that I've talked about here last time I
was on your show, where people just feel like they're not as
good as some other competitors. And outside of things like Forza
Horizon, OK, Forza Horizon will sell well across the board.
But as you've seen, even Starfield, Starfield's not
selling so good on PlayStation. And one of the big reasons for
that is the fact that that got a really bad take from a lot of
people that didn't even play the game.
They just automatically said that game's mid.
And so many casuals just jumped on that and said, yeah, it's it.
It's a mid game, I'm not buying it.
And it's like they won't even give him a shot.
And right now there's some discourse around even Elder
Scrolls 6 and the possibility of that game being kind of
overlooked because of certain games that are out now, dare I
say Crimson Desert, things like that, that have put a different
spin on the open world genre. They, they've gotten so much
packed into this particular game that a lot of people are asking,
why do we need it? I didn't mean to do that.
That was a oh man, why do we need an Elder Scrolls 6?
You know, and look, I'm not as hyped for Elder Scrolls 6
because of Starfield because of what was lacking a bit in that
game. And of course that's the
exploration. You know, we've talked about
this before you and I I thought it was a great game.
I had a good time with it, but I think that they just kind of
oversold it on the exploration aspect and it just didn't hit in
that regard. But if they would have just
concentrated on 10 planets and didn't have this, you know,
procedural worlds happening for 1000, I think it would have been
much, much better. It would have been much better
received. And a lot of people are kind of
looking at it. Also the fact that some of it
felt a bit dated in the game, like there was some aspects
about the game that they were like this creation engine needs
work and it needs to be. It needs to get better and I
think they just hold that over to Elder Scrolls 6 as well.
I myself do it. I'm, I'm sitting here like
concerned about Elder Scrolls 6 because of the creation engine
and because of other games kind of excelling in this open world
genre RPG, if you will. So we, you know, there's things
there. But As for Xbox getting back
into exclusivity, I believe what you said earlier, I think
they'll do it on a case by case basis and and it it, it will be
timed. I don't think it's going to be
completely exclusive. You know these games, if they
do, they do that. I, I just don't see that they,
they've opened Pandora's box that they'll close again.
And I think, you know, the beginning, it will be convenient
because their development timelines may not permit,
because, you know, later on they met, they may have started Gears
of War Eden, maybe development a little bit later on.
And then the PlayStation version will come out later after the
fact. And so then people will be like,
oh, right, OK, you know, and it suits them with the launch of
the next Gen console coming in where they can just stagger it.
And that's, I mean, I don't even know if Xbox will do even that
because to me it's very clear that Xbox just want to that
their user base isn't that strong.
And it would take a very bold move from Asha Sharma.
I think for her for Xbox to do that, she would have to fight
Satya Nadella. But Satya Nadella basically
hired her, put her in the place. And I don't think she has that
kind of fight. And I think.
Here's the thing, I'm glad you brought up Asha because I said
this on my show the other day. And no, this is not me glazing
Xbox at all, people. But I will say, from what I'm
hearing from her and what I've seen her do so far, I think that
they're better off going with Asha instead of Sarah and Phil
the way we were, you know, that road we were headed down before.
It just seems like she's kind of doing more right now and trying
to do more now. Actions speak louder than words.
I got to see more action from her.
But so far, I like that she got rid of the, you know, this is an
Xbox campaign. I thought, you know, we, we both
thought that was kind of silly. We've had a lot of fun of that
behind the scenes too. Understatement, but I mean, if
you just look at her attitude and the fact that you have this
young person that's got fresh eyes on the company, I think
she's noticing a lot. Like the fact that she even
brought up Game Pass in the price point at all is, is
something of a miracle for Xbox. Because honestly, if, if, if the
other two were still at the helm, I don't think we would
have seen anybody go back and revisit any of this stuff.
I don't think they would revisit the price structure at all.
I think they were content with it and it was ludicrous.
Because I'll say it again, people, I've said it many times,
$30 is just too much for this subscription service.
Just way too much, way too much. So I do see a lot of things that
she's trying to get right. And I applaud her for that.
I hope she does again, actions speak louder.
I want to see her do more, but she I think she's saying a lot
of the right things so far. And this is not a knock on Phil
per SE. Don't don't get me wrong people.
I think Phil, the last couple years for what I've been told
this Phil kind of just was in that, you know, I'm about to
retire mode and I, I again, anytime you put a fresh new pair
of eyes in there that actually look for things like this and
they're speaking about it's a good idea.
This I, I, I think it so far, I think it's, it's doing well for
them. Absolutely.
I think, I think she's, I mean, speaking is one thing that at
the end of the day, she will be judged for her comment and her
ability to back those words. So obviously it's easy to have,
you know, this is the honeymoon period for Asha Sharma in terms
of the statement she's saying. And a lot of things are lining
up with the Xboxes, you know, road map.
They've got really good, like Gears of Warness.
Berries. Personal.
It's parasocial. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I've never even talked to Asha before Paris.
Like she doesn't follow me. Phil never followed me, so I had
none of that going on. But at the end of the day, you
know, this whole parish social thing, I think it's blown out of
proportion for sure. But there was some of that going
on with certain content creators.
But yeah, I of course it was blown out of proportion as well.
Tom Henderson was telling me about the way some of the
parasocial stuff was was happening.
And I was like, Oh my God, it was so lame.
So lame. I mean, look, I get it, people
are fans of stuff and and all that, but.
Yeah, it's like celebrities to them.
Yeah. Yeah, so lame.
It's so lame. These are not gaming execs as
well and I think it's just. Yeah, I know.
Like I'll just say that I'm, I'm not going to name any name, but
you know, shout out to Web Dave. I'll name that name because he
was one of the guys. There was this one moment I
remember last year during Fan Fantast at a specific lobby
everybody likes to hang out at. As soon as Phil and Sarah come
in, you see a group of men just go swarming.
I'm just walking so fast towards them and I remember looking over
at Web Dave and Web Dave looks at me and he goes, I ain't doing
that. And I said thank you.
Thank you Dave. Exactly.
Let them live. Let them live in peace.
Shout out to web Dave. Shout out to web Dave.
Kept it real, you know, he's a big massive Xbox fan, but even
still, he thought I draw the line running off towards just to
sign off. I still make fun of John from
Xbox here or whatever they're called now because what they
call now I forgot. Day one, Day one.
Day one, yeah. And you know, when I was at
Gamescom, I still rinse and I'm like, you lined up for about a
good two hours to because they had a book.
So they were getting the Xbox book that they were selling.
But at the same time, like, there's no fucking way I'm
waiting. I'm not even bro.
He needs to come up to see me, bro.
Like, why? He's exec, he's selling the
game. Why am I rushing?
Oh, Phil, thank you for the all the broken promises.
Yeah, yeah. Thank you, Exclusive Snowman.
It's. Not.
Yeah, you know, and I and I hate to you know, I don't mean to
like point at people and and be like, yeah, that's kind of
ridiculous. But again, at the same time, you
know, when these execs, they have lives too, they're, they're
coming down there to have a coffee or, or, or talk to some
people. You know, I don't think they
want to be rushed every time. They're, you know, that's just
why they might. Love it, they might love.
It they might love it, I don't know, but it's again looking
over at web Dave. I'm like, this is crazy, right?
And he's like, I'm not doing that.
And I'm like, it was so good. It was so funny.
Dave, you remember when that happened?
It was hilarious. They loved them.
What's up group? They just follow each other
like, oh, we're there. This is the updating each other.
This is where things are. It's just like, look, I get it.
Look, you might have gazed and followed.
You guys are being Dick heads. We love this stuff and we follow
it really good. And you know, we're really
passionate about it. That's absolutely fine.
But we're entitled to think that's fucking weird behaviour,
bruv. And I feel like when you're
inclined that way, then your coverage, Like I met Aaron
Greenberg at games.com and I was joking about with him, but I had
my pony hat. But see, there's a difference
here. People like like Aaron, people
like Jason, Ronald even. He'll come over to you.
Yeah. He's really about meeting people
and, you know, talking to Xbox fanatics and stuff.
Yeah. I mean.
Came up to me, Yeah. He was like, hey guys, I'm like,
oh shit, I'm surprised you know who I am because of course I
know you are, he said. I wish I could say the things
you say, but carry on keeping our feet, the fire, holding your
feet to the fire. I don't know whether or not
that's true or not, but it was nice of him to say and but when
I had the pony, it's. True.
It's true. Yeah, they, they do.
They do peek in from time to time in, in various shows like
they do. Yeah, they, they hear, they they
see clips. That's true.
I think they have to keep their their, their air on the ground
as well. You wouldn't.
I had my pony mask. I'm like, can you step on it?
He's like, I can't do that. I put that posted up on Twitter.
He was a fun, fun guy. But generally, I think Asha
Sharma is now you've got people really going into Asha Sharma.
They really love the whole thing.
Look at Paris, it's true fucking passion.
But you know, Paris does know them on a level.
Paris is one of those who just. Paris.
Paris is different though. Paris is very chill at those
things. Yeah, I saw Paris.
He. Was.
He came out with us. Instead of going to that, he
went to that meeting and said yeah, it was nice.
And then he came out to us and we had dinner.
And Paris is not like that. Paris is chill, Paris is cool.
Yeah, he's real chill. He's on, he's on.
People come up to Paris all the time.
They're like, oh, Paris, yeah. It's so good to meet you, you
know? And I'll, and I'll say Cognito.
Cognito is like, he's very like he's part of, he's into the
source, really like everything. Any game dev meeting, all
publishers, he has his business hat on and he's so active, it's
ridiculous. It's not parasocial.
He's just going out there grinding.
Oh, Cognito is all about making that content, Yeah.
Which you know, networking should be perfect.
King, king as well. King as well.
King, absolutely.
Those guys have got their head screwed on right when it comes
to the whole networking. They treat you like a business.
They've got an LLC. And so that's different to a
bunch of like guys who just absolutely worship these execs.
But Asha Sharma is going to start field a little bit of that
love coming her way and. I hope I please people like I'm
going to see you guys out there. You know what?
We'll break bread and stuff. But please leave Asha alone.
Don't don't rush her every chance you possibly get.
Like let her live. Let her live.
Bro, Asha Sama, you know she's not a very pretty lady as well,
so you're going to get the Xbox guys doubling down on just
making sure they're being creepy.
Hopefully not, but you know, Asha Sama's also she's she's you
know what I've I even though like I feel like I'm hesitant to
give her her credit, but I shouldn't be.
I should really assess her based on what she's done and so far
she's just said stuff other than cancel the Xbox.
This is an Xbox ad, even though let's be honest, in reality.
Yeah, Paris said it. Yeah, she's going to be Russian.
Yeah, I know, I know Paris. And I feel so bad because I, I
mean, she'll probably welcome it.
Don't, don't get me wrong, she seems like a nice person, but
there's got to be a certain point where you're like, OK, can
people just back off a bit? Like, I mean, I, I guess they
expect that in their, you know, positions though when they're
out and about. Is what it is in terms of people
actually loving our people. You'll never change that.
People evangelise certain people, they look up.
To BT, Mavericks said I'm going to rush BT You will be out there
and you'll be one of those guys doing that fast walk.
It's not a run. It's like this little fast walk.
They're like, Oh my God, there's Phil Spencer.
Oh man, let the man have his tea and crumpets or whatever how
he's doing right there. I saw that when Jason Ronald was
there delivering the thing on GDC and I just like bro, I just
like Tom. Please just go.
Tom was just turned around that got the inside of gaming crew
don't give a shit about. Didn't run over there, huh I?
Didn't even, I didn't even go up to speak.
I just went the opposite way. I'm like, look, look, I'm not a
journalist. There's.
Something wrong with, you know, Like if he's there to talk to
people, you walk up trying to learn things.
There's nothing wrong with that. I agree with you, but I I will
say like a part of Insider gaming, there's also an element
of look, I get it. I'm a personal troll and you
know, I'm very extroverted. I love to meet people and talk
to people. I even message Jason Ronald if
want to grab a drink or something.
We can have a just chat chat about stuff but not rushing
people up like. That there's a difference
between like what you saw with Jason.
Jason was there to talk to the people after the show.
That's different. Now.
I'm talking about when these people are just trying to sit
and have a drink and they're talking amongst each other,
other executives and stuff. And then you got guys, 40 year
old men just freaking sashaying over there, you know, it's just
like. Let me say one thing,
PlayStation guys will make fun of this.
But if PlayStation guys. Actually do it too of.
Course they would. I don't.
I don't wanna hear that. Ohh, you know, would.
Dude, look, they have to leave the house.
They don't leave the houses. That's the one thing.
They'll make fun of fan Fest in general, even take the
parasocial stuff away. Let's say the execs didn't even
show up there. Let's say you were just, you
know, in there. You get some swag, you go watch
the show, you leave. You know what?
They would do the same thing, but they make fun of that aspect
too. Well look at all these Xbox
getting together to watch and have a watch party.
They used to do the same shit. It was called the Sony
PlayStation Experience or something back in the day.
I think it was like PlayStation Experience.
I believe that's what they call it.
Paris might know. They used to do this kind of
stuff for their face of. Course they would.
They, they, they would you, they throw him a bone and they would,
they would worship, they worship Mock Sunny.
They would absolutely lick Herman Holst chin if he said
something, you know. Well, actually I don't know if
they like Herman Holst because of the whole Killing Blue .0
that they forgot about that and I think they've just now they
love him now. Because I almost want to do like
a, you know, like a documentary of, of the J dub lobby, you
know, I'll be staying there anyway.
So like just do a whole narrative documentary on this,
you know, get get Paris to narrate as well.
Tom's actually considering doing a battery on the just chaos that
goes on at the J dub. It's crazy about it.
Yeah. They, they're, you know, Cullen.
Perhaps they're just jealous. There is an element, I will be
honest, of jealousy with the PlayStation guys because they
get annoyed. They get annoyed when people get
coverage of stuff. I will be honest that I found
the Xbox sweaters and the gift basket really kind of cheese,
really cheese. And the Paris was posting it to
people. I thought it was cheesy as fuck.
OK hi. So.
So, Ashley, you signed my name. So here's a couple of things,
right? I could see both sides of the
coin here. I understand that.
You can look at that and go, man, it's cringe that they're
giving certain content creators this stuff.
And it's like, because you, you feel like certain content
creators are just doing more work for them for free, you
know, but at the same time, that's the point for these
businesses. They, they want these content
creators to show off this stuff and to be hype for the brand.
And I get it. Like I, I get it from their
perspective. Hey, these are the people out
there that make a lot of noise that a lot of even casualty from
time to time. And if we push this Helix now we
get the ball rolling. This will be nothing but help in
the long run. And I and I get that it's
business. I I but, but I again, I see the
other side of the coin too, from the aspect of it could be kind
of cringe or whatever, But again, it's business for them,
man. It's I get the.
Business element of it and yeah, you know, Epic Treasure mentions
that it's kind of it's a shame how little PlayStation has a
connection with their community because but the PlayStation
community just shows for free and any little element.
But the PlayStation community, they'll buy PlayStation Nikes
for $200, you know what I'm saying?
They'll pay for it, they'll buy, but they'll make fun of you for
getting it for free. It makes no sense.
Like honestly, at the end of the day, it's jealousy.
We know that to be like a lot of this stuff where people are
like, Oh my God, I can't believe they're getting stuff because
they're jealous. Like it's, it's painfully
obvious. It's so obviously some of these
people, you've seen them and the execs have come on their shows
from PlayStation, Sony execs, and they're just X execs, alumni
even, and they're just like waxing lyrical.
Yeah, I love Sean. And it's just like, OK, no, you
know, different from them. And then I know for fact some of
these losers would absolutely suck off places 100% but they
don't give the time of the day because even the PlayStation
execs look at them and think they're fucking weird.
No, but that's what but that's the the way you view it because
you see certain people, you're like, oh, that guy sucks off
Microsoft all the time. No wonder he got that box.
Wow, cringe. But there's very many other
content creators that don't, and they got that box.
Yeah. That's true.
So, so, so it's just like, you know, it's business for them,
OK. Harris says.
I want to wear that hoodie just to wear that hoodie.
Just to piss them off. Best believe if they gave me a
free Helix hoodie I'm going to be wearing it.
I don't give a fuck, I'm going to do it.
Yeah, but it's just the the the foolie of the oh, Asha signed
this. Thank you so much, Asha.
Like some people could do it and you know, like that's fine, but
I don't know, I just find it weird.
I felt like when I was at GDC pop inside the game, we can't
really do that. What's funny is I saw
Christopher drink. I'll take any free swag.
You know me. I was Mr IGN two years ago,
Christopher, drinking free swag. I wore it.
I saw Christopher drink at GDC and he was lined up at the Xbox
booth without the older classic Xbox stuff, and he was lining up
Xbox flag and I was like, I could so tweet this right now.
And then you're like, yo, look at Christmas drink.
He's just lighting up. He loves Xbox freebie stuff, but
shits on the well, I wasn't a Dick, although I've kind of just
give it loud, the loud the truth.
But yeah, you know, look, it's a balance.
I get it what it is. I just felt like, Oh my God,
that's so, so lame. I felt, I felt it was lame and I
felt like you've. Got as as you should brother, as
you should wear that. I'm wearing the the Healy City
next week at the Forza Horizon event in Tokyo.
Look, it's different. The way you do it is different.
But at the same time, you know you're going to Tokyo again and
get you're doing coverage for Forza Horizon 6.
That's amazing. You get to fly out and you get
to do all that stuff, but you know, it's it's a balance that
they need to strike. But the content creators that do
that, they play with fire. I I genuinely believe that in
the manner in which they do it. Some people are they, you know,
they're known shills and they will go ahead and do that.
Some people are a cocuse of being shills like Paris, but
Paris can be can say the opposite of something.
Paris. Your clips have been doing the
rounds about the exclusivity point lately.
I was I mentioned it to Paris. I'm like, holy shit.
They just took that bit where he was basically talking about the
Xbox console and they just yeah, they'll clip it.
The sad, sad people that they are.
And I'm sure there's more context to it.
But generally, though, I will say, but not Paris not directed
at Paris, but there's other people who really were defending
Xbox's U-turn. They just parrot whatever tune
Xbox sings. They will echo that, Yeah.
And I that is the point I don't like and that they are, well, me
and you know. Yeah, yeah, they'll basically
they'll fight with you if you have a dissenting opinion of
what Xbox is doing, no matter what, even if they do a total
180 and and you then they'll be like joining you.
Oh yeah, it's this is what they should have done.
You're you're totally right. Like, yeah, Xbox did it.
So yeah, it's it's good. There's, there's a lot of people
like that, but I don't, I don't pay those people too much mind
anymore. Like I used to argue a lot with
people on Twitter. And so I just don't.
It's just I, I've grown out of that the last couple of years.
Like I don't need that BS. It's it's ridiculous.
I I mean, at the moment, I feel like I'm massively vindicated by
watching the very same people like going out there trying to
retrofit their arguments about exclusivity because genuinely,
you, you are aligning with whether the marching orders of
your platform what is doing and you're just justifying it.
And I just don't like that. And now everyone is talking
about it. And now it's very clear.
I'm sorry, it's very clear. The moment you've got a glimpse
of a potential that Xbox might U-turn on exclusives.
And then, you know, Jess Corden talks about, you know, what's
going on here. People are like, yes, let's go
back, let's go. Back to get.
Exclusive the top comment on every like the Matt Booty
interview was bring back exclusive bring back exclusive
Why? Because your identity is tied to
it and you know, a lot of people may not agree with that point,
but I just think ultimately Xbox has to do if Xbox wants to be
something in the space and it look I'm.
Sure. That's something that you and I,
OK. So you and I talk pretty much
daily. And so we've been talking about
exclusivity for a while. And at one point I used to argue
with you all the time. Like now I don't think it's that
important, you know, it's, it's, it's the, the importance of it
has has waned so much. Like they don't need everything
to be exclusive. But I've, the last year I've
been changing my mind on that and telling you, hey, you know,
I, I think you're right, you know, and we had this talk
months ago before any of this stuff, you know, came out from
Xbox or anything. That's I, I just changed my mind
on it because they started looking at everything and going
man, it really has made an impact on Xbox's console sales
like extremely like it's hurt them so bad and.
The perception of it I'm not. Why would?
You want the perception and then and and again.
You have to look, a lot of people aren't going to like
this. But I, I'm going to kind of
reiterate, but I've been saying this for a while.
I said that the last time I was on your show too.
And people, Xbox guys don't like it when they say this.
But I think what Mikey Barra said the other day is 100%
right. I think they need to focus on
making great games. I think they need to, they need
to focus on making games that do appeal to a broader audience.
I've stated that for many months because I believe that I've say
that for a year now, like I've been saying that they need to
just focus on making some fantastic game.
New IP, not just your Halo, Gears and Forces.
You need some new IP. That's why with Fable, I really
hope Fable stands strong on its own.
I, I hope it really does well because even though this is an
established franchise, it's kind of something new because a lot
of the the gamers today probably haven't even played the original
Fables. And also it's, it's such a
refreshing, like revamp of the game.
So hopefully it does really well because that's what they need.
They need new IP that honestly appealed to a lot of people on
sell. At the end of the day, if you're
going to put this on other consoles with, you know, where
sales matter, you got to sell those games.
Because I look at Xbox and I'm like, they've gotten to the
point where game passes everything for them.
And it's kind of changed a lot of Xbox's perception, their fan
base in how they consume games. They don't necessarily buy many
games anymore. They just consume them through
Game Pass, which is, look, that's their thing.
I understand why you do it. But at the end of the day, they
got to understand that they've also completely changed their
mindset on the value proposition of these games, on the value of
these games alone. Because you're telling me that
these games, they're OK enough to put in a, you know, a 30
million, you know, subscription service, you know, subscriber
service. And, and that's that they're
just that good enough, but they're not good enough to, to,
to, to buy or, you know, because that's the mindset people have
changed. They, they've decided not to buy
games anymore. They've just decided to use Game
Pass. I mean, you, you've got people
like Doc Dark in here that'll tell you Game Pass is such a
great value. I use Game Pass all the time
when it comes to Xbox. That's what he's doing.
That's what most people are doing on Xbox.
They're not buying games and. Good to see.
You and that's the thing though, not only their consoles have
stagnated sales but also Game Pass subscriptions have
stagnated. So where do you grow outside of
that? I understand that's why they try
to put games on other platforms and sell them.
That makes sense if those games didn't have that stigma around
them of being mid games, Yeah, that is their problem.
They need to concentrate on making some games that appeal to
more people because. So that's, this is the tweet I
think you're alluding to. And I think, yeah, I agree
largely, he says. I, in my opinion, I don't know
what the deleted post was, but he replied, he goes, the focus
is on the wrong thing. If this is even a reality which
I question, they need to figure out how they continue to fail to
make great Epic Games, the studios who should be pumping
out 90 rated games regularly. Consistently making good games
has to be the number one goal and something is very broken
with that capability at Xbox. With great games comes a much
easier decision on platform strategy and ultimately a
positive and growing profit and loss.
And I think he's right there. I think This is why when we keep
saying that the one game we keep moving the the goal post shifts
to the next game because the the you know, Starfield didn't hit
the 90. And I thought that was a bit
that was a misstep like the Xbox desperately needed that 90 plus
Forza Horizon 6 looks good. It's still a racer.
And I get it. A lot of people like, oh, it's
just a racer and still, but it still speaks to the value value
of it. Then Forza Horizon 3 is a Forza
Horizon five Storey is the last game that hit 90 plus meta.
But is, are they just a 1 trick? The pony with their races can
only get those 90 plus. That's why there's a lot of
pressure on Fable to do that. We had some rumours suggesting
and this is now another thing. So Fable needs to kind of hit
that bar. I really think it really should
hit that bar. I think that, you know, a lot of
people like to bemoan what Metacritic does.
And I get it, I get it. There's it's it's a nuanced
topic because I know medically isn't the be all and end all of
stuff. Like, you know, it's like if you
it was you're enjoying Crimson Desert and where's Crimson
Desert now in 78? Yeah.
So it's like, I think it's replaced and you know, and I've
had cholesterol protocol. I love that game.
And that's around about then I think.
And I thought that was a brilliant game.
So it's not obviously it doesn't, you know, it's not
gospel, but at the same time, you can't ignore it.
I also saw at the Xbox store that they had a meta the game
being shown and the meta score being shown for the game.
So they've been integrated into the into the UI and I'm like,
oh, wow, that's interesting. Bold for Xbox to do.
I think Xbox generally have good quality now.
Their quality has been generally really good.
Like as the publishers get into speed, you know you've had doom
that done really well and you avowed has done those scores.
I know, but if game passes and growing because of that good
quality or they're not selling games on other platforms, what
do they do? It's that stigma.
I'm telling you, there's a stigma around Xbox games,
whether you think they're quality or not, whether they are
or not. But I think I think the most.
People out there are just like, oh brother, I'm not playing Xbox
games. I.
Think, I think that's that's a bit strong in terms of how
people have a distaste towards Xbox games.
I think more than the reality aligns with, oh, OK, it's not
like, oh, that's an Xbox game. Like you know what PlayStation
exclusives come out. They have a much more solid
track record in terms of their big hitters, right?
Hitting, permeating and penetrating the 90 meta Scorp
thing. You had spider man 2 which I
don't really haven't played. But again, it's that mindset
too. You got to understand, even for,
you know, most gamers out there, they they just they
automatically think, oh PlayStation, they have better
games no matter what, but. That but that, but that, but
that's as a result. Of how do you change that mind
generation? Yeah, I know, but but but that
is that is the the the the biggest crutch of the issue
here. How does Asha get around that?
Well this is where I agree with you that they need to have a lot
more 90 plus bangers. I think that's the only way.
That that. Yeah, yeah, I think Fabled needs
to really hit the mark and then you need to have other and, and
this is not saying that they're not going to do it and they
can't do it. No, I think a lot of their
studios are very capable, aside from Halo studios.
They fucking suck. Anyways, I didn't say that.
Anyways, I've been saying that for years.
Remember we used to argue about 3-4 three.
They used to tell you they were terrible and you were like, no,
they're not. I'm like.
No, no, they said I didn't write off Halo Infinite.
This is before Halo Infinite even came out.
And I said, look, they, they just, they did some bits right.
They were wrong. And then I had to come out and
say, you know what, actually, you're right, Halo in Halo that
that you, you said 3 for three are terrible.
And I said that's not necessarily the case.
I was wrong. You were right.
Three for three just seemed to be just, I mean, I'm not saying
that the the, the team and the oh shit, it's the leadership
that's shit. I don't even want to get into
the weeds on Halo Studios because again, I've talked to
death about that for many years. But the rest of their studios,
there's a lot of good studios. You got the freaking Coalition.
You got Playground games. You got freaking what's what's,
you know, Bethesda can do so much better.
Like I really think they have some great studios.
I mean, and they do better. They have games like Doom that
always do really well. I mean, they, they've got, it's
software, they got machine games, they've got all these
studios, they're really good even like.
Which I think Halo should go to its software.
That's just my opinion. I think they can do a fantastic
game with that. I agree.
A lot of people disagree, but no but.
I agree with you generally on the point about the Xbox quality
mark. I think they this year looks
remarkably strong. I think it will be a shame if
Xbox doesn't hit the penetrate that 19 mark with Fable.
I think that's important. I think Gears of War coming out
this year is insane. I think I don't know how that's
the case. I still in disbelief that Gears
of Gears of War and it's getting a 30 minute deep dive and it's
just gameplay. And you know, Matt Booty talks
about it as well. And going into it this week, we
also heard from from Jazz that a thing that I have been talking
about for ages, that freaking thing needs to the Gears of War
I talk about. Ever since Gears of War 1, as
soon as I played Gears of War 2, the fatigue set in and I'm like,
oh, they, they, it's the same like the same guns.
They didn't have the impact. I was like, I immediately felt
like they could take it to another level and they just,
they, it lost the weight and not a lot of people say Gears of War
two and three were their more favourite ones.
For me, Gears of War one was, but I and I, I, I'm not saying I
hate Gears of War. I really enjoy Gears of War.
I feel like the, the potential for gears is very high, but I'm
not a gears guy as a result of gears not really evolving like
it should. But they've said all the right
things. And this this week, you know,
the I, I one of the things I said about, for instance, it's,
it's such a, it might seem like a minor point, but I was talking
about how the chainsaw was one of the things I said.
They slow things down and, you know, make the make, don't make
the chainsaw, just the, the little QT.
It's not a Sony game. And you know, Jess Gordon saying
that they, they've evolved the gameplay with a formula.
So like melee, Oh my God, fuck off.
Sorry, Adblock's coming up. You know, like Melee would be a
more of a thing, but more, you know, like Melee would be more
of a thing. More chainsome, but more dynamic
chainsome, not just scripted events.
So there's a chance of animation.
It's badly quoted, but yeah, that kind of weight and stuff.
I'm I really want Gears to evolve and it looks like it's
going to evolve. And the kind of game that you
want Xbox to to smash out. This is the gear where they
could fables one of those. Forza is going to be another
one. You can't just discard it
because. It's fable.
Forza Horizon is definitely going to do numbers, especially
because it's already been been announced for PlayStation.
Oh man, if they sold a 5 year old game, I mean millions over
there, they're going to sell a brand new Forza Horizon very
well over there. So Shadow. 250 people smash the
like button, smash it, smash it. Where's the music that's fucking
dead because fucking discord likes to mute it even though I'm
playing music? Anyway, and that's the other
part of the equation too. When we talk about possibility
of exclusives returning for Xbox, they're also looking at
that money too. They're like, well, Forts is
doing numbers over there. Do we really want to take that
away? And you know, and and again,
that's why I think it'll be a case by case basis.
And who knows, like with the way E day looks, that might sell
really well over there. Just because Reloaded didn't
sell a freaking, you know, 20 something year old game that
just, you know, it was kind of revamped it.
That doesn't mean that E Day is not going to sell.
E Day looks incredible. One thing I love what they did
with E Day over, you know, you're talking about how the
guns and everything look improved or the slowing down of
the chainsaws and stuff. For me, it's just the overall
tone. It looks like they're going back
to that horror element, and I know they've always had a bit of
that even through 5, but it just wasn't there like it was in the
first one and I and I and and the locust seems scary as hell
in this one. Again, like it it, that sense of
just that tenseness, that edge of your seatness of that trailer
that they showed just a couple of years ago that freaking blew
me away, man. Being there in the audience and
seeing that and feeling the energy in the room.
People were so excited after that trailer because it.
Was incredible. It's rare to see an Xbox game
invoke that kind of emotion and it speaks to the value of the
Gears as an IP and it's ability to do what you're talking about
really. I'm not really worried about E
day. I'm not worried about the
Coalition. I I mean, they're a great.
Studio. Yeah, they're they're a great
studio. I I have I'm I'm not worried but
I want it to be what I specifically feel like against.
You wanted to smash it out? Yeah.
You wanted to freaking get that 90 plus meta sell like crazy.
Do well or? You know if it is another.
None of that, actually. No, I don't give a shit about
how it sells or it's I, I do. Hear how well it does?
I do. No, I don't see these games
actually freaking numbers. What I mean is more primarily
when you're talking about what my main concern is, my main
concern is that look out if it hits 95 meta and sells really
well, but the game formula is very, very conservative to what
I have. I'll be disappointed because I
feel like in terms of the, the game as an IP, the the ceiling
is really high. And I feel like like in terms of
how you can evolve it, I have an idea in my brain.
Everything that they've said that they're going to do with
this game is basically what I've been talking about for years.
And even Cliff Lesinski, he came out and echoed those statements
and he said he got goosebumps thinking about, you know, how
that lone locus was making it so difficult for Marcus to fight.
He he cited that as an example and and I said, look, these are
ugly, freaking crazy creatures that don't deserve to just be
relegated to being cannon fodder.
So slow it down, make us sick. I want, you know, I really
wanted to do that. And I feel like it.
I can't. Everything they say on paper is
fine, but I've been burnt. I've been in this space for a
long time that it might not manifest itself in that way.
So that's what I primarily care about.
But of course I want the game to do well.
And you know, the, the whole point that we're talking about
is about hitting it. Every game has to hit the 90
plus matter and I've got that. So why how I wouldn't do AU turn
on time for for no reason, but what I'm saying is in terms of
my priorities, I want the game to be great and to evolve.
I just want it to evolve, but I'm not.
But if it does do that font and you know you've got Forza
Horizon smashes out it's in Japan, it's coming out next
month. There's videos I've been
watching right now of you know, people sharing how good it looks
and I was very critical of it. I was like, oh, I don't know if
this is going to be, you know, visual.
It didn't impress me in some bits.
But then I started, I watched it, the 4K, you know, footage of
off the game, and I was like, oh shit, you know what?
That's freaking the starting race.
It looks great. So Forza Horizon 6 smashes it.
Then you get Gears of War, whenever that's being released,
comes out and smashes it, and Fables also smashes it.
You've changed that perception, the very thing that you're
talked about. Now.
You've turned on his head now Whether?
But are you? So what?
What happens then? Phones.
What if Forza Horizon hits 90? What if Gears hits 90?
What if Fable hits 90? Will that be enough for you to
change the perception or for Or do you think that will be enough
to change the perception? I think it's, I think I think it
would definitely start for many people.
I think they would start to see them a little bit differently.
Like they'd sit up a bit and be like, hey, and you know that
they've got this new Fable IP that's done really well too.
So you not only have the Gears and Forza, but you've got a
newer IP. But I think they would, I think
they would definitely need more of new IP.
And I think here's the thing, I think we will see that like I
think even this June, I, I think we might see something new from
them that looks really big and good.
I don't think it's just what we know is already coming.
I'm sure there's some unannounced stuff that they'll
show that'll get people excited. And that's the kind of stuff
that I'm really excited to see from them.
I want to see what they have that's unannounced personally,
because I already know what's coming.
I already know what I'm I'm going to like from them and what
I'm hoping to like, because I really hope that Fable speaks to
me here. I I really hope that that game
is really good because I want to play it and Gears E day.
I'm not worried about it. I know I'm going to love it.
I know I'm going to love the game.
Forza Horizon is not really my bag, but that's just me.
You know, I'm not a racing fan, but it looks great and it looks
even better in this 4K stuff you're showing here than it did
when we first saw it. No no bro you you need to watch
these in. 30 frames or is that in 60 by the way?
Because I I-60 a lot of people. OK, good, good.
Because a lot of people were showing it.
I guess the footage they got to show was all 30 like a month ago
or a few weeks ago, yeah. Yeah.
No, it's definitely it. It was like Series X best foot
forward, you know, high quality graphics, 30 frames.
You know. So you haven't even seen the the
gameplay from the PC side? That's the that's the crazy
part. I've been playing this with
maxed out with ray tracing on. It's going to be.
Fucking. Sane.
I mean. I've got it right now and it
looks beautiful look. I wanted a generational update
on it, but then the the last game looks so beautiful.
It's just like oh look, it looks great anyway with the ray
tracing or the stuff on and some of the environments are insane.
This game just looks beautiful and Japan.
I can't see it not being successful, but you know, I've
talked about what Forza Horizon and Japan needs to do and it
can't just slap out. And I think, I suspect it will
be this anyway, the slap a load of icons everywhere because
that's what Forza Horizon is. It's almost like a Ubisoft
formula of of racing games. But it's so much fun to play
that, you know, it's one of those games that I, I kick
myself on not 100% completing any of them.
I get close to them and I just don't do it.
But this one, well, I didn't play that much of the last game,
but this one, the setting is just so much more intriguing to
me. Really good.
Yeah, it is really good. Even on your stream through the
compression it looks really good.
Yeah, but wait till you see some of the other freaking levels in
there. It's just the the Biome changes,
then you've got snow, then you've got some aerial bits with
the cloud. It just.
Looks. It just looks.
You'll see it here. The game, like Playground games,
are so talented. They've got two big titles
coming out in the one year and they're completely different.
One's a racer, 1's a freaking RPG that is a classic title
that's taken over someone elses IP on and looks.
So what I've mentioned earlier about when we were talking about
just Xbox when, when it comes to like, say Elder Scrolls 6 and
how some people are kind of having that conversation now
about like, you know, these games coming from Korea, China,
just really taking over a lot of these genres and just making
the, you know, 'cause it's not just about Xbox, it's
PlayStation two. I mean, you've got games that
are coming out that, you know, rival a lot of what they do.
And so, so I mean, you got Phantom Blade coming out.
It's another Chinese game. I can't wait for that game.
And that game comes out just six days before Wolverine.
So I mean, it's not just Xbox that has to deal with this
stuff. It you've got another, a whole
bunch of players in the game coming from overseas that are,
that are doing their thing and these Western developers just
need to do better. It's not just Xbox, it's
PlayStation. It's it's a lot of these
different Western developers. It's not.
It's all publishers. And I love that competition
between the East and the West. I think it's it's tied to tie.
I know we have this long conversation about, you know,
game by game design by committee in the in the West.
And you know, all the game design has been dictated by by
bollocks. Whereas whereas with the East or
Far East Asia, they don't give a shit about that and they just
focus on the craft and that that has enabled them to really
bridge the gap and really exceed in many ways.
You're starting to see regions that we've never seen before,
like South Korea and China. That's a relatively recent
phenomenon where these guys are coming out there and producing
some dankness. So it's great.
And when you take and. It's awesome, yeah.
And this is amazing. This is the kind of stuff that I
want to see all of these publishers push even more the
their developers. I want to see these development
studios just do even more because it's coming, it's coming
from overseas now. They're doing the most and, and
I want to see the, the everybody push each other.
That's what competition is all about.
And yeah, like, dude it. I want to see what's best for
all of these studios. I I'm not talking crap, just
about, you know, Xbox or whatever.
I want to see the best out of all these studios from all these
companies. I just that that's it at the end
of the day, I'm the gamer, I'm the consumer.
I want more great games. Damn it.
That's it. That's.
All it's about for us. You know, absolutely I don't.
Care who it's from. It could have a big Xbox Studios
label on it, it could have PlayStation Studios.
It could have I don't Valve I I don't care.
Like just give me a great game. That's all I want.
Absolutely. And it's the environment that
fosters that kind of stuff, competition that fosters that
stuff. And it goes back to why we want
platform like exclusives, because it galvanises parties to
start really going out there. Because if PlayStation has no
real incentive to build games that are not really available in
its ecosystem, like Western RPGs or first person shooters like
Doom and stuff, it can sit back and rely on Call of Duty and
Doom and all these games coming out of there anyway.
Because PlayStation is the brand name.
It's like Kellogg's is there. It's the brand name in the
console space. If Xbox was to change that, that
would fundamentally re energise the industry.
We're like, all right, this trillion, remember, there's
still a trillion dollar company. I care, yeah, it's a business,
blah, blah, blah. But if they they've got all the
everything that we've been talking about, everything that
Xbox fans have been dying to see Xbox do, which is invest in
their bit, their studios, build all of that up and finally have
that stuff is fine. And this year represents it.
And there's such a shame that they capitulated at the peak
moment. That's the biggest irony behind
all of this, that they capitulated when everything was
set up for them. And that's why they should be,
in my opinion, from hardcore fans that instead of running out
there doing this shuffle to sock off the execs at the JW, Mario,
wherever you guys meet up, you need to fucking make sure that
you hold them to account. That, you know, really, if you
guys were, you know, I, you know, evangelising the brand and
are demanding this and that it's actually egregious that Xbox
used you during the ABK stuff and then completely left you to
dry as they catered for a PlayStation.
And not only that, coincided with their big updates for those
games when their PlayStation games released.
Well, guys, they were doing this because they were setting up
themselves to be everywhere. They were setting themselves up
to kill the console eventually. That's where the play was going
with them. They were setting every up
everyone up for PC style gaming and then hey, you know what, no
more console for us. The next generation.
You guys can move to PC or buy our games on PlayStation or
switch to what Switch 3, whatever it maybe.
But that's where that I really feel they were going.
And now with Asha in there, I can't tell you that that's going
to be the the case because Asha is kind of, you know, looking at
everything now. And, and when she came out and
said that she's trying to push the console first, that isn't
like in order to push the console directly, showing that,
you know, she's doing something different from she's.
Saying the right things, but phones I just I I I you.
Know it's, it's how they put how it plays out.
We have to see what she does to actually make this work.
Can she do it? I don't know.
It's a tall task, but it is a tall task.
But it was. Actually shocking.
It's obvious to me they needed, they needed new leadership.
Obvious. Now I I completely obvious.
I think it's it's, it's, it's actually incredible really how
people start to realise what's what's going on.
You know, Phil Spencer did great, Like he saved Xbox.
He will always give that credit that that's a huge thing.
You don't get to just like, like gloss over that.
That's big. But ultimately, clearly, his
energy waned. And it's, it is what it is like
the energy, Wayne, he got physically older.
He had to do this big battle. That's a $70 billion deal that
he had to withstand and all that pressure and scrutiny that came
with it. And now Asha Sharma, he was
like, so relieved. Just take you on.
I don't want to fucking deal with.
I want to play some games. And that's fair enough.
But at the same time, you know, it's funny because Satya Nadella
espouses how he actually, he's, he's enthused about how he
actually regrets Xbox were very quick to abandon the Zune and
the music space and abandoned the Windows Phone.
And you know, all of that, Like if you recognise Xbox's swift
exit in that space, you should have, there should be an element
of you having that pride in your company, in your brand, in the
gaming brand, because it's still in a unique, strong position
where so many people have so much passion for it.
Microsoft is a fucking faceless corporation, a trillion dollar
company that no one gives about in terms of its actual identity
as a brand. It's fucking useless and I'm
sorry, even in the space that it's good, it has everything, it
controls everything. There's we are all on Windows,
we are all on Outlook, we're all in the office suite.
We're that's what it is. It has a monopoly on this space
but and has no brand identity. But the Xbox thing where Asha
Sharma says I wanted to have the renegade spirit, saying those
words specifically will set off the Xbox guys who know about the
history of this brand because that renegade spirit gave birth
to this little island within Microsoft, Microsoft, this big
faceless Corp. But within it was this Xbox.
Xbox has its own identity. It had this and and they carved
it out. So it wasn't just supporting an
offshoot of a trillion dollar company.
That's Microsoft. It was it was its own thing.
And people want that to be coming back because it benefits
gaming as a whole, because we need to bring that back.
So of Azure as the XAI bod, and this is where my mind's like,
OK, XAI bot comes in, doesn't really know anything about
gaming and she's going to bring the changes and she's saying the
right things. Well, how is she going to
execute it? She's going to bring.
Back Any conversation from an Xbox exec with Satya Nadella
about bringing back exclusives is going to be a very difficult
one. When I heard the numbers, people
in there. I have to add something though.
I personally don't think timed exclusives work.
I I think that if they do exclusives, it's got to be
complete exclusive. Yeah.
Complete exclusivity because, well, it's a halfway house.
I really do believe that if if you have a platform in this
gaming space, I don't think you survive without exclusives
because every platform out there has exclusives.
People have this notion that like, oh, PC gaming doesn't have
a yes they do. Epic has Fortnite, one of the
biggest money making freaking games ever makes 5 billion a
year. OK if they didn't have that they
would not have that platform but they keep that exclusive because
then that's a money maker for them that's massive.
Like now of course again it goes out to other consoles and stuff,
I'm not saying that, but on PC itself they would not be able to
compete with Steam if it wasn't for their exclusives in the
they. Don't even survive steam,
they're just about hovering around to a survival because of
Fortnite. Without they wouldn't even
exist. Exactly, exactly.
And I believe that I think every platform within the gaming space
needs their exclusives. Absolutely they do.
You know, like IA lot of people keep saying that this is just
console war fodder and then you just want the brands to fight
and you and it's it's I'm sorry, but it's just not not the right
mindset. It's.
Not about fight, yeah, people always do that.
Or you just want a console war you.
Don't give a. Shit about console war.
I care about competition because competition breeds innovation.
That's it. Absolutely.
I I mean, you know, it does it you if say for instance, Xbox
became exclusive and their games didn't come out on play
PlayStation and you have one of the strongest years in gaming.
I know it's not happening. They already announced the
PlayStation versions, but Gears of War, Fable and Forza all just
available on PC and just Xbox consoles and you got next
console coming out. People will take notice and.
And think about this guys. Think about this.
You know how PlayStation folks always say, and they're right
about this by the way, they only concentrate on the 1 console.
So their games perform very well on that one platform, Xbox, they
do PC and freaking console. Now with this Helix, they're
basically going to be doing PC games.
That's it. Why, why spend the R&D to or
the, the port, you know, for the port process to go over to
PlayStation, Take that equation out.
You don't have to deal with that nonsense because look, they've
already had some issues with games crashing and everything
over there like it was Starfield lately.
It's because it's they have to deal with another porting
process, different platform. If they just concentrate on
their own, you have a much more refined product and I think
that's better for them in the long run.
I don't know. I've said this all the time.
I've just said that, you know, ultimately PlayStation Double
with PlayStation not making PC games for their single player,
catering for PC for their single player games.
So what do you think was going to happen to the quality of the
PlayStation games? Are they going to get worse?
Are they going to get better? They don't have to focus on a
multitude of different configurations for PC.
They only, they have one set of wires, they have multiple skews,
PS5PS5 Pro, but that's it. Obviously they're going to have
more time to optimise for the PlayStation and yeah, I get it,
you know, PC, you know, whatever, but you know for a
fact that just by just common sense dictates that by by them
not having to cater for a myriad of different configurations,
they're going to just be streamlining their single player
games to match their quality. And that's why it's support
PlayStation in in what they're doing, because they're taking
care of one their console user base first.
And that's why I bought a pro and I know Cyrus is going to run
really well and I know that Playstation's general quality
control has been great. So they don't have to worry
about PC. And when Xbox does the same
thing like you're saying, they don't have to factor in.
You know, the reason why Forza Horizon 6 isn't even out on
PlayStation day one is because they don't have the resources
just yet to to, to port that over.
So that itself should tell you this stuff takes time and money
costs time and money. Now take away the time and money
and focus on just your your OK already your mug.
It's slightly different in that Xbox has to cater for PC and you
when you start cater for a multitude of different
configurations. It'll be a lot more easier to
port for PlayStation I imagine just.
Well, let me ask you this though.
Like this is what I tell people a lot when they talk about how
like, Oh no, it doesn't matter if they don't have exclusives,
it won't do anything different for them.
And I asked him one simple question.
Let's say guys, name me an Xbox game that you love or franchise
that you love. OK, Fable.
OK, so Fable OK, Fable is exclusive to the Helix.
Yeah. Are you going to buy a Helix
because you love that franchise? Bro I bought most people is a
resounding yes like. I bought I bought APS 5 Pro.
Do you know why I bought it? Because of Soros, which is a
very neat game. I want to buy some.
Bro. And they won't do this.
They're not going to take games off of PC.
OK, I know that. So that's not happening.
But let's say they did and they said, hey, you can't play Gears
E day unless you have a Helix. Guess what I'm fucking doing?
Buying a Helix. Yeah, absolutely.
I'm buying a fucking Helix like a lot of gamers would do the
same if they if they really want to play a fucking game, they'll
buy the console, yes. And I and I get the people who
are like, Oh yeah, it's good for you to say, you know, everyone
can afford it, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Look, let's be let's be real about that.
Look, it may take me time to buy because I'm not rich like that,
but I'm just saying like you can stack away some cash here and
there to buy a console if you want.
I'm I'm just saying this, the the fact that you can buy a
console at all if you love a franchise, if you love a game or
if you just want to play something that looks really cool
to you and you need to play it. You're going to buy that
console. You're you're you're not going
to sit there and go, Oh, no, I would never.
I'll just I'll just wait, you know, and maybe play it one day
when it does go on something else years down the line.
They're not doing that. Most people aren't doing that.
I I think you're talking about creative space and people wanted
to talk about gaming as an art form, and I don't want the art
form to be compromised as a result of decisions that
ultimately just take away from it.
I know for a fact that competition is one of the four
foremost things that will make sure that people get get their
act together. And I take on the point of board
people like, well, everything is competing with everything
anyway. I'm like, that's fine.
But when you have platform holders really, really in this
very competitive space now galvanised to compete on A1, on
one level we've seen it, man. Freaking Forza.
Forza wouldn't even be exist dude.
Somebody tried that logic with me though.
By the way, Gas, somebody just was arguing with me the other
day in my comment section and they said fonts.
Well, if you're really into exclusivity, what if you were
told that GTA 6 was exclusive to the Switch too?
You know what I told them? As shitty as that is, I guess
I'm buying a Switch too, yeah? Yeah.
Absolutely, because. That's how much I want to play
the fucking game. That's just the type of gamer I
am. Like I'm going to buy whatever I
have to to play whatever I want to play.
Of course, if I could afford it at that time or whatever, But
I'm just saying like I'm going to go out and try to get
whatever it is I want to get my hands on to play.
I'm not going to let anybody stop me or tell me you shouldn't
play on that console. You shouldn't play like or any
of this fanboy console war nonsense.
Like it doesn't bother me. I'm I'm truly about the games
like, and I think a lot of people out there are, I think
despite your loyalty to a certain brand, if you really
wanted to play a game over on PlayStation, you'd buy a
PlayStation if it was stuck there, Yeah.
You would. A lot of people would look,
we've, we've lived through the environment when it was the 360
Gen, we we saw where, you know, when they were competing.
The whole PlayStation First party thing really came to
fruition as a result of the competition that Xbox 360
presents to them. They didn't even have that first
party stable. And look how positively it
impacted PlayStation, its perception of it as a brand and
what games it generated as a result.
And that's why look, Nintendo and PlayStation are doing it.
So why does the third plot 3rd place player that has repeatedly
lost the last two successive generations with the head of the
Xbox actually admitting that we lost the worst generation as a
result, blah blah blah. He's just literally come out and
said it, he's lost it. Why should we then take the, you
know, the convenient reframing of of the loser as the gospel
and I don't this is where you know, that's where the truth is.
And now Xbox guys are now it's so quick to with gave them a
little bit of hope and Ash has given them hope and that's what
it is hope in this map. I think that's the title of my
video. Hope.
They're so happy about it. Now Xbox gamers who really cared
about the the the brand, in my opinion, should be very loud and
vocal about the importance of exclusive team.
Make it known, even though it's very look, it's it's not, it's
not how the realm of possibility, but it's because
Xbox guys have and the the you know, in the small whatever
social media they've they, they they say they're negligible,
blah, blah, blah. No, it's not.
But because I believe it really does cascade down to everyone,
the sentiments of core gamers. But if it wasn't for so many
people just sucking off whatever Xbox did, I think we would have
seen a change. But ultimately it is.
But it it it look, we're going to have this conversation for a
while. It is the thing that is holding
back. You know what I think?
You know what I think happened though?
I, I think what happened is at one time, and even though I
think it started to stagnate, I think Game Pass was kind of
hitting certain numbers where they were really happy and
content with. And then when they threw in that
$30 price tag, I think a lot of people left the the ultimate
service. I think a lot of people left
millions. Yeah, millions.
I would say millions have left. Yes.
And, and so I think, I think that's what kind of steered him
the other way or or caused Asha to come in here and look at
things differently and go, hey, maybe the price structure isn't
right, but. No, no, it's not.
Maybe it's a definitely when she came out and said that it's it's
too expensive. It means millions left.
I'm I'm telling you. But the same point, but at the
same time, the reason why they did that was because of the last
two cards and and the fact that they lost almost a billion
dollars with those two on sales. They left it on the table.
We were talking about this. Before you joined the show and
I. So.
Should they leave? Should they I?
I think it's a no brainer but they should get rid of cod in
the. In the well.
In the service. No, well, I, I, I, I before any
of this conversation stuff happened.
I, I've had Tim Dog on my show months ago and he was talking
about this stuff and how he's heard that like Activision was
even told that the next cog probably wouldn't be in Game
Pass. And I was talking about this out
in the open on my show. For a while.
Now I look, I'm not so sure that that's exactly going to happen
that way. I think they might restructure
some things and do different tiers, but I think that most of
your day ones outside of COD should definitely still be there
at a cheaper price. If they do remove COD, for sure
it should be cheaper. And I know you had Jazz on last
week. He agreed with me too.
He was saying the same thing. It was because of COD.
And if they do remove it, it should be cheaper.
And here's the funny part Gaz, you know that some of the guys
in the community that defend Xbox to no end, these same
people are still defending saying no, why should they
decrease the price? It's fine at 30 even if they
remove COD. I don't care about you guys are
just too much like they're already starting that just in
case they don't decrease the price, they could be like, I'm
happy with it. I don't have a problem with it.
Like dude, they upped the price because of COD.
Like what? What are you talking about here?
They remove it, Yes, it should adjust accordingly.
I don't know what they're, you know, dude, I don't know what
these people are smoking, but it's it's not right.
Take the take a, they'll take an egg on the face for cod, you
know, coming off the service, but at the same time.
They could have a service where they remove cloud, keep cod,
maybe even reduce the price just a little bit because cloud is
not cheap. Hargit stresses this all the
time. He's convinced that cloud has
increased that price to a specific degree that it, it's,
it's just too much for, for how many people actually use it.
And I, and I think I'm in agreement with them.
If it's really a costly thing, why have cloud in every tier?
Why not remove cloud? My only concern about this kind
of stuff is that they've got so many tears and gets a little bit
convoluted. And I just like the messaging
already is really kind of vague for the, for the masses.
Like they still haven't permeated the masses.
I, I, I'm sorry, but the Netflix of games, like, I mean, they
have a collaboration with Netflix.
Part of my theory is that they would they get to say that
because that itself would be really good messaging.
It's like the Netflix of games, but the, the, you know, mum and
dad and your regular, you know, parents of the masses don't know
about game plus still to this day.
Obviously the price hike just made it even worse.
And you know, now you have to go back.
You do such an uphill battle. Xbox keeps undoing itself.
Even the game Pass was the most what really was the best value
in gaming as a subscription service was it was, it was
incredible. And then you, you killed it by
being a price hike in. You need to have a thorough
revision. Xbox needs some major changes
and those changes are coming with Xbox Game Plus.
Ashley Sharma has literally told you it's too expensive.
I just, I just don't know exactly how they're going to be
changing what they did. Become and yeah, and having the
Xbox first party only tier, I think that would be amazing.
Yeah, and then like adding the extra stuff, like the Ubisoft
thing that isn't really day one and like the Fortnite, yeah,
that that needs to go. There's no reason to have that
'cause I'm sure that that's an extra couple of bucks there.
Yeah, you know, they're special get.
Rid of that shit. Man, exactly.
No one cares. No one cares about that shit.
I I who's used it like let me. I've heard, I've heard some Xbox
guys try to say they use it all the time.
I love everything they've added. I use it all the time.
Fortnite crew. Oh me and my kids use it all the
time. I'm like bro, come on.
I mean, OK, finally they may use it.
Let me say, have you use the Fortnite is the four years of
Fortnite Ubisoft shit and Fortnite crew on Xbox game pass?
Let me ask. That one pump man.
Yes I did say that I would buy a switch to if GTA 6 was exclusive
to that platform. Yes I would buy one.
Yeah, 100%, as shitty as that would be that they would do that
to me, Rockstar, I I would still do it because I want to play
GTA6. Bro you're doing it with console
already because they're not releasing on PC day one and
you'll probably. Back to two games, I have APS 5
Pro because I still play exclusives on console and a 4090
that I prefer to play on. But if you pull something off
the 4090 and put it on a console, I'm going to get that
console. Sorry, that's just the way I
roll. I don't know.
No, haven't you? You're right.
Smash the smash the like button people.
If you think Xbox is a flexbox, I know what that means, but.
Oh my God, you sounded totally like Colt Eastwood right there.
I just was making some words of. That the flexbox.
The flexbox. There will be a flexbox with
that price tag I imagine will be like 1500 or some shit.
I think it's going to be expensive as fuck, but if it's
good quality and you you start, you know yeah, you I like that.
You know, if you told me the old, you know the way the
industries worked, if you told me the younger gas hey, Xbox
going to release this like hybrid beast device and and it's
catering for the hardcore with this price price point, I'd be
like fucking yes, yes, do it. The only point problem is, is
exclusivity strategy. That's the thing that's
completely undoing the the scope of Xbox to become something more
than just another third party publisher.
That's just meandering and surviving.
And Xbox, these and Microsoft need to recognise that they have
they're sitting on a goldmine in terms of long term if they have
any kind of creative vision. And again, I'm pessimistic.
I don't think they'll do AU turn and they'll be most likely timed
exclusive, maybe maybe not even that.
And you know, I don't expect them more for them, but the
buttons on them to discharge. I feel like I would be stupid to
have faith in Xbox at this point to to do right.
They always if they're anything you can guarantee the rake
stepping is is almost it's like night and day it will happen.
It's like death and taxes. It's guaranteed.
Dude did. Did you see the disingenuous
conversations going on on Twitter?
People were upset at Xbox because they didn't put a
PlayStation logo on the Metro 2039 showcase.
They just showed their own logos.
And I'm like, well, this is exactly what PlayStation has
done forever. But.
They were annoyed that Xbox. Yes, there was people annoyed by
it on Twitter and they were arguing with people like why are
they doing this? Why?
Why are they? Why are they being disingenuous
and just showing their own logo that we know it's coming out for
PlayStation? I'm like.
Has done this. Strategy forever and we've been
saying that Xbox should do the same bro like the logos is a
logo well I'll be honest with you it's.
Ridiculous when Jeff Keeley was allowed to announce the Xbox
the. PlayStation version of Indiana.
Jones, but the game hadn't even come out for Xbox.
That was seen as a massive L massive L, So this is basically
an extension of that. A PlayStation doesn't show
Xbox's logos, but Xbox rushed out there with show PlayStation
logos, which is lame. And they haven't done that
forever. I mean, I remember even in the
with the PS4 they were doing that with Destiny.
And people thought that Destiny was exclusive to PS4 because of
the marketing deal they had with them and they never showed an
Xbox logo. Absolutely, yeah.
I mean, look, the masses don't look.
They are. I I made a post about this
PlayStation. Are so conniving with the way
they they show the PlayStation exclusive I remember a post good
years ago where they basically laundered but it looked like
they were they were PlayStation exclusives and Xbox yeah yeah
there are so many casuals out there who saw that metro 2039
thing and honestly think it's just on.
Xbox, yeah, no, which is a play for these businesses and it's so
fucking it, it's stupid to cry. About it, it's like.
Sony has done it forever. I'm glad I didn't see that shit
but that's so so lame. I didn't see the.
In fact, it's the first time ever now.
I've. Never played the Metro games so
I've not played. I've not seen.
I've never seen the trailer Metro.
The last Metro was really good. I need to play that because it
looks amazing. When it came.
Out on the 1X man it it was so. Freaking beautiful.
I remember just. Playing through that game, just
in awe of that, just the way it looked.
This one looked incredible, too. I'm looking forward to it.
Yeah. So I haven't seen it yet.
So I know a lot of people are really hyped about it.
Put up the the trailer. It's playing right now.
It's the CGI trailer. I don't know if there's any
gameplay. In this but no there I saw.
Gameplay. Not in the Maybe it wasn't the
trailer. It was the stuff they were
showing at the very. End OK, maybe I might, I might,
I might show up in a SEC of the showcase.
There's gameplay, CGI cutscene playing.
Here looks pretty dark. There's always been a really
dark game, I. Wonder if it has ray tracing in
this game chat if you let. Me know if it has ray tracing or
better yet path tracing. PS support because the games
always looked really good. Really really dark.
I feel like it's a game that I would really like.
Don't even imagine if you had a like talking about the logo
thing. Imagine if you had a little
store, right? And you were selling a product
that was sold everywhere, but not maybe it's a brand new
product, maybe not. A lot of people know you're not
going to be advertising Joe's Smack and Shack and they sell it
too. You know, you're not going to be
putting that out there with this product like you're going to say
you can get this anywhere, guys. It's not just here.
Like I get what these businesses do.
It's just it, it, it was the conversation that I saw between
some PlayStation guys and Xbox guys.
I was like, you guys are really mad that the Xbox did the same
thing that Sony's been doing forever.
Oh my God, it's, it's so odd to me.
It's, it's just, it's just sad. It's it's how much money?
Do companies pay just for marketing rights?
They're just marketing it to make people think it's
associated with that platform Sony and but I was creaming
themselves over the prospect of PlayStation, which should most
likely get the marketing deal for Rockstarz game GTA6.
You think that makes that's a people pay will pay millions
upon millions of millions not wrong.
There was people at casuals about Playstations thinking that
Hogwarts Legacy was. Yes, yes, absolutely.
Because of the marketing deals, it happens.
I have these conversations all the.
Time with. With like, you know, the
casuals, they will say. Oh is it on Xbox as well?
I saw a trailer on that. I thought it was just a
PlayStation game. That happens all the freaking
time. I see that argument all the time
and that and XX boxes has to drop the whole kumbaya act
because you can see that it's just so counterintuitive to not
only their own platform but it's also the perception of it and
you know it's working for the other two players are not doing
it so why on earth would you get so dumb?
Same thing Sony still buys they still money hat third parties.
They they tried the. Money hat Crimson Desert.
Oh, they did. They tried the money hat that
game. Yeah, imagine if they had.
Holy shit this game looks. Amazing.
Doesn't it? It looks freaking incredible.
The fuck this game looks? Insane there's got to be PC.
Gameplay or something? That no dude, it looks good.
On. Even on the 1X, the old game.
I need to freaking play these games now.
Why have I not played them? Yeah, you need, you need to play
it. Are they janky or what I felt
like? They might be janky.
No, they're they're really. Good.
The I would say the last. One was the better one.
The first two had a little jank here and there but they were
still solid games. Damn man this game looks
freaking amazing. The visuals are insane.
Obviously there's a lot of canned.
OK, there's a little bit of cinematic.
Oh, I thought that was in game. It said a mix of in game and
cinematic. That's in game, man, that's
Bullshot. But it still looks really good.
You can tell when it's going through the tunnels and
everything and. You're shooting it looks really
good. Alright, I'll go forward by this
and imagine that on your old LED monitor, bro.
Yeah, imagine that in the old. I'll be the judge.
I'll be the judge of that. Whether or not that's real or
not, I feel like they might be pulling the wall of.
Their eyes. Xbox first party shows the logos
because they want you to buy the game.
So why would they exclude third party?
It's hypocritical and rules for for for thee but not for me.
What? Paris Lewis says.
Xbox first party shows the logos because they want you to buy the
games, so why would they exclude that party?
It's hypocritical and rules for thee were not for me.
Yeah. Oh it's hypocritical of Xbox not
show metro metros stuff. I mean Xbox doesn't even do it.
Shouldn't really do that anyway. In PlayStation they don't even
bother putting up Xbox logos. It's actually quite funny.
And Xbox Live now please I will do it.
Kumba. Yeah, by Lord, what was this
poll night? 82% of you.
Have said that you don't use the SO.
Look at that. That's a lot.
And Fortnite crew on Game Pass. Yeah, you know, like I know.
I don't know anyone who does. I don't know anyone.
Apart from the special nick, he says, his kids.
Use it a lot. Which is OK, fine, but I don't
know what what the play plays are.
We saw Metro. We have to.
Talk about pragmata. It's another game that's come
out of Capcom. Just don't miss man.
They're just so Capcom seems to be killing it lately.
Bro they're they're on fire. RE-9 was incredible.
This one I I. I mean you've you've completed
RE. 9 as well, didn't you? Yeah, I I completed RE 9.
I thought it was definitely a game.
Of the year contender, yeah. Shit man, really good.
I need to complete Carlos before I can even go into that.
Because. Yeah.
Another horror game like that everyone's like you need to play
you know requiem. It just looks dank.
This is another one Capcom was just killing it.
So many people share Luke was telling me about the path
tracing on this is insane. The game looks insane.
I'm so grateful for path tracing not being relegated to I
remember the start of the Gen I'm looking at Minecraft and I'm
like fuck is that it like it's this this is real.
This is real fucking ray tracing tech and it's relegated to just
my Minecraft and now we're starting.
To see with these AI. Upscaling tools, the frames and
all the shit that we can actually finally enjoy path
tracing in with big heavyweight titles like Cyberpunk with
Pragmata. Resident Evil us looks looks
amazing. It looks so this game looks
really cool. I don't know if I have the time
to play this game, man. I don't even know what it is,
but it looks really good and it's saying, I think it's like
88 or 87. It's basically a story driven,
heavy story driven shooter. I played the demo for it and I'm
in the minority. I don't care for the combat
system and that's only because, well, they have this little
hacking thing you do before you can really do much damage with
your weapon. You could shoot your weapon and
it it's like pissing on the enemy.
It's it doesn't hardly any damage.
But then the the little girl on your back, she does this like
thing where it slows down time and it's a hacking thing.
So you like hack it and then you can shoot heavier bullets.
Oh, right. This is a bit of a yeah.
And I just don't care about the hacking portion of it.
Like it just it annoyed me. But some.
People love it. So I, you know, don't listen to
me. I'm in.
I'm in the minority on this one. No, I I don't know what to
expect of this one. This is a game that we've been
covering for a while. It looks really nice.
It's beautiful. Yeah.
Well, you know, I'm sure with Pat Racing it's going to look
even more. Stunning the whole the setup.
Just looks. Like unique and you know, yeah,
see CPT in the Awesome 23. He said the combat is fun, he
likes the hacking and stuff. I just don't like that aspect.
It's just, I don't know, just takes me out of it bro.
We've got so many good games now though.
It's like not every game has to appeal for everyone.
No, no. No, but you know, like I said,
RE 90, man, that thing was so much fun.
How was the combat in that? Really good, really solid man
and. It looked amazing dude.
And, and moreover, the the performance, the performance on
your PC so good. And yeah.
And that that this is, this is their own engine, isn't it?
It's not UE5, it's the RE. Engine.
Yeah, yeah. So you know, this is it's it's
RERE 9 is. Short and sweet.
Magnum, thanks for telling me that.
That makes it go up really high in my priority of games to play.
Dude, you can definitely play through that in the weekend.
Bro. Is it?
Oh, wicked. Yeah, I need.
More games like that. I need four games and and it's
exactly. The kind of game you like too.
Just a linear experience, you know.
It's fun, lot of fun man, lots of cool weapons and things like
you know, because you've got, you've got 2 elements of it.
We I know we're supposed to talk about Programmata, but you've
got 2 elements of. That game you've obviously got
Grace is a bit, but it's much slower.
Yeah, it's more horror, yeah, which I like.
I want them to do that a little bit of.
So the cool part about that is. I'm more of a third person guy.
And I tried to play it in 3rd. Person with her and it was
better in first person because of the whole aspect so with her
I played first person. They recommended the beginning
of the game too. They tell you so I played it in
first person with her and 3rd with Leon and it was just
fantastic. Capcom, Capcom are killing it.
They're really doing well, and there was a point where they
were almost like the. Konami off of the game industry,
they're really they're really just messing up.
They fixed up so well from their St.
You have to remember, like this year, the Monster Hunter.
I know I think Monster Hunter didn't do as well as they should
have. I'll be honest, based on the
reception for it and they had tech issues and blah, blah,
blah, but they had Street Fighter.
My brother's just streaming that all the time now.
Street Fighters watching our board.
Street Fighter. Yeah, Street Fighter.
Go ahead, trailer. This first movie looks super
cheesy. But.
Oh God that movie looks so bad. We expect the cheese now.
The original was so bad. With Banderos, yeah, that's why.
It's like you expect the. Cheese with it, I guess.
And about, you know, Mortal Kombat the.
New movie that trailer. This gives me shit as well.
I hated the last Pragmatic though is the quality is really
there like when I played through the demo.
That's the one thing like it's beautiful.
It's it feels good. It's just a hacking element for
me. If it wasn't for that one
element, I would I would have bought this game.
I would have played it all the way through because it's my type
of game. I like the the heavy on story
game and I heard it's got a great story.
Oh, right. OK, that's interesting.
They have got great stories. The main thing that I kind of
will drive me they've. Got this whole thing with the
the little robo girl in there. It reminds me of that movie
where that chick AI kid. What was that movie chat?
It came out a couple of years ago.
Really good movie. I think it just went under the
radar where AI are fighting humans and there's this one kid
who's the AI they gave birth to this kid, AI kid and he's like
really smart. It was really good movie.
I like the premise of that. And then Ubisoft, well, Ubisoft,
Capcom have Anamusha coming out. I don't know what that's coming
out. Yeah.
That was another one that I saw last week.
I was, I forgot about that game. And then I I was talking to.
Hargeet about all the games coming out this year and I, I
told him, I said, dude, I was looking up all the games that's
supposed to drop. I said we totally dropped the
ball on Anamusha too. Like this game looked incredible
and it's coming out and dude, and again, Capcom is killing it.
It's not Megan killing it lately.
It's not Dune or it's. Not.
Megan Yeah, Capcom killing it man.
When is on a mission coming? Out it doesn't have a a specific
date. Oh is it just says 2026?
It says 20. 26 as well. Fuck.
That no chance they're gonna delay that nowhere.
How? This is what I'm saying, like
there's so many games, I don't know.
How all these games are coming out this year dude.
Bro how are you gonna navigate GTA6?
All these games I don't. Know bro, I remember the you
know a lot this weekend we had some rumours suggesting that.
So, Jeff? Jeff Grubb got it wrong with him
suggesting that fable's going to get delayed.
But as soon as they announced that fable's going to get
delayed to me and you were like, you know what?
This is a good thing because I was like, this is good.
Yeah, it's too much. Yeah, It's too much that Xbox
games need some breathing space. Yeah, yeah.
I wanted to see Fable. Do do better and I think the
coming out next spring it. Would do much better, yeah,
because the even putting it in August or September you've got
so. Many games there that that.
Will over shadow Fable. It is insane.
You can't have a game that overshadows us Fable.
There's too much investment. In that game.
It's not like that's a it's like that Horizon 0 dawn effect.
Remember Horizon 0? Dawn got overshadowed.
And then Horizon Forbidden W got overshadowed.
Still sold well eventually, but I remember that first week.
Yeah, they were both overshadowed on their launch
dates. Yeah, Whippet got it right.
The Creator. I think you're right.
The Creator is the movie. I was thinking of Creator.
I don't know that it's a It's a really good.
Yeah, it's the creator. Yeah, it's a really good movie.
Do check it out. I'll have to check.
It out it's really cool. It's.
Really good effect. sci-fi movie.
Sci-fi movie? Yeah, really good.
Effect it's it's. Really good.
Is this really good one of those?
I'll look it. Up.
I'll look it up. Yeah, so.
You know, you're right with the fable like delay thing.
It's I agree with you, I. Think it's it's a good problem
to. Have, you know, you used to say
Xbox has no games. Now Xbox has too many games.
You know, that's AI. Hope that carries on and I think
next. Year is also maybe.
Not as strong as this year because they I wouldn't say
that, man. Because dude, think about this.
Think about this. Man, look at we just talked
about how these Chinese and and Korean you got all these eastern
players in the game now dude, Wu Kong was a few years back game
science could announce something this year.
Who knows like you know, anything could happen game it
was what's it called? Oh, that's right.
They had the Yeah, that's right. But anyways, you got so many
players in the game. I I bet you anything, like I
said, I feel good about this year with unannounced things.
I think we're going to see this at the the Summer Games Fest.
There must be a sequel. Sorry.
Yeah, Xbox Game Showcase and stuff.
We're going to see some new stuff.
That's we're going to be like what?
2027, man, next year's going to be great too.
I I guarantee it. We're going to be excited.
Well, if they announce if, if, if it turns out that, What's it
called? What a Elder Scrolls?
Sorry I can't speak if Elder Scrolls.
Was is is coming out next? Year then that conversation
shifts straight away. That is a big title big title if
Elder Scrolls coming out next year.
I don't know if it's going to come out next year, but I I'll
tell you what it's going to be good.
But here's the thing. Don't you think that if going
back to Helix, if Helix really does?
Drop end of 2027, don't you think they need a really big
game to drop with it? Bro this is the reason why I
said Gears of War should fucking be delayed for the release of
that thing because you want to something that shows off the
power of this. Thing that's supposed to be
really powerful. What better game that Xbox has
coming out in its road map than Gears of War?
Gears of War will be the best looking I know, especially
because the Coalition and what they can do with UE5.
That's what I'm saying like. There's no rush for gears for
this year. Like what are you doing?
And again. 2020 fifth anniversary.
You know they're going to put it out this year about fuck the
25th anniversary, man. Well, I just want the game.
To be good and ultimately at the end of the day, but you know it
would have. Been really cool like any
platform. I know the generations the whole
thing is dead anyway but it's always good.
PlayStation are really good at this.
PlayStation with the PS3, no PS3 but they have launched with PS3.
PS4 they have Killzone, Shadowfall.
Not great game but even today to this day technical showcase Xbox
One still to this day had a really good launch with Rye Son
of Rome that still holds its own to this day and at least showed
you the tech of that thing. It's like it'll still looks
good. It holds.
Don't worry, Helix will drop with State of Decay 3.
By the way, I did get into that alpha you did.
Yeah, yeah. I'm not in it.
Yet. But I, I did sign up and they
sent me an e-mail and said that maybe in May I'll get in.
I want to play that. So I feel like it might be a bit
of a let down. I think already the scope of it
is a bit let down, but the clockwork revolution.
I just want to see. I just want to see what it's
like. I want to see what it's like so
I can talk about, you know, eventually and the.
People complaining, I remember in the chat, you know, last time
we talked about. Like.
Oh, guess you're just way you. Want.
State of Decay. We want more State of Decay to
be State of Decay. I'm like State.
I want State of Decay to be a multiplayer game, man.
Yeah, same bro. We've talked about this.
We we wanted it to be more like an MMO than it is.
It's just kind of it's where you would see an evolution of a game
like that. Yeah, honestly, yeah.
Kind of like the day before that fake game that you're supposed
to get, but the promise was there that like The Division and
so many people. Did.
Come out and say that. Oh damn it man, I was hoping it.
Would be like the division. But with zombies and stuff like
that and everyone wants that and someone has to make that game.
They're sitting on a goldmine. It's a multi $1,000,000 seller
that will multiple copies. That game exists conceptually,
it needs to be made. It's not saved to K3
unfortunately, especially if you add those resources, you know,
even the base, all that you have, all that.
Because that's something that traditionally you don't have
with like a division or you don't have with an R graders.
But if you added that element into it along with the human
element and the zombies, you have a winner.
You have a freaking winner. That again, I say this a lot,
but the blueprints are out there for great games.
These developers just need to look at and tweak these, you
know, games a bit, make something their own.
But man, the blueprints for a fantastic, successful game are
out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, honestly, it's, I mean, look what Pearl Abyss did.
Pearl Abyss just said. F it with Crimson.
Desert. They took everything good from
every. Other RPG out there, Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Big open world.
They just took everything. Yeah, yeah.
From Zelda to freaking every game out there, they just took
bits and pieces. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know, I don't know, rain on people's parade there, but.
I will rain on people's parade there I.
Think I will be. Disappointed I think it will be
a good State of Decay game in the same as State of Decay 2.
I barely play State of Decay 2 because I'm so disappointed in
State of Decay two. What it was they gave you the
promise of what that was going to be with State of Decay one.
I remember very clearly and it couldn't tell the difference
between State of Decay two and one other than the multiplayer
which is tethered to shit. It looked the same and then they
did the visual upgrade on the graphics and then it looks a
little bit different and now there's it just the whole we're
going to give you the play test and stuff like that.
I feel like it's not going to be that great.
So it's gone down my hype metre considerably.
And so that being the alpha play test after six years, it's kind
of like what? Yeah, Yeah, it's a bit.
It's. Hard, really I am.
I feel I'm going to be let down with that, but you know.
It is what it is. I keep saying it is what it is,
but State of Decay too though Captain Chats, I see you say it
was a let down for you too. I agree.
But a lot of people did play it, though.
A lot of people did play State of Decay, too.
The numbers are out there. It was, it was kind of a hit for
them. Yeah.
No. State of Decay has a very, like
loyal fan base as well. So you know it's.
Not something that, you know, easy for them to disregard by
making massive change like that. But at the same time, I think
you're like, what's your ambition, really?
And you put a ceiling on that if you're going to just stick to
State of Decay. But I'll tell you one game that
has a lot of quality being exuded, but there's stuff for
everyone but Clockwork Revolution.
I think this game is going to be really good.
I think this it looks like it's going to be a lot of fun,
especially with a different weaponry and how you can like
mix and match. You know, craft and all that
stuff. Yeah, we should see on screen.
Looks cool. It looks really good.
It reminds me because it it again for me though.
It it Harkins. Back to like.
A Bioshock. Type game, every everyone's
there and I have a fond memory of those games.
So yeah, BioShock Infinite kind of vibes with this visual.
Yeah. And I loved Bioshock, and it has
that kind. Of personality, He's just really
good. Like he this is a game that if
they nailed the gunplay, oh, this is if it feels really good
to shoot, it's going to be a great game.
Especially with the time bending stuff, Yeah, this could be a
really, you know, a diamond. For Xbox and a really, you know,
another unique proposition for Xbox to have this kind of title
out there. This is the kind of title that
helps Xbox build an identity and all that's undone if you're
making freaking multi platform your mother.
So yeah, yeah, the Xbox is finally where it needs to.
Like imagine. If this was like a 99.
OK, I I know. It's a 99.
Also coming to PlayStation for six months.
Yeah, exactly. No, all day and day on
PlayStation. Yeah, it's gonna.
I I think this is definitely this probably will be a day one
on PlayStation. Actually, I'm.
Imagining this will be a day one.
Title 4 PlayStation yeah, because it's coming from a
smaller studio in exile, but in exile are really punching above
their belt based on what we're seeing.
Obviously we haven't played the game, but it looks positive.
So clockwork revolution is another one.
State of decay. I'm like OK fine.
That'll be 2027 release. I think 2027 needs an Xbox from
a big title From Xbox though, I think you need Elder Scrolls and
and I feel like Elder Scrolls are we are we for sure that
clockwork is When is clockwork 20?
Early 2027? I don't.
Know when it has a release? I don't think it has a release
because I think it's just 2027 now.
Chad, do you guys know? When clockwork does clockwork?
Revolution have an an indicative date I don't.
Know if it does? I don't think it does.
I think it was just 2027. Yeah, I don't know clockwork in
in. Exile, you guys are making some
memes there and that's the kind of quality.
Mark, we do. Expect but then after that what
else is there? Like what does Xbox have?
What's Compulsion doing? Maybe they can make a huge game.
Yeah, fucking right. Everyone.
Everyone hates on those for hating on.
Compulsion, but I. Really think people glaze over.
I know the story and this premise was really good, but
what about? The gameplay.
After we happy few, you cannot forgive them for faltering on
gameplay like they did. Gameplay cannot be 4th priority.
Story, music, everything and gameplay.
Let's think about game design at the end.
I'm like bro this is what they're doing.
The first game I remember from them was when I first bought my
PS4 last. Gen and it was contrast and it
was an awful game. It was it was horrible.
It was just a stupid game. So I didn't even play through
it. I I tried to play it and I said
this is garbage because at the time, but if you remember,
PlayStation 4 didn't really have any big games they got they had
they were delayed. So I had to wait like a month or
two before I got like my first big game PlayStation 4.
So I after that I just went to rezo gun and I played a bunch of
rezo gun and that was fun. But tourney game rezo gun Rezo
gun was not made by them. Rezo gun was made by No Rezo gun
wasn't by compulsion. I'm.
Saying I, I. Moved to that game.
From Contrast. Oh, right, Yeah, Rezo.
Gun is a game. I actually was good a platinum
though it was my first platinum. I really.
Really enjoyed that. Yeah, that's why I.
I love that studio house, Mark. Oh, beautiful, man.
They are the best, some of the best, and Sony did very well by
buying them. And I'm one of the few people
that will probably support that game because I don't know if I
think it will do well, but compulsive games have a lot to
answer for. But I think I'll tell you what
compulsive games are good at and what South of Midnight was
really good at. Story, audio, visual palette was
really nice. They really smashed it.
I completed the game and I, it was the combat.
Yeah, I just, I just, I couldn't get by the combat.
Combat. The area locks off.
And then you have this basic combat.
And I found it so I felt like I wanted to just see what the
story was about more than the game.
Play the game. The combat was getting in my
way. And there were ways like even
with traversal, like with the war running and stuff like that,
if you made Ebb and Flow really well, I would have really loved
the game because it's a beautiful game.
Yes, it is beautiful. The art star was really good.
The characters are really well voiced.
They've. Done it, really.
I was intrigued. I wanted to find.
Out what's going on with the story really tapped into the
story, but you can't fuck up the story, the gameplay, especially
when you have such a burden to discharge after we're happy for
you, but it was a beauty like it was a beautiful experience.
The story and stuff. I really did care about the
characters and and the vibe and the music was really good.
I just felt like the fundamentally it's such a shame.
It's like you that's the thing you need to fix up.
And I think in the same regard, the same issue with Ninja Theory
and Hell Blade 2. Although with Hell Blade two in
one element, the combat I thought was fucking amazing.
It felt wrong for Xbox for an Xbox title to have such good
animations in their combat. Like if you play their combat,
it was beautiful man. The combat in that game was
stunning, but it was so few far between.
I was just like, so I was like, all right, so the one thing
don't make me stab you on that, dude.
That game was just bad for a game.
It was beautiful as. A piece of art, but man, there
was not enough gameplay in that game.
I agree with you. I do agree with you.
I think of a hell blade too. I was, I was shocked at how and
I. Said this in my review and I
said like you need to thoroughly revisit how you you you, you
basically do gameplay. I'm shocked that you still had
the same fucking puzzles elements like move the camera.
Well, they're on Hellblade 3 now, and supposedly they've
stated that they're going to put more.
Action into this. Yeah, I I reckon Hellblade 3 is
going to be sick. You're going to call me?
Call me out now if it's not. If it doesn't end up being this.
Way I reckon this game is going to be absolutely stunning.
Dude. They've made great action games
in the past. They hadn't.
They had. The the Heavenly Sword, I I
loved Heavenly Sword. It was like a female God of War
game. It was really good.
Yeah, it was amazing. I don't know what that's what
I'm saying. They had all this talent.
They did all that mocap, they kept show which is where but.
Shows in the yeah, but shows in the fucking animations and
stuff. But yeah, I know they took MMA
classes and stuff, and I'm like, for what?
Well, they did a really good job.
Whatever little combat there was in that game, Hell Blade 2, I I
really. I didn't.
I really enjoyed my time with their funds, I'll be honest with
you, but I, no, I know you did. I know you did.
I, I played through the whole thing and I was just like really
bored. I was like, it's.
Beautiful. But damn all I'm doing is
pressing up to walk 90% of the time right at the start of this
segment. Here you are literally pressing
up for a good 5 minutes and I'm like oh.
What was it like? I was, I was, I was entranced by
the visuals. I this is cinema grade visuals,
like the the cinematics that the the techniques that they use.
This was, you know, this film studios use what if not the best
looking game I've ever played even now.
And it is it is one of the best looking games period.
Yeah, it's incredible. It's beautiful, captain.
Chat says so, hell blade 2 was terrible and they've.
Greenlit Hell blade. Three, but we get perfect dark
cancelled look perfect dark wasn't even a thing though they
they made-up that little portion that little slice that we saw
that was all made-up that wasn't gameplay they didn't have a game
that's the fucking most egregious thing ever though a a
lot of. That was all bullshit.
Quadruple. Studio Quadruple a studio.
And they, they made nothing, they made nothing, they made
nothing. And then they just fucking.
Got. Abolished like it was just.
Dude, the story. Of that, just they need to make
a documentary on that. Just there's a story.
What happened to what were they called in Not in Exile, The
initiative? What were they called?
The initiative I want to see from inception to fucking how it
was destroyed. And part of that.
You can kind of see along the way, remember, they had all
these, like, really big, talented people that they took
from other studios, and they were calling themselves a small
and agile studio, which is a great thing, right?
But then you had this guy bring in everybody from Crystal
Dynamics to come out. And then that's when you saw the
shit hit the fan. You were like, wait a minute,
they're not a small and agile team anymore.
Yeah. And what's going on here?
Everyone's like, they're an incubation studio.
They're going to be building, say, here a little bit here and
there, and then Crystal Dynamics going to come in and help.
There was a pitch to actually save the the and buy out the IP
and then Microsoft said no, Oh no, it's not interested.
So it's just, I would really like to see the story on that
though. What?
What really happened bro? I'll tell you what the story
that I was talking to a developer.
When I was at GDC about who worked at the cancelled.
Bethesda online game that they were working on, the Cyberpunk
fucking third person game that apparently was amazing.
Zenermax online game, sorry. And it was, what was it called?
I forgot the name of it and the guy was telling me the stories
about how good the game was and how developers were like they
had some teething issues but Phil Spencer had to be pulled
away. He was enjoying it so much and
then they freaking cancelled it and they couldn't believe it.
And it was all because of AI, the Xbox, I'm sorry, Microsoft
pursuing AI and copilot. They they pulled the rug and
then they're the, the, the. The amount of bad blood that
generated is insane to this day. Matthew Ward.
Matthew Ward, thank you so much for the $5 super checkers Fonz
in the house. Got to catch up on the pod when
I get home. Gaz is my goat.
This is becomes legendary with Fonz.
Much loved brother Matthew. Matthew, I'd love to appreciate
you. Matthew.
I appreciate that. Such nice words.
I found that when a lot of people say of my podcast, they
actually prefer to listen to it after.
The fact I think it's. Because I meander so much of or
my ADHD so crazy, when the time stamps are up they probably list
a whole new of the specific topics that they want to listen
to. But, Matthew, thank you so much.
It's really nice. Really nice for you.
Yeah. So, you know, you know, this is
what I'm saying. Look, hey, Xbox, it's a it's
it's a tale of two fucking tales.
There's so much scope, so much excitement for it and so much
like in it's landscape. We've talked about so many
things I could show off and this year and in 2027 and what the
going on with the it's, it's the most exciting player in the
space. But it's, oh, you know what
other game you forgot about? I just, it just hit my mind and
I had to cut you off because I'm 50 and I will forget.
Blade What's going on with Blade?
Like I want to see, I want to see more Blade.
No, no, right bro. Apparently it's coming out
really well. That's what I'm hearing.
I. Obviously that will be the judge
of that, but Blade is another fucking sick one, actually a
complete because that will be my most anticipated when I've all
those games. Actually, it'll be my number one
out of all of them. If they do, I know that we've
what we've seen is in that kind of comic book art style, not.
Necessarily a realistic look, which I would prefer.
A real look I would. I would prefer that for a blade
title, but. Because this this is still.
Mature, it could still be a good game and I just want to.
See more of. It can.
Leon bounces as well. I love arcade.
Leon I love, I love arcade Leon putting a stand on the whole.
Microsoft and what they were doing politically.
So I was like rape them. They were out there protesting.
I was like you bounces. But also, yeah, I do agree with
you though. Like is it going to be just like
weird comic book site? I want to look, I think Blade, I
think Wesley Snipes, I think Viners.
It could be a situation where you get like a great looking
South of. Midnight style look not
necessarily South of midnight, but you know what I'm saying?
Like a great art style but with really good combat.
You might hit that here. Like the if they nail the combat
I could. Care less, you cannot fuck up
blade. You cannot fuck up Blade.
You cannot take on an IP like this and fuck it up.
I'm sorry. Yeah, people.
And it's a Marvel licence thing and Xbox has it.
Like you can't fuck it up. Blade is bro.
The very first Blade movie is one of my favourite Marvel
flicks. I love Wesley State.
For me blade 2 was better. I love blade.
Oh no I like blade one. Blade 1 was so fun.
I like them both, but blade 1 was.
Superior in my opinion. I loved it.
Dude, that first scene in the club with the raining blood and
everything. Oh so good.
Was that blade one? I thought it was blade two.
Yeah, no, that was Blade 1. It might be confusing.
I'm not confusing. Yeah, you might be confused by
it. Actually, but blade, blade,
blade. Two had a club scene.
Blade 2. Had Ethan Hawke I believe I'm.
Forgetting you know the worst thing is.
About Blade Blade Trinity is in my head.
Because that fucking movie was I actually kind of enjoyed it, but
it was so bad, like the Duracell, the the the throwing
in there made it so comic book with the the guy who is now
Deadpool. Oh, it's so bad, but I just want
to blade. Oh, let's see what I have Blade
one and two. Yes and no.
That's the fucking. Shit pole I want to just end.
It Yeah blade one or two yes yeah, blade one or two which
which. 1. Blade one or.
Two Yes. No.
No, but blade 1 was. The one where?
He went to the club. And.
All that blood started raining. Down on everybody as they were
dancing. Am I losing one?
That was Blade one. That was Blade One, Dude.
That was the beginning of the movie.
No, no, no. Yeah, I think yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was Blade one because I remember.
I remember watching that movie. Multiple times like it was so
good. Did you watch it again?
Blade 2 say Wolfy Snipes. Fucking awesome.
Yeah, he was. He was born to play.
That role he was so no one can play.
That role, dude, no one can play that role but him.
He he, he was a boss. He was an.
Absolute. Boss, did you watch?
The Wolverine movie where he made the cameo and everything.
Oh, I've got I've. Got free memberships gift by the
way you say you didn't? Think that you could do this?
Look, I've never I've never seen that.
Yeah, I've got to look at that. Giving it.
Let me give away rats. Fuzzy tomato.
BT maverick otaku Doctor Scott. C and Cohen prime.
Yeah, guys are now members. Well done soccer gaming.
This fool won't be on. I don't have a three man overlay
piece of it's got Dennis, but yeah.
You're talking about Blade? Oh, you must have heard the
comic book chat. It was the player.
Comic book chat came in and like, oh, yeah, yeah, Blade, I
read the comics. I, I, I freaking yeah.
I know everything. About him, I know he has a 12.
Inch schlong. Wait a minute.
What? What's right this beta side?
That's, you know, Zach knows everything about Marvel and.
Coke. Let's see, I.
Think we've covered everything, man?
What else am I missing in this gaming space?
What's happened? I don't know, man.
It's it's it's been bro. I'm so glad I.
Wish I. Wish we could sit here and talk
about other stuff. Besides gaming, but you.
Know. Yeah, we cancel.
We. Get rested in two seconds, bro.
Jesus, man, but that podcast. Would be so much.
Fun man. Oh bro.
I you know. What if God?
Damn if you could actually have free speech here on YouTube and.
UK as well the UK. You get arrested, but oh shit,
you will get arrested out there. Yeah, I'll give it that too.
I. Might get an.
E-mail or two or some guys knocking at the.
Door. Who knows?
Yeah. Oh, I'd love to do it.
Oh, just another news very quickly.
It was really good to see Space Marines. 2 has been, has got.
12. Million players.
I haven't even played the the Space Marine.
Well, you know what happened. Space Marine.
You tell me you have not played this.
I played that Yeah, that was years ago.
No, no bro, it came out last year.
But what are you talking about? It was like 2 years.
Ago. Was it 2 years ago?
Three years ago? That's not 2.
Years ago, like it seems like it's.
It's been a while. Dude I've played so many games
since time doesn't make sense anymore.
I did a review on this channel. When did I do that?
How long ago? Chat was Space Marines 2, Space
Marines 2. Was beautiful game and it's OK
it was on its own proprietary engine like I always say.
It came out in 2024 bro 324-O right time fucking.
Hell, man. Yeah, dude, like.
I played that a couple of years back it seems.
Like it's been a while, yeah. And I.
Haven't done the Co-op mode as well which has its own missions
in the story so I'm going to get on PC.
Never did that. Yeah, I thought it was a good
game. I had fun with it, but.
By the end of. It I was.
Ready to be done because of the I'm not big on like horde modes,
like just waves of enemies coming at you.
I'm typically not actually typically not into that, but I'm
telling you, I love my first foray into.
Do the Space Marines and I just loved it.
It's just like, ohh, this is this is when gaming was good.
This these guys are fucking badass yet little babies with
skulls flying around. And then you find out the
stories are raw because they just literally churn these kids.
Human beings want to be turned into switches, like live
switches. It's just a deep Dark World.
And I want to do the coop. I really want to do the coop,
but yeah, that that's sold 12 million.
And Space Marine 3 is already, since it was such a breakout,
success. It's already in development.
So there's that. Space Marines 2 was a dank mean.
Oh, yeah. Assassin's Creed Insider Gaming
keeps talking about the resync, the Black Flag.
Yeah. I'll tell you one thing, you
know, you know I I have no funders for Assassin's Creed.
But I. Know you don't but Black Flag
the last the when I played Black Flag 10 times fast bro I'm not
doing that. Black Flag.
Black Flag flag. Flag.
You know you're going to get me fucking.
Cancer, bro. There's no way I'm saying that.
Black Flag too. Fast but successively.
You're already doing it now Black Flag resync is coming out
and so it might be a game. I would actually.
Like like to play? Because I remember playing that
and I thought, do you like ship battles in games and and riding
on ships? Yeah, I don't.
I don't. That's why you.
Like that flag? I liked it.
I liked it a lot, but it wasn't just the ship battles, it was
the whole the pirate kind of vibe was really good.
I was like really enjoying the the little pier though.
It made me feel more like a pirate than freaking see if
thieves did. And I really thought I thought
that was a that was the, the, the pinnacle of AC honestly,
especially with the RPG ones is definitely.
Odyssey. Odyssey was so good, so fucking
good Yeah, yeah, I tried that, but I I really Origins was great
too. I loved Origins until the very.
End when they forced you to play somebody else.
I because Bayek is honestly the the best protagonist in any AC
game, hands down. Bayek is.
I've heard that before. He's awesome.
That is awesome, but. Soccer game, he says.
You never. Played Sea of Thieves.
Liar. Yeah, because that's that's the
pinnacle of ship battles. Remember for for soccer, Zorka,
you top like Sea of Thieves. It probably is though, to be
honest, for just. Ship battles online.
It probably is the best. I mean, it's quite simple.
It's not exactly like very deep. I I would say the the.
Combat. But it's fun.
Neither is any pirate game, because basically you're just
shooting cannonballs at each other, you know?
So it's true. And you don't have any that
visual marker as well, you haven't got like a, you know,
when you're aiming your cannon, you're manually.
Aiming it and just judging where it goes and you're obviously the
the cannon has a trailer that helps you guide it after the
fact. I was watching my brother play
the other day and I feel like a lot, it was a lot of fun.
The Sea of Thieves is we make fun of Zorka a lot about playing
Sea of thieves a lot because Zorka is the kind of person who
makes fun of Zelda like you because he is barefooted and he
runs around because he hit. But Sea of Thieves has that kind
of like visual a stick as well. But Zorka plays that a lot.
But see if this is actually a really fun game.
It's it's one of those games I regret I didn't have a core
group of friends to play with like me.
You and Zorka played. That would be hilarious.
But I know Zorka is a fucking sweaty try hard.
So you'd be crying like a piece of shit the whole time, taking
it seriously when a game looks like fucking something from
Pixar Shout outs. Don't be going out there in a
schooner around soccer gaming. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's a little bit of a try hard. Oh.
My God as you need to put the mask up.
Oh my God. Enemies about 5.
O'clock and get the freaking repair the shit, throw the water
away and it's like it's one of those games we just want to
chill and have a good time and just care.
I reckon we should actually do that.
I want. To do more.
Gaming content we sit down and play games together but
unfortunately time zones and like real life is a problem yeah
but AC Black Flag is coming out resynced it might be 1 it's a
genuinely. One of the AC games.
That I I would actually be interested in in seeing.
Other than that, I think we've covered everything.
I think we've covered good news. It was good.
We've had a great show. Oh yeah.
Another thing I was going to say, Pub G almost hit nearly
1,000,000 players on Steam concurrent.
Pub G Pub G man like what the Frick is going on.
I loved Pub G when it came out I I.
Need an excuse? To jump back in, Wow, did you
play pub G? When?
When did pub G? Yeah, I've played it, but when
did that become popular again? Bro let me check has it.
Always been people, but I said what the fuck was this?
People were like, yeah. It's always been.
Like it's it's. People don't realise it's
actually pretty really popular. I'm looking look at the team
players now. Pub G is number 5.
It's got 148, 1000 concurrent now it's yeah that's crazy.
What the fuck is Windrose? I don't.
Even know what that is? Five M.
I've never heard of that. What the?
Fuck is this shit? It's probably an adult game
guys. They have a lot of those on
Steam. Watch out for those.
Are they even games? Are they?
Creepy. I don't know.
Look at this game called Windrose we're talking about.
Pirates and stuff. Windrose looks like a freaking.
Windows let me just quickly check this it looks like a
pirate game and it's number freaking three what the Hell's
windows windows trailer This is the thing with PC man we just
there's so many freaking good windows official trailer early
access trailer 4 days ago this isn't smashing it on the charts
we might be sleeping on greatness.
We talk about pirate games here we go look at this it's on
stream right now and it's definitely a pirate game and
there's number 45 whatever it was on on on steam charts looks
really good in engine must be UE 5 because, but let's see if the
game looks and it must be UE5 Dick.
That person is right. Looks really good.
It looks. Like it was a multiplayer.
This looks. Like something we should try?
I need to start. Playing these games and just
trying them out and you, you need to just start playing games
period. Bro give me time to.
Sit down and and play your games that you.
Do have bro? I have so many.
This looks amazing. Look at this.
Did you ever beat Secoro you started it on?
Stream. Yeah, complete it on stream.
OK, good. Good, good, right?
Because I was going to say, dude, it's amazing.
Samir Secoro Secoro was. Really good.
I haven't completed Eldon Ring though and I.
Need to play that what I'm. I'm I'll do on Twitch.
I'll do it on Twitch. I beat Eldon Ring on Series X,
though I didn't beat it on PC. I would have loved to play it on
PC instead. Yeah, I'm going to play again.
This is my third time starting fucking Eldering.
But you're going to restart it? Wow.
I have to because no saves, no saves transfer.
I'm not gonna play on my Xbox. I'm APC man, I'm PC, must race
now and. I want to stream it so windows
early access. Check it out.
It'll actually looks really good and it's dominating the Steam
charts. What the flip is this single
player game? I don't even know what it is.
It's a PVE survival game as well.
It's not even PvP. OK, fuck you #4 on the charts,
not even PvP, fuck. But yeah.
But pub G is doing really well. PC, man, making memes.
Games, games, games. There are a lot of games.
This is why I'm saying that a lot of people are very
pessimistic, cry about the state of the industry, blah blah blah.
But there's so many good games coming out.
There's so many games. Jenny Bastion, I see you.
Oh, Danny, What's up there? He's not official anymore.
I used to. Like the official Danny passion
official guys get the seamless Co-op mod.
For what? For what game?
Which game you talk? About but yeah, Epic treasure
says it's building in pirates. There's literally epic treasures
Forte just building stuff. It's a pocket pair game, all
right, Yeah, this is definitely under, you know, down your
alley. Epic for for sure PC gaming, PC
master race man, even King Thrash got PC and then he said
those. Oh yeah, He got a really nice
podcasting. PCI saw it.
It looks like. It's going to make really good
podcasts. I can't wait to see.
The quality of this. Podcast, It's going to be
amazing man, bro. That guy, I'm not shitting you.
Bro that's some good specs for a podcast.
It's. Really good shout out to King
Thrash. Shout out to King Thrash for the
5017 and. 9800 X 3D and. Multiple tweets saying it's.
Just for streaming PCs filth. It's just for staying staying.
I'm like imagine this. He could have two discords open
at once easy. Bro he's got dude, he's going to
be in stereo that way. Bro.
It's going to be amazing, bro. He was so funny.
He's so he's like. He's so into the.
Console war thing that he can't. Let go of the fact that he has
better. He's like I'm now you're he
replied someone. Why would I limit myself and get
play games on a 5070? I would have got a 5090.
I remember I was like you're limiting yourself by not playing
on your PC instead of playing your PlayStation.
What the fuck you talking about? Yeah I was going to say you're
limiting even playing on the pro.
It's not as good as your 5070 PC.
With a 9800 S 3D Jesus. Hey you know what?
That podcast is going to be lit man.
Can't wait. Fucking binaural sounds escape.
It'll be fucking VR. It's just.
Going to be 4K Goodness I call man 8K over there.
Damn we. Ain't got that?
Kind of scratch man to buy APC just for a podcast not of that
calibre. Damn dude, I you know what more?
Power to him that's. Amazing.
I you know somebody. Asked is this a gaming PCI?
Think it. Was Duck dark?
Yeah. Duck Duck was honest.
He asked that and I said no, It's it's a podcast machine,
obviously. Look at it.
Yeah, it's just the specs are made for podcasting.
Oh shit. Oh.
Shit. Yeah, it's going to be great.
It's one of those, you know he can visit a gas giant on his
PS-5 Pro while he's podcasting on a 5070.
It's going to be amazing. Oh trash.
Why? Why about coming to?
LA this year and Daddy know I. Won't be able to do this.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that a 5070 with a 9800 X 3D.
It's close to 2 grand, Yeah, probably about 1800.
Yeah, he spent 2 grand on it. That's a.
Lot for a podcast. Bro.
That's a lot for a podcast. Like I heard he was rather quiet
too when he first bought it for like the first.
Couple days like he wasn't online.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Doc.
Doc was giving him a hard time. He's just like, yo guys, look,
check out his stuff for 12. Hours.
He hasn't said anything. He's even like, preparing the
first 12 hours, preparing his podcast, baby, downloading
stuff, downloading. Downloading discord in OBS
didn't. Read it.
Oh man, it's funny, man. Oh man, no Tarnished.
Gamer, you don't. You could do it with a freaking
I don't. Know 2050 TI you don't need you
don't need a high end PC or a mid range yeah that's that's
kind of a mid high range. I would say it's like it's up
there, it's mid range, but with the 9800 X 3D that just puts it
over the top for good gaming anyway.
Yeah, unless you're right, you just need it for encoding with
NVANK. You don't need a 5070 Yeah yeah,
yeah. Yeah, NVANK.
So so then even then, maybe even a 3060 probably. 3060 would be
well, he's worth it listen he he couldn't escape the allure of it
for what intention he bought it. I don't I.
Am not it's not for me to say it's a podcast.
Obviously, if he if he says he bought it for podcasting, he
bought it for podcasting got. To take a man on his word, you
got to take him on his word. If you say so.
He's podcasting. If you say so, rough.
If now if his podcasts come out and they're shit, then you got
to say something. Be like, hey, wait, wait a
minute. Where?
Where's the extra bells and whistles on the podcast?
Like I want to see some stuff. I want to hear some stuff.
Fuzzy's like that's the best game in CPU.
What Mike is he using with his podcast?
I don't know. Actually, yeah, that's a good
point about WhatsApp. Is like he always whispers.
Into it anyway. I I remember when he used to
just use his phone to podcast, so I don't know what he's.
Doing these days. He's a maverick, that guy.
You never know what he's doing. He's doing a podcast right now
as a political one. Political podcast?
Yeah, on his channel. Wow.
That's not that's not a good thing.
To do politics and gaming. How?
About your. Channel, but he he got his
channel got nuked already. He's made a new one it already.
Got nuked. OK.
There you go. No, no, but he built.
Another one and he's got a decent view.
He's going to get nuked. Again, I'm sorry to tell you,
King. Thrash don't do politics.
Man, I've done that before and yeah, that's what happens.
Your channel gets nuked. He's got to be bad thing to do
and keep thrashes skirts the line and.
Then snorts it and then shits. It out so I don't know what
he's. Flaring at, but yeah, it is what
it is. It is what it is.
TuneIn. And see how good it sounds on
this 5070. Yeah, yeah, we will after this.
He's live right now. But yeah, everyone in the chat,
thank you so. Much you should.
You should raid his political podcast with this chat.
We should do. Oh my God, it would just go be a
mess. It'll be a mess.
Just be like, hey, we want to get.
Banned by association by raiding that one.
Oh yeah, you might. You might get AIDS, Yeah.
Definitely would, all right. Guys, all right.
We're going to call it a quick fun today.
Yeah, bro, you're sick. Man should make you a Co host
funds. It was sick texting people what
you're going to have Hoggy? He's going to say Xbox is great.
Yeah. Yeah.
OK. So Tuesday I got my show.
Of course. GTL games talk live.
We'll be there. We're also going to Fan Fest
this year, so we will both be there and we will see everybody
there. We're going to make the memes
out there, have a lot of fun. Shout out to BT Maverick.
He knows he'll be going as well. He's already told me.
So I'll be catching up with BT again.
Anybody going out there, feel free.
Even if you don't like me, come up and say what's up or fuck
you. I'd.
I'll take it all. I don't care.
I'm very chill, relaxed. I have a good time out there.
It's it's a lot of fun. So yeah, I can't wait to meet
some new peeps out there this year.
I've been going now. This is the third year in the
row in a row. So yes, no, I, I probably you.
You know what's funny? Dude going back to.
Like the Phil and. Everything I've never even met
Phil and he was right there. I could have met him, but I just
I just didn't be want to be one of those guys rushing him or
bothering him. I just, I didn't want to do it.
So like, I have a picture because I'm standing talking to
somebody and they're like, hey, let's get a picture together.
Guys so. I stood like 6 people down from
Phil in a picture, but I've never shaken his hand, never
introduced myself and so I don't I've never met him and probably
would be the same with Asha. Unless you know for some reason
she was to come up to me and somebody else, I'm talking to
you or whatever, then maybe I would meet her.
But yeah, I'm not rushing her, not like BTBT is going to molest
her it seems. Oh my God I'm joking BT I'm.
Joking he's going to rush her though.
Yeah, he definitely will. He already said he was.
He said early. Yeah, he said early in the chat.
But yeah. Alright, guys.
Thank you. Yeah, Catch.
Me Tuesday. 4:00 PM W. Coast Time.
So. 7:00 PM East Coast GTL GameStop Live Tuesday.
So check this out there, me and Hargit.
And yeah, I know some people are like Hargit, such an Xbox, he's
such an Xbox, but he's a friend. He's a friend.
And the guy I look, I love being able to have a guy who has a
dissenting opinion and we go back and forth and we debate
shit. It's it's a lot more fun at
times when we don't agree then always just being like, yeah,
man, you're right. Yeah, man, you're right.
This podcast sucks. Those types of podcasts just
boring to me. I don't know.
Dissenting opinion is the way. It's that and.
That's what, yeah. That's what how he brings to the
table. You know, he's a smart guy.
He knows his tech. That's what I love.
He knows his tech. Yeah, he does have it, man.
But yeah, and a really nice guy, really nice guy.
He's the nicest, one of the nicest guys you'll meet.
So shout out to him and we chat. Hit the like button, you
bastard. Hit the like button and I will
get the time stamps up. But it was a really good chat.
Thank you so much. What did you say about that
little country? Oh no you didn't.
OK, never. Mind, I thought you were talking
about a smoke I. Don't know what you talking.
About anyway, you said something I didn't.
What anyway I'm? Going to end the end the stream.
But thank you so much everyone.