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There you go. 
Oh my God, every week you think 

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I'd get better at this. 
Every freaking week I stress 

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myself out on the wire. 
On the wire. 

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Something's not working. 
Something's just messed up. 

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Guys get organised. 
No, guys can't do it because 

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you're just a piece of shit. 
Tell me it's working. 

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Tell me it's. 
Working, Oh my God, Oh my God, 

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we are live. 
We are live. 

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We are live. 
What did I touch that? 

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Oh my days we are figuring 
things out as things break in 

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front of us. 
How are you doing cha? 

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We are going to have a guest on 
soon in a bit as well. 

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But as we do figure out all my 
hairs messed up bro, my face 

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messed up bro. 
Saturday. 

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What a beautiful Saturday, the 
sun shining. 

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Finally, the UK, as we finally 
get a bit of vitamin D, as we 

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fight off the depression this 
weather brings upon us, we 

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finally get some respite and it 
alleviates our mood, elevates it

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to another level. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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What's up, people? 
It's good to good to see you 

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guys. 
It's been emotional already. 

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Shout out to everyone over the 
chat. 

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It's been an interesting week. 
Interesting week. 

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Random things, mutterings going 
on, weird you turns from whom? 

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We're going to talk about it and
then some. 

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Let me get my screen. 
I'll let the chat up over there.

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What are you saying? 
Let me shout out to everyone. 

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Captain Chance first. 
In there first in there with the

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membership. 
He's been out in the garden. 

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What are you doing there? 
A little bit. 

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A little bit of gardening. 
Yeah, a little bit of hay fever.

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Just James. 
Good to see you, bro. 

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He ranks my G. 
What are you saying? 

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Happy Saturday, man. 
Paulie. 

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Paulie ABBA. 
I installed random. 

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It's McLeod. 
We need to play some D together.

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Marathon man. 
Fans are really who may be 

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joining us soon. 
The 5th Horseman episode, third 

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side Scorpio, I think I've got 
everyone Multi Pandora, more 

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people. 
Thank you. 

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I'm sorry I haven't missed out 
your name as a people come Ian, 

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as we talk about what's going on
in the space. 

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It's been an interesting week. 
Big game releases. 

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It's been a If you're a gaming 
fan and you like video games and

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you like to be positive about 
video games, it's a good week. 

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Even if you want to be negative 
about video games, it's still a 

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good week because we've got some
big, big releases this week and 

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some indie releases. 
Small in budget but big at heart

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replaced. 
Let me get my pen and paper 

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handy to do your bloody time 
stuff. 

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I don't have someone screaming 5
microseconds off the show. 

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And where's the flicking time 
stamped you? 

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How long it takes? 
The title of this toy stream is 

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big. 
Xbox changes are inbound, 

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incoming. 
What are those changes? 

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It's going to be interesting. 
It's going to be interesting to 

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see. 
Let me know if the sound levels 

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are too high, too low, that you 
know. 

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I like the tunage in here. 
I love the tunage. 

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Tunage in the punage. 
Oh yeah, guys, why were you so 

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late? 
Why did you stop the show 15 

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minutes late? 
It's because I was cycling 

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through some new tunes to add to
this playlist. 

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The same tunes that people 
complain about. 

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I don't want to. 
Hear music. 

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I want to hear the sound of your
squeaky birds and the same 

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topic. 
Over and over again. 

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That's not going to happen, bro.
It's not going to happen, bro. 

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Call D back. 
She's crying. 

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Why? 
He's always crying. 

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Not high enough. 
That's not high enough. 

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The tunes. 
Oh, audio levels. 

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No mind. 
What? 

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What? 
What? 

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What? 
What? 

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What? 
What, What? 

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What? 
Camera's blocked. 

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Oh, shit. 
Yeah, I never realised. 

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Thank you. 
Thank you, Episode 30, for 

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letting me know. 
For letting me know this. 

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Ignore disorganised mess that I 
am. 

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I'm going to get into it right 
first order of the day. 

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Can't even fucking see the audio
levels on this because the 

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freaking massive light that 
stares in my face and blinds me 

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every time I do the show is 
blocking the audio levels. 

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Let me move this fat freaking 50
whatever inch screen still 

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selectively be blocked. 
There we go. 

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Move the topics there safe. 
Not enough jellies. 

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Are these new tunes on the 
Spotify playlist? 

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No, Eldrick. 
The Spotify playlist is is 

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opening and I have been adding 
some dankness to that sounds 

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I've been listening to to the 
gym. 

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I was like, oh, there's going to
be added to nightwave radio 

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chat. 
I gotta, I gotta gotta plug in 

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nightwave radio. 
You have to listen to nightwave 

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radio. 
Haven't updated in a couple of 

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weeks. 
There's still 177 tracks now. 

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Oh, she and I will show you. 
Can I show you? 

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Yes, I can. 
Yes, I can. 

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That's nightwave radio. 
Don't worry about my face. 

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It's there. 
Nightwave radio. 

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Check out Spotify. 
We've got some sick tunes in 

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there. 
I wish I could play it to you, 

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but YouTube's weird like that. 
I'm also working on some. 

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I've been saying I've been 
working on a video, but I've 

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been working on a wicked video 
trying something new. 

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Time to bring back a character 
that was part of the whole 

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little rebrand that I haven't 
really done anything on and it's

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it's a good time. 
I'm so sorry. 

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Chat for the video. 
The last video was like 3 months

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ago and it's always a case of 
what do I do? 

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Do I just shit out of video for 
the algorithm and I can't do it?

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I really can't do it. 
Why do I have so much money on 

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my table? 
Bro, don't ask me why we reach 

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up in here. 
Don't ask me why that's there. 

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Yeah, I'm working on a really 
good video. 

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I think you'll really like it. 
The edits on that are nightmare,

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but it's also very different. 
It's also different because I 

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don't want to be a lazy piece of
shit in this space. 

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I want to do something 
different. 

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A little bit of me on camera, a 
little bit of my cinematic 

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photography. 
Excuse me. 

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Wait. 
Shit out of video. 

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Explosive video. 
Zorka Gaming knows about my 

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explosive videos, bro. 
Does the sound need to be up? 

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My mobile phone is halfway up. 
I do listen to it while I'm in 

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the van. 
I need some new tunes. 

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Oh, Eldrick, you legend. 
I will get you some sick tunes. 

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I'll update it tonight. 
Oh yeah, I'll update it tonight.

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But I always like to have a 
little I'll reel to accompany 

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the playlist, but I will do it 
tonight. 

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I've got so much to do. 
That Spotify stream is awesome. 

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Thank you. 
Episode 30. 

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I love it, love it, love it. 
Chuck a pony hunter vid out with

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a pony hunter himself. 
We was I was trying to link up 

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with safe this weekend, but he 
was a bit busy to do a really 

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good pony hunter that we've had 
in the works for a while. 

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So that don't worry, Pony Hunter
is going to come back. 

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Just guys, give me an update if 
the music is a bit too loud. 

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I know that everyone has a 
different opinions on the music.

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Some people just the existence 
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Well, it's too loud, but it just
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that we've got the pleasantries 
out of the way, Let's talk about

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a game that I really like and 
I'll be looking forward to and 

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as I play today, because it's 
been a busiest week and the 

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world doesn't want me to do 
anything but just work. 

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And it's a game called It's a 
nice little game. 

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You know what it's called? 
It's called bloody, it's called 

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replaced, and it's out right 
now. 

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And here we go. 
I'll pick the right button. 

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They just started playing it 
today. 

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It's got decent reviews. 
Well, actually has it. 

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I don't know what this matter is
like, but people who I talked to

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said that they enjoyed it and 
I'm just, I'm just, I want to 

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check it right now on my phone. 
What's the replacement? 

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It doesn't matter, boy. 
It does matter because it's 7636

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reviews, so decent amount of 
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It's not even exactly that high,
but I really hope the 

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developers, well, I either way, 
I hope what the developers do 

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well, irrespective of the 
critical reception. 

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But at the same time, with 
Indies, you've got to be a 

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little bit naturally, you're 
like, alright, smaller team, 

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we've got to, you've got to give
them a little bit more love. 

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But that doesn't mean that they 
escape the critical lens. 

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And I've been really enjoying 
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The game is actually really 
beautiful. 

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I know it like pixel art isn't 
for everyone, but look at it, 

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look at this shit. 
It's just really nice 

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soundtrack. 
The even the combat, it's just a

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simple game. 
I feel like the way the premise 

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of the game was, there's almost 
a desire that, you know, the 

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visuals are so strong. 
I feel like they don't match up 

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sometimes with the scope. 
Like I, I felt like, well, and I

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know this sounds weird, but I 
felt like maybe something deeper

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like Disco Elysium mixed with 
this combat would have been 

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epic. 
But that that's like a, because 

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that's the, so that's how strong
the strength of the visuals are.

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But at the same time, you know 
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people because Disco Elysium is 
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So be playing replace and it's 
it's a good game, and I wonder 

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if any of you guys have played 
it Xbox first yes, this is this 

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is one of those rare games 
that's not on PlayStation, but 

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it's on Xbox and PC. 
I'm sure it'll land on 

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PlayStation eventually, but it's
a really good game, really fun 

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game. 
Oh, have I done here? 

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Oh shit, don't play showing my 
steam. 

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Why did my steam page come up? 
That's weird and Steam is the 

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best. 
Are you playing it on Steam? 

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This is the only game I've 
actually this is the only game 

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I'm playing. 
I'm at to play on the Xbox app 

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Atrocious. 
Atrocious. 

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I didn't realise I had my game 
pass sub running for the last 

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six months because I wanted to 
test something out and then I 

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was like fuck, I've paid game 
pass for no reason. 

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So can I transfer the saves to 
the PC version and then play on 

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Steam? 
Because I'm going to buy on 

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Steam. 
Anyone need to cancel game pass?

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I swear to using the freaking 
Xbox app. 

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It was rage inducing. 
Good luck Xbox when you're 

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trying to do this whole PC 
hybrid thing because I cannot 

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and Steam is so nice for me. 
Steam is beautiful. 

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Steam is so much more. 
It's simplistic blah blah blah. 

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I don't give a shit. 
I love the minimal it just works

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for me. 
I hate Xbox install. 

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I hate Xbox install yeah, so the
sad game pass only I'm like 

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fucks I've had game pass all 
this time I've I was paying for 

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it the PC version only and I 
need to cancel it as you under 

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you need to understand. 
I spend now over like six £700 a

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month on just subscriptions and 
this one just managed to load 

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itself through. 
I need to cancel that, but I 

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will get honesty Gaz with the 
Subs man a lot You probably have

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like 2K worth of well six £700 
now because I went for the 

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expensive Claude one, the pro 
version and that's like Nike 

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quid or something. 
I don't know what this I'm a 

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slut when it comes to 
subscriptions just terrible for 

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it and I I need to manage my 
affairs. 

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I need help. 
Please help me, help me. 

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I need an intervention. 
Yeah, but yeah, this is on Game 

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Pass. 
So the player is sick, is a is a

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meme. 
It's a Dang chime. 

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It's a schlag cream. 
The combat's really good as 

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well. 
And this I think I have got a 

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footage of some combat. 
Well, Oh my God, What have I 

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done here? 
Yeah, it's just, it's just a 

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really good game. 
So do check it out. 

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Do check it out. 
It's a really good game. 

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And I think it's worth, if it's 
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That's a good thing about Game 

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to the value proposition of it 
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is an excellent segue to the 
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Yeah, yeah. 
Xbox Game Pass, is it the best 

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value in gaming? 
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It's almost expired now, you 
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The best value in gaming. 
Everyone to say the. 

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Best value and I and it was. 
It was the best value in gaming 

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by far, by far. 
Nothing came close. 

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The game passed. 
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That is something that we all 

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knew. 
But but you know what does that 

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mean? 
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making after that price hike. 
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website to cancel the sub crash?
It was ridiculous. 

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I will show you some tweets from
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it but really it's quite 
indicative of just how bad they 

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must have been bleeding Subs. 
I'm telling you right now 

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they're not announcing their 
numbers but they must have lost 

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a shit tonne of Subs after that 
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It became from best value in 
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at this point and that is a 
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Microsoft who I don't know what 
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Sharma acknowledges that by 
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basically saying we got mugged. 
I reckon they lost about fuck. 

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How many How many Subs do you 
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How many millions of subscribers
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I think they lost shit tonne of 
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Shit tonne of subscribers. 
Asha's had a good start. 

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We'll see. 
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with you, I don't want to pour 
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early begins. 
How much you can do here. 

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But so far she's made the right 
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right way. 
But I'm just reminded of the 

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mistakes we all made by, I mean,
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the Xbox, when Phil Spence had a
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the right things, that he was 
pacified people, he brought 

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backwards compatibility back. 
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invest in first party studios. 
Remember that. 

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Don't let the the the stables 
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That communication was a point 
where that was backed up. 

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The bark was backed up by some 
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they started parroting the lines
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Then, then, then then it became 
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shit show, I'm not going to lie.
Check out our good friend Neo 

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Games Spark. 
He says almost. 

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After almost six years, I 
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membership once it hit $30.00 a 
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It is a lot. 
With so much entertainment 

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competing for my time, I didn't 
need another hefty subservice 

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just sitting there milking my 
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But if they revamped the tears, 
I may reconsider. 

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And yeah, this is where Asha 
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expensive. 
And in an internal memo, she 

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said she wants better value 
equation. 

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But what does that actually mean
Chat, What does that actually 

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mean? 
There've been rumours that 

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suggest abound about what that 
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And I think the reality is we're
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the game pass some. 
I don't think I think that one I

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mean, this is well, it's still 
an egg on their face removing 

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Call of Duty. 
But at the same time, does it? 

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Would you rather they let me do 
a poll? 

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Let me do a poll. 
But I know what the answer's 

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going to be. 
Pragmata we'll talk about in a 

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bit. 
Yeah, man, Luke reached out to 

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me and says you need to check 
out Pragmata with path tracing 

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is insane. 
And we need to talk about the 

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PlayStation guys who are really 
going hard on the PSSR thing and

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compete thinking that they that 
this console competes with PC is

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so stupid. 
I don't know what they're doing.

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It's so embarrassing. 
And then there's some a lot of 

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the PC guys are arguing toe to 
toe with them like why, why why 

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are you doing that? 
Makes no sense. 

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Anyway, with Game Pass. 
What was I going to say? 

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Should X girl XGP Game Pass get 
rid of Cod for a cheaper price? 

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That's a weird, weird, badly 
worded Paul, as always. 

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But let's see. 
I don't think there's much 

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goodwill now with Call. 
Call of Duty is the big 

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mainstream title. 
And yes, you know, I don't think

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that it's brought in that many 
numbers. 

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I still think Xbox Game Passes 
marketing has been atrocious. 

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Like for a service that's that's
supposed to be so disruptive. 

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I never done anything in terms 
of even the marketing people 

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still out there, the filthy 
casuals still don't know. 

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I have to say, do you have game 
pass or what's that? 

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They just think it's like that, 
oh, Xbox Gold paid to play 

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online to play online. 
Just say because who plays COD 

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now? 
I remember a while ago when I 

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was on Fonz's show and everyone 
was coming at me and I said for 

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one reason. 
Do you think Call of Duty will 

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be a juggernaut forever? 
There's No title like that that 

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will stay a juggernaut forever. 
And this IP has been an 

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Activision have the same hubris 
when it came to like their 

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guitar heroes and other multiple
other titles. 

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Call of Duty is the same and 
they need to be under pressure 

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anyway. 
But I don't think like at the 

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cost of the the price. 
Call of Duty will most likely be

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removed from Game Pass. 
Do it, but make it cheaper. 

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And also more fundamentally this
is the tier I would be 

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interested in consciously sub 
to, not unconsciously 

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unknowingly sub to make a first 
party only game past year that's

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much cheaper. 
Like a really really good value 

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proposition. 
Say it's like we have £9 or £10 

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or whatever. 
I don't even know what the 

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current price is, but that kind 
of cheaper price. 

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That price point for the sub 
when we get a lot more people, a

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lot more people danked danked on
on that. 

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I think Call of Duty has been a 
juggernaut for a decades. 

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More like Pokémon. 
It's dog water shit games but 

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still sell incredibly well. 
Jerry's out for the next one. 

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Call of Duty always goes through
their cycle man. 

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So a lot of people like Game 
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qualities dwindled. 
I'm like that's not the reason 

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why quality And Call of Duty has
been doing this cycle for ages. 

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For decades. 
You've seen it from the Ghosts 

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to Freaky and what Vanguard to 
it always happens. 

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Multiple studios are working on 
Call of Duty. 

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Sometimes they just shit it out,
do the bare minimum, then they 

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realise, oh we need to go back 
to our core and our strengths 

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and then they've reckoned the 
team. 

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You can tell when the team 
actually goes out their way to 

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spend some time to think about 
how to make it better. 

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But I I'll be honest with you, 
they really need to seriously 

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reconsider the whole thing. 
Problem is they don't really 

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have that much big competition 
other than other shooters in 

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this space. 
Everyone's hoping Battlefield 

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would be the one that would make
the dank memes, but Battlefield 

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hasn't been. 
It had a had a really strong 

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start and it looked really 
positive, but the long term 

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proposition of it just dwindled.
And it's really sad. 

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It's because we needed and it's 
a good game. 

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It's a good game, but I haven't 
gone back to it for a while. 

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And and actually thanks to 
Naruto for sure reminding me to 

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watch this today. 
Battlefield has a really good 

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road map. 
Now they've released a video a 

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couple of days ago about what 
they're planning to do with it 

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and what they the kind of 
content that people have been 

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asking for. 
So they've been really 

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receptive, you know, listening 
in to the the reception on, on, 

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on on this. 
I'll try and skip the video. 

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So you're going to have a look 
at it. 

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But basically we want a lot more
see, you know, the water maps, 

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Cairo bazaar, they basically 
revamp the reject the old map 

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made it sick and like they're 
they're catering for everything.

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You've got your close, you know,
close quarters maps, and you've 

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also got your large maps. 
I think the big update for me is

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the you'll see it here. 
This this the season 4 map, 

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which comes starts in July. 
And I don't know like the time 

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is like ticking for battlefield 
man, but I can see there's 

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having a resurgence when this 
big map comes out. 

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You get naval warfare coming 
back again, which is brilliant 

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and they've got some classic 
maps. 

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I forgot the name of the map, 
the the classic one. 

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This is a new one called Suru 
Reef. 

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But they've also done a rejig of
the a classic map and we needed 

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more space in here as well. 
Look at that. 

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Oh shit, Wake Island. 
That's it. 

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Thank you. 
Wake Island is coming back This 

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is a classic classic battlefield
map. 

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So whether or not this will 
actually make some memes I don't

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know, but battlefield 
desperately needs the player 

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numbers. 
I actually should check Let me 

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check what battlefield steam 
charts? 

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What do they say? 
It's interesting how this 

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generation steam charts have 
become really kind of used a lot

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to determine what, how a game is
doing. 

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And you know, it speaks to 1 the
prevalence and the strength of 

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PC gaming. 
Basically how, how, how, how big

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it is, how mainstream it is. 
And you know this, what can you 

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say? 
I mean, look at the charts at 

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the moment it's got 54,000, 
which is not a bad number, not a

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bad number. 
I mean, that's now like, I mean,

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a lot of people are talking 
about the death of marathon and 

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I, I really don't want that game
to die. 

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And I, I, that's one game I 
nervously look at the player 

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numbers for. 
And so at 50,000, that's, you 

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know, that's not bad. 
Well, but it's not Call of Duty 

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numbers, I'll be honest with 
you, but they mean you look at 

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this and marathons at 22,000 and
24 hour people's at 25,000. 

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It's hovering around there and 
you know that this is most 

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likely going to have a stronger 
player support on PC. 

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I'm nervous about marathon. 
It's going to be one of those 

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games that I don't want to fail.
I really don't want to fail. 

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It reminds me of what I wanted 
with Titanfall 2. 

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And it was a painful exercise 
because you start to when you're

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the player queues. 
And I played a lot of Titanfall 

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one and two and the, the, the, 
the games got longer to find, 

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the matchmaking was longer. 
And I was like, Oh no, I didn't 

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save things happening with 
marathon. 

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I'm like, no, no please. 
Multiplayer space is so freaking

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competitive. 
You can build a good game and 

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it's still not enough man. 
You have to capture the 

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zeitgeist at the right time in 
the right place. 

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Brev, what's up hunty? 
You're missing Chelsea. 

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I don't watch football. 
Football. 

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This is a tune. 
Marathon needs a big update. 

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If it's done right, it may bring
back beyond life. 

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Yes, Marathon definitely needs a
big update man. 

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To save itself. 
But yeah, ultimately Game pass 

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and go back to Game pass. 
It also needs an update to save 

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itself. 
I think it's a lot more 

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critical. 
I think a lot of people would be

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surprised, not like surprised 
but shocked at the number of 

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Subs it most likely have bled as
a result. 

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They're still committed to Game 
Pass. 

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She's saying it's very 
expensive. 

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A lot of people are saying they 
were just going to crater it and

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the whole thing about but is it 
sustainable? 

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They're still backing it. 
They're still backing it. 

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They made big missteps when it 
comes to the service, big 

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missteps in terms of how they're
marketing it. 

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They're still failing with that.
And they really need to reignite

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the the the fire there A first 
party only subscription tier too

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many tiers anyway. 
It's just freaking annoying. 

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But as game buzz only 
subscription tier would be sick.

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And if you made it and they have
to they have. 

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I don't know how they're going 
to reconcile this. 

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They're going PC right? 
The next Xbox is APC thing. 

451
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,080
You can market this as like 
game. 

452
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,320
Well, just drop the pay to play 
online stuff. 

453
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,640
You need to be disruptive. 
You need to be disruptive and 

454
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:59,560
whether or not Xbox has the test
to please to do it remains to be

455
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,240
seen. 
Remains to be seen Xbox needs to

456
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,920
do something desperately in my 
opinion to be relevant and a lot

457
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,440
of people are like, oh, they're 
third party publisher, they're 

458
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,760
OK to post on the you know, 
software sales this and that. 

459
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:17,160
And I'm like brav, which leads 
me which leads me to the next 

460
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:22,560
topic, which is a topic that's 
burning in everyone's throats, 

461
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,480
exclusives. 
What is going on? 

462
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,760
What's going on here? 
Why? 

463
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,680
Why am I observing huh? 
Why am I observing? 

464
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,360
A lot of U turns from the 
narratives of a lot of people. 

465
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,160
People love the this is an Xbox 
thing. 

466
00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:45,120
They said oh stop gatekeeping 
exclusives, stop gatekeeping 

467
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:49,480
games Xbox is smart, this is 4D 
quadruple D chairs blah blah 

468
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,920
blah. 
I just at one point when they 

469
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:56,600
made a PlayStation capitulate 
seemingly by them going third 

470
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:03,400
party, I was like OK maybe we 
were wrong, but Sony smart they 

471
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,000
went back and said fuck it we're
not making enough money from it.

472
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,720
Well, we don't know yet Assuming
Jason's drive is right expert 

473
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,240
PlayStation said Nah, let's just
pay it back our single player 

474
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:15,440
support on PC and focus on that 
device and it's a smart player. 

475
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,480
I don't know why they would even
consider doing it when they you 

476
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,040
know for them gaming, Sony 
gaming is everything. 

477
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:28,720
But now we're hearing rumblings 
that Xbox are considering all 

478
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,440
and I'll be honest, I have a 
very specific take of where the 

479
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,440
reality actually is with this 
case. 

480
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,760
But it's important that they 
realise. 

481
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:44,960
And I spoke to, you know, we had
Jeff, Jeff, we had Jess Gordon 

482
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,480
lost on last week talking about 
it. 

483
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:55,360
But this is coming for from from
Jess and by Insider Gaming. 

484
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,480
Xbox is having very big 
discussions about exclusivity it

485
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,400
is claimed. 
Could Xbox be rethinking its 

486
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,040
policy and exclusives when it 
comes to 1st party games? 

487
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,840
That's what Windows Central 
said. 

488
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Jazz has said he talks about 
Call of Duty. 

489
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,160
You know why? 
How I said they were thinking 

490
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,800
about adjusting Game Pass. 
They are very, very, very big 

491
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,640
discussions about exclusivity 
stuff going on. 

492
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,280
I think they do recognise the 
value just about what kind of 

493
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:22,840
company you want to be at the 
end of the day. 

494
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,560
Do you want to be an ecosystem 
company 1st or do you want to be

495
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,440
a publishing company 1st? 
What's going on? 

496
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:38,920
What's going on huh? 
Exclusives. 

497
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:45,880
Are you guys Care now? 
You ostracised me, you molester 

498
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:51,000
sized me. 
You said shut up Gaz stop 

499
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,160
talking about exclusives. 
Just get over it. 

500
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,320
Xbox has played 14 chairs. 
Stop gamekeeping. 

501
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:01,920
Exclusives are antiquated. 
I've got AMD graphics card. 

502
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,800
I'm a twat, but I'll keep 
chatting about Xbox exclusives. 

503
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:16,800
Yeah, listen, how many people 
from the PC crowd who just 

504
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,080
talked about exclusive lack of 
exclusives and they don't give a

505
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,080
shit about competition, blah 
blah, blah blah, blah. 

506
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,840
Absolute nonsense, absolute 
nonsense. 

507
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Of course, so many of the PC 
guys were crying about, they 

508
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,320
don't understand, they will 
completely ignore the history 

509
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,200
behind the the the landscape 
that basically formed the gaming

510
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,440
space. 
So they were getting their hard 

511
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,200
on thinking about how 
exclusivity was disappearing and

512
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,240
not realising what exclusivity 
has done for the space, what 

513
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,880
these platform holders, the 
energy they bring in the space. 

514
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,320
And you're Jess's company is 
right. 

515
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,280
Do you want to be an eco 
ecosystem company, a publishing 

516
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,520
company? 
First, I said this last week, 

517
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,720
you cannot if Xbox has so short 
sighted that they and people are

518
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,960
like, oh, do you want, do you 
want the studios to die? 

519
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,040
Do you want their games to fail?
Listen, man, Microsoft's a 

520
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,240
trillion dollar company. 
Are you sitting there crying 

521
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,800
about? 
But it's still a business. 

522
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:16,920
Every freaking shitty decision 
that they make, you back it and 

523
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,440
swallow it up. 
But now you want to freaking go,

524
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,080
you know, have your little 
violin. 

525
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,400
Oh, it's good for gaming. 
Yeah. 

526
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:27,040
The secretly all these guys on 
the Xbox podcast, they want, 

527
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:31,440
they want exclusives back. 
But this is this is what a safe 

528
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,320
face? 
The parasocial crew. 

529
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,960
Oh, yeah, it's good. 
Why you gatekeeping it? 

530
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:41,840
It's bullshit. 
It's bullshit. 

531
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,960
It's stupid. 
And now we're hearing it. 

532
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Do I think that Xbox will do it 
though? 

533
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,400
Do I think Xbox has the 
testicles to do it? 

534
00:31:54,360 --> 00:32:01,520
And the answer to that is no, I 
don't think Xbox will do it. 

535
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:09,680
I think what Xbox might do is a 
sum because they're not 

536
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,840
committed to day and day on 
PlayStation just yet, but 

537
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,200
conveniently with things that 
align with the launch of the 

538
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:22,680
next Xbox, they might be more 
minded to try and make sure. 

539
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,560
Well, they have to. 
They have to, you know, when 

540
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,880
they have a marketing strategy 
should suggest that, you know, 

541
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:32,160
you want to make sure that the 
next console that or hybrid that

542
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:35,440
you're revealing has to have 
some sort of bluster. 

543
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:40,960
You start releasing these games 
at the same time as on 

544
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,000
PlayStation Kill, it kills the 
hype. 

545
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,560
People are like, well I'll just 
get on PlayStation. 

546
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,000
So the Xbox isn't a rock between
a rock and a hard place. 

547
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,800
It's finally had a taste and the
flavour of PlayStation money, 

548
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,240
despite all the PlayStation 
fanboys saying that they don't 

549
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,400
give a shit about PlayStation 
Xbox games. 

550
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,640
They they really care about Xbox
game right now. 

551
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:08,680
One of the most serial hardcore 
PlayStation fanboy J dub is 

552
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,640
playing Microsoft Flight 
Simulator on his PlayStation and

553
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,040
so many PlayStation guys really 
went out of their way to support

554
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,640
Forza Horizon. 
Apparently. 

555
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,400
Well, I don't know that's a 
linear analytical. 

556
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,520
I don't really trust their 
numbers really after some of the

557
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,440
weird reporting and the metrics 
that they utilised. 

558
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:32,520
But you know what, what's 
apparently it's, you know, how 

559
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,760
many millions have they sold off
Forza Horizon? 

560
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,800
I just don't think it's that 
much to sacrifice a long term 

561
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,240
game. 
This is a short term play from 

562
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,280
Xbox. 
They don't get it. 

563
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,080
They just don't get it. 
That means either they don't 

564
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,640
have the appetite to really back
their brand and I don't think 

565
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:51,880
they have that much faith. 
Like, they gave so much pressure

566
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,080
from Satya and all this we need 
to make and, you know, Amy Hood 

567
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,440
and all of them, it needs to be 
a viable business. 

568
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,320
We have to make sure that the 
numbers make sense. 

569
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:01,280
Yes. 
And then Phil Spencer comes out 

570
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,480
and say, you know, it doesn't 
matter if even if you release a 

571
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,320
big game, it's not going to 
change the fucking thing. 

572
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:06,680
I mean, of course it isn't going
to change. 

573
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,239
One singular game is not going 
to change anything. 

574
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,080
You spend the entirety of last 
Gen just flopping and now you're

575
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,199
thinking, oh, no, yeah, if 
Starfield was a massive hit, it 

576
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:19,880
won't change the fate of 
anything. 

577
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:24,920
No shit, what do you mean? 
What goodwill did you build in 

578
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,360
the brand? 
You can't sit out an entire 

579
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,440
generation, shit it completely 
shit the entire generation you 

580
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,639
shat it. 
Name me the killer apps on the 

581
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:39,639
in the Xbox One generation and 
they'll be like a singular 

582
00:34:39,639 --> 00:34:41,000
figures. 
Not even that. 

583
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,920
And then what? 
So how can you build? 

584
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,840
And now you have to, Now you're 
a publishing powerhouse. 

585
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,080
Xbox has so many studios. 
And this is The funny thing. 

586
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,520
If you have the renegade spirit 
and actually realise what the 

587
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,560
long term play is and you have 
the ferocity to back back your 

588
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,240
bark, you would go exclusives 
because you know, like, OK, we 

589
00:35:04,240 --> 00:35:07,640
have Elder Scrolls, we are 
Microsoft or we are Xbox and we 

590
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:14,520
have the whole suite of first 
person shooters, Western RPGs. 

591
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,840
We've got so much shit. 
That's what they would be saying

592
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,320
and they should be saying well 
fuck it, let's just go. 

593
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,760
How much money are they actually
making though? 

594
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,360
Other than Forza Horizon? 
Maybe Doom? 

595
00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:32,760
I don't think that the numbers 
justify the dilution of the 

596
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,600
brand. 
But again, I say it's untenable 

597
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,680
that I don't. 
I just don't see Xbox going back

598
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,000
to exclusives. 
But I'm hearing random stuff 

599
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,440
about the look. 
Everything is fluid. 

600
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,560
If it wasn't for Xbox, I would 
say God to come back and bring 

601
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,440
back exclusives. 
I am very, very, very, very 

602
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,800
strong proponent of exclusives. 
I think it'll make they all 

603
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,520
change the energy in the space 
so much. 

604
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,840
It would be and and when I say 
exclusives, I'm not saying that 

605
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,520
PC will go with there's no the 
next console is a freaking PC 

606
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,120
hybrid. 
So how you can some people like,

607
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:07,240
well, if it's true exclusives, 
they need to remove PC games as 

608
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:08,040
well. 
It's not going to happen. 

609
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,000
It's just not going to happen. 
Shout out to Epic Treasure. 

610
00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:14,400
Thank you so much for the gifted
membership that 187 received. 

611
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:23,440
Yeah. 
Drive by drive by let me do a 

612
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,720
let me do a poll. 
I swear to God if you guys piss 

613
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:30,000
me off with the results of this.
Should Xbox bring go back to 

614
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,920
exclusives? 
Go back to exclusives. 

615
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,920
Oh, I actually, I should say, do
you think Xbox? 

616
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,040
No, actually it should. 
No. 

617
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,600
Do you think Xbox will go back 
to exclusives? 

618
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:54,080
Let's see so many podcasts and 
stuff. 

619
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:56,920
They went out and did AU turn on
this. 

620
00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,760
They swallowed the stuff they 
they just said. 

621
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,920
Oh no, exclusively disappearing 
is great, blah, blah, blah, blah

622
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,760
blah, and they came at me for 
saying it's just nonsense. 

623
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,440
How on earth and go go on any 
video on Xbox. 

624
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,480
Now look, I'll show you let me 
show you just how crazy it is. 

625
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:21,120
Xbox Matt booty came out of this
week and did an interview, 

626
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,320
talked about how collegiate the 
different studios are. 

627
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,800
They're working together and 
it's it's actually really nice 

628
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,920
to see. 
You know, we've we've been 

629
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,280
hammering for ages. 
We talked about, you know, how 

630
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:40,760
good would it be when, if Xbox 
went back to oh, I've got it 

631
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,560
here. 
They did it on their podcast. 

632
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:47,080
If you go on this podcast and 
you'll see the comments, all 

633
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,120
you'll see is the top comments 
of this video. 

634
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520
Bring back exclusives, bring 
back exclusives, bring back 

635
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,960
exclusives. 
Top comments are bring back 

636
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:59,200
exclusives because people, 
what's the strength of the 

637
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:00,880
brand? 
If you don't bring it, don't you

638
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:04,480
don't have any real identity 
anyway. 

639
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,080
This this is a video by Matt 
Boot. 

640
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,440
Brian Fargo Studio in Exile, 
working on Clockwork Revolution.

641
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,880
These guys is what we've talked 
about for a while that they, we 

642
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,640
wanted the studios to work. 
You know why? 

643
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Why is Xbox the focus so much 
attention for from the 

644
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,840
PlayStation Podcast almost 
wholly talk about Xbox. 

645
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,080
Everyone really talks about Xbox
despite the fact that it fumbles

646
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:27,880
all the time. 
Why is Xbox always in the 

647
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,880
conversation? 
Because it's just a fascinating,

648
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,400
fascinating premiership from 
this from this company that had 

649
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,320
a meteoric rise in the 360 jet 
disrupted stuff from the 

650
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,960
original Xbox managed to land 
something called Halo that just 

651
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,600
changed everything did led the 
way with online gameplay on 

652
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,320
consoles and with achievements, 
blah blah blah. 

653
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,440
And then they keep fumbling 
about. 

654
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,120
They keep fumbling about, but 
they're still quite a young in 

655
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,440
terms of the space. 
Like that's why you're like, we 

656
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,240
follow it so strongly. 
You're like, oh, it would be 

657
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:00,680
really nice. 
They in 2018, they start buying 

658
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,200
all these studios and then 
you're like, OK, imagine what 

659
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,680
these students could do. 
They start working together 

660
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,680
because they got such mad 
talent. 

661
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,640
So you got its software. 
Everyone's like, get them to 

662
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,720
work on Halo. 
Its software should work on 

663
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:15,480
Halo. 
And now we also talked about 

664
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,520
tech sharing. 
Imagine if this, you know, the 

665
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,600
water physics and, and the rest 
of thieves was used for another 

666
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,120
game and blah, blah, blah. 
And we, we've been talking about

667
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,920
it for ages, But right now we're
starting to see that it's 

668
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:30,800
actually come to come to like 
maturity, like they're really 

669
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,840
the student. 
Listen to it. 

670
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,920
They're able to benefit from all
of the really technical work 

671
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,360
that they're doing up at the 
Coalition. 

672
00:39:37,720 --> 00:39:40,360
And there was other examples. 
We've got the Blizzard 

673
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,320
Cinematics team helping out on 
Fable we've. 

674
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,680
The Blizzard cinematic team, the
best of the best. 

675
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,520
They're the best of the best. 
I always use their cinematics 

676
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,040
for a reason. 
Everyone who knows Blizzard 

677
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,760
cinematics team, they're wicked.
Them working on Fable? 

678
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,960
Amazing. 
Got our studio in Montreal, 

679
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,680
Compulsion Games using the 
Activision Mocap studio we've 

680
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,800
got. 
Team Mocap is another big one, 

681
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,160
so Ninja Theory as well as 
another big one. 

682
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,920
They have a really good mocap 
studio. 

683
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,720
So now you know the different 
studios starting to, so now 

684
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,680
you're going to get that kind of
quality in terms of well across 

685
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,120
the board. 
Well Compulsion games still have

686
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,240
a lot to prove in my opinion, 
but safe. 

687
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,760
I think the team at Rare with a 
lot of multiplayer experience 

688
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,600
working on CF Thieves helping 
out double fine. 

689
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:25,480
Which is interesting because 
Rare hasn't done anything for 

690
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:26,560
ages. 
Safe. 

691
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,200
And kiln the pottery game. 
So there's a lot of examples of 

692
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,120
that. 
You know, one maybe just to sort

693
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:36,760
of show a more complicated round
trip, you had State of Decay 2, 

694
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,880
which had some pretty 
sophisticated technology for 

695
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:44,040
doing saving shared worlds and 
how you sort of save this 

696
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:47,200
persistent state. 
Which is again funny because 

697
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:51,280
State of Decay too had that 
awful tethering shit, you know, 

698
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,960
and and that was awful, but they
also, they had to use a lot of 

699
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,400
stuff. 
So you have that persistent 

700
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,360
stuff that you leave in because 
it was a shared well. 

701
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,080
And the team at Obsidian, which 
is a really small team that 

702
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:05,200
built grounded, took that tech 
to use in Grounded, but then the

703
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,200
people at Obsidian kind of added
to it and now it's gone 1st 

704
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,920
circle back to Undead Labs to be
in State of Decay 3. 

705
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:13,840
So that's. 
Which is interesting because now

706
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,360
State of Decay 3 doesn't have 
that tethering bullshit, so 

707
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,360
that's nice. 
So you decide to see and then it

708
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,320
goes on for a while. 
There's quite a lot, a lot of 

709
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,320
examples here. 
I'll just read it out here for 

710
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,360
you guys. 
King and Mojang, I don't give a 

711
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:27,920
shit. 
Obsidian, you know, we've talked

712
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,960
about that now. 
Minecraft, in game stuff, I 

713
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,880
think we've covered everything. 
But yeah, so that's really good.

714
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,760
So I mean, we've been talking 
about it for a while. 

715
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,480
It's good to see Xbox Studio 
start to mature to the point 

716
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,320
where they used to just start to
share tech. 

717
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,960
Shouldn't give you some good 
examples of it. 

718
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,880
And yeah, let's see, let's see 
what happens. 

719
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,520
I mean, this isn't necessarily 
guarantee that they're going to 

720
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,520
be bangers, but it's just a 
specific point about the the 

721
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:53,400
teams are trying to work on it. 
Now what? 

722
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,960
What is what is freaking the 
issue with Halo Studios? 

723
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,880
Someone needs to help them. 
Someone needs to help Halo 

724
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,360
Studios because Halo has been an
absolute shit show under 343, 

725
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,200
which is what Halo Studios is 
now, just a different name. 

726
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:11,800
And I'm sorry, I, I, I should 
have saved all of this stuff 

727
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,520
when Pierre Hintsay and his team
were appointed. 

728
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,760
And I just said there's no 
guarantee for success. 

729
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,160
You guys are just giving them a 
lot of credit because they fixed

730
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,240
the Master Chief collection and 
they fixed some of the, the, you

731
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:24,880
know, road map of Halo infinite.
But building a new game, blah 

732
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:26,720
blah blah is not great. 
And then we hear that the 

733
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:30,480
leadership is absolute ass and 
I'm and I'm vindicated again. 

734
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,760
Again, Son of Vision, thank you 
so much for the five. 

735
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,840
Didn't you see the graph that 
got released a few days ago? 

736
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,680
Of all the games released on 
PlayStation, only Forza made 

737
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,800
over 1,000,000 sales. 
It's not worth it. 

738
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,640
If someone can tag me in on 
Twitter with that graph, it will

739
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,080
be really helpful because I have
seen that graph. 

740
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:52,720
I don't know who made that 
number. 

741
00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:56,440
Again, if it's Alania Analytica 
or whatever, I just side eyed 

742
00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,920
them based on the manner in 
which I see them getting used 

743
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,360
all the time. 
But I just question them, their 

744
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:08,520
metrics and calculation methods.
So that's why I really earn the 

745
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,480
side of caution with them. 
And I know I don't use them so. 

746
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,120
But if that's the case, that's 
terrible. 

747
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,520
What's up, Senzu? 
Good to see you, man. 

748
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:23,040
Yeah, I don't know, 3 for three 
is a shit show. 3 for three is a

749
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,800
shit show. 
It's absolutely atrocious what 

750
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,000
they were. 
What? 

751
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,800
What's happened with Halo? 
Prove me wrong. 

752
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:32,960
I would happily, happily love to
be wrong. 

753
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,440
Oh, we've got funds are really 
in here Chat. 

754
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,600
We're going to make some memes. 
How smoothly am I going to. 

755
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:42,320
Oh, let me put my camera in so 
you can see my face. 

756
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,720
Oh, shit, shit. 
Must have got this camera. 

757
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:50,000
So funds wait for me, I will 
make the memes. 

758
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,920
It'd be interesting to chop it 
up with Fonz on this whole point

759
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,960
as well actually. 
OK, here we go. 

760
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,120
I'll put the music up a little 
bit because Spotify. 

761
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,480
Oh sorry, Discord, was going to 
start pausing it anyway. 

762
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,920
Captain Chats, you're a lovely 
sexual person, I want to put 

763
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,800
that on the screen. 
Shout out to Captain Chats. 

764
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:18,400
Everyone's give him a nice 
little hug and a * bringing up 

765
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,920
that graphics. 
It might be bullshit though. 

766
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,440
Elenia Analytica. 
I don't trust it. 

767
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,160
I'll be honest with you. 
But if that then it's not out of

768
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,240
the realm or possibility that 
that's those are the kind of 

769
00:44:29,240 --> 00:44:35,040
numbers we're seeing phones. 
I'm just plugging in the camera 

770
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:43,400
so you can see my face and we're
about to make some memes and I'm

771
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,640
going to invite Fonzarelli. 
It's going to be the smoothest 

772
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:55,960
transition in my life. 
Oh, Fonzarelli, Fonzarelli. 

773
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:27,000
you. 
Hey. 

774
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:30,880
You altitude is killing 
yourself. 

775
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,400
I don't even know what to do. 
Can you hear me now, I. 

776
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,120
Can hear you now. 
Can you hear? 

777
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,080
Me. 
We are in. 

778
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,920
We're in the matrix. 
We're plugged in. 

779
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,240
Oh shit, the name tag's right. 
Oh God, I've got my face. 

780
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,240
What's going on here? 
Let me turn the camera on. 

781
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,560
That should fix things, yes. 
There it is. 

782
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,600
I for some reason I've got 2 
versions of me. 

783
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,320
Let me figure figure that out, 
yeah. 

784
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,120
Why am I? 
Figure it out. 

785
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,960
Why am I appearing twice? 
Oh, there he is. 

786
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:07,680
Oh shit, we saw it. 
We saw it at chat, we saw that. 

787
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,760
Has he got that? 
No, all right. 

788
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,040
Head roll. 
Yeah, all. 

789
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:15,480
Right. 
See ya. 

790
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,400
It's going to use my this 
camera, but I'm thinking it's 

791
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:18,040
all right. 
It's all right. 

792
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,760
It's all right. 
It's all right. 

793
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:20,160
How you doing, Fonzie? 
Good. 

794
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,920
Doing great, doing awesome, 
doing fantastic. 

795
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:28,160
Everything's going good, man. 
Thanks for joining us, man. 

796
00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,000
I was in the midst of talking 
about what is going on with Xbox

797
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,320
and exclusivity. 
And it's really handy because 

798
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:39,520
we've got I don't know if you 
can see it on on the stream, but

799
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,080
we've got captain chats have 
brought up this graphic, which 

800
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,280
again, our massive disclaimer. 
Again, I don't know if Alania 

801
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,480
analytical analytics numbers are
on point, but I don't feel like 

802
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:57,280
these numbers are beyond not 
that out there. 

803
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,360
Apparently on PlayStation, 
Starfield has sold 140,000, 

804
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:05,000
which is weird. 
In in one week after Wall Street

805
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:10,880
was 100 sold 160 K total Flight 
SIM has sold 245,000 and Ninja 

806
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:16,320
Gaiden has sold 257,000. 
About South of measly 54K, Age 

807
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:20,600
of Empires 452K and South of 
midnight 16 K Yeah yeah. 

808
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:22,000
And then these. 
Sounds about right. 

809
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:23,560
It does sound right though, 
doesn't it? 

810
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,640
It doesn't seem like it's out of
the realm of possibility. 

811
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,600
That's a really talk to me. 
A lot of people are now you've 

812
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,840
seen the the chatter. 
You know, Jess Corden was saying

813
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:35,840
that basically there's some very
fierce discussions about whether

814
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,720
or not Xbox will bring back 
exclusives. 

815
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:42,400
I am on the square the squarely 
the position of I cannot see it 

816
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:46,320
happening other than some maybe 
timed exclusivity that may 

817
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,120
coincide with the release of the
next console. 

818
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:52,000
But what, what, what do you 
think, 11-D1, what do you think 

819
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,640
will happen? 
And two, what do you think Xbox 

820
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:59,480
should do in this space? 
I personally, OK, so I'm going 

821
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:03,800
to go to the second part. 
Look, I would like to see them 

822
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:08,840
compete again on that exclusive 
level because I think it was 

823
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,920
obviously sort of a mistake for 
them, especially considering how

824
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:17,400
many consoles they sold after 
they decided to put their games 

825
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,320
on PlayStation. 
People just stop buying consoles

826
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,920
from them. 
And there's another part to it 

827
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,920
too. 
It's it's not just the fact that

828
00:48:26,920 --> 00:48:31,360
they don't have exclusivity, 
it's also the fact that most of 

829
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,480
their games. 
A lot of. 

830
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:37,960
People out there have this, the 
notion that they just suck or 

831
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,640
they're just mid and, and they, 
you know, even when the game 

832
00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:45,800
isn't a terrible game, like for 
me, I really like Outer Worlds 

833
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,480
2. 
I I had a a blast playing that 

834
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:49,880
game. 
I think it was better than the 

835
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:54,440
first in in almost all areas 
except for a couple, but that's 

836
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,400
besides the point. 
I thought it was a really good 

837
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,560
game. 
However, there's this stigma 

838
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,280
around Xbox games that I've 
talked about here last time I 

839
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,520
was on your show, where people 
just feel like they're not as 

840
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:09,800
good as some other competitors. 
And outside of things like Forza

841
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:13,880
Horizon, OK, Forza Horizon will 
sell well across the board. 

842
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,120
But as you've seen, even 
Starfield, Starfield's not 

843
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,120
selling so good on PlayStation. 
And one of the big reasons for 

844
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:25,480
that is the fact that that got a
really bad take from a lot of 

845
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,040
people that didn't even play the
game. 

846
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:30,120
They just automatically said 
that game's mid. 

847
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,160
And so many casuals just jumped 
on that and said, yeah, it's it.

848
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:35,960
It's a mid game, I'm not buying 
it. 

849
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,480
And it's like they won't even 
give him a shot. 

850
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,240
And right now there's some 
discourse around even Elder 

851
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:50,000
Scrolls 6 and the possibility of
that game being kind of 

852
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:53,040
overlooked because of certain 
games that are out now, dare I 

853
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,320
say Crimson Desert, things like 
that, that have put a different 

854
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:01,040
spin on the open world genre. 
They, they've gotten so much 

855
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,640
packed into this particular game
that a lot of people are asking,

856
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:09,000
why do we need it? 
I didn't mean to do that. 

857
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:13,200
That was a oh man, why do we 
need an Elder Scrolls 6? 

858
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:18,000
You know, and look, I'm not as 
hyped for Elder Scrolls 6 

859
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:25,560
because of Starfield because of 
what was lacking a bit in that 

860
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,600
game. 
And of course that's the 

861
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,280
exploration. 
You know, we've talked about 

862
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,520
this before you and I I thought 
it was a great game. 

863
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,000
I had a good time with it, but I
think that they just kind of 

864
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,880
oversold it on the exploration 
aspect and it just didn't hit in

865
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,640
that regard. 
But if they would have just 

866
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,480
concentrated on 10 planets and 
didn't have this, you know, 

867
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:52,080
procedural worlds happening for 
1000, I think it would have been

868
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:54,680
much, much better. 
It would have been much better 

869
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,560
received. 
And a lot of people are kind of 

870
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:00,280
looking at it. 
Also the fact that some of it 

871
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:03,680
felt a bit dated in the game, 
like there was some aspects 

872
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,920
about the game that they were 
like this creation engine needs 

873
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:11,160
work and it needs to be. 
It needs to get better and I 

874
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:14,320
think they just hold that over 
to Elder Scrolls 6 as well. 

875
00:51:14,320 --> 00:51:16,600
I myself do it. 
I'm, I'm sitting here like 

876
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:20,000
concerned about Elder Scrolls 6 
because of the creation engine 

877
00:51:20,440 --> 00:51:24,600
and because of other games kind 
of excelling in this open world 

878
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:29,280
genre RPG, if you will. 
So we, you know, there's things 

879
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,120
there. 
But As for Xbox getting back 

880
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:37,720
into exclusivity, I believe what
you said earlier, I think 

881
00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:42,200
they'll do it on a case by case 
basis and and it it, it will be 

882
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,200
timed. 
I don't think it's going to be 

883
00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:48,400
completely exclusive. 
You know these games, if they 

884
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,760
do, they do that. 
I, I just don't see that they, 

885
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,240
they've opened Pandora's box 
that they'll close again. 

886
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:59,320
And I think, you know, the 
beginning, it will be convenient

887
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:01,440
because their development 
timelines may not permit, 

888
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,040
because, you know, later on they
met, they may have started Gears

889
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,920
of War Eden, maybe development a
little bit later on. 

890
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,480
And then the PlayStation version
will come out later after the 

891
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:11,280
fact. 
And so then people will be like,

892
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:14,640
oh, right, OK, you know, and it 
suits them with the launch of 

893
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,720
the next Gen console coming in 
where they can just stagger it. 

894
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,440
And that's, I mean, I don't even
know if Xbox will do even that 

895
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:26,320
because to me it's very clear 
that Xbox just want to that 

896
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:29,640
their user base isn't that 
strong. 

897
00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:36,200
And it would take a very bold 
move from Asha Sharma. 

898
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,600
I think for her for Xbox to do 
that, she would have to fight 

899
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,000
Satya Nadella. 
But Satya Nadella basically 

900
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:45,400
hired her, put her in the place.
And I don't think she has that 

901
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:46,720
kind of fight. 
And I think. 

902
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,640
Here's the thing, I'm glad you 
brought up Asha because I said 

903
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,360
this on my show the other day. 
And no, this is not me glazing 

904
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:59,160
Xbox at all, people. 
But I will say, from what I'm 

905
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,080
hearing from her and what I've 
seen her do so far, I think that

906
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,720
they're better off going with 
Asha instead of Sarah and Phil 

907
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:12,600
the way we were, you know, that 
road we were headed down before.

908
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:17,280
It just seems like she's kind of
doing more right now and trying 

909
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,880
to do more now. 
Actions speak louder than words.

910
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,480
I got to see more action from 
her. 

911
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,800
But so far, I like that she got 
rid of the, you know, this is an

912
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,320
Xbox campaign. 
I thought, you know, we, we both

913
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,760
thought that was kind of silly. 
We've had a lot of fun of that 

914
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,280
behind the scenes too. 
Understatement, but I mean, if 

915
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:40,160
you just look at her attitude 
and the fact that you have this 

916
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:45,600
young person that's got fresh 
eyes on the company, I think 

917
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,280
she's noticing a lot. 
Like the fact that she even 

918
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:51,520
brought up Game Pass in the 
price point at all is, is 

919
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:56,200
something of a miracle for Xbox.
Because honestly, if, if, if the

920
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:58,360
other two were still at the 
helm, I don't think we would 

921
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:02,960
have seen anybody go back and 
revisit any of this stuff. 

922
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:06,280
I don't think they would revisit
the price structure at all. 

923
00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,720
I think they were content with 
it and it was ludicrous. 

924
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:14,120
Because I'll say it again, 
people, I've said it many times,

925
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,200
$30 is just too much for this 
subscription service. 

926
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:21,400
Just way too much, way too much.
So I do see a lot of things that

927
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,560
she's trying to get right. 
And I applaud her for that. 

928
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,720
I hope she does again, actions 
speak louder. 

929
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:32,720
I want to see her do more, but 
she I think she's saying a lot 

930
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:36,720
of the right things so far. 
And this is not a knock on Phil 

931
00:54:36,720 --> 00:54:38,800
per SE. 
Don't don't get me wrong people.

932
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,840
I think Phil, the last couple 
years for what I've been told 

933
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:47,040
this Phil kind of just was in 
that, you know, I'm about to 

934
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:52,720
retire mode and I, I again, 
anytime you put a fresh new pair

935
00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:55,520
of eyes in there that actually 
look for things like this and 

936
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,560
they're speaking about it's a 
good idea. 

937
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:03,000
This I, I, I think it so far, I 
think it's, it's doing well for 

938
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:04,440
them. 
Absolutely. 

939
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,480
I think, I think she's, I mean, 
speaking is one thing that at 

940
00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,400
the end of the day, she will be 
judged for her comment and her 

941
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,320
ability to back those words. 
So obviously it's easy to have, 

942
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,040
you know, this is the honeymoon 
period for Asha Sharma in terms 

943
00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:20,880
of the statement she's saying. 
And a lot of things are lining 

944
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,200
up with the Xboxes, you know, 
road map. 

945
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,760
They've got really good, like 
Gears of Warness. 

946
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,280
Berries. 
Personal. 

947
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,920
It's parasocial. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

948
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,560
I've never even talked to Asha 
before Paris. 

949
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,040
Like she doesn't follow me. 
Phil never followed me, so I had

950
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,560
none of that going on. 
But at the end of the day, you 

951
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:44,400
know, this whole parish social 
thing, I think it's blown out of

952
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,480
proportion for sure. 
But there was some of that going

953
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,600
on with certain content 
creators. 

954
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:54,440
But yeah, I of course it was 
blown out of proportion as well.

955
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,800
Tom Henderson was telling me 
about the way some of the 

956
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,960
parasocial stuff was was 
happening. 

957
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,560
And I was like, Oh my God, it 
was so lame. 

958
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,760
So lame. 
I mean, look, I get it, people 

959
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,760
are fans of stuff and and all 
that, but. 

960
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,240
Yeah, it's like celebrities to 
them. 

961
00:56:10,240 --> 00:56:11,520
Yeah. 
Yeah, so lame. 

962
00:56:11,720 --> 00:56:13,560
It's so lame. 
These are not gaming execs as 

963
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,200
well and I think it's just. 
Yeah, I know. 

964
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:20,560
Like I'll just say that I'm, I'm
not going to name any name, but 

965
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,720
you know, shout out to Web Dave.
I'll name that name because he 

966
00:56:23,720 --> 00:56:26,640
was one of the guys. 
There was this one moment I 

967
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:32,280
remember last year during Fan 
Fantast at a specific lobby 

968
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:36,520
everybody likes to hang out at. 
As soon as Phil and Sarah come 

969
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:40,440
in, you see a group of men just 
go swarming. 

970
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,960
I'm just walking so fast towards
them and I remember looking over

971
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:50,080
at Web Dave and Web Dave looks 
at me and he goes, I ain't doing

972
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,320
that. 
And I said thank you. 

973
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,280
Thank you Dave. 
Exactly. 

974
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,960
Let them live. 
Let them live in peace. 

975
00:56:55,960 --> 00:56:58,680
Shout out to web Dave. 
Shout out to web Dave. 

976
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,040
Kept it real, you know, he's a 
big massive Xbox fan, but even 

977
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,840
still, he thought I draw the 
line running off towards just to

978
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,280
sign off. 
I still make fun of John from 

979
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:13,160
Xbox here or whatever they're 
called now because what they 

980
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:17,040
call now I forgot. 
Day one, Day one. 

981
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,520
Day one, yeah. 
And you know, when I was at 

982
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:23,200
Gamescom, I still rinse and I'm 
like, you lined up for about a 

983
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,640
good two hours to because they 
had a book. 

984
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,720
So they were getting the Xbox 
book that they were selling. 

985
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:31,800
But at the same time, like, 
there's no fucking way I'm 

986
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,880
waiting. 
I'm not even bro. 

987
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,600
He needs to come up to see me, 
bro. 

988
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,000
Like, why? 
He's exec, he's selling the 

989
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:39,240
game. 
Why am I rushing? 

990
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,880
Oh, Phil, thank you for the all 
the broken promises. 

991
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,480
Yeah, yeah. 
Thank you, Exclusive Snowman. 

992
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,080
It's. 
Not. 

993
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,240
Yeah, you know, and I and I hate
to you know, I don't mean to 

994
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,960
like point at people and and be 
like, yeah, that's kind of 

995
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,760
ridiculous. 
But again, at the same time, you

996
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,720
know, when these execs, they 
have lives too, they're, they're

997
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,280
coming down there to have a 
coffee or, or, or talk to some 

998
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,360
people. 
You know, I don't think they 

999
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:05,600
want to be rushed every time. 
They're, you know, that's just 

1000
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,240
why they might. 
Love it, they might love. 

1001
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:14,000
It they might love it, I don't 
know, but it's again looking 

1002
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:16,480
over at web Dave. 
I'm like, this is crazy, right? 

1003
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,640
And he's like, I'm not doing 
that. 

1004
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:21,800
And I'm like, it was so good. 
It was so funny. 

1005
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:23,480
Dave, you remember when that 
happened? 

1006
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,240
It was hilarious. 
They loved them. 

1007
00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:27,680
What's up group? 
They just follow each other 

1008
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,480
like, oh, we're there. 
This is the updating each other.

1009
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,920
This is where things are. 
It's just like, look, I get it. 

1010
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,960
Look, you might have gazed and 
followed. 

1011
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,840
You guys are being Dick heads. 
We love this stuff and we follow

1012
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:38,520
it really good. 
And you know, we're really 

1013
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:41,320
passionate about it. 
That's absolutely fine. 

1014
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,000
But we're entitled to think 
that's fucking weird behaviour, 

1015
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:47,360
bruv. 
And I feel like when you're 

1016
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,600
inclined that way, then your 
coverage, Like I met Aaron 

1017
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,960
Greenberg at games.com and I was
joking about with him, but I had

1018
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,560
my pony hat. 
But see, there's a difference 

1019
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:59,600
here. 
People like like Aaron, people 

1020
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,120
like Jason, Ronald even. 
He'll come over to you. 

1021
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,440
Yeah. 
He's really about meeting people

1022
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,680
and, you know, talking to Xbox 
fanatics and stuff. 

1023
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:09,280
Yeah. 
I mean. 

1024
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,160
Came up to me, Yeah. 
He was like, hey guys, I'm like,

1025
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,720
oh shit, I'm surprised you know 
who I am because of course I 

1026
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,120
know you are, he said. 
I wish I could say the things 

1027
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,280
you say, but carry on keeping 
our feet, the fire, holding your

1028
00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,160
feet to the fire. 
I don't know whether or not 

1029
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,520
that's true or not, but it was 
nice of him to say and but when 

1030
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:25,640
I had the pony, it's. 
True. 

1031
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,040
It's true. 
Yeah, they, they do. 

1032
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:31,400
They do peek in from time to 
time in, in various shows like 

1033
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,240
they do. 
Yeah, they, they hear, they they

1034
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,720
see clips. 
That's true. 

1035
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,840
I think they have to keep their 
their, their air on the ground 

1036
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:38,560
as well. 
You wouldn't. 

1037
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,600
I had my pony mask. 
I'm like, can you step on it? 

1038
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:43,840
He's like, I can't do that. 
I put that posted up on Twitter.

1039
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,200
He was a fun, fun guy. 
But generally, I think Asha 

1040
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:50,200
Sharma is now you've got people 
really going into Asha Sharma. 

1041
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,000
They really love the whole 
thing. 

1042
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,800
Look at Paris, it's true fucking
passion. 

1043
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:00,000
But you know, Paris does know 
them on a level. 

1044
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:01,560
Paris is one of those who just. 
Paris. 

1045
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,360
Paris is different though. 
Paris is very chill at those 

1046
01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:06,040
things. 
Yeah, I saw Paris. 

1047
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:06,760
He. 
Was. 

1048
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,920
He came out with us. 
Instead of going to that, he 

1049
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,400
went to that meeting and said 
yeah, it was nice. 

1050
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:11,960
And then he came out to us and 
we had dinner. 

1051
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:16,040
And Paris is not like that. 
Paris is chill, Paris is cool. 

1052
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,800
Yeah, he's real chill. 
He's on, he's on. 

1053
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:19,520
People come up to Paris all the 
time. 

1054
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:22,400
They're like, oh, Paris, yeah. 
It's so good to meet you, you 

1055
01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,400
know? 
And I'll, and I'll say Cognito. 

1056
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,000
Cognito is like, he's very like 
he's part of, he's into the 

1057
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,480
source, really like everything. 
Any game dev meeting, all 

1058
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,240
publishers, he has his business 
hat on and he's so active, it's 

1059
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,120
ridiculous. 
It's not parasocial. 

1060
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,000
He's just going out there 
grinding. 

1061
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,240
Oh, Cognito is all about making 
that content, Yeah. 

1062
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:43,720
Which you know, networking 
should be perfect. 

1063
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,480
King, king as well. 
King as well. 

1064
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,240
King as well. 
King, absolutely. 

1065
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:49,480
Those guys have got their head 
screwed on right when it comes 

1066
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,600
to the whole networking. 
They treat you like a business. 

1067
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:55,000
They've got an LLC. 
And so that's different to a 

1068
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,080
bunch of like guys who just 
absolutely worship these execs. 

1069
01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,560
But Asha Sharma is going to 
start field a little bit of that

1070
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:06,480
love coming her way and. 
I hope I please people like I'm 

1071
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,400
going to see you guys out there.
You know what? 

1072
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,960
We'll break bread and stuff. 
But please leave Asha alone. 

1073
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,840
Don't don't rush her every 
chance you possibly get. 

1074
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,880
Like let her live. 
Let her live. 

1075
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,320
Bro, Asha Sama, you know she's 
not a very pretty lady as well, 

1076
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,720
so you're going to get the Xbox 
guys doubling down on just 

1077
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,120
making sure they're being 
creepy. 

1078
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:30,480
Hopefully not, but you know, 
Asha Sama's also she's she's you

1079
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:34,120
know what I've I even though 
like I feel like I'm hesitant to

1080
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:36,320
give her her credit, but I 
shouldn't be. 

1081
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,200
I should really assess her based
on what she's done and so far 

1082
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:42,320
she's just said stuff other than
cancel the Xbox. 

1083
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,360
This is an Xbox ad, even though 
let's be honest, in reality. 

1084
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:49,080
Yeah, Paris said it. 
Yeah, she's going to be Russian.

1085
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:53,000
Yeah, I know, I know Paris. 
And I feel so bad because I, I 

1086
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:54,480
mean, she'll probably welcome 
it. 

1087
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,480
Don't, don't get me wrong, she 
seems like a nice person, but 

1088
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:00,040
there's got to be a certain 
point where you're like, OK, can

1089
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:04,240
people just back off a bit? 
Like, I mean, I, I guess they 

1090
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,120
expect that in their, you know, 
positions though when they're 

1091
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,800
out and about. 
Is what it is in terms of people

1092
01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:12,720
actually loving our people. 
You'll never change that. 

1093
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,720
People evangelise certain 
people, they look up. 

1094
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:22,120
To BT, Mavericks said I'm going 
to rush BT You will be out there

1095
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,120
and you'll be one of those guys 
doing that fast walk. 

1096
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,240
It's not a run. 
It's like this little fast walk.

1097
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:29,040
They're like, Oh my God, there's
Phil Spencer. 

1098
01:02:32,040 --> 01:02:39,600
Oh man, let the man have his tea
and crumpets or whatever how 

1099
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,840
he's doing right there. 
I saw that when Jason Ronald was

1100
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,720
there delivering the thing on 
GDC and I just like bro, I just 

1101
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:48,160
like Tom. 
Please just go. 

1102
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,080
Tom was just turned around that 
got the inside of gaming crew 

1103
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,040
don't give a shit about. 
Didn't run over there, huh I? 

1104
01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:54,880
Didn't even, I didn't even go up
to speak. 

1105
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,440
I just went the opposite way. 
I'm like, look, look, I'm not a 

1106
01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,360
journalist. 
There's. 

1107
01:02:59,360 --> 01:03:02,400
Something wrong with, you know, 
Like if he's there to talk to 

1108
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,680
people, you walk up trying to 
learn things. 

1109
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,080
There's nothing wrong with that.
I agree with you, but I I will 

1110
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:11,680
say like a part of Insider 
gaming, there's also an element 

1111
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,480
of look, I get it. 
I'm a personal troll and you 

1112
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,960
know, I'm very extroverted. 
I love to meet people and talk 

1113
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,080
to people. 
I even message Jason Ronald if 

1114
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:20,600
want to grab a drink or 
something. 

1115
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:25,040
We can have a just chat chat 
about stuff but not rushing 

1116
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,200
people up like. 
That there's a difference 

1117
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:29,200
between like what you saw with 
Jason. 

1118
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,920
Jason was there to talk to the 
people after the show. 

1119
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,720
That's different. 
Now. 

1120
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:36,520
I'm talking about when these 
people are just trying to sit 

1121
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:39,280
and have a drink and they're 
talking amongst each other, 

1122
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,880
other executives and stuff. 
And then you got guys, 40 year 

1123
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,960
old men just freaking sashaying 
over there, you know, it's just 

1124
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,920
like. 
Let me say one thing, 

1125
01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:51,760
PlayStation guys will make fun 
of this. 

1126
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,520
But if PlayStation guys. 
Actually do it too of. 

1127
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:56,160
Course they would. 
I don't. 

1128
01:03:56,160 --> 01:03:58,400
I don't wanna hear that. 
Ohh, you know, would. 

1129
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:02,240
Dude, look, they have to leave 
the house. 

1130
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,440
They don't leave the houses. 
That's the one thing. 

1131
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,400
They'll make fun of fan Fest in 
general, even take the 

1132
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:11,480
parasocial stuff away. 
Let's say the execs didn't even 

1133
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:14,080
show up there. 
Let's say you were just, you 

1134
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,960
know, in there. 
You get some swag, you go watch 

1135
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,720
the show, you leave. 
You know what? 

1136
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,120
They would do the same thing, 
but they make fun of that aspect

1137
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:25,040
too. 
Well look at all these Xbox 

1138
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,120
getting together to watch and 
have a watch party. 

1139
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,800
They used to do the same shit. 
It was called the Sony 

1140
01:04:30,120 --> 01:04:32,680
PlayStation Experience or 
something back in the day. 

1141
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,640
I think it was like PlayStation 
Experience. 

1142
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:36,680
I believe that's what they call 
it. 

1143
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:39,600
Paris might know. 
They used to do this kind of 

1144
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:41,000
stuff for their face of. 
Course they would. 

1145
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,080
They, they, they would you, they
throw him a bone and they would,

1146
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,720
they would worship, they worship
Mock Sunny. 

1147
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,960
They would absolutely lick 
Herman Holst chin if he said 

1148
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,720
something, you know. 
Well, actually I don't know if 

1149
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,840
they like Herman Holst because 
of the whole Killing Blue .0 

1150
01:04:56,840 --> 01:05:00,080
that they forgot about that and 
I think they've just now they 

1151
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,920
love him now. 
Because I almost want to do like

1152
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:06,400
a, you know, like a documentary 
of, of the J dub lobby, you 

1153
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:07,680
know, I'll be staying there 
anyway. 

1154
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:11,680
So like just do a whole 
narrative documentary on this, 

1155
01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:14,000
you know, get get Paris to 
narrate as well. 

1156
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,800
Tom's actually considering doing
a battery on the just chaos that

1157
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,280
goes on at the J dub. 
It's crazy about it. 

1158
01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,760
Yeah. 
They, they're, you know, Cullen.

1159
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:28,160
Perhaps they're just jealous. 
There is an element, I will be 

1160
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,920
honest, of jealousy with the 
PlayStation guys because they 

1161
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,360
get annoyed. 
They get annoyed when people get

1162
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,760
coverage of stuff. 
I will be honest that I found 

1163
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:41,640
the Xbox sweaters and the gift 
basket really kind of cheese, 

1164
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,840
really cheese. 
And the Paris was posting it to 

1165
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,920
people. 
I thought it was cheesy as fuck.

1166
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:48,520
OK hi. 
So. 

1167
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:52,760
So, Ashley, you signed my name. 
So here's a couple of things, 

1168
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:54,120
right? 
I could see both sides of the 

1169
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,520
coin here. 
I understand that. 

1170
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,640
You can look at that and go, 
man, it's cringe that they're 

1171
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,720
giving certain content creators 
this stuff. 

1172
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,440
And it's like, because you, you 
feel like certain content 

1173
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,120
creators are just doing more 
work for them for free, you 

1174
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,680
know, but at the same time, 
that's the point for these 

1175
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,360
businesses. 
They, they want these content 

1176
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:18,720
creators to show off this stuff 
and to be hype for the brand. 

1177
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,480
And I get it. 
Like I, I get it from their 

1178
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:24,560
perspective. 
Hey, these are the people out 

1179
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:28,360
there that make a lot of noise 
that a lot of even casualty from

1180
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,880
time to time. 
And if we push this Helix now we

1181
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:34,520
get the ball rolling. 
This will be nothing but help in

1182
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:36,600
the long run. 
And I and I get that it's 

1183
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:40,080
business. 
I I but, but I again, I see the 

1184
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:44,520
other side of the coin too, from
the aspect of it could be kind 

1185
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:49,120
of cringe or whatever, But 
again, it's business for them, 

1186
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:50,440
man. 
It's I get the. 

1187
01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,720
Business element of it and yeah,
you know, Epic Treasure mentions

1188
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,120
that it's kind of it's a shame 
how little PlayStation has a 

1189
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,320
connection with their community 
because but the PlayStation 

1190
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:01,800
community just shows for free 
and any little element. 

1191
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:05,880
But the PlayStation community, 
they'll buy PlayStation Nikes 

1192
01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,800
for $200, you know what I'm 
saying? 

1193
01:07:07,800 --> 01:07:10,200
They'll pay for it, they'll buy,
but they'll make fun of you for 

1194
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,880
getting it for free. 
It makes no sense. 

1195
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,560
Like honestly, at the end of the
day, it's jealousy. 

1196
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,760
We know that to be like a lot of
this stuff where people are 

1197
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:23,040
like, Oh my God, I can't believe
they're getting stuff because 

1198
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,640
they're jealous. 
Like it's, it's painfully 

1199
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:27,640
obvious. 
It's so obviously some of these 

1200
01:07:27,640 --> 01:07:29,840
people, you've seen them and the
execs have come on their shows 

1201
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:33,600
from PlayStation, Sony execs, 
and they're just X execs, alumni

1202
01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,800
even, and they're just like 
waxing lyrical. 

1203
01:07:36,040 --> 01:07:39,760
Yeah, I love Sean. 
And it's just like, OK, no, you 

1204
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:42,600
know, different from them. 
And then I know for fact some of

1205
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,920
these losers would absolutely 
suck off places 100% but they 

1206
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,000
don't give the time of the day 
because even the PlayStation 

1207
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,280
execs look at them and think 
they're fucking weird. 

1208
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,920
No, but that's what but that's 
the the way you view it because 

1209
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,360
you see certain people, you're 
like, oh, that guy sucks off 

1210
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,000
Microsoft all the time. 
No wonder he got that box. 

1211
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,040
Wow, cringe. 
But there's very many other 

1212
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:04,720
content creators that don't, and
they got that box. 

1213
01:08:04,840 --> 01:08:05,640
Yeah. 
That's true. 

1214
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:09,280
So, so, so it's just like, you 
know, it's business for them, 

1215
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:10,520
OK. 
Harris says. 

1216
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,800
I want to wear that hoodie just 
to wear that hoodie. 

1217
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,920
Just to piss them off. 
Best believe if they gave me a 

1218
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,479
free Helix hoodie I'm going to 
be wearing it. 

1219
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,040
I don't give a fuck, I'm going 
to do it. 

1220
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:24,000
Yeah, but it's just the the the 
foolie of the oh, Asha signed 

1221
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,080
this. 
Thank you so much, Asha. 

1222
01:08:25,279 --> 01:08:27,840
Like some people could do it and
you know, like that's fine, but 

1223
01:08:28,279 --> 01:08:30,680
I don't know, I just find it 
weird. 

1224
01:08:31,240 --> 01:08:34,439
I felt like when I was at GDC 
pop inside the game, we can't 

1225
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,600
really do that. 
What's funny is I saw 

1226
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,880
Christopher drink. 
I'll take any free swag. 

1227
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,479
You know me. 
I was Mr IGN two years ago, 

1228
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:43,640
Christopher, drinking free swag.
I wore it. 

1229
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,000
I saw Christopher drink at GDC 
and he was lined up at the Xbox 

1230
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,000
booth without the older classic 
Xbox stuff, and he was lining up

1231
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:55,359
Xbox flag and I was like, I 
could so tweet this right now. 

1232
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:57,800
And then you're like, yo, look 
at Christmas drink. 

1233
01:08:57,800 --> 01:09:00,800
He's just lighting up. 
He loves Xbox freebie stuff, but

1234
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:04,520
shits on the well, I wasn't a 
Dick, although I've kind of just

1235
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,000
give it loud, the loud the 
truth. 

1236
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:09,160
But yeah, you know, look, it's a
balance. 

1237
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,680
I get it what it is. 
I just felt like, Oh my God, 

1238
01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,319
that's so, so lame. 
I felt, I felt it was lame and I

1239
01:09:15,319 --> 01:09:18,160
felt like you've. 
Got as as you should brother, as

1240
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:21,120
you should wear that. 
I'm wearing the the Healy City 

1241
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,560
next week at the Forza Horizon 
event in Tokyo. 

1242
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,200
Look, it's different. 
The way you do it is different. 

1243
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,120
But at the same time, you know 
you're going to Tokyo again and 

1244
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:30,399
get you're doing coverage for 
Forza Horizon 6. 

1245
01:09:30,399 --> 01:09:32,240
That's amazing. 
You get to fly out and you get 

1246
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:35,960
to do all that stuff, but you 
know, it's it's a balance that 

1247
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,279
they need to strike. 
But the content creators that do

1248
01:09:38,279 --> 01:09:41,520
that, they play with fire. 
I I genuinely believe that in 

1249
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,760
the manner in which they do it. 
Some people are they, you know, 

1250
01:09:43,760 --> 01:09:46,279
they're known shills and they 
will go ahead and do that. 

1251
01:09:46,439 --> 01:09:49,479
Some people are a cocuse of 
being shills like Paris, but 

1252
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,760
Paris can be can say the 
opposite of something. 

1253
01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:53,319
Paris. 
Your clips have been doing the 

1254
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:57,160
rounds about the exclusivity 
point lately. 

1255
01:09:57,160 --> 01:09:59,440
I was I mentioned it to Paris. 
I'm like, holy shit. 

1256
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:02,240
They just took that bit where he
was basically talking about the 

1257
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:05,720
Xbox console and they just yeah,
they'll clip it. 

1258
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,800
The sad, sad people that they 
are. 

1259
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,200
And I'm sure there's more 
context to it. 

1260
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:12,080
But generally, though, I will 
say, but not Paris not directed 

1261
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,440
at Paris, but there's other 
people who really were defending

1262
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,800
Xbox's U-turn. 
They just parrot whatever tune 

1263
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,560
Xbox sings. 
They will echo that, Yeah. 

1264
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,360
And I that is the point I don't 
like and that they are, well, me

1265
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,840
and you know. 
Yeah, yeah, they'll basically 

1266
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:32,480
they'll fight with you if you 
have a dissenting opinion of 

1267
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:35,960
what Xbox is doing, no matter 
what, even if they do a total 

1268
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,840
180 and and you then they'll be 
like joining you. 

1269
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,320
Oh yeah, it's this is what they 
should have done. 

1270
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:46,160
You're you're totally right. 
Like, yeah, Xbox did it. 

1271
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:50,200
So yeah, it's it's good. 
There's, there's a lot of people

1272
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:54,160
like that, but I don't, I don't 
pay those people too much mind 

1273
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,320
anymore. 
Like I used to argue a lot with 

1274
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,200
people on Twitter. 
And so I just don't. 

1275
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:01,680
It's just I, I've grown out of 
that the last couple of years. 

1276
01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:05,920
Like I don't need that BS. 
It's it's ridiculous. 

1277
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:09,720
I I mean, at the moment, I feel 
like I'm massively vindicated by

1278
01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:12,480
watching the very same people 
like going out there trying to 

1279
01:11:12,480 --> 01:11:15,400
retrofit their arguments about 
exclusivity because genuinely, 

1280
01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:18,160
you, you are aligning with 
whether the marching orders of 

1281
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:22,120
your platform what is doing and 
you're just justifying it. 

1282
01:11:22,120 --> 01:11:24,600
And I just don't like that. 
And now everyone is talking 

1283
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:26,000
about it. 
And now it's very clear. 

1284
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:29,280
I'm sorry, it's very clear. 
The moment you've got a glimpse 

1285
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,400
of a potential that Xbox might 
U-turn on exclusives. 

1286
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:36,240
And then, you know, Jess Corden 
talks about, you know, what's 

1287
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:39,800
going on here. 
People are like, yes, let's go 

1288
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:40,880
back, let's go. 
Back to get. 

1289
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,800
Exclusive the top comment on 
every like the Matt Booty 

1290
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,200
interview was bring back 
exclusive bring back exclusive 

1291
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,400
Why? 
Because your identity is tied to

1292
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:52,880
it and you know, a lot of people
may not agree with that point, 

1293
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:57,760
but I just think ultimately Xbox
has to do if Xbox wants to be 

1294
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,080
something in the space and it 
look I'm. 

1295
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:01,840
Sure. 
That's something that you and I,

1296
01:12:02,080 --> 01:12:04,200
OK. 
So you and I talk pretty much 

1297
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,160
daily. 
And so we've been talking about 

1298
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,760
exclusivity for a while. 
And at one point I used to argue

1299
01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:12,200
with you all the time. 
Like now I don't think it's that

1300
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:15,520
important, you know, it's, it's,
it's the, the importance of it 

1301
01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:19,680
has has waned so much. 
Like they don't need everything 

1302
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:23,160
to be exclusive. 
But I've, the last year I've 

1303
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,960
been changing my mind on that 
and telling you, hey, you know, 

1304
01:12:26,520 --> 01:12:29,040
I, I think you're right, you 
know, and we had this talk 

1305
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:32,520
months ago before any of this 
stuff, you know, came out from 

1306
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:36,320
Xbox or anything. 
That's I, I just changed my mind

1307
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,440
on it because they started 
looking at everything and going 

1308
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:44,000
man, it really has made an 
impact on Xbox's console sales 

1309
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:49,920
like extremely like it's hurt 
them so bad and. 

1310
01:12:49,960 --> 01:12:51,440
The perception of it I'm not. 
Why would? 

1311
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:54,800
You want the perception and then
and and again. 

1312
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,080
You have to look, a lot of 
people aren't going to like 

1313
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,840
this. 
But I, I'm going to kind of 

1314
01:13:00,840 --> 01:13:02,760
reiterate, but I've been saying 
this for a while. 

1315
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,520
I said that the last time I was 
on your show too. 

1316
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,720
And people, Xbox guys don't like
it when they say this. 

1317
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:12,680
But I think what Mikey Barra 
said the other day is 100% 

1318
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,320
right. 
I think they need to focus on 

1319
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:20,160
making great games. 
I think they need to, they need 

1320
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:24,320
to focus on making games that do
appeal to a broader audience. 

1321
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,960
I've stated that for many months
because I believe that I've say 

1322
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:31,240
that for a year now, like I've 
been saying that they need to 

1323
01:13:31,240 --> 01:13:34,160
just focus on making some 
fantastic game. 

1324
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,880
New IP, not just your Halo, 
Gears and Forces. 

1325
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:42,520
You need some new IP. 
That's why with Fable, I really 

1326
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:44,560
hope Fable stands strong on its 
own. 

1327
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,760
I, I hope it really does well 
because even though this is an 

1328
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:52,240
established franchise, it's kind
of something new because a lot 

1329
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,240
of the the gamers today probably
haven't even played the original

1330
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:59,320
Fables. 
And also it's, it's such a 

1331
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,240
refreshing, like revamp of the 
game. 

1332
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:07,360
So hopefully it does really well
because that's what they need. 

1333
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:11,680
They need new IP that honestly 
appealed to a lot of people on 

1334
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:13,480
sell. 
At the end of the day, if you're

1335
01:14:13,480 --> 01:14:15,840
going to put this on other 
consoles with, you know, where 

1336
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:20,000
sales matter, you got to sell 
those games. 

1337
01:14:21,320 --> 01:14:23,800
Because I look at Xbox and I'm 
like, they've gotten to the 

1338
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:26,120
point where game passes 
everything for them. 

1339
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:31,600
And it's kind of changed a lot 
of Xbox's perception, their fan 

1340
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:37,480
base in how they consume games. 
They don't necessarily buy many 

1341
01:14:37,480 --> 01:14:39,320
games anymore. 
They just consume them through 

1342
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:41,960
Game Pass, which is, look, 
that's their thing. 

1343
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:46,120
I understand why you do it. 
But at the end of the day, they 

1344
01:14:46,120 --> 01:14:48,760
got to understand that they've 
also completely changed their 

1345
01:14:48,760 --> 01:14:53,760
mindset on the value proposition
of these games, on the value of 

1346
01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:57,000
these games alone. 
Because you're telling me that 

1347
01:14:57,000 --> 01:15:02,280
these games, they're OK enough 
to put in a, you know, a 30 

1348
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:06,560
million, you know, subscription 
service, you know, subscriber 

1349
01:15:06,560 --> 01:15:08,680
service. 
And, and that's that they're 

1350
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,920
just that good enough, but 
they're not good enough to, to, 

1351
01:15:11,960 --> 01:15:16,760
to, to buy or, you know, because
that's the mindset people have 

1352
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:18,600
changed. 
They, they've decided not to buy

1353
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,640
games anymore. 
They've just decided to use Game

1354
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,200
Pass. 
I mean, you, you've got people 

1355
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:25,200
like Doc Dark in here that'll 
tell you Game Pass is such a 

1356
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,520
great value. 
I use Game Pass all the time 

1357
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,040
when it comes to Xbox. 
That's what he's doing. 

1358
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:33,240
That's what most people are 
doing on Xbox. 

1359
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:37,280
They're not buying games and. 
Good to see. 

1360
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,000
You and that's the thing though,
not only their consoles have 

1361
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:44,400
stagnated sales but also Game 
Pass subscriptions have 

1362
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,960
stagnated. 
So where do you grow outside of 

1363
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,200
that? 
I understand that's why they try

1364
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,680
to put games on other platforms 
and sell them. 

1365
01:15:52,440 --> 01:15:56,120
That makes sense if those games 
didn't have that stigma around 

1366
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,400
them of being mid games, Yeah, 
that is their problem. 

1367
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:03,480
They need to concentrate on 
making some games that appeal to

1368
01:16:03,480 --> 01:16:06,960
more people because. 
So that's, this is the tweet I 

1369
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,360
think you're alluding to. 
And I think, yeah, I agree 

1370
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:11,920
largely, he says. 
I, in my opinion, I don't know 

1371
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:15,000
what the deleted post was, but 
he replied, he goes, the focus 

1372
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:17,520
is on the wrong thing. 
If this is even a reality which 

1373
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,840
I question, they need to figure 
out how they continue to fail to

1374
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:24,120
make great Epic Games, the 
studios who should be pumping 

1375
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:27,360
out 90 rated games regularly. 
Consistently making good games 

1376
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:29,560
has to be the number one goal 
and something is very broken 

1377
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:33,640
with that capability at Xbox. 
With great games comes a much 

1378
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,840
easier decision on platform 
strategy and ultimately a 

1379
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:37,600
positive and growing profit and 
loss. 

1380
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,880
And I think he's right there. 
I think This is why when we keep

1381
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:44,320
saying that the one game we keep
moving the the goal post shifts 

1382
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,640
to the next game because the the
you know, Starfield didn't hit 

1383
01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:48,320
the 90. 
And I thought that was a bit 

1384
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:52,520
that was a misstep like the Xbox
desperately needed that 90 plus 

1385
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,880
Forza Horizon 6 looks good. 
It's still a racer. 

1386
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,280
And I get it. 
A lot of people like, oh, it's 

1387
01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,520
just a racer and still, but it 
still speaks to the value value 

1388
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:02,520
of it. 
Then Forza Horizon 3 is a Forza 

1389
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,840
Horizon five Storey is the last 
game that hit 90 plus meta. 

1390
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:09,400
But is, are they just a 1 trick?
The pony with their races can 

1391
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:12,280
only get those 90 plus. 
That's why there's a lot of 

1392
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:16,800
pressure on Fable to do that. 
We had some rumours suggesting 

1393
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,320
and this is now another thing. 
So Fable needs to kind of hit 

1394
01:17:21,320 --> 01:17:23,360
that bar. 
I really think it really should 

1395
01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:25,880
hit that bar. 
I think that, you know, a lot of

1396
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,760
people like to bemoan what 
Metacritic does. 

1397
01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:31,040
And I get it, I get it. 
There's it's it's a nuanced 

1398
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:34,960
topic because I know medically 
isn't the be all and end all of 

1399
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:37,680
stuff. 
Like, you know, it's like if you

1400
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:40,280
it was you're enjoying Crimson 
Desert and where's Crimson 

1401
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,840
Desert now in 78? 
Yeah. 

1402
01:17:42,840 --> 01:17:46,600
So it's like, I think it's 
replaced and you know, and I've 

1403
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:48,920
had cholesterol protocol. 
I love that game. 

1404
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:50,640
And that's around about then I 
think. 

1405
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,640
And I thought that was a 
brilliant game. 

1406
01:17:52,640 --> 01:17:54,800
So it's not obviously it 
doesn't, you know, it's not 

1407
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,280
gospel, but at the same time, 
you can't ignore it. 

1408
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:01,800
I also saw at the Xbox store 
that they had a meta the game 

1409
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:06,840
being shown and the meta score 
being shown for the game. 

1410
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:10,120
So they've been integrated into 
the into the UI and I'm like, 

1411
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:13,360
oh, wow, that's interesting. 
Bold for Xbox to do. 

1412
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:16,240
I think Xbox generally have good
quality now. 

1413
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,600
Their quality has been generally
really good. 

1414
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,520
Like as the publishers get into 
speed, you know you've had doom 

1415
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:25,040
that done really well and you 
avowed has done those scores. 

1416
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:28,200
I know, but if game passes and 
growing because of that good 

1417
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:31,960
quality or they're not selling 
games on other platforms, what 

1418
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:33,440
do they do? 
It's that stigma. 

1419
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:36,480
I'm telling you, there's a 
stigma around Xbox games, 

1420
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:39,160
whether you think they're 
quality or not, whether they are

1421
01:18:39,160 --> 01:18:40,800
or not. 
But I think I think the most. 

1422
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:45,760
People out there are just like, 
oh brother, I'm not playing Xbox

1423
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:46,200
games. 
I. 

1424
01:18:46,360 --> 01:18:49,040
Think, I think that's that's a 
bit strong in terms of how 

1425
01:18:49,040 --> 01:18:51,000
people have a distaste towards 
Xbox games. 

1426
01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:55,600
I think more than the reality 
aligns with, oh, OK, it's not 

1427
01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:59,240
like, oh, that's an Xbox game. 
Like you know what PlayStation 

1428
01:18:59,240 --> 01:19:02,160
exclusives come out. 
They have a much more solid 

1429
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:04,280
track record in terms of their 
big hitters, right? 

1430
01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:07,560
Hitting, permeating and 
penetrating the 90 meta Scorp 

1431
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:09,000
thing. 
You had spider man 2 which I 

1432
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,960
don't really haven't played. 
But again, it's that mindset 

1433
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:13,840
too. 
You got to understand, even for,

1434
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,800
you know, most gamers out there,
they they just they 

1435
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,920
automatically think, oh 
PlayStation, they have better 

1436
01:19:18,920 --> 01:19:22,400
games no matter what, but. 
That but that, but that, but 

1437
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,760
that's as a result. 
Of how do you change that mind 

1438
01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,960
generation? 
Yeah, I know, but but but that 

1439
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:31,080
is that is the the the the 
biggest crutch of the issue 

1440
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:33,680
here. 
How does Asha get around that? 

1441
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,480
Well this is where I agree with 
you that they need to have a lot

1442
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:39,760
more 90 plus bangers. 
I think that's the only way. 

1443
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,200
That that. 
Yeah, yeah, I think Fabled needs

1444
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,880
to really hit the mark and then 
you need to have other and, and 

1445
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,360
this is not saying that they're 
not going to do it and they 

1446
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:51,600
can't do it. 
No, I think a lot of their 

1447
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,440
studios are very capable, aside 
from Halo studios. 

1448
01:19:54,440 --> 01:19:57,320
They fucking suck. 
Anyways, I didn't say that. 

1449
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:00,520
Anyways, I've been saying that 
for years. 

1450
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,720
Remember we used to argue about 
3-4 three. 

1451
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,120
They used to tell you they were 
terrible and you were like, no, 

1452
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,240
they're not. 
I'm like. 

1453
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:09,240
No, no, they said I didn't write
off Halo Infinite. 

1454
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:10,960
This is before Halo Infinite 
even came out. 

1455
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:13,440
And I said, look, they, they 
just, they did some bits right. 

1456
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,120
They were wrong. 
And then I had to come out and 

1457
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:18,720
say, you know what, actually, 
you're right, Halo in Halo that 

1458
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,080
that you, you said 3 for three 
are terrible. 

1459
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:22,960
And I said that's not 
necessarily the case. 

1460
01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:24,840
I was wrong. 
You were right. 

1461
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,680
Three for three just seemed to 
be just, I mean, I'm not saying 

1462
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:31,000
that the the, the team and the 
oh shit, it's the leadership 

1463
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:33,160
that's shit. 
I don't even want to get into 

1464
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,400
the weeds on Halo Studios 
because again, I've talked to 

1465
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,840
death about that for many years.
But the rest of their studios, 

1466
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:41,560
there's a lot of good studios. 
You got the freaking Coalition. 

1467
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:45,320
You got Playground games. 
You got freaking what's what's, 

1468
01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,360
you know, Bethesda can do so 
much better. 

1469
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,600
Like I really think they have 
some great studios. 

1470
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,120
I mean, and they do better. 
They have games like Doom that 

1471
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,320
always do really well. 
I mean, they, they've got, it's 

1472
01:20:57,320 --> 01:20:58,960
software, they got machine 
games, they've got all these 

1473
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,040
studios, they're really good 
even like. 

1474
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,120
Which I think Halo should go to 
its software. 

1475
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:06,040
That's just my opinion. 
I think they can do a fantastic 

1476
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:06,840
game with that. 
I agree. 

1477
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,600
A lot of people disagree, but no
but. 

1478
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,560
I agree with you generally on 
the point about the Xbox quality

1479
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,800
mark. 
I think they this year looks 

1480
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,520
remarkably strong. 
I think it will be a shame if 

1481
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,800
Xbox doesn't hit the penetrate 
that 19 mark with Fable. 

1482
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:23,040
I think that's important. 
I think Gears of War coming out 

1483
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:26,760
this year is insane. 
I think I don't know how that's 

1484
01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:28,840
the case. 
I still in disbelief that Gears 

1485
01:21:28,840 --> 01:21:32,640
of Gears of War and it's getting
a 30 minute deep dive and it's 

1486
01:21:32,640 --> 01:21:34,320
just gameplay. 
And you know, Matt Booty talks 

1487
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:37,920
about it as well. 
And going into it this week, we 

1488
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:43,240
also heard from from Jazz that a
thing that I have been talking 

1489
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:46,280
about for ages, that freaking 
thing needs to the Gears of War 

1490
01:21:46,480 --> 01:21:49,200
I talk about. 
Ever since Gears of War 1, as 

1491
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:52,360
soon as I played Gears of War 2,
the fatigue set in and I'm like,

1492
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,240
oh, they, they, it's the same 
like the same guns. 

1493
01:21:56,240 --> 01:22:00,000
They didn't have the impact. 
I was like, I immediately felt 

1494
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,080
like they could take it to 
another level and they just, 

1495
01:22:02,080 --> 01:22:04,480
they, it lost the weight and not
a lot of people say Gears of War

1496
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:06,320
two and three were their more 
favourite ones. 

1497
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,920
For me, Gears of War one was, 
but I and I, I, I'm not saying I

1498
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,240
hate Gears of War. 
I really enjoy Gears of War. 

1499
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:15,920
I feel like the, the potential 
for gears is very high, but I'm 

1500
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:21,040
not a gears guy as a result of 
gears not really evolving like 

1501
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:23,280
it should. 
But they've said all the right 

1502
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,320
things. 
And this this week, you know, 

1503
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,760
the I, I one of the things I 
said about, for instance, it's, 

1504
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,560
it's such a, it might seem like 
a minor point, but I was talking

1505
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,640
about how the chainsaw was one 
of the things I said. 

1506
01:22:34,640 --> 01:22:37,960
They slow things down and, you 
know, make the make, don't make 

1507
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,800
the chainsaw, just the, the 
little QT. 

1508
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:44,200
It's not a Sony game. 
And you know, Jess Gordon saying

1509
01:22:44,200 --> 01:22:46,120
that they, they've evolved the 
gameplay with a formula. 

1510
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:48,360
So like melee, Oh my God, fuck 
off. 

1511
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,720
Sorry, Adblock's coming up. 
You know, like Melee would be a 

1512
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,160
more of a thing, but more, you 
know, like Melee would be more 

1513
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:57,480
of a thing. 
More chainsome, but more dynamic

1514
01:22:57,480 --> 01:22:59,160
chainsome, not just scripted 
events. 

1515
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,920
So there's a chance of 
animation. 

1516
01:23:01,480 --> 01:23:04,720
It's badly quoted, but yeah, 
that kind of weight and stuff. 

1517
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:09,200
I'm I really want Gears to 
evolve and it looks like it's 

1518
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,440
going to evolve. 
And the kind of game that you 

1519
01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:16,880
want Xbox to to smash out. 
This is the gear where they 

1520
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,800
could fables one of those. 
Forza is going to be another 

1521
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:20,960
one. 
You can't just discard it 

1522
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:21,760
because. 
It's fable. 

1523
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,800
Forza Horizon is definitely 
going to do numbers, especially 

1524
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:29,080
because it's already been been 
announced for PlayStation. 

1525
01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:34,640
Oh man, if they sold a 5 year 
old game, I mean millions over 

1526
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:38,880
there, they're going to sell a 
brand new Forza Horizon very 

1527
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,400
well over there. 
So Shadow. 250 people smash the 

1528
01:23:41,400 --> 01:23:44,880
like button, smash it, smash it.
Where's the music that's fucking

1529
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:47,080
dead because fucking discord 
likes to mute it even though I'm

1530
01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:48,560
playing music? 
Anyway, and that's the other 

1531
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:51,240
part of the equation too. 
When we talk about possibility 

1532
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,120
of exclusives returning for 
Xbox, they're also looking at 

1533
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:56,920
that money too. 
They're like, well, Forts is 

1534
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:00,720
doing numbers over there. 
Do we really want to take that 

1535
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:05,080
away? 
And you know, and and again, 

1536
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,560
that's why I think it'll be a 
case by case basis. 

1537
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:13,680
And who knows, like with the way
E day looks, that might sell 

1538
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:15,920
really well over there. 
Just because Reloaded didn't 

1539
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:19,040
sell a freaking, you know, 20 
something year old game that 

1540
01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:22,800
just, you know, it was kind of 
revamped it. 

1541
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,840
That doesn't mean that E Day is 
not going to sell. 

1542
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:29,640
E Day looks incredible. 
One thing I love what they did 

1543
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,000
with E Day over, you know, 
you're talking about how the 

1544
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,880
guns and everything look 
improved or the slowing down of 

1545
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:38,280
the chainsaws and stuff. 
For me, it's just the overall 

1546
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:40,840
tone. 
It looks like they're going back

1547
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:44,400
to that horror element, and I 
know they've always had a bit of

1548
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:48,360
that even through 5, but it just
wasn't there like it was in the 

1549
01:24:48,360 --> 01:24:52,920
first one and I and I and and 
the locust seems scary as hell 

1550
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:57,240
in this one. 
Again, like it it, that sense of

1551
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:03,280
just that tenseness, that edge 
of your seatness of that trailer

1552
01:25:03,280 --> 01:25:06,680
that they showed just a couple 
of years ago that freaking blew 

1553
01:25:06,680 --> 01:25:09,040
me away, man. 
Being there in the audience and 

1554
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:11,760
seeing that and feeling the 
energy in the room. 

1555
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,800
People were so excited after 
that trailer because it. 

1556
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,240
Was incredible. 
It's rare to see an Xbox game 

1557
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:21,720
invoke that kind of emotion and 
it speaks to the value of the 

1558
01:25:21,720 --> 01:25:25,360
Gears as an IP and it's ability 
to do what you're talking about 

1559
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:27,240
really. 
I'm not really worried about E 

1560
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:28,520
day. 
I'm not worried about the 

1561
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:30,880
Coalition. 
I I mean, they're a great. 

1562
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:32,360
Studio. 
Yeah, they're they're a great 

1563
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,800
studio. 
I I have I'm I'm not worried but

1564
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:38,160
I want it to be what I 
specifically feel like against. 

1565
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:39,760
You wanted to smash it out? 
Yeah. 

1566
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,920
You wanted to freaking get that 
90 plus meta sell like crazy. 

1567
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,760
Do well or? 
You know if it is another. 

1568
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:49,000
None of that, actually. 
No, I don't give a shit about 

1569
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:52,320
how it sells or it's I, I do. 
Hear how well it does? 

1570
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:54,600
I do. 
No, I don't see these games 

1571
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,800
actually freaking numbers. 
What I mean is more primarily 

1572
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,120
when you're talking about what 
my main concern is, my main 

1573
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:06,480
concern is that look out if it 
hits 95 meta and sells really 

1574
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:11,400
well, but the game formula is 
very, very conservative to what 

1575
01:26:11,400 --> 01:26:13,880
I have. 
I'll be disappointed because I 

1576
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,920
feel like in terms of the, the 
game as an IP, the the ceiling 

1577
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,600
is really high. 
And I feel like like in terms of

1578
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,760
how you can evolve it, I have an
idea in my brain. 

1579
01:26:22,760 --> 01:26:24,280
Everything that they've said 
that they're going to do with 

1580
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,440
this game is basically what I've
been talking about for years. 

1581
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,440
And even Cliff Lesinski, he came
out and echoed those statements 

1582
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,920
and he said he got goosebumps 
thinking about, you know, how 

1583
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,320
that lone locus was making it so
difficult for Marcus to fight. 

1584
01:26:35,640 --> 01:26:38,680
He he cited that as an example 
and and I said, look, these are 

1585
01:26:38,680 --> 01:26:42,360
ugly, freaking crazy creatures 
that don't deserve to just be 

1586
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,040
relegated to being cannon 
fodder. 

1587
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:48,040
So slow it down, make us sick. 
I want, you know, I really 

1588
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:50,160
wanted to do that. 
And I feel like it. 

1589
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:52,240
I can't. 
Everything they say on paper is 

1590
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:54,960
fine, but I've been burnt. 
I've been in this space for a 

1591
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:57,600
long time that it might not 
manifest itself in that way. 

1592
01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,120
So that's what I primarily care 
about. 

1593
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,640
But of course I want the game to
do well. 

1594
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,040
And you know, the, the whole 
point that we're talking about 

1595
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,440
is about hitting it. 
Every game has to hit the 90 

1596
01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,680
plus matter and I've got that. 
So why how I wouldn't do AU turn

1597
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,400
on time for for no reason, but 
what I'm saying is in terms of 

1598
01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:17,760
my priorities, I want the game 
to be great and to evolve. 

1599
01:27:17,880 --> 01:27:19,480
I just want it to evolve, but 
I'm not. 

1600
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:23,680
But if it does do that font and 
you know you've got Forza 

1601
01:27:23,680 --> 01:27:26,480
Horizon smashes out it's in 
Japan, it's coming out next 

1602
01:27:26,480 --> 01:27:27,760
month. 
There's videos I've been 

1603
01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:32,080
watching right now of you know, 
people sharing how good it looks

1604
01:27:32,080 --> 01:27:36,280
and I was very critical of it. 
I was like, oh, I don't know if 

1605
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:38,600
this is going to be, you know, 
visual. 

1606
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,160
It didn't impress me in some 
bits. 

1607
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:43,760
But then I started, I watched 
it, the 4K, you know, footage of

1608
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:46,560
off the game, and I was like, oh
shit, you know what? 

1609
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:48,360
That's freaking the starting 
race. 

1610
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:50,680
It looks great. 
So Forza Horizon 6 smashes it. 

1611
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,320
Then you get Gears of War, 
whenever that's being released, 

1612
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:56,880
comes out and smashes it, and 
Fables also smashes it. 

1613
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:00,080
You've changed that perception, 
the very thing that you're 

1614
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,760
talked about. 
Now. 

1615
01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,480
You've turned on his head now 
Whether? 

1616
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:06,080
But are you? 
So what? 

1617
01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:07,200
What happens then? 
Phones. 

1618
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:10,880
What if Forza Horizon hits 90? 
What if Gears hits 90? 

1619
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:15,520
What if Fable hits 90? 
Will that be enough for you to 

1620
01:28:15,520 --> 01:28:17,960
change the perception or for Or 
do you think that will be enough

1621
01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,600
to change the perception? 
I think it's, I think I think it

1622
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,640
would definitely start for many 
people. 

1623
01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:25,360
I think they would start to see 
them a little bit differently. 

1624
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:28,880
Like they'd sit up a bit and be 
like, hey, and you know that 

1625
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:32,160
they've got this new Fable IP 
that's done really well too. 

1626
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:35,680
So you not only have the Gears 
and Forza, but you've got a 

1627
01:28:35,680 --> 01:28:38,320
newer IP. 
But I think they would, I think 

1628
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,240
they would definitely need more 
of new IP. 

1629
01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:46,440
And I think here's the thing, I 
think we will see that like I 

1630
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:52,400
think even this June, I, I think
we might see something new from 

1631
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,320
them that looks really big and 
good. 

1632
01:28:55,840 --> 01:28:58,680
I don't think it's just what we 
know is already coming. 

1633
01:28:58,680 --> 01:29:00,920
I'm sure there's some 
unannounced stuff that they'll 

1634
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:05,760
show that'll get people excited.
And that's the kind of stuff 

1635
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,120
that I'm really excited to see 
from them. 

1636
01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:12,240
I want to see what they have 
that's unannounced personally, 

1637
01:29:12,440 --> 01:29:13,760
because I already know what's 
coming. 

1638
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,120
I already know what I'm I'm 
going to like from them and what

1639
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:21,000
I'm hoping to like, because I 
really hope that Fable speaks to

1640
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:22,800
me here. 
I I really hope that that game 

1641
01:29:22,800 --> 01:29:26,440
is really good because I want to
play it and Gears E day. 

1642
01:29:26,440 --> 01:29:28,240
I'm not worried about it. 
I know I'm going to love it. 

1643
01:29:28,320 --> 01:29:29,600
I know I'm going to love the 
game. 

1644
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,760
Forza Horizon is not really my 
bag, but that's just me. 

1645
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:37,800
You know, I'm not a racing fan, 
but it looks great and it looks 

1646
01:29:37,800 --> 01:29:42,800
even better in this 4K stuff 
you're showing here than it did 

1647
01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:47,280
when we first saw it. 
No no bro you you need to watch 

1648
01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,600
these in. 30 frames or is that 
in 60 by the way? 

1649
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:54,000
Because I I-60 a lot of people. 
OK, good, good. 

1650
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:56,000
Because a lot of people were 
showing it. 

1651
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:00,640
I guess the footage they got to 
show was all 30 like a month ago

1652
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:02,800
or a few weeks ago, yeah. 
Yeah. 

1653
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:05,640
No, it's definitely it. 
It was like Series X best foot 

1654
01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,520
forward, you know, high quality 
graphics, 30 frames. 

1655
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,680
You know. 
So you haven't even seen the the

1656
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:15,280
gameplay from the PC side? 
That's the that's the crazy 

1657
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:16,360
part. 
I've been playing this with 

1658
01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:18,720
maxed out with ray tracing on. 
It's going to be. 

1659
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,000
Fucking. 
Sane. 

1660
01:30:20,440 --> 01:30:22,960
I mean. 
I've got it right now and it 

1661
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,680
looks beautiful look. 
I wanted a generational update 

1662
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,040
on it, but then the the last 
game looks so beautiful. 

1663
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:32,120
It's just like oh look, it looks
great anyway with the ray 

1664
01:30:32,120 --> 01:30:35,600
tracing or the stuff on and some
of the environments are insane. 

1665
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:39,280
This game just looks beautiful 
and Japan. 

1666
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:45,680
I can't see it not being 
successful, but you know, I've 

1667
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,160
talked about what Forza Horizon 
and Japan needs to do and it 

1668
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,960
can't just slap out. 
And I think, I suspect it will 

1669
01:30:50,960 --> 01:30:53,840
be this anyway, the slap a load 
of icons everywhere because 

1670
01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,800
that's what Forza Horizon is. 
It's almost like a Ubisoft 

1671
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:58,880
formula of of racing games. 
But it's so much fun to play 

1672
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:02,360
that, you know, it's one of 
those games that I, I kick 

1673
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,960
myself on not 100% completing 
any of them. 

1674
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,480
I get close to them and I just 
don't do it. 

1675
01:31:07,480 --> 01:31:10,520
But this one, well, I didn't 
play that much of the last game,

1676
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:13,440
but this one, the setting is 
just so much more intriguing to 

1677
01:31:13,440 --> 01:31:14,320
me. 
Really good. 

1678
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,760
Yeah, it is really good. 
Even on your stream through the 

1679
01:31:16,760 --> 01:31:18,040
compression it looks really 
good. 

1680
01:31:18,040 --> 01:31:20,680
Yeah, but wait till you see some
of the other freaking levels in 

1681
01:31:20,680 --> 01:31:22,360
there. 
It's just the the Biome changes,

1682
01:31:22,360 --> 01:31:25,160
then you've got snow, then 
you've got some aerial bits with

1683
01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:26,080
the cloud. 
It just. 

1684
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:27,720
Looks. 
It just looks. 

1685
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:30,960
You'll see it here. 
The game, like Playground games,

1686
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:32,920
are so talented. 
They've got two big titles 

1687
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:36,000
coming out in the one year and 
they're completely different. 

1688
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:41,400
One's a racer, 1's a freaking 
RPG that is a classic title 

1689
01:31:41,400 --> 01:31:43,800
that's taken over someone elses 
IP on and looks. 

1690
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,320
So what I've mentioned earlier 
about when we were talking about

1691
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:49,720
just Xbox when, when it comes to
like, say Elder Scrolls 6 and 

1692
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:53,040
how some people are kind of 
having that conversation now 

1693
01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:57,240
about like, you know, these 
games coming from Korea, China, 

1694
01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:01,200
just really taking over a lot of
these genres and just making 

1695
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,600
the, you know, 'cause it's not 
just about Xbox, it's 

1696
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,360
PlayStation two. 
I mean, you've got games that 

1697
01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,880
are coming out that, you know, 
rival a lot of what they do. 

1698
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:15,000
And so, so I mean, you got 
Phantom Blade coming out. 

1699
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,760
It's another Chinese game. 
I can't wait for that game. 

1700
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:22,080
And that game comes out just six
days before Wolverine. 

1701
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,880
So I mean, it's not just Xbox 
that has to deal with this 

1702
01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,520
stuff. 
It you've got another, a whole 

1703
01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:31,800
bunch of players in the game 
coming from overseas that are, 

1704
01:32:31,800 --> 01:32:35,440
that are doing their thing and 
these Western developers just 

1705
01:32:35,440 --> 01:32:38,960
need to do better. 
It's not just Xbox, it's 

1706
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:41,440
PlayStation. 
It's it's a lot of these 

1707
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,680
different Western developers. 
It's not. 

1708
01:32:43,960 --> 01:32:46,200
It's all publishers. 
And I love that competition 

1709
01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:48,480
between the East and the West. 
I think it's it's tied to tie. 

1710
01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,760
I know we have this long 
conversation about, you know, 

1711
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,640
game by game design by committee
in the in the West. 

1712
01:32:53,640 --> 01:32:56,400
And you know, all the game 
design has been dictated by by 

1713
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,600
bollocks. 
Whereas whereas with the East or

1714
01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,080
Far East Asia, they don't give a
shit about that and they just 

1715
01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:04,520
focus on the craft and that that
has enabled them to really 

1716
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,720
bridge the gap and really exceed
in many ways. 

1717
01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:08,880
You're starting to see regions 
that we've never seen before, 

1718
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:12,040
like South Korea and China. 
That's a relatively recent 

1719
01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:14,320
phenomenon where these guys are 
coming out there and producing 

1720
01:33:14,320 --> 01:33:17,920
some dankness. 
So it's great. 

1721
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,400
And when you take and. 
It's awesome, yeah. 

1722
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:23,440
And this is amazing. 
This is the kind of stuff that I

1723
01:33:23,440 --> 01:33:26,400
want to see all of these 
publishers push even more the 

1724
01:33:26,400 --> 01:33:30,120
their developers. 
I want to see these development 

1725
01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:34,760
studios just do even more 
because it's coming, it's coming

1726
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:38,560
from overseas now. 
They're doing the most and, and 

1727
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,560
I want to see the, the everybody
push each other. 

1728
01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:43,760
That's what competition is all 
about. 

1729
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:48,400
And yeah, like, dude it. 
I want to see what's best for 

1730
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:52,560
all of these studios. 
I I'm not talking crap, just 

1731
01:33:52,560 --> 01:33:54,480
about, you know, Xbox or 
whatever. 

1732
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:58,760
I want to see the best out of 
all these studios from all these

1733
01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,520
companies. 
I just that that's it at the end

1734
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,480
of the day, I'm the gamer, I'm 
the consumer. 

1735
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,560
I want more great games. 
Damn it. 

1736
01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:06,800
That's it. 
That's. 

1737
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:09,600
All it's about for us. 
You know, absolutely I don't. 

1738
01:34:09,600 --> 01:34:13,200
Care who it's from. 
It could have a big Xbox Studios

1739
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:15,440
label on it, it could have 
PlayStation Studios. 

1740
01:34:15,640 --> 01:34:18,640
It could have I don't Valve I I 
don't care. 

1741
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,800
Like just give me a great game. 
That's all I want. 

1742
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:24,040
Absolutely. 
And it's the environment that 

1743
01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,320
fosters that kind of stuff, 
competition that fosters that 

1744
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:28,640
stuff. 
And it goes back to why we want 

1745
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:31,480
platform like exclusives, 
because it galvanises parties to

1746
01:34:31,480 --> 01:34:34,200
start really going out there. 
Because if PlayStation has no 

1747
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:37,600
real incentive to build games 
that are not really available in

1748
01:34:37,600 --> 01:34:40,760
its ecosystem, like Western RPGs
or first person shooters like 

1749
01:34:40,760 --> 01:34:44,120
Doom and stuff, it can sit back 
and rely on Call of Duty and 

1750
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:46,160
Doom and all these games coming 
out of there anyway. 

1751
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,000
Because PlayStation is the brand
name. 

1752
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,200
It's like Kellogg's is there. 
It's the brand name in the 

1753
01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:52,680
console space. 
If Xbox was to change that, that

1754
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,080
would fundamentally re energise 
the industry. 

1755
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:57,760
We're like, all right, this 
trillion, remember, there's 

1756
01:34:57,760 --> 01:35:00,120
still a trillion dollar company.
I care, yeah, it's a business, 

1757
01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:02,960
blah, blah, blah. 
But if they they've got all the 

1758
01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:06,440
everything that we've been 
talking about, everything that 

1759
01:35:06,440 --> 01:35:09,720
Xbox fans have been dying to see
Xbox do, which is invest in 

1760
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:13,280
their bit, their studios, build 
all of that up and finally have 

1761
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:15,800
that stuff is fine. 
And this year represents it. 

1762
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:19,240
And there's such a shame that 
they capitulated at the peak 

1763
01:35:19,240 --> 01:35:21,480
moment. 
That's the biggest irony behind 

1764
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:24,680
all of this, that they 
capitulated when everything was 

1765
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:27,360
set up for them. 
And that's why they should be, 

1766
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,720
in my opinion, from hardcore 
fans that instead of running out

1767
01:35:30,720 --> 01:35:34,280
there doing this shuffle to sock
off the execs at the JW, Mario, 

1768
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:38,000
wherever you guys meet up, you 
need to fucking make sure that 

1769
01:35:38,000 --> 01:35:40,760
you hold them to account. 
That, you know, really, if you 

1770
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:43,880
guys were, you know, I, you 
know, evangelising the brand and

1771
01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:47,440
are demanding this and that it's
actually egregious that Xbox 

1772
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:52,280
used you during the ABK stuff 
and then completely left you to 

1773
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:54,320
dry as they catered for a 
PlayStation. 

1774
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:57,800
And not only that, coincided 
with their big updates for those

1775
01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:00,000
games when their PlayStation 
games released. 

1776
01:36:00,360 --> 01:36:04,160
Well, guys, they were doing this
because they were setting up 

1777
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:08,160
themselves to be everywhere. 
They were setting themselves up 

1778
01:36:08,440 --> 01:36:12,520
to kill the console eventually. 
That's where the play was going 

1779
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:14,600
with them. 
They were setting every up 

1780
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:19,320
everyone up for PC style gaming 
and then hey, you know what, no 

1781
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,680
more console for us. 
The next generation. 

1782
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,640
You guys can move to PC or buy 
our games on PlayStation or 

1783
01:36:25,640 --> 01:36:28,320
switch to what Switch 3, 
whatever it maybe. 

1784
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:32,280
But that's where that I really 
feel they were going. 

1785
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:35,880
And now with Asha in there, I 
can't tell you that that's going

1786
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:40,600
to be the the case because Asha 
is kind of, you know, looking at

1787
01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:43,320
everything now. 
And, and when she came out and 

1788
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:47,440
said that she's trying to push 
the console first, that isn't 

1789
01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,560
like in order to push the 
console directly, showing that, 

1790
01:36:51,880 --> 01:36:54,160
you know, she's doing something 
different from she's. 

1791
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:57,320
Saying the right things, but 
phones I just I I I you. 

1792
01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:00,320
Know it's, it's how they put how
it plays out. 

1793
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:04,400
We have to see what she does to 
actually make this work. 

1794
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,000
Can she do it? 
I don't know. 

1795
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:09,600
It's a tall task, but it is a 
tall task. 

1796
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:11,240
But it was. 
Actually shocking. 

1797
01:37:11,440 --> 01:37:14,840
It's obvious to me they needed, 
they needed new leadership. 

1798
01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:17,840
Obvious. 
Now I I completely obvious. 

1799
01:37:17,840 --> 01:37:21,040
I think it's it's, it's, it's 
actually incredible really how 

1800
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,920
people start to realise what's 
what's going on. 

1801
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:26,280
You know, Phil Spencer did 
great, Like he saved Xbox. 

1802
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:28,720
He will always give that credit 
that that's a huge thing. 

1803
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:31,600
You don't get to just like, like
gloss over that. 

1804
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:34,200
That's big. 
But ultimately, clearly, his 

1805
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:38,560
energy waned. 
And it's, it is what it is like 

1806
01:37:38,560 --> 01:37:40,280
the energy, Wayne, he got 
physically older. 

1807
01:37:40,280 --> 01:37:43,160
He had to do this big battle. 
That's a $70 billion deal that 

1808
01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:45,840
he had to withstand and all that
pressure and scrutiny that came 

1809
01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:47,440
with it. 
And now Asha Sharma, he was 

1810
01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:48,720
like, so relieved. 
Just take you on. 

1811
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:49,680
I don't want to fucking deal 
with. 

1812
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:51,760
I want to play some games. 
And that's fair enough. 

1813
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:55,600
But at the same time, you know, 
it's funny because Satya Nadella

1814
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:59,560
espouses how he actually, he's, 
he's enthused about how he 

1815
01:37:59,560 --> 01:38:03,360
actually regrets Xbox were very 
quick to abandon the Zune and 

1816
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,280
the music space and abandoned 
the Windows Phone. 

1817
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:10,920
And you know, all of that, Like 
if you recognise Xbox's swift 

1818
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:13,320
exit in that space, you should 
have, there should be an element

1819
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:17,320
of you having that pride in your
company, in your brand, in the 

1820
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:20,600
gaming brand, because it's still
in a unique, strong position 

1821
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:23,520
where so many people have so 
much passion for it. 

1822
01:38:23,640 --> 01:38:26,800
Microsoft is a fucking faceless 
corporation, a trillion dollar 

1823
01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:30,920
company that no one gives about 
in terms of its actual identity 

1824
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,520
as a brand. 
It's fucking useless and I'm 

1825
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:37,520
sorry, even in the space that 
it's good, it has everything, it

1826
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,960
controls everything. 
There's we are all on Windows, 

1827
01:38:39,960 --> 01:38:42,440
we are all on Outlook, we're all
in the office suite. 

1828
01:38:42,440 --> 01:38:45,160
We're that's what it is. 
It has a monopoly on this space 

1829
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:48,720
but and has no brand identity. 
But the Xbox thing where Asha 

1830
01:38:48,720 --> 01:38:52,280
Sharma says I wanted to have the
renegade spirit, saying those 

1831
01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:56,120
words specifically will set off 
the Xbox guys who know about the

1832
01:38:56,120 --> 01:38:58,960
history of this brand because 
that renegade spirit gave birth 

1833
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,760
to this little island within 
Microsoft, Microsoft, this big 

1834
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,520
faceless Corp. 
But within it was this Xbox. 

1835
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:09,120
Xbox has its own identity. 
It had this and and they carved 

1836
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:12,160
it out. 
So it wasn't just supporting an 

1837
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,480
offshoot of a trillion dollar 
company. 

1838
01:39:14,480 --> 01:39:17,120
That's Microsoft. 
It was it was its own thing. 

1839
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:20,840
And people want that to be 
coming back because it benefits 

1840
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,560
gaming as a whole, because we 
need to bring that back. 

1841
01:39:23,560 --> 01:39:28,440
So of Azure as the XAI bod, and 
this is where my mind's like, 

1842
01:39:28,440 --> 01:39:31,800
OK, XAI bot comes in, doesn't 
really know anything about 

1843
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:35,040
gaming and she's going to bring 
the changes and she's saying the

1844
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:36,360
right things. 
Well, how is she going to 

1845
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:38,000
execute it? 
She's going to bring. 

1846
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:42,520
Back Any conversation from an 
Xbox exec with Satya Nadella 

1847
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:46,200
about bringing back exclusives 
is going to be a very difficult 

1848
01:39:46,200 --> 01:39:48,520
one. 
When I heard the numbers, people

1849
01:39:48,520 --> 01:39:50,440
in there. 
I have to add something though. 

1850
01:39:50,880 --> 01:39:53,800
I personally don't think timed 
exclusives work. 

1851
01:39:54,760 --> 01:39:57,200
I I think that if they do 
exclusives, it's got to be 

1852
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,360
complete exclusive. 
Yeah. 

1853
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:03,040
Complete exclusivity because, 
well, it's a halfway house. 

1854
01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:08,160
I really do believe that if if 
you have a platform in this 

1855
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,800
gaming space, I don't think you 
survive without exclusives 

1856
01:40:12,200 --> 01:40:15,200
because every platform out there
has exclusives. 

1857
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:19,200
People have this notion that 
like, oh, PC gaming doesn't have

1858
01:40:19,200 --> 01:40:22,320
a yes they do. 
Epic has Fortnite, one of the 

1859
01:40:22,320 --> 01:40:27,160
biggest money making freaking 
games ever makes 5 billion a 

1860
01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:30,480
year. 
OK if they didn't have that they

1861
01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:35,880
would not have that platform but
they keep that exclusive because

1862
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:39,040
then that's a money maker for 
them that's massive. 

1863
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:42,800
Like now of course again it goes
out to other consoles and stuff,

1864
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,800
I'm not saying that, but on PC 
itself they would not be able to

1865
01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:50,960
compete with Steam if it wasn't 
for their exclusives in the 

1866
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:52,880
they. 
Don't even survive steam, 

1867
01:40:53,000 --> 01:40:56,440
they're just about hovering 
around to a survival because of 

1868
01:40:56,440 --> 01:40:57,600
Fortnite. 
Without they wouldn't even 

1869
01:40:57,600 --> 01:40:59,520
exist. 
Exactly, exactly. 

1870
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,760
And I believe that I think every
platform within the gaming space

1871
01:41:02,760 --> 01:41:05,120
needs their exclusives. 
Absolutely they do. 

1872
01:41:05,920 --> 01:41:09,800
You know, like IA lot of people 
keep saying that this is just 

1873
01:41:09,800 --> 01:41:12,240
console war fodder and then you 
just want the brands to fight 

1874
01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:15,280
and you and it's it's I'm sorry,
but it's just not not the right 

1875
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:16,280
mindset. 
It's. 

1876
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,880
Not about fight, yeah, people 
always do that. 

1877
01:41:18,880 --> 01:41:20,520
Or you just want a console war 
you. 

1878
01:41:20,840 --> 01:41:22,520
Don't give a. 
Shit about console war. 

1879
01:41:22,840 --> 01:41:28,200
I care about competition because
competition breeds innovation. 

1880
01:41:28,440 --> 01:41:30,240
That's it. 
Absolutely. 

1881
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:34,080
I I mean, you know, it does it 
you if say for instance, Xbox 

1882
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:37,480
became exclusive and their games
didn't come out on play 

1883
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:40,160
PlayStation and you have one of 
the strongest years in gaming. 

1884
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,560
I know it's not happening. 
They already announced the 

1885
01:41:41,560 --> 01:41:46,120
PlayStation versions, but Gears 
of War, Fable and Forza all just

1886
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,160
available on PC and just Xbox 
consoles and you got next 

1887
01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:52,280
console coming out. 
People will take notice and. 

1888
01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:54,840
And think about this guys. 
Think about this. 

1889
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,480
You know how PlayStation folks 
always say, and they're right 

1890
01:41:58,480 --> 01:42:02,240
about this by the way, they only
concentrate on the 1 console. 

1891
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:08,240
So their games perform very well
on that one platform, Xbox, they

1892
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:13,160
do PC and freaking console. 
Now with this Helix, they're 

1893
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:15,280
basically going to be doing PC 
games. 

1894
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:19,080
That's it. 
Why, why spend the R&D to or 

1895
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:22,240
the, the port, you know, for the
port process to go over to 

1896
01:42:22,240 --> 01:42:24,680
PlayStation, Take that equation 
out. 

1897
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,600
You don't have to deal with that
nonsense because look, they've 

1898
01:42:27,600 --> 01:42:30,920
already had some issues with 
games crashing and everything 

1899
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,400
over there like it was Starfield
lately. 

1900
01:42:33,680 --> 01:42:36,080
It's because it's they have to 
deal with another porting 

1901
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:38,880
process, different platform. 
If they just concentrate on 

1902
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:43,120
their own, you have a much more 
refined product and I think 

1903
01:42:43,120 --> 01:42:44,640
that's better for them in the 
long run. 

1904
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:48,240
I don't know. 
I've said this all the time. 

1905
01:42:48,240 --> 01:42:52,920
I've just said that, you know, 
ultimately PlayStation Double 

1906
01:42:53,480 --> 01:42:56,160
with PlayStation not making PC 
games for their single player, 

1907
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:57,840
catering for PC for their single
player games. 

1908
01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,640
So what do you think was going 
to happen to the quality of the 

1909
01:42:59,640 --> 01:43:01,480
PlayStation games? 
Are they going to get worse? 

1910
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:04,400
Are they going to get better? 
They don't have to focus on a 

1911
01:43:04,400 --> 01:43:06,760
multitude of different 
configurations for PC. 

1912
01:43:06,880 --> 01:43:09,160
They only, they have one set of 
wires, they have multiple skews,

1913
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:12,800
PS5PS5 Pro, but that's it. 
Obviously they're going to have 

1914
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:16,440
more time to optimise for the 
PlayStation and yeah, I get it, 

1915
01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:19,920
you know, PC, you know, 
whatever, but you know for a 

1916
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:24,720
fact that just by just common 
sense dictates that by by them 

1917
01:43:24,720 --> 01:43:28,280
not having to cater for a myriad
of different configurations, 

1918
01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:30,920
they're going to just be 
streamlining their single player

1919
01:43:30,920 --> 01:43:33,120
games to match their quality. 
And that's why it's support 

1920
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,280
PlayStation in in what they're 
doing, because they're taking 

1921
01:43:36,280 --> 01:43:38,240
care of one their console user 
base first. 

1922
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:41,040
And that's why I bought a pro 
and I know Cyrus is going to run

1923
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,760
really well and I know that 
Playstation's general quality 

1924
01:43:43,760 --> 01:43:46,960
control has been great. 
So they don't have to worry 

1925
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,240
about PC. 
And when Xbox does the same 

1926
01:43:49,240 --> 01:43:51,920
thing like you're saying, they 
don't have to factor in. 

1927
01:43:52,280 --> 01:43:55,480
You know, the reason why Forza 
Horizon 6 isn't even out on 

1928
01:43:55,480 --> 01:43:57,880
PlayStation day one is because 
they don't have the resources 

1929
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,480
just yet to to, to port that 
over. 

1930
01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:03,800
So that itself should tell you 
this stuff takes time and money 

1931
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:06,720
costs time and money. 
Now take away the time and money

1932
01:44:06,720 --> 01:44:11,040
and focus on just your your OK 
already your mug. 

1933
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,480
It's slightly different in that 
Xbox has to cater for PC and you

1934
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:17,600
when you start cater for a 
multitude of different 

1935
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,600
configurations. 
It'll be a lot more easier to 

1936
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,040
port for PlayStation I imagine 
just. 

1937
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:25,400
Well, let me ask you this 
though. 

1938
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:28,600
Like this is what I tell people 
a lot when they talk about how 

1939
01:44:28,600 --> 01:44:31,920
like, Oh no, it doesn't matter 
if they don't have exclusives, 

1940
01:44:32,080 --> 01:44:33,800
it won't do anything different 
for them. 

1941
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:35,760
And I asked him one simple 
question. 

1942
01:44:36,080 --> 01:44:43,160
Let's say guys, name me an Xbox 
game that you love or franchise 

1943
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,760
that you love. 
OK, Fable. 

1944
01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:51,560
OK, so Fable OK, Fable is 
exclusive to the Helix. 

1945
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:53,800
Yeah. 
Are you going to buy a Helix 

1946
01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:58,800
because you love that franchise?
Bro I bought most people is a 

1947
01:44:58,800 --> 01:45:02,520
resounding yes like. 
I bought I bought APS 5 Pro. 

1948
01:45:02,720 --> 01:45:05,360
Do you know why I bought it? 
Because of Soros, which is a 

1949
01:45:05,440 --> 01:45:07,520
very neat game. 
I want to buy some. 

1950
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,120
Bro. 
And they won't do this. 

1951
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,760
They're not going to take games 
off of PC. 

1952
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,080
OK, I know that. 
So that's not happening. 

1953
01:45:15,080 --> 01:45:19,640
But let's say they did and they 
said, hey, you can't play Gears 

1954
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:23,160
E day unless you have a Helix. 
Guess what I'm fucking doing? 

1955
01:45:23,680 --> 01:45:25,720
Buying a Helix. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

1956
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:29,600
I'm buying a fucking Helix like 
a lot of gamers would do the 

1957
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:33,520
same if they if they really want
to play a fucking game, they'll 

1958
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:36,440
buy the console, yes. 
And I and I get the people who 

1959
01:45:36,440 --> 01:45:38,200
are like, Oh yeah, it's good for
you to say, you know, everyone 

1960
01:45:38,200 --> 01:45:40,000
can afford it, blah, blah, blah,
blah. 

1961
01:45:40,960 --> 01:45:42,800
Look, let's be let's be real 
about that. 

1962
01:45:43,480 --> 01:45:47,120
Look, it may take me time to buy
because I'm not rich like that, 

1963
01:45:47,120 --> 01:45:51,000
but I'm just saying like you can
stack away some cash here and 

1964
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:52,720
there to buy a console if you 
want. 

1965
01:45:52,920 --> 01:45:56,440
I'm I'm just saying this, the 
the fact that you can buy a 

1966
01:45:56,440 --> 01:45:59,360
console at all if you love a 
franchise, if you love a game or

1967
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,560
if you just want to play 
something that looks really cool

1968
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:04,240
to you and you need to play it. 
You're going to buy that 

1969
01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:06,480
console. 
You're you're you're not going 

1970
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:08,720
to sit there and go, Oh, no, I 
would never. 

1971
01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:12,200
I'll just I'll just wait, you 
know, and maybe play it one day 

1972
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,920
when it does go on something 
else years down the line. 

1973
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,160
They're not doing that. 
Most people aren't doing that. 

1974
01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:22,520
I I think you're talking about 
creative space and people wanted

1975
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:25,920
to talk about gaming as an art 
form, and I don't want the art 

1976
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:29,800
form to be compromised as a 
result of decisions that 

1977
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:32,080
ultimately just take away from 
it. 

1978
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,240
I know for a fact that 
competition is one of the four 

1979
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:39,760
foremost things that will make 
sure that people get get their 

1980
01:46:39,760 --> 01:46:41,920
act together. 
And I take on the point of board

1981
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:43,760
people like, well, everything is
competing with everything 

1982
01:46:43,760 --> 01:46:44,960
anyway. 
I'm like, that's fine. 

1983
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:49,040
But when you have platform 
holders really, really in this 

1984
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,320
very competitive space now 
galvanised to compete on A1, on 

1985
01:46:52,320 --> 01:46:55,160
one level we've seen it, man. 
Freaking Forza. 

1986
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:59,000
Forza wouldn't even be exist 
dude. 

1987
01:46:59,040 --> 01:47:01,240
Somebody tried that logic with 
me though. 

1988
01:47:01,240 --> 01:47:05,080
By the way, Gas, somebody just 
was arguing with me the other 

1989
01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,320
day in my comment section and 
they said fonts. 

1990
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:10,320
Well, if you're really into 
exclusivity, what if you were 

1991
01:47:10,320 --> 01:47:14,280
told that GTA 6 was exclusive to
the Switch too? 

1992
01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,240
You know what I told them? 
As shitty as that is, I guess 

1993
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:19,800
I'm buying a Switch too, yeah? 
Yeah. 

1994
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:21,640
Absolutely, because. 
That's how much I want to play 

1995
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:24,240
the fucking game. 
That's just the type of gamer I 

1996
01:47:24,240 --> 01:47:27,400
am. 
Like I'm going to buy whatever I

1997
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:30,240
have to to play whatever I want 
to play. 

1998
01:47:30,880 --> 01:47:33,320
Of course, if I could afford it 
at that time or whatever, But 

1999
01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:36,920
I'm just saying like I'm going 
to go out and try to get 

2000
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,640
whatever it is I want to get my 
hands on to play. 

2001
01:47:40,400 --> 01:47:43,560
I'm not going to let anybody 
stop me or tell me you shouldn't

2002
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,000
play on that console. 
You shouldn't play like or any 

2003
01:47:46,000 --> 01:47:49,080
of this fanboy console war 
nonsense. 

2004
01:47:49,080 --> 01:47:53,400
Like it doesn't bother me. 
I'm I'm truly about the games 

2005
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:56,760
like, and I think a lot of 
people out there are, I think 

2006
01:47:56,760 --> 01:48:00,440
despite your loyalty to a 
certain brand, if you really 

2007
01:48:00,440 --> 01:48:03,240
wanted to play a game over on 
PlayStation, you'd buy a 

2008
01:48:03,240 --> 01:48:06,160
PlayStation if it was stuck 
there, Yeah. 

2009
01:48:06,400 --> 01:48:09,800
You would. 
A lot of people would look, 

2010
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:14,280
we've, we've lived through the 
environment when it was the 360 

2011
01:48:14,280 --> 01:48:17,400
Gen, we we saw where, you know, 
when they were competing. 

2012
01:48:17,960 --> 01:48:21,440
The whole PlayStation First 
party thing really came to 

2013
01:48:21,440 --> 01:48:23,880
fruition as a result of the 
competition that Xbox 360 

2014
01:48:23,880 --> 01:48:25,720
presents to them. 
They didn't even have that first

2015
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:27,840
party stable. 
And look how positively it 

2016
01:48:27,840 --> 01:48:31,080
impacted PlayStation, its 
perception of it as a brand and 

2017
01:48:31,080 --> 01:48:33,920
what games it generated as a 
result. 

2018
01:48:34,480 --> 01:48:36,920
And that's why look, Nintendo 
and PlayStation are doing it. 

2019
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:40,880
So why does the third plot 3rd 
place player that has repeatedly

2020
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,680
lost the last two successive 
generations with the head of the

2021
01:48:43,720 --> 01:48:46,720
Xbox actually admitting that we 
lost the worst generation as a 

2022
01:48:46,720 --> 01:48:48,520
result, blah blah blah. 
He's just literally come out and

2023
01:48:48,520 --> 01:48:52,440
said it, he's lost it. 
Why should we then take the, you

2024
01:48:52,440 --> 01:48:58,640
know, the convenient reframing 
of of the loser as the gospel 

2025
01:48:58,640 --> 01:49:01,760
and I don't this is where you 
know, that's where the truth is.

2026
01:49:02,280 --> 01:49:05,920
And now Xbox guys are now it's 
so quick to with gave them a 

2027
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,600
little bit of hope and Ash has 
given them hope and that's what 

2028
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:11,200
it is hope in this map. 
I think that's the title of my 

2029
01:49:11,200 --> 01:49:12,160
video. 
Hope. 

2030
01:49:13,120 --> 01:49:18,400
They're so happy about it. 
Now Xbox gamers who really cared

2031
01:49:18,400 --> 01:49:23,120
about the the the brand, in my 
opinion, should be very loud and

2032
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,280
vocal about the importance of 
exclusive team. 

2033
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:32,040
Make it known, even though it's 
very look, it's it's not, it's 

2034
01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:34,640
not how the realm of 
possibility, but it's because 

2035
01:49:34,640 --> 01:49:39,680
Xbox guys have and the the you 
know, in the small whatever 

2036
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:42,440
social media they've they, they 
they say they're negligible, 

2037
01:49:42,440 --> 01:49:43,360
blah, blah, blah. 
No, it's not. 

2038
01:49:43,360 --> 01:49:46,240
But because I believe it really 
does cascade down to everyone, 

2039
01:49:46,240 --> 01:49:49,360
the sentiments of core gamers. 
But if it wasn't for so many 

2040
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:53,840
people just sucking off whatever
Xbox did, I think we would have 

2041
01:49:53,840 --> 01:49:56,000
seen a change. 
But ultimately it is. 

2042
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:58,560
But it it it look, we're going 
to have this conversation for a 

2043
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:00,960
while. 
It is the thing that is holding 

2044
01:50:00,960 --> 01:50:02,000
back. 
You know what I think? 

2045
01:50:02,720 --> 01:50:04,080
You know what I think happened 
though? 

2046
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:09,040
I, I think what happened is at 
one time, and even though I 

2047
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,960
think it started to stagnate, I 
think Game Pass was kind of 

2048
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:15,800
hitting certain numbers where 
they were really happy and 

2049
01:50:15,800 --> 01:50:18,600
content with. 
And then when they threw in that

2050
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:23,240
$30 price tag, I think a lot of 
people left the the ultimate 

2051
01:50:23,240 --> 01:50:26,320
service. 
I think a lot of people left 

2052
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:28,640
millions. 
Yeah, millions. 

2053
01:50:28,680 --> 01:50:31,200
I would say millions have left. 
Yes. 

2054
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:35,080
And, and so I think, I think 
that's what kind of steered him 

2055
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,080
the other way or or caused Asha 
to come in here and look at 

2056
01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:41,920
things differently and go, hey, 
maybe the price structure isn't 

2057
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,320
right, but. 
No, no, it's not. 

2058
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:46,360
Maybe it's a definitely when she
came out and said that it's it's

2059
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,880
too expensive. 
It means millions left. 

2060
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:52,800
I'm I'm telling you. 
But the same point, but at the 

2061
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:57,200
same time, the reason why they 
did that was because of the last

2062
01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:00,320
two cards and and the fact that 
they lost almost a billion 

2063
01:51:00,320 --> 01:51:03,280
dollars with those two on sales.
They left it on the table. 

2064
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:07,120
We were talking about this. 
Before you joined the show and 

2065
01:51:07,120 --> 01:51:07,720
I. 
So. 

2066
01:51:07,960 --> 01:51:09,240
Should they leave? 
Should they I? 

2067
01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,000
I think it's a no brainer but 
they should get rid of cod in 

2068
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:12,760
the. 
In the well. 

2069
01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:16,280
In the service. 
No, well, I, I, I, I before any 

2070
01:51:16,280 --> 01:51:18,520
of this conversation stuff 
happened. 

2071
01:51:19,240 --> 01:51:23,240
I, I've had Tim Dog on my show 
months ago and he was talking 

2072
01:51:23,240 --> 01:51:29,400
about this stuff and how he's 
heard that like Activision was 

2073
01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:32,320
even told that the next cog 
probably wouldn't be in Game 

2074
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:35,000
Pass. 
And I was talking about this out

2075
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:36,560
in the open on my show. 
For a while. 

2076
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:42,200
Now I look, I'm not so sure that
that's exactly going to happen 

2077
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,840
that way. 
I think they might restructure 

2078
01:51:44,840 --> 01:51:49,160
some things and do different 
tiers, but I think that most of 

2079
01:51:49,160 --> 01:51:53,040
your day ones outside of COD 
should definitely still be there

2080
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:57,160
at a cheaper price. 
If they do remove COD, for sure 

2081
01:51:57,160 --> 01:51:59,600
it should be cheaper. 
And I know you had Jazz on last 

2082
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,000
week. 
He agreed with me too. 

2083
01:52:01,000 --> 01:52:04,240
He was saying the same thing. 
It was because of COD. 

2084
01:52:04,600 --> 01:52:06,680
And if they do remove it, it 
should be cheaper. 

2085
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:10,000
And here's the funny part Gaz, 
you know that some of the guys 

2086
01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:14,840
in the community that defend 
Xbox to no end, these same 

2087
01:52:14,840 --> 01:52:18,800
people are still defending 
saying no, why should they 

2088
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:21,320
decrease the price? 
It's fine at 30 even if they 

2089
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:24,520
remove COD. 
I don't care about you guys are 

2090
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:28,480
just too much like they're 
already starting that just in 

2091
01:52:28,480 --> 01:52:32,000
case they don't decrease the 
price, they could be like, I'm 

2092
01:52:32,000 --> 01:52:33,880
happy with it. 
I don't have a problem with it. 

2093
01:52:33,880 --> 01:52:37,120
Like dude, they upped the price 
because of COD. 

2094
01:52:38,280 --> 01:52:40,440
Like what? 
What are you talking about here?

2095
01:52:40,720 --> 01:52:44,200
They remove it, Yes, it should 
adjust accordingly. 

2096
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:47,280
I don't know what they're, you 
know, dude, I don't know what 

2097
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,240
these people are smoking, but 
it's it's not right. 

2098
01:52:50,440 --> 01:52:55,000
Take the take a, they'll take an
egg on the face for cod, you 

2099
01:52:55,040 --> 01:52:57,960
know, coming off the service, 
but at the same time. 

2100
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:01,880
They could have a service where 
they remove cloud, keep cod, 

2101
01:53:02,760 --> 01:53:06,320
maybe even reduce the price just
a little bit because cloud is 

2102
01:53:06,320 --> 01:53:09,160
not cheap. 
Hargit stresses this all the 

2103
01:53:09,160 --> 01:53:11,880
time. 
He's convinced that cloud has 

2104
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:16,040
increased that price to a 
specific degree that it, it's, 

2105
01:53:16,080 --> 01:53:20,360
it's just too much for, for how 
many people actually use it. 

2106
01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:22,680
And I, and I think I'm in 
agreement with them. 

2107
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:27,240
If it's really a costly thing, 
why have cloud in every tier? 

2108
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:31,240
Why not remove cloud? 
My only concern about this kind 

2109
01:53:31,240 --> 01:53:34,040
of stuff is that they've got so 
many tears and gets a little bit

2110
01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:36,840
convoluted. 
And I just like the messaging 

2111
01:53:36,840 --> 01:53:40,920
already is really kind of vague 
for the, for the masses. 

2112
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:43,000
Like they still haven't 
permeated the masses. 

2113
01:53:43,000 --> 01:53:47,080
I, I, I'm sorry, but the Netflix
of games, like, I mean, they 

2114
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:48,320
have a collaboration with 
Netflix. 

2115
01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:51,240
Part of my theory is that they 
would they get to say that 

2116
01:53:51,440 --> 01:53:53,400
because that itself would be 
really good messaging. 

2117
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:57,000
It's like the Netflix of games, 
but the, the, you know, mum and 

2118
01:53:57,000 --> 01:54:00,280
dad and your regular, you know, 
parents of the masses don't know

2119
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,040
about game plus still to this 
day. 

2120
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,480
Obviously the price hike just 
made it even worse. 

2121
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:06,760
And you know, now you have to go
back. 

2122
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:11,000
You do such an uphill battle. 
Xbox keeps undoing itself. 

2123
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:14,760
Even the game Pass was the most 
what really was the best value 

2124
01:54:14,760 --> 01:54:17,400
in gaming as a subscription 
service was it was, it was 

2125
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:19,840
incredible. 
And then you, you killed it by 

2126
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,160
being a price hike in. 
You need to have a thorough 

2127
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:24,960
revision. 
Xbox needs some major changes 

2128
01:54:24,960 --> 01:54:27,080
and those changes are coming 
with Xbox Game Plus. 

2129
01:54:27,160 --> 01:54:29,880
Ashley Sharma has literally told
you it's too expensive. 

2130
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:32,880
I just, I just don't know 
exactly how they're going to be 

2131
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:36,400
changing what they did. 
Become and yeah, and having the 

2132
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:38,960
Xbox first party only tier, I 
think that would be amazing. 

2133
01:54:38,960 --> 01:54:42,480
Yeah, and then like adding the 
extra stuff, like the Ubisoft 

2134
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:46,840
thing that isn't really day one 
and like the Fortnite, yeah, 

2135
01:54:46,840 --> 01:54:49,320
that that needs to go. 
There's no reason to have that 

2136
01:54:49,320 --> 01:54:51,880
'cause I'm sure that that's an 
extra couple of bucks there. 

2137
01:54:52,200 --> 01:54:54,000
Yeah, you know, they're special 
get. 

2138
01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:55,680
Rid of that shit. 
Man, exactly. 

2139
01:54:55,800 --> 01:54:57,480
No one cares. 
No one cares about that shit. 

2140
01:54:58,200 --> 01:55:04,360
I I who's used it like let me. 
I've heard, I've heard some Xbox

2141
01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:06,600
guys try to say they use it all 
the time. 

2142
01:55:06,840 --> 01:55:09,720
I love everything they've added.
I use it all the time. 

2143
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,240
Fortnite crew. 
Oh me and my kids use it all the

2144
01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:15,160
time. 
I'm like bro, come on. 

2145
01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:17,160
I mean, OK, finally they may use
it. 

2146
01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:23,920
Let me say, have you use the 
Fortnite is the four years of 

2147
01:55:24,400 --> 01:55:29,320
Fortnite Ubisoft shit and 
Fortnite crew on Xbox game pass?

2148
01:55:29,320 --> 01:55:30,920
Let me ask. 
That one pump man. 

2149
01:55:30,920 --> 01:55:35,400
Yes I did say that I would buy a
switch to if GTA 6 was exclusive

2150
01:55:35,400 --> 01:55:37,320
to that platform. 
Yes I would buy one. 

2151
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:42,400
Yeah, 100%, as shitty as that 
would be that they would do that

2152
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:46,320
to me, Rockstar, I I would still
do it because I want to play 

2153
01:55:46,320 --> 01:55:48,960
GTA6. 
Bro you're doing it with console

2154
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:51,560
already because they're not 
releasing on PC day one and 

2155
01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:54,240
you'll probably. 
Back to two games, I have APS 5 

2156
01:55:54,240 --> 01:55:59,240
Pro because I still play 
exclusives on console and a 4090

2157
01:55:59,240 --> 01:56:02,440
that I prefer to play on. 
But if you pull something off 

2158
01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:05,320
the 4090 and put it on a 
console, I'm going to get that 

2159
01:56:05,320 --> 01:56:07,920
console. 
Sorry, that's just the way I 

2160
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:11,240
roll. 
I don't know. 

2161
01:56:11,800 --> 01:56:12,760
No, haven't you? 
You're right. 

2162
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:14,720
Smash the smash the like button 
people. 

2163
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:19,680
If you think Xbox is a flexbox, 
I know what that means, but. 

2164
01:56:20,080 --> 01:56:23,600
Oh my God, you sounded totally 
like Colt Eastwood right there. 

2165
01:56:24,760 --> 01:56:27,320
I just was making some words of.
That the flexbox. 

2166
01:56:27,320 --> 01:56:29,680
The flexbox. 
There will be a flexbox with 

2167
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:32,560
that price tag I imagine will be
like 1500 or some shit. 

2168
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:36,680
I think it's going to be 
expensive as fuck, but if it's 

2169
01:56:36,680 --> 01:56:42,440
good quality and you you start, 
you know yeah, you I like that. 

2170
01:56:42,440 --> 01:56:44,760
You know, if you told me the 
old, you know the way the 

2171
01:56:44,760 --> 01:56:47,720
industries worked, if you told 
me the younger gas hey, Xbox 

2172
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:51,040
going to release this like 
hybrid beast device and and it's

2173
01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:55,520
catering for the hardcore with 
this price price point, I'd be 

2174
01:56:55,520 --> 01:57:02,080
like fucking yes, yes, do it. 
The only point problem is, is 

2175
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:04,800
exclusivity strategy. 
That's the thing that's 

2176
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:09,840
completely undoing the the scope
of Xbox to become something more

2177
01:57:09,920 --> 01:57:11,720
than just another third party 
publisher. 

2178
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:13,520
That's just meandering and 
surviving. 

2179
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:16,720
And Xbox, these and Microsoft 
need to recognise that they have

2180
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:20,080
they're sitting on a goldmine in
terms of long term if they have 

2181
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:23,920
any kind of creative vision. 
And again, I'm pessimistic. 

2182
01:57:23,960 --> 01:57:26,880
I don't think they'll do AU turn
and they'll be most likely timed

2183
01:57:26,880 --> 01:57:29,120
exclusive, maybe maybe not even 
that. 

2184
01:57:29,320 --> 01:57:32,920
And you know, I don't expect 
them more for them, but the 

2185
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:36,600
buttons on them to discharge. 
I feel like I would be stupid to

2186
01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:40,480
have faith in Xbox at this point
to to do right. 

2187
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:43,520
They always if they're anything 
you can guarantee the rake 

2188
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:46,720
stepping is is almost it's like 
night and day it will happen. 

2189
01:57:46,720 --> 01:57:48,600
It's like death and taxes. 
It's guaranteed. 

2190
01:57:49,080 --> 01:57:51,480
Dude did. 
Did you see the disingenuous 

2191
01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:53,360
conversations going on on 
Twitter? 

2192
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:57,720
People were upset at Xbox 
because they didn't put a 

2193
01:57:57,720 --> 01:58:02,120
PlayStation logo on the Metro 
2039 showcase. 

2194
01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:04,480
They just showed their own 
logos. 

2195
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:07,360
And I'm like, well, this is 
exactly what PlayStation has 

2196
01:58:07,360 --> 01:58:08,520
done forever. 
But. 

2197
01:58:08,560 --> 01:58:13,000
They were annoyed that Xbox. 
Yes, there was people annoyed by

2198
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:17,120
it on Twitter and they were 
arguing with people like why are

2199
01:58:17,160 --> 01:58:18,480
they doing this? 
Why? 

2200
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,640
Why are they? 
Why are they being disingenuous 

2201
01:58:20,640 --> 01:58:24,080
and just showing their own logo 
that we know it's coming out for

2202
01:58:24,080 --> 01:58:25,160
PlayStation? 
I'm like. 

2203
01:58:25,240 --> 01:58:28,680
Has done this. 
Strategy forever and we've been 

2204
01:58:28,680 --> 01:58:35,720
saying that Xbox should do the 
same bro like the logos is a 

2205
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:38,120
logo well I'll be honest with 
you it's. 

2206
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:43,360
Ridiculous when Jeff Keeley was 
allowed to announce the Xbox 

2207
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:45,120
the. 
PlayStation version of Indiana. 

2208
01:58:45,120 --> 01:58:47,880
Jones, but the game hadn't even 
come out for Xbox. 

2209
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:51,840
That was seen as a massive L 
massive L, So this is basically 

2210
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:54,560
an extension of that. 
A PlayStation doesn't show 

2211
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,120
Xbox's logos, but Xbox rushed 
out there with show PlayStation 

2212
01:58:57,120 --> 01:58:59,000
logos, which is lame. 
And they haven't done that 

2213
01:58:59,000 --> 01:59:01,040
forever. 
I mean, I remember even in the 

2214
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:03,880
with the PS4 they were doing 
that with Destiny. 

2215
01:59:04,120 --> 01:59:07,480
And people thought that Destiny 
was exclusive to PS4 because of 

2216
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:10,240
the marketing deal they had with
them and they never showed an 

2217
01:59:10,240 --> 01:59:12,400
Xbox logo. 
Absolutely, yeah. 

2218
01:59:12,400 --> 01:59:14,240
I mean, look, the masses don't 
look. 

2219
01:59:14,600 --> 01:59:16,840
They are. 
I I made a post about this 

2220
01:59:16,840 --> 01:59:18,880
PlayStation. 
Are so conniving with the way 

2221
01:59:18,880 --> 01:59:22,160
they they show the PlayStation 
exclusive I remember a post good

2222
01:59:22,160 --> 01:59:25,280
years ago where they basically 
laundered but it looked like 

2223
01:59:25,280 --> 01:59:29,560
they were they were PlayStation 
exclusives and Xbox yeah yeah 

2224
01:59:29,560 --> 01:59:33,320
there are so many casuals out 
there who saw that metro 2039 

2225
01:59:33,320 --> 01:59:35,440
thing and honestly think it's 
just on. 

2226
01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:40,200
Xbox, yeah, no, which is a play 
for these businesses and it's so

2227
01:59:40,200 --> 01:59:43,240
fucking it, it's stupid to cry. 
About it, it's like. 

2228
01:59:43,600 --> 01:59:47,560
Sony has done it forever. 
I'm glad I didn't see that shit 

2229
01:59:47,560 --> 01:59:50,160
but that's so so lame. 
I didn't see the. 

2230
01:59:50,160 --> 01:59:51,560
In fact, it's the first time 
ever now. 

2231
01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,080
I've. 
Never played the Metro games so 

2232
01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:55,720
I've not played. 
I've not seen. 

2233
01:59:55,720 --> 01:59:57,240
I've never seen the trailer 
Metro. 

2234
01:59:57,240 --> 02:00:00,600
The last Metro was really good. 
I need to play that because it 

2235
02:00:00,600 --> 02:00:02,680
looks amazing. 
When it came. 

2236
02:00:02,680 --> 02:00:06,840
Out on the 1X man it it was so. 
Freaking beautiful. 

2237
02:00:06,840 --> 02:00:09,080
I remember just. 
Playing through that game, just 

2238
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:11,480
in awe of that, just the way it 
looked. 

2239
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:14,800
This one looked incredible, too.
I'm looking forward to it. 

2240
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:16,600
Yeah. 
So I haven't seen it yet. 

2241
02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:18,760
So I know a lot of people are 
really hyped about it. 

2242
02:00:18,760 --> 02:00:22,640
Put up the the trailer. 
It's playing right now. 

2243
02:00:22,640 --> 02:00:24,600
It's the CGI trailer. 
I don't know if there's any 

2244
02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:26,480
gameplay. 
In this but no there I saw. 

2245
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:28,680
Gameplay. 
Not in the Maybe it wasn't the 

2246
02:00:28,680 --> 02:00:30,560
trailer. 
It was the stuff they were 

2247
02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:34,120
showing at the very. 
End OK, maybe I might, I might, 

2248
02:00:34,120 --> 02:00:36,200
I might show up in a SEC of the 
showcase. 

2249
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:38,240
There's gameplay, CGI cutscene 
playing. 

2250
02:00:38,240 --> 02:00:40,760
Here looks pretty dark. 
There's always been a really 

2251
02:00:40,760 --> 02:00:42,360
dark game, I. 
Wonder if it has ray tracing in 

2252
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:45,160
this game chat if you let. 
Me know if it has ray tracing or

2253
02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:49,320
better yet path tracing. 
PS support because the games 

2254
02:00:49,320 --> 02:00:51,920
always looked really good. 
Really really dark. 

2255
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:54,200
I feel like it's a game that I 
would really like. 

2256
02:00:55,720 --> 02:00:59,280
Don't even imagine if you had a 
like talking about the logo 

2257
02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:01,000
thing. 
Imagine if you had a little 

2258
02:01:01,000 --> 02:01:03,760
store, right? 
And you were selling a product 

2259
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:06,520
that was sold everywhere, but 
not maybe it's a brand new 

2260
02:01:06,520 --> 02:01:09,120
product, maybe not. 
A lot of people know you're not 

2261
02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:13,880
going to be advertising Joe's 
Smack and Shack and they sell it

2262
02:01:13,880 --> 02:01:15,200
too. 
You know, you're not going to be

2263
02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:18,120
putting that out there with this
product like you're going to say

2264
02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:20,520
you can get this anywhere, guys.
It's not just here. 

2265
02:01:20,800 --> 02:01:22,560
Like I get what these businesses
do. 

2266
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:25,800
It's just it, it, it was the 
conversation that I saw between 

2267
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:27,800
some PlayStation guys and Xbox 
guys. 

2268
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:31,760
I was like, you guys are really 
mad that the Xbox did the same 

2269
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:33,880
thing that Sony's been doing 
forever. 

2270
02:01:33,880 --> 02:01:36,360
Oh my God, it's, it's so odd to 
me. 

2271
02:01:36,520 --> 02:01:40,400
It's, it's just, it's just sad. 
It's it's how much money? 

2272
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:44,320
Do companies pay just for 
marketing rights? 

2273
02:01:44,640 --> 02:01:46,680
They're just marketing it to 
make people think it's 

2274
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:51,560
associated with that platform 
Sony and but I was creaming 

2275
02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:55,720
themselves over the prospect of 
PlayStation, which should most 

2276
02:01:55,720 --> 02:02:00,120
likely get the marketing deal 
for Rockstarz game GTA6. 

2277
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:04,360
You think that makes that's a 
people pay will pay millions 

2278
02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:06,360
upon millions of millions not 
wrong. 

2279
02:02:06,360 --> 02:02:09,320
There was people at casuals 
about Playstations thinking that

2280
02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:13,000
Hogwarts Legacy was. 
Yes, yes, absolutely. 

2281
02:02:13,560 --> 02:02:15,640
Because of the marketing deals, 
it happens. 

2282
02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:17,360
I have these conversations all 
the. 

2283
02:02:17,360 --> 02:02:21,320
Time with. 
With like, you know, the 

2284
02:02:21,320 --> 02:02:23,400
casuals, they will say. 
Oh is it on Xbox as well? 

2285
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:25,400
I saw a trailer on that. 
I thought it was just a 

2286
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:28,360
PlayStation game. 
That happens all the freaking 

2287
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:31,360
time. 
I see that argument all the time

2288
02:02:31,360 --> 02:02:35,960
and that and XX boxes has to 
drop the whole kumbaya act 

2289
02:02:36,040 --> 02:02:39,640
because you can see that it's 
just so counterintuitive to not 

2290
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:42,800
only their own platform but it's
also the perception of it and 

2291
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:45,320
you know it's working for the 
other two players are not doing 

2292
02:02:45,320 --> 02:02:49,000
it so why on earth would you get
so dumb? 

2293
02:02:49,200 --> 02:02:53,640
Same thing Sony still buys they 
still money hat third parties. 

2294
02:02:54,080 --> 02:02:56,840
They they tried the. 
Money hat Crimson Desert. 

2295
02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:59,240
Oh, they did. 
They tried the money hat that 

2296
02:02:59,240 --> 02:03:01,720
game. 
Yeah, imagine if they had. 

2297
02:03:01,720 --> 02:03:03,480
Holy shit this game looks. 
Amazing. 

2298
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:06,640
Doesn't it? 
It looks freaking incredible. 

2299
02:03:06,640 --> 02:03:09,720
The fuck this game looks? 
Insane there's got to be PC. 

2300
02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:12,720
Gameplay or something? 
That no dude, it looks good. 

2301
02:03:12,720 --> 02:03:15,200
On. 
Even on the 1X, the old game. 

2302
02:03:15,400 --> 02:03:17,240
I need to freaking play these 
games now. 

2303
02:03:17,240 --> 02:03:19,920
Why have I not played them? 
Yeah, you need, you need to play

2304
02:03:19,920 --> 02:03:22,120
it. 
Are they janky or what I felt 

2305
02:03:22,120 --> 02:03:23,040
like? 
They might be janky. 

2306
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:24,600
No, they're they're really. 
Good. 

2307
02:03:24,960 --> 02:03:28,800
The I would say the last. 
One was the better one. 

2308
02:03:29,000 --> 02:03:31,840
The first two had a little jank 
here and there but they were 

2309
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:34,760
still solid games. 
Damn man this game looks 

2310
02:03:34,760 --> 02:03:38,520
freaking amazing. 
The visuals are insane. 

2311
02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:39,600
Obviously there's a lot of 
canned. 

2312
02:03:39,600 --> 02:03:40,800
OK, there's a little bit of 
cinematic. 

2313
02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:44,400
Oh, I thought that was in game. 
It said a mix of in game and 

2314
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:45,840
cinematic. 
That's in game, man, that's 

2315
02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:47,880
Bullshot. 
But it still looks really good. 

2316
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:50,320
You can tell when it's going 
through the tunnels and 

2317
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:52,720
everything and. 
You're shooting it looks really 

2318
02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:54,120
good. 
Alright, I'll go forward by this

2319
02:03:54,120 --> 02:03:56,600
and imagine that on your old LED
monitor, bro. 

2320
02:03:56,720 --> 02:03:58,640
Yeah, imagine that in the old. 
I'll be the judge. 

2321
02:03:58,640 --> 02:04:02,080
I'll be the judge of that. 
Whether or not that's real or 

2322
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:04,080
not, I feel like they might be 
pulling the wall of. 

2323
02:04:04,080 --> 02:04:06,320
Their eyes. 
Xbox first party shows the logos

2324
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:07,640
because they want you to buy the
game. 

2325
02:04:07,880 --> 02:04:09,520
So why would they exclude third 
party? 

2326
02:04:09,520 --> 02:04:13,440
It's hypocritical and rules for 
for for thee but not for me. 

2327
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:15,160
What? 
Paris Lewis says. 

2328
02:04:15,160 --> 02:04:18,680
Xbox first party shows the logos
because they want you to buy the

2329
02:04:18,680 --> 02:04:23,000
games, so why would they exclude
that party? 

2330
02:04:23,400 --> 02:04:26,160
It's hypocritical and rules for 
thee were not for me. 

2331
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:28,480
Yeah. 
Oh it's hypocritical of Xbox not

2332
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:32,960
show metro metros stuff. 
I mean Xbox doesn't even do it. 

2333
02:04:32,960 --> 02:04:36,080
Shouldn't really do that anyway.
In PlayStation they don't even 

2334
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:40,400
bother putting up Xbox logos. 
It's actually quite funny. 

2335
02:04:40,400 --> 02:04:42,960
And Xbox Live now please I will 
do it. 

2336
02:04:42,960 --> 02:04:46,600
Kumba. 
Yeah, by Lord, what was this 

2337
02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:49,400
poll night? 
82% of you. 

2338
02:04:49,680 --> 02:04:51,800
Have said that you don't use the
SO. 

2339
02:04:52,000 --> 02:04:53,320
Look at that. 
That's a lot. 

2340
02:04:53,320 --> 02:04:57,440
And Fortnite crew on Game Pass. 
Yeah, you know, like I know. 

2341
02:04:57,480 --> 02:04:59,200
I don't know anyone who does. 
I don't know anyone. 

2342
02:04:59,360 --> 02:05:01,200
Apart from the special nick, he 
says, his kids. 

2343
02:05:01,200 --> 02:05:05,520
Use it a lot. 
Which is OK, fine, but I don't 

2344
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:07,240
know what what the play plays 
are. 

2345
02:05:07,440 --> 02:05:09,200
We saw Metro. 
We have to. 

2346
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:12,040
Talk about pragmata. 
It's another game that's come 

2347
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:14,400
out of Capcom. 
Just don't miss man. 

2348
02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:17,240
They're just so Capcom seems to 
be killing it lately. 

2349
02:05:17,360 --> 02:05:21,000
Bro they're they're on fire. 
RE-9 was incredible. 

2350
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,720
This one I I. 
I mean you've you've completed 

2351
02:05:25,320 --> 02:05:28,520
RE. 9 as well, didn't you? 
Yeah, I I completed RE 9. 

2352
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:30,400
I thought it was definitely a 
game. 

2353
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:34,240
Of the year contender, yeah. 
Shit man, really good. 

2354
02:05:34,400 --> 02:05:37,640
I need to complete Carlos before
I can even go into that. 

2355
02:05:38,680 --> 02:05:40,160
Because. 
Yeah. 

2356
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:43,440
Another horror game like that 
everyone's like you need to play

2357
02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:46,360
you know requiem. 
It just looks dank. 

2358
02:05:47,000 --> 02:05:48,600
This is another one Capcom was 
just killing it. 

2359
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:52,360
So many people share Luke was 
telling me about the path 

2360
02:05:52,360 --> 02:05:55,640
tracing on this is insane. 
The game looks insane. 

2361
02:05:55,640 --> 02:05:59,880
I'm so grateful for path tracing
not being relegated to I 

2362
02:05:59,880 --> 02:06:02,480
remember the start of the Gen 
I'm looking at Minecraft and I'm

2363
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:05,120
like fuck is that it like it's 
this this is real. 

2364
02:06:05,320 --> 02:06:09,480
This is real fucking ray tracing
tech and it's relegated to just 

2365
02:06:09,480 --> 02:06:10,960
my Minecraft and now we're 
starting. 

2366
02:06:10,960 --> 02:06:13,600
To see with these AI. 
Upscaling tools, the frames and 

2367
02:06:13,600 --> 02:06:16,360
all the shit that we can 
actually finally enjoy path 

2368
02:06:16,360 --> 02:06:20,320
tracing in with big heavyweight 
titles like Cyberpunk with 

2369
02:06:20,320 --> 02:06:23,560
Pragmata. 
Resident Evil us looks looks 

2370
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:26,760
amazing. 
It looks so this game looks 

2371
02:06:26,760 --> 02:06:29,600
really cool. 
I don't know if I have the time 

2372
02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:32,200
to play this game, man. 
I don't even know what it is, 

2373
02:06:32,200 --> 02:06:34,120
but it looks really good and 
it's saying, I think it's like 

2374
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:38,080
88 or 87. 
It's basically a story driven, 

2375
02:06:38,160 --> 02:06:44,080
heavy story driven shooter. 
I played the demo for it and I'm

2376
02:06:44,080 --> 02:06:46,480
in the minority. 
I don't care for the combat 

2377
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:51,040
system and that's only because, 
well, they have this little 

2378
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:54,200
hacking thing you do before you 
can really do much damage with 

2379
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:56,520
your weapon. 
You could shoot your weapon and 

2380
02:06:56,520 --> 02:06:59,040
it it's like pissing on the 
enemy. 

2381
02:06:59,040 --> 02:07:00,840
It's it doesn't hardly any 
damage. 

2382
02:07:01,400 --> 02:07:04,640
But then the the little girl on 
your back, she does this like 

2383
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:09,240
thing where it slows down time 
and it's a hacking thing. 

2384
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:14,240
So you like hack it and then you
can shoot heavier bullets. 

2385
02:07:14,760 --> 02:07:16,200
Oh, right. 
This is a bit of a yeah. 

2386
02:07:16,280 --> 02:07:18,920
And I just don't care about the 
hacking portion of it. 

2387
02:07:18,920 --> 02:07:22,200
Like it just it annoyed me. 
But some. 

2388
02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:25,360
People love it. 
So I, you know, don't listen to 

2389
02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:26,040
me. 
I'm in. 

2390
02:07:26,040 --> 02:07:29,880
I'm in the minority on this one.
No, I I don't know what to 

2391
02:07:29,880 --> 02:07:31,920
expect of this one. 
This is a game that we've been 

2392
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:36,120
covering for a while. 
It looks really nice. 

2393
02:07:36,120 --> 02:07:37,640
It's beautiful. 
Yeah. 

2394
02:07:37,640 --> 02:07:39,680
Well, you know, I'm sure with 
Pat Racing it's going to look 

2395
02:07:39,680 --> 02:07:42,680
even more. 
Stunning the whole the setup. 

2396
02:07:42,680 --> 02:07:45,480
Just looks. 
Like unique and you know, yeah, 

2397
02:07:45,480 --> 02:07:49,720
see CPT in the Awesome 23. 
He said the combat is fun, he 

2398
02:07:49,720 --> 02:07:53,680
likes the hacking and stuff. 
I just don't like that aspect. 

2399
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:58,560
It's just, I don't know, just 
takes me out of it bro. 

2400
02:07:58,600 --> 02:08:00,600
We've got so many good games now
though. 

2401
02:08:00,680 --> 02:08:02,840
It's like not every game has to 
appeal for everyone. 

2402
02:08:03,720 --> 02:08:05,480
No, no. 
No, but you know, like I said, 

2403
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:08,360
RE 90, man, that thing was so 
much fun. 

2404
02:08:08,520 --> 02:08:12,760
How was the combat in that? 
Really good, really solid man 

2405
02:08:14,040 --> 02:08:16,040
and. 
It looked amazing dude. 

2406
02:08:17,080 --> 02:08:21,160
And, and moreover, the the 
performance, the performance on 

2407
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:24,040
your PC so good. 
And yeah. 

2408
02:08:24,040 --> 02:08:26,520
And that that this is, this is 
their own engine, isn't it? 

2409
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:29,360
It's not UE5, it's the RE. 
Engine. 

2410
02:08:29,360 --> 02:08:31,920
Yeah, yeah. 
So you know, this is it's it's 

2411
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:34,520
RERE 9 is. 
Short and sweet. 

2412
02:08:34,520 --> 02:08:35,720
Magnum, thanks for telling me 
that. 

2413
02:08:35,720 --> 02:08:39,880
That makes it go up really high 
in my priority of games to play.

2414
02:08:40,080 --> 02:08:42,800
Dude, you can definitely play 
through that in the weekend. 

2415
02:08:42,800 --> 02:08:43,720
Bro. 
Is it? 

2416
02:08:43,720 --> 02:08:45,800
Oh, wicked. 
Yeah, I need. 

2417
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:49,120
More games like that. 
I need four games and and it's 

2418
02:08:49,120 --> 02:08:51,080
exactly. 
The kind of game you like too. 

2419
02:08:51,080 --> 02:08:53,320
Just a linear experience, you 
know. 

2420
02:08:54,640 --> 02:09:00,360
It's fun, lot of fun man, lots 
of cool weapons and things like 

2421
02:09:00,480 --> 02:09:04,320
you know, because you've got, 
you've got 2 elements of it. 

2422
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:06,840
We I know we're supposed to talk
about Programmata, but you've 

2423
02:09:06,840 --> 02:09:10,320
got 2 elements of. 
That game you've obviously got 

2424
02:09:10,320 --> 02:09:12,280
Grace is a bit, but it's much 
slower. 

2425
02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:14,840
Yeah, it's more horror, yeah, 
which I like. 

2426
02:09:15,160 --> 02:09:16,720
I want them to do that a little 
bit of. 

2427
02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:20,600
So the cool part about that is. 
I'm more of a third person guy. 

2428
02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:24,720
And I tried to play it in 3rd. 
Person with her and it was 

2429
02:09:24,720 --> 02:09:28,960
better in first person because 
of the whole aspect so with her 

2430
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:31,440
I played first person. 
They recommended the beginning 

2431
02:09:31,440 --> 02:09:34,160
of the game too. 
They tell you so I played it in 

2432
02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:37,720
first person with her and 3rd 
with Leon and it was just 

2433
02:09:37,840 --> 02:09:41,320
fantastic. 
Capcom, Capcom are killing it. 

2434
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:44,400
They're really doing well, and 
there was a point where they 

2435
02:09:44,400 --> 02:09:46,720
were almost like the. 
Konami off of the game industry,

2436
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:48,440
they're really they're really 
just messing up. 

2437
02:09:49,200 --> 02:09:52,840
They fixed up so well from their
St. 

2438
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:55,160
You have to remember, like this 
year, the Monster Hunter. 

2439
02:09:55,160 --> 02:09:59,000
I know I think Monster Hunter 
didn't do as well as they should

2440
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:00,920
have. 
I'll be honest, based on the 

2441
02:10:00,920 --> 02:10:02,800
reception for it and they had 
tech issues and blah, blah, 

2442
02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:04,600
blah, but they had Street 
Fighter. 

2443
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:07,360
My brother's just streaming that
all the time now. 

2444
02:10:07,360 --> 02:10:08,680
Street Fighters watching our 
board. 

2445
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:11,200
Street Fighter. 
Yeah, Street Fighter. 

2446
02:10:11,240 --> 02:10:14,040
Go ahead, trailer. 
This first movie looks super 

2447
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:15,200
cheesy. 
But. 

2448
02:10:15,520 --> 02:10:19,960
Oh God that movie looks so bad. 
We expect the cheese now. 

2449
02:10:20,000 --> 02:10:23,920
The original was so bad. 
With Banderos, yeah, that's why.

2450
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:26,600
It's like you expect the. 
Cheese with it, I guess. 

2451
02:10:27,480 --> 02:10:29,480
And about, you know, Mortal 
Kombat the. 

2452
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:31,680
New movie that trailer. 
This gives me shit as well. 

2453
02:10:31,680 --> 02:10:37,880
I hated the last Pragmatic 
though is the quality is really 

2454
02:10:37,880 --> 02:10:39,800
there like when I played through
the demo. 

2455
02:10:40,040 --> 02:10:42,720
That's the one thing like it's 
beautiful. 

2456
02:10:42,720 --> 02:10:46,200
It's it feels good. 
It's just a hacking element for 

2457
02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:47,840
me. 
If it wasn't for that one 

2458
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,480
element, I would I would have 
bought this game. 

2459
02:10:51,080 --> 02:10:54,000
I would have played it all the 
way through because it's my type

2460
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:56,760
of game. 
I like the the heavy on story 

2461
02:10:57,200 --> 02:11:00,840
game and I heard it's got a 
great story. 

2462
02:11:01,720 --> 02:11:03,480
Oh, right. 
OK, that's interesting. 

2463
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:06,160
They have got great stories. 
The main thing that I kind of 

2464
02:11:06,160 --> 02:11:08,040
will drive me they've. 
Got this whole thing with the 

2465
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:11,000
the little robo girl in there. 
It reminds me of that movie 

2466
02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:15,160
where that chick AI kid. 
What was that movie chat? 

2467
02:11:15,440 --> 02:11:16,760
It came out a couple of years 
ago. 

2468
02:11:16,760 --> 02:11:18,440
Really good movie. 
I think it just went under the 

2469
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:23,000
radar where AI are fighting 
humans and there's this one kid 

2470
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:27,440
who's the AI they gave birth to 
this kid, AI kid and he's like 

2471
02:11:27,440 --> 02:11:28,840
really smart. 
It was really good movie. 

2472
02:11:30,160 --> 02:11:32,720
I like the premise of that. 
And then Ubisoft, well, Ubisoft,

2473
02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:37,520
Capcom have Anamusha coming out.
I don't know what that's coming 

2474
02:11:37,520 --> 02:11:37,720
out. 
Yeah. 

2475
02:11:37,720 --> 02:11:39,480
That was another one that I saw 
last week. 

2476
02:11:39,480 --> 02:11:43,320
I was, I forgot about that game.
And then I I was talking to. 

2477
02:11:43,320 --> 02:11:45,720
Hargeet about all the games 
coming out this year and I, I 

2478
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:48,720
told him, I said, dude, I was 
looking up all the games that's 

2479
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:51,360
supposed to drop. 
I said we totally dropped the 

2480
02:11:51,360 --> 02:11:55,640
ball on Anamusha too. 
Like this game looked incredible

2481
02:11:55,640 --> 02:12:00,320
and it's coming out and dude, 
and again, Capcom is killing it.

2482
02:12:00,600 --> 02:12:02,080
It's not Megan killing it 
lately. 

2483
02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:03,960
It's not Dune or it's. 
Not. 

2484
02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:05,440
Megan Yeah, Capcom killing it 
man. 

2485
02:12:05,560 --> 02:12:10,360
When is on a mission coming? 
Out it doesn't have a a specific

2486
02:12:10,360 --> 02:12:12,480
date. 
Oh is it just says 2026? 

2487
02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:13,960
It says 20. 26 as well. 
Fuck. 

2488
02:12:14,320 --> 02:12:16,440
That no chance they're gonna 
delay that nowhere. 

2489
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:17,840
How? 
This is what I'm saying, like 

2490
02:12:17,840 --> 02:12:18,760
there's so many games, I don't 
know. 

2491
02:12:18,760 --> 02:12:21,040
How all these games are coming 
out this year dude. 

2492
02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:23,640
Bro how are you gonna navigate 
GTA6? 

2493
02:12:23,680 --> 02:12:27,360
All these games I don't. 
Know bro, I remember the you 

2494
02:12:27,360 --> 02:12:30,200
know a lot this weekend we had 
some rumours suggesting that. 

2495
02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:34,600
So, Jeff? 
Jeff Grubb got it wrong with him

2496
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:36,440
suggesting that fable's going to
get delayed. 

2497
02:12:36,480 --> 02:12:38,200
But as soon as they announced 
that fable's going to get 

2498
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:39,960
delayed to me and you were like,
you know what? 

2499
02:12:39,960 --> 02:12:42,760
This is a good thing because I 
was like, this is good. 

2500
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:45,360
Yeah, it's too much. 
Yeah, It's too much that Xbox 

2501
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:49,360
games need some breathing space.
Yeah, yeah. 

2502
02:12:49,360 --> 02:12:52,160
I wanted to see Fable. 
Do do better and I think the 

2503
02:12:52,200 --> 02:12:56,040
coming out next spring it. 
Would do much better, yeah, 

2504
02:12:56,320 --> 02:13:00,760
because the even putting it in 
August or September you've got 

2505
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:02,480
so. 
Many games there that that. 

2506
02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:06,840
Will over shadow Fable. 
It is insane. 

2507
02:13:07,280 --> 02:13:09,280
You can't have a game that 
overshadows us Fable. 

2508
02:13:09,320 --> 02:13:10,800
There's too much investment. 
In that game. 

2509
02:13:11,000 --> 02:13:15,280
It's not like that's a it's like
that Horizon 0 dawn effect. 

2510
02:13:15,280 --> 02:13:18,440
Remember Horizon 0? 
Dawn got overshadowed. 

2511
02:13:18,440 --> 02:13:20,720
And then Horizon Forbidden W got
overshadowed. 

2512
02:13:20,920 --> 02:13:24,640
Still sold well eventually, but 
I remember that first week. 

2513
02:13:25,400 --> 02:13:27,840
Yeah, they were both 
overshadowed on their launch 

2514
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:29,360
dates. 
Yeah, Whippet got it right. 

2515
02:13:29,360 --> 02:13:31,040
The Creator. 
I think you're right. 

2516
02:13:31,080 --> 02:13:34,600
The Creator is the movie. 
I was thinking of Creator. 

2517
02:13:34,600 --> 02:13:36,520
I don't know that it's a It's a 
really good. 

2518
02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:38,320
Yeah, it's the creator. 
Yeah, it's a really good movie. 

2519
02:13:38,760 --> 02:13:40,160
Do check it out. 
I'll have to check. 

2520
02:13:40,160 --> 02:13:41,240
It out it's really cool. 
It's. 

2521
02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:43,600
Really good effect. sci-fi 
movie. 

2522
02:13:43,640 --> 02:13:45,440
Sci-fi movie? 
Yeah, really good. 

2523
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:47,160
Effect it's it's. 
Really good. 

2524
02:13:47,240 --> 02:13:48,200
Is this really good one of 
those? 

2525
02:13:48,200 --> 02:13:48,880
I'll look it. 
Up. 

2526
02:13:48,880 --> 02:13:50,360
I'll look it up. 
Yeah, so. 

2527
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:52,760
You know, you're right with the 
fable like delay thing. 

2528
02:13:52,760 --> 02:13:55,560
It's I agree with you, I. 
Think it's it's a good problem 

2529
02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:56,600
to. 
Have, you know, you used to say 

2530
02:13:56,600 --> 02:13:59,440
Xbox has no games. 
Now Xbox has too many games. 

2531
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:04,120
You know, that's AI. 
Hope that carries on and I think

2532
02:14:04,120 --> 02:14:05,480
next. 
Year is also maybe. 

2533
02:14:05,480 --> 02:14:09,800
Not as strong as this year 
because they I wouldn't say 

2534
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:13,640
that, man. 
Because dude, think about this. 

2535
02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:16,960
Think about this. 
Man, look at we just talked 

2536
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:20,800
about how these Chinese and and 
Korean you got all these eastern

2537
02:14:20,800 --> 02:14:27,120
players in the game now dude, Wu
Kong was a few years back game 

2538
02:14:27,120 --> 02:14:28,800
science could announce something
this year. 

2539
02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:33,760
Who knows like you know, 
anything could happen game it 

2540
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:35,880
was what's it called? 
Oh, that's right. 

2541
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:40,360
They had the Yeah, that's right.
But anyways, you got so many 

2542
02:14:40,360 --> 02:14:44,240
players in the game. 
I I bet you anything, like I 

2543
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:48,080
said, I feel good about this 
year with unannounced things. 

2544
02:14:48,080 --> 02:14:51,160
I think we're going to see this 
at the the Summer Games Fest. 

2545
02:14:51,680 --> 02:14:53,320
There must be a sequel. 
Sorry. 

2546
02:14:53,560 --> 02:14:56,680
Yeah, Xbox Game Showcase and 
stuff. 

2547
02:14:56,880 --> 02:14:58,200
We're going to see some new 
stuff. 

2548
02:14:58,200 --> 02:15:00,040
That's we're going to be like 
what? 

2549
02:15:00,040 --> 02:15:04,040
2027, man, next year's going to 
be great too. 

2550
02:15:04,040 --> 02:15:06,480
I I guarantee it. 
We're going to be excited. 

2551
02:15:07,160 --> 02:15:12,440
Well, if they announce if, if, 
if it turns out that, What's it 

2552
02:15:12,440 --> 02:15:16,600
called? 
What a Elder Scrolls? 

2553
02:15:16,920 --> 02:15:19,120
Sorry I can't speak if Elder 
Scrolls. 

2554
02:15:19,240 --> 02:15:22,160
Was is is coming out next? 
Year then that conversation 

2555
02:15:22,160 --> 02:15:27,080
shifts straight away. 
That is a big title big title if

2556
02:15:27,080 --> 02:15:28,440
Elder Scrolls coming out next 
year. 

2557
02:15:28,440 --> 02:15:30,240
I don't know if it's going to 
come out next year, but I I'll 

2558
02:15:30,240 --> 02:15:31,360
tell you what it's going to be 
good. 

2559
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:34,920
But here's the thing. 
Don't you think that if going 

2560
02:15:34,920 --> 02:15:37,840
back to Helix, if Helix really 
does? 

2561
02:15:37,840 --> 02:15:41,080
Drop end of 2027, don't you 
think they need a really big 

2562
02:15:41,080 --> 02:15:43,600
game to drop with it? 
Bro this is the reason why I 

2563
02:15:43,600 --> 02:15:45,960
said Gears of War should fucking
be delayed for the release of 

2564
02:15:45,960 --> 02:15:47,760
that thing because you want to 
something that shows off the 

2565
02:15:47,760 --> 02:15:49,320
power of this. 
Thing that's supposed to be 

2566
02:15:49,320 --> 02:15:52,200
really powerful. 
What better game that Xbox has 

2567
02:15:52,200 --> 02:15:54,920
coming out in its road map than 
Gears of War? 

2568
02:15:54,920 --> 02:15:58,120
Gears of War will be the best 
looking I know, especially 

2569
02:15:58,120 --> 02:16:01,720
because the Coalition and what 
they can do with UE5. 

2570
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:04,680
That's what I'm saying like. 
There's no rush for gears for 

2571
02:16:04,680 --> 02:16:06,560
this year. 
Like what are you doing? 

2572
02:16:06,760 --> 02:16:08,840
And again. 2020 fifth 
anniversary. 

2573
02:16:08,840 --> 02:16:11,040
You know they're going to put it
out this year about fuck the 

2574
02:16:11,040 --> 02:16:13,400
25th anniversary, man. 
Well, I just want the game. 

2575
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:16,280
To be good and ultimately at the
end of the day, but you know it 

2576
02:16:16,280 --> 02:16:19,280
would have. 
Been really cool like any 

2577
02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:21,040
platform. 
I know the generations the whole

2578
02:16:21,040 --> 02:16:23,400
thing is dead anyway but it's 
always good. 

2579
02:16:23,640 --> 02:16:25,240
PlayStation are really good at 
this. 

2580
02:16:25,400 --> 02:16:30,680
PlayStation with the PS3, no PS3
but they have launched with PS3.

2581
02:16:30,680 --> 02:16:31,960
PS4 they have Killzone, 
Shadowfall. 

2582
02:16:31,960 --> 02:16:36,959
Not great game but even today to
this day technical showcase Xbox

2583
02:16:36,959 --> 02:16:41,600
One still to this day had a 
really good launch with Rye Son 

2584
02:16:41,600 --> 02:16:44,840
of Rome that still holds its own
to this day and at least showed 

2585
02:16:44,840 --> 02:16:48,200
you the tech of that thing. 
It's like it'll still looks 

2586
02:16:48,200 --> 02:16:49,080
good. 
It holds. 

2587
02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:52,920
Don't worry, Helix will drop 
with State of Decay 3. 

2588
02:16:56,200 --> 02:16:58,840
By the way, I did get into that 
alpha you did. 

2589
02:16:59,639 --> 02:17:01,600
Yeah, yeah. 
I'm not in it. 

2590
02:17:01,600 --> 02:17:04,559
Yet. 
But I, I did sign up and they 

2591
02:17:04,559 --> 02:17:09,280
sent me an e-mail and said that 
maybe in May I'll get in. 

2592
02:17:09,440 --> 02:17:12,000
I want to play that. 
So I feel like it might be a bit

2593
02:17:12,000 --> 02:17:13,959
of a let down. 
I think already the scope of it 

2594
02:17:13,959 --> 02:17:15,559
is a bit let down, but the 
clockwork revolution. 

2595
02:17:15,639 --> 02:17:17,680
I just want to see. 
I just want to see what it's 

2596
02:17:17,680 --> 02:17:19,000
like. 
I want to see what it's like so 

2597
02:17:19,000 --> 02:17:21,440
I can talk about, you know, 
eventually and the. 

2598
02:17:21,440 --> 02:17:23,520
People complaining, I remember 
in the chat, you know, last time

2599
02:17:23,520 --> 02:17:24,200
we talked about. 
Like. 

2600
02:17:25,240 --> 02:17:26,719
Oh, guess you're just way you. 
Want. 

2601
02:17:26,719 --> 02:17:28,600
State of Decay. 
We want more State of Decay to 

2602
02:17:28,600 --> 02:17:30,000
be State of Decay. 
I'm like State. 

2603
02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:32,400
I want State of Decay to be a 
multiplayer game, man. 

2604
02:17:32,400 --> 02:17:34,959
Yeah, same bro. 
We've talked about this. 

2605
02:17:34,959 --> 02:17:38,480
We we wanted it to be more like 
an MMO than it is. 

2606
02:17:39,520 --> 02:17:43,760
It's just kind of it's where you
would see an evolution of a game

2607
02:17:43,760 --> 02:17:45,920
like that. 
Yeah, honestly, yeah. 

2608
02:17:46,200 --> 02:17:49,520
Kind of like the day before that
fake game that you're supposed 

2609
02:17:49,559 --> 02:17:54,840
to get, but the promise was 
there that like The Division and

2610
02:17:54,840 --> 02:17:55,879
so many people. 
Did. 

2611
02:17:55,879 --> 02:17:58,200
Come out and say that. 
Oh damn it man, I was hoping it.

2612
02:17:58,200 --> 02:18:00,200
Would be like the division. 
But with zombies and stuff like 

2613
02:18:00,200 --> 02:18:04,160
that and everyone wants that and
someone has to make that game. 

2614
02:18:04,160 --> 02:18:08,360
They're sitting on a goldmine. 
It's a multi $1,000,000 seller 

2615
02:18:08,719 --> 02:18:12,400
that will multiple copies. 
That game exists conceptually, 

2616
02:18:12,520 --> 02:18:14,840
it needs to be made. 
It's not saved to K3 

2617
02:18:14,840 --> 02:18:18,600
unfortunately, especially if you
add those resources, you know, 

2618
02:18:18,600 --> 02:18:21,559
even the base, all that you 
have, all that. 

2619
02:18:22,920 --> 02:18:25,080
Because that's something that 
traditionally you don't have 

2620
02:18:25,080 --> 02:18:27,760
with like a division or you 
don't have with an R graders. 

2621
02:18:28,200 --> 02:18:32,799
But if you added that element 
into it along with the human 

2622
02:18:32,799 --> 02:18:35,440
element and the zombies, you 
have a winner. 

2623
02:18:35,559 --> 02:18:39,360
You have a freaking winner. 
That again, I say this a lot, 

2624
02:18:39,480 --> 02:18:41,959
but the blueprints are out there
for great games. 

2625
02:18:42,280 --> 02:18:45,840
These developers just need to 
look at and tweak these, you 

2626
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:48,879
know, games a bit, make 
something their own. 

2627
02:18:49,400 --> 02:18:53,680
But man, the blueprints for a 
fantastic, successful game are 

2628
02:18:53,680 --> 02:18:55,639
out there. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2629
02:18:55,639 --> 02:18:59,240
No, honestly, it's, I mean, look
what Pearl Abyss did. 

2630
02:18:59,240 --> 02:19:01,200
Pearl Abyss just said. 
F it with Crimson. 

2631
02:19:01,200 --> 02:19:02,879
Desert. 
They took everything good from 

2632
02:19:02,879 --> 02:19:05,200
every. 
Other RPG out there, Yeah, yeah,

2633
02:19:05,400 --> 02:19:06,240
yeah. 
Big open world. 

2634
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:08,320
They just took everything. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2635
02:19:08,680 --> 02:19:12,360
From Zelda to freaking every 
game out there, they just took 

2636
02:19:12,360 --> 02:19:14,280
bits and pieces. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2637
02:19:16,480 --> 02:19:19,360
I don't know, I don't know, rain
on people's parade there, but. 

2638
02:19:19,400 --> 02:19:21,000
I will rain on people's parade 
there I. 

2639
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:23,160
Think I will be. 
Disappointed I think it will be 

2640
02:19:23,160 --> 02:19:25,639
a good State of Decay game in 
the same as State of Decay 2. 

2641
02:19:25,840 --> 02:19:28,760
I barely play State of Decay 2 
because I'm so disappointed in 

2642
02:19:28,760 --> 02:19:31,920
State of Decay two. 
What it was they gave you the 

2643
02:19:31,920 --> 02:19:34,520
promise of what that was going 
to be with State of Decay one. 

2644
02:19:34,520 --> 02:19:37,240
I remember very clearly and it 
couldn't tell the difference 

2645
02:19:37,240 --> 02:19:39,719
between State of Decay two and 
one other than the multiplayer 

2646
02:19:39,719 --> 02:19:42,320
which is tethered to shit. 
It looked the same and then they

2647
02:19:42,320 --> 02:19:44,600
did the visual upgrade on the 
graphics and then it looks a 

2648
02:19:44,600 --> 02:19:48,080
little bit different and now 
there's it just the whole we're 

2649
02:19:48,080 --> 02:19:49,960
going to give you the play test 
and stuff like that. 

2650
02:19:49,960 --> 02:19:51,880
I feel like it's not going to be
that great. 

2651
02:19:52,080 --> 02:19:55,760
So it's gone down my hype metre 
considerably. 

2652
02:19:55,960 --> 02:19:59,400
And so that being the alpha play
test after six years, it's kind 

2653
02:19:59,400 --> 02:20:01,840
of like what? 
Yeah, Yeah, it's a bit. 

2654
02:20:01,840 --> 02:20:03,280
It's. 
Hard, really I am. 

2655
02:20:03,520 --> 02:20:06,440
I feel I'm going to be let down 
with that, but you know. 

2656
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:08,960
It is what it is. 
I keep saying it is what it is, 

2657
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:12,960
but State of Decay too though 
Captain Chats, I see you say it 

2658
02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:15,960
was a let down for you too. 
I agree. 

2659
02:20:15,960 --> 02:20:18,600
But a lot of people did play it,
though. 

2660
02:20:18,600 --> 02:20:21,200
A lot of people did play State 
of Decay, too. 

2661
02:20:21,560 --> 02:20:24,560
The numbers are out there. 
It was, it was kind of a hit for

2662
02:20:24,560 --> 02:20:25,320
them. 
Yeah. 

2663
02:20:25,360 --> 02:20:28,360
No. 
State of Decay has a very, like 

2664
02:20:28,360 --> 02:20:30,960
loyal fan base as well. 
So you know it's. 

2665
02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:33,560
Not something that, you know, 
easy for them to disregard by 

2666
02:20:33,560 --> 02:20:36,160
making massive change like that.
But at the same time, I think 

2667
02:20:36,160 --> 02:20:38,200
you're like, what's your 
ambition, really? 

2668
02:20:38,600 --> 02:20:40,760
And you put a ceiling on that if
you're going to just stick to 

2669
02:20:40,760 --> 02:20:43,280
State of Decay. 
But I'll tell you one game that 

2670
02:20:43,280 --> 02:20:46,040
has a lot of quality being 
exuded, but there's stuff for 

2671
02:20:46,040 --> 02:20:47,960
everyone but Clockwork 
Revolution. 

2672
02:20:47,960 --> 02:20:49,360
I think this game is going to be
really good. 

2673
02:20:49,600 --> 02:20:52,360
I think this it looks like it's 
going to be a lot of fun, 

2674
02:20:52,360 --> 02:20:55,000
especially with a different 
weaponry and how you can like 

2675
02:20:55,360 --> 02:20:58,640
mix and match. 
You know, craft and all that 

2676
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:00,040
stuff. 
Yeah, we should see on screen. 

2677
02:21:00,040 --> 02:21:01,640
Looks cool. 
It looks really good. 

2678
02:21:01,640 --> 02:21:05,200
It reminds me because it it 
again for me though. 

2679
02:21:05,200 --> 02:21:06,880
It it Harkins. 
Back to like. 

2680
02:21:06,880 --> 02:21:08,960
A Bioshock. 
Type game, every everyone's 

2681
02:21:08,960 --> 02:21:10,920
there and I have a fond memory 
of those games. 

2682
02:21:10,920 --> 02:21:14,240
So yeah, BioShock Infinite kind 
of vibes with this visual. 

2683
02:21:14,400 --> 02:21:17,280
Yeah. 
And I loved Bioshock, and it has

2684
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:19,880
that kind. 
Of personality, He's just really

2685
02:21:19,880 --> 02:21:22,720
good. 
Like he this is a game that if 

2686
02:21:22,720 --> 02:21:26,560
they nailed the gunplay, oh, 
this is if it feels really good 

2687
02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:28,720
to shoot, it's going to be a 
great game. 

2688
02:21:28,840 --> 02:21:31,960
Especially with the time bending
stuff, Yeah, this could be a 

2689
02:21:32,160 --> 02:21:36,280
really, you know, a diamond. 
For Xbox and a really, you know,

2690
02:21:36,280 --> 02:21:39,440
another unique proposition for 
Xbox to have this kind of title 

2691
02:21:39,440 --> 02:21:41,440
out there. 
This is the kind of title that 

2692
02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:45,960
helps Xbox build an identity and
all that's undone if you're 

2693
02:21:45,960 --> 02:21:47,840
making freaking multi platform 
your mother. 

2694
02:21:49,320 --> 02:21:53,400
So yeah, yeah, the Xbox is 
finally where it needs to. 

2695
02:21:53,400 --> 02:21:56,160
Like imagine. 
If this was like a 99. 

2696
02:21:56,280 --> 02:21:58,880
OK, I I know. 
It's a 99. 

2697
02:21:59,320 --> 02:22:01,200
Also coming to PlayStation for 
six months. 

2698
02:22:01,640 --> 02:22:03,720
Yeah, exactly. 
No, all day and day on 

2699
02:22:03,720 --> 02:22:05,480
PlayStation. 
Yeah, it's gonna. 

2700
02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:09,560
I I think this is definitely 
this probably will be a day one 

2701
02:22:09,560 --> 02:22:10,800
on PlayStation. 
Actually, I'm. 

2702
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:12,160
Imagining this will be a day 
one. 

2703
02:22:12,520 --> 02:22:16,520
Title 4 PlayStation yeah, 
because it's coming from a 

2704
02:22:16,520 --> 02:22:19,240
smaller studio in exile, but in 
exile are really punching above 

2705
02:22:19,240 --> 02:22:21,000
their belt based on what we're 
seeing. 

2706
02:22:21,000 --> 02:22:23,400
Obviously we haven't played the 
game, but it looks positive. 

2707
02:22:23,840 --> 02:22:25,480
So clockwork revolution is 
another one. 

2708
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:26,840
State of decay. 
I'm like OK fine. 

2709
02:22:26,840 --> 02:22:31,880
That'll be 2027 release. 
I think 2027 needs an Xbox from 

2710
02:22:31,920 --> 02:22:36,320
a big title From Xbox though, I 
think you need Elder Scrolls and

2711
02:22:36,360 --> 02:22:38,600
and I feel like Elder Scrolls 
are we are we for sure that 

2712
02:22:38,600 --> 02:22:40,840
clockwork is When is clockwork 
20? 

2713
02:22:40,840 --> 02:22:43,440
Early 2027? 
I don't. 

2714
02:22:43,440 --> 02:22:45,120
Know when it has a release? 
I don't think it has a release 

2715
02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:47,040
because I think it's just 2027 
now. 

2716
02:22:47,320 --> 02:22:51,000
Chad, do you guys know? 
When clockwork does clockwork? 

2717
02:22:51,000 --> 02:22:53,280
Revolution have an an indicative
date I don't. 

2718
02:22:53,280 --> 02:22:54,960
Know if it does? 
I don't think it does. 

2719
02:22:54,960 --> 02:22:59,960
I think it was just 2027. 
Yeah, I don't know clockwork in 

2720
02:22:59,960 --> 02:23:01,480
in. 
Exile, you guys are making some 

2721
02:23:01,480 --> 02:23:03,200
memes there and that's the kind 
of quality. 

2722
02:23:03,200 --> 02:23:06,040
Mark, we do. 
Expect but then after that what 

2723
02:23:06,040 --> 02:23:08,200
else is there? 
Like what does Xbox have? 

2724
02:23:09,480 --> 02:23:12,440
What's Compulsion doing? 
Maybe they can make a huge game.

2725
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:17,200
Yeah, fucking right. 
Everyone. 

2726
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:18,960
Everyone hates on those for 
hating on. 

2727
02:23:18,960 --> 02:23:21,440
Compulsion, but I. 
Really think people glaze over. 

2728
02:23:21,440 --> 02:23:23,720
I know the story and this 
premise was really good, but 

2729
02:23:23,720 --> 02:23:24,560
what about? 
The gameplay. 

2730
02:23:24,560 --> 02:23:28,040
After we happy few, you cannot 
forgive them for faltering on 

2731
02:23:28,040 --> 02:23:31,640
gameplay like they did. 
Gameplay cannot be 4th priority.

2732
02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:34,360
Story, music, everything and 
gameplay. 

2733
02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:36,240
Let's think about game design at
the end. 

2734
02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:38,760
I'm like bro this is what 
they're doing. 

2735
02:23:39,640 --> 02:23:42,680
The first game I remember from 
them was when I first bought my 

2736
02:23:42,680 --> 02:23:46,840
PS4 last. 
Gen and it was contrast and it 

2737
02:23:46,840 --> 02:23:49,600
was an awful game. 
It was it was horrible. 

2738
02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:52,200
It was just a stupid game. 
So I didn't even play through 

2739
02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:53,520
it. 
I I tried to play it and I said 

2740
02:23:53,520 --> 02:23:56,840
this is garbage because at the 
time, but if you remember, 

2741
02:23:56,840 --> 02:24:00,360
PlayStation 4 didn't really have
any big games they got they had 

2742
02:24:01,040 --> 02:24:04,960
they were delayed. 
So I had to wait like a month or

2743
02:24:04,960 --> 02:24:08,480
two before I got like my first 
big game PlayStation 4. 

2744
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:12,120
So I after that I just went to 
rezo gun and I played a bunch of

2745
02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:17,680
rezo gun and that was fun. 
But tourney game rezo gun Rezo 

2746
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:20,440
gun was not made by them. 
Rezo gun was made by No Rezo gun

2747
02:24:20,440 --> 02:24:21,760
wasn't by compulsion. 
I'm. 

2748
02:24:21,760 --> 02:24:23,160
Saying I, I. 
Moved to that game. 

2749
02:24:23,160 --> 02:24:25,560
From Contrast. 
Oh, right, Yeah, Rezo. 

2750
02:24:25,560 --> 02:24:29,200
Gun is a game. 
I actually was good a platinum 

2751
02:24:29,200 --> 02:24:32,840
though it was my first platinum.
I really. 

2752
02:24:33,280 --> 02:24:34,600
Really enjoyed that. 
Yeah, that's why I. 

2753
02:24:34,840 --> 02:24:37,520
I love that studio house, Mark. 
Oh, beautiful, man. 

2754
02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:42,320
They are the best, some of the 
best, and Sony did very well by 

2755
02:24:42,320 --> 02:24:45,120
buying them. 
And I'm one of the few people 

2756
02:24:45,120 --> 02:24:47,880
that will probably support that 
game because I don't know if I 

2757
02:24:48,160 --> 02:24:51,000
think it will do well, but 
compulsive games have a lot to 

2758
02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:52,760
answer for. 
But I think I'll tell you what 

2759
02:24:52,760 --> 02:24:54,960
compulsive games are good at and
what South of Midnight was 

2760
02:24:54,960 --> 02:24:57,560
really good at. 
Story, audio, visual palette was

2761
02:24:57,560 --> 02:24:59,560
really nice. 
They really smashed it. 

2762
02:25:00,160 --> 02:25:02,160
I completed the game and I, it 
was the combat. 

2763
02:25:02,480 --> 02:25:05,640
Yeah, I just, I just, I couldn't
get by the combat. 

2764
02:25:05,640 --> 02:25:07,360
Combat. 
The area locks off. 

2765
02:25:07,840 --> 02:25:09,160
And then you have this basic 
combat. 

2766
02:25:09,160 --> 02:25:13,560
And I found it so I felt like I 
wanted to just see what the 

2767
02:25:13,560 --> 02:25:14,960
story was about more than the 
game. 

2768
02:25:14,960 --> 02:25:17,720
Play the game. 
The combat was getting in my 

2769
02:25:17,720 --> 02:25:21,160
way. 
And there were ways like even 

2770
02:25:21,160 --> 02:25:23,560
with traversal, like with the 
war running and stuff like that,

2771
02:25:23,560 --> 02:25:27,480
if you made Ebb and Flow really 
well, I would have really loved 

2772
02:25:27,480 --> 02:25:30,520
the game because it's a 
beautiful game. 

2773
02:25:30,520 --> 02:25:32,760
Yes, it is beautiful. 
The art star was really good. 

2774
02:25:32,760 --> 02:25:34,600
The characters are really well 
voiced. 

2775
02:25:34,800 --> 02:25:35,800
They've. 
Done it, really. 

2776
02:25:36,360 --> 02:25:37,760
I was intrigued. 
I wanted to find. 

2777
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:40,200
Out what's going on with the 
story really tapped into the 

2778
02:25:40,200 --> 02:25:43,840
story, but you can't fuck up the
story, the gameplay, especially 

2779
02:25:43,840 --> 02:25:46,800
when you have such a burden to 
discharge after we're happy for 

2780
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:49,640
you, but it was a beauty like it
was a beautiful experience. 

2781
02:25:49,640 --> 02:25:51,160
The story and stuff. 
I really did care about the 

2782
02:25:51,160 --> 02:25:53,600
characters and and the vibe and 
the music was really good. 

2783
02:25:53,600 --> 02:25:57,200
I just felt like the 
fundamentally it's such a shame.

2784
02:25:57,200 --> 02:25:59,760
It's like you that's the thing 
you need to fix up. 

2785
02:25:59,800 --> 02:26:04,760
And I think in the same regard, 
the same issue with Ninja Theory

2786
02:26:04,880 --> 02:26:08,680
and Hell Blade 2. 
Although with Hell Blade two in 

2787
02:26:08,680 --> 02:26:12,840
one element, the combat I 
thought was fucking amazing. 

2788
02:26:12,840 --> 02:26:17,600
It felt wrong for Xbox for an 
Xbox title to have such good 

2789
02:26:17,600 --> 02:26:20,600
animations in their combat. 
Like if you play their combat, 

2790
02:26:20,600 --> 02:26:23,360
it was beautiful man. 
The combat in that game was 

2791
02:26:23,360 --> 02:26:26,600
stunning, but it was so few far 
between. 

2792
02:26:26,680 --> 02:26:29,360
I was just like, so I was like, 
all right, so the one thing 

2793
02:26:29,440 --> 02:26:31,240
don't make me stab you on that, 
dude. 

2794
02:26:31,240 --> 02:26:34,000
That game was just bad for a 
game. 

2795
02:26:34,000 --> 02:26:38,640
It was beautiful as. 
A piece of art, but man, there 

2796
02:26:38,640 --> 02:26:40,880
was not enough gameplay in that 
game. 

2797
02:26:40,920 --> 02:26:42,760
I agree with you. 
I do agree with you. 

2798
02:26:42,760 --> 02:26:46,480
I think of a hell blade too. 
I was, I was shocked at how and 

2799
02:26:46,480 --> 02:26:48,120
I. 
Said this in my review and I 

2800
02:26:48,120 --> 02:26:53,320
said like you need to thoroughly
revisit how you you you, you 

2801
02:26:53,320 --> 02:26:57,840
basically do gameplay. 
I'm shocked that you still had 

2802
02:26:58,000 --> 02:27:03,240
the same fucking puzzles 
elements like move the camera. 

2803
02:27:03,240 --> 02:27:05,880
Well, they're on Hellblade 3 
now, and supposedly they've 

2804
02:27:05,880 --> 02:27:07,400
stated that they're going to put
more. 

2805
02:27:07,400 --> 02:27:09,960
Action into this. 
Yeah, I I reckon Hellblade 3 is 

2806
02:27:09,960 --> 02:27:11,880
going to be sick. 
You're going to call me? 

2807
02:27:12,120 --> 02:27:14,680
Call me out now if it's not. 
If it doesn't end up being this.

2808
02:27:14,680 --> 02:27:19,760
Way I reckon this game is going 
to be absolutely stunning. 

2809
02:27:19,760 --> 02:27:22,680
Dude. 
They've made great action games 

2810
02:27:22,680 --> 02:27:23,680
in the past. 
They hadn't. 

2811
02:27:24,480 --> 02:27:27,840
They had. 
The the Heavenly Sword, I I 

2812
02:27:27,880 --> 02:27:30,920
loved Heavenly Sword. 
It was like a female God of War 

2813
02:27:30,920 --> 02:27:32,720
game. 
It was really good. 

2814
02:27:32,760 --> 02:27:35,320
Yeah, it was amazing. 
I don't know what that's what 

2815
02:27:35,320 --> 02:27:36,320
I'm saying. 
They had all this talent. 

2816
02:27:36,320 --> 02:27:38,720
They did all that mocap, they 
kept show which is where but. 

2817
02:27:38,720 --> 02:27:43,800
Shows in the yeah, but shows in 
the fucking animations and 

2818
02:27:43,800 --> 02:27:46,520
stuff. 
But yeah, I know they took MMA 

2819
02:27:46,520 --> 02:27:48,560
classes and stuff, and I'm like,
for what? 

2820
02:27:49,400 --> 02:27:50,680
Well, they did a really good 
job. 

2821
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:54,480
Whatever little combat there was
in that game, Hell Blade 2, I I 

2822
02:27:54,480 --> 02:27:55,440
really. 
I didn't. 

2823
02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:57,840
I really enjoyed my time with 
their funds, I'll be honest with

2824
02:27:57,840 --> 02:28:00,600
you, but I, no, I know you did. 
I know you did. 

2825
02:28:00,680 --> 02:28:03,600
I, I played through the whole 
thing and I was just like really

2826
02:28:03,600 --> 02:28:04,880
bored. 
I was like, it's. 

2827
02:28:04,880 --> 02:28:07,200
Beautiful. 
But damn all I'm doing is 

2828
02:28:07,200 --> 02:28:10,840
pressing up to walk 90% of the 
time right at the start of this 

2829
02:28:11,040 --> 02:28:12,760
segment. 
Here you are literally pressing 

2830
02:28:12,760 --> 02:28:15,520
up for a good 5 minutes and I'm 
like oh. 

2831
02:28:15,800 --> 02:28:19,080
What was it like? 
I was, I was, I was entranced by

2832
02:28:19,080 --> 02:28:22,320
the visuals. 
I this is cinema grade visuals, 

2833
02:28:22,320 --> 02:28:25,440
like the the cinematics that the
the techniques that they use. 

2834
02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:30,080
This was, you know, this film 
studios use what if not the best

2835
02:28:30,080 --> 02:28:32,560
looking game I've ever played 
even now. 

2836
02:28:33,080 --> 02:28:36,120
And it is it is one of the best 
looking games period. 

2837
02:28:36,280 --> 02:28:39,520
Yeah, it's incredible. 
It's beautiful, captain. 

2838
02:28:39,520 --> 02:28:42,280
Chat says so, hell blade 2 was 
terrible and they've. 

2839
02:28:42,280 --> 02:28:45,200
Greenlit Hell blade. 
Three, but we get perfect dark 

2840
02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:49,720
cancelled look perfect dark 
wasn't even a thing though they 

2841
02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:53,040
they made-up that little portion
that little slice that we saw 

2842
02:28:53,600 --> 02:28:59,040
that was all made-up that wasn't
gameplay they didn't have a game

2843
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:01,960
that's the fucking most 
egregious thing ever though a a 

2844
02:29:02,320 --> 02:29:03,560
lot of. 
That was all bullshit. 

2845
02:29:04,360 --> 02:29:08,840
Quadruple. 
Studio Quadruple a studio. 

2846
02:29:09,280 --> 02:29:12,480
And they, they made nothing, 
they made nothing, they made 

2847
02:29:12,480 --> 02:29:15,760
nothing. 
And then they just fucking. 

2848
02:29:16,480 --> 02:29:18,320
Got. 
Abolished like it was just. 

2849
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:21,760
Dude, the story. 
Of that, just they need to make 

2850
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:24,880
a documentary on that. 
Just there's a story. 

2851
02:29:24,880 --> 02:29:29,240
What happened to what were they 
called in Not in Exile, The 

2852
02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:30,960
initiative? 
What were they called? 

2853
02:29:31,240 --> 02:29:37,360
The initiative I want to see 
from inception to fucking how it

2854
02:29:37,360 --> 02:29:39,960
was destroyed. 
And part of that. 

2855
02:29:39,960 --> 02:29:43,320
You can kind of see along the 
way, remember, they had all 

2856
02:29:43,320 --> 02:29:45,920
these, like, really big, 
talented people that they took 

2857
02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:49,440
from other studios, and they 
were calling themselves a small 

2858
02:29:49,440 --> 02:29:52,280
and agile studio, which is a 
great thing, right? 

2859
02:29:52,760 --> 02:29:56,320
But then you had this guy bring 
in everybody from Crystal 

2860
02:29:56,320 --> 02:29:59,520
Dynamics to come out. 
And then that's when you saw the

2861
02:29:59,520 --> 02:30:01,800
shit hit the fan. 
You were like, wait a minute, 

2862
02:30:01,800 --> 02:30:04,240
they're not a small and agile 
team anymore. 

2863
02:30:04,240 --> 02:30:05,440
Yeah. 
And what's going on here? 

2864
02:30:05,440 --> 02:30:07,240
Everyone's like, they're an 
incubation studio. 

2865
02:30:07,240 --> 02:30:09,240
They're going to be building, 
say, here a little bit here and 

2866
02:30:09,240 --> 02:30:11,400
there, and then Crystal Dynamics
going to come in and help. 

2867
02:30:11,600 --> 02:30:15,360
There was a pitch to actually 
save the the and buy out the IP 

2868
02:30:15,360 --> 02:30:18,600
and then Microsoft said no, Oh 
no, it's not interested. 

2869
02:30:18,680 --> 02:30:22,120
So it's just, I would really 
like to see the story on that 

2870
02:30:22,120 --> 02:30:22,680
though. 
What? 

2871
02:30:22,760 --> 02:30:24,760
What really happened bro? 
I'll tell you what the story 

2872
02:30:24,760 --> 02:30:25,960
that I was talking to a 
developer. 

2873
02:30:25,960 --> 02:30:29,680
When I was at GDC about who 
worked at the cancelled. 

2874
02:30:29,920 --> 02:30:32,880
Bethesda online game that they 
were working on, the Cyberpunk 

2875
02:30:33,120 --> 02:30:35,600
fucking third person game that 
apparently was amazing. 

2876
02:30:35,600 --> 02:30:39,000
Zenermax online game, sorry. 
And it was, what was it called? 

2877
02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:41,800
I forgot the name of it and the 
guy was telling me the stories 

2878
02:30:41,800 --> 02:30:45,000
about how good the game was and 
how developers were like they 

2879
02:30:45,000 --> 02:30:48,240
had some teething issues but 
Phil Spencer had to be pulled 

2880
02:30:48,240 --> 02:30:51,160
away. 
He was enjoying it so much and 

2881
02:30:51,160 --> 02:30:52,960
then they freaking cancelled it 
and they couldn't believe it. 

2882
02:30:53,080 --> 02:30:56,800
And it was all because of AI, 
the Xbox, I'm sorry, Microsoft 

2883
02:30:57,040 --> 02:31:00,360
pursuing AI and copilot. 
They they pulled the rug and 

2884
02:31:00,360 --> 02:31:03,120
then they're the, the, the. 
The amount of bad blood that 

2885
02:31:03,120 --> 02:31:06,240
generated is insane to this day.
Matthew Ward. 

2886
02:31:06,320 --> 02:31:09,000
Matthew Ward, thank you so much 
for the $5 super checkers Fonz 

2887
02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:10,880
in the house. 
Got to catch up on the pod when 

2888
02:31:10,880 --> 02:31:12,880
I get home. 
Gaz is my goat. 

2889
02:31:12,880 --> 02:31:15,080
This is becomes legendary with 
Fonz. 

2890
02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:18,520
Much loved brother Matthew. 
Matthew, I'd love to appreciate 

2891
02:31:18,600 --> 02:31:19,040
you. 
Matthew. 

2892
02:31:19,040 --> 02:31:20,120
I appreciate that. 
Such nice words. 

2893
02:31:20,400 --> 02:31:22,840
I found that when a lot of 
people say of my podcast, they 

2894
02:31:22,840 --> 02:31:24,280
actually prefer to listen to it 
after. 

2895
02:31:24,280 --> 02:31:27,680
The fact I think it's. 
Because I meander so much of or 

2896
02:31:28,000 --> 02:31:31,120
my ADHD so crazy, when the time 
stamps are up they probably list

2897
02:31:31,120 --> 02:31:33,200
a whole new of the specific 
topics that they want to listen 

2898
02:31:33,200 --> 02:31:35,360
to. 
But, Matthew, thank you so much.

2899
02:31:35,440 --> 02:31:37,280
It's really nice. 
Really nice for you. 

2900
02:31:38,440 --> 02:31:41,000
Yeah. 
So, you know, you know, this is 

2901
02:31:41,000 --> 02:31:43,800
what I'm saying. 
Look, hey, Xbox, it's a it's 

2902
02:31:43,800 --> 02:31:45,800
it's a tale of two fucking 
tales. 

2903
02:31:45,800 --> 02:31:48,920
There's so much scope, so much 
excitement for it and so much 

2904
02:31:49,080 --> 02:31:51,560
like in it's landscape. 
We've talked about so many 

2905
02:31:51,560 --> 02:31:55,400
things I could show off and this
year and in 2027 and what the 

2906
02:31:55,400 --> 02:31:58,440
going on with the it's, it's the
most exciting player in the 

2907
02:31:58,440 --> 02:32:00,560
space. 
But it's, oh, you know what 

2908
02:32:00,560 --> 02:32:03,280
other game you forgot about? 
I just, it just hit my mind and 

2909
02:32:03,280 --> 02:32:06,200
I had to cut you off because I'm
50 and I will forget. 

2910
02:32:06,800 --> 02:32:09,280
Blade What's going on with 
Blade? 

2911
02:32:09,280 --> 02:32:11,440
Like I want to see, I want to 
see more Blade. 

2912
02:32:11,440 --> 02:32:14,080
No, no, right bro. 
Apparently it's coming out 

2913
02:32:14,080 --> 02:32:17,400
really well. 
That's what I'm hearing. 

2914
02:32:17,400 --> 02:32:19,160
I. 
Obviously that will be the judge

2915
02:32:19,160 --> 02:32:21,960
of that, but Blade is another 
fucking sick one, actually a 

2916
02:32:21,960 --> 02:32:24,400
complete because that will be my
most anticipated when I've all 

2917
02:32:24,400 --> 02:32:26,200
those games. 
Actually, it'll be my number one

2918
02:32:26,200 --> 02:32:29,120
out of all of them. 
If they do, I know that we've 

2919
02:32:29,120 --> 02:32:33,480
what we've seen is in that kind 
of comic book art style, not. 

2920
02:32:33,480 --> 02:32:38,760
Necessarily a realistic look, 
which I would prefer. 

2921
02:32:38,760 --> 02:32:41,640
A real look I would. 
I would prefer that for a blade 

2922
02:32:41,640 --> 02:32:44,400
title, but. 
Because this this is still. 

2923
02:32:44,400 --> 02:32:48,280
Mature, it could still be a good
game and I just want to. 

2924
02:32:48,280 --> 02:32:49,520
See more of. 
It can. 

2925
02:32:49,520 --> 02:32:51,640
Leon bounces as well. 
I love arcade. 

2926
02:32:51,640 --> 02:32:55,200
Leon I love, I love arcade Leon 
putting a stand on the whole. 

2927
02:32:55,200 --> 02:32:57,160
Microsoft and what they were 
doing politically. 

2928
02:32:57,160 --> 02:32:59,840
So I was like rape them. 
They were out there protesting. 

2929
02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:03,880
I was like you bounces. 
But also, yeah, I do agree with 

2930
02:33:03,880 --> 02:33:05,680
you though. 
Like is it going to be just like

2931
02:33:05,680 --> 02:33:08,520
weird comic book site? 
I want to look, I think Blade, I

2932
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:10,240
think Wesley Snipes, I think 
Viners. 

2933
02:33:10,520 --> 02:33:15,040
It could be a situation where 
you get like a great looking 

2934
02:33:15,720 --> 02:33:18,160
South of. 
Midnight style look not 

2935
02:33:18,240 --> 02:33:20,400
necessarily South of midnight, 
but you know what I'm saying? 

2936
02:33:20,400 --> 02:33:23,600
Like a great art style but with 
really good combat. 

2937
02:33:25,480 --> 02:33:29,320
You might hit that here. 
Like the if they nail the combat

2938
02:33:29,320 --> 02:33:31,760
I could. 
Care less, you cannot fuck up 

2939
02:33:31,760 --> 02:33:33,360
blade. 
You cannot fuck up Blade. 

2940
02:33:33,360 --> 02:33:35,320
You cannot take on an IP like 
this and fuck it up. 

2941
02:33:35,440 --> 02:33:36,920
I'm sorry. 
Yeah, people. 

2942
02:33:37,280 --> 02:33:39,360
And it's a Marvel licence thing 
and Xbox has it. 

2943
02:33:39,640 --> 02:33:41,840
Like you can't fuck it up. 
Blade is bro. 

2944
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:45,920
The very first Blade movie is 
one of my favourite Marvel 

2945
02:33:45,920 --> 02:33:47,640
flicks. 
I love Wesley State. 

2946
02:33:47,800 --> 02:33:49,800
For me blade 2 was better. 
I love blade. 

2947
02:33:49,840 --> 02:33:53,040
Oh no I like blade one. 
Blade 1 was so fun. 

2948
02:33:53,200 --> 02:33:55,240
I like them both, but blade 1 
was. 

2949
02:33:55,600 --> 02:33:57,720
Superior in my opinion. 
I loved it. 

2950
02:33:58,480 --> 02:34:01,680
Dude, that first scene in the 
club with the raining blood and 

2951
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:02,800
everything. 
Oh so good. 

2952
02:34:03,440 --> 02:34:05,160
Was that blade one? 
I thought it was blade two. 

2953
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:08,280
Yeah, no, that was Blade 1. 
It might be confusing. 

2954
02:34:08,280 --> 02:34:10,800
I'm not confusing. 
Yeah, you might be confused by 

2955
02:34:10,800 --> 02:34:12,480
it. 
Actually, but blade, blade, 

2956
02:34:13,240 --> 02:34:14,520
blade. 
Two had a club scene. 

2957
02:34:14,520 --> 02:34:16,560
Blade 2. 
Had Ethan Hawke I believe I'm. 

2958
02:34:18,800 --> 02:34:20,520
Forgetting you know the worst 
thing is. 

2959
02:34:20,520 --> 02:34:24,160
About Blade Blade Trinity is in 
my head. 

2960
02:34:24,480 --> 02:34:28,240
Because that fucking movie was I
actually kind of enjoyed it, but

2961
02:34:28,240 --> 02:34:32,520
it was so bad, like the 
Duracell, the the the throwing 

2962
02:34:32,520 --> 02:34:35,600
in there made it so comic book 
with the the guy who is now 

2963
02:34:35,600 --> 02:34:40,640
Deadpool. 
Oh, it's so bad, but I just want

2964
02:34:40,640 --> 02:34:45,600
to blade. 
Oh, let's see what I have Blade 

2965
02:34:45,600 --> 02:34:47,120
one and two. 
Yes and no. 

2966
02:34:48,240 --> 02:34:51,040
That's the fucking. 
Shit pole I want to just end. 

2967
02:34:51,040 --> 02:34:57,440
It Yeah blade one or two yes 
yeah, blade one or two which 

2968
02:34:57,560 --> 02:34:59,760
which. 1. 
Blade one or. 

2969
02:34:59,840 --> 02:35:00,680
Two Yes. 
No. 

2970
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:04,520
No, but blade 1 was. 
The one where? 

2971
02:35:05,000 --> 02:35:06,720
He went to the club. 
And. 

2972
02:35:07,080 --> 02:35:10,040
All that blood started raining. 
Down on everybody as they were 

2973
02:35:10,040 --> 02:35:11,440
dancing. 
Am I losing one? 

2974
02:35:11,440 --> 02:35:13,800
That was Blade one. 
That was Blade One, Dude. 

2975
02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:16,680
That was the beginning of the 
movie. 

2976
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:20,680
No, no, no. 
Yeah, I think yeah, yeah, yeah. 

2977
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:22,960
That was Blade one because I 
remember. 

2978
02:35:23,000 --> 02:35:26,280
I remember watching that movie. 
Multiple times like it was so 

2979
02:35:26,280 --> 02:35:27,440
good. 
Did you watch it again? 

2980
02:35:27,960 --> 02:35:30,360
Blade 2 say Wolfy Snipes. 
Fucking awesome. 

2981
02:35:30,640 --> 02:35:32,800
Yeah, he was. 
He was born to play. 

2982
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:34,600
That role he was so no one can 
play. 

2983
02:35:34,600 --> 02:35:36,680
That role, dude, no one can play
that role but him. 

2984
02:35:37,600 --> 02:35:39,600
He he, he was a boss. 
He was an. 

2985
02:35:39,600 --> 02:35:41,320
Absolute. 
Boss, did you watch? 

2986
02:35:41,320 --> 02:35:43,880
The Wolverine movie where he 
made the cameo and everything. 

2987
02:35:45,360 --> 02:35:48,800
Oh, I've got I've. 
Got free memberships gift by the

2988
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:51,160
way you say you didn't? 
Think that you could do this? 

2989
02:35:51,160 --> 02:35:52,800
Look, I've never I've never seen
that. 

2990
02:35:52,840 --> 02:35:54,720
Yeah, I've got to look at that. 
Giving it. 

2991
02:35:55,000 --> 02:35:57,240
Let me give away rats. 
Fuzzy tomato. 

2992
02:35:57,240 --> 02:36:01,640
BT maverick otaku Doctor Scott. 
C and Cohen prime. 

2993
02:36:02,000 --> 02:36:05,040
Yeah, guys are now members. 
Well done soccer gaming. 

2994
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:06,840
This fool won't be on. 
I don't have a three man overlay

2995
02:36:06,920 --> 02:36:09,960
piece of it's got Dennis, but 
yeah. 

2996
02:36:10,200 --> 02:36:12,080
You're talking about Blade? 
Oh, you must have heard the 

2997
02:36:12,080 --> 02:36:15,480
comic book chat. 
It was the player. 

2998
02:36:15,480 --> 02:36:20,040
Comic book chat came in and 
like, oh, yeah, yeah, Blade, I 

2999
02:36:20,040 --> 02:36:23,080
read the comics. 
I, I, I freaking yeah. 

3000
02:36:23,720 --> 02:36:26,040
I know everything. 
About him, I know he has a 12. 

3001
02:36:26,040 --> 02:36:29,520
Inch schlong. 
Wait a minute. 

3002
02:36:29,520 --> 02:36:32,880
What? 
What's right this beta side? 

3003
02:36:33,800 --> 02:36:37,240
That's, you know, Zach knows 
everything about Marvel and. 

3004
02:36:37,240 --> 02:36:44,760
Coke. 
Let's see, I. 

3005
02:36:44,800 --> 02:36:46,200
Think we've covered everything, 
man? 

3006
02:36:46,320 --> 02:36:48,080
What else am I missing in this 
gaming space? 

3007
02:36:48,400 --> 02:36:50,280
What's happened? 
I don't know, man. 

3008
02:36:50,280 --> 02:36:53,040
It's it's it's been bro. 
I'm so glad I. 

3009
02:36:53,080 --> 02:36:54,720
Wish I. 
Wish we could sit here and talk 

3010
02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:56,880
about other stuff. 
Besides gaming, but you. 

3011
02:36:56,880 --> 02:36:58,760
Know. 
Yeah, we cancel. 

3012
02:36:58,760 --> 02:37:01,360
We. 
Get rested in two seconds, bro. 

3013
02:37:01,560 --> 02:37:04,400
Jesus, man, but that podcast. 
Would be so much. 

3014
02:37:04,400 --> 02:37:05,720
Fun man. 
Oh bro. 

3015
02:37:05,720 --> 02:37:07,200
I you know. 
What if God? 

3016
02:37:07,480 --> 02:37:11,360
Damn if you could actually have 
free speech here on YouTube and.

3017
02:37:11,360 --> 02:37:15,720
UK as well the UK. 
You get arrested, but oh shit, 

3018
02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:18,400
you will get arrested out there.
Yeah, I'll give it that too. 

3019
02:37:18,440 --> 02:37:19,080
I. 
Might get an. 

3020
02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:21,160
E-mail or two or some guys 
knocking at the. 

3021
02:37:21,160 --> 02:37:21,800
Door. 
Who knows? 

3022
02:37:22,320 --> 02:37:23,680
Yeah. 
Oh, I'd love to do it. 

3023
02:37:24,600 --> 02:37:26,040
Oh, just another news very 
quickly. 

3024
02:37:26,400 --> 02:37:29,680
It was really good to see Space 
Marines. 2 has been, has got. 

3025
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:31,640
12. 
Million players. 

3026
02:37:32,200 --> 02:37:34,960
I haven't even played the the 
Space Marine. 

3027
02:37:34,960 --> 02:37:36,400
Well, you know what happened. 
Space Marine. 

3028
02:37:36,400 --> 02:37:38,000
You tell me you have not played 
this. 

3029
02:37:38,200 --> 02:37:41,480
I played that Yeah, that was 
years ago. 

3030
02:37:41,480 --> 02:37:42,640
No, no bro, it came out last 
year. 

3031
02:37:42,640 --> 02:37:45,440
But what are you talking about? 
It was like 2 years. 

3032
02:37:45,440 --> 02:37:46,280
Ago. 
Was it 2 years ago? 

3033
02:37:46,280 --> 02:37:47,640
Three years ago? 
That's not 2. 

3034
02:37:47,720 --> 02:37:49,520
Years ago, like it seems like 
it's. 

3035
02:37:49,680 --> 02:37:51,920
It's been a while. 
Dude I've played so many games 

3036
02:37:51,920 --> 02:37:53,760
since time doesn't make sense 
anymore. 

3037
02:37:53,760 --> 02:37:55,160
I did a review on this channel. 
When did I do that? 

3038
02:37:55,160 --> 02:37:58,040
How long ago? 
Chat was Space Marines 2, Space 

3039
02:37:58,080 --> 02:38:02,080
Marines 2. 
Was beautiful game and it's OK 

3040
02:38:02,080 --> 02:38:04,520
it was on its own proprietary 
engine like I always say. 

3041
02:38:04,520 --> 02:38:08,560
It came out in 2024 bro 324-O 
right time fucking. 

3042
02:38:08,560 --> 02:38:10,640
Hell, man. 
Yeah, dude, like. 

3043
02:38:10,640 --> 02:38:12,680
I played that a couple of years 
back it seems. 

3044
02:38:12,680 --> 02:38:15,400
Like it's been a while, yeah. 
And I. 

3045
02:38:15,480 --> 02:38:18,120
Haven't done the Co-op mode as 
well which has its own missions 

3046
02:38:18,120 --> 02:38:19,640
in the story so I'm going to get
on PC. 

3047
02:38:19,640 --> 02:38:23,120
Never did that. 
Yeah, I thought it was a good 

3048
02:38:23,120 --> 02:38:25,120
game. 
I had fun with it, but. 

3049
02:38:26,000 --> 02:38:26,920
By the end of. 
It I was. 

3050
02:38:26,920 --> 02:38:31,560
Ready to be done because of the 
I'm not big on like horde modes,

3051
02:38:31,960 --> 02:38:34,200
like just waves of enemies 
coming at you. 

3052
02:38:35,400 --> 02:38:38,760
I'm typically not actually 
typically not into that, but I'm

3053
02:38:38,760 --> 02:38:41,600
telling you, I love my first 
foray into. 

3054
02:38:41,760 --> 02:38:44,960
Do the Space Marines and I just 
loved it. 

3055
02:38:44,960 --> 02:38:48,640
It's just like, ohh, this is 
this is when gaming was good. 

3056
02:38:48,640 --> 02:38:51,840
This these guys are fucking 
badass yet little babies with 

3057
02:38:51,840 --> 02:38:53,880
skulls flying around. 
And then you find out the 

3058
02:38:53,880 --> 02:38:57,000
stories are raw because they 
just literally churn these kids.

3059
02:38:57,760 --> 02:39:01,240
Human beings want to be turned 
into switches, like live 

3060
02:39:01,240 --> 02:39:04,480
switches. 
It's just a deep Dark World. 

3061
02:39:04,480 --> 02:39:07,080
And I want to do the coop. 
I really want to do the coop, 

3062
02:39:08,160 --> 02:39:09,960
but yeah, that that's sold 12 
million. 

3063
02:39:09,960 --> 02:39:13,120
And Space Marine 3 is already, 
since it was such a breakout, 

3064
02:39:13,120 --> 02:39:14,760
success. 
It's already in development. 

3065
02:39:14,960 --> 02:39:17,160
So there's that. 
Space Marines 2 was a dank mean.

3066
02:39:17,360 --> 02:39:19,800
Oh, yeah. 
Assassin's Creed Insider Gaming 

3067
02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:23,760
keeps talking about the resync, 
the Black Flag. 

3068
02:39:23,760 --> 02:39:25,920
Yeah. 
I'll tell you one thing, you 

3069
02:39:25,920 --> 02:39:29,080
know, you know I I have no 
funders for Assassin's Creed. 

3070
02:39:29,680 --> 02:39:32,560
But I. 
Know you don't but Black Flag 

3071
02:39:32,720 --> 02:39:36,280
the last the when I played Black
Flag 10 times fast bro I'm not 

3072
02:39:37,560 --> 02:39:38,600
doing that. 
Black Flag. 

3073
02:39:38,840 --> 02:39:41,080
Black Flag flag. 
Flag. 

3074
02:39:41,840 --> 02:39:43,360
You know you're going to get me 
fucking. 

3075
02:39:43,360 --> 02:39:45,760
Cancer, bro. 
There's no way I'm saying that. 

3076
02:39:45,760 --> 02:39:48,400
Black Flag too. 
Fast but successively. 

3077
02:39:50,280 --> 02:39:54,200
You're already doing it now 
Black Flag resync is coming out 

3078
02:39:55,560 --> 02:39:57,840
and so it might be a game. 
I would actually. 

3079
02:39:57,840 --> 02:39:59,600
Like like to play? 
Because I remember playing that 

3080
02:40:00,120 --> 02:40:03,880
and I thought, do you like ship 
battles in games and and riding 

3081
02:40:03,880 --> 02:40:05,440
on ships? 
Yeah, I don't. 

3082
02:40:05,720 --> 02:40:06,560
I don't. 
That's why you. 

3083
02:40:06,600 --> 02:40:08,080
Like that flag? 
I liked it. 

3084
02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:10,880
I liked it a lot, but it wasn't 
just the ship battles, it was 

3085
02:40:10,880 --> 02:40:13,720
the whole the pirate kind of 
vibe was really good. 

3086
02:40:13,720 --> 02:40:16,200
I was like really enjoying the 
the little pier though. 

3087
02:40:16,640 --> 02:40:19,360
It made me feel more like a 
pirate than freaking see if 

3088
02:40:19,360 --> 02:40:21,520
thieves did. 
And I really thought I thought 

3089
02:40:21,520 --> 02:40:26,280
that was a that was the, the, 
the pinnacle of AC honestly, 

3090
02:40:26,360 --> 02:40:29,200
especially with the RPG ones is 
definitely. 

3091
02:40:29,200 --> 02:40:32,400
Odyssey. 
Odyssey was so good, so fucking 

3092
02:40:32,400 --> 02:40:36,800
good Yeah, yeah, I tried that, 
but I I really Origins was great

3093
02:40:36,800 --> 02:40:38,720
too. 
I loved Origins until the very. 

3094
02:40:38,720 --> 02:40:41,880
End when they forced you to play
somebody else. 

3095
02:40:42,440 --> 02:40:47,760
I because Bayek is honestly the 
the best protagonist in any AC 

3096
02:40:47,760 --> 02:40:50,040
game, hands down. 
Bayek is. 

3097
02:40:50,080 --> 02:40:52,120
I've heard that before. 
He's awesome. 

3098
02:40:52,800 --> 02:40:56,840
That is awesome, but. 
Soccer game, he says. 

3099
02:40:56,840 --> 02:40:58,240
You never. 
Played Sea of Thieves. 

3100
02:40:58,880 --> 02:41:03,120
Liar. 
Yeah, because that's that's the 

3101
02:41:03,120 --> 02:41:07,800
pinnacle of ship battles. 
Remember for for soccer, Zorka, 

3102
02:41:07,880 --> 02:41:10,800
you top like Sea of Thieves. 
It probably is though, to be 

3103
02:41:10,800 --> 02:41:14,680
honest, for just. 
Ship battles online. 

3104
02:41:15,000 --> 02:41:17,840
It probably is the best. 
I mean, it's quite simple. 

3105
02:41:17,840 --> 02:41:21,200
It's not exactly like very deep.
I I would say the the. 

3106
02:41:21,400 --> 02:41:23,280
Combat. 
But it's fun. 

3107
02:41:23,280 --> 02:41:26,320
Neither is any pirate game, 
because basically you're just 

3108
02:41:26,320 --> 02:41:28,400
shooting cannonballs at each 
other, you know? 

3109
02:41:28,400 --> 02:41:30,400
So it's true. 
And you don't have any that 

3110
02:41:30,400 --> 02:41:32,920
visual marker as well, you 
haven't got like a, you know, 

3111
02:41:32,920 --> 02:41:34,840
when you're aiming your cannon, 
you're manually. 

3112
02:41:34,840 --> 02:41:37,640
Aiming it and just judging where
it goes and you're obviously the

3113
02:41:37,640 --> 02:41:40,720
the cannon has a trailer that 
helps you guide it after the 

3114
02:41:40,720 --> 02:41:42,920
fact. 
I was watching my brother play 

3115
02:41:42,920 --> 02:41:44,960
the other day and I feel like a 
lot, it was a lot of fun. 

3116
02:41:45,040 --> 02:41:48,840
The Sea of Thieves is we make 
fun of Zorka a lot about playing

3117
02:41:48,840 --> 02:41:51,520
Sea of thieves a lot because 
Zorka is the kind of person who 

3118
02:41:51,560 --> 02:41:54,520
makes fun of Zelda like you 
because he is barefooted and he 

3119
02:41:54,520 --> 02:41:57,240
runs around because he hit. 
But Sea of Thieves has that kind

3120
02:41:57,240 --> 02:41:59,840
of like visual a stick as well. 
But Zorka plays that a lot. 

3121
02:42:00,080 --> 02:42:01,800
But see if this is actually a 
really fun game. 

3122
02:42:01,800 --> 02:42:05,400
It's it's one of those games I 
regret I didn't have a core 

3123
02:42:05,400 --> 02:42:06,920
group of friends to play with 
like me. 

3124
02:42:06,920 --> 02:42:09,080
You and Zorka played. 
That would be hilarious. 

3125
02:42:09,200 --> 02:42:11,440
But I know Zorka is a fucking 
sweaty try hard. 

3126
02:42:11,440 --> 02:42:14,440
So you'd be crying like a piece 
of shit the whole time, taking 

3127
02:42:14,440 --> 02:42:17,000
it seriously when a game looks 
like fucking something from 

3128
02:42:17,000 --> 02:42:19,160
Pixar Shout outs. 
Don't be going out there in a 

3129
02:42:19,160 --> 02:42:22,680
schooner around soccer gaming. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

3130
02:42:22,720 --> 02:42:23,920
He's a little bit of a try hard.
Oh. 

3131
02:42:24,040 --> 02:42:26,400
My God as you need to put the 
mask up. 

3132
02:42:26,600 --> 02:42:28,160
Oh my God. 
Enemies about 5. 

3133
02:42:28,160 --> 02:42:31,600
O'clock and get the freaking 
repair the shit, throw the water

3134
02:42:31,600 --> 02:42:33,640
away and it's like it's one of 
those games we just want to 

3135
02:42:33,640 --> 02:42:35,360
chill and have a good time and 
just care. 

3136
02:42:35,640 --> 02:42:37,120
I reckon we should actually do 
that. 

3137
02:42:37,120 --> 02:42:37,960
I want. 
To do more. 

3138
02:42:37,960 --> 02:42:40,240
Gaming content we sit down and 
play games together but 

3139
02:42:41,200 --> 02:42:46,360
unfortunately time zones and 
like real life is a problem yeah

3140
02:42:46,360 --> 02:42:50,600
but AC Black Flag is coming out 
resynced it might be 1 it's a 

3141
02:42:50,600 --> 02:42:52,040
genuinely. 
One of the AC games. 

3142
02:42:52,040 --> 02:42:54,840
That I I would actually be 
interested in in seeing. 

3143
02:42:55,200 --> 02:42:57,520
Other than that, I think we've 
covered everything. 

3144
02:42:57,720 --> 02:42:59,440
I think we've covered good news.
It was good. 

3145
02:42:59,440 --> 02:43:00,920
We've had a great show. 
Oh yeah. 

3146
02:43:01,360 --> 02:43:04,360
Another thing I was going to 
say, Pub G almost hit nearly 

3147
02:43:04,360 --> 02:43:07,000
1,000,000 players on Steam 
concurrent. 

3148
02:43:07,760 --> 02:43:11,160
Pub G Pub G man like what the 
Frick is going on. 

3149
02:43:11,640 --> 02:43:13,520
I loved Pub G when it came out I
I. 

3150
02:43:13,520 --> 02:43:17,240
Need an excuse? 
To jump back in, Wow, did you 

3151
02:43:17,240 --> 02:43:17,920
play pub G? 
When? 

3152
02:43:17,920 --> 02:43:20,600
When did pub G? 
Yeah, I've played it, but when 

3153
02:43:20,600 --> 02:43:23,520
did that become popular again? 
Bro let me check has it. 

3154
02:43:23,560 --> 02:43:27,440
Always been people, but I said 
what the fuck was this? 

3155
02:43:27,640 --> 02:43:29,400
People were like, yeah. 
It's always been. 

3156
02:43:29,400 --> 02:43:31,040
Like it's it's. 
People don't realise it's 

3157
02:43:31,040 --> 02:43:33,360
actually pretty really popular. 
I'm looking look at the team 

3158
02:43:33,360 --> 02:43:36,080
players now. 
Pub G is number 5. 

3159
02:43:36,080 --> 02:43:41,960
It's got 148, 1000 concurrent 
now it's yeah that's crazy. 

3160
02:43:43,400 --> 02:43:44,840
What the fuck is Windrose? 
I don't. 

3161
02:43:44,840 --> 02:43:46,200
Even know what that is? 
Five M. 

3162
02:43:46,200 --> 02:43:47,160
I've never heard of that. 
What the? 

3163
02:43:47,160 --> 02:43:50,400
Fuck is this shit? 
It's probably an adult game 

3164
02:43:50,400 --> 02:43:51,920
guys. 
They have a lot of those on 

3165
02:43:51,920 --> 02:43:53,360
Steam. 
Watch out for those. 

3166
02:43:53,560 --> 02:43:54,760
Are they even games? 
Are they? 

3167
02:43:54,800 --> 02:43:56,760
Creepy. 
I don't know. 

3168
02:43:56,880 --> 02:43:59,040
Look at this game called 
Windrose we're talking about. 

3169
02:43:59,560 --> 02:44:02,360
Pirates and stuff. 
Windrose looks like a freaking. 

3170
02:44:03,440 --> 02:44:05,760
Windows let me just quickly 
check this it looks like a 

3171
02:44:05,760 --> 02:44:08,960
pirate game and it's number 
freaking three what the Hell's 

3172
02:44:08,960 --> 02:44:13,840
windows windows trailer This is 
the thing with PC man we just 

3173
02:44:14,280 --> 02:44:17,920
there's so many freaking good 
windows official trailer early 

3174
02:44:17,920 --> 02:44:22,200
access trailer 4 days ago this 
isn't smashing it on the charts 

3175
02:44:22,320 --> 02:44:26,560
we might be sleeping on 
greatness. 

3176
02:44:26,560 --> 02:44:29,480
We talk about pirate games here 
we go look at this it's on 

3177
02:44:29,480 --> 02:44:33,840
stream right now and it's 
definitely a pirate game and 

3178
02:44:33,840 --> 02:44:37,480
there's number 45 whatever it 
was on on on steam charts looks 

3179
02:44:37,800 --> 02:44:44,920
really good in engine must be UE
5 because, but let's see if the 

3180
02:44:44,920 --> 02:44:48,320
game looks and it must be UE5 
Dick. 

3181
02:44:49,360 --> 02:44:51,360
That person is right. 
Looks really good. 

3182
02:44:51,360 --> 02:44:53,280
It looks. 
Like it was a multiplayer. 

3183
02:44:54,120 --> 02:44:55,720
This looks. 
Like something we should try? 

3184
02:44:56,000 --> 02:44:58,040
I need to start. 
Playing these games and just 

3185
02:44:58,040 --> 02:45:01,800
trying them out and you, you 
need to just start playing games

3186
02:45:02,320 --> 02:45:04,920
period. 
Bro give me time to. 

3187
02:45:05,400 --> 02:45:08,160
Sit down and and play your games
that you. 

3188
02:45:08,160 --> 02:45:10,080
Do have bro? 
I have so many. 

3189
02:45:10,320 --> 02:45:11,760
This looks amazing. 
Look at this. 

3190
02:45:12,240 --> 02:45:15,080
Did you ever beat Secoro you 
started it on? 

3191
02:45:15,080 --> 02:45:17,280
Stream. 
Yeah, complete it on stream. 

3192
02:45:17,640 --> 02:45:19,200
OK, good. 
Good, good, right? 

3193
02:45:19,400 --> 02:45:21,880
Because I was going to say, 
dude, it's amazing. 

3194
02:45:21,920 --> 02:45:24,160
Samir Secoro Secoro was. 
Really good. 

3195
02:45:24,440 --> 02:45:26,880
I haven't completed Eldon Ring 
though and I. 

3196
02:45:26,880 --> 02:45:29,720
Need to play that what I'm. 
I'm I'll do on Twitch. 

3197
02:45:29,720 --> 02:45:32,960
I'll do it on Twitch. 
I beat Eldon Ring on Series X, 

3198
02:45:32,960 --> 02:45:36,120
though I didn't beat it on PC. 
I would have loved to play it on

3199
02:45:36,120 --> 02:45:38,120
PC instead. 
Yeah, I'm going to play again. 

3200
02:45:38,120 --> 02:45:40,440
This is my third time starting 
fucking Eldering. 

3201
02:45:40,760 --> 02:45:43,320
But you're going to restart it? 
Wow. 

3202
02:45:43,680 --> 02:45:45,800
I have to because no saves, no 
saves transfer. 

3203
02:45:45,800 --> 02:45:48,920
I'm not gonna play on my Xbox. 
I'm APC man, I'm PC, must race 

3204
02:45:48,920 --> 02:45:52,480
now and. 
I want to stream it so windows 

3205
02:45:52,640 --> 02:45:54,240
early access. 
Check it out. 

3206
02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:57,040
It'll actually looks really good
and it's dominating the Steam 

3207
02:45:57,040 --> 02:46:00,000
charts. 
What the flip is this single 

3208
02:46:00,000 --> 02:46:01,240
player game? 
I don't even know what it is. 

3209
02:46:01,360 --> 02:46:03,720
It's a PVE survival game as 
well. 

3210
02:46:03,720 --> 02:46:07,240
It's not even PvP. 
OK, fuck you #4 on the charts, 

3211
02:46:07,240 --> 02:46:09,760
not even PvP, fuck. 
But yeah. 

3212
02:46:09,960 --> 02:46:14,560
But pub G is doing really well. 
PC, man, making memes. 

3213
02:46:15,440 --> 02:46:17,160
Games, games, games. 
There are a lot of games. 

3214
02:46:17,160 --> 02:46:19,920
This is why I'm saying that a 
lot of people are very 

3215
02:46:19,920 --> 02:46:22,280
pessimistic, cry about the state
of the industry, blah blah blah.

3216
02:46:22,280 --> 02:46:24,080
But there's so many good games 
coming out. 

3217
02:46:24,240 --> 02:46:25,920
There's so many games. 
Jenny Bastion, I see you. 

3218
02:46:27,120 --> 02:46:30,560
Oh, Danny, What's up there? 
He's not official anymore. 

3219
02:46:30,560 --> 02:46:32,720
I used to. 
Like the official Danny passion 

3220
02:46:32,720 --> 02:46:36,520
official guys get the seamless 
Co-op mod. 

3221
02:46:36,520 --> 02:46:37,760
For what? 
For what game? 

3222
02:46:37,800 --> 02:46:41,240
Which game you talk? 
About but yeah, Epic treasure 

3223
02:46:41,240 --> 02:46:44,400
says it's building in pirates. 
There's literally epic treasures

3224
02:46:44,600 --> 02:46:47,640
Forte just building stuff. 
It's a pocket pair game, all 

3225
02:46:47,640 --> 02:46:51,640
right, Yeah, this is definitely 
under, you know, down your 

3226
02:46:51,640 --> 02:46:55,840
alley. 
Epic for for sure PC gaming, PC 

3227
02:46:55,840 --> 02:46:59,720
master race man, even King 
Thrash got PC and then he said 

3228
02:47:00,480 --> 02:47:03,560
those. 
Oh yeah, He got a really nice 

3229
02:47:03,560 --> 02:47:05,920
podcasting. 
PCI saw it. 

3230
02:47:06,400 --> 02:47:08,480
It looks like. 
It's going to make really good 

3231
02:47:08,480 --> 02:47:11,560
podcasts. 
I can't wait to see. 

3232
02:47:11,560 --> 02:47:13,640
The quality of this. 
Podcast, It's going to be 

3233
02:47:13,640 --> 02:47:16,840
amazing man, bro. 
That guy, I'm not shitting you. 

3234
02:47:16,840 --> 02:47:19,680
Bro that's some good specs for a
podcast. 

3235
02:47:21,840 --> 02:47:23,520
It's. 
Really good shout out to King 

3236
02:47:23,520 --> 02:47:24,920
Thrash. 
Shout out to King Thrash for the

3237
02:47:24,920 --> 02:47:29,960
5017 and. 9800 X 3D and. 
Multiple tweets saying it's. 

3238
02:47:29,960 --> 02:47:33,800
Just for streaming PCs filth. 
It's just for staying staying. 

3239
02:47:33,840 --> 02:47:37,840
I'm like imagine this. 
He could have two discords open 

3240
02:47:37,840 --> 02:47:43,120
at once easy. 
Bro he's got dude, he's going to

3241
02:47:43,120 --> 02:47:45,120
be in stereo that way. 
Bro. 

3242
02:47:46,120 --> 02:47:49,680
It's going to be amazing, bro. 
He was so funny. 

3243
02:47:49,680 --> 02:47:52,200
He's so he's like. 
He's so into the. 

3244
02:47:52,200 --> 02:47:56,480
Console war thing that he can't.
Let go of the fact that he has 

3245
02:47:56,480 --> 02:47:59,040
better. 
He's like I'm now you're he 

3246
02:47:59,040 --> 02:48:01,680
replied someone. 
Why would I limit myself and get

3247
02:48:01,720 --> 02:48:04,560
play games on a 5070? 
I would have got a 5090. 

3248
02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:06,880
I remember I was like you're 
limiting yourself by not playing

3249
02:48:06,880 --> 02:48:09,440
on your PC instead of playing 
your PlayStation. 

3250
02:48:09,440 --> 02:48:12,640
What the fuck you talking about?
Yeah I was going to say you're 

3251
02:48:12,640 --> 02:48:14,880
limiting even playing on the 
pro. 

3252
02:48:14,880 --> 02:48:17,360
It's not as good as your 5070 
PC. 

3253
02:48:17,360 --> 02:48:24,240
With a 9800 S 3D Jesus. 
Hey you know what? 

3254
02:48:24,360 --> 02:48:26,120
That podcast is going to be lit 
man. 

3255
02:48:27,040 --> 02:48:32,640
Can't wait. 
Fucking binaural sounds escape. 

3256
02:48:32,640 --> 02:48:34,120
It'll be fucking VR. 
It's just. 

3257
02:48:34,600 --> 02:48:39,240
Going to be 4K Goodness I call 
man 8K over there. 

3258
02:48:39,960 --> 02:48:43,120
Damn we. 
Ain't got that? 

3259
02:48:43,120 --> 02:48:47,960
Kind of scratch man to buy APC 
just for a podcast not of that 

3260
02:48:47,960 --> 02:48:52,440
calibre. 
Damn dude, I you know what more?

3261
02:48:52,440 --> 02:48:54,000
Power to him that's. 
Amazing. 

3262
02:48:54,000 --> 02:48:56,840
I you know somebody. 
Asked is this a gaming PCI? 

3263
02:48:56,840 --> 02:48:57,840
Think it. 
Was Duck dark? 

3264
02:48:57,880 --> 02:48:58,840
Yeah. 
Duck Duck was honest. 

3265
02:48:58,840 --> 02:49:02,960
He asked that and I said no, 
It's it's a podcast machine, 

3266
02:49:02,960 --> 02:49:04,520
obviously. 
Look at it. 

3267
02:49:05,200 --> 02:49:09,120
Yeah, it's just the specs are 
made for podcasting. 

3268
02:49:09,120 --> 02:49:11,120
Oh shit. 
Oh. 

3269
02:49:11,480 --> 02:49:13,400
Shit. 
Yeah, it's going to be great. 

3270
02:49:13,840 --> 02:49:18,280
It's one of those, you know he 
can visit a gas giant on his 

3271
02:49:18,280 --> 02:49:22,320
PS-5 Pro while he's podcasting 
on a 5070. 

3272
02:49:22,320 --> 02:49:27,480
It's going to be amazing. 
Oh trash. 

3273
02:49:27,800 --> 02:49:30,160
Why? 
Why about coming to? 

3274
02:49:30,160 --> 02:49:32,760
LA this year and Daddy know I. 
Won't be able to do this. 

3275
02:49:34,120 --> 02:49:39,080
Correct me if I'm wrong, but 
that a 5070 with a 9800 X 3D. 

3276
02:49:39,440 --> 02:49:43,200
It's close to 2 grand, Yeah, 
probably about 1800. 

3277
02:49:43,200 --> 02:49:46,880
Yeah, he spent 2 grand on it. 
That's a. 

3278
02:49:46,880 --> 02:49:48,560
Lot for a podcast. 
Bro. 

3279
02:49:51,320 --> 02:49:56,640
That's a lot for a podcast. 
Like I heard he was rather quiet

3280
02:49:56,640 --> 02:49:58,760
too when he first bought it for 
like the first. 

3281
02:49:58,760 --> 02:50:00,880
Couple days like he wasn't 
online. 

3282
02:50:00,880 --> 02:50:02,720
Yeah, yeah. 
Yeah, Doc. 

3283
02:50:02,760 --> 02:50:06,200
Doc was giving him a hard time. 
He's just like, yo guys, look, 

3284
02:50:06,200 --> 02:50:07,480
check out his stuff for 12. 
Hours. 

3285
02:50:07,480 --> 02:50:11,040
He hasn't said anything. 
He's even like, preparing the 

3286
02:50:11,040 --> 02:50:14,280
first 12 hours, preparing his 
podcast, baby, downloading 

3287
02:50:14,320 --> 02:50:17,600
stuff, downloading. 
Downloading discord in OBS 

3288
02:50:17,800 --> 02:50:19,520
didn't. 
Read it. 

3289
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:25,840
Oh man, it's funny, man. 
Oh man, no Tarnished. 

3290
02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:29,080
Gamer, you don't. 
You could do it with a freaking 

3291
02:50:29,080 --> 02:50:36,240
I don't. 
Know 2050 TI you don't need you 

3292
02:50:36,240 --> 02:50:40,720
don't need a high end PC or a 
mid range yeah that's that's 

3293
02:50:40,720 --> 02:50:44,280
kind of a mid high range. 
I would say it's like it's up 

3294
02:50:44,280 --> 02:50:49,040
there, it's mid range, but with 
the 9800 X 3D that just puts it 

3295
02:50:49,080 --> 02:50:52,000
over the top for good gaming 
anyway. 

3296
02:50:52,160 --> 02:50:54,760
Yeah, unless you're right, you 
just need it for encoding with 

3297
02:50:54,800 --> 02:50:57,880
NVANK. 
You don't need a 5070 Yeah yeah,

3298
02:50:57,920 --> 02:50:59,280
yeah. 
Yeah, NVANK. 

3299
02:50:59,320 --> 02:51:04,000
So so then even then, maybe even
a 3060 probably. 3060 would be 

3300
02:51:05,200 --> 02:51:09,800
well, he's worth it listen he he
couldn't escape the allure of it

3301
02:51:10,120 --> 02:51:12,880
for what intention he bought it.
I don't I. 

3302
02:51:12,880 --> 02:51:15,440
Am not it's not for me to say 
it's a podcast. 

3303
02:51:15,440 --> 02:51:18,440
Obviously, if he if he says he 
bought it for podcasting, he 

3304
02:51:18,440 --> 02:51:23,840
bought it for podcasting got. 
To take a man on his word, you 

3305
02:51:23,840 --> 02:51:26,520
got to take him on his word. 
If you say so. 

3306
02:51:26,720 --> 02:51:29,680
He's podcasting. 
If you say so, rough. 

3307
02:51:29,880 --> 02:51:33,680
If now if his podcasts come out 
and they're shit, then you got 

3308
02:51:33,680 --> 02:51:35,520
to say something. 
Be like, hey, wait, wait a 

3309
02:51:35,520 --> 02:51:36,240
minute. 
Where? 

3310
02:51:36,240 --> 02:51:39,360
Where's the extra bells and 
whistles on the podcast? 

3311
02:51:40,040 --> 02:51:43,600
Like I want to see some stuff. 
I want to hear some stuff. 

3312
02:51:44,360 --> 02:51:46,400
Fuzzy's like that's the best 
game in CPU. 

3313
02:51:46,960 --> 02:51:49,800
What Mike is he using with his 
podcast? 

3314
02:51:49,840 --> 02:51:51,360
I don't know. 
Actually, yeah, that's a good 

3315
02:51:51,360 --> 02:51:53,320
point about WhatsApp. 
Is like he always whispers. 

3316
02:51:53,320 --> 02:51:57,800
Into it anyway. 
I I remember when he used to 

3317
02:51:57,800 --> 02:52:00,760
just use his phone to podcast, 
so I don't know what he's. 

3318
02:52:00,760 --> 02:52:03,880
Doing these days. 
He's a maverick, that guy. 

3319
02:52:03,960 --> 02:52:06,240
You never know what he's doing. 
He's doing a podcast right now 

3320
02:52:06,240 --> 02:52:10,120
as a political one. 
Political podcast? 

3321
02:52:10,120 --> 02:52:12,560
Yeah, on his channel. 
Wow. 

3322
02:52:13,120 --> 02:52:14,560
That's not that's not a good 
thing. 

3323
02:52:14,560 --> 02:52:17,360
To do politics and gaming. 
How? 

3324
02:52:17,400 --> 02:52:19,680
About your. 
Channel, but he he got his 

3325
02:52:19,680 --> 02:52:22,400
channel got nuked already. 
He's made a new one it already. 

3326
02:52:22,400 --> 02:52:23,280
Got nuked. 
OK. 

3327
02:52:23,320 --> 02:52:24,600
There you go. 
No, no, but he built. 

3328
02:52:24,600 --> 02:52:26,680
Another one and he's got a 
decent view. 

3329
02:52:26,680 --> 02:52:29,560
He's going to get nuked. 
Again, I'm sorry to tell you, 

3330
02:52:29,560 --> 02:52:32,480
King. 
Thrash don't do politics. 

3331
02:52:32,480 --> 02:52:36,040
Man, I've done that before and 
yeah, that's what happens. 

3332
02:52:36,040 --> 02:52:40,480
Your channel gets nuked. 
He's got to be bad thing to do 

3333
02:52:40,880 --> 02:52:43,360
and keep thrashes skirts the 
line and. 

3334
02:52:43,360 --> 02:52:46,400
Then snorts it and then shits. 
It out so I don't know what 

3335
02:52:46,400 --> 02:52:48,360
he's. 
Flaring at, but yeah, it is what

3336
02:52:48,360 --> 02:52:50,160
it is. 
It is what it is. 

3337
02:52:50,160 --> 02:52:51,760
TuneIn. 
And see how good it sounds on 

3338
02:52:51,760 --> 02:52:54,400
this 5070. 
Yeah, yeah, we will after this. 

3339
02:52:54,400 --> 02:52:58,760
He's live right now. 
But yeah, everyone in the chat, 

3340
02:52:58,760 --> 02:53:00,000
thank you so. 
Much you should. 

3341
02:53:00,000 --> 02:53:03,120
You should raid his political 
podcast with this chat. 

3342
02:53:03,360 --> 02:53:05,200
We should do. 
Oh my God, it would just go be a

3343
02:53:05,200 --> 02:53:06,720
mess. 
It'll be a mess. 

3344
02:53:06,720 --> 02:53:09,480
Just be like, hey, we want to 
get. 

3345
02:53:09,480 --> 02:53:12,000
Banned by association by raiding
that one. 

3346
02:53:13,360 --> 02:53:16,160
Oh yeah, you might. 
You might get AIDS, Yeah. 

3347
02:53:16,320 --> 02:53:19,240
Definitely would, all right. 
Guys, all right. 

3348
02:53:19,320 --> 02:53:20,800
We're going to call it a quick 
fun today. 

3349
02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:23,520
Yeah, bro, you're sick. 
Man should make you a Co host 

3350
02:53:24,120 --> 02:53:28,760
funds. 
It was sick texting people what 

3351
02:53:28,760 --> 02:53:30,680
you're going to have Hoggy? 
He's going to say Xbox is great.

3352
02:53:30,680 --> 02:53:32,880
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

3353
02:53:33,000 --> 02:53:34,960
OK. 
So Tuesday I got my show. 

3354
02:53:35,000 --> 02:53:36,960
Of course. 
GTL games talk live. 

3355
02:53:37,120 --> 02:53:40,320
We'll be there. 
We're also going to Fan Fest 

3356
02:53:40,320 --> 02:53:43,320
this year, so we will both be 
there and we will see everybody 

3357
02:53:43,320 --> 02:53:44,400
there. 
We're going to make the memes 

3358
02:53:44,400 --> 02:53:47,960
out there, have a lot of fun. 
Shout out to BT Maverick. 

3359
02:53:47,960 --> 02:53:50,880
He knows he'll be going as well.
He's already told me. 

3360
02:53:50,880 --> 02:53:53,400
So I'll be catching up with BT 
again. 

3361
02:53:54,080 --> 02:53:55,920
Anybody going out there, feel 
free. 

3362
02:53:56,000 --> 02:53:58,600
Even if you don't like me, come 
up and say what's up or fuck 

3363
02:53:58,600 --> 02:53:59,200
you. 
I'd. 

3364
02:53:59,200 --> 02:54:00,560
I'll take it all. 
I don't care. 

3365
02:54:00,920 --> 02:54:03,760
I'm very chill, relaxed. 
I have a good time out there. 

3366
02:54:03,760 --> 02:54:07,760
It's it's a lot of fun. 
So yeah, I can't wait to meet 

3367
02:54:07,760 --> 02:54:09,880
some new peeps out there this 
year. 

3368
02:54:10,160 --> 02:54:11,960
I've been going now. 
This is the third year in the 

3369
02:54:11,960 --> 02:54:19,320
row in a row. 
So yes, no, I, I probably you. 

3370
02:54:19,320 --> 02:54:21,680
You know what's funny? 
Dude going back to. 

3371
02:54:21,720 --> 02:54:24,280
Like the Phil and. 
Everything I've never even met 

3372
02:54:24,280 --> 02:54:28,000
Phil and he was right there. 
I could have met him, but I just

3373
02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:30,920
I just didn't be want to be one 
of those guys rushing him or 

3374
02:54:31,200 --> 02:54:34,160
bothering him. 
I just, I didn't want to do it. 

3375
02:54:34,280 --> 02:54:38,760
So like, I have a picture 
because I'm standing talking to 

3376
02:54:38,760 --> 02:54:41,040
somebody and they're like, hey, 
let's get a picture together. 

3377
02:54:41,040 --> 02:54:45,000
Guys so. 
I stood like 6 people down from 

3378
02:54:45,000 --> 02:54:48,200
Phil in a picture, but I've 
never shaken his hand, never 

3379
02:54:48,200 --> 02:54:52,760
introduced myself and so I don't
I've never met him and probably 

3380
02:54:52,760 --> 02:54:55,520
would be the same with Asha. 
Unless you know for some reason 

3381
02:54:55,520 --> 02:54:58,680
she was to come up to me and 
somebody else, I'm talking to 

3382
02:54:58,680 --> 02:55:00,320
you or whatever, then maybe I 
would meet her. 

3383
02:55:00,320 --> 02:55:04,640
But yeah, I'm not rushing her, 
not like BTBT is going to molest

3384
02:55:04,640 --> 02:55:11,000
her it seems. 
Oh my God I'm joking BT I'm. 

3385
02:55:11,000 --> 02:55:12,760
Joking he's going to rush her 
though. 

3386
02:55:12,880 --> 02:55:16,040
Yeah, he definitely will. 
He already said he was. 

3387
02:55:16,040 --> 02:55:17,720
He said early. 
Yeah, he said early in the chat.

3388
02:55:18,240 --> 02:55:20,200
But yeah. 
Alright, guys. 

3389
02:55:20,400 --> 02:55:21,240
Thank you. 
Yeah, Catch. 

3390
02:55:21,240 --> 02:55:25,280
Me Tuesday. 4:00 PM W. 
Coast Time. 

3391
02:55:25,520 --> 02:55:31,280
So. 7:00 PM East Coast GTL 
GameStop Live Tuesday. 

3392
02:55:32,120 --> 02:55:34,200
So check this out there, me and 
Hargit. 

3393
02:55:34,480 --> 02:55:38,680
And yeah, I know some people are
like Hargit, such an Xbox, he's 

3394
02:55:38,680 --> 02:55:41,880
such an Xbox, but he's a friend.
He's a friend. 

3395
02:55:42,160 --> 02:55:46,720
And the guy I look, I love being
able to have a guy who has a 

3396
02:55:46,720 --> 02:55:49,920
dissenting opinion and we go 
back and forth and we debate 

3397
02:55:49,960 --> 02:55:52,720
shit. 
It's it's a lot more fun at 

3398
02:55:52,720 --> 02:55:56,520
times when we don't agree then 
always just being like, yeah, 

3399
02:55:56,520 --> 02:55:58,560
man, you're right. 
Yeah, man, you're right. 

3400
02:55:59,360 --> 02:56:02,800
This podcast sucks. 
Those types of podcasts just 

3401
02:56:02,800 --> 02:56:05,640
boring to me. 
I don't know. 

3402
02:56:05,640 --> 02:56:07,200
Dissenting opinion is the way. 
It's that and. 

3403
02:56:07,200 --> 02:56:09,440
That's what, yeah. 
That's what how he brings to the

3404
02:56:09,440 --> 02:56:13,120
table. 
You know, he's a smart guy. 

3405
02:56:13,200 --> 02:56:14,880
He knows his tech. 
That's what I love. 

3406
02:56:15,480 --> 02:56:18,120
He knows his tech. 
Yeah, he does have it, man. 

3407
02:56:18,600 --> 02:56:20,560
But yeah, and a really nice guy,
really nice guy. 

3408
02:56:20,560 --> 02:56:22,440
He's the nicest, one of the 
nicest guys you'll meet. 

3409
02:56:22,880 --> 02:56:26,640
So shout out to him and we chat.
Hit the like button, you 

3410
02:56:26,640 --> 02:56:29,960
bastard. 
Hit the like button and I will 

3411
02:56:29,960 --> 02:56:32,440
get the time stamps up. 
But it was a really good chat. 

3412
02:56:32,560 --> 02:56:34,480
Thank you so much. 
What did you say about that 

3413
02:56:34,480 --> 02:56:36,520
little country? 
Oh no you didn't. 

3414
02:56:36,640 --> 02:56:40,640
OK, never. 
Mind, I thought you were talking

3415
02:56:40,640 --> 02:56:44,320
about a smoke I. 
Don't know what you talking. 

3416
02:56:45,040 --> 02:56:47,560
About anyway, you said something
I didn't. 

3417
02:56:47,800 --> 02:56:50,640
What anyway I'm? 
Going to end the end the stream.

3418
02:56:50,640 --> 02:56:51,800
But thank you so much everyone.
