1 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,320 Ladies and gentlemen, we are live. 2 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:13,840 I think we live. Yes we are. 3 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:20,480 And we're here live with Paris Lily, the man who's all smiles 4 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,520 at Kumbaya, but in the background he wants to beat the 5 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:29,360 shit out of some motherfuckers. If only you knew the real Paris. 6 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,400 But I've had the pleasure of meeting him. 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:35,520 How are you doing, Sir? That's not you. 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:37,160 I'm, I'm doing good. You know I don't. 9 00:00:37,160 --> 00:00:39,000 I don't like that intro. You make me sound like I'm a 10 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:40,640 fucking bully. I'm not a bully, man. 11 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:44,480 You're not a bully, but. You are you are correct, you do 12 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:47,800 get to read the real me and I was talking a lot of shit but 13 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:49,280 that's where a story for another day. 14 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,520 Bro, I, I know the real you, man. 15 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:55,400 And it's, it's nice. It's not like there's a massive 16 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,760 difference. It's not like you're fake on 17 00:00:56,760 --> 00:00:59,320 screen or like you, you, you know, you are what you say you 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:02,040 are. But there's an element of Paris 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,960 Lily that will want to set the record straight and beat the 20 00:01:05,960 --> 00:01:09,360 shit out of some people. And I've met that Paris Lily 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,960 bro. No, my my thing is funny and I 22 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:15,000 don't even mean to start to show off this way, but you know that 23 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,200 smash JT dude, right? I. 24 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:22,600 Don't really I muted him but. But you know all the nonsense 25 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,720 that he does. Anyways, he loves to come in my 26 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,360 comments and say silly stuff, right? 27 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,160 So he did that the other day. So my response to him was, hey, 28 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,400 we both live in San Diego. I am more than happy to meet up 29 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:39,280 with you and we can have this conversation. 30 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,560 The person that can be a friendly, I wasn't threatening 31 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,840 or nothing. I said friendly conversation. 32 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:46,000 I think all this Internet talk is silly. 33 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:47,680 Let's just talk. Crickets. 34 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:53,680 I haven't heard from him since. That's because that's no, 35 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,120 because that's, that's, that's my thing. 36 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:56,960 Like like the internet's the Internet, man. 37 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:59,800 People are going to say crazy stuff or whatever, but just like 38 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,720 you, you and I've met in person. I've met a lot of people in 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,760 person and it's always interesting how and, and people 40 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,240 that love to say crazy shit to me. 41 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,800 I'm not putting you in that category, but I've met people 42 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,960 that have been very critical of me online and said all these 43 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,160 this stuff. And then I meet him in person 44 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,480 and it's a completely different story. 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,240 And you come in like. Because when they see you, they 46 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:27,120 just see Debo on the bike. Yes, it is like. 47 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,120 That. That's the only reason. 48 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:32,440 The only reason people don't step up to you in real life and 49 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,200 you know this is because you built like a brick house and 50 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:37,360 you'll beat the shit out of them. 51 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,720 That is literally the only reason that doesn't happen. 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:43,240 Chat. Am I wrong? 53 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,240 It's so. Obvious. 54 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,840 It's so obvious. It's your bill like a shit who 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:49,480 is going to fucking do anything. What? 56 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,080 Smash JT from I? I barely know the guy. 57 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,640 I've seen a picture of him. He's not going to do anything. 58 00:02:53,640 --> 00:02:56,320 Dreamcast guy bro. It looks like a folded pizza 59 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:57,640 bro. He's not doing shit. 60 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:00,040 Who's going to step up to you bro? 61 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:04,960 No, but and you know, no, no, no. 62 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:06,000 Stop it. Stop it. 63 00:03:06,920 --> 00:03:09,120 Now you're bullshitting. You know for a fact that you 64 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,280 would beat the shit out of people and you built the way you 65 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:14,000 are and that's when no one was up to you. 66 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,160 I don't want to go to gaol. I would never fight anybody. 67 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,400 But that's another way of saying what I just said. 68 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,680 I have never threatened anyone. I've never done none of that. 69 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,560 But being being serious for a second, I legitimately were 70 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,800 like, OK, let's just let's just talk. 71 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,480 This is talk because a matter of fact. 72 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:34,240 And I and I've done this with people online where I've hit 73 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,080 them up and I'm like, yo, DM me, let's hop on a discord and talk. 74 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,800 And it it's always a thing of I just say, Hey, air grievances. 75 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,080 What is it that what's your issue? 76 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,280 And then I, we have a conversation, I'm like, well, 77 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:50,000 actually that's not true because of this or actually you're 78 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,840 mistaking. I'm saying this because of that. 79 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,080 And then we come to a common ground at the end and that's it. 80 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,080 You know what I mean? You have. 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,440 I like the. Conversations. 82 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:01,480 Online. Yeah, and like, like reforge 83 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:02,920 gaming. I think you reached out to him. 84 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,840 Oh, that's a whole nother story. Wow, you reached out to him? 85 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,920 We want to just chat it through. I've I've yeah, and and he 86 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:12,760 tucked the sail and didn't want to do it. 87 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,200 But then he talks tough on his public stream. 88 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,120 It's it's weird how that worked. And look, sister, sister, we 89 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,519 bring it on. Let's just go ahead and cut to 90 00:04:19,519 --> 00:04:23,000 the chase on that. I Colt said something about him. 91 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:25,080 He had a hissy fit over it, right. 92 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:30,480 And then magically he can have Adm with Colt and they come to a 93 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,120 understanding. So I went on his public chat and 94 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:37,680 I was like, interesting you? You sound like a hypocrite 95 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,840 because I reached out to you and you wanted to ignore it and you 96 00:04:40,840 --> 00:04:43,480 try and turn it into this public spectacle. 97 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:48,880 But why was it? Why was he doing that but not 98 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,680 with you? What's the reason? 99 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:56,320 I can tell you why, Because his whole gimmick is no, his whole 100 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,200 gimmick is Xbox is bad. And we had just interviewed Phil 101 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,760 and oh, anyone that talks to Phil or people at Xbox, you, you 102 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,000 do their marketing points. And he called me an astroturfer 103 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:11,240 and also all this silly shit. So I had DM D him like, bro, 104 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:13,680 it's not like that like friendly because I've talked to reforge 105 00:05:13,840 --> 00:05:16,600 him and I have talked like I've been on the show before. 106 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,520 All the crap happened to him a few years back. 107 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,840 And then all of a sudden I'm like, yeah, yeah. 108 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:28,000 I talked to him as recently as maybe two years ago. 109 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,520 I remember when he was talking about the Starfield going to 110 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,800 PlayStation 5 rumours. And we, we had an offline 111 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:34,960 conversation. You know, we kind of talked 112 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,440 about his, the stuff that happened to him with Bungie and 113 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:38,760 all that. And it was friendly. 114 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,960 I had never had an issue with the dude. 115 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,880 But then when I saw him basically trying to lump 116 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,960 everybody into one bucket, I reached out to him and I'm like, 117 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:50,640 hey, man, that's not true. In other words, let's converse 118 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,280 about this because so I can explain to you what happened. 119 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,920 And instead he blanked me and he tried to spin it into, you know, 120 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,240 he, you know, his whole thing is he tries to get member goals. 121 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,320 Oh, give me a member goal, give me money, basically, right. 122 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,400 So I'm like, F that guy. And then he, and then he 123 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,160 realised he looked dumb, so he tried to publicly apologise. 124 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,840 I was like, Nah, F that. I don't want your apology. 125 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:14,800 And then he crashed out, you know, after that. 126 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,720 But it's like, whatever dude that guy is, is what he is. 127 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,680 He he was some see, see, my thing is if I don't know you, if 128 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:25,440 we've never conversed, I could honestly could care less. 129 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:28,760 But if I've actually converse with you, if we've actually 130 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:33,760 spoken and then you basically take that and try and use it for 131 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,280 engagement, whatever. No, I'm I'm going to cuss you up 132 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,920 that that's going to happen. So because, because my thing is, 133 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,560 because my thing is my thing is this. 134 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,280 And I'm sure they'll look, you know, the Clippers will be in 135 00:06:45,280 --> 00:06:49,040 the chat today. But I know there's people that 136 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:52,920 disagree with me, don't like me, Xbox bad, all the stuff that 137 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,640 comes with all that, right. But I'm always, I'm always shoot 138 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,120 you straight on what I think. And I get shit wrong a lot. 139 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,560 But that's part of sticking your neck out there and be in public 140 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,320 and wanting, wanting to have an opinion. 141 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,080 You're not going to get everything right again. 142 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:11,920 When Xbox changed your business strategy, I didn't think that 143 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:14,720 shit was going to happen. No, that really they're not 144 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:16,200 going to put Halo on PlayStation. 145 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:17,960 That sounds crazy. And they did. 146 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,280 What are you going to do? Nothing. 147 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:23,600 You know, hey, I was wrong and you keep it moving. 148 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:24,360 Right. Yeah. 149 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,800 Exactly. Basically. 150 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:32,400 I get that and they I I'm taking the piss, but the half of it is 151 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,560 true. It's because you are built the 152 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,280 way you are built and no one's going to step up. 153 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:36,920 Oh. No, it's. 154 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:38,960 No, it's. Not well, that's what you think, 155 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,200 but we'll have to agree to disagree on that point. 156 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,800 But you know you are right, the space is full of a lot of people 157 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,520 faceless and would never show their face out. 158 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:50,400 They're just doing this bollocks. 159 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,120 But I will say that one, you've been terribly patient with me. 160 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,320 I I joke you, you understand the nature of it. 161 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,000 And I'd be prodding you prodding you prodding and you just take 162 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,560 it in the chin and I'm like, this guy's a nice guy. 163 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,320 I don't know why everyone has beef with it, but at the same 164 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:09,160 time, I understand that. Well, I don't understand why. 165 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,360 I also appreciate is that you'll reach out and resolve, try and 166 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:13,480 resolve things. Obviously. 167 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:16,680 Yeah, yeah. And and that's that's fair game. 168 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:23,200 Like I don't fuck, I've tried to I the the one time I would say I 169 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,280 would say maybe I faltered and I mentioned this before is when I 170 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,080 had I don't really get on. I don't like this guy anymore. 171 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,880 But Colin Moriarty, he was on my show. 172 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,840 Early days of game on daily came on him and Dustin Furman. 173 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:42,360 They were really nice. And then there was some this I 174 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,040 made a like a source video, which is so obviously I don't 175 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,200 think the Internet understands parody or satire. 176 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,560 It's self deprecating content. I give up a heads up to Dustin 177 00:08:51,560 --> 00:08:54,640 Furman and he and he just unfollows me after the video 178 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:56,200 come out. And I'm like, Brett, yeah, I'm 179 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:57,360 just having conversations with you. 180 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,000 Like I gave you pro warning. It's just understand the 181 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:05,360 satirical nature of it. And then and then later on in 182 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,240 some show, I could say Dustin Furman, you're a pizza. 183 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:08,440 How a pizza. Great. 184 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,880 How how dare you? And then Colin, Colin Maria, who 185 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:14,680 goes, I'm surprised. And then I reached out to them 186 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:17,720 and hey, guys, by the way, I hope you haven't taken the the 187 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:22,720 source video that I made a while ago in in you know, to heart. 188 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,800 You both have unfollowed me after that anyway, I hope. 189 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,960 And then it goes, I'm surprised you reached out to me. 190 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:29,760 We came on the show, we were really nice. 191 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:33,080 And then you called Justin Dustin Furman a piece and I 192 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:37,320 said, hey, guys, I apologise. Oh, it's the one the if not the 193 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:41,680 only time I've publicly and privately profusely apologised 194 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,000 to these guys. They're like guys, I didn't 195 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,240 expect you to take it. Obviously when, when I'm friends 196 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:48,200 with people, I will take the piss. 197 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,120 I I'll call you a Dick, I'll call you a bitch, I'll call you 198 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,360 because that's how me and my mates work. 199 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,520 But it's unfair for me to expect everyone to be in that level to 200 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,120 joke like that. So I said, if you've taken it 201 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,640 the wrong way, I apologise. And I, you know what? 202 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:03,960 I'll meet you in person and I'll, I'll, I'll make that 203 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,600 apology anyway. Not that you need to call on my 204 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:07,640 show or anything, just to do that. 205 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,440 Later on it transpires this guy, you know, his politics is 206 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,080 fucking weird and all of this shit. 207 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,240 And then he's cussing me out to his brother on the show saying I 208 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:16,960 would call me an absolute piece of shit, this and that. 209 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,040 I'm like, oh, right, OK, this guy's actually a dickhead. 210 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,600 But so, but it's easy to spill out. 211 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:25,640 It's easy to get involved. Having done this for years, 212 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:28,880 having done the kind of content I do, which is in century by its 213 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,880 nature, and also satirical and also very tongue in cheek and 214 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,840 kind of pushing the barriers of what's I guess acceptable in 215 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:42,080 terms of humour. And you know, a lot of content 216 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:45,280 is PC and stuff, You tend to push the limits a little bit. 217 00:10:45,680 --> 00:10:49,280 And as I've grown older and hopefully a little bit wiser, I 218 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:54,280 feel like, you know, from their perspective, it could see a 219 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:58,640 little bit oppressive that I'm unrelenting in my criticism or 220 00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,760 unrelent. Oh, the joke. 221 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,560 They don't handle the joke the way I do. 222 00:11:01,560 --> 00:11:06,800 I grew up in very multicultural, very different raw like, you 223 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,160 know, my jokes between my friends, there'll be race jokes 224 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,840 that will get me cancelled because they'll make they'll say 225 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,000 stuff to me that you'll say, guess that's got to be racist. 226 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,840 But these are my close boys that will take a fucking bullet for 227 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,440 me and vice versa. It's just a different kind of 228 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:24,360 background, different kind of upbringing, different, but to 229 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,120 expect that everyone else to follow that. 230 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,280 I've realised it's like, you know what, that the people are 231 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,040 so different for me to so. Let me let me follow up on on 232 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:35,600 what you're saying because you know, obviously, like I 233 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,760 introduced to you, I was like this guy's epic, obnoxious and 234 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,040 all that, but I know you're like like at his core. 235 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:42,600 I knew you were never like truly serious. 236 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,880 You're like joking or whatever, right. 237 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,240 But like, even when you would all the kumbaya and all that 238 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:52,960 kind of stuff, I'm I'm that way for exactly everything that you 239 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,160 say, because I don't know how people are good. 240 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:59,080 Like if I know you like, and obviously we've met in person, 241 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,080 you know how I can talk and get down, but I try to be respectful 242 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,080 to people that I don't know on online and, and all that 243 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,280 because, you know, first impressions are everything to 244 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,320 that. And I get we're in this era now 245 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:15,640 of toxic positivity and all this other crap that goes on. 246 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,200 But I genuinely try to have a positive outlook on the industry 247 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,160 until they give you a reason not to and then you call it out for 248 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:23,760 what it is. And we're obviously in this era 249 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,480 right now. I'm sure we'll talk about it as 250 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,840 we go into this. But you know what, my thing is 251 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,760 pretty simple. You know, you give respect to 252 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,920 get respect. And I'm never like even like I 253 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,520 said, even when people come that we the most craziest, most 254 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,840 obnoxious bullshit online, If you ever see, I will respond and 255 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:49,040 go, let's have a conversation. Let's talk because I think a lot 256 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,400 of it is performative. I think a lot of it is I need an 257 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,800 audience. I want people to see me like 258 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,920 again, the reforce thing, come on my show, come on the show. 259 00:12:57,080 --> 00:12:59,000 Fuck that. Come talk to me privately like 260 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,800 you wouldn't any other time. Why do I now have to publicly 261 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,560 come on your show to have a conversation? 262 00:13:04,680 --> 00:13:07,400 We don't need to do that. NIB as an example. 263 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,520 I've talked to him privately. He is not the same privately as 264 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,400 he is publicly. That is just a fact. 265 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,880 And I'm sure he'll write a 20 page Chat GPTAI novel saying I'm 266 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,880 lying. That's the truth. 267 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,400 We actually had a very good conversation. 268 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,600 And do you? I don't, I really don't care. 269 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,240 So I'll just say, you know what he wanted? 270 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,120 Hey, can we publicly go into spaces and do this? 271 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:34,400 No, I don't I don't need I don't need an audience, I guess is my 272 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:36,280 point. If I'm talking to you, I'm 273 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,360 talking to you. And if we wind up having a 274 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,000 public conversation like you and I are having right now, so be 275 00:13:41,000 --> 00:13:44,440 it. But if you're going to grief at 276 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:48,000 me and take things that I say that you don't agree with and 277 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,680 whatever the case may be to the point where I'm like, look, I'm 278 00:13:50,680 --> 00:13:53,800 going to have a conversation with you, That's between me and 279 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,880 you. If you want to go to say what we 280 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:00,160 talked about, go for it. The brat dude as an example, 281 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:04,200 again, another weirdo that, you know, I, I, honestly, I think at 282 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,720 this point, I think he has a crush on me or something. 283 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:11,560 Because I notice anytime I say something, he's got to quote, 284 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:13,920 tweet it, whatever. Disagree with it. 285 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,240 Fine. I, I, you want to talk about 286 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,360 being a bully? I literally had to bully that 287 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:20,840 dude to get on a phone call with me. 288 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:27,640 Literally he had he had every excuse in the book to not talk 289 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,520 to me and then finally I just bullied him to the point where 290 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:35,200 he did get on the phone. Conversation didn't start off 291 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:40,120 great I will admit, but this is my point. 292 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,680 Ain't none of your business. That's between me and him. 293 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,960 But I'd love to still love to hear it. 294 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,320 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's how I am. 295 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,160 That's how I operate. I would rather talk to you. 296 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:55,080 We can cuss each other out until, you know, so the sun 297 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:57,960 comes up. But if we can come to a meeting, 298 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,720 even if we don't agree at the end, that's fine. 299 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:01,640 That's what adults do. It's like. 300 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,520 All this video game bullshit that we go through and all the 301 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:10,320 stuff that you see and oh, Xbox bad and PlayStation this and all 302 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,080 the console war stuff that you see. 303 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,520 It's so juvenile to me. And you know this and I know you 304 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:20,400 give me shit about it, but like, can we ever just have an actual 305 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,600 adult conversation about this? And I know we'll get in the 306 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,720 state of play and we'll we'll talk about all the all that. 307 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,760 Adult conversation, We'll go down the toilet. 308 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,040 But yeah, that's right. I mean, yeah. 309 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,400 I know it will. I'll bring this up. 310 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:32,240 High guard. Yeah. 311 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:37,440 One for me, one for me. I agree that bro I played it 45 312 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,960 minutes in I was playing with with Danny and his wife and I 313 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:45,080 was like no I'm I'm good this this is not what I want. 314 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:48,680 Put it down, walked away literally said one for me. 315 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:50,920 I gave it a shot. Wish him all the best. 316 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,360 Clearly the best did not happen for them. 317 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:55,920 That game is eventually going to go away. 318 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,120 They've already laid off so many people. 319 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,520 Most of their stuff, right? 80% or something? 320 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:02,600 Yeah, already most of the staff, so they're going to keep it 321 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,760 going for a while. But we we know what's ultimately 322 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,720 going to happen, that that game is going to go away. 323 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,720 But my thing is I don't need to run around celebrating its 324 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,160 failure. You know hey, the game wasn't 325 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,920 for me. Wish them all the best. 326 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,760 Damn sorry that that happened. You know it got laid off. 327 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,240 They tried something that didn't work. 328 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,720 That's going to happen a lot. My whole thing has been and 329 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,480 again, this is when smash AT said some silly shit to me. 330 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,960 You, you don't want these big budget games to fail. 331 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:32,360 I'm telling you now, you don't you? 332 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,480 You don't need to be celebrating a game to fail. 333 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:39,160 Like from Concorde to the High Guard Marathon, potentially, 334 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,920 like you don't want these games to fail because what's going to 335 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,880 happen is, as you're already seeing, they're getting laid 336 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,240 off. The studio's closing. 337 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,000 But the bigger thing is the thing that people really should 338 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:53,600 be concerned about is Microsoft, PlayStation, EA, Ubisoft, all 339 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:57,960 these publishers, they're going to look at that and go, no, I'm 340 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:59,840 not. I'm not green lighting that that 341 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:04,920 risky new IP make Fallout 5. Right on that. 342 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,880 Point the next Last of Us, all that stuff, you're going to get 343 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,000 sequels and like we just got this God of War remaster that's 344 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,280 coming out or whatever it is, right? 345 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,560 You're going to get you're going to get shit that's safe. 346 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,800 I don't want safe. I want how gaming used to be 347 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,240 like during the 360 PS3 era where we saw all these new IPS. 348 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,680 They were taking risks with stuff, they were innovating. 349 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,400 They cost too much. Now games take way too long to 350 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,200 come out. They cost way too much to make. 351 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,080 These publishers are taking less and less risk. 352 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,160 They're scaling back. And as a gamer, that's not what 353 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,240 I want. So when I say don't you should 354 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,960 root for games to succeed, that's what I mean by that. 355 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,640 I'm not saying if a game is bad to not criticise it. 356 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:48,400 Of course the game is terrible, call it out for what it is. 357 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,960 If if there was poor leadership that led to that game being bad, 358 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,240 call it out. Of course no one's saying the 359 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:56,040 not seen. This is where the toxic 360 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,040 positivity and all this shit comes in. 361 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:00,120 It's not what I'm saying at all and this is what I'm saying. 362 00:18:00,120 --> 00:18:02,720 It's like you make a tweet. People interpreted however they 363 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,480 want versus actually just reading exactly what you said. 364 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,920 I had a dude that was saying that I I can't even remember 365 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:12,520 what it was now because cold even got involved but like he 366 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,760 literally missed the part where I said if a game is bad call it 367 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:20,680 out for lack of a better term and had this whole 20 page rant 368 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:23,120 where he was saying that I was protecting games. 369 00:18:23,120 --> 00:18:27,360 This is not what the FI said. I know you better over a period 370 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:31,080 of years, I've known you and I've seen your discord and I 371 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:34,200 will say it's I can see why the mistake is made with you because 372 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,800 I've done that. I've done that with you. 373 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:39,440 I'm like, and I I at least comment publicly like Kumbaya 374 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:40,960 Paris. Shut the fuck up, Paris. 375 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:44,200 You know your mate Danny Pena does it, but in a nice, my 376 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,720 friendly way because you have you been boys for a while, but I 377 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:48,080 just do it in a more abrasive way. 378 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,960 But that's my way of like getting to know you as well. 379 00:18:50,360 --> 00:18:54,240 But at the same time, I can see why people think that about you. 380 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,440 But knowing you and then reading the full thing properly in the 381 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:03,520 context of you as a person, I understand that that one of the 382 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,720 biggest, you know, for the yellow chair guy, the guy who 383 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,960 was sold out. I meant to have it is living 384 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,160 right there. I should I should. 385 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,800 Have said that I should have sat there bro and and you know and 386 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,800 people take that at face value. Oh yellow chair fucking Paris 387 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,280 Lee. And you get it more than anyone 388 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,640 you get that get the the brunt of it. 389 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,640 Or maybe, maybe young yeah or someone else does as well. 390 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:29,160 But a lot of the you're seen as that What when I looked into 391 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:30,160 that. So I looked into that. 392 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,960 I'm like, all right, OK, well, is Paris really, really like a 393 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,880 shill for for these things? So, and this is very early on. 394 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:42,320 I looked at it and I said, oh, straight away early beyond the 395 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,160 preview that all the press played when you when you came 396 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,160 out with your review, you were fucking scathing of that game. 397 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,120 And a lot of people who know use yellow chair Paris in the chat, 398 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:57,560 ask yourselves, how many of did you, how many of you knew that 399 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,480 if you know Paris Lily for his yellow chair and all that meme, 400 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,160 did you know that he was very scathing of it in the review? 401 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,320 Because I had to seek that out. People will pull out the most 402 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,960 negative in you and quickly that is emblazoned in the memories of 403 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,000 people or the IDs of people. But no one will go out of their 404 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,200 way to say, hey, no, actually, Paris, Lily. 405 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,600 It was very scary. Here, here's a clip of him being 406 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:23,160 very negative, but they will take the negative and put that 407 00:20:23,160 --> 00:20:24,400 out. And you've got those weird 408 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,600 fucking virgins who do that constantly online. 409 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,160 They literally just clip, clip, clip. 410 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,960 And that's all they do. And, you know, so this is where 411 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:33,680 I, yeah, I saw that. I'm like, all right, OK, hold on 412 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:35,480 a minute. This is this is this is not 413 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,800 right. But I can see why. 414 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:40,560 Because the way the old guys used to perceive and Paris is 415 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,800 just being positive as fuck all the fucking time. 416 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:47,280 And if when I if someone said to me, who do you think of when you 417 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,840 think toxic positivity? Your your name was one of the 418 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,280 first that comes into my head. Not because I think you're 419 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,280 toxically positive, but I know that's the perception you come 420 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,160 in when you say something like we need to do better. 421 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,240 My first gut instinct is shut the fuck up. 422 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,480 And I'm to be honest with you. And and then I'm just like, 423 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:09,360 well, I know you. I'm like, he's right, he's 424 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,280 right. But at the same time, sure, just 425 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,720 stop policing the way I feel. And at the end of the day, 426 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,320 you're right. And when it comes to talking 427 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,240 about these are creatives, they have gone out of their way to 428 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,840 build something that's creative. They care a lot about this. 429 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,840 They've spent years sectional working on this bit of craft. 430 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,720 Our family knows about this creative bit of work. 431 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,520 We make content, a video fails, we feel a certain way or you 432 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,360 know, oh shit, that's shit. But imagine taking that multiple 433 00:21:36,360 --> 00:21:40,160 degrees, multiple years of investment, and then real like 434 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,960 stakes at play with your pay, your you know how you're 435 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,240 perceived this and that and people that just shit on you 436 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:49,520 like they're entitled to fucking shit on you. 437 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,800 And I've done that. And I've done that and I will 438 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,200 continue doing that, but. I know. 439 00:21:55,360 --> 00:22:01,600 I know, I know, but the but the difference is this I when it 440 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,920 comes to if I have a choice between toxic positivity, then 441 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,240 these are talking about extremes here, like being really nice. 442 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:08,320 Like guys, leave the depths alone. 443 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,480 It could be a little bit negative, but you know, let's 444 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,480 just be positive versus being, say default gas being really 445 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:17,720 scathing. Like what the fuck is this? 446 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,840 How the fuck like David Jaffe? Let's talk about David Jaffe. 447 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,440 Let's talk about God of War, God of War, son of Spa. 448 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:30,120 That that that that game that got revealed at the the state of 449 00:22:30,120 --> 00:22:35,800 play. This this man built God of War. 450 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,040 He's the creator of the IP. This man. 451 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,520 Without him, you wouldn't even be talking about it. 452 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,360 Right. He built this game and got David 453 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,640 Jaffe is a very divisive character and I know you, I've 454 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,000 seen you in his replies like what the fuck is this delete 455 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,080 this shit this is dumb. Like someone's dead dad in the 456 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,400 cemetery and he's like this is an Xbox bro. 457 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,040 I lost my ass off at that joke and I said how the fuck can you 458 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,200 do that? It's dumb. 459 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,960 In private, though, a lot of us would laugh. 460 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,640 The thing is, David Jaffe doesn't mean it in a bad way. 461 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,720 But it was an insensitive joke and the the other person 462 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,480 accepted it fine. You know, as long as the other 463 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,280 person is OK with it, all right, fine. 464 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:24,080 OK, but I laughed and I said I envied him because I said this 465 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:27,920 motherfucker can do whatever he wants because he's retired and 466 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,560 he could say the shit that he wants, but he his intentions 467 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,720 weren't bad. His intentions weren't bad. 468 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,840 And you know, we can't always glean intention, but it's always 469 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,880 making a judgement call. Yes, Internet. 470 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:41,880 Yes, Internet, but he said some fucking wild shit. 471 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:47,120 And this, this guy who made God of War says his the way he 472 00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:49,360 responded was the what the fuck? How did you green light this? 473 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:51,240 This is not God of War. This is dog shit. 474 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,080 And he gives you different examples of 2D Metrovania games, 475 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,720 this and that. I said this is much better, but 476 00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,280 this is dog shit. You don't know what you're 477 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,880 doing. So he falls under the very 478 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,560 negative side of it. Now imagine someone who worked 479 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:08,120 at that game coming across I'm like this guy's fucking, I love 480 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,920 this guy. He's the reason why I've worked 481 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,160 on this game and now he's saying my game is ass and I feel hurt 482 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,000 to which I say fucking get get get a grip. 483 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,480 I don't give a shit about your feelings. 484 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,200 That's the way I brought I was brought up Paris. 485 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,400 My parents did not cuddle me like that. 486 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,760 There was no toxic positive. Forget toxic positivity 487 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,440 positivity. If I got an A my dad said why is 488 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:31,560 it not a plus? Typical Asian pen bloody 489 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,880 bastard. Why is it not a plus bastard? 490 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,960 It's the Asian mentality in me. And you know, I've, I welcome 491 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,360 it. I, I, you know, sometimes it 492 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,960 was, it was, it was annoying. It sometimes I, I remember like, 493 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,680 you'll never be happy, dad. Like, fine it goes. 494 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,200 Oh, yeah, OK. You became a lawyer. 495 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:47,920 All right. What else? 496 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,240 What about your cousin, though? Or, you know, that kind of 497 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,640 mentality And but at the same time in hope it gave me a 498 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,520 thicker skin. And I'm in an arena now in a 499 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,280 creative space where people really genuinely fucking care. 500 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:05,040 And if you do well and you, you, then inversely you're seen as a 501 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,480 fucking legend as well. So it comes with that game is a 502 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,720 very dedicated bunch. If you, if you smash it, they 503 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,040 will build freaking statues out of you. 504 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,160 If you fuck it up, they will shit on it and go, in David 505 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:21,040 Jaffe's case, they will build a statue out of you and then 506 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,360 they'll take a shit on you after the fact. 507 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:29,440 And so the gaming discourse is just, so I say, toxic or so 508 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,840 polarised because there's so much emotion involved and I'm 509 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,120 sure there's a middle ground. And you're absolutely right, 510 00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:38,360 there's better ways to go about it. 511 00:25:38,360 --> 00:25:42,440 Maybe, but I enjoy the rawness of the melon. 512 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,480 I just enjoy it, I know you do and I think. 513 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,280 Ultimately balance this out in that sense. 514 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,480 So couple, couple things on that. 515 00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:53,000 Yes, Jeffy and I have had our back and forths over the years, 516 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,280 right? But at the same time, I do think 517 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:59,800 he's allowed an opinion. Of course he created the goddamn 518 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,320 series, so of course he's going to have an opinion about it 519 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,760 whether we'd like it or not. My thing is when it comes, and 520 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:10,320 I'm not saying coddle the devs or old again dude, don't say 521 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,160 anything to me. Games deserve criticism. 522 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,400 Of course Black. Look at Black Ops 7 as an 523 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,560 example. Black Ops 7 was not a good Call 524 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,320 of Duty and it deserved all the heat that it got. 525 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,200 So much so that what happened, they are no longer going to do 526 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,360 back-to-back Black Ops or Modern Warfare games ever again, right? 527 00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,200 They understand they can't just pump this stuff out. 528 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,480 Now we will see what Modern Warfare 4 will be later this 529 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,440 year. And you know all the the rumours 530 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,800 and speculation, it's going to be called a really good Call of 531 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:40,560 Duty. We'll see. 532 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:45,120 But Cyberpunk is going all the way back to that deserved all 533 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,360 the freaking criticism that it got in 2020. 534 00:26:47,360 --> 00:26:49,640 And if you talk to people at CD Project Red, they will agree 535 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,640 with you because that game should not have seen the light 536 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:56,120 of day in December of 2020. It clearly needed more time. 537 00:26:56,120 --> 00:26:59,360 If you think about it, Cyberpunk didn't get to the great state 538 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:03,200 that it is right now until, God, two years later. 539 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:05,400 I think that's how much more time. 540 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That they needed. 541 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,840 So it's not about, oh, you can't critique this like, like the 542 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,360 high guard thing. Let's just stick on high guard. 543 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,520 High guard again, wasn't for me. Clearly the people have spoken 544 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,040 because and and think what you want about Jeff Keeler. 545 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,800 Whatever. I don't think he had malicious 546 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,760 intent by putting that game at the end of as the one more 547 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,960 thing. It was something that he played. 548 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,280 He obviously really enjoyed it. He was trying to hey, I want to 549 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,920 boost this team and get more eyeballs on it, which mission 550 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,160 accomplished. 100,000 people were playing it the first day, 551 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,760 so at that point it is now up to the game to speak for itself. 552 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,120 It's not about what Jeff Keeley, do you think about whatever. 553 00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:50,000 Clearly he didn't have financial stakes in it. 554 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,480 They didn't have to pay to be there. 555 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,240 He did all that itself. So it's like take Jeff out at 556 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,040 that point. Now it's about high guard. 557 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,360 The game itself, you got people to pay attention to it. 558 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,440 I don't care that they flew out creators, you can call them 559 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,680 shills or whatever, but 100,000 people decided to give that game 560 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,760 a shot. And as we sit here today, 561 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,480 there's only like 2 or 3000 there to continuing to play it. 562 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:14,040 So that's a failure on the game. That's a failure on them. 563 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,960 The the risk that they took with the design choices, all all of 564 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,040 that. And that's why I also said, hey, 565 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,480 I wish them success because even though I didn't like it, I'm 566 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,920 like, well, maybe if they can stick around long enough and get 567 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,440 enough community feedback, maybe they can iterate on it and get 568 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,360 it to a good, a good state. But going back all the way back 569 00:28:32,360 --> 00:28:35,040 to what I was originally saying, we're in a current era right now 570 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,880 in this current economic climate, however yo you want to 571 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,680 say it, there's just too much money at stake. 572 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,280 And these games are no longer getting that time, especially 573 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,480 the live service game like Marathon, honestly is going to 574 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,040 be very interesting to me. Full disclosure, I was years 575 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:52,560 ago, I was in the creative programme. 576 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,840 I'd went out to bungee, played it early, the whole thing, this, 577 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080 obviously this, this closed alpha that came out, you know, 578 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,600 last year, didn't like it, gave my feedback. 579 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,360 I'm getting Full disclosure, I'm still a part of the programme. 580 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,080 I still see a few things early or whatever, but there's 581 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,120 obviously ND as embargoes with all that stuff. 582 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,480 But with that said, I have no idea what the current build 583 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,840 looks like. I've not played it, whatever. 584 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,680 I'm just as fascinated and interested as everyone else. 585 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,360 I've heard whispers they've made a lot of progress, you know, 586 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,840 things that they're doing is looking like, hey, it might be a 587 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:30,880 thing, but did they already get too bad of of a reputation with 588 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,120 the stolen art and just the bad look that that closed alpha was 589 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,560 that it doesn't matter how what they do at this point and how 590 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,760 patient will PlayStation beat with Bungie on this before they 591 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,320 pull the plug? Obviously Concorde, there was 0 592 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,520 patience for that. They pulled that shit after like 593 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:50,760 10 days. So Bungie is legendary studio. 594 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,440 We think about it. I was just explaining this to my 595 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,280 son the other day because he's been going through playing all 596 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:59,480 the old Halos and I was telling him how Max Cleaver, Max 597 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,880 Cleaverman, that's how you say his name. 598 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:05,800 But anyways, Ed, Bungie at the time essentially created the the 599 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,920 party chat and everything that we saw for for what we have 600 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,760 today with modern console multiplayer games, right? 601 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,720 So obviously Bungies near and dear to my heart. 602 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:17,600 I played Destiny for 10 goddamn years. 603 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,960 I don't want to see Bungie fail, but Marathon has to be good. 604 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,400 They don't get a pass if it's not good, if people and The 605 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,080 thing is, is an extraction shooter, well, obviously arc 606 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:31,520 Raiders just kind of proving that it still is, but we'll see. 607 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,560 And and if it's not good, yes, you criticise it. 608 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:39,000 But I think the whole point I'm making here, I think some people 609 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,040 go over the top with it. I think some people go out of 610 00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:45,360 their way to just be overly critical and just overly 611 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,080 negative. And on the flip side, I think 612 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,880 some people go out of the way to be overly positive and overly 613 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,160 praising of something that doesn't necessarily deserve it 614 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,920 either, either extreme, you know what I mean? 615 00:30:55,920 --> 00:31:00,360 So that's where I come in and I'm like, man, let's just call 616 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,920 it like, you see it. Yeah, that's fair. 617 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,560 Even if a game isn't for you, you don't have to just 618 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,000 consistently shit on the game. I guess it's my point. 619 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,400 Say your piece, keep it moving. If you really like a game. 620 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,000 Obviously if you love something, you're clearly going to praise 621 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,840 and cheerlead it for it. But don't do it to the point 622 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,600 where people are just like annoyed with you. 623 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,480 Like you're saying like oh me, toxic positivity guy or 624 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,080 whatever, right? You, you don't want that because 625 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,360 then people tune you out. They don't believe anything that 626 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:28,480 you say. They're not going to listen to 627 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,240 you again, like I said on either extreme. 628 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:35,000 So I personally try to stay in the middle of it and people 629 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,320 clearly can judge what they think of my opinion going from 630 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:39,600 there. I hope all that made sense. 631 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,960 I feel like I was rambling at the end. 632 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:44,040 No, no, yeah, you know, it's it's interesting to have that 633 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,240 perspective of yours and it's it's a measured one. 634 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,200 Like people will say, Gaz, you are the polar opposite of 635 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,320 exactly what Paris Lilly is talking about. 636 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,840 And that's true. I, I and I completely concede to 637 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,880 that. I think that merits to what 638 00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,920 you're saying. And and I agree with what you're 639 00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:01,560 saying. It's actually the D sensible 640 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,040 approach. What you're essentially saying 641 00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,480 is have a measured response, give good feedback and don't 642 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,240 dwell on the issue to be so you know, corrosive in your feedback 643 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:13,560 that you know, and then it spills out to becoming personal. 644 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,160 My hurt feelings out of that. And ultimately it's an art form 645 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,600 should give your critique and then move on. 646 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,960 And I completely understand that I won't do that. 647 00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,160 The reason why I won't do that is because I have a stressful 648 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,440 day life in a job and I want to be a Dick in real life and so I 649 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040 could take out and everyone. No, the the real reason why I 650 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:33,360 don't do that is because I I saw it with high guard. 651 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,360 High guard. I said don't auto. 652 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,120 This is the most calm in the middle. 653 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,000 This is me being Paris Lily. This is me saying about that. 654 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,480 I would just say this irrespective of what it was. 655 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,000 I said look, don't just write it off. 656 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,200 It's not another Concorde. It's a decent game, it's got 657 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,040 good ideas and it's solid works at launch. 658 00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,920 Will it have very early impressions? 659 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,960 Question whether it has the longevity? 660 00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,600 I just don't think it will have the long, long legs, but it's 661 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,720 that they've done something. They've they've committed to a 662 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,960 vision and it's but it's got its work. 663 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,880 Cut out the same thing for the marathon. 664 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,880 Marathon at first I saw it didn't have procs. 665 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,360 Chat didn't really know what they were doing. 666 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,280 Their their rationale was stupid. 667 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,440 They were like, Oh no, we're thinking about, you know, like 668 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,640 the it's going to be negative. I don't like the whole fucking 669 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,920 point about these extraction games is the social, you know, 670 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,960 interaction. I I purposely pick a play a 671 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:31,240 character being a bad guy in the game, being a Dick in arc 672 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,560 Raiders because I I'm playing that character, build a trust. 673 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,680 It's a meta game in itself. And you building an an 674 00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,040 extraction shoe and say stuff like that is like, are you 675 00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,760 really Bungie? Do you know what what 676 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,120 multiplayers like? You know, and you went about 677 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:52,560 building this. Oh shit, building this what's it 678 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,240 called genre of game committing to this with all the pressure 679 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,800 that you have from Sony to assimilate you with the targets 680 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,080 that you're not hitting because your independence is on the 681 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:02,240 line, which is pretty much gone now. 682 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:07,720 Let's be honest. Then you've committed to this 683 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,719 extraction shoe and you you you're half hearting it like 684 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,880 you're getting limp wristed attitudes with the the theft was 685 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,960 obviously inexcusable. That's been resolved. 686 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,840 But you know, at the same time it's like, what the fuck? 687 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,520 So it felt like these guys didn't know what they were 688 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,639 doing. Now me being the former Xbox guy 689 00:34:24,639 --> 00:34:28,880 and just the toxic console warrior, I would loved shitting 690 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,120 on Marathon because it's a representation of PlayStation 691 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,400 constantly struggling to do what they've always decried, a whole 692 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,800 genre which is multiplayer. And now Sony commits massively 693 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,719 to it and it falters, including its best studio, Naughty Dog 694 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:47,520 completely fails. But then I find myself I'm still 695 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,199 a gamer at the end of the day, I love Bungie. 696 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,280 I love. I loved Bungie since I played 697 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:58,600 only on the PS2. I believe I I love games and the 698 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,880 park the fanboy content creator to one side. 699 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:06,480 I wanted this game to be good. I and I've got the I paid for 700 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,120 the freaking limited edition for a reason. 701 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,840 I wouldn't do this and I really buy this shit. 702 00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:13,560 I don't buy this. The last one is fucking, what's 703 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,520 it called, the Starfield 1 and and I bought that because I, I 704 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,880 gent, it's not because I want to support the devs. 705 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,120 I just like their shit and I will support them. 706 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,440 I'll go out of my way to support you when it comes to those 707 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,960 microtransactions, you get money out of me, real money out of me. 708 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,640 I'm a piece of shit when it comes to that, I'm a problem. 709 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:38,560 But then they worked hard, then they took the feedback to me. 710 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,800 I haven't played it yet, so Full disclosure, I have not played 711 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,560 it. So they worked hard. 712 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,160 They they're they're working hard to and they they've 713 00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,680 listened to feedback. They clearly took notes from arc 714 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,280 Raiders and that's not a bad thing. 715 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:53,160 You can hold your hands up. And they did and responded 716 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,120 accordingly. Whether or not this game is 717 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,480 going to be a guaranteed success, I don't know, but I 718 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,680 want it to be good. And every time they show it, it 719 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:04,200 looks great and it looks and. That's the thing, and that's 720 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,320 yeah. And that's my thing. 721 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,600 I want it to be good. But if it's not, it's not. 722 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,240 And you, you call it like you see it, you know, when when it 723 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:16,080 ultimately releases, I mean, when is that the 20, the 26th? 724 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:18,920 26th yes, so not next week, but the following week, and I can't 725 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,760 wait to play that and it's going to be a good like it's like, 726 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,000 have I just wasted money on this thing? 727 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,440 Well, I'll still I'll still appreciate the arts, so it'll be 728 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:30,480 it'll be there, but at the same time, it's like I reckon they 729 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,800 can they can pull it off. When I say pull it off, I'm not 730 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,760 saying they're going to hit arc Raiders because arc Raiders 731 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,800 something special arc Raiders is special on so many different 732 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,440 levels. Arc Raiders special because of 733 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,160 its AI. The AI in that game is 734 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,520 incredible. I've not played these are hits, 735 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:46,600 all the things I've talked about. 736 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,120 Incredible AI that gets smarter by the week because of his 737 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,520 adaptive learning or whatever machine learning shit it got. 738 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,680 Amazing sound design. I can't believe he didn't win 739 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,560 any audio awards because it was fucking amazing. 740 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,320 So engrossed. The visuals, amazing. 741 00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:02,200 UV5 didn't even use all the tools that caused the starter 742 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,320 and still looks incredible. The art design, the way the 743 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,840 level is designed, everything's just curated. 744 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,360 Everything feels different, every area seems unique. 745 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,200 It's like they thought about a hand drawn to that mad level and 746 00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,400 then the Pve, the procs chat, all the things that marathon 747 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,920 wasn't doing initially, the even things like the free loadout run 748 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,960 and it just comes together and it's beautiful, incredible game. 749 00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:29,040 Marathon and Bungie, I can shit on them because I'm like, I want 750 00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,520 on for the for the views, but I which, which one of these toxic 751 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,200 console warriors will go out of their way to defend or vouch for 752 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,080 the opposing platforms game? No one does it Marathon 753 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,480 Marathon. I have PlayStation guys telling 754 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,880 me that this game is ass and I'm going to like well, I fucking 755 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:49,000 I'm vouching for this game and the play the Xbox hardcore. 756 00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,040 Are you such a fucking pony Bob sell out. 757 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,120 Why are you vouching for it? Because I want it to be good and 758 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:58,800 if it's shit, then that is shit and I will say it. 759 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,800 I'm like fuck fucking wrong. It was terrible, but I don't 760 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,720 think it will be. But I don't know, let's see, 761 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,120 we'll find out in two weeks, but Marathon was one of the better 762 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:08,400 looking games. Now Paris, Speaking of toxic 763 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,680 positivity and shit like that, the state of play happened and I 764 00:38:12,720 --> 00:38:16,480 genuinely heard a lot of a lot of the the sad fanboys were on 765 00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,600 my case on this one. Before I go ahead, what was your 766 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,640 impression of the state of play? What did you think? 767 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,320 I thought it, I thought it was fine. 768 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,280 I thought it was honestly one of the better ones they've done in 769 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,280 the past few years. But I also went in with 770 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,000 realistic expectations. I was not expecting to see 771 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:41,680 Wolverine or Intergalactic or because some surprise Spider Man 772 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,120 3 or some shit like that. I'm like we might see Soros are 773 00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,640 going to show a bunch of third party stuff and anything else 774 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,920 first party is probably going to be, you know, smaller AA type 775 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,880 titles. And that's exactly what it was. 776 00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,080 The Castlevania game look great to me. 777 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,960 Troll resident looks fantastic to me. 778 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640 We're getting more Kena love the first one. 779 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:08,200 I mean we'll see what this God of War remake thing is going to 780 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,560 be, but clearly they're putting effort into it because they're 781 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,160 bringing TC back. So he's obviously recording new 782 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,880 new new dialogue. Let's see what the visual 783 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,880 upgrade looks like. It's it's a ways off obviously 784 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:22,840 because they're just it's more of an announcement than hey, 785 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,400 you're about to get it. So I don't think so. 786 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,920 I don't think you're seeing this in 2026. 787 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,040 Maybe 2027 could even be 2028 at this point. 788 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,600 But yeah, I, I thought it was a, it was a very solid 789 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:40,920 realistically partner showcase. A to D What would you give it? 790 00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:50,400 I'll give it AB. Yeah, sounds like AB based on 791 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:55,520 what you're saying. I would give it ACI, would give 792 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:00,240 it AC because I feel PlayStation as the market leader. 793 00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,800 And having successive shit shows throughout as and making a big 794 00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:09,880 Hoo ha about this market leaders first party output and the 795 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,840 importance of exclusives and their first party stuff just 796 00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,640 built interest to discharge before the show came in. 797 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,680 And I was like, Oh well this is basically a PlayStation showcase 798 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,920 because it's an hour and 6 minutes long and they've got so 799 00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,600 many third parties and first parties going to be fucking 800 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,760 great. So when I watch that show, I was 801 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,160 and then what saw the reactions online, I was, I was like, oh, 802 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,080 hold on a minute. You gave Jeff Keeley so much 803 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,160 shit for his game award show, which I thought was better, but 804 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,240 it was only because the way it ended that you guys gunned him 805 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,040 because the next big thing was high guard. 806 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,960 And what's the next big thing for at the end? 807 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,440 The way it ended Fucking 2D God of War. 808 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,840 That looks like ass. So I am still have this demand 809 00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:58,880 for a PlayStation to discharge its burden when it comes to 1st 810 00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,320 party and this year is its best year in years when it comes to 811 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,240 1st party on what's actually even releasing. 812 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,760 You've got Marvel stock on you've got Soros, which I'm 813 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,280 looking forward to. One of the few people that 814 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,680 actually vouched for return when it came out called a game of the 815 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,120 year. Then it was what else? 816 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:19,400 Then you've got Wolverine, which they didn't show. 817 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,320 And what do they show this showcase? 818 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,920 Cana 2, great. Not really first party but 819 00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,720 Sony's helping them. I'll give them a badge. 820 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,960 That's nice. And Cana 2 looks brilliant. 821 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,400 So much third party stuff. Had already seen Galactic Racer, 822 00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:40,240 already seen Feast of Reincarnation seen and it was on 823 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,160 Dev Direct. But so much shit. 824 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,960 If you go back, everything is on PC, Bari, Soros, Wolverine and 825 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,120 something else. I think Soros not being on PC is 826 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:56,160 a mistake personally, but that's a whole nother argument for 827 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:57,720 another day. I think so. 828 00:41:57,720 --> 00:42:00,840 I think Soros, you could carve it out and like with the 829 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,320 Eternal, it was niche's rogue light, whatever, it's going to 830 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,760 have its work cut out. Obviously the rebranded stuff 831 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,480 will work. They made the Soros that they 832 00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:11,040 showed off. They they were literally showing 833 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,360 off the accessibility options and basically say, look, it's 834 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,560 not that hard. And I was like, oh, that's 835 00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,640 fucking great. So you don't want to alienate 836 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,200 everyone. But the thing that I liked about 837 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:20,800 Return was the fact that it was hard. 838 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,560 So when I completed it, I was like, that was my achievement. 839 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,800 Felt satisfied. Exactly, just like with Elden 840 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,720 Ring, and which I still need to. I've tried twice. 841 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:30,800 I need to go back again. I'm PC and I would restart my 842 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,320 save and there's a sense of achievement and you've got to 843 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,600 get rid of that. This add the same thing with 844 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,720 seafood. I love seafood, but when you 845 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:41,720 added those difficulty modes, I'm like, what that takes away 846 00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:44,560 from from the craft of it, the the, you know, the feeling of 847 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,080 it. So what what do they show 848 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,920 PlayStation guys me repeatedly say that Sony don't show off 849 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,600 things for that may ages away. So I'm expecting what are these 850 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,080 studios doing? What's the Sony Sony, Sony Santa 851 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,440 Monica. You guys are saying that one had 852 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,240 this is going to be PlayStation showcase so bad. 853 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,080 So I want to see what your first party is doing. 854 00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,280 You spend so much energy online talking about first party first 855 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,120 party first party exclusivity exclusivity exclusivity. 856 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,360 Every freaking 90% of the games are on PC, so exclusive is 857 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,360 bullshit when they don't come to PC, you're having a wank when it 858 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,240 comes to PC. Oh, there's this standard and 859 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,640 then you talk about first party, first party, first party, first 860 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,160 party. Where's the new showcase? 861 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,720 This is a showcase event. Show me the games. 862 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,840 What? Fucking splash screen logo. 863 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,880 The same thing that you make fun of the Nintendo with Metroid, 864 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,120 with Xbox. They show their logo, they show 865 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,800 you a freaking logo. And then they show you that this 866 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,840 is and their remix, the remix of the old games. 867 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,760 And you may love it. And they're still early in 868 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,720 development, so you're going to see them When? 869 00:43:43,720 --> 00:43:47,400 In three years? Four years, it's like Sony for 870 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:48,480 me. It's just like you're just 871 00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:52,120 they've cashed it in. They did this taking the part of 872 00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,400 least resistance. They're going back in their back 873 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:55,840 portfolio. We're going to produce this 874 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,280 stuff and I'm like, fuck's sake, man. 875 00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,600 And that's what pisses me off about the lack of exclusivity 876 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:07,040 and Xbox not being forsaking it because I guarantee you if Xbox 877 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,040 maintain that forget God exclusive. 878 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,880 If they maintain a set, all this shit is going to be exclusive to 879 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,600 us. This is wouldn't be the Sony you 880 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:19,160 would have they would be scrambling scrambling hard to 881 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:24,240 make sure that they do something to to distinguish themselves in 882 00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:25,800 the first party stake. And to me it was just a 883 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,760 reflection of this is safe Sony come back online. 884 00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,240 People are still wanking it off because they're so Stockholm 885 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,720 syndrome has set in on the PlayStation fanbase that they've 886 00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,800 been coddled by so many successive shit shows and 887 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,800 lukewarm shows that anything little and this was their best 888 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,160 show. This was their best show in a 889 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,080 very long time. But then you say I will give it 890 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,440 a 10 out of 10. I'm like, bro, your standards 891 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,640 are gone. You're finished. 892 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,880 You're now accepted me. That's it. 893 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,160 So don't ever bark or open your mouth when it comes to like an 894 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,040 Xbox or something and they'll just do the exact same thing. 895 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,600 Sorry. So, so 222 things on that. 896 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,520 I, I, I hear what you're saying. And and again in the I actually 897 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,840 just talked about this in video earlier this week and the old 898 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,520 way all of this gaming business happened. 899 00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,960 You're 100% correct. Xbox days exclusive. 900 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,960 These IPS are exclusive. It pushes competition. 901 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,440 PlayStation have way more incentive to be aggressive with 902 00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:28,120 their first party lineup. So 100% agree with you. 903 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,600 I think the second part of this that that people need to 904 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:37,440 understand is don't forget there was allegedly mandate within 905 00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:40,680 PlayStation, they were pushing hard on live service games. 906 00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,440 So a lot of these studios were incubating live service stuff. 907 00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:47,000 As we know, a lot of that shit got cancelled. 908 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:52,080 So now these studios are having to cortical start over new IP, 909 00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,360 you know, whatever SQL IP, whatever they're doing takes 910 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,240 time. So they're, they're simply not 911 00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:01,040 ready to show off anything. I mean, think of, think of this 912 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:04,720 as an example, Naughty Dog, if Naughty Dog wasn't doing Last of 913 00:46:04,720 --> 00:46:07,320 Us factions. Intergalactic was probably out 914 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,360 two years ago as an example, right? 915 00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:12,160 What they were, they got cancelled. 916 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,920 Now they had to refocus and do something else. 917 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:19,280 Really the only, the only two consistent studios that 918 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,520 PlayStation has had this generation, ironically enough, 919 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:23,360 has been Insomniac and House Mark. 920 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,800 Is it everyone else has had to reconfigure and do other things. 921 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:30,320 So what does PlayStation had to do? 922 00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,600 They've leaned heavily on their, their, their, the partnership 923 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,160 stuff. Yeah, the partnership stuff, 924 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,000 time exclusivity and obviously a lot of the third party stuff 925 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,640 that they've been getting in and because Xbox, but their business 926 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:49,600 model, they got 90 + 1,000,000 PS fives out there in the world, 927 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,720 right? Xbox is putting Forza Horizon 6 928 00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:56,320 and fabled and Gear Z day and all this stuff there. 929 00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,800 So sure, they're not getting the 70%, but they're getting the 30% 930 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,680 cut off of this all this stuff or whatever. 931 00:47:01,720 --> 00:47:04,440 You know, they wind up negotiating with with Xbox on 932 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,360 that. So it's almost like they're by 933 00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,000 like here. Here's my theory and I'm I'm 934 00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,120 sure people PlayStation people get mad at me for saying this. 935 00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,720 I think PlayStation is just bidding time for PS6. 936 00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,640 I think all these studios you're asking, but what the hell are 937 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,160 they working on? I think they're working on stuff 938 00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,280 for PlayStation 6. So I think this is more about 939 00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:29,920 20282029 than it is 20262027 for them. 940 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:35,040 So like I personally think intergalactic is a cross 941 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,400 gentile. I think it I think it comes out 942 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,920 with PlayStation 6. So I think you're going to get 943 00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:44,200 Wolverine now spider man 3. All the other stuff is that's 944 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,520 PlayStation 6 and of whatever other I new IPS that they're 945 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,600 working on. I think that stuff is 946 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:54,000 PlayStation that sticks and ultimately they don't have the 947 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,720 urgency is I guess is the word I'm looking for right now 948 00:47:57,720 --> 00:48:00,520 because the competition has changed. 949 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,760 Xbox said we tap out, we tapped out on hardware. 950 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,120 We're not doing that anymore. We're not going to try and keep. 951 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,360 We're not going to look. Phil said when he was on with 952 00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:13,920 us, we can't out console PlayStation, doesn't matter if 953 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,240 Starfield is 11 out of 10 and all that stuff that he said. 954 00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:20,600 So the acquired Activision, like, like, let me back up just 955 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,520 a second since we bring in an Xbox, just a second. 956 00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,720 The reason I get so much shit because people love to pull the 957 00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:29,760 videos from 2020-2021 when I was talking about as exclusivity, 958 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,560 all that stuff, right? Because when they acquired 959 00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,520 Bethesda, they were still doing exclusivity. 960 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,240 It was Activision that changed everything for them. 961 00:48:37,240 --> 00:48:39,760 And obviously there's all this AI shit that's going on and all 962 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,240 that. So now y'all better make some 963 00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:46,000 money. Well we're not selling hardware 964 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:50,520 at at a big enough clip. All right start putting Let's 965 00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:53,600 experiment just four games. Let's see what we can do on 966 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,400 PlayStation. And the answer was people on 967 00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:00,240 PlayStation will buy Xbox games. They may not want to buy your 968 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,160 hardware, but they're sure as hell we'll play your game. 969 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,600 See, a thieves has been a hit for them. 970 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,200 Forza Horizon 5 has been a runaway hit for them. 971 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,000 So much so that when Forza Horizon 6 comes out, I'm telling 972 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:15,680 you now, outside of Call of Duty or GTA6, it's going to be top 973 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,840 five selling game. PlayStation Easily. 974 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,680 Easily. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 975 00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:23,200 So I mean, this is just where we are now. 976 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,680 That's what I mean, but that's what they're playing it safe and 977 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,880 this is the abuse and this is where it kind of extension of 978 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,960 your toxic positivity stuff. I completely understand and I 979 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,040 could agree with you in your the way you've evaluated the state 980 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:41,040 of affairs and market and while Xbox's failings have led to 981 00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:44,640 where we are now and and expose. Pause, pause, pause, pause. 982 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,160 See, I I watch the chat while I'm on here. 983 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:50,120 Salute Tron Z, whatever the fuck your name is. 984 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,160 I never said that. You will never find a clip where 985 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:55,760 I was ever actively rooting for Activision. 986 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,840 If anything I said this is a red flag no more after this. 987 00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:03,040 It's too much. I said it then pull up every X 988 00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,880 cast I was on during that time and never said that. 989 00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:07,520 So this is what I go I talk about again. 990 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,040 People make up shit in their head with no actual facts 991 00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,240 because that's the narrative they want to run with. 992 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,840 I've never said that about Activision ever. 993 00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,760 Continue. Please transit the chat. 994 00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:25,480 Loving it. Yeah, but okay, that's the 995 00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,640 market assessment. That's how Xbox did it. 996 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,080 PlayStation. They have more cancelled games 997 00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:35,000 than announced games and they fucked up and that's the excuse 998 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:38,080 for what they're doing. But then when everyone comes out 999 00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:40,360 and they showed like Canaan, someone was like 10 out of 10 1000 00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,200 already. That's it. 1001 00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:45,480 These guys have phoned it in. The habitual guys who bark 1002 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:49,000 online, talk about standards, comparative or Xbox, 1003 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,280 PlayStation, and they freaking given this 10 out or 10 already. 1004 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:54,840 That means these people will never with the exception of Jack 1005 00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,200 Move. Jack Move gave me a 10 out of 1006 00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,360 10. He's been very critical. 1007 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,880 I don't know where he's coming from, but poor guy feels, I feel 1008 00:50:59,880 --> 00:51:03,200 like he's been beaten so much. He wants to be a little bit 1009 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:04,480 positive. Well, he'll just jump off a 1010 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,680 Cliff. So Jack Booth, we need to chat. 1011 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,520 I don't know why you gave it 10 out of 10, but for the rest of 1012 00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,840 the people giving it 10 out of 10, that is an extension of the 1013 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,880 toxic positivity. Because that suggests to me that 1014 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,760 you've adjusted your standards so much that you will accept 1015 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:19,760 anything from PlayStation when it comes to a showcase. 1016 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,960 There was shit in your mouth and you'll call it A5, But if this 1017 00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:25,960 is a 10 and you don't give a shit about your first part and 1018 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:28,840 half the stuff you already know, so then, then fuck it. 1019 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,160 Then for me, it's just like I came online. 1020 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:37,120 I'm like 10/10/10 What what are you talking about 10 like your 1021 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,160 market leader just sitting here fucking just coasting like it's 1022 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,720 Colin McGregor. But the reality is Khabib is 1023 00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,200 choking the shit and and that's it. 1024 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,320 I'm just watching this fucking basic lazy bollocks and the the 1025 00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,120 3rd place struggling Xbox even they're doing a better job of 1026 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,720 getting you excited about their first party lineup. 1027 00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:01,680 I'm sorry, like it's so it's like, I mean you, you've set 1028 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,680 your standards now fanboys, that is a 10 for you. 1029 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,680 So I want to see your 10 out of 10 stacked up against the summer 1030 00:52:08,680 --> 00:52:10,920 showcase, which might be shit for Xbox, who God knows what. 1031 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,600 But if that's you'll be happy for a logo reveal, you'll be for 1032 00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,360 remakes 3 that are early in development and you're going to 1033 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,160 fucking love Halo. The remake. 1034 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,720 It's coming out on PlayStation, right? 1035 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:26,080 And then you're going to suck the Dick out of it when they 1036 00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,360 show it at the summer showcase because it's coming out this 1037 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,160 year. So that's it might even be a 1038 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,080 shadow drop. The God of warfare kid, two sons 1039 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,000 of Sparta. Now that Oliver crackhead Darko 1040 00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:38,720 just stalks me or like doesn't play video games but he 1041 00:52:38,720 --> 00:52:43,800 literally tweets all day. Went back to 2024, said I like 1042 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,280 it when they go I like AA's and and Indies which I still do. 1043 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:51,080 But then he's posted my reaction to the next big God of War, the 1044 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:55,600 final reveal and it's that 2D fucking God of War game and I'm 1045 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:57,360 laughing and laughing my ass off. 1046 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,680 I'm like that's it Rev Just because I like Indies and AA's 1047 00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,120 doesn't mean I have to like every Indian AA. 1048 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,440 Especially when you big up the next big reveal and your final 1049 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,400 thing is a 2D game that looks like ass, straight ass. 1050 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,480 It looks like shit. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm 1051 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,120 wrong. I played Reternal that same day 1052 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,760 and it's just nice. It was beautiful. 1053 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,760 It's made by an indie team. This passion project from a 1054 00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:24,280 studio that's taken on from, you know, we're just signed off by 1055 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:25,880 Sony. Santa Monica produced that and 1056 00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,200 it doesn't even look good. Maybe it plays good. 1057 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:32,160 I want to see the reviews, and I mean actual reviews for people 1058 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,480 on that game, not the five stars that everyone gave it on the 1059 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,080 store the moment it came out because it's been carried by the 1060 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,960 God of War name. I'm already side eyeing God of 1061 00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:43,000 War discourse because of Ragnarok, which I fucking 1062 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,360 dropped because halfway through the game meandered like shit and 1063 00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:48,440 I feel like I need to go back and complete it because I think 1064 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,480 people fucking glaze the shit out of it and I need to play. 1065 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,200 And I don't think it deserves the same Macri score that I did 1066 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,240 of 2018, which I loved. But we'll see. 1067 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,040 I want to see so whether that game is good. 1068 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:06,120 So Full disclosure, PlayStation did send me a code for the game, 1069 00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:07,960 so I haven't been playing it and what do you think? 1070 00:54:07,960 --> 00:54:14,280 And I've not finished it yet, but I I will say it's, it's OK. 1071 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,760 It's not the greatest thing ever in the world, but it's kind of 1072 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,040 cool to see something in the God of War universe. 1073 00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,040 I think. I think 30 bucks is too much. 1074 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:23,080 So I think it should have been 20. 1075 00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:25,560 That's kind of what I think now if. 1076 00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,520 How is that £30? Is that £40 here? 1077 00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:30,400 I don't know, it sounds £30 for that. 1078 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,240 Yeah, yeah, I don't know. But I'm, I'm leaning I guess if 1079 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:39,000 I would say now, 7 out of 10 up in there somewhere probably, you 1080 00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,480 know, I think obviously if you're a God of warfare, maybe 1081 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,880 somebody want to check out. But I think it should have been 1082 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:46,520 20 bucks or it should have just been like on PlayStation Plus 1083 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:53,120 Premium or something, right? It better be fucking good, 1084 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,280 Paris. You got it. 1085 00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,960 It's fine. You weren't one of those glazing 1086 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,960 the shit out of it. The people who did they were 1087 00:54:59,960 --> 00:55:03,720 like fucking Sony Cook. I want to see I want to maybe I 1088 00:55:03,720 --> 00:55:05,640 should play that. I've got a decent backlog of 1089 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:09,120 good looking games that I want to play like replaced. 1090 00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:13,520 Those guys don't like AA's. I'm playing I'm playing AA's in 1091 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,400 Indies mostly. I'm not I'm I haven't arc 1092 00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,240 Raiders, I guess is a AA plus, but it kind of almost veers 1093 00:55:21,240 --> 00:55:25,920 towards the AAA territory. But I'm playing Cronos as AA and 1094 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:33,040 then I've got Hades too but the glazing was was ridiculous. 1095 00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:36,040 When Jaffe came out and said what he did, I was like, this is 1096 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,920 the guy guy who created God of War is not allowed to talk about 1097 00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,800 it and everyone gets beefing him. 1098 00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:46,600 What have they created? The only thing you guys are 1099 00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,800 creating they're coming after David Jaffe is what the 1100 00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,480 ejaculate that resides on your hentai pillow bro, you are not 1101 00:55:52,560 --> 00:55:55,960 in a position to talk against the creator of God of War about 1102 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,280 God of War, bro, and what is God of War like you guys? 1103 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,920 Oh, he's living a pass glories. Oh, he's lost his shit. 1104 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:04,920 David Jaffe does say some wild shit, but bro, the most things 1105 00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:08,360 you created is literally the spank bank that is your sock 1106 00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,600 that resides underneath your fucking desk bro. 1107 00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,600 It's how are you chatting so much bro? 1108 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,960 It's it's crazy, but that was God of War. 1109 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,760 What else was good That's this fucking 10 out of 10 show? 1110 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,040 What was good? Tell me, did Paris tell me what 1111 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,440 was good in this 10 out of 10 show bro? 1112 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,640 That Castlevania game man. Castlevania One thing with 1113 00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:32,880 Konami, these bastards fucked off from the gaming scene 1114 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,120 because they like Mr Pachinko machines and I've never really 1115 00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,960 like been all like, all right, You dickheads think we're just 1116 00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:42,160 like a little side pieces. You just cussed us out. 1117 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,640 That came back in again because the Pacheco jig clearly didn't 1118 00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,680 work. So I'm not that hot on Konami, 1119 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:54,320 but the Konami waiting is quite, I think, influential. 1120 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:57,080 It's maybe perhaps the reason why there's a disparity in 1121 00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,880 between my perception of the show and a lot of other 1122 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,200 people's. But Konami thinks Castlevania 1123 00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:06,200 looks good. Castlevania looks good and even 1124 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,440 said it looked good. Then there's Mel Gear Solid 4, 1125 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,640 another remake is coming to Xbox and PC and all that. 1126 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,400 I don't give a shit again. I'm just like, I'm so sick and 1127 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,080 tired of that. And it's Konami. 1128 00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,760 It's like. Well, I think people are excited 1129 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,080 about that. That has finally been decoupled 1130 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,080 from the PS3 and he was literally locked in gaol on the 1131 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:26,800 PS3. So I think that's where the 1132 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:29,560 excitement like personally didn't like MGS 4. 1133 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,960 So I'm like whatever, but I get it. 1134 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,840 I get the excitement. I thought, I thought Kena 1135 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:38,960 control. Which we've seen already, but 1136 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,520 OK. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1137 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,760 All that look great. We've already seen Resident Evil 1138 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,160 and Pragmatic 10 million times. So that was, you know, I, I. 1139 00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:50,920 Silent Hill, that was good. Yeah, I mean that look looks 1140 00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:52,640 pretty good as well. So that's what I mean. 1141 00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,400 There was a lot of great third party stuff. 1142 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:58,000 You know, I, I think the criticism would be their their 1143 00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,440 own first party stuff, which I think about, I tell you this, 1144 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,040 they were very smart to get ahead of the state of play and 1145 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:09,640 show that Horizon Co-op thing and not put in the state of play 1146 00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:12,560 because that would have dominated the conversation. 1147 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,720 The regardless of what you think of it, Me personally, not a fan 1148 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,440 of the art style. We'll freaking see. 1149 00:58:19,640 --> 00:58:26,720 But visually I was like, really? Bro that but that purple, that 1150 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:31,480 weird colours palette has been done to death and I'm sorry 1151 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:36,400 brother Horizon. I swear Horizon is just viewed 1152 00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,400 I, I, I don't know, Sony reps that franchise way too much. 1153 00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,000 And because you might say, well, the sales make sure confirm that 1154 00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:46,720 it's because you bundled the shit out of that game with the 1155 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,240 consoles, man, I don't know. And I'm not saying that visually 1156 00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:53,200 it's astounding. It's just one of the best 1157 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:58,720 looking games out there. But alloy so dry play I couldn't 1158 00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,120 even get into. I said fuck this and a lot of 1159 00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,240 people say that. I just think Horizon is just 1160 00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,280 being gassed up a bit too much. Why this multiplayer? 1161 00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,440 But then this Co-op multiplayer life service, whatever bullshit 1162 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,920 that you're making and it looks so generic and why on Horizon 1163 00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,880 and I, I, I bro, you know what it is? 1164 00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,160 I respect. I put more respect on Sony's 1165 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,800 first party studios than Sony fanboys do because these guys 1166 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:27,840 will just take it in the ass, no Vaseline and just accept 1167 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,080 everything. I want a kill zone. 1168 00:59:30,240 --> 00:59:33,480 I think Gorilla Games are massively talented the way they 1169 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,880 produce Ryzen's vision was. One of the best in the world. 1170 00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,760 And every time I say just make another kill zone, people are Oh 1171 00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,440 no, they tried it and it failed. I'm like what the fuck? 1172 00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:44,640 They they made kill. Look at the look at the 1173 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:49,040 Metacritic score of kill zone 2. That was do you know how good it 1174 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,920 looks? Even to this day, just because 1175 00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,600 they failed with Shadowfall, that's it, they give up. 1176 00:59:53,720 --> 00:59:56,880 You want another Horizon game? You want another multiplayer? 1177 00:59:56,880 --> 00:59:59,760 Whatever the fuck that is in Horizon mode, who cares? 1178 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:01,680 Let. Me ask you this question, 1179 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,560 though, let me ask you this question to to to that point. 1180 01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:08,000 I, I, I get you with, with Killzone, but what if that's not 1181 01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,000 what gorilla wants to do? So are you going to force him to 1182 01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:12,480 do it, or are you going to hand the Killzone to another another 1183 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,040 studio and then it doesn't live up to the pedigree of what you 1184 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:18,760 want it to be? If Gorilla games don't want to 1185 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,760 work on kill zone and they shouldn't work on kill zone. 1186 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,000 And that's my point. And they still want to work on 1187 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,160 the Horizon games. Then every developer at Gorilla 1188 01:00:29,160 --> 01:00:31,240 Games should get a mandatory lobotomy. 1189 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:40,480 Fucking it's so fucking dry. Brav. 1190 01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:45,360 Oh my days. But you know what I see? 1191 01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:46,960 I like Horizon. I like. 1192 01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,560 It though, no. No, no, no, let me ask you this. 1193 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,760 Just just speak sticking on that for just a second, because 1194 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:55,280 remember I was talking about I think Insomniac and House Mark 1195 01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,040 have kind of been been the the standout since generation for 1196 01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:00,720 them. I mean, Gorilla is, you know, an 1197 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,640 S tier studio. Let's let's not get that twisted 1198 01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:05,640 at all. But we clearly, you know, Herman 1199 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,560 Holtz, obviously that's where he started all that stuff. 1200 01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:10,640 They obviously Horizon was a thing for them. 1201 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,560 And I'll ask, I ask you this question because if I'm wrong, 1202 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,360 you know that I'm sure the chat will correct me. 1203 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:24,000 But Horizon is probably the last new IP that they've created 1204 01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:26,560 that's been hit. Yeah. 1205 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:27,880 I can't, I can't think of anything else. 1206 01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:28,680 Right. Hey, Lloyd. 1207 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,000 I mean, what else has there been? 1208 01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:32,880 And I'm not saying that in a negative way. 1209 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,040 I'm just saying that as the reality of it. 1210 01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,560 I can't think of anything else that they've created because of 1211 01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:41,600 what was Horizon 2018 we've created since then that's been a 1212 01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,880 standout new IP for them, like a a mascot, you know, franchise or 1213 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:47,920 whatever for them. I mean return all. 1214 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,840 As much as we love it, no it hasn't sold huge. 1215 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,080 So what? Is it now it's coming from an 1216 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,560 indie studio. So and house mark were indie, I 1217 01:01:57,560 --> 01:02:02,240 guess now it's AA, but with Horizon, they made two games. 1218 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,560 So Guerrilla Games have made two games that are successful, quote 1219 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:08,440 unquote successful 2018 on its own merits. 1220 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:13,440 And I think I do feel like and and perhaps it wasn't just the 1221 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:17,200 bundles, perhaps it you know, because forbidden that's not a 1222 01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:19,600 terrible game. Critically did well. 1223 01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:24,000 That looks beautiful. I just feel like. 1224 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,840 Somewhat goes to Sashima that that that one. 1225 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:29,760 Obviously the Ghost franchise is big for them, somebody says. 1226 01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:31,680 Yeah, because Sashima is though. Yeah, amazing. 1227 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,160 And I just feel like they're leaning heavily on Horizon and 1228 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,640 you'll see diminishing returns. I think the only way Horizon, 1229 01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,400 the next Horizon sells well is again, if it's APS 6 launch 1230 01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:43,920 style. I think that's the only way I'll 1231 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,120 sell well in a bigger level on a level that matches, say 1232 01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:51,360 something that Forbidden WI. Just feel like there's a bit of 1233 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,840 fatigue set in on that. I think there's AI, don't know. 1234 01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,320 Well, you also have to think of this too, because I know Jason 1235 01:02:58,320 --> 01:03:01,800 Schreier essentially alluded that we're a long ways off from 1236 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,880 Horizon 3, which goes back to the point I think that it's a 1237 01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:10,200 PlayStation Six title. But also this, this Co-op game 1238 01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,640 has probably been a development for a while and you would think 1239 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:16,520 of all their big studios they really want to cancel something 1240 01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,640 that Gorillas been working on for X amount of years. 1241 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,600 I. Don't suggest they cancel it. 1242 01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:28,880 I don't suggest they cancel it. But yeah, the poll chat, 38% of 1243 01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:33,920 you said it was AB rated show agree with Paris, 37 said C, So 1244 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,360 it's about B&C. That's just fine. 1245 01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:40,960 Got it for Sophie. Thanks so much for the five. 1246 01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:44,000 Konami owns Yu-gi-oh, one of the top three most popular trading 1247 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,040 card games TCG worldwide, consistently ranking behind 1248 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:52,560 Magic the Gathering and Pokémon. OK. 1249 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:55,800 What do you want me to do with that Super chat, Brav? 1250 01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,480 Konami. Konami are doing that. 1251 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,800 OK, fuck it. So So what? 1252 01:04:02,200 --> 01:04:06,520 Konami suck, but the Silent Hill might be good, that's all. 1253 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:09,040 And Castlevania that that that did look good. 1254 01:04:09,480 --> 01:04:13,200 But so I think Konami waiting played a big part in it. 1255 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,920 But there there again, third party titles. 1256 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:18,600 I when I see a PlayStation state of play PlayStation showcase, I 1257 01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:20,800 want to see something from PlayStation. 1258 01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:23,640 I don't want to see third parties, a rerun of Jeff 1259 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:27,080 Keeley's show. I think, I think it's the 1260 01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,640 naming. If the good thing about Xbox has 1261 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,360 a partner showcase, so you're not expecting Xbox games there. 1262 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,800 I think if it wasn't called State of Play and it was called 1263 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,120 something else, I think people would been a little more 1264 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,560 receptive to it because like I said, the third party games, 1265 01:04:41,560 --> 01:04:43,640 like the vast majority of them all look great. 1266 01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,240 They're all it's all shit up. Right now, Jeff Keeley's show 1267 01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:49,880 was amazing but people rinsed it because of the way it ended. 1268 01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:52,240 But they showed half the games you're talking about now, apart 1269 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:54,160 from that chicken game which looked really good. 1270 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:59,440 I forgot about the chicken. But it throws me off, man. 1271 01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,920 That freaking chicken, that game, I don't get it. 1272 01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:06,000 Like, I want to like it so much. It's so epic, so violent, and 1273 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,720 I've got masses of enemies on screen and I'm then you're this 1274 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,320 chicken. I'm like, that's kind of putting 1275 01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,720 me off, man. It's a fucking chicken. 1276 01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:17,480 Like at least I don't know about pick a cooler animal than a 1277 01:05:17,480 --> 01:05:18,640 chicken. It's just weird. 1278 01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:21,880 I can't take you serious that Chicken Little isn't so chicko 1279 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,600 anymore. It's just he's been training 1280 01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:26,680 with Paris Lily at the gym and now he's fucking ripped. 1281 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,080 But also Alphons was telling me that it might be like a Dynasty 1282 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,080 Warriors type game and it's just like, oh, right. 1283 01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:34,160 Which I may not be that interested in. 1284 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:37,200 What else was there apart from chicken game? 1285 01:05:38,080 --> 01:05:43,360 What the legacy of Kane stuff? Again, more remasters and same 1286 01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:44,600 shit. It's like that's one thing. 1287 01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:48,840 Just remasters, remakes and it's just like, bruv, if that's all 1288 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:53,440 it is, then fuck it, man, I I I don't know and, and I'm the bad 1289 01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,160 guy. What have I done? 1290 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:59,240 No, I genuinely was genuinely thought it was it was like right 1291 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,800 I I wanted to see look irrespective of all my bullshit 1292 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,520 and I love shit flinging shit at PlayStation guys. 1293 01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:08,840 You deserve it, you toxic pieces of shit. 1294 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,560 You deserve it. Trust me. 1295 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:17,560 But unlike you bastards, I actually am excited for games 1296 01:06:17,560 --> 01:06:21,320 that I PlayStation show that are good like this, I'm excited for. 1297 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,280 I'm the outlier here when it comes to Marathon. 1298 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,200 That's my money I spent to buy this. 1299 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,600 I keep vouching for it. I get shit on the neck from 1300 01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,200 everyone about this game. If this game fails, they was 1301 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:33,120 going to come at me. Gaz you fucking idiot. 1302 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:38,040 You're basically vouching for Concorde 2.0 with this game and 1303 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:41,280 I'm just saying I want to be. My, my thing it look, it's 1304 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:42,480 Bungie. So you know, the gunplay is 1305 01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,560 going to be good. The gunplay was even good in the 1306 01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:47,440 in the in the in the alpha last year. 1307 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,000 So that's not going to be the issue. 1308 01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,720 It was just there was not a lot going on in the world, not to 1309 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,240 mention the proximity chat. It was like all these quality of 1310 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,080 life things. It was like, why are these not 1311 01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:58,760 here type things? Right. 1312 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,080 And I think this is what the delay hopefully is fixed. 1313 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,360 I mean, we'll say, like you said, I'm rooting for it. 1314 01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,040 I want to play it, I want it to be good. 1315 01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,160 But if it's not, I don't think anyone's going to be surprised. 1316 01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:13,840 And that's kind of just this weird place that Bungie is in 1317 01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:18,120 because we're not used to Bungie of all studios, you know, having 1318 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,600 something where we got to question it. 1319 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,720 We're like, is it going to be good day one? 1320 01:07:21,720 --> 01:07:26,560 I mean we'll see honestly, this stress test beta, whatever you 1321 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,560 want to call it on the 26th is make a break for them because 1322 01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,920 that's the first impression because that's the free entry 1323 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:37,480 into anyone that's curious about this playing it, you know, just 1324 01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,240 from streamers showing it off. If it's not good, people aren't 1325 01:07:41,240 --> 01:07:43,520 going to go buy it on the 5th. That's just. 1326 01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:47,720 Two days before the two or three days before the release of it or 1327 01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:50,240 ends two or three days before that's going to be you're right. 1328 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:51,880 That is going to be make or break, man. 1329 01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:56,360 And the reason why I'm excited for it is exactly what you said, 1330 01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,920 the bungee gameplay and I see the gunplay and the gunplay 1331 01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:01,720 looks good. So I'm like, please be good, 1332 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,320 man. I I'm so happy that multiplayer 1333 01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,840 games and the tail end of yes, last year started to finally 1334 01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,960 make some memes with battlefield 6, which has kind of gone down a 1335 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,920 little bit and partly thanks to arc Raiders that just 1336 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:17,920 skyrocketed. But hopefully, hopefully we'll 1337 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,920 you know, marathon will make it, but you're absolutely spot on. 1338 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:24,000 It's going to be fucking, it's going to be hard, it's going to 1339 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:25,760 be hard. And we saw with the High God 1340 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:29,200 they there there's no with with multiplayer titles compared to 1341 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,520 single player games, the standard is much higher. 1342 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:34,680 It's so saturated and you're fighting for your survival. 1343 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:38,240 Depends on an active user base, not just on day one, but 1344 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,200 consistently showing up over a sustained period of time. 1345 01:08:41,319 --> 01:08:43,760 And if they don't turn up, you will fail. 1346 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:47,120 And even if with High God you make a decent game, a decent 1347 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,479 game is not good enough. You need to make an exceptional 1348 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,560 game to catch the zeitgeist of players when it comes to 1349 01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:57,920 multiplayer. Yeah, man, I mean, it's well, I 1350 01:08:57,960 --> 01:09:01,520 said we're just in this, this era right now where, I mean, 1351 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,840 unless you're Fortnite, live service isn't really 1352 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,000 sustainable. It's like you either got to be a 1353 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:11,279 mega hit or you're a failure. There's like no in between this. 1354 01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:16,359 Is why when high gods developers said well what are small 1355 01:09:16,359 --> 01:09:18,439 dedicated niche of gamers I'm like that's. 1356 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,120 Not going to work. And how small are we talking 1357 01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:22,240 bro? Because if you're not going to 1358 01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:26,800 consist at least ten 15,000 or 20,000 really how are you going 1359 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:28,760 to make money? You have to aggressive road map 1360 01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,720 of like content and seasons for this to be viable. 1361 01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,160 You need to move up now. If you're high guard developers, 1362 01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,479 you'll be listening. I think you had like a three 1363 01:09:37,479 --> 01:09:39,640 month thing. Push that down to one month. 1364 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,279 Just work hard to get the season out. 1365 01:09:42,600 --> 01:09:44,680 It's going to fail. You've got skeleton crew, so 1366 01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:48,880 it's not even possible, but push that squeeze that road map down 1367 01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,479 to like condense it to freaking three seasons in one go in one 1368 01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,120 month. Otherwise that thing is about to 1369 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,680 die and it it it might be too late already. 1370 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,560 Before we go, we have a few a few topics to discuss very 1371 01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:03,640 quickly beyond just as a segment. 1372 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,720 Generally. I look bro, I thought it was 1373 01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,360 shit. No, it wasn't shit. 1374 01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:11,440 It was good. It was CC decent is a decent 1375 01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:14,440 show. If you look at it not actually 1376 01:10:14,440 --> 01:10:16,440 like a PlayStation show. You treat it like a third party 1377 01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:19,640 show, but if you're looking for PlayStation goodness you to 1378 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:23,560 match all the noise and all the you know, the bullshit that we 1379 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,880 see online and all the freaking chess beating out. 1380 01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:30,920 I'm sorry and PlayStation guys calling this a 10 out of 10. 1381 01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:34,280 Your standards have dropped so fucking far down that your 1382 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:38,880 that's you know Stockholm syndrome is set in and I can't 1383 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,280 take you seriously. Before we go we have a few 1384 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,240 documents including the glow up. We talk about multiplayer games. 1385 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,080 Not OK, but this is quite a good Segway. 1386 01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,160 Well there is one game that defined the odds and it's 1387 01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,440 Overwatch two. Bro Overwatch 2 has come back 1388 01:10:56,440 --> 01:11:02,520 from the freaking grave lad and is making memes by dropping the 1389 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:08,560 number two out of his name. Overwatch just killed it The I 1390 01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:13,960 think it peaked at 165,000 players just on steam alone at 1391 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,640 the same time. That's crazy considering most of 1392 01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,080 the players don't even use steam to access Overwatch. 1393 01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,880 They play on battle now and they are they're having healthy the 1394 01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,640 top 10 now. They're doing really well and 1395 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,800 the reason why is because, not just because of a visual 1396 01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:32,040 dropping out the 2, they change the model for the game whereby 1397 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:36,920 they are now free to play and they've got new heroes in there. 1398 01:11:37,800 --> 01:11:40,400 And I hadn't played it. I bought Overwatch 2 day one, 1399 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,760 the deluxe edition, played it and I thought, what the fuck? 1400 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,600 Where's the two in this? Obviously they dropped the story 1401 01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:48,320 mode, which was what we were looking forward to because the 1402 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,440 characters and the characters designs were so, so compelling. 1403 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,240 But then they stripped it back and the reason why Overwatch 2 1404 01:11:55,240 --> 01:11:59,120 was so shit was because of Bobby Kotick. 1405 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,560 Bobby Kotick is the reason why Overwatch 2 was even made. 1406 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:07,160 The developers inside Blizzard were pissed at the fact that 1407 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,400 this guy was forcing them to make Overwatch too, which ended 1408 01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:15,400 up being an absolute shit show. And then now Overwatch 1409 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:20,640 represents or what the developers actually want for the 1410 01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,240 IP. They've come back. 1411 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,560 They said, look, let's just strip up this bullshit, man. 1412 01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,320 Let's decouple all the legacy of the nonsense that we had to deal 1413 01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,680 with with Bobby Kotick and let us sort it out. 1414 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,960 So you got to give a little bit of props to I guess to Microsoft 1415 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:35,360 there as well to having some commitment. 1416 01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,600 Obviously they they'll be stupid to forsake Overwatch, but 1417 01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:43,680 Blizzard, there's more to Blizzard rather than Xbox for 1418 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,360 going back looking at it and making changing the model, 1419 01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:52,640 introducing content and seeing massive rise. 1420 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:56,000 Now whether it's sustainable for A and that's thing it will it 1421 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:58,600 will it do you think it will survive? 1422 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,520 Do you think there's Overwatch 2 is back in the sustainable 1423 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:03,480 level? Appreciable level? 1424 01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:07,360 I I think it might be what and, and I'm blanking on her Latin 1425 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:11,400 name, but Joanna, Oh my God she runs Blizzard now. 1426 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,880 OK, I forgot that. I I'm, I'm blanking on the name. 1427 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,960 I apologise, but she's a corn gold rising star in this 1428 01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:21,160 industry, right? Like it would not shock me if 1429 01:13:21,160 --> 01:13:23,720 she's running Xbox or PlayStation or something one 1430 01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,200 day. But I mean, I think that's where 1431 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,480 it starts. It starts with that leadership 1432 01:13:28,480 --> 01:13:31,840 at the top and understanding, all right, what made this game 1433 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:33,760 good? And they're getting, like you 1434 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,080 said, they're getting back the basics. 1435 01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,160 They're doing what people want. And I think that's also part of 1436 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:39,800 the problem in this industry overall. 1437 01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,160 Listen to your audience, listen to what they want and make the 1438 01:13:43,160 --> 01:13:46,680 games that they actually are willing to to pay for and want 1439 01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:49,680 to play. So, yeah, I do think these 1440 01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:51,200 changes are going to be huge for it. 1441 01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,440 I do think they're going to have a sustainable audience as a 1442 01:13:53,440 --> 01:13:54,560 result. So good for. 1443 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:58,520 And look, my daughter, that's all she plays. 1444 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,200 She that and Marvel Rivals is overwatching Marvel Rivals. 1445 01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,120 So she's super excited about this. 1446 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:06,800 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that type of person, they're 1447 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,600 they're loving this and they're going to stick around. 1448 01:14:08,600 --> 01:14:10,960 They're going to keep playing. And it's funny you mentioned 1449 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,360 actually Marvel rivals. I'm glad you did because that's 1450 01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:16,240 the reason why Overwatch is so good now. 1451 01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:20,240 Beauty of competition, Paris, it's they went back, looked at 1452 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,600 that shit and said OK. And then they were obviously 1453 01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:25,680 galvanised by that competition and the prosper and the reality 1454 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,080 of rivals existing that kind of set them back to the drawing 1455 01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:33,400 board and look, you know, so. You bring up a good point bring 1456 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:36,680 bring it back to what you're saying about the PlayStation and 1457 01:14:36,680 --> 01:14:39,600 not the competition and playing it safe. 1458 01:14:40,400 --> 01:14:44,680 See, that's where I think the new competition is going to have 1459 01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:46,680 to happen. It's not going to be about oh, I 1460 01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,520 got to get this hardware and exclusivity. 1461 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:53,240 It's about the games themselves having to compete and fighting 1462 01:14:53,240 --> 01:14:54,960 for your time. I think you know this has been a 1463 01:14:54,960 --> 01:14:56,560 conversation over the last couple years. 1464 01:14:56,800 --> 01:15:00,280 Time is the most precious commodity in this entire 1465 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:02,600 industry because there's so much shit that's fighting for your 1466 01:15:02,600 --> 01:15:04,240 time. And it's not just in gaming. 1467 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,160 There's other stuff fighting for your time too. 1468 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,800 Constantly. When you think about it, The Who 1469 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,840 said that, I think it was Matt Booty or something, said Tick 1470 01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:12,160 Tock and everybody got mad at him. 1471 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:13,720 But he was right. It's true. 1472 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,880 It's true on reels all the fucking time. 1473 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:16,160 What? Do. 1474 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,120 You think I get my memes from It's just on reels? 1475 01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,720 Yeah, it's true, but people go get pissed at him. 1476 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,560 But it's true, people are, but that doesn't discount the fact 1477 01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,920 that you know, you know, platform level competition 1478 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:32,360 really did rise. The the the raise the tides of 1479 01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,040 competition much more. That disappears. 1480 01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:37,520 It takes away that platform level kind of galvanization of 1481 01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:41,280 competition, but still doesn't change the underlying fact that 1482 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,840 ultimately game on a game level. They are now that that is the 1483 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,040 that's the scenario now the the on a game level, games are 1484 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:51,440 competing like on PlayStation in Europe the most, the most. 1485 01:15:51,440 --> 01:15:56,680 I think they they bought Forza more than PlayStation games last 1486 01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,640 year or whatever it was. That's crazy. 1487 01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:01,960 So the games are doing the talking and Microsoft has and 1488 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,800 that's where the competition is. And people will cry about 1489 01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:07,000 platform more this and that, but it exists. 1490 01:16:07,000 --> 01:16:09,960 The different platforms. They hardware is less of an 1491 01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:13,880 issue now because 90% of what you saw in the state of 1492 01:16:14,720 --> 01:16:16,520 PlayStation. Why do you call it state of PC? 1493 01:16:16,520 --> 01:16:17,960 Bro? They were all on PC. 1494 01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,400 So that's it. What's up, Abby? 1495 01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:25,280 Yeah, so and shout out to 170 of you smash the like button if 1496 01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:28,160 you're enjoying the the chat, especially the ponies, you 1497 01:16:28,160 --> 01:16:30,040 pricks. Smash the like button. 1498 01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:36,120 So what what I was going to say was you are seeing that game 1499 01:16:36,120 --> 01:16:39,840 level competition the the conversation, even though this 1500 01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:42,880 you know, Microsoft's still tentatively in the hardware 1501 01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:48,120 space is about games Fable yeah, it's going to be is it going to 1502 01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,360 be good? They're like it's all multiplat 1503 01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,720 now that that the exclusivity question is finished. 1504 01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:57,760 But now it's like, well is Microsoft is Xbox delivery and 1505 01:16:57,760 --> 01:17:01,800 that's the interesting part. When ABK happened, you said that 1506 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:05,960 you were I was I celebrated it. I said this is fucking crazy 1507 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,160 that they bought Blizzard. Activision Blizzard wasn't even 1508 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,800 on my radar that Microsoft went ahead and bought them and but at 1509 01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:14,400 the same time, when it came out, when it before it finished and 1510 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:19,520 as it finished, I said they will be unrelenting in demanding that 1511 01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:23,440 they sought out Blizzard. I want to see results, not just 1512 01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,440 oh, legacy games on game Pass. No, no, I want to see fucking 1513 01:17:26,440 --> 01:17:29,520 results because Blizzard I want to see them fixed. 1514 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:34,440 I, I, I've fallen off Wilder Warcraft after Lich King, maybe. 1515 01:17:34,440 --> 01:17:38,320 No, I think I really see after Burning Crusade and Blizzard 1516 01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,080 have been a shell of their former self for a long time, and 1517 01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:44,880 they've been cussed by hardcore fans for the longest time. 1518 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:50,200 And now we're finally starting to see some light at the end of 1519 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:51,960 the tunnel. Because isn't just Overwatch, 1520 01:17:52,160 --> 01:17:56,120 they're now supposed to reveal the new StarCraft game. 1521 01:17:56,600 --> 01:18:00,480 It's just a shooter. If that looks good and and 1522 01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:04,280 exist, what existing is a big thing. 1523 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,840 Finally they're doing something with StarCraft. 1524 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,520 Ghost got cancelled in a freaking Xbox. 1525 01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:13,080 Oh G Gen lowing the 360 I believe, and we've been living 1526 01:18:13,080 --> 01:18:16,200 on memories of that. But if StarCraft exists and it 1527 01:18:16,200 --> 01:18:19,760 looks good and in my mind, I'm thinking like Space Marines too 1528 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,040 kind of thing. Fucking amazing, man. 1529 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:24,280 That's the kind of shit I want to see. 1530 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,720 I want to see Blizzard getting fixed. 1531 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:30,440 And there seems to be a mandate now within Blizzard to sort this 1532 01:18:30,440 --> 01:18:32,440 shit out. So I'm I'm I'm really happy 1533 01:18:32,440 --> 01:18:34,920 about about that. And we're going to find out this 1534 01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,800 year. I think a BlizzCon is going to 1535 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,440 be the real. BlizzCon, yeah. 1536 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:43,640 So seeing a star craft game, huge, huge deal for me. 1537 01:18:44,440 --> 01:18:47,000 I've not I've not star star a star craft head. 1538 01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:53,400 I I I've watched their freaking CGI cutscenes, RT SS, especially 1539 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:55,600 with star crafts. Bro, I can't, I can't. 1540 01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,880 I'll tell you what changed. I used to go people say, oh 1541 01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:01,840 guys, you're a tourist. I used to fucking play quake 1542 01:19:01,840 --> 01:19:05,680 through in a pro level with the world champion and the same 1543 01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,160 cyber CAF I was with I was with the European champion of 1544 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:11,800 commander conquer generals Broski, and they used to play 1545 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:13,960 star craft. They used to play Warcraft, the 1546 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:20,560 you know, RTS. The divide in the skill between 1547 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,440 these guys and me. Bro I'm a retard compared to 1548 01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:27,720 them. They are so fucking good. 1549 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:31,720 They will think 10 steps ahead. I can't even catch up. 1550 01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,240 The way you see them moving their mouse and keyboard and 1551 01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:38,960 just fucking cycling through scene, assigning like numbers 1552 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,760 and hot keys to the to different units and squads and they're 1553 01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:44,560 just moving so fast. They're so good. 1554 01:19:44,840 --> 01:19:47,720 I'm like, bro, it's not even there's no point in me even 1555 01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,880 trying to play the genre. I love the I respect the genre, 1556 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:54,920 but I'll just be like the slow moron just going send the unit 1557 01:19:54,920 --> 01:19:56,160 there. I'll play there. 1558 01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:58,200 I love red alert too. I love the commander Cocker 1559 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:00,360 general it was I loved it to death, but when I saw that guy 1560 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:05,280 play, I felt so insignificant. I was like, fuck this, fuck 1561 01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,320 this. I've never played this again. 1562 01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:10,720 They're so good, man, bro, the the Koreans. 1563 01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,320 Well, actually that guy was Filipino and he can't he won the 1564 01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:15,640 European champions. So but it's Far East Asians, 1565 01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:16,400 bro. They're just smart. 1566 01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,680 I've dealt, I work with it. They're just fucking just feel 1567 01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,040 different. But when it comes to RTS's bro 1568 01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:24,640 on another level. So I've always wanted to like 1569 01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:28,160 StarCraft, but it's that. That is genre kind of put me off 1570 01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:31,000 a little bit. Not because it's a inferior 1571 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,640 genre is just not something I'm good at, but a third person. 1572 01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,320 Game the same, I'm just not good at it. 1573 01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,760 So yeah. Yeah, man, I can't wait for 1574 01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,120 that. So I've been looking at ghosts 1575 01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:44,720 there aesthetic. I put it on my videos all the 1576 01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:46,720 time StarCraft. I have no no anything about it. 1577 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,440 But when I watched the CGI cutscenes, Blizz, I think you 1578 01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:51,400 know, Blizzard fucking make amazing cutscenes. 1579 01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:53,760 So now I'm like, dude, that level of fidelity in a third 1580 01:20:53,760 --> 01:20:55,200 person game. I'm excited. 1581 01:20:55,440 --> 01:20:57,480 I I want to play star. I want to be in the world of 1582 01:20:57,480 --> 01:21:00,840 star StarCraft, just like Warhammer looks good, but I'm 1583 01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:03,040 like this is fucking weird. There's old virgins in the 1584 01:21:03,040 --> 01:21:05,840 warhammer shops painting figurines, just a bunch of sad 1585 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:06,880 cuts. Why am I fucking? 1586 01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:10,560 I'm not going to but the figures look good but I'm an idiot 1587 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,680 because I didn't understand the law of that game. 1588 01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:16,280 Warhammer is fucking raw. It is bad arse. 1589 01:21:16,280 --> 01:21:19,520 So Space Marine 2 was my introduction to this universe 1590 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,680 and and then I realised, Oh my God, this game is it's called 1591 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:26,280 Grim Doc the Chandra that it's beside everything is bad, 1592 01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,160 everyone is evil, there's no explanation of humanity good. 1593 01:21:29,160 --> 01:21:32,600 We're seeing everyone's fucked and that's the but who cares now 1594 01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:36,040 deal with the madness. Such a good and that's a kind of 1595 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:38,880 feeling I hope the Star Craft has. 1596 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,160 The universe looks amazing, but you guys in chat will know 1597 01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:44,640 better than me just how much value there is in the Star Craft 1598 01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,680 universe. And that's that's another thing. 1599 01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:50,360 So we're seeing the up, up the rise of Blizzard. 1600 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,200 That's what I'll call the time stamp, the rise of Blizzard. 1601 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,480 So that's good. What else happened apart from 1602 01:21:55,480 --> 01:21:57,080 Arc Raiders hitting 14,000,000 units? 1603 01:21:57,080 --> 01:22:00,240 That was mad. We talked about the high guard 1604 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:04,640 getting tanked. Microsoft is reportedly 1605 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:06,240 exploring a merger of Game Pass tier. 1606 01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:07,960 Fuck I don't give a shit about game pass anymore. 1607 01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:09,840 Bro. I, I think I read some 1608 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,320 something, play something. I'm so terrible bro. 1609 01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:15,280 I, I calculated I'm so bad with my money. 1610 01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:18,680 Guess how much I I spend on subscriptions a month? 1611 01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,160 Just guess. And dollars is fine. 1612 01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:28,200 Callous spending. Callous spending. 200. 505 1613 01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:29,880 hundred a month. Don't even ask me why. 1614 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,600 I've got excel spreadsheet, I can tell you what it's on. 500 a 1615 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,600 month on fucking subscriptions. Mental I don't even use. 1616 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,720 Terrible. I'm terrible. 1617 01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:41,160 So yeah, but I might have Game Pass. 1618 01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:43,760 I don't even know anymore. I boycotted it because of the 1619 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,200 political stuff. Then they kind of did a U-turn 1620 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:48,800 with the studios and then I saw Arcade Leon and then a lot of 1621 01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:51,680 fighting back and then they did a U-turn and I was like, all 1622 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,200 right, it's still the same shitty company. 1623 01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:57,160 I can't even fucking fight. There's an inequality of 1624 01:22:57,160 --> 01:23:00,160 bargaining power. Everything that we use by tax, I 1625 01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:03,640 pay so much in tax, that's going to freaking how can we do, bro? 1626 01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,320 And then you know, man, you're American. 1627 01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,760 You're fucking country is also in this fucking mess, bro. 1628 01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:13,080 So the UK, so everywhere. Yeah, it's chaos. 1629 01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,440 Now you can't even escape it. You can't escape the madness. 1630 01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:18,360 No, it's just that's why we kind of go into gaming and even 1631 01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,720 gaming is it is what it is. There's bad topics I used to 1632 01:23:22,720 --> 01:23:24,960 have, but I've kind of gone through them. 1633 01:23:25,000 --> 01:23:28,600 Oh yeah, Microsoft's next Gen is so this come for idle slots. 1634 01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,160 Shout out to him. Really nice guy. 1635 01:23:31,320 --> 01:23:34,320 I hope to meet him soon. But they're next Gen. 1636 01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,200 They're they're good. Guy. 1637 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,840 Yeah, he's, you met him, right? My tall guy as well. 1638 01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:41,320 Is he tall? At the yeah, that was that. 1639 01:23:41,440 --> 01:23:42,920 That was my first time with it. God. 1640 01:23:45,440 --> 01:23:47,680 Damn, Yeah, yeah, I've seen him. I could look like a Hobbit 1641 01:23:47,680 --> 01:23:49,520 standing next to him. I'll start looking at a Hobbit 1642 01:23:49,520 --> 01:23:51,280 standing next to you. So fucking hell, that's going to 1643 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,280 be terrible. But you know, I wanted to ask 1644 01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:59,040 you about this. The next Gen Xbox, I know Xbox 1645 01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:05,840 has, you know, whatever hardware now hardware is like a side 1646 01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:08,840 thing for them. They're they're still committed 1647 01:24:08,840 --> 01:24:15,760 to hardware, but they their next console is really, I mean, Xbox 1648 01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,120 has found that their audience, main audience, I'll be, and this 1649 01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:22,520 is going to very, very painful for a lot of Xbox fans to hear. 1650 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:24,000 I keep saying, and they get really pissed off at me. 1651 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,680 But then the main 1 is like PlayStation. 1652 01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:28,120 They're buying games. There's so many. 1653 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:30,720 It's 90 million PS fives out of the wild. 1654 01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:32,640 They're getting massive spending power. 1655 01:24:32,920 --> 01:24:36,080 They're they're buying Xbox games and whilst crying and 1656 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:38,960 laughing at Xbox is the background on social media, but 1657 01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:42,600 Xbox is in this place where they're still committed to 1658 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,720 hardware when people thought they'll walk out. 1659 01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:49,520 But the next Xbox and I saw Digital Foundry talk about this 1660 01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,920 and they were like, they were, they were talking about Tim Dog. 1661 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:53,360 They're like, oh, they lost Tim Dog. 1662 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:58,400 They're freaking. He's so infamous that even your 1663 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,240 buddy Tim Dog has mentioned that digital found Digital Foundry. 1664 01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:07,040 I I saw that. Tim, bless his heart. 1665 01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:11,600 You know what I feel like he, when you meet him, I'm sorry. 1666 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,400 You know, I know exactly what you're saying to Paris. 1667 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,560 I'm sorry, man. I just felt. 1668 01:25:15,560 --> 01:25:19,200 So when you you know what you'll be like, Tim just just got to 1669 01:25:19,200 --> 01:25:20,840 chill and that's how it's going to be like. 1670 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,400 Yeah, Yeah. That's like what Tim is like. 1671 01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:27,400 He's like that. Look, I have to say though, when 1672 01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:28,800 and I'll never I'll never forget. 1673 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:34,760 I got this DM from someone going Yo, Tim Dog made a video, but I 1674 01:25:34,760 --> 01:25:39,560 go what on it and I was like, is this AII? 1675 01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:41,760 Thought it was AII was like this ain't this is this can't be 1676 01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:42,680 real. It's not real. 1677 01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,080 He had his godfather music in the background and he said I was 1678 01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,280 like, Oh my God, he has lost his figure, man. 1679 01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:54,040 And to your point, I get he got mad at me because he took a joke 1680 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,880 and thought it was more than what it was and it was honestly 1681 01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:00,280 harmless because it was it was kind of because it was like 1682 01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,840 because like you talk shit and you you joke. 1683 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:05,960 It's the same thing. Whereas bro, we're saying it out 1684 01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,720 of love. It's not out of I hate you or 1685 01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,200 despise you or anything like that, and I was like all I was 1686 01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:13,000 like, well, don't do that. That'd be a terrible idea. 1687 01:26:13,000 --> 01:26:15,320 Be a terrible idea to put me to the head of Xbox. 1688 01:26:15,400 --> 01:26:19,480 That's all I was saying anyways, 2 point he obviously got very 1689 01:26:19,480 --> 01:26:23,840 sensitive made the videos, some of the funny shit I've seen in a 1690 01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:26,680 very long time. I, I, I, I did have to laugh 1691 01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,800 because I didn't believe it. I was like this can't be real. 1692 01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,600 This is not real and just on that subject real quick. 1693 01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:35,400 I'm just saying this and I know he's American Tim Dog now and 1694 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:41,960 political and all this stuff, but he wasn't wrong in anything 1695 01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,280 that he said. And I guess that's what was my 1696 01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,680 whole thing was, it was like I never didn't believe him because 1697 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:49,880 I know he talks a lot of people at Xbox, right? 1698 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,240 It was how he handled it. Whereas I think was the issue, 1699 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:58,080 whereas that was the problem with him. 1700 01:26:58,080 --> 01:27:04,920 He he melted that. Never tie yourself to any brand 1701 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,600 to that level to where you're going to have a meltdown. 1702 01:27:07,880 --> 01:27:10,800 Because think about it, it's really as simple because now 1703 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,280 they're going to sell games on another platform. 1704 01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:15,520 That's really why you melt it down. 1705 01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:19,600 I don't care that Gears of War or look, and I hope people give 1706 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,720 it the pitchforks and all that because I didn't believe that 1707 01:27:21,720 --> 01:27:24,440 shit was going to happen. But when it did, like when I 1708 01:27:24,440 --> 01:27:29,440 played Gears of War Reloaded on PlayStation Five, I go, OK, all 1709 01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:31,120 right, it'll be the same thing with Halo. 1710 01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:34,360 OK there. What are you going to do? 1711 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,280 You just choose where you want to play ultimately is all 1712 01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,480 they're doing. But anyways, I know that was wet 1713 01:27:39,480 --> 01:27:42,960 tangent off, but yeah, that was that was something. 1714 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:49,320 Bro, you respect the passion. He's very passionate. 1715 01:27:49,320 --> 01:27:52,600 He's extremely sensitive. He blocked me because I blocked. 1716 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:54,640 He sold his account to someone. I thought it was like a porn 1717 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,480 site and I blocked it and then he blocked me back and then he 1718 01:27:58,480 --> 01:28:01,280 came back as American Tim Dog. Block me now. 1719 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:02,760 I don't know you're going to come back. 1720 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,560 Who do you sell the account to? You can't expect we did not 1721 01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,680 block you after, you know the DMS and shit you might have 1722 01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:09,600 leaked. I don't know what we were 1723 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,160 talking about, some wild shit, but bless him. 1724 01:28:12,440 --> 01:28:16,520 But you know, the new Xbox is blessed to block, but the new 1725 01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:21,360 Xbox exists and it's going to be this it's not going to be a 1726 01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,800 seller like it's going to be a premium premium brand. 1727 01:28:25,560 --> 01:28:33,760 Now, now that you forsake an exclusivity, I and we in the 1728 01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:36,080 core gaming space, we, we love our hardware. 1729 01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:39,200 Look, Digital Foundry exists and is so popular for that reason, 1730 01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,960 because of core gamers like us who want the, and that's why 1731 01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,280 we're spending, you know, God knows how much on the gaming PC. 1732 01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:48,240 But when it comes to consoles, Xbox is going to have a, a bit 1733 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,000 of hardware that will natively play Xbox games. 1734 01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:56,600 So it has a, a justifiable hybrid moniker because it is a 1735 01:28:56,600 --> 01:28:59,160 hybrid. Unless they're going to, I don't 1736 01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,120 know how they're going to do that, how they're going to 1737 01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:06,080 natively play old Xbox games and design it like APC. 1738 01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:08,800 Unless emulation comes into play, that will then be 1739 01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:12,920 available for PC as well. It's going to be like that. 1740 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:19,000 Well, well, it's what I think is happening is this AMD chip, the 1741 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:21,880 custom chip they're getting from AMD for this next Gen thing is 1742 01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:26,120 going to allow some, some form of emulation for the back 1743 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,200 catalogue of games. So to, to what you're saying, 1744 01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,840 like if you and I build APC and it doesn't have that AMD chip in 1745 01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:35,240 it, that soccer whatever, then you're not going to have 1746 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,400 backwards compatibility, obviously going to play all the 1747 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:39,240 new stuff that's played anywhere and all that. 1748 01:29:39,240 --> 01:29:43,160 But the old 360 games, Xbox One games, you're not going to be 1749 01:29:43,160 --> 01:29:47,320 able to play those unless they also have APC version, I guess, 1750 01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:49,320 right. So that's what I think is 1751 01:29:49,320 --> 01:29:54,200 happening. I'm actually very curious slash 1752 01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:59,360 excited for Jason Ronald doing that keynote at GDC in a couple 1753 01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,400 weeks because I'll yeah, because I'll be there for that. 1754 01:30:02,120 --> 01:30:06,040 Because that's I think is them starting the conversation with 1755 01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,120 with devs about what they're doing for this whole next Gen 1756 01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:11,200 strategy. Because it's pretty clear that 1757 01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,960 yeah, they're going to provide some hardware, but we're going 1758 01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:15,880 to see some OEM products as well. 1759 01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:20,360 Obviously this cloud stuff that they're doing like I think on 1760 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:24,640 any open platform, whether it's APC, their own hardware or 1761 01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:26,160 whatever. But if it's an open platform, 1762 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:29,880 AKA not a PlayStation or a Switch, that UI is going to be 1763 01:30:29,880 --> 01:30:32,680 universal across, like it's going to be the same thing, 1764 01:30:32,680 --> 01:30:34,560 cloud, all that. And that's where I think they're 1765 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:39,120 trying to get to clearly play anywhere is, is the new, but 1766 01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:40,640 like you said, Game Pass still exists. 1767 01:30:40,640 --> 01:30:45,360 The price increase has lessened the enthusiasm towards Game 1768 01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:48,000 Pass, but it's still there. But really it's about play 1769 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,160 anywhere for them now to where you just buy the game once and 1770 01:30:51,160 --> 01:30:53,520 go play it on whatever open platform device you want to go 1771 01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:56,040 play it on is I think what they're trying to do. 1772 01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,560 You know, this, the rogue Ally, the handheld, I think is 1773 01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:02,640 essentially a alpha for where they're trying to get to. 1774 01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,040 Does that mean if you tell me that Sarah Bunk? 1775 01:31:05,080 --> 01:31:07,000 Pretty much. All that, yeah, yeah, All 1776 01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,040 intents and purposes, that's what they've said because that's 1777 01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,080 what it's going to be. You're going to have that Xbox 1778 01:31:11,080 --> 01:31:15,400 app on APC cloud streaming, whatever it is, and it's going 1779 01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:16,800 to be identical across the board. 1780 01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:20,840 So we'll see. But to your point, but to your 1781 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:22,000 point, it ain't going to be cheap. 1782 01:31:23,280 --> 01:31:25,320 They're going to they're going to provide one like the scene. 1783 01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,080 That's where I'm I'm curious what the OEM devices are there 1784 01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:32,000 going to be different tiers of performance and price from third 1785 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:36,360 party partners. So maybe theirs is 1200 bucks, 1786 01:31:36,760 --> 01:31:42,840 but maybe, I don't know, Lenovo offers something that is 7800 1787 01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:46,040 bucks but it's not as powerful. I don't know. 1788 01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:47,160 I. Think that's exactly. 1789 01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:48,120 What? I guess that's what we're going 1790 01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:49,440 to see. I think that's exactly what's 1791 01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:51,280 going to happen. Challenge face 23 Brooklyn. 1792 01:31:51,280 --> 01:31:52,760 Thank you for the $20 super chat. 1793 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:56,480 He goes Paris. Do you think Sony will do day 1794 01:31:56,480 --> 01:32:00,320 and date with all their games day one on PC before the PS6 1795 01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:02,560 drops? No, I don't. 1796 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:06,640 I think live service game, multiplayer games because I got 1797 01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:09,760 to make money those will, but I think they're single player 1798 01:32:09,760 --> 01:32:11,600 stuff. It's pretty clear they're going 1799 01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,920 to continue doing this timed exclusivity with with it. 1800 01:32:15,560 --> 01:32:17,360 I don't see that. Like I would imagine ghost of 1801 01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:20,280 Yote is on PC later this year, right? 1802 01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:23,040 Death Serenity 2 obviously is a is about to be on PC. 1803 01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:28,720 Wolverine, probably holiday 2027 is on PC. 1804 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:30,440 You know they're going to stagger it out. 1805 01:32:30,440 --> 01:32:33,720 I don't I don't see them ever doing day and date because you 1806 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,200 also have to remember this too. And Craig, Craig Duncan just 1807 01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,120 talked about this and I know I had actually talked to Matt 1808 01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:41,200 Booty at summer game fest last year. 1809 01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:42,520 He pretty much said the same thing. 1810 01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,680 The only thing that's stopping Xbox from putting a game day and 1811 01:32:47,680 --> 01:32:51,240 date on PC, Xbox and PlayStation all at once. 1812 01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:53,280 Time and resources of the studio. 1813 01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:56,280 Yeah, they're pretty much day and day now, with the exception 1814 01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,920 of ISA, Forza Horizon, because they haven't got the resources. 1815 01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,880 Soon there will be everything. Yeah. 1816 01:33:02,240 --> 01:33:05,280 So with PlayStation, they're obviously using Nexus to do all 1817 01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,120 that. Nexus only has so much time and 1818 01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,400 resources, you know, to port stuff versus trying to get 1819 01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:15,000 Insomniac or, or, or a Naughty Dog to do it themselves. 1820 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:16,960 They obviously give it over to Nixes to do so. 1821 01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:19,960 I don't see them changing that going into the PlayStation 6. 1822 01:33:19,960 --> 01:33:22,720 I think, look, they're making money doing it, so I think if 1823 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:25,160 they're happy with the revenue they're getting, they'll just 1824 01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:26,680 keep it the same. I think so. 1825 01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:28,440 I think it would be stupid for them to do. 1826 01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:34,000 I think the PS 6, I feel like Elite, they're they're with the 1827 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:37,760 Xbox now out of the picture in terms of like that threat is 1828 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:41,040 gone on a hardware level. Even if it was like a lukewarm 1829 01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,600 threat because of, you know, ineffectiveness of the Xbox One 1830 01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:46,520 generation, blah, blah, blah. There was still a looming threat 1831 01:33:46,520 --> 01:33:50,000 that with that out of the way, the PS6 is now probably their 1832 01:33:50,000 --> 01:33:53,720 best bet to really capitalise on hardware sales for a console. 1833 01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,680 After that, like I would say maybe 2-3 years into the PS6 1834 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,120 then the exclusivity thing really starts to dwindle. 1835 01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:06,280 And then only then can you perhaps perhaps expect Sony to 1836 01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:09,960 completely drop the day and day on PC, but the gaps getting 1837 01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,640 shorter anyway. These games are coming to PC. 1838 01:34:12,800 --> 01:34:17,280 Most of the games are PC and 90% of games we saw on the the State 1839 01:34:17,280 --> 01:34:20,480 of Play are all on PC, even though they're partnered on PC 1840 01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:22,400 and they're partnered with Ember Lab and people are treating it 1841 01:34:22,400 --> 01:34:25,440 like a first party title, but that's coming out on PC day one. 1842 01:34:26,200 --> 01:34:31,200 So that, you know, it, it wouldn't really harm them, but 1843 01:34:31,200 --> 01:34:33,360 I, I would be, you'd be stupid if you were somebody to do it 1844 01:34:33,360 --> 01:34:36,800 just now because, you know, PC sales have been decent. 1845 01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:40,200 They made like 2 billion. Apparently our PC releases, 1846 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,720 which is not a, a small number. People are like, Oh yeah, 2 1847 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:45,560 billion compared to the other 30 billion. 1848 01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,240 I mean, it's still 2 billion Brev. 1849 01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:50,800 And you know, and you know what that 2 billion does. 1850 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:54,600 And Shuhei said this when he was Greg had interviewed him like a 1851 01:34:54,600 --> 01:34:57,400 year ago or so, right? Basically, putting those games 1852 01:34:57,400 --> 01:35:00,640 on PC is like printing money, and then they take that money 1853 01:35:01,480 --> 01:35:03,200 and that finances the next project. 1854 01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:04,760 So you got to look at it that way. 1855 01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,360 So they're not going to stop. Why would they? 1856 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,080 It wouldn't make sense for them to stop. 1857 01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:12,800 What's the what's the, what's the incentive, the chat Tell me 1858 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:15,440 what's the incentive of Xbox PlayStation drop? 1859 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:17,160 I mean, they, they gave you no indication. 1860 01:35:17,160 --> 01:35:19,400 I'll tell you. I'll tell you, I'll tell you 1861 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:21,280 what, I'm not saying the chat's thinking this, but I'll tell you 1862 01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:22,720 what some people on social media think. 1863 01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:26,840 The incentive is their feelings. Gotta protect their gotta 1864 01:35:26,840 --> 01:35:30,760 protect their feelings. Bro they're they're they're so 1865 01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,240 that they are laser focused on PC. 1866 01:35:33,240 --> 01:35:36,360 They hate everything. Just buy APC, just buy a 1867 01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,960 PlayStation just buy a play. You just see these idiots go 1868 01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:40,240 just buy a PlayStation. Why? 1869 01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:43,000 So they join a community of freaking brain dead retail 1870 01:35:43,000 --> 01:35:46,080 online. So just galvanised behind this 1871 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:49,080 piece of hardware that you can buy at Toys-R-Us Safe. 1872 01:35:49,960 --> 01:35:51,920 But you know what? You know what, this is along 1873 01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:54,560 those lines really quick, kind of going back to somebody set up 1874 01:35:54,560 --> 01:35:57,400 at the top. That's something I'm very 1875 01:35:57,800 --> 01:36:02,240 thankful, fortunate and lucky that I've been able to do a lot 1876 01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,760 of the stuff that I've been able to do in gaming and essentially 1877 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:06,880 travel the world and just meet all these different people 1878 01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:11,040 around the world. Social media is so full of shit. 1879 01:36:12,200 --> 01:36:14,240 People don't act like this in person. 1880 01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:16,320 I like I was just at games com last year. 1881 01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,160 I mean, you know, hundreds of thousands of people, people 1882 01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,440 coming up to me talking, take pictures, all this stuff. 1883 01:36:20,800 --> 01:36:25,600 And it's yo, no one's mad about if you got a goddamn Xbox or a 1884 01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:27,080 PlayStation. No one gives a shit. 1885 01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:28,800 They're just excited for the games. 1886 01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:33,080 I've yet to ever have someone in real life come up to me and say 1887 01:36:33,080 --> 01:36:35,920 some of the crazy, silly shit that you see on social media 1888 01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:37,680 about this stuff. It doesn't happen. 1889 01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:40,000 You haven't met Matt Boo. Sorry, not Matt Boo. 1890 01:36:40,000 --> 01:36:41,800 What's that guy's name? Who left the Blizzard? 1891 01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,560 The guy, that's where M Mikey Barra. 1892 01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:46,840 Oh, wow. Mikey Barra. 1893 01:36:46,840 --> 01:36:49,080 Yeah. He cares about that shit on 1894 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:50,720 social media. You know what's funny? 1895 01:36:50,720 --> 01:36:53,280 I was supposed to interview him. Yeah. 1896 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:57,040 That right before he left, we were trying to do this thing. 1897 01:36:57,040 --> 01:36:59,200 I was going to go to Blizzard. We're going to do it in person. 1898 01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:00,680 I was going to interview him. I was like, oh, cool. 1899 01:37:01,120 --> 01:37:03,560 And then I remember they're like, yeah, we need to delay it. 1900 01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:10,000 And then he was gone. I feel so I'm hearing he's 1901 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,440 always been people don't like him at Xbox. 1902 01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:16,240 He's been a bit of a character at Xbox, but you know the real 1903 01:37:16,240 --> 01:37:17,240 story. I know you. 1904 01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,800 He ain't saying shit. OK, one day I'll find out what 1905 01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,040 he was. But a lot of people, a lot of 1906 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:25,960 people tell me that Mike Gbarra was a Dick head today, seen as a 1907 01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:27,480 Dick head. I don't see here's. 1908 01:37:27,640 --> 01:37:31,120 What I will say, here's what I will say about him, a person in 1909 01:37:31,120 --> 01:37:34,600 the position that he's been in, in the industry and what is he 1910 01:37:34,600 --> 01:37:36,480 at prize picks now or whatever he's doing now? 1911 01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:38,440 Yeah. Why are you diving? 1912 01:37:38,440 --> 01:37:44,400 Why are you diving in the mud of social media and just you should 1913 01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:46,520 you should be way above that. I guess that's the point that 1914 01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:48,920 I'm trying to make. I I'm surprised at some of the 1915 01:37:48,920 --> 01:37:52,320 comments that I see that he has some of the stuff, some of the 1916 01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:56,160 stuff that he says I don't necessarily disagree with, but 1917 01:37:56,160 --> 01:38:00,240 it's how he presents some of it. And then he gets very sarcastic 1918 01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,880 and petty. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1919 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:08,840 Oh, man, well, that's spanky bar for you about. 1920 01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,040 Yeah, I was just talking about this Xbox, this premium device. 1921 01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,200 I guess we'll see. I'm actually intrigued. 1922 01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:15,920 I have all the hardware devices. It is the Xbox device that's the 1923 01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:18,160 most interesting. You know, the PS 6 is going to 1924 01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:21,720 be PS-5 on on crack. So it's going to be like, all 1925 01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:25,000 right, but the PS. But the Xbox is presumably the 1926 01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:27,560 most powerful one. That's one and it's doing 1927 01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,040 something different. So I'm in. 1928 01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:31,880 I'm interested whether I'll buy it or not. 1929 01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,360 It's different course entirely. I've got PC now which does 1930 01:38:34,360 --> 01:38:38,000 everything, so you know, the console hardware has less of an 1931 01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:39,440 interest. But I always end up buying 1932 01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:41,040 everything day one, including the PS6. 1933 01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:42,640 I'll buy it. The only thing. 1934 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,200 That's kind of I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, but 1935 01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:49,720 see, that's kind of my thing of I'm probably won't need it, but 1936 01:38:49,720 --> 01:38:52,520 I can see me getting it just like I'll get the Steam Machine 1937 01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,520 because I can have it in the living room under under my 1938 01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:57,200 television. I think that's the appeal. 1939 01:38:57,200 --> 01:39:02,040 But obviously my gaming PC is, you know, I'm going to have all 1940 01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:03,720 the bells and whistles and do all that kind of stuff. 1941 01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,600 So it's almost just a convenience thing of wanting to 1942 01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,040 do it. And you know, we're obviously 1943 01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,960 the enthusiasts, everybody here, you know, watching and listening 1944 01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:13,720 to this. So you you're not going to need 1945 01:39:13,720 --> 01:39:17,000 the next Xbox, but there's going to be an audience that's going 1946 01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,040 to go pick it up regardless, I think. 1947 01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:23,680 Yeah, definitely the, the hardcore will, will you know 1948 01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:28,040 what, in a way, in a way, I think it's, it's, it's funny how 1949 01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:32,800 Xbox is and I'm actually working on a video on this and the 1950 01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:36,600 general feeling of the, or the kind of the hardware segment of 1951 01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:42,440 my video that I'm I'm writing is about the identity of Xbox. 1952 01:39:42,440 --> 01:39:45,480 It started off this hardcore box and more for enthusiasts. 1953 01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:50,120 And now for a longest time, Xbox is is finally getting to where 1954 01:39:50,120 --> 01:39:53,160 the fans have wanted it to for the longest time, and that's 1955 01:39:53,160 --> 01:39:56,360 getting their good games right in the consistency. 1956 01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:59,680 They are like they've got so many studios under their belt 1957 01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:02,080 it's ridiculous. And now the quality mark is 1958 01:40:02,080 --> 01:40:05,560 looking serious when Forza Horizon and Fable are dropping 1959 01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:09,320 from in the same year and the quality mark of them is expected 1960 01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,560 to be very high. At last Forza was in 93 or 1961 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:15,160 whatever meta this is now in Forza in Japan you're starting 1962 01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:18,400 to see stuff in. You know the the I saw you 1963 01:40:18,400 --> 01:40:21,440 shared of you know, Japan map level the low power. 1964 01:40:21,440 --> 01:40:25,440 Yeah, it looks really good. I I I'm still not so sure about 1965 01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:28,640 the I mean, I was expecting a generation a lot of generational 1966 01:40:28,640 --> 01:40:30,880 leap I'd love for the game was crossed, but I wanted something 1967 01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:33,400 better. It may look, it still looks 1968 01:40:33,400 --> 01:40:36,560 good, but is it? I actually feel like there's a 1969 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:40,480 there's a level of continuity from the last game that I I just 1970 01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:43,880 felt like I wanted more, but I need to see go hands on with it, 1971 01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,560 especially on my PC to see what that's like. 1972 01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:48,840 I'll find out. But that's going to be an 1973 01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:54,040 incredible game anyway. I'm sure perfect Dark's going to 1974 01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:55,560 be incredible. Then you've got this whole 1975 01:40:55,560 --> 01:41:00,520 Blizzard sort of shit out. I keep mentioning Perfect Dark. 1976 01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:02,840 When I keep us, I just say freaking. 1977 01:41:05,040 --> 01:41:09,200 I did this last show how much it hurts me, how much Perfect Dark 1978 01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:10,880 was the one. It killed me, man. 1979 01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:15,000 I'm going to keep doing it. Fable, sorry, Fable's going to 1980 01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:16,680 be fucking. I think it's going to be good. 1981 01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,160 Peter Mullen, you talked about this week. 1982 01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,080 What? Do you think about gears? 1983 01:41:20,640 --> 01:41:21,840 And that's what's going to go on to next. 1984 01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:24,280 That's the big one. And we haven't even seen that. 1985 01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:28,320 And I assume, and I'll be very disappointed if you don't see it 1986 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:29,960 though, summer, what do you call it? 1987 01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:31,160 Game Fest? What is it called now? 1988 01:41:31,160 --> 01:41:33,400 Xbox's summer showcase. I don't know what the fuck it's 1989 01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,480 called. Yeah, some like it'll be the dev 1990 01:41:35,480 --> 01:41:37,960 direct after. I'd be shocked if it wasn't. 1991 01:41:38,480 --> 01:41:41,920 It has to be. They have to show it and that 1992 01:41:42,480 --> 01:41:46,080 Gears of War like they've done everything I've on paper. 1993 01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:51,440 They're saying that I that Gears should do so and I might 1994 01:41:51,440 --> 01:41:55,560 actually work on a video and use AI to kind of build like some 1995 01:41:55,560 --> 01:41:58,680 scenes out of what I think Gears of War needs to do or I imagine 1996 01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,720 what they will do. But gears the gears E day with 1997 01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:05,120 AUE 5 and I know, but I still talk about AI. 1998 01:42:05,120 --> 01:42:08,840 People like AI slop and then you fucking what do you want me to 1999 01:42:08,840 --> 01:42:11,120 do? Build concept art from scratch 2000 01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:13,680 for a YouTube video that will get what, 3000 views? 2001 01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:16,480 Are you fucking stupid? Of course I love AI. 2002 01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:18,880 I love the stuff. I understand the arguments all 2003 01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:20,440 the way through. One of the reasons This is why 2004 01:42:20,440 --> 01:42:22,480 my subscription costs so high. It's because of the AI 2005 01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:25,160 subscriptions. And I'm like, fuck your RAM 2006 01:42:25,160 --> 01:42:26,760 prices. This is tech. 2007 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,120 It's here to stay. It's here to stay. 2008 01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:31,440 And when I use it in my Starfield video, people really 2009 01:42:31,440 --> 01:42:33,520 liked it. I'm like, oh, yeah, I built a 2010 01:42:33,520 --> 01:42:34,960 scene. I'll talk about Starfield just 2011 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:38,160 in a second before we go. But I built a scene where, you 2012 01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:42,240 know, someone was using like the cutting through the the the ship 2013 01:42:42,240 --> 01:42:45,960 to do the seamless boarding into a ship and I could use AI to it 2014 01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:48,240 literally made it look like Starfield. 2015 01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,360 It was amazing. I just put uploaded some 2016 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:53,960 screenshots of my gameplay and it just fucking did it and I 2017 01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:56,840 will do the same thing with my gears war video which I 2018 01:42:56,840 --> 01:43:02,480 eventually will go out to. No rap but Gears E day man on 2019 01:43:02,480 --> 01:43:04,960 UE5 which I love. I'm sorry you can cry about it 2020 01:43:04,960 --> 01:43:08,280 all you want but I love UE5 and what it's done to the industry 2021 01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:12,400 and how it's enabled Indies and AA's to do stuff that looks 2022 01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:16,080 amazing and made it accessible. And it's the solution. 2023 01:43:16,240 --> 01:43:19,680 Not the perfect solution but is a solution to all the industry 2024 01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:24,120 bloat, the pricing that you know the the dev costs to to to 2025 01:43:24,240 --> 01:43:28,840 equalise that. OK but Gears E day bro. 2026 01:43:29,320 --> 01:43:31,680 I expect, I expect nothing but greatness. 2027 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:34,840 Visually it needs to look fucking amazing. 2028 01:43:35,320 --> 01:43:38,120 It needs to be bloody, it needs to be violent, it needs to be up 2029 01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:41,560 close and personal. Multiplayer still somehow has to 2030 01:43:41,560 --> 01:43:44,760 be 60 frames though. On PC I'm sure I was OK, but 2031 01:43:44,760 --> 01:43:48,400 even on console it cannot be 30. If it is, that's a fucking joke. 2032 01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:50,680 They'll strip it down though, as they always do the. 2033 01:43:50,720 --> 01:43:52,720 Yeah, they'll downgrade the visuals to hit 60. 2034 01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:54,920 It'll be 60 on there I'm sure. Yeah, they always do. 2035 01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:58,920 But bro, that game, that, that game is the one to watch out 2036 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,160 for. That's the one I really want to 2037 01:44:01,160 --> 01:44:04,320 see this summer. I want to see that from Xbox 2038 01:44:04,680 --> 01:44:08,680 because bro, just that one game. I say one game that falls out 2039 01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:10,280 the whole palette. That's why I was actually, I'm 2040 01:44:10,280 --> 01:44:12,040 glad you mentioned that because that kind of fills out the whole 2041 01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:16,480 picture of Xbox's first part is stable when it comes to their 2042 01:44:16,480 --> 01:44:18,160 software. You've got Fable that might 2043 01:44:18,160 --> 01:44:22,400 smash it and it'll be the non Forza game that might, might 2044 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:24,880 potentially hit Nike plus Meta, which is going to be a big 2045 01:44:24,880 --> 01:44:28,720 signal for Xbox's quality mark that's been missing for a while. 2046 01:44:29,200 --> 01:44:31,080 So that's going to be good and it looks great. 2047 01:44:31,200 --> 01:44:34,280 And it's built by their own bespoke engine as well, So 2048 01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,160 there's a bit level of prestige there. 2049 01:44:36,320 --> 01:44:38,800 Forza tech engine and it's coming from Playground games. 2050 01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:42,080 Then you got Forza Horizon. Then you get Gears, a third 2051 01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:46,360 person action game looking fucking great from Coalition 2052 01:44:46,360 --> 01:44:48,600 that have sat out the entire Gen. 2053 01:44:49,480 --> 01:44:51,760 It's going to be that. It's going to send shock waves. 2054 01:44:51,800 --> 01:44:54,800 If it looks good and it's E day, the story's going to be great. 2055 01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,480 Dom is back, amazing. Marcus and Dom going in it. 2056 01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:01,880 That could be the source, man. That could be the source. 2057 01:45:02,520 --> 01:45:05,600 Let me pause you real quick. Did you play Gears Hive Busters? 2058 01:45:05,760 --> 01:45:08,400 Yes, I did. I wasn't that much of a fan of 2059 01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,280 it, I'll be honest. Oh, you didn't see. 2060 01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:13,680 I, I thought I, I actually liked the gameplay loop in that 2061 01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:18,240 because I'm assuming we're going to get more of that and we'll 2062 01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:20,000 obviously see because I haven't shown it yet, but. 2063 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:21,360 I'm assuming. We're in your more. 2064 01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:25,040 You didn't like it? No, bro, look, Gears either. 2065 01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,320 What they've said about what the game is going to be, it's going 2066 01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:30,520 to be a lot more high fusses was not survival horror. 2067 01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,200 It wasn't like Gears One, Oh no. No, no, I'm not saying that. 2068 01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,400 I'm just talking the gun played. Cover, cover. 2069 01:45:35,400 --> 01:45:37,120 System and all that things. That they were doing No. 2070 01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,200 You feel interesting. OK, OK, I'm I'm listening. 2071 01:45:40,520 --> 01:45:43,920 So this is where before Gears E Day was announced, every time 2072 01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:47,120 Gears came up as a topic, I kept talking about on Game on Daily 2073 01:45:47,320 --> 01:45:50,600 what Gears needed to do. And then Cliff Brzezinski 2074 01:45:50,600 --> 01:45:53,160 himself said the same fucking thing after the fact. 2075 01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:56,920 And I was like, there you go, what they need to do because 2076 01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,640 Gears, Gears of War became fast and furious, man. 2077 01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:03,000 Then you just giant mix. All the locusts were like 2078 01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,360 freaking bubble wrap. There were so many of them. 2079 01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:08,000 You just mowing him down became like the latest Rambo movie. 2080 01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:10,160 It became a joke. The locusts weren't scary 2081 01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:11,840 anymore. They were just cannon fodder. 2082 01:46:11,840 --> 01:46:14,680 The level design was so rote. Every time you entered into a 2083 01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:16,960 play space, you already knew what the battle area was looking 2084 01:46:16,960 --> 01:46:18,440 like. Oh, that's the beam there I'm 2085 01:46:18,440 --> 01:46:20,920 going to hide against. There's a convenient place, 2086 01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:22,920 freaking horizontal freaking pillar there. 2087 01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:26,240 I want to take cover there. Everything became expected and 2088 01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:29,480 it became a little bit too routine and it just lost its 2089 01:46:29,480 --> 01:46:32,440 vision. What I expect, what I want, and 2090 01:46:32,440 --> 01:46:36,120 this, I guess I'll make a video on it, is I want a level 1 2091 01:46:36,120 --> 01:46:38,880 dynamism in in in the combat scenario. 2092 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:42,120 So when I'm a sucker behind a war, I want to see bits of that 2093 01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:44,440 war flying off. I can't just stay in that cover 2094 01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:46,880 and it's going to be sick. You see in Gears E day, it's 2095 01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,920 just a basic Locust bitch. Beats the shit out. 2096 01:46:49,920 --> 01:46:52,800 Marcus. It's not a fucking what's it 2097 01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:53,920 called? Those big ones, I forgot the 2098 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,320 name of them that you need the Hammer of Dawn to kill. 2099 01:46:56,680 --> 01:46:59,320 It's just a normal Locust. And that's how it should because 2100 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,680 these are ugly looking freaking weird fucks and they just come 2101 01:47:01,680 --> 01:47:03,240 out nowhere from the sinkhole on the ground. 2102 01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:06,040 And you want to be close up close to personal. 2103 01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:10,160 Really that kind of stuff will enhance the the if your visuals 2104 01:47:10,160 --> 01:47:13,000 are on point, you start to see bits of armour breaking and 2105 01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:16,560 blood just popping out and slowing down the gameplay. 2106 01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:21,400 So it's if you play the Hive Busters active reload, shoot and 2107 01:47:21,400 --> 01:47:24,520 it's just like and it's just even your character just taking 2108 01:47:24,520 --> 01:47:27,040 bullets, just sponging it and there's no impact. 2109 01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:29,520 It lost the weight since Gears one. 2110 01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:32,040 That's what Gears lost. It lost the weight of the 2111 01:47:32,040 --> 01:47:34,760 proceedings. Slow it down, make it bloody up 2112 01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:38,640 close and personal. Even have maybe 3-4 enemies, 2113 01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:41,800 maybe 5 Max and all in the later levels. 2114 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:46,760 But make that the stakes high. That kind of shit will be. 2115 01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,400 It'll be equivalent to what gives a God awarded in 2018 by 2116 01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:54,840 switching it up. I actually think we're in a lot 2117 01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:58,120 of agreement on what you're saying because I I've said for a 2118 01:47:58,120 --> 01:48:01,400 long time they lost their way with the survival. 2119 01:48:01,400 --> 01:48:04,200 It was like sci-fi survival horror is what? 2120 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:06,040 Like it was funny. I found a tweet that I had put 2121 01:48:06,040 --> 01:48:08,520 out like 3 years ago where I was literally complaining about 2122 01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:12,280 this. But we've always wanted 2123 01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:14,480 emergence Day, so we're going back to that. 2124 01:48:14,480 --> 01:48:16,320 And that it should be scary as shit. 2125 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:18,880 These things are coming up out of the ground out of nowhere. 2126 01:48:18,880 --> 01:48:21,880 They're not the, the cog isn't prepared for this. 2127 01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:23,560 It's like it should literally be. 2128 01:48:23,560 --> 01:48:25,720 They're fighting for their survival in this. 2129 01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:30,120 And I don't know if you remember this, but there was an E3 before 2130 01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:33,920 Gears 4 came out, when they first revealed Gears 4 and it 2131 01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:38,120 was Rod Ferguson and all that. And the and the tease made it 2132 01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:40,800 seem like it was a horror game. I was like oh shit, oh shit, 2133 01:48:40,960 --> 01:48:43,400 this is going to be horror. And then it was none of that. 2134 01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:45,480 That tornado, the weather effects, all that. 2135 01:48:45,480 --> 01:48:47,000 They're walking through that castle bit, yeah. 2136 01:48:47,080 --> 01:48:49,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, so I'm I'm with you on that. 2137 01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,920 It needs to be gritty in your face, all that. 2138 01:48:52,920 --> 01:48:55,280 I think what what I'm just saying what Hive Busters is. 2139 01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:59,080 I just thought the moment to moment action felt good for me. 2140 01:48:59,080 --> 01:49:02,960 But I, I, I'm with you. Slow it down, put it more. 2141 01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,800 You don't have all the fancy weapons that you had in the 2142 01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:10,360 later Gears, right? You know, So there, we'll see. 2143 01:49:10,360 --> 01:49:12,320 We'll obviously see what what they show in June with it. 2144 01:49:12,320 --> 01:49:16,280 But yeah, I have very high expectations for it because I do 2145 01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:18,640 think he's in and and it's funny, I'll just say this and 2146 01:49:18,640 --> 01:49:22,320 give it back to you. I put out like I think it was 2147 01:49:22,320 --> 01:49:25,640 Cole Brill or something had made some little art thing kind of 2148 01:49:25,640 --> 01:49:29,840 showing essentially what Xbox had coming in 2026. 2149 01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:34,400 And I said at the time I go, if they deliver all of these things 2150 01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:40,600 on time at quality, this arguably could be the biggest 2151 01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,880 first party lineup they've had in their 25 year history. 2152 01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,600 And people were like, oh, you're crazy bro. 2153 01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:48,400 Forza rises 6. We already know it's going to be 2154 01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:49,360 big. We've already seen it. 2155 01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:51,800 We know, like you said, Fable to me and I know people try to 2156 01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:54,600 criticise whatever, but looks good to me. 2157 01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:57,800 If gear Z day lands and then, you know, obviously we'll see 2158 01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:03,040 Halo what what whatever that does and there might be more. 2159 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:06,600 You know, her whispers that there might be more than just 2160 01:50:06,600 --> 01:50:09,040 that, which is insane to me, but we'll see. 2161 01:50:09,280 --> 01:50:13,320 You know what I mean, but. Of course it'll be the biggest 2162 01:50:13,720 --> 01:50:15,280 hit. Say they're all hit. 2163 01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,320 I I, I mean I still find it crazy that Gears of War would 2164 01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,720 even come out 2026. I didn't even put in my 2026 2165 01:50:20,720 --> 01:50:24,320 video. 20 year anniversary. So that's why I think that's 2166 01:50:24,320 --> 01:50:25,720 what I've always thought, because it's 20 year 2167 01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:28,200 anniversary. Crazy if it does, but if it 2168 01:50:28,200 --> 01:50:30,280 does. Oh, let me ask you this, let me 2169 01:50:30,280 --> 01:50:34,960 ask you this and and people was giving me shit for this. 2170 01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,400 Like I've thought just in my head for a while. 2171 01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:40,960 I go that Halo game is going to be in August this summer. 2172 01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:43,880 Fable seems like it's September, right? 2173 01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,840 Gears is probably October and I've amended it a little bit, 2174 01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:50,840 but I think Call of Duty is probably last week of October, 2175 01:50:50,840 --> 01:50:52,600 1st week of November up in there somewhere. 2176 01:50:52,880 --> 01:50:55,200 People think I'm fucking crazy. They're not going to put out 2177 01:50:55,200 --> 01:50:57,160 Call of Duty against Grand Theft Auto 6. 2178 01:50:57,200 --> 01:51:01,800 I go if there is any IP that you can release within a couple week 2179 01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:04,920 period of Grand Theft Auto 6, God damn Call of Duty. 2180 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:09,240 I don't understand why excuse me. 2181 01:51:09,240 --> 01:51:12,120 And I think Grand Theft Auto 6 obviously is is transcendent. 2182 01:51:12,440 --> 01:51:15,440 It's going to arguably be the biggest highest selling game in 2183 01:51:15,440 --> 01:51:18,920 history. I get all that, but it's Call of 2184 01:51:18,920 --> 01:51:20,960 Duty. And if this is a good Call of 2185 01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:25,120 Duty you, they're treating Grand Theft Auto like it's the 2186 01:51:25,120 --> 01:51:31,200 boogeyman, I think. And I don't think I I So no game 2187 01:51:31,200 --> 01:51:32,200 is going to come out in November. 2188 01:51:32,200 --> 01:51:33,800 I guess that's the argument I'm trying to say. 2189 01:51:33,840 --> 01:51:36,440 Right, There's still going to be something Call of Duty, it will 2190 01:51:36,440 --> 01:51:38,280 be shocking if Call of Duty didn't come out. 2191 01:51:38,360 --> 01:51:41,720 And Call of Duty, right, is a game that they just you just 2192 01:51:41,720 --> 01:51:45,800 release. And if it's a good one, then it 2193 01:51:45,800 --> 01:51:48,160 will do fine. It may have a massive hit in 2194 01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:52,040 sales, maybe a big dent because it's in the window of GTA 6 2195 01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:55,480 because that's how big it is going to be, but it will still 2196 01:51:55,480 --> 01:51:57,600 eventually just end up just soaring. 2197 01:51:57,600 --> 01:52:00,760 You don't stop COD. Because you play for the 2198 01:52:00,760 --> 01:52:03,600 multiplayer. Exactly and people will do that. 2199 01:52:03,600 --> 01:52:06,600 It's routine for them. So yeah, what's what's crazy, 2200 01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:10,040 what you suggested Halo. We know the the remake is coming 2201 01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:12,760 August, potentially even a freaking shadow drop. 2202 01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:16,120 I don't even know, but it's yeah, August. 2203 01:52:16,640 --> 01:52:22,960 So what the gears coming out is Gears Halo remake to say fuck 2204 01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:28,360 the remake but Gears, Fable, Forza and then Cod and then Halo 2205 01:52:28,360 --> 01:52:30,960 you put it all together that's 25th anniversary. 2206 01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:35,040 Like yo what? And if Gears say argument's 2207 01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,920 sake, I'm not saying this is going to happen but Gears hits a 2208 01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:40,000 night E plus Fable hits a night and Forza. 2209 01:52:40,520 --> 01:52:44,000 Xbox has never done that in God knows when or if ever. 2210 01:52:44,680 --> 01:52:50,280 So then Xbox, and I know Xbox and the rumblings from some 2211 01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:57,080 sources, you know, yeah. And studios work guys work the 2212 01:52:57,080 --> 01:52:59,320 mandate. The people at the studios at 2213 01:52:59,320 --> 01:53:01,520 Xbox feel it. They they are aware of it and 2214 01:53:01,520 --> 01:53:03,520 that the leaders speak to them about it. 2215 01:53:04,080 --> 01:53:08,160 Since last year, they have felt the negative pinch of the Xbox 2216 01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:11,440 fans receding away from the brand because of the combination 2217 01:53:11,440 --> 01:53:14,720 of the Game Pass price hike and a lot of goodwill lost in Xbox. 2218 01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:16,840 And generally as a band, the perception that people are 2219 01:53:16,840 --> 01:53:19,520 migrated. But there's a feeling now that, 2220 01:53:19,720 --> 01:53:22,320 you know, they have to go hard. And there were active 2221 01:53:22,320 --> 01:53:25,240 conversations about what they need to reveal and when. 2222 01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:28,240 I don't know how this happens, but apparently The Elder Scrolls 2223 01:53:28,240 --> 01:53:32,120 is ready to show and I don't know how that I don't know how. 2224 01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:35,440 It sounds so crazy to me I don't believe it, but Elder Scrolls I 2225 01:53:35,440 --> 01:53:35,960 don't. Believe. 2226 01:53:35,960 --> 01:53:38,040 I don't believe either. Yeah, I've heard that whisper 2227 01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:39,280 too. And I'm like, man, I don't 2228 01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:40,840 believe that. But they keep teasing his sick 2229 01:53:40,840 --> 01:53:43,960 shit, so there's something. The Elder Scrolls and I'm like, 2230 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:45,360 really? I still don't believe and my 2231 01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,440 source is legit. That's a he's just saying, look, 2232 01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:51,160 that's what they're saying that but but but what what, what that 2233 01:53:51,160 --> 01:53:53,800 means is the 25th anniversary, even on paper looks great. 2234 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:57,880 That means even if it doesn't pan out, they'll go hard on the 2235 01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:00,480 reveal this summer. That's what I've been told that 2236 01:54:00,480 --> 01:54:03,480 there was even talks about what to show with the the dev direct. 2237 01:54:03,480 --> 01:54:07,000 But the the, the the the showcase, the summer showcase. 2238 01:54:07,400 --> 01:54:10,120 It should be a big one. It should be a big one for Xbox, 2239 01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:12,840 at least in presentation, at least in whatever. 2240 01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:17,800 So, you know, and if Xbox does that and Xbox smashes it and it 2241 01:54:17,800 --> 01:54:22,640 shows these games, it's going to be, it's going to make a splash. 2242 01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:26,920 It's going to ratify Xbox and Xbox can use that to springboard 2243 01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,600 their announcement of the hardware, which is I'm sure is 2244 01:54:29,600 --> 01:54:32,040 going to be revealed this year. Unless they delayed it because 2245 01:54:32,040 --> 01:54:34,040 of RAM which is a big possibility. 2246 01:54:35,320 --> 01:54:37,560 I think you, I, I it's the 25th anniversary. 2247 01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:39,560 They're going to reveal it. You'll you'll see it there. 2248 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:41,440 Yeah. Because I don't think it was 2249 01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:43,960 coming out this year regardless. I think it was always holiday 2250 01:54:43,960 --> 01:54:48,760 2027, the RAM thing potentially not only just the RAM thing, but 2251 01:54:48,760 --> 01:54:52,080 if they can't get the Windows and everything they're doing 2252 01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:55,160 with Xbox UI right. I don't I don't think you 2253 01:54:55,160 --> 01:54:57,400 release it. I could see it being delayed as 2254 01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:00,160 a result to maybe spring 2028 because of that. 2255 01:55:00,160 --> 01:55:02,280 But but yeah, they'll show it this year. 2256 01:55:02,280 --> 01:55:04,000 We'll see it. We'll know what it is. 2257 01:55:04,080 --> 01:55:07,520 And then I'm imagining they do something similar what they did 2258 01:55:07,520 --> 01:55:10,400 with Project Scorpio, where you have like Todd Howard and these 2259 01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:13,160 other devs talk about all the amazing things they're going to 2260 01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:16,480 be able to do with Project Magnus or whatever the hell this 2261 01:55:16,480 --> 01:55:18,000 could be called, right? You know what I'm saying? 2262 01:55:18,320 --> 01:55:19,800 So we'll see. I rankle enough. 2263 01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,840 Jazz has said that that's not even the internal project name. 2264 01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:25,960 Yeah, I mean, it's an internal project now. 2265 01:55:25,960 --> 01:55:26,960 I don't know what the fuck it is. 2266 01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:29,520 Both me and you should be at GDC this year. 2267 01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:33,480 We can pick Jason Ronald's brain and have pester him. 2268 01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:35,720 I'll be right there in the front row. 2269 01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:39,800 Yeah, tell me everything. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. 2270 01:55:40,280 --> 01:55:42,720 Like after all the dust has settled, you know, with all 2271 01:55:42,720 --> 01:55:45,480 these different entrance. You, you pushed out a good tweet 2272 01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,600 with your video talking about how and. 2273 01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:51,120 And I really do appreciate this position now. 2274 01:55:51,560 --> 01:55:54,440 Xbox, PlayStation and Nintendo, they're all doing different 2275 01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,000 things. And. 2276 01:55:57,000 --> 01:55:59,960 You want that? And that's how you have to look 2277 01:55:59,960 --> 01:56:05,360 at it, that look, I, I get it, Xbox pulled a rug from everybody 2278 01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:09,360 and you're like, wait, what? Like I still don't agree that 2279 01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,160 they did it in the middle of a generation. 2280 01:56:11,160 --> 01:56:13,400 If they would have said, all right, as we go into the next 2281 01:56:13,400 --> 01:56:14,840 generation, we just put shit everywhere. 2282 01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:17,520 But now you get to make an informed choice. 2283 01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:20,800 Because I guarantee you there are people that would not have 2284 01:56:20,800 --> 01:56:24,320 bought a Series X in 2020 if they knew this, they would have 2285 01:56:24,320 --> 01:56:27,720 bought a PlayStation. So that's, that's where I, I 2286 01:56:27,720 --> 01:56:29,400 give them a lot of grief on that. 2287 01:56:29,880 --> 01:56:32,280 But it's happened now. I think people have had enough 2288 01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,240 time to understand it, adjust to it. 2289 01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:37,040 It's the new reality. And when you look at it that 2290 01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:41,760 way, if you don't like what Xbox is doing, they've just created 2291 01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,800 more access points. If you want to play Forza or 2292 01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:48,960 Gears, go get a PlayStation, then go get a PC streaming on 2293 01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:51,360 the cloud. They're they're telling you they 2294 01:56:51,360 --> 01:56:53,600 don't care how you access their games. 2295 01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:56,640 Just play our games, buy our games, subscribe or whatever the 2296 01:56:56,640 --> 01:56:58,640 hell, right? That's what they're doing. 2297 01:56:59,320 --> 01:57:02,600 Nintendo's the one that said, oh, no, you're buying a Switch. 2298 01:57:03,120 --> 01:57:04,800 You're buying a Switch if you want to play Mario. 2299 01:57:05,040 --> 01:57:08,040 Because even PlayStation has said, and then I said all this 2300 01:57:08,040 --> 01:57:10,200 in the video, but even Playstation's essentially told 2301 01:57:10,200 --> 01:57:13,480 you if you're patient and you wait, you can go play Ghost of 2302 01:57:13,480 --> 01:57:16,040 Yote on PC or Spider Man or whatever the hell. 2303 01:57:16,040 --> 01:57:18,280 We're not going to stop you. We'll let you cloud stream, 2304 01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:19,880 right? We're putting our live service 2305 01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:22,240 games on Xbox. We're fine. 2306 01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:26,840 You get to choose. So the the exact literal words 2307 01:57:26,840 --> 01:57:31,280 were wherever there is computers computing, gamers will be able 2308 01:57:31,280 --> 01:57:33,760 to play their favourite games seamlessly. 2309 01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:37,360 That's Xbox is almost modern, but that's Sony's exec. 2310 01:57:37,600 --> 01:57:40,800 They're just bidding time until they they, they do it. 2311 01:57:41,320 --> 01:57:43,960 Look, I know that doesn't fit into the console war narrative, 2312 01:57:43,960 --> 01:57:45,960 but it's just the reality of where we are now. 2313 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:48,680 But it. Is it is. 2314 01:57:49,640 --> 01:57:53,680 Yeah, play with everyone like like I say I I'm thankful I own 2315 01:57:53,680 --> 01:57:55,200 them all so it doesn't matter to me. 2316 01:57:55,200 --> 01:58:00,040 I play whatever whenever. But if I could only I'll say 2317 01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:01,480 this and I'm sure y'all clip this shit. 2318 01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:06,600 If I could only buy 1 device like that's all I can afford. 2319 01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:09,520 I could only afford one thing in 2026. 2320 01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:11,240 You probably are buying a PlayStation. 2321 01:58:11,320 --> 01:58:14,640 Not including PC. I'm thinking PC is pretty 2322 01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,000 expensive. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm thinking 2323 01:58:17,000 --> 01:58:19,320 on the console side, but but yeah, yeah, to to your point, 2324 01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:24,320 get APC, you're getting 90% of everything with APC. 2325 01:58:24,920 --> 01:58:27,000 Might as well get APC. But I'm saying I have a console. 2326 01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:29,760 If I can only afford 1 console I'm probably getting a 2327 01:58:29,760 --> 01:58:33,840 PlayStation because Xbox has told me those games will be 2328 01:58:33,840 --> 01:58:36,640 there. A. 100% I'll do the same if it's 2329 01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:38,720 just console. If it just goes, of course I'll 2330 01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:41,640 buy PlayStation, Xbox. Xbox treats its own console as 2331 01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:43,840 third class citizens. I'm not fucking buying the 2332 01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,720 console to be a victim. I'm playing the PlayStation and 2333 01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:48,440 the pro. Affordability. 2334 01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:49,760 Or what? If you say the price, there's a 2335 01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:50,760 price. But yeah, of course the 2336 01:58:50,760 --> 01:58:52,600 PlayStation. But. 2337 01:58:52,920 --> 01:58:56,360 But even with that said, there's people and you know, I listen to 2338 01:58:56,360 --> 01:58:58,200 some other shows and stuff, people talking about this. 2339 01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:01,200 People are going to buy. There's people that love Xbox 2340 01:59:01,200 --> 01:59:03,200 and the services and everything that Xbox does. 2341 01:59:03,200 --> 01:59:06,160 They're going to go buy an Xbox because that's what they like, 2342 01:59:06,840 --> 01:59:08,800 damn what other people think. And that's fine. 2343 01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:13,360 But it's like do what you want. Next Gen, if you're going to say 2344 01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:15,480 which hardware are you going to buy? 2345 01:59:16,200 --> 01:59:18,760 Although the price afford, forget the affordability thing, 2346 01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:22,560 it's the price. Yeah, but if they say, hey, PS6, 2347 01:59:22,760 --> 01:59:25,840 the next Xbox and well, the Switch 2 is already out, which 2348 01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,800 one are you going to buy? I'm obviously going to buy the 2349 01:59:28,800 --> 01:59:31,520 Xbox. It's because it's the PC and 2350 01:59:31,520 --> 01:59:35,040 it's a hybrid device and I'm playing most of your PlayStation 2351 01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:37,160 games on there, then it switches on its head. 2352 01:59:37,160 --> 01:59:41,000 Bram, if you don't want to admit it, obviously buy an Xbox At 2353 01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:42,960 that point, you guys say it's not really an Xbox. 2354 01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,920 Whatever fucking definitions you want to play, the next Xbox 2355 01:59:45,920 --> 01:59:47,480 console is going to play play PlayStation games. 2356 01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:50,840 Most of them are on PC. Yeah, so shut the fuck up and Bo 2357 01:59:50,840 --> 01:59:55,960 buy it 100% but the price and then they'll be the the golf 2358 01:59:55,960 --> 02:00:00,240 post will change the price first that bollocks now, then it's and 2359 02:00:00,360 --> 02:00:03,040 on paper, of course, Xbox is going to be more viable. 2360 02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,440 It's going to run steam. It's going to have epic game 2361 02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:09,280 launcher apparently as well. And they're they're talking 2362 02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:13,480 about it already and it's basically APC and I'm on PC all 2363 02:00:13,480 --> 02:00:16,000 the way. Of course it's the next Xbox. 2364 02:00:16,200 --> 02:00:19,080 Why would I buy APS 6 instead of that? 2365 02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:24,600 If it was only one choice. So it's, it's funny, isn't it? 2366 02:00:24,600 --> 02:00:29,280 It's, it's, it's a weird 1 and I that transition is kind of 2367 02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:32,000 almost like leaving us to where the studios, the industry was 2368 02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:34,360 inevitably going to end up. Actually, in a way a lot of 2369 02:00:34,360 --> 02:00:36,760 people have been talking about the end of that kind of stuff, 2370 02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,800 which I obviously I'm not a fan of, but it's it's weird. 2371 02:00:40,880 --> 02:00:43,480 DJ Marshman says the youth and casuals won't be able to afford 2372 02:00:43,480 --> 02:00:45,480 it. Series X dev mode has already 2373 02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:49,360 Serial has dev mode already. Well, I mean affordability, 2374 02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:52,080 absolutely. It's going to be a niche, but. 2375 02:00:52,240 --> 02:00:52,880 You know it is. It's. 2376 02:00:53,080 --> 02:00:56,480 Going to be like the Alienware of console gaming, perhaps, if 2377 02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:59,360 that's the only I don't similarity I can draw to, but 2378 02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:02,400 premium grade. All you guys who argue about 2379 02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:05,320 consoles, you know for a fact you want a premium based console 2380 02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:08,320 Nibs, you know for a fact you want to JW. 2381 02:01:08,320 --> 02:01:11,560 You won't even admit. I know for a fact you want that 2382 02:01:11,560 --> 02:01:14,840 shit day one king flash. Of course you would, but you 2383 02:01:14,840 --> 02:01:17,440 will never admit it. Of course you want a premium 2384 02:01:17,440 --> 02:01:20,320 grade bit of hardware, but it doesn't have dedicated. 2385 02:01:20,320 --> 02:01:23,760 It's not a console. I know the reality, man, I know 2386 02:01:23,760 --> 02:01:25,920 the truth. You want that shit, but that's 2387 02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:28,800 what that's that's where we are. Games are going to be doing the 2388 02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,200 talking summer game fest. We're going to see if Stay Mid 2389 02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:34,320 was OK and Paris Lily endorses that. 2390 02:01:36,040 --> 02:01:40,240 I did. Not, but it was such a good chat 2391 02:01:40,240 --> 02:01:41,160 man. Is there anything else that you 2392 02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:42,480 want to talk about? What else is there like we 2393 02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:44,360 haven't covered everything. It's quite a decent. 2394 02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:46,360 No, I think we pretty much covered everything. 2395 02:01:46,360 --> 02:01:48,880 Obviously, I know you and I had been been talking for the past 2396 02:01:48,880 --> 02:01:51,360 few weeks, you know, trying to figure this out, just schedules 2397 02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:52,840 and everything and had been crazy. 2398 02:01:52,840 --> 02:01:56,000 But no, I'm I'm glad we got a chance to talk and it's I'm 2399 02:01:58,400 --> 02:01:59,960 trying to be careful what I say. Say it, man. 2400 02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:02,400 There's no, no philtre. Go on. 2401 02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:06,160 No, no, no, no, no. It's just a thing of I hope 2402 02:02:06,160 --> 02:02:10,200 moving forward a lot of the and it won't happen. 2403 02:02:10,200 --> 02:02:12,000 I guess that's why I'm trying to be careful what I'm saying, but 2404 02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:17,000 I wish there was a world where a lot of the arguing over gaming 2405 02:02:17,000 --> 02:02:19,760 and this platform that point. I just wish that shit would go 2406 02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:24,960 away because everything that we just talked about yeah, it 2407 02:02:24,960 --> 02:02:27,760 doesn't matter. I'll end I'll end on this. 2408 02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:31,160 I'll end on this arc Raiders. I I I need to play more. 2409 02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:33,680 I I really love the game. I enjoy the game. 2410 02:02:33,680 --> 02:02:36,440 It's fantastic. A fucking maniac. 2411 02:02:36,440 --> 02:02:40,560 I just want to say that to you directly and and and I know 2412 02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:43,560 people give you grief for being the villain that you are in 2413 02:02:43,560 --> 02:02:46,560 there like Oh no, no, but I get it. 2414 02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:49,440 It's a part of the gameplay loop of it right. 2415 02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:52,200 Trust me, when I do play my head's on the friggins. 2416 02:02:52,200 --> 02:02:55,000 Well, I don't trust nobody. Nobody. 2417 02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:58,520 You know what I'm saying? I love, I love you so. 2418 02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:01,480 I get it, I I get it. You're, you're really just 2419 02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:04,240 playing into that role. And I get that that rubs some 2420 02:03:04,240 --> 02:03:07,960 people the wrong way, but the game is designed for people to 2421 02:03:07,960 --> 02:03:10,080 be able to do that. That's a part of the gameplay 2422 02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:12,120 loop. And that's where I hope we see 2423 02:03:12,120 --> 02:03:14,280 some of that in Marathon as well, especially since they're 2424 02:03:14,280 --> 02:03:19,080 going to have that solo queue, man, that's that's gonna be 2425 02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:19,640 brutal. That's a good. 2426 02:03:19,640 --> 02:03:22,560 Point actually, I didn't think about that the solo queue where 2427 02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:25,120 you don't have that much gear, but you log you go into games 2428 02:03:25,120 --> 02:03:27,320 where there may be trios and full squads. 2429 02:03:28,280 --> 02:03:31,120 The solos might be like, hey, I'm friendly, friendly and me 2430 02:03:31,120 --> 02:03:34,360 and my group, we're just gonna freaking go ape shit on that guy 2431 02:03:34,360 --> 02:03:36,440 that's. What I'm saying, we'll not 2432 02:03:36,440 --> 02:03:38,960 trust. You I love being the bad guy 2433 02:03:38,960 --> 02:03:42,440 that game and you know, but this is where people can't it's an 2434 02:03:42,440 --> 02:03:44,080 extension of the discourse online. 2435 02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:47,600 People can't separate the the gaming element of the discourse 2436 02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:50,640 of it with real life. Like add people that come on my 2437 02:03:50,640 --> 02:03:53,160 show called literally call me. You're a terrible human being, 2438 02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,920 and I'm like, and I'm sitting there just wanking off to these 2439 02:03:56,920 --> 02:03:59,240 comments. Keep going, man, just fucking 2440 02:03:59,240 --> 02:04:01,960 say I'm a piece of shit. Yes, you're a piece of shit 2441 02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:03,640 human being. You'll be just like this in real 2442 02:04:03,640 --> 02:04:05,840 life. I'm like, you know what's The 2443 02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:07,240 funny thing is I'll just end on this. 2444 02:04:08,040 --> 02:04:11,280 The game is about loot. When I kill you and betray you, 2445 02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:15,720 you lose stuff. And for me as as genuinely it's 2446 02:04:15,760 --> 02:04:20,800 or actually a meta commentary on you want to work together to get 2447 02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:24,280 more things. And I think it's such the and 2448 02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:28,080 it's an absolute meta commentary on how people are obsessed with 2449 02:04:28,240 --> 02:04:32,080 things, even virtual things that they want to extract in a 20 to 2450 02:04:32,080 --> 02:04:36,760 30 minute game session that they put so much value into it that 2451 02:04:36,760 --> 02:04:39,720 they feel so slighted that I betrayed them. 2452 02:04:39,720 --> 02:04:43,400 And that's apparently an indication of my personality in 2453 02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:46,480 in real life. But in real life, I'm a mug. 2454 02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:49,680 When I go out of my way, I don't make my what am I? 2455 02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:52,320 It's arguments about who pays. I'll pay for everyone. 2456 02:04:52,320 --> 02:04:54,520 I don't like doing that. I'm the most generous person out 2457 02:04:54,520 --> 02:04:56,480 there. By the way, him and I almost got 2458 02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:59,240 in a fight over there for real in real life paying. 2459 02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:00,600 I go, I go. What the fuck are you doing? 2460 02:05:00,600 --> 02:05:03,360 Let me let me let me say this to what you were saying, because I 2461 02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:06,920 actually think this is a good point of of separating online 2462 02:05:06,920 --> 02:05:10,400 and gaming versus reality. And you and I met in person 2463 02:05:10,440 --> 02:05:11,880 broke bread. You know, you had your friends 2464 02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:13,400 there the whole thing. It was it was great time. 2465 02:05:13,480 --> 02:05:15,080 We had a great evening hanging out. 2466 02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:19,480 And that's kind of the point. The real life. 2467 02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:21,800 This is not real life, I guess, right. 2468 02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:26,720 Like I said, Gaz in person is this is not Gaz in person. 2469 02:05:26,720 --> 02:05:29,480 I'm, I'm just telling you this right now, completely different 2470 02:05:29,480 --> 02:05:31,440 person, you know, in in real life. 2471 02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:34,520 And people need to understand that that like again, playing a 2472 02:05:34,520 --> 02:05:36,240 game like arc Raiders and doing that stuff. 2473 02:05:36,600 --> 02:05:39,160 It's whatever, man. It's like, OK, you're an asshole 2474 02:05:39,160 --> 02:05:42,280 in the game, all right, now I know you're an asshole. 2475 02:05:42,280 --> 02:05:45,400 I'm shooting you on site kind of thing. 2476 02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:47,160 And then this is how I look at it. 2477 02:05:47,160 --> 02:05:49,440 Personally, I don't, I don't take that stuff to heart. 2478 02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:53,120 I don't think that defines you as a person, you know, in real 2479 02:05:53,120 --> 02:05:56,240 life or anything like that. But some people take the stuff 2480 02:05:56,240 --> 02:05:58,880 away too seriously. And I think that's how I look at 2481 02:05:59,440 --> 02:06:02,000 before I forget because I saw someone say this in the chat. 2482 02:06:02,000 --> 02:06:04,200 I didn't mean to bring this up. Crimson Desert, What do you 2483 02:06:04,200 --> 02:06:07,800 think of it? I bro that's a very good point. 2484 02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:11,480 It could either be an incredible game of the year contender, 2485 02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:14,840 we've never been completely written off, or it's just going 2486 02:06:14,840 --> 02:06:21,360 to be a fucking a literal jumble of disconcerted ideas that just 2487 02:06:21,360 --> 02:06:23,200 shout out and it's going to be a mess. 2488 02:06:23,760 --> 02:06:26,440 It can't be, it can't be middle of the oh, it's actually a 2489 02:06:26,440 --> 02:06:30,440 decent no, no, it's either really amazing or just a bold 2490 02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:33,080 but just fractured mess. That's what it's going to be. 2491 02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:35,200 I. I I'm actually genuinely excited 2492 02:06:35,200 --> 02:06:37,400 to review this game for everything that you just said 2493 02:06:37,400 --> 02:06:39,680 because you'd look at it. I'm like man, this looks really 2494 02:06:39,680 --> 02:06:43,880 great to the point where this this seems too good to be true. 2495 02:06:43,880 --> 02:06:46,040 That's exactly actually genuinely seems too good to be 2496 02:06:46,040 --> 02:06:47,680 true. I don't know what it is. 2497 02:06:47,720 --> 02:06:50,680 I just you know, The thing is, on the one hand, developers kept 2498 02:06:50,680 --> 02:06:52,800 delaying it. It's been in a development for 2499 02:06:52,800 --> 02:06:54,760 ages. Every time they develop, delay 2500 02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:57,680 it, put a new feature and obviously saw Zelda at breath of 2501 02:06:57,680 --> 02:06:58,880 the wild and tears of the Kingdom. 2502 02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:01,800 They delayed it, added more features in the how does it all 2503 02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:04,720 work together? Like is this actually a legit So 2504 02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:07,320 it feels scammy, but they've delayed it. 2505 02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:08,360 They've not asked for more money. 2506 02:07:08,360 --> 02:07:10,280 It's not like Star Citizen where they're getting kick start 2507 02:07:10,280 --> 02:07:12,880 funding. Is it going to be fucking? 2508 02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:15,520 I don't know. I generally do you get, do you 2509 02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:16,840 get access? Are you going to have a review 2510 02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:18,520 code for that game? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2511 02:07:18,520 --> 02:07:19,640 I'm going to, I'm going to review it. 2512 02:07:20,800 --> 02:07:23,720 I like, and I'm because I haven't played previews, none of 2513 02:07:23,720 --> 02:07:25,280 that. Because every time I could have 2514 02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:26,880 gone to a preview event, something's happened. 2515 02:07:26,880 --> 02:07:28,960 I haven't gone. But I do know, like, because you 2516 02:07:28,960 --> 02:07:31,800 know, Willpowers has been doing the rounds as far as doing all 2517 02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:33,760 the interview stuff, which I've known him forever. 2518 02:07:34,640 --> 02:07:36,360 I mean, he's he's a genuine dude. 2519 02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:38,720 He's not going to try and trick people or whatever, right? 2520 02:07:38,720 --> 02:07:41,680 So it's like, I'm here, like I, I, I watched the interview he 2521 02:07:41,680 --> 02:07:46,000 did with Destin and I'm like, OK, I know will, I believe will, 2522 02:07:46,560 --> 02:07:48,240 but God damn, this looks too good to be true. 2523 02:07:48,320 --> 02:07:49,960 All right, I, I'm in, I want to play it. 2524 02:07:50,080 --> 02:07:52,280 I want to play this. Everything that keeps showing 2525 02:07:52,280 --> 02:07:53,680 for it. I'm like, all right, I got to 2526 02:07:53,680 --> 02:07:55,360 play this because I can't believe it. 2527 02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:58,960 My only thing, and, and Danny and I were talking about this 2528 02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:02,640 last week, is they've yet to show the console versions that 2529 02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:06,520 that that's my only OK, I need to see this running on APS 5 or 2530 02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:08,920 an Xbox. They've only showed PC, which 2531 02:08:09,000 --> 02:08:11,800 obviously they're going to show it looking great, but how does 2532 02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:13,720 it run on a PlayStation 5 and an Xbox? 2533 02:08:13,720 --> 02:08:15,920 I want to see that. So yeah, we'll see. 2534 02:08:16,560 --> 02:08:19,160 I, I I suspect it'll run like Arsenal consoles, but let's see 2535 02:08:19,280 --> 02:08:21,520 because the Korean developers don't prioritise PC more. 2536 02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,440 Before we go, we got a truck net with a $5 super chat. 2537 02:08:24,440 --> 02:08:26,680 Sorry, I just really get late because Destin's interview with 2538 02:08:26,680 --> 02:08:30,360 Phil, he said that their games will show up in more places but 2539 02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:33,000 are going to compete with, but they're going to compete with, 2540 02:08:33,080 --> 02:08:35,920 you know, on hardware, power and innovation. 2541 02:08:37,360 --> 02:08:37,840 Phil. Phil. 2542 02:08:38,000 --> 02:08:39,960 OK I got an issue. I got an issue with that super 2543 02:08:39,960 --> 02:08:40,800 chat. What? 2544 02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:42,040 What's that? Why? 2545 02:08:42,040 --> 02:08:44,280 Why I got to be with Destin? I asked him the goddamn 2546 02:08:44,280 --> 02:08:45,920 question. I asked him that question. 2547 02:08:45,920 --> 02:08:47,160 Too. Oh yeah, you did. 2548 02:08:47,600 --> 02:08:51,240 Why? Why I said no flowers for you? 2549 02:08:52,120 --> 02:08:54,080 Because he did all those interviews all at once and we 2550 02:08:54,080 --> 02:08:55,080 all put them out at the same time. 2551 02:08:55,080 --> 02:08:56,640 I totally get it. But but no, he's right. 2552 02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:58,800 I mean, that's I asked that question to Phil. 2553 02:08:58,800 --> 02:09:01,640 The Destin asked it too. Yeah, all right. 2554 02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:03,280 You're putting all these games everywhere. 2555 02:09:03,280 --> 02:09:05,160 Why the hell am I buying an Xbox, then? 2556 02:09:05,280 --> 02:09:07,880 That that was his answer. That I remember, I remember it 2557 02:09:07,880 --> 02:09:10,720 was your your interview, like you asked him straight up not 2558 02:09:10,720 --> 02:09:12,600 even coddled it. You basically said, well, why 2559 02:09:12,600 --> 02:09:16,080 would I buy an Xbox? And that was his answer. 2560 02:09:16,240 --> 02:09:19,040 And I want to see the proof of Booth and thank you for that 2561 02:09:19,040 --> 02:09:25,120 super chat because that reminds us that he said that and we need 2562 02:09:25,120 --> 02:09:28,440 to put him to task on that because the innovation, I mean 2563 02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:32,400 by I mean by default, actually Xbox is innovating because 2564 02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:34,440 they're doing something that hasn't been done before by 2565 02:09:34,440 --> 02:09:36,480 virtue of having this hybrid console. 2566 02:09:36,800 --> 02:09:40,600 So open platform there. Yeah, but they also admit that 2567 02:09:40,600 --> 02:09:41,760 this is going to be a niche product. 2568 02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:44,080 Sarah Bond has said that outwardly, like this is going to 2569 02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:45,720 be an expense. Well, it didn't say expensive, 2570 02:09:45,720 --> 02:09:47,280 but a premium product. And. 2571 02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:49,840 And you know what? I would do the same thing. 2572 02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:53,160 You forsaken exclusivity. I want the best Creme, the like 2573 02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,120 Creme of hardware for the hardcore. 2574 02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:58,200 That's the one. So let's see. 2575 02:09:58,480 --> 02:10:01,200 Essentially, essentially it comes down to this, all right, 2576 02:10:01,200 --> 02:10:03,600 if you're doing this, if you're making this boutique hardware, 2577 02:10:03,600 --> 02:10:06,560 this premium hardware, all right, no compromises, then 2578 02:10:07,000 --> 02:10:09,360 yeah, I want, I want this thing throwing heat. 2579 02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:13,560 I want this thing to make me look at my gaming PC with a side 2580 02:10:13,560 --> 02:10:17,000 ad like really I can do maybe I'm not playing on you, then 2581 02:10:17,000 --> 02:10:18,040 maybe I'm just going to play on this. 2582 02:10:18,320 --> 02:10:20,640 I want to have that conversation, but it's going to 2583 02:10:20,640 --> 02:10:23,640 come at A at A at a price. And that's just what people need 2584 02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:25,160 to realise that it's not going to be cheap. 2585 02:10:25,160 --> 02:10:26,760 This thing will be 1000 plus dollars. 2586 02:10:27,160 --> 02:10:28,760 Absolutely. Absolutely. 2587 02:10:29,080 --> 02:10:33,120 But it also forget the pick PC comparison because obviously the 2588 02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:35,680 the PCs will cost 5 grand the the equivalent ones. 2589 02:10:36,200 --> 02:10:38,400 All the consoles can tap into a little a little bit more. 2590 02:10:38,400 --> 02:10:43,400 But then it's also a hybrid. It needs to be massively 2591 02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:46,640 upgraded over the PS6. It needs to be massively more 2592 02:10:46,640 --> 02:10:52,520 performant or sig like observably more performant than 2593 02:10:52,520 --> 02:10:54,720 the PS6. It can't we cannot have a repeat 2594 02:10:54,720 --> 02:10:58,160 of the series X with its, you know, meandering power 2595 02:10:58,160 --> 02:11:01,680 differences often where the PS-5 was doing better at frame rate 2596 02:11:01,680 --> 02:11:04,920 and things like that. It needs to be a market jump up 2597 02:11:05,680 --> 02:11:07,720 unless the PS6 is also very expensive so. 2598 02:11:08,640 --> 02:11:12,080 And see, and I think, I think the PlayStation Six, it ain't 2599 02:11:12,080 --> 02:11:14,040 going to be $500. It'll be more than that. 2600 02:11:14,320 --> 02:11:18,320 But I, I think they will still keep it more competitive because 2601 02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:22,000 I think they're still trying to obviously sell this thing to the 2602 02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:24,240 masses. I could see it being as much as 2603 02:11:24,240 --> 02:11:27,440 800, like 799 or something like that out the box. 2604 02:11:27,600 --> 02:11:31,720 But to that point, if a PlayStation 6 is 799 and let's 2605 02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:35,960 just say the next Xbox is 1299, I better, I better see with my 2606 02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:39,080 eyeballs that price difference. I better see the performance, 2607 02:11:39,240 --> 02:11:41,560 the frames, all that, the ray trade, all these things that 2608 02:11:41,560 --> 02:11:44,440 they potentially could be doing. I better visually be able to 2609 02:11:44,440 --> 02:11:47,840 see, yeah, this is worth me spending that amount of money on 2610 02:11:47,840 --> 02:11:49,680 it or people aren't going to go buy it. 2611 02:11:50,040 --> 02:11:52,560 Absolutely. It needs to and for that price 2612 02:11:52,760 --> 02:11:56,320 tag, you need to justify it. And, and, and and Xbox this time 2613 02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:59,240 I think, well, neither is Sony, but Xbox not going to take a hit 2614 02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:00,080 on the price. They're not. 2615 02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:02,680 They're going to sell this and make a profit because they're 2616 02:12:02,680 --> 02:12:05,880 taking fat hits on the series. It's $100 per unit. 2617 02:12:06,640 --> 02:12:08,680 Well, that's why they've been raising the price on the Series 2618 02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:11,640 X and all that now, because you see people need to listen to 2619 02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:15,040 Phil Phil's has been telling us this stuff for the past few 2620 02:12:15,040 --> 02:12:17,040 years. It was wasn't last GDC. 2621 02:12:17,040 --> 02:12:20,240 I think it was 2 GDCS ago. He goes, is it getting harder 2622 02:12:20,240 --> 02:12:21,880 and harder? So, so that's his hardware. 2623 02:12:21,960 --> 02:12:23,960 He said it right. Then I go oh man is. 2624 02:12:24,080 --> 02:12:24,600 That what? He said. 2625 02:12:24,640 --> 02:12:26,880 I don't remember that. He said that. 2626 02:12:26,880 --> 02:12:31,760 I want to say it was two years ago, I want to say it was 2024. 2627 02:12:32,080 --> 02:12:35,160 But he did say it's getting harder to subsidise his 2628 02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:38,720 hardware, said it. It's Microsoft's fault the 2629 02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:41,280 software was banging is on the on on all cylinders. 2630 02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:42,760 Then they could subsidised it quite easily. 2631 02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:45,440 But they didn't. Yeah, but that's that's Phil's 2632 02:12:45,440 --> 02:12:47,800 problem or Xbox's problem and their fault. 2633 02:12:48,360 --> 02:12:50,640 And now they're not doing that, they're not subsidising the the 2634 02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:53,280 hardware. So at the very performance 2635 02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:55,840 level, it needs to be a market difference of the PS6. 2636 02:12:55,840 --> 02:12:59,160 If it's much more expensive and much more powerful on on specs, 2637 02:12:59,160 --> 02:13:01,000 I agree. So it'll be interesting. 2638 02:13:01,080 --> 02:13:02,960 There is going to be an interesting landscape. 2639 02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:06,920 All three are like you said and check out your video, are doing 2640 02:13:06,920 --> 02:13:08,680 everything very different and that's what we want. 2641 02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:11,560 We don't want the same shit, like barely distinguishable 2642 02:13:11,560 --> 02:13:13,160 stuff. It's different. 2643 02:13:13,560 --> 02:13:17,400 My Xbox is in bed, like in the hardware space but in the 2644 02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,720 premium level and that I want to see what they do. 2645 02:13:20,720 --> 02:13:24,080 Nintendo's doing its own thing and PlayStation is Kellogg's. 2646 02:13:25,480 --> 02:13:28,760 And on that note. See, look at the chat. 2647 02:13:28,760 --> 02:13:29,920 See. Talking shit again. 2648 02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:35,280 It, it is hilarious to me. Yeah, Cyberpunk is five years 2649 02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:36,600 old now. It's over five years ago. 2650 02:13:36,600 --> 02:13:39,160 This is over five years ago. Are there somebody else 2651 02:13:39,160 --> 02:13:41,880 cyberpunk? And people because he he said, 2652 02:13:41,880 --> 02:13:44,840 this guy says when you book an Xbox flight pod, you can 2653 02:13:44,840 --> 02:13:46,560 personalise the cease to be yellow. 2654 02:13:52,360 --> 02:13:54,040 Here's the thing. Here's the here's the thing 2655 02:13:54,040 --> 02:13:56,080 about going back to that I I wouldn't change anything. 2656 02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,120 I would. I wouldn't change the thing. 2657 02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:00,840 What'd you do? Well, well, you got to remember 2658 02:14:00,840 --> 02:14:04,920 I, I previewed it and this was the pandemic, so it was all 2659 02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:07,520 cloud streaming. I'd I'd previewed it with CD 2660 02:14:07,520 --> 02:14:12,000 Project Red and then their launch event, I hosted it on 2661 02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:14,280 Twitter. It was, it was over Twitter, 2662 02:14:14,280 --> 02:14:17,600 right? So I am forever tied to that 2663 02:14:17,600 --> 02:14:21,320 game and everything that, you know, subsequently happened at 2664 02:14:21,320 --> 02:14:22,720 that launch. And to your point, obviously I 2665 02:14:22,720 --> 02:14:25,440 didn't recommend the game, you know, because of all those 2666 02:14:25,440 --> 02:14:27,160 issues. So I get it. 2667 02:14:27,160 --> 02:14:29,320 But it's always just funny. Oh, and then obviously me and 2668 02:14:29,320 --> 02:14:31,760 Jason Schreyer got into it. So that didn't help either. 2669 02:14:34,280 --> 02:14:38,000 So it was something they announced they went gold. 2670 02:14:38,000 --> 02:14:42,400 This was like in October of 2020 and then Jason Schreyer either 2671 02:14:42,400 --> 02:14:45,720 put out an article or were saying something about crunch 2672 02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:48,840 and was and I and I, I. Had said to him. 2673 02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:51,160 Damn. I like Dan. 2674 02:14:51,160 --> 02:14:54,480 You can't at least just give him a day, you know, to celebrate or 2675 02:14:54,480 --> 02:14:57,280 something like that. And this is how petty and Jason 2676 02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:59,120 and I are cool now, so this is not even a big deal. 2677 02:14:59,400 --> 02:15:03,760 But he was so petty. He found where I had posted 2678 02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,520 pictures of the chair and I think they had sent me all this 2679 02:15:06,520 --> 02:15:10,680 swag stuff where I had posted it and he was like, oh, and look at 2680 02:15:10,680 --> 02:15:11,920 you and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 2681 02:15:11,920 --> 02:15:14,240 So people were coming at me and they were pissed or whatever. 2682 02:15:14,240 --> 02:15:16,720 Yeah, you. Got merge by the volus, that's 2683 02:15:16,720 --> 02:15:21,200 mad. But you know it's a. 2684 02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:25,280 Pain guy I know he is. No, but him and I have actually 2685 02:15:25,280 --> 02:15:26,960 talked again. We talk privately. 2686 02:15:27,000 --> 02:15:29,000 Because you beat the shit out of him. 2687 02:15:29,040 --> 02:15:32,320 Remember the muscles? Yeah, bro, He's, he's built like 2688 02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:34,280 Joe Pesci. You're built like freaking Diva. 2689 02:15:34,280 --> 02:15:35,240 There's a difference, man. No. 2690 02:15:35,240 --> 02:15:39,600 No, no, no, no, no, but but but being serious, though, no, him 2691 02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:41,680 and him and I have talked. We're we're we're cool Anytime I 2692 02:15:41,680 --> 02:15:43,720 see him now in an event where we always take a minute. 2693 02:15:43,720 --> 02:15:45,680 Hey, how you doing kind of thing out of the family doing all that 2694 02:15:45,680 --> 02:15:48,280 stuff, but it it was just a moment in time. 2695 02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:51,960 This is funny. So as a result, I always get 2696 02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:54,400 shit for the cyberpunk chair because of it. 2697 02:15:54,520 --> 02:16:00,400 Matter of fact, fuck. You did this job. 2698 02:16:01,440 --> 02:16:06,040 There we go Jason Schrein, just take that bro. 2699 02:16:06,360 --> 02:16:10,520 The yellow chair is back right at the end from actually looks 2700 02:16:10,520 --> 02:16:12,200 really nice. It's a nice. 2701 02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:14,760 I just I sit the Logitech chair is just more comfortable. 2702 02:16:14,760 --> 02:16:19,280 That's why I was sitting there. Bro, I'm I'm, I'm never getting 2703 02:16:19,280 --> 02:16:22,200 rid of this ever because you shouldn't, just because of that, 2704 02:16:22,240 --> 02:16:24,160 just because of people talking. Shit about it I like. 2705 02:16:24,280 --> 02:16:27,720 Funnily enough, your video and your branding still have 2706 02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:31,560 cyberpunk elements in it. Yeah, which I don't blame it. 2707 02:16:31,560 --> 02:16:32,719 I like, I like, I love the cyber. 2708 02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:38,240 Which again, I don't because bro, I was super like I'm a fan. 2709 02:16:38,240 --> 02:16:40,879 I was a fan of it at the time because coming off The Witcher 2710 02:16:40,879 --> 02:16:44,200 3, obviously I was and I had that viral video when they 2711 02:16:44,200 --> 02:16:46,719 showed it off at E3 and all that stuff. 2712 02:16:46,719 --> 02:16:51,000 That's why I was able to, you know, essentially get access 2713 02:16:51,040 --> 02:16:53,799 into with CD Project Red and be able to preview it and do all 2714 02:16:53,799 --> 02:16:57,040 that stuff. But yeah, I mean, it sucks that 2715 02:16:57,040 --> 02:16:59,879 it launched the way that it did, but I don't shy away from that. 2716 02:16:59,879 --> 02:17:02,719 That's why it was cool. Last year I went, I went to, I 2717 02:17:02,719 --> 02:17:05,600 was in Poland, I was in Warsaw. So I went to the studio for the 2718 02:17:05,600 --> 02:17:07,400 first time. I got the tour, I got to see a 2719 02:17:07,400 --> 02:17:10,080 bunch of people talk all that. And The funny thing is, this 2720 02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:13,040 yellow chair is everywhere in the studio. 2721 02:17:13,639 --> 02:17:14,920 You're at home when you went there. 2722 02:17:15,160 --> 02:17:20,040 You're like holy shit. They got the yellow chairs 2723 02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:21,959 everywhere. That's brilliant. 2724 02:17:22,559 --> 02:17:25,480 And, and and they're even in on the joke because at one point, I 2725 02:17:25,480 --> 02:17:28,160 forget what it was, but the official cyberpunk count, I know 2726 02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:31,160 who runs it, but he was even like, yeah, the only thing we 2727 02:17:31,160 --> 02:17:34,120 can give you is a yellow chair. Yeah, I. 2728 02:17:36,639 --> 02:17:40,520 Love that man, I love that they seem like pretty chill people as 2729 02:17:40,520 --> 02:17:41,840 well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 2730 02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:43,879 And. You know, Cyberpunk is not a 2731 02:17:43,879 --> 02:17:48,120 game to be ashamed of repping now because Cyberpunk is one of 2732 02:17:48,120 --> 02:17:50,440 the best games of Phantom Liberty. 2733 02:17:50,600 --> 02:17:53,200 The the, the, the come up for CD project. 2734 02:17:53,200 --> 02:17:55,760 How they fix it? Incredible, incredible title. 2735 02:17:55,799 --> 02:17:57,600 Yeah. It it, it was a thing of the 2736 02:17:57,600 --> 02:18:00,360 game should not have come out in the state that it did. 2737 02:18:00,480 --> 02:18:04,320 It needed more time and who knows ultimately what all the 2738 02:18:04,320 --> 02:18:06,559 reasons were. I mean, I'm sure there was, you 2739 02:18:06,559 --> 02:18:08,959 know, shareholders and all that stuff. 2740 02:18:08,959 --> 02:18:10,719 Why they probably put it out when they did. 2741 02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:14,680 But when they actually buckled down and fixed the technical 2742 02:18:14,680 --> 02:18:16,959 issues, because, again, the game itself was fine. 2743 02:18:16,959 --> 02:18:19,639 It was just a technical mess. It was just a buggy technical 2744 02:18:19,639 --> 02:18:21,120 mess. Once they fix that, yeah, it's 2745 02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:23,200 been fine. And obviously Phantom Liberty 2746 02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:26,280 was a really good expansion. I mean, the game itself also 2747 02:18:26,799 --> 02:18:29,320 didn't falter and I think they'll learn their lessons for 2748 02:18:29,320 --> 02:18:31,799 the next one because 80% of the choices didn't matter. 2749 02:18:31,799 --> 02:18:33,200 And I think that was a big problem. 2750 02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:36,559 Whereas with with the, the DLC, they, they rectified their 2751 02:18:36,799 --> 02:18:39,240 guided the combat system and all of that to make it much better. 2752 02:18:39,240 --> 02:18:42,879 And I think the next Cyberpunk game, based on the the way this 2753 02:18:42,879 --> 02:18:47,600 one went down, you know, and I'm a fan of UE5I just feel like, 2754 02:18:47,600 --> 02:18:51,719 OK, there's much more allure to a bespoke engine and you're a 2755 02:18:51,719 --> 02:18:53,799 big studio, you can handle the cost of it. 2756 02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:57,120 They're forsaken it never mind. Now they can direct their 2757 02:18:57,120 --> 02:19:00,440 efforts because they're UE5 to make something that looks 2758 02:19:00,440 --> 02:19:05,080 fucking incredible, but also focus on some of the the shit 2759 02:19:05,080 --> 02:19:07,200 that they got wrong. I think the next Cyberpunk game 2760 02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:11,080 is going to blow our mind. And think of this, they created 2761 02:19:11,080 --> 02:19:14,480 an entire new studio in Boston just for that game. 2762 02:19:15,600 --> 02:19:18,400 Cyberpunk 2 is is not, they're not doing it in Warsaw, they're 2763 02:19:18,400 --> 02:19:21,559 doing it in Boston. And Warsaw is obviously focused 2764 02:19:21,559 --> 02:19:24,040 on what you're for. So yeah, to your point, I mean, 2765 02:19:24,040 --> 02:19:25,760 we're not going to see it anytime to 20-30. 2766 02:19:25,760 --> 02:19:28,000 If we're lucky, we'll we'll get that game. 2767 02:19:28,000 --> 02:19:31,400 But yeah, to your point, I think they got a lot of lessons 2768 02:19:31,400 --> 02:19:35,080 learned from from this, and I expect the next one to be even. 2769 02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:37,040 See, that was the other cool thing for me, since we're just 2770 02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:39,000 talking about it when I went out to Warsaw, because I was 2771 02:19:39,000 --> 02:19:40,480 actually out there for another event. 2772 02:19:40,480 --> 02:19:43,879 It wasn't CD Project Red. I'm on the plane and I had a 2773 02:19:43,879 --> 02:19:47,040 connecting flight in Munich in Germany, go up to Poland. 2774 02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:49,720 Who's on the plane with me? Mike Pond Smith. 2775 02:19:50,000 --> 02:19:51,720 And I was wearing the cyberpunk jacket. 2776 02:19:51,720 --> 02:19:53,960 He literally comes up to me and says something. 2777 02:19:54,280 --> 02:19:56,160 So yeah, that was that was an awesome moment. 2778 02:19:56,160 --> 02:19:59,440 Just randomly, I'm on the same plane with Mike Pond Smith and, 2779 02:19:59,560 --> 02:20:01,760 you know, going into Warsaw. So that was cool because he was 2780 02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:04,520 at the studio for some other stuff they were doing that week 2781 02:20:04,520 --> 02:20:05,880 I was there. So even when I went to the 2782 02:20:05,880 --> 02:20:08,360 studio, I saw him again. But yeah, it's just cool, man. 2783 02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:12,160 And that's what I mean, it's that's why I always say I trust 2784 02:20:12,160 --> 02:20:15,920 me, I wouldn't change shit of anything. 2785 02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:18,440 All the people love to give me grief about this and the other. 2786 02:20:18,440 --> 02:20:19,920 I would not change the goddamn thing. 2787 02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:24,880 I've been so lucky bro, over the past when we're 2026 now, I 2788 02:20:24,880 --> 02:20:26,640 would say for the like the past seven years. 2789 02:20:27,200 --> 02:20:30,160 Of a lot of this, the cool shit that I've been able to do, the 2790 02:20:30,160 --> 02:20:32,400 people I've been able to meet. Like. 2791 02:20:32,440 --> 02:20:36,080 I said around the world, yeah, hosting show, like all the stuff 2792 02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:37,800 that I've been able to do, I wouldn't, I wouldn't change 2793 02:20:37,800 --> 02:20:39,200 anything. Why was you? 2794 02:20:39,240 --> 02:20:41,440 Because the Internet people just get salty about. 2795 02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:44,160 They're jealous about. Yeah, who cares? 2796 02:20:44,320 --> 02:20:49,800 It's like it is what it is. And if you were ever to change 2797 02:20:49,800 --> 02:20:52,920 and adjust to things to match what people wanted, you just be 2798 02:20:52,920 --> 02:20:55,160 in the toilet. Just it's injecting yourself 2799 02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:57,200 with heroin and only that's the only way they would be happy 2800 02:20:57,200 --> 02:20:58,680 because they want to see you fail. 2801 02:20:59,200 --> 02:21:02,840 So obviously I've that's the way human nature is disgusting. 2802 02:21:02,840 --> 02:21:06,280 People are thrive off the misery of others without actually doing 2803 02:21:06,280 --> 02:21:08,520 anything themselves. Like if you haven't got anything 2804 02:21:08,520 --> 02:21:11,560 to you know really what appreciable some of these trolls 2805 02:21:11,560 --> 02:21:15,000 that talk they they can't even show their faces online and 2806 02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:17,120 they're so bold. I'm like, bro, you're scared to 2807 02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:20,800 show your face and you're talking about what? 2808 02:21:21,280 --> 02:21:24,920 You can't even put your face to your opinions bro, and you live 2809 02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:27,360 off other people's opinions. You can't even show your face. 2810 02:21:27,360 --> 02:21:29,320 You haven't you're accolades, you're nothing. 2811 02:21:29,320 --> 02:21:32,320 We don't know anything about you just as far by default by doing 2812 02:21:32,320 --> 02:21:34,200 that. You're just a fat mess. 2813 02:21:34,400 --> 02:21:37,480 Just sat there in your own freaking ectoplasm. 2814 02:21:37,680 --> 02:21:38,920 That's why. That's how you. 2815 02:21:39,120 --> 02:21:42,120 Look, look, I'm, I'm a same by name because I know it'll make 2816 02:21:42,120 --> 02:21:45,200 it a day that that, that James dude, right? 2817 02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:47,680 James like. Jamie's act. 2818 02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:50,160 Jamie's act? Where is he that fucking? 2819 02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:52,800 He's probably some little kid in India, man, He's such a fucking 2820 02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:53,400 weirdo. Oh. 2821 02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:56,560 Of course, of course, but that, but that's my whole point. 2822 02:21:56,560 --> 02:22:00,440 It's like how miserable must your real life be that you sit 2823 02:22:00,440 --> 02:22:04,120 on the Internet 24 hours a day, seven days a week, everything 2824 02:22:04,320 --> 02:22:06,120 Xbox bad. Oh, I'm going to clip this 2825 02:22:06,120 --> 02:22:08,600 person and take them out of context and say this and say 2826 02:22:08,600 --> 02:22:10,800 that no one's ever seen your face. 2827 02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:14,520 No one knows anything about you other than because Elon. 2828 02:22:14,840 --> 02:22:18,240 Elon screwed up and we could see cases that, you know, you living 2829 02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:20,720 out in freaking Laos or can't believe some goddamn word. 2830 02:22:23,640 --> 02:22:26,440 And then all we know is that he literally just screams. 2831 02:22:26,720 --> 02:22:29,240 How can you redeem? No, I don't know what you doing? 2832 02:22:29,440 --> 02:22:31,680 Who is this guy causes some James. 2833 02:22:31,680 --> 02:22:33,240 He's there in Cambodia or some shit. 2834 02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:36,400 He just clips me out. He talks about Xbox and we can't 2835 02:22:36,400 --> 02:22:38,920 see your face. And we know you're a mess in 2836 02:22:38,920 --> 02:22:40,920 real life. We know you're a mess in real 2837 02:22:40,920 --> 02:22:43,320 life. It's so funny bro. 2838 02:22:43,640 --> 02:22:45,920 Those people just exist. But. 2839 02:22:46,600 --> 02:22:49,440 That goes, but that goes back to the whole when we were talking 2840 02:22:49,440 --> 02:22:53,640 at the top it's like I know I'm public facing, I'm on camera 2841 02:22:53,640 --> 02:22:56,600 damn there every week, right. Obviously a lot of people know 2842 02:22:56,600 --> 02:22:58,160 who I am. I mean, you obviously do your 2843 02:22:58,160 --> 02:23:02,520 streaming people see you like you know, like I use my real 2844 02:23:02,520 --> 02:23:03,880 name. I'm not a pretend name or 2845 02:23:03,880 --> 02:23:04,920 whatever. You can look me up. 2846 02:23:04,920 --> 02:23:08,120 You can see whatever right. So it's like I am who I am. 2847 02:23:08,320 --> 02:23:11,600 You may not like the stuff that I say, but I don't pretend to be 2848 02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:16,720 some character online, right it. So judge me however you, you so 2849 02:23:16,720 --> 02:23:19,520 choose. But you know, I'm not afraid to 2850 02:23:19,680 --> 02:23:22,800 show you who I am, but look like I look my mouth might get a 2851 02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:25,560 little more filthy and, you know, off camera. 2852 02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:29,640 But other than that, and you obviously can vouch for this, 2853 02:23:30,000 --> 02:23:33,480 what you see is what you get, you know, You know, it's not 2854 02:23:33,480 --> 02:23:35,280 it's not an act. It's not pretending to be 2855 02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:36,680 anything. I'm not perfect. 2856 02:23:36,760 --> 02:23:41,760 I see a lot of dumb shit a lot. And when I do, I own it, and you 2857 02:23:41,760 --> 02:23:44,640 keep it moving, you know? Yeah, I mean, look, we all, we 2858 02:23:44,680 --> 02:23:49,000 all, we all. It's the urge to be human and 2859 02:23:49,080 --> 02:23:51,200 that's the standard. But the thing the difference is 2860 02:23:51,960 --> 02:23:56,080 put our face to the name there and we can get engage people. 2861 02:23:56,360 --> 02:23:58,240 We're lucky and I'm grateful, man. 2862 02:23:58,240 --> 02:24:00,800 But if 138 people watching this, it's insane. 2863 02:24:00,800 --> 02:24:04,360 Even after three hours, think about 138 people in a hallway, 2864 02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:06,760 just in a in a fucking auditorium, Brav. 2865 02:24:07,600 --> 02:24:11,640 It's mad like Brav, I just had my wedding a couple of weeks 2866 02:24:11,640 --> 02:24:13,440 ago. Brav that's a lot of people. 2867 02:24:13,960 --> 02:24:18,400 Thank you, man. It's just like Brav, who are 2868 02:24:18,400 --> 02:24:20,880 you? You don't show your face if you 2869 02:24:20,880 --> 02:24:24,280 don't show your face at a rate, I'm like breath, at least let me 2870 02:24:24,280 --> 02:24:27,840 see your face. I just want to see how high your 2871 02:24:27,840 --> 02:24:31,600 BMI really is. But it is what it is. 2872 02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:36,720 But you know what you know or or it's personalities ultimately 2873 02:24:38,000 --> 02:24:40,440 respect to everyone that puts out their face and and does and 2874 02:24:40,440 --> 02:24:44,320 I know not every personality wants to get in will get on. 2875 02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:47,160 I have issues with a lot of people contact you have issues 2876 02:24:47,160 --> 02:24:49,480 with a lot of contact grades. I've tried to squash those beefs 2877 02:24:49,680 --> 02:24:51,320 and that haven't happened as well. 2878 02:24:51,760 --> 02:24:55,720 I'm still it always comes back to him because I really like BG 2879 02:24:55,720 --> 02:24:59,080 and I hate that you 2 fight and that's been your be and it's 2880 02:24:59,080 --> 02:25:01,680 it's entirely your. Personal Let me say this, Let me 2881 02:25:01,680 --> 02:25:06,640 say this, I'll say this. You and I have obviously had 2882 02:25:06,640 --> 02:25:09,520 this conversation offline and you're going to be surprised at 2883 02:25:09,520 --> 02:25:13,560 what I have to say. I got no issue with the dude. 2884 02:25:13,920 --> 02:25:17,920 I've I've he is who he is like sometimes you just have to 2885 02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:21,520 accept people for who they are. Will him and I ever be friends 2886 02:25:21,520 --> 02:25:24,320 where I ever actively reach out to want to go talk to him? 2887 02:25:24,320 --> 02:25:27,680 Absolutely not. But if I were to see him in 2888 02:25:27,680 --> 02:25:31,320 person, am I like going to go try and fight him or something? 2889 02:25:31,320 --> 02:25:35,640 No, but you know it. It's it's the Internet, man. 2890 02:25:35,880 --> 02:25:39,400 I mean, he said something I didn't like or he did something 2891 02:25:39,400 --> 02:25:43,600 I didn't like. I expressed I didn't like it and 2892 02:25:43,600 --> 02:25:45,440 he didn't care. All right, Noted. 2893 02:25:45,640 --> 02:25:48,320 Now you move on. Like I said, other than that one 2894 02:25:48,320 --> 02:25:50,800 time on the show, I don't interact with him. 2895 02:25:50,800 --> 02:25:53,160 I don't see anything you post, I don't talk to him or whatever. 2896 02:25:53,160 --> 02:25:55,320 And that's fine. You're not going to get along 2897 02:25:55,320 --> 02:25:56,600 with everybody. You know you. 2898 02:25:56,880 --> 02:26:00,440 Know you're just not, you're just not, and that that's fine. 2899 02:26:00,680 --> 02:26:02,800 So you keep it. Moving I try to. 2900 02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:07,480 Surround. Man, it went from grievous 2901 02:26:07,480 --> 02:26:15,160 bodily harm to it's. OK, no, but but but you are you 2902 02:26:15,160 --> 02:26:18,320 just try to surround yourself with with people you know that's 2903 02:26:18,320 --> 02:26:21,680 going to uplift you and push you to to be a better person, right. 2904 02:26:21,720 --> 02:26:23,720 And like I said, I'm not perfect. 2905 02:26:24,400 --> 02:26:26,200 I will make mistakes. I will continue to make 2906 02:26:26,200 --> 02:26:28,200 mistakes. And I'm very thankful that I 2907 02:26:28,200 --> 02:26:31,680 have people in my life that have no problem letting me know when 2908 02:26:31,680 --> 02:26:33,480 I do. You know what I'm saying? 2909 02:26:33,720 --> 02:26:35,640 That's that's people you need to be surrounded yourself with. 2910 02:26:36,200 --> 02:26:38,280 Yeah. Absolutely no, that's, that's 2911 02:26:38,280 --> 02:26:39,800 progress. BG if you're hearing this, look, 2912 02:26:40,040 --> 02:26:42,880 you know, you don't need to get that life insurance sponsor, but 2913 02:26:44,280 --> 02:26:46,880 you know, I'm glad man. And you know, you know, one day 2914 02:26:46,880 --> 02:26:50,600 I, I actually think if you sat down together, maybe there's an 2915 02:26:50,600 --> 02:26:52,680 opportunity for you guys to say, you know, of this fucking dumb. 2916 02:26:53,520 --> 02:26:55,680 Yes, but but I guess that's, but I guess that's the point of 2917 02:26:55,680 --> 02:26:58,680 making if, if that were to happen, I guarantee if we wind 2918 02:26:58,680 --> 02:27:01,520 up talking, it'll be fine. And that's how I'm looking at 2919 02:27:01,520 --> 02:27:04,000 it, man. I'm not stressed over any of 2920 02:27:04,000 --> 02:27:05,960 this stuff. I would say honestly, the only 2921 02:27:05,960 --> 02:27:09,960 the only person that I'd seem to keep having an issue with is God 2922 02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:10,640 damn Lono. But. 2923 02:27:11,640 --> 02:27:13,680 He's out for himself. That's how that's everyone ever 2924 02:27:13,680 --> 02:27:15,720 knows it and he's always out for himself. 2925 02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:20,200 And I'm sorry, Lono, but you you don't show anything that the way 2926 02:27:20,200 --> 02:27:22,640 you treat your viewers, the way you do push your membership 2927 02:27:22,640 --> 02:27:25,600 goals, the discourse, all of it. It just doesn't suggest that you 2928 02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:27,760 are a person. I'm not saying a good person or 2929 02:27:27,760 --> 02:27:29,320 a bad person. It's I'm not the arbiter and 2930 02:27:29,320 --> 02:27:33,960 decided that and we leave that to to God, but just yeah, if you 2931 02:27:34,000 --> 02:27:36,760 genuinely want to get to know people and not think about how 2932 02:27:36,760 --> 02:27:39,720 it will affect your channel or have that ulterior motive, then 2933 02:27:39,720 --> 02:27:41,080 perhaps you can have a reach out. 2934 02:27:41,080 --> 02:27:44,200 I know you've unblocked me, which is interesting, but then 2935 02:27:44,240 --> 02:27:46,000 yeah, let's see if you show that. 2936 02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:46,800 I appreciate. That Well, No. 2937 02:27:46,800 --> 02:27:48,600 Well, no. He he blocked you see, this is. 2938 02:27:49,160 --> 02:27:50,280 Yeah. Let's just air The Dirty 2939 02:27:50,280 --> 02:27:53,360 laundry. You know, I go in his chat, say 2940 02:27:53,360 --> 02:27:56,280 what I say, He has a meltdown. Come on my channel. 2941 02:27:56,280 --> 02:27:59,120 Duh, duh, duh. I think he blocks me. 2942 02:27:59,240 --> 02:28:01,720 So how in the hell am I ever supposed to contact you then 2943 02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:04,120 you, you don't want to talk to me. 2944 02:28:04,120 --> 02:28:07,480 You don't want to have that confrontation because you 2945 02:28:07,480 --> 02:28:10,480 blocked me. So it's, it's just, it's, it's 2946 02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:14,600 public noise. It's let me perform for my chat 2947 02:28:14,960 --> 02:28:18,080 and maybe someone will give me a 10 bomb or whatever the hell he 2948 02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:20,320 says, right? That's all it. 2949 02:28:20,960 --> 02:28:23,400 Is. It's all about give me money, 2950 02:28:23,920 --> 02:28:25,320 money, money, money. It is. 2951 02:28:25,320 --> 02:28:27,520 It is. I don't I don't rate that at 2952 02:28:27,520 --> 02:28:28,720 all. I don't rate that at all. 2953 02:28:28,760 --> 02:28:30,120 I'm not in the space for money, bro. 2954 02:28:30,480 --> 02:28:33,680 I'm here to make some memes and piss people off and have an when 2955 02:28:33,680 --> 02:28:35,280 I come back in a few years, I'd be like, Gaz. 2956 02:28:35,280 --> 02:28:36,720 He made good content. It was funny. 2957 02:28:37,720 --> 02:28:40,080 It was interesting. That's that's the only thing I'm 2958 02:28:40,080 --> 02:28:42,840 in there for, to make stuff that'd be like, Oh yeah, shit, 2959 02:28:42,840 --> 02:28:45,840 that guy fucking crazy. Oh yeah, Chad, I did get 2960 02:28:45,840 --> 02:28:47,280 married. I didn't want to make a big song 2961 02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:49,560 and dance about it. I don't want to put the evil eye 2962 02:28:49,560 --> 02:28:51,160 as well people until it happened. 2963 02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:55,840 And yeah, a very special lady who is very patient with me, 2964 02:28:56,040 --> 02:28:58,960 very patient with me and she needs to be. 2965 02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:02,600 And I could have asked for something, someone better. 2966 02:29:02,600 --> 02:29:05,240 She's, she's lovely. She's. 2967 02:29:05,320 --> 02:29:08,360 That's awesome. Yeah, honestly, yeah, hopefully. 2968 02:29:09,120 --> 02:29:12,040 Well, you know, when you go to these meets, you might come with 2969 02:29:12,040 --> 02:29:15,120 us to a miracle or wherever you guys can meet up. 2970 02:29:15,120 --> 02:29:17,760 And she's Yeah. So it's the, and the little 2971 02:29:17,760 --> 02:29:20,360 gazes, hopefully very, you know, soon. 2972 02:29:20,360 --> 02:29:22,640 I want to have little ones. I would literally want to have 2973 02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:24,880 kids. I'm very, I'm very, very. 2974 02:29:24,880 --> 02:29:28,040 What's it called when you see? You really want? 2975 02:29:28,120 --> 02:29:29,120 What's it called? Groomy. 2976 02:29:29,120 --> 02:29:30,320 No, what's it called? Groomy. 2977 02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:32,280 That's the worst word. I'm not in FC Zeiland. 2978 02:29:32,280 --> 02:29:36,080 What's it when you like, like really want to you just want to 2979 02:29:36,080 --> 02:29:38,400 have kids a lot. I just want to, I mean, that's I 2980 02:29:38,400 --> 02:29:40,880 never thought that I would be at this stage where I'd be like, I 2981 02:29:40,880 --> 02:29:44,520 want to have kids, but I don't have kids. 2982 02:29:45,280 --> 02:29:48,600 Let me tell you it, it will change your life, excuse me, 2983 02:29:48,600 --> 02:29:49,720 will change your life for the better. 2984 02:29:50,000 --> 02:29:52,400 Having kids. It just, it just does you know 2985 02:29:52,400 --> 02:29:56,200 it it's, it's amazing how you'll have one mindset before you have 2986 02:29:56,200 --> 02:29:58,760 kids and then you you're a completely different person if 2987 02:29:58,760 --> 02:30:01,160 you have kids, you know, because it's all about them. 2988 02:30:01,160 --> 02:30:03,800 It's all about making sure they're taken care of, that 2989 02:30:03,920 --> 02:30:07,520 they, they have a better life than you did. 2990 02:30:07,880 --> 02:30:09,880 Yeah. That that's that's that's your 2991 02:30:09,880 --> 02:30:12,760 job as a parent, man. Yeah, no, I I understand that 2992 02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:15,720 completely, that that's a, you know, game changer. 2993 02:30:15,960 --> 02:30:18,960 Broody chat, not groomy. Fuck, that's the worst one it 2994 02:30:18,960 --> 02:30:20,800 could be with all the shit that's going down. 2995 02:30:21,040 --> 02:30:22,360 Broody. I'm very broody. 2996 02:30:22,400 --> 02:30:25,000 Like we had a Valentine's dinner and then there was a little kid 2997 02:30:25,000 --> 02:30:27,160 there. We're like, Oh my God, and it's 2998 02:30:27,160 --> 02:30:29,440 like, I wish there's a little gas. 2999 02:30:29,440 --> 02:30:32,720 You could teach them how PlayStation sucks at an early 3000 02:30:32,720 --> 02:30:33,880 age. Then they'll be amazing. 3001 02:30:34,840 --> 02:30:38,280 I'll just be a Dick, but you know, play games with the kids. 3002 02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:39,480 You're right. Then. 3003 02:30:39,720 --> 02:30:43,160 Then it's not about you. Even when I got married, you 3004 02:30:43,160 --> 02:30:45,800 know, I have a responsibility to take care of my wife, especially 3005 02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:48,160 Islamically. People are, you know, it's your 3006 02:30:48,160 --> 02:30:50,840 responsibility and you have to provide now you have to do it. 3007 02:30:50,840 --> 02:30:52,480 That instantly the mindset changed. 3008 02:30:52,480 --> 02:30:55,440 I'm like, I don't care about myself as much anymore. 3009 02:30:55,440 --> 02:30:59,960 I have a duty now to really go out and, you know, be different. 3010 02:31:00,280 --> 02:31:02,240 So that changed. But the kids will take that to 3011 02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:04,320 another level, I'm sure, because I know. 3012 02:31:04,320 --> 02:31:06,760 Oh yeah, it will. Yeah, I'm just gonna be. 3013 02:31:06,760 --> 02:31:10,800 I'm gonna be just, yeah, I'm, I'm very, I'm that kind of 3014 02:31:10,800 --> 02:31:12,720 person, really. My kids, when my friends bring 3015 02:31:12,720 --> 02:31:17,000 their kids around, I can't relax the corners of tables and the 3016 02:31:17,000 --> 02:31:19,880 sockets and also the kids, because I, me and my, I have 3017 02:31:19,880 --> 02:31:23,240 just three siblings, me and two brothers, and we've got so many 3018 02:31:23,240 --> 02:31:25,680 accidents. So I've been like, fuck, I'm so 3019 02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:27,520 scared. So I'm going to be one of those 3020 02:31:27,520 --> 02:31:29,160 that's just going to be constantly worried. 3021 02:31:29,600 --> 02:31:31,880 But, you know, could be worse. They could become a PlayStation 3022 02:31:31,880 --> 02:31:32,920 fanboy. And I don't want that. 3023 02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:36,160 Thank you, Daddy. Passion official. 3024 02:31:36,160 --> 02:31:38,840 Now I have to go. Now I have you going to be a 3025 02:31:38,840 --> 02:31:40,560 better man. Oh, shit. 3026 02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:45,280 Maybe unless I go too far. I'm still a Dick. 3027 02:31:46,160 --> 02:31:48,240 But yeah, I'm. I've already matured a little 3028 02:31:48,240 --> 02:31:49,120 bit. So thank you, Chad. 3029 02:31:49,120 --> 02:31:50,680 Yeah. I don't want to make a big song 3030 02:31:50,680 --> 02:31:53,040 and dance about it until it was all done. 3031 02:31:53,720 --> 02:31:56,840 The Islamic nikahs are done. I'm going to have a ceremony 3032 02:31:56,840 --> 02:31:59,200 soon. And then, yeah, it'll be done. 3033 02:31:59,640 --> 02:32:03,880 Paris. Lily, I will get to see you in. 3034 02:32:04,320 --> 02:32:05,800 Oh, another announcement just very quickly. 3035 02:32:05,800 --> 02:32:07,360 Yeah, in two weeks, I'll be joining. 3036 02:32:07,560 --> 02:32:11,360 I have joined thanks to Tom Henderson being very nice. 3037 02:32:11,600 --> 02:32:16,000 I'm part of Insider Gaming now. They let my crazy ass join the 3038 02:32:16,000 --> 02:32:20,640 team and I'm flying out with Insider Gaming to GDC to 3039 02:32:20,720 --> 02:32:23,960 interview Phil Spencer and give you the real freaking interview. 3040 02:32:23,960 --> 02:32:27,400 Phil Spencer, you pieces. How dare you do this. 3041 02:32:27,400 --> 02:32:31,840 You, you fucking betrayed me. This is a message from Tim Dong. 3042 02:32:32,440 --> 02:32:35,960 No, I'm not going to do that. I am a bit mindful of the fact 3043 02:32:35,960 --> 02:32:39,200 that I have been so such a weird character. 3044 02:32:39,200 --> 02:32:41,200 And then they come see me and they're like, you know, fucking 3045 02:32:41,200 --> 02:32:43,760 fuck that guy. If not interview, no chance that 3046 02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:46,120 guy gets an interview. There's no way. 3047 02:32:46,120 --> 02:32:51,080 Get the piece of shit out of it. But Jason Ronald and I chat some 3048 02:32:51,080 --> 02:32:55,320 time ago in in DMS until the last message. 3049 02:32:55,800 --> 02:32:58,720 Just a video of me going fucking Jason Ronald. 3050 02:32:58,720 --> 02:33:00,200 What happened with the hardware man? 3051 02:33:00,400 --> 02:33:03,160 He never replied. I'm such a Dick. 3052 02:33:03,800 --> 02:33:06,480 If you guys could see the video, you guys would laugh your ass 3053 02:33:06,480 --> 02:33:08,920 off. They're so fucking unhinged to 3054 02:33:08,920 --> 02:33:11,800 send it to a man who has been so nice to you. 3055 02:33:12,320 --> 02:33:13,840 But I just couldn't help it for the memes. 3056 02:33:14,280 --> 02:33:16,040 But yeah, I get to see him. So I'll get to see you. 3057 02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:18,800 I get to see Jason Ronald, hopefully get to see the Xbox 3058 02:33:18,800 --> 02:33:22,120 team and go out with the Tom Henderson and others. 3059 02:33:23,040 --> 02:33:27,320 There will be an interesting phase of content creation where 3060 02:33:27,320 --> 02:33:33,480 I try to be serious and not get ostracised by the industry that. 3061 02:33:33,480 --> 02:33:37,440 I, I look forward to it and, and that's the whole thing. 3062 02:33:37,440 --> 02:33:39,520 It's, it's in person. Like I'm going to tell you right 3063 02:33:39,520 --> 02:33:45,200 now, you were probably going to be surprised at who actually 3064 02:33:45,200 --> 02:33:47,440 pays attention to the stuff that you post on mine. 3065 02:33:48,040 --> 02:33:49,200 Oh God, you'll get a comment for. 3066 02:33:49,200 --> 02:33:50,600 You'll get a comment from someone. 3067 02:33:50,600 --> 02:33:54,120 You're like, wait, you saw this? Oh God, please. 3068 02:33:54,120 --> 02:33:57,200 Don't be surprised. Oh shit, I'm gonna find out a 3069 02:33:57,200 --> 02:33:58,960 harder. I mean I'm living under like the 3070 02:33:58,960 --> 02:34:01,120 safety scuba. They don't know why I was fine, 3071 02:34:01,440 --> 02:34:04,320 but now it's gonna be like, are you the guy who sang a song 3072 02:34:04,320 --> 02:34:06,520 about where I fucking feel? Don't mention. 3073 02:34:08,480 --> 02:34:12,840 That's what's gonna happen. Oh shit Lutro, thank you so much 3074 02:34:12,840 --> 02:34:13,840 man. Great show, bro. 3075 02:34:13,960 --> 02:34:16,560 Gaz people Luminous. She's been begging me to play 3076 02:34:16,560 --> 02:34:18,040 luminous and this sounds like my jam. 3077 02:34:18,200 --> 02:34:21,040 Paris, you're AG, says Lutrons. Thank you so much. 3078 02:34:21,040 --> 02:34:23,040 Thank you. Mad love, man. 3079 02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:24,320 Thank you. Everyone in chat. 3080 02:34:25,040 --> 02:34:29,760 Smash the like button on the way out and I will definitely be 3081 02:34:29,760 --> 02:34:31,240 back on the content train. I'm back. 3082 02:34:31,280 --> 02:34:33,560 The reason now, you know, is because I've been worried trying 3083 02:34:33,560 --> 02:34:37,000 to get this wedding done, marriage done. 3084 02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:39,240 That's why it's been crazy. And Paris was supposed to be on 3085 02:34:39,240 --> 02:34:42,320 that Saturday, but I couldn't do it because I was getting 3086 02:34:42,320 --> 02:34:45,360 married. So thank you so much and I hope 3087 02:34:45,360 --> 02:34:47,560 you enjoy the show and I'll put the time steps up and Paris, 3088 02:34:47,560 --> 02:34:49,920 thank you so much for coming. What's next? 3089 02:34:49,920 --> 02:34:53,120 We know GDC, anything else for the people that you've been 3090 02:34:53,120 --> 02:34:55,280 making more content now what's what's the source? 3091 02:34:56,680 --> 02:35:00,240 Yeah, GDC that yeah, I'll just say GDC. 3092 02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:03,440 I can't, I don't know what I can and can't say so but I got, I 3093 02:35:03,480 --> 02:35:05,240 got, I got, I got some other stuff coming up. 3094 02:35:05,240 --> 02:35:08,040 But yeah, it's, it's going to be a fun year, man. 3095 02:35:08,640 --> 02:35:10,960 It's going to be a fun year. Wicked man wicked. 3096 02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:12,720 Check it out. Paris Lily's stuff. 3097 02:35:12,760 --> 02:35:15,840 You know Paris is, but I've put link to in the chat in the 3098 02:35:15,840 --> 02:35:20,400 description below and we'll see you next week. 3099 02:35:20,920 --> 02:35:22,440 Safe. Peace.