1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,960 This. Oh, yeah. 2 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:03,440 There. Bye, Jess. 3 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,880 Leave it in the dark. We are live. 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:18,400 We are live. And we've got Jess Corden and 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,840 the name tag's there and it's got the wrong camera. 6 00:00:22,960 --> 00:00:25,240 I can do both cameras. I don't even know that. 7 00:00:26,200 --> 00:00:30,400 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Septic Sauce. 8 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,960 The stress of figuring it out every all my days. 9 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,720 Jazz looks like he's on the scene of Fight Club as he's 10 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,160 about that tinge of green, that colour correction reminds me of 11 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:50,160 that those those what happened to the freaking amazing curtains 12 00:00:50,160 --> 00:00:54,160 that we used to love? I knew you'd ask about the 13 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,880 curtains. The curtains are gone, the 14 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:58,320 garden forever. Why? 15 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,520 I love those curves. And now we can just see the 16 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,560 awkward, awkward case of your creams there next to you. 17 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,680 There's no tissues, thank God. But. 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:15,440 Well, we got moisturiser, which I want to get rid of, and the 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,640 steroids for all kinds of skin problems I'm having. 20 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,360 Oh. Yeah, we talked about that last 21 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:23,640 time. Yeah, it's a, it's a nightmare, 22 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,240 but you know, this what happens with. 23 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:30,680 Yeah, also vitamin, Vitamin D. Yeah, you're good on vitamin D. 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,000 You love the D? Love a bit of D, you know. 25 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,400 You love a bit of D love it D in the morning. 26 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:44,160 How you been, man? I'm tired man. 27 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,800 Yeah, I can tell because the camera has you literally on the 28 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,880 bottom right corner of your screen. 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Let's try and get that. There, let's see a bit of your 30 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,680 face, your body, your nipples. There we go. 31 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:02,440 Fucking insects everywhere man. What up north already a little 32 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:06,000 bit of sun And where are you based you you're near? 33 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,080 I'm in. I'm in Bavaria right now. 34 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,840 I'm in Bavaria. Oh, yeah. 35 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,800 So like a bit a bit of warmth and then, you know, in the 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,640 countryside suddenly it's just insects everywhere, so you move. 37 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:23,840 You move about quite a bit then between. 38 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:25,160 I do it. Yeah, I do it. 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,000 So your girlfriend is in Bavaria? 40 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:28,960 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. 41 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,760 Oh, shit. I've visited quite a lot, you 42 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,440 know, ahead of us figuring out where we want to permanently 43 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,680 settle down, I suppose. But yeah, for now, back and 44 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:45,120 forth between the good old United of the Kingdoms. 45 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,400 Isn't Germany better though? Their Healthcare is better. 46 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:52,240 It's. Foodish shit though. 47 00:02:54,040 --> 00:03:00,000 And kind NHS kind of it's like the employer pays half your 48 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,040 health insurance. So it's kind of like the halfway 49 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,560 point between America's and Britain's health care system I 50 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,960 think. I think overall I think it is 51 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,480 right, better than Britain's, but is. 52 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,000 England going down the toilet, so we're getting we're getting 53 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,280 taxed to shit. Roads suck. 54 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:23,160 There's like a crater the size of adjacent Tri everywhere on 55 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,520 the roads in London. Don't ask me why I said that 56 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:29,800 it's just round, but the it's just I don't know. 57 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:31,840 It's weird. I don't know. 58 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,920 I think it's not what it used to be and we've got a crap 59 00:03:33,920 --> 00:03:36,800 government. This is, I don't know, oh, is it 60 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,400 just us love English, people have to have a little wage. 61 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:45,240 Like it's oh shit, it's oh shit. Well, you know, it's, it's 62 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,040 similar, similar arguments in Germany right now. 63 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,760 You know, everyone's kind of, I think everywhere global is just 64 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,280 kind of I, I don't know anyone is happy anywhere. 65 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,440 They're going there right now. I'll tell you who's. 66 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:56,800 Happy Paris. Lily is happy. 67 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,960 He's like one of those places where he went to San Diego, 68 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,840 which is a beautiful place, beach and everything. 69 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,800 And you know, I was like he said to me, I'm not moving here from 70 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:05,400 here ever. That's how nice it is. 71 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,120 Everyone I met San Diego said the same thing and I'm like, 72 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:11,280 holy shit, they don't. They don't even have a grass 73 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,200 greener complex. They just love it. 74 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:15,800 They're they're they're that's amazing. 75 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:18,640 Where is San Diego? San Diego's in California, Yeah, 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:23,680 just S South of San Fran. South of San Fran, Yeah. 77 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:26,000 Or maybe Southwest, I don't know. 78 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:27,200 I drove there. It was beautiful. 79 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,800 It's a beautiful place. I would actually live there. 80 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,000 I would actually live there. It is so nice there. 81 00:04:34,280 --> 00:04:35,680 Better than better than Birmingham? 82 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,080 I think it's better than Birmingham bro I'll I'll send 83 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,560 you to the most messed up place in Pakistan. 84 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,760 You be like this is better than Birmingham. 85 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,280 I hate Birmingham every time I beat the burgers with shit. 86 00:04:46,280 --> 00:04:48,960 It's so shit. It's so shit. 87 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:50,080 It's. A bit. 88 00:04:50,280 --> 00:04:52,040 It is a bit. I don't know man, there's so 89 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,120 nothing going on. It's just, and there's a baby 90 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:57,760 and it's just something the Access is doing for me, my 91 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:02,440 missus from Manchester. So it's really, I don't know, I 92 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:04,000 don't like it. Birmingham's just shit, just 93 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:09,240 remind me of that, that Excel, not Excel, whatever that thing 94 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,080 is where they have their conferences and it just go a 95 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,320 nightlife is shit. Everyone's just weird. 96 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,400 I don't know, I don't like it. Manchester's nice. 97 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,480 I like Manchester. Manchester's beautiful. 98 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,760 Actually. It's quite nice city. 99 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:26,400 I met Sean there, Sean 786, he's brilliant, really nice guy. 100 00:05:26,840 --> 00:05:28,680 Nightlife. There's pretty chill as well. 101 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,840 And I was like, yo, this is nice. 102 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:34,040 I can't do anything now. You need a Kevlar vest for 103 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,320 Birmingham these days. I'm from London, bro. 104 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,840 Kevlar's default character trait. 105 00:05:38,840 --> 00:05:41,240 It's just like everywhere. It got stabbed. 106 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:42,680 Oh, the other day somebody just got. 107 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:45,640 Oh, what happened, man? I was trying to get coffee from 108 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:46,640 there. Can't even get it. 109 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,080 Oh, yeah, someone just got stabbed up there. 110 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:48,960 That's why. Oh, right. 111 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:52,040 OK. That's it's sure there's a 112 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,840 Birmingham at the moment she she ends all the time. 113 00:05:55,160 --> 00:06:00,600 Yeah, we've we've taken a guns. Guns and shit. 114 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,120 I don't know where they get no, I don't know where they're 115 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,080 taking a taking a step up of Birmingham. 116 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,800 Birmingham City Council went fully bankrupt a few years ago 117 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,200 and the the bin men have been on strike for like literally about 118 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,480 a year. It's, it's, it's pretty, pretty 119 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:20,320 rough out there at the moment. Yeah, man, it's, it's, it's kind 120 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,640 of mad. It's like we are councils across 121 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,040 London. Sorry, chat, this is politics. 122 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,240 But councils across the UK are bankrupt. 123 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,960 And So what you've got now is police giving out tickets 124 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:36,840 actively like parking tickets. My dad got a ticket for no brake 125 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:38,360 lights to be broken and a seat belt. 126 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:43,000 He just got into his car and they literally got vans out 127 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,880 there just watching to see if you're on your phone. 128 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,120 The police, I'm not clocking crime now. 129 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:49,280 They're just trying to squeeze money. 130 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:55,320 Yeah, councils squeezing money, masses of enforcement action for 131 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,360 planning. And also I've got, it's good for 132 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:00,360 lawyers because I've got a shit tonne of cases where councils 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:04,120 are being murking my clients, but it's not that nice kind of 134 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,200 matter to deal with. It's a shit. 135 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,920 It's, it's just, it's, you can tell like it's really bad. 136 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:10,360 It's really bad. It's rough. 137 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,840 It's rough. But anyhow, we got video games. 138 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,080 We got video games before we got more video games for. 139 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,080 Now. Yeah, we've got we got video 140 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,200 games for now, this story. Hey, Jess, relax. 141 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:28,640 AI is coming to save us or Oh yeah, yeah, I am one of the most 142 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:32,800 like I feel like I'm one of the most ardent supporters of AI, 143 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,400 not just supporter. I definitely take on. 144 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,560 I appreciate the risks of AI, but I feel like everyone has 145 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,000 such AI. Don't know just a dire view of 146 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,920 it and I can understand it's a big degree because of the 147 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:47,240 corporations that are back in the tech. 148 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:53,160 But I'll be honest with you, AI has been a fundamental tool and 149 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:59,320 that astounds me every day how it it just gets better and 150 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,760 better and it works in my profession and loads of 151 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,320 different professions and videos and video editing. 152 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,080 I'm messing around with things on Higgs field with seed dance. 153 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,920 I'm like, what the flip is this shit? 154 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,960 Crazy, crazy, crazy times we're living in. 155 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,880 But yeah, I think. It's, it's definitely good for 156 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,960 some professions, you know, and I've, I was messing around with 157 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,080 some, you know, those claw agents and stuff to try and 158 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:30,960 pull, like pull my articles from Windows Central's because one 159 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,240 thing that's really funny, like I often forget what I've 160 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,400 written. So it's kind of useful for tabs 161 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,120 for some things. It's useful to just sort of 162 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,559 collate information and automatically do stuff. 163 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:47,480 But I can't use it for writing. It makes so many mistakes. 164 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,520 I asked like any sort of basic kind of question you ask it, 165 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,480 It's like just lies to you. And then and then you're like, 166 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,480 hang on a SEC, this is bullshit. And it's like, oh, yeah, you're 167 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,120 right, Sorry, this was bullshit. You're right to call that out. 168 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,440 By the way, can I give you a blowjob? 169 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,680 You know, it's just so sick. It's so sick to me, you know? 170 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,680 Yeah, I, I don't know. I mean, I've got a friend who 171 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:14,560 works in the NHS and I was talking to him about it because 172 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:17,160 they use, they've got, they use Microsoft Co pilot in the NHS. 173 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,880 The government's got a contract, OK. 174 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:24,280 And he was saying like, it is really useful for summarising 175 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,880 like long e-mail chains between like lots of different doctors 176 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,560 about like complicated cases. And it will summarise all that 177 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:34,000 shit. And it like, you know, when the 178 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,040 data is like right there in front of it, it can do pretty 179 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:39,760 well and accurately. So too. 180 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:42,280 But when it's pulling stuff with the Internet, when it's full of 181 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:46,520 Spanish, you know, that's when it starts to sort of sucks. 182 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:48,960 So it really, it really depends on the quality of the data. 183 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,360 So for me, as someone who used to love write video game guides, 184 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:57,640 but now I can't because there's no money in it, You know, it's 185 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:02,320 kind of like, yeah, because Google Summary Box specifically 186 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:04,640 stops you making money on video game guides. 187 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,040 Oh, yeah. It kind of like the in that 188 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,360 universe. Like, doesn't I just going to 189 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:15,640 perpetually get Dumber when there's like no good information 190 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:16,880 to pull from? But I think like within 191 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,040 corporations like yourself, which has like they have bespoke 192 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:23,040 data which they can pull from. I think it is. 193 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,960 It's transformative, you know. But even Claude, like I would 194 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:29,680 use that on a daily. It's the way you use it. 195 00:10:29,680 --> 00:10:32,120 So my mate got it and I got the Max plan or whatever. 196 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,120 It's just like £100 a month. But I but I use it quite heavily 197 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:38,080 and I'm just like, look, you need to use it like it's a 198 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,160 person. Like you can't give it like 199 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:42,720 extra commands. Like that's where it flops. 200 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:44,000 We have to talk to it like a person. 201 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,040 Look, I'm dealing with this like what's going on? 202 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,280 If you get that conversational prose right with Claude, it 203 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:53,840 becomes very effective. We had the two sets of, we had 204 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,160 the same matter and testing it out, how he did the command and 205 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,040 how I did the command and transformative, completely 206 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,880 different. His was basically wrong. 207 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,960 Mine was correct. It's just that kind of tech and 208 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,040 you know, generally in gaming and stuff like that, I know AI 209 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,960 is going to be very divisive, but I feel like people will 210 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:14,960 change their minds when they see what's going to happen. 211 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,040 Look, I don't like NVIDIA as a company. 212 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,600 I don't like that Jensen Huang, whoever his name is. 213 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,840 A lot of people think that because I've got 1590, I'm 214 00:11:22,680 --> 00:11:27,240 simply for NVIDIA. I simply for tech like I really 215 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:29,000 want. Look, I have a finite amount of 216 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,280 years left on this planet. I been gaming since I was a 217 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,800 freaking embryo and I had, you know, imaginations about where 218 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:40,640 gaming is going to go end up. And part of the depression about 219 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,400 the state of the industry and the collapse of AAA is that 220 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:47,040 we've hit that ceiling, which is a big reason why I'm so excited 221 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,640 about GTA 6, because that's going to represent the big step 222 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,480 up that we'll see for maybe a decade or so. 223 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,080 So many developers that I interviewed at GDC were like, 224 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,000 you hope, you hope. But even in other developers, 225 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:04,040 like, yeah, they've all, from a development standpoint, really 226 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,280 keen on seeing where the tech was going to go. 227 00:12:06,560 --> 00:12:11,160 And I know DLSS 5 was massively, massively controversial, but for 228 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:15,160 me, it wowed the shit out of me. It wowed the shit out of Digital 229 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:18,080 Foundry until they found out, holy shit, other people don't 230 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,680 like it, let's renege on it. And I thought that is. 231 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,600 I, I, I thought that was crazy that they're like, they were 232 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,880 like, oh, this is awesome. And then everyone was mad about 233 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,440 it and then they changed their opinion. 234 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:34,320 That, that is the biggest weakness I've seen in Digital 235 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:38,600 Foundry ever, because all they do is OK, obviously beauty, 236 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,120 subjective. And so when they comment on 237 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:43,120 something like the beauty of something like DLSS 5 taking 238 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,920 things up, OK, fine, they can offer their opinion, but them 239 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,400 actually expressly saying, as Richard did better saying, but 240 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,400 perhaps we should have waited to see the audience reaction before 241 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,240 giving our opinion. I'm like, what? 242 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:59,440 How could you say that? That's not how it work. 243 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,160 That's that. That was terrible. 244 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,320 That was terrible. Look, I'm not going to go after 245 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,120 it ever came off to Digital Foundry because they were 246 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,480 impressed with the tech and then you had to, what's his name, 247 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,080 John Lineman. And he's always I'd love to have 248 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:14,600 his John. You always love to cry about 249 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:15,840 this shit. You're lovely. 250 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:17,440 You're Sega Mega Drive and I get it. 251 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,640 But at a certain point you have, I think it's going to be 252 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,680 transformative. I I don't trust NVIDIA alone to 253 00:13:24,680 --> 00:13:27,280 be the, the harbingers of this tech and how utilising it. 254 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:30,560 But if their promises come true and developers will hold them to 255 00:13:30,560 --> 00:13:34,560 their promise about enabling them to have granular control of 256 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:37,120 a tech like this so that they don't compromise on the visions 257 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:40,120 of the artists that have built these games, Which I, I'm pretty 258 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:43,440 sure that you know, that's not going to happen because game 259 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,520 developers aren't going to go in there, work so hard, tirelessly 260 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,640 build a game. And then when it enabled DLSS 5 261 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,520 and it looks completely different and I'm like, yeah, 262 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,960 fuck it, we love it. There are risks. 263 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,440 There may be risks where some developers might say, look, 264 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,960 we'll do baseline, not that much stuff and wait for DLSS 5 to 265 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,120 upgrade it to make it look nice. I don't think that's an issue 266 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:09,360 because that means that you can now devote your attention in 267 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,480 other areas that have been woefully stagnant in this gaming 268 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,280 space from AI, which is diminutive backwards as fuck. 269 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,400 All the AI issues that we talk about everyone in chat or we've 270 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,160 got large language models here and there. 271 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,720 Go play any freaking single player game and tell me that AI 272 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,920 is astounding. What Crimson desert ghost of 273 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:31,320 Yote. Go see the AI or AI routines. 274 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,680 They're so backwards. They're like 3 gens old. 275 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,440 I'm sorry, but how can you tell me that the game walls are going 276 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:41,240 to look so nice, but then I and your immersion gets completely 277 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,080 shat on when you just observe basic AI routines that are so 278 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,360 droll. So we we're dumbed down to 279 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:52,280 accept that the standard quote status quo of AI is, is is OK. 280 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:54,000 And I'm like, what? Who's pushing it? 281 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,000 No ones pushing it. No ones pushing AI reactive AI 282 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,240 reactive AI conversations to massive events in space, but 283 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,120 massive events and then forget AI physics. 284 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,120 We haven't got liquid physics sorted out yet. 285 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,360 We haven't got physics on our clothes on like holes being 286 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,360 ripped in shirts on. Even in beat him up games like 287 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:15,280 where there's not that many variables. 288 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:18,760 I'm not seeing blood soaked shirts in there the you know, be 289 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:20,840 some of claws up something the shirt rips up. 290 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,360 Even in GTA6. I've been watching trailers so 291 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,720 carefully of it and I know the scope of that game is massive, 292 00:15:25,920 --> 00:15:31,320 despite how incredibly, amazingly ambitious that game 293 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:32,320 isn't compared to everything else. 294 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:33,600 And the budget is like 2 billion. 295 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,600 Like what's if you look, I was watching carefully. 296 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,760 I'm like, oh, the shorts aren't really moving. 297 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:40,920 They're stuck, they're static. They're not like clothes. 298 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,280 That's why it doesn't look as real as real life. 299 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,400 Things like that. That physics hasn't changed, AI 300 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,280 hasn't changed. And I'll be honest with you, 301 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:54,320 Jez, the most ambitious game up until now for me that hasn't 302 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:58,120 been challenged yet is a game that's what, 20-30 years old is 303 00:15:58,120 --> 00:15:59,760 World of Warcraft. World of Warcraft. 304 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:02,960 Yeah, World of Warcraft. How's that the case? 305 00:16:03,160 --> 00:16:06,600 If if he told a younger me who was running around the barons 306 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,480 with a turban on with his undead warlock and they said, hey, by 307 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:13,960 the way, just to let you know, in 20 years, this is this is 308 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:15,360 still going to be the most ambitious game. 309 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,640 Nothing's going to happen. I'll be so disappointed. 310 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,680 And that's where I'm coming from with this stuff. 311 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:24,200 So every time we baulk at tech or advancements in tech, I'm 312 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,600 like, you know, you're out from a puritan stance, which I think 313 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,640 is so much of it is really just putting on a show for social 314 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,640 media. I just, it annoys the shit out 315 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,920 of me. I'm like, OK, right. 316 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:40,480 So I'm going to sit here with my monocle on yes join the Twitter 317 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,000 fucking artist brigades who go learn to draw and that's like oh 318 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,480 show me your fucking drawing. You love your drawing so much 319 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,760 because you hand drew it. I'm like that looks like ass. 320 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:50,520 There's a reason why AI is a threat. 321 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,440 Sorry I had a little rant there but DSS 5. 322 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:58,480 But I genuinely hate the angle of people in the tech and there 323 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:02,400 is definitely a middle ground that's sensible to discuss this 324 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:06,119 tech, but it gets very difficult to discuss it when it's so 325 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:09,480 polarised, when you've got just a bunch of people screaming AI 326 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:12,280 slop and I no one wants to meet in the middle to have the 327 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:16,160 conversation and and a Digital Foundry are getting death 328 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,839 threats because they just wanted, they talked nicely about 329 00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:21,599 it. Well, there's there's no chance. 330 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:22,680 There's no chance to talk about it. 331 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:24,400 So then what do I do? I end. 332 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Up going fucking extreme myself and say fuck everyone else. 333 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,680 AI is the best. It's Jensen hung with gold 334 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,400 teeth. And you know, you have to go 335 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,520 extra just to balance the books because if I have a middle like 336 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,320 middle kind of conversation, it just gets lost in the ether. 337 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,080 No one will entertain it. And the pricks will come back. 338 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:44,440 Doubly strong if you're slightly little bit like muted in your 339 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,080 response or in in enthusing about DLSS fire Vortec. 340 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,160 The you embolden the the contrarians. 341 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,720 So This is why I get my Dick out and I'm like, yeah, go say what 342 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,400 You know for a fact you will play star field with this model 343 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,920 instead of the shitty and PCs I know for Anna. 344 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,760 It's true. You will never play that. 345 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,040 Wait till the tech comes out. Wait till it becomes freaking 346 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,600 mainstream and then watch all those streams and you think this 347 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,200 is like, Oh no, this is not nice. 348 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,520 I'm going to turn DLSS off because it's taking away from 349 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:17,320 the artist's vision. No charts, no charts, no chance. 350 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,400 Sorry, rant over. That was a bad deal. 351 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,600 I said fine, that wasn't. Planned. 352 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:22,680 You done? I'm done. 353 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:24,200 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 354 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:28,880 I think my big issue with it is the economics don't work. 355 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,640 Fundamentally, the economics do not work. 356 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:35,320 Like you talk about things like using IO tech to have holes in 357 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,560 clothes and stuff like that. And it's just like, yeah, well, 358 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:42,600 if, if, if this, if neural IIMPCS have to be, you know, 359 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,480 rendered on a server fundamentally like electricity 360 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,280 stops becoming the problem. Then you start talking about 361 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:53,160 like there's not enough silicon being produced to, you know, 362 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:56,560 facilitate the demand. Like we've started seeing 363 00:18:56,560 --> 00:19:02,240 already clawed and open AI, like reduce the potency of their own 364 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,800 models because they don't have physically enough raw materials 365 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,560 to meet demand. So they're diluting the power of 366 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:13,240 their models because of this. And you know, the, the, the 367 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,400 pipeline for AI, like if you actually look at the business, 368 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,720 the pipeline for the server infrastructure and cloud 369 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:22,000 inference, like it's so fragile, man. 370 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:26,000 It's so fragile because these like the frontier models, like 371 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,200 the open AI frontier models and shit like that, they burn 372 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,840 through GPU so quick. They burn through them, break 373 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,400 them. They have to be replaced 374 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,040 constantly. And you get to a point where 375 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:41,880 it's like, does this, do we even have the tech is real. 376 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,600 The tech is absolutely real. The whole the concept of like, 377 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,760 you know, neural net, artificial intelligence, it's real. 378 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,520 The problem is our entire society in from a in purely from 379 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,880 an industrial perspective like this is before you start getting 380 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,120 into job losses and the economics they're in our 381 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,160 manufacturing pipeline is not ready. 382 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,960 For that kind of stuff. The demand, yeah, it's not. 383 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:06,680 It's nowhere near it. It's crazy. 384 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,160 Let let let them figure it out. Let them figure it out. 385 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,640 But I agree with you. That's kind of tech. 386 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,280 I think that's where the ceiling for the tech is. 387 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:21,920 And that because they you, you saw there was a point where the 388 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,640 AI you saw massive like incremental of not incremental 389 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,600 upgrades. You saw like seismic changes 390 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:31,480 between models and you gain, you gain massive diminishing returns 391 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,080 between model upgrades now. So at to the point where it's 392 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:37,200 like, right, like what's the difference? 393 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,920 And you're right about the environmental element of it. 394 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,480 And whether we have the the capacity to facilitate this 395 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,720 stuff, that is a challenge for the tech in itself. 396 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,600 Whether or not we can resolve it, I don't know. 397 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,760 But we need to have a better way of utilising the energy, 398 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,080 degenerating energy, sustaining that energy. 399 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:58,600 And obviously the governments worldwide have shown massively 400 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,720 that they're well I'll equipped to even have that conversation 401 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,920 as they resist the urge to press that massive red button and blow 402 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,960 up each other. So here's that there's 403 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:14,080 absolutely, I will concede that in terms of the viability or the 404 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:18,840 sustainability of that tech underlying tech to permit AI to 405 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,720 carry carry on developing, it remains to be seen. 406 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,000 But as it stands right now, and again, this is early stage tech 407 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,360 with DLSS 5, you've had 259 years running this, but the 408 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:32,280 intention is to have it on a single card, early tech, that 409 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:33,960 kind of stuff, even in its own right. 410 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,880 When our Digital Foundry saw it, we all saw it. 411 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:42,880 It was the most substantial technical update I had seen in 412 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,000 the gaming space or technological space in the games 413 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:49,320 that in many, many years to the point where it was so 414 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:51,640 transformative, I was shocked by it. 415 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:53,120 Obviously digital. Foundry I'm telling you, man, 416 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,080 I'm telling you the, the what they should have done, they 417 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,880 should have kept it to reflections and water and stuff 418 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:01,320 like that. Because when they put it on 419 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,760 Grace's face, it looked weird and uncanny and glossy. 420 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:10,080 And I think that's when people really sort of like like they 421 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,840 were like, hang on a SEC, this, this don't look quite right. 422 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:17,600 Because human faces are like, there's like a almost 423 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:21,160 subconscious way the brain interacts with the face. 424 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,880 So there's something like something looks off with it. 425 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,920 It's really noticeable, you know, and I think that's where 426 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,640 they made the mistake. If they cooked into like 427 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,360 reflections and, you know, textures or or whatever, 428 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,880 mechanical stuff or abstract stuff, I don't think the 429 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,920 backlash would have been anywhere near as strong as it 430 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,440 was. I said. 431 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,440 I said this the other week. If it wasn't for Grace's face, 432 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,680 we'd been OK. It was Grace's face that set it 433 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,720 off because, and it reminded people of all the, you know, the 434 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,520 grifters that cry about woke characters and stuff. 435 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,560 Like there, there's a genuine conversation to be had. 436 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,600 But then you have your Ian Miles Chong and your, what's his name, 437 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,360 that weird guy. I muted all these guys. 438 00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:02,080 I don't. See those? 439 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,640 Yeah, Grumps, that's why, you know, we see that shit every 440 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,040 time they put they put those AI philtres on to make the chick 441 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,880 look prettier. That's what people reminded 442 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,160 people of the conversation and it put a distaste in their 443 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,200 mouth. But there was other bits of 444 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:20,440 Grace where there's a close up of Grace's teta face, Grace's 445 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,560 face, and it was, it was really on point. 446 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,520 It looked way better. Starfield obviously looked way 447 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,800 better. There were other characters that 448 00:23:32,360 --> 00:23:39,840 just looked really, really good and top IGN is IGN description 449 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,280 is DLSS 5 is a slap in the face. I'm like shut the fuck up. 450 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,560 DLSS 5 is a slap in the face. Now this bit here I'm going on 451 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,280 screen right now. This isn't so bad. 452 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:53,680 You've got the original. The original looks like kind of 453 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,920 basic like where the hell are the textures going on? 454 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,520 Why is it so shit? And I haven't played requiem yet 455 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,520 but now why is it so bad? But then it switches over here 456 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,000 and this is way better. Way better. 457 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,440 Doesn't change the doesn't change the the vision at all. 458 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,440 It looks good. You could see it's more 459 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:12,800 immersive. You can see the light bouncing 460 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,240 in her eyes, the way the lips are. 461 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,600 It's just amazing. This is whole different. 462 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,280 This is where it's egregious because she looks like a model 463 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,800 and like I said the other week, the only time you'd look dress 464 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:25,200 up, she's a her parent, her mum's died is going to her 465 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,240 funeral and you're not going to keep yourself up in make up like 466 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,160 you're Erica Kirk. This doesn't make sense. 467 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,080 So that that is weird. That is weird. 468 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:39,600 So other than that that you know, I agree with you. 469 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,960 If they had relegated it to Oh shit, if they relegated it to 470 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,560 environments only. But even the face stuff was good 471 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,840 though, like this stuff with Leon I thought was amazing like 472 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,240 people even complain about this. I'm sorry what's there to 473 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,200 complain about with this one? Why are you mad that the way 474 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,680 that light look at that, it's just insane. 475 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,280 I want this tech. I can't wait for this tech and 476 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,360 there there will be lazy developers who will take the 477 00:25:05,360 --> 00:25:07,680 piss with it. There'll be good developers who 478 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,920 will maintain the integrity of their art and take this to the 479 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,000 Max. And if the NVIDIA or other 480 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,120 people, AMD, Sony, whoever is starting to use this tech can do 481 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:22,680 this so that you instead of, you know, just brushing up the 2D 482 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:26,280 plane and image at the end of it can enable devs to actually mess 483 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,920 around with the 3D model of the and, and produce stuff. 484 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,160 It's going to be great. And I think the tech's going to 485 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:32,880 be there. The, the utility of the tech is 486 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:38,200 dead if they if it doesn't enable developers to, to have 487 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:40,120 those kind of upgrade. So it is what it is. 488 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,440 And I've said that so many times, but yeah, it is what it 489 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,440 is. But I can't wait for. 490 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,840 It it is what it is, is the collective catch phrase of 491 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,920 anyone who's ever been interested in covering the Xbox 492 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,920 ecosystem. It is what it is. 493 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,120 Me and me and ransacked Oh my oh. 494 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,640 My God, yeah, that's the well, I want to talk to you about that 495 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,120 this week. I've actually, well, just before 496 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:06,680 the show actually, it was a bit more organised and had my list 497 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,640 of topics. Before we go into the schleems, 498 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,440 though, let me just. Schleems. 499 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:13,800 Schleems just made a random word up. 500 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,840 Actually it's not just random words from Rick and Morty, but 501 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:23,040 the Assassin's Creed Creed Cleed Black Flag remake is supposed to 502 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,920 be announced and planned for announcement next week. 503 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,160 Are you an ass? A Creed fan? 504 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,160 I I'm Assassin's Creed Black Flag fan. 505 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,160 Yeah, but I haven't played. I haven't really been into 506 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,280 Assassin's Creed since Black Flag, really, to be honest. 507 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:49,400 It's just been like the the the games are also samey and I feel 508 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560 like every time I've stopped playing one, I just think I've 509 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,840 already played this, I've already played this. 510 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,640 You know, I was enjoying, I remember quite enjoying origins 511 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,640 when origins came out because it was a little bit different, like 512 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:02,800 they they were from the witcheroo and they made a bit 513 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,720 more RPG oriented. But then just like, and this is 514 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,000 this is very much a me problem. I was just thinking, man, this 515 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,640 is too big. And I ended up not finishing it 516 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,840 because it was just just so big and so vast. 517 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:16,720 And I suppose like, I just, I was at a point in my life where 518 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,800 it was just like, I want something that feels a little 519 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,040 bit more focused, I guess, you know, And I say this as someone 520 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,600 who's put hundreds of hours into World of Warcraft's life 521 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,760 expansion. But, you know, World of Warcraft 522 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,320 is like, you don't even have to think playing World of Warcraft, 523 00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:35,480 you know, like, I don't have to follow a story. 524 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,120 I don't know, you know, and I'm chatting to friends and stuff in 525 00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:39,640 the game. It's, it's, it's a little bit 526 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,560 different than a social thing, you know? 527 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,080 Yeah. It's it's a social thing almost. 528 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,080 Yeah, it's a bit, it's a bit different to like, like what you 529 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,120 get out of Assassin's Creed potentially. 530 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,000 And if I'm going to play one of those games, I kind of won a 531 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,400 game where I'm already invested in the characters and every 532 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,480 Assassin's Creed is different. So like, obviously I'm looking 533 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,280 forward to the next side, bonker next Witcher. 534 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,920 And those universes are just, I don't know, more interesting to 535 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,680 me, I guess. But I still root for the game 536 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:12,120 because, you know, I know it's got a lot of fans and a lot of 537 00:28:12,120 --> 00:28:15,120 my friends really into it. And I want them to be happy. 538 00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,880 And it kind of sucks, like seeing how Ubisoft sort of I 539 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:23,120 love really hard over the the last few years, right? 540 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:25,320 They've had a lot of problems, Ubisoft. 541 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:29,800 So I'd be, I'd be happy for them to have, happy for the devs to 542 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,040 have a bit of success, bit of like something positive to 543 00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:37,200 celebrate I suppose. Yeah, no, absolutely the Black 544 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,080 Flag I I'm not saying Black Flag 10 times fun. 545 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:47,160 She's a nice try. I the Black Flag was the last 546 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,560 Assassin's Creed game I played. I thought, oh, this is actually 547 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,800 fun. And then I didn't carry on 548 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,600 playing it. I actually thought that was a 549 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:58,320 great game. And I you guys, I'm not a fan of 550 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:00,520 Assassin Creed's. I just think that they haven't 551 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:05,440 their their formulas been just they just rinse, repeat, just 552 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,880 Ubisoft the shit out of it. And I at the same time I was 553 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,160 like, Oh, you're remaking it again, like great. 554 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Like I have no respect for Ubisoft. 555 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,600 I'm sorry they OK they do a couple of things right. 556 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,960 They will go back to a game after releasing it and make 557 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,400 massive changes to make it work as it should have done in the 558 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:24,920 1st place. OK that's great. 559 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:27,640 I put respect to them. Hopefully sometimes they will 560 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,280 learn to actually get the product right in the 1st place 561 00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:31,920 as opposed to doing it after the fact. 562 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,880 In that sense though, I will respect that they do genuinely 563 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,440 care that they go out of their way to fix shit. 564 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,200 Fair enough, but they just shit it out. 565 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,840 There's just shit out the same stuff their their road map. 566 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:48,720 Like Ubisoft entire strategy as a company now is to just rely on 567 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,000 their their their big one games. They're bit Assassin's Creed, 568 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,800 Far Cry. What will happen to Splinter 569 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,360 Cell? They don't even have any respect 570 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,960 on that name. Put respect on it. 571 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,520 The only one thing, that one thing there's a saving grace 572 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,880 that I'm looking forward to and Tom Henderson keeps telling me 573 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,240 is being developed really well and is coming across one they 574 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,800 haven't cancelled. It is beyond good and evil too, 575 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,600 and I'm like, what? Why have they not cancelled 576 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,120 that? And it's in the multiple 577 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,320 millions, like eye watering amount of budget for that game. 578 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,080 And I'm like Ubisoft hasn't cancelled it. 579 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:26,120 Like why haven't they not cancelled it? 580 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,800 Like it doesn't make any sense like it I but it's Ubisoft. 581 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,040 They're they're still committed to it. 582 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,480 Fine, but let let this game come out a Really. 583 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,680 If they haven't cancelled it, it must be amazing. 584 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,120 Well, The thing is, Tom Henderson's seen it. 585 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,040 Thomas says, why do you see my full name? 586 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,400 All the time? I was, I was trolling him in San 587 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:51,840 Fran. Just random people. 588 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,440 I'm like, hey, this is this lady in the in the lift. 589 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:58,800 I'm like, that's Tom Henderson. She's like, oh, oh, Americans 590 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,840 are so nice. They were like, they just don't 591 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,320 want to be rude to you. I'm like, yeah, that's Tom 592 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,760 Henderson to a random person. And she was like, oh, and Tom, 593 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,720 what the fuck are we doing? And if this is someone in 594 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:11,120 English person, go. That's Tom Henson. 595 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,320 Oh, fuck. Why are you talking to me? 596 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,880 Who are you? But yeah, that's Tom Henson. 597 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,640 But he's seen the game, he said. It's actually very, very 598 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,920 impressive. So let's wait and see whether 599 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,200 Assassin's Creed Black Flag remake announcement does happen 600 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,600 next week. I'm sick and tired of fucking 601 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,520 remakes, OK? The only remakes I'm excited 602 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:36,760 about are old ass games that could make a big difference in 603 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,800 the way they're realised today like Ocarina of Time that's 604 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,720 supposed to have a remake. If that has a remake holy shit 605 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,720 you don't understand that. And it's Nintendo they surely 606 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,680 can't just shit it out Not over HD operates all the shit 607 00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,080 bollocks known. I don't care. 608 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,200 Remake remake that amazing amazing. 609 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,920 I would love a remake of that remake off games like Vagrant 610 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,600 Story. You people don't even know what 611 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,160 that probably is because that's showing my age, but. 612 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,440 Oh dude, I've been playing a game that kind of reminded me of 613 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,480 Vagrant's Story this week. Are you there? 614 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,160 Dread Illusion. Dread Illusion. 615 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,320 Dread Delusion. It's. 616 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,040 Called Dread Illusion. Video on my Yeah, we had some 617 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,480 footage of it on my show on Friday. 618 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:30,000 It's like they intentionally like, recreated the PlayStation 619 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,960 1 graphics pipeline for it. Oh, it's like a retro kind of 620 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,200 RPG. I'm putting it on stream right 621 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000 now. Moral windy kind of thing. 622 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,960 It's but like as I was planning, I was just sitting there 623 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,440 thinking like, man, this really, really reminds me of Vagrant 624 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,120 Story. Like the vibe kind of thing. 625 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,800 Yeah, definitely some inspiration there, but Vagrant 626 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,440 Story is fantastic. Like I've no idea why that never 627 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,680 got some kind of remake or remaster. 628 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,160 Some of these some of these old school games are just like 629 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,120 there's such a blueprint for a great modern gaming. 630 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,880 Absolutely. It hasn't aged fantastically 631 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,280 well, but like. Absolutely it could. 632 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:12,920 Absolutely could. Vagrant Story was incredible and 633 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:15,520 I never got to complete one of those when I please remake it 634 00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:19,400 because it was it was a special game technologically on the 635 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,520 PlayStation one, it was struggling. 636 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,840 There's just a lot of brown, a lot of brown triangles, but you 637 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,440 could tell this. Is a lot of very, very short 638 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:32,440 draw distances. Yeah, a lot of fog and mix and 639 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,880 bits of black. Like, yeah, I'm sorry, I 640 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,520 remember crazy crazy Syphon Philtre, another game that could 641 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,240 do really well. A lot of people have been 642 00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:45,120 begging for a Syphon Philtre remake to come out. 643 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,320 Isn't there a rumour that they Sony rejected a pitch from Bend 644 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,280 for Syphon Philtre? Yes they did, but that sucks and 645 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:58,240 they're probably greenlit another nameless gas game which 646 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:02,480 is cancelled now which is horrendous but give me remakes 647 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:07,160 like that and I will say fine. Even the Halo Well actually next 648 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,040 topic Halo campaign involved and I think it's a pointless remake. 649 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:15,320 I don't know why this is this Halo campaign involved had a 650 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,560 remake. Well, I say it's pointless. 651 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:22,960 The real reason is this, they are capitalising on the 652 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:24,840 PlayStation crowd because that's what they're patroning for. 653 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,760 Type in Halo campaign involved 1 million views on the PlayStation 654 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,080 channel. How disgraceful man. 655 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,639 Oh the fucking how can you do that? 656 00:34:33,639 --> 00:34:37,000 I should say my doubt that you heard us Halo campaign involved 657 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,800 is apparently got a release date that's been leaked. 658 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,360 Well, what is it actually? I should I should actually find 659 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:45,960 out? July 28th is. 660 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,120 It July 28th. This is why you have Jazz Jazz 661 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:52,920 on. I think it's a good time because 662 00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:56,840 Xbox has a problem this year, a major problem, a good problem to 663 00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,520 have, but it's still a problem. And the problem is Xbox has way 664 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,760 too many games coming out and GTA makes squeezes though the 665 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,720 breathing space that these games have. 666 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:12,960 So you've got next month Forza Horizon 6, which we'll talk 667 00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:17,040 about next. Forza Horizon 6 is is a big 668 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,080 title. It'll be a massive seller. 669 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:23,840 It's not on PlayStation Day one, so that kind of dampens the 670 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,160 schleems a little bit in terms of its sales, but it's going to 671 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,200 be a big game. Either that that. 672 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:34,560 Does the schleems bad schleems the best, But you know, fair 673 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,160 enough. But you've got You've got 674 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,360 replaced coming out in a couple of a couple of weeks. 675 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:40,840 This is an indie title. Fair enough. 676 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,360 It doesn't need that much breathing space, but that, you 677 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,480 know, you should still give it enough, you know, marketing 678 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,280 person, you know, speaks to the variety of Xbox. 679 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,560 I'm looking forward to it a lot. So you've got to replace coming 680 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,520 out. Then you've got a Forza Horizon 681 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,120 coming out next month. Then you've got this coming out 682 00:35:57,120 --> 00:35:59,800 in July. What did you say in July? 683 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:05,760 What July? 28th, 20. 8th July then then 684 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,280 you've got Fable coming out. So I'm, I'm confused, Jess, can 685 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:14,880 you explain to me when are you expecting Fable and Gears of 686 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:21,720 water come out? Man, I suppose like I don't, I 687 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,720 just want to prefer preface this like because some of my 688 00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:27,760 speculations from the show the other day have become headlines 689 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:33,400 this week, which is annoying. But I suppose like this is just 690 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,800 speculation. I don't know when those are 691 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,720 coming out. I I did corroborate the July 692 00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:40,960 launch window for Halo though, so I do think that's true. 693 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,320 OK but like with regards to fibre and gears, I have no idea. 694 00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,440 But I suppose like you could slap gears. 695 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,280 Like I mean, do we know Forza's launch date? 696 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:55,240 It's more like I've been round there because he know. 697 00:36:55,240 --> 00:36:57,080 He knows all the shit off the top of his head. 698 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,640 Rad, I know you are there somewhere. 699 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,920 Tell us. His internet's been fogged the 700 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,720 last day or two. He's been reading books and 701 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:09,720 hasn't checked his Internet. Yeah, yeah, maybe. 702 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:15,240 But when I don't know, man. I suppose like they've got like 703 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:19,160 a window, they've got to be sort of like they've got to avoid 704 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:23,280 GTA, right. I think, I suppose for 705 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,680 Microsoft, the, the big, the big money sink I would imagine has 706 00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,520 been Fable. Like Fable's been one of their 707 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,080 monstrously expensive games. It kind of needs to. 708 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,040 It needs to show up and do pretty well. 709 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,440 I would imagine so. May 19th. 710 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,240 John's and the Chaps as May 19th. 711 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,400 May 19th for for for Forza, yeah, yeah. 712 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:52,600 So yeah, I mean, do what's the launch window for GTA again? 713 00:37:53,240 --> 00:37:59,840 NN So I suppose like maybe you could do August for Gears 714 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:03,200 because they've launched Gears in August before, I suppose. 715 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,160 I mean, it's a massive RPG and you need to give that enough 716 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,560 breathing space. When are you releasing that? 717 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,400 I think your priority should be. September, I would imagine. 718 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,720 September. So August. 719 00:38:13,720 --> 00:38:18,120 August. For Gears, and then, you know, 720 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:22,160 you get a month for Gears and then you do the next, you do 721 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:27,120 your Game Pass churn and then you do Fable the next month and 722 00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:32,880 that's your Game Pass for that month and then you know, and 723 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,160 then that's it. I suppose. 724 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,240 A month breathing space. For Fable and then go to gears 725 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,320 or gears for a month and then Fable, it's a it's a tough one, 726 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:42,640 man. And then bear in. 727 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Mind, I don't think you do it afterwards because I think 728 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,640 people are going to be on GTA like for quite a while. 729 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,760 So I wouldn't do it afterwards if it was me. 730 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,840 But the end of the day, it's got to come out when it's ready. 731 00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,120 They can't like rush that shit and they also can't like they 732 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,240 can't just delay it forever. Like sometimes like you just 733 00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:03,200 have to No, you're talking about Fable. 734 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,160 Like at some point you just have to, you just have to accept that 735 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,800 it's got to come out now. I think it's at. 736 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:16,040 That stage now, yeah. But but remember in September 737 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,640 you've got Wolverine coming out as well. 738 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:22,000 So it's going to be a very tight and that's just first party 739 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,360 titles I'm talking about. So there's a lot Xbox. 740 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,680 I feel like one way or the other Xbox by choosing to I'm just as 741 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:30,840 surprised with the. Geese not going to be on PC 742 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,800 though right? What Wolverines on PC? 743 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,680 Wolverines not on peace? No, it's not on PC, so I don't 744 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,160 think they're really bothered about Wolverine like that would 745 00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:43,480 be about GTA. The GTA is on PTA, you have to 746 00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:44,600 think of it. So I. 747 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,080 Mean. Considering considering that 748 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,200 it's not on PCI, suppose that gives Fable. 749 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,160 That actually gives Fable a lot of runway like it could. 750 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,840 It could be the, you know, the big PCRPG for people who aren't 751 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,840 going to go and buy a console for one game. 752 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,920 Like. Me like and like me as well and 753 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:09,360 like and they're obviously is all these rumours that Sony's 754 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,320 quitting, quitting PC, but. Oh yeah. 755 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,080 I really think, again, I, I just think that's silly because I 756 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,560 think most PC gamers aren't just going to run out and buy a 757 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:24,480 PlayStation, which, you know, crazy expensive just to play a 758 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,160 few exclusive. I did that. 759 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,560 At least you bought the Pro before the price hike. 760 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,160 Yeah, yeah, but some of us aren't, you know, multi 761 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,840 millionaires, bro. I wish I was, but yeah. 762 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,680 But I mean PlayStation. But you would be if you weren't 763 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:40,640 living in London. Maybe that's true bro. 764 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:42,440 Fuck it all man. The the. 765 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,920 Yeah, I think about the. The Midlands, you live like a 766 00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,120 king. Fine but if you move to someone 767 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,080 like freaking Thailand or somewhere bro or you, the money 768 00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:57,160 would go so far. When I was in, I was in Taiwan 769 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:02,000 airport and I was like, I was like stunned girl. 770 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:05,400 I went to a vending machine and like a bottle of cola was like 771 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,600 $0.50, you know, EUR like 50 P less than that. 772 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:15,640 It was like $0.50 EUR. So like what, 45 P for a bottle 773 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:17,880 of cola. I was like, I haven't seen these 774 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,760 prices. I don't think I even saw those 775 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,120 prices in the 90s. Man, for a bottle of cola. 776 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:27,920 Yeah, yeah, yeah, 56. It's it's hard to imagine that 777 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:33,200 is the old days. 50 Pi, remember 50 P for a can Now it's that's 778 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,280 what I'm saying. They're like, it doesn't make 779 00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,120 sense. Inflation is so disgusting right 780 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,480 now. And yeah, the the money I'm 781 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,760 paying just for my mortgage. You know what I could get for 782 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,640 what if the world goes to shit? By the way, where would you go? 783 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,680 You have to. I want to start asking this 784 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,040 question to every guest so I can understand where the best place 785 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,800 to escape is. Where would you go chat if the 786 00:41:56,800 --> 00:42:00,240 world if we're about to enter into World War three, what's the 787 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:03,720 best country to move to or place to move to? 788 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:07,000 Where would you move? I, I wouldn't move, man. 789 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,440 I just, I just, yeah, I'd just be like, yeah, whatever. 790 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,480 No, no bad, good innings. I'm fine. 791 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,360 He's like, he's not even going to try. 792 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,800 I'm not. Even going to try no. 793 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,200 I would move to like. I don't know man, Give me a cup 794 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,400 of tea, give me a cup of tea and a a deck chair and then I'll 795 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,800 see. I'll stay in front of it. 796 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,360 New Zealand is a good shout. You know, New Zealand is a 797 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,240 beautiful place. It's just stunning place, nice 798 00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,680 bit of nature, a lot of greenery. 799 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,360 It's just nice. A sheep A. 800 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,640 Lot of sheep. That's Wales. 801 00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,240 Why is everyone in chat typing in Chinese and then saying 802 00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:48,440 something else is that's me, my PC that I was doing on my phone 803 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:52,000 and I'm seeing it now. Something Chinese Taoseti. 804 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:57,400 Taoseti, by the way, is in in Marathon. 805 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,040 It's one of the that that's where the the planets are, where 806 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,800 you move. It's also the planet that or the 807 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:10,680 star system, I should say, in Project Hail Mary where they go. 808 00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,840 Really good movie, by the way. I haven't seen that. 809 00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,480 Yeah. Slight tangent. 810 00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,040 Rand used to always recommend the book. 811 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,320 Bro, he recommended to me last year. 812 00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:24,560 He goes Gaz project Hail Mary is what he read like 178 books last 813 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,400 year. So this guy reads like he he 814 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:30,200 knows his shit every sci-fi because yeah, I've read it 815 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,160 already. He's he said project Hail Mary 816 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:38,960 is incredible and I I watched it and I liked it a lot. 817 00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:43,080 This is a really good movie. And you know Ross's name, the 818 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:44,680 main actor. I've always forget his name. 819 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:45,960 Osling. Ron Gosling. 820 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:47,160 Yeah. He was really good in it. 821 00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:48,560 Really good in it. He's. 822 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,600 Ron Gosling's fantastic. I'd love to go. 823 00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,320 Yeah, no, really, just really good. 824 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,320 I think he's underrated as well. I think a lot of people like to 825 00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:55,840 hate on him. He's really wooden and stuff 826 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,320 like that. It's not like Keanu Reeves. 827 00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:00,840 He's a good actor. He's been in my some of my top 828 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,680 movies of all time, the main one being freaking Blade Runner 829 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,840 2049. I thought he did amazing job. 830 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,320 Like Blade, I love that Blade Runner movie. 831 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,200 Blade Runner 20. It's 2049, right? 832 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,360 Yeah, yeah, I get the numbers mixed up. 833 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,040 I love that movie so much. I thought it was perfect. 834 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,960 I thought it was perfect, perfect, perfect. 835 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:25,080 And then, like, failed. That box office was that that 836 00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,880 it's a flop. Is that it's a box office flop. 837 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,040 It is my #1 movie of all time, and it flopped. 838 00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:37,480 And it is such an indictment on the tastes of humanity that that 839 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,200 movie flopped. It's I hate it because like the 840 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,440 director blamed himself and he was like, Oh yeah, I should 841 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,760 never have tried. Yeah, you don't have said. 842 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:49,200 That yeah, honestly, I'm like, bro, you're fucking talking. 843 00:44:49,240 --> 00:44:52,400 I felt so bad for him. I was like, bro, you fucking 844 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,960 nailed it. I love the original, you know, I 845 00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,480 love the. Original as well, but this is 846 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,520 just for me it was better. It was way better. 847 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,920 Barbie completely smashed out of the park be a bacon. 848 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:05,640 So it's like safe and LG was a flop too as well. 849 00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,480 Nate Dogg says then that's that goes to show that crazy. 850 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:13,840 That's just mental that that's the case and it's such a under 851 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,000 well under appreciated in my opinion. 852 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,320 What do? You say it was a. 853 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,160 Flop. The original was a flop as well. 854 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,760 The original Blade Runner was a flop as well. 855 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:23,800 Commercial failure. Oh. 856 00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,400 Yeah, yeah, it was. I don't get that. 857 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,520 I don't fucking get. It I don't get it either man, 858 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,560 like what I say everyone knows that like cyberpunk. 859 00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,080 Like. Post apocalyptic, love the vibe 860 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,480 but it's just don't know. People would rather watch Barbie 861 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,800 or whatever the fuck. It's just ridiculous. 862 00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:41,400 I didn't know the original was a flop. 863 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,400 Yeah, original was a flop. It's called classic. 864 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,200 That's insane to me and. You know what? 865 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,280 Are you all saying this? I will say. 866 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,480 This it's one of the best movies ever made. 867 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:52,720 I know I know bro. For me Blade Run 24 is the best 868 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,680 movie I could. Even down to the font they used 869 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,000 at the start of the movie to set up you know the mini story. 870 00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,480 Like I'm like the music the way it comes in. 871 00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,280 The cinematography is used so much. 872 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,160 Anytime I watch any YouTube tutorials on cinematography it's 873 00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,640 just Blade Runner 2049. Always whoever is the 874 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,640 cinematography did for that incredible, incredible, but that 875 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,520 that's that's the way the cookie crumbles like real art is never 876 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,920 really appreciated. And in a way I will say this 877 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:28,680 though, look at the end of the day, it came out and we can cry 878 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,280 about it not being a success, but there doesn't need to be a 879 00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,800 Blade Runner 2079. We got it. 880 00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:37,880 We can complain about it. Other people didn't appreciate 881 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:42,760 it, but in a way, isn't that kind of cool that a smaller 882 00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:45,200 group of people who in my opinion, it's not, it's not 883 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,400 elitism, it's just like, but in a way it is. 884 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:51,280 It's like, oh, you filthy casual fucks don't even understand. 885 00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,560 When I meet someone who's goes, I love Blade Runner 2049. 886 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,080 It was a work of art. I know I have something in 887 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,720 common with that man because I know that man has at least some 888 00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:06,000 appreciable baseline creativity or or appreciation for for 889 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,560 creative talent. So I don't know how we got to 890 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,080 that. We're talking about. 891 00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:11,280 What the fuck are we talking about? 892 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,280 I have no idea. This timestamp is going to be 893 00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:17,640 nightmare, but it's true. A Jared letter, that's what. 894 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:18,920 Happens when you podcast for bed. 895 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:22,160 Yeah, exactly. There's no consistency or 896 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,760 structure. You know, that's that's the best 897 00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,800 kind of chat. Let me do these game chats. 898 00:47:27,240 --> 00:47:29,840 Look, you have to title it a certain way. 899 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,560 So people like you want to go ahead and talk about, you know, 900 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,520 games or the performance and stuff like that. 901 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,920 But you the whole point about these chat show, I don't know, 902 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,480 people want the same audience, want the same kind of 903 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:45,360 conversations, but I want to have a fluid conversation about 904 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,640 random things and I want to like I'm like, I'm so grateful to 905 00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,760 shout out to 122 people to chat smash the like button, man, 906 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,080 that's insane. If you think about a room, you 907 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,600 don't need to do big numbers, so you're used to it. 908 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,520 But think about in my head, even if I have more than 50 people, 909 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,400 it's insane. Or even less, say more than 20 910 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,760 people, it's insane. 122 people watching and say in the hall, 911 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:08,040 it's fucking crazy. So for me to talk about random 912 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,720 shit is even more mad. And for me to talk about shit 913 00:48:10,720 --> 00:48:12,880 naturally about things that I care about and other people 914 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,880 actually have a like kind of vibe with. 915 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,480 That's the whole point of doing the podcast. 916 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:19,800 That's what you want. Some people will have a career 917 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,200 out of it. They they rely on the money for 918 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,600 it or whatever, or they're just grifting for the sake of it. 919 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,760 The numbers, they're driven by the rat race or whatever that 920 00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,560 whatever, that's your prerogative. 921 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,800 That's fine for me. I'm in a fortunate position 922 00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,640 where I just want to do this as creatively. 923 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,080 It's really nice to be able to do that. 924 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,040 So kind of. I never, I never, I never. 925 00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:42,400 Like, one thing I'm really desperate to hold on to is just, 926 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:46,600 is just the knowledge that, you know, I think a lot of creators, 927 00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:49,920 when they get to a certain size, they just start, they forget 928 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,920 that kind of where that came from, you know? 929 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,240 Yes, yes. And like me and Rand have been 930 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,800 doing this for a long time now, like 8 years grinding most the 931 00:48:57,800 --> 00:48:59,560 vast majority of Fridays for eight years. 932 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:00,920 That's. Mad. 933 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,200 And you know we've. Think about that. 934 00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,560 Eight years. Ago we rode the pandemic wave so 935 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:08,720 hard. We rode that way the pandemic 936 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,200 pandemic was yeah, everyone's stuck online. 937 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:14,640 So we we can't we were really lucky that our podcast was 938 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,080 growing during the pandemic. But you know, I, I never want to 939 00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,520 be. I always want to sort of 940 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,280 remember where I came from and pay it forward as well, you 941 00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:26,120 know? Absolutely. 942 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,240 Pay it forward. But yeah, to the right people to 943 00:49:29,240 --> 00:49:34,040 the audience, and something is if you learn lessons about 944 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,200 people as well. But that was Project Hail Mary 945 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,000 and it was a nice little life lesson. 946 00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:40,840 He's like, what the fuck are these guys talking about? 947 00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:43,920 We talked about Halo campaign involved. 948 00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:47,200 Oh, OK, talk about this. This week or a couple of days 949 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,560 ago, we had a lot of fiery conversations about Cyberpunk. 950 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:56,400 Got a PSSR or PlayStation 5 update and it did a good job. 951 00:49:56,720 --> 00:50:00,680 It brought in ray tracing in its pro mode or something like that 952 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:05,400 and a lot of people comparing it with PC and it did really well 953 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,480 favour it. It was very favourable in terms 954 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,440 of PC. Incidentally, a lot of people 955 00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:11,920 are so salty. Oh guys, you're talking about 956 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,160 why are you bringing up APC Cyberpunk just when you're so 957 00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,720 salty? Ironically, literally a day 958 00:50:18,720 --> 00:50:22,640 before Digital Foundry's coverage of Cyberpunk and and 959 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,320 that stuff all were the release of this update for Cyberpunk, 960 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:30,000 Gene Park had tweeted out Oh my God, path tracing and PC gaming 961 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,120 is the one. Like for Gene Park to say that, 962 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,680 that's a bit weird. Like Gene Park is appreciating 963 00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,600 PC gaming and path tracing on visuals and the day before that 964 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,600 I need to reinstall this game because this is a game that 965 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:45,400 looks insane. Now the PS-5 Pro has a very good 966 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,440 looking version because ray tracing. 967 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,240 A lot of people say it's a gimmick, it's bullshit, blah 968 00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:50,600 blah blah. It is not. 969 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,920 I had a 2070 and I had Cyberpunk running and I had it on ray 970 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:58,600 tracing mode and it was struggling at 3040 frames. 971 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,240 But I every time I turned it off I was like oh it's just, it's 972 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:02,680 without ray tracing. It looks like shit. 973 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200 Ray tracing addos. No, you know, it's not just 974 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:09,440 shiny reflections. So kudos to the PS-5 Pro, which 975 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,760 I still haven't taken out-of-the-box because I'm 976 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:17,600 waiting for Soros, but it's doing a good job of upgrading. 977 00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:21,360 You know, Mark Cerny has done a great job of updating this thing 978 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,880 after a year after he's he's met at this promise. 979 00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:26,760 And there's a seismic change between the way the cyberpunk 980 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,440 was running before and now. So you got to give your flowers 981 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:37,080 to PlayStation for how it's running the Cyberpunk, but don't 982 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:42,440 you motherfuckers ever make the mistake of comparing it to PC 983 00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,360 when it comes to path tracing? I saw so many of you little 984 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,600 bitches crying but we got parity. 985 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,840 You're wasting money. You are last Gen. 986 00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,280 You are not even in the conversation until your console 987 00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:59,360 can play this game with part tracing on because it is This is 988 00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,680 my gameplay that I recorded and it's fucking crazy. 989 00:52:02,680 --> 00:52:04,640 Look at the gameplay on it right now. 990 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,480 I I don't even optimise or anything this OK, I was just 991 00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,160 running out of 59. You look at this part trace it 992 00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:15,320 looks beautiful. You wish you wish your game on 993 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,720 your console ran it like this. It's a beautiful, it's 994 00:52:18,720 --> 00:52:21,720 beautiful, absolutely stunning, absolutely stunning. 995 00:52:21,720 --> 00:52:27,760 I can't it's just so nice to run this with path tracing on and 996 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:31,200 it's just a whole different. The amount of details you see on 997 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,480 this shit is fucking crazy. It is mental. 998 00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:36,720 I love this shit. Look at it. 999 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:38,840 You can just stare at it all the time. 1000 00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:46,200 And I've been a big proponent of, you know, UE5, a lot of 1001 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,080 people understand that I would much rather prefer proprietary 1002 00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:51,160 engines being out there. But the reality how you have to 1003 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,160 concede is that not making bespoke engines like Red engine, 1004 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:59,000 it's not not feasible. That's why I freaking the CD 1005 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,160 project read and moved away from it. 1006 00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,240 But look at it, it looks freaking insane. 1007 00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:06,360 It this looks next Gen. You wish console peasants, you 1008 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,000 peasants wish you had this. Wait till next Gen and then 1009 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:11,480 you'll get it. But this is beautiful. 1010 00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:13,960 This is running on the dream punk mod as well. 1011 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:19,360 It is so nice, so nice. The game is just beautiful, 1012 00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,000 beautiful On PC. There's no comparison. 1013 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,840 There was a clip going around where someone had shared a clip 1014 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:28,080 and a lot of people like wrongly said no, that's the PC version. 1015 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:32,160 I'm like, OK, that's a bit that's egg on your face there. 1016 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:38,680 But the reality is y'all lady, y'all even on the same freaking 1017 00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:41,200 universe when it comes to a real rig. 1018 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,320 I see a lot of the PC guys say, oh, another value point. 1019 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,280 You know, Alex will say though, in terms of pound for money 1020 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,320 value, I don't do that argument. I'm not I'm not sitting here 1021 00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:54,960 trying to pretend like yeah, sure, a grand for a PlayStation 1022 00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:59,480 5 Pro is a lot compared to what used to use to pay for for 1023 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,160 consoles And but PC gaming prices are exactly very cheap 1024 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:07,200 and it's expensive to get all the balls to the wall stuff 1025 00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,080 running. But when you do get it running 1026 00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,640 and it looks like fucking this that don't say shit like like, 1027 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,040 bro, you're not running it like this. 1028 00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,000 It costs money. I'm not arguing about the value 1029 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,160 for money shit like listen, but I'm running it like this. 1030 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,160 Look at the freaking detail. It's beautiful. 1031 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:29,760 But I just wanted to say never run starting. 1032 00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:31,920 I called you around then what if? 1033 00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,160 What if you have to wear these? If you have to wear these, it 1034 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,000 doesn't matter what a game looks like because you can't fucking 1035 00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:40,960 see anyway. If you're blind, I can't help 1036 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,280 you. I'm sorry that is an issue. 1037 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,080 I'm I'm I'm I'm rocking, you know, my Xbox series X and I 1038 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:54,360 play, I play my games in, you know, in blurry 4040 P sometimes 1039 00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,560 and I'm I'm fine. I'm, I'm rocking with it because 1040 00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,960 you know, I can't bloody see it anyway. 1041 00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:04,000 Bro obviously if you can't see the graphics I can't help you 1042 00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:07,200 but this isn't 1 was like you. Oh you strain your eyes. 1043 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:11,560 As a different note, it is fun. Path tracing is a game changer. 1044 00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:13,840 A lot of people complained about because the consoles couldn't 1045 00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,560 really do ray tracing well so they just oh ray tracing is a 1046 00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,120 scam. Ray tracing is a gimmick and all 1047 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,640 of a sudden that did it in quick U-turn. 1048 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,400 As ray tracing became more and more prevalent in games that 1049 00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,280 became more viable especially on the pro. 1050 00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:29,920 So now there's AU turn and now you're like, OK, you understand 1051 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:31,320 it. OK, now do you understand path 1052 00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,160 tracing? People are even downplaying 1053 00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,120 that. If you're downplaying path 1054 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:35,920 tracing, you're a fucking idiot. That means you just don't. 1055 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:40,000 Your eyesight doesn't work. So and next Gen when path 1056 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:44,080 tracing does come to consoles, which it will for the PS6 and 1057 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,120 the Project Helix or whatever the next Xbox is called, you'll 1058 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,800 see the same narrative shift again. 1059 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,280 But part tracing is not a gimmick. 1060 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:54,720 It is amazing. And if you like dank schleems, 1061 00:55:54,720 --> 00:55:57,360 hit the like button. Yeah, but I have you have to 1062 00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:58,600 give respect to the PlayStation 5 Pro. 1063 00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,920 I will respect the place where I'm pro for doing better stuff 1064 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:06,000 but getting support, but don't bring it in the same 1065 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,200 conversation as PC got PlayStation guys like, Oh yeah, 1066 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,400 it goes so so with PC. But then when you bring a 1067 00:56:11,400 --> 00:56:13,000 pastor, Oh yeah, how much does it cost? 1068 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:14,880 I'm like, hold on a minute. If you can't have your cake and 1069 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,520 eat it, if you're going to get involved in the PC argument, 1070 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,040 don't don't fucking cry about the price of my components. 1071 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,360 This is PC. This is this is premium PC 1072 00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,080 gaming. You're not on the in the 1073 00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:30,520 conversation yet. So suck my yeah, so that was 1074 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:31,560 Cyberpunk. I don't know if you want 1075 00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:35,440 anything to add to that. South Point Good. 1076 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:39,200 South Point, Great. Where the Hell's this rumoured 1077 00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,920 Witcher 3 DLC though? I want to say I want to. 1078 00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,720 Apparently there's is. There I I think I've I've 1079 00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,160 talked. About it, we're supposed to be, 1080 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:49,120 we're supposed to be getting that. 1081 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,840 I we're talking about Witcher as well. 1082 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,000 I really do want to go to see the team. 1083 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,000 I got invited to see one of the Vallamortis guys teams in 1084 00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:00,320 Poland. I think they've got team. 1085 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,160 See, the project already got a team in Poland as well, part of 1086 00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,960 Insider Gaming the City. Project Ready is based in 1087 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,720 Poland. That's what I mean, yeah. 1088 00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:12,720 So I would I if I if I can double whammy it, go see the 1089 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:17,000 Vallamortis guys as well. Level up games and also see with 1090 00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,480 them. That would be amazing because. 1091 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,160 I went to I went to see the project Rd. 1092 00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:28,160 I went there yeah, you did for for cyberpunks DLCI think I went 1093 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:33,120 there the expansion man I it's so it's so damn cool though 1094 00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:34,600 there. I really, really like Poland 1095 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,800 actually. I heard it's good great things 1096 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:39,360 about Poland actually really nice to actually visit for 1097 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:40,760 holiday. Which I might. 1098 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,760 I need to do it. I do want to do. 1099 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,720 I do definitely want to check out crack out as well. 1100 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:52,760 So it's it'll be it'll be lit Someone in the chat goes oh 1101 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,280 shit, I've got a thingy chat as well. 1102 00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,480 Sorry, shabs, I've been meaning to read it shabs because jazz 1103 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,760 Viking in the making. Hi all, happy birthday, guys. 1104 00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,800 Let me not bring that getting fuck you. 1105 00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,640 Thank you, shabs. Yeah, you have Viking beard. 1106 00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:11,080 It looks good. Don't ever shave it because that 1107 00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:14,960 would look fucking weird. Oh, I did. 1108 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,440 The last time I fully shaved my beard was probably about 15 1109 00:58:18,440 --> 00:58:21,000 years ago. And I was like, this can't 1110 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,760 happen ever again. I can't do it again as well. 1111 00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:27,240 I've gained weight as well so that and after I have two months 1112 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,320 to lose it for my ceremony. Oh yeah. 1113 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,200 Literally on the day of Xbox's fucking showcase thing, it was 1114 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:41,680 amazing. Yeah, someone in the chat goes, 1115 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:47,280 I love that gas speaks for 0.019% of PC gamers. 1116 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:50,880 It's like, that's not true. That's not true. 1117 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,240 Chat chat's hilarious. Crimson does. 1118 00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,840 It really does have the wow factor when it comes to graphic. 1119 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:01,720 It doesn't. It does have Yeah, it does. 1120 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:07,080 It looks really good and fonts in the chat loves loves Crimson 1121 00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,760 desert and the game does look amazing and he's got a 40 night 1122 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,800 here as well so he's enjoying that with maximum schleams. 1123 00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:21,280 So yeah, this came from you. This bit of news apparently, and 1124 00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:28,800 this would be a seismic bit of a big dent in the Xbox game pass 1125 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,440 sustainability argument. You are? 1126 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,320 You're saying that Xbox are considering ending day one? 1127 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:40,760 It wouldn't surprise me. Call of Duty on Game Pass Jess 1128 00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,040 Corden. I did. 1129 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:47,680 I did say that I've heard it's something on the cards. 1130 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:51,000 I don't know if they'll actually do it or not, but I think 1131 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:55,560 they've, you know, identified the obvious, which is the price 1132 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,240 is too high. And I think now, like we're a 1133 00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,160 few months out from the initial announcement, people's 1134 01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:05,800 subscriptions are lapsing now. And also another thing that 1135 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:09,640 happened recently, which might also be a factor, Microsoft kind 1136 01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:14,920 of deactivated. Like there's a lot of Xbox Game 1137 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:18,920 Pass Ultimate cards out there that still have the original 1138 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,240 price on. So like if a retailer's got 1139 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:25,520 those original $20 cards, like $20.00 a month or whatever, 1140 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:29,920 apparently they've started remotely deactivating those now. 1141 01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,080 Well, so someone buys those cars, they could get screwed and 1142 01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:35,120 they won't be able to redeem them. 1143 01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,800 Yeah, I think so. So Amazon for a long time was 1144 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,280 offering Game Pass Ultimate. Well, retail has been advised to 1145 01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:45,960 stop selling them for for one thing. 1146 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:52,440 But but Amazon, for example, was selling, still selling the old, 1147 01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:56,080 still selling the old, the old rag, because I presume they had 1148 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:59,880 a huge stock of, you know, original cars or whatever. 1149 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,880 And now they've run out and it's gone to the $30. 1150 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:06,480 And I think like at this point where people actually have no 1151 01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:10,800 choice to pay $30, people are just like, you know what, I'm 1152 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:13,400 out. So I think Microsoft had to 1153 01:01:13,400 --> 01:01:17,240 really look at like, is this viable now? 1154 01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:21,200 Because a lot of people like don't even play Call of Duty 1155 01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:22,840 when it's in the service, I suppose. 1156 01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:26,240 Or like they do, but they wouldn't apply to otherwise. 1157 01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,840 And even if they do play, they're not necessarily going to 1158 01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:32,640 be like converting to buy more transactions or stuff. 1159 01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:38,240 So to speculate, I think it just it harms the Game Pass business 1160 01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,760 model and it probably harms the Call of Duty business model 1161 01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:42,360 you're saying Game Pass is harming. 1162 01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:46,480 Call of Duty. Yeah, because I would say like a 1163 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:50,440 lot of because Call of Duty is, I mean, Kotick talked about this 1164 01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:54,520 like Call of Duty was built up and around the the idea of every 1165 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:59,320 year you pay for a full new retail game, you know, and 1166 01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:03,520 that's not just like that's like retail visibility in shops and, 1167 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,440 you know, and all the rest of it. 1168 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,280 And the whole business model revolved around that for like a 1169 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,200 million years. And Game Passes disrupted that, 1170 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,240 you know? I don't think it's even led to 1171 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,320 massive increase or I don't know if it has a massive increase of 1172 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,880 that combined with the massive price and negative PR men they 1173 01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:28,880 didn't get that massive price. I think like, I think for me, I 1174 01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:32,040 would imagine, and this again is speculation for me, it's like 1175 01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:35,960 I'd imagine the Game Pass imagine Call of Duty being in PC 1176 01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:40,760 Game Pass did help PC Game Pass adoption, but I imagine it 1177 01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:43,240 probably didn't do a fat lot for a console because I would 1178 01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:45,360 imagine consoles pretty much maxed out now. 1179 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:49,400 So in that universe where it's like you have to kind of decide 1180 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:53,880 or choose between like do I want to have, do I want to have a 1181 01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,080 really strong Call of Duty or a strong Game Pass or whatever. 1182 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:59,080 I think you can't really do both. 1183 01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:02,760 I think that it has to be either separated out or there has to be 1184 01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:07,240 like a super premium tier, which not only gives you Call of Duty, 1185 01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:09,840 but also gives you like a bunch of other shit like maybe World 1186 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,760 of Warcraft subscription and whatever else. 1187 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,040 And then actually like the, the rest of the day, one catalogue 1188 01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:22,320 has to be on the, the $20 tier because I don't know, I just 1189 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,640 think they've, they've probably looked at all the data and just 1190 01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,920 been like, this ain't working. You know, it's, and it's just 1191 01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:30,920 not going to work. But again, I might be wrong, you 1192 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,840 know, so I didn't report on Windows Central. 1193 01:03:33,840 --> 01:03:36,960 I just reported it, you know, in the podcast as a sort of rumour 1194 01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,640 that I've been working with. I've heard it now from like 3 or 1195 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:44,240 4 people and it increasingly looks like, you know, there's no 1196 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:45,960 smoke without fire kind of thing. 1197 01:03:47,040 --> 01:03:49,640 That's a big changes. I'm hearing members of massive 1198 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:52,320 changes happening to Game Pass, something about the game day one 1199 01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:53,920 stuff. Call of Duty, you wouldn't 1200 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,720 surprise me. I'm looking at your quote that 1201 01:03:56,720 --> 01:03:59,720 we've had on our website at Insider Gaming. 1202 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:02,040 It's nice though, cross pollinate between publications, 1203 01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,280 isn't it? But here we have you saying Call 1204 01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,760 of Duty is going to vacuum up a lot of that revenue, which kind 1205 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,440 of eats into how much money you get month over month to actually 1206 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,520 get new content. And you need new content to 1207 01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:14,800 prevent churn even in an off year. 1208 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,840 Call of Duty is so big that it's source of harms game pass, but 1209 01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:20,320 at the same time the idea that you don't have to buy Call of 1210 01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:23,760 Duty and get it cheaper kind of also hurts Call of Duty in 1211 01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,600 reverse. So what you're basically 1212 01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:31,440 suggesting there is a game pass which as a service and the 1213 01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:33,600 manner which you expect you get it for cheaper. 1214 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:37,080 Actually values of damages the value proposition of full price 1215 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:41,080 titles. I mean, again, it's speculation. 1216 01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:42,680 I don't have the, I don't have the balance sheet. 1217 01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,760 So I don't know for sure. But even if you're confusing 1218 01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,520 about the speculation, the point remains that you do perceive how 1219 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:53,400 Xbox Game Pass is damaging to a value proposition of a big AAA 1220 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,120 title. Yeah. 1221 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,640 Well, one of one of the things like, I mean, you've seen 1222 01:04:57,640 --> 01:04:59,560 Fortnite have massive layoffs recently, right? 1223 01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:02,560 Yes. One of the things that, yeah, 1224 01:05:02,680 --> 01:05:05,560 one of the things like free to play games are like free to play 1225 01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:07,800 games in general is a segment of finding. 1226 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,920 This is something I've talked to with, you know, some high up 1227 01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,720 gaming execs. Something I'm researching 1228 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:18,560 currently is that people's use, user behaviour has changed 1229 01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:22,720 around free to play games. Like as people like over as 1230 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,080 they've sort of price couch skins and stuff like that and 1231 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:28,560 put the prices up. They've gotten to a point where 1232 01:05:28,560 --> 01:05:32,600 it's like they've priced themselves out of the market. 1233 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:36,240 People feel squeezed right now and a lot of these free to play 1234 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,080 games are just sort of getting to a point where it's like 1235 01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:43,520 people just play them for free, which is a problem because it's, 1236 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:47,920 it's free to play, but it's, it can't be, it can't be free to 1237 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,160 play because it's servers cost money, right? 1238 01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:55,800 So the, the, the abundance of people who just now don't spend 1239 01:05:55,800 --> 01:05:59,440 any money on micro transactions and they're just content to just 1240 01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:03,600 play and never touch any of that shit has become a problem. 1241 01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:06,640 Which is why, like I keep hearing that Fortnite's going to 1242 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,600 have like ads in the loading screen stuff eventually. 1243 01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,280 Again, one surprise. And other games. 1244 01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:14,000 Yeah. And other other free to play 1245 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,880 games as well. Like looking at this concept of 1246 01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,240 like ads in the lobby, ads in the loading screen, you know, 1247 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,280 to, and this is like, this is what happens in an industry 1248 01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:24,280 where there's no, no, no new growth. 1249 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:29,400 You know, all the little kids want to play Roblox and there's 1250 01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,320 no, there's all the, all the people left on console and 1251 01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:36,320 variety and core gaming. They're all ageing out or, or 1252 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,920 dying. Ageing out or dying, That's. 1253 01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:39,840 So grim. Yeah. 1254 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,480 So, yeah. So it's it's kind of like you, 1255 01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:45,280 you have to look to what what the next bit of growth is, or at 1256 01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,640 least in the in the short term, how can you stay ahead of 1257 01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,480 inflation? And putting ads in the loading 1258 01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,840 screen is probably one thing, but and then it kind of like 1259 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,000 comes back to what we're talking about with Call of Duty and Game 1260 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:00,000 Pass. Like if, when, when Call of Duty 1261 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,680 is in game Pass, you can kind of think of it as functionarily a 1262 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:08,200 free to play game, right? If if those people who otherwise 1263 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:12,880 would never play Call of Duty don't actually buy a skin or 1264 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,640 anything like that, then you know, Call. 1265 01:07:15,640 --> 01:07:17,480 What does Call of Duty again in that scenario? 1266 01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:20,920 Like somewhat someone engages with the game and but they don't 1267 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,200 spend any money in the game. So then you have to charge to 1268 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:26,560 make it worthwhile. You have to charge back Game 1269 01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:31,120 Pass for the weighted engagement figure or whatever formula they 1270 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:32,080 use. I can't remember what it's 1271 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:35,280 called off the top of my head, but they use some, they use some 1272 01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,280 formula when like there's a games and game pass like a vowed 1273 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,040 or whatever else, and there's the certain amounts of 1274 01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,560 engagement. They use some kind of formula to 1275 01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:47,800 charge, get the Game Pass subscriber base fund for that 1276 01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:49,640 engagement. They charge back, right. 1277 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:54,800 And if like, if you've got a game like, you know, Call of 1278 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,560 Duty, which is going to be very popular in Game Pass and 1279 01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:01,840 nobody's actually spending any money, you're kind of like the 1280 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,440 only way it makes sense for that studio is to take the money out 1281 01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,440 of the Game Pass fund. And if you're taking money out 1282 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,840 of the Game Pass fund, then you've got less money to to 1283 01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:12,760 offset the churn month over month. 1284 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,520 So it just, it's such a sort of breaks of business model, I 1285 01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:20,560 think so, you know, but the, the problem is, it's, it's kind of 1286 01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:24,600 like what Microsoft used as an argument to push through the 1287 01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:26,880 original deal for activism, right? 1288 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,520 They were like, we're going to make Call of Duty available to 1289 01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,279 more people and it's going to be in Game Pass, it's going to be 1290 01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:34,880 cheaper, you know, and they, they made these arguments to 1291 01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,279 regulators kind of, I mean, I don't think it was necessarily 1292 01:08:38,279 --> 01:08:41,800 in the agreements they signed with regulators that it would be 1293 01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:44,000 in Game Pass. But you know, it's, they didn't 1294 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:49,640 make some of these arguments. So I don't know it's, it was an 1295 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,279 experiment. It didn't work. 1296 01:08:52,040 --> 01:08:54,600 It seemed like it might work because everything's a 1297 01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,840 subscription now. And but it just hasn't led to 1298 01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:00,680 the growth they wanted it to achieve. 1299 01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:06,520 And I would imagine that, you know, the amount of good, decent 1300 01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:09,160 sources I've had on saying that they're thinking about getting 1301 01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,080 rid of it. I kind of believe it right now, 1302 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:14,680 but we'll see what happens. I don't reckon, which is why 1303 01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,479 it's not in a report. I don't see Game Pass even in 1304 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:18,600 the. Comments. 1305 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:20,600 Yeah, yeah, I I get where you're coming from, but there are 1306 01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,240 murmurs I'm hearing from all, all all over the place. 1307 01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,960 And the Game Pass barely features really in conversations 1308 01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,479 when it comes to statements coming out from from the execs. 1309 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,640 Although they did, you know, the last partner showcase did show 1310 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,399 an appetite to support it by third party strongly as well 1311 01:09:37,399 --> 01:09:40,000 with a really good game. So Game Pass is still pretty 1312 01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:44,720 decent that talks about a game pass tier that only has first 1313 01:09:44,720 --> 01:09:47,359 party titles in it. It's something I would be. 1314 01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:52,960 Very on yeah. So that's like the code name red 1315 01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:57,160 PHX data mined. He's a he's AX cloud. 1316 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,400 He makes an X cloud app to do that. 1317 01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:05,000 He reverse engineers the X cloud interface and API in order to do 1318 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:07,080 that. And as a result, he ends up data 1319 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:13,040 mining a lot of the stuff. So it's kind of like he's like a 1320 01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:15,040 really good source for this. He was the first person who 1321 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:18,320 discovered the original changes from from the state of mining 1322 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:22,360 activities. So I would, you know, this 1323 01:10:22,440 --> 01:10:24,880 Triton thing is probably a definitive. 1324 01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,360 I would say it's a certainty, you know, but I think it's a 1325 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:29,360 good challenge. I suppose it's good. 1326 01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:35,160 I think that would be good. Yeah, I think, I think it's it, 1327 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:38,440 it helps them in a few ways. Like like it's something that 1328 01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:40,920 they could bundle and package for PlayStation potentially. 1329 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:46,160 And you know, bundle and package for iOS and Android and get 1330 01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:49,040 around some of those platform rules where they don't want a 1331 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:53,880 company to offer third party, third party storefronts or 1332 01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,960 whatever. But like, if it's if it's their 1333 01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,480 first party content and they want they want to offer it, you 1334 01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:01,440 know, it's it's a different argument, right. 1335 01:11:01,880 --> 01:11:06,560 So I think it's it's I think that's probably a Sir. 1336 01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,960 I just the question for me is where does it show up? 1337 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,200 Does it show up on Nintendo Switch? 1338 01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,880 Does it show up on PlayStation like on I'm intrigued like 1339 01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:13,640 they'll? Want to? 1340 01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,920 They'll want that to appear on PlayStation and Nintendo. 1341 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:20,520 Outside the very least, it's going to be like Apple TV, maybe 1342 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,800 Netflix. Netflix Cloud is doing pretty 1343 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:27,840 well at the moment, like, you know, in comparative terms, you 1344 01:11:27,840 --> 01:11:34,400 know, the the app, the Netflix Cloud gaming app was the number 1345 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:38,080 one downloaded app on iOS for a little while. 1346 01:11:38,080 --> 01:11:40,120 The redemptions in there now and some other stuff. 1347 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:42,040 Yeah. So it's what it is. 1348 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:46,440 It's like it turns your phone into a controller, which is a, 1349 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:49,000 you know, if you're a casual gamer and you don't have a 1350 01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,040 controller and you don't want to bother messing around pairing up 1351 01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,280 your phone with Bluetooth. It's like a Director cloud 1352 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,720 controller. Playing Red Dead on that would 1353 01:11:56,720 --> 01:12:00,360 be asked. Yeah, but like you, you play it 1354 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:02,480 on your TV, your phone's the controller. 1355 01:12:02,680 --> 01:12:04,960 I know, but as a controller? The phone controller for Red 1356 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:06,680 Dead Redemption. Can you imagine playing that 1357 01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,680 awful? Oh yeah, I suppose, but I mean 1358 01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:12,120 there there will be games where it doesn't feel so bad, I 1359 01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:15,520 suppose, but it was the number one downloaded app in in any 1360 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:17,600 case, and I have no idea what Microsoft didn't think. 1361 01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,080 Oh shit, why didn't we think of that? 1362 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:21,200 That's like a there's a no brainer really. 1363 01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:23,600 Turn your phone into a controller and for for games 1364 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,320 like vampires or wives or whatever, a director cloud as 1365 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:29,080 well because it uses the Wi-Fi instead of your TV's Bluetooth. 1366 01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,960 So it's like less latency, right? 1367 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:36,760 But anyways, it was, you know, and Microsoft could do a deal 1368 01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:39,600 with Netflix where it's like subscribe to Netflix, you get 1369 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:42,840 this, you get these Xbox first party games because Microsoft 1370 01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:45,920 has been pretty aggressive putting their games on NVD, 1371 01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,000 GeForce Now and some of the other cloud platforms. 1372 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:51,240 Like, I can't remember the name of it off the top of my head. 1373 01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,560 There's some of the like, smaller cloud platform gaming 1374 01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,840 cloud platforms where Microsoft games exist. 1375 01:12:56,840 --> 01:13:00,960 So yeah, I don't know. I think it's the thing that will 1376 01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:02,400 probably happen. Yeah. 1377 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,320 I was like, what's? Yeah. 1378 01:13:04,320 --> 01:13:07,000 What's the fight of Call of Duty on Game Pass in that universe, I 1379 01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,600 suppose. I guess they'll. 1380 01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,000 Yeah, I don't care of Call of Duty is in Game Pass. 1381 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:15,720 I mean, I put I put a poll up on Twitter to the effect earlier 1382 01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,040 and I was like, would you would you prefer like a cheaper Game 1383 01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,400 Pass or would you would you want Call of Duty in there? 1384 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:24,160 And most people are voting. I would prefer a cheaper Game 1385 01:13:24,160 --> 01:13:26,320 Pass, you know. Yeah, absolutely. 1386 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:29,200 I would I. Would I don't, Yeah. 1387 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,600 If Call of Duty is in Game Pass, then I'll play it, but if it's 1388 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,840 not, then I'd rather have the cheaper, cheaper price point, 1389 01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,840 you know? Yeah, I'd rather have $20 Game 1390 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,000 Pass than Call of Duty in there, personally. 1391 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,200 Absolutely, same here. I think most people would in 1392 01:13:43,240 --> 01:13:46,080 fact let me do a poll right now. Would you have? 1393 01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:48,240 Would you have? Would you? 1394 01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:58,440 Would you take out COD from a game pass if it became if it 1395 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:03,120 became cheaper? Why am I doing it? 1396 01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,840 All capitalised. Terrible poll. 1397 01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:09,320 You're yelling. And I'm not yelling, I just 1398 01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:12,560 capitalise every some random words there. 1399 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:16,800 Don't ask me why the start of the word or we will see how 1400 01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,040 many, how many people actually like it. 1401 01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,120 But I think the vast majority will probably say yes, 1402 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,280 definitely would, because the Call of Duty has also fallen by 1403 01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:25,480 the wayside. Yeah, I know they'll have to go 1404 01:14:25,480 --> 01:14:28,160 back and fix this to, you know, blah, blah, blah, the usual COD 1405 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,640 cycle. But that and it's the sales 1406 01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:35,640 would have hurt the shareholders will be making decisions quite 1407 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,880 snap decisions anyway. And I don't think maybe game 1408 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,600 Passes, I don't know. I don't know actually, at one 1409 01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:42,320 point I would like how many people actually came in and 1410 01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:44,040 subscribed to Game Pass cause of Call of Duty. 1411 01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:46,320 If there's a lot of people there, then fair enough. 1412 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,640 But if it does leave Game Pass, that doesn't surprise me either 1413 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:53,600 because the negative feedback. I really reckon that with the 1414 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:59,280 Game Passes price hike, it hurt the overall perception of the 1415 01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:03,080 the service so badly. Remember, it crashed the pages 1416 01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:07,000 of service cancelling subscriptions crashed Even so I 1417 01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,320 don't know what's happening with Game Pass and you know, at the 1418 01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:13,360 moment it's just like it's in a it's a changes are definitely 1419 01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:15,680 effort. I also don't understand how Xbox 1420 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:21,400 is going to approach the whole hybrid console model and keep 1421 01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:26,400 pay to play online thing going. I feel like they'll have to roll 1422 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,880 that up and reconcile that somehow with Game Pass. 1423 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:34,880 I've heard that like, at least at some point, the plan was to 1424 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,120 get rid of the π Wolf and multiplayer on Helix, 1425 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:43,080 specifically Helix, because like, how, how can you do that? 1426 01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:45,040 You know, if it's APC, like, how can you have it? 1427 01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:49,240 But I don't know if like that'll end up being the case or not. 1428 01:15:49,240 --> 01:15:51,280 I mean, it's something we've talked about for years. 1429 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,720 And I think Phil has even been on the record in interviews 1430 01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,000 signing, you know, to the effect of it feels anachronistic to 1431 01:15:57,000 --> 01:16:00,160 have to pay to access multiplayer services. 1432 01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,000 But it's also like people do it and it's a lot of money. 1433 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,720 So like, how do you how do you reconcile that on the balance 1434 01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:08,400 sheet? You know, whoever the CFO of 1435 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,040 Xbox is these days, I kind of because it's not Tim Stewart 1436 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,440 anymore. He's he's now running Bethesda, 1437 01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:18,520 I think, or something like that. I don't know, it's weird times. 1438 01:16:19,480 --> 01:16:24,960 OK, Doctor Scott is like, oh, I tell you, he's he's been crying 1439 01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:28,200 in the chat this whole day, but he was saying, so where would it 1440 01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:29,560 go? Just the chat Scroll down. 1441 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,360 I will take out Call of Duty, but that's not what made game 1442 01:16:32,360 --> 01:16:34,400 pass more expensive. A little embarrassing the 1443 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:38,480 simplicity of thinking here. I think we're trying to espouse 1444 01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:41,520 if taking call of. Duty it is what my Game pass 1445 01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:44,720 more expensive. I know it is, you know so. 1446 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:47,680 Oh, it did. Yeah, it is What? 1447 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:51,680 I mean Game Pass would have gone up all the time, but it it is 1448 01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:55,880 specific like price hikes happen, but like 50% price hike, 1449 01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:57,880 you can bet your ass it was Call of Duty. 1450 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:02,160 Yeah. Fans makes a good point. 1451 01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,640 If they take out Call of Duty and don't put the price down, 1452 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:06,400 that'd look awful. I think so. 1453 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:10,920 There's no, there's no universe they'll do that unless they're 1454 01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:13,440 just, I mean, maybe I jinxed it by saying that, but like, that 1455 01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:15,000 would be so dumb if they did that. 1456 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,680 I mean, if they took Call of Duty out there and didn't lower 1457 01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:20,320 the price, you can just kill the whole thing. 1458 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:21,720 Like what? What's even the point now? 1459 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:28,960 I don't. Know, I mean, yeah, I don't give 1460 01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,440 a shit that has to. Come down. 1461 01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:33,160 If you remove Call of Duty, the price has to come down. 1462 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,960 OK. It's too expensive in my view 1463 01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:39,120 70. 5% of people on the poll have said that they would take 1464 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,840 out Call of Duty from game from Game Pass if it became cheaper, 1465 01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,960 which doesn't surprise me. I think that makes sense. 50% 1466 01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:50,840 was a ridiculous amount of pier stake and. 1467 01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:54,480 We we're the hardcore as well and and like 75% are saying that 1468 01:17:54,480 --> 01:17:57,800 like imagine what like casual people who only really play, you 1469 01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:00,000 know, a few games. Think about that exactly. 1470 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,200 They would definitely take it out I. 1471 01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,840 Would think, I mean the casual games don't even probably even 1472 01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:06,480 still know what Game Pass is about because marketing has been 1473 01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:10,560 so atrocious. So it is what it is again and 1474 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:16,600 another it is what it is. I want to talk about a good 1475 01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:19,680 friend Asha Sharma. Parasocialize. 1476 01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:27,200 Asha Sharma has been doing actually she's she's, she's on a 1477 01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:32,880 net positive at the moment. Asha Sharma comes in AI bod, 1478 01:18:32,880 --> 01:18:35,560 lots of controversy coming in. She comes on social media, 1479 01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:38,360 starts interacting with fans over like, oh, here we go. 1480 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,400 You do the same thing though. She's picking up her Phil 1481 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,360 Spencer left off a couple of years ago. 1482 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:45,440 She's now communicating with fans, blah blah blah. 1483 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:47,720 Parasocial thing is working massively. 1484 01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,560 We've got people with Asha Sharma with the crown head 1485 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,240 avatar there. They're just going crazy today 1486 01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,200 or today or yesterday or whatever. 1487 01:18:57,360 --> 01:19:02,280 She the Xbox sent across a a welcome pack or, or just, I 1488 01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:06,560 don't know what it is, Project Helix box with a T-shirt, a card 1489 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,680 card signed by Asha. I don't know if her actually 1490 01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:12,480 signed me. I don't know. 1491 01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:14,600 She said they Paris Lily got one was yours. 1492 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,320 Did you go? You must be on crack if they 1493 01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:20,400 think they'd send me one. Destin Laguerre said got 1. 1494 01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:24,640 And it was quite funny because it's like all right, here we go. 1495 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:29,640 We're doing this thing again. But Asha Sharma might be look, 1496 01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,960 I'm saying this to Paris, speaking to Paris today about 1497 01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,320 this shit, I was like, she's doing quite well so far. 1498 01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:42,000 I went a very early, very early, but one of the first things she 1499 01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:47,080 does, she completely kills that this is an Xbox ad campaign 1500 01:19:47,080 --> 01:19:53,640 which I was rinsing to death and that was the first thing she 1501 01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:55,400 did. Because clearly it was felt that 1502 01:19:55,400 --> 01:20:00,040 this is an ineffective ad campaign as actually doing 1503 01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:03,560 damage to the brand, which anyone could see in my opinion. 1504 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,320 What the fuck? But anyway, it is what it is. 1505 01:20:06,440 --> 01:20:09,040 I keep saying it is what it is. We should have a fucking jar 1506 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:13,920 now, but it is what it is. Then she, in a statement, also 1507 01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,960 says all the right things about making sure that the Xbox 1508 01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,240 consoles first and foremost. That means she understands that 1509 01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,200 she wants to bring the Renegade spirit back with an Xbox, which 1510 01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,400 I want to touch on in a SEC about what that actually 1511 01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,480 entails. She brings back Xbox Fan Fest 1512 01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:30,720 and then only she's bringing it back makes it a more 1513 01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:34,360 international affair. So now it's like screaming 1514 01:20:34,360 --> 01:20:37,960 confidence in Xbox bringing it back. 1515 01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:41,880 Like, hold on, what's going on? And as a result of that, there's 1516 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:46,600 now positive murmurs about, oh, shit, she's going to bring back 1517 01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:48,800 exclusives. Because no matter what you, 1518 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,600 anyone wants to say, how many people have coped and that, you 1519 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:55,360 know, tried to retrofit their arguments or come to the point 1520 01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:57,720 where exclusivity is terrible, blah, blah, blah, blah. 1521 01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,320 The reality is most people really want it back. 1522 01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:05,200 I'm sorry, but that that is the one big thing that is the 1523 01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:08,480 sticking point behind Xbox. They want Xbox fans, whether 1524 01:21:08,480 --> 01:21:11,400 they like to admit it or not, they really do want exclusivity 1525 01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:15,320 or console exclusivity back. Maybe PC that that that ship has 1526 01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:17,840 sailed. And that's fine, because even 1527 01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:19,160 it's a hybrid console. Windows. 1528 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:23,280 And and also, yes, Windows and the the new console is basically 1529 01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:26,520 a hybrid, so which is fine. I don't think that's an issue at 1530 01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,680 all. But they do want to have that 1531 01:21:29,680 --> 01:21:35,000 back now when it comes to the Renegade spirit thing, she was 1532 01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:39,880 appointed by good old Satya Nadella, who I have 0 faith in 1533 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,880 anyway. He's got his fingers 2IN deep 1534 01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:46,800 with the Xbox division in terms of the decision making and he's 1535 01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,840 putting Asha there. If the fact that Asha talked 1536 01:21:50,840 --> 01:21:54,520 about I think is the biggest mistake Asha Sharma has made, 1537 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,920 which either will manifest itself as a mistake or it might 1538 01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:00,240 come out true. But I'm running on the side of 1539 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:03,560 the former is that she's made these statements thinking that 1540 01:22:03,560 --> 01:22:07,640 she won't be held to task very closely to the statement she has 1541 01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,880 made the renegade spirit thing she's going to be remember that 1542 01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:14,080 we hear you with exclusivity when she replied like that. 1543 01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:18,160 That's good that's being held that that's now gospel now from 1544 01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:21,120 the new head of Xbox, that is gospel. 1545 01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,880 But there's so much rumblings about and positive rumblings. 1546 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:28,600 And I'm not just saying from the parasocial crew. 1547 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,480 I'm talking about rumblings generally. 1548 01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:36,680 You know, they are actually a lot of see the Xbox first party 1549 01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,840 developers and students. They have a massive degree of 1550 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,520 mistrust with Xbox because of the fact that Xbox got 1551 01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:45,680 completely distracted by AI. They pulled the rug from Xbox 1552 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:49,600 developers and 1st party studios in their support of them. 1553 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,200 Like we saw with, you know, Zenimax Online. 1554 01:22:52,200 --> 01:22:54,440 I saw the cancellation of so many games developed. 1555 01:22:54,440 --> 01:22:58,120 There's a massive, they've sold massive distrust with with 1556 01:22:58,120 --> 01:23:00,600 developers. In the first part of today I saw 1557 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:04,560 an interview with Pete Hind. Was it Pete Hind shitting on 1558 01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,240 Xbox and how he hated them and it made a mistake? 1559 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:09,840 And maybe suggest that the whole buyout was the reason why he 1560 01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,000 left? He never really liked Xbox it 1561 01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,440 seems and there is a air of mistrust with Xbox. 1562 01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:18,120 So like, oh, you come back now because the AI thing didn't work 1563 01:23:18,120 --> 01:23:20,920 out and now you think you want us to believe that, oh, you're 1564 01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,120 actually all in on gaming again, like what's going on? 1565 01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:27,120 So I know don't blame that mistrust. 1566 01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:32,000 But at the same time, I feel like Xbox Asha Sharma is going 1567 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:36,560 to take a lot of the credit for a lot of the groundwork that 1568 01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:39,640 were done by our predecessors like this this year. 1569 01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:42,120 We've got Fable coming out. And if Fable smashed amazing, 1570 01:23:42,120 --> 01:23:44,560 Asha's going to get credit, even though, you know, Phil Spencer 1571 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:46,600 had been there for God knows how many decades or whatever, a 1572 01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:48,120 decade, and he'd seen that through. 1573 01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,240 But fair enough. Forza Horizon, if that does well 1574 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:53,640 and it looks really good, we'll talk about that in one moment. 1575 01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,840 Previews have come out that, you know, if that does well, she's 1576 01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:58,080 going to get a little bit of credit. 1577 01:23:58,240 --> 01:24:00,200 Gears of War comes out, she's going to get credit. 1578 01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,840 The freaking Xbox showcase event comes out and it shows really 1579 01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:06,120 well and we have surprises. She's going to get credit. 1580 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:09,960 So Asha Sharma comes in out of nowhere with no gaming 1581 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:13,080 experience and decades of planning on Phil Spencer, 1582 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:15,960 working his ass off, getting the studios, dealing with the 1583 01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:18,480 failures. May we all shit on him for as 1584 01:24:18,520 --> 01:24:22,240 well just four games and you know he's aged visibly fighting 1585 01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:24,600 ABK, blah blah blah. Here comes that shower La La La 1586 01:24:24,600 --> 01:24:26,360 La la. Couple of statements here. 1587 01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,720 Fable does well, Forza does well. 1588 01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,320 Hey, well, hey, I might do shit to be honest with you, but you 1589 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:35,360 know, you know, for whatever Gears does well. 1590 01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,920 And then she comes in the next Gen consoles revealed, and it's 1591 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:42,680 met really well. And the signal that would send 1592 01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:46,480 is like the tides are changing for Xbox, but in reality, Xbox 1593 01:24:46,480 --> 01:24:49,000 is finally settling in. I'm not saying that her role is 1594 01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:53,040 redundant, but it may look like the the impact of Asha Sharma 1595 01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:57,960 doing well, Xbox doing well under Asha Sharma's reign, 1596 01:24:58,120 --> 01:25:00,400 should we say, could be substantial. 1597 01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,240 It could be pretty big. And it's just the the lay up was 1598 01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:07,880 there for her. Some people have like criticised 1599 01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:10,600 me because like I wrote an article where it was like, why 1600 01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:13,400 is this happening now? Like kind of sceptical and being 1601 01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,040 a bit negative and cynical about it. 1602 01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:20,120 But after covering Microsoft for 13 years now, it's kind of like, 1603 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:23,440 I feel like I've been here before where it's like things 1604 01:25:23,440 --> 01:25:24,760 seem better. And it's like, oh, they're 1605 01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,320 listening again. And, and then it's like a rug 1606 01:25:27,320 --> 01:25:31,000 poll, you know, at some point. So my, my cynicism is kind of 1607 01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:32,800 like it comes back to some of this. 1608 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:36,360 And you know, when I see like a lot of the things Archers doing 1609 01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:40,400 like, and things that have been attributed to Usher is like 1610 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:42,600 Asher's decision. Like, and I have heard that 1611 01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:46,960 Usher is like reduced a lot of the red tape. 1612 01:25:47,240 --> 01:25:50,760 Like the, some of the like she's kind of like said to Satya, like 1613 01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:53,320 if we were to run this more efficiently, we've got to reduce 1614 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:55,120 the red tape and the approval processes. 1615 01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,760 And I think like they've they've gotten to a place where they're 1616 01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:01,760 more, they can interact more quickly. 1617 01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:07,720 But I think it's also like it kind of bugs me that Phil is 1618 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:12,240 catching a lot of the Flack in a way for for things that happen. 1619 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,920 And sure, like, I'm not, I'm not suggesting Phil didn't make 1620 01:26:14,920 --> 01:26:17,240 decisions that I think were questionable. 1621 01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:20,160 I've said this to I said this to him personally. 1622 01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:26,080 Like I think like a lot of people, that the the de emphasis 1623 01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:29,840 on exclusives was absolutely a fantastic mistake. 1624 01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:34,680 You told him to his face. Yeah, I said, I said it to him, 1625 01:26:34,680 --> 01:26:36,520 Mabui. And I think Aaron was there as 1626 01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:40,840 well in LA. And what why are we doing this 1627 01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:42,920 for? I think that was my actual word, 1628 01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,040 you know, but it's, but at the same time, it's like Phil's got 1629 01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,080 the data, you know, which says, like I think you said, I'm 1630 01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,400 sorry. I don't believe the data. 1631 01:26:54,040 --> 01:26:58,240 He said to kind of funny, like he said like Starfield could be 1632 01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,960 a 12 out of 10 game and it wouldn't move the needle. 1633 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:01,680 That's. Bullshit. 1634 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:03,120 Saying. Like that's a bullshit 1635 01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:06,200 statement. I mean, you know, we don't have 1636 01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,400 a type, we don't have like an alternative dimension generator 1637 01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:12,040 to find out what would happen otherwise. 1638 01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,240 But I do think there's like there is when you're building a 1639 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:19,720 product, you kind of like you can't just have this mechanical 1640 01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:22,440 view of it and you can't just have this view of like we're 1641 01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:25,560 just going to be all data, data, data, data and ignore some of 1642 01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,600 the like the more human, human kind of elements, you know, 1643 01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,720 because there is there is a human, there is a humanistic 1644 01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:35,080 kind of element here where it's like sentiment matters, I think. 1645 01:27:35,080 --> 01:27:38,440 And even if like even if it wouldn't move the needle 1646 01:27:38,440 --> 01:27:41,560 necessarily to have these exclusives, I think it does move 1647 01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,400 the needle in the opposite direction where like people will 1648 01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:46,480 abandoned the platform. Like, yeah, maybe having 1649 01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:49,280 exclusives won't bring people in, but I think not having 1650 01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:54,640 exclusives will force people out, you know, so, but again, 1651 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:56,440 it's like, how how do you, how do you measure that? 1652 01:27:56,440 --> 01:27:59,360 You can't really measure that because you can't, you can't go, 1653 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:02,320 you can't travel to another dimension and and like use 1654 01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:06,160 hindsight or whatever to figure out what's going on. 1655 01:28:06,160 --> 01:28:10,240 But clearly they're, they're eager to change and experiment 1656 01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,320 with things because like, like I say, if Call of Duty true and 1657 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,320 truly is being exited from Game Pass to chase a price drop, you 1658 01:28:17,320 --> 01:28:21,040 know, or like some kind of restructuring a game pass or 1659 01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:23,520 something. I, I, I've got a strong feeling 1660 01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:27,160 like the, the, the way that I've been hearing this information, 1661 01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:29,960 like the recency of it makes me think something might be 1662 01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,040 announced pretty soon with regards to this. 1663 01:28:32,400 --> 01:28:35,480 If it if it is true, like I ain't even, I ain't 100% 1664 01:28:35,480 --> 01:28:40,040 certain, but it's just like kind of like using my intuition after 1665 01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,200 been doing this for so long, like the the way this 1666 01:28:42,200 --> 01:28:44,920 information sort of arrived to me Paris. 1667 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,360 Lily knows stuff, by the way. He knows some shit. 1668 01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:48,920 He's met people he had a phone call with. 1669 01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,200 Some of that he knows. And he told me though, there's 1670 01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:52,600 some shit coming out, coming out. 1671 01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,840 So Paris, Lily knows, like legit directly knows. 1672 01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,960 You won't tell me, obviously. Paris knows. 1673 01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,160 Paris knows a lot. But yeah, he does. 1674 01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:01,160 He does actually generally knows. 1675 01:29:01,160 --> 01:29:03,760 And he's, yeah, he we were talking to the Paris. 1676 01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,440 Is Paris been around the block, man? 1677 01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:08,920 He'll make him sound like a prostitute. 1678 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:10,240 He's. Been around the block? 1679 01:29:11,200 --> 01:29:14,800 No, but Paris, Paris has contacts and he's he's he's, 1680 01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,160 he's hooked up. He knows his shit. 1681 01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:19,640 He won't tell me at all. He's very tight lipped. 1682 01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,040 And that's fine. But there's some it's, it's 1683 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:24,160 still intriguing because there's some big changes. 1684 01:29:24,160 --> 01:29:27,080 So I think you're right about those imminent changes, but I 1685 01:29:27,080 --> 01:29:29,520 find it very interesting. I didn't know that, that you 1686 01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:31,200 said that to Phil Spencer's face. 1687 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:35,920 Respect jazz, respect unlike some people sit in party chat 1688 01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:37,920 and literally just sat there. Suck him off. 1689 01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,960 They don't even mention Xbox. You get said to him in front of 1690 01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,000 Matt booty in front of freaking Aaron Greenberg. 1691 01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:46,160 You said what the fuck are you guys doing? 1692 01:29:46,440 --> 01:29:48,920 And that's exactly the opportunity I wanted to have to 1693 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,520 speak to it. If I reckon if I sat down with 1694 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,400 Asher, I'm like, yo, you need to fucking understand something. 1695 01:29:54,640 --> 01:29:56,880 You want to bring the renegade spirit back. 1696 01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,160 That means you need to be able to fly in the face of the very 1697 01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:03,200 person that appointed you and put you in this position because 1698 01:30:03,280 --> 01:30:07,080 because that renegade spirit requires you to really seriously 1699 01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:09,960 reconsider Xbox's approach to exclusives. 1700 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:12,960 And if you did that, despite the fact that you've opened the 1701 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,880 floodgates and Pandora's box and people think it's completely 1702 01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:20,440 untenable that Xbox would go back to really take away money 1703 01:30:20,440 --> 01:30:25,400 off the table to just cater for a dwindling fan base on just PC 1704 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,240 and the Xbox. You would send out a statement 1705 01:30:28,240 --> 01:30:32,240 that would send a shockwave across the entire industry that 1706 01:30:32,240 --> 01:30:35,640 shows, yes, I am Asha Sharma, this is Xbox. 1707 01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:40,680 And we do have the confidence in our own brand to sustain 1708 01:30:40,680 --> 01:30:44,840 ourselves, whether instead of resorting to a third party, 1709 01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:47,280 which was previously our competitor, and now we're trying 1710 01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:50,640 to rejig the the narrative to say that they're not really a 1711 01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:51,920 competitor. And instead of doing this 1712 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:56,480 halfway house, you did that. You would be very close to James 1713 01:30:56,480 --> 01:30:59,800 Allard, who did the very thing that I'm telling you to do 1714 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,640 because he flew in the face of Bill Gates. 1715 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:05,800 Original Xbox team were very renegade. 1716 01:31:05,920 --> 01:31:09,640 So renegade in fact, that they made Bill Gates storm out of the 1717 01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:13,160 office when they revealed that original Xbox Asha Sharma. 1718 01:31:13,400 --> 01:31:17,160 If you have the testicle wrong with it, if you have the ball, 1719 01:31:17,480 --> 01:31:20,160 you know, I mean proverbial balls and you want to come back 1720 01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:23,920 and say renegade spirit, that's what you need to do. 1721 01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:28,280 And it would benefit if this is not coming from an Xbox stand or 1722 01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,360 anything. I just I'm one of the few people 1723 01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:34,240 who just wants competition in this space that if the edit this 1724 01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:38,040 is such a far, you know, far fetched idea, but it really is 1725 01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:40,240 what Xbox needs to do. But it needs to be backed up by 1726 01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,160 real conviction, real confidence, and that renegade 1727 01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:46,240 spirit manifesting itself in more than just words. 1728 01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:49,880 But if that happened, imagine the landscape the other two 1729 01:31:49,880 --> 01:31:51,680 platform holders are maintaining exclusivity. 1730 01:31:51,800 --> 01:31:53,760 All well and good. You're in 3rd place. 1731 01:31:53,920 --> 01:31:56,000 So it's not like you're doing something so out there. 1732 01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:58,240 But all you're saying is I have brand. 1733 01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:02,400 I have I have faith in the brand that I'm running. 1734 01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:08,000 People will be like, holy shit, these guys have done Xbox going 1735 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,600 back in, fighting to have the next doom, Elder Scrolls fall 1736 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,080 out. All of that shit is coming. 1737 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,960 Staying that I'm going to Gears of War. 1738 01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:18,520 You're not going to have that on PlayStation. 1739 01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:22,560 What the fuck? That would reinvigorate so much 1740 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,000 energy in the industry, galvanised PlayStation to 1741 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:28,120 actually fix this shit together as well. 1742 01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:31,160 So it's not got more cancelled games than announced games. 1743 01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:33,720 Now they have to think about Olly, fuck, these guys are 1744 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:36,200 actually awake. They've got all these RP western 1745 01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:37,760 RPGs. We've got Jack shit. 1746 01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:40,880 They've got a Forza Horizon, which is going to sell really 1747 01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,520 well on PlayStation when they're eventually released. 1748 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:45,920 But we they've got a taste now and now they're pulling it away. 1749 01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:47,960 The next Forza Horizon. What the fuck? 1750 01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:50,200 That little bit taste again, the next Gears looks good. 1751 01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:51,400 They're going not going to release it. 1752 01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,840 Obviously that's coming out on PlayStation, but what the fuck, 1753 01:32:53,840 --> 01:32:55,760 you've given them a taste and now you've pulled it away. 1754 01:32:56,040 --> 01:33:01,080 And it would be it would be so much so good for the entire 1755 01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:02,640 gaming industry. I'm sorry. 1756 01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,640 You're like, how is that good? You're depriving people of it, 1757 01:33:05,840 --> 01:33:07,720 blah, blah, blah. Well, then fucking cry about the 1758 01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:09,920 inequity of the other two platform holders that are 1759 01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:12,800 maintaining exclusivity and are very healthy. 1760 01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,800 So that's what has happened, Asha Sharma. 1761 01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:19,200 It's not just fanboyism, it isn't just this, this whole 1762 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:22,160 console war narrative that a lot of people will still refuse to 1763 01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:23,680 believe that it's coming from me. 1764 01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:26,800 It's coming from a position of showing, backing up your words 1765 01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,160 and doing what Satya Nadella said. 1766 01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,800 He, he, this whole thing was about with the buyout and stuff, 1767 01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,800 which is about competition. All of that went by the wayside. 1768 01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:39,880 You sucked the energy out of the industry and it was Xbox's 1769 01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:41,960 responsibility. It's a trillion dollar company, 1770 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,800 Microsoft's trillion dollar company coming in and brute 1771 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,880 forcing its way by spending money. 1772 01:33:47,440 --> 01:33:50,640 And you didn't have the base decency to maintain the brand by 1773 01:33:51,000 --> 01:33:52,800 competing. Not good enough. 1774 01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:55,320 You need to do that. That's exactly how I would say 1775 01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:57,480 to Asha Sharma. And is there anything less than 1776 01:33:57,480 --> 01:34:00,840 that? We, we just, you're just, you're 1777 01:34:00,840 --> 01:34:05,880 just you're head above water. Xbox is it will be irrelevant as 1778 01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:09,320 a brand in a few years and I sincerely believe that. 1779 01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:14,600 One thing, like one thing I have heard recently is like, because 1780 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,480 there's like a big thing going on in the Windows universe right 1781 01:34:18,480 --> 01:34:20,040 now as well. I don't know if you saw this, 1782 01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:24,120 but Mark, so the Windows team put out a blog post not a couple 1783 01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,640 of weeks ago where they're basically apologised for the 1784 01:34:26,640 --> 01:34:28,360 state of Windows. And they were like, yeah, we've 1785 01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:31,360 got to listen to feedback now. It was literally the same sort 1786 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:35,000 of playbook that's going on at Xbox right now where it's like, 1787 01:34:35,000 --> 01:34:37,160 yeah, we know we fucked up and we know things need to be 1788 01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,200 better. And we're we're getting rid of 1789 01:34:39,760 --> 01:34:42,000 some of the AI stuff that doesn't make sense. 1790 01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:45,240 Like you don't need, you don't need Co pilot and fucking Ms 1791 01:34:45,240 --> 01:34:48,600 Paint, for God's sake. And, you know, they're rolling 1792 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:50,920 back some of this stuff, but also like they're doing like 1793 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,840 little things that people have been asking for, like Xbox, like 1794 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:57,720 bringing back the vertical taskbar because people keep 1795 01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,880 begging for that to come back. And that was like something 1796 01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:03,840 that, yeah, and that kind of thing. 1797 01:35:03,840 --> 01:35:07,680 So there is this sort of like, it feels like a company wide 1798 01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,920 thing. And I've been trying to 1799 01:35:09,920 --> 01:35:14,280 investigate why, why this is and why this is happening now. 1800 01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:15,640 And I don't know the exact reason. 1801 01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:18,560 But one thing I have been told is that some of the margin 1802 01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:21,400 pressures that were being put on exports as reported by, you 1803 01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,560 know, Jason Shrove, Bloomberg. I've told those have been, I've 1804 01:35:24,560 --> 01:35:27,240 been told those have been rescinded and I really. 1805 01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:29,240 Expect that logicals have been rescinded. 1806 01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:34,040 Yeah, From what I've been, what I've heard or or not necessarily 1807 01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,360 fully rescinded, they still have to, they still have to have a 1808 01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:38,840 profitable business. But like I've I've heard they've 1809 01:35:38,840 --> 01:35:41,400 been sort of like relaxed or something to that degree. 1810 01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,960 That's a big deal if that happens happened, because that's 1811 01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:48,160 a big reason why there's so much internal discord between the 1812 01:35:48,320 --> 01:35:51,400 game terms and the management. Indeed. 1813 01:35:51,400 --> 01:35:54,720 So, you know, it's if that is true and they've they've they're 1814 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:57,520 in a position where like not just Xbox, but also Windows. 1815 01:35:57,520 --> 01:36:02,040 And it's kind of like, you know, we kind of the self, the the 1816 01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:06,160 self-imposed austerity that we put on ourselves has led to a 1817 01:36:06,440 --> 01:36:10,000 situation where people are actively looking at our 1818 01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:12,040 competitors. You know, and this isn't just 1819 01:36:12,040 --> 01:36:14,960 like an Xbox thing, but it's also a Windows thing. 1820 01:36:14,960 --> 01:36:18,480 Like, there's some like PC Gamer keeps putting out articles like 1821 01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:20,640 about how great Linux is and like everyone's to switch to 1822 01:36:20,640 --> 01:36:23,120 Linux, blah, blah. Like people hate Windows right 1823 01:36:23,120 --> 01:36:26,400 now. And Microsoft, yeah, Microsoft's 1824 01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,400 earned that with its, with its inaction. 1825 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:33,640 And it's, you know, and I suppose it's distraction as 1826 01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:37,240 Satya was focused so heavily on whether or not this IO thing was 1827 01:36:37,240 --> 01:36:40,720 going to pan out. But I think like when, when they 1828 01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:46,400 look at like where this the, the, the landscape where I is 1829 01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:49,600 right now, it's kind of bottlenecked by the, the amount 1830 01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,480 of silicon that can get all the lack of silicon. 1831 01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:54,040 And it's also bottlenecked by the electricity. 1832 01:36:54,040 --> 01:36:56,400 And it's probably going to take like a decade for that 1833 01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:01,800 infrastructure to build out because like TM, the TSMC or 1834 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:04,960 TMSCI can never remember the acronym, but the company that 1835 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,160 makes all the fucking silicone in Taiwan, like they're like 1836 01:37:08,160 --> 01:37:13,640 actively working towards building new fabrications plants 1837 01:37:13,640 --> 01:37:15,960 and all this kind of stuff. And that's going to take a 1838 01:37:15,960 --> 01:37:18,440 really, really, really, really, really long time. 1839 01:37:18,440 --> 01:37:22,840 So, so in the interim, you kind of need to, you know, fall back 1840 01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,240 on your bread and butter. And your bread and butter is 1841 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:27,920 Xbox and Windows. And unfortunately, if you've 1842 01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:30,640 been like neglecting it like they have been, it's you know, 1843 01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:33,720 it's not going to be, you're not going to have any bread and 1844 01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:37,400 butter when you need it. So it does seem like Satya's 1845 01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:38,920 kind of woken up to some of this stuff. 1846 01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:43,920 And I don't know if you saw as well that since December, Satya 1847 01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:48,080 kind of has a new role and Microsoft, he's the CEO still, 1848 01:37:48,600 --> 01:37:51,520 but like they've handed off some of the business oriented aspects 1849 01:37:51,520 --> 01:37:56,240 of Sati's job to a new, I think he's, his job title is literally 1850 01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:00,280 CEO of business operations. But something like that. 1851 01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:05,440 It's the worst job title ever. But no, I think it's CEO of the 1852 01:38:05,440 --> 01:38:07,520 commercial business or something like that. 1853 01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:12,040 So he's like basically in charge of some of the business oriented 1854 01:38:12,040 --> 01:38:13,880 stuff. And now Satya is like going back 1855 01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:16,880 to a more technical, product oriented role where he's like 1856 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,040 overseeing like the quality of some of this shit. 1857 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:24,080 And I think like that is part of this push to like re engage not 1858 01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:27,000 only with gamers, but also their employees. 1859 01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,600 Like like Satya was there with an Xbox Woody. 1860 01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,160 I don't think that's ever happened before. 1861 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,360 And it just genuinely feels like they've they've realised how how 1862 01:38:35,720 --> 01:38:39,920 bigly they're fucked up. But that again. 1863 01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,120 That kind. Of just I need to see in here 1864 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:44,200 from Asha Sharma. It would be very nice to have 1865 01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,280 her candid interview and say hey, by the way this is what 1866 01:38:46,280 --> 01:38:48,120 happened. We held and I think it would go 1867 01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:50,800 a long way even if it's a public statement that will for the 1868 01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,960 developers internally they're like, Oh my God, she's come out 1869 01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:55,360 and said it like yeah, so typically and you know my 1870 01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,240 predecessor through all Microsoft company, we were 1871 01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,280 distracted by AI and what we didn't do what we didn't do is 1872 01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,560 do right by the what we did by gamers. 1873 01:39:03,560 --> 01:39:06,440 Obviously the pressure that was felt globally has inflicted the 1874 01:39:06,440 --> 01:39:09,440 entire gaming industry was is a problem, but I don't think we 1875 01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:11,880 particularly did well as a result in doing it. 1876 01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:15,720 And This is why we will do X. This is the kind of make me, the 1877 01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:17,760 fucking CEO, brave. I can't even do the whole 1878 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:22,000 parasocial thing and deliver good statements and make Xbox 1879 01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:26,560 great again and the renegade spirit that sound like a MAGA 1880 01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:27,680 line that wasn't intended that way. 1881 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:31,760 But yeah, yeah, Paris is in the chat. 1882 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:33,040 He goes have it. Did I get the top? 1883 01:39:33,080 --> 01:39:37,560 I want to hear about the top five, the top five tips on a 1884 01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:40,800 parasocial tips. I'll tell you the top five tips 1885 01:39:40,800 --> 01:39:43,320 based on what I've heard the parasocial crew do. 1886 01:39:43,600 --> 01:39:47,080 First of all, how? Are social crew. 1887 01:39:47,560 --> 01:39:53,120 I'm not going to mention names. Stalk the stalk Phil Spencer and 1888 01:39:53,120 --> 01:39:57,080 all the execs and and where they're staying at their hotels. 1889 01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:01,200 Two, form a WhatsApp group and give live updates. 1890 01:40:01,320 --> 01:40:05,400 Three, set up a stooge that will be willing to wait for hours on 1891 01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:10,000 end to follow them around to give said live updates. 4, bring 1892 01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,480 some Vaseline. And five, make sure that you 1893 01:40:13,480 --> 01:40:17,960 make it very clear publicly how much the circumference of your 1894 01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:21,240 nether regions has increased. And there you are. 1895 01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:26,680 That's that's a good top five tips on how to be parasocial for 1896 01:40:27,320 --> 01:40:30,280 Xbox. Look there a lot of people came 1897 01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:32,800 up, shouted 150 people. The chat smash the like button 1898 01:40:32,800 --> 01:40:35,880 as we get into the some memes. Paris Lily was reaching out to 1899 01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:37,320 me because they're so pissed at me. 1900 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,960 Just opening to do the unboxing of the the thing. 1901 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:44,560 He was like, he gets shit from PlayStation, you get shit from 1902 01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:46,600 Xbox, but it's the play Xbox stuff. 1903 01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:50,960 Even if it's just a T-shirt, they go fucking mentor about it, 1904 01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:55,120 Which it was understandable. That was a good chat. 1905 01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:58,840 But you know, having met Paris, right, and met a group of 1906 01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:00,720 different type of content creators, Paris is one of the 1907 01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:03,280 few people that it doesn't just mindlessly glaze. 1908 01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:06,960 I think Paris gets a bad Rep as a result. 1909 01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,400 I think the yellow chair thing, yeah, it does. 1910 01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,360 But but I will say that I still don't like the whole parasocial 1911 01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:14,520 thing. I think it's fucking lame. 1912 01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:17,720 And I think that the the how quickly people have jumped on, 1913 01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:21,920 hopped off the Spencer train to the Asha Sharma train is insane. 1914 01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:24,960 I find it cringe. I find it weird. 1915 01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:28,760 And I feel like as grown adults, you get manipulated by 1916 01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:33,160 corporations and but you know, at the same time, I think about 1917 01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,560 it and I'm like, Aaron Greenberg shared AI didn't know this 1918 01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:38,240 person. He Aaron Greenberg shared a 1919 01:41:38,280 --> 01:41:40,920 tweet as someone in the community, Xbox addict or 1920 01:41:40,920 --> 01:41:43,840 someone who was big in the community, really I. 1921 01:41:43,960 --> 01:41:45,200 Knew him. You knew him. 1922 01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:47,160 I knew him. Yeah, yeah. 1923 01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,040 He was a really nice guy. He passed away sadly. 1924 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,040 He was, he was an amazing guy. He was. 1925 01:41:52,320 --> 01:41:55,000 Really, really nice guy. Yeah. 1926 01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:57,160 And I don't know. So that was like the other 1927 01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,520 thing, that he was all parasocial. 1928 01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:02,480 Like, I'll, I'll say this, right, This is, this is one of 1929 01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:05,440 the things with like the, the parasocial kind of argument. 1930 01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:10,920 Like I want to enjoy things, you know, I want to be invested in 1931 01:42:10,920 --> 01:42:13,520 things. Like for me, I find it enjoyable 1932 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:15,080 to be like really invest in things. 1933 01:42:15,080 --> 01:42:19,120 And I wrote an article today about bitching about the white 1934 01:42:19,120 --> 01:42:22,360 Blizzard's been handling the Horde right in World of 1935 01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:24,480 Warcraft. And I was sitting, I was sitting 1936 01:42:24,480 --> 01:42:26,680 there, Ryan, thinking like, I'm a grown ass man. 1937 01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:29,960 This is like kind of lame that I care this much about a video 1938 01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:33,080 game faction. And I was like almost talking 1939 01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:34,960 myself out of writing it. And then I was like, you know 1940 01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:37,640 what? Actually, no, I care about this. 1941 01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:40,600 I'm not going to pretend that I don't care about this because 1942 01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:45,360 it's uncool on the Internet. So fuck it, let I'll be uncool 1943 01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,640 on the Internet. You know, the whole point of me 1944 01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:52,360 liking the whole that much was it was like a sort of Safeway 1945 01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:56,320 online for me to be a geek and geek out over something. 1946 01:42:56,560 --> 01:43:00,800 So, you know, whether it's Xbox or World of Warcraft or Horde or 1947 01:43:00,800 --> 01:43:04,080 sports teams or whatever it is. I think people just like being a 1948 01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,280 fan of things sometimes. And yeah, some people take it 1949 01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:08,960 way too fucking far. Whether it's like football 1950 01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:12,880 hooligans, whether it's like whatever it is, people take it 1951 01:43:12,880 --> 01:43:16,280 way too far. And you know, you know, the sort 1952 01:43:16,760 --> 01:43:19,080 of and you get to a point where it's you get stalker kind of 1953 01:43:19,080 --> 01:43:20,960 behaviour and and that kind of shit too. 1954 01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:26,920 But I think like if we just sort of like, I think it's fine and 1955 01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:32,480 dandy to be a fan of something, but even like it's better to be 1956 01:43:32,480 --> 01:43:35,200 just, I think it's a positive thing, You know, there's so much 1957 01:43:35,200 --> 01:43:39,000 like shitty stuff in the world. Just having like being able to 1958 01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:44,040 be a fan is I think something that should be, should be okay, 1959 01:43:44,080 --> 01:43:45,440 you know? Absolutely. 1960 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:47,600 I do agree with that. I do agree with you. 1961 01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:51,840 I, I, I take the piss out of it and some people really love it. 1962 01:43:51,920 --> 01:43:54,360 I saw Aaron Greenberg's tweet about this Xbox addict guy and 1963 01:43:54,360 --> 01:43:56,840 then I saw a tweet about his mum and like she, he really loved 1964 01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:58,480 Xbox. It really helped him out from a 1965 01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:00,680 tough place. He was a, he served in the army. 1966 01:44:00,680 --> 01:44:02,520 I think something happened. He was in a wheelchair and 1967 01:44:02,760 --> 01:44:04,880 obviously a lot of challenges. He was a father and stuff like 1968 01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:06,840 that. And Xbox did have a, because it 1969 01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:09,240 basically saved his spirit, saved his life because he was 1970 01:44:09,240 --> 01:44:10,760 part of a community. He was a big thing. 1971 01:44:10,760 --> 01:44:14,520 Xbox XX took place and they added, you know, we're going to 1972 01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:16,640 sit here judge like, oh, that's fucking lame, man. 1973 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,680 You're like a game corporation, but he was part of like a family 1974 01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,120 and stuff like a crew and that that in the South. 1975 01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:25,760 I understand that and I I, you know, I, I come on Dick head 1976 01:44:26,680 --> 01:44:29,440 debatable, but you know, at the same time I was just like. 1977 01:44:29,480 --> 01:44:31,680 Right. It's the the issue is like blind 1978 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:35,280 fanboyism, you know, like if it, if you're like the good fans are 1979 01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:38,320 people who criticise and they're they're criticised because 1980 01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:42,680 they're passionate about it. But like, like, like me and Ron 1981 01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,960 get stick for being negative sometimes. 1982 01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:48,240 And some people just like they hate it when you say anything 1983 01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:51,200 negative and they want you to be a cheerleader and they want you 1984 01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:56,480 to sort of never sort of like think critically about things 1985 01:44:56,480 --> 01:45:00,440 and or just, you know, and I'll admit that like sometimes like I 1986 01:45:00,440 --> 01:45:02,600 get to, I go too far in the other direction. 1987 01:45:02,600 --> 01:45:06,840 It's like I'm I just like maybe just feel the negative in 1988 01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:09,360 general and then end up projecting that negativity onto 1989 01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,920 all the things. So like it can go both ways. 1990 01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:15,960 But I think like the important thing is just to not be a blind 1991 01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:22,240 fanboy, but also not be like just the in the other direction 1992 01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,600 where it's just like you just, I can't see anything good about 1993 01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:27,320 it. Like there's some people who 1994 01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:31,600 feel felt so burned by Xbox not being their sports team anymore. 1995 01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,080 And oh, actually it is a corporation that needs to make 1996 01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:37,480 money. But to this day, they've spent 1997 01:45:37,480 --> 01:45:40,200 years and years and years hating Xbox and everything it 1998 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,240 represents. And basically, that's night. 1999 01:45:42,520 --> 01:45:44,800 PlayStation Podcast, but yeah, you just described. 2000 01:45:44,800 --> 01:45:48,560 Yeah, I mean, it is the truth be told, a lot of the big 2001 01:45:48,560 --> 01:45:52,480 PlayStation podcasts we see like on Twitter, they used to be Xbox 2002 01:45:52,480 --> 01:45:56,040 oriented, especially like the American podcast where where 2003 01:45:56,040 --> 01:45:59,920 like Xbox was sort of the bigger, bigger platform for a 2004 01:45:59,920 --> 01:46:04,520 while with a certain age group, you know, and and they all felt 2005 01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,360 really burned. And now they've gone like toxic 2006 01:46:06,360 --> 01:46:08,960 in the other direction. And it's it's just kind of sad 2007 01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:10,720 really. But that's like. 2008 01:46:11,680 --> 01:46:13,720 Harris says be proud of these the things you enjoy. 2009 01:46:13,720 --> 01:46:16,080 The Internet is for the basement dwelling losers who do nothing 2010 01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:17,880 but troll to give themselves some happiness. 2011 01:46:18,040 --> 01:46:20,800 That's so true as well. You're right then. 2012 01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:22,440 And then I think there's a healthy balance there. 2013 01:46:22,440 --> 01:46:26,560 I think when adults go in out of their way to become a martyr for 2014 01:46:26,560 --> 01:46:30,560 the corporation, that's crazy. I was like with my source 2015 01:46:30,560 --> 01:46:34,240 videos, I was massively taking the piss out PlayStation guys, 2016 01:46:34,440 --> 01:46:37,160 but I always had this element of holding Xbox's feet to the fire 2017 01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,240 as well. And every time I did that, those 2018 01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,000 beats pushback from these guys who were religious, zealous from 2019 01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,240 the Xbox side. So to the point where you know, 2020 01:46:44,240 --> 01:46:48,280 that whole fiasco where I had like 20/20/22 or whatever where 2021 01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:51,760 I was rinsing them, I had a whole like, oh, you're the new 2022 01:46:51,760 --> 01:46:54,280 crap gamer. I'm not realising that my sense 2023 01:46:54,280 --> 01:46:57,400 of humour, my, you know, the satire you've got lost it. 2024 01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:59,320 You felt the character that I played. 2025 01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,880 I think this is an American problem as well, that the the 2026 01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:04,280 satire of it or the sarcasm was lost. 2027 01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,400 But then I saw grown adults really actually feed into it 2028 01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:13,680 like they really like. I've seen it from very close ex 2029 01:47:13,680 --> 01:47:17,600 friend groups how it really manifests itself in a very 2030 01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:21,280 selfish way weird way. And I was like your critical 2031 01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:23,280 analysis skills are completely down. 2032 01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,960 You're a grown adult simping for a corporation and you genuinely 2033 01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:30,120 feel like this PlayStation camp is full of characters like that. 2034 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:34,560 Through resentment are are are are doing embodying what Paris 2035 01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:37,040 said about being just sad basement dwelling trolls. 2036 01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:40,080 At the same time, the Xbox camp also has a lot of personalities 2037 01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:42,680 now, just like, right? Well, you were just grifting at 2038 01:47:42,680 --> 01:47:45,480 this point. All you care about is the brand. 2039 01:47:45,480 --> 01:47:47,280 You will just simp whatever it takes. 2040 01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:50,840 Some people do it for fun. Other people just are what they 2041 01:47:50,840 --> 01:47:53,680 are. So Asha Sharma has a very, very 2042 01:47:53,680 --> 01:47:56,240 tricky kind of thing to kind of balance out because Phil 2043 01:47:56,240 --> 01:47:59,560 Spencer, bless his heart, one of the positive things we talked 2044 01:47:59,560 --> 01:48:02,840 about was his ability to talk to everyone and being transparent 2045 01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,680 as Microsoft is one of the positive things that we said. 2046 01:48:04,680 --> 01:48:07,920 It was done until he had to recede away as a double edged 2047 01:48:07,920 --> 01:48:09,520 sword. And I think Asha Sharma's going 2048 01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:13,360 to find out very quickly how the the other end of that sword can 2049 01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:17,320 get really sharp and start making you bleed badly to the 2050 01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,600 point where you start to recede away from the public eye. 2051 01:48:19,920 --> 01:48:23,720 Right now she's on a high, but you know, that's her challenge. 2052 01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:26,480 That's her tough luck. I just find some of that really 2053 01:48:26,480 --> 01:48:27,920 weird. But at the same time, I'm 2054 01:48:27,920 --> 01:48:30,560 reminded of the fact that it's nice to be part of something. 2055 01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,480 I just won't be like that. But I'm not going to rinse 2056 01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:39,240 people too much. But there is a there is an 2057 01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,600 element of I just want to fucking gun some some of these 2058 01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:43,440 some weird fuckers. But here's what it is. 2059 01:48:43,560 --> 01:48:47,800 That's a good conversation on parasocial bastards, but it is 2060 01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,840 what it is another. It is what it is. 2061 01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:54,400 Before I go in to talk about that, we have to talk about and 2062 01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,560 it's we're at the freaking 2 hour mod. 2063 01:48:56,560 --> 01:49:00,600 I haven't even talked about fucking Forza Horizon, which is 2064 01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:04,960 the thumbnail of this game. A lot of people managed to get 2065 01:49:05,560 --> 01:49:09,480 to play the game. They, they've had hands on with 2066 01:49:09,480 --> 01:49:12,960 it early previously and very early on. 2067 01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:17,760 They've they, they've had a chance to what's it called? 2068 01:49:19,000 --> 01:49:21,120 Get hands on loads of people, all the influences. 2069 01:49:21,320 --> 01:49:23,120 Have you, have you got access to it? 2070 01:49:23,400 --> 01:49:26,240 Have you played it? I was offered, but like, I just 2071 01:49:26,240 --> 01:49:29,320 didn't have time. So my colleague Richard Devine, 2072 01:49:29,320 --> 01:49:31,560 who actually has a racing licence in real life, or he did 2073 01:49:31,560 --> 01:49:32,960 that when he was younger, All right. 2074 01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,800 He, he played it and he, he just, he just loves it, thinks 2075 01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:40,560 it's fantastic, you know? Yeah, I watched, I watched the 2076 01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,160 video. He made a video for it, like on 2077 01:49:43,160 --> 01:49:46,480 Windows Central's gaming channel, and it just looks 2078 01:49:46,480 --> 01:49:48,320 amazing. You know, whenever, when I'm 2079 01:49:48,320 --> 01:49:51,000 not, I'm not into racing games much, but like the Forza Horizon 2080 01:49:51,000 --> 01:49:55,000 games, like, they're always like, really impressive to look 2081 01:49:55,000 --> 01:50:01,240 at from a technical perspective. And I'm kind of like, I'm kind 2082 01:50:01,240 --> 01:50:03,400 of hyped on Japan right now because I've just been to 2083 01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,720 Okinawa, Right? Yeah. 2084 01:50:08,360 --> 01:50:11,480 I'm not a huge vacationing kind of guy like I've been to. 2085 01:50:12,720 --> 01:50:15,320 I go to places because oftentimes like my girlfriend 2086 01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,160 likes to go travelling and stuff. 2087 01:50:17,720 --> 01:50:21,960 And you know, I'm sort of begrudgingly, like obviously I 2088 01:50:21,960 --> 01:50:25,000 like spending time with it, but my, my idea of a good time is 2089 01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:28,600 like, you know, stay at home, watch the telly cup of tea. 2090 01:50:29,120 --> 01:50:33,880 You know, that's the idea. That's my idea of vacation. 2091 01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:39,880 But like, OK, now is like absolutely fantastic, like the 2092 01:50:40,360 --> 01:50:45,040 Japanese society and everyone because I'm a fat bearded 2093 01:50:45,080 --> 01:50:48,280 Westerner, right? And I was thinking like, man, 2094 01:50:48,280 --> 01:50:50,600 they're going to stare at me like I'm a freak and stuff like 2095 01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:52,320 that. And it's just like, no, they 2096 01:50:52,320 --> 01:50:53,800 didn't. Like everyone was just like 2097 01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:58,360 minding our own business and like, you know, I think super 2098 01:50:58,360 --> 01:51:01,560 nice and super polite and, you know, friendly and stuff. 2099 01:51:02,080 --> 01:51:06,360 Taxi drivers always fantastic. You know, it's I just loved it. 2100 01:51:06,360 --> 01:51:11,560 So yeah, I'm pretty high in Japan right now and you know, 2101 01:51:12,480 --> 01:51:15,960 what's a bit of anime and my youth and a bit of youth and 2102 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:20,080 embarrassing, you know, weeaboo kind of phase. 2103 01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:26,600 So one of the sort of like one of the things that I think is 2104 01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:29,960 really interesting is like one of the fan fest locations is in 2105 01:51:29,960 --> 01:51:31,320 Japan. Oh yeah. 2106 01:51:31,320 --> 01:51:34,440 And it does. It does feel like Microsoft, but 2107 01:51:34,440 --> 01:51:38,080 again, he's like, we're not giving up on cracking that 2108 01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:40,880 market because obviously Xbox just doesn't exist there. 2109 01:51:41,320 --> 01:51:43,320 Like it just doesn't exist. They have to. 2110 01:51:43,480 --> 01:51:45,560 They have to persevere that market. 2111 01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:50,000 I mean, it'll, it'll exist like on PlayStation because Forza is 2112 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:54,040 obviously going to be absolutely massive on PlayStation like it 2113 01:51:54,040 --> 01:51:56,320 already is. I think like, even if they did 2114 01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:59,680 go, even if they did start putting exclusives on Xbox, I 2115 01:51:59,680 --> 01:52:01,800 think Forza's probably 1 franchise that you probably 2116 01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:05,680 don't make exclusive to Xbox. I think it's just, it's just too 2117 01:52:05,680 --> 01:52:10,200 big for one platform. But, but I digress. 2118 01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:11,960 Yeah, the, the game looks fantastic. 2119 01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:15,120 I think it's going to be obviously very popular in Japan, 2120 01:52:16,120 --> 01:52:22,360 but also like globally. And just I suppose it's a big 2121 01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,640 sign of confidence that they're willing to let people download 2122 01:52:25,640 --> 01:52:27,640 the build and give it a try. Sold early. 2123 01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:32,040 Yeah, no, honestly. Halo, Halo Infinite was like 2124 01:52:32,040 --> 01:52:34,360 that as well. Like letting the the I think the 2125 01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:35,920 review period for that was like a month. 2126 01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:39,000 It's the biggest review period I've ever had, I think. 2127 01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:42,920 Yeah, I think, I think they, if there's only one title that you 2128 01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:44,360 say they'd be very confident on, it's this. 2129 01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:45,920 I don't see them messing this up at all. 2130 01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:49,040 In fact, actually this is the first time on stream I've seen 2131 01:52:49,040 --> 01:52:51,520 the I tried to avoid it because I wanted to experience this 2132 01:52:51,520 --> 01:52:54,520 first initial race myself, because it's it's it's a rite of 2133 01:52:54,520 --> 01:52:57,880 passage. But for the sake of the show, 2134 01:52:57,880 --> 01:52:59,840 I've played it. I've complained about how the 2135 01:52:59,840 --> 01:53:02,920 visuals, I haven't been like they haven't astounded me. 2136 01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:05,320 But at the same time I'm watching this, I'm like, OK, it 2137 01:53:05,320 --> 01:53:09,520 looks fucking sick. Maybe not a generational jump 2138 01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:13,160 because I was expecting because the last game was cross Gen, but 2139 01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,280 at the same time, this still looks amazing. 2140 01:53:15,280 --> 01:53:18,120 It still looks very impressive. I'm looking at it now and I'm 2141 01:53:18,120 --> 01:53:21,120 like OK, what is this going to look like on my ray tracing 2142 01:53:21,120 --> 01:53:23,760 maxed out graphics? This is going to look fucking 2143 01:53:23,760 --> 01:53:26,880 crazy. So it does look very good. 2144 01:53:26,880 --> 01:53:30,000 I was a bit premature in writing off the visuals from based on 2145 01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:33,280 the gameplay I saw. I wanted to avoid it. 2146 01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:36,040 But this looks amazing. And you're right about the 2147 01:53:36,040 --> 01:53:40,480 importance of spectacle in in in Forza games. 2148 01:53:40,480 --> 01:53:41,800 What the fuck Have I just done this? 2149 01:53:41,800 --> 01:53:47,000 Sorry and Forza Motorsport was missing that, despite it being, 2150 01:53:47,000 --> 01:53:49,160 you know, have like they, they tried really hard with the 2151 01:53:49,160 --> 01:53:51,320 visuals and stuff like that. It was missing the spectacle 2152 01:53:51,560 --> 01:53:54,000 that old Forza, even the Motorsport games had. 2153 01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:59,080 Oh shit, are you serious? They put you in an AE86-O? 2154 01:53:59,080 --> 01:54:01,480 No, no, I thought they would, but the fact that they even 2155 01:54:01,480 --> 01:54:04,440 featured that on the this is the thing with this game. 2156 01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:07,480 This game is going to capture Japanese car culture, which is 2157 01:54:07,480 --> 01:54:11,080 massive and it's going to go viral for so many Japanese 2158 01:54:11,080 --> 01:54:13,960 people going to be sharing it. You can see the Wangan Midnight. 2159 01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:16,800 I've seen clips of people like racing on the, you know, Shibu 2160 01:54:16,800 --> 01:54:21,080 Hwy, whatever the, the, the motorways like if you watch the 2161 01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:23,360 Wangan midnight, I've talked about it before, you've got 2162 01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:26,480 these races on the hills like Mount Akina from Initial D. 2163 01:54:26,480 --> 01:54:27,840 So you're going to have drift racing. 2164 01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:31,960 Car culture in Japan is so big and this is going to capture the 2165 01:54:31,960 --> 01:54:35,520 shit out of it. So I'm very excited about it. 2166 01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,040 I've been watching clips people are sharing about the sound 2167 01:54:38,040 --> 01:54:43,680 design of this game, how when someone comparing a stock, you 2168 01:54:43,680 --> 01:54:47,200 know, Mark 4 Supra to a twin turbo Mark 4 Supra and the 2169 01:54:47,200 --> 01:54:48,960 Samsung's amazing, making me think what? 2170 01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:53,360 Well, why a single turbo Supra will sound fucking crazy in that 2171 01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:55,440 game as well. They've grown really hard on the 2172 01:54:55,440 --> 01:54:57,600 sound design. That's been it's beautiful like 2173 01:54:57,600 --> 01:54:59,800 visually in terms of its art style, because you've got the 2174 01:55:00,040 --> 01:55:02,160 blossoms there, you know, cherry blossom trees. 2175 01:55:02,160 --> 01:55:04,480 It's just like it looks really aesthetically pleasing. 2176 01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:10,120 It's such a good game world to be in any way and it's, it's and 2177 01:55:10,120 --> 01:55:12,520 it's in Japan. So it's, it's like the, it's the 2178 01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:16,160 ultimate location for Forza. So it's not one they can afford 2179 01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:20,080 to even mess up. I did want some big changes from 2180 01:55:20,080 --> 01:55:22,640 the template. Sometimes I, I, I see the 2181 01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:25,120 argument and I do agree to a certain degree that it's always 2182 01:55:25,120 --> 01:55:28,560 a Biome change With Forza, you just slap on the new environment 2183 01:55:28,560 --> 01:55:31,000 and that's it. And then it's, you know, that's 2184 01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,120 it. But at the same time, with 2185 01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:38,440 Japan, there's so much avenues to play with that I just don't 2186 01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,440 see how you cannot not be interested in it. 2187 01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:45,520 My big concerns are some of the the cheesy story festival stuff, 2188 01:55:45,520 --> 01:55:47,760 like oh hey, and all the dialogue and shit. 2189 01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:52,200 I don't like that. And I'm like, hey guys, oh wow, 2190 01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:55,440 you're doing really well. You crack it up and this is kind 2191 01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:57,920 of like rags to riches story, which is going back, which is 2192 01:55:57,920 --> 01:55:59,840 good. I like that element of it. 2193 01:56:00,040 --> 01:56:02,160 I was a little bit more seriousness would be good, but 2194 01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:04,520 even in touch with the festival vibes. 2195 01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:09,360 But when I heard the starting music that they used for the 2196 01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:13,920 title screen of this game, I was like, yo, because for the last 2197 01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:17,640 two games, I was not impressed with the title screen music. 2198 01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:19,800 And you might think, well, that's a fucking weird thing to 2199 01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:22,520 say. But when they used lane 8 like 2200 01:56:22,520 --> 01:56:26,720 intro music for this game, I was like, yo, what are the the 2201 01:56:26,720 --> 01:56:29,320 tweets that was that's this looks fucking amazing, man. 2202 01:56:29,320 --> 01:56:31,080 Look at it. What the fuck am I was like 2203 01:56:31,080 --> 01:56:32,960 complaining about? Holy shit. 2204 01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:35,400 Look at the mountains and the clouds there and all that detail 2205 01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:36,600 there. Imagine what this is going to 2206 01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:41,280 look on my freaking 5090. I knew. 2207 01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:45,720 I knew that was coming. I'm such a dog, just speak 2208 01:56:45,920 --> 01:56:47,960 brick. But come on man, it's going to 2209 01:56:47,960 --> 01:56:50,160 be amazing. Look at that, the mountain at 2210 01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,240 the back, it looks fucking beautiful. 2211 01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:54,520 I was wrong. I thought this game had pretty 2212 01:56:54,520 --> 01:56:57,920 pared down visuals but actually I haven't seen it like this. 2213 01:56:57,920 --> 01:57:00,600 I was trying to avoid it, but oh, that looks sick. 2214 01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:02,920 The soundtrack has to be on point. 2215 01:57:02,920 --> 01:57:04,720 You've done really well with the title screen. 2216 01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,520 It looks amazing. Look at the big The Jets coming 2217 01:57:07,520 --> 01:57:09,720 up over here. It's just this is this is Forza 2218 01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:11,560 Horizon. This is going to get people, 2219 01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:13,560 even PlayStation guys. You've got to get the game. 2220 01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:16,320 But a little bit later, you're going to be salivating at the 2221 01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,200 prospect of playing this game because it's Forza Horizon, 2222 01:57:19,400 --> 01:57:25,480 which will arguably be which it is set to be the best racer of 2223 01:57:25,480 --> 01:57:28,880 this generation because the last one is Forza Horizon 5, the 2224 01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:32,200 highest rated racer. Forza Horizon 6, though, is a 2225 01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,960 heading to in a very good direction and it's probably 2226 01:57:36,280 --> 01:57:40,320 maybe perhaps where the franchise actually peaks as 2227 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:45,320 well. So it remains to be seen turn, 2228 01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:48,680 you know, Playground games. They are on a massive win streak 2229 01:57:48,680 --> 01:57:50,920 here. And if they deliver and this is 2230 01:57:50,920 --> 01:57:53,360 next month, it's going to be big. 2231 01:57:53,560 --> 01:57:58,560 It'll be a massive tetanus shot to Xbox generally across the 2232 01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:03,480 board, setting them up for the masses of hype that will be 2233 01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:05,400 leading up to the summer game showcase. 2234 01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:10,160 So I think this could be good. Previews from reviewers have 2235 01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:14,680 been extremely positive. I've seen clips even from one 2236 01:58:14,680 --> 01:58:17,840 chap from Games Radar, his name always as the car Reviews as a 2237 01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:20,520 Sony bias. He was like, yo, this is going 2238 01:58:20,520 --> 01:58:23,240 to be big IG and all the big boys have said that this is 2239 01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:27,240 looking to be a dank schleem and I'm sure they're going to go 2240 01:58:27,240 --> 01:58:28,920 hard on it. It's going. 2241 01:58:29,160 --> 01:58:31,160 To be. Stuck in your head, now you. 2242 01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,960 Know. What schleems are Forza Rise at 2243 01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:37,280 6:00? That's going to be a big one, 2244 01:58:38,840 --> 01:58:39,920 yeah. I don't know what else we could 2245 01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:41,880 say about that, but it's going to be wicked. 2246 01:58:42,440 --> 01:58:44,400 Forza Horizon 5 stomped Sonny's charts. 2247 01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:47,880 Yes, it did, for good reason, even after multiple years later 2248 01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:49,400 being released, because that's Forza. 2249 01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:52,520 And that gave a taste to PlayStation guys about the power 2250 01:58:52,520 --> 01:58:55,240 of Forza when it comes to the Japan release. 2251 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,240 They're gonna go crazy. They're gonna be like, yo, why 2252 01:58:58,240 --> 01:59:00,400 can't we play this game day one with the fucks going on? 2253 01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:03,000 And this is where this is a good opportunity for, you know, Xbox 2254 01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:06,200 to try and explore, even if it's in a limited fashion. 2255 01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:09,600 Timed exclusivity as well for stuff games like Gears of War. 2256 01:59:09,600 --> 01:59:12,840 That's how you build a conversation about about your 2257 01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:14,640 brand. And if you don't do that, it's 2258 01:59:14,640 --> 01:59:17,000 over. I just want to say I started a 2259 01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:18,520 gym in Paris. Are you proud of me? 2260 01:59:18,680 --> 01:59:20,560 I'm starting to get a little bit of shape in. 2261 01:59:20,560 --> 01:59:23,200 My creatine is coming and I'm just fucking looking. 2262 01:59:23,680 --> 01:59:25,000 I'm going to get even bigger, bro. 2263 01:59:25,000 --> 01:59:26,680 Fuck it, Paris. You want to fight? 2264 01:59:26,680 --> 01:59:28,080 Let's do it. Yeah. 2265 01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:32,240 Yeah. So positive, positive stuff. 2266 01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:35,840 You got replace coming out in a couple of weeks, which I'm very 2267 01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:38,320 excited about. That's a day one for me. 2268 01:59:38,800 --> 01:59:40,440 I liked the demo. That was really good. 2269 01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:44,720 It was just combat was good. That's in. 2270 01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:47,480 Where's the replace? I say 2 weeks, isn't it? 2271 01:59:47,480 --> 01:59:51,440 One week replaced release date? Let's see, the replace is coming 2272 01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:54,320 out 14th of April. Holy shit, three days. 2273 01:59:55,440 --> 01:59:56,640 Oh my God, time's going so quick. 2274 01:59:57,960 --> 01:59:59,560 Are you doing that symbol on purpose? 2275 01:59:59,560 --> 02:00:01,960 Episode 13, that little Chinese thing, Can you see that in the 2276 02:00:01,960 --> 02:00:03,920 chat or is it just me because I'm going mental? 2277 02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:08,840 It's like a good mental hit. But yeah, replace coming out in 2278 02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:10,240 three days. Can't wait for that. 2279 02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:12,680 Then you're going to have freaking Soros. 2280 02:00:12,680 --> 02:00:16,560 For me is end of April, the April 30th is where Soros was 2281 02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:17,840 coming out. I think that's going to be 2282 02:00:17,840 --> 02:00:20,840 amazing. But next week, Jess, we're going 2283 02:00:20,840 --> 02:00:23,400 to get the PlayStation State of Play. 2284 02:00:23,480 --> 02:00:26,040 What do you think they will show at the State of Play? 2285 02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,800 No, I do. I don't follow PlayStation 2286 02:00:29,800 --> 02:00:32,440 stuff. I just, I just, I don't have 2287 02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:34,640 time for. It Oh my God, you're. 2288 02:00:34,680 --> 02:00:37,280 Such a hater. You're such a hater. 2289 02:00:37,280 --> 02:00:40,040 No, I just, I just, I just, I just don't. 2290 02:00:40,040 --> 02:00:42,800 I don't have a PlayStation. I don't care about PlayStation. 2291 02:00:42,800 --> 02:00:44,080 You don't. Care at all? 2292 02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:46,680 You don't care about play? No, why? 2293 02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:50,720 I mean games. Don't I can't even Yeah like 2294 02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:55,080 does that, but also like even less now like their games ain't 2295 02:00:55,080 --> 02:00:59,280 coming to PC like like there's death stranding, which I suppose 2296 02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:01,960 will I think death string too already did come to peace 2297 02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:07,320 actually didn't it yes I like yeah and I've got ghosts to 2298 02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:11,840 Sushima runs ground my Xbox alloy yeah you know it's but 2299 02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:13,840 it's like they ain't like. It's kind of. 2300 02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:17,040 One of them I won't. I don't want to buy a console 2301 02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:20,520 just for a few games. I bought my penis pro for this 2302 02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:23,960 game. Yeah, I mean, maybe when I get 2303 02:01:23,960 --> 02:01:28,480 my own place, but like, I mean, I just physically don't have 2304 02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:30,800 space for a PlayStation right now. 2305 02:01:31,200 --> 02:01:32,560 Well, you mentioned it also like. 2306 02:01:33,240 --> 02:01:34,520 It's quite big. There I mean condom. 2307 02:01:34,760 --> 02:01:38,120 Yeah, bro, this game looks amazing to me. 2308 02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:40,960 I can't wait to play this. I bought my I. 2309 02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:44,000 Look, my PlayStation 5 Pro is going to gather dust. 2310 02:01:44,120 --> 02:01:48,600 I know for a fact it's going to gather dust, but I'm in a 2311 02:01:48,600 --> 02:01:52,200 fortunate position where I can buy a game for one title or 2312 02:01:52,200 --> 02:01:57,120 maybe 2 and this game is oh they got fucking the old early acts 2313 02:01:57,120 --> 02:02:00,880 of shit as well for this game. That's fucking lame but OK. 2314 02:02:02,480 --> 02:02:04,360 Takes away from the spirit of what house mug do. 2315 02:02:04,360 --> 02:02:08,600 But anyway, it is what it is. You know the state of place 2316 02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:10,520 coming out next week. We haven't even seen Wolverine 2317 02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:14,840 gameplay yet, so I'm expecting to see some Wolverine Wolverine 2318 02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:18,040 gameplay. We have to see it. 2319 02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:20,720 It's coming out this year, so and we've got release date, 2320 02:02:20,720 --> 02:02:23,120 don't we? Do we ever really stay for 2321 02:02:23,120 --> 02:02:27,160 Wolverine? No idea, no idea. 2322 02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:31,000 I think, yeah. I also don't like Marvel. 2323 02:02:31,600 --> 02:02:33,880 I just I can't stand Marvel shit either but. 2324 02:02:34,440 --> 02:02:36,120 I'm not a massive, massive Marvel. 2325 02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:38,960 Oh, I say that to Syndicate. I like X-Men based on Hickman's 2326 02:02:38,960 --> 02:02:41,160 books. Marvel stuff on TV has been 2327 02:02:41,160 --> 02:02:45,720 absolutely compare Doomsday Dune versus fucking Avengers. 2328 02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:47,480 You think I'm going to watch Avengers over Dune? 2329 02:02:47,480 --> 02:02:49,600 If you're someone who's my friend was saying this. 2330 02:02:49,600 --> 02:02:53,200 If you watch Avengers, you pick Avengers over Dune. 2331 02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:56,480 You deserve to be lobotomized you piece of shit. 2332 02:02:56,720 --> 02:03:00,120 There's no way you should be watching Dune. 3 is going to be 2333 02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:02,280 the source. It's a real cinema. 2334 02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:05,760 This is why Blade Runner 2049 didn't hit Beavers a commercial 2335 02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:07,600 flop. Because fuckers like you watch 2336 02:03:07,720 --> 02:03:12,600 freaking Marvel shit. Superheroes La La La La La La. 2337 02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,280 Although I love X-Men so I'm going to count about what I've 2338 02:03:15,280 --> 02:03:17,040 just said. I'm actually excited about 2339 02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:21,200 Wolverine and I think the State of Play is coming out next week. 2340 02:03:21,640 --> 02:03:23,720 Wolverine gameplay should feature, absolutely. 2341 02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:27,800 I'm surprised that it's a mission last one and a Wolverine 2342 02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:30,960 showcase will go a long way. But I know for a fact Soros is 2343 02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:32,400 coming as well. So that will feature quite 2344 02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:33,960 heavily. I don't know how much more 2345 02:03:33,960 --> 02:03:36,360 gameplay of Soros you can show. And people like, Oh yeah, I 2346 02:03:36,360 --> 02:03:39,480 think we've kind of rinsed it. Soros is like reternal is like a 2347 02:03:39,480 --> 02:03:40,960 game. You've shown enough. 2348 02:03:40,960 --> 02:03:43,120 It looks impressive. It's not that you can get 2349 02:03:43,120 --> 02:03:45,520 diminishing returns in the Wow factor of showing more gameplay. 2350 02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:46,960 At this point people just want to play it. 2351 02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:48,440 It's one of those games you have to play. 2352 02:03:48,640 --> 02:03:51,240 The gameplay is key. Whereas Wolverine, I would argue 2353 02:03:51,240 --> 02:03:53,920 is more style over substance in terms of gameplay. 2354 02:03:53,920 --> 02:03:56,560 Now you might cry about what I've just said, but what that 2355 02:03:56,560 --> 02:03:59,000 means is the cinematics. Look at it. 2356 02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:00,800 They didn't even show you how to do gameplay. 2357 02:04:00,800 --> 02:04:03,680 But people, it's called a gameplay trailer and there's not 2358 02:04:03,680 --> 02:04:06,880 much gameplay in here. If you go back, you'll see, OK, 2359 02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:09,480 some canned animations and you'll see the same animation 2360 02:04:09,480 --> 02:04:11,680 over a few times, maybe a couple of swipes. 2361 02:04:11,840 --> 02:04:15,240 But that doesn't mean you know, you know, I wanna see meaningful 2362 02:04:15,240 --> 02:04:16,560 gameplay. How does traversal work? 2363 02:04:16,720 --> 02:04:19,800 Is an open world fucking game where you just replace Spiderman 2364 02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:21,280 with fucking Wolverine? I don't wanna see that. 2365 02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:22,960 I wanna see a more linear game. I wanna see what. 2366 02:04:22,960 --> 02:04:25,800 Actually come Can you cook people's arms and legs off? 2367 02:04:26,240 --> 02:04:28,680 You can literally, as you said that literally cutting people's 2368 02:04:28,680 --> 02:04:30,400 arms and legs off the way they go. 2369 02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:32,280 Now. Now I'm a bit more interested. 2370 02:04:32,280 --> 02:04:34,640 You're like your violent bro. Look at the fucking game they 2371 02:04:34,640 --> 02:04:36,240 cut. All he's doing is cutting 2372 02:04:36,240 --> 02:04:38,560 people's arms and legs off. It looks amazing. 2373 02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:42,040 Their face is being shot. Extremely violent, extremely 2374 02:04:42,040 --> 02:04:43,160 violent. You don't even see that. 2375 02:04:43,160 --> 02:04:45,280 And look at that. There's just blood everywhere. 2376 02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:49,040 And this is what I wanted to see, and this is what Wolverine 2377 02:04:49,040 --> 02:04:51,520 always needed to be to match the comic books. 2378 02:04:51,520 --> 02:04:52,920 It's just like all that violence. 2379 02:04:52,920 --> 02:04:54,800 It looks beautiful. I want to see more gameplay. 2380 02:04:55,280 --> 02:04:58,400 It's a good time to show it as well this week before Xbox 2381 02:04:58,400 --> 02:04:59,880 starts having its big heavy releases. 2382 02:04:59,880 --> 02:05:02,680 You don't want it to just your PlayStation to kind of like die 2383 02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:05,640 in obscurity in terms of its public facing stuff. 2384 02:05:05,640 --> 02:05:09,640 Or you know, this is this is an uncharacteristically strong year 2385 02:05:09,640 --> 02:05:11,800 for the PlayStation five generation, which they're 2386 02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:14,720 basically coasted in my opinion, for the vast majority of this 2387 02:05:14,720 --> 02:05:16,600 Gen. So this is a big, strong year 2388 02:05:16,600 --> 02:05:18,920 because you've got sorrows here, which is maybe no more nation. 2389 02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,960 I don't think it will be a big seller, but Wolverine will be 2390 02:05:22,200 --> 02:05:25,280 and it's a Marvel IP. You need to lead with it and 2391 02:05:25,280 --> 02:05:27,960 show us more schleems. So we'll see the schleems of 2392 02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:29,760 PlayStation State of Play and see what they're going to show 2393 02:05:29,760 --> 02:05:32,160 there. Marvel to Colneems, you'll love 2394 02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:33,480 the schleems. I don't expect them to show 2395 02:05:33,480 --> 02:05:36,280 anything else, but if they want to surprise with intergalactic, 2396 02:05:36,840 --> 02:05:40,120 then yeah, fine. We can show us that and we can 2397 02:05:40,120 --> 02:05:43,280 make some memes with that. So that is State of Play. 2398 02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:45,240 Expecting you next week should be good. 2399 02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:49,760 The last day of play was decent. I did see a lot of people A+ and 2400 02:05:49,760 --> 02:05:52,040 I'm like, all right, the standards have dropped so badly 2401 02:05:52,040 --> 02:05:55,840 for PlayStation Now that any kind of decent basic show is 2402 02:05:55,840 --> 02:05:59,080 seen as a plus plus. But that's the new PlayStation, 2403 02:05:59,080 --> 02:06:02,800 new age PlayStation. Speaking of which, I need to 2404 02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:07,440 talk about Marathon, another game that came out this year 2405 02:06:07,680 --> 02:06:10,520 that I really love, which makes this year a very good year for 2406 02:06:10,520 --> 02:06:12,800 PlayStation for me. I love marathon. 2407 02:06:13,160 --> 02:06:15,640 I think it's a great game. I haven't even gone back to Arc 2408 02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:18,560 Raiders yet because I love the PvP hype for it. 2409 02:06:19,960 --> 02:06:22,280 Telma Henderson has spent like 150 hours on it. 2410 02:06:22,280 --> 02:06:24,440 He's like level 90 or something. He's quite, really a lot of. 2411 02:06:24,440 --> 02:06:28,160 Rans, yeah, Rans. Rans got like a billion hours in 2412 02:06:28,160 --> 02:06:32,160 it as well. And it's like, yeah, no 2413 02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:36,560 marathon, but Rand loves marathon. 2414 02:06:36,640 --> 02:06:39,000 And it's kind of funny because like a lot, a lot of the 2415 02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:42,720 PlayStation guys, Xbox guys that I speak to, they all really love 2416 02:06:42,720 --> 02:06:45,320 marathon. Like when I, when I look on 2417 02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:49,640 Twitter and you know, the algorithm shows me random stuff, 2418 02:06:49,960 --> 02:06:52,640 it feels like a lot of people are celebrating the fact that 2419 02:06:52,640 --> 02:06:55,480 like it's Steam numbers are going down and people are like, 2420 02:06:55,480 --> 02:06:58,920 oh, the, the game costs 200 million and it's, it's, it's a 2421 02:06:58,920 --> 02:07:00,760 flop, you know, and all this kind of stuff. 2422 02:07:01,320 --> 02:07:05,760 And it's just like, like it does feel like this game is like, I 2423 02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:07,840 haven't played it myself, so I don't know. 2424 02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:12,240 But it does feel like, like based on everyone I know that I 2425 02:07:12,240 --> 02:07:15,960 trust saying it's good, it feels like the game is over hated. 2426 02:07:16,640 --> 02:07:18,120 Do you get a sense that it's over hated? 2427 02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:20,120 Absolutely it is. Absolutely it is. 2428 02:07:20,120 --> 02:07:24,920 It's a combination of console war stuff, Absolutely. 2429 02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:28,280 Is this the PlayStation tax? This is the PlayStation Tax. 2430 02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:32,120 This is the PlayStation Tax is a it's also a bungee tax. 2431 02:07:32,160 --> 02:07:34,840 It's a bungee tax. Bungee tax is a massive bungee. 2432 02:07:34,840 --> 02:07:36,800 Tax. I think it's a Destiny tax 2433 02:07:36,920 --> 02:07:37,920 actually. Absolutely. 2434 02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:41,800 I think a lot of people are like, we want, I've seen this in 2435 02:07:41,800 --> 02:07:44,480 other studios before where studios have multiple projects 2436 02:07:44,480 --> 02:07:47,360 and they're kind of like, why aren't you focusing on the 2437 02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:50,640 product, The product or the project we want you to focus on? 2438 02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:53,080 Why are you investing in this instead of Destiny? 2439 02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:55,320 Yeah. And it does feel like there's an 2440 02:07:55,320 --> 02:07:58,040 element of that. There's an absolutely huge 2441 02:07:58,040 --> 02:08:00,040 element of people what are crying about this because they 2442 02:08:00,040 --> 02:08:03,800 want a Destiny and wanting this to fail as a oh, we told you so. 2443 02:08:04,120 --> 02:08:07,280 But what Bungie have managed to do and deliver an excellent 2444 02:08:07,520 --> 02:08:11,400 extraction shooter with their own flavour, and it has a few 2445 02:08:11,400 --> 02:08:13,080 things going out for it. I'm actually working on a video 2446 02:08:13,080 --> 02:08:14,600 for inside a Game. You're talking about whether or 2447 02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:18,520 not this game will live or die. And I have a definitive stance 2448 02:08:18,520 --> 02:08:21,160 on it, actually, which is, well, you can probably guess where 2449 02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:24,760 it's at, but I love this. Game, I think Ron said he thinks 2450 02:08:24,760 --> 02:08:28,760 he'll be shut down in a year. I won't say too much because I 2451 02:08:29,040 --> 02:08:31,720 want to kind of. Spoil and Ron says Ron says that 2452 02:08:31,720 --> 02:08:34,920 as a fan of it. Yeah, and you know, that will be 2453 02:08:34,920 --> 02:08:37,120 what a massive shame. And I'm not. 2454 02:08:37,160 --> 02:08:40,280 And this is not like Concorde, like you bunch of weirdos who 2455 02:08:40,280 --> 02:08:43,000 fucking loved and died on that hill, on Concorde Hill, which 2456 02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:44,600 you have no standards for multiplayer. 2457 02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:48,480 This is a unique shooter with its own distinct art style which 2458 02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,960 is a double edged sword and probably one of the reasons why 2459 02:08:50,960 --> 02:08:54,880 this game isn't doing that well and its numbers are dwindling. 2460 02:08:54,960 --> 02:08:56,800 Every every week the numbers dwindle. 2461 02:08:56,800 --> 02:08:59,680 On a Friday evening I saw in American time was at 25,000 2462 02:08:59,680 --> 02:09:02,440 which is not sustainable despite the fact that budgies developers 2463 02:09:02,440 --> 02:09:04,400 have said that they will maintain this long term. 2464 02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:06,880 But that's a almost a default statement. 2465 02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:09,760 It came out from the mouths of high guards developers and that 2466 02:09:09,760 --> 02:09:12,800 died in one month. It came out the mouths of 343's 2467 02:09:12,800 --> 02:09:15,680 developers mouths regarding Halo Infinite and their 10 year 2468 02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:19,240 planned and that died. So there's no way on earth you 2469 02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:22,480 should take that as face value and have any degree of 2470 02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:25,680 confidence in the that statement to assault your face that this 2471 02:09:25,680 --> 02:09:30,120 game is going to survive it. It is on the limit, perhaps 2472 02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:33,040 beyond it. The developers will be very 2473 02:09:33,040 --> 02:09:35,560 nervous who have worked on this game. 2474 02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:39,000 And it's a shame because this is a great title. 2475 02:09:39,000 --> 02:09:43,440 It has a lot of scope for improvement and it's, I don't 2476 02:09:43,440 --> 02:09:45,320 know what else to say. It's one of those like you have 2477 02:09:45,320 --> 02:09:49,320 to support or watch it die that I've I've seen too many good 2478 02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:53,800 first person shooters die As for a myriad different reasons. 2479 02:09:54,200 --> 02:09:56,880 A lot of the hate campaign for this or whatever or not with 2480 02:09:56,880 --> 02:09:59,400 Titanfall two, we blamed it for being squeezed between 2481 02:09:59,400 --> 02:10:01,480 Battlefield and Call of Duty. And then we're going to have 2482 02:10:01,480 --> 02:10:04,600 another game that's going to die, in my opinion, prematurely 2483 02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:07,600 and unfairly. And it's not something we should 2484 02:10:07,600 --> 02:10:09,960 celebrate. And I feel like console wars and 2485 02:10:09,960 --> 02:10:12,680 all that shit takes so much precedence over some of the 2486 02:10:12,680 --> 02:10:14,120 narrative. Beyond that, you're like, guys, 2487 02:10:14,120 --> 02:10:17,800 you'll want to speak, but listen, listen to me. 2488 02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:20,440 Why am I backing it so hard? Bungee? 2489 02:10:20,440 --> 02:10:24,160 You're not paying me. Sony don't love me, let's be 2490 02:10:24,160 --> 02:10:25,880 honest. But I'm backing this because I 2491 02:10:25,880 --> 02:10:28,760 think we should cut the bullshit out and support good games. 2492 02:10:28,760 --> 02:10:31,640 You may think this is a terrible game, but there's a corner of 2493 02:10:31,640 --> 02:10:34,920 people who do actually put a decent amount of hours in and 2494 02:10:34,920 --> 02:10:36,400 recognise it for being a good game. 2495 02:10:36,400 --> 02:10:38,440 This is different. I went hard on Concorde. 2496 02:10:38,440 --> 02:10:40,320 I'm not going to go hard on Marathon. 2497 02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:43,800 I hope it survived. But things are not looking good 2498 02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:45,920 for Marathon. And we found out this week that 2499 02:10:45,920 --> 02:10:49,360 its development budget was over $200 million. 2500 02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:54,840 And that is a cause for concern because that just means that 2501 02:10:54,840 --> 02:10:56,160 there's a lot more money to recoup. 2502 02:10:56,160 --> 02:11:00,080 And that's not even talking into take into account the, you know, 2503 02:11:00,160 --> 02:11:04,720 the recurring fees of maintaining this because, you 2504 02:11:04,720 --> 02:11:07,000 know, maintaining a game like this, keeping the service up, 2505 02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,880 it's not exactly very easy. And we've got Inside a Gaming's 2506 02:11:09,880 --> 02:11:13,440 article Marathon development budget is over $200 million as 2507 02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:17,720 new report for I think it's coming from Forbes. 2508 02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:22,040 They said it's likely over 250 million excluding maintenance 2509 02:11:22,040 --> 02:11:24,880 costs and upcoming content. So that's gonna take some time 2510 02:11:25,080 --> 02:11:27,680 and obviously in order to keep this game going, you need to 2511 02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:31,000 make sure that the you have to have ongoing content. 2512 02:11:31,000 --> 02:11:33,400 That's a prerequisite for games like this. 2513 02:11:33,520 --> 02:11:36,520 So more pressure, more cost being incurred in terms of 2514 02:11:36,520 --> 02:11:39,920 development to get your road map pushed up. 2515 02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:41,160 You have to push up your road map. 2516 02:11:41,160 --> 02:11:42,400 It has to be a lot more aggressive. 2517 02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:45,320 Now, based on those numbers, currently the game has a 2518 02:11:45,320 --> 02:11:49,720 concurrent player count of 20,306 players, down from an all 2519 02:11:49,720 --> 02:11:53,680 time peak of 88,337, which is significantly lower than the 2520 02:11:53,680 --> 02:11:58,440 free, free, what's it called? Summer Slam or service slam? 2521 02:11:58,440 --> 02:12:00,760 That one came out. Summer Slam. 2522 02:12:01,200 --> 02:12:04,040 I always say summer slam. Fucking wrestling shit. 2523 02:12:04,160 --> 02:12:06,400 Actually the next point point is there, the peak itself is down 2524 02:12:06,400 --> 02:12:09,680 from 143,621 which is the free service slam. 2525 02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:13,440 Additionally, the game is the 77th in the daily active Steam 2526 02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:16,880 players as of the time of this writing and that's not good 2527 02:12:16,880 --> 02:12:19,000 because a game like this, you can imagine it's probably going 2528 02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:22,480 to have a lot more higher player numbers on PC as opposed to 2529 02:12:22,480 --> 02:12:25,520 console. So it's a it's going to be a 2530 02:12:25,520 --> 02:12:29,200 shame. I hope it survives in looking 2531 02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:32,320 sketchy. But if you withstand the the 2532 02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:36,720 pressures, Bungie, and you have a good plan for content, you can 2533 02:12:36,720 --> 02:12:43,080 make some schleems. But we'll see. 2534 02:12:43,080 --> 02:12:46,400 Motherfucking schleems, man. That's what I'm talking about, 2535 02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:47,280 man. It's all about the schleems. 2536 02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:52,520 So that's marathon. Yeah, I think we've covered 2537 02:12:52,520 --> 02:12:57,120 pretty much everything, the only and it's been. 2538 02:12:57,120 --> 02:12:58,440 I want to give a shout out, by the way. 2539 02:12:58,440 --> 02:13:03,440 I want to give a shout out to Sox, who's currently tanking A 2540 02:13:03,520 --> 02:13:07,280 Skyreach Plus 11 for me in World of Warcraft. 2541 02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:09,880 Shout out to Scott Sox. He's watching the show, I think. 2542 02:13:10,680 --> 02:13:14,760 Oh, you're watching it So so wait, so stocks or stocks is 2543 02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:18,520 playing your on your account? No, he's tanking. 2544 02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:20,640 He's tanking. I'm playing one the whole show 2545 02:13:20,640 --> 02:13:21,920 are. You a bit for you. 2546 02:13:22,880 --> 02:13:26,920 He's been playing. I've got to get. 2547 02:13:27,080 --> 02:13:28,920 My vault done. Well, well what? 2548 02:13:28,920 --> 02:13:32,440 What class are you playing? I'm playing my death note right 2549 02:13:32,440 --> 02:13:34,840 now, but I was playing my wall lock earlier. 2550 02:13:35,320 --> 02:13:38,040 I only play the e-mail classes. I I'm. 2551 02:13:38,040 --> 02:13:41,400 Going to be edgy and. E-mail, my e-mail, my e-mail 2552 02:13:41,400 --> 02:13:43,800 class. Before we go out, I just want to 2553 02:13:43,800 --> 02:13:46,440 talk about the final topic. Just it's something that came up 2554 02:13:46,440 --> 02:13:47,680 and I thought it was quite interesting. 2555 02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:51,000 We've talked about the kind of limited capacity before, but the 2556 02:13:51,000 --> 02:13:54,240 rumour mill now we're going to start to see what's happening 2557 02:13:54,240 --> 02:13:59,000 with these next Gen consoles and the PlayStation 6 is Sony's 2558 02:13:59,000 --> 02:14:01,480 claimed to be working on a cheaper model of the PlayStation 2559 02:14:01,480 --> 02:14:04,720 six with with a possible price point. 2560 02:14:05,080 --> 02:14:10,760 We'll see of something between $350.00 to $550 is the cheaper 2561 02:14:11,040 --> 02:14:13,800 region. And I was like, oh, that's a 2562 02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:18,120 PlayStation Series S and there have been rumours about a, a 2563 02:14:18,120 --> 02:14:24,280 skew that's a portable version of the PlayStation, which will 2564 02:14:24,280 --> 02:14:26,120 essentially be the Series S version. 2565 02:14:26,280 --> 02:14:29,040 Because if you're talking about PlayStation six games that have 2566 02:14:29,040 --> 02:14:33,720 to be work, it'll be able to work assuming they have a parity 2567 02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:35,800 clause or anything. But you know, essentially 2568 02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:39,680 you're, you're a thing that has to scale for a handheld or a 2569 02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:43,600 hybrid device. Nintendo that is going to be 2570 02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:49,680 very, very, very controversial it when it's announced if it's 2571 02:14:49,760 --> 02:14:52,960 if it's announced, if that is the thing, because for the 2572 02:14:52,960 --> 02:14:56,040 entirety of this generation we have been talking about how the 2573 02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:58,080 Xbox Series S is holding back gaming. 2574 02:14:58,240 --> 02:15:00,680 I was held back. The Series XI was hold back 2575 02:15:00,680 --> 02:15:03,280 gaming in total in general like it's a potato. 2576 02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:05,600 How damn Series X has become a mean. 2577 02:15:05,920 --> 02:15:10,560 So the PlayStation 6 is being hamstrung or being held by a 2578 02:15:10,560 --> 02:15:15,680 handheld device. How on earth will there be any 2579 02:15:15,680 --> 02:15:21,320 narrative to to kind of counter that their own narratives that 2580 02:15:21,320 --> 02:15:23,840 they've dug, they've said for years. 2581 02:15:25,000 --> 02:15:27,760 I don't know. I I feel like that would be 2582 02:15:29,080 --> 02:15:30,520 yeah. And I think someone can take the 2583 02:15:30,520 --> 02:15:32,880 pace just. It's just silly. 2584 02:15:32,880 --> 02:15:37,400 Like the whole like, oh, holding back generations thing and we 2585 02:15:37,400 --> 02:15:40,360 believe in generations. Like the whole argument was so 2586 02:15:40,360 --> 02:15:43,120 such bullshit. And then like a universe where 2587 02:15:43,120 --> 02:15:47,080 everything's X86 and developers are, you know, optimising their 2588 02:15:47,080 --> 02:15:50,440 games for like low end graphics cards and fucking Steam Deck and 2589 02:15:50,440 --> 02:15:53,800 all this kind of shit. It's like the whole debate was 2590 02:15:53,800 --> 02:15:57,600 just just console war garbage, you know? 2591 02:15:57,600 --> 02:16:02,040 And watching like so-called reputable outlets like go along 2592 02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:05,000 with that shit was so cringe. Like, Oh, yeah. 2593 02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:08,240 Like, well, I can't remember what website it was, but one of 2594 02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:11,440 them was like, Microsoft's robbing us of the next Gen 2595 02:16:11,440 --> 02:16:15,440 thrill with its Xbox Series S, you know, and it's like, come, 2596 02:16:15,440 --> 02:16:18,680 come the fuck on, man. Let let. 2597 02:16:19,640 --> 02:16:21,880 It's just crazy. I mean, but you know. 2598 02:16:22,320 --> 02:16:24,840 I mean, it's OK, we can blame Microsoft for that. 2599 02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:28,120 And the Series S is, you know, had enough RAM and stuff. 2600 02:16:28,120 --> 02:16:30,360 I don't think it held the entire industry back. 2601 02:16:30,360 --> 02:16:34,400 Which has shown a remarkable aversion to making any kind of 2602 02:16:34,400 --> 02:16:40,120 gains Gen on Gen anyway and the baseline spec that they'd be 2603 02:16:40,120 --> 02:16:42,600 catering for our ancient PCs as it is. 2604 02:16:42,799 --> 02:16:46,760 So is that the case Like and let's be honest, the PlayStation 2605 02:16:46,760 --> 02:16:50,719 camper very strong on that point about hating the series S for 2606 02:16:50,719 --> 02:16:53,120 that. I want to see the same energy 2607 02:16:53,200 --> 02:16:55,879 from you guys, from you guys like I want to see the same 2608 02:16:55,879 --> 02:17:00,320 energy like, you know, the Series S you you've you've 2609 02:17:00,760 --> 02:17:03,799 resigned, you've you've declared it to be a failure, even though 2610 02:17:04,280 --> 02:17:08,160 in reality, Boulder Gate 6, I mean blackmail through Kong and 2611 02:17:09,320 --> 02:17:11,760 I don't know what else, but it's a handful after the end of the 2612 02:17:11,760 --> 02:17:14,840 generator coming to the end of the Xbox generation and the next 2613 02:17:14,840 --> 02:17:17,440 consoles come in next year. And we have a handful of not 2614 02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:19,959 even a handful of titles that held back. 2615 02:17:20,080 --> 02:17:22,840 And there were some examples. But yeah, you need to have some 2616 02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:25,360 consistency in whether or not you think the PlayStation 6 can 2617 02:17:25,360 --> 02:17:27,080 be held back. But the reality is this. 2618 02:17:27,240 --> 02:17:29,200 This is the reality that people need to face. 2619 02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:33,680 The whole idea of generations is dead. 2620 02:17:33,680 --> 02:17:39,040 It is completely dead. We are this generations of cross 2621 02:17:39,040 --> 02:17:40,719 Gen expand. We talked about Marathon 2622 02:17:40,719 --> 02:17:41,799 earlier. Apparently that's going to be 2623 02:17:41,799 --> 02:17:45,639 rated for Xbox last Gen Xbox One and PS4. 2624 02:17:45,639 --> 02:17:48,559 Apparently it can definitely run on those consoles easily. 2625 02:17:48,559 --> 02:17:49,879 Easily. You can scale it down. 2626 02:17:49,879 --> 02:17:53,480 You can see that how they can scale that down so that could 2627 02:17:53,480 --> 02:17:55,000 happen. It would should be hilarious, 2628 02:17:55,000 --> 02:17:57,320 but Call of Duty and I've. Got a friend? 2629 02:17:57,639 --> 02:18:01,480 I've got a friend and all she plays is Overwatch on her 2630 02:18:01,559 --> 02:18:04,160 original Xbox One. That's all she plays. 2631 02:18:04,280 --> 02:18:06,480 That's mad. And she's really happy with 2632 02:18:06,480 --> 02:18:07,799 that. Yeah. 2633 02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:09,760 So you know. And a lot of people are, are 2634 02:18:09,760 --> 02:18:12,200 happy with it. And that's the thing now you're 2635 02:18:12,400 --> 02:18:14,400 going to start seeing people. I'm I'm seeing a lot more people 2636 02:18:14,400 --> 02:18:17,000 playing on video. What's it called? 2637 02:18:17,440 --> 02:18:21,400 G Force now even freaking Gene Park was talking about path 2638 02:18:21,400 --> 02:18:26,400 tracing on G Force now. Was insane for him testing that 2639 02:18:26,400 --> 02:18:27,879 out. Of course. 2640 02:18:27,879 --> 02:18:30,160 Now it's great, yeah. Everyone says it. 2641 02:18:30,600 --> 02:18:31,840 It's one of those I need to test out. 2642 02:18:31,840 --> 02:18:34,400 I don't have to, but I need to test out to see the tech as 2643 02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:36,840 well, just from an intriguing point of how you know how where 2644 02:18:36,840 --> 02:18:39,920 the tech is at. You know, we talk, we talk about 2645 02:18:39,920 --> 02:18:42,160 like being impressed by tech and shit like this. 2646 02:18:42,160 --> 02:18:46,240 Like I'm always impressed when a game runs well on a low end 2647 02:18:46,240 --> 02:18:48,639 system. Like I couldn't believe how 2648 02:18:48,639 --> 02:18:53,400 well, for example, Death Stranding runs on the base Xbox 2649 02:18:53,400 --> 02:18:59,160 Ally looks fantastic and runs pretty damn well. 2650 02:18:59,160 --> 02:19:00,760 High frame rates too. You know? 2651 02:19:01,040 --> 02:19:04,559 I know it's a past chain game, but it's also like, I find that 2652 02:19:04,559 --> 02:19:08,240 to be really impressive when a dev like optimises their shit 2653 02:19:08,240 --> 02:19:10,959 really really fucking well. Because there's so many games 2654 02:19:10,959 --> 02:19:13,120 that come out of these days which is just so badly 2655 02:19:13,120 --> 02:19:15,559 optimised. They don't run well even on the 2656 02:19:15,559 --> 02:19:18,480 high end systems. So often times it's like when 2657 02:19:18,480 --> 02:19:20,879 they make them more and well on the low end systems, it's all 2658 02:19:20,879 --> 02:19:22,080 the more impressive. I don't know. 2659 02:19:22,559 --> 02:19:23,440 No, absolutely. Yeah. 2660 02:19:23,639 --> 02:19:26,959 I mean, yeah, this is how how the whole scaling thing, I don't 2661 02:19:26,959 --> 02:19:29,400 I don't like it. By the way, I would love a 2662 02:19:29,840 --> 02:19:33,400 generational distinction where you cut it off the next Xbox 2663 02:19:33,639 --> 02:19:37,040 just make it for that. But we are so far beyond having 2664 02:19:37,040 --> 02:19:39,520 that as the landscape. It's just not, it's not even 2665 02:19:39,559 --> 02:19:43,240 viable this generation with the, the prices of the next Gen 2666 02:19:43,240 --> 02:19:47,080 consoles going up to grand for and for Xbox and all of that. 2667 02:19:47,280 --> 02:19:52,400 You cross Gen is going to be massively, massively extended. 2668 02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:55,840 It's going to be huge. You're going to see cross Gen 2669 02:19:55,840 --> 02:20:00,720 titles for PS-5 and Series X for 5-6 years for the next Gen 2670 02:20:00,720 --> 02:20:02,640 console. I mean, the decision is dead. 2671 02:20:02,640 --> 02:20:05,240 I don't like it. It's not the future I wanted. 2672 02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:08,240 But I will say Microsoft were quite clever with their whole 2673 02:20:08,520 --> 02:20:13,680 the the master stroke with the what's it called with the IT was 2674 02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:15,800 a master stroke with a forward compatibility that they were 2675 02:20:15,800 --> 02:20:19,600 talking about. Last last Gen and I thought that 2676 02:20:19,600 --> 02:20:21,840 that that smart. Delivery and all that shit. 2677 02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:25,280 Yeah, no, absolutely. They, they, they, they, they 2678 02:20:25,280 --> 02:20:28,280 really were quite clever. They didn't capitalise on it in 2679 02:20:28,280 --> 02:20:31,640 typical Microsoft fashion as strongly as they should have. 2680 02:20:32,120 --> 02:20:34,160 But you know it. Whatever. 2681 02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:39,600 So we're we're this whole thing about, you know, your this idea 2682 02:20:39,600 --> 02:20:43,240 that you're you're going to get by the look at this look at this 2683 02:20:43,240 --> 02:20:45,760 fucking look at the look at the graphics of this game. 2684 02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:48,880 This is cyber look at that with part trace the details on the 2685 02:20:48,880 --> 02:20:53,960 petrol cap. Just crazy yeah, this game look 2686 02:20:53,960 --> 02:20:59,600 at that part you console passes wish it's so good. 2687 02:20:59,600 --> 02:21:02,160 It's so good. I want to so dare someone to sit 2688 02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:04,560 down and watch it and say I can't even compare it. 2689 02:21:04,760 --> 02:21:06,880 It's not even remotely in the same universe. 2690 02:21:07,960 --> 02:21:12,280 Yeah, so we'll see. What are you expecting? 2691 02:21:12,360 --> 02:21:14,200 Anything about the next Xbox console? 2692 02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:18,240 A project Helix in on the summer show. 2693 02:21:21,480 --> 02:21:23,000 In June. In June, yeah. 2694 02:21:25,000 --> 02:21:27,960 I don't know, man. I mean, it's definitely 2695 02:21:27,960 --> 02:21:30,120 possible. I think like if they're sending 2696 02:21:30,120 --> 02:21:33,400 out T-shirts, you know, I kind of feel like that. 2697 02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:38,840 I mean, I don't even want to say this, but I heard a crazy rumour 2698 02:21:39,400 --> 02:21:42,920 and this is like absolutely just podcast photo and speculation. 2699 02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:46,320 You know, don't even take this as anything seriously, but I had 2700 02:21:46,320 --> 02:21:50,120 a crazy room and that like they were looking against something 2701 02:21:50,120 --> 02:21:54,560 out early, like earlier than expected, like really blitzkrieg 2702 02:21:54,560 --> 02:22:03,040 unit through Yeah, so so I don't know if you know, if if some of 2703 02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:07,720 these like random rumours that I get like pan out with regards to 2704 02:22:07,720 --> 02:22:11,720 hardware, like maybe we could see it at the to showcase, you 2705 02:22:11,720 --> 02:22:17,040 know, a silhouette, some, you know, hints about what it'll do. 2706 02:22:18,520 --> 02:22:23,520 But, and also like, I don't think Microsoft wants to work 2707 02:22:23,640 --> 02:22:27,440 the, well, at least like any Microsoft didn't want to work 2708 02:22:27,440 --> 02:22:29,280 too much with The Game Awards anymore. 2709 02:22:30,160 --> 02:22:33,440 So like if they are going to do something, I, yeah, I think it'd 2710 02:22:33,440 --> 02:22:37,760 be like at their own show. And I suppose, like, you know, I 2711 02:22:37,760 --> 02:22:39,680 wouldn't be, I wouldn't be surprised if we did see 2712 02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:41,040 something about Helix at this show. 2713 02:22:41,800 --> 02:22:44,080 I am expecting it. I'm expecting that we will see 2714 02:22:44,080 --> 02:22:45,280 something about Helix at the show. 2715 02:22:45,280 --> 02:22:47,040 You can't just be giving out care packages. 2716 02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:49,760 There'll be something about it, maybe even a revealable the 2717 02:22:49,760 --> 02:22:51,880 console looks like actually the physical stuff. 2718 02:22:54,040 --> 02:22:58,520 I think there's a that will that would be a really good move on 2719 02:22:58,520 --> 02:23:02,480 Xbox as part to, to, to do that early, because it'll build up 2720 02:23:02,480 --> 02:23:07,400 the narrative quite early on and leave them in like people going 2721 02:23:07,400 --> 02:23:09,600 to be talking about the next Xbox, the next Xbox, the next 2722 02:23:09,600 --> 02:23:12,760 Xbox. I think they don't have to rely 2723 02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:14,600 on the game awards. You don't have to wait till the 2724 02:23:14,600 --> 02:23:17,080 end of the year. I don't think there's any harm 2725 02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:21,760 in talking about it now, But it seems the, the polls are pretty 2726 02:23:21,760 --> 02:23:23,240 much 5050. They don't think that the 2727 02:23:23,240 --> 02:23:26,080 PlayStation portable will hold the PS6 back. 2728 02:23:26,240 --> 02:23:29,200 It's a 5050 is where that poll has ended. 2729 02:23:29,200 --> 02:23:32,600 So yeah, yeah, interesting, interesting things. 2730 02:23:33,800 --> 02:23:37,840 But yeah, that's we'll find out in a well next week is going to 2731 02:23:37,840 --> 02:23:39,320 put most likely a state of play. Let's see. 2732 02:23:39,320 --> 02:23:41,160 We'll have some good stuff in a couple of months. 2733 02:23:41,160 --> 02:23:44,280 We're going to have the Xbox summer showcase event. 2734 02:23:44,280 --> 02:23:48,040 I think it's going to be a an interesting one AJD game. 2735 02:23:48,040 --> 02:23:50,440 Thank you so much for the five because the Xbox series X has 2736 02:23:50,640 --> 02:23:55,560 enough tops to run auto Sr. Why won't we see it used even by 2737 02:23:55,560 --> 02:23:58,120 first party? And have we ever actually seen a 2738 02:23:58,120 --> 02:24:03,280 game use the Xbox features? Broski Xbox series X is dead. 2739 02:24:03,280 --> 02:24:12,960 I don't know listen, Xbox series XX it's the PlayStation Xbox 2740 02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:15,720 guys are not ready to jump into the next Gen already, but like 2741 02:24:15,720 --> 02:24:19,480 just just just end it end it don't care about the tops the 2742 02:24:19,520 --> 02:24:22,440 the PS-5 pro exists, the mid Gen console that's that's there 2743 02:24:22,840 --> 02:24:25,240 people want to see the next bit next phase of it. 2744 02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:30,280 So they'll have hopefully one skew that they will focus on. 2745 02:24:30,280 --> 02:24:33,200 I imagine there'll be a lot of OEM devices, but it's APC hybrid 2746 02:24:33,200 --> 02:24:36,760 device and it's fundamentally changing the the landscape 2747 02:24:36,760 --> 02:24:39,040 really in terms of gaming. This is the biggest change 2748 02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:41,720 Microsoft in terms of the hardware space has ever made in 2749 02:24:41,720 --> 02:24:45,520 its life, in its history when it comes to consoles that this is a 2750 02:24:45,560 --> 02:24:47,760 this is a movie. Some people call it a departure 2751 02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:50,480 from consoles. It's actually going to be a 2752 02:24:50,480 --> 02:24:54,560 hybrid device marrying in it's more Windows processes. 2753 02:24:54,680 --> 02:24:57,160 Whether or not that pans out remains to be seen, but on paper 2754 02:24:57,160 --> 02:25:00,320 you can see how that can be disruptive as the rise of PC 2755 02:25:00,320 --> 02:25:04,000 gaming keeps gaining momentum and developers now have to cater 2756 02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:08,800 for PC or Windows first. It's a smart play where the 2757 02:25:08,800 --> 02:25:12,400 industry is heading now and how Xbox could potentially 2758 02:25:12,520 --> 02:25:15,240 capitalise on it and then fuck it up anyway. 2759 02:25:16,080 --> 02:25:18,280 Ladies and gentlemen, Oh, I didn't even have the music play. 2760 02:25:18,480 --> 02:25:23,320 But ladies and gentlemen, it has been a really good show and 2761 02:25:24,160 --> 02:25:25,720 effortless show. It's a good chat. 2762 02:25:25,800 --> 02:25:28,040 Hit the like button, smash it out. 2763 02:25:28,240 --> 02:25:32,120 The timestamps are actually efficient as hell this time as 2764 02:25:32,120 --> 02:25:34,160 well. So it wasn't all that crazy. 2765 02:25:35,120 --> 02:25:37,760 Just call down. Thank you so much for joining me 2766 02:25:38,080 --> 02:25:41,120 and all of us as we talk about Muslims. 2767 02:25:41,800 --> 02:25:44,400 Tell us what's next. What are you? 2768 02:25:44,400 --> 02:25:47,160 What are you talking about? How you feeling and are you 2769 02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:50,840 losing right now? Am I losing? 2770 02:25:51,320 --> 02:25:52,680 No. We're, we're doing well. 2771 02:25:52,720 --> 02:25:56,160 I mean, I'm losing because Blizzard's ruining the Horde, 2772 02:25:56,280 --> 02:25:59,280 you know, So there's that. But and they've killed the hoard 2773 02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:01,880 Alliance for the Horde thing as well, which is disgusting. 2774 02:26:02,120 --> 02:26:05,040 Disgusting. Well, officially they haven't, 2775 02:26:05,040 --> 02:26:08,200 but it's just like, it's just, it's so obvious. 2776 02:26:08,200 --> 02:26:09,680 It's what they want to do, you know? 2777 02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:15,040 But is there a did you say there's a PlayStation State of 2778 02:26:15,040 --> 02:26:18,200 Play this week? We most likely. 2779 02:26:20,520 --> 02:26:24,160 There might be there might be something Xbox fans want to tune 2780 02:26:24,160 --> 02:26:27,440 into as well, maybe. But well, actually Xbox fans, 2781 02:26:27,440 --> 02:26:30,320 but in general gaming fans, I suppose. 2782 02:26:30,320 --> 02:26:32,760 But Xbox might have a little something next week as well, 2783 02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:35,480 actually. Xbox might have a little bit of 2784 02:26:35,480 --> 02:26:38,120 something next week on the PlayStation Show State of Play, 2785 02:26:38,120 --> 02:26:40,080 no? No, no, no. 2786 02:26:40,080 --> 02:26:42,560 Like their own show. A little show. 2787 02:26:43,200 --> 02:26:48,480 Oh right, interesting Jazz. Look at his face. 2788 02:26:48,640 --> 02:26:52,320 Look at my analyse the veins in his face, the eyes. 2789 02:26:53,280 --> 02:26:57,840 What's he talking about? Chat. 2790 02:26:57,920 --> 02:27:02,000 It's been a good chat, guys. Did I see a semblance of tricep? 2791 02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:03,800 You're working out Caz Boba Fett. 2792 02:27:03,800 --> 02:27:06,920 We're talking about bro. We're making some memes up in 2793 02:27:06,920 --> 02:27:09,200 here. We're on the creatine now. 2794 02:27:09,200 --> 02:27:11,920 We're getting shapes. We're getting shapes. 2795 02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:13,760 I was checking myself out on the stream. 2796 02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:16,680 I was like, yo, it's starting to take shape. 2797 02:27:18,040 --> 02:27:21,920 Wait till you see I start to be a fucking thank you. 2798 02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:24,680 Good to see you Buffet. OK everyone, thank you so much. 2799 02:27:24,720 --> 02:27:26,400 Smash the like button. It helps out a lot. 2800 02:27:26,720 --> 02:27:28,560 I will be uploading on to Spotify. 2801 02:27:28,560 --> 02:27:31,160 It does take like because there's 1440P stream, it takes 2802 02:27:31,160 --> 02:27:34,520 about a day to process. So if you're asking wondering 2803 02:27:34,520 --> 02:27:37,640 why it takes so long and then I forget to upload it, but do 2804 02:27:37,640 --> 02:27:40,280 check it out. I promise you I'm working on a 2805 02:27:40,280 --> 02:27:42,520 vid. It's a lot of high production 2806 02:27:43,840 --> 02:27:47,680 and it's about Xbox and it's not perhaps what you think of. 2807 02:27:47,680 --> 02:27:50,360 We maybe we'll see hit the like button. 2808 02:27:50,440 --> 02:27:52,400 Thank you so much. Thank you so much, Jazz. 2809 02:27:52,400 --> 02:27:56,160 It was a wicked chat and we'll see you next week. 2810 02:27:56,360 --> 02:27:56,800 Peace.