1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,560 Alles beginnt mit einer Frage, mit dem Wunsch, ein Pferd 2 00:00:06,560 --> 00:00:09,960 wirklich zu verstehen. Aus genau diesen Gedanken ist 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,640 der Pkn Podcast entstanden, ein Podcast für alle, die 4 00:00:13,640 --> 00:00:16,800 Verantwortung übernehmen und bereit sind, genauer 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,800 hinzuschauen. Hier kommentieren Spezialisten 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,600 Pferdebesitzer zusammen auf Augenhöhe. 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,920 Geleitet von wissenschaftlicher Expertise, getragen von Neugier 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:31,760 und Respekt vor dem Pferd. Mit jeder Episode öffnen wir die 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,520 Türen der Klinik ein Stück weiter, wir teilen Wissen aus 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,200 Forschung und Praxis und machen Pferdemedizin verständlich, 11 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,440 relevant und lebendig. Das ist der PKN Podcast. 12 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:47,280 Schön, dass du hier bist. Learn more to care better. 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,600 Are guest today is dr. Kurt Sellberg a wellre non 14 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,480 spezialist in equine diagnostic Imaging curts deep connection to 15 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,960 horses started long, bevor his clinical training he greop on a 16 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:12,160 family oned quarda horse ranch in north idaho and early 17 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,400 foundation that clearly shaped his career. 18 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,320 He begin is Formel path at Washington State University, 19 00:01:18,320 --> 00:01:21,120 we're he're he'd earn his doctor it in veterinar Medicine. 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,080 Falled by an intensive Sports Medicine Internship and Virginia 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,440 from there he move to call out a state University to specialize 22 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,200 in diagnostic imaging today court is a board certifi 23 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,520 radiologies and a deplimate of the american college of 24 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:40,720 veterinary radiologies titles that markhim as an a lead expert 25 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,560 in reading, the complex scans of the equine Buddy Infekt you was 26 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,680 a founding member of the specific supsicity for equine 27 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,240 diagnostic imaging. Afferre Stint as an Assistant 28 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,840 Professor of the University of Georgia Court Return to Call 29 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,600 Rado State in twenty Sixteen. We're in now focus is on muscul 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,040 skuital imaging be on the clinic, you're find im 31 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:06,160 electoring at the International Society of equan lokomotor 32 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,479 pathology also nun as iselp or working as an fpi treating 33 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:14,400 veturnarian he serb as the onside imaging consultant for 34 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,880 the twenty ateen world equestion games and the twenty toky 35 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Olympics. We're incredible like you to 36 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,160 have in here to talk about protecting and supporting the 37 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,280 equine asleed. This is part one of two. 38 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:33,640 We hope you really enjoyed. Welcome to the pkn potcast 39 00:02:33,640 --> 00:02:37,840 todays episode is a lot of different before we dive into 40 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,360 medicine, diagnostics and klinical expertise in future 41 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:46,000 episode we one to start was the person behind the profession. 42 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,240 Hour guest today is dr. Kurt Selberg a friend, a 43 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,280 vatnerian who is working with many hose owners, trust deeply 44 00:02:55,760 --> 00:03:00,640 often at some of the most critical moments, in der horses 45 00:03:00,640 --> 00:03:05,600 lives, but like everyone Dr sellberg past in beginn in the 46 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,960 clinic today, we want to talk about how the past started the 47 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,880 choices downs and defining moments the chaped it. 48 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,040 And what's still Drive them today, Hi Kurt. 49 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:23,440 Hallo, they're for me on. It's a great pleasure things for 50 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:29,360 being willing to talk with us the beginning for the beginning 51 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,240 court. That's go back to the very 52 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:35,600 beginning bevor you were dr. Sellberg bevor what Narry School 53 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,600 bevor The Klinik what was you're word like growing up. 54 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,560 The. To be on us that like if you're 55 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,840 the kit, i think it's i was outside playing all time. 56 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,800 I was out finding things to do things to get in truble i think 57 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,240 i was all was a little bit of a bit of a launer at times i can i 58 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,120 can taker myself and preacupy myself with a mini things out in 59 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:05,600 the out in the playger out my family life do was was I'm 60 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,000 predicut my parents we're devorest one i was really so i's 61 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,720 but time me toen them and. They're and very two of an 62 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,440 world's a bit one was very very animal fokus and the out on was 63 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:24,720 last animal fokus, but the for my my dead is a is a horsure and 64 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:28,240 my step mom is a hors trainer and then on the otherside my mom 65 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,760 is a is an educator and she is a page d in education and my step 66 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,960 at is a he was a principle for many yers and then we will 67 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,880 moving to to politics and was the mar of are town. 68 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,840 Was in the stay senator p so we have to we're different 69 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:50,440 different to um kind of life, but it a way was it was a go to 70 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,400 a go on up and a lot of divers experience to to go there. 71 00:04:55,200 --> 00:05:00,240 So animals and in particular horses, we're already in you're 72 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,600 really life part of you life and know of you experience. 73 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:07,840 Y'ah and at absolute you know the there's probies. 74 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,280 There's defly animals a shape how you like out things in and 75 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:17,120 impetitor like dogers cats things of that the horses also 76 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,920 defly shaped ho i kind of view the world and i think my my 77 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:28,720 happiness is also is in kind of tide around animals and just 78 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,880 enjoy being aroundom and like the the feeling of the companion 79 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:35,800 ship. You know they don't have to be 80 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:39,120 schnuggle you know, but the there's just they're something 81 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:44,880 that brings joy to be and and don't don't know that's exactly 82 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:47,640 how i got in the wetter in medicine i think it probably is 83 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,840 a little bit, but the but versure happiness is mentidarand 84 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:57,600 was is and and dogs and cats. And what was the Moment way you 85 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,280 first saw this what be a potential pass for you to be com 86 00:06:02,280 --> 00:06:04,480 of at narry. I think. 87 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,400 Oh was it much later. No it was you was really. 88 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:10,960 I think it's a phota about being a vetanarian for shirt special 89 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:17,120 riting out of i that going to shue horses and meeting the 90 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,000 vetanarian's long way and haveing haveing horses and 91 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,880 vetanarian's and how the vetanarian was kind of welcome 92 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:26,960 down to the farm as i was like a family member and mini instance 93 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:31,800 is you know as is kind of? Frend slash professional that 94 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:35,160 was there to hellbout and make things better with the things of 95 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,720 or sick and brod me happiness and i think later is i when 96 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:42,920 there you callage i kind of the interests one of this was and i 97 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:48,880 word in in a physiology lab and this my major for the guy word 98 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,240 for. I'm doctum a guire he was a 99 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,320 instrument in my agication for sure and he's that me down is 100 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,640 like we do in have to words and i go on the say i've not about 101 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,480 going to to that's go, but i'm know that i want to do that now 102 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:07,840 i'm think about go and and get in events gigery so II my 103 00:07:07,840 --> 00:07:10,760 agication to me on a differen path and i was get in a master 104 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,760 gigery and blacker and so biology in the trial physiology 105 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:18,240 so i. I going down and differn path or 106 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,480 a little bit a time and as I'm thinking about that path. 107 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,920 I don't really one of it and right grants to make my life 108 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:29,440 because also's going to go on and get AP HD and in that and i 109 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,240 don't really one of break grants and and do but you research i 110 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:35,160 want to do something a little bit different. 111 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,160 I think i for that experience and so that's going to when i 112 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,920 turn back to that in a medicine. But i what'm chance that that 113 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,120 path that i'd did for anything at xi really and joyed that i'd 114 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,000 really grate time experience and move to a different part of the 115 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,080 countries, so a group and north i to home you know the Canadian 116 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:58,320 boarder so the path the to be down to my masters agrew i what 117 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:01,960 down the university for the and i was a different experience and 118 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:06,560 i think i need it that experience to kind of grow. 119 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:12,320 Sons quite interesting looking back now is the anything from 120 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,240 you childhood or all the years that make more sense in hindside 121 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,440 that. Is an like being a bit anan or 122 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:22,640 being it is what i what i do in live. 123 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,760 Boss, Boss and for your decisions. 124 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,120 You're some times and i don't know. 125 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,760 I don't know all is why the decision i make. 126 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,480 Why did it at times? It's teams it's word out with 127 00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:37,919 the valve for me, but at some times think have like the 128 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:41,120 patreon sate of ding, dong sit on my shoulder that whispers 129 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:44,720 like this decision and will go valve for you you know and it's 130 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,080 has going to brew the valve for me and and i think the 131 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:52,480 biggesting no is the pressor burns like to go three and and 132 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:55,760 mikure the your beer happiness like the overall happiness you 133 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:59,960 think's like Sands. Not always to me, but it has at 134 00:08:59,960 --> 00:09:02,800 a trust in the in mylys my Prozess. 135 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,880 What are that my be and it's let me don't really cool path this 136 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,960 for. So that and every metisin is not 137 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:15,840 always in and easy profession, emotional physicaly or 138 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,600 intellectually do you remember the moment you truly committeed 139 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:25,440 to this pos? I think one's i one, I was 140 00:09:25,680 --> 00:09:30,160 accepted in the Bad School. I was really in the path and i 141 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,960 know that's themes like it's a silly think but one's i got to 142 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,600 vat school and sereded a borthrop bad school i work in 143 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,120 clonical scientes and education and one's i got to be in the 144 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,040 do's kind of areas. Speciary watching other 145 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:48,440 vedinarians work on this education processies with 146 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,680 contining education to the university and then being on the 147 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:55,840 clonin for that's when i really commided and new what i want to 148 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:02,000 to do and we'll talk about like how my path that is what's no, 149 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,000 we shure that i was going to be an imaging specialist. 150 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:11,760 I axi really like surgery. Quit a bit and I Remember One. 151 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,160 There the ever abody does it just going in and. 152 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:20,560 I Remember was think i was in this, the it was a call of that 153 00:10:20,560 --> 00:10:25,200 and i to go to get test the next morning and i was in they're the 154 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,440 fition the at the gods out of the abdomin and i was city there 155 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:32,680 and us like you know what i don't not for that i really 156 00:10:32,680 --> 00:10:40,200 enjoy abdomens it all that's so. And so II as like you know, i 157 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:42,800 I'm not your that is the wait was going to go and that the 158 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,440 time you know the sports meters and college was just a starting 159 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,880 kind of sinario and II really was interested and that kind of 160 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:53,600 setup like the orthopädics and the imaging kind of side of, but 161 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,920 that didnt exist in terms of the special of the time that ausgone 162 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,640 and three was in tommatulator that i kind of around and for 163 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:07,520 what the reason II Kind of. Got in really well with the 164 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,880 imaging fakulty as well as usergery fakulty as as as a 165 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,880 technition for kind of bult of them and bot of Bots grups as 166 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:19,160 what i was do in the end and i was the imaging, one out and 167 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,560 what i was kind of do and i like to the puzzle of pudding. 168 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:25,760 Everything we get it and you know some of and things like a 169 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,480 do mistor like pudding, sing horses oriday like he I'm in i 170 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,520 see horses oriday but the some of the more and debt kind of. 171 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,520 Of of lameses and palpation and and watching hors go all the 172 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,840 time and i don't get to see all that is what is it what like to 173 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,560 so a tridip but my so out in watchs the lamest go for a 174 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:50,160 little bit but and and mist that portion of it being and we all 175 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,240 just. What and what is surprising you 176 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:59,120 the most when you will actually in it, what was the biggest 177 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:02,640 change and you're perspektive and perception when you started 178 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:06,160 you a. To to go on the battle and to go 179 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,920 and the radiology specificity. Her's first was vetnary Medicine 180 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:13,200 and then the next step to go to radiology in piticular. 181 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,440 Yeah, one of the reflecting back now. 182 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:21,520 I was i was an all of all of the knowledge that all of my 183 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,720 professor is had and seems like they new all the insters to what 184 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,400 was happening and i was like man i really want to be that later i 185 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:31,520 want to i want to no is my just they you i want to have that 186 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,960 experiens. Going three and now like in back 187 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,880 and we're I'm not versus we're i was i like back and I'm like oh 188 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,160 there's guys dint have all the ansers really they we're very 189 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,440 educated and have really good thots, but they don't know is 190 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,800 have the ansers and i knowing that on they're like it. 191 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,400 It was it was a probly made a little bit differents of an 192 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,040 experience, but it the time it was extra you really kind of a 193 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:58,480 cool that think that how they new and i one in the be that to 194 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,680 that was problem one of the the experience is that like me in to 195 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:06,880 be a spezialist was this guest that or so smarts and so down 196 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,720 there are but congitar we think done and have end of these 197 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,280 questions and meaning for maners it. 198 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,640 It metal a metal on to me on the other on the otherside. 199 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,680 You know you realize that they the dint have all there's, but 200 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,600 they there are prismore people and you've going the thinking 201 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,800 prozess if. You can't get down was you're 202 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:29,440 younger saf at the stage. What would you one him about and 203 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,600 what would you re a sure him about? 204 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:35,200 If i side down for sure of my soft, there's a couple of 205 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:38,840 experiences that i think I'll would have i should a take in 206 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,440 more venage of. Growing up and just knowing ry 207 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:47,200 and now and so my that is a horsure II travel, the raumle 208 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:49,040 them and and helped out shoening horses. 209 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,680 I private it taking a lot more time in shoening horses to do 210 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:57,760 it, i do remember mini mini times people it o's askep aus 211 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:02,720 going to be horsure one i group and as like and one there was 212 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:06,720 out. As i was my that, we're shapen 213 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,680 do a shapen a she form to to put on the horsony he's all there's 214 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,600 screener out of this hors for all and can back and i think aus 215 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:19,240 a calls of the time, my dead goes son, i don't will a key 216 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,720 what you do it here live is long is your hit is a bub your ass 217 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,560 and the. That that kind of solid of 218 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:33,320 fighted for me and i was i think i was in a aus do in blocks out 219 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,880 in the and the feels in my head was bol my ass and it there's as 220 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,520 a piffiny about six mons and to be in the new vetarine and i 221 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,160 like i don't think i do, i don't think i do, i don't think i 222 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:49,440 don't have my dead to me to do, but the if i if i would back. 223 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,400 But you can changel perspektive as you your size and my size, so 224 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:57,360 I'm leveling. This is it is that it is. 225 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:01,600 Just for your, but i was i was tom. 226 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:08,080 I'm yourself to win win things comup and a do's and see like 227 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:12,640 you have an of time or you don't have seamingly the resources to 228 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,200 do it find ways to do it because you can miss out on experiences 229 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,720 and you can miss out on franchips and. 230 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,040 And times that you with absolutes fider surfers that 231 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,280 like this this soldrip of central france that kind of keep 232 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,360 you safe for your sove and safe for that's i world and somedy 233 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,560 tolino on quide bit and I'll problem go back in tomice off. 234 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,840 I don't think that i that i miss a lot of this experance is, but 235 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,920 there's little experance that i'll be didness that i think 236 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:45,440 conminal out more to me and so i'll tomice off to to mixure to. 237 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:49,520 Just take it all in you know there's so many good things it 238 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:55,200 can happen if you just let it. So appreciation of meaning for 239 00:15:55,200 --> 00:16:01,120 was for social contact. You know my gripper France at a 240 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:07,360 have are are veri, veri, clustomy, veri, veri, we're roll 241 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,800 we'll two to the roll of veri veri series about the french it 242 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,320 kind of think, but we can have a good time. 243 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:16,320 But the that means a lot to me to be of the call of on some 244 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:21,120 people and just be a kb and just bs for a wow and that the world 245 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,200 kind of go a and just have this compensation with a friend and 246 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,600 the no judgment on the other side or for me with the happens 247 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:31,200 here the way and and kind of goed but frenchit a defining 248 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,680 means a lot, i don't have a ton of friends I've lot of really 249 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,800 good a quickenses and and i've this really tate that the 250 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,600 friends that really me a lot to me. 251 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,960 So we're going a little back to you're speciality as you're a 252 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:52,320 wellnown one of the best in the world for equine radiology. 253 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:58,320 Moswet Moswet Narians Don't start out knowing Execly what 254 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:03,280 that will end up how to you find you way into your specific field 255 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,400 of work. That there's a there's a couple 256 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,119 of things it one of a on a way and that that was i'd some that 257 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,680 i word from the three og and surgery and that's cool and that 258 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:16,720 was actually one of things that kind of shate my way and when i 259 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:20,160 was sitting down of these really all just that we're that i'd 260 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:23,520 that we're amazing people not just but a name is with a music 261 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:27,440 people that i you you think it out and what i're a decision you 262 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,680 make and this was from the really all just what i're decion 263 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,280 you make will be the right one so. 264 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,480 What have we have it? Is you do it? 265 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:37,360 And also like that's interesting it vice is just towning you to 266 00:17:37,360 --> 00:17:40,120 trusting yourself and i think that was really kind of let me 267 00:17:40,120 --> 00:17:45,920 down the path of of radiology and then one i got to my radials 268 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,520 you resensy there's some absolute phnomal people that 269 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,440 that i got to train under and one of this the guys is dr dick 270 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,400 paracan he's just a master likeing plain film radiogy you's 271 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,880 one the first people that it mr is on horses. 272 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,480 And this guys such a client amazing person as like that that 273 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:11,040 really make me what to be that guy and follow him and i think 274 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,640 he among the people that treen me he really put me down in that 275 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,240 path noing that I'm in ardin a resident see, but that that 276 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,320 guide active slotifide i want to be that person. 277 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:27,880 So it is. The Faszination was also related 278 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,480 to this kind of person and not nessesally ony to radiology. 279 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:35,360 Crips so if you. If you would be a gunnar 280 00:18:35,360 --> 00:18:39,000 cologist. Or I'm but i'm going to definer 281 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:44,000 out for that, but but it but you have fraser, it's the the just 282 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,040 the way he kind of pit things in a perspektive with radiology and 283 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:52,400 how radiogy can be a benefit. To the masses and so it that's 284 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,440 the guide, but it was also the topic and the i'm on the same 285 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:01,040 lines of have mini mentors on the way we're bagger small and 286 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,320 and eather one that can't can and really slotified me and the 287 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:10,280 imaging was dr kind down and he he to it to is days one of my 288 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,240 best friends he's a mentor of all of figure he's he really is 289 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:18,080 also slotified. How i what to go for my life and 290 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,120 and what and what to pot for this well and so there's i think 291 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,880 that is the all of think i problem with go back in tolmay 292 00:19:25,120 --> 00:19:30,600 ungerself is it mentors can be small, they can be perers they 293 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,400 can be anything but mixer you just take it all in for for 294 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:38,720 mentorship because lot of people have really amazing ideas and if 295 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,800 you can. Kind of chanel into that kind of 296 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,360 stuff, it it rezerealful for mentorship and i think my 297 00:19:45,360 --> 00:19:49,600 jungers of i don't know that as all as as patient as i probate 298 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:55,280 should a bin and and and i be not as gratius and they get go 299 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,240 back into my so of the same think to be a bitmore patient be 300 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,720 gratius like this mentors or that help to me a on the way. 301 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:06,720 So from the outside people off and see vetnary medice in as 302 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:10,720 very technical. But the from inside, it's all so 303 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,640 dpli emotional. Don't you think? 304 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:18,960 Absolute in the going back is my happiness is bentide the animals 305 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:24,560 and the it's one animals or suffering or even the oners or 306 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,120 suffering because the animals man it it really put to at 307 00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:30,880 emotional drain on your. I think it's absolute is in 308 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:34,720 emotional. In emotional profession and you 309 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:38,480 you try your best of separate your so from from that, but you 310 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,320 also no x actually have these people are feeling because you 311 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,960 proble experience that samting and live and as tof not to have 312 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,200 that that connection with the people that are struggling and a 313 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:52,560 time of need and something that can be potentally live and that 314 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:59,520 or even just the future of the of the patient and and i it. 315 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,200 At i think it's the professional surfers absolute animotional 316 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,840 chang and you have to really be call us in of that. 317 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:12,240 So what part of you're job is effekting you're the most when 318 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:17,000 you was starting out. And I'm and the actually the the 319 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:19,840 sof companance i think was problem one of the biggestings 320 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:25,520 you know I'll want to portrait that's you know you're doing and 321 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,240 you're component and you're job and and really in live at II 322 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,600 think i was components, but i just ted a hedge experience gap 323 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:42,560 and that probly that interturnamuel of of. 324 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,560 Soft out of what did you make the right position in thinking 325 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:50,320 about pudding the patient first, not just doing your job to do 326 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,880 your job a pudding the patient first that i do the right think 327 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,800 but that patient. It's very interesting home as 328 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,360 more as experience you're game in your profession. 329 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,200 As easia this question is to ask and you're a quite happy to do 330 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,680 this and the beginning. It's struggling, it's not very 331 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:13,440 comftable, but was the time it is one of the most relevant 332 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,480 questions andy day to ask for. Absolut. 333 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,680 Any kind of kase, we're that moments that you really broke up 334 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,680 or baby. You question you a choice. 335 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,600 I don't think that II don't think that i would have. 336 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:30,400 I don't think there's any moment that i would have stops to be to 337 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,560 not be of the anarian orquestion my choice i like one's i go to 338 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:39,760 that point and us doing my stop i really a new us in the ray 339 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:44,000 profession i new that i was in the rayplays it'll it'll good 340 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,720 and filled natural to to or to the things and i don't think 341 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:53,040 that i what change what i did. I think it we're going to 342 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:59,520 workout the way it should. So meaning the experience that 343 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:05,360 shape the way to work was horses and was on us like haveing 344 00:23:05,360 --> 00:23:07,760 influence on your style of work today also. 345 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,920 You have so we and the inner of the people, the talk about hors 346 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,520 people and people a have horses like that the intimes people a 347 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,160 have horses and hors people a bit kind of. 348 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:22,240 It's it crisy a times, but it's a crisy that i know because i'm 349 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,880 i am a horsoner and i grupper on horses riding them, and we get a 350 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,560 love a crisy because we like the animal so much and we get focus 351 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,560 on it but it's. Like the virus. 352 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,120 Just it ups, the lee is you're the signist of you will, but 353 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:42,160 it's something that i're stud and i was they're confible with. 354 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:44,720 That how that kind of and now was i think that was also 355 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:48,320 prehopolen and moving in to the profession because only you can 356 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,960 talk to the people about they're animals at a medical. 357 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,360 But you also tox there, they're deside about there competition 358 00:23:56,360 --> 00:23:59,240 or what they do at the ors and and have like all will's can 359 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:02,520 things to to breaking and and the horses of the better and be 360 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,200 betterage and job that think. So every vetnarian develops of 361 00:24:07,360 --> 00:24:10,920 philosophy of the time of the shape by mistakes and learnings 362 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,680 and experiens. What what you see are the call 363 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,280 values that guide you work today. 364 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:24,400 You're have again pudding the patient patient first above 365 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,280 andything that i kind of my on pride my on what ever II pudding 366 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,040 the patient first and being.com for one off to say i just don't 367 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,880 know I'm going to have the asc you don't a person to get back 368 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,600 to to back to you about these things. 369 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:46,640 And so the I think alsmity is i move through and i don't a 370 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:52,800 wetter in a medicine the beingable to to and mit you're 371 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,400 win in wrong or mit you don't know or understand that there's 372 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,920 more complexity two the things and and and b fors coming with 373 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,400 oners and and kolix. Is and it is is paramount to 374 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,640 sucessonisting. So like we to we're talking 375 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,680 about the other, they about senica you know what you don't 376 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:19,120 know to realice and to have a network like isap for instance 377 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,840 to ask other people about experience and in special cases. 378 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,280 Absolute. As you're definition of good 379 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,880 Medicine changedow with the is. Oh you have for your with it 380 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:34,400 with the time, but it there's what i for started. 381 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,840 We they're they're p is it or treemance that if or done to 382 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,200 horses and it's theme like the besting to do with the time and 383 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,840 then later as you start to game or information you've devilate 384 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,520 it chames this this treeman options and that's a bit of Play 385 00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:52,000 science works right you do you're best with the knog you 386 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,040 have the time based on literatur and that that of also of a 387 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,240 overtime of the better understanding. 388 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:03,280 When you get when you get longer tamfola of all of the things, 389 00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,000 Kind of change, a little bit and so for sure my idea of clordy at 390 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:13,560 metasin this devly change dovertime and what news to be 391 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,400 we'm news be done what can be done and what is in the raum of 392 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,680 of problem a posibility but probly not practical i. 393 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,160 Mean at one be. And one be series if we when 394 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,720 adapt or perspektive of and position of good medicine, we're 395 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,520 againing so what more knowledge even and venaron medicine so we 396 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,520 have to adapt how do you balance medical posibilities was a 397 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,360 reality of the horse live and we'll being. 398 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,600 Yeah, that one is problem one of the one diffical ons because 399 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:52,560 there you know there's so me things you can do but. 400 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,720 Are are you actually going to do something for the hors? 401 00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:04,040 There's a there's as sing that i Herd ones this famers onkologic 402 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:08,040 sergeant he's like there's something we can do to the 403 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,080 animal, but we can do for the animal right, so it's just the 404 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,040 at we're trying to. Palitative what have a but in 405 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,920 the end result is not can and diver a one and so i think that 406 00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,480 that that's that frasers stop with me for a bit is being 407 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:29,040 practical about the treatment and understanding one one an off 408 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,480 is an off for one, we can do in you more and we have to live 409 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:37,760 with what we have. I like to to name it medical 410 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:41,760 smartness yes, combined was empathy for the passion to a 411 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,920 absolute. There was an. 412 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:52,000 That that potic your point was really all strate to me by a my 413 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,200 first dog. What is a is a buddy, what is a 414 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:00,080 fortinual dog when he pass but he he got an cutani symptoma and 415 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:07,520 we we treat it the cutani symptoma with it with le mustin, 416 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:12,520 which is a. They're p to kill the the kill 417 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:16,000 the sells and he responibary well, but he do go in the septic 418 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:20,880 chock and and major threw and air we with in the pharmacy they 419 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,160 gaving for times the dose of the newstin and i can really not out 420 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,200 is his bone merr, so we was an prusing plut, so we was an 421 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,120 Prusing Playlist, we was a do a think. 422 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:36,920 And he was in the the he was in ICU for for some time and and we 423 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,240 we they're think herolic the you can do for this dog and he just 424 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,520 mental out. He was a dog that can't to be 425 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,960 three you mining live changes and University and so as we got 426 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:55,120 to you the sing you we II can like go II can like go of the 427 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,800 dog and and i should i should have an better about that just 428 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:00,880 being and trained and visual. And i was one of things like 429 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,920 we're doing something to the dog, but we're not doing 430 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:07,600 something for the dog and down one really husbin slit of it and 431 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:12,720 heans like there's an we have to do something, but some time GF 432 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,480 don't stand when an off is an off and IA wished that i had 433 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:21,400 differentoys is that i'll it's. What's quite interesting in off 434 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:26,400 this to see that behind a professor for the University, 435 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,760 was an enormes knowledge and the territica. 436 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:34,480 Backround you're outs all person that is taking care for as on 437 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:39,040 animals, so we're coming back to the terrory of the disease was 438 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,520 horses. It's relate to ani kind of 439 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,720 animal what have it is what do what do you think hors on us 440 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,520 most miss understand about red narrance. 441 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,240 Some time they think they don't in a stand. 442 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,240 The that we have so have lives outside of vetaner in matters, 443 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,160 but. Really. 444 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,880 But that you know you know that the the talk of about work, life 445 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,520 downs and i think that's kind of. 446 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,720 I think that's schon anigans really to be for. 447 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,560 I think it's just i was told ons but vitaner in bruture 448 00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:20,000 marquellies like it's we're live synergy and i really is me zens 449 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,440 to me like i ons that i like what i do i don't considered 450 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,560 work to be onest. With can be for a thrusherting 451 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,920 and think for the people or on me to do and and FTB work clunts 452 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,480 of that because if i was doing and i was just work you know be 453 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,400 find a work of a time, but but you know i think that the the 454 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,840 missunerstand and some times of a forsoners is you know of 455 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,120 valebo on a satterdate because you're out the mountons can't 456 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:48,440 think you know some times that it's a will a frusherting, but 457 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,800 at think it's or to a people really interstand of a time and. 458 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,960 But that that's the things that i think it are there and then 459 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,080 the other is the the the hors onner is. 460 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,000 I think all is what the best for the Hors and i'm at a what and 461 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:10,200 some time they they are like we is emotional cafsanerio and and 462 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,760 using this judgments for used to do what we can't do for the 463 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:19,120 hors, some time is we have to circle back around see it's. 464 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,800 That's be proct call. What's do the stepwise kind of 465 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,760 thing and and i think that's also something that I'll land of 466 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,440 a time haveing horses is that being or stepwise and 467 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,200 understanding and conservative and chums of what the things i 468 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,440 do next star important toner stand the disease proses forly. 469 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:43,200 So when you look back at you're pass, you have taking so far 470 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,200 what i you're was prod of. You'll man that. 471 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,680 That I'm in to be on us the one on most prob of is not something 472 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,760 about my profession to be to be on us. 473 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,760 It's it's my family. And France that are what I'm 474 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:03,240 surown my soft with this problem. 475 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,320 The most the problem, the the biggesting. 476 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,960 To will comed that person what next being that narry and being 477 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,480 a professor with to stay in the middle was balls feed don't to 478 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,000 us. You know there's a things that 479 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,400 that i think it chairs the mostar one. 480 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:27,760 I don't know that all we's been super kind that definity kind of 481 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,800 be a good person. And throwning me like off of 482 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,200 people that helt me be that but a person. 483 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:40,080 So what's still exites you about you want to they. 484 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,200 Oh man, this feel this is changing. 485 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,400 On it, I'm so fast that i keep bubble it to be for and i 486 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,560 definity spent time reading it i get up in the in the really 487 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:56,560 mornings and in read new new technologies, new new things 488 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,360 like that i think is just is you do we talk about this all a time 489 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,040 axedy plus in the podcast to to be buther. 490 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,320 Extra the out they's have too this out. 491 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,440 That is that if they would be andy exignment and you more 492 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,080 you're that is really not imagible. 493 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,440 You're for your in the the cool things or happing with ors of 494 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,400 bologics technology, interms of imaging ways. 495 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:29,120 Artificial intelligence and how that can make my life a bit 496 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,960 easier in terms of my work and really check even being a better 497 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,720 ready august because of the the things it artificial 498 00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,480 intelligence are machine learning conpetentity do there's 499 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,720 are things that really exide me going for that and i word about 500 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,720 my job at this time not asseserity, but i do think that 501 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:51,360 the shape the future i can't be kind of a cool thing for 502 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,840 energing and. Just the if alling technology 503 00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,720 that's out there, it's i think very impressive. 504 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:02,800 There's a very nice good quote by a friend of us darryk 505 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,840 nottenbelt he was telling already severaly us a go that 506 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:13,000 technic is not replacing of vetnarian, but it will place of 507 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:17,760 vetnarians we won t us the technic yes so i get he was 508 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,800 right. Already of you years and so 509 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:28,960 beforebefore.com in AI and what do you hope people on the stand 510 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:34,159 about about you work and about wetnan medicine afterlistining 511 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:39,400 to this podcast. One Hoefly am a bitmore of the 512 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,000 humany an imperrible Person. I think that's that's probaly 513 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,760 one of the biggestings for me is beingable to be a purge to 514 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,560 asquions and. And a lot of times, the things 515 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,520 that that are most meaning for as we tarted about it are 516 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,639 explaining you're my stakes that e mail or time, and that takes 517 00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:59,280 that think of a bit of a bit of confinance Toner stand that 518 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,040 you're a human and and the seconding is tick back the your 519 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,600 humans, so there's in a we we i don't think that on, there's 520 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:11,560 don't think this, but some times it you hits last is we we're 521 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:15,120 also a motional cruters. As a veranerians, the same is 522 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,480 the horsoner and that we have invested interest in the horses 523 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,280 well, and it's not just because we want to do or work is because 524 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:26,480 we want to but the hors first. It's it's for you me the my 525 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,160 friends, it's it's about the it's about the hors in in the 526 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,000 end. So good. 527 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:39,520 Thank you for sharing you're story so people in the next 528 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,960 episode we will dive deeper into your clinical work and explorer 529 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:48,000 some of the questions house oners a offen a frate to ask for 530 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,080 no thank you for a mining us that behind every diagnostes and 531 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:57,600 every treatment plan that i you that is a human story and the 532 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,520 life long commitment to the horse if you're enoyed this 533 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:05,440 episode. Make sure to join us for the 534 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:09,560 next conversation with dr. Kurt Selbeck and where we move 535 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,280 from the personal journey into the realities of equine Medicine 536 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,840 today. 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