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Learn more to care better. This we have is like you
different episode. We're sepping into the world of
advance equine colic surgery training, we're experience
sergants mentor the next generation two highly
specialized proceders in this episode we explorer white
practical education is essential how confinance is builds in the
operating theater and what it means to continues the race the
standard of car because better training ultimate le means
better out comes for horses we hope you intoid is episode happy
Listing. So, Welcome back to the Pico End
Podcast Todays Episode takes you behind the scenes of something
many horse oners here about but really truly understand advanced
college surgery trading what happens when experience
sergeants from differentcountries.com together
and why does it matter for you horse?
And February, we hosted as three day pactical equine collectority
course here at the clinic. The course was co organized by
our good Friends and great surgens Professor Jessica Justo
and Professor Marco Gandini as well as our on head surgen Dr.
Nico Bolz, so before we dive in could you tell our lizness a
little bit? About who you are and what are
you doing everyday? Of cours and thank you for have
in has, we are a kind surgers work in the referal hospitals
and academic settings, a large part of VR daily works involves
emergency medicine, a specialy in collect surgery and the
intensivica of critical heal horses, a longside the clinical
work we are a deepling voled in teaching and research.
Hollways we the go improving outcoms for horses.
One sing we off and see here at pkm potcast is that progress
coms from sharing knowledge and that's exackly what inspired
Discos right Marco. Oh yes, we're absolute a right
and till now there is really only be in one comparible callic
course. In the States.
In just in the states, we're just florida and that make it to
be difficult for all european surgeony to a ten so that i dea
was to create european space. We can group to get a experience
surgeance. And they cool to so it's a lot
from me chaders from me chader experience, so it was more on
sharing experience is because he's not call exorger is not
just about technical skills, but so about the season making
timing and teamworker teamwork of course from the very begin in
the. Your team here for the clinic
niederlands supported the vision and Nico Bolze have to shaba
corse tgs as electorar and estructor and you christian
supported the project with facilities time and upsent
ideas. So as you Menschen already,
bevor the corse the oni corse until nowos in the States, so we
have. Also Limited space is available
for participance not on the geographical issues and as the
horse population is rising. Also an Europe I get it is a
good idea what made the corse different from the others or
from the other and not from the others i have that you have the
human sergeant coming here to get some texture is also.
The lible of partispant was through your markable we have
the diglomates and very export clinations for many different
countries, and but behind that it was the atomosphere is it's
streamly interactive we don is discussions and share clinical
experiences it it was and just teaching, it was a learning
together, it's or make an amazing.
Kurs. Cool for horse oners listening
at might beep surprising to her it to hear how much practical
training sergants continue to do why is it so essential?
We'll surger to can not be learn by lecture salon and so hands on
what lops a love sergants to practice technics make me
steaks. Save in the save, we and receive
I'm media to feedback. That's what the builded
präcision and at the end make surgery save safe for the horse
we treat. So like fire workers, train out
to result, fire issues for example or special for orses
always keep on training. I'm going to is i like this
approach a lot that at hest to be that we that you're not.
In the situation to be harmful for the patient because you're
aware of the technik already bevor.
So many professions we're this just a rutin thing for
professionals that's think about pilot of a test on simulators.
And they consistently do this next to flying.
So that's support. So.
So when horse ordner's think about kolleg surdery the offten
imagine the operation at surf as the hardis part, but in reality
the challenges startmuch earlia don't they.
The biggest challenges are every diagnosis rapid redity the
cision making managing system systemic complication and
provide intensing postaborative car.
And the evanes small impromance in the series can make a youge
difference in survival. So we have some things that's
stand out in Niederlins one is international Spirit, why is
Corporation and collaboration a cross counties so important and
equine Medicine. Must important think to not is
that there is no clinic that see is everity of case so by sharing
our experience internationaly we're find protocols learn
different approaches and all together improvation to care, so
collaboration we think pushes in tirefield forward and at the and
benefits horses. And the oweners.
Ok good so understandable how is it to work here niederlands for
this kind of approach thersica? It was Fantastic, Christian.
The facilities are excellent the Organisation was flowless and
the teamcreative welcomeing butily Professional toosphere so
have we one supported the project and it's fruly and ideal
environment for advanced and surgical training.
Ok, thanks for this, we try to improve any time like we have a
meeting already today in the morning to catch the things that
we learn from our meeting. That's log ahead.
What will Surgical Training look like in the Future?
What we expect certany more more simulation so to the practice
more Simulator structures, more structure is skill assessment
and again. I'm sorry to infasise we is but
will be strongger internation a collaboration but what make the
differenz. So Training will a offly became
more Standard dice and EBIT as based and again.
This will a surgeon two pro and pro theout.com for for the.
Fations and me that is very easy, the equine world anyway as
international, but we encreasing the numbers of kasing by a kases
by going international is as easy as it is and you and you
learn more from each other because.
From and autobillic approach, for example, you see different
kind of mindset related to the offspring of the country with a
people are working or coming from and so i this.
I think it is just and objektive logic reflexion to do this for
the professionals listening what message what you like to share.
Have a stop learning, it's the world and message evan we're
export surgers benefit to from continues training and
discussion and collaboration that's how are are field evoles
continues to you. Know and you think in the
medical related world is benefiting from this and now a
message for or horse ordners because and the end of the day
everything. What we i do here as helping to
care better. What if i have to given advice
to hors on are endos what come out from from the scores, i just
a note all to get a we with to get are a team participance
coming from over all over europe and as you said that makes a you
j case lot, i'll we at some abry.
We're we're the experience of morban a proximate four thousand
kasis treated, but by all the surgeons, so we gruped that and
so at the ende the main important message is to act
quick to to understand if you're horses, kolleg starting feeling
bane, but with be the i'm to call your vet and to rely on on
your vet at home for. We're decision and that's a
willing prove so much thatout.com and ultimate lee
that we're make your horse to feel last bane or to get on
that's the. Mosting and maybe you by acting
fast and quickly maybe you can privent to surdery.
Yes Absolution. We as a surgeon, we are looking
in to many präventive metal this to prävent surgeon.
So and sird and last and but not least what would be your message
for refring that narrens. Timing and communication are
key. You don't near Perfect diagnosis
bevor a Forum. Reconising when a kase, my
become surgical and actin early improse stabilisation reduces in
desinial damage and incrises survival and one fill that's an
referal team work together outcome's inprove drum mc to
hickerdy. Thank you thank you for this.
I get it was the short inside. And have a rap up for our course
for your course not for our for your course was nico and i'm
always played to welcome you because it is also for me very
interesting and it is an and nice improvment also from from
other aspects and medicine to see how that approach change was
in the last. One or two deckates i can I'm
some me years the niederlands this your twenty years, and when
i see a regular surgical colic course everage everage case the
horses i looking so much better that in the pass so emedity
after the surgery and. And everage not a very
complicate case and everage case is leaving the clinic was in if
you days after the sodary this is enormes from the development
that you i doing so thank you for this thank you for all this
what the other international and national Kollegs i doing for
this kind of patient owner and and horses imperticular and
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