1 00:00:06,900 --> 00:00:10,100 You're listening to the back home network presented by home 2 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:22,700 field apparel welcome back to Crimson Cask ale and Claudia 3 00:00:22,700 --> 00:00:26,700 Scott Caulfield back with you. Once again, it is the 15th of 4 00:00:26,700 --> 00:00:29,800 September half done with the month, Scott hard to believe. 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,700 We've already and week, it's really weak for. 6 00:00:33,700 --> 00:00:36,100 Why do we call it week? Three its week for. 7 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:38,300 There's no such thing as week zero in football. 8 00:00:38,300 --> 00:00:40,200 I don't understand it. But anyway, we're there, 9 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,400 whatever it is. We're in the third game of the 10 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,500 season for Indiana football is they take on Western Kentucky. 11 00:00:46,700 --> 00:00:49,000 We're going to talk about that on the next podcast. 12 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,800 We're also what less than a half month away from Hoosier 13 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,200 hysteria. We're about a month and a half 14 00:00:56,200 --> 00:00:58,800 away from the start of the college basketball season. 15 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,900 So we got a lot of basketball. Talk about because the schedule 16 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:02,900 came out last week's. Got we're going to talk about 17 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:04,400 that. How you doing? 18 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,200 I'm doing good. I mean so is Hoosier hysteria, 19 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:08,800 then week zero? That would be week zero for 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,300 basketball. Well, that's the thing. 21 00:01:10,300 --> 00:01:13,000 It's like, what is, what is week, zero? 22 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,600 I don't get it. I, all I know is that I you 23 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:19,600 plays Marian University in an exhibition game on October 29th. 24 00:01:19,900 --> 00:01:23,500 And the first real game is November 7th, which is not that 25 00:01:23,500 --> 00:01:25,200 far away. That's less than two months 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,400 away. It's hard to believe. 27 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:29,500 We got a lot of. We have my worst time of year 28 00:01:29,500 --> 00:01:33,200 from a Other perspective coming up here, as everybody knows my 29 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,000 least favorite month, October the month, where everything 30 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,600 slowly starts to die coming here very soon. 31 00:01:38,700 --> 00:01:42,200 So a lot of chords available color leaves that there's two 32 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,300 ways to look at it. Like a lot of people out there 33 00:01:44,300 --> 00:01:46,900 celebrating PSL season and I'm like, no. 34 00:01:46,900 --> 00:01:52,600 Get that away from me. So it's, it's a thing, I don't 35 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,600 know. Anyway, Scott, it's good to see 36 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:55,900 you again. It's been a little while since 37 00:01:55,900 --> 00:02:00,800 we podcasted anything new and your neck of the woods, No, I'm 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,900 excited for the football game, this weekend, I got the, I 39 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:07,700 listen to your pod about tailgating, I have the Weber Q 40 00:02:07,700 --> 00:02:11,900 if you, like you were talking directly to me and I am ready to 41 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:16,400 do our first tailgate. So we are in we're in lot 9. 42 00:02:16,500 --> 00:02:20,200 Anybody can come by, we're kind of on the edge right next to 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,900 the, or right. Like between a little walkway 44 00:02:21,900 --> 00:02:24,400 that goes up to the stadium, across from the practice field, 45 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,100 just doing a small me, and my two boys and my wife, and I'm 46 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:30,400 taking a page out of your book. Book I think from a couple years 47 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:33,800 ago, we're bringing the grill, we're going to grill, a sausage 48 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,800 patties with cheese and pre-made biscuits and then just do a 49 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:40,400 little biscuit sandwiches and then my son wants croissants 50 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,800 because you know, I don't know, he does. 51 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,600 So we're doing that and that's going to be our tailgate that's 52 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,100 great. Well, I wish you luck. 53 00:02:48,100 --> 00:02:51,200 I will try to make it over to say hi but you know, I can't 54 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:52,600 you're busy, man. You got a big one. 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,800 Yeah, I tend to get bum rushed to some degree at the tailgates. 56 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,200 And, you know, will we will talk At the tailgate stuff on the 57 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,800 football podcast, but we're going to talk mostly basketball 58 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,600 on this one. But before we get to that, just 59 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,700 a reminder that crimes and gas is part of the back home 60 00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:11,100 network. The back home network is brought 61 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:14,200 to you by home-field apparel, they keep dropping stuff Scott. 62 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:16,700 I don't know where they find all these designs, but they just 63 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:19,400 dropped a Virginia collection. That looks. 64 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:24,500 If I, if I, if any bone in my body was a Virginia fan, I would 65 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:27,500 be like, electrified right now. I would be giddy. 66 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:32,200 I would there would be Be sparks flying off of my skin with how 67 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:35,500 good that collection look but I'm not one of those people. 68 00:03:35,500 --> 00:03:39,400 So all I can do is to tell you folks to go find home-field 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,700 apparel on Twitter. I literally have a to-do list on 70 00:03:42,700 --> 00:03:46,900 my computer and one of my items this week is to go into a 71 00:03:46,900 --> 00:03:48,500 no-joke, go to home field apparel. 72 00:03:48,500 --> 00:03:54,500 And by the Blaster Colorado Blaster, the burrito sweatshirt 73 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:58,000 and Neubert Borough, not burrito, okay? 74 00:03:58,500 --> 00:04:00,500 That's a safe. Yeah, bro. 75 00:04:01,200 --> 00:04:04,500 I think actually yet, though, every to go on please, yes. 76 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:11,100 Wow, Connor make a burrito shirt, my lips to God's ears. 77 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:14,600 No, I'm literally as much to do it, says Blatt by Blaster 78 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:17,100 hoodie, and Colts hoodie. So that's why was one of my to 79 00:04:17,100 --> 00:04:19,000 dues for the week. I don't think Connors gonna make 80 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:23,400 a burrito hoodie, but I will say there's an opportunity with UC 81 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,800 Santa Barbara to make a tortilla hoodie or a tortilla shirt. 82 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:29,400 Because if I don't have you all For this. 83 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,700 But like late 90s, UC Santa Barbara had this thing where 84 00:04:32,700 --> 00:04:36,400 they would throw tortillas on the floor during basketball 85 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,300 games. And and it was this big thing 86 00:04:38,300 --> 00:04:39,700 for a little while. And then, of course, the fun 87 00:04:39,700 --> 00:04:41,800 police came in and ruined everything. 88 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,100 But this was a storyline last week, actually, when who was it? 89 00:04:46,100 --> 00:04:50,800 Houston went to Texas Tech and they have now a tradition where 90 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:52,700 they throw tortillas on the field. 91 00:04:52,700 --> 00:04:57,100 And so there's there is a tortilla apparel market place. 92 00:04:57,100 --> 00:04:59,900 I think that has not been fully tapped and if Going to tap it 93 00:04:59,900 --> 00:05:01,600 its own field apparel so check them out. 94 00:05:01,700 --> 00:05:05,800 Use the code home for 15 percent off your first order. 95 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,600 If you've not been there before, you will find that to try the 96 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,000 corn tortilla. See what happens. 97 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,900 Try the code tortilla and see what you get. 98 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:15,200 That would be an amazing Easter egg, probably not going to help 99 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:22,400 anyway, so Lisbon, I'm lot of to do about the Indiana University 100 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:27,700 men's basketball team as they are in many circles, projected, 101 00:05:27,700 --> 00:05:29,600 to be the best team in the conference. 102 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:33,500 We don't know if that will actually be the case but that's 103 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:36,700 what some people think. And there's a lot of reasons why 104 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:40,900 you might think that a lot of them having to do with obviously 105 00:05:40,900 --> 00:05:44,000 the Big Ten losing some players but Indiana bringing back a lot 106 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,800 of good players. Indiana having a second year 107 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,400 under Mike Woodson. So some stability there and we 108 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,700 look at this season and we see an interesting schedule one that 109 00:05:54,700 --> 00:05:57,200 does not look like the schedules that we've seen out of Indiana 110 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:02,000 for most of the last decade. Decade Really Scott as Indiana. 111 00:06:02,300 --> 00:06:05,200 They start off, slow and then things really get difficult. 112 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,100 So we wanted to break the schedule down. 113 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,600 We had a couple of questions from folks out there that we 114 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,300 were going to tackle. And so we're going to do that 115 00:06:12,300 --> 00:06:13,900 right now. So we're we start off. 116 00:06:14,100 --> 00:06:16,900 Obviously, you get two exhibition games, we're not 117 00:06:16,900 --> 00:06:20,000 going to really dwell on those Marion on the 29th of October 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,100 st. Francis on the 3rd of November 119 00:06:22,300 --> 00:06:25,700 and then you get a weekend off and then boom, you're in it. 120 00:06:25,700 --> 00:06:29,000 You got Morehead State here in Bloomington on Monday. 121 00:06:29,100 --> 00:06:31,600 No, that's not that good of a game. 122 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:35,000 Obviously, you go back and look at what Morehead State did. 123 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,700 Last year they were a decent team. 124 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:41,600 They were 118th and Ken Palm. They went 23 and 11. 125 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,700 And, you know, this will be an interesting game. 126 00:06:45,700 --> 00:06:48,500 I think, you know, maybe maybe calling it not good as a little 127 00:06:48,500 --> 00:06:51,000 bit premature because that's a team coming in. 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:55,200 That didn't lose a whole lot at least unless they were people 129 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,300 that wanted to transfer portal that I wasn't aware of, but they 130 00:06:57,300 --> 00:07:00,900 bring back a lot of minutes. Lot of starting experience. 131 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:05,600 The one guy they lose tray Halliwell was a sub. 100 132 00:07:05,700 --> 00:07:08,300 offensive, rating guy. So maybe they, you know, they do 133 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:11,800 lose some, three-point shooting with him, but that's a team to 134 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,800 kind of keep an eye on its kind of a sneaky opponent to have to 135 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,100 start off with. They get a truly bad opponent in 136 00:07:18,100 --> 00:07:20,400 the second game, Bethune-Cookman, who was 9 and 137 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:25,700 21 last year, that's a meac team that is that's on Thursday of 138 00:07:25,707 --> 00:07:30,100 that week, but that All Leads up to the Lowing week when they get 139 00:07:30,100 --> 00:07:32,000 their first really interesting test. 140 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,200 They travel to Cincinnati to take on Xavier. 141 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,600 It's an FS1 game. We knew this game was happening. 142 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,700 They take on Sean Miller, who, of course, his brother had 143 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:43,500 something to do with, I you for a little while, they're in the 144 00:07:43,500 --> 00:07:46,500 Cintas Center, which I don't know if Indiana's ever played in 145 00:07:46,500 --> 00:07:50,300 the Cintas Center, they probably played at Xavier at some point 146 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:51,800 in their history. I didn't look it up before the 147 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,100 podcast. I'm sorry. 148 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,200 But I'm looking forward to this game Scott because, you know, 149 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,000 Xavier even in Seasons, where they aren't. 150 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:03,000 Is always pesky last year. Definitely was like that for 151 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:09,400 them 23 and 13 didn't make the tournament, but did make a 152 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,300 tournament and won that tournament, you know. 153 00:08:12,300 --> 00:08:16,300 So this is a team that is is not to be trifled with and will be 154 00:08:16,300 --> 00:08:19,500 an interesting look given that they're gonna have a new coach 155 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,600 and they do have some nice pieces coming back from last 156 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:24,800 year. Yeah, I mean last year you know, 157 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,300 they're ranked 53rd and Ken palm and Sean Miller obviously has 158 00:08:28,300 --> 00:08:31,100 had success. Is Xavier in the past, you know, 159 00:08:31,100 --> 00:08:33,799 this is the Gavotte game so you can't really, you know, this is 160 00:08:33,799 --> 00:08:36,500 this was schedule as part of the, the that Gavotte game 161 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:39,299 schedule. But this is though these are the 162 00:08:39,299 --> 00:08:41,799 kind of games that I like Indiana to have on their 163 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:46,000 schedule kind of playing mid level or higher level Regional 164 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,300 opponents you know this game you know games against Cincinnati. 165 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:51,600 We had some Steel Games Evansville for a while. 166 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,500 Like these are the kinds of games that I feel like have been 167 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:56,800 lost for and we'll talk about some of the higher profile games 168 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,000 that we knew are coming up as well but I feel like I have been 169 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:02,800 Lost, you know, we obviously lost like the Kentucky matchup 170 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:06,100 but it is kind of I don't want to cause a dreamlike lower level 171 00:09:06,100 --> 00:09:09,900 but just you know not complete top Tier 1 but some of these mid 172 00:09:09,900 --> 00:09:12,300 level. Yeah, you know, roundabout state 173 00:09:12,300 --> 00:09:14,100 of poems. So this is a great game and I 174 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:16,700 would hope that in the next couple years we can play Xavier 175 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:18,600 against. It's a fun it's you know, it's 176 00:09:18,900 --> 00:09:21,300 fun to play teams are that close to you and kind of get a little 177 00:09:21,300 --> 00:09:23,700 bit of something going on there, but it is that the Sean Miller 178 00:09:23,700 --> 00:09:26,600 thing is interesting, not just because Archie was here, but you 179 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:31,700 know it's I can't think of a Lot of history of a mid-major coach 180 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:36,800 having that much success at a program going on leaving, and 181 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,100 then, coming back to that same program. 182 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,700 Yeah, well and it's interesting because, you know, when Miller 183 00:09:43,700 --> 00:09:48,300 left Xavier, it was a different program than what he's coming 184 00:09:48,300 --> 00:09:49,800 back to you. Because I don't think that you 185 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:55,200 can call Xavier a mid-major, I mean, they are a very major 186 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:57,000 Conference Team. The Big East is a major 187 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,700 conference and, you know, Sean Miller Last coached there in 188 00:10:00,700 --> 00:10:04,000 2009 when they were in the Atlantic 10 and they were at you 189 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:08,700 know this is where I get a little bit pedantic with my 190 00:10:08,700 --> 00:10:11,300 definitions of what is a mid-major you've had to deal 191 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:14,900 with my stupidities on this in the past but like somebody like 192 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:17,500 there was a post the other day where someone tried to classify 193 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:20,900 every non power 5 team as a mid-major, he can't do that. 194 00:10:20,900 --> 00:10:23,400 That's not how it works. Like the Mountain West is not a 195 00:10:23,408 --> 00:10:27,000 mid-major conference and and so on and so forth, but Xavier 196 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:30,600 definitely a major conference Steam, I agree with you about 197 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:33,100 these are the types of matchups. I'd love to see Indiana play 198 00:10:33,100 --> 00:10:36,600 more, you know, I have fond memories of that series that 199 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:39,900 they played with Cincinnati back in the early 1990s, with Bob, 200 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:42,300 Huggins was there. And that was, that was a really 201 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:45,100 kind of curious series, and it's like, wow, I wish we got more 202 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,500 stuff like that. It's always kind of 203 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:49,700 historically. Been Kentucky Louisville Butler, 204 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,900 nor Dame but you miss out on the Xavier's and the st. 205 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:55,900 Louis has and teams like that, that are in the neighborhood, 206 00:10:55,900 --> 00:10:58,400 but maybe you don't like bring them over dinner. 207 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:02,200 That often So yeah, love that, that games on there, and Xavier 208 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,500 could be sneaky good. I mean, they, they were pretty 209 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:06,700 good offensively last year all things considered. 210 00:11:06,700 --> 00:11:10,000 And if we go by Ken Pon, they're all like five spots worse than I 211 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,200 you, by the time, the season was over. 212 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,500 And of course they won the NIT, a weird game. 213 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:21,000 Following that two days later in your backyard up at whatever, 214 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,400 they're calling it a Banker's Life or what is it called? 215 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:27,500 Now, the bridge Fieldhouse game game bird field house. 216 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:29,900 Yes, feel like coal. And heard is going to come in 217 00:11:29,900 --> 00:11:31,700 and like, you know, throw a brick through my window if I 218 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:35,000 don't get the name right. But but if they play Miami of 219 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:39,400 Ohio in Indianapolis, and this is what that we used to have 220 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,400 these one-off odd games in India, all the time and, you 221 00:11:42,408 --> 00:11:45,000 know, it's a way for indeed fans who, you know, don't want to 222 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,300 make that spooky drive that you all complain about that to come 223 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:51,000 down to Bloomington and back to, we have the Hoosier classic. 224 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,600 Like they're used. Are the Indiana classic. 225 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,400 What we can be a good thing. Who's your classic was an indie? 226 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:56,900 The Indiana classic was in Bloomington? 227 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:58,900 Yes, I remember the years we had both of minutes. 228 00:11:59,100 --> 00:12:01,600 We have these weird little to team tournaments for night was 229 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,900 like yeah we're not gonna go to Vegas or we're not gonna go to 230 00:12:04,900 --> 00:12:07,800 Hawaii, we're just going to play an Indian Bloomington and we 231 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,300 have a UTEP in those. And we have like there were not 232 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,500 they were not pushover School. Stanford was in it one year and 233 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:14,300 the 89. Yeah. 234 00:12:14,300 --> 00:12:17,300 And, you know, it's interesting because Miami of Ohio was pretty 235 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:19,000 bad last year and they lost a lot. 236 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,000 They were, they were one of the worst defensive teams in the 237 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,000 country. But, you know, overall, nice 238 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:27,100 test that. I like the fact that it's, you 239 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:28,900 know, it's the Sunday after that Xavier. 240 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,400 Our game on Friday. So they're going to do the 241 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,000 Xavier game and it's kind of a tournament turn around at that 242 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:34,400 point. So, you know, that's, that's a 243 00:12:34,408 --> 00:12:37,300 nice prep. They get a couple days off and 244 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:39,400 then they get a couple more games in Bloomington. 245 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,200 One of them against Little Rock as you know, and again, this is 246 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,600 a team that's kind of been on the periphery of things for a 247 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:50,100 while. Now obviously Chris beard coach 248 00:12:50,100 --> 00:12:54,400 there a while back and, you know, this is a Little Rock team 249 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:58,500 that is, you know, has not been that great recently. 250 00:12:58,500 --> 00:13:01,300 They were 328th in Camp home. Last year, they were actually 251 00:13:01,300 --> 00:13:05,700 worse than Miami in terms of defense and, you know, they 252 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:08,200 don't bring a lot to the table. I expect that to kind of be a 253 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,800 walkover for this IU. Team Jackson State, that Friday. 254 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:15,200 Also a really bad team and then a few days off and then the big 255 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:18,700 one as I, you gets North Carolina again, are we like, 256 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:23,000 contractually obligated that you we have to play either North 257 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,400 Carolina or Duke at home in the ACC. 258 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,300 Big Ten challenge. I know there have been other 259 00:13:27,300 --> 00:13:30,400 teams but it feels Feels like every year it's either, 260 00:13:30,400 --> 00:13:32,700 duke-north Carolina, I'm not complaining, it just always 261 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:36,000 feels that way. Well, and I, again, we are a 262 00:13:36,008 --> 00:13:38,100 homer podcast. I'm assuming most people 263 00:13:38,100 --> 00:13:41,700 listening to this, or relative IU fan, so I can be a bit Homer 264 00:13:41,700 --> 00:13:45,600 ish, but this is where I will say, you know, we can and I've 265 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:48,800 been guilty of this too. That, you know, we're not living 266 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,300 up to expectations and we're not, you know, a tier-one 267 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:56,100 Blueblood program, but it does seem like every year whenever 268 00:13:56,100 --> 00:14:00,900 Indiana has any kind of a pulse, It's like you know you know the 269 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:03,100 first year with you Marco Killingsworth have a bit of a 270 00:14:03,100 --> 00:14:05,800 pulse like hey we got Duke at home in the Big Ten ACC 271 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,100 challenge you know the year that you know, we were ranked. 272 00:14:09,100 --> 00:14:13,200 Yeah we beat Kansas. You know we started the year 273 00:14:13,208 --> 00:14:16,400 doing okay we do g and an OB it's like then we had UNC that 274 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,800 year in the Big Ten ACC Challenge and this year you know 275 00:14:18,808 --> 00:14:21,400 we're projected to be the best team in the Big Ten we get U and 276 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,400 C. So it like for all you know, for 277 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,000 all those people who you know, any other fan of the listening 278 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,700 to this it's like this is why we do know that we are kind of the 279 00:14:29,700 --> 00:14:32,700 cream of the Big Ten is because any time we have any kind of a 280 00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:35,300 pulse. It's like we don't draw Virginia 281 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:38,600 Tech or, you know, Syracuse like we're drawing North Carolina or 282 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,000 were drawing Duke. The only time that it didn't 283 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,400 quite work is like one of those first cream years. 284 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,600 It was like, Hey, we're going to send you to Cameron and watch. 285 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,100 You just get completely annihilated. 286 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:52,100 But no every time. Yeah, we're halfway good, we 287 00:14:52,100 --> 00:14:55,500 draw the like we draw one of these two teams in the ACC, as 288 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:58,900 opposed to Purdue, who draws, Clemson or Florida State or two. 289 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:00,900 Right now, right now. Yeah. 290 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,100 And I know Indiana Drew Florida State. 291 00:15:03,100 --> 00:15:05,100 I'm just joking. Calm down, Purdue people. 292 00:15:05,100 --> 00:15:06,800 You get guys, get so uptight about everything. 293 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:08,400 It's crazy. But anyway, that'll be a fun 294 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:11,600 game. Indiana, North Carolina, it's 295 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:13,400 possible. Neither of these teams will be 296 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,000 as good as people think that they are. 297 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,300 It's possible Indiana's, not the best team in the Big Ten. 298 00:15:17,300 --> 00:15:18,900 And even if they are, they may struggle. 299 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:22,900 It's possible that North Carolina, making that run, you 300 00:15:22,900 --> 00:15:26,200 know, to the to the national title game is not a harbinger of 301 00:15:26,208 --> 00:15:28,200 them being able to put together a full season. 302 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:30,800 That was a pretty quick. Questionable team for most of 303 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:33,300 last year, in terms of even getting into the tournament. 304 00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:36,300 But still it's one of those games where you kind of throw 305 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:40,500 the records out the window, because it's going to be fun and 306 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,400 right in the middle of the week, almost certainly a 9, or 9:30 307 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,900 p.m. tip. So, late night question for 308 00:15:46,900 --> 00:15:49,300 everybody here, starting about question for you though. 309 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,500 Yes. So in, I'm just going to go off 310 00:15:52,500 --> 00:15:56,100 of ESPN's way too. Early top, 25 standings today to 311 00:15:56,100 --> 00:16:00,600 get to, to get to my question here, North, Lana is ranked 1 in 312 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,600 that game. The end question is going to be 313 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,200 this. What do you project the rankings 314 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,100 of Indiana and North Carolina into that game? 315 00:16:09,100 --> 00:16:11,200 I will tell you that North Carolina starts the season, 316 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:15,300 possibly one, two or three but their games are unc-wilmington 317 00:16:15,300 --> 00:16:20,300 sharp Charleston, Gardner-Webb James, Madison Portland and then 318 00:16:20,300 --> 00:16:23,300 they come to Indiana. So they have a relatively easy 319 00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:28,100 Runway before they get to us the way too early top 25 has 320 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:30,700 Indiana. At at 15. 321 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:34,000 So based on those things based on our schedules, do you think 322 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:35,700 both teams are undefeated? And what do you think the 323 00:16:35,700 --> 00:16:37,100 rankings are coming into that game? 324 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:39,400 It's tough. I wouldn't be surprised if 325 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,000 Indiana had one loss. I mean, I think losing Xavier is 326 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,200 definitely a possibility. I think, for the sake of this 327 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,800 argument, I think both teams will come in undefeated. 328 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:53,500 And I think that, you know, I could see if Indiana's if 329 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,700 Indiana is undefeated. I think they probably come into 330 00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:59,500 the game ranked like my eighth or ninth and I think Any North 331 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:03,200 Carolina, as you mentioned by virtue of where their ranking is 332 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:08,099 is probably ranked number one and because they will have done 333 00:17:08,099 --> 00:17:09,500 nothing. They're not going to lose to any 334 00:17:09,500 --> 00:17:11,300 of those teams that you just rattled off. 335 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:14,800 So yeah that would be so be a top-10 matchup basically 336 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,900 provided I use able to hold up their end of the bargain and 337 00:17:17,900 --> 00:17:19,800 that's pretty exciting. That's a that's a really 338 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,099 intriguing matchup that's going to get a lot of attention. 339 00:17:22,099 --> 00:17:24,900 That's the that's the Marquis game that ESPN's looking for. 340 00:17:25,500 --> 00:17:28,300 Yeah, that's gonna be fun. I think that's going to be a fun 341 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:28,800 night. Eh. 342 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:31,400 A fun atmosphere? Yeah. 343 00:17:31,900 --> 00:17:35,300 Do you think probably? Yeah, I think so. 344 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,200 The number of people who have called me asking for tickets and 345 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:42,300 I'd like what who do you think I know that I could like, I'm 346 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:45,100 gonna Divine ticket that game? You know. 347 00:17:45,100 --> 00:17:49,000 It's like if you want to be fair every time you seem to move down 348 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,800 closer better like your seats have gotten so good and it's 349 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,600 you're like I don't know how. Then next thing I know you're 350 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,700 still on the bench or you're in the new Stan section or it was 351 00:17:56,700 --> 00:17:58,400 fun. That was a good time anyway. 352 00:17:58,500 --> 00:18:02,400 So This is where the schedule really picks up for Indiana. 353 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,300 I mean, you figure, you know, Xavier is kind of the one tough 354 00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:10,100 Island in November, but then the moment that North Carolina game 355 00:18:10,100 --> 00:18:13,500 hits, their next game is Saturday, and I got to go to 356 00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:17,600 Piscataway to take on Rutgers, which has been essentially. 357 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:20,800 It's become the new Williams arena for IU. 358 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:25,100 It feels like like it is taken over for the barn, the rack not 359 00:18:25,100 --> 00:18:29,400 a friendly place to play and you know, it's like You can look at 360 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:33,400 Rutgers and you can say well it's it's probably not going to 361 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,500 be as good of a Rutgers team as it was last year. 362 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:40,900 You know, they lose Ron Harper. They lose Geo Baker. 363 00:18:40,900 --> 00:18:45,300 I believe, you know, they think Caleb McConnell's gone as well, 364 00:18:45,700 --> 00:18:49,500 but got to have such a great coach in Steve pikul like he has 365 00:18:49,500 --> 00:18:51,600 proven. I think over and over again, 366 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:53,100 that he's able to do more with less. 367 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,000 I'm just really fascinated to see what this Rutgers team ends 368 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,800 up doing. Because at this point, it's 369 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,400 Like, you know, they've made the tournament two years in a row 370 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:06,500 and they did that largely because they had two, those two 371 00:19:06,500 --> 00:19:09,400 players I mentioned right at the beginning, Baker and Ron Harper, 372 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:12,800 those guys being gone, that is probably going to set them back 373 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:14,500 a little bit. And while you hate having to 374 00:19:14,500 --> 00:19:18,200 travel to Piscataway right after playing North Carolina, 375 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,600 especially if you win, like, that's a tough emotional, High 376 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,300 to come down from your, this might be the right time to catch 377 00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:28,100 Rutgers their first Big Ten game as they're trying to get their 378 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:31,100 legs under Her them. I just it's hard to get really 379 00:19:31,100 --> 00:19:34,300 excited about Indiana's chances in that game, given how badly 380 00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:38,200 they've played on the road there in recent times and Rutgers 381 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,800 might be coming in with just one loss. 382 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,800 And it was wild as they play all their games before that at home, 383 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:45,600 except for the ACC game at Miami. 384 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,900 So every other game Colombia sacred sacred, heart UMass, 385 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:52,400 Lowell Temple, writer Central Connecticut, and then at Miami. 386 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,200 So I mean, there are eight of their first nine. 387 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,400 It looks like a ride home. Yeah, it's not great. 388 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,300 You know. But hey, look, you wanted you 389 00:20:01,308 --> 00:20:04,500 want to challenges and you want to win the Big Ten like that's 390 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:07,800 the kind of game you're going to have to win and so you know if 391 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,800 you get done and that's something that I timing will go 392 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,500 through the like we're going through this but you know, I 393 00:20:13,508 --> 00:20:15,800 talked a little bit about this coupling assembly call. 394 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,200 It's like, you know, we do have to change our mindset as fans a 395 00:20:19,208 --> 00:20:21,300 little bit too. Like if we're going to compete 396 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:24,100 for a top three or four or, you know, people are talking about 397 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:25,900 winning the Big Ten, but you just want to say you want to be 398 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:29,200 a top three team in the Big Ten. These are the Games. 399 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,600 You have you got to basically win both of these games. 400 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:35,600 Like yeah, it's not easy but the schedule gets immensely harder 401 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,400 at the back end and you can't put yourself in a hole if you 402 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,700 expect to be really competing for a Big Ten title. 403 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:45,400 So it's like, this is where, you know, you're a team that has 404 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,400 expectations and expectations means that you don't get to be 405 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,300 suddenly like at Rutgers is too tough of a putt for us. 406 00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:54,100 Like no, you got to win pretty much this and the Nebraska game, 407 00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:55,300 right? Yeah. 408 00:20:55,300 --> 00:20:57,800 It's it's an it's an inch got. We've got four off. 409 00:20:57,800 --> 00:21:01,200 Still be coach in Nebraska. This time, I'm not sure he might 410 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,800 be coaching Nebraska, basketball, that might be good. 411 00:21:03,900 --> 00:21:06,900 That might be the way that they get out, of paying him to buy 412 00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:08,200 out. It's like, hey, Scott 413 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,700 reassignment, we're gonna. What do you, do you like the 414 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:14,800 whatever they're gonna remember what their arena is called? 415 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,500 But anyway, the Indiana gets Nebraska at home that game after 416 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,900 I mean, Nebraska was really bad last year. 417 00:21:21,900 --> 00:21:25,700 It's hard to see them taking a big leap forward this year and 418 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,600 it's and I guess it's a decent consolation prize for Anna that 419 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,100 that's their home game. They get a little bit of cushion 420 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:34,000 there. As you know they got to play 421 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,600 that game very shortly after they play that game on the 422 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,400 Wednesday of following, that weeks that's December 7th. 423 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:44,500 Then they hit the road again for a neutral site game in Las Vegas 424 00:21:44,500 --> 00:21:48,300 against Arizona. And I mean, I'm going to this 425 00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:50,000 game. You're going to this game, we're 426 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,000 excited about this. We might be doing some stuff 427 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:55,100 with the fans out. There will be get ready. 428 00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:56,600 They'll be, they'll be some pot, they'll be some stuff while 429 00:21:56,600 --> 00:21:59,800 you're how I want to keep a little bit of No, I don't want 430 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,200 the fans to get too comfortable. You know, I mean, if they just 431 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,500 expect that, we're going to be doing things with them, then 432 00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:07,200 then, you know what's next? We can't, we can't have 433 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,800 complacency in the Crimson cast fandom here, but but man, you 434 00:22:11,808 --> 00:22:14,500 know what a game and what it again. 435 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,500 So many people have talked about how much this feels like a 436 00:22:18,500 --> 00:22:21,700 different type of Indiana schedule, like, it is clearly 437 00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:26,200 set up in a way that is meant to test Indiana, early and often. 438 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,800 And this is what, we're just trying to go to all the teams. 439 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:31,100 Sean Miller coached that's like, where else is he coached at? 440 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:37,500 We're not playing games a complaint or something like that 441 00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:38,700 that we could tie. That's funny. 442 00:22:39,300 --> 00:22:41,500 You know, the, in this Arizona team is really a fascinating 443 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:45,200 team because they were not particularly old team last year, 444 00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:49,400 only one senior on the roster that they lost, you know, a 445 00:22:49,408 --> 00:22:51,900 couple of guys to the draft. Obviously mathurin is no longer 446 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:56,300 there but they only lost four games all year including the 447 00:22:56,300 --> 00:23:00,100 NCAA tournament and you know, this was a team I'm that they 448 00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:03,400 want on the road at Illinois last year, they, they blew out 449 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,100 Michigan on a neutral Court. Last year, they've beaten 450 00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:10,400 Wichita State on a neutral Court last year, and they just ran 451 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,300 through the Pac-12. They were 18 and 2 in the 452 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:15,100 conference, they won the Pac-12 title, you know. 453 00:23:15,100 --> 00:23:19,000 So, I think, Tommy Lloyd, slid, right in and did a lot of really 454 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,000 good things with a program. That a lot of people were like, 455 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,100 you know, where are you going with this? 456 00:23:23,100 --> 00:23:25,900 I mean, the previous year under the last year in the Sean 457 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:27,700 Miller, there were 17 and 9 and the year before that. 458 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:30,000 They were 21 and 11. Your before that they were 17 459 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,100 and 15. So to go thirty three and four 460 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,400 out of the blue, that's a, you know, even if they have lost 461 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:39,100 some big pieces, that's a really good game for IU to have to turn 462 00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:42,200 around and play. And I don't know what they're 463 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,500 going to do in that game. I think I you that they haven't 464 00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:48,000 played in a lot of these types of games, specially 465 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,800 back-to-back. I think Arizona is probably got 466 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,400 the nod here, just because they have played in those 467 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,700 environments, but we'll have to see how both teams are playing 468 00:23:55,700 --> 00:24:00,200 going into that 11 in. I wonder, I don't know if this 469 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:04,000 is right, this is going off of ESPN's, Arizona, schedule of 470 00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:07,900 this will only be Arizona's fifth game, I think they're in. 471 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:10,100 It's her 10th game. I think they're in a tournament 472 00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:14,700 and I don't have the actual brackets up, but I believe they 473 00:24:14,700 --> 00:24:17,800 are in a tournament in the preseason so that's why okay, 474 00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:20,700 even if that's only three yeah you add two more. 475 00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:23,900 They've only, they will have only played six games and right 476 00:24:23,900 --> 00:24:27,500 now they have four games listed and Indiana be their fists. 477 00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:30,600 So if one of those You figure maybe two or three more games, 478 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,800 but still you're you're looking at Indiana to again. 479 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,400 I don't know if this is good or bad but just something to think 480 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,600 about, you know, this will be Indiana's 10th game. 481 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,400 It'll be Arizona's. Call it like six or seven, you 482 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,000 know, so, just take that back on there and it's worth. 483 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,300 I don't know if all they're tired hairdo us so they'll be, 484 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:50,400 they are going to Maui, so they get, they get Cincinnati in that 485 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,300 first game. They'll get either Ohio State, 486 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:54,200 or San Diego State in the second game. 487 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,100 And then we're, who knows who they'll get in game three. 488 00:24:57,100 --> 00:25:00,400 It really depends on a lot of things, so, So it's nice because 489 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,500 I mean, you know, they have, they have a pretty low-key lead 490 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:07,200 into that, but we're going to get a lot of looks at what 491 00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,600 Arizona is doing against some decent competition. 492 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,100 I mean, if they play Cincinnati and then Ohio State back to back 493 00:25:13,100 --> 00:25:15,400 or even if a Place, San Diego State for that matter who's the 494 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,700 other team that they might play in the second round, that's 495 00:25:17,700 --> 00:25:20,400 going to give us a pretty good sense of what we're looking at 496 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,500 with that one. So, but yeah Point. 497 00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:26,100 Well taken and they have kind of an easier path in terms of their 498 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:28,400 Pac-12 opponents because they also play too. 499 00:25:28,900 --> 00:25:30,200 Games against conference opponents. 500 00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:35,200 Before that Indiana game, then Kansas which is another game 501 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,700 everybody's looking forward to that game is a week later, 502 00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:42,400 Saturday, the 17th in Lawrence. I think I'm planning on going to 503 00:25:42,408 --> 00:25:45,300 that, I'm planning on going to that to first time, Indiana's 504 00:25:45,300 --> 00:25:50,200 traveled to Lawrence, since I think 1993 that was that, that 505 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,700 that famous game, where Jacque Vaughn, hit that, like twenty 506 00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:56,000 six foot three pointer. I've got that game up on 507 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,700 YouTube. For those of you who want to 508 00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:01,200 punish yourselves, but you know, fun fun game. 509 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,900 I'm excited about that one. You know, Kansas somehow 510 00:26:04,900 --> 00:26:09,600 inexplicably has weathered another storm of allegations and 511 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,100 so on and so forth. And Bill self is still there 512 00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:15,500 last, I checked and they've they are the defending national 513 00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:19,300 champions. So you've got a fascinating 514 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:22,300 thing where Indiana is going to go into a hostile environment. 515 00:26:22,300 --> 00:26:27,000 A place that Kansas lost a grand total of one game last year. 516 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:32,000 And that was to Kentucky of all Eames, you know, but swept the 517 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,600 rest of the time that it's going to be a challenge for Indiana in 518 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,300 this Kansas game, but that's good. 519 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,000 This is the type of game as we talked about. 520 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000 Same thing with the Arizona game, these do not hurt you, you 521 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,700 lose on a neutral Court to Arizona, it doesn't hurt you, 522 00:26:44,900 --> 00:26:48,000 you lose on the road to Kansas it doesn't hurt you. 523 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,300 Like those are going to be looked at as good games 524 00:26:50,300 --> 00:26:54,400 regardless by the the selection committee and frankly even buys 525 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,200 long as you're not getting blown out by 30, they're going to 526 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:58,700 reflect pretty well in the power rankings. 527 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:02,500 Ins as well. One thing I like about this is 528 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,700 we're doing a home and home. Like, I love that we are playing 529 00:27:05,700 --> 00:27:08,900 in Lawrence, you know? And this would be something if, 530 00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:10,800 you know, Scott, Dawson's listening, first off, scott, 531 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,800 thanks for listening. We'll see you in Vegas, second 532 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,100 thing. It's like, let's do more. 533 00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:18,000 Like let's be the team that you. I feel like Kentucky does a lot 534 00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:20,700 of early season tournament, but they're like always neutral site 535 00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:22,500 team like they're just, we're doing a 14 tournament. 536 00:27:22,500 --> 00:27:23,800 We're doing neutral sites, you know. 537 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,700 Michigan state is always, we're going to play on an aircraft 538 00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:27,100 carrier. We're going to play on the moon 539 00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:29,300 like they're going to play in places that are not basketball 540 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:31,200 venue. Use, I love if we're like, Hey 541 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,200 we're the team that's going to go into other will do home and 542 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:37,900 homes like because I feel like not a lot of the top, tier teams 543 00:27:37,900 --> 00:27:40,300 are playing home on homes, maybe just be hard to schedule. 544 00:27:40,300 --> 00:27:44,300 But I do really enjoy that. We're playing this in Lawrence 545 00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:47,100 and not like, in Kansas City in St, Louis or something. 546 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:49,900 Like I'll end knowing that, it probably means it's an L. 547 00:27:49,900 --> 00:27:53,300 Like it sprouts, it makes it a much tougher environment, but it 548 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:55,300 also means they get to come into Assembly Hall. 549 00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:59,100 That's awesome. But I really like us playing on 550 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,300 home. It's like this. 551 00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:02,700 So I hope we continue to see more of these high-level 552 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:04,600 opponents on home court. That's the thing. 553 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,000 I mean, you know, look there were exceptions on all of this 554 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,400 but I just I do love the fact that I use like, let's go and 555 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,300 play people at places. It's good in the long run and I 556 00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:16,800 do think that that'll make a difference, not just in the NCAA 557 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,100 tournament, that will make a difference in the Big Ten to 558 00:28:19,100 --> 00:28:23,400 because when the toughest game you've played away from home 559 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:28,500 prior to having to travel to Iowa is, oh, you know, we played 560 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:32,000 in Conseco Fieldhouse. Old house or you know we played 561 00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:35,500 game Bridge in game yet. Sorry gain versus told her to 562 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:39,500 get that brick out again. Um you know or you know, you go 563 00:28:39,500 --> 00:28:42,700 back. You look at like what was it in 564 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:47,700 1901? Oh sorry. 2018 like Indiana 565 00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:49,800 played at Seton Hall. They got waxed. 566 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,600 That didn't really help that team certainly but it's like you 567 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,700 need more of those types of games to try to condition your 568 00:28:55,700 --> 00:28:59,300 team and as long as your team's good and you know, that they can 569 00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:01,800 handle. Let even a loss can be helpful 570 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,800 As you move forward. Anyway, moving on, Indiana gets 571 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:07,100 a little bit of a break that come back. 572 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:09,300 A couple days later they get Elon at home. 573 00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:12,800 That's I think a game. Indiana should win easily to get 574 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:18,900 Kennesaw State in the Pam Witten, Classic on the 23rd and 575 00:29:18,900 --> 00:29:22,100 then the Big 10 starts basically. 576 00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:24,800 Well, several days later there's a bit of a gap there, but they 577 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,000 take on Iowa at Iowa. City on January 5th. 578 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,300 What is it? Why are we? 579 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:32,100 Again there we contractually obligated that we have to play 580 00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:33,900 at Iowa. The first week of January. 581 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:37,800 I feel like that is always when that game is and I know it's not 582 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,900 but it feels that way and I get annoyed by it because it always, 583 00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:44,000 I can't remember the last time Indiana won in Iowa City that 584 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,700 early in the season. Yeah, it's not a good, not a 585 00:29:47,708 --> 00:29:50,000 good game for us, but what's interesting, is, then for the 586 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,600 rest of January, not to get too far ahead, but you get this 587 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:58,900 weird wet, Thursday, Sunday, Wednesday, Saturday setup, where 588 00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:00,900 basically the entire month of January. 589 00:30:01,100 --> 00:30:05,000 If we play on Thursday, we then play on Sunday at home, or we 590 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,000 play on, Wednesday on the road and then we play on Saturday, so 591 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,300 it just oscillates. We go Thursday some day 592 00:30:10,500 --> 00:30:13,600 Wednesday, Saturday, Thursday, Sunday, Wednesday, Saturday, all 593 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,600 road games during the week. And all home games during the 594 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,800 weekend. But everything is a two and a 595 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,200 half, two and a half day break. Yeah. 596 00:30:22,900 --> 00:30:27,600 It's a, it's a weird thing. But, I mean, there's some Purdue 597 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,700 fan was complaining on Twitter about o. 598 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,200 Indiana didn't have to play on Mondays. 599 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,200 It's like, seriously, like Indiana's. 600 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,200 Got the the I think the fifth toughest schedule in the 601 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,300 conference. It's it's going to be the Big 602 00:30:38,300 --> 00:30:40,300 Ten West and football shut. Yeah, shut up. 603 00:30:40,300 --> 00:30:42,000 Yeah, you lose? You lose. 604 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,700 Literally all anything everything by just simply At 605 00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:48,600 anyway. So it's it's going to be an 606 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,200 interesting schedule to say the least because it's just 607 00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:55,800 unrelenting and this is one of those things where even with IU 608 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,300 is the top dog in the conference, you know, in the 609 00:30:58,300 --> 00:31:02,400 preseason. It's just, it's a tough row to 610 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:07,200 hoe because I, you ultimately is, is going to have to face a 611 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,200 lot of tough teams and a lot of tough spots. 612 00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:11,700 They didn't get any favors with the home in a way. 613 00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:15,000 So kind of rattling through these Northwestern at home. 614 00:31:15,300 --> 00:31:18,500 Following week, they get at Penn State that week after that, you 615 00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:22,300 get Wisconsin at home the week after the next game and then 616 00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:24,500 you're at Illinois. Well, that's it's like, 617 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,300 Wisconsin homes. Never great. 618 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:28,600 And then you got to go to Illinois. 619 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,300 That's a very tough place to play. 620 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,800 The next slate of games. You get Michigan State at home. 621 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,400 You're at Minnesota, Ohio, State at home at Maryland. 622 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,200 That's, that's a, that's a tricky quatrain of games. 623 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,300 Then you get Purdue at home, Rutgers at home. 624 00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:49,100 And then at An at Northwestern Illinois at home and then you 625 00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:53,200 finish off at Michigan State at Purdue Iowa at home and miss, 626 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:58,100 and Michigan at home. So, it's a, there's a lot there 627 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,000 to try to break down, you know, you don't get Maryland at home. 628 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,400 That's a tough one to only play them on the road. 629 00:32:05,300 --> 00:32:07,500 You know, there's a couple of other teams like that where 630 00:32:07,500 --> 00:32:09,500 you're just like gosh it would have been great to have had that 631 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:12,100 team twice rather than just once. 632 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,900 But I mean look overall, I'm you know, Every year. 633 00:32:15,900 --> 00:32:19,400 I feel like the same way about I use Big Ten, basketball 634 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,600 schedule. That I feel about the way you 635 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,600 and I pick. I use football schedule. 636 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,000 We are literally always wrong and how many games Indiana wins, 637 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,100 and losses, and what games they win or lose. 638 00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:32,700 There's so much unpredictability. 639 00:32:32,900 --> 00:32:35,500 But I mean, you have any overall thoughts on how this schedule 640 00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:38,900 shapes up. Yeah, males going back. 641 00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:44,100 And, and on CBS Sports, I just had one quick search, looking at 642 00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:47,100 their big 10 preview. You for last season at this 643 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,200 time, in the same year, you know, we were ranked ahead of 644 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,000 Wisconsin and Iowa and their breakdown of Wisconsin. 645 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,800 They don't mention Johnny Davis and their breakdown of Iowa, 646 00:32:55,900 --> 00:32:57,100 they don't mention Keegan Marine. 647 00:32:57,100 --> 00:33:01,700 I'm not saying this is one point of reference but it just it does 648 00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:05,300 beg to give everybody a break, you know, look at this. 649 00:33:05,300 --> 00:33:08,300 Where yes, the homeowner way is top that we really don't have 650 00:33:08,300 --> 00:33:10,200 two home games until the end of the Earth. 651 00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:13,100 I guess, Purdue Rutgers and February, but it's kind of home 652 00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:16,300 away, home away and then you end with that, You know, at Michigan 653 00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:19,500 at Northwestern Illinois at home at Michigan State at Purdue, it 654 00:33:19,500 --> 00:33:23,500 looks rough but it's really tough to look at this without 655 00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:26,300 knowing like who who's the team going to be? 656 00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:29,100 That comes up that were like wow I was not expecting that. 657 00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:30,500 You know? Is it is it Rutgers? 658 00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:31,700 Is it? You know? 659 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,800 Is it Purdue? Is it who knows who's the team 660 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,800 that we think is going to be good? 661 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,300 Is it Illinois where it's like they suck? 662 00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:38,100 Or they're just they're not as good as we expected. 663 00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:40,900 So there's going to be some variance there and I don't think 664 00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:43,900 it's it's so it's very tough to be like well you know it's tough 665 00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:46,500 to play Illinois and Come back against Mitch, I know what the, 666 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,600 what I did is he was going to look like, but my main thoughts 667 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,300 is the Home in a way, it's just quirky. 668 00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:57,100 And then, it seems like at the very end, it just gets very away 669 00:33:57,100 --> 00:34:00,600 heavy on a lot of teams that, you know, look tough. 670 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,500 But you have these kind of bookends where you played 671 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:05,300 Michigan twice in like, you know, five weeks. 672 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,699 It feels like that's an important slate of games. 673 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,400 You have that, you know, home game against Illinois, and 674 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,600 February 18th. You look at that as like, that 675 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,699 could be a A really key game and those are kind of my main 676 00:34:18,699 --> 00:34:24,100 thoughts but I did think it was interesting that there's no long 677 00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:27,300 breaks for this team. When the Big Ten season starts 678 00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:30,699 and it does seem to be very rhythmic in that, you're kind of 679 00:34:30,707 --> 00:34:33,900 doing this, like I said before, is everything is two and a half 680 00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:36,000 days apart for, basically, a month and a half. 681 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,600 And so, it does feel like if you can kind of, if Woodson of the 682 00:34:39,607 --> 00:34:43,199 staff can get the team kind of keyed up to like, all right, you 683 00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,900 know, where I do think sometimes you can get Weird spot. 684 00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:48,699 Like last year we had that Purdue game and it's like you 685 00:34:48,707 --> 00:34:50,300 turn around two days later. You're playing Michigan. 686 00:34:50,300 --> 00:34:52,199 It's like, it's just that the team was a whack. 687 00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,300 It's like the other week off. So the next game and you kind of 688 00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:55,600 have these like Peaks and valleys. 689 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,400 It's like chunky and spiky and I do think there's a way that you 690 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,800 can you can probably get this team kind of like. 691 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:02,400 All right we're going to Peak and then we're going to Valley 692 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,200 and then we're going to Pete. Like we have a rhythm with the 693 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,000 schedule from a day-to-day point of view that I do think is might 694 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,900 be able to put this team on kind of a spot where they can reel 695 00:35:12,900 --> 00:35:14,300 off. Seven, eight, nine in a row. 696 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,100 Yeah. That's the gonna be the big 697 00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:22,400 question and look, I think this is not the strongest Big Ten 698 00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:24,600 that we've ever seen and I think if Indiana is going to be the 699 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,500 strongest team in the conference, it's really at this 700 00:35:28,500 --> 00:35:30,100 point. Just knowing what we know about 701 00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:34,700 Indiana at this stage and yes, they could get better but this 702 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:36,700 is not going to be. This is not a national 703 00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:40,300 championship contending, Indiana team and I hope I mean, could 704 00:35:40,300 --> 00:35:41,800 it, could they win a National Title? 705 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,300 I'll be sure. I mean, North Carolina was 706 00:35:43,300 --> 00:35:45,100 literally one game away from winning a national title. 707 00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:47,600 Despite not having a very good season, it's all about when you 708 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,500 catch fire and if you get the right breaks, you know, so I 709 00:35:51,500 --> 00:35:55,800 would not expect Indiana or any team in the Big Ten this year 710 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,600 to, like go 18 and 2 in conference play or anything like 711 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,600 that. But going through the schedule 712 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,000 and I'm not sure if you've gone through and like tabulated your 713 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,100 wins and losses yet or anything like that. 714 00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:10,600 Scott, I haven't that's fine. We'll save yours till later my 715 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,300 preliminary read on this. Seeing everything, the way that 716 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:18,100 it's set up is Indiana. Going 14 and 6 in the conference 717 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,700 and 23 and eighth overall. You know, I think that that is 718 00:36:23,100 --> 00:36:25,100 very, very good. That's a very that would be I 719 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:29,200 would if I could sign a contract right now that said yes you're 720 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,100 going to go 23 and 8 and 14 and 6. 721 00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:35,200 I think tell me where to put the pain, seriously my loss is right 722 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:41,600 now for IU in conference would be at Iowa at Maryland, at 723 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:47,900 Michigan at Michigan State at Purdue and And I don't know. 724 00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:51,000 I think I missed that one. Now, that's probably Indiana's, 725 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,500 probably not running the table at home and they're probably not 726 00:36:53,500 --> 00:36:56,700 also losing all six of the road games that I just mentioned. 727 00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:59,800 So, you know, your mileage may vary on where the losses come 728 00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,300 from. But I think 14 and 6 would be a 729 00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:06,600 great record for IU given how they struggle to even get over. 730 00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:10,600 500 in conference play. Basically for the last decade or 731 00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,200 you know slightly less than the last decade. 2016 excluded of 732 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,700 course. But I You know that, you know, 733 00:37:16,700 --> 00:37:19,100 and I would throw in, I think they lose to Arizona, I think 734 00:37:19,100 --> 00:37:21,700 they lose to Kansas neither of those games are unwinnable. 735 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,700 But you know I think that if those are there to non 736 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:28,900 conference losses or if you drop one of those and you throw 737 00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:31,900 Xavier in a North Carolina and is one of them, even if they had 738 00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:35,300 like one more non-conference, I think it's entirely possible, 739 00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:38,600 this team finishes, the regular season with single digit losses, 740 00:37:38,700 --> 00:37:41,600 which would be a huge leap forward for IU. 741 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,800 And would mean that they not only played some really good 742 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,100 teams, but it beaten some of them as well. 743 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:49,300 And they could actually be a protected seed in the Big Ten 744 00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:50,400 Tournament. Like, hold my God. 745 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,100 Laughs, we could have a shot at wait. 746 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,800 Look, it's get. Just go ahead. 747 00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,900 I was gonna say, looking at schedules and just where teams 748 00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:01,400 could be. I know we're not a Michigan 749 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,700 State pop, but I just have to bring this up if you haven't 750 00:38:04,700 --> 00:38:07,500 looked at their schedule and we know that Michigan State 751 00:38:07,500 --> 00:38:10,600 schedules hard, but like, they could either. 752 00:38:11,100 --> 00:38:14,500 I wish we played them so early in the Big Ten because I think 753 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,600 they could be just completely off the rails like Schedule is 754 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,400 they play Northern Illinois. Okay then they play Gonzaga on a 755 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,100 aircraft carrier. They play Kentucky in. 756 00:38:24,100 --> 00:38:27,100 Indianapolis, they play Villanova in East Lansing, then 757 00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:29,800 they play Alabama in the Phil Knight Invitational, second 758 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,700 round, the play either Yukon and Oregon. 759 00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:34,600 If they win those, they could theoretically play Villanova 760 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,900 again or North Carolina and then they come back and play Notre 761 00:38:37,900 --> 00:38:39,300 Dame. I mean, that's the schedule 762 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:43,500 where they could literally be like two and seven going into, 763 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,300 you know, the game against Northwestern. 764 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,400 Yeah. It's It's interesting because 765 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,700 like, you know, last year was not a typical Michigan State 766 00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:51,800 team. They, you know, they made the 767 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,800 NCAA tournament which was typical but they struggle, they 768 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,100 didn't play that strong of a non-conference schedule. 769 00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:59,000 I mean, the two games they played against really good 770 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,200 competition. They they got boat raced in both 771 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,000 of those almost like they forgot to schedule. 772 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,400 Some of these last year's is put it all on this right, schedule. 773 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,800 Me, that's a, that's a murderer's, where there's, it 774 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,900 reminds me of you did a podcast talking about like Indiana's, 775 00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,300 90, 91 92, 92 93 season. It's like, you go through the 776 00:39:16,300 --> 00:39:18,500 schedule. It's like there's no like 777 00:39:18,500 --> 00:39:21,200 there's just no easy games. Like oh I Kentucky in the next 778 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:22,600 week. Oh the next week they played 779 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,800 Cincinnati was ranked fourth in the country and then it's like, 780 00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,500 oh they had UTEP but you might forget you tip was ranked 18th 781 00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,200 it every day was supposed ranked. 782 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,000 Like this is kind of anyway, who cares? 783 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,500 Others can stay, but it's just like this goes to the point like 784 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:35,800 Michigan State. I have faith. 785 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,500 That Israel will somehow turn it around, like he'll use this to 786 00:39:38,500 --> 00:39:42,000 make that team stronger, but this could, that could break it 787 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,200 to me, who knows what they're going to look like when you get 788 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,700 when you get to him in November. Yeah. 789 00:39:45,700 --> 00:39:48,100 Especially I mean And how weird the last few years have been for 790 00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:50,100 Michigan State and just covid and everything else. 791 00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:54,300 Just if they don't have that same head of steam that they've 792 00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:56,600 had every year when they've had those types of schedules and 793 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:57,600 have been able to deal with them. 794 00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,200 So yeah, I'm with you on that 100%. 795 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,100 And look, I really don't know what to expect out of the Big 796 00:40:03,100 --> 00:40:06,300 Ten this year, who's going to be good, you know, who's going to 797 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:09,400 struggle? You know, the there's a real 798 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,700 good likelihood. It's not going to be a great 799 00:40:10,700 --> 00:40:12,800 Wisconsin team. It's going to be a questionable, 800 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,200 Ohio State team produce going to certainly take a couple of steps 801 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,300 back. From, you know, their greatest 802 00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:20,400 season in history that they had last year. 803 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:26,700 And so there's just a lot of variables with this big tens and 804 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:28,400 IU is one of the big variables itself. 805 00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,600 I mean, last year wasn't great. It was good enough that they got 806 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,800 into the tournament barely, you know, they finally did something 807 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,400 in a postseason tournament. They want a couple of games in 808 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,400 the regular season but it's hard to say for sure. 809 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:45,300 Like yeah, Indiana's back. I mean, we got we got a question 810 00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:49,200 from our buddy, Ross. It for the for the podcast which 811 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,800 was basically looking at the IU basketball schedule, are we 812 00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,500 back? How long were we gone? 813 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,900 How long are we staying? Feel free to add any additional 814 00:40:56,900 --> 00:41:00,200 back commentary. I mean it you could look at this 815 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,500 the roster and say I use back, you can look at the schedule and 816 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:06,800 say I use got some problems coming up here because they've 817 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,500 got such a tough schedule. And that shouldn't feel unusual 818 00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:14,300 for IU fans, but it is because it's just not the way I use 819 00:41:14,300 --> 00:41:16,300 scheduled under the last couple of coaches. 820 00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:19,500 You know, so I think there's some uncertainty there and, you 821 00:41:19,500 --> 00:41:23,800 know, Matt Zimmerman chimed in on Twitter, it seems like 822 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,400 anything other than 0 and 3 against Arizona. 823 00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:30,400 USC, and Kansas would be a minor miracle. 824 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,100 Or is that just the - couch talking, which is an inside joke 825 00:41:33,100 --> 00:41:37,300 that I won't, I won't explain. But but, you know, they're out, 826 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:39,500 there is a thread where you look at this, and you're like, what 827 00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:42,200 am I going to beat? Yeah, I would say was a savior 828 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,200 in there. It's like, are they gonna go on 829 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,000 the road and beat Xavier? They gonna go on a neutral court 830 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,500 and beat Arizona? Zona they're going to be able to 831 00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:50,500 travel to Kansas again, to beat the number one team in the 832 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:53,600 country. If you could kind of give over 833 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,200 to negativity here and say that this team is, as been pumped up 834 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:01,400 two or three weight classes Beyond where they actually 835 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,800 should be. But that's kind of the beauty of 836 00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:09,500 this schedule is that even if they lose two or three or all 837 00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:13,900 four of those games in the non-conference, I think that's a 838 00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:16,000 good enough team, they're going to learn some things from that. 839 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,600 And About to what they're doing moving forward. 840 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,900 I also think there's I think this team did learn some things 841 00:42:22,900 --> 00:42:29,600 last year and it feels like they have coalesced around an idea 842 00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:32,300 about what they are as a team and how they're going to set 843 00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:35,200 things up and move forward. And now it's really just a 844 00:42:35,207 --> 00:42:36,800 matter of how they plug everything in. 845 00:42:37,300 --> 00:42:39,500 And I don't know if it's like, negativity to say well gosh 846 00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:41,100 they're good. They probably going to lose all 847 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:44,500 those big games anymore than it would be overly. 848 00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:46,500 Positive to say well yeah, they're going to win three or 849 00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,400 for or somehow win all four of them. 850 00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:53,300 The thing that concerns me about this schedule and I was 851 00:42:53,300 --> 00:42:54,800 Zimmerman to, I think we could go. 852 00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:57,600 Oh, and three in those games. I don't think that's, I don't 853 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,100 think that's a bad thing. I mean, you schedule, hard 854 00:43:00,100 --> 00:43:03,100 games, you're going to lose some of them and like I said, the 855 00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:05,900 Kansas game is going to be fun and playing it in Lawrence 856 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:08,200 basically, kind of guarantees that he'll, that's fine. 857 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,000 I mean like, it's fine, but play hard, get a good atmosphere. 858 00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,100 It's good stuff. You can learn the thing that 859 00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:16,400 makes a kind of referenced this earlier. 860 00:43:17,100 --> 00:43:20,700 You have to make hay early in this schedule because it does 861 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:22,700 get tougher. There's just more Road games on 862 00:43:22,707 --> 00:43:26,800 the back end that it tightens up the, you would assume that the 863 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,900 teams are playing in February and March or better. 864 00:43:30,100 --> 00:43:33,700 But you also have to remember this is a team that you know 865 00:43:33,700 --> 00:43:36,900 there's only one year of history with Mike Woodson but last year 866 00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:40,200 this team finished 2 and 7 in the Big Ten they played well to 867 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,300 start and they did not finish well and so and unfortunately 868 00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:46,800 the year before it's not fair it's a different coach but They 869 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,700 finished one and six and on a five-game losing streak in the 870 00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:51,600 Big Ten. This is a team that has a to 871 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,800 know, even the year before was kind of choppy. 872 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,200 But in 2020, they finished one and four, in their last five 873 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,900 games. The team that just has not 874 00:43:58,900 --> 00:44:03,800 finished the Big Ten strong in recent history and it's a 875 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,300 one-year sample size, but it is what it is. 876 00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,600 They didn't finish the Big Ten season strong Underwood's and 877 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:11,500 last year now they turned it around in the Big Ten 878 00:44:11,500 --> 00:44:15,000 Tournament, but they were kind of the wheels. 879 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,500 Were people have to remember Will we were in February, and 880 00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:20,000 March. Last year, with this team, we 881 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,700 were like the wheels were falling off. 882 00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:25,000 I remember Ron Harper, jr. Dropping his nuts on the, on the 883 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,200 floor at Assembly Hall. Like it was not a good situation 884 00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,700 and we were losing, you know, we lost five in a row. 885 00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:37,800 So this is this all goes to, you know, it does seem a little bit 886 00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:43,300 easier early, you have to make hay early, because a lot of 887 00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:45,400 things like we've been talking about with football, a lot of 888 00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,000 signs point, a A certain way, a lot of you know the everything 889 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,600 with his team is like they're going to probably struggle later 890 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,700 in February and March there just isn't that institutional history 891 00:44:56,700 --> 00:45:00,200 of us going on tears and February and March. 892 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,900 So if you assume we're going to be choppy and you assume the 893 00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:06,600 schedule makes it even choppier. It's like you've got to we're 894 00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,800 here because tomorrow we tough but you gotta win games at 895 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,600 Rutgers. Yeah. 896 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:14,300 No, absolutely. It's it's it's that that's the 897 00:45:14,308 --> 00:45:17,000 kind of thing that has to happen and all To look. 898 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,800 It's what we'll see. We'll just have to see what 899 00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:24,100 happens as we go through things. But anyway, we'll we'll keep an 900 00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:27,500 eye on things obviously as we get closer to the sketch or the 901 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,900 beginning of the Season lot too. I guess toss back and forth on 902 00:45:31,900 --> 00:45:36,600 this stuff but it's cool to be in a position where Indiana is, 903 00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:40,300 you know, at least going to be considered among the top teams 904 00:45:40,300 --> 00:45:42,900 in the conference. Yes. 905 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,600 There's I love that. There's fun games to, I mean, 906 00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,900 this is the first time Time in years, you and I have been like, 907 00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:51,200 talking about traveling. You know, I was, let's go to 908 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,200 Vegas, let's go to Lawrence. Like I mean there's and I had 909 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,800 multiple friends of mine, asking me for going to go to Vegas my 910 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,500 buddy, but I mentioned a couple times Teddy who lives out in 911 00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:02,200 l.a., he's going to meet up with us in Vegas. 912 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,600 He's coming out. Like I have friend, a lot of 913 00:46:04,607 --> 00:46:06,200 people around here. Like you're going to Vegas gate. 914 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,200 Like it's been a while since we've had a at least a team. 915 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,200 You know relatively good enough you want to see it but also 916 00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,500 locales that are fun to go to and that people want to go and 917 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,500 See us. I think that's that's if even if 918 00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:21,900 we don't you know, win the Big Ten or win a National, go to a 919 00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:25,700 sweet 16 these kinds of things do energized fanbases. 920 00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:28,500 Even if we go we lose as long as it's a relatively competitive 921 00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:32,100 game, the team plays well these are all good things, we'll see 922 00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:35,700 what happens as I you men's basketball will be back in 923 00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:38,500 Action, Hoosier hysteria coming up soon. 924 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,200 And as we mentioned, the first preseason game is less than six 925 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,100 weeks away, which is nuts. But anyway, Scott good chat with 926 00:46:45,100 --> 00:46:47,600 you about this. And we'll look forward to 927 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,800 getting you folks as comments as we go closer to basketball 928 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,900 season for Scott. 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