1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,600 You're listening to the back home network, presented by home 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:22,400 field, apparel. Welcome back to Crimson gasp. 3 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,300 Kalin clavius got Caulfield. Join any of the 13th of 4 00:00:25,300 --> 00:00:29,600 November, there's snow on the ground and Bloomington. 5 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:36,300 And I you football is now pretty much Bolin eligible, I guess. 6 00:00:36,300 --> 00:00:38,900 Technically, they could still make a bowl at five and seven, 7 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:43,600 but if you think that's happening, I might have some 8 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,100 news that I need to share with you. 9 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:48,100 We're going to talk about that. As India to comes off a big loss 10 00:00:48,300 --> 00:00:52,500 yesterday to the Ohio State Buckeyes, which in and of itself 11 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:56,600 is not surprising. Although perhaps the details 12 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,400 might hold some surprise, so we're going to talk about that a 13 00:00:59,408 --> 00:01:02,100 little bit. We got Scott Caulfield joining 14 00:01:02,100 --> 00:01:05,600 us again. Scott the co-host here, Crimson 15 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,100 cast. It's good to see you again. 16 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:10,100 How are you doing? I'm doing well, doing very well. 17 00:01:10,100 --> 00:01:12,500 It's funny you mentioned the November thing. 18 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:15,200 It's like up here at Indy. I'm sure you got some snow to. 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:20,000 We got like maybe you know, half an inch to almost an inch of 20 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,400 snow yesterday. It's cold and like we went over 21 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,800 to some neighbors house last night to have a couple drinks, 22 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,900 play some games and they spent the day putting up. 23 00:01:30,100 --> 00:01:32,200 Up all of their Christmas decorations, including their 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,000 Christmas tree. So it's like, we're walking over 25 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,900 and I'm like, just tell my wife like man feels just like weird. 26 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:39,100 This feels like, you know, mid-January and I don't like 27 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:41,000 that and we get in their house and it's like all Christmas 28 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,200 stuff and I'm like, all right, this is like, this is way too 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:45,100 early. Like we're nice. 30 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:46,600 I stop. Let's stop. 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:48,400 We don't need that right now. No, it's true. 32 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:55,000 It's like the it was 74 75 degrees down here in Bloomington 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,400 on Thursday and even Friday wasn't terrible from a 34 00:01:59,408 --> 00:02:01,700 temperature. Spective is probably in the 50s 35 00:02:02,100 --> 00:02:05,300 and then to wake up yesterday and again the kids are excited, 36 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:08,000 they're outside. There's about an inch of snow on 37 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,300 the deck, maybe two inches and it kept falling all morning and 38 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:13,900 I'm just like, I'm not ready for this. 39 00:02:13,900 --> 00:02:17,600 Like, it felt like NFL playoff season, you know, and and I 40 00:02:17,608 --> 00:02:21,500 think tonight, the low here in Bloomington is going to be 18 41 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:24,600 degrees Fahrenheit. And it's just like, what? 42 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,200 Like what are we doing? Like how now it's going to 43 00:02:27,300 --> 00:02:31,500 little, it's not going to be like a If we cold all week, but 44 00:02:31,500 --> 00:02:35,900 I am with you, like my mind needs a little bit more 45 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,200 transition period to get to the point, where I'm like, okay, 46 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,100 yeah, there's Christmas decorations up. 47 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:43,700 There's like, there's signs in my neighborhood for like, 48 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:48,700 professional Christmas, light installation and you combine 49 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:52,400 that with the snowfall and everything else, and it's too 50 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,000 much, too soon. I really can't deal with it. 51 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:59,800 So yeah, it's it's it's been a bit rough on the bright side 52 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:01,700 that Does make it feel like basketball season. 53 00:03:01,700 --> 00:03:03,900 We are going to talk about basketball in a separate podcast 54 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:06,400 later today. So it dub, but but even there 55 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,000 it's like this is almost like February, not November 12th, 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,500 November 13th. So there are some problems that 57 00:03:12,500 --> 00:03:14,500 we need to suss out with all of that, where it talked about it 58 00:03:14,508 --> 00:03:16,500 in a little bit. But anyway, before we get to the 59 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:19,600 podcast, is to remind her that we are part of the back home 60 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:22,300 network about whom do you. 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As the Hoosiers, drop 2 3 and 7 129 00:06:42,900 --> 00:06:47,800 on the campaign they lose in decisive fashion. 130 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,600 I think would probably be the kindest way of putting it 131 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,200 yesterday. They drop another game to Ohio 132 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:59,400 State, and that losing streak. I think extends 225 now 56 to 133 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,600 14. Final score. 134 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:05,600 This was a game that got off to a I guess. 135 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,200 A slightly slow start in that both teams went three and out on 136 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,000 their first drive but then Ohio state scored and then they 137 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,200 scored again and then they scored again. 138 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,300 And even though Indiana did manage to get a touchdown on the 139 00:07:18,300 --> 00:07:21,500 following possession, the game was effectively over at that 140 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:25,800 point. Not a dissimilar script too many 141 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,200 Ohio, State Indiana games that we've seen over the years Scott. 142 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,400 But another game where Indiana just looked like they were on a 143 00:07:36,407 --> 00:07:38,100 different planet from their opponent. 144 00:07:38,100 --> 00:07:42,600 In terms of preparation, execution, Personnel all of that 145 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:47,000 defense really struggled in this one and that was probably the 146 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:51,000 most unfortunate aspect of the game but you even had a blocked 147 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,100 punt. You know, you had the James 148 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:56,800 Evans, the punter, you know, taking the block punt aside 149 00:07:57,300 --> 00:08:02,500 hunted for 500 yards. Yesterday, which I mean, that's, 150 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,100 that's an accomplishment, I don't know what the record is, 151 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:09,400 but I do give James Evans credit because he maintained a pretty 152 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:12,000 good average with that 45 and a half yards, a punt. 153 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,800 But that when you're punting is The Shining Moment 154 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:19,000 statistically, you got some problems and unfortunately, 155 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:21,100 Indiana had a bunch of them in this game. 156 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,000 I mean, there's no real point in going through drives or talking 157 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,200 about like some of the individual elements of the game. 158 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,200 I mean, Ohio State just Had their way with Indiana. 159 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:35,799 And in terms of the running attack, 43 rushes for 340 yards, 160 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:41,000 a seven point nine yards per carry average, and that was mine 161 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:44,300 Williams, came out, rushed fifteen times, four hundred, and 162 00:08:44,300 --> 00:08:47,100 forty seven yards had a touchdown, and then got injured, 163 00:08:47,300 --> 00:08:48,900 you know? And they had to start going down 164 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:50,600 the depth chart, and it didn't matter down. 165 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,800 Hayden comes in 19, carries 102 yards, Xavier Johnson, that was 166 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:58,200 confusing. No, confer converted, I think 167 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,800 wide receiver. One Rush. 71 yards for a 168 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:05,700 touchdown, it was basically just Open Season. 169 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,700 You could have driven, you know, vehicles through the holes, that 170 00:09:09,700 --> 00:09:14,800 Ohio State's line was generating and Scott, you know again it's 171 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,300 one of those things where we see Ohio, this Ohio State team 172 00:09:18,700 --> 00:09:22,800 dominate opponents quite a bit. So it's hard to get like too 173 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,500 upset about the lack of performance. 174 00:09:26,900 --> 00:09:30,500 But I think what's fascinating to To me, at least from the 175 00:09:30,508 --> 00:09:36,500 defensive performance. Is how like poor Indiana looks 176 00:09:36,500 --> 00:09:40,600 from a technique perspective from an effort perspective. 177 00:09:40,700 --> 00:09:44,900 I mean it, you know, would there have been a chance to stop Ohio 178 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:47,800 state with greater technique and greater effort, perhaps, not, 179 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,000 but it really looked like Indiana kind of gave up the 180 00:09:50,008 --> 00:09:52,600 ghost very early in this one. And that's been a troubling 181 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,900 Trend with this defense all season. 182 00:09:56,900 --> 00:10:01,400 Yes, let's talk basketball. No, I agree with all of that, 183 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:03,700 know it. I have two thoughts. 184 00:10:03,700 --> 00:10:06,400 I'll start with this game first and I like to go bigger picture 185 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,400 against our Ohio State Games. And, you know, it's I'll come 186 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:13,600 back to this, but you do have to just like in the end, it's like, 187 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:17,600 this is, this is a different League of team at Ohio State is 188 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,300 versus Indiana. But here's what I started doing 189 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:25,500 in the third quarter because I think it's a little bit unfair. 190 00:10:25,700 --> 00:10:27,200 They met at Ohio, State's really good? 191 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,100 Like how do you expect Indiana to compete? 192 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,400 And on one hand, that's true on the other hand. 193 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,900 It's like well they are in our conference, they have to we have 194 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:38,000 to play them like Alabama gets beaten here and there, Ohio 195 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,500 state gets beaten here and there. 196 00:10:39,900 --> 00:10:43,600 So I started looking at Ohio and this is just like this is what a 197 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,400 sad. I you football fan, does during 198 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:49,600 games, how many three and outs teams have had against Ohio 199 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:52,900 State this year, so I'm just going to go down the list and a 200 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:56,600 lot of these are not three and outs, but R like to plays and 201 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,400 then Ohio, State forces, a turnover because, you know, Ohio 202 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,400 State's really good. Notre Dame had for Arkansas 203 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,300 State, a team that I feel like should be, you know, a level 204 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:08,100 below. Indiana had 53 announce with one 205 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:10,300 turnover Toledo, had six three and outs. 206 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:14,000 One turnover Wisconsin had for Rutgers had 42 of those return 207 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:17,200 overs. Michigan, state had six, Iowa 208 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,600 Stellar performance, 73, and outs of which 4 were turnovers. 209 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,900 Just, it's almost not even fair to call it a 3 out when they're 210 00:11:24,900 --> 00:11:27,300 like intercept. Fumbling on the first play Penn 211 00:11:27,300 --> 00:11:29,500 State have three with three tall. 212 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:33,400 All three were three turnovers Northwestern had for Indiana 213 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:39,600 have 92 of those with turnovers and so it's a little bit yes. 214 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:41,300 Ohio State's better than Indiana. 215 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:45,300 Yes, we don't need to dig into the details, but when you're not 216 00:11:45,300 --> 00:11:48,200 even able to move the ball against Ohio State, you're 217 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,400 getting nine, three and outs Arkansas state only had five, 218 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,200 they were able to get a couple of plays here and there. 219 00:11:55,900 --> 00:12:01,800 It, that's the troubling part is sure there's a gap and sure 220 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:05,500 you're not as good as Ohio State, but it's like it sucks 221 00:12:05,500 --> 00:12:07,300 that you're like, you're the worst team they played, and 222 00:12:07,300 --> 00:12:10,600 you've been able to do the least against them compared to anybody 223 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,000 out there. And honestly, one of the last 224 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:16,200 drives that we had Dexter Williams ran for a first down. 225 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:18,700 And then we went out with three more plays later, like, we had 226 00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:22,000 kind of a, almost three and out ish at the end of the game where 227 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:23,300 I bet. If Ohio State's defense was 228 00:12:23,300 --> 00:12:25,500 totally locked in, it might have been 10. 229 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,400 But to me, that's the part that I look at is like compared to 230 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,900 the other teams. This year that Ohio state is 231 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:34,800 manhandling, they met in handled us the absolute worst. 232 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:37,100 And to me, that's, that's very concerning. 233 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:40,600 Well, and that's the thing. I mean, there's two separate 234 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,800 issues here. I think the defense to me, my 235 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:46,500 big problem with the way the defense is playing right now, is 236 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:50,700 that they just have looked bad pretty much all season and this 237 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:53,900 was not supposed to be how it was. 238 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:56,500 I mean, you know, Tom Allen taking the Defense back over 239 00:12:56,500 --> 00:13:00,100 again, was supposed to fix the problems that the defense had 240 00:13:00,100 --> 00:13:04,100 last year and and frankly, the defense is worse this year than 241 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:06,200 it was last year. There was an interesting piece 242 00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:10,200 in the daily. Hoosier written by Patrick Felts 243 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,700 that pointed out that, you know, defensively speaking. 244 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:21,300 This was the first time since 2018 that I you had allowed more 245 00:13:21,300 --> 00:13:23,700 than 40 points in back-to-back games. 246 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:27,000 And 2018, of course, was also So I think it's important to keep 247 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,000 in mind, a Tom Allen LED defense. 248 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,000 He was coaching the defense that season as well over the what was 249 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,800 it over the past 11 quarters since taking a 14-0 lead against 250 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,500 Rutgers? I'm quoting from this piece. 251 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:44,000 The Hoosiers have been outscored 125 to 31 and so it's not just a 252 00:13:44,008 --> 00:13:46,800 defensive failure, it's certainly a total systems 253 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:52,500 failure for IU but this defense is supposed to be stocked with 254 00:13:52,900 --> 00:13:55,300 really good talent. You know Talent that's developed 255 00:13:55,300 --> 00:13:57,000 over. Overtime talent that has be 256 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,400 considered to be old. Big Ten may be in consideration 257 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:06,100 for All-American and yes, they did lose cam Jones halfway 258 00:14:06,100 --> 00:14:10,800 through the year but overall the defense has been incredibly 259 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:14,900 disappointing and that, you know, certainly, I think Ohio 260 00:14:14,900 --> 00:14:17,900 state is a poor measuring stick. Because Ohio, State's made a lot 261 00:14:17,900 --> 00:14:19,700 of teams, look bad. They made Iowa look, bad. 262 00:14:19,700 --> 00:14:23,100 They made Wisconsin, look bad by similar margins. 263 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,600 But again, Comes down to this idea of what are you expecting 264 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,900 out of Indiana? You would have expected them to 265 00:14:29,908 --> 00:14:34,700 be able to, you know, perhaps do something more than they did 266 00:14:34,700 --> 00:14:38,300 defensively in this game. And it's just been a trend that 267 00:14:38,300 --> 00:14:41,400 we've seen out of this Indiana team, over the course of the 268 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,800 whole season basically. And, you know, you go through 269 00:14:43,800 --> 00:14:47,200 and you look at what Indiana's done over the course of the last 270 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:52,600 several games, you know, they've, since since game two, 271 00:14:52,700 --> 00:14:54,700 when they held Idaho to 22 points. 272 00:14:54,700 --> 00:14:59,200 Yay. They've allowed 3045 3531 3824 273 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,900 to Rutgers 45 and 56 points and 0 on the season. 274 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:08,900 So far, this Indiana defense has given up the third most points 275 00:15:08,900 --> 00:15:14,000 of any power 5 team, only Vanderbilt and Colorado have 276 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,800 given up more points than Indiana, so far this season and 277 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,300 that's not good. That's a real problem. 278 00:15:20,300 --> 00:15:22,500 Especially when you consider that you're playing in the Big 279 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:28,300 Ten, which does not have a Talk of high level offenses the way 280 00:15:28,300 --> 00:15:31,100 that the Pac-12 does or the SEC does. 281 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:35,500 And so that is a concern. Now, I do want to move over to 282 00:15:35,500 --> 00:15:38,700 the offense. The offense, it keeps coming 283 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:41,100 back to this issue of the offensive line. 284 00:15:42,100 --> 00:15:44,800 You know, you go and you look at the numbers from this game. 285 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,000 And again Indiana's, just essentially incapable of getting 286 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,800 anything going on offense. That doesn't have to do with 287 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:55,400 Dexter Williams, running the football. 288 00:15:55,500 --> 00:16:00,600 All and that is not really a designed play that you have been 289 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,600 able to rely on the course of the Season Williams was only 290 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,300 able to throw 20 or scuse me 19 times on the game. 291 00:16:07,300 --> 00:16:09,600 He completed six of them. Now, one of them was a really 292 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,000 nice throw down the field and other was a nice touchdown 293 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:18,700 throw, but the offensive line continues to be just an absolute 294 00:16:18,700 --> 00:16:22,800 disaster in terms of blocking for either the passing game, or 295 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:26,600 the running game. And You know, Scott when I think 296 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:31,100 about this team, now it comes down to what like what decisions 297 00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:35,800 are being made and it's clear at least in this game that Dexter 298 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:40,400 Williams. Provided a spark of sorts he 299 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:41,700 come. He doesn't start the first 300 00:16:41,700 --> 00:16:44,000 couple of drives that there's an early hook for Basil. 301 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,900 Lack Williams comes in, has a really nice first drive. 302 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:50,600 I you starts to show a little life now that died off quickly, 303 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:56,100 but even showing what we saw there from Williams, it does 304 00:16:56,100 --> 00:16:58,600 kind of make you ask the question. 305 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:01,800 If Williams is able to make something out of nothing on 306 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,599 these plays where the blocking breaks down, which is 307 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:09,200 essentially every play. Then it makes the last few weeks 308 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,900 of IU season, make even less sense, like why was he not the 309 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:17,400 first quarterback Off the Bench? When basil Act was in air quotes 310 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,400 injured? Why did he come out like come in 311 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,400 last week? After Brandon sores? 312 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,500 Be, you know why? Like, why didn't he start this 313 00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:28,200 game? There's there's a lot of 314 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,600 question marks here, because I think, certainly Dexter 315 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,300 Williams. It's hard to judge him, 316 00:17:33,300 --> 00:17:36,200 effectively, given the lack of blocking just like it's hard to 317 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,300 judge how. Well Connor base lights been 318 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:41,500 doing or not doing due to the lack of blocking, but it's clear 319 00:17:41,500 --> 00:17:44,100 that this young man has some Talent at the quarterback 320 00:17:44,100 --> 00:17:46,000 position. He has a decent arm, he can 321 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,700 move, he's a little more, Michael pain, excision terms of 322 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,200 you know, being athletic. Why has he not been playing like 323 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:56,400 this season is over essentially and it's been over for a few 324 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:01,900 weeks you know the writings been on the wall the decision making 325 00:18:01,900 --> 00:18:04,800 process on the quarterback situation in particular. 326 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,000 I find baffling to a point that I'm having a hard time 327 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,900 describing it to people who ask me, why hasn't Dexter Williams 328 00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:12,300 and playing. Do you have an answer on this 329 00:18:12,300 --> 00:18:15,600 that you can provide? No this was my other point that 330 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,400 I was gonna bring up a lot of the same things you just hit, 331 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:23,800 none of it makes any sense and so I'm going to it reminds me 332 00:18:24,100 --> 00:18:26,600 similar and then there's also a huge caveat here. 333 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:31,300 If you haven't subscribed to bite-sized bison by Taylor lame 334 00:18:31,300 --> 00:18:33,800 and it's just, it's fantastic. You've had him on, I've 335 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,100 subscribed to a sub stack, it's great but he had, I'm trying. 336 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:39,100 Search for it. While we're talking, I am not 337 00:18:39,100 --> 00:18:43,000 going to get the number here, but he he basically went through 338 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:47,200 basil acts like average yard per throw and it's like three or 339 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,800 four yards, like it's one of the worst in college football. 340 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:51,900 Maybe can look it up while I'm talking about. 341 00:18:51,900 --> 00:18:55,300 Like that was it was the kind of the point of his last article to 342 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:59,700 the last article and it's it's borne out by what I saw on the 343 00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:04,800 field and but it is it's wild that it reminds me a little bit 344 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:09,900 of like the 2018 2019. Are aware, you had Peyton Ramsey 345 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:12,500 playing quarterback and said he would throw these very short 346 00:19:12,500 --> 00:19:16,000 passes and then penix would come in and we'd be like bombing it 347 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,700 down. It's a why aren't we doing that 348 00:19:17,700 --> 00:19:19,700 with, with Ramsey as well? I don't think Ram. 349 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:21,300 We kind of came to the agreement. 350 00:19:21,300 --> 00:19:23,200 Got something Ramsay has the arm to do that. 351 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,700 So we almost had to play books. The caveat is Ramsey. 352 00:19:25,700 --> 00:19:27,600 Still took us like let us do a bowl game. 353 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,500 It wasn't like the wheels were falling off. 354 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:35,400 But yes. So so it is like Dexter Williams 355 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:39,700 can do things that Bay's lack cannot and that does open up 356 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:42,000 some things in the offense, which almost makes you think. 357 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,600 Maybe you should have played two quarterbacks but I'm with you, 358 00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:49,100 it's like if he's if he has this kind of zip on the ball and he 359 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:52,500 has I'm not saying he looks like a young Michael penix, but he 360 00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:55,400 looks like he has something like when he comes in. 361 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:56,700 There's a little bit of pepper on the ball. 362 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:59,600 He's able to move and you're like, wow, this is, this is 363 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,500 something that release I got. Interesting. 364 00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:04,900 How are the coaches not seeing this? 365 00:20:04,900 --> 00:20:06,200 And to your point? Like, how is it? 366 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:08,500 He is not. The first guy off the bench 367 00:20:08,500 --> 00:20:11,700 likewise sores be ahead of him when you put tall. 368 00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:13,400 And why is he not ahead of Tuttle? 369 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,100 Like what? Why did he not start the Penn 370 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:18,400 State game? But then I also look at it this 371 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,200 way to is it again. All we have is the ability to 372 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,100 start micro looking at this team because they sucking on the 373 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:27,900 field orders not winning but it's like okay. 374 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:31,400 So why did you do all this to debase lack? 375 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Like why did you put him in for three series than just yank them 376 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,200 like he did what he does. Like it's not like he came in 377 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:37,500 and threw three pitches. Pics. 378 00:20:37,500 --> 00:20:39,700 Look scared. Like Bay's, like did exactly 379 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:41,800 what base, like, has done all season. 380 00:20:42,100 --> 00:20:45,800 And so, again, I hate being the fan of the contrabass lack, you 381 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:47,300 know, fan club here. But it's like, what were you 382 00:20:47,300 --> 00:20:49,300 expecting in the do? Like, he didn't throw deep. 383 00:20:49,300 --> 00:20:51,600 He has thrown deep all year. He didn't throw picks, he kept 384 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,500 the ball, he managed it. He went three and out. 385 00:20:53,500 --> 00:20:56,200 That's kind of what he does, but I would look at it a little 386 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,900 differently. It's like, Obviously, you're 387 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:01,500 done with base lack, he's not going to come back, he's not. 388 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:03,300 He will know it. Is that obvious? 389 00:21:03,300 --> 00:21:07,100 I don't go ahead. Sorry, well, but maybe not, but 390 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,500 my thing is like, if you're going to go add extra Williams 391 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:11,400 next year again, who knows what the hell they're gonna do? 392 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:14,900 It's like you have a nice trial run the next two weeks. 393 00:21:14,900 --> 00:21:17,300 If the season is over, you're not making a bowl claiming it's 394 00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:18,700 Michigan State playing against Purdue. 395 00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:20,900 You might have a better chance to evaluate him. 396 00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:26,200 Anybody against you know, Penn State and Ohio State is going to 397 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,000 be kind of screwed anyway. So So why not just let Bay's 398 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,000 lack kind of take the bullets, which you've kind of already 399 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,800 done because you pulled him out and you put them in. 400 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,500 Like I I'm with you, I'm baffled with what they're doing and the 401 00:21:38,500 --> 00:21:43,400 other concerning thing here is that Dexter Williams, looks good 402 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:47,500 has flashes but we saw that with penix early but penix was like a 403 00:21:47,500 --> 00:21:49,800 freshman. This is a redshirt sophomore 404 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:53,400 like when he starts next. If he's our starter next year 405 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,000 he's over halfway done with his college career. 406 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,400 Like this isn't like a project we're going to Have him. 407 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,900 Oh my God. The next four years going to be 408 00:21:59,908 --> 00:22:02,300 great with him. Like we have two more years with 409 00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:04,500 him if he's our starter. Well. 410 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,300 Okay. So there's a, there's several 411 00:22:07,300 --> 00:22:11,100 things to talk through their. I mean, first of all, he does 412 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:13,800 have an extra year because technically everyone's got, 413 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,300 everybody's got the covid here and he's and keep in mind. 414 00:22:16,308 --> 00:22:20,000 Also had an ACL injury last year, and that's why he was not 415 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,100 available at all. And that's so there are some 416 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:29,600 caveats there and I'm less troubled by You know, let's move 417 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,800 the foot of this way. I was talking with some friends 418 00:22:33,300 --> 00:22:36,400 on text during the game yesterday and what I think is 419 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,600 important to keep in mind is that Williams did look good and 420 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,100 I think Williams deserves a lot of credit, you know. 421 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:50,200 But the flip side of it is the more film on every Indiana 422 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,700 quarterback the worse. They get because the play 423 00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:58,000 calling the blocking does not allow for very much. 424 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,600 In terms of what they can do and what they can show. 425 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,700 And so I think to some degree and this is where, you know, 426 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:07,900 it's like how do you judge Connor, basil, act as basil. 427 00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:10,900 Act look pretty good against Illinois and then gradually has 428 00:23:10,900 --> 00:23:12,800 looked worse and worse throughout the year is that 429 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,900 because Connor Bane's likes become a worst player. 430 00:23:14,900 --> 00:23:18,900 No, it's because defense is know what Connor basal-like can do 431 00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:21,700 and can't do and more of the point, they know what the 432 00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:26,600 offensive line can't do, and they're able to do things. 433 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:29,200 And then you also throw the Weaver's in as well they're able 434 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,200 to do things that create problems that are almost 435 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,400 impossible to solve for these individual quarterbacks that I 436 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:42,100 use got whoever it is. And so, I worry for you know, I 437 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:45,100 do I kind of asked the question like what are they planning on 438 00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:46,700 doing with their quarterback situation? 439 00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:49,300 Because if you're going to abandon Connor, basil, lack now 440 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,100 and that's fine. If you feel like basil, lack is 441 00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:54,900 not the long-term solution, then you should make a change. 442 00:23:54,900 --> 00:23:58,100 But I keep coming back to this thing that we've talked about 443 00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:02,000 over and over again, Scott, which is, how can you judge how 444 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,100 a player at the quarterback position is faring right now 445 00:24:06,100 --> 00:24:09,200 with no offensive line and no reliable. 446 00:24:09,300 --> 00:24:13,400 Receivers that's a real issue. I mean yesterday, Dexter 447 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,700 Williams had to, you know, there's no camper he's out for 448 00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:22,000 the year. There's no DJ Matthews. 449 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,500 Like, you know, he threw of the nine passes. 450 00:24:25,500 --> 00:24:29,300 He completed forward to AJ Barner and then nobody else had 451 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:31,600 more than one catch. Yes, I can. 452 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,700 Listen, Kobe won. Cash. 49 yards, Malik. 453 00:24:33,700 --> 00:24:35,700 I hope Bennett at one catch Donovan. 454 00:24:35,700 --> 00:24:37,300 McCulley welcome back. Donovan. 455 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:39,600 Had one catch and it was a nice. Nice catch. 456 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,700 It was that touchdown throw the that made it. 457 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,600 Whatever it was at that point like 4914 or 42-14 and then 458 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,500 Jalen Lucas had one catch. I don't know how you judge, how 459 00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:54,600 good or how bad these quarterbacks are. 460 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,000 And I don't really understand the criteria being used to play 461 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,300 them or not play them because you're right. 462 00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:05,100 It's like you've watched this. And whether whether basil Act 463 00:25:05,100 --> 00:25:08,100 was actually injured, which I still think is pretty dubious 464 00:25:08,700 --> 00:25:11,800 because See, no evidence of it. And as you said last week, he 465 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,700 was good enough to go in this game, but then you only play him 466 00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:17,500 for a couple of series. And we heard on the broadcast, 467 00:25:17,500 --> 00:25:21,000 Joel Klatt, talking about how Tom Allen was expecting to see 468 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,500 Dexter Williams in the game and was looking forward to it. 469 00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:27,600 So it's like so you just you you through basil like out there 470 00:25:28,300 --> 00:25:29,900 knowing you were just going to pull him. 471 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,400 It does feel like if I'm Connor basil a guy I'm like I'm not 472 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,900 getting the very fair Shake here and if I'm Dexter will ya from 473 00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:41,600 Dexter Williams? I'm like Well I look at how 474 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,800 basil acts being treated right now and I realized that that's 475 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,500 what's awaiting me down the line because there doesn't seem to be 476 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:50,400 any plan without this team uses its reporter. 477 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,300 Be any any future transfer to? Here's a great question like 478 00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:56,300 let's assume Bay's lack is healthy for next week and let's 479 00:25:56,300 --> 00:25:59,000 assume I've not seen a full report on Tuttle but let's just 480 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,700 tuttle's out and totals out. He broke his collarbone. 481 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,800 That's what I figure. But let's let's just pretend 482 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,600 he's he's also he'd be hell. Alright, here's the Ship. 483 00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:14,200 I would love to just like, can you put down the Indiana depth 484 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,800 chart at quarterback? Like, can you rank it one 485 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,400 through five? Like, with this hat, it's 486 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,300 funnier of titles in there because it's like eight but 487 00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:23,500 like, honestly, I don't like who's starting next week against 488 00:26:23,500 --> 00:26:26,900 Michigan State, who's like it's probably Williams than Bay's 489 00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:29,400 lack and then sores me off the third. 490 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,200 But like it this is not, it's wild that we're at a point where 491 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,800 like I'm not and I'm way to watch way too much. 492 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,800 I you football. It's like it's wild that I'm 493 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,000 not. Sure I fully know what our 494 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,900 quarterback depth chart is you know what's Wild to me when you 495 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:50,000 look at this year. The leading passer for IU in 496 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,300 every you know, they list these out on ESPN. 497 00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:56,700 There have been three games now where the leading passer for 498 00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:01,600 Indiana has not Eclipse, 200 yards, passing there have been. 499 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:05,800 One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine of the 500 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:10,600 ten games where the leading rusher has not Eclipse, 80 501 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,900 yards. And in fact, it even put it, 502 00:27:12,900 --> 00:27:15,200 it's like really rush back. Ineligible about what I'm going 503 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,000 to read. I want to read the Indiana lead. 504 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:24,200 Rusher totals for the season. All right, 28 1, 55 65, 70, 9:30 505 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:33,000 9:45 3231 4446, and Dexter Williams was the leading rusher 506 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,300 for. I you yesterday, with that 46 507 00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:41,000 and this season Indiana has only had two games where their 508 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:46,000 leading receiver had 100 or more yards, cam camper at 156 against 509 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,400 Illinois and he had and 26 against Cincinnati. 510 00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:54,300 Wow, it's just bad. The the offense is just a 511 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:59,000 disaster but somehow the defense is worse this year and there's, 512 00:27:59,900 --> 00:28:02,000 I don't know. I mean your point is well-taken, 513 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:03,700 though. Like trying to figure out where 514 00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:06,600 the Indiana quarterback situation is right now, trying 515 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,100 to figure out what the Indiana running back situation is right 516 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:12,100 now is it's just an absolute mess. 517 00:28:12,500 --> 00:28:16,100 And and yet it all goes back to the offensive line and its 518 00:28:16,100 --> 00:28:21,000 inability to Either pass block or run block, consistently, and 519 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,600 to some degree. It gives these very skewed 520 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,800 statistical profiles where it's like, I don't know if Dexter 521 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:33,600 Williams was actually, Better overall for the course of the 522 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,200 game because at the end of the day as much as I enjoyed that 523 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,600 first pass in that first drive, this was another game where he 524 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:44,000 like really was not very good. When you look at the statistics, 525 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:49,900 I mean 9421 in this game and you know didn't I don't think threw 526 00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:54,200 an interception but he was 44 11 last game against Penn State and 527 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:55,900 had two interceptions in that one. 528 00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:59,500 Like I love the athleticism and it certainly gives Indiana 529 00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:02,400 something. To lean on when their offensive 530 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:08,600 line, inevitably breaks but I don't know that 64 19 for 107 531 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,500 yards and two touchdowns is really something that you can 532 00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:14,500 sustain long-term at the quarterback position. 533 00:29:14,500 --> 00:29:17,900 Now, will he get better? Probably will he get appreciably 534 00:29:17,900 --> 00:29:22,200 better to the point where he can overcome the lack of blocking in 535 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,400 front of him? I mean, probably not, I mean, 536 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,200 you know, as much as experience matters. 537 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:32,200 It's that's a tough sled to try to become Passer and I just 538 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:36,500 worry about, we kind of saw this with Donovan McCulley last year 539 00:29:36,900 --> 00:29:40,000 when McCulley comes in and you know it's like okay well 540 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,700 tuttle's injured and panics can't play anymore so we're 541 00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:47,300 going to bring in McCully and McCully is going to be the 542 00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:49,900 answer at quarterback. I think that was the plan. 543 00:29:50,300 --> 00:29:54,800 And yet, when you know, you go back and look at at mcculley's 544 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,400 Stats there, eerily similar to what we've seen so far out of 545 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,900 Dexter Williams. I mean McCullough, Why he came 546 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:05,000 in on the Ohio, State game last year, was 146, he played against 547 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:10,400 Maryland, I think he started that game. 14 425 for 242 yards 548 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,300 and two touchdowns. Then the next week, he played 549 00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:16,700 against Maryland, was 10 for 24 for 88 yards. 550 00:30:18,100 --> 00:30:21,900 The following week, he was 74, 20 against Rutgers for 98 yards. 551 00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:25,200 And then the following week, he was 3 for 7 against Minnesota 552 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:30,000 for 17 yards. And I think that was the game 553 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,100 that Led to that, that famous press conference, where, you 554 00:30:34,108 --> 00:30:36,900 know, Alan starts going off about what we have to, like, you 555 00:30:36,900 --> 00:30:38,900 know, call plays where we're going to move the ball down the 556 00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:41,600 field or something like that. And it's like, yeah, we know. 557 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:43,700 That was also around the time. They started bringing Grant 558 00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:46,700 gravel in because and again I keep coming back to this, like 559 00:30:46,700 --> 00:30:49,100 there was tape on David McCullough after a couple of 560 00:30:49,108 --> 00:30:51,100 games and it's like, oh here's what he can't do. 561 00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:54,800 And hey, shockingly defense is keyed on that and suddenly 562 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,000 Donovan McCully with with the statistical profile, that looks 563 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,700 very similar to deck. Sarah Williams right now, you 564 00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:04,400 know, went from being the future at the IU quarterback position 565 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:08,900 to not even playing quarterback. So just let's party. 566 00:31:08,900 --> 00:31:11,200 I dunno, I guess my point is, my point is just pump the brakes 567 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,800 everybody because I who knows with this, with this team, 568 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,200 what's gonna happen? But I'm looking forward to next 569 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,800 year with, you know, Dexter Williams back as safety, Connor 570 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,800 base, lack of tight end, like it's gonna be a great seat. 571 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,100 If it's just like an Etch-a-Sketch team hears, I'm 572 00:31:23,100 --> 00:31:25,000 gonna go big picture, let me wrap this up. 573 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,700 I was listening to your pregame, by the way, yeoman's job, 30 574 00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:33,700 minutes on an IU pregame show. Really like that's high level 575 00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:37,100 when we get inducted into the podcasting Hall of Fame. 576 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,300 I think we might put that as part of your tape and it's like, 577 00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:42,300 you know, that a lot of years, a lot of tough times, a lot of 578 00:31:42,308 --> 00:31:44,600 people thought I couldn't do a pre game but you know, you did a 579 00:31:44,608 --> 00:31:48,500 great stuff but you you laid out your, by the way, I want. 580 00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:51,200 I want that Excel sheet. IU football is sad like send 581 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:53,200 that said that Google Docs. I'll send it along. 582 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,500 Don't worry you of all people would appreciate it. 583 00:31:55,900 --> 00:31:57,800 Yeah. But you're laying out all of the 584 00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,700 years and I'm sitting there as I'm listening to it. 585 00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:04,000 Thinking this is not the best analogy but it's something I've 586 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,100 thought about that, you know, I work from home. 587 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,000 Me and my kids come home from you, the off school bus and then 588 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:11,700 a lot of times they, you know, they'll ask me if we can do 589 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:12,400 something. I'm coming out. 590 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,900 No, I got a little more work. I got to do and I'll do that for 591 00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,600 two or three days. Then it's like, I'll kind of 592 00:32:16,608 --> 00:32:20,900 glow like, like I need to say yes and play with them or else 593 00:32:20,900 --> 00:32:22,500 like, at some point. I'm just going to like my life 594 00:32:22,500 --> 00:32:25,100 is going to go by and it's going to be me just working in my 595 00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,500 office and not playing with him and then I'll kind of stopped 596 00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:31,900 and again not a great analogy but it's it's not good. 597 00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:34,400 Like you know, when you're in the micro it's like yes, this 598 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,700 Ohio State team is better than this Indiana team. 599 00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,100 There's no And they should win. So it's like, we chalk it all up 600 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:41,200 as a loss. It's kind of like, well, that's 601 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,700 what you expect. But if you string together too 602 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:47,400 many years in a row of just like we, there's no way we could beat 603 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,700 them this year. It's like what we can do, what 604 00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:50,800 we could beat them next year. And then, like next thing, you 605 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,700 know, your life goes by, and you've never beaten, Ohio State 606 00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:57,300 and to your point. This is Ohio, State is a very 607 00:32:57,300 --> 00:33:00,800 good team, they don't lose a ton, but people are able to 608 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,900 scout them and they're able to get it done. 609 00:33:02,900 --> 00:33:07,100 And it really is an indictment on the athletic department, the 610 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,000 Football program, like everybody because this this goes over, you 611 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:16,400 know, Generations over a DS over coaches that, you know, we can't 612 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,000 get it done. And then it's gotten to the 613 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,100 point where now it's not even like, you know, damn, we came 614 00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:22,400 really close against Michigan State. 615 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:23,700 Like, you know, maybe next year, we can get him. 616 00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:27,000 Like everybody goes into the season, just automatically 617 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,900 chalking up, Ohio State as a loss and then it happens and 618 00:33:30,900 --> 00:33:32,900 then there's a loss. And then there's the post game 619 00:33:32,900 --> 00:33:34,600 is Caillou. I'm reading the post game and 620 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,400 it's kind of like, you know, hey, we didn't like what he It 621 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,300 would be like, if you do a fourth grade team, played the 622 00:33:39,308 --> 00:33:41,500 Pacers, it's like, well what do you expect? 623 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:44,200 Like, this is not a fair fight and to me, like that's the 624 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,600 bigger problem is. So now we're just going to go 625 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,100 through my life for 30 years and just that, you know, things are 626 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,200 going to fly off the calendar. First every year, it's not going 627 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,300 to be there and just, you know, I know that in 2020 we beat 628 00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:01,100 Michigan, we beat Penn State. That was an outlier, but I would 629 00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:04,300 say the majority of the time we start every season 0 and 3 630 00:34:04,700 --> 00:34:06,100 because we're just we're going to lose the mission. 631 00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:08,699 We lose the Penn State we do. If we start every year 0 and 1 632 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,100 and that's just not a place that you can be running a football 633 00:34:12,100 --> 00:34:15,199 program and even the the schools that are not great like Michigan 634 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,300 state. They're not scared of Michigan. 635 00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:20,500 The hell they beat Michigan almost every other year. 636 00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:23,800 You know, you look at Purdue might win the Big Ten West which 637 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,000 is just baffling. But you know AB I don't think 638 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,800 they think we're going to beat Ohio state every year, but I 639 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,400 don't think they go into the season thinking that's a loss. 640 00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:37,100 Like that's just an act. There's nothing they will look. 641 00:34:37,199 --> 00:34:40,800 Their losses to Ohio State, and or Michigan, which they don't 642 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,400 play as often because they're in the effing big, ten west, but 643 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,300 they look at those as they're not scared of Wisconsin, the way 644 00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:49,600 we are of Ohio State. It's just, it's a bad place that 645 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,500 we've let this program get to and it's, it's like at some 646 00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:54,800 point. We got to start saying, like 647 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:57,100 this is the year, we can beat Ohio State and then we need to 648 00:34:57,107 --> 00:34:59,700 hold people accountable. Like it's got to be done at some 649 00:34:59,700 --> 00:35:02,900 point and yes, there's there's years where they're better and 650 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:06,500 we're not good and that's fine. But hey this wasn't you know 651 00:35:06,700 --> 00:35:08,200 couple years Ago. We weren't looking at this as 652 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,600 like, this is the year we're going to suck. 653 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,900 It's not like we're rebuilding a program so I don't know, it's, 654 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,600 it's frustrating. I know I didn't give the best 655 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:18,500 analogy but, you know, it's fine. 656 00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:20,600 I get it. That's the point that I take 657 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,400 from. It is like you just you can't 658 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,000 every year be like, well, they're better and we're not as 659 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,200 good. And it's like, that's just, you 660 00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,400 know, what do you expect? It's like, well, some point. 661 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,300 Well, I expect to beat Ohio State. 662 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:33,400 I am with you. I will say at this point, I'm 663 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,600 not sure if Indiana could beat Ohio. 664 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:39,000 Let alone, Ohio State. I mean, that I would let, 665 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,200 unfortunately, I think that mentality and I'm with you, and 666 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:45,000 I, that actually, when I created that spreadsheet was like, 2018 667 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,300 and I was like, gosh, you know, why are we still so far away 668 00:35:47,300 --> 00:35:50,300 from even looking like, you know, Indiana's got a shot at 669 00:35:50,300 --> 00:35:53,200 Ohio State. And unfortunately, with the last 670 00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:55,900 almost two years have done is basically, hit the reset button 671 00:35:55,900 --> 00:35:59,300 on all that to the point where it's like got to figure out how 672 00:35:59,300 --> 00:36:01,800 to beat Purdue got to figure out how to beat Northwestern. 673 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,000 Not. I mean it's they've the bar has 674 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,700 been lowered. So much at this point over these 675 00:36:08,700 --> 00:36:10,800 last two years that it's going to take. 676 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,300 Again, several years to build it back up again and that's the 677 00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:16,500 unfortunate reality. We're going to wrap up here 678 00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:18,500 because we've already gone longer than we thought one last 679 00:36:18,500 --> 00:36:21,400 thing. I'll mention, we've been keeping 680 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:25,500 an eye on Pro Football. Focus is college section and I 681 00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:29,000 want to note Indiana, despite having three wins has now 682 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:33,100 dropped. All the way to 128 out of 131 683 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:35,500 teams. In graded performance, the only 684 00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:41,200 teams Below them are Walt Bells. Old team UMass is 129th New 685 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:47,900 Mexico. 130th, Colorado, 131st northwestern's 126th still two 686 00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:50,900 spots ahead. I feel like we were robbed from 687 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,800 maybe the best worst game in college football history because 688 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,000 there is no Northwestern Indiana matchup this year but now 689 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:03,700 Indiana the numbers bear out how bad they've been this year and I 690 00:37:03,707 --> 00:37:05,700 actually think it's being under sold. 691 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,800 Bad for the better. Yes, Pro Football Focus should. 692 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,200 Like, you know, there should be like after 120. 693 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:12,700 It's just go. Straight pass/fail. 694 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,100 Like yours, you fail, like, we're not crazy like we're done. 695 00:37:15,100 --> 00:37:18,200 Like you, you don't get to be graded like you all just fail. 696 00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:21,700 It was, it was a systematic. It was act. 697 00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:25,700 It's interesting like as much as we looked at Dexter Williams and 698 00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:26,800 said, hey, that looks pretty good. 699 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:32,900 That was among the the worst passing performance is over all 700 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,000 that we've seen. Now, a lot of that was just Ohio 701 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,000 State being very Good. But again, it's where as much as 702 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,400 I like the promise of Dexter Williams from and athleticism 703 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,500 perspective, I just want to everybody pump the brakes 704 00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:44,700 because I feel like we've seen this movie already a couple of 705 00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:48,000 times in the Tom Allen era. Anyway, I will, I will end with 706 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,300 this, I promise. We'll be a minute. 707 00:37:49,300 --> 00:37:52,600 Like there's nothing nothing in the stats. 708 00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:54,600 Nothing? What I've seen that says this 709 00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:59,400 any of this can happen, but like this is my plea to IU football. 710 00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,200 You have two more games remaining while Michigan State 711 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,800 and Purdue or both going to be going to bowls. 712 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,500 They both had points in the season where they look like hot 713 00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:11,600 garbage, they turned it around and one game they probably 714 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,500 shouldn't have. This is might like it doesn't 715 00:38:15,500 --> 00:38:19,200 have to end this way. Neither of these games are games 716 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,900 where you can say, like the bridge is too far. 717 00:38:22,100 --> 00:38:23,700 Michigan, state is a beatable team. 718 00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:25,400 I don't think we're going to beat him produce a beautiful 719 00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:26,300 team. I don't think we're gonna beat 720 00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:30,600 him, but it's like, if you, if I you football, if you want to do 721 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:33,000 something, if you want to get people engaged, you want people 722 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,400 somewhat interested for next year in the offseason like Do 723 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,900 something when one of these games, he'll keep one of these 724 00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:41,500 games really close and make it a nail-biter at the end. 725 00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:43,700 Like, there's no reason why you can't do that. 726 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,700 You, you cannot you can do, they're going to do whatever 727 00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:48,100 they're going to do and they're probably going to lose out. 728 00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:51,200 But it's like don't have another season where you just throw in 729 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,200 the towel and kind of just get your ass beat on the way out 730 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:59,400 like stand-up do something and like, if if we're tired of 731 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,500 calling for Alan's head and changes like then like show that 732 00:39:02,500 --> 00:39:05,800 you can turn this around against to kind of me. 733 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:07,400 Joker, Big Ten opponents. Yeah. 734 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,300 I mean it's not impossible. Like I don't think it's going to 735 00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:11,500 happen. I'm not saying it's going to but 736 00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:15,000 this is this is where the rubber could theoretically hit the 737 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:16,800 road. You might like, if they were to 738 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,300 win one of these last two games, it would change change the 739 00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:25,400 season still sucked but at least it's like there's a glimmer 740 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,200 there of hope. It's like, maybe there's 741 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,900 something where it's like, maybe he's going to be able to turn 742 00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:32,200 this around. I mean, look, I mean that, that 743 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:36,200 Purdue team if you go back to the Florida, Atlantic Game, 744 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:42,100 they're five and two in that time, period, but they've won 745 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:46,800 those five games by two points. 10 points, two points, 6 points 746 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,300 and seven points, and these are not top level teams. 747 00:39:49,300 --> 00:39:53,700 We're talking about, Florida, Atlantic, Minnesota, Maryland, 748 00:39:53,900 --> 00:39:57,100 Nebraska, and Illinois. Those are the five wins. 749 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:01,200 They also have a 24:3 loss to Iowa, whose offense has been 750 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,700 dead for 10 years and they have a loss to Wisconsin on the road, 751 00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:07,500 which Now, that's a little more understandable. 752 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:10,600 But that's, it was Constantine. That doesn't look particularly 753 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:12,800 great this year. So, no, that's not a bridge too 754 00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,300 far. Michigan, state is not a bridge 755 00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:18,500 too far. If Indiana plays with, you know, 756 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,100 if they can put together a game plan, if they could put together 757 00:40:21,100 --> 00:40:23,900 some blocking, I don't see it happening. 758 00:40:24,100 --> 00:40:26,400 And I think for Michigan State in particular, I mean, they've 759 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,400 got to go to Penn State in the last game of the season. 760 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:33,200 Their bowl eligibility. Largely rides on the game next 761 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,600 week against Indiana. I have a real Hard time seeing 762 00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:41,200 Indiana Waltzing into Spartan Stadium and figuring out how to 763 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,800 win a game. When you can't beat Nebraska on 764 00:40:43,800 --> 00:40:47,900 the road, you're probably not going to beat Michigan State on 765 00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:50,100 the road. Even a Michigan State team that 766 00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:52,200 is in the going on a thousand different directions. 767 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,200 None of them particularly great this here anyway, that'll wrap 768 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,800 it up for us on this. We'll be back with our preview 769 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,300 of that Michigan State game coming up at the end of the 770 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:04,700 week, so be sure to tune in. Then Scott is always a pleasure 771 00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:09,100 will Be back next Sunday together to talk about that game 772 00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:12,800 and I guess see how things look for Indiana heading into the 773 00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,600 bucket game. Thanks Allan field apparel. 774 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:18,400 Thanks to our friends. At the back home network will 775 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:19,900 catch you folks on the flip side. 776 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000 Bring back the Bison. So long everybody.