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You're listening to the back 
home network, presented by home 

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Apparel, welcome back to Crimson

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Cask ale and klaviyo Scott, 
Caulfield Saturday the 18th. 

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Second round day, one of the 
NCAA tournament. 15 one team 

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from Indiana, still alive. 
So we're going to talk about 

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that. 
We're going to talk about the 

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team. 
This is still alive, too because

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we, we have to, but we're going 
to start talking about Indiana, 

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huge win in their opening round 
game as they knock off, Kent 

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State. 
Last night in Albany, New York, 

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71 260 we're going to break down
what happened in the game. 

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Why Indiana was able to win? 
And, and what it tells us about 

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moving forward, we're going to 
talk about Purdue And they're 

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like epic historic gift that 
they've provided way, Indiana 

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fans for the next 50 years, 
which I'll explain. 

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And then we're going to talk a 
little bit about IU, Miami, 

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which is going to be the second 
to last game coming up on 

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Sunday. 
That's a fascinating matchup. 

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It's got a lot going on. 
First of all, Scott, great to 

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see you. 
How you doing? 

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How was their you guys do like a
mead? 

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You know, testing convention 
yesterday. 

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Day before the game. 
Was there like a? 

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Did you have like a full like 
open like meat on spit kind of 

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thing going in the neighborhood?
What was the goes? 

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The spread for the game. 
I think. 

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Saving all that for the sweet 
16. 

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Ah, you're good. 
We yeah, we had a couple friends

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over. 
It was great, like, some of my 

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best friends. 
My neighbors one went to 

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Michigan State, who I talked 
about all the time. 

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But his wife went to Purdue and 
she showed her face. 

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She came hung out watched. 
Yeah, you gave. 

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It was fantastic, had a couple 
other friends over. 

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No, it was a pretty, pretty 
lame. 

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Pretty. 
We did have some cheese, have 

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some Ritz have a really good 
like spicy apricot spread that 

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they sell Kroger. 
And we'll say like, go for like 

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the dry aged or the Aged white 
cheddar. 

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It's really good. 
They have something like, it's 

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fantastic to cut that up and I'm
a big white cheddar guy, myself.

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Yes. 
Yeah. 

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But now we're watching it, you 
know, is it was fantastic. 

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It's like, we went to my son's, 
my six-year-old basketball game 

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watching part of the Purdue game
and then being watching that on 

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the way home coming home, seeing
that it was Just a great night. 

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Overall ready to talk about it? 
Yeah, it was, it was delightful.

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Thanks to the fine folks at 
switchyard, for hosting us, for 

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out of the miniature watch party
for I, you last night, I'm sure 

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a lot of the local businesses 
free because it's like wait the 

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game starting when and and we 
have to stay open how long? 

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But now the it was a fun time 
down at switchyard and we really

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enjoyed it. 
And thank you to smoke Works, 

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where I got to watch the end of 
the, the Purdue After you game. 

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So we'll talk about that in a 
little bit as well. 

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But now, Indiana of course, is 
what we normally talk about 

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primarily here. 
So we're going to dive into 

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that. 
First of all, just to remind her

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We get a tweet from Home field 
HQ that says we have signed a 

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licensing agreement with 
Fairleigh Dickinson and I can't 

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wait to see what they come up 
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collection Scott. 
I'm Juiced it to see what they, 

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what they come out with on this.
Well, the, I think they also had

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a tweet first, like, right after
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It's like an excited deal. 
I mean, it's Really only, you 

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know Connor and the team have 
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I'm with you, I will buy 
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I don't care if it even fits or 
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Sure if they ever Fairleigh 

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flag that I will be flying on my

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flagpole hopefully, for the 
sweet 16 under the IU flag but 

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now the only tactical mistake 
Connor is made is he should just

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be signing these deals with the 
low-level seeds, right? 

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Where they played Purdue like 
just be prepared your point 

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betting on the money line. 
Like, I'm just gonna go ahead 

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and get stock order. 
Oh my, you know Dan. 

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Oh they can send stuff now 
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She should have had both them 

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and Southeast Missouri State 
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there was absolutely a nonzero 
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teams was going to knock for do 
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Like yeah, I'm going to be a 

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you see. 
All right, Scott, I you the big 

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news of the evening. 
They knock off Kent State in a 

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game that again, I was shocked 
that they played because the 

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pundits at all, decided that 
Kent State was going to win. 

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And I gotta tell you, I feel I'm
actually concerned I've thought 

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about Out, perhaps calling the 
hotels in the Albany area. 

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Seeing if we need to send a care
package or an emotional support 

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like golden retriever to Spiro, 
d-des and Deb Antonelli who were

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on the broadcast because they 
have to be so crushed today that

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can State never actually made it
a basketball game. 

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I think they mentioned it. 
Like every minute there was why 

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I think Indiana at one point was
up like 12 or 14 and Kent State,

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hit a 3 and D. 
This is like you feel a shift in

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momentum coming and it's like 
No, you don't, the still shifted

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from, they hit a shot. 
That's that's part of the game 

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of basketball. 
What are you talking about? 

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But now, this was a game Scott 
that a lot of people outside of 

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the Indiana circles and even 
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thought, was going to be a real 
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And I think what struck me the 
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Indiana really never left it to 
chance like they, you know that 

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Kent State at one point, got it.
To within what 2623 in the first

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half and then again 2927 and 
then but like right at the end 

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of the half and then also from 
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first half, until about the 10 
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We're two spots where Indiana 
just kind of put their foot on 

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the gas primarily on defense and
used that to Spur transition 

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offense. 
They were aggressive, you know, 

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they weren't afraid in most 
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And they managed to look 
incredibly comfortable in that 

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style and Kent State. 
Just struggled to hit anything. 

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They ended up with one starter 
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offensive efficiency can State 
shot 31 percent from Two and 

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thirty three percent from three 
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know, did what they normally do 
this shot 50% from from to, they

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hit some threes and I think most
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supposedly was gonna get all 
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They ended up with only seven 
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Only 11% of possessions which is
one of the best marks they had 

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all year, just a masterful 
performance and a masterful 

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coaching job by Mike Woodson to 
get his guys ready. 

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What were your overall thoughts 
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Yeah, I mean it's definitely 
recency bias and I don't want to

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go through the schedule on this 
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This felt like this was the best
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This team has put together all 
year and I know, I know the 

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opponent isn't quite there but, 
you know, they and they've had 

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some good women, you know, you 
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you know, Road win at Purdue, 
like maybe that's a quad to win.

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Now I'm not sure if I can watch 
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but hey, that wasn't, that 
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Dickinson's. 
First quad one win yesterday, 

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man, come on. 
Hey, Go ahead. 

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Go ahead, please, up the seed 
line. 

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But no, I mean, I know it's like
not a Road, Big Ten game, but we

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looked all put together, we were
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And yeah, there was moments that
can State hit shots and that 

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that happens. 
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You, you also as us with my 
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It was very much like the shark 
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Like Trace had a really good 
first half but you can just kind

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of tell like he's he's letting 
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My buddy was like, dude he's 
gonna have a like he's just 

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gonna kill it. 
The second half, he's gonna take

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this game over but and he did 
and he had like just a traces 

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you started seeing this happen, 
more the end of this year where 

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he has these games were kind of 
list the first half like a point

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guard lets everyone else get 
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right now I'm just going to 
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They had, you know, he was 
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We were running, we're pushing 
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Miller cops shooting with 
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It was a great just an 
absolutely awesome performance. 

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The only thing that you Maybe be
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was, you know, Kent State missed
some pretty open shots that were

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open. 
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missed a good number of shots 
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I'm not here to. 
I'm not going to shit on this 

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way. 
I'm just like that's the only 

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thing to be slightly concerned 
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this is kind of like what we've 
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Like can this team put it 
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Keep it together and can State. 
As we talk about the preview, 

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like they've always their 
calling card is making runs at 

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the end. 
And as you said, we really left 

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them no options and never gave. 
Them, the opportunity to be in a

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spot where they could get it 
tight and make something wild 

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happen. 
Like, we literally put the foot 

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on the throat and just kept it 
there, the entire game. 

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Yeah. 
I mean, you know, and I heard 

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that mentioned as well about, 
you know, Kent State missed a 

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lot of layups, but they were 
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Because Trace Jackson Davis is 
Rim, protection, was really 

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giving them fits and this was 
your right eye was talk about 

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some threes, but go. 
Well, well this was the and then

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know, you're no 100%. 
But but this is also when we 

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talked about Kent State, before 
we mentioned a couple of things,

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one was Don't shoot threes. 
Well, they came into the game, 

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shooting 33% from three guess 
what they shot in this game. 33 

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percent from three so they lived
up to type and they it's just it

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that I think Indiana. 
This is where from my 

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perspective the coaching and the
effort levels were so important 

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and so critical to the outcome 
of the game because I you 

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clearly had done a good scout 
and they realized that this was 

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not a team that was going to 
hurt them that much from outside

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and can't stay. 
Eight to their credit new their 

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limitations, and kept trying to 
drive the basketball. 

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But again, you know, you're not 
in Ohio anymore, you know, 

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playing against Mac level 
competition, you've got Trace 

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Jackson, Davis who ends up in 
this game with five blocks and 

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probably could have had a couple
more, like he was just inches 

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away from a couple more just 
completely altered. 

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Some of these smaller guards 
approaches to the basket, real, 

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how good he is at that. 
And like, and to the point, I'm 

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as most I, he fans like the guy 
starts driving the basket. 

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I got Tracy, got him and even 
when he's out of position he 

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gets in position and it's he 
does it with that without 

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fouling. 
He's not even close to fouling. 

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He's blocking high low, its it 
is such an asset to have and he 

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is all over the place and you're
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That's why they're missing those
layups because even when he's 

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you know, he can obviously block
from the weak side which is the 

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easier way to block, but he's 
also great at blocking when he 

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he's the defender. 
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that provides and then I'll just
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the effort like the and this is 
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frustrates, you know, us is. 
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effort all the time, but you saw
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Like well, Thompson was was 
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Like he was everywhere and like 
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know, my friend wife from Purdue
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like why couldn't we just like 
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Why can't we do that? 
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Look at the effort, like, Miller
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It's like, but you see it? 
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Thompson had like, I think three
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Yes. 
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you know. 
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He, he is showing it, and it's 
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Like his comments afterwards. 
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my all and I'm not ending in 
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it was that was also, what was 
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Is this team looks like they've 
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What they need to do to continue
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Yeah, I mean it's what was 
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need to get contributions from 
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players Off the Bench. 
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get a great game out of jail 
Hood your fee. 

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No, I mean eight points. 
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for boards. 
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means. 
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that tree Galloway had to play a
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guards but in this game it was 
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didn't contribute much in terms 
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one turnover and really steady 
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that first half race Thompson, 
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Stepped up immediately. 
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the entire Kent State team early
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quiet for a while. 
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before, but then came back with 
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ends up with 20 points. 
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guy that we've seen really have 
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course of the last month and a 
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That was impressive, Malik renew
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even tomorrow, Bates, who 
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his shots. 
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But he didn't know the shots 
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were down and came back up again
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do about that? 
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pretty good minutes. 
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but overall you like what you 
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cop like cop missed an early 
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him down a little bit and 
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down three threes on the game 
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who's taking a couple. 
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Who the shots were like 
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he normally that's normally the 
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Cop was in the corners of guy 
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drives in like he just pump fake
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It's a headband on 100%. 
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So, you know, this, this game 
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good. 
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mentioned the turnover rate, 
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to 37 percent effective field 
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second best defensive 
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field. 
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season, the only one that was 
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point. 
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against Wisconsin, where 
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how to shoot the basketball. 
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offensively, but they did enough
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interesting as fast as Indiana 
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know, they would grab rebounds, 
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and they run down the floor and 
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the 10 minute Mark of the first 
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stop, they get into their 
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work essentially almost the 
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get a good shot and that ended 
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games that Indiana has played on
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The only 64 possessions in this 
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that made it almost like, you 
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wanted to hurry up Indiana and 
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hurry up opponents. 
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job. 
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moment and putting themselves in
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dictating everything and that 
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frustration in the Kent State 
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on and they just never got that 
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You know, Mike, Woodson had a 
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Indiana was still up by eight. 
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we need to reset and and it 
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Indiana needed to get a handle 
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They were able to do. 
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And again, I'm not surprised 
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didn't think that Kent State was
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were giving them credit, but, 
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heard about how you know, Kent 
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things at Gonzaga or at Houston 
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At the end of the day, they 
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this game as they looked in 
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And it was largely because 
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that molested by what? 
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defensively. 
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goes away once we get to Miami, 
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could see it in the way. 
Kent State was reacting. 

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That, you know, I talked about 
this before, like the idea that 

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they just had never seen 
somebody like, Trace Jackson 

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Davis, like, you can see, like, 
when he was posting up, it's 

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like I need this other guy that 
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I thought they saw Drew Timmy. 
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the year, but it was a different
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Clearly, because Tim, he's just 
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protector, that Trace Jackson 
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So anyway, That's kind of the 
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We're going to come back and 
talk about the Kent or the the 

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Miami game a little bit later. 
Well actually we're we're going 

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to jump to another segment I 
guess final thought on this Kent

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State game real quick. 
Scott is if you think about the 

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way that Indiana wins this, it's
it really felt like it was the 

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best case scenario, given an 
unfortunate set of circumstances

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in that Indiana's game started 
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That it was you know, 
essentially it was almost too 

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late to it was it was comical 
like a scale. 

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This game is gonna get over at 
12:45 or whatever it was, which 

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is what it did and yet they 
didn't have to play anybody over

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36 minutes, Miller cop, I think,
for the first time, all season 

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led the team in minutes put your
fee. 

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No only played 32. 
Trace Jackson Davis, got five 

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minutes off. 
That rest is going to be 

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critical as they take on Miami, 
which we're going to talk about 

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a little later on in the 
podcast. 

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But first we wanted to take a 
little intermission. 

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And we're going to bring our 
friend Zack singer from the 

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bracket racket in Zach. 
First of all, good morning and 

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congratulations on UConn's 
victory over Rick Pitino. 

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We were all told that Pitino was
going to win that game by 30. 

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So much like our game. 
I'm actually surprised. 

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They even had it in the first 
place, you know. 

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Yeah. 
No. 

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And the shocking development, 
much like Kent State turns out 

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the coaches. 
Don't actually get to play in 

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the basketball game. 
The basketball players do and 

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Rick hasn't got the guys, he'll 
have the guys at st. 

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John's or Providence or 
Georgetown for all? 

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Three, who knows? 
But yeah, no, we're very similar

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fan base, is not just dumb 
friends with you, and with 

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what's in Scotts. 
Great. 

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But like true fan, bases of 
powerful basketball programs. 

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That needed a win yesterday. 
More than oxygen. 

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Yes. 
And unbeknownst to you. 

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You were also given a gift from 
God. 

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Indiana, kids being born 
marriage, Purdue eating shit 

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like that. 
I I was thrilled with Yukons 

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performance in the second half, 
especially Adama was great, and 

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of course, our programs are in 
the same damn godforsaken 

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Northeast stereotypical useless 
building, but but yeah, no, I'm 

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thrilled. 
We get to play st. 

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Mary's, we played them once 
randomly in a by game and it was

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seven so that we get to play 
them again. 

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Yeah, but yeah, I'm excited for 
it but we sent excited as the 

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reason I'm here. 
We got it, boy, howdy. 

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We we talked week I I called 
Zach after the, I you win 

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largely so we could talk about 
the Purdue loss because this is 

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Zach what I told you. 
And what I was telling, Scott 

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before we got started this is I 
actually think that we haven't 

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seen an explanation about how 
historically bad this loss is 

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like everybody was like oh 
second time of 16 seeds ever 

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beaten. 
The one that's true but not all 

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16 seeds are created equal. 
And I think that I mean, when 

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you go back and you look at 
Virginia losing to to UMBC back 

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in, what was it 2018? 
You know, that was a Virginia 

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team that was 31 and to, they 
play a UMBC team. 

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That's from the America East 
conference, which is a decent 

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conference. 
It's certainly better but it's 

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not well, no, no. 
By orders of magnitude though 

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it's better than the Northeast 
conference and it's important to

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know. 
Note, when you talk about UMBC, 

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you are talking about the 
American East champions. 

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This is not the Northeast 
conference champion of the 

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regular season or the 
postseason. 

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This is a legally designated 
representative. 

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This is putting someone with 
power of attorney, as Chief 

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Justice of the United States, 
Supreme Court that's basically 

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what happened. 
So this is I'm on here. 

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Specifically folks were, why do 
you bring quite crazy that Khan 

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as a sicko? 
I want a lot of NEC basketball, 

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folks. 
I'm not proud of it. 

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We all make choices in life. 
I want a lot of America East. 

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I watch a lot of any see this 
team doing this to Purdue is 

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easily the funniest thing that's
ever happened in the history of 

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Western Civilization. 
Well, let's rattle off and of 

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society, let's let we need to 
Rattle off some facts and 

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figures because there's really 
there's two gifts that have been

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given in this one is the state. 
Des of Fairleigh Dickinson. 

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So let me just rattle this list 
of facts off. 

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So this is a fairly Dickinson 
team that was ranked above 300 

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in can pom for the entire year. 
Was as you mentioned, neither 

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the regular season nor the 
tournament champion of the NEC 

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which was the worst Ken pom 
conference in the country. 

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This year was a team that went 
for and 22 last season hired a 

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division to coach to come in and
Coach this Year, they were 350 

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ninth in defense and Ken pom. 
Coming into this game. 

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There tallest player is 10 full 
inches shorter than Zack ET. 

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The the alleged National player 
of the year, the the team's 

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average height is 6 foot 1 which
is what 15 inches shorter than 

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the alleged National Player of 
the Year. 

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Zack, ET. 
And the only reason they're in 

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at all was because the two teams
that finished Ahead of them in 

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the conference were ineligible 
for the tournament because they 

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were transitioning from division
to, to division one, and there's

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a five year, probationary 
period. 

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So you're talking about a team 
that is a solid hundred and 

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fifty spots lower in Ken pom, 
then UMBC was when they beat 

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Virginia and Virginia. 
People forget had had a major 

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injury issue, so they weren't at
100% going into that game to 

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begin with. 
We're as Purdue as far as. 

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No, only had the injury of the 
entire weight of produced 

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00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:54,000
history hanging over them. 
So, I mean, Zach, you watch a 

447
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,100
lot of basketball, you know, the
statistics inside and that, go 

448
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,600
ahead Scott. 
Yes, it's nice want to chime in.

449
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,300
I have a couple more stats that 
I've about this as well. 

450
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:05,300
That just are insane. 
You can go to and zeros. 

451
00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:07,500
That's two is the number of 
Conference titles. 

452
00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:09,800
That Purdue is one this year and
zeros and member of the 

453
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:15,000
Fairleigh Dickinson is 19 
minutes and 20 Five seconds, 

454
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:19,100
that's how long said, Zach ET, 
the tallest guy on the court, 

455
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:21,800
went without scoring at the end 
of the game. 

456
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,600
Nine minute or taking a field 
goal, 23 and a half is the 

457
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:30,800
largest Point favorite ever to 
lose in the NCAA tournament to 

458
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,600
and 32, the Big Ten was a second
rank conference in the country 

459
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,300
this year, according to the net 
and the Northeast was 30-second 

460
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:40,500
dead. 
Last going to your Roger Sherman

461
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:43,600
had this tweet but Galen going 
to your height thing can Palm 

462
00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,800
has liked Teams ranked based on 
average. 

463
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:50,100
Height Purdue is the number one 
team in the country Fairleigh 

464
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:54,300
Dickinson is 363rd. 
They are literally last like it 

465
00:24:54,300 --> 00:24:55,900
is. 
My wife was an English teacher, 

466
00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:59,400
she hates us was like, this is 
literally a David versus Goliath

467
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,400
story. 
Like this is tallest versus 

468
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,900
smallest, two more. 
In the last three NCAA 

469
00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:11,000
tournaments, Matt Painter has 
lost to a 13, a 15 and a 16. 

470
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:16,900
So yeah, some pretty Wild stats 
when you put all that into into 

471
00:25:16,900 --> 00:25:19,600
account and we'll get to the 
individual play in a second. 

472
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,500
But Zack, like your what else 
capture, what do you take from 

473
00:25:22,500 --> 00:25:26,200
all of this. 
So, I'm into like coaching and 

474
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,100
stuff. 
Tobin Anderson's been a great 

475
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:32,100
coach wherever he was, he played
college basketball at Wesleyan 

476
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,700
Bill Belichick's alma mater in 
Middletown. 

477
00:25:34,900 --> 00:25:39,400
He coached it's eight, Thomas 
Aquinas, which is a it's called 

478
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,400
a college. 
It's basically the crap under 

479
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,800
one side of the, the Tappan Zee 
Bridge. 

480
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:48,100
And in that part of life, New 
York adjacent and he coached 

481
00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:52,800
that forever, he brought four of
his guys at Fairleigh Dickinson 

482
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:57,900
354th in division. 
One experience Fairleigh 

483
00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:02,600
Dickinson strength of non kind 
of check the schedule 334 on 

484
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,600
November 30th. 
They played a half mile away 

485
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:11,800
from me at Hartford on a court 
which has the logo for the for 

486
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,100
the east coast in the division. 
Three Vincent Hartford is 

487
00:26:15,100 --> 00:26:20,600
joining, they came and played 
here and lost I almost went. 

488
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,000
I didn't go and it's no 
hyperbole to say it is the 

489
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,700
greatest regret of my life. 
They came to Hartford lost to a 

490
00:26:28,700 --> 00:26:34,000
program that is loud quitting on
division, one lost to them. 

491
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,200
They were, they were three and 
six on that night. 

492
00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:41,500
They lost this year to Queens 
who's barely in D1. 

493
00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:46,600
They played Mercy, they Except 
Mary New Jersey which is 

494
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:50,200
gambling front. 
The Lost of them. 

495
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,300
Well, okay, so happened. 
So this is impossible. 

496
00:26:56,300 --> 00:26:59,400
I brought this up to you last 
night and and I actually think I

497
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,300
stumped you and this sounds like
hyperbole. 

498
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:04,800
But the reason we wanted to lay 
all these stats out, like this 

499
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,000
isn't just a huge upset, it's 
almost inconceivable. 

500
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,500
Like if you laid this down on 
paper in front of anybody that's

501
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:14,500
been involved in sports and you 
said this is going to Happen. 

502
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:16,800
They would say, get out of my 
office. 

503
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:23,400
There's no way in hell Zach is 
this the worst loss in the 

504
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,900
history of sports. 
I mean, 

505
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,300
Do Cameroon 1990. 
They had Roger Milla right 

506
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:52,600
against Argentina. 
This my man is rolling out. 

507
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:57,600
D 2 players against the national
Player of the Year air quotes in

508
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,000
their league Merrimack. 
Ineligible, yeah, win the 

509
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,100
conference title game in their 
league. 

510
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:06,800
Stonehill, been there. 
Five minutes gets the others 

511
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,800
that arouse key, is better than 
them. 

512
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:13,100
Also as an eligible they they 
claim the title game at Miramax,

513
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:16,400
hockey arena which is Is 
functionally a refrigerator and 

514
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,000
they lose by one. 
It doesn't matter because they 

515
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,500
won the semi-final against st. 
Francis Pennsylvania. 

516
00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:24,000
And they knew that the winner of
that game would get the bid 

517
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,500
because the Merrimack, they had 
like, 12 people in the Loretto 

518
00:28:27,500 --> 00:28:32,300
Center, which is there Court, 
whose Wikipedia page is 95% 

519
00:28:32,300 --> 00:28:36,600
about hosting toy conventions 
and presidential candidates for 

520
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,700
Jon Corzine. 
There is there isn't a picture 

521
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:43,700
of it on the Wikipedia page. 
We need to put one up. 

522
00:28:44,500 --> 00:28:46,500
The building is made entirely of
wood. 

523
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,300
It's modeled after our up in 
Maine. 

524
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:54,300
So the Northeast conference, I 
love it, but like there the end 

525
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:57,000
of every conference move. 
Yeah, like they're the ones at 

526
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,500
the bottom. 
Pulling up from D2 like 

527
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:00,700
Stonehill doesn't really have 
us. 

528
00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:04,600
Any Fairleigh Dickinson's S ID 
for men's basketball is a 

529
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:10,300
current undergraduate student 
that's that kids having the time

530
00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:15,400
of their life today, my God beat
produce Semi comfortably. 

531
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:19,500
Like this is why the tournament 
straight but also like Matt 

532
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:23,300
Painter really should be fired. 
Like really, really what can we 

533
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:24,800
write? 
And I want to get into the 

534
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,200
actual statistics of this. 
I want to go ahead. 

535
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,500
I want to answer the question 
you on that, like, I love, I 

536
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:32,000
love the idea of the worst loss 
in sports. 

537
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:34,600
Like, that's a great. 
It's a great thing to put on the

538
00:29:34,608 --> 00:29:37,700
mantle but no, I'm I'm doing a 
little, like, I wrote down my 

539
00:29:37,700 --> 00:29:40,200
list, as you guys were talking, 
like, and the thing is, like, 

540
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,100
you could go to, like, and I 
could debunk all these. 

541
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:44,700
If you go to like, you know, 
Tyson Buster, Douglas, It's like

542
00:29:44,700 --> 00:29:47,700
Tyson was still a champion. 
Like he had won some titles up 

543
00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:50,000
to that. 
Bully Buster, Douglas head for 

544
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,000
title shots before that. 
Yeah. 

545
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,400
For yeah, I didn't want and 
Tyson had a belt. 

546
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,500
He had that NES game like he had
a, he had a good run on his own.

547
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,100
You look at like the Buffalo 
Bills, they still made four 

548
00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:02,100
Super Bowls. 
Like that's the trouble is like,

549
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,100
you know, Buckner the 86 World 
Series, like that's still a team

550
00:30:06,100 --> 00:30:09,400
that made the World Series. 
Like the only one that does also

551
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,000
come to mind. 
Like college ball is like, you 

552
00:30:11,008 --> 00:30:13,300
know, Chaminade Virginia. 
But like, that's that's right, 

553
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:14,500
beginning of the season. 
Right? 

554
00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:16,900
Well, that's the thing. 
If he's in, and Samson still 

555
00:30:16,900 --> 00:30:20,600
went to the NBA finals. 
Like this is like the problem is

556
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:24,200
when I searched like the worst 
losses in sports history, all 

557
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,500
the teams are like in, you know?
Well, they lost the Super Bowl, 

558
00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:30,000
they lost the World Series if 
you still accomplish something. 

559
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,000
I mean, look, it's not a lot of 
first-round losses, like this, 

560
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,300
we had earlier this season. 
What we thought might have been 

561
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,900
the worst regular season loss in
college basketball history, when

562
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:42,900
Iowa lost at home to Eastern 
Illinois. 

563
00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:48,700
Illinois was 344th in Ken pom. 
They were they were worse than 

564
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:51,500
Fairleigh Dickinson was, but 
that was again, it was a regular

565
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,800
season game that game happened 
for three days before Christmas.

566
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,800
This was a tournament held. 
This was a tournament game, 

567
00:30:57,900 --> 00:31:01,800
okay, I know that's, why was all
this Fairleigh Dickinson stuff, 

568
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,000
like, we might even be having 
this pod if that game happened 

569
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,200
in Mackay, on December 24th. 
Yeah, well, you like we do, but 

570
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,400
what's was like, that's if this 
happened in December but holy 

571
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,800
what is going on. 
This And in the tournament but 

572
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,700
that's what it's worth. 
Let's let's get something like 

573
00:31:19,700 --> 00:31:26,100
Virginia had the why there's no 
tape of anything, right? 

574
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:30,100
Like it's an amazing upset but 
it's in Hawaii / lost at a 

575
00:31:30,108 --> 00:31:35,000
neutral site in Big, Ten, 
territory and territory. 

576
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,100
That's right, two balls, and all
of America. 

577
00:31:44,300 --> 00:31:49,000
The NEC representative of the 
last 25 years, like by writing 

578
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,900
them all I've seen Peter kiss. 
I have seen a lot of these teams

579
00:31:53,900 --> 00:31:56,800
that have come through and 
rolled through and Earl Potts. 

580
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,600
It fairly thick stick to the 
path Rashad whack at Mount. 

581
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,300
Saint Mary's, Jeremy Chappelle 
at Robert Morris like the best 

582
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:06,000
program. 
They had thousand Horizon 

583
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,400
League. 
They had a team go three-peat 

584
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000
and now isn't even the same 
school anymore hard and Long 

585
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,700
Island. 
Like there's not one Long 

586
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:14,800
Island. 
We had to We kind of got 

587
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,500
together and said, look, we 
can't have to st. 

588
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:19,700
Francis into Long Island, but we
gotta figure this out. 

589
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,100
He said, if one Long Island now 
that's like, given up and is 

590
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:26,400
hiring Rod Strickland. 
I want just legalized, they 

591
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,100
don't have a deal with ESPN. 
Plus, they have any sea front 

592
00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:32,600
row? 
They are their own streaming 

593
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,400
platform. 
Okay, they are at the end of the

594
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,500
abyss and their, their 
representative went to the first

595
00:32:40,500 --> 00:32:43,600
floor and it was the most 
obvious first Organics ever 

596
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,700
happened, Gail Talk about this 
for weeks ago, we're like any, 

597
00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,600
any see team because we knew it 
couldn't be stolen or Merrimack,

598
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,800
right? 
It's like Texas. 

599
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,500
Southern at 6:40 on Tuesday are 
actually given Wednesday game 

600
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:58,700
which is hilarious on Wednesday 
March 15th. 

601
00:32:58,700 --> 00:33:01,400
We know it and they went in 
there and they won comfortably 

602
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:05,200
but it was like that's nice. 33 
12 beats 303. 

603
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,900
Yeah. 
Pain Palm what an upset. 

604
00:33:06,900 --> 00:33:12,900
But, but surely surely even that
painter can't possibly find a 

605
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:18,000
way with Well, good basketball 
player on his team to run zero 

606
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,100
plays for the one good 
basketball player in the last 

607
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:25,500
three minutes and instead run 
them to for really not good. 

608
00:33:26,500 --> 00:33:28,400
All right. 
Well I just want to chime in 

609
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,900
too. 
It's also funny when you look at

610
00:33:29,900 --> 00:33:33,000
the Indy star like there's just 
a picture that they have and 

611
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,300
they I love this. 
Just must be an IU gratitude 

612
00:33:35,300 --> 00:33:37,000
this and well done. 
Like one of the pictures on top 

613
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,700
of the headlines is like just ET
posting up. 

614
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:42,400
And it literally looks like one 
of those like Manute, you know, 

615
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,400
Muggsy Bogues with other Be a 
player type pictures. 

616
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,900
Like he's posting up this dude, 
from Fairleigh Dickinson. 

617
00:33:47,900 --> 00:33:51,900
Whose head is, like, comfortably
under his armpit and you're just

618
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:55,300
like, how did this guy? 
Not touch it for 9 minutes. 

619
00:33:55,300 --> 00:33:58,100
Like, how did that team lose 
that game face on this one 

620
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:00,200
picture? 
We do need to talk about this 

621
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,100
and we've kind of talked about 
it. 

622
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:07,300
A bit with the Ed thing Edie 
have a I guess a quote unquote, 

623
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:11,300
good game, 21 points, 15 
rebounds but again he was 10 

624
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:13,800
inches taller than everybody 
else on the floor. 

625
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:19,800
And produce shot. 26 threes in 
this game in a game where they 

626
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,900
had an 8 inch height advantage 
in almost every position is 26 

627
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:27,100
degrees out and they did five of
them. 

628
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,000
You don't have to keep doing it.
My friend. 

629
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:50,900
I test Factor here like that's 
why I bought. 

630
00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:55,000
Yeah, I thought watching Arizona
with two Bella's failed to score

631
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,800
a point in the final five 
minutes, I thought there's no 

632
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,600
shirt. 
That's the thing like they watch

633
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:01,700
that happen. 
Yeah. 

634
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:03,400
And they said they must have 
thought. 

635
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:06,100
Well, we can't let this happen 
with Zach ET, right? 

636
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,300
We can't go five minutes and not
score a point, something to 

637
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:14,000
nine, nine and a half minutes, 
without a field goal attempt. 

638
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:16,500
That's like 25 percent of the 
game. 

639
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:27,800
He's not hard to find right? 
The moment I knew they were in 

640
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,900
trouble with his face. 
Yeah. 

641
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,400
Was it like the DN March Madness
and wasn't hitting it? 

642
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:50,000
This wasn't um be no. 
I'm on the run against Virginia,

643
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,600
hitting the shops and you really
hate the 10 minutes to go. 

644
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,400
You realize what? 
10 minutes to go in the Virginia

645
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,700
game? 
It was over because Virginia 

646
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:58,000
kit, Virginia hasn't amounted to
1500 runs. 

647
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,400
Since James Madison was a person
and not a school, okay? 

648
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:09,500
So like they were done. 
Then this was a situation let's 

649
00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:13,900
just give it to Becky I know. 
Well and what's Wild is just too

650
00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:15,600
Flesh out the statistical 
picture. 

651
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,800
What you're saying? 
This was a game where Fairleigh 

652
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,800
Dickinson scored under a point 
per possession, they shot 43. 

653
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:27,100
Puss, they shot 43% from to they
shot 30 percent from three. 

654
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,000
I mean, they hit 24. 
Total shots in this game. 

655
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,800
It's really Dickinson last 
hosted. 

656
00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:38,500
A Northeast Conference 
Championship game in 2006. 

657
00:36:38,500 --> 00:36:41,900
Yeah, they lost to Monmouth 
4948. 

658
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:48,000
They are like Don't even like, 
this is the program that's as 

659
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,400
you said for 2014. 
They haven't like won the 

660
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,800
regular season and get unlucky 
at the conference tournament 

661
00:36:54,100 --> 00:36:56,800
Fairleigh. 
Dickinson has been be, I would 

662
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,400
be loved to be fairly average 
last 50 years. 

663
00:36:59,500 --> 00:37:03,200
They just existed, you have it 
at Players, they've been good. 

664
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,500
They've been at fancy, save that
money and nobody that Lee has 

665
00:37:06,500 --> 00:37:11,000
any money and they were the 
third best team in the league. 

666
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:13,700
And they were, they were forced 
in. 

667
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,000
We played really well in the 
first for this is the way, I 

668
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,500
can't believe this is the NEC 
team that won a game. 

669
00:37:20,500 --> 00:37:22,700
This reinforces why I shouldn't 
watch this league. 

670
00:37:23,700 --> 00:37:51,900
I watch it. 
Robert Morris. 

671
00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:55,500
So it would fairly think it's 
it. 

672
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,100
As in the American Athletic 
Conference in two years, it's 

673
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:05,900
going to be great. 
No, it's great. 

674
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,300
It's great. 
Well, not good at basketball. 

675
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,000
Purdue need for like, I don't 
know where they even go. 

676
00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:18,400
Where do you go from here? 
What's the point? 

677
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:20,700
It's it's going to I'm 
fascinated to see. 

678
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:22,900
Nothing will change. 
We talked about this and it is 

679
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:25,300
amazing. 
Like as much as painter. 

680
00:38:26,100 --> 00:38:29,400
Everybody talks about how great 
of a coach painter is and and 

681
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,200
clearly he does some regular 
season things, right? 

682
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,600
But this is essentially what you
came to expect out of the gene 

683
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,600
Keady era at Purdue where they 
would have their best teams and 

684
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:43,400
they would lose and keep. 
Key moments. 

685
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,800
And that's what they've got 
again and you're looking at 

686
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:52,000
potentially a 50-year span of 
this with Purdue, he needs to be

687
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,300
the head and he needs to be in 
order to have snacks head coach,

688
00:38:55,000 --> 00:39:14,100
both parties. 
It says, actually they should 

689
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:17,000
have one last night and they're 
just going to keep doing this 

690
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:20,100
instead of, I don't know, maybe 
having a little introspection on

691
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:25,200
against a 21 and 15 like a 21 
and 15-yard. 

692
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,100
As you can see 15 losses on a 
non major Conference record. 

693
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:32,700
This time of year on the team 
still playing like this, is it 

694
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,200
like the eighth place Big 12 
team. 

695
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:41,900
This is a bad nect, man. 
Was at what I kind of the 

696
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,000
funniest part. 
Florida, Atlantic. 

697
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,600
Close their doors. 
Yes, 

698
00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:15,800
that has happened. 
Hundreds cotton 353 and defense 

699
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,300
defense. 
They win championships but you 

700
00:40:19,300 --> 00:40:22,500
do not need it to be produced. 
I'd like to note that will end 

701
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:25,600
on this produce adjusted 
offensive efficiency in last 

702
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,500
night's game. 
The regular offensive visually 

703
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:30,400
was bad enough but they're 
adjusted was 80 3.1? 

704
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,000
Like that's how bad the 
performance was. 

705
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,900
That's that is that's almost 
indescribably bad for a regular 

706
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:41,400
like run-of-the-mill bad team 
but for a one seed to turn in 

707
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,000
that kind of an offense. 
Performance against this bad of 

708
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,700
a defensive team, based on all 
the evidence of the season is 

709
00:40:47,700 --> 00:40:50,300
mind-blowing. 
It really is Galen. 

710
00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:53,800
We do been Latin you drove in 
last night to be okay. 

711
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,000
Makes sense to produce towards 
the game score. 

712
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,800
I hadn't checked on Fairleigh 
Dickinson. 

713
00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:03,000
It wasn't 96, I was kind of 
hoping it was like 75. 

714
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,500
Yeah, this is there, they had an
idea. 

715
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,300
The torvik score. 
It's a 0 to 100 score. 

716
00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:18,900
For those who haven't been on 
torvik, which is basically, like

717
00:41:18,900 --> 00:41:21,200
how well did you play, and what 
did you do? 

718
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,900
Well, and you can have a good 
game score, but lose, you have a

719
00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,000
bad game. 
Swear win. 

720
00:41:25,300 --> 00:41:28,900
This was produced worst score by
like a couple of orders of 

721
00:41:28,908 --> 00:41:32,700
magnitude from what their 
previous worst was her do. 

722
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:37,200
I'm sorry Fairleigh Dickinson, 
the juror has now played 36 

723
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,400
games basically a quarter of 
their season. 

724
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,300
They have a game score less than
10. 

725
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,100
Yes, they had a three against 
Saint Peter's to against 

726
00:41:47,100 --> 00:41:49,600
Hartford, and I didn't know you 
could do this. 

727
00:41:49,700 --> 00:41:53,800
They had a zero against Richmond
and they are in the round of 32.

728
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:58,000
It's the greatest dumbest 
sporting event on Earth, it's 

729
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,600
amazing. 
I love it from the produced by 

730
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,500
the thing that I was thinking 
about was like I have a neighbor

731
00:42:03,500 --> 00:42:06,700
who's a Purdue grad, it's awful 
but like You know, they're 

732
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:14,000
sending stuttering kind of 
wondering where their, you know,

733
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,500
it's like he was sending me 
these memes of like, you know, 

734
00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:20,000
the projected standings and 
like, the current you'll protect

735
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,100
his chance to be in the top and 
like currencies, like your 

736
00:42:22,107 --> 00:42:24,400
produce the top and kind of 
this, like, you know, little 

737
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,600
brother's big brother and like, 
how many times they've won? 

738
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,100
It's like, all right. 
Like you're getting big 

739
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:30,200
yourself. 
And then for this to happen, 

740
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,200
there is a feel of like, you 
know, hey man, you tried to 

741
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,100
years, the big boy table at 
Thanksgiving. 

742
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:39,300
Like, how about you? 
This is why you're the little 

743
00:42:39,300 --> 00:42:41,700
brother, you can make all the 
fun you want, the bit, the 

744
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:45,500
Banners are dusty, and like some
teams lose first, round games, 

745
00:42:45,500 --> 00:42:48,700
it happens. 
But like, this is epically bad. 

746
00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:52,700
This is a 1, well liked and you 
no longer your 50 more years. 

747
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:55,500
You're off the big boy table. 
This is, this is what I'll end 

748
00:42:55,500 --> 00:42:57,400
with and we'll get Zack out of 
here on this. 

749
00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:00,800
As I said at the beginning, this
is a gift that Purdue has given 

750
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,500
IU fans that will last 50 years.
It will last two or three 

751
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:08,600
generations. 
It's because if we will always 

752
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,600
look back and a we will be able 
to say Purdue lost is a one seed

753
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,700
to a 16. 
We will also be able to say 

754
00:43:15,700 --> 00:43:19,800
Purdue not only lost as a 1 2 is
16, they lost to the worst one 

755
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,600
of the worst 16 seeds in history
ever ever. 

756
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:28,400
Ever not just not just like 
everywhere I go back and look at

757
00:43:28,408 --> 00:43:31,900
losing record, 16 teams that 
were better than this team. 

758
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,900
Yes, 100%. 
So the this is why we wanted to 

759
00:43:35,908 --> 00:43:37,500
die. 
I've into this if you think that

760
00:43:37,500 --> 00:43:39,900
it's being mean, we're just 
trying to give you the full 

761
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:43,200
breadth of exactly how bad this 
was. 

762
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,500
Because I really don't. 
I mean right at the end it was 

763
00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:47,000
like well let's not make it 
about Purdue. 

764
00:43:47,100 --> 00:43:50,400
Let's make it about Fairleigh 
Dickinson and it's like no we 

765
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:53,100
need to make it at least a 
little bit about Purdue because 

766
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:57,600
this is one of those historic 
losses that you just can't. 

767
00:43:57,700 --> 00:44:01,300
As a program, get rid of you 
can't just say, oh we had a bad 

768
00:44:01,300 --> 00:44:03,800
day here. 
There's like no you cannot have 

769
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,700
a bad day and lose this game. 
Against this bad of a team 

770
00:44:07,900 --> 00:44:10,700
they've got to pick up the 
entire campus and move it 10 

771
00:44:10,700 --> 00:44:17,200
miles Virginia won a title and 
people are still like but it's 

772
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:18,700
the year after they lost as a 
one. 

773
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:21,600
I mean like they can't shake 
that even with a title. 

774
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,300
Yeah and you wouldn't be see was
really good. 

775
00:44:24,300 --> 00:44:25,700
America is team. 
Yeah. 

776
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:35,500
But I like when it happened I 
was like that's what I'm looking

777
00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:41,100
at. 
For me it's my I'm debating 

778
00:44:41,100 --> 00:44:44,100
whether or not to use that 
Thursday night and my wife's out

779
00:44:44,100 --> 00:44:49,500
of town. 
Well yes 

780
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:05,900
I mean you would have seen the 
seeds of History Dylan. 

781
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:10,200
I don't think they do not serve 
Refreshments at Hartford soda. 

782
00:45:10,300 --> 00:45:13,200
You cannot I'm not even kidding,
you can't buy Eminem's, I've 

783
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,900
never seen it. 
The entire pork was covered with

784
00:45:15,900 --> 00:45:18,300
a sticker over the Americas logo
because they're going division, 

785
00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:21,700
three and they comfortably beat 
the team that just not produ out

786
00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:23,400
because they thought they can 
shoot threes. 

787
00:45:23,700 --> 00:45:25,600
There's that. 
Give it to the big guy. 

788
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,400
There's there's no better way to
end this segment. 

789
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,100
Zach, thank you for joining us. 
Just tremendous tremendous 

790
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:35,300
theater. 
Thanks man, have a good one. 

791
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:42,500
Fairleigh Dickinson price. 
Well, there you go Scott that 

792
00:45:43,300 --> 00:45:45,000
hold on. 
I can't let it go quite yet. 

793
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,600
I just want to ask you from 
without Zach because just we're 

794
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,200
very focused on Purdue, he will 
not. 

795
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:53,000
This is this this would be a 
question, I'd ask me, we got off

796
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,800
the pot, which is do it on. 
He, they're not going to fire 

797
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,000
painter but like, how do you 
recover from this? 

798
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,100
Because again, well, I go to the
Virginia thing, like it's to me,

799
00:46:01,100 --> 00:46:03,400
it's always a two-year Saga. 
Like, that's the story of like 

800
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,600
man. 
They came back and won a title. 

801
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,500
But like I said, they want an 
effing title and yet, I still 

802
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:12,200
think like Those it's connected 
with the one seed loss, like, 

803
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:16,000
it's like winning a title. 
Doesn't get rid of this stain. 

804
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,900
Like that is literally how bad 
this is. 

805
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,700
Look at the end of it all. 
I think the problem is, first of

806
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:25,600
all painter is, he's a great 
dude. 

807
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:29,900
From what everybody said, and he
clearly is able to construct 

808
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:33,300
something that works during the 
regular season taking advantage 

809
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,700
of the way, the Big Ten referees
its games. 

810
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:43,900
And unfortunately, I think You 
know what gives her do a leg up 

811
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:48,700
in the Big Ten just disappears 
in the tournament and there was 

812
00:46:48,700 --> 00:46:52,300
a good article, I think it was 
Dan Walken was writing about 

813
00:46:52,300 --> 00:46:54,900
this and it's like, okay, you've
tried this formula multiple 

814
00:46:54,900 --> 00:46:57,500
times. 
Now, you know, whether it was 

815
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:01,400
with Edie now, two years in a 
row, you know, going back, you 

816
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,600
can look at some of the teams 
that they've had before. 

817
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,100
Like, you know, everybody talks 
about Purdue being like, big 

818
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:12,200
man, you or whatever, you know. 
You you just it's not working in

819
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,700
the tournament because it's too 
easy. 

820
00:47:13,700 --> 00:47:17,500
It's kind of like when the 
Pacers went all in on the idea 

821
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:21,800
that hey, we can win a title 
with Roy Hibbert as a focal 

822
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:25,000
point of our offense and it's 
like sorry guys that era ended 

823
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:29,100
15 years ago and you can get to 
a certain point if your Purdue 

824
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:32,100
and that painter, you can win a 
Big Ten title, especially if 

825
00:47:32,107 --> 00:47:34,500
you've got the 13th easiest 
schedule in the conference that 

826
00:47:34,500 --> 00:47:38,000
certainly helps. 
But but you're almost certain 

827
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,200
now to go to the tournament and 
find yourself in a position 

828
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,800
where you're going to struggle. 
I mean, you know, the best team 

829
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,500
this was brought up by a friend 
of mine who covers Purdue, they 

830
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:51,100
know the best of their team's 
was the one that had Matt harms 

831
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,600
and he was not like the primary 
focal point of the offense. 

832
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,500
It wasn't it wasn't the same 
kind of system, you know, if 

833
00:47:58,500 --> 00:48:00,700
your painter and Purdue first of
all. 

834
00:48:02,500 --> 00:48:06,400
You know, Purdue this is 
essentially, it kind of resets 

835
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,600
the whole perspective on 
Purdue's program again because 

836
00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:14,000
this again and I the reason why 
we're harping on this a little 

837
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,700
bit is it? 
This is a it's like a it's a 

838
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:21,200
reputation Ali changing loss in 
the worst possible way because 

839
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,300
it's just always going to be 
there, it can, it will affect. 

840
00:48:24,300 --> 00:48:26,600
I'm actually I'm hoping that we 
can get home field to 

841
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,800
surreptitiously. 
Just make a bunch of shirts with

842
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,800
the number 16 on them that we 
can wear. 

843
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:35,900
And that font that is right in 
the Purdue fought just. 

844
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:37,500
Just just, just have those out 
there. 

845
00:48:37,500 --> 00:48:42,400
No other contexts nothing, you 
know, if your painter now you 

846
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:47,300
have essentially to say, alright
what do I, how do I fix the 

847
00:48:47,300 --> 00:48:49,200
approach here? 
Because he's going to keep 

848
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,800
pulling in these big man 
recruits because that's the mo, 

849
00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:55,300
but this is no longer, the type 
of game college basketball, 

850
00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:59,400
where you can win like that. 
And I think ultimately nothing 

851
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,700
changes up there in terms of 
like, they're not going to fire 

852
00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:02,800
paint. 
A painter's not going to go 

853
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:08,700
anywhere else but until he kind 
of rounds the bend and decides, 

854
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:11,000
you know what, we're going to 
try to roll with a more modern 

855
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:14,700
approach to things where this 
isn't our focal point. 

856
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:16,800
We're going to be the same kind 
of team where it's like what 

857
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:18,300
we're winning in the regular 
season. 

858
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,000
We're not winning in the 
tournament. 

859
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,200
You cannot go through a whole 
season Mega slow and focusing 

860
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,000
entirely on offensive rebounding
because if you get in a game 

861
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,200
like this and it doesn't work, 
you have no other recourse. 

862
00:49:31,300 --> 00:49:35,300
And unless you've I've got to 
like athletic guards that can 

863
00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:37,900
draw Defenders away, which they 
didn't have this year. 

864
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,900
You're going to be in 
significant trouble and the same

865
00:49:39,900 --> 00:49:42,000
thing happened last year. 
It's not like this is a new 

866
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,900
thing. 
Well, they the problem is your 

867
00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:47,900
they had that they had Jade IV 
last child and they couldn't use

868
00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:49,400
it correctly. 
It's like they have the same 

869
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:51,400
thing and they have the same 
problem at least, at least they 

870
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,200
beat Yale last year in the first
round, you know. 

871
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,800
Yeah, but it's but it's but it's
like it's just so wonderful that

872
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,600
like, it all plays into the 
narrative like the narrative is,

873
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,300
you know. 
Yeah, they've had better 

874
00:50:03,300 --> 00:50:05,800
regular-season. 
Success, our banners are dusty 

875
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,700
fine, but like the narrative 
always is but like in the end 

876
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:13,400
Purdue can't get it done when it
matters and we can and that that

877
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:17,300
Drives them nuts and it's never 
more evident than this and yeah 

878
00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:21,100
it's not just going to live on 
like it is you know next year or

879
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:23,000
two years from now they're doing
great and like they're number 

880
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,100
one in the country it's like 
yeah who cares if you're gonna 

881
00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:28,900
screw it up like we're still 
pissed about losing that year to

882
00:50:28,900 --> 00:50:31,500
Syracuse. 
That was the 360 right? 

883
00:50:31,500 --> 00:50:34,800
Like I mean and that sucked and 
we're not happy about it that 

884
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,800
was still a sweet 16 now this 
will stay forever and eat you 

885
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:43,000
know painter will have to win a 
title and maybe even two to 

886
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:45,700
clear his name. 
This is because the thing is, I 

887
00:50:45,700 --> 00:50:49,200
mean, let's talk because let's 
just you already had just make a

888
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:52,000
final four. 
I mean, that's I mean, like walk

889
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,000
before you run on that but but 
you're right. 

890
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,300
I mean that's that's the thing 
and what - we promise he already

891
00:50:57,300 --> 00:50:59,900
had the history of this. 
Like it was already like the 

892
00:50:59,900 --> 00:51:02,400
ater was there like the fuel. 
He said he had great teams, 

893
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:06,200
can't make the final four and 
then you lay this on top of it 

894
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,600
is it's man like I mean you do 
Wonder like is this going to 

895
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:14,500
hurt recruiting? 
Like, I just how how do Do you 

896
00:51:14,508 --> 00:51:18,800
know what I love everything 
about and I will wrap with this.

897
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,600
It was just so nice to then. 
See in contrast our team that 

898
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,700
night playing with passion, 
playing with effort, it is 

899
00:51:26,700 --> 00:51:32,100
having a very professional 
Workman like experience and just

900
00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:34,300
kind of showing the Stark 
difference in this year. 

901
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:38,000
Like yeah, we got it done and we
got it done like professionals. 

902
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,300
You guys were screwing around 
with it, trying to be a kid at 

903
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,800
the adults table. 
I mean, and we'll let it Alone 

904
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,400
for now, we didn't talk this 
much about Purdue losing the 

905
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:50,000
Saint Peter's last time because 
I mean and I thought that was 

906
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,800
pretty epic and that was pretty 
funny but you know, Saint 

907
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,000
Peter's had beaten Kentucky so 
on and so forth. 

908
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:58,300
I mean, this is this is just a 
level of historic loss that you 

909
00:51:58,300 --> 00:52:00,700
have to stop. 
You have to take 25 30 minutes 

910
00:52:00,700 --> 00:52:05,100
and talk through. 
So it's gonna be fascinating to 

911
00:52:05,107 --> 00:52:08,400
watch the further fall out and 
reaction as we move forward. 

912
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,700
Anyway, let's jump over to 
talking about teams that are 

913
00:52:12,700 --> 00:52:15,100
playing on this team. 
We're playing on Sunday, Miami 

914
00:52:15,100 --> 00:52:19,700
of Florida, they beat drainable 
the gala for the Galen. 

915
00:52:19,700 --> 00:52:27,400
The Galen Invitational, Miami 
was a popular upset pick and 

916
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:31,700
almost became the upset. 
They played really badly. 

917
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:37,700
Most of the game Drake was up, 
55 247, with under five minutes 

918
00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:40,700
to play in this game. 
And Miami went on a 16 to one. 

919
00:52:40,700 --> 00:52:43,400
Run down the stretch Drake, went
ice cold. 

920
00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:48,000
Old and Miami ends up winning 
the game. 63 256. 

921
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:51,400
Fortunately, for IU fans, they 
wrapped it up relatively 

922
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,900
quickly. 
It allowed our game to tip 

923
00:52:52,900 --> 00:52:54,700
before 11:00, which I 
appreciate. 

924
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,700
So we can talk about that game. 
A little bit in that Miami had 

925
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,900
by their standards and atrocious
game offensively. 

926
00:53:02,900 --> 00:53:06,100
They scored point 91 points per 
possession, this is a Miami 

927
00:53:06,100 --> 00:53:10,000
team, whose entire stock in 
trade is playing some of the 

928
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,500
best offensive basketball in the
country. 

929
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:16,200
They They have been excellent 
All Season. 

930
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:19,500
They're a good to point shooting
team, they're a good three-point

931
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:21,800
shooting team. 
They've got a really good set of

932
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:25,100
guards, you know, which you 
might have heard of that. 

933
00:53:25,100 --> 00:53:28,600
They've got Isaiah Wong, they've
got Nigel pack, who almost 

934
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:32,100
ironically almost transferred to
Purdue, but instead transferred 

935
00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,100
to Miami Florida in the 
offseason came from Kansas State

936
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,300
and then they, you know, they're
an interesting team. 

937
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:40,500
Like they're not very big, 
they're actually kind of similar

938
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:42,600
to Kent State in that regard and
that they don't have anybody 

939
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,300
over 69. 
And Drake to their credit. 

940
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:50,000
Really gummed up what Miami was 
trying to do, overall, Miami 

941
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
ended up shooting 33% from 
three. 

942
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:55,700
Twenty nine percent from two, 
which is hard to do. 

943
00:53:55,800 --> 00:54:00,200
Miami, largely survived on free,
throw shooting but you know, 

944
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,300
overall, just not really a good 
game. 

945
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:06,400
And frankly, I'm actually kind 
of surprised after Drake was 

946
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,400
leading by eight with so little 
time left that they figured out 

947
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,000
a way back into it and came 
back. 

948
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:15,800
You know Scott we talked About 
this matchup is a possibility. 

949
00:54:16,500 --> 00:54:20,800
It's a real interesting contrast
in Styles, obviously, I think if

950
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,200
Indiana plays the way that 
Indiana played on Friday and 

951
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,600
Miami plays the way that Miami 
played on Friday. 

952
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:29,800
Indiana should be the favorite 
and would should win the game. 

953
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,800
You can't really count on that 
in March because you can go from

954
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,300
really playing bad to really 
play in good over the course of 

955
00:54:36,300 --> 00:54:40,000
48 hours. 
But overall when I look at this 

956
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:44,400
Miami team, I'm thinking to 
myself I you can win this game 

957
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,600
even if Miami plays 
significantly better if they 

958
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,500
play with the same level of 
defensive intensity that they 

959
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:53,900
brought to the game against Kent
State, what are your initial 

960
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:58,600
thoughts on this matchup? 
Yeah, I mean what's concerning 

961
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,300
is kind of the offense that 
Miami can offer their not a 

962
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:02,900
great, three-point shooting 
team. 

963
00:55:02,900 --> 00:55:06,000
They're also not bad. 
And what's concerning is the 

964
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:09,000
interplay you've talked about 
this year is that if Miami gets 

965
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,000
hot on offense and our defense, 
it doesn't keep that intensity 

966
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:16,300
it bleeds into our offense than 
a normally they kind of stagnate

967
00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:19,000
together. 
And then that's a very bad 

968
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,900
recipe. 
That that's what I worry about 

969
00:55:21,900 --> 00:55:23,600
with a team. 
Like Miami that has that ability

970
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,500
to score but I mean, you know, 
Not great. 

971
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:30,300
Analysis are like we are now 
past the point every team is 

972
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:32,100
good. 
Kent State has some holes. 

973
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:34,200
Like we're now into the point 
where every team is going to be 

974
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,800
good and pose problems and I 
think it comes down to more 

975
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,300
anything else. 
Like I've been saying for a 

976
00:55:39,308 --> 00:55:43,400
couple weeks now like if this 
team plays with a kind of 

977
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,500
intensity and focus of played 
with last night, they will be 

978
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:48,600
able to compete with any team 
left in this tournament. 

979
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,000
I truly believe that like, yeah,
it's really up to them and if 

980
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,500
they play it that way, yeah 
other teams are going to throw 

981
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:56,400
some rent. 
Here and there and do things we 

982
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,800
can't do. 
But we looked we looked very 

983
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:01,100
good. 
Last night was a unbeatable. 

984
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:03,700
We looked like we can compete 
with anybody in the country. 

985
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:08,100
What I also like is that you 
play another team, that is not 

986
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,100
huge. 
So I mean you have like their 

987
00:56:10,100 --> 00:56:14,600
tallest guy is, you know, Miller
and omere or both 67. 

988
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:18,300
That's that's the tall I guess. 
Anthony Walker is 69, he plays 

989
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:21,900
very little you know, your Trace
is going to have another an 

990
00:56:21,900 --> 00:56:25,000
ability to kind of control the 
lane like he did again. 

991
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,400
If there are some interesting 
aspects to this matchup but I 

992
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,400
think a fascinating one of the 
things that people criticize 

993
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,900
Indiana about is there a really 
good 3-point shooting team and 

994
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:37,300
they don't take nearly enough. 
Threes Indiana is 355th in the 

995
00:56:37,300 --> 00:56:41,300
country at three-point rate 
basically which is basically 

996
00:56:41,300 --> 00:56:43,500
where you take your three point 
attempts you divide them by your

997
00:56:43,500 --> 00:56:46,300
overall field. 
Goal attempts 355th in the 

998
00:56:46,308 --> 00:56:52,100
country 26.2% is that rate. 
Miami is not that much more 

999
00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:55,800
oriented towards the three there
268th in the Which is still 

1000
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,600
pretty low. 
So, you know, these two teams 

1001
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,400
really do kind of mirror each 
other in some ways Miami's 

1002
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:06,500
better offensively by a bit. 
I mean, I use the 24th best 

1003
00:57:06,500 --> 00:57:10,000
offense in the country in terms 
of efficiency, Miami's 12, the 

1004
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:14,300
difference is Indiana is a top 
50 defensive team and Miami is 

1005
00:57:14,300 --> 00:57:18,400
ranked 112th. 
This is not a Miami team that 

1006
00:57:18,500 --> 00:57:22,200
you go in and you expect to do a
huge amount in terms of 

1007
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,400
Defending, and Where I get 
excited about. 

1008
00:57:26,400 --> 00:57:29,500
This is also that you know, the 
other, the big Achilles heel for

1009
00:57:29,500 --> 00:57:32,500
Indiana has been there. 
I don't have a deep bench, you 

1010
00:57:32,500 --> 00:57:33,800
know. 
Indiana over the course of the 

1011
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:37,000
Season, you look at bench 
minutes that because they have 

1012
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,600
such a tight rotation of about 
seven players that they've been 

1013
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,500
at their 220th in the country in
bench minutes about twenty, nine

1014
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:45,700
point four percent of total 
minutes played by the bench. 

1015
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,600
Miami is 322nd in the country 
and bench minutes, twenty four 

1016
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,600
percent of their minutes come 
off the bench. 

1017
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,200
So this is an even more starter 
oriented team. 

1018
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:59,400
They just really aren't that 
deep, you know, look Indiana's 

1019
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:02,900
had problems with really good, 
offensive teams, but they've had

1020
00:58:02,900 --> 00:58:04,900
problems with really good, 
offensive teams, that shoot, 

1021
00:58:04,900 --> 00:58:09,100
threes a bunch, and that's not 
really what Miami does. 

1022
00:58:09,100 --> 00:58:12,200
And you know, you look across, 
they've got a lot of guys that 

1023
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,200
shoot pretty well. 
I mean, they've got long shoots 

1024
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:21,200
38% pack shoots 40% Poplar. 
Shoots 41%, Joseph, shoots 38% 

1025
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:24,800
39 percent but the reality is, 
they're just not shooting that 

1026
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:28,000
many as The overall flow of 
their offense dictates and so 

1027
00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:32,400
what I saw yesterday defensively
out of, I use guards. 

1028
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,800
In particular, obviously put 
your fee, no Trey Galloway and 

1029
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,400
Tamar Bates. 
I was pretty impressed with what

1030
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:42,300
they were able to do. 
Much higher caliber of athlete 

1031
00:58:42,300 --> 00:58:44,900
here and I think the coaching is
going to be better. 

1032
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,000
Jim larranaga is a really, 
really good. 

1033
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,500
Coach gets the maximum out of 
this team, pretty much every 

1034
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:54,400
year, but I think as long as 
Indiana isn't overly fatigued 

1035
00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:56,900
from this game, Mm. 
And if they can, essentially 

1036
00:58:56,900 --> 00:58:59,900
duplicate the effort and 
intensity levels that they 

1037
00:58:59,900 --> 00:59:03,500
brought for this entire game. 
I think Indiana has to feel 

1038
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:07,200
fairly good about this matchup 
and I think that, I mean, there 

1039
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,600
are slight favorite there. 
Either a 1 or 2 point favorite 

1040
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,300
on the the gambling books. 
Right now, that's probably about

1041
00:59:13,300 --> 00:59:14,700
where I would have them. 
I think they have to be 

1042
00:59:14,700 --> 00:59:16,400
considered as a slight favorite 
overall. 

1043
00:59:17,700 --> 00:59:20,300
Yeah, I mean the only concern is
that you're asking for things. 

1044
00:59:20,300 --> 00:59:22,300
This team just doesn't have a 
history of doing this year of 

1045
00:59:22,308 --> 00:59:25,300
kind of putting together 
back-to-back, you know, really 

1046
00:59:25,300 --> 00:59:27,500
good games and having another 40
minute stretch. 

1047
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:30,100
They seen locked in for the 
entire game is that they've been

1048
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:32,600
inconsistent in that? 
And that's that's the concern 

1049
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:35,600
but I will go to again. 
Something you've talked about 

1050
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,500
like just the psyche of this 
team you know you always having 

1051
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:42,400
the bracket break well for you 
is nice and like yeah probably 

1052
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:47,800
rather be playing Drake tomorrow
then Miami but you know, it's I 

1053
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,600
think there is something to, you
know, had they looked across and

1054
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,200
saw Drake on the uniform. 
Maybe they mentally let 

1055
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:56,100
themselves. 
Let their guard down a little 

1056
00:59:56,100 --> 00:59:59,000
bit and Drake, it's into it. 
Like there really should be no 

1057
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:00,500
reason. 
You see Miami? 

1058
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:02,500
Like, it's a team of notice the 
power 5 team. 

1059
01:00:02,500 --> 01:00:04,300
It's a Well cauchy McGee. 
Said, the athletes are going to 

1060
01:00:04,300 --> 01:00:07,300
be there like you they'll know 
very early on they're in for a 

1061
01:00:07,300 --> 01:00:12,500
fight and you do wonder if you 
know that, that helps keep that 

1062
01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:15,200
that lock in mentality for the 
game. 

1063
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,200
Yeah. 
I think It comes out. 

1064
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,900
If they play the way they did 
last night, they're going to, 

1065
01:00:19,900 --> 01:00:22,800
they're going to be Miami. 
That's just that is the case. 

1066
01:00:23,300 --> 01:00:26,200
It's going to be fascinating to 
watch all this play out. 

1067
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,600
You know, we talked about it on 
the impromptu live show. 

1068
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:34,200
I did walking out of switch yard
last night, but Indiana does get

1069
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,400
the second to last game late 
game. 

1070
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,800
And I look, I'll tip as critical
as I've been of CBS and of the 

1071
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:43,900
NCAA for not, considering those 
things, you know, I can remember

1072
01:00:43,900 --> 01:00:47,000
several times where I you was 
the late game in the night era. 

1073
01:00:47,200 --> 01:00:51,000
Yeah, and then played the 12:10 
game on the weekend, which is 

1074
01:00:51,008 --> 01:00:54,500
like, what are we doing? 
They get almost, they don't get 

1075
01:00:54,500 --> 01:00:57,800
a full 48 hours, but they're 
going to get essentially 43 

1076
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,800
hours and they only get 2 hours 
and 15 minutes to 15 to 30 less 

1077
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,300
than Miami's going to get to 
rest. 

1078
01:01:03,300 --> 01:01:07,900
And they had a less fraught game
than Miami did. 

1079
01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:11,900
And I do think that those things
add up, I also will say this, 

1080
01:01:11,900 --> 01:01:16,200
Miami team is, again, I think 
they are a team to be concerned 

1081
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,400
about but Don't know that, 
they're necessarily A team that,

1082
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:23,700
you know, you would fear you 
look at what they did last year 

1083
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,900
and they went to the elite 
eight, which was a surprise but 

1084
01:01:27,900 --> 01:01:32,200
they kind of, I'm not, I don't 
want to diminish that run but 

1085
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,300
was for what was fascinating 
about that run? 

1086
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:37,500
Was who they got to play. 
They barely beat USC in the 

1087
01:01:37,508 --> 01:01:40,200
first round. 
That seems to be, however, USC, 

1088
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,700
Tournament game goes USC, barely
losing to, whoever they're 

1089
01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:46,000
playing, they played Auburn. 
And Auburn was a really good 

1090
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,400
team. 
Last year in Auburn, Just 

1091
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,500
completely forgot how to score 
the basketball in the game 

1092
01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:52,100
against. 
Miami my Miami team. 

1093
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:54,200
Again, that was not very good 
defensively, last year. 

1094
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,700
And then they played Iowa State,
who was another surprise entrant

1095
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,700
into the sweet 16. 
And they again, they ran into an

1096
01:02:01,700 --> 01:02:04,100
Iowa State team that just 
couldn't shoot the basketball 

1097
01:02:04,100 --> 01:02:06,000
very similar to what we saw at 
Iowa State, and their game 

1098
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,100
yesterday, Iowa State in that 
game shot, 18 percent from 

1099
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:11,300
three. 
So look, Indiana needs to be 

1100
01:02:11,300 --> 01:02:13,000
judicious with their shot 
selection. 

1101
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:16,800
I will, I would argue at this 
point that if you look at 

1102
01:02:16,808 --> 01:02:21,100
Miami's overall schedule, they 
haven't had a whole lot of games

1103
01:02:21,100 --> 01:02:25,600
that weren't at home, where they
had to where they were able to 

1104
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,800
successfully play against a 
player of the caliber of Trace 

1105
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:31,700
Jackson, Davis. 
And I also think that we're 

1106
01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:34,100
going to see Jalen Hood Fino 
step up in a much bigger way 

1107
01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:36,100
offensively in this next game 
because it's going to be very 

1108
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:40,000
much a guards game. 
You go down the list of the 

1109
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,600
games that Miami's played over 
the course of the season. 

1110
01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:46,300
And You know, they had a nice 
win at North Carolina, but North

1111
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:48,200
Carolina didn't didn't even make
the tournament. 

1112
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,000
They had a win at Virginia Tech.
Same thing didn't make the 

1113
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,800
tournament they lost in the 
second round of the ACC 

1114
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,700
tournament and you go through 
the rest of their schedule. 

1115
01:02:55,700 --> 01:02:58,300
And it's like, well, they were 
kind of home court heroes in a 

1116
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:01,600
way they really didn't have a 
whole lot that you would look at

1117
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,600
and say wow that was a 
tremendously impressive when 

1118
01:03:05,300 --> 01:03:08,100
that demonstrates that Miami is 
a top-level team. 

1119
01:03:08,100 --> 01:03:09,700
I mean, they beat Rutgers at 
home. 

1120
01:03:09,900 --> 01:03:13,600
So did Indiana, they beat 
Providence on a neutral floor? 

1121
01:03:13,700 --> 01:03:17,100
Or, you know, congratulations 
and at pretty much everything 

1122
01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:20,300
else that they did of note was 
on, it was on those at home and 

1123
01:03:20,300 --> 01:03:23,100
those are teams that generally 
struggle, a little bit when they

1124
01:03:23,100 --> 01:03:25,500
get to the tournament. 
So I think Indiana by the 

1125
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:28,900
metrics by everything else, you 
know, is a favored in this game,

1126
01:03:28,900 --> 01:03:30,500
they should be. 
It really does though. 

1127
01:03:30,500 --> 01:03:33,600
As you said Scott, come down to 
what energy level and what 

1128
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:36,000
effort level does Indiana come 
in with if they play with the 

1129
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,600
vibe that they played with 
against Kent State. 

1130
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,300
I'm not that worried, but as you
said, it's never a guarantee 

1131
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:44,600
with. 
Steam that that's what they're 

1132
01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:46,800
going to come in with and that's
going to be a really fascinating

1133
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:48,700
thing to watch. 
Yep. 

1134
01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:51,300
And I would say to you mentioned
kind of a home court hero thing.

1135
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:52,800
Like just just from watching on 
TV. 

1136
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,300
We're not no we're not in Albany
but it sound like there was a 

1137
01:03:55,300 --> 01:03:58,500
very good Indiana contingent 
there and then with a teams 

1138
01:03:58,500 --> 01:04:01,000
left, you're looking, you know, 
Indiana Miami the other two 

1139
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:04,800
teams playing in the MVP Arena, 
cute name for an arena Yukon and

1140
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,200
st. 
Mary's, like there's no, there's

1141
01:04:07,600 --> 01:04:10,200
no reason why you Khan fans have
anything against us. 

1142
01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,800
It like it's also nice to like 
this is, you know, just being 

1143
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,200
positive. 
What we see, you know, if you're

1144
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,800
a Yukon fan or your You're a 
Saint Mary's fan, you kind of 

1145
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:21,900
just like all right you know you
stick around and watch that 

1146
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:24,200
game. 
Like if we're playing Drake and 

1147
01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:26,500
then Drake's within five points 
like suddenly everyone in this 

1148
01:04:26,500 --> 01:04:28,400
place was not an IU fan. 
One strike to win. 

1149
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:29,500
Yeah. 
You don't really have that with 

1150
01:04:29,500 --> 01:04:32,800
Indiana Miami like it's if it's 
a good game people be fired up 

1151
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,000
but you're not going to have 
that. 

1152
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,500
That's always the concern in 
these games is that once the 

1153
01:04:37,500 --> 01:04:41,700
lower see, once a quote-unquote 
Cinderella, has a shot everyone 

1154
01:04:41,700 --> 01:04:43,400
and everyone's going for like 
suddenly. 

1155
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,600
Now you're back in the bunker 
and becomes a road game, like 

1156
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,000
this will be a home game for 
him. 

1157
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,900
A pseudo home game for Indiana 
based on the crowd that I heard 

1158
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,100
last night, just based on the 
teams that are there, that 

1159
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:57,000
should have the most fan 
contingent It's really 

1160
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,100
fascinating. 
I'm just happy Indiana still in 

1161
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:01,400
it and I'm glad they're going to
have. 

1162
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:04,100
It's gonna be a fun game. 
You know, it's interesting 

1163
01:05:04,100 --> 01:05:09,000
because Indiana has not had a 
lot of straight up. 45 matchups 

1164
01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:11,200
in their history. 
Yeah, you know, you and you go 

1165
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,600
back and when Indiana has been 
in that 45, you know, area, he 

1166
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,000
was the last, well, they're in 
the 32. 

1167
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:20,900
Well, well, right, so that was 
one of the rare ones where it's 

1168
01:05:20,900 --> 01:05:22,600
like, ooh, Indiana Indiana. 
Kentucky. 

1169
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,400
A five verses of for that was 
that was fun, you know. 

1170
01:05:26,500 --> 01:05:30,400
But the you figure in 2012, they
they should have played. 

1171
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:32,700
Who was it? 
Creighton yesi. 

1172
01:05:33,500 --> 01:05:37,200
No, not in 2000 in 2012. 
No. 

1173
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:38,700
Sorry, it was, it was Wichita, 
State. 

1174
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:40,400
Who was the five? 
It was, I knew was a Missouri 

1175
01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:44,100
Valley team but VCU upsets them.
That was shocked as like, 

1176
01:05:44,500 --> 01:05:49,100
second-best team at VCU and they
end up playing, you know, that 

1177
01:05:49,100 --> 01:05:52,000
team, I think they were a 12. 
Seed, you go all the way back 

1178
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,700
like you said to 2002 and 
Indiana's. 

1179
01:05:55,700 --> 01:05:58,700
The 5c And they don't get to 
play USC. 

1180
01:05:58,700 --> 01:06:02,300
Unc-wilmington beats them. 
So I'm excited about like a nice

1181
01:06:02,300 --> 01:06:05,600
matchup here between two, good 
teams from two very proud 

1182
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,000
conferences. 
And I like Indiana's, chances 

1183
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:09,900
overall should be a really, 
really fun game. 

1184
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:13,100
I'm looking forward to it. 
So, anyway, Scott, any final 

1185
01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:15,600
thoughts before we wrap up now, 
man? 

1186
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:18,300
Good day. 
Yesterday was a great day on all

1187
01:06:18,300 --> 01:06:20,900
accounts. 
Yeah, yeah, it's you don't get 

1188
01:06:20,900 --> 01:06:24,000
those sorts of good days that 
often but that was, you know, 

1189
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,900
Providence had managed to knock 
Kentucky off. 

1190
01:06:25,900 --> 01:06:29,000
That would have In like the Holy
Trinity of outcomes, but I'll 

1191
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,600
take it it was it was absolutely
amazing. 

1192
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,700
And like you said the Purdue 
lost was great. 

1193
01:06:34,700 --> 01:06:38,100
That will last for 50 years. 
Indiana playing as well as they 

1194
01:06:38,100 --> 01:06:41,500
did and coming away with a 
double-digit victory just was it

1195
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:42,900
was? 
That was the cake. 

1196
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:45,600
The Purdue game was the icing 
but the Indiana win. 

1197
01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:51,100
That was the cake anyway. 
We will be back, probably Monday

1198
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,400
because I think the Sunday game 
is gonna be a little late for us

1199
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,100
to do anything post game. 
So plan on hearing from Again on

1200
01:06:57,100 --> 01:06:59,700
Monday and we'll talk about what
happened. 

1201
01:06:59,700 --> 01:07:02,300
Hopefully, previewing Indiana 
with a trip to the Sweet 16. 

1202
01:07:02,300 --> 01:07:04,600
We'll see what happens. 
My thanks to everybody for 

1203
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,700
joining us. 
My thanks to our partners at the

1204
01:07:06,707 --> 01:07:09,700
back home network. 
Be sure to tune in Indiana. 

1205
01:07:09,700 --> 01:07:14,000
Women about to start playing. 
We're recording on on Saturday 

1206
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:17,500
morning and they're about to 
take on Tennessee Tech. 

1207
01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:20,800
I think it is in the 116 game 
and they'll have a game on 

1208
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,600
Monday as well. 
So, we'll preview that a little 

1209
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,300
bit, but be sure to check out 
the doing the work podcast. 

1210
01:07:26,900 --> 01:07:28,800
Through the back home, network, 
the Crimson cast women's 

1211
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,300
basketball show with Amanda 
Foster. 

1212
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:32,800
I might be popping on that next 
week to recap what happened in 

1213
01:07:32,800 --> 01:07:36,300
the first and second rounds. 
And yeah, stick with us. 

1214
01:07:36,500 --> 01:07:39,400
Thank you to home-field apparel.
We're looking forward to that 

1215
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,500
fdu merch. 
Get that out as quickly as 

1216
01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:44,900
possible. 
We'll have this mortars in as 

1217
01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:48,400
quickly as we can. 
Anyway, for Scott, I'm Galen and

1218
01:07:48,400 --> 01:07:51,100
for exact who joined us earlier,
this is Crimson cast. 

1219
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,400
We will catch you folks on the 
flip side, bring back the Bison,

1220
01:07:54,700 --> 01:07:56,700
go Hoosiers. 
So Buddy. 

1221
01:07:56,508 --> 01:07:56,700
Buddy.