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Cask ale and klaviyo Scott, Caulfield Saturday the 18th.
Second round day, one of the NCAA tournament. 15 one team
from Indiana, still alive. So we're going to talk about
that. We're going to talk about the
team. This is still alive, too because
we, we have to, but we're going to start talking about Indiana,
huge win in their opening round game as they knock off, Kent
State. Last night in Albany, New York,
71 260 we're going to break down what happened in the game.
Why Indiana was able to win? And, and what it tells us about
moving forward, we're going to talk about Purdue And they're
like epic historic gift that they've provided way, Indiana
fans for the next 50 years, which I'll explain.
And then we're going to talk a little bit about IU, Miami,
which is going to be the second to last game coming up on
Sunday. That's a fascinating matchup.
It's got a lot going on. First of all, Scott, great to
see you. How you doing?
How was their you guys do like a mead?
You know, testing convention yesterday.
Day before the game. Was there like a?
Did you have like a full like open like meat on spit kind of
thing going in the neighborhood? What was the goes?
The spread for the game. I think.
Saving all that for the sweet 16.
Ah, you're good. We yeah, we had a couple friends
over. It was great, like, some of my
best friends. My neighbors one went to
Michigan State, who I talked about all the time.
But his wife went to Purdue and she showed her face.
She came hung out watched. Yeah, you gave.
It was fantastic, had a couple other friends over.
No, it was a pretty, pretty lame.
Pretty. We did have some cheese, have
some Ritz have a really good like spicy apricot spread that
they sell Kroger. And we'll say like, go for like
the dry aged or the Aged white cheddar.
It's really good. They have something like, it's
fantastic to cut that up and I'm a big white cheddar guy, myself.
Yes. Yeah.
But now we're watching it, you know, is it was fantastic.
It's like, we went to my son's, my six-year-old basketball game
watching part of the Purdue game and then being watching that on
the way home coming home, seeing that it was Just a great night.
Overall ready to talk about it? Yeah, it was, it was delightful.
Thanks to the fine folks at switchyard, for hosting us, for
out of the miniature watch party for I, you last night, I'm sure
a lot of the local businesses free because it's like wait the
game starting when and and we have to stay open how long?
But now the it was a fun time down at switchyard and we really
enjoyed it. And thank you to smoke Works,
where I got to watch the end of the, the Purdue After you game.
So we'll talk about that in a little bit as well.
But now, Indiana of course, is what we normally talk about
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you see. All right, Scott, I you the big
news of the evening. They knock off Kent State in a
game that again, I was shocked that they played because the
pundits at all, decided that Kent State was going to win.
And I gotta tell you, I feel I'm actually concerned I've thought
about Out, perhaps calling the hotels in the Albany area.
Seeing if we need to send a care package or an emotional support
like golden retriever to Spiro, d-des and Deb Antonelli who were
on the broadcast because they have to be so crushed today that
can State never actually made it a basketball game.
I think they mentioned it. Like every minute there was why
I think Indiana at one point was up like 12 or 14 and Kent State,
hit a 3 and D. This is like you feel a shift in
momentum coming and it's like No, you don't, the still shifted
from, they hit a shot. That's that's part of the game
of basketball. What are you talking about?
But now, this was a game Scott that a lot of people outside of
the Indiana circles and even some people in Indiana circles
thought, was going to be a real Challenge.
And I think what struck me the most about this game was a
Indiana really never left it to chance like they, you know that
Kent State at one point, got it. To within what 2623 in the first
half and then again 2927 and then but like right at the end
of the half and then also from about the 14-minute mark of the
first half, until about the 10 minute, Mark of the first half.
We're two spots where Indiana just kind of put their foot on
the gas primarily on defense and used that to Spur transition
offense. They were aggressive, you know,
they weren't afraid in most cases to take shots.
And they managed to look incredibly comfortable in that
style and Kent State. Just struggled to hit anything.
They ended up with one starter who was a plus in terms of
offensive efficiency can State shot 31 percent from Two and
thirty three percent from three in the game and Indiana, you
know, did what they normally do this shot 50% from from to, they
hit some threes and I think most impressively for an IU team that
supposedly was gonna get all bothered in terms of guard play.
They ended up with only seven turnovers in the game.
Only 11% of possessions which is one of the best marks they had
all year, just a masterful performance and a masterful
coaching job by Mike Woodson to get his guys ready.
What were your overall thoughts on the game?
Yeah, I mean it's definitely recency bias and I don't want to
go through the schedule on this but it's like this.
This felt like this was the best performance.
This team has put together all year and I know, I know the
opponent isn't quite there but, you know, they and they've had
some good women, you know, you know after look back like that,
you know, Road win at Purdue, like maybe that's a quad to win.
Now I'm not sure if I can watch while they're killing our net,
but hey, that wasn't, that wasn't, that was fairly
Dickinson's. First quad one win yesterday,
man, come on. Hey, Go ahead.
Go ahead, please, up the seed line.
But no, I mean, I know it's like not a Road, Big Ten game, but we
looked all put together, we were focused the entire time.
And yeah, there was moments that can State hit shots and that
that happens. But everyone looked locked in.
You, you also as us with my friends, you had this sense.
It was very much like the shark from Jaws.
Like Trace had a really good first half but you can just kind
of tell like he's he's letting everyone else get involved and
My buddy was like, dude he's gonna have a like he's just
gonna kill it. The second half, he's gonna take
this game over but and he did and he had like just a traces
you started seeing this happen, more the end of this year where
he has these games were kind of list the first half like a point
guard lets everyone else get involved and then it's like
right now I'm just going to completely take control.
They had, you know, he was doubled.
We were running, we're pushing the ball, as you meant like,
Miller cops shooting with confidence.
It was a great just an absolutely awesome performance.
The only thing that you Maybe be a little bit concerned about
was, you know, Kent State missed some pretty open shots that were
open. I mean, like something they
missed a good number of shots that were open.
I'm not here to. I'm not going to shit on this
way. I'm just like that's the only
thing to be slightly concerned about but you know, this is well
this is kind of like what we've been talking about.
Like can this team put it together?
Keep it together and can State. As we talk about the preview,
like they've always their calling card is making runs at
the end. And as you said, we really left
them no options and never gave. Them, the opportunity to be in a
spot where they could get it tight and make something wild
happen. Like, we literally put the foot
on the throat and just kept it there, the entire game.
Yeah. I mean, you know, and I heard
that mentioned as well about, you know, Kent State missed a
lot of layups, but they were missing layups.
Because Trace Jackson Davis is Rim, protection, was really
giving them fits and this was your right eye was talk about
some threes, but go. Well, well this was the and then
know, you're no 100%. But but this is also when we
talked about Kent State, before we mentioned a couple of things,
one was Don't shoot threes. Well, they came into the game,
shooting 33% from three guess what they shot in this game. 33
percent from three so they lived up to type and they it's just it
that I think Indiana. This is where from my
perspective the coaching and the effort levels were so important
and so critical to the outcome of the game because I you
clearly had done a good scout and they realized that this was
not a team that was going to hurt them that much from outside
and can't stay. Eight to their credit new their
limitations, and kept trying to drive the basketball.
But again, you know, you're not in Ohio anymore, you know,
playing against Mac level competition, you've got Trace
Jackson, Davis who ends up in this game with five blocks and
probably could have had a couple more, like he was just inches
away from a couple more just completely altered.
Some of these smaller guards approaches to the basket, real,
how good he is at that. And like, and to the point, I'm
as most I, he fans like the guy starts driving the basket.
I got Tracy, got him and even when he's out of position he
gets in position and it's he does it with that without
fouling. He's not even close to fouling.
He's blocking high low, its it is such an asset to have and he
is all over the place and you're right.
That's why they're missing those layups because even when he's
you know, he can obviously block from the weak side which is the
easier way to block, but he's also great at blocking when he
he's the defender. It is, it is Stam a Zing, what
that provides and then I'll just leave that into you mentioned
the effort like the and this is always just kind of what
frustrates, you know, us is. Like, just, I want to see that
effort all the time, but you saw it just all over the place.
Like well, Thompson was was growing crate.
Like he was everywhere and like sitting with my my friends, you
know, my friend wife from Purdue and she's just like, I want that
like why couldn't we just like every five minutes you see?
Why can't we do that? Where's that?
Look at the effort, like, Miller cops diving for a ball.
It's like, but you see it? And then one of the players race
Thompson had like, I think three offensive rebounds.
Yes. Didn't get the score like he,
you know. But he, I think Jackson Davis
ended up getting a score that play.
He has like three offensive rebounding.
One reason, Tippett it twice in the court.
He, he is showing it, and it's so cool.
Like his comments afterwards. Being like, I just I'm giving it
my all and I'm not ending in here like and you can see it was
it was that was also, what was so invigorating?
Is this team looks like they've clicked and maybe figure it out.
What they need to do to continue to move through the tournament?
Yeah, I mean it's what was fascinating about the way this
game played out from my perspective, we talked about the
need to get contributions from the role players.
Both the other role players in the starting lineup and the
players Off the Bench. And, you know, again, we didn't
get a great game out of jail Hood your fee.
No, I mean eight points. Three, assists, two turnovers
for boards. It wasn't a bad game by any
means. But the foul trouble early meant
that tree Galloway had to play a lot of minutes at point guard.
Now I don't know that Tre would have been able to play as well
against a team with more like physically imposing you know
guards but in this game it was perfect and even though he
didn't contribute much in terms of score line four assists only
one turnover and really steady the ship down the stretch in
that first half race Thompson, as you mentioned.
Stepped up immediately. And at one point had outscored
the entire Kent State team early on and then just kind of went
quiet for a while. You're like, oh, we've seen this
before, but then came back with a vengeance in the second, half
ends up with 20 points. And nine rebounds, I mean, for a
guy that we've seen really have some big ups and downs over the
course of the last month and a half coming off the injury.
That was impressive, Malik renew came in gave some good minutes
even tomorrow, Bates, who frankly didn't, he didn't score
his shots. Over 6.
But he didn't know the shots were bad like three of the shots
were down and came back up again and it's like well what do you
do about that? But I thought Bates gave some
pretty good minutes. Had a couple of small mistakes
but overall you like what you saw there and then you mentioned
cop like cop missed an early three and that normally shuts
him down a little bit and instead he kept at it knocks
down three threes on the game and really when he provided some
who's taking a couple. Yeah.
Who the shots were like well-contested, which It's like
he normally that's normally the spotlight.
Cop was in the corners of guy that he normally pump fakes and
drives in like he just pump fake to the shot.
Yeah, that's that's fantastic. It's the headbands.
It's a headband on 100%. Yeah.
So, you know, this, this game for Indiana was a particularly
good. One on a number of levels, we
mentioned the turnover rate, they end up holding Kent State
to 37 percent effective field goal percentage that is the
second best defensive performance in terms of opponent
field. Percentage that they've had all
season, the only one that was better was only four tenths of a
point. Better is the game at home
against Wisconsin, where Wisconsin just completely forgot
how to shoot the basketball. And it was a game where Indiana
I mean, they weren't overwhelmingly great
offensively, but they did enough on each possession and it's
interesting as fast as Indiana look like they were playing, you
know, they would grab rebounds, or they make a defensive stop
and they run down the floor and you're like, okay, fast break
but they really stopped. The fast-breaking after about
the 10 minute Mark of the first half and then instead they would
stop, they get into their half-court offense and they'd
work essentially almost the whole shot clock down and then
get a good shot and that ended up making this one of the slower
games that Indiana has played on the season.
The only 64 possessions in this game and it was played in a way
that made it almost like, you know, as much as Kent State
wanted to hurry up Indiana and as much as they'd like to Try to
hurry up opponents. They they really did a great
job. Indiana did of adapting to the
moment and putting themselves in a position where they were
dictating everything and that ultimately, you could see the
frustration in the Kent State players faces as the game wore
on and they just never got that run.
You know, Mike, Woodson had a great time out at one point when
Indiana was still up by eight. He's like no we're just going to
we need to reset and and it seemed like every time that
Indiana needed to get a handle and put a leash on the game.
They were able to do. Uso.
And again, I'm not surprised because I realize just really
didn't think that Kent State was quite as good as the pundits
were giving them credit, but, you know, we, as much as we
heard about how you know, Kent State went and and did amazing
things at Gonzaga or at Houston or whatever.
At the end of the day, they didn't look nearly as good in
this game as they looked in those other games.
And it was largely because Indiana just didn't seem to be
that molested by what? State was trying to do
defensively. And again, this this kind of
goes away once we get to Miami, but you definitely had that you
could see it in the way. Kent State was reacting.
That, you know, I talked about this before, like the idea that
they just had never seen somebody like, Trace Jackson
Davis, like, you can see, like, when he was posting up, it's
like I need this other guy that guy's fast, not then.
I thought they saw Drew Timmy. They saw Drew Jimmy earlier in
the year, but it was a different here.
Clearly, because Tim, he's just not the same type of rim,
protector, that Trace Jackson Davis has grown into.
So anyway, That's kind of the overview of that game.
We're going to come back and talk about the Kent or the the
Miami game a little bit later. Well actually we're we're going
to jump to another segment I guess final thought on this Kent
State game real quick. Scott is if you think about the
way that Indiana wins this, it's it really felt like it was the
best case scenario, given an unfortunate set of circumstances
in that Indiana's game started so late.
That it was you know, essentially it was almost too
late to it was it was comical like a scale.
This game is gonna get over at 12:45 or whatever it was, which
is what it did and yet they didn't have to play anybody over
36 minutes, Miller cop, I think, for the first time, all season
led the team in minutes put your fee.
No only played 32. Trace Jackson Davis, got five
minutes off. That rest is going to be
critical as they take on Miami, which we're going to talk about
a little later on in the podcast.
But first we wanted to take a little intermission.
And we're going to bring our friend Zack singer from the
bracket racket in Zach. First of all, good morning and
congratulations on UConn's victory over Rick Pitino.
We were all told that Pitino was going to win that game by 30.
So much like our game. I'm actually surprised.
They even had it in the first place, you know.
Yeah. No.
And the shocking development, much like Kent State turns out
the coaches. Don't actually get to play in
the basketball game. The basketball players do and
Rick hasn't got the guys, he'll have the guys at st.
John's or Providence or Georgetown for all?
Three, who knows? But yeah, no, we're very similar
fan base, is not just dumb friends with you, and with
what's in Scotts. Great.
But like true fan, bases of powerful basketball programs.
That needed a win yesterday. More than oxygen.
Yes. And unbeknownst to you.
You were also given a gift from God.
Indiana, kids being born marriage, Purdue eating shit
like that. I I was thrilled with Yukons
performance in the second half, especially Adama was great, and
of course, our programs are in the same damn godforsaken
Northeast stereotypical useless building, but but yeah, no, I'm
thrilled. We get to play st.
Mary's, we played them once randomly in a by game and it was
seven so that we get to play them again.
Yeah, but yeah, I'm excited for it but we sent excited as the
reason I'm here. We got it, boy, howdy.
We we talked week I I called Zach after the, I you win
largely so we could talk about the Purdue loss because this is
Zach what I told you. And what I was telling, Scott
before we got started this is I actually think that we haven't
seen an explanation about how historically bad this loss is
like everybody was like oh second time of 16 seeds ever
beaten. The one that's true but not all
16 seeds are created equal. And I think that I mean, when
you go back and you look at Virginia losing to to UMBC back
in, what was it 2018? You know, that was a Virginia
team that was 31 and to, they play a UMBC team.
That's from the America East conference, which is a decent
conference. It's certainly better but it's
not well, no, no. By orders of magnitude though
it's better than the Northeast conference and it's important to
know. Note, when you talk about UMBC,
you are talking about the American East champions.
This is not the Northeast conference champion of the
regular season or the postseason.
This is a legally designated representative.
This is putting someone with power of attorney, as Chief
Justice of the United States, Supreme Court that's basically
what happened. So this is I'm on here.
Specifically folks were, why do you bring quite crazy that Khan
as a sicko? I want a lot of NEC basketball,
folks. I'm not proud of it.
We all make choices in life. I want a lot of America East.
I watch a lot of any see this team doing this to Purdue is
easily the funniest thing that's ever happened in the history of
Western Civilization. Well, let's rattle off and of
society, let's let we need to Rattle off some facts and
figures because there's really there's two gifts that have been
given in this one is the state. Des of Fairleigh Dickinson.
So let me just rattle this list of facts off.
So this is a fairly Dickinson team that was ranked above 300
in can pom for the entire year. Was as you mentioned, neither
the regular season nor the tournament champion of the NEC
which was the worst Ken pom conference in the country.
This year was a team that went for and 22 last season hired a
division to coach to come in and Coach this Year, they were 350
ninth in defense and Ken pom. Coming into this game.
There tallest player is 10 full inches shorter than Zack ET.
The the alleged National player of the year, the the team's
average height is 6 foot 1 which is what 15 inches shorter than
the alleged National Player of the Year.
Zack, ET. And the only reason they're in
at all was because the two teams that finished Ahead of them in
the conference were ineligible for the tournament because they
were transitioning from division to, to division one, and there's
a five year, probationary period.
So you're talking about a team that is a solid hundred and
fifty spots lower in Ken pom, then UMBC was when they beat
Virginia and Virginia. People forget had had a major
injury issue, so they weren't at 100% going into that game to
begin with. We're as Purdue as far as.
No, only had the injury of the entire weight of produced
history hanging over them. So, I mean, Zach, you watch a
lot of basketball, you know, the statistics inside and that, go
ahead Scott. Yes, it's nice want to chime in.
I have a couple more stats that I've about this as well.
That just are insane. You can go to and zeros.
That's two is the number of Conference titles.
That Purdue is one this year and zeros and member of the
Fairleigh Dickinson is 19 minutes and 20 Five seconds,
that's how long said, Zach ET, the tallest guy on the court,
went without scoring at the end of the game.
Nine minute or taking a field goal, 23 and a half is the
largest Point favorite ever to lose in the NCAA tournament to
and 32, the Big Ten was a second rank conference in the country
this year, according to the net and the Northeast was 30-second
dead. Last going to your Roger Sherman
had this tweet but Galen going to your height thing can Palm
has liked Teams ranked based on average.
Height Purdue is the number one team in the country Fairleigh
Dickinson is 363rd. They are literally last like it
is. My wife was an English teacher,
she hates us was like, this is literally a David versus Goliath
story. Like this is tallest versus
smallest, two more. In the last three NCAA
tournaments, Matt Painter has lost to a 13, a 15 and a 16.
So yeah, some pretty Wild stats when you put all that into into
account and we'll get to the individual play in a second.
But Zack, like your what else capture, what do you take from
all of this. So, I'm into like coaching and
stuff. Tobin Anderson's been a great
coach wherever he was, he played college basketball at Wesleyan
Bill Belichick's alma mater in Middletown.
He coached it's eight, Thomas Aquinas, which is a it's called
a college. It's basically the crap under
one side of the, the Tappan Zee Bridge.
And in that part of life, New York adjacent and he coached
that forever, he brought four of his guys at Fairleigh Dickinson
354th in division. One experience Fairleigh
Dickinson strength of non kind of check the schedule 334 on
November 30th. They played a half mile away
from me at Hartford on a court which has the logo for the for
the east coast in the division. Three Vincent Hartford is
joining, they came and played here and lost I almost went.
I didn't go and it's no hyperbole to say it is the
greatest regret of my life. They came to Hartford lost to a
program that is loud quitting on division, one lost to them.
They were, they were three and six on that night.
They lost this year to Queens who's barely in D1.
They played Mercy, they Except Mary New Jersey which is
gambling front. The Lost of them.
Well, okay, so happened. So this is impossible.
I brought this up to you last night and and I actually think I
stumped you and this sounds like hyperbole.
But the reason we wanted to lay all these stats out, like this
isn't just a huge upset, it's almost inconceivable.
Like if you laid this down on paper in front of anybody that's
been involved in sports and you said this is going to Happen.
They would say, get out of my office.
There's no way in hell Zach is this the worst loss in the
history of sports. I mean,
Do Cameroon 1990. They had Roger Milla right
against Argentina. This my man is rolling out.
D 2 players against the national Player of the Year air quotes in
their league Merrimack. Ineligible, yeah, win the
conference title game in their league.
Stonehill, been there. Five minutes gets the others
that arouse key, is better than them.
Also as an eligible they they claim the title game at Miramax,
hockey arena which is Is functionally a refrigerator and
they lose by one. It doesn't matter because they
won the semi-final against st. Francis Pennsylvania.
And they knew that the winner of that game would get the bid
because the Merrimack, they had like, 12 people in the Loretto
Center, which is there Court, whose Wikipedia page is 95%
about hosting toy conventions and presidential candidates for
Jon Corzine. There is there isn't a picture
of it on the Wikipedia page. We need to put one up.
The building is made entirely of wood.
It's modeled after our up in Maine.
So the Northeast conference, I love it, but like there the end
of every conference move. Yeah, like they're the ones at
the bottom. Pulling up from D2 like
Stonehill doesn't really have us.
Any Fairleigh Dickinson's S ID for men's basketball is a
current undergraduate student that's that kids having the time
of their life today, my God beat produce Semi comfortably.
Like this is why the tournament straight but also like Matt
Painter really should be fired. Like really, really what can we
write? And I want to get into the
actual statistics of this. I want to go ahead.
I want to answer the question you on that, like, I love, I
love the idea of the worst loss in sports.
Like, that's a great. It's a great thing to put on the
mantle but no, I'm I'm doing a little, like, I wrote down my
list, as you guys were talking, like, and the thing is, like,
you could go to, like, and I could debunk all these.
If you go to like, you know, Tyson Buster, Douglas, It's like
Tyson was still a champion. Like he had won some titles up
to that. Bully Buster, Douglas head for
title shots before that. Yeah.
For yeah, I didn't want and Tyson had a belt.
He had that NES game like he had a, he had a good run on his own.
You look at like the Buffalo Bills, they still made four
Super Bowls. Like that's the trouble is like,
you know, Buckner the 86 World Series, like that's still a team
that made the World Series. Like the only one that does also
come to mind. Like college ball is like, you
know, Chaminade Virginia. But like, that's that's right,
beginning of the season. Right?
Well, that's the thing. If he's in, and Samson still
went to the NBA finals. Like this is like the problem is
when I searched like the worst losses in sports history, all
the teams are like in, you know? Well, they lost the Super Bowl,
they lost the World Series if you still accomplish something.
I mean, look, it's not a lot of first-round losses, like this,
we had earlier this season. What we thought might have been
the worst regular season loss in college basketball history, when
Iowa lost at home to Eastern Illinois.
Illinois was 344th in Ken pom. They were they were worse than
Fairleigh Dickinson was, but that was again, it was a regular
season game that game happened for three days before Christmas.
This was a tournament held. This was a tournament game,
okay, I know that's, why was all this Fairleigh Dickinson stuff,
like, we might even be having this pod if that game happened
in Mackay, on December 24th. Yeah, well, you like we do, but
what's was like, that's if this happened in December but holy
what is going on. This And in the tournament but
that's what it's worth. Let's let's get something like
Virginia had the why there's no tape of anything, right?
Like it's an amazing upset but it's in Hawaii / lost at a
neutral site in Big, Ten, territory and territory.
That's right, two balls, and all of America.
The NEC representative of the last 25 years, like by writing
them all I've seen Peter kiss. I have seen a lot of these teams
that have come through and rolled through and Earl Potts.
It fairly thick stick to the path Rashad whack at Mount.
Saint Mary's, Jeremy Chappelle at Robert Morris like the best
program. They had thousand Horizon
League. They had a team go three-peat
and now isn't even the same school anymore hard and Long
Island. Like there's not one Long
Island. We had to We kind of got
together and said, look, we can't have to st.
Francis into Long Island, but we gotta figure this out.
He said, if one Long Island now that's like, given up and is
hiring Rod Strickland. I want just legalized, they
don't have a deal with ESPN. Plus, they have any sea front
row? They are their own streaming
platform. Okay, they are at the end of the
abyss and their, their representative went to the first
floor and it was the most obvious first Organics ever
happened, Gail Talk about this for weeks ago, we're like any,
any see team because we knew it couldn't be stolen or Merrimack,
right? It's like Texas.
Southern at 6:40 on Tuesday are actually given Wednesday game
which is hilarious on Wednesday March 15th.
We know it and they went in there and they won comfortably
but it was like that's nice. 33 12 beats 303.
Yeah. Pain Palm what an upset.
But, but surely surely even that painter can't possibly find a
way with Well, good basketball player on his team to run zero
plays for the one good basketball player in the last
three minutes and instead run them to for really not good.
All right. Well I just want to chime in
too. It's also funny when you look at
the Indy star like there's just a picture that they have and
they I love this. Just must be an IU gratitude
this and well done. Like one of the pictures on top
of the headlines is like just ET posting up.
And it literally looks like one of those like Manute, you know,
Muggsy Bogues with other Be a player type pictures.
Like he's posting up this dude, from Fairleigh Dickinson.
Whose head is, like, comfortably under his armpit and you're just
like, how did this guy? Not touch it for 9 minutes.
Like, how did that team lose that game face on this one
picture? We do need to talk about this
and we've kind of talked about it.
A bit with the Ed thing Edie have a I guess a quote unquote,
good game, 21 points, 15 rebounds but again he was 10
inches taller than everybody else on the floor.
And produce shot. 26 threes in this game in a game where they
had an 8 inch height advantage in almost every position is 26
degrees out and they did five of them.
You don't have to keep doing it. My friend.
I test Factor here like that's why I bought.
Yeah, I thought watching Arizona with two Bella's failed to score
a point in the final five minutes, I thought there's no
shirt. That's the thing like they watch
that happen. Yeah.
And they said they must have thought.
Well, we can't let this happen with Zach ET, right?
We can't go five minutes and not score a point, something to
nine, nine and a half minutes, without a field goal attempt.
That's like 25 percent of the game.
He's not hard to find right? The moment I knew they were in
trouble with his face. Yeah.
Was it like the DN March Madness and wasn't hitting it?
This wasn't um be no. I'm on the run against Virginia,
hitting the shops and you really hate the 10 minutes to go.
You realize what? 10 minutes to go in the Virginia
game? It was over because Virginia
kit, Virginia hasn't amounted to 1500 runs.
Since James Madison was a person and not a school, okay?
So like they were done. Then this was a situation let's
just give it to Becky I know. Well and what's Wild is just too
Flesh out the statistical picture.
What you're saying? This was a game where Fairleigh
Dickinson scored under a point per possession, they shot 43.
Puss, they shot 43% from to they shot 30 percent from three.
I mean, they hit 24. Total shots in this game.
It's really Dickinson last hosted.
A Northeast Conference Championship game in 2006.
Yeah, they lost to Monmouth 4948.
They are like Don't even like, this is the program that's as
you said for 2014. They haven't like won the
regular season and get unlucky at the conference tournament
Fairleigh. Dickinson has been be, I would
be loved to be fairly average last 50 years.
They just existed, you have it at Players, they've been good.
They've been at fancy, save that money and nobody that Lee has
any money and they were the third best team in the league.
And they were, they were forced in.
We played really well in the first for this is the way, I
can't believe this is the NEC team that won a game.
This reinforces why I shouldn't watch this league.
I watch it. Robert Morris.
So it would fairly think it's it.
As in the American Athletic Conference in two years, it's
going to be great. No, it's great.
It's great. Well, not good at basketball.
Purdue need for like, I don't know where they even go.
Where do you go from here? What's the point?
It's it's going to I'm fascinated to see.
Nothing will change. We talked about this and it is
amazing. Like as much as painter.
Everybody talks about how great of a coach painter is and and
clearly he does some regular season things, right?
But this is essentially what you came to expect out of the gene
Keady era at Purdue where they would have their best teams and
they would lose and keep. Key moments.
And that's what they've got again and you're looking at
potentially a 50-year span of this with Purdue, he needs to be
the head and he needs to be in order to have snacks head coach,
both parties. It says, actually they should
have one last night and they're just going to keep doing this
instead of, I don't know, maybe having a little introspection on
against a 21 and 15 like a 21 and 15-yard.
As you can see 15 losses on a non major Conference record.
This time of year on the team still playing like this, is it
like the eighth place Big 12 team.
This is a bad nect, man. Was at what I kind of the
funniest part. Florida, Atlantic.
Close their doors. Yes,
that has happened. Hundreds cotton 353 and defense
defense. They win championships but you
do not need it to be produced. I'd like to note that will end
on this produce adjusted offensive efficiency in last
night's game. The regular offensive visually
was bad enough but they're adjusted was 80 3.1?
Like that's how bad the performance was.
That's that is that's almost indescribably bad for a regular
like run-of-the-mill bad team but for a one seed to turn in
that kind of an offense. Performance against this bad of
a defensive team, based on all the evidence of the season is
mind-blowing. It really is Galen.
We do been Latin you drove in last night to be okay.
Makes sense to produce towards the game score.
I hadn't checked on Fairleigh Dickinson.
It wasn't 96, I was kind of hoping it was like 75.
Yeah, this is there, they had an idea.
The torvik score. It's a 0 to 100 score.
For those who haven't been on torvik, which is basically, like
how well did you play, and what did you do?
Well, and you can have a good game score, but lose, you have a
bad game. Swear win.
This was produced worst score by like a couple of orders of
magnitude from what their previous worst was her do.
I'm sorry Fairleigh Dickinson, the juror has now played 36
games basically a quarter of their season.
They have a game score less than 10.
Yes, they had a three against Saint Peter's to against
Hartford, and I didn't know you could do this.
They had a zero against Richmond and they are in the round of 32.
It's the greatest dumbest sporting event on Earth, it's
amazing. I love it from the produced by
the thing that I was thinking about was like I have a neighbor
who's a Purdue grad, it's awful but like You know, they're
sending stuttering kind of wondering where their, you know,
it's like he was sending me these memes of like, you know,
the projected standings and like, the current you'll protect
his chance to be in the top and like currencies, like your
produce the top and kind of this, like, you know, little
brother's big brother and like, how many times they've won?
It's like, all right. Like you're getting big
yourself. And then for this to happen,
there is a feel of like, you know, hey man, you tried to
years, the big boy table at Thanksgiving.
Like, how about you? This is why you're the little
brother, you can make all the fun you want, the bit, the
Banners are dusty, and like some teams lose first, round games,
it happens. But like, this is epically bad.
This is a 1, well liked and you no longer your 50 more years.
You're off the big boy table. This is, this is what I'll end
with and we'll get Zack out of here on this.
As I said at the beginning, this is a gift that Purdue has given
IU fans that will last 50 years. It will last two or three
generations. It's because if we will always
look back and a we will be able to say Purdue lost is a one seed
to a 16. We will also be able to say
Purdue not only lost as a 1 2 is 16, they lost to the worst one
of the worst 16 seeds in history ever ever.
Ever not just not just like everywhere I go back and look at
losing record, 16 teams that were better than this team.
Yes, 100%. So the this is why we wanted to
die. I've into this if you think that
it's being mean, we're just trying to give you the full
breadth of exactly how bad this was.
Because I really don't. I mean right at the end it was
like well let's not make it about Purdue.
Let's make it about Fairleigh Dickinson and it's like no we
need to make it at least a little bit about Purdue because
this is one of those historic losses that you just can't.
As a program, get rid of you can't just say, oh we had a bad
day here. There's like no you cannot have
a bad day and lose this game. Against this bad of a team
they've got to pick up the entire campus and move it 10
miles Virginia won a title and people are still like but it's
the year after they lost as a one.
I mean like they can't shake that even with a title.
Yeah and you wouldn't be see was really good.
America is team. Yeah.
But I like when it happened I was like that's what I'm looking
at. For me it's my I'm debating
whether or not to use that Thursday night and my wife's out
of town. Well yes
I mean you would have seen the seeds of History Dylan.
I don't think they do not serve Refreshments at Hartford soda.
You cannot I'm not even kidding, you can't buy Eminem's, I've
never seen it. The entire pork was covered with
a sticker over the Americas logo because they're going division,
three and they comfortably beat the team that just not produ out
because they thought they can shoot threes.
There's that. Give it to the big guy.
There's there's no better way to end this segment.
Zach, thank you for joining us. Just tremendous tremendous
theater. Thanks man, have a good one.
Fairleigh Dickinson price. Well, there you go Scott that
hold on. I can't let it go quite yet.
I just want to ask you from without Zach because just we're
very focused on Purdue, he will not.
This is this this would be a question, I'd ask me, we got off
the pot, which is do it on. He, they're not going to fire
painter but like, how do you recover from this?
Because again, well, I go to the Virginia thing, like it's to me,
it's always a two-year Saga. Like, that's the story of like
man. They came back and won a title.
But like I said, they want an effing title and yet, I still
think like Those it's connected with the one seed loss, like,
it's like winning a title. Doesn't get rid of this stain.
Like that is literally how bad this is.
Look at the end of it all. I think the problem is, first of
all painter is, he's a great dude.
From what everybody said, and he clearly is able to construct
something that works during the regular season taking advantage
of the way, the Big Ten referees its games.
And unfortunately, I think You know what gives her do a leg up
in the Big Ten just disappears in the tournament and there was
a good article, I think it was Dan Walken was writing about
this and it's like, okay, you've tried this formula multiple
times. Now, you know, whether it was
with Edie now, two years in a row, you know, going back, you
can look at some of the teams that they've had before.
Like, you know, everybody talks about Purdue being like, big
man, you or whatever, you know. You you just it's not working in
the tournament because it's too easy.
It's kind of like when the Pacers went all in on the idea
that hey, we can win a title with Roy Hibbert as a focal
point of our offense and it's like sorry guys that era ended
15 years ago and you can get to a certain point if your Purdue
and that painter, you can win a Big Ten title, especially if
you've got the 13th easiest schedule in the conference that
certainly helps. But but you're almost certain
now to go to the tournament and find yourself in a position
where you're going to struggle. I mean, you know, the best team
this was brought up by a friend of mine who covers Purdue, they
know the best of their team's was the one that had Matt harms
and he was not like the primary focal point of the offense.
It wasn't it wasn't the same kind of system, you know, if
your painter and Purdue first of all.
You know, Purdue this is essentially, it kind of resets
the whole perspective on Purdue's program again because
this again and I the reason why we're harping on this a little
bit is it? This is a it's like a it's a
reputation Ali changing loss in the worst possible way because
it's just always going to be there, it can, it will affect.
I'm actually I'm hoping that we can get home field to
surreptitiously. Just make a bunch of shirts with
the number 16 on them that we can wear.
And that font that is right in the Purdue fought just.
Just just, just have those out there.
No other contexts nothing, you know, if your painter now you
have essentially to say, alright what do I, how do I fix the
approach here? Because he's going to keep
pulling in these big man recruits because that's the mo,
but this is no longer, the type of game college basketball,
where you can win like that. And I think ultimately nothing
changes up there in terms of like, they're not going to fire
paint. A painter's not going to go
anywhere else but until he kind of rounds the bend and decides,
you know what, we're going to try to roll with a more modern
approach to things where this isn't our focal point.
We're going to be the same kind of team where it's like what
we're winning in the regular season.
We're not winning in the tournament.
You cannot go through a whole season Mega slow and focusing
entirely on offensive rebounding because if you get in a game
like this and it doesn't work, you have no other recourse.
And unless you've I've got to like athletic guards that can
draw Defenders away, which they didn't have this year.
You're going to be in significant trouble and the same
thing happened last year. It's not like this is a new
thing. Well, they the problem is your
they had that they had Jade IV last child and they couldn't use
it correctly. It's like they have the same
thing and they have the same problem at least, at least they
beat Yale last year in the first round, you know.
Yeah, but it's but it's but it's like it's just so wonderful that
like, it all plays into the narrative like the narrative is,
you know. Yeah, they've had better
regular-season. Success, our banners are dusty
fine, but like the narrative always is but like in the end
Purdue can't get it done when it matters and we can and that that
Drives them nuts and it's never more evident than this and yeah
it's not just going to live on like it is you know next year or
two years from now they're doing great and like they're number
one in the country it's like yeah who cares if you're gonna
screw it up like we're still pissed about losing that year to
Syracuse. That was the 360 right?
Like I mean and that sucked and we're not happy about it that
was still a sweet 16 now this will stay forever and eat you
know painter will have to win a title and maybe even two to
clear his name. This is because the thing is, I
mean, let's talk because let's just you already had just make a
final four. I mean, that's I mean, like walk
before you run on that but but you're right.
I mean that's that's the thing and what - we promise he already
had the history of this. Like it was already like the
ater was there like the fuel. He said he had great teams,
can't make the final four and then you lay this on top of it
is it's man like I mean you do Wonder like is this going to
hurt recruiting? Like, I just how how do Do you
know what I love everything about and I will wrap with this.
It was just so nice to then. See in contrast our team that
night playing with passion, playing with effort, it is
having a very professional Workman like experience and just
kind of showing the Stark difference in this year.
Like yeah, we got it done and we got it done like professionals.
You guys were screwing around with it, trying to be a kid at
the adults table. I mean, and we'll let it Alone
for now, we didn't talk this much about Purdue losing the
Saint Peter's last time because I mean and I thought that was
pretty epic and that was pretty funny but you know, Saint
Peter's had beaten Kentucky so on and so forth.
I mean, this is this is just a level of historic loss that you
have to stop. You have to take 25 30 minutes
and talk through. So it's gonna be fascinating to
watch the further fall out and reaction as we move forward.
Anyway, let's jump over to talking about teams that are
playing on this team. We're playing on Sunday, Miami
of Florida, they beat drainable the gala for the Galen.
The Galen Invitational, Miami was a popular upset pick and
almost became the upset. They played really badly.
Most of the game Drake was up, 55 247, with under five minutes
to play in this game. And Miami went on a 16 to one.
Run down the stretch Drake, went ice cold.
Old and Miami ends up winning the game. 63 256.
Fortunately, for IU fans, they wrapped it up relatively
quickly. It allowed our game to tip
before 11:00, which I appreciate.
So we can talk about that game. A little bit in that Miami had
by their standards and atrocious game offensively.
They scored point 91 points per possession, this is a Miami
team, whose entire stock in trade is playing some of the
best offensive basketball in the country.
They They have been excellent All Season.
They're a good to point shooting team, they're a good three-point
shooting team. They've got a really good set of
guards, you know, which you might have heard of that.
They've got Isaiah Wong, they've got Nigel pack, who almost
ironically almost transferred to Purdue, but instead transferred
to Miami Florida in the offseason came from Kansas State
and then they, you know, they're an interesting team.
Like they're not very big, they're actually kind of similar
to Kent State in that regard and that they don't have anybody
over 69. And Drake to their credit.
Really gummed up what Miami was trying to do, overall, Miami
ended up shooting 33% from three.
Twenty nine percent from two, which is hard to do.
Miami, largely survived on free, throw shooting but you know,
overall, just not really a good game.
And frankly, I'm actually kind of surprised after Drake was
leading by eight with so little time left that they figured out
a way back into it and came back.
You know Scott we talked About this matchup is a possibility.
It's a real interesting contrast in Styles, obviously, I think if
Indiana plays the way that Indiana played on Friday and
Miami plays the way that Miami played on Friday.
Indiana should be the favorite and would should win the game.
You can't really count on that in March because you can go from
really playing bad to really play in good over the course of
48 hours. But overall when I look at this
Miami team, I'm thinking to myself I you can win this game
even if Miami plays significantly better if they
play with the same level of defensive intensity that they
brought to the game against Kent State, what are your initial
thoughts on this matchup? Yeah, I mean what's concerning
is kind of the offense that Miami can offer their not a
great, three-point shooting team.
They're also not bad. And what's concerning is the
interplay you've talked about this year is that if Miami gets
hot on offense and our defense, it doesn't keep that intensity
it bleeds into our offense than a normally they kind of stagnate
together. And then that's a very bad
recipe. That that's what I worry about
with a team. Like Miami that has that ability
to score but I mean, you know, Not great.
Analysis are like we are now past the point every team is
good. Kent State has some holes.
Like we're now into the point where every team is going to be
good and pose problems and I think it comes down to more
anything else. Like I've been saying for a
couple weeks now like if this team plays with a kind of
intensity and focus of played with last night, they will be
able to compete with any team left in this tournament.
I truly believe that like, yeah, it's really up to them and if
they play it that way, yeah other teams are going to throw
some rent. Here and there and do things we
can't do. But we looked we looked very
good. Last night was a unbeatable.
We looked like we can compete with anybody in the country.
What I also like is that you play another team, that is not
huge. So I mean you have like their
tallest guy is, you know, Miller and omere or both 67.
That's that's the tall I guess. Anthony Walker is 69, he plays
very little you know, your Trace is going to have another an
ability to kind of control the lane like he did again.
If there are some interesting aspects to this matchup but I
think a fascinating one of the things that people criticize
Indiana about is there a really good 3-point shooting team and
they don't take nearly enough. Threes Indiana is 355th in the
country at three-point rate basically which is basically
where you take your three point attempts you divide them by your
overall field. Goal attempts 355th in the
country 26.2% is that rate. Miami is not that much more
oriented towards the three there 268th in the Which is still
pretty low. So, you know, these two teams
really do kind of mirror each other in some ways Miami's
better offensively by a bit. I mean, I use the 24th best
offense in the country in terms of efficiency, Miami's 12, the
difference is Indiana is a top 50 defensive team and Miami is
ranked 112th. This is not a Miami team that
you go in and you expect to do a huge amount in terms of
Defending, and Where I get excited about.
This is also that you know, the other, the big Achilles heel for
Indiana has been there. I don't have a deep bench, you
know. Indiana over the course of the
Season, you look at bench minutes that because they have
such a tight rotation of about seven players that they've been
at their 220th in the country in bench minutes about twenty, nine
point four percent of total minutes played by the bench.
Miami is 322nd in the country and bench minutes, twenty four
percent of their minutes come off the bench.
So this is an even more starter oriented team.
They just really aren't that deep, you know, look Indiana's
had problems with really good, offensive teams, but they've had
problems with really good, offensive teams, that shoot,
threes a bunch, and that's not really what Miami does.
And you know, you look across, they've got a lot of guys that
shoot pretty well. I mean, they've got long shoots
38% pack shoots 40% Poplar. Shoots 41%, Joseph, shoots 38%
39 percent but the reality is, they're just not shooting that
many as The overall flow of their offense dictates and so
what I saw yesterday defensively out of, I use guards.
In particular, obviously put your fee, no Trey Galloway and
Tamar Bates. I was pretty impressed with what
they were able to do. Much higher caliber of athlete
here and I think the coaching is going to be better.
Jim larranaga is a really, really good.
Coach gets the maximum out of this team, pretty much every
year, but I think as long as Indiana isn't overly fatigued
from this game, Mm. And if they can, essentially
duplicate the effort and intensity levels that they
brought for this entire game. I think Indiana has to feel
fairly good about this matchup and I think that, I mean, there
are slight favorite there. Either a 1 or 2 point favorite
on the the gambling books. Right now, that's probably about
where I would have them. I think they have to be
considered as a slight favorite overall.
Yeah, I mean the only concern is that you're asking for things.
This team just doesn't have a history of doing this year of
kind of putting together back-to-back, you know, really
good games and having another 40 minute stretch.
They seen locked in for the entire game is that they've been
inconsistent in that? And that's that's the concern
but I will go to again. Something you've talked about
like just the psyche of this team you know you always having
the bracket break well for you is nice and like yeah probably
rather be playing Drake tomorrow then Miami but you know, it's I
think there is something to, you know, had they looked across and
saw Drake on the uniform. Maybe they mentally let
themselves. Let their guard down a little
bit and Drake, it's into it. Like there really should be no
reason. You see Miami?
Like, it's a team of notice the power 5 team.
It's a Well cauchy McGee. Said, the athletes are going to
be there like you they'll know very early on they're in for a
fight and you do wonder if you know that, that helps keep that
that lock in mentality for the game.
Yeah. I think It comes out.
If they play the way they did last night, they're going to,
they're going to be Miami. That's just that is the case.
It's going to be fascinating to watch all this play out.
You know, we talked about it on the impromptu live show.
I did walking out of switch yard last night, but Indiana does get
the second to last game late game.
And I look, I'll tip as critical as I've been of CBS and of the
NCAA for not, considering those things, you know, I can remember
several times where I you was the late game in the night era.
Yeah, and then played the 12:10 game on the weekend, which is
like, what are we doing? They get almost, they don't get
a full 48 hours, but they're going to get essentially 43
hours and they only get 2 hours and 15 minutes to 15 to 30 less
than Miami's going to get to rest.
And they had a less fraught game than Miami did.
And I do think that those things add up, I also will say this,
Miami team is, again, I think they are a team to be concerned
about but Don't know that, they're necessarily A team that,
you know, you would fear you look at what they did last year
and they went to the elite eight, which was a surprise but
they kind of, I'm not, I don't want to diminish that run but
was for what was fascinating about that run?
Was who they got to play. They barely beat USC in the
first round. That seems to be, however, USC,
Tournament game goes USC, barely losing to, whoever they're
playing, they played Auburn. And Auburn was a really good
team. Last year in Auburn, Just
completely forgot how to score the basketball in the game
against. Miami my Miami team.
Again, that was not very good defensively, last year.
And then they played Iowa State, who was another surprise entrant
into the sweet 16. And they again, they ran into an
Iowa State team that just couldn't shoot the basketball
very similar to what we saw at Iowa State, and their game
yesterday, Iowa State in that game shot, 18 percent from
three. So look, Indiana needs to be
judicious with their shot selection.
I will, I would argue at this point that if you look at
Miami's overall schedule, they haven't had a whole lot of games
that weren't at home, where they had to where they were able to
successfully play against a player of the caliber of Trace
Jackson, Davis. And I also think that we're
going to see Jalen Hood Fino step up in a much bigger way
offensively in this next game because it's going to be very
much a guards game. You go down the list of the
games that Miami's played over the course of the season.
And You know, they had a nice win at North Carolina, but North
Carolina didn't didn't even make the tournament.
They had a win at Virginia Tech. Same thing didn't make the
tournament they lost in the second round of the ACC
tournament and you go through the rest of their schedule.
And it's like, well, they were kind of home court heroes in a
way they really didn't have a whole lot that you would look at
and say wow that was a tremendously impressive when
that demonstrates that Miami is a top-level team.
I mean, they beat Rutgers at home.
So did Indiana, they beat Providence on a neutral floor?
Or, you know, congratulations and at pretty much everything
else that they did of note was on, it was on those at home and
those are teams that generally struggle, a little bit when they
get to the tournament. So I think Indiana by the
metrics by everything else, you know, is a favored in this game,
they should be. It really does though.
As you said Scott, come down to what energy level and what
effort level does Indiana come in with if they play with the
vibe that they played with against Kent State.
I'm not that worried, but as you said, it's never a guarantee
with. Steam that that's what they're
going to come in with and that's going to be a really fascinating
thing to watch. Yep.
And I would say to you mentioned kind of a home court hero thing.
Like just just from watching on TV.
We're not no we're not in Albany but it sound like there was a
very good Indiana contingent there and then with a teams
left, you're looking, you know, Indiana Miami the other two
teams playing in the MVP Arena, cute name for an arena Yukon and
st. Mary's, like there's no, there's
no reason why you Khan fans have anything against us.
It like it's also nice to like this is, you know, just being
positive. What we see, you know, if you're
a Yukon fan or your You're a Saint Mary's fan, you kind of
just like all right you know you stick around and watch that
game. Like if we're playing Drake and
then Drake's within five points like suddenly everyone in this
place was not an IU fan. One strike to win.
Yeah. You don't really have that with
Indiana Miami like it's if it's a good game people be fired up
but you're not going to have that.
That's always the concern in these games is that once the
lower see, once a quote-unquote Cinderella, has a shot everyone
and everyone's going for like suddenly.
Now you're back in the bunker and becomes a road game, like
this will be a home game for him.
A pseudo home game for Indiana based on the crowd that I heard
last night, just based on the teams that are there, that
should have the most fan contingent It's really
fascinating. I'm just happy Indiana still in
it and I'm glad they're going to have.
It's gonna be a fun game. You know, it's interesting
because Indiana has not had a lot of straight up. 45 matchups
in their history. Yeah, you know, you and you go
back and when Indiana has been in that 45, you know, area, he
was the last, well, they're in the 32.
Well, well, right, so that was one of the rare ones where it's
like, ooh, Indiana Indiana. Kentucky.
A five verses of for that was that was fun, you know.
But the you figure in 2012, they they should have played.
Who was it? Creighton yesi.
No, not in 2000 in 2012. No.
Sorry, it was, it was Wichita, State.
Who was the five? It was, I knew was a Missouri
Valley team but VCU upsets them. That was shocked as like,
second-best team at VCU and they end up playing, you know, that
team, I think they were a 12. Seed, you go all the way back
like you said to 2002 and Indiana's.
The 5c And they don't get to play USC.
Unc-wilmington beats them. So I'm excited about like a nice
matchup here between two, good teams from two very proud
conferences. And I like Indiana's, chances
overall should be a really, really fun game.
I'm looking forward to it. So, anyway, Scott, any final
thoughts before we wrap up now, man?
Good day. Yesterday was a great day on all
accounts. Yeah, yeah, it's you don't get
those sorts of good days that often but that was, you know,
Providence had managed to knock Kentucky off.
That would have In like the Holy Trinity of outcomes, but I'll
take it it was it was absolutely amazing.
And like you said the Purdue lost was great.
That will last for 50 years. Indiana playing as well as they
did and coming away with a double-digit victory just was it
was? That was the cake.
The Purdue game was the icing but the Indiana win.
That was the cake anyway. We will be back, probably Monday
because I think the Sunday game is gonna be a little late for us
to do anything post game. So plan on hearing from Again on
Monday and we'll talk about what happened.
Hopefully, previewing Indiana with a trip to the Sweet 16.
We'll see what happens. My thanks to everybody for
joining us. My thanks to our partners at the
back home network. Be sure to tune in Indiana.
Women about to start playing. We're recording on on Saturday
morning and they're about to take on Tennessee Tech.
I think it is in the 116 game and they'll have a game on
Monday as well. So, we'll preview that a little
bit, but be sure to check out the doing the work podcast.
Through the back home, network, the Crimson cast women's
basketball show with Amanda Foster.
I might be popping on that next week to recap what happened in
the first and second rounds. And yeah, stick with us.
Thank you to home-field apparel. We're looking forward to that
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quickly as we can. Anyway, for Scott, I'm Galen and
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