1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,600 You're listening to the back home network presented by home 2 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:23,100 field apparel. Hi folks, welcome back to 3 00:00:23,100 --> 00:00:26,400 Crimson cash. Scott here with you apologize. 4 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:31,100 That we had a week off. I was in Out of country with my 5 00:00:31,100 --> 00:00:32,700 family. Went to the Caribbean. 6 00:00:32,700 --> 00:00:35,100 It was it was awesome. Highly recommend for everybody? 7 00:00:35,100 --> 00:00:38,500 It was nice. I did text James a couple times 8 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:41,200 and I sent him some pictures of where I, where was that. 9 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,300 He's like, you don't want to talk about IU Rutgers and you're 10 00:00:43,300 --> 00:00:45,300 looking at that and no, I really didn't. 11 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,900 But before we get to James and Crimson cash, just a quick shout 12 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:53,100 out to our sponsors here on the home network and Crimson cast 13 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:55,300 home field apparel. It's awesome. 14 00:00:55,300 --> 00:00:59,400 I I had a friend that play in a golf league top golf league on 15 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,100 Monday night. Said A buddy of mine in our team 16 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,200 buddy of a buddy. But, you know, now, a buddy guy 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,500 named Brooks. Shout-out has actually not heard 18 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:10,200 of hope-filled. 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I know they just released the 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:43,200 harvard-yale gear, they have a really cool TCU Horned, Frogs 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,400 hoodie, everything about that sounds great. 31 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,000 It's a purple. Hoodie don't have enough purple 32 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:50,200 in the wardrobe. So gotta add that. 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:54,000 But yeah, give him love use promo code home for 50 percent 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:55,800 off. Your first purchase and be like 35 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:58,300 Brooks as we all should be. All right? 36 00:01:58,300 --> 00:02:01,400 James, I'm back. How did you do without me? 37 00:02:01,500 --> 00:02:04,200 I mean, I know you miss me for a week, but how was I was gambling 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,400 for me on your week off? Well, we did pretty well, we 39 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:12,200 posted on Twitter and we had a very, very good week. 40 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,000 So I think it was like, 7 and 3 or 7 and 1, or something like 41 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,400 that. And up 70, some bucks. 42 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:23,300 So very good. Nice bouncy. 43 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:26,600 Probably would have won the harmonica bet last week, I'm 44 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,000 still up for of, we're still at 423 for the week, but I could 45 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 have used another and Other week was going to work where we were 46 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,300 at YouTube TV didn't work. Try to pull up some of the 47 00:02:35,900 --> 00:02:38,300 gaming apps, the Action Network, see some of my bets were doing. 48 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:40,800 It was just, it wasn't working a different country. 49 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,900 So and I also did spend a lot of time trying to figure it out. 50 00:02:43,900 --> 00:02:47,100 Well, yeah, you're excused. That's quite all right. 51 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:49,900 Thank you. Well, we look at this week, 52 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,200 we'll save our thoughts for Indiana at the end. 53 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,100 They do not play this week mercifully. 54 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:58,100 Yeah, yeah, for all of us. Thanks, thanks everybody. 55 00:02:58,100 --> 00:03:03,200 But first one, keeping Trend, as we called in week one, Ohio 56 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,400 state is still a double-digit favorite. 57 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:08,900 Even though they're playing on the road, they're probably 58 00:03:08,900 --> 00:03:11,500 playing their toughest Road game of the year, they're at Penn 59 00:03:11,500 --> 00:03:14,800 State. They are still coming in as a 15 60 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,100 and a half Point favorites. I thought about this one for a 61 00:03:19,100 --> 00:03:22,100 harmonica bet level. Like I'm that's a big number. 62 00:03:22,300 --> 00:03:25,500 I think Penn State's good. It's going to be a new in-game. 63 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:27,900 It's not going to be a knight whiteout, which maybe might have 64 00:03:27,900 --> 00:03:31,100 given Penn State a little more Rashad, but I I don't think this 65 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:32,600 is the game. You're going to have a bet on, 66 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,400 but what do you think? Ohio State, can they cover 15 67 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:39,500 and a half in Happy Valley? The over-under on that game 68 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:42,200 Scott is 61. Is that correct? 69 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,300 That is what I see for, for bed, MGM. 70 00:03:45,300 --> 00:03:51,500 Yes, That's your back, baby? Right there, take the over on 71 00:03:51,500 --> 00:03:54,700 this game. Okay, I'm gonna and I'm going to 72 00:03:54,700 --> 00:03:58,700 throw in a little extra for you here to Ohio State team, total 73 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:01,900 over thirty eight and a half. I think that I think they hit 74 00:04:01,900 --> 00:04:04,500 that too. So that's why I love this over 75 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:07,200 61 here. The Buckeyes have scored at 76 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:12,600 least 49 points in five straight games the over his hit and five 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,500 straight games Penn State's over his hit in three of the last 78 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:20,300 five. Is and so I think we're going to 79 00:04:20,300 --> 00:04:23,000 see some points and Happy Valley on Saturday. 80 00:04:23,300 --> 00:04:25,300 We know the Buckeyes are going to put up points. 81 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:27,800 I think their defense is porous enough. 82 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:32,800 That Penn State can also put up a few, you know, touchdowns so 83 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:34,600 yeah. Give me the over on that, and 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,100 you should be putting 10 bucks on that as well. 85 00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:39,300 Oh, I will be you played the harmonica. 86 00:04:39,300 --> 00:04:42,700 I have to look at that scenario. Contract the rules, right? 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,300 Yeah, this is real. So I have a little bit put off 88 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:49,400 because I mean, I thought I can't guess over unders to like, 89 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,900 I thought the harmonica was always going to be point spread, 90 00:04:52,900 --> 00:04:55,200 but we'll let this one slide. I'll put the money on it and if 91 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,900 I win, I'll always love it. You know, betting in war. 92 00:04:57,900 --> 00:05:01,600 So to speak the over-under on this game opened at 55 and a 93 00:05:01,608 --> 00:05:07,100 half, so we're able to get anything under sub 61, you can 94 00:05:07,100 --> 00:05:11,300 get it for as low as 60 and a half and as high as 60 to right 95 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:14,300 now, depending on what book you're looking at. 96 00:05:14,300 --> 00:05:16,800 So you can look at an alternate lines. 97 00:05:17,500 --> 00:05:21,200 But say you got one of those single game parley boosts or, 98 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,200 you know, a free single game, parlay better. 99 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,300 This is the big thing there. Hawking now because your chances 100 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:29,800 of winning over crap that's why they bet on them. 101 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,500 But if you got one of those and you're feeling a little you know 102 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:39,600 frisky well take the over, take the OSU team total over and then 103 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,200 you know tossin OSU and it you know maybe an alternate line 104 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:44,900 that you like maybe get them under two touchdowns at 13 and a 105 00:05:44,900 --> 00:05:47,900 half or something like that. But this might be one. 106 00:05:47,900 --> 00:05:50,800 I might do something like that on, because I kind of like, I 107 00:05:50,808 --> 00:05:52,700 think it's going to be a fairly high scoring game. 108 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:56,200 I think it's going to be like, 49 to like 24 or something like 109 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,100 that. It's kind of where I see this 110 00:05:58,100 --> 00:06:02,900 game plan out, so I'm probably going to put a couple bucks on a 111 00:06:02,900 --> 00:06:05,300 single gum game part away. I'll post that on Twitter. 112 00:06:05,900 --> 00:06:07,600 Okay. Now, I just, I love looking at 113 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,200 the the line movement and you taught me this to kind of try 114 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,600 and get those lines early. So if you were able to hop on, 115 00:06:13,900 --> 00:06:17,500 you know, an over-under like 56 or 57 that would have Devon a 116 00:06:17,500 --> 00:06:19,000 great pickup. Well, and that's the thing. 117 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,800 If you're doing the same again, part away, you don't feel so bad 118 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,700 buying down on those points so you can get a, you know? 119 00:06:24,700 --> 00:06:27,400 Well hey maybe I want 56. Well you can get that you're 120 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,600 just you know combine it with some other things you know. 121 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:33,700 So you can be fine. Doing that the Rutgers Scarlet 122 00:06:33,700 --> 00:06:37,400 Knights who are not the worst team in the Big Ten because they 123 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 can beat Indiana. They are traveling to Minnesota. 124 00:06:40,300 --> 00:06:43,600 They are a 14 and a half Point underdog. 125 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:49,800 Who that hook there. So get them at 14, at some 126 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:54,800 places and and so if you can get them at less than 14, 127 00:06:55,300 --> 00:07:00,000 definitely, I like Minnesota at Twin by two touchdowns, at least 128 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:05,600 hear the over-under on this game is 40.5, which seems kind of low 129 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,500 to me, but I also don't trust either of these offenses to 130 00:07:09,500 --> 00:07:14,600 score enough points. So give me the Gophers 14, but 131 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:16,600 I'm not. Going to be betting on this one 132 00:07:17,300 --> 00:07:19,700 and the over-under. If I'm looking at that, I would 133 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,400 shade towards the under We have Illinois. 134 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:29,800 Who Indiana be somehow? They're ranked 17th in the 135 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,700 country. Illinois is going to Nebraska. 136 00:07:32,700 --> 00:07:35,700 Illinois is a seven and a half Point favorite. 137 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,500 Yeah, that it needed a win over. Illinois is more and more 138 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:44,800 mind-boggling every week and maybe Bret Bielema is just using 139 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,000 that as motivation for his team. I don't know what's going on, 140 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,800 but give me the Illini, and I'm going to play those points. 141 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,400 I don't think the brassicas very good. 142 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,200 It would annoy seems to be pretty decent. 143 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,800 So yeah, all they all lay a touchdown on them. 144 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,400 I feel like if Indiana played Illinois next week for more news 145 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,000 like it's just feels like maybe Illinois, came in and see enough 146 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,400 tape, I don't know. But that, that game is more and 147 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,200 more perplexing as the week's go by. 148 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,800 I hate to say it's got. But is it possible that Tom 149 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:19,600 Allen smoking mirrors and refusing to name a key starting 150 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,700 QB? Actually worked and it might 151 00:08:22,700 --> 00:08:25,700 have been enough of A Wrinkle to throw be him off his game. 152 00:08:27,300 --> 00:08:30,800 It's it's popping in. This is the, I mean, This is the 153 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:35,299 best the best wind since like in the last two years. 154 00:08:35,299 --> 00:08:37,600 For Tom Allen, right? Like yeah, I was waiting for a 155 00:08:37,608 --> 00:08:40,900 two-year stretch but you're right and unfortunately he's 156 00:08:40,900 --> 00:08:44,100 probably going to learn the wrong lessons and go double down 157 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:46,400 next year. Like just just have like total 158 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:48,200 smoking mirrors for everything. We have a know who? 159 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,900 Yeah well quarterback. I've never heard of it. 160 00:08:52,700 --> 00:08:55,500 Hopefully we don't even know what the position is we're 161 00:08:55,500 --> 00:08:57,600 running Wishbone. Like maybe we're not, maybe we 162 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:59,600 are, maybe we're going to never plant. 163 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,300 Who knows? All right, we have got the over 164 00:09:03,300 --> 00:09:04,500 unders. Keep going down. 165 00:09:04,500 --> 00:09:07,200 This is about as bad. An over-under matchup. 166 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:10,500 As you can have, we have Northwestern at Iowa. 167 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:14,600 I may be Iowa at Northwestern might provide a slightly lower 168 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:20,800 over under but you have Iowa favored by 10 and 11 and a half 169 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:22,700 at home. It this is again. 170 00:09:22,700 --> 00:09:26,500 Another reason I will die on this hill, I have 18 more months 171 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:29,100 of this. The Big Ten West is just 172 00:09:29,100 --> 00:09:31,500 garbage. Like, in know, Other division 173 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,300 would Iowa be a double-digit favorite at home? 174 00:09:35,700 --> 00:09:39,200 But yet in the Big Ten West, they are there at 11. 175 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:43,400 A half Point favorite and the over unders 37 and Iowa's 176 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,900 garbage. Like none of these things, add 177 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:48,400 up to making me ever, get off the stuff that the Big Ten West 178 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,500 is absolute garbage, but anyway, a lot of stuff there, Iowa 179 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:52,600 Northwestern. What do you like? 180 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:57,500 Well, if you if you look around, you can still get 37 and a half. 181 00:09:57,700 --> 00:10:01,600 So, take the under and Watch this people. 182 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:03,800 God, don't watch this football game. 183 00:10:04,100 --> 00:10:05,600 Its name wouldn't be good for you. 184 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:09,600 You scare me with these unders Ivy, you've had the bed Iowa 185 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,700 under his before. Didn't calm down, calm down. 186 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:18,500 You're not been every one of these, and the bets I recommend 187 00:10:18,500 --> 00:10:20,000 are the ones that go up on Twitter. 188 00:10:20,500 --> 00:10:22,200 So, you know, you people will know. 189 00:10:22,300 --> 00:10:25,900 And a lot of times these games are in there or in some sort of 190 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:28,700 parley, if some sort fair enough. 191 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:31,500 All right. Next up is Michigan State season 192 00:10:31,500 --> 00:10:34,300 on the line. They are three and four, you 193 00:10:34,308 --> 00:10:35,900 know, for having such a bad year, they're only three and 194 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:41,600 four, but they're at Michigan. And Michigan is a 22 and a half. 195 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:43,600 Favorite. But yet this is the kind of game 196 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,600 that Michigan State, always plays tough. 197 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:48,900 And it does have that feel where it's like Michigan State can 198 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:51,500 have a dumpster Fire season but they beat Michigan and all is 199 00:10:51,500 --> 00:10:54,900 right. Do you like the Spartans to 200 00:10:54,900 --> 00:10:57,400 cover that you like the Spartans moneyline? 201 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,100 What you feel here? No, I do not like the Spartans 202 00:11:01,100 --> 00:11:04,500 money online. I think Michigan would probably 203 00:11:04,500 --> 00:11:08,800 cover. Just I know it's rivalry game 204 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,300 and I hate to do this. And I normally would never do 205 00:11:11,300 --> 00:11:14,400 this in a rivalry game, but I just don't think Michigan 206 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:19,800 State's that great and Michigan. Seems to be kind of the real 207 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:21,800 deal. I mean, their toughest game so 208 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:28,000 far, was probably the Maryland game and I don't think that 209 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,200 Michigan state is as good as Maryland. 210 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,900 So I don't know. It's a rivalry game though. 211 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,500 So, do with that, what you will, I like the over here, as well. 212 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:41,000 It's 55. I think. 213 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:44,000 That'll probably end up hitting, but if Michigan State's wins, 214 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,100 it's going to be an under type game. 215 00:11:46,100 --> 00:11:49,400 So, you know, that's what that's, I think, what they're 216 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,400 hoping for some ugly, you know, 18. 217 they squeaked it out 217 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,400 Victory. I don't see that as likely 218 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:02,900 There's a real real tasty moneyline parlay on the table 219 00:12:02,900 --> 00:12:05,000 here. If you look at like, you know, 220 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:09,800 all moneyline to wins Ohio State, Minnesota, Illinois, Iowa 221 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:15,300 Michigan. that, that seems Pretty tasty. 222 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:17,200 So someone's going to screw that up. 223 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Who is among that group is more most likely to screw it up. 224 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:28,000 It's a great question. I would say probably Iowa, 225 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:35,600 although Minnesota could too. I think it's probably Illinois 226 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,600 because it's a road game in Nebraska. 227 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:43,400 And you know, but And it would annoy, I mean, let's face it, 228 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,700 they're not, you know, 1948 army or, you know, you know something 229 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:48,900 like that. You know this isn't what? 230 00:12:48,900 --> 00:12:53,100 The Grateful great great call. Wow, that's a, the last great TV 231 00:12:53,100 --> 00:12:55,800 could think of, I was channeling. 232 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,700 My inner be no cook. I guess, I don't know. 233 00:13:02,100 --> 00:13:07,300 Before we before we move on to Hawaii, it's been two weeks 234 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:12,000 since we talked Indiana has lost a Maryland Indiana has lost to 235 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,700 Rutgers Galen. I have done one pretty one, 236 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:18,700 postgame pod but let's give you some time to chat about IU 237 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:21,600 football how how you feel and how things how things different? 238 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,300 Now that were two weeks later. Things aren't different. 239 00:13:25,300 --> 00:13:28,400 They still suck. And the quarterback still sucks 240 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:33,800 and continues to play every down and the coaching staff continues 241 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,700 to be inept and unable to make any changes within a football 242 00:13:37,700 --> 00:13:42,700 game that are effective. So, really nothing much has 243 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:46,900 changed in the last couple weeks, other than the record and 244 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:50,200 the record in the loss column. So, you know, I mean, I don't 245 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,600 know, I guess we're just stuck with this. 246 00:13:54,100 --> 00:13:56,600 You know I mean I don't know what else to say you do at this 247 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,800 point. I mean I don't see how it's 248 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:01,400 going to get better. We don't we won't win another 249 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,400 game this year. I can tell you that I don't 250 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:07,500 think so either. I've been saying for a couple 251 00:14:07,500 --> 00:14:10,900 weeks now and I've said in crackpot, I'm not sure. 252 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:14,800 We will be a within single digits on spread the rest of the 253 00:14:14,808 --> 00:14:19,600 year. Oh no, well, Michigan State. 254 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:21,700 Now, that's all Road and it's on the road. 255 00:14:21,700 --> 00:14:23,900 Yeah, yeah. I mean, and if Michigan State, 256 00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:26,500 we could go out and upset Michigan, coming forget about it 257 00:14:26,500 --> 00:14:30,500 will be, you know, 12 to Half Point dogs or something easy. 258 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,200 So, yeah, I guess unless Purdue like loses out or something, but 259 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,200 I'm with you. And I'm not sure, I think we'll 260 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,900 probably lose out as well and I'm not sure we'll cover any of 261 00:14:41,908 --> 00:14:43,900 those spreads the rest of the year either. 262 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:47,400 Yeah. It's a, it's a sad State of 263 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:52,500 Affairs and you're not there, I guess, you know, you're not 264 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:55,400 getting rid of Tom Allen. So I don't know what else can 265 00:14:55,400 --> 00:15:00,700 be, what else they can do, you know, I mean, so at this point, 266 00:15:00,700 --> 00:15:03,300 I guess we just get back to where we were when I, you 267 00:15:03,300 --> 00:15:09,300 football was a laughingstock doormat every year and wait for 268 00:15:09,300 --> 00:15:11,700 basketball season. I mean, I guess that's why I'm 269 00:15:11,700 --> 00:15:13,700 back to you. I have been an IU football fan, 270 00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:16,900 my entire Her life. So like my first games were in 271 00:15:16,900 --> 00:15:20,900 the ER you know, the early 80s mid 80s, you know, when I was 272 00:15:20,900 --> 00:15:23,400 old enough, you know, to know what's going on. 273 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:31,900 So I've been through this a lot and so I just got a problem was 274 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,300 Tom. Allen made me believe for a very 275 00:15:34,300 --> 00:15:38,400 small period of time and and I should have never let that 276 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:39,600 happen. I should have known better. 277 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:44,000 Yeah, don't ever believe but you and I are in similar boats 278 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:48,200 because I started to go to games and probably like 88 87, 88 like 279 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,800 right near the the middle, the Heyday, the Mallory era. 280 00:15:52,900 --> 00:15:59,700 So I've been at this awhile to, maybe it's our age and you know, 281 00:15:59,700 --> 00:16:02,600 I'm staring down the barrel of like, you know, I'm right in 282 00:16:02,608 --> 00:16:05,000 that point where I have as many seasons ahead of me as I have 283 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:07,000 behind me of watching. I you football. 284 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:11,500 Hopefully more ahead but something feels different about 285 00:16:11,500 --> 00:16:13,300 this. Like this is almost more 286 00:16:13,300 --> 00:16:19,900 depressing because Cuz we've had we've been bad but we've been 287 00:16:19,900 --> 00:16:22,400 bad to start careers like, I mean, you know, Kevin Wilson was 288 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,800 the 0 and 11 and then like, you know, one no big ten games as 289 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,400 first year. 1 is s but it's like you're building something. 290 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,600 You have some players in the pipe, you're kind of excited. 291 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,800 You you looking for growth. We've been bad at the end where 292 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,000 it's like all right you know Mallory has to garbage years and 293 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,100 cigar we're going to fire him and we'll get somebody else 294 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:39,300 thinking. It's going to be good not 295 00:16:39,300 --> 00:16:42,200 knowing it won't. I don't remember a situation 296 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,000 like this where we're just were Whining. 297 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,100 We're bottom of the Big Ten, but we're not at the beginning or 298 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:50,400 the end of any cycle like we're right in the middle of a 299 00:16:50,408 --> 00:16:55,200 coaching cycle and we know that nothing is going to change for 300 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,900 two to four years at any of the high level coaching positions. 301 00:16:58,900 --> 00:17:02,100 And so it's like that's that's a weird spot to be in and it's 302 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:06,700 also very resigning that it's like, I'm not optimistic for the 303 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:09,099 future because I know there's not we're not growing towards 304 00:17:09,099 --> 00:17:11,400 something and we're not going to have a quick change, a coach. 305 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:13,500 It's like this is I don't know, man. 306 00:17:14,300 --> 00:17:17,599 Do you feel any of that if we were in the middle of Jerry to 307 00:17:17,599 --> 00:17:22,200 Nardo's last season? And you knew for a fact, we had 308 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,099 him for another two years, at least after that. 309 00:17:25,099 --> 00:17:27,800 How would you feel? Because that's what it feels. 310 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,800 Like, I'm watching here. I mean, this is dinardo era, IU 311 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:35,300 football, and this is just a train wreck, you know, no, one 312 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:37,600 more star do one more, big 10 games. 313 00:17:40,300 --> 00:17:43,900 All right, well, okay, so this is Denardo s would even worse. 314 00:17:43,900 --> 00:17:45,400 If you don't. Like, you know, why thing is, 315 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,600 you know, when we had antwaan Randle out, we were a bad 316 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,500 football team, but man, they were fun to watch, you know, 317 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,600 when Kevin Wilson took over, we were a bad football team. 318 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,900 The man we were fun to watch because, you know, at least we 319 00:17:57,900 --> 00:17:59,700 played a agreeable side of the ball. 320 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,000 We're just bad on both sides of the football now, and none of 321 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,300 it's fun to watch. Yeah. 322 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:11,400 Now it's it's pretty impressive. A sketball season is right, as a 323 00:18:11,408 --> 00:18:14,100 true IU football fan. I will remind you the basketball 324 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:15,600 season is right around the corner. 325 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:20,300 Yeah. I mean, but is this like we've 326 00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:22,500 both been at this for a while, like is this enough to make you 327 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:25,400 check out of IU football for like seasons on a time? 328 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,500 No, no. I mean, that's how I like to 329 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:31,900 spend my Saturday afternoon. I mean, that's what I do. 330 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:35,500 So, you know, I'm not going to like, you know, stop watching 331 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:39,700 football, you know, and I'm still watch out you football and 332 00:18:39,700 --> 00:18:43,600 I still root for and I'll still have some action on the games so 333 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:48,800 it's not enough to make me check out, but A much less likely to 334 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,100 drive down a Bloomington to go to a game you know I've already 335 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:54,300 debated. Am I going to go to my annual 336 00:18:54,300 --> 00:18:57,200 game next year? You know really you're already 337 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,500 thinking about that for next year. 338 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,600 Well I'm gonna end up going because it's not a really about 339 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,900 the game but you know like right but that's why I'll be going. 340 00:19:05,900 --> 00:19:09,400 I won't be going for the game. You know, I'll be going for the 341 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:11,800 other things included with going to the game. 342 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:17,100 So you know I mean they You could have had me if they were 343 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:20,100 to turn this thing around, but we should have known better, you 344 00:19:20,100 --> 00:19:23,800 know, with such a fluky weird season that that would be the 345 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:29,500 one time would be actually pretty decent and I'm not sure 346 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:34,400 we'll ever win a Big Ten Championship in my lifetime but 347 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,400 I don't remember for sure. I don't foresee that happening 348 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,700 in my lifetime. Maybe my son's life time, I 349 00:19:39,700 --> 00:19:43,700 don't know but but you'd say in our life you know in the last 30 350 00:19:43,700 --> 00:19:47,700 years aside from the Schools that just joined the Big Ten 351 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:49,200 peasant. Every other school been to a 352 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,400 Rose Bowl. Yeah, you know I mean that that 353 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:58,700 is mind-boggling bad. You know I you going now also 354 00:19:58,700 --> 00:20:01,600 hold the record for most of the losses ever by a division one 355 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,700 college football team with over 700. 356 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,800 Yeah, well, it's you mentioned, you know, the coming down for 357 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,300 other things. Like I've definitely hit the 358 00:20:13,300 --> 00:20:16,100 point, we have two more games. I've talked to my wife about it, 359 00:20:16,108 --> 00:20:18,500 like we're planning on coming down for Penn State and Purdue. 360 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:21,000 But now we're in the mode of we're going to come down 361 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:25,300 earlier, enjoy tailgate more. Probably be at the game last but 362 00:20:25,300 --> 00:20:29,100 like everything now is highly weather-dependent - I still have 363 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:32,500 a nine-year-old 26 year old and you know it's like if it's going 364 00:20:32,500 --> 00:20:36,300 to be really cold or wet or snowy like we're out. 365 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,100 Look it's like I'm If we were good, I debate but it's like now 366 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:42,900 everything is weather dependent for us. 367 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,900 See the beauty of it is you can use your kids as an excuse to so 368 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:51,700 he like it's too cold for them. When were secretly is don't want 369 00:20:51,700 --> 00:20:54,300 to have to schlep all the way down there and sit on the cold. 370 00:20:54,300 --> 00:20:57,000 Watch this football. Yeah but it's funny, you 371 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,800 mentioned the Big Ten, you know, winning the Big Ten title. 372 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,600 I will say this, I stand by it. I've been saying this for 373 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:07,100 probably 15 years and now it's like we've gotten to a point. 374 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:09,200 Two things that I've always said, are colliding, like I was 375 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,600 like we ever make a Rose Bowl of probably be like with a Rose 376 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,000 Bowl, doesn't exist anymore. Like we missed our chance and 377 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,400 we're probably barreling toward that time. 378 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,200 When the Big 10 PAC, 12 thing is gone because we've destroyed the 379 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,700 Pac-12. But I always said this, I would 380 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:25,500 say it now with maybe like the college football, playoff or the 381 00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:29,000 Big Ten title game or I'm not sure what, but I always says for 382 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:33,400 the Rose Bowl for the last 15 years, that if I, you would have 383 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,800 made the Rose Bowl, like I was going to go, like, I didn't care 384 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,200 what it. Son tickets. 385 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:41,200 You know, I had the talk with my wife, like what number is too 386 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,000 high. I'm like, there's not like, I 387 00:21:43,008 --> 00:21:46,100 mean, I think even if we're in like the 20, 30 grand range, 388 00:21:46,100 --> 00:21:48,800 like I'm going and I'm going to go to the Rose Bowl because my 389 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,900 point was always this, my grandmother was born in 1911 and 390 00:21:52,900 --> 00:21:57,100 she passed away in 2008 by all intents and purposes. 391 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:01,900 She had a very nice long healthy life that we would all hope to 392 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:04,600 have. She was cognizant and doing 393 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,200 well, all through those, you know, whatever 96. 394 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,500 Years. She saw, I you make one Rose 395 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:14,200 Bowl like it, her lifetime. She had a good run. 396 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:18,100 She got one shot at it and she didn't and she was like a huge 397 00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:21,700 football fan but she didn't go. And it's like, I hope to live 398 00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:24,200 90-plus years. Like I can't if they're going to 399 00:22:24,208 --> 00:22:25,500 make one. I can't like well I'll get the 400 00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:27,200 next one. It's like it's like Halley's 401 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,900 Comet. You're going to get one shot in 402 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:32,700 your life maybe you better go. So I would say that's all I you 403 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:34,900 football fans. Like, maybe the bar is making it 404 00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:38,800 to the Big Ten title game now like That's not as tough a bar 405 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,300 to climb. But yeah, I'm with you man. 406 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,800 Like, if we ever make a run at any of that stuff, like, we all 407 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,500 should just go immediately and go do it because it's not like 408 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:50,600 we're going to do it again. Yeah, I mean when the comes made 409 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,800 the World Series I was absolutely in Chicago, you know? 410 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:57,200 I mean so I mean I totally get what you're saying and I would 411 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,900 have done the same thing. The Rose Bowl that would've just 412 00:22:59,908 --> 00:23:02,200 been amazing, you know, experience and by you could have 413 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,500 made it and I could have gone. I definitely would have. 414 00:23:04,500 --> 00:23:08,200 But as it stands doesn't look like that's going to happen in 415 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:13,100 its current format. But I don't think a Big Ten 416 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:16,900 title game is the end all be all I would want to win that title. 417 00:23:16,900 --> 00:23:19,700 If if we're talking about Like, you know, because winning the 418 00:23:20,300 --> 00:23:23,600 the conference that's what I want, you know, and that I think 419 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,300 would include the title game. Yeah, I think that's me. 420 00:23:27,300 --> 00:23:29,400 Gotta Give me that would be the Dream Season that's the 421 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,200 equivalent of going to the rolls Bol if you're not going to go to 422 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,800 a role as well. That's the equivalent for me a 423 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,800 great. Although I do think, I think in 424 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,800 two years were going to go to the Rose Bowl Parade. 425 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,500 I'm just like, I want to go. Do it looks like fun. 426 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,000 I've always wanted to see it in person and obviously, I use not 427 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,700 going to get there for me to be watching them. 428 00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:49,400 So I'll go rude on. You have a root on like in 429 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,700 Wisconsin or somebody or probably, Ohio State. 430 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:55,900 But anyway, let's get to our last game of our picks, your 431 00:23:56,200 --> 00:24:02,300 Hawaii rainbows. They are hosting Wyoming and 432 00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:03,800 there are 10 point Underdog at home. 433 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,200 Ten and a half Point. Underdog at home, over under 50 434 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,300 and a half. Give us your give us your 435 00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:09,200 Hawaii. Take. 436 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,000 This is definitely definitely under pick. 437 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,900 I think this gives going to be super low scoring. 438 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:23,200 Both of these teams are are notorious for the under and I 439 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,300 see no difference here. Hawaii still struggles to I move 440 00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:29,600 the ball, although their defense has shown Signs of Life lately. 441 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,600 They had a pretty good scrap against Colorado State last 442 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:39,300 week, but were unable to pull it out in the end, which was good 443 00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:41,500 because we bet against them on Twitter. 444 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:46,800 So, I like the under here. Okay, keep our Hawaii rainbows. 445 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,800 Look alive. And there you go, man. 446 00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:53,700 So yeah, keep up with James on Twitter at cribs and cast, 260. 447 00:24:53,700 --> 00:24:57,400 You put everything up there and you can Along with them and have 448 00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:59,900 good weeks. Like you did last week even did 449 00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:01,600 some my in-game wedding last week. 450 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:03,700 So if you're following along, while you're watching the games, 451 00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:08,600 I'm posting my in-game beds. We took Purdue because it had a 452 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,900 sweat for a while. When they got down early and 453 00:25:11,900 --> 00:25:15,600 took him plus a bunch of points and keep our fingers crossed and 454 00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:18,600 ended up covering. So so those in-game bets are a 455 00:25:18,608 --> 00:25:21,600 great way to go people. If you're if you're not sure on 456 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,600 a line, give it a few minutes into a game, you'll get a better 457 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,900 feel for then. Go ahead. 458 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,400 Bat or let's say, Michigan, Michigan State Michigan's up by 459 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,300 23, you know, their, that's their spread. 460 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,900 So they will say, Michigan, State scores. 461 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,300 I don't know. A touchdown and then gets a pick 462 00:25:38,300 --> 00:25:40,400 six or something. And all of a sudden about 14 to 463 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,900 nothing, well, that line is going to swing huge, you know. 464 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,800 So you know, that might be the time, you know, or if there's 465 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,300 not a lot of movement, let's say, well, they, you know, 466 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:53,400 there's not a lot of movement, it still has Michigan State plus 467 00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:56,900 you know 20. Well they're already up a The 14 468 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,400 and you're getting an additional 20 points, that's 34 total 469 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,500 points, you just got 11 points, more than what you got, you 470 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:06,300 know, to start the game or would have got to start the game. 471 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:08,300 So, the in-game betting is a lot of fun. 472 00:26:08,300 --> 00:26:11,300 I highly recommend it. Give it a shot, see what you 473 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:13,200 think. Totally agree. 474 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,200 And I look at like that Penn State, Ohio, State game. 475 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,100 Like that's probably how I'm going to play it because I think 476 00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:21,900 Ohio State's going to win. But yeah, even if Penn State got 477 00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:24,900 up by ten nothing or early, it's like that's great because that's 478 00:26:24,900 --> 00:26:27,700 probably dropped that. A game line to probably like 7 479 00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:29,600 or 8. And now, it's like now I can get 480 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,700 Ohio State's cover seven and I'm really happy this. 481 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:37,600 This method also works great in the MBA because every NBA game 482 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,400 is just a game of a bunch of runs. 483 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,800 So you'll see the lines move like crazy on an NBA game. 484 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,300 You'll be able to get both teams in any NBA game. 485 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:47,800 Probably getting Five Points, that's it, you know, it's a 486 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:52,300 point within the game usually, so a lot of fun there if you 487 00:26:52,308 --> 00:26:55,800 guys haven't tried that, Yeah, I bet against the Pacers is going 488 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,600 to be fun this year, because not only, is it, like your I want 489 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,300 the Pacers to lose as a Pacers fan. 490 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,100 So I feel I feel good betting against them and rooting for it. 491 00:27:03,500 --> 00:27:05,100 I'm wearing a Pacer shirt right now. 492 00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:08,300 And the thing is there tanking, but they're tanking with class, 493 00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:10,500 you know, they're still putting up a little bit of fight, you 494 00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:12,800 know, they're still getting close to covering some spreads 495 00:27:14,300 --> 00:27:17,700 but Benedict math or and has been hitting his over points, 496 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:20,000 totals on a pretty regular basis. 497 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,500 So keep an eye out on that. It's funny there like my fantasy 498 00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:25,000 football. All team, like I watched the 499 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,800 pace like that. You think they're pretty good? 500 00:27:26,900 --> 00:27:28,800 Like, I know they're bad areas are the worst team in the league 501 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,700 but it's like, dude, Halliburton and matheran. 502 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,800 It's like they're I like that core but I really bad like that. 503 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,700 Yeah, they're bad but they're fun to watch, right? 504 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:43,700 I mean there Kevin Wilson football, you know, I mean, All 505 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:46,800 we got to do is add Victor, so, all right, enough enough, 506 00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:49,700 basketball, talk, James, it's been a pleasure as always. 507 00:27:49,700 --> 00:27:51,500 We'll catch you next week and for everybody out there, 508 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:55,000 listening, appreciate it. As always enjoy the weekend off, 509 00:27:55,300 --> 00:27:59,500 without some IU football, you do have IU exhibition basketball. 510 00:27:59,500 --> 00:28:02,700 So let's get that going. But till next time, appreciate 511 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:05,500 you guys all for listening, this is Scott for Crimson cash 512 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:13,600 signing off, come stai. They're bad but they're fun to 513 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,300 watch, right? I mean there Kevin Wilson.