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ale and clavijo here as it is. 
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It's an exciting time for most 
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2021 to be over with. 
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No Scott today on the podcast. 

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So sorry if that is a 
disappointment to his fans, but 

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I wanted to tackle some of these
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what what thoughts I could 
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there. 
So we had a couple of questions 

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that I'll jump on right away. 
So our friend Mark Kate, you 

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know, for actually first of all 
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I did want to send out a big 
congratulations to longtime 

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friend of the Pod and occasional
host of the Pod or, or 

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interviewer call screener back 
in the day, but Matt Blasco 

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getting married today on New 
Year's Eve in Bloomington. 

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So biggest, congratulations to 
Matt and his new bride Cheyenne.

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As we're looking forward to 
helping them get married today. 

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So really exciting times in the,
the Crimson cast extended. 

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Mele congrats to Matt and shy 
and we look forward and wish 

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them all the very best in the 
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Let me jump on this first 
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Katie good friend of the podcast
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rib roast. 
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of different directions. 
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I know many of you have gone to 
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dinner perspective or something 
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know, many of you have been 
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More people are hopping on the 
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other larger roasts, whether 
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So, I think the biggest thing 
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approach the different parts of 
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week actually and I think he was
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Don't like rib roast bones. 
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would recommend that you embrace
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the best tasting meat on the rib
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of the rib roast is rather than 
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roast, but they go incredibly 
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I know that's probably not what 
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take those rib bones. 
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couple of days, maybe lightly, 
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a little bit of the maillard 
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treat because it's normally one 
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different flavor profiles that 
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with the main rib roast. 
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left over and almost everybody 
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way to turn that into a slightly
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just It is important. 
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when we were talking about this 
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of keys and sauce and small rib 
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That's that's a really nice way 
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things, chopping up some Some of
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making essentially a hash or 
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That's the problem, with all 
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still going to have a lot of rib
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So the other key is, if you can 
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roast in a way where you can get
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That's got some real. 
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You don't want to overcook the 
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of your slices, but getting a 
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little bit of texture, 
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different parts of the rib, 
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Always a good way to go and that
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So there's a bunch of different 
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But I tend to get creative a 
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lifespan of the rib roast all 
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really finely sliced rib roast 
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flavoring in on that front. 
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many carbs you want to consume 
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rib roast, so hopefully that's 
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We had a couple of questions. 
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So Andy stop asked my top five 
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I actually don't feel 
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pizzas in the state because 
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children, it's really been six 
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Like I used to, so, I don't 
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If I'm going around and trying 
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might be five or six years old. 
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And I'm talking about the 
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That was that was excellent. 
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So I grew up as I think some of,
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Lafayette area and if you grow 
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growing up with our knees pizza.
That's That's one. 

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I wish we had closer to 
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There's one in Columbus. 
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So it's about a 45-minute drive 
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Either way. 
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Indiana style pizza for lack of 
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dough and the crumble sausage 
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So that's always up there for 
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And then I'm going to get to 
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here in a minute, but I'm 
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ever ever get out of this 
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state and starting the pizza 
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Once again, I hear great things 
about places all over the state 

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and I want to start experiencing
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So I'm looking forward to 
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It's been too long quite 
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So that'll jump us over to 
Dave's question, which is hit us

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with your top b-town. 
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I'll make it easy. 
Best burger best pizza and best 

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overall, so I'm not going to 
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of all, With very few 
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I actually enjoy pretty much 
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There's always something at 
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we'll be happy to try out. 
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I'm I'm a little bit. 
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because a don't want people's 
feelings to get hurt and be my 

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favorites. 
Change on a regular basis, you 

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know, my favorite sushi place 
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month to the next, depending on 
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particular spot. 
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evolving list, but I will give a
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different categories here. 
Maybe that will satisfy the 

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question. 
So let me start with burgers in.

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Bloomington, there's a lot of 
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A lot of people have their 
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We've had some local 
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some, like, best burgers in 
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However, when I read those, I 
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age of 60, like, filled out the 
survey because what you one of 

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the problems you get in 
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something that I noticed living 
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And, you know, I've had an 
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E 5 years at this point like I 
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in the mid-1990s and with a few 
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living somewhere else. 
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basically since then and so it's
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watching things change. 
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from you know, wherever who went
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Everybody wants to come back and
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From when they were in school, 
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know, so it's always we're going
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Bear's and that's essentially 
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And as I've talked about, I 
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go to both of those places on a 
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there's so many other great 
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about because people don't 
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repertoire when they come back, 
they want to go to the places 

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that they really liked when they
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But I feel like part of my job 
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evangelist is to let people know
about other options that are out

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there. 
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Burgers, the three burgers that 
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Bloomington and that I would 
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them are of the Smash Burger 
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the more traditional Burger 
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So I'll start off with the Smash
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right out and say there's one. 
I haven't had a chance to try it

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which is it Southern Stone. 
Looking forward to trying that 

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at some point. 
It just the fates of not aligned

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for me to get over there and try
that, but two that I really 

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enjoy and that we have ordered 
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One is at Hive, which is over at
10th and the bypass at that old 

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shopping center, which they've 
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kitchen secret menu. 
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You have to order it online, but
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It's really well done. 
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taste is very good and add some 
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closer to downtown that I'd 
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and down Kirkwood, but maybe 
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fat dams, which is located in 
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Isan Tie building at fit. 
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Lincoln right across from The 
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much just the straightforward 
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they say, the burger the meat 
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has the most pop of any of the 
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Smash Burgers in town and the 
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burger and it's presented in a 
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The third is the and this is 
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get that. 
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checking it out. 
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It's a nice kind of upscale 
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So that's my thought process on 
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Pizza, you know, there's there's
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I'm a huge fan of right now and 
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shout-out to one of them is the 
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of people I don't think are 
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switchyard is selling pizza or 
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originating from them. 
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the old King do restaurant had 
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making pizzas and selling them. 
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relationship ended and switch 
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pizzas and they're all 
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They've gotta get a bunch of 
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I'm a big fan of, I think the 
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is also very good and that's got
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The breadsticks are also 
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So you get you get some 
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You pair it with a beer. 
That's a pretty good evening 

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well. 
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favorite one that I kind of feel
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of a Renaissance from a 
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I often times felt like I was 
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that. 
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Pizzeria and went to it 
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But to me, it is as good of an 
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pizza that Bloomington has. 
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Twist on it, but it's 
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Our good friend of the Pod IU 
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the double do order which I 
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I am still myself a single do 
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do variety. 
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thinner crust. 
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trappings of the traditional 
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sausage in particular, switcher 
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that in Spades. 
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that out the other one and this 
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DaVinci. 
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Rago in there as well. 
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those locations, I'd recommend 
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and Washington and they have a 
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focuses on a variety of 
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Current types of Italian food, 
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done. 
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These are, you know, probably I 
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maybe 10, inch pizzas, there. 
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Oven set up which makes for a 
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different type of experience 
from the more traditional pizzas

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that you've probably ordered in 
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deal. 
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puffier and I'd say they're 
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conventional but it's still done
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Although it's gonna get pretty 
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whole thing. 
So any of those options are 

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really good in town. 
It's hard for me to pick an 

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absolute favorite because 
they're all a bit different and 

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what they bring to the table and
I'd recommend you check them all

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out. 
One other category. 

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I wanted to hit. 
Is starters in town. 

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We go back and forth. 
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favorite starters are in 
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So a few that have been either 
consistent favorites or have 

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become new favorites here. 
Over the course of the last year

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over Big Woods, the pulled pork 
nachos. 

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That's to me, that's become 
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at Big Woods whether you're here
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Nashville or whether you're up 
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Just a really Solid and very 
consistent, appetizer that eats 

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like a meal. 
I've, in fact, I will order that

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sometimes as just a meal 
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a very simple delivery, but one 
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Social Cantina. 
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chips and salsa flight and it 
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But instead of getting for 
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queso and guacamole along with a
green sauce and a red sauce, and

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the seasoning that Goes on those
chips is always like they eat 

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very well by themselves. 
Let's say so you can either eat 

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them by like that or in tandem 
with the sauces. 

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The other one I'll mention is 
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which are a and an 
accomplishment every time you 

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actually finish those they are 
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kitchen and bow down to those. 
Those are those are her favorite

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in town. 
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you like pulled pork and you 
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cheese all at once. 
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I'll throw in, probably the best
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year is actually a tie in 
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The first is the the Fried 
Chicken and Waffles at Southern 

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Stone. 
That was we saw that pop up on 

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the Bloomington Foodies Facebook
group and we were immediately 

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intrigued because it looked it 
had the right look to it. 

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You kind of you get it used to 
seeing the pictures of these 

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things. 
You're like, yeah. 

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I think that's going to check 
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ever just just an excellent 
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the hot honey that goes with it.
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you're a fan of fried chicken at
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It's not something I eat every 
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Is a hard thing to find. 
Sometimes something that isn't, 

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you know, just mass-produced. 
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So big thumbs up to Southern 
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option there and then the other 
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consistent restaurant in 
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think has, maybe the best array 
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overall experience. 
Great for our anniversary dinner

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this year, my wife and I went to
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steak on the menu item scene, 
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which is a ribeye essentially, 
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And we both had the same steak 
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Perfection really done in a 
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So that was, those are the two 
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most throughout the course of 
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So hopefully that helps some of 
you in terms of if you've, 

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you're not living in 
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traveling back at some point, 
perhaps, these will give you 

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some options that you might I 
have not thought about 

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otherwise, so thanks for the 
question. 

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Dave at some point. 
We will do a food like a drink. 

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I got beer and and cocktail 
podcast and talk a little bit 

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more about that space but we'll 
save that for the new year. 

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Another question this one from 
Andrew Elliot any new album 

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recommendations and and actually
Andrew and I saw each other 

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outside of concert in St. 
Louis about five years ago. 

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So I appreciate him writing in I
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weird. 
Year for me and music. 

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In terms of, it takes new music.
Some time to hit me sometimes, 

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and, and I try not to make any 
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after until like about a year 
sets in. 

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So, I'm still honestly digesting
a lot of the newer music that 

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came out throughout the course 
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So maybe I should be giving my 
20 20 reviews. 

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Now that we're at the end of 20 
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that ahead of time, but a couple
of albums that did stick out the

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new War on Drugs album, it's 
different from the previous War 

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on Drugs albums, by a pretty 
significant margin, but I really

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enjoy the creativity and the 
overall sound that, that group 

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is able to get. 
And so I'd recommend checking 

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that album out and just it's a 
different kind of experience. 

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And many of you, maybe never 
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period, so would recommend them 
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kind of indie rock pop side. 
The Ducks limited another 

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interesting album that I like 
that style of music almost like 

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a power pop or sort of thing in 
places. 

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So those would be the two things
that I would recommend now, but 

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they'll be a lot more as we go 
through. 

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I think these next couple of 
months, as I'll finally have 

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some time to really form. 
Final, conclusions on things. 

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Let's see, a couple of other 
questions that we had just over 

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all of Craig Davis, asked making
pork. 

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Ellie burnt ends. 
When do you typically pull off 

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the heat? 
So if you haven't had these 

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before, I'd recommend it pork 
belly, chop it into small 

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pieces, and there's a whole 
array of things you can do. 

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But you can put these, you can 
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or on the stove top. 
You don't have to do them in the

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smoker. 
But if I think doing them in the

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smoker, probably makes the most 
sense. 

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And if you going to do them in 
the smoker, I normally aim for 

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about four to four and a half. 
Hours. 

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And it's a it's an interesting 
process because you need to 

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season the the pork belly cubes 
basically first. 

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And then you want to make sure 
you've got some wood in there. 

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You're going to you're going to 
smoke for a couple of hours and 

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then you're going to coat and 
barbecue sauce and then smoke 

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for a couple more hours. 
The nice thing about doing these

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is they're going to be done kind
of whenever you want. 

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A lot of, it's just a personal 
preference on how cooked the 

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meat is and what the overall. 
Consensus on the texture is, as 

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far as the people that are 
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I like mine a little bit more on
the having a little bit of a 

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tougher exterior because it 
contrasts well, with what is 

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normally a pretty loose, you 
know, mouth feel on the inside 

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with things. 
But you might want yours a 

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little bit on the, the less 
cooked side. 

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You might want them even more 
cooked than that. 

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So, I would say start checking 
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never be afraid to take a sample
or two and just make sure that 

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it's where you want it to be. 
And if you're doing them through

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an alternate methodology. 
It's kind of a similar sort of 

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deal. 
I just think the smoker is 

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probably it gives you the best 
flavor and it's honestly kind of

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the least amount of work. 
There's a little bit more prep 

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at the beginning, but all things
considered that's probably the 

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easiest way to go about it. 
Couple of other questions that 

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got tossed, our direction, we 
did have some additional 

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questions that came in. 
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everything is set up from the 
standpoint of football. 

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Not a whole lot has changed on 
the football front since we 

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00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,000
talked last week, and we've had 
a couple of other questions 

448
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,100
about, you know, what is a 
reasonable record for next 

449
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:28,800
season for an expectation 
perspective. 

450
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,900
This was Evan deal asked his 
question. 

451
00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:38,100
And, you know, I think look as 
our friend Martha, the mop lady 

452
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:42,800
posted on Twitter. 
It's, it's hard unless you're 

453
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,700
just one of those people that's 
given over to unbridled optimism

454
00:25:45,700 --> 00:25:49,000
at every opportunity, with your 
sports teams. 

455
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:52,800
It's hard to look at the 
offseason, it Indiana's had and 

456
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,300
say, oh I'm expecting them to 
jump right back in and have 

457
00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:59,400
seven or eight wins next year. 
They've certainly made a lot of 

458
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,500
good strides in recruiting. 
Is anybody that's debating that 

459
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:06,100
At, but the idea that those 
recruits are going to be ready 

460
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:10,900
to contribute. 
Right away is probably overly 

461
00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:12,300
optimistic. 
I would say. 

462
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,600
And I just haven't seen enough 
transfers in the key areas where

463
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,400
the team had trouble last year 
to feel like anything more than 

464
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:23,100
maybe a 4 and 8 or 5 and 7, 
season is a realistic record 

465
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,800
because I just again, you could 
see freshman having an impact, 

466
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:32,000
but I always worry about 
freshman having to deal with the

467
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,400
physical. 
Pounding of being in the Big Ten

468
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,100
that that's where you get 
injuries. 

469
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:40,000
That's where you get guys 
realizing that, wow. 

470
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,600
They've got a lot more learning 
to do. 

471
00:26:42,300 --> 00:26:45,500
There's a lot more film study to
do and if you look at the roster

472
00:26:45,500 --> 00:26:48,200
that's coming back. 
It's a lot of question marks in 

473
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,300
a bunch of different areas. 
So it's an easier schedule. 

474
00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:55,300
But you also get the sense, you 
know looking at the way that a 

475
00:26:55,300 --> 00:26:58,000
team like Maryland went out and 
wipe the floor with their bowl 

476
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,700
opponent for instance and you're
like, you know, that's that's 

477
00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:02,300
going to be a problem 
potentially. 

478
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,900
Year Rutgers is going to 
potentially be a problem next 

479
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:07,000
year. 
So at this point, you know, 

480
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,200
maybe things will change, but as
I end 2021 for the football 

481
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,200
team, my emotions on them. 
I'm not very optimistic about 

482
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:15,400
next year. 
Hopefully that changes. 

483
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,600
I'm sure. 
I'll I'll dope myself up on 

484
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:22,100
optimism before the before 
Summer Camp starts and we get 

485
00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:24,000
back into the swing of things 
leading into the season. 

486
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,900
But right now, yeah, not so 
much. 

487
00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,900
Evan also asked Big Ten record, 
expectations. 

488
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:32,500
And also how does Indiana 
suddenly have a pipeline of 

489
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:35,300
School talent. 
I covered the record question 

490
00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:38,300
last week. 
I said I think twelve and eight 

491
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:42,000
maybe 13 and 7 was a reasonable 
expectation. 

492
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,400
I still feel that way. 
Big Ten is just a mess. 

493
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,800
There's so many imperfect teams 
right now. 

494
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:53,000
I mean, you need look no further
than Michigan losing last night.

495
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,100
Not just losing by a little bit 
but losing by a pretty 

496
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:58,600
significant margin to University
of Central Florida. 

497
00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:02,500
That Michigan teams got problems
and you. 

498
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,800
Look up and down the roster of 
things with the Big Ten and the 

499
00:28:05,808 --> 00:28:09,400
various teams. 
I think everybody expects the 

500
00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:13,600
Purdue Boilermakers to be good. 
I think they're not going to be 

501
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:17,500
as good as many people are 
expecting just because I while 

502
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:18,900
they're certainly a very good 
team. 

503
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:23,300
I don't see them being a team 
that's going to threaten to go 

504
00:28:23,300 --> 00:28:26,600
like, you know, 18 and 2 or 17 
and 3 in conference. 

505
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,400
So, you know, I look at Indiana 
and I say they are so they're 

506
00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:36,900
firmly in the middle. 
Of the the overall set up in the

507
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,700
conference. 
And I think they'll be slightly 

508
00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:42,600
better than average because I 
think their schedule will play 

509
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:48,500
out as such and I am to some 
degree still. 

510
00:28:48,500 --> 00:28:51,500
Keeping my fingers crossed that 
they figure out a few additional

511
00:28:51,500 --> 00:28:54,800
things and they get, try 
Galloway back and he's healthy. 

512
00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:57,500
I think there's a really good 
chance of this team may be 

513
00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:59,200
slightly. 
Exceeding my expectations. 

514
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,900
But as of now, I'm going to 
stick with the 12 and 8 in the 

515
00:29:02,900 --> 00:29:05,400
conference because I think that 
will easily get them back into 

516
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400
the NCAA tournament. 
And that's ultimately the most 

517
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:15,100
important thing for this year. 
All right, a couple of other 

518
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,700
quick items here, before we wrap
things up. 

519
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,900
So first of all, we didn't 
really dive into the numbers per

520
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se. 
But we normally do and I Sports 

521
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if you are interested in numbers

522
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and you're interested in the way
that for instance, the bowl 

523
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:36,100
games are playing out. 
And who do you think is going to

524
00:29:36,100 --> 00:29:38,300
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528
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It's a really good newsletter 

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540
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541
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,900
sure to check that out. 
Last question. 

542
00:30:31,900 --> 00:30:33,900
I want to tackle. 
I'm actually going to jump back 

543
00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:38,400
to a couple of questions that we
got on Facebook. 

544
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,900
We do have a Facebook account. 
By the way, if you want to check

545
00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:43,300
us out you just search, Crimson 
cast on Facebook. 

546
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:47,900
And you'll be able to locate us 
there, but we had a long 

547
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:52,000
question from Jonas more who 
actually wrote in on Christmas 

548
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,900
Day. 
Jonas, saying it's first time 

549
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,200
reaching out, but he's been 
listening to the podcast for a 

550
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,500
while. 
So he had some interesting 

551
00:31:01,500 --> 00:31:05,100
statistical observations that, 
we've maybe touched on a little 

552
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:08,000
bit in pieces on the podcast 
before. 

553
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,700
But I wanted to go ahead and you
know, we'll we'll just kind of 

554
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:13,200
lay them all out. 
In this case. 

555
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,400
Ace. 
So to summarize. 

556
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:24,000
From 2019 to 2021 with records 
of 8 and 4 6 & 1 & 2 and 10 and 

557
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:28,700
that excludes bowl games on the 
2019 and 2020 Seasons. 

558
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,800
IU is 2 and 14 against teams 
with winning records or Bowl 

559
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,500
eligible teams. 
So 6 & 6 are better and then 

560
00:31:35,508 --> 00:31:38,100
they're 14 and 1 against teams 
with losing records. 

561
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:42,100
The two wins against winning 
teams were against Wisconsin 

562
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:44,200
last year and then Western 
Kentucky this year. 

563
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,500
They're only lost to a losing. 
Non bowl-eligible team. 

564
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:51,400
During that time was to Rutgers 
this year, who finished five and

565
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,000
seven. 
And I have of course as many of 

566
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,800
you know Rutgers actually ended 
up in a bowl. 

567
00:31:55,800 --> 00:32:00,500
It took a cancellation by one 
team and permission by the NCAA 

568
00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:03,000
to allow Rutgers to go to the 
Gator Bowl, but they're in it. 

569
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:07,800
So they are actually, they 
technically will not count in 

570
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,800
the statistic because they ended
up in a bowl game. 

571
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,100
So, anyway, he says, I thought 
that was fascinating and 

572
00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:14,400
curious. 
If you guys have any thoughts 

573
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,700
with a really worse this year, 
or did they just not improve? 

574
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:18,900
In the previous years. 
I think we'd all agree. 

575
00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:20,500
They were terrible. 
The last three games, but they 

576
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:25,100
were competitive and all the 
other games even up to the the 

577
00:32:25,100 --> 00:32:27,700
game at Michigan, which could 
incidentally was where they were

578
00:32:27,700 --> 00:32:29,400
knocked out for a Vulcan 
tension. 

579
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,600
So interesting thought and you 
know, this has been bandied 

580
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,300
about quite a bit. 
This idea that a lot of people, 

581
00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:41,000
the trump card for the Tom Allen
era, not being a good one as 

582
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:41,400
well. 
Tom. 

583
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:45,200
Allen hasn't beaten any teams 
with winning records or they 

584
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,700
beaten one team with a winning 
record. 

585
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,000
Record as the case may be, I 
guess it's to now. 

586
00:32:49,100 --> 00:32:52,300
Well now there's now it's too so
I'm I'm hoping that that 

587
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:55,000
narrative kind of goes away 
because I think what you'll find

588
00:32:55,000 --> 00:33:00,100
is for a lot of teams like 
Indiana, you frankly are going 

589
00:33:00,100 --> 00:33:03,300
to pick up the vast majority of 
your wins against teams that 

590
00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:06,100
don't have winning records and 
you're probably going to 

591
00:33:06,100 --> 00:33:10,400
struggle against teams that do 
have winning records and look. 

592
00:33:10,500 --> 00:33:15,500
I think that overall you take a 
team like, for instance, 

593
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:18,900
Michigan State. 
This Here and you kind of go 

594
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:23,200
down the list of games that they
won and most of their wins were 

595
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,500
against teams that had losing 
records or were right around 

596
00:33:27,500 --> 00:33:30,700
500. 
And most of the winds that they 

597
00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:33,500
picked up the, obviously, the 
Michigan game was a notable 

598
00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:37,200
exception. 
It wasn't like they had, you 

599
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,100
know, of the, of the what 11 
wins or ten wins that they had 

600
00:33:40,100 --> 00:33:42,300
on the season. 
It wasn't like of the tan. 

601
00:33:42,300 --> 00:33:44,900
Like five of them are, six of 
them were against top-notch 

602
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:46,600
competition and five were 
against. 

603
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,300
A mediocre competition. 
You generally pick up a lot of 

604
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:54,600
wins against teams that just 
don't win a lot and this is why 

605
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,100
scheduling so important. 
It's also why for Indiana being 

606
00:33:58,100 --> 00:34:02,100
in the Big 10 East is a constant
challenge because you're always 

607
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:07,100
going to have four teams, maybe 
five that are going to be at 500

608
00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:10,000
or better. 
You do need to win those games. 

609
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,800
No question, but I think the 
idea that IU or the Tom Allen is

610
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,699
somehow unique in that, they 
haven't won a lot of games. 

611
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,400
Against top level competition. 
It's probably not that big of a,

612
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,600
of a finding. 
I think what you'd find again is

613
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,400
that that is consistently how it
works across most of college 

614
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,199
football where I think Alan 
needs to get better as they have

615
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:35,100
to start picking up some scalps,
as our friend and co-host. 

616
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:39,500
Got Caulfield says, because 
that's ultimately what gets 

617
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:44,199
people excited about your 
football program and whether 

618
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,800
that's scalps in the regular 
season, Talked about /, do a lot

619
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,699
with that, you know, they were 
able to beat Ohio State in that,

620
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:54,600
that big game a few years ago, 
or, you know, this past year, 

621
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,200
they're able to knock off Iowa. 
And then, of course, they just 

622
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:03,900
had that remarkable bizarre kind
of silly Music, City Bowl, 

623
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:08,500
victory against Tennessee. 
It's those sorts of wins that 

624
00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:12,200
really galvanized the fans and 
let you look at Indiana, you 

625
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,800
know, the the winds that 
galvanized the fans, the most 

626
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,700
during the 2020 season where the
winner Penn State brand name and

627
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:20,500
the win against Michigan. 
Also a brand name. 

628
00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:22,100
I guess you could also say 
Wisconsin. 

629
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:26,400
It's to some degree. 
A bit of an accident that Penn 

630
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,500
State ends up with a losing 
record in that season because I 

631
00:35:28,508 --> 00:35:32,400
think if they'd played a normal,
you know, 12 game season, they 

632
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,500
would have probably ended up as 
a seven or eight win team that 

633
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:39,400
year, but the reality is that's 
not what happened. 

634
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,900
And for Indiana, it becomes a 
situation where you have to 

635
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:46,500
settle, you increase your talent
and you have to be able to go 

636
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,700
in. 
Ooh those sorts of games and 

637
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:52,100
pick up wins, and I guess I'll 
push back a little bit on the 

638
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:55,200
idea that maybe Indiana didn't 
get worse this past year. 

639
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:56,800
Maybe just everybody else got 
better. 

640
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,000
I think both happened. 
I think Indiana got worse and 

641
00:36:00,100 --> 00:36:03,000
the other teams got better 
because if you think about 

642
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:07,200
Indiana's football season in 
totality, they had as we've 

643
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,900
talked about on this podcast, 
one of the worst offenses in the

644
00:36:10,900 --> 00:36:15,500
history of the 14-team Big Ten 
and just from a point scored 

645
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:18,400
perspective from a yard. 
Perspective, it was a putrid 

646
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,900
offense. 
That is a huge step back from 

647
00:36:20,900 --> 00:36:22,400
what they had done the previous 
year. 

648
00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:25,500
And defensively, they had a step
back. 

649
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:29,700
You know, that everybody was 
concerned about turnovers not 

650
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,000
being replicable, but it wasn't 
just the turnovers. 

651
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:35,200
It was also the inability to 
make stops at Key moments. 

652
00:36:35,300 --> 00:36:40,200
And then that evolved into right
around the time that they lost, 

653
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,200
the chance of Bulge ability that
evolved into just not being able

654
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,100
to make stops period. 
And, you know, when you whether 

655
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:48,100
it's the Whose game or the 
Minnesota game? 

656
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:51,300
Or the Purdue game? 
Indiana looked absolutely 

657
00:36:51,300 --> 00:36:54,300
exposed the further that the 
season wet. 

658
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:56,800
And I think if they're special 
teams in there as well, Indiana 

659
00:36:56,800 --> 00:37:00,700
just took a bunch of steps back 
and unfortunately, for Indiana, 

660
00:37:00,700 --> 00:37:03,300
this happened simultaneously to 
Maryland. 

661
00:37:03,300 --> 00:37:06,700
Taking a small, step forward, 
Rutgers taking a big step 

662
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:08,200
forward. 
Michigan State, taking a big 

663
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,700
step forward and Michigan, 
taking a big step forward as 

664
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:13,700
well. 
So it's not nothing happens in a

665
00:37:13,707 --> 00:37:15,600
vacuum. 
And I guess that's a key point 

666
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:20,100
to think about, In, you know, 
but Indiana by any metric. 

667
00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:23,400
Just wasn't good enough and it 
wasn't a situation of well, we 

668
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:25,000
stayed the same and everybody 
got better. 

669
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,100
It was this case of everybody 
got better and Indiana got 

670
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,100
worse. 
So that's got to be addressed as

671
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:36,500
we go into this upcoming year. 
So, anyway, I think that's gonna

672
00:37:36,500 --> 00:37:39,100
actually wrap it up as that was 
a pretty long question. 

673
00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:42,500
We appreciate you writing in, 
like, is the last one, I'll 

674
00:37:42,500 --> 00:37:44,600
tackle. 
This was from Ghost of a ghost 

675
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,100
and this something applies. 
I think to both football and 

676
00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:51,200
basketball, what has made you 
the happiest about this team? 

677
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,100
And what would you ask for for 
Christmas? 

678
00:37:53,100 --> 00:37:54,800
For them? 
This was obviously written 

679
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,600
before Christmas, but let's 
we'll set it up in a New Year's 

680
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,500
resolution for both IU football 
and I, you men's basketball. 

681
00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:05,400
So, for IU football, what's made
me the happiest about the Is 

682
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,200
there does still appear to be a 
spirit of hey we're doing 

683
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,100
something special and different 
here. 

684
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:14,900
And even if the results on the 
field aren't showing it. 

685
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:18,800
I do like how there is a 
positivity that has remained 

686
00:38:19,100 --> 00:38:22,200
among the coaching staff and and
at least among some of the 

687
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:23,900
players. 
I don't know if that actually 

688
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:26,300
translates into anything 
tangible. 

689
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,700
But when that works it is a it's
kind of a special sauce that is 

690
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:33,800
fun to see, and it does kind of 
warm your heart. 

691
00:38:34,500 --> 00:38:37,600
The however, my New Year's 
resolution for the football 

692
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,700
team. 
The thing I would ask of them is

693
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:44,600
to stop thinking that that kind 
of positivity is going to pay 

694
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:46,200
the bills. 
At the end of the day. 

695
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:49,800
This team really needs to 
rethink how it approaches a 

696
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,300
bunch of different areas. 
And I think you could make an 

697
00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:58,200
argument that 2019 and 2020 both
had unique events that led to 

698
00:38:58,200 --> 00:38:59,800
them being better than they 
should have. 

699
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:06,300
Been 2019 was a Really talented 
offensive coordinator. 

700
00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:10,200
Figuring out how to take some 
imperfect pieces and use them in

701
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,700
a way that generated a lot of 
wins and 2020 was kind of a 

702
00:39:13,707 --> 00:39:17,800
perfect storm, sort of situation
that allowed Indiana to take 

703
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,900
advantage of some teams being 
down the weird situation 

704
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:26,100
regarding covid and their own 
ability to, finally, get over 

705
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:30,300
the hump in a couple of games. 
But neither of those situations 

706
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,100
is going to be exist in 2022. 
At least. 

707
00:39:33,100 --> 00:39:35,800
We hope that they do at least. 
The these though the covid thing

708
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,500
we hope isn't existing then. 
So what Indiana needs to do 

709
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:43,500
football-wise is get a lot more 
serious about details. 

710
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:47,600
Get a lot more serious. 
About the little things that win

711
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,400
games, the other one of the 
complaints early on in the 

712
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,800
season. 
And I think something you could 

713
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,200
point to the Syracuse or skews 
the G Syracuse game, the 

714
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,800
Cincinnati game, the Michigan 
State game, even the Western 

715
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,900
Kentucky game which they want, 
but it was very close. 

716
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,400
Is this team is, is still in 
year. 

717
00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:08,400
Five of the Tom Allen era 
struggling with small details. 

718
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:11,000
Whether it's penalties, whether 
it's blocking schemes, whether 

719
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:15,500
it's technique, especially from 
receivers and, and, and things 

720
00:40:15,500 --> 00:40:18,300
of that nature, they're just 
there has to be more attention 

721
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:20,900
to detail, and that's something 
that is as much on the players 

722
00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:22,800
as it is on the coaches. 
But ultimately, it's the job of 

723
00:40:22,808 --> 00:40:25,800
the coaches to get the players, 
doing what they need to do. 

724
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:29,200
So need to see more of that and 
really need to see. 

725
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:34,200
I think a full re-evaluation of 
game management. 

726
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,800
From top to bottom, you know, 
when plays are getting called 

727
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,300
and when timeouts are being used
and things of that nature. 

728
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,200
It's been, it's been loose for 
five years and it can make the 

729
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,500
difference between winning, four
games and winning six, or seven 

730
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:52,100
games next year. 
In addition, to all the other 

731
00:40:52,100 --> 00:40:56,100
factors that are going on as far
as what's made me happiest about

732
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:59,500
men's basketball. 
I think it's just that it feels 

733
00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:02,100
fun. 
But it also feels serious again,

734
00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:05,700
you know, the is it Been a 
perfect start to the Mike 

735
00:41:05,700 --> 00:41:09,700
Woodson are obviously but it 
also has been a start to the era

736
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:13,600
where there's a different energy
is an energy that I think for 

737
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,700
old-time IU basketball fans. 
They look at it. 

738
00:41:16,700 --> 00:41:19,900
And they say, you know what, 
this feels like something that I

739
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:24,200
recognize this, there's a vibe 
to this IU season, that is 

740
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,700
special. 
And you know, the players are 

741
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,400
not perfect by any means, but 
their players that appear to be 

742
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:36,000
having fun with each other. 
Or to feel like they can win 

743
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,700
games as opposed to feeling like
they're going to eventually lose

744
00:41:39,700 --> 00:41:41,200
games. 
And that's a big change of pace.

745
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,100
I think that's a positive and 
you know, the I really enjoy 

746
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:49,800
Mike Woodson's demeanor. 
I enjoy what he says in press 

747
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:53,800
conferences. 
I enjoy how he interacts with 

748
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,900
his players on the floor and I 
think he's gotten some really 

749
00:41:57,900 --> 00:42:02,500
interesting performances so far 
out of several players that I 

750
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:05,800
had some questions about coming 
into the And he's also gotten 

751
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,300
some, you know, accelerated and 
advanced performance as out of 

752
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:11,300
guys who I wondered if they'd 
hit their ceiling. 

753
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,600
Like I didn't know if we were 
going to get more out of Trace 

754
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:17,200
Jackson, Davis than we got last 
year and Mike, Woodson has 

755
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,400
gotten that and I think that he 
deserves a lot of credit for 

756
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,600
that for the way that race 
Thompson's played. 

757
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:28,100
There's a lot of small Nuance 
details that just, you know, 

758
00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:30,700
you're still struggling with 
offense on this team and you're 

759
00:42:30,700 --> 00:42:32,800
still going to have moments. 
I think where this team's going 

760
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:36,500
to not completely know what 
they're supposed to be doing. 

761
00:42:36,500 --> 00:42:39,400
And to me, that's just an 
artifact of a new coach, a new 

762
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,600
coaching staff and new system, 
but there does seem to be a core

763
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,700
belief in what the team is 
doing. 

764
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,800
And so that's what's got me. 
Most excited. 

765
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,000
What I would ask for for them, 
for for New Year's. 

766
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,800
What's the resolution there? 
You know, I think it's It's 

767
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,600
both. 
I think the team needs to just 

768
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,600
remain patient and realize that 
they're going to get 

769
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,400
incrementally better as the 
season goes along if they keep 

770
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,100
doing what they're being asked 
to do. 

771
00:43:04,100 --> 00:43:08,500
And I think my biggest ask is 
that everybody be more patient 

772
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:12,100
with this team? 
I think there's a lot of IU fans

773
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:15,400
who have been burned time and 
time again over the last 20 

774
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,200
years by false hope. 
And now the default reaction is 

775
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,300
negative all the time, and 
there's still a lot of 

776
00:43:23,300 --> 00:43:25,400
information. 
Infighting between IU fans on 

777
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,800
social media. 
There's a lot of recriminations,

778
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,900
the moment, the team loses a 
game or struggles in a 

779
00:43:32,908 --> 00:43:36,400
particular moment in time in a 
game and I understand where that

780
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,600
comes from because I think that 
the IU basketball fan base, has 

781
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:46,400
been to some degree asked to 
believe and to perform all the 

782
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,900
acts of supporting a top-level 
team, but what they've actually 

783
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:53,500
gotten has been a second or 
third-tier team in many cases. 

784
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,900
Over the last 20 years. 
And at this point I think people

785
00:43:56,900 --> 00:43:59,800
are just tired of waiting. 
I think this is going to be a 

786
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,900
team worth waiting for this, is 
going to be a program worth 

787
00:44:01,900 --> 00:44:04,200
waiting for will. 
They get all the way back to 

788
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,000
where people want them to be 
this year or next year? 

789
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,000
Probably not. 
But I think already this team 

790
00:44:10,300 --> 00:44:15,400
has performed at or slightly 
above expectations. 

791
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,500
And let's be honest, that is 
better than what we've seen out 

792
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:23,900
of IU basketball, for any of the
last five years, so, That in and

793
00:44:23,900 --> 00:44:26,900
of itself is some progress and 
I'm excited to see how Indiana 

794
00:44:26,900 --> 00:44:28,600
is able to continue to build on 
that progress. 

795
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:32,400
And my hope is that there's just
some additional patients as 

796
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:35,200
people realize that you're 
watching a transformation taking

797
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,100
place with the basketball 
program. 

798
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,800
And I think it's going to lead 
to some really good things down 

799
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:41,900
the line, but it's not going to 
happen overnight. 

800
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:44,200
Anyway, that's going to wrap it 
up. 

801
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,700
I appreciate everybody who took 
the time to listen and ask 

802
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:51,200
questions and will continue to 
answer questions. 

803
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,200
As we move forward. 
We'll be back with Podcast, 

804
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,100
probably at the beginning of 
next week. 

805
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:59,100
As we recap, what happened with 
IU? 

806
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,700
Basketball, obviously UNC 
Asheville. 

807
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:04,300
That game. 
Got canceled. 

808
00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:06,900
Probably not the biggest loss in
the world. 

809
00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:08,800
Would have been nice to get one 
more game in. 

810
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,100
But Indiana going to just start 
off the Big Ten season with 

811
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,600
about a ten day break. 
They'll take on a Penn State 

812
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,400
team that will not have played 
since early December that game 

813
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,700
taking place on Sunday of this 
upcoming weekend. 

814
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,400
We'll talk about that and we'll 
cover. 

815
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:25,900
Or any other materials that need
to be talked about as well. 

816
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:30,600
Be sure to check out our other 
friends on the back home 

817
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:34,300
network. 
You can always check out the 

818
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:38,700
assembly call as they do 
podcasts after every game. 

819
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:41,600
They also do assembly call 
radio, which takes place every 

820
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,900
Thursday. 
And so I would check all of 

821
00:45:44,900 --> 00:45:48,900
those items out and also check 
out Tony had Rania on Twitter 

822
00:45:48,900 --> 00:45:54,400
and go to IU film room.com., 
You'll find all of His material 

823
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:58,100
and while you're doing all of 
that, you can also hop on the 

824
00:45:58,300 --> 00:46:01,000
premium communities that we have
here. 

825
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:05,400
Check out the Discord that that 
we have here. 

826
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,600
You can always check that out 
through any of the links on our 

827
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:12,300
podcast Pages, whether it's 
assembly, call or IU, film, Rome

828
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:15,100
or Crimson cast. 
So anyway, thanks to all those 

829
00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:16,900
folks and happy New Year, 
everybody. 

830
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,600
Really appreciate all of the 
friendship and all of the 

831
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,400
thoughts. 
And it's always a joy to be 

832
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:26,600
talking about out IU sports, or 
food or whatever with you, 

833
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:32,700
folks, and I'm always humbled 
and an honored by your continued

834
00:46:32,900 --> 00:46:35,900
patronage of the podcast and 
your willingness to kind of 

835
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:38,200
follow us through. 
As we talk about the things that

836
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,400
we find interesting, and it's 
always heartening that some of 

837
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,500
you find those things, 
interesting as well. 

838
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,600
So anyway, that'll wrap it up 
for us for 2021 on behalf of 

839
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,300
Scott and on behalf of 
everybody, that's in the Crimson

840
00:46:49,300 --> 00:46:50,700
cast and back home network 
communities. 

841
00:46:50,700 --> 00:46:51,800
I'm Galen. 
Klaviyo. 

842
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:55,900
We'll catch you folks on the 
flip side, bring back the Bison.

843
00:46:55,900 --> 00:46:56,500
So long everybody.
